What can sporting success teach us about ordinary life? Simon Mundie sits down each week with an expert to explore the deeper aspects of sport that mean more than the score.
What has Simon Mundie learnt from the DTMTS journey so far? This is the last episode on BBC Sounds, before Simon takes DTMTS off to pastures new. The series will continue on all non-BBC platforms from the end of April. Over the course of over 130 episodes to date, the DTMTS guests have opened up to share their stories as well as their own "life lessons". To mark the end of the BBC chapter and the start of the new one, it is Simon's turn to be vulnerable about his story and what he has learned. Asking the questions is Dr Radha Modgil, who is an NHS doctor, mental health expert and broadcaster. She's Radio 1's resident doctor, and regularly appears on television too. For any questions regarding the future of DTMTS get in touch @simonmundie.
What the experience of flow in sport may reveal about the nature of reality. One theme that has arisen time and again with sportspeople on DTMTS is the experience of flow: when we lose ourselves in whatever it is that we are doing. Several sportspeople have spoken on DTMTS about the experience of "me" not being there in such moments. But what is that "me" that seems to disappear? That’s a hig question and here to help address it is Rupert Spira, a philosopher interested in the nature of reality, and the nature of consciousness. Nothing is more obvious and undeniable than the fact that we are conscious. Now in this case when we say conscious, we mean aware – for example even when you are asleep, you are aware of your dreams. And right now – you are aware of the sight of these words. But, there is something called the hard problem of consciousness. It is one of the great scientific conundrums. It is our inability to explain how a lump of tissue or matter, in other words our brain, creates consciousness or awareness. Rupert argues that we are looking in the wrong direction. This is a counterintuitive view, and we are not arguing that it’s true, but before you immediately dismiss it, here is a quote from one of the most important physicists of the 20th century – the Nobel prizewinner Max Planck. "I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness. We cannot get behind consciousness. Everything that we talk about, everything that we regard as existing, postulates consciousness." In this episode, this is all brought back to sport, and the experiences sportspeople have – specifically while they are in flow. This episode also talks about sporting "egos", and how we project god-like status on to sports stars because of their creative talents, when in fact they are as normal as you or I. @simonmundie
When does an obsession with winning become unhealthy? John Neal is head of coach development at the England and Wales cricket board, and he has extensive experience as a performance psychologist, within rugby, football and cricket. He has also worked with men's and women's teams at three World Cups across two sports. Despite setting out to help teams win, John's relationship with "winning" has evolved over his many years in sport. He came to see that trophies and titles isn't what it's all about, and that focussing on the outcome makes you not only less likely to enjoy your daily experience – but also less likely to win. In this episode there is also an announcement about the future of DTMTS, which will be heading to pastures new from April. @simonmundie
Why emotional intelligence can be more important than IQ. Daniel Goleman is an internationally known psychologist and author of the best-selling book, "Emotional Intelligence". EQ is about understanding ourselves better, managing our own emotions, and using empathy to better understand the feelings and emotions of the people around us. Daniel has also written "The Science of Meditation", which is a deep-dive into the research on meditation and how it affects both our "states" and our "traits". In this episode, Daniel explains what EQ is and how to develop it, as well as how mindfulness can contribute to that process. @simonmundie
The power of accepting yourself and letting go of the need for approval. Billy Monger is a racing driver who was critically injured in a crash at Donnington in 2017. He had both his legs amputated, but was back behind the wheel of a car within a year. Since his crash, Billy has been thrust into the limelight, but he's not lost sight of what is important. He's all about positivity, kindness and authenticity. He talks about the lessons he's learnt from and since his crash, including around gratitude and acceptance. To accept ourselves means to value our supposed imperfections as much as anything else, and no amount of self-improvement will make up for a lack of self-acceptance, as Billy has comes to understand. Billy is currently walking, cycling and kayaking 140 miles in four days for Comic Relief. The action is being filmed for BBC One – "Billy’s Big Red Nose Day Challenge". @simonmundie. www.bbc.co.uk/rednoseday
Bill Beswick is one of the world's best respected sports psychologists. He worked at Manchester United under Sir Alex Ferguson during the club's dominant reign. Roy Keane and Gary Neville are among those who have credited Bill with making a real difference to their ability to perform at their very best. As well as working alongside many other top football managers, Bill cut his sporting teeth in the world of basketball where he was also very successful, winning Commonwealth gold as England head coach in 1992. In this episode Bill talks about developing a "fighter mindset"; so taking full responsibility for your life and facing the inevitable challenges of life head-on. That contrasts with a "victim mindset", in which someone make excuses and blames others and the world for all their misfortunes. Bill is full of timeless wisdom in this episode and also shares stories about the likes of Sir Alex and Steven Gerrard which shed a light on their attitude, outlook and character. @simonmundie
How being kind can positively impact our health, relationships and the world around us. Dr David Hamilton has a PhD in organic chemistry and spent four years at one of the world's biggest pharmaceutical companies, where he became fascinated with the placebo effect. Since leaving that industry and becoming an author, speaker and TV personality, he's discussed the implications of the placebo effect and the mind-body connection, including on the acclaimed Netflix documentary HEAL. David is an expert on the power of kindness too, having written several books on the subject, including "The Five Side-effects of Kindness". In this episode David explains how kindness can make us happier, deepen our relationships and even improve our heart health and immunity. And with an R number of 5, kindness has the power to ripple out and make a big impact on the world around us too. @simonmundie
Appreciating people for who they are – not just for what they do. Nigel Pearson has managed Southampton, Hull, Derby, Watford and Leicester in his time. He was in charge just before Claudio Ranieri came in and led the team to their stunning Premier League title success. Many players and staff from that 2016 title-winning squad say Nigel deserves lots of credit for the work he did in laying the ground that enabled them to pull off the most remarkable title triumph in living memory. Kasper Schmeichel paid tribute to his man-management skills, saying he treated everyone with the same level of care as if they were his own children. His ability to create a cohesive unit was fundamental. That's why the theme of this episode is "valuing people", something Nigel both preaches and practices. @simonmundie
Harnessing the power of the conscious mind and calming our inner chatter. Ethan Kross is an award winning psychologist and neuroscientist. His fascinating new book is called "Chatter: The Voice in our head, why it matters and how to harness it." Chatter happens when the voice in our head starts spinning out of control. After going through an acute episode of chatter himself, Ethan experienced a eureka moment. He discovered a simple but powerful technique that can help wrestle back control of the inner voice when it starts going haywire. In this episode, he also explains the huge effect this pandemic can have on our internal chatter, and what we can do about it. Ethan talks about the power of nature and "awe", and finally explains why tennis great Rafa Nadal is so meticulous when it comes to his pre-point routines and lining up his bottles "just so" at the change of ends. @simonmundie
Choosing an empowering narrative to handle whatever comes your way. Tatyana McFadden is arguably the world's best female wheelchair racer of all time. She was born with spina bifida, and spent the first six years of her life in a Russian orphanage before being adopted and moving to America. There she fell in love with wheelchair racing, going on to win 17 paralympic medals, including one in the 2014 Winter Olympics in Sochi. Tatyana also has over 20 major marathon successes to her name. She has chosen to perceive the challenges she has faced in her life in a way that empowers her, and has seen how the perception of Paralympic sport has been utterly transformed over the course of her career. Tatyana is one of the stars of the Netflix documentary Rising Phoenix, which has been nominated for a BIFA for Best Documentary. @simonmundie
Exploring your own limits and trusting your own judgement with the England cricketer and World Cup winner. Jos Buttler is one of the most destructive batters in the sport. He plays for England in all forms of the game, is vice-captain for his country in limited overs teams, and whipped off the bails to secure England the World Cup in 2019. The theme of this episode is "exploring". It is about staying in touch with the childlike enthusiasm for what your are doing. It is an attitude that has enabled Jos to be expressive, creative and destructive with the bat. He talks about learning to trust his own judgement and let go or control, gaining perspective and valuing the journey over even the best moments sport can offer. @simonmundie
Lessons from the ex-armed robber reformed through sport. John McAvoy spent ten years in some of the UK's highest security prisons, having grown up around some of the most notorious criminals in the country. He even chose to spend a year in solitary confirnement rather than be "broken by the system". But while in prison John had an epiphany that transformed his outlook and identity. He discovered a talent for endurance sport, and after having broken world records at indoor rowing while in prison, John successfully turned his life around and is now an elite Ironman athlete sponsored by Nike. Having valued money above all else when growing up, now his priority is to help others, through charities like Greenhouse sports and by going into schools and prisons to give talks to young people. John proves that a leopard can change its spots, and that while we can judge behaviour, we may want to reconsider being too quick to judge the person, because the enviroment we find ourselves in has a profound impact on our life choices. @simonmundie
Exploring why human connection is so vital to our wellbeing. Dr Chatterjee is a physician, author, TV presenter and podcaster, who has explored this topic in depth. People who are lonely are significantly likely to die earlier, and social isolation is thought to be as dangerous to your health as being a regular smoker. At this time, when so many of us are cut off from our loved ones, this topic is even more important. @simonmundie
Exploring why pressure causes a dramatic drop off in performance, with Mark Williams. He is one of the most published scientists in the world when it comes to identifying talent identification and developing skill, and has co-authored "The Best: How Elite Athletes are Made", which explores how sportspeople get to the top and stay there.
How to create a successful team culture and thrive within it. Frances Houghton competed at five Olympic Games, winning three silver medals. She was also a four-time World Champion. Over the course of her two decades in the British rowing system, Frances underwent a big evolution that led her to question what is truly important; what she found out is valuable to anyone wanting to compete, collaborate and cooperate to the best of their ability. Frances has shared her wisdom in her book, "Learnings from 5 Olympic Games", and discusses some of the specific lessons she learned. @simonmundie
Being willing to throw yourself into something without any guarantee of a successful outcome. Ollie Ollerton is a former Special Forces soldier turned TV star and author. He passed the SAS's gruelling six-month selection process – testing his physical and mental endurance to the limit – before spending six years with the SBS. But it was after leaving the special forces that he came unstuck; the process of getting himself back on track informed many of the life lessons Ollie holds dear, and which he shared in his book "Battle Ready". As well as courage, they discuss motivation, purpose, self-doubt and ego. @simonmundie
How to set goals with the Ironman world record holder. In 2017, Tim Don was in the shape of his life as he headed to the Ironman World Championships in Kona. He had broken the world record earlier that year and was one of the favourites for the podium, but two days before the race he broke his neck in a collision with a car. He was fitted with a "halo" – a medieval looking brace designed to keep his head and neck still – which is attached via titanium bolts screwed into his skull. For three months he had no choice but to remain perpetually upright, utterly dependent on his wife and family. Just six months later, he competed in the Boston marathon making it round in a swift two hours 49 minutes, and then two months later he returned to Ironman and won his first race back. Tim is a past master at setting goals, whether that be in using them to become a top professional athlete in the first place through to making his way back after suffering such a devastating injury, and he breaks down many of the key elements of effective goal setting in this episode. It's worth checking out the documentary of his recovery from his neck-break too – handily called "Halo". @simonmundie (Photo: On Running/Andrew Hinton)
How our experiences inform how we see the world, with GB's Fed Cup captain. Anne Keothavong was formerly Britain's number one ranked tennis player, but her route into the sport was anything but typical. Her parents are from Laos in South East Asia; they raised their children on a housing estate in Hackney, and saw tennis as one way to give them more opportunities than they had. As well as the impact of her upbringing and her parents' outlook on her perspective, Anne talks about the sad death of Elena Baltacha – her top rival to be British number one during their playing days. (NB: the Fed Cup will be renamed the Billie Jean King cup in 2021.) @simonmundie
What it takes to become one of the greatest athletes on the planet with Adam Peaty – the 2016 Olympic Champion, an eight-time World Champion, a twelve-time European Champion and a three-time Commonwealth Champion. He has broken world records twelve times and currently holds three of them. In this episode, Adam talks about the daily dedication required to become one of the greatest swimmers on the planet, and shares what he's learned about the value of self-reflection and the danger of pinning our happiness and self-worth on what we achieve.
How to harness the power of your imagination to achieve success, with Britain's greatest ever golfer. Sir Nick Faldo spent 97 weeks as the world number one and won six majors, three at The Open and three at The Masters, and he attributes much of his success to his powers of visualisation, which is the theme of this episode. He explains how he used to visualise twice a day in his pomp, and "saw" himself as the winner of major championships before it happened. He explains what he believes is the key to sports psychology - focusing on what you do want not what you don't - and shares tips on dealing with pressure and quickly forgetting bad results. Sir Nick also explains the importance of reframing "failure". @simonmundie
The art of creating opportunities and turning dreams into reality. Maurice Hamilton is a Formula One legend, albeit not for his skill behind the wheel but as one of the sport's greatest authors. He's been part of the sport since 1977 and was the Observer's motor racing correspondent for 20 years. The theme of this episode is "making things happen" as Maurice's route into the sport was certainly unorthodox. He left school with no great ditinction and tried his hand at sales and accountancy before deciding that he would do whatever it took to follow his F1 dream. He took risks and displayed creativity and perseverance before eventually making it after a long and winding journey. Along the way he was inspired by a quote from Rudolf Caracciola, who himself overcame huge odds and adversity to become one of the sport's earliest stars. It read: "I believe every man can achieve the goal he strives for. I also believe the every man who feels in himself a strong desire to do a certain job will eventually end up doing that job no matter how many detours he has to take to get there." @simonmundie
Why sales is an important life skill and how to get better at it, with top sports promoter Eddie Hearn. Eddie is now the managing director of Matchroom Sports, but he cut his teeth in the world of double-glazing. He's since mastered his craft, and he shares what he's learned in climbing to the top of his profession. Eddie shares wisdom on the importance of passion and energy – whether you are selling a product or yourself. He talks about ditching ego and having a "beginner's mind", as well as the importance of breaking grand visions down piece by piece. He also opens up about the "chip on his shoulder" and learning to embrace balance. @simonmundie
The value of observing and evaluating yourself in order to grow as a person. Jamie Peacock is one of rugby league's greatest ever players. He captained both England and Great Britain and is one of the most successful players in Super League history, having won a total of nine Super League championships, four Challenge Cup winners' medals, as well as picking up the prestigious Man of Steel award. Jamie made a smooth transition out of the sport upon retiring, down in no small part to his ability to separate his personal from his sporting identity. Jamie learnt to be self-reflective while playing professional sport, and has taken that skill forward into the rest of his life. He explains the value of living your values, what sport teaches you about problem-solving, why facing your fear is so important and much more besides. @simonmundie
How to become more resilient - with the "Iceman" Wim Hof. Wim has numerous records to his name, including climbing Mount Kilimanjaro in just his shorts, running a half marathon above the Arctic Circle in bare feet and standing in a container full of ice cubes for nearly two hours. Wim has also been injected with an E. Coli endotoxin without showing any adverse reactions, and taught a group of volunteers how to achieve similarly remarkable results. Wim says we are all built to be "happy, strong and healthy" but by spending so much time in comfortable environments we have become less capable of dealing with stressful situations, however they show up. By consciously embracing the cold, he says we can influence our immune system for the better. Wim's motto is "Die once a day, because it makes you so alive!" wimhofmethod.com @simonmundie
How our beliefs and perceptions shape how we experience ourselves and the world. Helen Davis is a sports psychologist who has worked with a number of top athletes, including previous DTMTS guest Lucy Gossage. The key understanding explored in this episode is that it is not people or events that make us feel or behave in a certain way, it is our perceptions and beliefs that are crucial. Helen explains how to uncover unhelpful beliefs and ways of thinking, and why tweaking the language you use can make a big difference. Helen was a teacher before becoming a psychologist and she also explains how she made the switch, as well as sharing her advice for anyone also considering a change of direction in their career. @simonmundie
Why having self-doubt is normal and how preparation and perspective are key. Sir Chris Hoy won six Olympic gold medals during his dazzling cycling career, and he was World Champion 11 times. He was inspired to take up the sport after watching "ET", and began in BMX before switching to track cycling. In this episode, Hoy talks about confidence and why self-doubt is normal. He talks about the value of preparation and perspective, and why dreaming big is an absolute must. Hoy explains how to develop the right attitude, why looking a fear of failure in the face can be utterly transformative, and how thoughts of winning and losing create pressure – so learn to stay in the now by focussing on the process. @simonmundie
The importance of having open and understanding conversations. Emile won 62 England caps, playing in three World Cups and Euro 2004. He started his career at his hometown club Leicester, before making a multi-million pound move to Liverpool in 2000. While there he won the FA Cup, two League Cups and the UEFA Cup, but in his book "Even Heskey Scored" he shared some of the struggles he went through off the pitch. In this episode, Emile explains why he didn't want to tell anyone how he felt at that time, and how it is easier to show vulnerability now. He also details his experiences of racism and says open and understanding conversations in that area are long overdue.
Resolving complicated feelings, recognising patterns and understanding yourself better with the 1996 Formula One World Champion. When Damon Hill secured the F1 Championship, he ensured that he and his father Graham Hill entered the record books as the first father-and-son pair to win Formula One's biggest prize. But sadly, Graham was not there to see Damon do it, as he had died in a plane crash in 1975 shortly after retiring from the sport. Damon initially resisted the urge to follow his father into Formula One, but once he did he quickly rose through the ranks – driving alongside Ayrton Senna when he died in 1994, and engaging in some legendary battles with Michael Schumacher before securing his crowning glory in '96. Damon retired in 1999, and thereafter went on a journey of self-discovery, battling depression and questions of identity – as well as understanding and unpicking patterns that get passed down through the generations. @simonmundie
Seeing life as an opportunity for constant and never-ending learning and growth. Nigel Adkins has managed several top football teams in his time, but he's best known for working wonders at Southampton. He secured back-to-back promotions from League One up into the Premier League, lifting the club 51 places in the process. Nigel is known as one of football's most likeable characters, and his uplifting social media videos have become something of a sensation during the Covid-19 lockdown. Nigel's distinctive outlook has been dubbed "Adkinism" by many fans of the clubs he's managed, and it's about gratitude, positivity and making the most of the day, topics discussed in this episode. Other topics covered include honesty, the benefit of mentors and role-models, satisfying relationships, effective communication and developing a growth mindset in all areas of life. @simonmundie
How doing what you love can lead to unexpected places – with the head of British tennis. Scott comes from one of the original British tennis dynasties; his uncle John was an Australian Open finalist and top ten player, and his father David was a Davis Cup player and captain. Scott grew up around the Slater squad – an elite programme for top young British players including Tim Henman in the early 90s – and had hopes of being a professional player. While that didn't transpire, Scott did continue to follow his passion for the sport he loves, and is now in charge of tennis in Britain. Prior to taking over at the LTA, Scott was a successful businessman, founding the Next Generation gym chain and serving as CEO for David Lloyd leisure; he shares several lessons he learned throughout his career – including around decision-making and developing a thick skin. Scott also shares his thoughts on Novak Djokovic's controversial breakaway male players' association and Andy Murray's legendary career.
How our circadian rhythms impact our athletic performance, mood and overall health. Dr Panda is Professor at the Salk Institute for Biological Sciences in California – and a leading expert in the field. He argues that developing a robust circadian rhythm is one of the best things you can do to protect yourself against Covid – and in this episode he explains exactly how you can. He reveals how athletic performance can vary by as much as 26% in the course of a day – and how some top teams are using that to their advantage when playing matches away from home. @simonmundie
Exploring the stories we tell ourselves and the impact they can have on our lives – with triathlete and cancer doctor Lucy Gossage. Lucy is now retired from professional racing but during her athletic career she was a 13-time Ironman Champion. She was most successful when competing alongside her work in oncology, and in this episode Simon and Lucy explore the balance between meeting your own wants and needs and considering the wellbeing of others. The theme of the episode is self-talk, and they discuss becoming aware of the beliefs we all hold about ourselves and the world around us, which can help or hinder us.
How small actions can lead to amazing outcomes - with cancer survivor and cycling world record holder James Golding. In his 20s - James was given just a 5% chance of survival while being treated for an aggressive form of cancer. He could barely lift his head off the pillow but he managed to pull through and once he had – his life changed dramatically for the better. James even goes so far as to say – in hindsight – what he went through was a blessing. While he was recovering - James basically discovered cycling having not had an interest before he was ill, and he started taking on tougher and tougher challenges – raising millions for charity in the process. He’s ridden nearly 4000 miles across America - despite being run over by a truck – has broken the Guinness seven day cycling world record, and recovered from cancer for a second time. Because of what he went through – and with help from the bike – James’s outlook and attitude has been transformed.
The power of sticking with something and refusing to give up - with TV presenter and wheelchair basketball star Ade Adepitan. Ade contracted polio when he was just 15 months old while living in Nigeria – which prompted his parents to move to the UK to give him a better chance of not just thriving but even surviving. It was a huge sacrifice by his family – and his parents in particular endured a torrid time when they moved to London but they instilled in Ade a resilience and persistence that has served him well. Ade struggled to accept his disability but sport and his wheelchair changed the way he felt – and he began to flourish. In this episode Ade talks about persisting despite knockbacks as he attempted to make the British team, he talks about preparing for opportunities so when they arrive - as they surely will - you’ll be ready and why pushing and challenging yourself is crucial so you’re not left looking back thinking ‘if only’.
Understanding the cost of fear and how to face and replace it - with the former England football psychologist, who was credited with helping transform the team at the 2018 World Cup. Pippa explains the difference between 'in the moment fear', and 'not good enough fear', and it's the latter that is the focus of this conversation and which is lurking behind many of our self-defeating behaviours. Pippa talks about the subtle role fear plays when we shame ourselves and others - as well as in tribalism that goes too far. She explains why seeing and facing fear is crucial if we are to address the real reasons for being stuck in our lives, and outlines ways to replace the narratives we hold, and move in the direction of connection and purpose. Pippa's new book is called Fear Less: How to win at life without losing yourself. Thoughts, ideas and questions @simonmundie
Finding joy and meaning in serving others with the legendary Olympic coach. During Dan's career, he has coached 49 Olympians, including nine medallists and five World Record holders. He helped Greg Rutherford win long jump gold at London 2012 and Donovan Bailey win 100 metres gold in 1996. Outside track and field, he has coached football, NFL and tennis stars – including Maria Sharapova. Throughout his nearly 50 years in coaching, and his studies into the military, Dan has come to appreciate the value of service in providing meaning and enjoyment in life, and in this episode he talks about the importance of building a network and giving back. Dan also shares wisdom around resilience, optimism, self-talk and gratitude – and explains the importance of knowing what makes you tick as well as understanding what you need to help you calm down and be able to understand other people's perspectives.
Determination can trump talent according to MotoGP star Cal Crutchlow. In 2016, Cal became the first Brit in 35 years to win a race in MotoGP – the premier motorcycle racing world championship. He says the key ingredient in his success is determination, a quality he has in spades – whether it be in returning from injuries or just taking him to the top rung of his sport, ahead of other riders he considers to have more talent. Cal is a great advocate of talking calculated risks to get to where you want to go, and is someone who finds out what works for him and does things his own way – even if it appears to be unorthodox. That includes the way he trains for races, how he stays fit and how he sets up his support team around him. Cal also talks about not letting the opinions of people you don't know affect your sense of self and why balance and a rounded life may ultimately supersede a "win at all costs" mentality.
Why our obsession with 'winners' and 'winning at all costs' is holding us back, with Cath Bishop – a three-time Olympic rower who won silver at Athens in 2004. She was also a diplomat and is now a business coach and author. Cath argues that our fixation on winning is overhyped and outdated, and she explains why the world needs an evolved attitude of cooperation to enable us to reach our potential in a more meaningful and sustainable way. In her new book The Long Win she challenges our cultural obsession with the concept and argues that it's time to redefine what success means. She explains why winning isn't even working for many of the 'winners' and why the 'win at all costs' mentality squashes creativity in sport, business, politics and education.
The importance of a positive outlook in achieving success, with the legendary Italian jockey. Frankie Dettori says he aims to be in a positive frame of mind every time he leaves the house, which has contributed to his remarkable longevity. But Frankie also says it has a tangible effect on his horses – they can sense the frame of mind he is in and react accordingly. That may well explain how he managed famously to win all seven races in one day at Ascot in 1996, when he had something akin to a mystical experience on what was his final ride of the day. In this episode, Frankie also explains why he isn't someone to have a "five year plan" – he explores the differences between the Italian and British outlooks on life; he looks ahead to riding the favourite at the Investec Derby, and talks about the plane crash he was in 20 years ago – when he was convinced he was going to die – and how it has affected his outlook on life ever since.
How to get better at almost anything by practising like an expert. Anders Ericsson, who sadly died recently, was Professor of Psychology at Florida State University. Anders spent decades studying elite performers across a number of fields including sport, music and medicine, and it was his research that led to the popular "10,000-hour rule" written about by Malcolm Gladwell and others. Anders explains that just clocking up 10,000 hours of regular practice won't make you an expert; the key is to spend your time in deliberate practice. It is a purposeful and systematic approach that requires you to be focused, push past your comfort zone, seek feedback and make sure you prioritise rest, as Anders explains in this episode. As ever, thoughts and questions @simonmundie
Using emotion, vulnerability and connection to fuel powerful performances. Mel Marshall is a former world number one swimmer turned coach. She’s been coaching Adam Peaty since he was 14 and Adam is one of the greatest swimmers of all time (2016 Olympic champion, eight-time world champion and world record holder in the 50 and 100 metre breastroke). Adam says Mel developed him into the man he is today. Mel is all about relationships and talks about the love she feels for the people she works with and the swimmers she coaches. It is that emotion and connection that can help people find an extra 10%. Having honest and vulnerable conversations can actually release feel-good hormones that can help people perform better. That human touch, that is easy to overlook and undervalue, really can make a huge difference. Mel also talks about managing down, sideways and up. She shares some gems about managing up in particular, using what she calls her 'invisible leadership skills'. She talks about the value of working out what your work capacity is and sticking to that, and the importance of finding balance. Mel and Simon also discuss the power of belief, that intangible yet crucial quality. Also the difference between personality and character and the similarity between Adam Peaty and Michael Jordan.
Developing a work ethic and being efficient with F1 legend David Coulthard. David spent 15 seasons in Formula One, taking 13 Grand Prix victories and 62 podium finishes. After retiring, he deftly transitioned into being a commentator, pundit and entrepreneur. He is undoubtedly a grafter, and that work ethic is something that was instilled in him by his upbringing. In this episode David explains what he learnt from his hard working parents, and how he's taken that forward into his own life and passed it on to his son and step-daughter. He talks about prioritising and being efficient, the importance of routine to let your mind de-clutter and the value of the F1 honesty and responsibility culture – and what other businesses and organisations could learn from it. He emphasises the importance of making things happen – and not waiting for them to happen to you – and explains why multi-tasking is generally a bad idea, as well as the art of conserving energy. David also shares what he learnt from his brush with death in a plane crash in 2000, as well as the lessons he took from observing the late great Ayrton Senna. Get in touch on twitter @simonmundie.
Getting the best out of people by treating them as individuals with the former England manager, Sam Allardyce. Sam has had a long and successful career in football, first as a player and then as a manager. Many players who were managed by Sam have spoken fondly of his ability to create an enjoyable environment for them, most notably the team he created at Bolton. He surprised many people by luring World Cup winners and genuine megastars to the club in the early 2000s. Sam was ahead of his time at Bolton, using sports scientists, analysts and psychologists well before that became the norm elsewhere. When it comes to managing people, Sam talks about the importance of getting in front of people where possible, and not simply relying on data and second hand information. He talks about the danger of being labelled, something he felt happened to him early in his managerial career, as well as his longstanding meditation habit, playing pranks on Sir Alex Ferguson and dealing with the emotional impact of losing the England job after just one match, following a newspaper sting.
How to go from surviving to thriving with All Black legend and mental health advocate Sir John Kirwan. John is one of the greatest rugby union players of all time, but it's his work around mental health that led to him being knighted. When he was one of the most high profile players in the world, John had a serious mental health crisis. Thoughts of suicide eventually prompted to him to seek help, which sent him on a wellness journey that led him to being one of the faces of the mental health campaign in his home country, and it's there that he's now launched the free Mentemia app to help people cope during the coronavirus crisis. In this episode, John shares lessons from reaching the very top of his sport, including setting a goal and 'paying the price' to reach it. He talks about the beauty of the Italian culture and what we can all learn from the way they value connection and 'breaking bread'. And he shares his daily mental health plan, which includes taking time to unplug your brain several times throughout the day just as you would turn your computer off and on again when it starts playing up. John also explains why he is someone who needs 'active relaxation', as opposed to a tool like like meditation, and he shares wisdom on how you can discover pursuits that can help calm your inner monkey down. And John and Simon touch on ways to get feel-good hormones going round your body, including taking time to connect as well as doing random acts of kindness. As ever, please get in touch @simonmundie
Being adaptable to people, circumstances and environments with Leon Smith, the head of men's tennis at the LTA and the captain who helped deliver the Davis Cup to Britain in 2015, something that was inconceivable just a few years previously. Leon also coached Andy Murray during his earlier years, and the two remain close friends. The theme of the episode is 'being adaptable', and it's an area in which Leon excels. It's also something we are all having to be at the moment as we adapt to the new coronavirus reality. Leon and Simon discuss the relationship between emotional intelligence and adaptability, and why having a growth mindset is key - something illustrated perfectly by Andy Murray's approach to the sport. Leon is known for getting the best out of players and for getting on with everyone in tennis, and he explains some of the 'soft skills' that help him do that, like taking the time to check in with the people he works with and sincerely taking an interest in their wellbeing. Leon also talks about not giving in to fear, getting out of your comfort zone and much more besides. Please get in touch with your thoughts and questions: @simonmundie
Believing in yourself and living without self-imposed limits - with social media sensation turned pro boxer and rapper, KSI. KSI has over 21 million YouTube subscribers and his videos have been viewed six billion times. He has a social media reach of over 50 million, including 5.6 million followers on Twitter, eight million on Instagram and 3.2 million monthly Spotify listeners. He also now boasts the third most followed music channel in the UK. But KSI started out commentating on FIFA matches in his bedroom aged 14 as a way to entertain his friends. Eventually his audience grew so big he decided to drop out of college against the wish of his parents to follow his YouTube dream. It paid off in a big way. KSI keeps reinventing himself, both as a pro boxer who famously beat fellow YouTuber Logan Paul in America, and as a rapper. His new album is called Dissimulation, which means concealing one's thoughts and feelings. That is something KSI admits to having done that in the past, revealing that his online persona is very different to the character known by his friends and family as JJ. In this episode KSI talks about embracing vulnerability as well as the responsibility of being a role model. He also explains why he is so determined to prove people wrong with his work, and why he is evidence that anyone can achieve anything in life - if they believe in themselves and work both hard and smart. As ever please get in touch with your thoughts: @simonmundie.
Taking the time to reflect on your life and where you are heading with Olympic medalist Goldie Sayers. Goldie was Britain's top javelin thrower who won a medal at the 2008 games, but injury just before London 2012 robbed her of her best chance of gold. She was able to overcome that disappointment and made a successful leap from athlete to businesswoman and coach when her sporting career ended. She is a great advocate of taking the time to reflect on your life and appreciate how far you have come, as well as carefully considering where you want to go and how you want to live. With so many people now in a position to do that, her advice is timely. Goldie talks about reflecting on your life as a whole, and making sure it is balanced and not overly skewed towards work. She is a passionate advocate of doing what you love and grabbing opportunities when they arise, and not getting swept up in comparing yourself to others. She also talks about dealing with the disappointment of cancelled events and plans and shares a powerful exercise to help work out your values. Knowing your values is key in working out how to best spend your time, and it's an exercise she uses in her coaching work that has led to people experiencing revelations and big life breakthroughs. Goldie also shares a morning routine guaranteed to get you going. As ever any thoughts and questions: @simonmundie.
How to use the ancient Greek philosophy of stoicism to cope with the coronavirus pandemic, with author Ryan Holiday. Ryan has written a number of best-selling books on stoicism, including The Obstacle is the Way, which has become a favourite with elite sports teams and players. Ryan describes stoicism as as "the most practical of all philosophies". In this episode, Ryan explains the essence of stoicism, and why we should focus on objective judgement, unselfish action and willing acceptance of all external events. He explains the three critical steps: perception, action and the will. Perception is understanding that nothing makes us feel a particular way, and that outward appearances are deceptive. Action is understanding that our movements and decisions define us, and everything is a chance to do and be our best. And the will is being braced for our efforts to fail, but still understanding that at worst events are an opportunity to practice humility and acceptance. See clearly, act correctly and finally endure and accept the world as it is. Ryan also explains the value of meditating on our own mortality, to help us understand that time is a gift. As ever, thoughts and questions appreciated: @simonmundie.
How to balance competing demands on your time with top British athlete and qualified vet Laura Muir. Laura is Britain's top middle-distance runner and Scotland's top female athlete who was considered a great prospect for a medal at this year's Olympics before it was postponed. She is also a qualified veterinary surgeon. In this episode she explains how she managed to juggle two such demanding pursuits, and how each one helped her excel in the other. Laura wasn't considered a great athletic prospect growing up. She was a solid if unspectacular runner who wasn't even the best in her school. But when Laura got to university and started working with a coach, her progress was meteoric and now she is among the very best middle-distance runners in the world. As Laura says, that shows how we all develop at our own pace and why loving what you do and sticking at it is often more important than early talent. In this episode Laura explains how she balanced qualifying to be a vet with her running career in 2018, and why learning to prioritise is key. She also talks about the value of not overthinking and choosing to enjoy what you do rather than putting too much pressure on yourself to succeed, which paradoxically makes it more likely that you will succeed. She talks about being conscious of your priorities and sticking to them as well as keeping a level head, asking yourself questions to reduce how stressed you feel, running to clear the mind, routine and being the best version of yourself you can be and not worrying what others think. This is the first of two episodes this week. As ever get in touch with suggestions and questions: @simonmundie.
Why adversity can be a blessing in disguise, with walking quadriplegic Ed Jackson. Ed was a professional rugby player whose career was cut short when he broke his neck diving into a shallow swimming pool. Ed nearly died and was told he would never walk again but he confounded the experts and even recently climbed Mount Snowdon. He was due to be climbing Mont Blanc for charity in June, although that's now been cancelled because of the lockdown. Instead, Ed is climbing the equivalent height of Everest on his parents stairs, having been inspired by the fundraising efforts of 99-year-old Captain Tom. The theme of this episode is perspective as Ed says since his injury he is actually happier and more grateful than when playing professional sport. He talks about people's innate negativity bias and how positivity can be trained. Simon and Ed also discuss embracing uncertainty, the power of belief, redefining limitations, adding value to other people's lives and understanding events are only 'bad' if you decide that they are. As ever please get in touch with any thoughts, ideas or questions: @simonmundie
The importance of being clear on where you want to go in life and how to get there with Olympic gold medallist Ben Hunt-Davis. Ben turned himself from an also-ran in the rowing world to a gold medal winner by asking himself just one question, over and over again, and applying it in every area of his life: Will it make the boat go faster? Ben’s approach passed into sporting performance folklore and has been referenced by other DTMTS guests including Sir Clive Woodward. After listening to this episode, hopefully you'll be able to think of a similar question relevant to you and any area of life that you want to progress in. In this episode Ben and Simon talk about: • Why setting clearly defined goals is crucial • Choosing to plan ahead rather than simply being reactive • How to motivate yourself and perform even when you don't feel like it • How to build empowering beliefs and ignore the internal and external naysayers • How to separate fact from interpretation and choosing your language skillfully. As ever please do get in touch @simonmundie