EntrePastors

Sometimes we will get asked the question, “When do I know when it's time to quit what I'm doing and try something different?”  In other words, how do I know when it's time to pivot?  In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast, Jon and Les share some general principles and words of encouragement to anyone who might feel stuck in their current situation and looking for a fresh start.  Jon and Les also share some big announcements about some pivots they're making with the EntrePastors platform as well as their own personal business endeavors.  

None of us naturally enjoy when big problems suddenly come upon us in our lives.  We generally do our best to stay in a place of relative comfort and avoid hardship.  But the truth is, God often works through some of the most challenging circumstances in our lives to grow us to levels beyond what we ever thought possible.  In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast, Jon and Les talk with Jeremy Brown about some significant challenges he has been faced with and how he has trusted God to provide through various business endeavors.  In addition to hearing Jeremey's incredible testimony, some of the other big takeaways from this conversation are:Business is all about relationships.Often we disguise our passivity as spirituality.It's important to know what season you're in.We're confident you will find this conversation inspiring and motivating and would love to hear your feedback on what you plan to do moving forward as a result.Call to Action:  Subscribe to Voice Message Coachinghttps://www.entrepastors.com/ Guest Info/Links:Website: https://www.mylegacyacres.com/ 

As leaders and entrepreneurs, it can be easy to spend much of our time frustrated with how far we feel like we have yet to go in order to reach the goals and dreams we're pursuing.  This can lead us to a posture of impatience.  On the other end of the spectrum some would-be entrepreneurs stay stuck for far too long in passive inaction, waiting for everything to come into perfect alignment before taking any steps forward to their preferred future. In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast, Jon and Les talk to people on both sides of that tension.  They offer words of advice and encouragement for the pastor who is struggling with being patient in their current season and they also offer a much needed “kick in the pants” for the pastor who is stalled out and not moving forward and stuck in their passivity.Call to Action:  Subscribe to Voice Message Coachinghttps://www.entrepastors.com/ 

For many people getting started in business, there is a natural resistance and discomfort in promoting their services to the marketplace.  For a PASTOR who is launching a business, this can be even more of a challenge due to years in pastoral ministry dealing with scarcity thinking and the false humility that is often prevalent in a community of Christians.  In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast, Jon and Les list five tips for how to promote your products, services, and offerings to the world in a way that is healthy and helpful.  Call to Action: Join EntrePastors Business Buildershttps://www.entrepastors.com/businessbuilders 

In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast, Jon and Les bring you the inspiring story of Zach Nyhuis as he shares his multifaceted journey as a pastor, entrepreneur, and founder of Rural Pastors International.Zach's story begins with a life-changing trip to Uganda for his sister's wedding, where he met Martin Nuku and realized his dream of training rural pastors in both theological and vocational skills. This encounter led to the formation of Rural Pastors International, an organization dedicated to equipping pastors with the tools they need to avoid prosperity gospel traps and create sustainable livelihoods.We'll explore the program's impressive growth from humble beginnings under trees to a structured training facility near Jinja, Uganda, impacting up to 125 participants. Zach's mission emphasizes the importance of financial independence in ministry—a vision inspired by Francis Chan, advocating for wealth-building to support ministry efforts sustainably.In addition to his missionary efforts, Zach shares his entrepreneurial journey, from acquiring a small commercial cleaning business to scaling it into a multi-million dollar operation. Despite the challenges, he integrates his pastoral skills into his business, offering spiritual guidance and support to his employees and customers.Listen in to hear how Zach's dual roles as a pastor and business owner serve as a discipleship tool, and how his innovative approach is reshaping ministry beyond traditional church settings. Whether it's about mentoring young church members or managing a thriving business, Zach Nyhuis' story is a testament to the power of combining faith and entrepreneurship for transformative impact.Guest Info/Links:Website: https://www.ruralpastorsinternational.org/

In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast, we're diving into the world of coaching within pastoral ministry with our special guest, Dr. Barbara Ettinger. As an ordained pastor and leader within the Evangelical Covenant Church, Barbara brings a wealth of experience from her 30 years in ministry and her innovative coaching initiatives.Dr. Ettinger emphasizes how coaching can empower individuals to find clarity and direction in their paths. She shares the distinctive skills that make effective coaches, such as asking powerful questions, active listening, and generating meaningful feedback. She also delves into the vital role that education and credentials play in coaching, while also addressing the balance between formal training and practical experience.We'll learn about Dr. Ettinger's journey, the coaching culture she's helping to establish within her denomination, and the resources and strategies that can make coaching more accessible and impactful, especially for pastors. Whether you're interested in becoming a coach or seeking pastoral coaching support, this episode is packed with valuable insights and practical advice. So tune in and discover how coaching can transform lives and ministries.Guest Info/Links:Email: coaching@covchurch.com  Call to Action:Get our FREE EntrePastors Get Started Guidehttps://www.entrepastors.com/start 

In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast Jon shares five statements of good news for pastors as we enter 2025.  Listen in as he unpacks the following ideas:You have the ability to change the narrative of the starving pastor…at least for you!You have far more freedom than you've been led to believe.The model of the full-time pastor is quickly becoming a thing of the past.Everything you want is on the other side of ACTION.You don't have to take this journey alone. Call to Action:Tell us more about where you feel stuck: https://www.entrepastors.com/stuck 

In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast Jon speaks some words of encouragement and hope to any pastor who is struggling feeling discouraged, defeated, and desperate.  In our work at EntrePastors, it's not uncommon for us to hear from pastors who are so exhausted and frustrated.  When they initially come to us we can see it in their posture and hear it in their countenance.  However, we have also seen some of those discouraged and desperate pastors get to a place of abundance and margin.  We celebrate with them as they get the “fire back in their bellies.”  In this episode, Jon will offer up seven statements that will encourage a desperate pastor and illuminate a path forward to a healthier place. Call to Action:Apply for one of our limited opening for a 30-day experience inside our Business Builders communityhttps://www.entrepastors.com/experience 

In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast Jon interviews Jan Touchberry as they dive deep into the intersection of ministry and business. They explore Jan's journey from vocational ministry to launching her "accidental" business in network marketing and affiliate marketing, and how her technical and marketing skills naturally transitioned her into the business world. They discuss the evolving landscape of bi-vocational ministry, the stigma pastors face when pursuing outside work, and the broader scope of ministry beyond traditional boundaries. Jan provides valuable insights on automating tasks to streamline business operations, the entrepreneurial spirit within the church context, and the changing opportunities for women in ministry roles. With personal stories, encouragement to embrace God-given gifts, and a peek into future dreams, this episode is packed with inspiration and practical wisdom for pastors and entrepreneurs alike.Guest Info/Links:Website: https://jantouchberry.com/ Call to Action:Join our free Facebook Group  https://www.facebook.com/groups/entrepastorsconnect 

In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast, Jon and Les talk with fellow pastor and author Eric Hoke about his new book Market Street Pastor.  Eric contends that pastors want to work hard to provide for their families, be radically generous, and build a legacy of ministry that they can be proud of.  In the modern ministry vocation, the only way to do this is to expand vocational options and earn additional income outside of the church.  The problem is that pastors have only ever worked in churches and have no idea how to message their valuable skills in a way that makes sense to hiring managers in the open marketplace. As a result, they are paralyzed and frustrated because they know that they could break into the workforce, earn more money, and meet community members outside the church but don't know where to start on the job hunt.  Eric Hoke understands how difficult it is to change industries and move from being a pastor to a marketplace professional because he did it in New York City, where he spent 10 years living and ministering as a church planter while also working in Manhattan for-profits. Eric has helped thousands of others to do the same through a proven five-step process that helps pastors break into the marketplace and build a ministry of sustainability. Guest Info/Links:Website: https://www.ihelppastorsgetjobs.com/ Call to Action:Get our FREE EntrePastors Get Started Guide https://www.entrepastors.com/start 

In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast, Jon has an awesome conversation with Justin Johnson, founder of Dominion Wealth Strategists, a company that was founded with the sole mission of putting more money into the hands of God's people.  Justin discusses the flawed ideology that exists among some believers that celebrates poverty and avoids even the appearance of abundant wealth.  Justin believes when God's people embrace the dominion for which they were created, they will find success in all arenas of life, including their financial well being. Guest Info/Links:Website: https://www.dominionwealthstrategists.com/  Call to Action:Take advantage of our 50% off Black Friday - Cyber Monday sale on all our courses!https://www.entrepastors.com/courses 

In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast, Jon has an awesome conversation with Nathan Bailey about his journey in the pastoral and entrepreneurial space.  In addition to serving as a vocational pastor, Nathan has also built a very successful real estate portfolio and property management company in recent years.  We discuss how he has managed the tension of working in both the church and the marketplace.  Nathan is currently in the early stages of launching a coaching business in which he will be serving high impact Christian leaders as well.Guest Info/Links:Email: n.bailey.phd@gmail.com Call to Action:Take advantage of our 50% off Black Friday - Cyber Monday sale on all our courses!https://www.entrepastors.com/courses 

In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast, Jon sits down with Katrina Fitten, the founder of New Day For You Financial.  Katrina spent a season of her life in vocational ministry, but in recent years has shifted more into the marketplace as a financial coach.  She primarily serves female entrepreneurs with financial literacy, coaching, and funding of their new businesses.  Katrina subscribes to a way of thinking that is very relevant to where so many pastors in our audience find themselves.  She says, we don't have a money problem, but instead we have a money mindset problem.  We're excited to share this conversation with you in hopes that you will be inspired to broaden your own thinking around the topic of money as you hear from yet another example of what it can look like to serve others in the marketplace as an entrepastor.Guest Info/Links:Website: https://www.newdayforyoufinancial.com/ Call to Action:Become a member of our EntrePastors Starters community!https://www.entrepastors.com/pba 

In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast, Jon shares 10 statements, both positive and challenging about some common traits shared by the majority of pastors.  It's quite possible you will be uncomfortable with some of the statements that are made, but it's also quite likely that you'll hear a word of encouragement as well.  Our prayer would be that God will use this episode to not only help you get clarity on where you currently are, but the courage to take action to move to a better place. Call to Action:Register for our upcoming webinar:  Conquering Pastoral Poverty on November 15th at 9:00 am CSTentrepastors.com/conquer 

In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast, Jon and Les talk about a book that has made a big impact on Les in recent days called Indistractable: How To Control Your Attention and Choose Your Life by Nir Ayal.  Les lays out some of the big ideas from the book as he and Jon talk about the importance of learning to be more focused and present in our ever increasingly busy and chaotic world.  The reality for most pastors and entrepreneurs is the constant onslaught of all the distractions that seek to pull us off course and take our attention away from the things that really matter.  If our goal is to have a significant impact on the lives of others, at some point we must learn to be more disciplined as we take control of our time and choose to be present and focused where it matters most.Call to Action:Register for our upcoming webinar:  Conquering Pastoral Poverty on November 15th at 9:00 am CSTentrepastors.com/conquer 

In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast, Jon and Les talk with Joel Bromley about the business/ministry he and his wife Kaitlin are building in the arena of financial coaching.  Joel works as a full-time firefighter and Kaitlin serves on staff in their local church, but they are both passionate about helping other people not only experience financial freedom from debt, but also to be able to live and give like they never thought possible as they learn to get their financial houses in order.  Joel and Kaitlin's financial coaching is an excellent example of what it can look like to build a business down the “Information-Based Pathway” that we talk about at EntrePastors.  When you have a clear message and an audience who needs the transformation that your message can bring, you have the ability to not only serve people with your message, but also to create a stream of revenue through that service.Guest Info/Links:Website: https://www.bromleyfinancialcoaching.com/ Call to Action:Take advantage of a limited time offer to join our EntrePastors Business Builders community where you can get two months of membership for the price of one.  https://www.entrepastors.com/businessbuilders 

In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast, Jon and Les talk with Aaron Hansz about his journey from working in the marketplace into vocational pastoral ministry. Aaron shares his unique perspective of some of the more noteworthy observations he made coming into the church world as compared to the corporate marketplace.  And while Aaron is very excited about his work as a pastor, he continues to pursue an entrepreneurial business around coaching in addition to his corporate work.  Aaron talks about how he has come to recognize how often pastors come out of the church world thinking they have very little to offer in the marketplace.  But nothing could be further from the truth.  As we say often here at EntrePastors, pastors have an incredible amount of transferable skills that are highly valuable in the marketplace.Guest Info/Links:Email: aaron@hansz.us Call to Action:Register for our upcoming workshop: 4 Steps to a Profitable Business Idea https://www.entrepastors.com/4stepsOctober 24, 2024 - 12:00 pm

In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast, Jon and Les talk with Rich Sanders about his new book The Christian Capitalist.  Rich is a pastor, small business owner, healthcare attorney, retired adjunct professor at Emory University, and former intelligence officer in the U.S. Navy. He and his wife, Rebekah, met at church in 1996, have been blessed with three children (James, Will, and Caroline) and live in Destin, Florida.Through this conversation you will hear Rich share why he's so passionate about helping God's people not only make as much money as they can, but also how to generously share their blessings in a way that advances and grows God's kingdom. Guest Info/Links:Website: https://christiancapitalist.life/ Call to Action:Register for our upcoming workshop: 4 Steps to a Profitable Business Idea https://www.entrepastors.com/4stepsOctober 24, 2024 - 12:00 pm

In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast, Jon and Les talk with Tim Walker about his incredible church planting journey as well as an exciting business he is building.Tim planted Restored Church 12 years ago in Wilkes Barre, PA. Tim describes Restored Church as an urban church that is primarily of and for the poor. They've seen God do incredible things including never having a Sunday yet without new people, they've celebrated over 200 baptisms, and their church is primarily filled with first generation Christians that Jesus has rescued out of addiction, prision, prostitution, gangs, satanism, atheism, and everything else in between.On the business side, time has launched Travel Multiplier, a business that teaches people how to do Travel Hacking. For many years in ministry Tim's family barely made enough to live on, let alone travel for fun and recreation. That all changed when Tim learned how to earn thousands of dollars of free travel through a strategic process called Travel Hacking (no time-shares, pyramid schemes, or bait & switch gimmicks involved!) Once Tim mastered this process for himself and his family, he started helping some other family and friends enjoy the same types of results. Then he realized he could turn it into a knowledge-based business that could generate real income for his family. Now through his business he teaches others how to do Travel Hacking through an on-demand course and one-on-one personalized coaching.Guest Info/Links:Website: https://www.travelmultiplier.com/ Call to Action:Join our free Facebook Group  https://www.facebook.com/groups/entrepastorsconnect

In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast, Jon and Les dive into the heartfelt journeys of Rusty Roberts and Sean Murphy.Rusty, motivated by his mother's miraculous recovery from stage 4 cancer, founded Brio Medical Clinic in Scottsdale, Arizona. His work, deeply rooted in his faith, is guided by scriptures from Psalms and a desire to help others receive the Lord's promises. Rusty shares his unique approach to cancer treatment and leadership, despite having no medical background, and has authored a book titled Psalms Path to further his mission.Sean Murphy, having battled business burnout and attempted suicide, found redemption by recommitting his life to the Lord during COVID-19. Transitioning from gym ownership to an impactful online ministry, Sean quickly amassed a following of over 100,000 after a video about business and scriptures went viral. He now focuses on sharing testimonies and offering support to those in need.The pair connected through Sean's viral content, forming a powerful alliance to demonstrate how scripture can transform lives and businesses. In this episode, they discuss their journeys, the intersection of faith and business, and the impactful role of scripture in their lives and work.We also explore their collaborative efforts, the challenges they faced, and their dedication to guiding others towards a peaceful and purpose-driven life. We're sure you'll be inspired by this incredible story of divine intervention, resilience, and the transformative power of faith in business.Guest Info/Links:Website: https://psalmspath.com/ Call to Action:Join our free Facebook Group  https://www.facebook.com/groups/entrepastorsconnect

In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast Jon and Les talk with Whitney Johnson about how she is finding opportunities for ministry everywhere as a result of her service-based business.  In recent years, Whitney has launched her own cleaning business with a focus of specifically serving the elderly.  She shares how this is a community that is often taken advantage of and how she is meeting a very real need by providing trustworthy in-home cleaning services.  Whitney's work in this arena has paved the way for a new membership community she is developing called Silver Linings in which she will teach people how to serve their aging parents and loved ones.Guest Info/Links:Website: https://www.facebook.com/WhitneySilverLinings Call to Action:Tell us more about where you're feeling STUCK in your entrepastor journey.https://www.entrepastors.com/stuck 

In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast we share the story of our friend Tyson Priest who has been on an incredible journey over the past few years.  Tyson planted and led a church in rural Indiana for a season, until it became apparent that the time had come to close the doors of the church.  While on one hand this certainly represents the death of a dream and the disappointment that so many pastors can identify with when the thing we are asking and believing God for does not happen the way we hoped it would, Tyson shares an amazing story of how God is writing a new story of arguably even more fruitfulness for the kingdom that is happening in the marketplace.  Through some truly supernatural opportunities in recent months, Tyson has led many people to Christ, helped them take a step of obedience through the waters of baptism, and is now discipling these new believers in an online forum.  His story stands as an awesome reminder that just because you may no longer be in vocational ministry, your work and calling to pastor others is just as relevant, and arguably even more effective, through marketplace activities.  Call to Action:Enroll in EntrePastors Night Schoolhttps://www.entrepastors.com/nightschool 

In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast we are celebrating the powerful question of “Why?”  Jon shares how so often we simply accept the status quo as it is because it's what has been handed down to us and no one has really challenged the old paradigms by asking WHY.  But when we pause long enough to ask the question of WHY, we can open our minds to new ideas and ways of breaking old paradigms that are no longer serving us well.  In this episode Jon will invite you to think through questions such as these:Why are we doing ministry like this?  Why is it normal for pastors to have such unrealistic expectations placed upon them by the churches they serve?Why are pastors expected to have professional degrees, yet be compensated so poorly?Why are we seeing thousands of pastors leaving ministry every year?Why are pastors' families often silently suffering?Why can't we come up with a better and healthier model in which pastors are thriving?We believe it's possible that your greatest breakthrough might lie just on the other side of WHY questions like these.  Call to Action:Enroll in EntrePastors Night Schoolhttps://www.entrepastors.com/nightschool 

In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast Jon and Les celebrate the three-year anniversary of EntrePastors by each sharing some of the defining moments in their own lives which played a large role in their decisions to think and act differently as it pertains to the financial model with which they approach pastoral ministry.  They want you the listener to know just how much they can relate to the current struggle you're likely facing as a vocational pastor and to hear a genuine message of hope that a better and healthier option is available to you if you desire it.Call to Action:Get our FREE EntrePastors Get Started Guide https://www.entrepastors.com/start 

In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast Les talks with long-time pastor Dan Scott.  Dan served Christ Church during a season in which a powerful move of the Holy Spirit took place as people were inspired, equipped, and released to go into the world and lean into their God-given gifts and talents in the marketplace.  Dan captures many of the amazing stories that came out of this transformative season in his book Let the River Run.  There were several national and international platforms that were launched out of this church during this season including Dan Miller's 48 Days to Work You Love and Dave Ramsey's Financial Peace ministry.  We encourage pastors to listen to this conversation through the lens of what's possible when we see our people as uniquely shaped by God not just work inside our churches, but to be sent out to have an impact far beyond the four walls of the church.Guest Info/Links:Website: https://pastordanscott.com/ Call to Action:Get our FREE EntrePastors Get Started Guide https://www.entrepastors.com/start 

In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast Jon is going to dive into a subject that might be tough for some pastors to hear.  We're going to talk about how to overcome a spirit of entitlement.  At first glance, this might not seem to have much to do with you…or does it?  Jon unpacks how living in poverty can ultimately produce people who come to feel entitled to the generosity of others and unfortunately, pastors are not exempt from this.  The truth is many pastors have lived in poverty for years and their only “funding model” is to rely upon the generosity of others.  If we're not careful, we can begin to assume a posture of entitlement without realizing it.  You will hear Jon cast a compelling vision for getting you to a place of financial freedom where you will no longer need to be on the receiving end of other people's generosity, but can instead be in a strong position to give generously to others out of the overflow of the abundance that is being created through your marketplace endeavors.  Call to Action:Register for Dustin Heiner's upcoming webinar: Financial Freedom Through Real EstateAugust 21, 2024 - 11:00 am CSTmasterpassiveincome.com/entrepastorsworkshop 

In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast we talk with Mike Henry, founder of Follower of One, a nonprofit that helps believers integrate their faith with their work in the marketplace.  Mike shares his story of coming to Christ years ago and feeling passionate about his new found faith, yet frustrated with the disconnect he often felt between the place where he worshiped (his church) and the place where he spent a significant part of his life (his work).  To Mike, it seemed like the only form of ministry that was offered and validated by his church was either ministry that happened within the four walls of the church building, or more intense ministry that required getting on a plane and traveling to an entirely different country on a mission trip.  Eventually this frustration led Mike to launch a movement of what has now become known as Follower of One that specializes in mobilizing believers on two-week “Marketplace Missions Trips.”  Through this initiative, Mike helps regular everyday church members recognize and engage one of the most important mission fields they encounter on a regular basis as they get up and go to work each day.  At EntrePastors, we often say that “business IS ministry,” and that often there are far more opportunities to minister to others through marketplace activities than from behind a pulpit.  We're excited to share this conversation with you and trust you'll be encouraged from it.Guest Info/Links:Website: https://followerofone.org/ Call to Action:Register for Dustin Heiner's upcoming webinar: Financial Freedom Through Real EstateAugust 21, 2024 - 11:00 am CSTmasterpassiveincome.com/entrepastorsworkshop 

In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast we're joined by Dustin Heiner, a real estate investment expert who transitioned from being a pastor to achieving financial independence through real estate. In this episode, Dustin delves into the nuts and bolts of building a successful real estate investment business, from finding the right city and property manager to securing financing and achieving passive income. He shares his personal journey, emphasizing the importance of education, risk tolerance, and implementation. Dustin also opens up about his heart for ministry, aiming to help one million people achieve financial independence while spreading the gospel. Whether you're a pastor considering a similar path or anyone interested in real estate, this episode is packed with valuable insights to fast-track your goals and build a sustainable, freedom-filled future. Join us as we explore how faith and finance can beautifully intertwine with Dustin Heiner.Guest Info/Links:Website: https://masterpassiveincome.com/freecourse Call to Action:Register for Dustin's upcoming webinar:August 21, 2024 - 11:00 am CSTmasterpassiveincome.com/entrepastorsworkshop 

In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast, hosts Jon and Les are joined by Elaine Lankford, founder of She Steps Forward Coaching and She Steps Forward International. Elaine's incredible journey from a nursing career to empowering Christian female entrepreneurs is nothing short of remarkable. We'll dive into her personal story of transition, the unique challenges of moving from a caretaking role to entrepreneurship, and the mindset shift required to turn informal mentoring into a thriving business model.Elaine shares how her work extends beyond the four walls of the church to create a significant impact in the marketplace, likening the roles of Peter and Paul in supporting kingdom purposes. Together, we'll explore her international endeavors, including her pivotal conference in Kenya and ongoing humanitarian efforts. Elaine's passion for teaching women to 'fish rather than giving them fish' fuels her efforts to elevate and support female entrepreneurs across the globe.Join us as we discuss the church's need to embrace and support the business community and the vital role of entrepreneurship in combating poverty. Elaine also offers practical advice on launching coaching or counseling businesses, navigating financial boundaries, and empowering women to follow their God-given callings. Plus, you'll learn how you can connect with Elaine and even join her on her inspiring missions to Kenya. Don't miss this powerhouse episode that promises to spark your entrepreneurial spirit and deepen your faith journey!Guest Info/Links:Website: https://shestepsforwardcoaching.com/  Website: https://shestepsforwardinternational.org/ Call to Action:Join our free Facebook Group  https://www.facebook.com/groups/entrepastorsconnect 

In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast Jon and Les talk with Michael Shafer, co-founder and Executive Director of G6 Allies.  Not only has Michael served in pastoral ministry for his entire adult life, he has especially grown to have a heart for serving pastors.   He is keenly aware of how church leaders and their families are often overwhelmed by the brutal demands of ministry. In response to this burden, Michael and his wife Whitney launched G6 Allies which exists to provide a team and tools that help pastors achieve balanced growth in every area of life so they can be an example to their church of authentically healthy leadership.  G6 Allies offers support in several key areas for pastors, including financial development, which is one of Michael's personal specialties.  He helps pastors learn how to get into the stock market and build profitable investment portfolios.  We're happy to offer Micheal's story as another possible avenue for our audience to explore as they seek to grow new streams of income in order to better provide for their families and be less dependent upon their churches.Guest Info/Links:Website: https://www.g6allies.com/finances Email: michael@g6allies.com Call to Action:Get our free video resource:  Breaking Through Your Upper Limit Challengehttps://www.entrepastors.com/moneymindset 

In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast Jon and Les have a conversation with pastor, business coach, and leadership expert Kevin Elworth.  Kevin unpacks a powerful principle that, “Your future is designed by the questions you're willing to answer.”  Often in our lives and ministries, we find ourselves experiencing less than amazing results because we've been asking less than amazing questions.  If we learn to ask better questions we will get better answers.  Kevin offers up an example of this principle by posing the better question he began wrestling with as a pastor and that is, “where does our money/income come from?”  He shares his story of the journey he's been on to rethink the traditional model of full-time pastoring that needlessly requires a pastor to be 100% financially dependent upon a church that is not able to adequately support him and his family.  Guest Info/Links:Website: https://www.pastorsthriving.com Call to Action:Get the ‘Wisdom for Pastors from Dan Miller' course for $48https://www.entrepastors.com/wisdom 

On this special Independence Day episode of the EntrePastors Podcast, we pause for a moment to not only celebrate our nation's independence, but to recognize the reality that many people are still living in bondage in a free society…even pastors!  The truth is we encounter pastors every week who are trapped in a system of pastoral poverty and often do not see a way out of it.  In this episode Jon shares some interesting correlations between the price our founding fathers had to pay for our freedoms and the similar investments we must make if we desire to break free from pastoral poverty.Call to Action:Get our FREE EntrePastors Get Started Guide https://www.entrepastors.com/start 

On this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast, hosts Jon Sanders and Les Hughes dive into a rich conversation with their guest, Devin Schurbert.  Devin shares his extraordinary journey of faith, fatherhood, and entrepreneurship.From adoption to creating successful youth ministries and multi-million-dollar businesses, Devin's path is nothing short of inspiring. He opens up about his dissatisfaction with traditional church settings, which led him to build a vibrant youth ministry at the local YMCA, and how these experiences set the stage for his entrepreneurial success.This conversation will explore the intertwining of ministry and business, emphasizing the importance of pastors taking their calling beyond church walls for financial stability and broader impact. Devin reveals how a miraculous healing spurred him to start a coaching business aimed at aligning faith with entrepreneurship. They also talk about Devin's books, "Authenticity Today" and "One Rung Away," his ministry to foster care and adopted children, and the crucial need for trauma-informed approaches in ministry.Join us as we explore Devin's insights on financial freedom, the purpose-driven life, and the shift in kingdom finances through entrepreneurship and media. Plus, stay tuned for tips on leveraging social media for influence and information on Devin's free guide to effective social media use. This is an episode packed with wisdom, practical advice, and a heartfelt commitment to uplifting communities through faith-driven entrepreneurship. Guest Info/Links:https://guidetoinfluence.com/ Call to Action:Get our FREE EntrePastors Get Started Guide https://www.entrepastors.com/start 

How often have you heard the phrase, “Just have faith,” in regards to pastors and their financial situation?  In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast Jon and Les talk about this often-used cliche and some of the underlying problems with it.  Even though at first blush this advice sounds very spiritual, there are many other variables to consider when it comes to pastors and their financial wellbeing.  Should we place our faith in God for our ultimate supply and provision?  Of course!  But that's only part of the equation.  If you're a pastor who's ever felt frustrated by someone implying you should just continue on in financial lack and scarcity and simply, “just have faith,” this conversation will be an encouragement to you.Call to Action:Check out our new resource:  Wisdom for Pastors from Dan Millerhttps://www.entrepastors.com/wisdom 

In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast, we're thrilled to dive deep into the inspiring journey of Trevor Hislop, a former pastor who transitioned into the entrepreneurial world of mental health care. Join hosts Jon Sanders and Les Hughes as they explore how Trevor founded LiveWell Behavioral Health to address crucial gaps in community mental health services. With a remarkable team of 29 providers and 37 staff members, LiveWell offers comprehensive care for individuals, couples, families, and communities.We'll hear about Trevor's personal story, influenced by his parents' divorce at a young age, leading him to pursue a career in counseling and therapy. Despite an 18-year tenure in various pastoral roles, including creative arts and executive positions, Trevor felt a calling towards vocational care, ultimately steering him to establish LiveWell. The conversation also touches on the complex topic of pastors transitioning from church ministry to marketplace roles, the challenges of identity struggles, and the importance of “holy restlessness”.Listen in as we uncover Trevor's transition journey, the role of mentorship, and his current work with PastorServe, providing crisis care and coaching for ministry leaders. Whether you're a pastor considering a new season or someone interested in the intersection of faith and entrepreneurship, this episode is packed with insights and inspiration.Guest Info/Links:Website for Livewell Behavioral Health: https://www.livewellbehavioralhealth.com/Website for PastorServe: https://pastorserve.org/Email: trevor@livewellbehavioralhealth.com Call to Action:Register for our upcoming webinar: Conquering Pastoral Povertyhttps://www.entrepastors.com/conquer 

In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast, we are excited to have Rob Wentz join us in a dynamic conversation about leadership coaching and effective communication. Rob, a seasoned leadership coach with 20 years of experience in radio broadcasting, sheds light on his journey from struggling with self-expression to becoming a communication expert. He shares insightful strategies on transforming personal struggles into powerful messages, the importance of authenticity, and how faith has guided him through life's transitions.Guest Info/Links:Website: https://www.leadimpacttransform.com/ Call to Action:Register for our upcoming webinar: Conquering Pastoral Povertyhttps://www.entrepastors.com/conquer 

In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast Jon and Les sit down with Dawn Marasco to talk about the ministry/business she is building as she is serving others who are in need of deep healing like God has done for her.  Dawn shares her powerful story of how God met her at a place of deep pain and trauma in her past and brought healing and wholeness into her life.  Dawn is now on a mission to share the hope, freedom, and peace that only Jesus can truly give as she is growing her online platform.  Dawn is a great example of what we call the Information-Based Pathway at EntrePastors, which is where you build a business around a core message and develop one or multiple streams of income as you serve others through that message.Guest Info/Links:Website: https://www.dawnmarasco.com/ Resource GUIDE:  https://www.dawnmarasco.com/guide Email:  Dawn@DawnMarasco.comCall to Action:Get our FREE EntrePastors Get Started Guide https://www.entrepastors.com/start 

In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast Jon talks with returning guest Greg Reed about his journey from pastoring to an incredible new season of ministry called “workplace life coaching.” With over four decades of pastoral ministry experience and a passion for reaching others, Greg transitioned to a workplace life coach role, bringing faith into the marketplace. From car dealerships to Coca-Cola distribution sites, he's impacting lives and boosting business environments. Learn how he's turning ministry into a thriving business model and get inspired by his story of faith, mentoring, and real success in corporate America. Guest Info/Links:Website: https://lifecelebrationinstitute.com/ Email: greg@thriving365.life Call to Action:Register to obtain certification and credentialing as a Workplace Life Coach through the Life Celebration Institute:  https://lifecelebrationinstitute.com/workplacelifecoach.html 

In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast, Jon Sanders and Les Hughes have an incredible conversation with Pastor Danny Holwerda. They talk about how pastors, with their unique people skills, can thrive in business. Danny shares his journey of balancing ministry, entrepreneurship, and overcoming financial struggles while maintaining a heart of service. From acquiring businesses to writing a book on overcoming sexual temptation, Danny's story is a testament to resilience and faith and is a great example of what it looks like to thrive as an entrepastor. Guest Info/Links:Email: dan@nexuschurchmn.com Call to Action:Register for Ghostwriter School webinar:  entrepastors.com/ghostwriter

In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast Jon and Les welcome back returning guest Joshua Brown…aka “The Pressure Washing Pastor,” to wrestle with the question of whether or not pastors lack the grit to make good entrepreneurs.  Joshua unpacks some of his thoughts about how the traditional model of vocational ministry has helped to reinforce a spirit of dependency and complacency that makes it hard for some pastors to do the work of an entrepreneur.  At first glance this might not seem to be that big of a deal, but as you will hear in this conversation, when pastors become reluctant to lean into the work ethic required for entrepreneurialism, they often struggle to engage people in the marketplace as a part of their ministries. Furthermore, dependency upon a church for a pastor's complete financial wellbeing is almost a guaranteed path to staying stuck in pastoral poverty and failing to provide a more significant stream of income for their families.  Guest Info/Links:Website: https://www.pressurewashingpastor.com/ Call to Action:Reserve a limited seat for our EntrePastors Business Builders Open House on May 15, 2024 at 9:00 am CST.  Send Jon an email at jon@entrepastors.com to claim your spot.

On this episode of the EntrePastors podcast Jon and Les talk with Lori Sheldon, author of the best-selling book Change of Heart in which she writes about caring for and walking alongside her husband through his heart transplant journey.  Lori also shares the story of how God brought her into contact with Jon and Les and the role that EntrePastors played in helping Lori bring her book to life.  Lori's story serves as a great encouragement to many in our audience who feel called and inspired to get their own books out into the world.  We also celebrate the reality that business is ministry and recognize how God can use our simple business endeavors in the marketplace as strategic opportunities for some cool “God stories” to be written!Guest Info/Links:Email: lsheldon@sio.midco.net Call to Action:Reserve a limited seat for our EntrePastors Business Builders Open House on May 15, 2024 at 9:00 am CST.  Send Jon an email at jon@entrepastors.com to claim your spot.

On this episode of the EntrePastors podcast Jon Sanders and Les Hughes welcome guest Joseph Bennett, who shares his journey from the medical field to full-time ministry on a foreign mission field, and then from life in Honduras to returning to the United States where he now balances serving a pastor along with running a commercial cleaning business. In this conversation you will hear them dive into the themes of investing in people, recognizing opportunities for income, and why Joseph is not looking to scale his businesses in this current season. Joseph's story illustrates the intersection of ministry and entrepreneurship as he leverages his business for community service and uses it to support his church and family while embracing the roles of pastor and business owner.Guest Info/Links:Email: joseph.bennett1180@gmail.com Call to Action:Join EntrePastors Business Buildershttps://www.entrepastors.com/businessbuilders 

In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast, Jon and Les talk with Ray Hilbert, founder of The Kingdom Factor, about the integration of faith and business. Ray shares the journey of his career and how he has navigated the challenges of aligning Christian values in corporate environments. Ray, Jon, and Les examine the American church's historical devaluation of business in favor of vocational ministry, emphasizing a kingdom mindset in workplace interactions. Ray shares how the Kingdom Factor is guiding marketplace leaders through local peer advisory groups. He advises ministry-minded individuals to follow God's calling with a passion-aligned, value-driven approach to entering the marketplace. His insights offer a profound perspective on leading with faith in business.Guest Info/Links:Website:  https://kingdomfactor.us/ Email: rhilbert@kingdomfactor.us Call to Action:Apply for one of our limited opening for a 30-day experience inside our Business Builders communityhttps://www.entrepastors.com/experience 

In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast Ryan Follis shares the story of his amazing transition journey from a corporate role with Target in which he honed significant skills in leadership and business acumen into the world of pastoral ministry.  Ryan unpacks some of the struggles and frustrations he experienced as he made that transition and how churches and pastors can benefit by learning and applying business principles in such a way as to bless their families, the churches they lead, and the communities they serve.  In addition to serving well in pastoral ministry, Ryan also now serves as the Lead Program Developer for the CEO (Creating Entrepreneurial Opportunities) program of the Midland Institute for Entrepreneurship that is inspiring and developing a new generation of entrepreneurs in highschools across the nation.  Guest Info/Links:Website:  https://www.midlandinstitute.com/ Email: rfollis@midlandinstitute.comCall to Action:Register for our upcoming webinar - Conquering Pastoral Povertyhttps://www.entrepastors.com/conquer 

In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast we welcome Scott Tharp, a bi-vocational pastor and financial coach, who shares his transformative journey from pastoral ministry to founding his business, Krisco Coaching. Motivated by personal financial triumphs and biblical principles, Scott now aids individuals in conquering financial difficulties, championing the importance of mindset in realizing one's earning potential. In this conversation Scott, Jon, and Les delve into the stigmas and challenges pastors face regarding personal wealth. They explore how coaching can empower pastors to diversify income streams and achieve greater financial security, all while juggling the demands of their sacred vocation.Guest Info/Links:https://www.kriscocoaching.com/entrepastors Call to Action:Register for our upcoming webinar - Conquering Pastoral Povertyhttps://www.entrepastors.com/conquer 

In this inspiring episode of the EntrePastors podcast, Jon and Les talk with Aisha “Wonderful” Jackson as she shares her transformative journey from corporate CFO to self-published author and entrepreneur. Facing tech barriers and self-doubt, Aisha embraced coaching, applied crucial business strategies, and underwent a profound spiritual realignment. She speaks candidly about her Caribbean roots, personal challenges, and the pivotal moment of pursuing her true calling. Through Aisha's story, you will hear the parallel struggles many pastors face as it pertains to believing God for more, reinventing their identity and the way they choose to show up in the world, and becoming comfortable charging others for the value they are delivering in the marketplace. Guest Info/Links:https://aishawonderfull.com/ https://aretemediainternational.com/ Call to Action:Register for our upcoming webinar - Conquering Pastoral Povertyhttps://www.entrepastors.com/conquer 

In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast Jon and Les talk with Scott Benham, founder of the Intreprenuer Academy.  Scott is on a mission to help people realize their giftings and talents to show up in the marketplace as key “intreprenuers” within growing organizations.  He explains that people with an intrepreneurial mindset are similar to entrepreneurs, but instead of focusing outside of an organization, they bring their skillset to bear from within the organizations they serve.  Rather than being “pigeonholed” into one lane or label within an organization, a true intrepreneur will expand their influence and value to make a bigger impact within and for the company.  This conversation will be a great inspiration to those who are energized at the thought of breaking free from typical employment scenarios, but who also are unsure about bootstrapping their own business from the ground up. Guest Info/Links:Website: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1209458836334468 Call to Action:Download our free Business Builders Checklist https://www.entrepastors.com/checklist 

In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast Jon talks with Chaz Freutel, a 'kingdompreneur,' and Director of the NOBLE Foundation Group (Network of Business and Entrepreneurial Leaders) about integrating entrepreneurship with Christianity. He encourages churches to make better use of underutilized spaces by creating entrepreneur centers and supporting their members in starting businesses. Through NOBLE, Chaz fosters a community of business leaders providing mentorship, resources, and support, including a NOBLE Academy to help launch businesses. Despite resistance from churches hesitant about embracing business practices, Chaz highlights the benefits of such integration for church growth, community strengthening, and financial support. Chaz shares NOBLE's aims to expand globally, fueled by a prophetic vision and collaborative partnerships.Guest Info/Links:Website: https://www.thenoblewisdom.com/ Call to Action:Register for our upcoming webinar:  How To Create a Purposeful and Profitable Life Celebrations Ministryhttps://www.entrepastors.com/celebrate 

For anyone who might find themselves serving in a toxic ministry culture where scarcity is the prevailing mindset, yet dreaming of a day where you could be walking in freedom and abundance, this episode is going to be a huge encouragement to you!  In this “Saturday Replay” episode, Jon and Les have a conversation with Eric Reploeg about his journey from his early years in ministry in which he felt somewhat trapped in a toxic and abusive church system that left him barely scraping by to support his family to eventually finding a much healthier rhythm of how church and business can work together to create a life of healthy abundance.  Today Eric is leading a growing vibrant church and working in the marketplace as a realtor.  He is also getting ready to pursue another stream of income as a professional speaker.  We're confident you will be blessed as you listen to Eric's story and dream of what is possible on your own EntrePastor journey.Guest Info/Links:https://www.facebook.com/eric.reploeg Email: ereploeg@vahills.org 

In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast Jon and Les talk with guest Carl Cox about embracing marketplace opportunities for ministry. Carl shares his experience of expanding his ministry beyond traditional church walls and building relationships with diverse groups, including businesses, sports teams and first responders agencies. He emphasizes the value of engaging in marketplace ministry and discusses the development of his brand as "The Bearded Chaplain." We are confident that for many pastors, serving as a chaplain in a marketplace context is a natural fit that not only utilizes pastoral skill sets, but can also provide a very profitable stream of income.Guest Info/Links:Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CarlCoxD2D Call to Action:Register for our upcoming webinar:  How To Create a Purposeful and Profitable Life Celebrations Ministryhttps://www.entrepastors.com/celebrate 

An old African proverb states, “If you want to go fast, go alone; if you want to go far, go together.”  It's not uncommon for pastors to struggle with loneliness and isolation in ministry.  The temptation to push on in isolation is even greater for a pastor who desires to step into an entrepreneurial endeavor.  In this 4-part miniseries of podcast episodes you will learn the downside of trying to take the EntrePastor journey alone.  You will also be challenged to lean into a healthy and supportive community and walk ahead in community.Call to Action:Join EntrePastors Business Buildershttps://www.entrepastors.com/businessbuilders