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Keith hosts a discussion with Pastor Jon Sanders on the Bible's teachings about money.  They explore the context of biblical verses, emphasizing that wealth itself is not sinful but how it's used matters. They discuss tithing, noting it's a principle of generosity, not a legalistic rule. The Bible does not condemn real estate or property ownership, as it is not explicitly forbidden. Wealth can be a tool for doing good and providing housing for others. Resources: Explore the EntrePastors platform to learn more about Pastor Jon Sanders' work in helping pastors with entrepreneurship and financial management. 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Is it virtuous to acquire wealth, or are you going to hell for that one Bible verse reads, "it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God". I asked Pastor John Sanders all about it, as well as what other religions say about money today on get rich education   since 2014 the powerful get rich education podcast has created more passive income for people than nearly any other show in the world. This show teaches you how to earn strong returns from passive real estate investing in the best markets without losing your time being a flipper or landlord. Show Host Keith Weinhold writes for both Forbes and Rich Dad advisors, who delivers a new show every week since 2014 there's been millions of listener downloads of 188 world nations. He has a list show guests and key top selling personal finance author Robert Kiyosaki, get rich education can be heard on every podcast platform, plus it has its own dedicated Apple and Android listener phone apps build wealth on the go with the get rich education podcast. Sign up now for the get rich education podcast or visit get rich education.com   Corey Coates  1:19   You're listening to the show that has created more financial freedom than nearly any show in the world. This is get rich education.   Keith Weinhold  1:35   Welcome to GRE from Bel Air, Maryland to Bel Air, California and across 188 nations worldwide. I'm Keith Weinhold, and this is get rich education. I hope that your week's off to a good start with 546 weekly episodes. We've approached investing from a lot of angles. Commonly, it's a strategic approach, but there are other wealth building approaches we discussed here, like mindset, what type of vehicle you're going to use, the academic perspective, the protective approach, then there's a mathematical angle. But today, for the first time, it's the theological perspective. Now, even if you're not a Christian or religious at all, what the Bible says about money has import, because the Bible is the number one selling book of all time, so it surely affects the mindset and the approach of those around you. I've got a pretty inflammatory question for you, if money is the root of all evil, then why do they ask for it at church? Now I say that a little jokingly. We're going to debunk that in fact and more as Pastor John joins us shortly, I will hit that verse head on and ask him about it, the verse that says it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. I'm really interested in what he says about that. I mean, in fact, that's actually something I wanted to know about for decades. That's always piqued curiosity inside me, and especially since I'm the 10 plus year host and founder of a platform called get rich education. There's a lot I'd like to ask about that. There is more that I'd like to ask about, if we get time. I'd also like to know what the Bible says about tithing and real estate and gambling and more. Let's meet Pastor John.   With over 20 years in pastoral ministry, this week's guest, also has a passion for using his voice to motivate and inspire ministry leaders. His father was also a pastor. He is non denominational. Hey, welcome to GRE Jon Sanders.   Jon Sanders  4:04   Keith, this is my pleasure to be here. Man, been looking forward to this conversation, so thanks for having me on the show   Keith Weinhold  4:09   me too. We're doing something really different this week. I've been anticipating it, and I sure have some specific things I want to ask you, even some Bible verses later that are somewhat antagonistic to wanting to build wealth. But before we drill down and get into that, just big picture, John, when we talk about what the Bible says about money broadly, what should we keep in mind    Jon Sanders  4:34   with anything when it comes to Scripture? One of the greatest principles to keep in mind is that context matters, because without context, you can make the Bible say about anything you want it to say. And that's probably what we're going to dig into a little bit, is that if you just read a verse in one little snippet and divorce it from not only its context, but the rest of Scripture, you can come away with a pretty skewed view, as many people in the world. Have, as well as many people in the church, many Christians have a skewed view about money and about wealth because of some, you know, certain verses that I'm sure we'll get to today, I would say just an overarching principle, context matters, and hopefully we can show a little bit of that context in our conversation and just see that maybe what you thought the Bible says about money is not, in fact, what the Bible says about money. We'll see where this goes.   Keith Weinhold  5:24   Context matters and mindset matters. You know that we're a real estate investing show, but episode number one of the get rich education podcast from 2014 is titled, your abundance mindset. Do Christians worship a God of abundance, where he would want you to use your God given talents to flourish and produce and make more in this world. Or do you not see it that way?   Jon Sanders  5:53   I 100% see it that way. And what's interesting to me is that as believers, we would say, many of us would agree with things like we believe in this limitless God who spoke the universe into existence by nothing more than the power of his spoken word and just the abundant world in which we live like we believe in that God who can do all kinds of miraculous things. And yet, then, when it comes to the subject of money, so often, we live out something very different than that. With such scarcity, we act as though there's such limited resources at our disposal, and our thinking is so enmeshed in poverty thinking and scarcity thinking. And I think as God's people, we ought to be some of the most abundant thinking people there is because we are supposedly tapped into the most abundant source the world has ever known. So there is a discrepancy there, but I'm 100% with where you are on that we serve an abundant God, and we would do well to think in abundant terms, because I think we're gonna find that his resources never run out.   Keith Weinhold  6:57   Right? We're here to think abundantly in flourish. One thing I like to say is, don't live below your means. Grow your means. Christians should when I'm asking you as a pastor, I would think they would believe that God was an abundant creator. He created the earth that we live on a gigantic piece of real estate.    Jon Sanders  7:17   Yeah, and so much more. And like I said, it never runs out. Whether we're talking about his physical resources or we're talking about the more intangible resources that we can't necessarily hold in our hands. There is always more than enough with the God that we serve. And yet, how then do we come to such places of scarcity and limitation? I would contend this Keith that if someone is actually reading the Bible, applying the principles to their life, they will inevitably, more and more grow in their wealth and in their abundance and in their ability to manage well the resources that God has put into their hand. Now that's not the same as what some might put into the category of what they'd call the prosperity gospel, where God wants everyone to be rich and never to have any sickness or financial difficulties like those are not the same messages. We're not all promised the same exact outcomes, but I believe if we follow the timeless principles, the laws that have been established by the Creator that he's shared with us through His word, I think we can expect to flourish and thrive and prosper and do well and continually grow whatever resources he's put into our hands. As a matter of fact, I would point to a parable that Jesus told, many of the parables that Jesus told in the Gospel accounts of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, many of them deal with money. Now, all of Jesus's parables got to a deeper, like more Kingdom spiritual lesson. But in many of them, he used something that all of us can relate to, and that is money. Because scripture has a lot to say about money. And then, specifically, in one of those parables in Matthew 25 I believe Jesus told a story of the master who represents God in the story how he gave differing talents or financial amounts to three different servants based upon their own abilities. And right in there, there's some truth that we can learn and apply, that we don't all have the same abilities, but God allows us, He gives us certain things that are in our capability to handle, and then with that comes an expectation that we manage that well, because it doesn't actually belong to us. That's a big principle of money in Scripture is that none of it actually belongs to us. All of it belongs to the Lord, but we are stewards. That's kind of a Bible word. We are the managers of the resources He's given us. And even from that parable I mentioned in Matthew 25 there is an expectation that we take what has been entrusted to us and we multiply it. And if we fail to do that, the words of the master that Jesus. In that parable, were you wicked and lazy servants? The words of the master to the one servant who basically squandered what had been entrusted to him, he was called a wicked and lazy servant. So there's an expectation that we are not wicked and lazy servants, but that instead, we take whatever resources have been entrusted to us and multiply them for the good of God's kingdom and for His glory. So that's just one. I mean, there's countless stories that Jesus told that we can learn principles like that from.   Keith Weinhold  10:30    I think building prosperity is being the opposite of laziness or sloth. Is it bad to be wealthy?    Jon Sanders  10:39   I would say, according to the Bible, 100% No, it is not wrong or immoral or sinful to be wealthy. We can point to many heroes of our faith who were men and women of great wealth. We can also point in Scripture to wicked people who also were men and women of great wealth. So the question is not whether or not someone has money. That's not what sets them apart as righteous or wicked. It's what they do with that money. It's how they live. It's their character that really is what we measure that by. And so here's what I would contend without money, it's really hard to do good things in the world. You're very limited when you put money in the hands of good people, those people can use those resources for all kinds of good purposes and to help a lot of people. I mean, that's just common sense, and so it's not a bad thing for righteous people to multiply their wealth and to grow in their wealth in order to be in a position to help even more people.   Keith Weinhold  11:39   The way I think about it, is that producers and entrepreneurs, they need to give first before they can create any prosperity for themselves. And what's foundational in our mission here at GRE is to do good in the world, provide housing that's clean, safe, affordable and functional. You're giving you're qualifying for a loan, you're buying property, you're taking on risk before anything can possibly come back to you and John here, I've often touted, hey, we provide housing that's clean, safe, affordable and functional. We can maybe abolish the term slumlord, for example. So that's what I'm talking about with doing good in creating prosperity for ourselves as a result of that.   Jon Sanders  12:24   Yeah, and I'll point out another biblical principle that you just outlined, whether you realize it or not, and that is the law of sowing and reaping. It's the law of the harvest. You don't have to believe in God for this to be true. If you go plant something, you will get more of the thing you planted, if you tend to the soil well, and if the conditions are right, and you mentioned it, that is risk. Like there's risk involved. Every time a farmer goes and sows seed into the soil, like there's no guarantee that I'm going to get that back, things can happen. It's a believable risk. It's a relatively manageable risk. It's a risk, nonetheless, to take a great amount of seed and put it into the soil in faith. And I want to point that word out. There's faith when we as entrepreneurs go out, we're acting in faith when we take that risk. And again, it's something that we have to kind of weigh it out, is this a wise risk to take? But at the end of the day, there still is no guarantee. But there is that law of sowing and reaping and the law of the harvest. And I think God honors that, I know he honors that I believe he is honored by our faith. It literally can be an act of worship done to him was we go start businesses, as we invest in real estate, as we buy properties like that, actually can be part of our worship, and us fulfilling the very purpose for which God put us here, to manage what he's given us, to multiply it, and then to do good with it, as you're describing. I agree totally.   Keith Weinhold  13:48   that's a good point. It really is an act of faith to provide an income property, faith that you're going to have a rent paying tenant, faith that you're going to be able to maintain the place, faith that you're buying a property in a market where you have a good expectation that you're going to be able to have future rent paying tenants. Yeah, it really is an act of faith. Well, John, there are some specific verses in the Bible that are really well known and deal with money. One is the often misquoted verse that everyone is familiar with. And what's misquoted is that people say that money is the root of all evil. But as we know, that verse from the book of Timothy is misquoted. It is for the love of money that is the root of all evil. Can you tell us more about that, why it's misunderstood, and actually, just what that really means for the love of money is the root of all evil,   Jon Sanders  14:42   by the way, just stepping back a second in the conversation to your question, is it wrong to be rich? Here's another supporting text where the answer is no, because the verse you're speaking of the apostle Paul wrote this in a letter to Timothy. He's telling Timothy again, in the context, he's telling Timothy. To address the rich people in the church and say some things to them, teach the rich people some things, and he didn't tell them, you know, shame them for having wealth and for being rich. Instead, he's teaching them how to be rich, how to be a good rich person. And it's in that context where that line is found, that the love of money is the root of all evil. Fast forward to modern times. We've kind of thrown the word love out of it, and we just said, There it is. Money is the root of all evil, and we say it with a sense of self righteousness. As I'm sitting here, broke, living paycheck to paycheck, I don't want to be one of those evil rich people. That's not what it says at all. It's saying the love of money is the root of all evil, and we do need to step into this for just a moment. There are warnings in Scripture about money, because if we don't realize and recognize the power of wealth and the power of money, I believe probably one of the reasons God's word says more about money than it does so many other topics is because the danger that money has to compete with God himself. I often say I don't think it's God and the devil that are in competition with each other. In many ways, it's God and money, because Jesus even said you can't serve both. You can't have two masters. You'll either love the one or despise the other. That doesn't mean you can't worship God and have money. It says you can't worship them both, because your allegiance is going to go one way or the other, and the more wealthy we become. There is a danger in that, or maybe even before the wealth shows up. If there is this just burning desire to be rich above all else, it can pull us off course. It can pull our focus away from the Lord. So there is a warning in that that we should heed and listen to. Apparently, according to Scripture, money is powerful, and it's powerful for good and it's powerful for evil. And so if we're going to have some of it, and if we're going to grow the amount that we have, it sounds like it's a pretty powerful tool that we ought to know how to use and how to use properly, no different than when you throw the keys to the car to your teenage driver, like we just put a very powerful tool in their hands, and we pray and trust that they're going to use it wisely and not drive it off the cliff, you know, or kill someone in the process. And money's very much the same way. So the warning is good, but what's not good is to take it out of context and build this paradigm of somehow, the less money I have, the more righteous I am. And in the platform that I'm building, we have a online community. We call it entree pastors, that specifically helps pastors do better financially through entrepreneurial business man, we combat this mindset all the time, because we're dealing not only with people who've been in the church most of their life, but people who have led in the church, and there is so much scarcity thinking around money that we have to address so many of these themes that you and I are unpacking right now. So yeah, often I have found myself taking people to this Scripture and having them read it again and again until they hear themselves say that the love of money is the root of all evil, not having money that is not the root of all evil, it's the love of it. So hopefully that helps shine some light on that confusion   Keith Weinhold  18:15   yes, so one can take it too far if it becomes the love of money? Well, there is a verse in the Bible. In fact, I think it occurs in more than one place. 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Chris Martinson, listen to get rich education with Keith Weinhold, and don't quit your Daydream.    Keith Weinhold  20:56   Welcome back to get rich education. We've got a pretty special episode today. Our discussion is what the Bible has to say about money, and we're talking with Pastor John Sanders. He's breaking it down for us. John, this is the one thing I thought about more than any other before chatting with you today. It is that well known verse about the camel going through the eye of a needle. And John, I first remember my mom telling me about this verse. Perhaps I was as young as age 12, and that verse is, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. Here I am a 10 plus year host of a show called get rich education, helping people build wealth ethically through real estate investing. But how do we square up that verse if we're looking to make more of ourselves financially?   Jon Sanders  21:53   Yeah, and like we said at the beginning of the show, if that's all it said, and if that's the only thing you knew, you would come away from that pretty convinced that Jesus thinks it's impossible to love God and also be rich, like there's just no way a rich person can enter the kingdom of heaven. But as we said, context matters. So if we kind of zoom out a little bit and look at the greater context of what's happening in that passage of Scripture, you will recall, and maybe some are hearing this for the first time. But there was a rich man who approached Jesus, and he basically was kind of wanting to justify himself, and so he asked the question, you know, what good things must I do to inherit eternal life and inherit the kingdom of God? And Jesus starts by saying, follow the commandments. And this rich guy basically says, I'm paraphrasing all of this. You can go read it for yourself, but he's saying I've done all those things which, by the way, side note, No, he hasn't. None of us have followed all of God's 10 Commandments and more, like we just I've broken every single one of them. We're all sinners. Probably you have too Exactly. So he's already off base, this rich guy. So then Jesus hits him where he knows it's gonna hurt, and he says, Okay, here's the one thing you're still lacking. Go sell everything you have and give it to the poor, and then come and follow Me. And what it says is that the rich man turned away very sad, because he had great wealth, and see Jesus exposed what this man really worshiped in that I don't believe that that is a commandment from Jesus to all of us to go, sell everything we have, give to the poor and come follow him. That was a specific statement spoken to this specific man, and it did exactly what it was meant to do. It kind of smoked out the real heart issue that was happening here. So then Jesus turns to his disciples after this man walks away sad because he was not willing to pay that price. And that's where Jesus makes this statement that is so classic, where we all know, you know, it's easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of heaven. If you keep reading a few verses later, Jesus goes on to say, with man, this is impossible. But with God, all things are possible. So it is possible for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. It may be more difficult. It may be more challenging because, as we said a minute ago, when we do have great wealth, that wealth competes in many ways with our heart for the place that God wants to hold in our heart. It is easy when we have margin and we don't need God as much, or we don't think we need God as much. We don't necessarily have to humble ourselves as much when I have all these resources. But that's not impossible. It is possible for godly people to have great wealth and to bow in humility before King Jesus, and to worship Him, and ultimately, to inherit the kingdom of heaven and be better for it, and not, you know, worse off. So again, I hopefully that explains that a little bit or gives some more light to that, because if you just take that little snippet, you're essentially taking it out of the greater context and missing the point, and you're. Making the point something that Jesus never intended, which was to say, rich people can't get to heaven. That's a mishandling of that text   Keith Weinhold  25:08    yeah? Because I think it states that, or something close to it three times in the Bible, in the Quran, the Muslim holy book, also has something similar in it, yeah.   Jon Sanders  25:19   And again, I know in in the New Testament, where it's mentioned multiple times, it's probably because it's found in those Gospel accounts that basically tell the same story just from four different authors. So that's sometimes where you see that repetition in the New Testament is because it's the same story being told just from a slightly different vantage point a different author. But the principle is there, to try to say that scripture forbids people from being wealthy or from pursuing wealth, would be a complete misstatement. It's simply not true. You know, to read scripture in its entirety, you can walk away from it with this understanding that God, not only is he not opposed to wealth, but God is the source, because he owns it all. It all belongs to him, and he actually the more I walk in faithfulness with what he's given to me and what he's entrusted to me, the more I can actually expect will be given to me, because I will see the fruits of those labors multiplied. That's the path I'm on right now, unashamedly, unapologetically, I am working on growing wealth, not only for my family in this generation, but scripture says a righteous man leaves an inheritance to his children's children and man, what if we started telling that story more than trumpeting these verses that make it sound like God is really upset with people who have Money? What if we actually encourage God's people to go build wealth and create more of it? Yeah, because   Keith Weinhold  26:46   I've heard a few different takes on that verse, John, about a rich man not being able to enter the kingdom of God. You know, some have joked, Oh, does the church just want you to put everything in the offering plate and not have anything for yourselves? Another take on it, I guess. If I read the verse closely about how a rich man cannot enter the kingdom of God, well, don't die rich. You be wealthy and then bequeath everything to your heirs upon your death. So technically, you're not dying rich. There are a lot of takes upon that verse. Really appreciate getting your perspective and your interpretation on that context piece being really important, John, when we think about what the Bible says about money, in the intersection of both money and the Bible, oftentimes we think about tithing, which I think of that is giving a 10% of your income to the church. So do you have any thoughts about tithing, or just some of the other general things that the Bible says about money.   Jon Sanders  27:41   I certainly have some thoughts, but more importantly, Scripture says some things. So it really doesn't matter what John thinks about it, but tithing is a controversial subject, so let me start with maybe something that's not so controversial, and we can jump into the tithing. Here's something that is not controversial from Scripture. The more we give, the more of a blessing it is for us. The more that we can give, the more God blesses us. God blesses generosity. So hopefully we can all agree upon that For God so loved the world John 316 that He gave His one and only son. So there's a direct correlation between loving and giving. And the more that I give, the more God seems to bless my life. And I know it sounds cliche, if you grew up in the church, we always heard statements like, you cannot out give God. The more I give, the more God gives back. And again, I'm careful to say that because I don't want to treat God like a cosmic slot machine where I put in $1 and pull the lever and hope to get 100 it is, again, it's just one of those laws that God has established that he blesses generosity. So then the question just becomes, what does our giving look like? What does our generosity look like when we look to Scripture, Old Testament? Bottom line tithing was, I mean, it was commanded. It was part of the overall giving that God required of his people. And a tithe is a 10% of the first fruits 10% off the top. And it's like when people argue that, or they say, Well, I'm tithing 2% that's like saying you ran a three mile marathon. My marathon is not three miles, right? Yeah, tithing is 10% the question is, is tithing for modern day believers? Are we supposed to be doing that? I will share my quick thoughts with you. I believe we are under grace. We are no longer under law. So I don't think that this is a matter of salvation. It's not at that level. But I will say this, I believe Jesus commended tithing, and I'll tell you where it took place, and you can go look at this on your own if you want. I think it's in Matthew 23 again, the context is not really about tithing. The context is Jesus is dealing with the religious establishment. The people he had the harshest words forever were the religious leaders, and he's taken them to task. And he says in there, like you guys tithe off of your mint and your dill, like you're tithing off of everything, like the illegal. Stick level, and yet you're ignoring the greater elements. You know, mercy, love, sacrifice. And then he goes on to say, You should do the first without ignoring the second. And I'm paraphrasing again, so go read it for yourself. What many people look at that passage and they say, here it is, Jesus commended tithing. He basically said, No tithing is good. You should do that. One other case I would make for New Testament, tithing is simply this. When Jesus stepped onto the scene in the New Testament, He never lowered the bar that was set in the Old Testament law. He actually elevated it. I'll give an example. Jesus said something like you have heard it said, You shall not murder. But I tell you, if you hate your brother, you're worse than a murderer. So he elevates it from just the physical act of killing to the heart condition of hating that leads to the killing. He did the same thing with adultery. You have heard it said, Thou shalt not commit adultery, but I tell you, if you look at a woman with lust, you've already committed adultery in your heart. So he raises the bar, not lowers it. So my question has always been, when it comes to tithing, would we believe Jesus to lower that bar and say, Ah, it's not important. Don't do it. You don't need to do it. Or would we expect him to raise the bar? I actually think the bar has been raised. He commended the poor widow that gave everything she had, and it wasn't much, but it was 100% sacrifice, and Jesus praised her. Now I don't think he's that's prescriptive of all of us to go drain our bank accounts, but I think what God is celebrating in the New Testament is sacrificial giving. For me personally, my personal opinion is that tithing is just kind of a good starting place for biblical giving. But I don't hold it up as a legalistic rule that says Thou shalt tithe based on what we see in the Old Testament and how we see it transition over into the New Testament. That tithing is not a bad idea, but if you're a modern day Christian that says I don't believe in tithing, I don't think I need to tithe. Okay, cool. I'm not mad about it. My challenge to you then would simply be this, what does generosity look like to you, and are we lowering the bar? Are you pushing back on tithing because you desire to give less? And if so, maybe there's a heart condition. There of you wanting to cling to something instead of being open handed. It's not my place to sit and look over your shoulder and go. You need to give more of your income. I mean, the Holy Spirit does a better job of being the Holy Spirit than than I do. So really, that's between you and the Lord. But my question and my challenge to modern Christians would be, what does generosity look like for you. You know, what is your discipline or your habit, your system around giving? If there is none, I personally think that's a problem. I think there ought to be some level of generosity happening in your life, because you'll be blessed, and God will use you to bless others. And that's a pretty cool thing, when God gets to channel his resources through you to someone else. So I don't believe everything that God allows us to have in our hands is 100% for us to hold for ourself. I think some of it is he's using us as a channel or a conduit to flow those resources in other directions. So those are just a few kind of high level thoughts of not only what Scripture says about tithing, for sure, but also maybe how we might look at it in a New Testament context,   Keith Weinhold  33:23   there's some good questions for you, the listener, to ask yourself when it comes to the framing and the importance of your giving and your tithing. John, what does the Bible say about real estate or property?    Jon Sanders  33:35   There are places I can't tell you you know exact location in Scripture off the top of my head, but I know there are places in Scripture that talk about going and purchasing land, or somebody owning land, and so I believe scripture upholds the idea of personal private property, and private property ownership, obviously, under the context of what we said earlier, that all of it ultimately belongs to the Lord. But I think it's a good thing. I certainly will tell you this. It's not condemned in Scripture. I know of nowhere in Scripture where we are forbidden from pursuing real estate or pursuing land. Is it like I say on the flip side, I could find examples where people bought and sold land. I'll give you one. Just popped into my head. In the early church, Ananias and Sapphira, they actually were put to death. And it's a really deep story. The issue, the reason they were judged instantly is because they lied about it. But they had land, they went and sold it, and they did not give all of it to the church leaders. And that was not the issue. The issue was they lied about the fact that they were giving all so they wanted to look a certain way, and that's the sin that God was kind of rooting out of the early church. But right in there, I think it's in like Acts chapter four, maybe or five, right in that area, it says directly, was not the land yours before you sold it and after you sold it, was not the land the money yours to keep. Why have you done this wicked thing? And the thing, again, that they were being judged for was lying to the Holy Spirit. And it was kind of like in that moment in the early church, the Lord was saying, we're not doing this like we're not going to live this fake, hypocritical life. And he judged it instantly, kind of grateful that God doesn't still deal with us in that way. It's not to say that he could not. That's a quick story that popped into my head as an example of buying and selling land. So if you do buy and sell land, just don't lie to the Lord about about how much you sold it for, because he knows it was his in the first place. He knows how much you sold it for. So just be honest in your dealings. There you go.    Keith Weinhold  35:39   Well, I'm grateful that the Bible doesn't say you have a limit of five rental properties. That's really good to hear. Right? Well, John, as we're winding down here, we've talked about Christianity and what the Bible says about money. Are there any non Christian religions that, just if you could spotlight one, that have a really interesting approach to money, whether that's Muslims avoiding debt, or anything, Hindus or Buddhists believe just any one thing. That's particularly noteworthy with non Christian religions approach to money.    Jon Sanders  36:09   I'm going to acknowledge a lot of my ignorance when it comes to other world religions. I can speak of one thing very locally to where I live, I don't know. It's kind of a religious thing. It's kind of a cultural thing. So where I live in South Dakota, I'm surrounded by, you know, an Indian reservation not too far from me. And the Native American culture is very prevalent here. And one thing that's been interesting to me to learn over the years is that, as I understand it, the Native American culture does not believe that you can own property. So they don't own land. They don't believe in owning land, at least historically, traditionally. So again, is that a religious thing? Is that a cultural thing? Not exactly sure. I don't share that belief, but it's an interesting take on things. So I'm sure there's so much more that a different guest could give you in terms of insight on other world religions when it comes to, you know, their view on certain deaths and philosophies around finances and things like that. For me, I really have studied one very deeply, and that's Christian faith. So I don't really feel like I'm much of an expert to speak from those other perspectives.   Keith Weinhold  37:18   Well, John, this has been enlightening to me. I've learned some things, and I sure might now know how to explain my way out of the whole camel in the eye of a needle. Verse there, if someone wants to learn more about you, tell them how   Jon Sanders  37:34   you can look me up online. I have a website called entrepastors.com me and my partner, les Hughes, as I said earlier, we help pastors provide better for their families through entrepreneurial business. If you want to connect with me, if you just go to entrepasters.com all of the links to connect with my social media and everything else are right there, and I'd be happy to jump on a call or serve you in any way that I can. So I would welcome you reaching out.    Keith Weinhold  38:01   Oh, thanks a lot for offering that to our audience. It's been a pleasure hosting you.   Jon Sanders  38:05   Thanks, Keith. Been a fun conversation. I appreciate you having me.   Keith Weinhold  38:15   Oh, yeah, good stuff from Pastor John today. I did not know that Pastor John would agree with me this much. I guess I'm frankly, a little relieved I learned some things too. Check out his platform again. It's called entre pastors. This was definitely an anticipated episode here today. The good news is we've got more anticipated episodes amidst an expected economic slowdown in potential recession. What actually happens to real estate in a recession? I will cover that and then with a lot of political turmoil and policy change coming from the White House that promises to massively swing the economy. I would like to have someone that's inside the White House and advising President Trump himself on his economic policy to come here on the show so that I can go ahead and ask them about it. Well, that's hard to do while they're in office and the administration is in full swing like this. So speaking of anticipated shows coming up here on the GRE podcast in future weeks, we have the financial advisor, the budget director of a past president that advised that president in the White House. He will be our guest here on the show. You'll learn what you can expect from him for the next nearly four years. And you know, something that might be even better to have that past president's White House Advisor here on the show, because he will feel emboldened to be more critical. Perhaps. Stay tuned for that big thanks to the terrifically knowledgeable John Sanders today in. Till next week, I'm your host, Keith Weinhold, don't quit your Daydream.   Dolf Deroos  40:07   Nothing on this show should be considered specific, personal or professional advice. Please consult an appropriate tax, legal, real estate, financial or business professional for individualized advice. Opinions of guests are their own. Information is not guaranteed. All investment strategies have the potential for profit or loss. 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Jon Sanders joins host Ty Williams on today's episode of Electric People. Jon has over 1,700(!) installs and counting with Sunrun. Jon talks about his start into solar and the processes and routines that have made him the install king at Sunrun.

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Working a side hustle is no longer the exception for pastors, it's the norm. Embracing it might answer a lot of your (and your church's) needs.Karl Vaters talks with Jon Sanders about the rise in covocational pastoring and why it's something more pastors, especially small-church pastors, should take seriously. Jon is the co-host of the EntrePastors Podcast and the co-founder of EntrePastors.com (with Les Hughes).The culture around us is shifting. The idea that someone entering the workplace will get a single full-time job to pay the bills is a rarity. And the church is no exception. But, unlike the secular marketplace, we shouldn't be playing catch-up with this. We can lead.Jon and Karl talk about several important aspects of bivo/covo ministry, including:Why this is a growing needHow to make the shift without neglecting the churchThe difference between bivocational and covocationalHow to prepare your congregation for a covocational pastorateAnd more.Jon also serves as the Director of Coaching for the 95Network, a ministry that specializes in serving small to midsize churches.Podcast Links:Rural Church Rescue, with Jon Sanders (ep 024)EntrePastorsHow The Side Hustle Is Changing The Face Of Pastoring Bonus MaterialFinding a Covocational Job That Fits a Pastor's Skills and Schedule, with Jon SandersWhat marketplace jobs work well for covocational pastors?The skills you have honed as a pastor are highly desirable in the secular marketplace. But how can they be turned into a paying job that won't interfere with your pastoral calling?In the bonus conversation I talk to Jon Sanders of EntrePastors.com about how to make that transition, including several real-life examples of pastors who have made that transition well.To get Bonus Content every week, click here to become a Financial Partner, or here to subscribe to the Free Weekly Newsletter.

Working a side hustle is no longer the exception for pastors, it's the norm. Embracing it might answer a lot of your (and your church's) needs.Karl Vaters talks with Jon Sanders about the rise in covocational pastoring and why it's something more pastors, especially small-church pastors, should take seriously. Jon is the co-host of the EntrePastors Podcast and the co-founder of EntrePastors.com (with Les Hughes).The culture around us is shifting. The idea that someone entering the workplace will get a single full-time job to pay the bills is a rarity. And the church is no exception. But, unlike the secular marketplace, we shouldn't be playing catch-up with this. We can lead.Jon and Karl talk about several important aspects of bivo/covo ministry, including:Why this is a growing needHow to make the shift without neglecting the churchThe difference between bivocational and covocationalHow to prepare your congregation for a covocational pastorateAnd more.Jon also serves as the Director of Coaching for the 95Network, a ministry that specializes in serving small to midsize churches.Podcast Links:Rural Church Rescue, with Jon Sanders (ep 024)EntrePastorsHow The Side Hustle Is Changing The Face Of Pastoring Bonus MaterialFinding a Covocational Job That Fits a Pastor's Skills and Schedule, with Jon SandersWhat marketplace jobs work well for covocational pastors?The skills you have honed as a pastor are highly desirable in the secular marketplace. But how can they be turned into a paying job that won't interfere with your pastoral calling?In the bonus conversation I talk to Jon Sanders of EntrePastors.com about how to make that transition, including several real-life examples of pastors who have made that transition well.To get Bonus Content every week, click here to become a Financial Partner, or here to subscribe to the Free Weekly Newsletter.

SEASON 2 - EPISODE 110 - JON SANDERS & ANNA MOTTRAM - WRITER / DIRECTOR & WRITER / ACTOR On the episode of the Team Deakins Podcast, we speak with writer/director Jon Sanders & actor/writer Anna Mottram (PAINTED ANGELS, A CHANGE IN THE WEATHER, A CLEVER WOMAN). As old friends and a fellow filmmaking couple, we had a lot to talk about! Roger and Jon reminisce on coming up together amidst the fallout television left hanging over England's film scene, and we all compare our experiences working with our partners over a lifetime. Anna muses on the act of improvisation as an actor, and Jon shares how he works with the cinematographer to pull off the series of long takes that define their films. We later discuss the liberating force of digital cameras, and we learn why they opt to improvise every scene and shoot their films in chronological order. Towards the end, we reflect on their commitment to the theatrical experience, the reach of their films, and on the touching feedback Jon and Anna receive from their viewers. - This episode is sponsored by Aputure

If you're a ministry-minded person but struggle to have a healthy money mindset, this conversation is for you! In today's episode, Jon Sanders shares his story of being in pastoral ministry for over 20 years and believed that meant he should be poor. He discusses the journey God took him on to live empowered through creating another stream of income as a minister. We discuss the benefits of having a healthy perspective of money, the value of ministry outside the 4 walls of a church, and how you can create a profitable business to support your family and fulfill your calling in the kingdom of God! I know you'll love this episode, please leave a review and share it with a friend who needs it!   Grab You 3 Steps to Clarity on Your Brand Messaging: https://melissa-hughes.mykajabi.com/personalbrand Have your content done for you at Rise Social Media Agency: https://melissaleahughes.com/rise   Website: www.melissaleahughes.com Social Channels: TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@melissaleahughes Melissa's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/melissaleahughes/ Rise Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/risesocialmediaagency/?hl=en Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/melissa.harrington.758 Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@melissaleahughes   ------------------------------------------------------   Jon Sanders: Website: www.entrepastors.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jon.sanders.104 Join Business Builders: https://www.entrepastors.com/businessbuilders  

Jon Sanders is a trusted resource that we often glean from at 95Network. Especially, when it comes to understanding how to serve in ministry while simultaneously providing a good standard of living for your family. Jon and Les Hughes created Entrepastors with this principal at the forefront.Dale catches up with Jon on today's 95Podcast to learn more of what their experience of helping ministry leaders has shown so far. You'll enjoy Jon's honest assessment of the opportunities that are available if you only look in the right places.Show Notes: https://www.95network.org/entrepreneural-pastors-update-w-jon-sanders-episode-249/Support the show

Jon Sanders, 95Network's Director of Coaching, joins today's 95Podcast as a guest, discussing his recent experience at a retreat provided by the Boulder Crest Foundation. The retreat is called Struggle Well. They specialize in providing opportunities to help public servants in the first responder field and military personal work through post-traumatic impact. They focus specifically on Post-traumatic growth.Jon transparently shares how he didn't think he needed to spend a week on such a retreat to the point that he even considered not going. However, his life was forever changed as he discovered some deep-seated effects of traumatic encounters that he had experienced. This conversation is essential for anyone who serves in the ministry and as a first responder.Show Notes: https://www.95network.org/struggling-well-post-traumatic-growth-w-jon-sanders-episode-243/Support the Show.

In this episode, Jon Sanders, Sheet Metal Superintendent for The Jamar Company, shares the importance of pre-planning for projects, his thoughts on leadership development and the importance of learning something new every single day.

On this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast, hosts Jon Sanders and Les Hughes dive into a rich conversation with their guest, Devin Schurbert.  Devin shares his extraordinary journey of faith, fatherhood, and entrepreneurship.From adoption to creating successful youth ministries and multi-million-dollar businesses, Devin's path is nothing short of inspiring. He opens up about his dissatisfaction with traditional church settings, which led him to build a vibrant youth ministry at the local YMCA, and how these experiences set the stage for his entrepreneurial success.This conversation will explore the intertwining of ministry and business, emphasizing the importance of pastors taking their calling beyond church walls for financial stability and broader impact. Devin reveals how a miraculous healing spurred him to start a coaching business aimed at aligning faith with entrepreneurship. They also talk about Devin's books, "Authenticity Today" and "One Rung Away," his ministry to foster care and adopted children, and the crucial need for trauma-informed approaches in ministry.Join us as we explore Devin's insights on financial freedom, the purpose-driven life, and the shift in kingdom finances through entrepreneurship and media. Plus, stay tuned for tips on leveraging social media for influence and information on Devin's free guide to effective social media use. This is an episode packed with wisdom, practical advice, and a heartfelt commitment to uplifting communities through faith-driven entrepreneurship. Guest Info/Links:https://guidetoinfluence.com/ Call to Action:Get our FREE EntrePastors Get Started Guide https://www.entrepastors.com/start 

In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast, we're thrilled to dive deep into the inspiring journey of Trevor Hislop, a former pastor who transitioned into the entrepreneurial world of mental health care. Join hosts Jon Sanders and Les Hughes as they explore how Trevor founded LiveWell Behavioral Health to address crucial gaps in community mental health services. With a remarkable team of 29 providers and 37 staff members, LiveWell offers comprehensive care for individuals, couples, families, and communities.We'll hear about Trevor's personal story, influenced by his parents' divorce at a young age, leading him to pursue a career in counseling and therapy. Despite an 18-year tenure in various pastoral roles, including creative arts and executive positions, Trevor felt a calling towards vocational care, ultimately steering him to establish LiveWell. The conversation also touches on the complex topic of pastors transitioning from church ministry to marketplace roles, the challenges of identity struggles, and the importance of “holy restlessness”.Listen in as we uncover Trevor's transition journey, the role of mentorship, and his current work with PastorServe, providing crisis care and coaching for ministry leaders. Whether you're a pastor considering a new season or someone interested in the intersection of faith and entrepreneurship, this episode is packed with insights and inspiration.Guest Info/Links:Website for Livewell Behavioral Health: https://www.livewellbehavioralhealth.com/Website for PastorServe: https://pastorserve.org/Email: trevor@livewellbehavioralhealth.com Call to Action:Register for our upcoming webinar: Conquering Pastoral Povertyhttps://www.entrepastors.com/conquer 

In today's episode of The 95Podcast, Jon Sanders talks with guest Greg Reed about his journey from pastoring to an incredible new season of ministry called “workplace life coaching.” With over four decades of pastoral ministry experience and a passion for reaching others,Greg transitioned to a workplace life coach role, bringing faith into the marketplace. From car dealerships to Coca-Cola distribution sites, he's impacting lives and boosting business environments. Learn how he's turning ministry into a thriving business model and get inspired by his story of faith, mentoring, and real success in corporate America.Show Notes:  https://www.95network.org/is-it-time-to-become-a-life-coach-w-jon-sanders-greg-reed-episode-237/Support the Show.

This show aired on Tuesday, June 11th, 2024 on 107.9 and 980 The WAAV in Wilmington, NC. Guests include Jon Sanders. Jewish Voters, New Power Plant Rules, and more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Stan sits down with EntrePastors Podcast host and pastoral coach Jon Sanders. Support the Show.Be sure to follow 6:14 Ministries: facebook.com/614rebuildInstagram: @614rebuildTwitter: @614rebuild Learn more at 614ministries.org

In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast, Jon Sanders and Les Hughes have an incredible conversation with Pastor Danny Holwerda. They talk about how pastors, with their unique people skills, can thrive in business. Danny shares his journey of balancing ministry, entrepreneurship, and overcoming financial struggles while maintaining a heart of service. From acquiring businesses to writing a book on overcoming sexual temptation, Danny's story is a testament to resilience and faith and is a great example of what it looks like to thrive as an entrepastor. Guest Info/Links:Email: dan@nexuschurchmn.com Call to Action:Register for Ghostwriter School webinar:  entrepastors.com/ghostwriter

On this episode of the EntrePastors podcast Jon Sanders and Les Hughes welcome guest Joseph Bennett, who shares his journey from the medical field to full-time ministry on a foreign mission field, and then from life in Honduras to returning to the United States where he now balances serving a pastor along with running a commercial cleaning business. In this conversation you will hear them dive into the themes of investing in people, recognizing opportunities for income, and why Joseph is not looking to scale his businesses in this current season. Joseph's story illustrates the intersection of ministry and entrepreneurship as he leverages his business for community service and uses it to support his church and family while embracing the roles of pastor and business owner.Guest Info/Links:Email: joseph.bennett1180@gmail.com Call to Action:Join EntrePastors Business Buildershttps://www.entrepastors.com/businessbuilders 

Jon Sanders, 95Network's Director of Coaching, joins today's 95Podcast as a guest discussing his recent experience at a retreat provided by the Boulder Crest Foundation. The retreat is called Struggle Well. They specialize in providing opportunities to help public servants in the first responder field as well as military personal work through post-traumatic impact. They focus specifically on Post-traumatic growth.Jon transparently shares how he didn't think he needed to spend a week on such a retreat to the point that he even considered not going. However, his life was forever changed as he discovered some deep seated effects of traumatic encounters that's he has experienced. This conversation is so important for anyone serving in the first responder field as well as in ministry. Show Notes: https://www.95network.org/struggling-well-post-traumatic-growth-w-jon-sanders-episode-228/Support the show

Jon Sanders hosts today's 95Podcast talking with John D Hanson about some things he sees on the horizon for the global economy. The backdrop to this conversation is based on data provided by ITR ECONOMICS dealing with their forecasts of a looming economic correction that will effect all of us in one way or another. John sees an entrepreneur opportunity for the Church to prepare now in order to be a light as well as a resource to those in need.The insight John shares is based on the story of Joseph in Genesis and how he prepared during extreme prosperity for the coming famine. This podcast is sure to make you think!Show Notes: https://www.95network.org/the-joseph-project-w-jon-sanders-and-john-hanson-episode-226/Support the show

Jon Sanders hosts today's 95Podcast leading a powerful conversation with Wayne Prevett. Wayne founded Life Celebration Ministries to address the need for ministry to families in post-Christian Canada. He shares how the Lord has allowed him to impact so many lives that would never set foot inside the local church. Wayne believes that his Canadian experience is a precursor of what ministry will be like in America in the not to distant future. This podcast gives a lot of practical insight of ways to reach a nation that believes in God but isn't necessarily Christian.Show Notes: https://www.95network.org/travel-in-time-w-jon-sanders-wayne-prevette-episode-222/Support the show

In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast, Les Hughes and Jon Sanders welcome weight loss coaches Alan and Angie Thomas to share their transformative health journey. The couple discusses the impact of obesity in the church and their unique coaching approach, emphasizing long-term transformations and individuals taking responsibility for their health. They highlight the value of coaching and overcoming self-doubt, sharing inspiring success stories. The episode encourages listeners to invest in coaching, embrace imperfection, and prioritize personal growth.Guest Info/Links:Website:https://transformmyfuture.com/entrepastors Call to Action:Sign up to take part in our 30-Day Business Builders Experience.  Send an email to jon@entrepastors.com to reserve one of our limited spots available.

Jon Sanders hosts today's 95Podcast having a discussion with Jeff Gauss. Jeff was a church planter for many years and had a great deal of success, until he hit a major wall of burnout and depression about 6 years ago. He was actually one of Jon's coaching clients in the aftermath of all of that. He went on to start a business called Church Plant Solutions that does bookkeeping and tax returns for pastors and churches.Jeff is now back in full-time pastoral ministry as an Executive pastor at a church in Florida. When he moved from Minnesota/North Dakota to Florida, he was actually able to complete go off of all his anti-depressant medications. Today's discussion is about burn out in ministry as well as about his business and the services he is providing for churches and pastors.Show Notes: https://www.95network.org/the-road-to-recovery-from-ministry-burnout-w-jeff-gauss-episode-217/Support the show

Pastor, have you ever considered bringing more revenue into your life through launching a coaching business?  At EntrePastors, we see coaching as a great option for many pastors to consider for a number of different reasons.  However, we also see a number of pastors really struggling to get traction with their coaching businesses.  In this episode, Jon Sanders and Les Hughes share many of the positive aspects that make coaching an attractive option for pastors, and they also outline some serious areas that need to be carefully considered before ever getting into the business.  Call to Action:Join our FREE EntrePastors Connect group on Facebook:https://www.facebook.com/groups/entrepastorsconnect 

I loved this episode with Jon Sanders! Jon Sanders is the co-founder of EntrePastors, and the co-host of the EntrePastors podcast. With over 20 years in ministry, Jon has a passion for using his voice to motivate and inspire leaders in business through his professional coaching, speaking, and podcasting platforms. We discussed the importance of creating another stream of income for pastors and ministry leaders so that they can sustainably live out the mission God has called them to. You won't want to miss this episode!   Join The Social Media Mentorship so you can impact the world for Jesus and build an online business: https://melissaleahughes.com/social-media-mentorship   Website: www.melissaleahughes.com Social Channels: TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@melissaleahughes Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/melissaleahughes/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/melissa.harrington.758   Jon Sanders: Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/2pPbUnUzC7GQy2hKqfz7Ts?si=86a866776f7c4cb3   Website: https://www.entrepastors.com/ Facebook: EntrePastors - https://web.facebook.com/EntrePastors/?_rdc=1&_rdr Facebook Group: EntrePastorsConnect - https://web.facebook.com/groups/entrepastorsconnect/?_rdc=1&_rdr Youtube: EntrePastors - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4hNL03UIJhwVcDF8ha04GA

Firefighter/EMT and Co-Founder of EntrePastors.  Jon Sanders  joins Joseph to talk about prosperity gospel versus poverty mindset. Which is worse?  LINKS EntrePastors.com  SUBSCRIBE  First100K.com  SHREDDED FATHERS™ Shredded Dad: Ripped And Fit After 40™  Do you have a brotherhood of growth-minded men to help you weaponize your body, build mental toughness, and become an epic husband, father, and businessman? Apply at:  ShreddedFathers.com  Music: Purple-Planet.com

This show aired on Wednesday, August 23rd, 2023 on 107.9 and 980 The WAAV in Wilmington, NC. Guests include Jon Sanders and Congressman David Rouzer. Offshore Wind Costs, Updates from Washington, DC and more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This show aired on Friday, July 7th, 2023 on 107.9 and 980 The WAAV in Wilmington, NC. Guests include Jon Sanders. National PFAS Report, Flying Kites Save The World, and more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jesus said, "And the King will answer and say to them, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren, you did it to Me." (Matthew 25:40 NKJV) The Welcome Net strives to act out these words of Jesus through the Chicagoland Immigrant Welcome Network. It is dedicated to upholding the human dignity of some of the most vulnerable in their community.Jared Alleman joins guest host Jon Sanders today to discuss how he discovered that the mission field doesn't always require you to leave the country. This is a very eyeopening conversation.Show Notes: https://www.95network.org/guest-host-jon-sanders-welcoming-the-stranger-w-jared-alleman-episode-187/Support the show

95Network Director of Coaching Jon Sanders sits in as host of today's 95Podcast. Jon is joined by Les Hughes who is co-founder of Entrepastors along with Jon. Their conversation is a deep-dive into all things Entrepastors.They came together several years ago in order to provide a coaching track to help pastors fulfill their ministry calling while simultaneously providing a healthy living for their families. This conversation is so practical as Jon and Les share the benefits of becoming an Entrepastor.Show Notes: https://www.95network.org/guest-host-jon-sanders-a-conversation-with-entrepastors-w-les-hughes-episode-186/Support the show

Season 3 Episode 2 - Something Wicked Brewing Dave and Bret sat down with Jon Sanders (taproom manager) and Josh Kinard (head brewer) from Something Wicked Brewing in Hanover, PA. What a blast we had learning about how a group of Parrotheads that had the idea of starting a brewery and how they came up with the name. And they will be celebrating their 8th anniversary on June 8, 2023. We find out how Jon got involved and what got Josh into brewing. This should be a definite stop when in Hanover, because there's always something wicked going on! Jon and Josh brought along some great beers to try; a lager, kettle sour, IPA and their signature stout. Join us as we take you on our beer sampling through the local beers and let's all Be Bonded by Beer! Have a suggestion on a beer or brewery we need to highlight? Leave us a reply or email us at centralpapour@gmail.com Special Thanks to York's own, Gallowglas for our awesome new music: Scraps Check them out on Facebook and YouTube

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This show aired on Monday, April 17th, 2023 on 107.9 and 980 The WAAV in Wilmington, NC. Guests include Jon Sanders and Kathryn Bruner. Chicago Mayhem, Offshore Wind in Brunswick County, and more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

What does it look like for pastors to earn an income in addition to their ministry role? And how do you make the transition out of vocational ministry into the marketplace? In this episode, I'm joined by Jon Sanders and Les Hughes from EntrePastors, and they are passionate about helping pastors and other ministry leaders with their money mindset.   We talk about: Why we struggle to charge for intangible services and skills How money mindset can lead to burnout for pastors who pour out everything for others How ministry skills can be transferred to the marketplace, whether it's through a side gig or a post-ministry career Practical ways ministry leaders can earn extra income to support their family   We also talk about how congregations can best support and encourage their pastors in their money mindset, and why this is a win/win for pastors AND their churches. I hope this conversation gives you a fresh perspective on earning income beyond a ministry role!   About Jon and Les: Jon Sanders and Les Hughes are the co-founders of EntrePastors, and co-hosts of the EntrePastors podcast. Jon and Les have come together to empower pastors to maximize their God-given talents to take better care of their families and become better pastors in the process.   About EntrePastors: EntrePastors helps pastors think, act, and thrive as prosperous entrepreneurs. Through podcasts, a membership community, and mastermind groups, EntrePastors provides the tools and support community to help pastors and others with a ministry background achieve financial and time freedom and escape the stressful paycheck to paycheck life that often accompanies vocational ministry.   The goal of EntrePastors is to blow up the model of the starving pastor and build a community of prosperous pastors who can provide well for their families and demonstrate generosity to others.   CLICK HERE for their free resource on money mindset! Connect with EntrePastors in their Facebook community here.    Mentioned in this episode: Ep. 27 of the EntrePastor Podcast: The Loneliness of the EntrePastor Journey, with Teresa McCloy   Get to know the story behind the REALIFE Process® through our film, Rested Success! CLICK HERE to watch the 15-minute documentary film where you'll hear Teresa's story, how the REALIFE Process® began and developed, plus how our Certified Facilitators are using the Process in the work that they do.   CLICK HERE to learn more about becoming a REALIFE Process Certified Facilitator™! Ready to grow your impact and increase your income? Check out how to be certified as a REALIFE Process Facilitator™! Through coaching and training, you'll discover the power of the REALIFE Process® for yourself AND learn how to use it with your clients. Take the Needs & Values Assessment Ready to discover what uniquely matters to YOU? CLICK HERE to learn about our Signature Needs & Values Assessment, which includes a one-to-one review call with REALIFE Process® Coach Erica Vinson!   My new book, Do What Matters, is now available! My new book, Do What Matters, is available NOW! Banish busyness and discover a new way of being productive around what truly matters. Learn more at DoWhatMattersBook.com.   FREE Download: 4 Steps to Simplify Your Calendar Ready to uncover more time on your calendar? This FREE download will help you remove what doesn't matter, so you have space for what does. Click here to get this FREE resource!   Join the Community! (Plus Weekly Facebook Lives) Become part of the FREE REALIFE Process® Community! Connect with Teresa and other podcast listeners, plus find additional content to help you discover your best REALIFE. Join us every Wednesday at 11am CT for a Facebook Live to take a deeper dive with the REALIFE Process®!   Check out our YouTube Channel! Prefer to watch AND listen? Check out our YouTube channel for the podcast episode on video! Make sure to subscribe so you get all the latest updates. Connect with your host, Teresa McCloy, on: Facebook - The REALIFE Process® with Teresa McCloy Instagram - teresa.mccloy LinkedIn - teresamccloy   About Teresa McCloy: Teresa McCloy is the creator of the REALIFE Process® and an ACC Certified Leadership & Life Coach through the International Coaching Federation. She partners with her clients as a coach, consultant, and professional speaker to discover how to do what matters in their life and business. Teresa is the author of Do What Matters: Live from Rest, Not Rush, Using the REALIFE Process®.  

This show aired on Wednesday, March 22nd, 2023 on 107.9 and 980 The WAAV in Wilmington, NC. Guests include Josie Barnhart and Jon Sanders. GenX NCDEQ History, Ban on COVID Vaccine Mandates, and more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Stan sits down with EntrePastors co-host and 95Network Director of Coaching Jon Sanders to talk local church, ministry life, and much more! Show Notes and Links: entrepastors.com 95Network How To Hire Staff With No Budget jon@entrepastors.com Support the showBe sure to follow 6.14 Ministries: facebook.com/614rebuildInstagram: @614rebuildTwitter: @614rebuild Learn more at 614ministries.org

Jon Harvey from the Modern Conservative podcast joins me to talk about his decision to stand up and speak the truth, no matter the price. If you've ever heard or uttered the phrase "now we're cooking with gas," you'll appreciate its origins. Jon Sanders explains the "new study finds" approach to overregulation. Anyone who is willing to stand up for freedom has to be highly committed to stay at it. J.B. Shurk has a positive take on how to make being a 'joyful warrior' a personal calling. A couple of weeks ago, I shared an article by Robin Koerner about how the unvaccinated got it right. Now, Robin reports that Facebook is "fact-checking" his article and hiding it at every turn. Why would they do that? Sponsors: Monticello College Life Saving Food  Bereli TMCP Nation

Jon Harvey from the Modern Conservative podcast joins me to talk about his decision to stand up and speak the truth, no matter the price. If you've ever heard or uttered the phrase "now we're cooking with gas," you'll appreciate its origins. Jon Sanders explains the "new study finds" approach to overregulation. Anyone who is willing to stand up for freedom has to be highly committed to stay at it. J.B. Shurk has a positive take on how to make being a 'joyful warrior' a personal calling. A couple of weeks ago, I shared an article by Robin Koerner about how the unvaccinated got it right. Now, Robin reports that Facebook is "fact-checking" his article and hiding it at every turn. Why would they do that? Sponsors: Monticello College Life Saving Food Bereli TMCP Nation --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/loving-liberty/support

Thom Rainer published a blog article on November 28, 2022 entitled, "The New Very Large Church." One of the statements in the article said that churches with an average attendance of more that 250 is now considered to be a "very large church." He went on to highlight some of the implications of this "size-mic" shift in the church.Dale gathered some of the 95Network team to discuss their reaction to Thom's post. Jason Allison, Jon Sanders, Greg Moore and Brent Carter share their insights of the shifting paradigm of the local church. The small and midsize church continues to be the "backbone" of the church in America. We hope you will find encouragement as well as some wisdom of how to navigate these changing times through today's 95Podcast.Show Notes: https://www.95network.org/ithe-size-mic-shift-of-the-church-w-the-95network-team-episode-162/Support the show

Today's PODCAST RECAST originally aired on August 16, 2022. Episode 142 featured an insightful conversation with 95Network's Director of Coaching Jon Sanders discussing the impact of PTSD.Dale returns the favor today by giving Caralee the week off as he talks with Jon Sanders about some of the things he learned recently at a special training in Mississippi called Tactical-Resilience Protocol (TRP) and Emotions-Management Process (EMP) from 22Zero.org. Although the focus was specifically on the effects of PTSD in first responders and the military, Jon helps us see how most pastors are dealing with the same kinds of emotional issues.We dive into how trauma affects the nervous system requiring intentional focus to “put the trauma in its place.” Everyone has a basic fight, flight, freeze, or fake response to ongoing traumatic situations. The honest transparency shared by Jon and Dale makes this podcast one you'll want to share with anyone working through emotional discouragement. Show Notes: https://www.95network.org/podcast-recast-ptsd-and-the-ministry-w-jon-sanders-episode-162/Support the show

When people hear the word “pastor,” they often think of a middle-aged man with a beard. And when they hear the word “church,” they picture a building with stained glass windows and a steeple. But there is so much more to pastoral ministry and the church than just that. Redefining pastoral ministry, the church structure, and our beliefs about wealth and business sounds like a daunting task, doesn't it? But it's one that we need to tackle if we're ever going to see genuine change in the church.In this episode, Tim talks to Jon Sanders, the cofounder of EntrePastors. Jon has a vision of a healthier church structure that would allow pastors to thrive financially. He discusses our nebulous concepts of church, ministry, and wealth and how we could change the limiting narratives surrounding those to live a free and prosperous life.Find out how we can move toward a healthier church structure and lean into the freedom God gave us so that we may follow our calling truthfully. Don't miss this episode!3 Reasons to Listen:Learn about the flaws and limitations in the current church structure. Find out how to break free from these limiting structures and beliefs to become healthier Christian communities.Discover the power of leaning into your freedom and serving God through entrepreneurship.ResourcesVisit the Seek Go Create website for show notes, resources, and more!EntrePastorsLetters to the Church by Francis Chan Listen to more episodes and highlights on Seek Go Create or visit our YouTube for full-length episodes and short clips from each episode.About JonJon Sanders is a podcaster, speaker, and a coach. He is passionate about using his voice to motivate and inspire leaders in ministry and business through his platforms. He is the co-host of the EntrePastors Podcast, which serves pastors by helping them think, act, and thrive as prosperous entrepreneurs, and the Small Town Big Church Podcast.He also serves as the Director of Coaching for the 95Network, an organization that specializes in serving small to midsize churches. Besides his passion for ministry and church leaders, he also works as a full-time firefighter for Sioux Falls Fire Rescue.If you'd like to reach out to Jon, you can contact him on the EntrePastors website.Episode Highlights[02:58] Who Is Jon Sanders?Jon has been in pastoral ministry for his entire life.He is a full-time firefighter and an entrepreneur with several businesses.He is also a husband, father, and grandfather.[06:43] What EntrePastors DoesThe institutional church model is limiting and flawed.Entrepastors is a mashup of “entrepreneur” and “pastor.”It aims to get rid of the “starving pastor” narrative and urges them to enter the marketplace.Pastors can launch a business, thrive financially, and lead the church at the same time.[09:45] “The model...

Getting one's own affairs in order is the first responsibility of a Christian steward. This may seem self-interested or even selfish. But it's a bit like the airline safety announcement reminding passengers to secure their own air masks before assisting others. People with insufficient financial resources or those who mismanage their resources are unable to respond adequately to God's call to generosity.    Moreover, believing that God lovingly provides for our needs, we align ourselves with God's purposes when we exercise prudence in caring for our needs and those of our households. Yet many people at all income levels struggle with their finances due to a lack of basic financial management skills.   Jon Sanders is one of the co-founders of EntrePastors, a company helping pastors identify and use their God-given talents to develop additional streams of income and achieve financial freedom. 

Jon Sanders and Les Hughes know a hard, rarely shared truth about life in ministry: hundreds of pastors leave vocational ministry every month. Often these departures are unhealthy for the church as well as the pastor and his family. Frequently, financial scarcity and anxiety that comes with it are key factors in the departures. Out of this knowledge, a desire for more financial freedom and margin for their own families, as well as a passion to help others claim that freedom for themselves, Jon and Les founded EntrePastors.  In this episode, Jon and Les unpack some of the valuable insights they have compiled regarding ministry and entrepreneurship.  Listen in.Get Jon & Les' FREE Guide: Over 50 Business Ideas for PastorsCheck out EntrePastors,  Jon & Les' PodcastGet Our FREE Training On How To Find Profitable Amazon FBA ProductsFind me on Instagram @iamjustinbellQuestions, Feedback & Hello's: Email Me  at justin@faithplusbiz.com

Financial freedom and meaningful work can coexist! In this powerful conversation Jon Sanders and Les Hughes from EntrePastors share their insight on how to make this a reality.  They have a mission of helping those in ministry create amazing paths of earning potential to break the "starving pastor" stigma.  The same principles they teach pastors can be applied to all Believers and the wisdom they shared is truly incredible.For full show note details, go to the episode webpage: https://thelionwithin.us/podcast/105-entrepastor-insight-with-les-hughes-john-sanders/Check out these resources:10 Scriptures to Fight like a Lion Guide FREE Download. Get equipped with scripture that will help you fight the battle you are in.Featured Book of the Week Sharpen your mind with our Books of the Week so you can be the leader you are predestined to be.Join the Free Lion's Den Community Join our community and get positivity in your inbox with new opportunities, events, and resources!Support the show

Chuck and Roxy are back and open the show with what else...an apology, HOWEVER it comes with a special explanation as our hosts welcome back to the podcast Bob Walsh Twitter: @Adidiah for 5 mediocre minutes!  summeroflittles.com Next it's time to "Meet the Littles" as our hosts welcome to the podcast Jon Sanders!  Something Wicked Brewing Company -  Instagram: SWBREWINGCO Facebook: Something Wicked Brewing www.somethingwickedbrewing.com (12:00) Then our hosts close out the show with your emails and notes. (43:00) SONG: "I Vow" by Deon Powter TWITTER: @wokdreamer76 Youtube, Band Camp, Sound Cloud, Apple Music (Search Deon Powter) www.deonpowter.wixsite.com Podcast Website - www.loyallittlespod.com  Podcast Email - WTFCPODNET@GMAIL.COM Twitter:@loyallittlespod Instagram: @theloyallittlespodcast PODCAST LOGO DESIGN by Eric Londergan www.redbubble.com Search: ericlondergan --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/loyallittles/support

Sam Feeney is an author, strategist, coach, husband, and father of five. Today, Sam shares with us the paths he meandered as a young man, how everything changed when he met his wife, and what it meant to learn about God as Father. Also, he tells us why his family took a huge leap of faith and moved from Pennsylvania to Colorado. Sam is passionate about helping men grow in their faith and interactions with their families. Sam's story reminds us that God is one but also three persons and keeping that perspective changes everything. Listen to Sam's story on your favorite podcast app now! Stories Sam shared: Growing up in Pennsylvania in a Christian family Resisting faith because it might mean his dad was right Deciding that he would become a Christian despite of his relationship with his father Reconnecting with God on summers off during college How meeting his wife changed him How learning to be married challenged them Learning about the Holy Spirit and navigating the ditches Finding a church that had a good balance of faith in the Trinity Holding his son helped bring healing Why the idea of fatherhood is so valuable Moving to Colorado with his family and the faith it took Starting a business and his podcast, Made to Thrive How career affects men and their interactions with their family Great quotes from Sam: For a long time I resisted faith because it might mean my dad was right. If my dad loves me half as much as I love this kid, I've undersold him. If you put eternity in our hearts, we're looking for where he shows up as soon as possible. My biggest challenge as a dad is trying to prolong credibility with my kids as long as I can. Resources we mentioned: Sam's website Top Five Regrets of the Dying: A Life Transformed by the Dearly Departing by Bronnie Ware Forgotten God – Reversing Our Tragic Neglect of the Holy Spirit by Francis Chan Extraordinary: The Life You're Meant to Live by John Bevere How Long, O Lord?: Reflections on Suffering and Evil by D.A. Carson The Life of Trust: The Autobiography of George Müller: With An Introduction by George Müller Related episodes: Tim Winders and Redefining Success Les Hughes and Jon Sanders and the Rise of EntrePastors Kari Bartkus and the Friendship of Jesus The post Sam Feeney and Experiencing God as Father appeared first on Eric Nevins.

ENTREPASTORS Jon Sanders and Les Hughes pt 1 https://www.entrepastors.com/ ()If you've been listening to this program for any length of time, you know I have a heart for Christian entrepreneurs who are making a difference. A difference in the community and a difference in the Body of Christ. Many pastors are facing financial issues, especially in this era of trying to return from the COVID lockdowns, etc. Many of these ministers are contemplating actually leaving the ministry in order to find work that will provide for their families and their future as well. That is one of the main reasons I enjoy sharing information with you from entrepreneurs who have a heart for maintaining Christian morals and values and have that reflected in their business. Having said that, I believe you are going to truly be blessed by our guests today. Jon Sanders and Les Hughes are the co-founders of https://www.entrepastors.com/ (“EntrePastors,”) which helps pastors to think and thrive as prosperous entrepreneurs. Through their podcasts, a membership community and mastermind groups, https://www.entrepastors.com/ (EntrePastors) provides the tools and community of support to help pastors and minsters – and others with a ministry background, achieve financial freedom and free up their time and to escape the stressful “paycheck to paycheck” life that often accompanies vocational ministry. Jon and Less have come together to empower pastors to maximize their God-given talents and to take better care of their families and to become better pastors in the process. Let's jump back into the conclusion of this interview now, with Jon Sanders and Les Hughes, of https://www.entrepastors.com/ (Entre Pastors…) Do  you believe the era of “full time pastors” is coming to an end? Are things that bad out there? If someone has been in the ministry or pastorship for, let's say 10 or 15 years, do they have the skill sets that can be of some value in the marketplace right now? I know you advocate diversification of income streams. Can you share with us some of the benefits, not just of pastors, but in reality, almost everyone listening to us as well? Is it OK for a pastor to be independently wealthy and financially secure? I'm sure some pastors are thinking something like, “If I have this extra income coming in from this outside business, and we have some type of financial need come up in the ministry and I ask people to help, they'll feel like, “You got the money, you take care of it.”"  Is this an issue with some of your clients? What are some of the ways a pastor can launch their own business? I think they would have to be careful of the “network marketing” activities out there. It could be seen as some type of coercion or something. Am I correct? Let's say a pastor or ministry professional does start their own side business – and it becomes extremely successful.  Where can they go to share that win? If they start sharing their success with church members, I can see some parishioners come calling, asking for handouts and things like that. I know they would be generous with their finances – that's just part of our value system in the ministry. But how can they celebrate their victories without it causing additional hardships and problems within the church? Gentlemen, this has been so interesting. I love what you are doing to help full time, and part-time, ministry professionals add some additional income streams to support their families. If someone has a question or would like to find out more information about https://www.entrepastors.com/ (“EntrePastors”) and all that you do?  How can they do that? How can they get in touch with you? Folks, what you have just learned today can work for you, no matter your vocation. Yes, we have been talking about helping those in full time and part-time ministry. But if you stop and think about it, what Jon and Les have shared with us today could work for YOU, no matter your...

ENTREPASTORS Jon Sanders and Les Hughes pt 1 https://www.entrepastors.com/ ()If you've been listening to this program for any length of time, you know I have a heart for Christian entrepreneurs who are making a difference. A difference in the community and a difference in the Body of Christ. Many pastors are facing financial issues, especially in this era of trying to return from the COVID lockdowns, etc. Many of these ministers are contemplating actually leaving the ministry in order to find work that will provide for their families and their future as well. That is one of the main reasons I enjoy sharing information with you from entrepreneurs who have a heart for maintaining Christian morals and values and have that reflected in their business. Having said that, I believe you are going to truly be blessed by our guests today. Jon Sanders and Les Hughes are the co-founders of https://www.entrepastors.com/ (“EntrePastors,”) which helps pastors to think and thrive as prosperous entrepreneurs. Through their podcasts, a membership community and mastermind groups, EntrePastors provides the tools and community of support to help pastors and minsters – and others with a ministry background, achieve financial freedom and free up their time and to escape the stressful “paycheck to paycheck” life that often accompanies vocational ministry. Jon and Less have come together to empower pastors to maximize their God-given talents and to take better care of their families and to become better pastors in the process. Help me welcome to the program, Jon Sanders and Les Hughes!  Gentlemen, it is truly a pleasure to have you join us on the program today! First question I always start with is this – and you can answer it one at a time, you choose who goes first. But can you tell us, in your own words, “Who is “Jon Sanders” and who is “Les Hughes?” Jon, you're from S. Dakota – and Les your're from Alabama. How did you two get together and decide that https://www.entrepastors.com/ (“EntrePastors”) was something that you two could partner up with? How serious is this issue of pastors and ministers actually contemplating leaving their calling in order to survive, financially, and take care of their families? You both have pastoral backgrounds. Was this an issue that either one of you or both of you were facing at one time or another? Do  you believe the era of “full time pastors” is coming to an end? Are things that bad out there? If someone has been in the ministry or pastorship for, let's say 10 or 15 years, do they have the skill sets that can be of some value in the marketplace right now? Just think of the additional ministry opportunities “if only you had the extra income.” Not only would your family be better off – but you could do those extra ministry things that will bless the Body of Christ in ways that only the Lord knows about right now – but that you've always wanted to do. Amen! So, drop down below into the show notes right now and reach out to Jon and Less and click the link to check out https://www.entrepastors.com/ (“EntrePastors”) right now. CONTACT INFORMATION: Email:  Les@EntrePastors.com Email:  Jon@EntrePastors.com Website:  https://www.entrepastors.com/ (EntrePastors.com)

There seems to be a stigma with becoming a pastor. You're going to be poor and just have to deal with it since you're doing God's work. Well Jon Sander and Les Hughes of Entrepastors are here to tell you that is not the case! Both being pastors themselves, they found money to be an issue and decided to run their own small businesses to help pay the bills! This is against no commandment or law that God gives us and we think all pastors should adopt some sort of strategy to help themselves if they're not making ends meet. Listen in as to why pastors can be entrepreneurs too!

Jon Sanders and Les Hughes know a hard, rarely shared truth about life in ministry: that hundreds of pastors leave vocational ministry every month. Frequently, financial scarcity and anxiety that comes with it are key factors in the departures. Out of this knowledge, a desire for more financial freedom and margin for their own families, and a passion to help others claim that freedom for themselves, EntrePastors was born. EntrePastors helps pastors think, act, and thrive as prosperous entrepreneurs. Through podcasts, a membership community, and mastermind groups, EntrePastors provides the tools and support community to help pastors and others with a ministry background achieve financial and time freedom and escape the stressful paycheck to paycheck life that often accompanies vocational ministry. Find their info here: https://www.entrepastors.com/