GOLD DIGGER: The search for Australian rugby

2023 can probably get in the bin. Okay, it wasn't all bad. Some of us had a great trip to France and it's great if you follow 7s rugby, but otherwise, it's been tough. Joining Matt to have a quick review of the year and where to next for Australian rugby is Blake from the Rugby Report Card with a slice of umbrage but plenty of strong, honest views. We talk about the Eddie show, Hamish McLennan vs the Rebel Alliance but also look at the positives, our women's 7s, the opportunities for building rugby amongst the youth and who could be angling for the Wallaby head coach role. This episode will be the final in the current series of the Gold Digger podcast and will close with some announcements about the film and the opportunity of a new book that is perfect for some off season reading. Dig in!

It was an interview that was months in the making. Then he was sacked but still the opportunity was there. At the time of recording in early January 2023 he was a former Wallaby coach and at the time of publishing he is now the current Wallaby coach. Eddie Jones, a man who needs no introduction to Australian rugby fans.We dig into his origins at Matraville High playing with the Ellas, his coaching journey, the rise of Japan and how he changed their mindset, the evolving professional players and then cut to the core of the issues that need to be addressed in Australia and how important cohesion is. A frank chat with a battle hardened former school teacher and now journeyed coach that is all the more salient given he has been given the mantle of Wallaby coach for "one more job". Dig in!

Since when do we lose to Italy? Another historical Wallaby loss surely requires a response and with a little wine in hand, Matt decides to give it a go. Not much here except a good old fashioned cathartic whine about the bleeding obvious. We dwell on the Italian game, touch on some points around the business of rugby and also raise a glass to the Black Ferns victory and why that could matter for Australian rugby. Pour yourself a strong drink and dig in!

We made the call and many of you answered! A short but sharp Q and A session with writer/director Matt Durrant and Director of Photography Majdi Slaibi on the newly released feature documentary Gold Digger: The search for Australian Rugby. Some background on how the film came together, technical aspects of making it, more anecdotes from the production and the questions from the many and many listeners out there!If you're in Australia, you can now watch the film On Demand via Fox Docos which is available via Foxtel GO and Binge. More announcements on further releases around the world coming soon. Dig in! 

Finally, the documentary we've been waiting to share with Australian audiences will get a local release this Thursday the 15th September 2022 on the day of the Bledisloe Test Match in Melbourne. The film will be screened on Fox Docos via Foxtel and Binge.Director Matt Durrant and cinematographer and co-producer Majdi Slaibi from Thiqa Media share a few stories of how the film started almost 3 years ago and the journey of getting it from concept to broadcast. A battler story of two guys with an idea and plenty of enthusiasm who jumped in and navigated the Australian rugby sphere to chase the story despite the limits of being self funded, having a skeleton crew and managing to overcome the challenges of a pandemic that momentarily shut down production .A few anecdotes,  some favourite interview moments and a call out for listeners to tell us what they want to hear after the film is out. Dig in!

The Ella brothers are synonymous with Australian rugby and especially the era in which the Wallabies and the "running rugby" style took over the rugby world. Glen Ella, the twin of Mark and older brother of Gary, lived and played through it all from that Invincible Schoolboy Tour of 1977/78 to the dominant Galloping Greens of Randwick in the 80s and then the highest honour of  playing for the Wallabies with his brothers.We talk to Glen about his thoughts on the state of rugby now in Australia, dissect that recent series loss to England and touch upon his friendship with current head coach and former Matraville High alumni Eddie Jones. Can attacking styles be dominant again in world rugby despite ever imposing defences? Is rugby at a critical juncture in Australia where the style of the game isn't as attractive a brand as it used to be? And did rugby in Australia miss a trick by not engaging more Indigenous athletes who now populate the AFL and NRL? An honest and engaging conversation with a former Wallaby who remains just as committed to the game as the day he was first introduced to it with his brothers at high school. Dig in!

Eddie Jones talks about it, Scott Robertson swears by it and cohesion has certainly been a frequently mentioned topic across all sports lately, but GAINLINE Analytics is a company that has devoted itself to using cohesion to search for that elusive answer of what makes teams successful. With the success of our previous episodes "The C Word", we talk to the other half of GAINLINE Analytics founding partnership, Simon Strachan. Simon is also a former Wallabies performance video analyst and schoolboy rugby coach and now spends considerable time working with some of the world's leading sporting organisations on how they can use cohesion analytics to create solid governance structures that will influence on field performance.We talk about his rugby journey from the Barossa Valley to Philadelphia and then Melbourne, how a chance opportunity to film Wallabies training sessions took him to the inner sanctum of a British and Irish Lions series, review the recent Super Rugby Pacific teams and competitions from around the world and of course look at what this week's Wallabies v England match up could mean for both teams with a World Cup less than 20 games away! Dig in!

Not strictly an episode but an update on the latest exciting news that our documentary feature film Gold Digger: The search for Australian rugby is going to be released this coming week in South Africa on Saturday the 16th April 2022 on SABC2! The reason for the release in South Africa and not Australia is explained by Matt and rest assured the pending release in Australia and other countries later this year will be made shortly. More podcast episodes to come so stay tuned and keep on digging!

We've talked cohesion in the past and you just can't mention the word without mentioning the most cohesive professional rugby club in the world right now, Leinster Rugby. So who better than Leinster's current senior coach and former England head coach Stuart Lancaster to come on to the pod and talk to us about the success of the Leinster system, how Ireland is benefitting right now from it, his career pathway through the English RFU coaching system, the trials and tribulations of being England head coach, the 2015 Rugby World Cup campaign and of course, his perspective on Australian rugby right now.This is a fascinating episode full of honest insights and experiences from one of rugby's most knowledgable coaches that could well give Australian rugby fans, players, coaches and perhaps even the administrators plenty to think about! Dig it in!

We continue to dive down the cohesion mine but instead of a historical interview, this time we get to have another candid interview with Ben Darwin as he travels through London in March 2022! Ben and Matt sit down and discuss the many questions and queries posed by the findings in Part 1 as well as respond to the explanation video that was released this week on Youtube detailing the rise and decline of Australian Rugby Union.We go through what Australian rugby needs to grapple with to improve our systems and why just cutting Super Rugby teams won't solve the issues. We talk Leinster's near perfect system, back handed compliments from Eddie Jones, MLR, English Premier League  and even touch on the Socceroos and that "Golden Generation". Put on the kettle and this time slice off a big wedge of cake and sit back as we dig deep with The Thinking Man's Prop himself.

It's a word spoken about in sporting terms by players, coaches and pundits alike but never has "cohesion" been so articulated and detailed by none other than a former Wallaby in Ben Darwin. Along with his business partner, former Wallaby video analyst Simon Strachan, they have founded an Australian business called GAINLINE Analytics that consults to both sporting teams and the commercial business sector. Focusing on cohesion analytics and developing sophisticated and data driven metrics such as the Team Work Index (TWI) they seek to answer one of the most important questions in all of professional sport; what actually determines success?This is by far the deepest dig of all, grappling with the history of what made Australian rugby so successful and conversely, what has happened to turn the tide the other way. With case studies of other sports as well as an analysis of the changes in the northern hemisphere rugby nations, this episode seeks to get to the core of just what has happened to Australian rugby with some stunning revelations as well as guest cameos from past interviewees. Dig into an episode that is not to be missed!

Welcome back for 2022 and we're giving a nod to the pending Six Nations series by travelling north and interviewing rugby royalty in the form of Sir Clive Woodward, the former England and British and Irish Lions player and coach...and of course that little thing that happened in Sydney back in 2003. We tackle the politics of being England head coach, the difficulties of coaching the Lions and we dive into Clive's time when he was living in Manly in the 1980s and playing for the Marlins against powerhouses like Randwick and being told to "take it up"! Did this playing stint in Australia help inform his approach to winning the Rugby World Cup and what is his view on the current state of rugby union in Australia?Matt also brings us up to date on the pending release of the film and what we can expect in 2022. Dig in!

One of the magical stories of the recent Wallaby Spring tour, tighthead prop Ollie Hoskins was playing Dungeons and Dragons one minute and then the next, he was being summoned to the Wallaby training camp to debut against England at Twickenham 6 days later. Matt had the opportunity and privilege to sit down with Ollie in London and chat over a coffee about his journey from junior rugby in Perth, getting his first professional opportunity with the Western Force, learning the front row craft at London Irish and of course the inside story on that magical November call up where he became Wallaby #949!The first "in person" podcast interview of our series (complete with a bit of plane, car and cafe ambience) so buckle in to hear about a unique and unexpected journey from one of the many Australian rugby players plying their trade across the world. Dig in!

A historic new expansion that turned into one of Australian rugby's most bitter civil wars, the Western Force is a franchise that has ridden the rollercoaster of excitement and devastation. This is an episode that looks at how the team came into existence, how Australian rugby and Super Rugby evolved over that time, the inside story of the controversial axing of the team and how the Force managed to rise again from the ashes.With first hand interviews with former ARU Board director and WA rugby stalwart Geoff Stooke, former Rugby WA chairman Tony Howarth, former ARU CEO John O'Neill and a host of others including clips from the Senate Enquiry into the “Future of Rugby in Australia”, we piece together just what happened to the Western Force and why it still matters today. Get a big cup of coffee, sit back and dig into this gripping yarn.

It's been one of those weeks, hell months, if you're a Wallaby fan. Within hours of that devastating loss in Cardiff to Wales we pour a glass of whiskey, press record and let it all out. The Welsh loss, the TMO, the Spring Tour, the Giteau Law, 2021, everything. We ask how the Wallabies have performed, where do we want to see them go from here and what questions the administration has to start answering.To help us out we talk with our very own rugby agony aunt Mitch "Rev" Evans from the Rugby Fixation podcast. We try to make sense of whether Dave Rennie is settling on his best Wallaby selections and whether we can still be on track for a run at the William Webb Ellis Cup in 2023. Matt gives it a yay or nay on borderline Wallaby squad members futures and Rev tells us his 2021 World XV.Lie down on the couch, deep breathes, clear your mind and let's dig it all out! 

Dividing her time between training in the Wallaroos squad, being a STAN Sports pundit, ABC Sports podcaster and public speaker, Sera Naiqama is one of the busier rugby personalities going around. She drops in for a quick chat to dissect Australian rugby as we experience that post domestic season lull before the Spring Tour/Autumn Internationals commence! We discuss the difficulties the Wallaroos are facing having played no games in 2 years and being a year out from the World Cup in New Zealand and why a decision has to be made soon on investing in the future of Australian women's rugby. We also hear about Sera's journey from 7s player to Waratah and then being in the Wallaroos setup, the leap from online vlogger to prime time sports pundit, the perfectly worded "Can you be more Pacific" sports podcast, acoustic versions of Nelly's "Ride wit me" and a Golden Gun teacup (just listen, it'll make sense). Dig in!

The Wallabies and Springboks continue to have a decorated rivalry with the men in gold taking the latest chocolates over the reigning World Champions. But when it comes to peaks and troughs, both Australia and South Africa have many parallels in terms of controversy, challenges and dire patches in performance. To unpack this we speak with Thala Msutu from the South African rugby website and soon-to-be podcast “Rugby Bits” and cover the recent games between the Wallabies and Boks in Queensland, the current status of rugby union in South Africa and the social and political complexities the sport faces, the “ex-girlfriend” that is Super Rugby and what comparisons can be drawn between the two countries when it comes to dealing with the “player drain” and the pressures placed on the national team to succeed. It's a SANZAR discussion minus the NZ. Dig in!

Imagine having Toutai Kefu teach you the ins and outs of back row play, or having Elton Flatley give you a personal kicking course, or perhaps a one on one exclusive from George Smith on how to jackal at a ruck? Welcome to Wallaby school and two different academies that are designed to pass knowledge from some of Australia's best and most experienced players to the emerging youth coming through.Firstly we speak with All Black legend Murray Mexted about how he set up IRANZ (International Rugby Academy of New Zealand) and then the Australian equivalent IRAA in late 2019. Murray also gives great insight into the Australian style of rugby over the last four decades and what could be done to help turn the game around.Then we hear from former Queensland Red Brad Free and Scott Oakhill who run the C2K Academy in Queensland and are able to summon a  who's who of Australia's best and brightest to give hands on tutelage to some of the state's most promising rugby players. Two very exciting and important endeavours that could give that important edge Australian rugby needs to create world class players and retain some of that all important rugby IQ. Dig in!

From rugby battlers to reigning Shute Shield Premiers, the Gordon Highlanders have a long history of achievement but a recent one of survival and reinvention. We talk to club stalwart and Gordon rugby life member Peter Sherwood about how the club went from being on the brink of insolvency and struggling for numbers to now being one of Sydney club rugbys power houses.Along the way we get a history lesson, discuss the current controversy around the SRUs plans to impose new conditions that might impact Western Sydney clubs, the latest news on former Gordon head coach Darren Coleman's offer to coach the Waratahs and just what direction NSW rugby and perhaps even Australia broadly should be going in order to keep up with the changing sporting climate. Plenty of lessons to learn from the Gordon experience. Dig in!

The “grassroots”, the beating heart and soul of our game where rugby is often discovered, life long friendships formed and even future Wallabies are discovered. Well in Western Sydney the grassroots are being dried out and left to be paved over with countless other sports. Right in the middle of this is Penrith and the many historic clubs and rugby union diehards who are powerless to the pain impacted upon their existence due to rugby's waning popularity in the area.We talk to Adam Fletcher, a local teacher who set up Penrith RSL Junior Rugby Club and has lived the struggle for many years trying to help grow the game in a region now overrun by rugby league, AFL and soccer. We discuss the hurdles around trying to set up a local rugby club, the importance of development officers, why Western Sydney needs a tailored approach to connect to the many different communities there and what lessons can be learned for NSWRU and Rugby Australia before it's too late. Dig in now!

It's the biggest rugby market in Australia, with the most clubs and players yet it's currently the lowest ranked rugby franchise in Super Rugby AU. Just what has happened to the Waratahs and NSW rugby since the giddy height of that Super Rugby championship of 2014?We talk to former cop and Manly, Waratah and Wallaby die-hard Carrick Ryan about the blooding of the 2021 Waratahs, the lost identity of NSW rugby, the struggle to make the Shute Shield that next level competition and what changes could be made to turn around the fortunes of rugby's biggest state. Are there silver linings and what hope is there for the future, not just for the Waratahs but also the emerging Wallabies. Dig in!

The Brumbies and the Reds, two powerhouses of Australian rugby both historically and right now in the wake of the 2021 Super Rugby AU final. But why is that so? What made these two teams so dominant back in the 1990s and what was that correlation with the Wallaby success of the Golden Era?We speak for the first time with foundation Brumby and former Wallaby Rod Kafer about how the ACT became a hotbed for excellence that made the Brumbies instantly successful. We also hear from their first coach Rod Macqueen and Queensland icons and Wallabies John Eales and Michael Lynagh about what made Queensland so different. Dig in.

It's grand final week of Super Rugby AU, and a special podcast episode sees a four way dance between Ando from Pick and Drive Rugby, Mitch from Rugby Fixation, Nelson from Draft Rugby and yours truly. An Australian rugby podcast "Royal Rumble" where we review the season so far, examine the semi-final in Canberra and make our predictions for the slobber knocker of a grand final in Brisbane this week between the in form Reds and the reigning champions, the Brumbies.We also talk about the changing of the guard in Australian rugby in 2021, STAN's broadcasting performance, player of the season thus far and memorable moments of the season. Plus a little Wallabies chatter. Matt flies the flag for the Force, Mitch dives into the analysis behind the games, Nelson picks apart the individual performers across all the teams and Ando is the McCardle of the group (blazer included) bringing it all together and ensuring we stay on point. Dig in for a cracking episode!

Samoan international test rugby player, welfare advocate and now filmmaker Dan Leo never took any prisoners on the field and isn't afraid to hold back when it comes to speaking out. His debut film "Oceans Apart: Greed, Betrayal and Pacific Island Rugby" shone a light in 2020 on the darker side of rugby and pitted Dan directly at odds with some of the game's more influential bodies. He joins the pod to talk about the film, the impact it has had and the ongoing role he plays as the director of the Pacific Rugby Players Welfare group. We especially touch on the recent announcement of the Fijian Drua and Moana Pasifika teams joining the 2022 Super Rugby season and the balance of excitement and caution that surrounds this watershed development.We also hear about how he once played for Queensland, his club Sunnybank, that mighty Samoan victory of 2011 against the Wallabies on a Saturday afternoon in Sydney and get his honest opinion on why Australian rugby is struggling to connect with its base. It's an episode full of rugby and filmmaking and couldn't be a more perfect fit for this podcast. Put the kettle on, sit back and dig it in!

It's the age old question in Australian football, rugby union or rugby league? To help us navigate this we are joined by actor and raconteur Ben Wood whose voice will also be known to Sydney listeners as the Waratahs and Wallabies match day ground announcer. These days he's also one half of the popular podcast series Woody and Slugs Do League, about rugby league and punting.We dig into Woody's cross code knowledge as he talks about growing up in Sydney as a "leaguie" before discovering union at school and how he traverses life as a Roosters and Waratahs tragic. We touch on the differences, the similarities, the overlap and what union can learn from league. We can't avoid not talking about the controversial sacking of Rob Penney as head coach of the Waratahs and dive into a couple of anecdotes about an unnamed Wallaby's observations about the current standards at the Waratahs and the time Brad Fittler once dazzled a Springbok.Dig in for all this and more!

One of Australian rugby's best journalists going around, Geoff Parkes is a weekly contributor for the The Roar sports website and author of "A World in Conflict: The Global Battle for Rugby Supremacy", in which he details the complicated and at times controversial business of rugby union. We dig into Geoff's deep knowledge of the game, both on and off the field, discussing the key financial and structural hurdles that Australia has to leap over in order to keep up with the rest of the world, the player drain, the critical nature of broadcast deals, private equity moving into rugby markets and how he became an expert writer at the Rugby Roar website.A meaty chat that digs into some of the more critical issues that affect the ever evolving climate of rugby in Australia.

Rugby union is a game for all and in Australia the rise of the women's game stands out as one of the few positive narratives in recent years. We talk to Wallaroos captain Grace Hamilton about how women's rugby is on the rise and the current challenges faced by the Wallaroos to deal with the pandemic related pause to international rugby with the New Zealand world cup now postponed till 2022.Along the way, Grace talks about how she got into the sport, her comeback after not making a 63 playing squad in 2016 and we examine the pathways to the top for women in Australian rugby and just why the professionalisation of the 15 a side game for women represents a rare opportunity for Australia to once again become a world leader.

Just what exactly motivates our schoolboys, colts and junior players who are the future of our professional game? Is it for fun, trophies or just all about getting that all important professional contract? We have an exclusive chat with Jonny McMurtry, a lifelong rugby devotee in Queensland who now does research to ask these questions of our youth and has just completed a study of participants from Super Rugby academies.We examine the implications around his findings and look at the broader challenges the code faces in preparing our juniors for higher honours. Is the winning at all costs attitude in schools hurting player development and enjoyment? Are juniors too prescribed and losing their ability to be creative at senior level?  

He's one of the godfathers of Australian rugby podcasts, a fountain of knowledge on all things rugby and a rabid Queensland Reds supporter, the one and only Rugby Reg. We chat with Reg about the current prognosis of Australian rugby in 2021; the upcoming first round of the Super Rugby AU season, the “reset” of 2020, the watershed STAN Sports broadcast deal, the Wallabies prospects, the Wallaroos and the Women's Rugby World Cup later this year and the evolving landscape in rugby content and why it matters to fans.We also dig into his history of Queensland Rugby, how player pathways and attitudes have evolved and ask the all important question as to whether the GAGR podcast team will ever get back together again! Dig in.

Do we have enough talent in Australian rugby? It's a question we ask an ensemble of former Wallabies, such as Adam Freier and Ben Alexander, as well as John Eales, Michael Lynagh and a host of others.We examine our player pathways and how they have evolved, looking at whether our rugby participation is broad enough to create a talent pool to choose from.  Do we have enough development at the bottom of the base and what can we do about the talent drain overseas? This episode is more like a rugby forum with so many opinions and perspectives so have a listen and then hit us up on the Facebook page with your own thoughts! Dig it in, people, 

Does rugby need to change? It's a question we ask of Wallaby #518 Barry Honan who has played at the highest level and devoted his entire life to skills coaching and analysing the modern game of rugby. The creator of the “Honan Drills” that introduced the rugby basics to several generations of Australian players, we talk about the missed opportunities to utilise our intellectual property, the statistics that underpin how the game is becoming less of a spectacle and an exclusive insight into the new National Technical Advisory Committee that has formed to advise Rugby Australia.Full of insight as well as a couple of on field anecdotes along the way. Dig in for a good listen.

It's all just a little bit of history re-repeating, or is it? Classic Wallaby statistician and all around oracle Matthew Alvarez joins us for an exclusive interview about how he collects statistics, data and fascinating stories about every Wallaby game and player since the game began. We look at the exhaustive investigative style of research that goes into compiling this information and along the way examine the 1920s Waratahs/Wallabies, the link between Queensland's rise and the Wallaby success of the late 20th century and how important it is for the younger generation to know about the triumphs and legacy of the past.Is there something to learn from history that could help Australian rugby turn itself around? This time we're digging with a professional.

Someone call Doc Brown, because we're going back in time to a point when the Wallabies ruled the world, and we're hearing it from the troika of legendary captain John Eales, the highly successful coach Rod Macqueen and the man in charge of the code for over a decade, former Australian Rugby Union CEO John O'Neill.So strap yourself in and take a walk down memory lane as we hear about how the Wallabies dealt with some record losses and a slump in form to beat the All Blacks 3-0 in 1998 and then forge a path to glory at the Rugby World Cup in 1999.

First pod for 2021, and it's about us, the fans. Just how hard is it to be a Wallaby supporter at the moment in Australian rugby? Matt shares the email he sent to Rugby Australia that kicked off this whole quest and then we speak to Wallaby fan and Facebook ranter Jack Quigley about "That Post" and "That Call" he got from Michael Cheika. We also sit down with Matt Rowley, the CEO of Green and Gold Rugby who talks about the Australian rugby website's origins and shares his views on the Australian rugby fan experience.We examine what "grassroots" means (with special comments from a surprise interviewee!) and talk about just what has happened to the "Lost fans of Australian rugby" and more importantly what can be done to get them back. Get digging.

Merry Christmas and here's some gold, frankincense and myrrh in the form of interviews with three former Wallabies; Michael Lynagh, Peter Fitzsimons and John Eales. They describe how they started playing the game and how they made the Wallabies. In addition, Michael covers the 1984 Grand Slam and the significance of Australia winning the World Cup in 1991, Peter looks at the changes that professionalism brought in to the game and John details just how important it is to get the balance right between captain, coach and CEO.We also briefly touch on the recent appointment of Rugby Australian CEO Andy Marinos and the announcement of the new Rainbow Cup involving the South African provincial and Pro 12 teams. Deck the halls and dig in!

A special episode interview with Michael Lipman, the former England International, Australian Schoolboy and Melbourne Rebel. Michael talks about the current pending legal class action against World Rugby regarding player concussion that he and former internationals Alix Popham and Steve Thompson are part of. He also shares his experiences of coming to terms with his diagnosis of early onset dementia. In addition, he also talks about playing schoolboy rugby in Sydney, a hilarious misunderstanding after 9/11, the fanatical English rugby crowds, rivalries with George Smith, playing against the Wallabies, staring down the haka, being in the inaugural Melbourne Rebels squad and life after rugby.

Matt has a new co-host Majdi Slaibi, the director of photography and co-producer of the Gold Digger film. Matt and Maj talk about how they started making the film, Maj's lack of knowledge about rugby union and why that's important and Matt's inability to deliver a punchline about when the boys first met Gordon Bray. There is rugby talk too, and Matt goes over the recent letter by Rugby Australia CEO Rob Clarke that was issued to the "Australian Rugby Community". 

Hot off the press, we're talking about the new Rugby World Cup 2023 draw and hearing from Gordon Bray, the “voice of Australian rugby”. Gordon talks about how he almost sold coffee in Papua New Guinea instead of sports broadcasting and his favourite Wallaby moments. Matt talks about the importance of “that tackle” and the debate begins: is this a True Crime or Sports podcast?

Does the world need yet another podcast? Well filmmaker and rugby tragic Matt Durrant thinks so and argues his case in this first episode of a series based on the feature length documentary he's made called Gold Digger: The search for Australian rugby, about the rise and fall of Australian rugby union.Matt gives a brief background on why he decided to make this documentary, teases with a quick snippet of some of the people he's interviewed (guess the voices!) and why it's important that the Australian rugby community keep driving the conversation forward to keep the game relevant.