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What does it really take to make flexible work succeed - at scale and over time? In this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, host David Green sits down with Annie Dean, Vice President of Workplace and Future of Work Transformation at Atlassian, to explore how one of the world's leading tech firms is boldly reimagining work for the long term. Sharing insights from Atlassian's five-year journey as a fully distributed company, Annie unpacks how her team is using behavioural science, asynchronous collaboration, and AI to design a more human-centric and productive way of working. Join them as they discuss: The biggest lessons Atlassian has learned from five years of distributed work Why they built an internal behavioural science function, and how it drives their work design How asynchronous collaboration is redefining productivity and employee well-being How AI power users are saving up to 7 hours a week - and how Atlassian is enabling that shift Proven strategies to integrate AI into distributed team workflows Guidance for HR and people analytics leaders defending flexibility with data A sneak peek into upcoming research from Atlassian's Teamwork Lab Whether you're refining your flexible work strategy or looking to future-proof your organisation's operating model, this episode, sponsored by Worklytics, is packed with practical ideas and forward-thinking insights. Worklytics helps leaders understand how work actually happens with data-driven insights into collaboration, productivity, and AI adoption. By analysing real work patterns - from meetings to tool usage - they empower teams to work smarter, not harder. And here's something special: Worklytics is offering Digital HR Leaders listeners a complimentary AI adoption assessment to understand how your teams are really using AI - and where untapped potential lies. But don't wait - spots are limited. Learn more at worklytics.co/ai Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
This episode was originally released on 1/22/2024. Annie Dean, VP of Team Anywhere at Atlassian, joined us on The Modern People Leader. She shared Atlassian's learnings after 1,000 days of distributed work: their calendar redesign experiment, the impact of in-person gatherings on team connection levels, and the ROI of real estate at Atlassian.
Annie Dean is Vice President and Global Head of Team Anywhere at Atlassian. She oversees their Real Estate and Workplace Experience teams and Team Anywhere Lab—dedicated behavioral scientists focused on designing and validating evidence-based ways of working. Annie is responsible for Atlassian's shift to a distributed first company. She highlights core elements of their ongoing research-driven, vetted transition supported by strong cultural values. Annie shares Atlassian's new culture of work practices including rationalizing meetings, pursuing core work, hospitality-focused office operations, and redesigning teams, all facilitated by asynchronous methods and AI. TAKEAWAYS [02:43] Annie attributes her diverse interests to her liberal arts family upbringing. [03:30] Annie is interested in what society values, how it expresses itself, and how people change it. [04:00] At law school, Annie realizes she doesn't want to be a lawyer while appreciating the educational benefits. [05:05] A busy lawyer and new mother, Annie's set up is not working for her. [06:40] Does the system need to change or Annie? She decides it is the system. [07:15] A seminal article questions assumptions about women not reaching leadership positions. [08:01] Co-founding Werk, Annie helps companies assess non-traditional work opportunities. [08:32] Pre-pandemic there is significant demand for flexible working. [10:26] Annie finds strong interest in disrupting norms to resolve known work-related issues. [11:05] Data is crucial to try and convince CEOs to align with and adopt new ways of working. [12:39] From 2016 to 2020, office culture peaks, with limited progress on workplace flexibility. [13:25] Research identifies common pain points including commuting, care-giving, and wellness. [14:20] Access to flexibility can address widespread pain felt by ambitious high-performers. [15:32] Pre-pandemic, technology disrupts consumer not working behaviors—resulting in insufficient will to change work practices. [16:16] Annie cowrites an article positing that a pandemic would force adoption of remote work. [20:05] The ease of transitioning to remote work during the pandemic proves the potential of existing technologies. [20:35] Employees are not surprised they could work well remotely—it's a more human way to work. [21:10] Atlassian's shift to distributed-first aligns with its business and the co-founders' long-term expectations about work. [22:04] The modern culture of work at Atlassian focuses on reducing meetings, prioritizing core work, facilitated by asynchronous methods and AI-driven norms. [24:07] Atlassian's values are the backbone of how the company runs and inform how people treat each other. [25:50] Sharing research and vetted practices, Atlassian helps others update their culture of work. [27:22] Key shifts include new ways to connect, operate offices, design teams, and organize work. [28:35] Atlassian emphasizes intentional togetherness and a hospitality approach to office use. [29:00] Designing teams by time zones and capturing organic changes in daily work habits. [30:28] Modern culture of work practices emphasize effective meetings and prioritize core work. [30:50] Asynchronous methods and AI tools enable meeting rationalization and effective working. [32:04] IMMEDIATE ACTION TIP: Create conversations that prompt experimentation new ways of working are addictive. They feel good. People will adopt quickly because once they try, they get it. [33:54] Clear and effective business writing is vital in a distributed work environment. [35:35] The transition to tech-driven, distributed work is inevitable. [36:35] Resistance to using steel in construction mirrors current resistance to work changes. [38:22] Annie notices a technology gap for taking full advantage of modern work opportunities which easy-to-use AI can now fill. [39:40] Annie is optimistic about technology enabling more efficient and flexible working. RESOURCES Annie Dean on LinkedIn Atlassian's website Lessons Learned: 1000 days of distributed at Atlassian Smart Brevity by Jim VandeHei, Mike Allen, and Roy Schwarz QUOTES "Data is the only thing that will convince a CEO that a change needs to happen." “From 2012 to 2020, it was clear that technology was disrupting all our consumer behavior, and yet it wasn't disrupting our working behaviors. It was very clear to me that this different future was possible. It just didn't seem like there was enough will in the executive teams that I was working with to really make the holistic change.” "Because the pandemic was so overwhelming and distracting in many ways, these strategic questions of what a new culture of work should look like were left behind. We are now in 2024 and able to start answering those questions.” “We've adapted a really unique set of practices that helps us manage across time zones and manage in a distributed environment. It's those practices and our products that really carry us forward as a distributed company.” "The office is not required to get work done though they will continue to be great community spaces to work from." "We realize that the modern culture of work is that we replace most meetings, we know what work really matters, and we organize ourselves to pursue core work, not work about work, and each of those things is facilitated by asynchronous behaviors and AI driven norms." "Using new practices, I think we unlock the power of technology and the Internet and AI to build a new culture of work." "Once people try these new ways of working, they adopt them very quickly because they are addictive in that they feel really good."
Reminder! Enter for a Gold Pass to the CS Festival in Austin:Leave a review the podcast and send a quick screenshot to alex@digitalcustomersuccess.comGo to this LinkedIn post and Like it: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7152780848642068480Leave a comment on that same post. Easy!Today's Guest Annie Dean of RecastSuccess is a TRUE CS veteran and is one of those rare individuals who was around when the term 'Customer Success' was coined! What does that mean for us? Lots of insight and knowledge to learn from. In this fascinating conversation, Annie draws from her deep career at legendary companies like LinkedIn, Cisco & Coursera - as well as her current experience with RecastSuccess - to give us a ton of great nuggets of knowledge.It was also a pleasure having her on as RecastSuccess does so much to drive equity and diversity within CS - which is definitely worth highlighting. In this fantastic conversation, we cover a lot of ground including:How to prioritize where to start digitallyHow tooling has helped us to normalize digital CS The genesis of RecastSuccess and its mission to help foster diversity in CS The role profiles of Digital CS and how product management, marketing, sales ops and data science fit in well with DCS - not necessarily CSM.How RecastSuccess partners with VCs & Startups to help grow CS orgs with well trained team membersEarly stage startups have an advantage because you can start with automations and have them in place from the beginningHow to be proactive with end-users (those that aren't reaching out) to help drive outcomes for those executivesAverage professional in the US uses 80 apps regularly - which is why it is imperative to be proactive with users Semi-live webinars are a great way to scaleNew AI tools are there to augment and improve what you're doing - not replace what you're doing.Racial & Gender diversity in tech and RecastSuccess' mission for building CS teams that are as diverse as possibleThe ever-present topic of whether to QBR or whether to not QBRAnnie's Industry Newsletter ListSupport the show+++++++++++++++++Listener Submissions:If you'd like to call in with commentary or a question to be addressed in a future episode, call our submission line at +1 (512) 222-7381. Leave us a 2-3 minute message with your comment or question using either your real name or a pseudonym, and we'll feature your clip on the show!Like/Subscribe/Review:If you are getting value from the show, please follow/subscribe so that you don't miss an episode and consider leaving us a review. Website:For more information about the show or to get in touch, visit DigitalCustomerSuccess.com. Buy Alex a Cup of Coffee:This show runs exclusively on caffeine - and lots of it. If you like what we're, consider supporting our habit by buying us a cup of coffee: https://bmc.link/dcspThank you for all of your support!The Digital Customer Success Podcast is hosted by Alex Turkovic
Annie Dean, VP of Team Anywhere at Atlassian, joined us on The Modern People Leader. She shared Atlassian's learnings after 1,000 days of distributed work: their calendar redesign experiment, the impact of in-person gatherings on team connection levels, and the ROI of real estate at Atlassian. ---- This episode was brought to you by Pyn. Get access to their Employee Journey Designer here. ---- (4:03) Good news stories (9:17) Annie's journey from practicing law to becoming a leader in workplace innovation. (14:22) Transition to Atlassian and the philosophy of 'Team Anywhere'. (20:59) Discussion about Atlassian's core values and its unique Australian influence. (24:53) Launching the '1000 days of distributed Atlassian' report and its insights. (27:06) The significance of data-driven decision-making in a distributed work environment. (31:15) The importance of setting priorities and how it shapes Atlassian's work culture. (37:09) Exploration of time zone impacts on team effectiveness. (39:18) Addressing challenges in distributed work environments and measuring team connection. (43:33) The role of real estate and office space in Atlassian's distributed model. (47:25) Annie's thoughts on building a strong company culture in a distributed setup. (52:00) Closing thoughts and takeaways from the discussion. ---- Subscribe to our weekly newsletter to get key learnings & career advice from Modern People Leaders Follow The Modern People Leader on LinkedIn Follow Daniel Huerta on LinkedIn Follow Stephen Huerta on LinkedIn
In this WorkWell podcast by Deloitte, Jen Fisher, editor-at-large for Thrive and Deloitte's Human Sustainability Hub, sits down with Annie Dean, the global head of Team Anywhere at Atlassian and an expert on remote and flexible work. In a wide-ranging conversation, Jen and Annie go beyond surface-level questions of whether or not to return to the office and discuss how true flexibility at work leads to greater productivity and more meaningful connections.
In this WorkWell podcast by Deloitte, Jen Fisher, editor-at-large for Thrive and Deloitte's Human Sustainability Hub, sits down with Annie Dean, the global head of Team Anywhere at Atlassian and an expert on remote and flexible work. In a wide-ranging conversation, Jen and Annie go beyond surface-level questions of whether or not to return to the office and discuss how true flexibility at work leads to greater productivity and more meaningful connections.
In this episode of the Wise Decision Maker Show, Dr. Gleb Tsipursky speaks to Annie Dean, VP of Team Anywhere at Atlassian, about implementing a successful distributed work model.You can learn about Atlassian at https://www.atlassian.com/
Annie Dean is 25 years old. She was homeschooled until her senior year in high school. She graduated from Kings High School in 2016 and graduated college in 2020 with a Degree in Special Education. Annie graduated on May 13, 2023 with her Masters's Degree in Educational Studies. Her Masters Thesis Integrative Project focused on Homeschool vs. Public/Private School. Annie is currently working at a Career Tech High School where she teaches 20 Special Education students and supports them in their Career Tech labs (Web Apps, Construction, HVAC). Despite working in public school, Annie is very passionate about homeschooling and parental rights in education. Her parents founded Great Homeschool Conventions. Whenever she is available, she travels with Great Homeschool Conventions to give an extra hand to her parents. Annie is a huge believer that every child has different educational needs and with the right support/resources they can achieve academic success. Thank you for listening to the A+ Parents podcast. If you love the show, don't forget to subscribe, share and leave us a review. Also, follow us online at www.aplusparents.com www.mrdmath.com or on our social channels @MrDMathlive @aplusparentspodcast Also, host Dennis DiNoia has a new book out NOW called “Teach: Becoming Independently Responsible Learners. Order your copy: https://aplusparents.com/teach OR on Amazon https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09X2B3MG8/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_api_i_DDH16A3BD5X79CSFSQXB To learn more about Mr.D Math Live Homeschool classes, visit: https://mrdmath.edu20.org/visitor_class_catalog?affiliate=10252228
#165 — Parenting is a 24/7 job, but we've found most employers treat it more like an extracurricular activity. For the first episode of our best-of series, we're revisiting our podcast's very first interview (#002). This conversation about flexibility in the workplace, though, takes on new meaning right now. As we continue to blend work and motherhood amid this pandemic, the reality that today's workplace fails women and families on a regular basis grows ever more glaring. In this episode, we hear from Annie Dean, then-co-CEO of Werk, a people-analytics platform on a mission to update company policies to reflect modern realities. She walks us through her realization that the 16-hour workdays and overnight travel she'd been so used to putting in pre-pregnancy were simply incompatible with her new role as a mother. In short, she faced a forced choice between career and care. She saw how ambitious, high-performing women like herself were opting out of leadership pipelines — and out of the workforce, altogether — and it didn't make sense. By introducing low-cost, high-impact options for flexibility in the workplace, employers could hold onto this talent, all while increasing productivity, retention, and engagement across the entire team. For too long, the idea of flexibility has been poorly defined and deemed a burden. The objectives of the employer and the needs of the employee don't have to be at odds, though. Annie predicts that companies eager to treat flexibility as a key strategic component will win the war on talent because they're dealing in a new currency their competitors are too afraid to embrace. This episode is brought to you by Nanit, the only baby monitor you need. For full show notes, go to startupparent.com/165. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/startuppregnant/message
The sudden mass conversion to remote work has created challenges, even for those who are accustomed to working in a remote environment. Nobody has figured it all out, but, as is human nature, we are learning and adapting. On this episode Jen Fisher discusses remote work strategies to cope and build resilience with Annie Dean.
The sudden mass conversion to remote work has created challenges, even for those who are accustomed to working in a remote environment. Nobody has figured it all out, but, as is human nature, we are learning and adapting. On this episode, Deloitte chief well-being officer Jen Fisher discusses remote work strategies to cope and build resilience with Annie Dean of Deloitte Consulting’s workforce transformation group.
Werk Enterprises uses surveys and data analytics to help organize work through a set of predefined, flexible arrangements, rather than the traditional 9-to-5 in the office. This HR version of mass customization can recalibrate the relationship between employers and employees to better match the needs of both. HBS alumna Anna Auerbach and her cofounder, Annie Dean, were initially motivated by the challenges facing professional women, whose careers have often suffered due to the conflicting demands of work and life. Werk touts hard numbers – in employee retention, net promoter scores, and productivity -- to make the business case for carefully tailored flexibility across the board, in contrast to the chaotic approach blamed for recent high profile pullbacks.
Colleen and Sonia debrief after Daring Women Seattle, an event hosted by Seattle Business magazine featuring local women leaders. The duo then visits Lights, Camera, IGNITE!, a gala to support programming that introduces girls in grades 6-12 to technology and engineering careers. Sonia interviews Werk Co-founder and Co-CEO Annie Dean about work flexibility. Our hosts then discuss Backstage Capital’s recent announcement of a $36M fund to invest in black female founders. Please subscribe, rate, and share the episode. Find us online at www.wibt.com. Send any and all feedback to wibt@microsoft.com or tweet @MicrosoftWomen.
One of my girlfriends recently recalled her time of being pregnant with twins, relating that she had to go to OB appointments on her lunch break so she didn’t tap into her paid time off. On the flip side, another friend just accepted a job that pays her to travel the world and write all about it. We lead different lives and may be at very different stages, but no matter your industry, one thing’s for sure: Women certainly wouldn’t turn down a little increased flexibility in our careers. Here’s to attaining that elusive work/life balance! The post Anna Auerbach and Annie Dean: Get Tips Here for Work Flexibility appeared first on On The Dot Woman.
Have you ever had a random phone call that changed your life? After multiple reschedules, Annie and Anna were finally introduced to each other as new moms at the time. With the mutual sudden realization that their jobs were no longer compatible with their lives, they quit their jobs and dedicated their lives to breaking down the structural barriers that continue holding millions of talented women back. Join in on the conversation where Annie and Anna share why 30% of talented women are dropping out of the workforce but 70% of that group say they would still be working if they had flexibility. This is a great conversation of redefining “work” as “werk, w-e-r-k” - Let's dive in!
Have you ever had a random phone call that changed your life? After multiple reschedules, Annie and Anna were finally introduced to each other as new moms at the time. With the mutual sudden realization that their jobs were no longer compatible with their lives, they quit their jobs and dedicated their lives to breaking down the structural barriers that continue holding millions of talented women back. Join in on the conversation where Annie and Anna share why 30% of talented women are dropping out of the workforce but 70% of that group say they would still be working if they had flexibility. This is a great conversation of redefining “work” as “werk, w-e-r-k” - Let's dive in!
#018 — [10x10] Core Value #6: What work looks like today is broken. The current version of work—the idea that we work in offices, that we work from 9 to 5, that we’re continuously productive throughout the day, at equal measures—there is overwhelming evidence that this isn’t true. Research shows that we aren’t effective in an 8-hour workday. We’re seeing the results of a broken workplace with the amount of people dropping out, the lack of diversity in the workplace, and more. Work is especially broken for women. And when we layer in parenting, and we try to make all of it fit together, within the paradigm that currently exists, well, what we see is that across the board, it doesn’t fully work. In this core value, we take the stance that what work looks like today can be wildly improved on. We believe that the future of work can be far better than what we see today. So, in this project, as part of the work of Startup Pregnant, we’re asking: Why is work so broken? What does the future of work look like? FULL SHOW NOTES: Get the complete show notes at www.startuppregnant.com/018 RESOURCES MENTIONED: Episode #002 on Work Flexibility with Annie Dean 10x10 CONTEST: THE QUESTION From November 13th — November 30th, 2017, we're having a contest on www.startuppregnant.com/thanksgiving-contest! Head to our website to read the rules and prizes, be sure to listen in and leave a comment on every episode released during these two weeks. Head to the show notes listed above to be a part of the contest by leaving a comment. Ends November 30th, 2017. Questions of this episode: What should work look like, and what will look like? More specifically: what does it mean to have your work, well, work, for you? What does a world of work look like in your vision? THE STARTUP PREGNANT PODCAST & HOST: Startup Pregnant Startup Pregnant on Facebook Startup Pregnant on Twitter Sponsor the Podcast --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/startuppregnant/message
In our series premiere, we’ll talk about how technology has made it possible to radically restructure what the modern workplace looks like, and how making changes to how we work is one of the most effective ways we can make the tech industry welcoming to more people. I’ll start with Skillcrush’s story of going completely remote as a way to find our balance, and then talk to Annie Dean of Werk to get into the bigger picture around workplace flexibility—especially as it relates to advancing marginalized people in the tech world. Finally, we’ll come back to my own team, who will talk about the reality of remote work, including how they fight its biggest downside.
#002 — Thirty percent of talented women drop out of the workforce, not because they want to, but because the way work looks is outdated, flawed, and fails women and families on a regular basis. And a full 70% of those women would still be working if they had access to better (or any) workplace flexibility. What would it do for our economy and businesses if we weren’t losing so ambitious, committed employees so rapidly? The corporate world is stuck in a structural model that is a relic of the post-Industrial era. Today’s guest on the show is an entrepreneur building a simple, yet revolutionary answer that makes the world fit women—rather than trying to make women fit into the world. Annie Dean is the Co-CEO of Werk, a company that pre-negotiates flexibility with top companies and creates a standard model, with definitions, of what flexibility looks like in the workplace. For too long, the idea of flexibility has been poorly defined, and they quickly changed that. Annie shares her belief that flexibility is the future of feminism. Her company seeks to create compatibility between the objectives of the employer and the needs of the employee via simple modifications to the structure of work. Too many women are quitting or opting for less ambitious roles in a forced choice between career and care, and Werk is on mission to update company policies to reflect modern realities and provide women with the opportunity to reach the highest ranks of leadership. Today we discuss the public’s response to Werk, from the backlash from both liberals and conservatives, to their highly discussed piece in the New York Times and how Annie faces the challenge of changing the narrative around women in the workplace. Sponsor offers, full show notes and more from the episode: Thank you to the sponsor of this episode: Meet Edgar! Grab your free two-week trial of Meet Edgar, a social media scheduling tool that allows you to create content once and re-use it as much as you need, at http://ed.gr/startuppregnant. All of our sponsor offers are available on our website for you to grab the perks and discounts offered to podcast listeners: http://startuppregnant.com/sponsors And get the complete show notes with episode quotes, photos, and time stamps at www.startuppregnant.com/002 . About Annie Dean and Werk Annie Dean spent six years in corporate law, negotiating billion-dollar real estate transactions for institutional lenders and equity owners. After giving birth to her first son, Annie realized that the expectations and pressures of 16-hour days at the firm were setting her up for failure. Ever the overachiever, she co-founded Werk to repair the leadership pipeline and make the workplace compatible with parenting. Werk Website Werk on Facebook Werk on Twitter Werk on Instagram Resources Books by Anne-Marie Slaughter Startup Pregnant Startup Pregnant on Facebook Startup Pregnant on Twitter Sponsor the Podcast --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/startuppregnant/message
Flexibility isn't just a perk - it's essential for keeping talented women in the workplace and on track for leadership positions. Morra talks to Annie Dean and Anna Auerbach, co-founders of the job site Werk, about their tips for negotiating flexibility, caregiving while working and taking control of your schedule so you can thrive.
At I Want Her Job we love a good startup story, and we like one that involves two friends destined to meet and create a business even more. One day in early 2016, Annie Dean called her friends – asking them to direct her to the smartest women they knew. As fate would have it, a few friends directed Annie to Anna Auerbach, a woman described by mutual friends as a “force of intelligence” and full of energy. Over a phone conversation, Anna shared her thoughts on a business that would help create a marketplace for women seeking flexible job opportunities. Annie was instantly hooked on the idea, and this first phone call ignited a passion and partnership between the two dynamic women. The idea became Werk, a business dedicated to helping women thrive in the workforce and find flexible job opportunities. Since launching earlier this year, Werk has received funding, created a marketplace for flexible jobs with over 60 companies – including Facebook, Uber and Samsung – and has hired a staff of four and developed a new product. Anna’s Harvard MBA and McKinsey background, combined with Anna’s experience in practicing law, they say, has given them a distinct advantage during their research, analysis and business planning phases for Werk. As self-professed data geeks, Annie and Anna knew that data was showing them a business opportunity for a site like Werk was there. And as ambitious young mothers to toddlers with demanding professional careers, Anna and Annie understand firsthand the challenges women face when they don’t want – or cannot take a break – from working. In fact, research shows more than 30% of women end up leaving the workforce after having children. And, of those that left, 70% say they would have stayed in their jobs if they had been given more flexibility. Furthermore, a Bain research study has shown that women value flexibility more than titles, location and pay. The data, as well as common sense, shows the supply is there, and from a business perspective, flexibility lowers costs and helps companies recruit and retain top talent. We’re thrilled to share episode 33 of I Want Her Job: The Podcast with you. We hope the story of Annie and Annie inspire you to shift your own thoughts on the work/life culture.
Anna and Annie are ambitious women who faced a rude awakening upon becoming mothers. They both tried a reduced work schedule, but it didn't work at all. Concluding that "exhaustion is not a status symbol," Annie and Anna set about to revolutionize the working world for women -- to create flexibility without compromising pay or ambition, to allow women to pursue their dream careers and caregiving simultaneously. Listen to their story of founding Werk and get excited about the possibilities!
Ellevate Podcast: Conversations With Women Changing the Face of Business
Annie Dean and Anna Auerbach believe the leadership pipeline is broken and that having flexible work opportunities for ambitious women would be the way to fix it. After both of their high achieving careers (Annie is a lawyer and Anna a consultant who then worked in the nonprofit sector) they started their own company, Werk, with the aim of helping women stay in the workforce and not opt-out when they become mothers. In this episode, Annie and Anna share their mission, why we need to take the term “mommy track” out of commission, why guilt and shame should not be a part of flexible work arrangements and their advice for new and aspiring entrepreneurs.
Ellevate Podcast: Conversations With Women Changing the Face of Business
Annie Dean and Anna Auerbach believe the leadership pipeline is broken and that having flexible work opportunities for ambitious women would be the way to fix it. After both of their high achieving careers (Annie is a lawyer and Anna a consultant who then worked in the nonprofit sector) they started their own company, Werk, with the aim of helping women stay in the workforce and not opt-out when they become mothers. In this episode, Annie and Anna share their mission, why we need to take the term “mommy track” out of commission, why guilt and shame should not be a part of flexible work arrangements and their advice for new and aspiring entrepreneurs.