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Adam was in shock yesterday after driving through the metro. We hear from a time Lessie had to call to cops after a similar incident!

What are the hot dates for 2025 weddings, and Lessie called with a great question!

Good food vibes. 2 year Anniversary vibes! Quick week vibes. Shunda vibes! Lessie vibes!

Four-year-old Bobby Dunbar simply disappeared during a fishing trip. Eight months later, he was found. Or was he?Show website: www.truestoriespodcast.comBecome a Patreon Supporter: https://bit.ly/3XLR99vBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-stories-with-seth-andrews--5621867/support.

¡Acabemos con esto! Sof sufre decidiendo si ama más a Kelsier y Mare o a Wax y Lessie, MeLaan nos manda a todos a freír espárragos, se arma una revolución, nos encontramos horizontes abiertos más allá de nuestras expectativas, discutimos cómo suena el ser apuñalado (tras haber sido enseñadas por el gran Sir Christopher Lee), convenimos en que la ira lleva al Lado Oscuro de la Fuerza, cantamos sobre “ser esclavo de tus clavos”… y acto seguido empieza el duelo. Sanderson. Ouch. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/esquirlas-del-cosmere/message

Most people procrastinate on their taxes, and to feel better about that, we wanted to share other things we procrastinate on! Jesse, Lessie and more added to our list!

Episode 30Baked Aug 21, 2022Voices by DomoJack, Lessie, Shatta & Darrion

Welcome to Episode 52 of the In Her Wallet Podcast! This week, we got a question for you: have you ever struggled with keeping money, making it, or even enjoying it? The answer to dealing with any of the above might be simpler than you think - it's our emotional intelligence. In this episode, Sofiia is joined by Leisse Wilcox, a Strategic Business Coach and 2x best-selling author, for a conversation about how emotional intelligence defines our relationship with money. *Watch this episode in video format on YouTube*If you like this episode, let Sofiia know! Take a screenshot of this page & tag her in your IG stories @sofiiasalimova & @inherwalletpodcast, or simply send her a DM! You can also support the production of In Her Wallet Podcast via this link.Key takeaways:00:00 What we're talking about today02:45 Get to know Leisse08:35 What is wealth EQ11:26 What the Stanley Mug says about you15:02 How to evaluate your wealth EQ18:03 This question will improve your relationship with money20:44 How your earning capabilities are affected by EQ23:27 I seek change. What should I do?25:25 Lessie recommended resources27:50 What is financial freedom to youEpisode resources:Leisse Wilcox WebsiteUse code INHERWALLET for $20 off the "Money Loving" courseSupport the showThank you for listening! If you like the show, please leave us a 5-star review and follow us on your podcast platform of choice. It's a free way to support what we do and help us grow to reach more women on path to financial success. Subscribe to In Her Wallet on YouTube In Her Wallet Instagram, TikTok and Threads

Join 6AMRun.com Ambassador and Host, Marc Paisant, as we welcome the founder of MindCore Fitness LLC, CPT and 6AM Run user, Stefan Lessie.  Simply, Stefan wants to help you.  He wants to help you meet your fitness goals while leaving all judgment at the door.  He knows what it takes to build the discipline and courage to not only start your fitness journey, but stay the course.  He is the founder of Mindcore Fitness and is a personal trainer with GYMGUYZ in Brooklyn New York.   His philosophy is simple: If you want to be better, each day you have to affirm that you'll improve and consistently put the work in. Work takes action. Action takes purpose. Purpose means understanding who you are while finding your "WHY." Why do you want to improve? Why do you want to work hard? Why do you want to become the best version of yourself? Stefan is the person to help you get there.  Please visit: https://www.mindcorefitness.org/ to learn more. To be a guest, or share your story with the 6AM Run Community apply at: https://forms.gle/hBHCKpYKT6R9tH6m7 6AM Run believes in improving everyone's physical ability to not only have motion, but STAY IN MOTION. All this while creating an amazing supportive, surrounding community. Run Faster, Farther, & Recover For More Runs! Guest are found through PodPros (podmatch.com) and recorded through Riverside.fm. 6amrun.com #6amrunSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Ministry and Entrepreneurship series highlights members of the Candler community that serve in ministry while thriving in the entrepreneurial space. Lessie is a 2nd Year MDiv at Candler School of Theology. She is a Licensed Master Social Worker and, a self-taught freelance makeup artist and C.E.O. Ever since her childhood, she has been in love with all things related to the Fashion and Beauty industry. It was at the beginning of her undergraduate career when she began to develop her craft, spending her downtime participating in college fashion shows and providing makeup services− “glamming up” anyone who would offer their face.

494. We interview Congressional Candidate Lessie LeBlanc. Lessie is one of the eight candidates running in the 3rd congressional district race. She's hoping to defeat current congressman Clay Higgins. Leblanc currently works policy and organizing for the Promise of Justice Initiative.  She also holds the District 42 seat on the Democratic State Central Committee and says if elected to Congress, her main focus will be reproductive rights and gun legislation. “The recent Roe versus Wade decision complied with the absolutely abysmal legislation that has been passed at the state level and the absolutely abysmal amendment that was added to our constitution last year stripped these rights. We have stripped these rights away from women, and women want them back. We're going to take them back,” Leblanc said.  She says polls show most Americans want abortion access to be available to people who need it. “If state legislatures refuse to do the will of the people, then we will have to take care of it at the federal level,” she added. Leblanc says she also has big plans for gun control. She says banning assault weapons should be addressed. She also wants people to be aware of ghost guns, or 3D printed guns, that could become a growing problem. In addition, she says the national criminal background check system needs to be re-vamped. “I think firearms do have a place in our society. I don't think an outright ban is the answer. No ban has ever worked. Why would it start working now?” This week in Louisiana history. November 5, 1996. Mary Landrieu, first Louisiana woman to be elected to US Senate. This week in New Orleans history. Buried Alive November 5, 1970. Many still remember the guy who had himself "buried" in front of the Taco Bell at 4001 Veterans Highway back in 1970 but few remember the details. Below is a November 5, 1970 article which describes why 23 year-old Gretna resident John Diffley found himself in a home-made 3x3x8 foot coffin on public view via a peek-through shoot for the cost of a mere quarter. Diffley's aim was to break a 63-day "buried alive" record by enduring 65 days underground to earn college money. On day 22 at 11 P.M., two men dropped a five-foot Blue Runner snake down the shoot and Diffley wound up at Ochsner hospital -- treated for shock.  The men, both Avondale Shipyard workers,  were arrested for criminal mischief, although they claimed to be merely playing a practical joke. Several days later, Diffley returned to the tomb, determined to break the record, but had to start over again at day one.  I can find no information as to whether John Diffley successfully met his goal. This week in Louisiana. Kent House Plantation 3601 Bayou Rapides Road Alexandria, LA 71303 Phone 318-487-5660 Website $11.00 - Adults $9.00 - Senior Adults (65+), Military, and AAA $3.50 - Children Ages 6-12  Free - Children Under 6 Tours begin in our Gift Shop at the top of the hour Monday through Saturday 9:00am | 11:00am | 1:00pm | 3:00pm Postcards from Louisiana. Lily the Bone Jeweler. You can find her jewelry on Instagram  @abrasax.Listen on Google Play.Listen on Google Podcasts.Listen on Spotify.Listen on Stitcher.Listen on TuneIn.The Louisiana Anthology Home Page.Like us on Facebook.   

494. We interview Congressional Candidate Lessie LeBlanc. Lessie is one of the eight candidates running in the 3rd congressional district race. She's hoping to defeat current congressman Clay Higgins. Leblanc currently works policy and organizing for the Promise of Justice Initiative. She also holds the District 42 seat on the Democratic State Central Committee and says if elected to Congress, her main focus will be reproductive rights and gun legislation. “The recent Roe versus Wade decision complied with the absolutely abysmal legislation that has been passed at the state level and the absolutely abysmal amendment that was added to our constitution last year stripped these rights. We have stripped these rights away from women, and women want them back. We're going to take them back,” Leblanc said.  She says polls show most Americans want abortion access to be available to people who need it. “If state legislatures refuse to do the will of the people, then we will have to take care of it at the federal level,” she added. Leblanc says she also has big plans for gun control. She says banning assault weapons should be addressed. She also wants people to be aware of ghost guns, or 3D printed guns, that could become a growing problem. In addition, she says the national criminal background check system needs to be re-vamped. “I think firearms do have a place in our society. I don't think an outright ban is the answer. No ban has ever worked. Why would it start working now?” This week in Louisiana history. November 5, 1996. Mary Landrieu, first Louisiana woman to be elected to US Senate. This week in New Orleans history. Buried Alive November 5, 1970. Many still remember the guy who had himself "buried" in front of the Taco Bell at 4001 Veterans Highway back in 1970 but few remember the details. Below is a November 5, 1970 article which describes why 23 year-old Gretna resident John Diffley found himself in a home-made 3x3x8 foot coffin on public view via a peek-through shoot for the cost of a mere quarter. Diffley's aim was to break a 63-day "buried alive" record by enduring 65 days underground to earn college money. On day 22 at 11 P.M., two men dropped a five-foot Blue Runner snake down the shoot and Diffley wound up at Ochsner hospital -- treated for shock.  The men, both Avondale Shipyard workers,  were arrested for criminal mischief, although they claimed to be merely playing a practical joke. Several days later, Diffley returned to the tomb, determined to break the record, but had to start over again at day one.  I can find no information as to whether John Diffley successfully met his goal. This week in Louisiana. Kent House Plantation 3601 Bayou Rapides Road Alexandria, LA 71303 Phone 318-487-5660 Website $11.00 - Adults $9.00 - Senior Adults (65+), Military, and AAA $3.50 - Children Ages 6-12  Free - Children Under 6 Tours begin in our Gift Shop at the top of the hour Monday through Saturday 9:00am | 11:00am | 1:00pm | 3:00pm Postcards from Louisiana. Lily the Bone Jeweler. You can find her jewelry on Instagram  @abrasax.Listen on Google Play.Listen on Google Podcasts.Listen on Spotify.Listen on Stitcher.Listen on TuneIn.The Louisiana Anthology Home Page.Like us on Facebook.   

Lessie wakes up to find that Aphrodite, the goddess of love, has come to visit her after Lessie's eventful night out. After all that happened, will the goddess finally share why Lessie is being pursued? And Lessie and the gang are sent on a trip to seek out someone who may be able to teach her what she needs to know about her burgeoning powers. __ Please check out our socials, and share, rate and subscribe where you can! Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WitcheryThePodcast/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/WitcheryPodAU TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@witcherythepodcast Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/WitcheryThePodcast/ Discord: https://discord.gg/CD5p4TqT Instagram: https://www.Instagram.com/witcherythepodcast

As she discovers her flat has been broken into and wrecked by intruders unknown, Lessie finds her aunt and uncle missing and a mysterious note in a book that appeared in her room. With her home targeted, Lessie must flee, and the only people she has to turn to are a strange individual who claims to be an ancient tree nymph and the hot guy she met that morning who has the ability to transform into a lynx. How will she protect Ashika with the new turn of events, and what does her future hold now everything she loved has been torn away from her? Producer's Notes: Unfortunately the file I was editing the podcast on died just as I was completing the final mix, so this episode is a bit rough around the edges. I will be striving to acquire better hardware so this doesn't happen yet again. Socials: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WitcheryThePodcast/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/WitcheryPodAU TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@witcherythepodcast Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/WitcheryThePodcast/ Discord: https://discord.gg/CD5p4TqT Instagram: https://www.Instagram.com/witcherythepodcast Email: TheWitcheryPodcastAU@gmail.com

Episode 29Baked April 23, 2022Voices by DomoJack, Lessie, Shatta, Shawn & Darrion

Episode 28Baked April 20, 2022Voices by DomoJack, Lessie, Shatta, Darrion & P.J

Lessie and Luka are brought before Dionysus, the God of Wine and the Wilderness, who is ridiculously hot and admittedly curious about Aphrodite's sudden interest in them. After dodging the aforementioned lusty wine deity, Lessie, Luka and Ashika are beset upon in the alley by more shadowy beings. They are not alone in their struggle, however, as a willowy club patron comes to their aid. Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WitcheryThePodcast/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/WitcheryPodAU TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@witcherythepodcast Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/WitcheryThePodcast/ Discord: https://discord.gg/CD5p4TqT Instagram: https://www.Instagram.com/witcherythepodcast

Episode 27Baked April 1, 2022Voices by DomoJack, Lessie, Shatta & Darrion

Lessie must confront her aunt about the truth of the existence of a broader supernatural world, and afterwards, she and Luka meet up with Lessie's best friend, Ashika Chaturvedi. She takes them to a new nightclub, and Lessie's sixth sense, burgeoning out of the blue, feels the presence of a powerful god on the premises. As she is drawn in to their audience, she begins to understand the potential dangers of the supernatural world she has been dropped head first into. Scheduling Update: Apologies for the late release, but I have been recovering from post-COVID fatigue, which has also been affecting my vocal chords - yay. Hopefully we'll be on a regular schedule soon. Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WitcheryThePodcast/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/WitcheryPodAU TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@witcherythepodcast Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/WitcheryThePodcast/ Discord: https://discord.gg/CD5p4TqT Instagram: https://www.Instagram.com/witcherythepodcast

After having her bag snatched by a shadowy criminal, Lessie chases down the thief as Luka tries to wrestle it back from him, and in the aftermath, they are aided by an alluring stranger. She's gentle. She's gorgeous. She runs a dating agency and her astounding beauty makes Lessie question her sexuality, (which is not something she's done before). Lessie and Luka get to know her, and she soon divulges information which rocks Lessie's world, her soul, and her understanding of the cosmos itself. COVID UPDATE: Hey, peeps! I'm finally over my COVID infection (mostly). My voice is still rough, so I couldn't record additional content in the past week. Release of the first Supplemental is thusly delayed, but it IS coming, along with Supplemental Ep02! Send those questions and comments in! And don't forget to rate the podcast so that others can find it and enjoy it too. Thank you for sticking with me in these wild times! Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WitcheryThePodcast/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/WitcheryPodAU TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@witcherythepodcast Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/WitcheryThePodcast/ Discord: https://discord.gg/CD5p4TqT Instagram: https://www.Instagram.com/witcherythepodcast

Episode 26Baked March 18, 2022Voices by DomoJack, Lessie, Shatta & Darrion

Alessandra "Lessie" Innes is a 23 year old bookstore clerk with a talent for yarn arts and making a tit of herself in public. She also happens to be a witch - your average, modern day pagan, that is. At least that's what she thought until a strange young man enters her uncle's antique occult book store and asks about books on werewolves (it's not what you think). This kicks off a series of events where Lessie's world is turned entirely upside down. Reality and fantasy wrestle until they're an exhausted, sweaty mess that Lessie must wriggle through before she can even begin to understand who she really is and the depths of her magical powers. But first she has to get to the end of the first episode without seriously injuring herself or mortally wounding her badly maintained veneer of normalcy. Can she do it? Find out, on "Witchery." Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WitcheryThePodcast

Episode 25Baked March 12, 2022Voices by DomoJack, Lessie, Shatta, Darrion, Ace, Tae & P.J.

Episode 24Baked March 05,  2022Voices by DomoJack, Lessie, Shatta & Darrion

Episode 23Baked Febuary 23, 2022Voices by DomoJack, Lessie, Shatta, Darrion, J'Dei & DizzleKnews

Episode 22Baked Febuary 11,  2022Voices by DomoJack, Lessie, Shatta, Darrion & J'Dei 

Episode 21Baked Febuary 09,  2022Voices by DomoJack, Lessie, Shatta, Darrion & DizzleKnews 

Prepárate para el final de la segunda temporada de Euphoria, la serie original de HBO. Las grandes preguntas, teorías sobre lo que puede pasar y la participación de la periodista Lessie (@intravenous_sugar) y la autora Tamara Tenenbaum (@tamtenenbaum) para hablar de moda, vínculos y más. Síguenos en tu aplicación de podcast preferida.

Episode 20Baked January 26, 2021Voices by DomoJack, Shatta, Lessie, Darrion

Episode 19Baked November 27, 2021Voices by DomoJack, Shatta, Lessie, Monique, Darrion, PJ & DizzleKnews

Episode 18Baked November 21, 2021Voices by DomoJack, Lessie, Shatta, J'Dei & Darrion

Episode 17Baked November 6, 2021 Voices by Darrion, DomoJack, J' Dei, Lessie, Nikki, Shatta 

Episode 16Baked October 24, 2021 Voices by DomoJack, Shatta, Lessie, J' Dei, Darrion

Episode 15Baked September 18, 2021 - P1Baked October 16, 2021 - P2Voices both Episodes by DomoJack, Shatta, Lessie, J' Dei, Darrion

Episode 14Baked September 10, 2021Voices by DomoJack, Shatta, Lessie, Darrion,

Episode 13Baked September 4, 2021Voices by DomoJack, Shatta, Lessie, J'Dei, Darrion & Dizzle Knews

Episode 12Baked August 28, 2021Voices by DomoJack, Lessie, Shatta, J'Dei & Darrion

Episode 10Baked August 7, 2021Voices by DomoJack, Lessie, Shatta, Darrion, J'Dei, Dizzle Knews & Nanni

Episode 9Baked July 31, 2021Voices by DomoJack, Lessie, Shatta, Darrion, J'Dei & Nanni

Episode 8Baked July 24, 2021Voices by DomoJack, Lessie, Shatta, J'Dei & Darrion

Episode 7Baked June 26, 2021Voices by DomoJack, Lessie, Shatta, Darrion & J'Dei

Episode 6Baked June 11, 2021Voices by DomoJack, Lessie, Shatta, J'Dei, Tae & Darrion

Episode 5Baked May 29, 2021Voices by DomoJack, Lessie, Shatta, Darrion & Dizzle Knews

Episode 4Baked May 8, 2021Voices by DomoJack, Lessie, Shatta, Darrion, J'Dei, Tae & T

Episode 3Baked April 17,  2021Voices by DomoJack, Lessie, Shatta, Darrion, J'Dei & Dizzle Knews

Episode 2Baked April 3, 2021Voices by DomoJack, Lessie, Shatta, Darrion & Dizzle Knews

Episode 1Baked March 19, 2021Voices by DomoJack, Lessie, Shatta, Darrion & T

In this episode, Erika goes back to the 1920’s and shares with us the mysterious death of Thelma Todd also known as “The Ice Cream Blonde”.  Thelma was a beautiful, brilliant, and talented young woman who started her love of the spotlight winning beauty pageants.  She was soon discovered by a talent scout for Paramount Studios and shortly ruled the Silver Screen during the Silent Film Era.  She then went on to become one of the most sought-after actors in the Talkies Film Era. She had a few romantic relationships but was mostly known to have been involved with Roland West.  Thelma would also venture into owning her own restaurant, which she named “Thelma Todd’s Sidewalk Café”.  Thelma was loved and adored by all and was always up to gather with friends and enjoy a good party.  One evening she was invited to a party by Stanley and Ida Lupino, at the party she ends up running into her ex, but still managed to enjoy her night. Early the next morning her driver got her back home safely and the next morning she was found dead in her car.  So, take a listen and decide for yourself if it was an accident or was it murder. Erika pulled her sources from:www.Allmovie.com/”Thelma Todd”/Hal Erickson/Dec 22, 2015www.eagletribune.com/”In remembrance Thelma Todd on her would be 107th Birthday/Special to the Eagle Tribune/Stephen M. Painter/Jul 28,2013www.newenglandhistoricalsociety.comThen Amber covers the disappearance of Bobby Dunbar. Bobby disappeared in 1912 at the age of 4 while on a camping trip with his parents Lessie and Percy and his younger brother Alonzo. Eight months later, a young boy is found matching Bobby's description. They boy is returned to the Dunbar's as their missing son Bobby, but was he?Amber pulled her sources from:www.countryroadsmagazine.com “Pastimes: The Strange Case of Bobby Dunbar” by Terry L. Joneswww.allthatsinteresting.com “Bobby Dunbar: The Boy Who Vanished and Came Back as a New Child” by Katie SerenaWikipediaThis American Life "The Ghost of Bobby Dunbar"

All of our guests on RSP are good people, but this title is a nod to Lessie's sage advice on how to be a successful freelance musician: Be a good person! Lessie discusses all the various activities that keep her busy, from composing, teaching, and copyist work to performing with top tier acts like Beyoncé, The Carters, Lizzo, Kathy Sledge, and the BET Black Girls Rock All Star Band.*LINKS*Lessie's websiteFollow Lessie on Twitter, Facebook, and InstagramHer article on Brass ChicksSelected Videos:Art Is Live featureBeyoncé: "All Night Long"Festival of New Trumpet Music: “Emerging Voices” ShowcaseThe Broadway Sinfonietta: "You're Gonna Hear from Me"Lizzo: Cuz I Love You/Truth Hurts, Live from the 62nd GrammysFollow us on Instagram at @Rising_Stars_Podcast_More about the host at caroljantsch.com

Sarah Hines (Assistant Professor, Department of History, University of Oklahoma) and James Cane-Carrasco (Associate Professor, Departments of History and International & Area Studies, University of Oklahoma) speak with Lessie Jo Frazier (Professor, Departments of Gender Studies and American Studies, Indiana University-Bloomington) about her new book,  Desired States: Sex, Gender, and Political Culture in Chile (Rutgers UP, 2020). In a powerful refutation to scholars who relegate gendered social order and sexuality to the private sphere, Lessie Jo Frazier contends that desire played a central role in the political culture of the modern Chilean state. In four chapters and an epilogue that span 1913 to 2019, Prof. Frazier documents how public debates over sexuality—including those over working women's behavior, the vulnerability of male prisoners of war, and socialist masculinities—have long shaped the body politic. Frazier unites ethnographic fieldwork, cultural criticism, and extensive archival research to highlight how states and political movements conjure or condemn people's desires for institutional purposes. Join us for a conversation about the serendipity that brought her to research in Chile, and the diverse influences that shaped this book. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sarah Hines (Assistant Professor, Department of History, University of Oklahoma) and James Cane-Carrasco (Associate Professor, Departments of History and International & Area Studies, University of Oklahoma) speak with Lessie Jo Frazier (Professor, Departments of Gender Studies and American Studies, Indiana University-Bloomington) about her new book,  Desired States: Sex, Gender, and Political Culture in Chile (Rutgers UP, 2020). In a powerful refutation to scholars who relegate gendered social order and sexuality to the private sphere, Lessie Jo Frazier contends that desire played a central role in the political culture of the modern Chilean state. In four chapters and an epilogue that span 1913 to 2019, Prof. Frazier documents how public debates over sexuality—including those over working women's behavior, the vulnerability of male prisoners of war, and socialist masculinities—have long shaped the body politic. Frazier unites ethnographic fieldwork, cultural criticism, and extensive archival research to highlight how states and political movements conjure or condemn people's desires for institutional purposes. Join us for a conversation about the serendipity that brought her to research in Chile, and the diverse influences that shaped this book.

Connect with Lessie Here: https://www.instagram.com/lessievtrumpet/ Support her causes here: upbeatnyc.org Bio: A Grand Prairie, Texas native, Lessie Vonner's love of music began at a young age when she picked up the trumpet at eleven. Lessie's passion encouraged her to pursue a music education at the renowned Booker T. Washington High School for the Performing and Visual Arts in Dallas, and she eventually chose to attend the New School for Jazz and Contemporary Music in New York City. She currently performs in many venues throughout NYC and has performed in various music scenes across the world. She also performs in numerous groups around the city and has worked with artists such as Beyoncé, Jay-Z, Lizzo, Kathy Sledge, and many more. Lessie has recently received Grammy recognition for her participation on Beyoncé's award-winning music film “Homecoming”, as well as for her work on the CARTERS' award-winning “Everything Is Love” album. Support this podcast

Episode 11, finds co-hosts Lanier and Lessie in an engaging discussion of the strategic, systematic erosion of civil liberties and civil rights for Black America's and those who would support our just and righteous cause, through criminalizing Constitutionally protected liberties of freedom of speech and protest. With America's democracy in what can only be described as tatters, will the U.S. Supreme Court rule Tennessee's law in contradiction with the United States' Constitution's Bill of Rights or can citizens of Tennessee and other states kiss those liberties good-bye. Our audience call to action is Our call to action with this episode is self-care! If necessary, seek help from a professional who can and will validate the realness of what you're feeling and experiencing, even if not directly on the front lines but vicariously! A lot is being thrown at Black folk to the point it can have the effect of desensitizing us. To the protestors who are on the front lines, we are grateful. Thank you. To those of us not out in the protests, please use your gifts, talents and abilities for the collective good and uplift of Blacks as we press on for justice, equality and equity in all areas of political and socioeconomic spheres! Co-host Book Suggestions Leviathan Or the Matter Form and Power of a Commonwealth, Ecclesiastical and Civil by Thomas Hobbes Bearing Witness While Black: African Americans, Smartphones, and the New Protest #Journalism by Allissa V. Richardson Additional links NY times article: BLM may be the largest movement in the US History https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/07/03/us/george-floyd-protests- crowd-size.html Link from Clip played: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LH33NX29b4I Legislatures crack down on protestors: https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/politics/2020/08/12/tennessee-passes-law-targeting-protesters-makes-capitol-camping-felony/3354879001/ constitution act: https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-1/#:~:text=Congress%20shall%20make%20no%20law,for%20a%20redress%20of%20grievances https://blavity.com/why-19-black-families-purchased-9671-acres-of-land-in-the-midst-of-protests-and-a-pandemic?category1=opinion&category2=news Thanks also to David L Branch II a/k/a Lil Sourstraw for the beat “Toronto.” Connect with HERe ME Podcast: HERe ME Podcast Twitter handle @HEReMEPodcast1 HERe ME Podcast IG handle @heremepodcast --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/here-me/message

In Episode 10, Lanier and Lessie are discussing VP nominee Kamala Harris (pronounced Comma-la). The Co-hosts discuss the importance of Black voters not falling so in love with the “vision” of a Black woman Vice President of the United States the same way they did with the vision of a Black man as President during Obama's presidency. They touch on Kamala's presidential run, the importance of holding Biden/Harris accountable to their agenda and promises should they win and ponder Harris' position on various criminal justice issues. Our audience call to action is Focus on getting to know both Kamala Harris and Joe Biden. Pay attention to the debates. Make a list of things that are important to you. Listen to determine if they're speaking on the issues that are important to you and what their plans are to address those issues. Let's not get lost in the identity -- her Blackness, her gender, or her Greek life affiliation! Co-host Book Suggestions Say It Louder! Black Voters, White Narratives, and Saving Our Democracy by Tiffany Cross Forbes Article Why Black Women Are Better Leaders https://www.forbes.com/sites/paologaudiano/2019/12/02/why-black-women-are-better-leaders/#32d9377d259b Fortune 500 Women CEO Index https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/04/business/fortune-500-women-ceos/index.html Thanks also to David L Branch II a/k/a Lil Sourstraw for the beat “Toronto.” Connect with HERe ME Podcast: HERe ME Podcast Twitter handle @HEReMEPodcast1 HERe ME Podcast IG handle @heremepodcast --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/here-me/message

Episode 9 finds co-hosts Lanier and Lessie talking about lynchings in 21st Century America. A form of domestic terrorism, lynching was a method to dominate and subjugate Blacks during antebellum and civil rights eras as a way to maintain “law and order.” It appears to be attempting a comeback. Our audience call to action is >Statistically in percentages and actual numbers, Blacks are outnumbered. There is literally nothing to stop such terrorism from happening again, especially given our present circumstances. We need allies sure enough. >Get back to building community. Kinship is important, get to know your neighbors and know the parents of your children's friends. We need to be accountable to one another and accountable for one another. No Black man, woman, boy or girl, gets left behind. Co-host Book Suggestions Lynching in America: A History in Documents 1st Ed. Edition, by Christopher Waldrep (Editor) A Brief History of Slavery and the Origins of American Policing Written by Victor E. Kappeler, Ph.D. https://plsonline.eku.edu/insidelook/brief-history-slavery-and-origins-american-policing Thanks also to David L Branch II a/k/a Lil Sourstraw for the beat “Toronto.” Connect with HERe ME Podcast: HERe ME Podcast Twitter handle @HEReMEPodcast1 HERe ME Podcast IG handle @heremepodcast --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/here-me/message

In Episode 8 Lanier and Lessie discuss America's response to the economic downturn in light of COVID-19 and racial unrest. The co-hosts critique federal government leadership, why it is so difficult for America to be charitable to its own citizens and what people are spending their stimulus checks on! Lanier and Lessie provide information on how to determine if you've been issued a stimulus check and when you can expect it to arrive. Our audience call to action is >Register to vote, get 15-20 other people to vote. Fill out the census. In New York state we miss out on close to $2700 per person/per year times ten years for federally funded programs by folk not being counted. >Research where your stimulus check is. The IRS website can help you track where your check is and when you'll receive it. Co-host Book Suggestions More of an article suggestion, this episode. https://nypost.com/2017/07/10/why-ordinary-americans-hold-politicians-and-media-in-contempt-all-in-one-hamptons-party/ Thanks also to David L Branch II a/k/a Lil Sourstraw for the beat “Toronto.” Connect with HERe ME Podcast: HERe ME Podcast Twitter handle @HEReMEPodcast1 HERe ME Podcast IG handle @heremepodcast --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/here-me/message

In Episode 6, Lanier and Lessie aim to help our listeners to understand how intricately woven politics and the economy are. We also want to help Black communities identify an area they would like to participate in as it relates to restructuring their communities by way of politics and economics. Our Audience call to action >find out who your community leaders are and learn where their offices are and what their position is on issues that are important to you and when meetings are held >take free classes online short courses or watch TED talks that break down topics on politics and economics >register to vote; know your community zone and/or district number and officials and how to contact them >follow community leaders on social media; identify the “players” and “conversators” and get to know them Co-hosts Book Suggestions: The Great Transformation by Karl Polanyi Thanks also to David L Branch II a/k/a Lil Sourstraw for the beat “Toronto.” Connect with HERe ME Podcast: HERe ME Podcast Twitter handle @HEReMEPodcast1 HERe ME Podcast IG handle @heremepodcast --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/here-me/message

In Episode 7 Lanier and Lessie discuss COVID-19's impact as correlated to race and why Black folk are the most impacted by this disease. The co-hosts aim to advance the idea that universal healthcare is a time whose idea has come for America. They also admonish people to know their rights as it relates to healthcare and vaccines and wrap up with finding doctors who will actually hear you when you bring your health concerns to them and not act with implicit bias or dismiss your health concerns out of hand. Our audience call to action is >Watch Implicit Bias -- How it Effects Us and How We Push Through | Melanie Funchess | TEDxFlourCity Co-host Book Suggestions Unequal Treatment: Confronting Racial and Ethnic Disparities in Health Care (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion) by Institute of Medicine (Author), Board on Health Sciences Policy (Author), Committee on Understanding and Eliminating Racial and Ethnic Disparities in Health Care (Author), Alan R. Nelson (Editor), Adrienne Y. Stith (Editor), Brian D. Smedley (Editor) Just Medicine; A Cure for Racial Inequality in American Health Care written by Dayna Bowen Matthew Thanks also to David L Branch II a/k/a Lil Sourstraw for the beat “Toronto.” Connect with HERe ME Podcast: HERe ME Podcast Twitter handle @HEReMEPodcast1 HERe ME Podcast IG handle @heremepodcast --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/here-me/message

In Episode 5, “Blackenomics” Kanye Legacy Building and the New Black Wealth, everyone's favorite Co-hosts Lanier and Lessie discuss wealth, how it is acquired and the difference between wealth and income and offer different ways to think about wealth. We invite our audience into this discussion and ask our listeners to consider why representation matters and what is the allure of the Forbes billionaire list. Why do people mainly think of wealth as an output or a goal and not an input that gives one agency? After all, wealth begets wealth! Our Audience call to action is find simple ways to "sock" away money for seed capital to purchase wealth building assets, like sous sous. Know about the free and readily available resources in your city, county and state. Google your nearest job center. Engage with local libraries, SCORE organizations and develop professional relationships with their volunteer staff, many who are retired CEOs and CFOs. They are a "wealth" of information. Co-hosts Book Suggestions: Lessie: Being Black, Living in the Red: Race, Wealth, and Social Policy in America by Dalton Conley Lanier: financialstarterkit.com, capitalSB.com and marcusgram.com - these are websites that provide information on managing finances and creating passive income. Thanks also to David L Branch II a/k/a Lil Sourstraw for the beat “Toronto.” Connect with HERe ME Podcast: HERe ME Podcast Twitter handle @HEReMEPodcast1 HERe ME Podcast IG handle @heremepodcast --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/here-me/message

In Episode 4, Joe Biden Black women in politics. Black women in Politics, we show up to the polls so where are more Black Woman candidates? Your favorite Co-hosts, Lanier and Lessie engage in discussions that touch on why the relatively constitutionally mundane position of VP is so important, the importance of Biden's pick for VP., and which woman will he pick as his running mate. Our audience call to action, over the summer learn about who your local and state level candidates are and what their values are to see if what they stand for resonates with you. One resource is https://www.vote411.org/. Learn how policies are created and what organizations support to have these policies created. Co-host Book Suggestions: Lessie: Optimism At All Costs: Black Attitudes, Activism, and Advancement in Obama's America and This Child Will Be Great: Memoir of a Remarkable Life by Africa's First Woman President Lanier: Youtube interview w/ black Leaders discussion feat, Angela Davis, Kwame Ture & Fannie Lou Hamer (1973) Thanks also to David L Branch II a/k/a Lil Sourstraw for the beat “Toronto.” Connect with HERe ME Podcast: HERe ME Podcast Twitter handle @HEReMEPodcast1 HERe ME Podcast IG handle @heremepodcast --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/here-me/message

In Episode 3, Ahmaud, Breonna, George...Here we go again! Co-hosts Lanier and Lessie discuss the continued brutalization of Black bodies through the lens of the recent murders of Ahmaud, Breonna and George at the hands of law enforcement. Why does the law consistently fail to protect Black people and is there anywhere in America where Black people can live without fear of being killed by law enforcement? The Cohosts delve into political and other forms of power and their use to effect positive change for Black people. We invite our audience into this discussion and ask our listeners to consider ways in which they can civically engage to advance the cause for racial and economic justice for Blacks. Our call to action for this episode is to find out what are police compliance rules for your city and how to get unjust rules changed. Co-host Book Suggestions: Lessie: Black Trials Citizenship from the Beginnings of Slavery to the End of Caste - Mark S. Weiner Lanier: The COINTELPRO Papers: Documents from the FBI's Secret Wars Against Dissent in the United States by Ward Churchhill and Jim Vander Wall Thanks also to David L Branch II a/k/a Lil Sourstraw for the beat “Toronto.” Connect with HERe ME Podcast: HERe ME Podcast Twitter handle @HEReMEPodcast1 HERe ME Podcast IG handle @heremepodcast --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/here-me/message

In Who is Co-host, Lanier Logan, HERe ME: Black Women Defying the Narratives that Shape Us, Cohost Dr. Lessie Branch, interviews Cohost, Lanier Logan, the Executive Startup Strategist. In this “getting to know her moment,” Lessie and Lanier take their listeners on a journey into who Lanier is and what inspires her goal to “help 100,000 Black Women to increase their earning potential.” We'll also explore what compels Lanier to exceed and excel, and the defining moments in her life that have converged to define who Lanier is today and what narratives she has defied while operating as a change agent. For more information on Lanier Logan www.lanierlogan.com You can also connect with Lanier on social media Twitter & Instagram: @mrsyoungmogul Thanks also to David L Branch II a/k/a Lil Sourstraw for the beat “Toronto.” Connect with HERe ME Podcast: HERe ME Podcast Twitter handle @HEReMEPodcast1 HERe ME Podcast IG handle @heremepodcast --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/here-me/message

In Who is Co-host, Lessie Branch, HERe ME: Black Women Defying the Narratives that Shape Us, Cohost Lanier Logan, the Executive Startup Strategist interviews Cohost, Dr. Lessie Branch. In this “getting to know her moment,” Lanier and Lessie take their listeners on a journey into Lessie's “beginnings,” exploring what shapes, and motivates her, what are some of Lessie's fears and what narratives she has defied while pursuing her goals, as well as why this podcast at this moment! For more information on Dr. Lessie Branch www.lessiebranch.com You can also connect with Dr Branch on social media Twitter & Instagram: @lessiebbranch Thanks also to David L Branch II a/k/a Lil Sourstraw for the beat “Toronto.” Connect with HERe ME Podcast: HERe Me Podcast Twitter handle @HEReMEPodcast1 HERe Me Podcast IG handle @heremepodcast --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/here-me/message

Optimism at All Costs: Black Attitudes, Activism, and Advancement in Obama's America (University of  Massachusetts Press, 2018) takes as its point of departure and central preoccupation the notion of “paradoxical ebullience,” by which author Lessie B. Branch means the optimism expressed by African Americans during the presidency of Barack Obama despite a lack of socioeconomic gains (and some notable reversals) during the same period. Branch's argument around what she considers unwarranted optimism is premised on the idea that during the Obama era, African Americans bought into an elite discourse that was a departure from the discursive norms of the 20th-century Civil Rights movement, and whose leaders discouraged optimism. Both Branch and leaders such as Martin Luther King Jr. see outsized optimism as undermining the collective action necessary for meaningful social change. Mireille Djenno is the African Studies Librarian at Indiana University. She can be reached at mdjenno@indiana.edu Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/african-american-studies

In this episode, I am excited to have Amy M. Gardner on. Amy M. Gardner is an attorney and certified professional coach who coaches attorneys on career, leadership, and professionalism issues as a principal at Apochromatik. She also provides group trainings and consulting services to law firms and other organizations. Amy has a unique track record of working with law students as dean of students at the University of Chicago Law School and a successful career practicing law, first as a Skadden litigation associate and later as an associate and then partner at a mid-size Chicago firm. Amy has been interviewed by news outlets and websites on topics including time management, leadership, professionalism, and developing and maintaining friendships as an adult. She received her B.A. from Luther College, her J.D. from the University of Chicago Law School and her M.A. in Public Policy and Administration from Northwestern University. She is a graduate of the Institute of Professional Excellence in Coaching. Topics Covered Amy starts out the episode by talking about her career path and how she kept focused on keeping her career in line with her true self. Different important aspects lawyers should be aware of when thinking about time management, as well as different tips and tricks to tracking your time. For attorneys with a significant other or spouse, what the most important hour of the week looks like in keeping the relationship strong. An amazing perspective on goal-writing to make sure you are staying motivated in reaching them, are realistic and attainable, and how to avoid beating yourself up with goals that seem too hard. For more information on Amy, find her at the following sites: www.apochromatik.com linkedin.com/in/amygardner Sources mentioned: http://amzn.to/2BUoXYZ   Questions? Comments? Email Jeena! hello@jeenacho.com. You can also connect with Jeena on Twitter: @Jeena_Cho For more information, visit: jeenacho.com Order The Anxious Lawyer book — Available in hardcover, Kindle and Audible Find Your Ease: Retreat for Lawyers I'm creating a retreat that will provide a perfect gift of relaxation and rejuvenation with an intimate group of lawyers. Interested? Please complete this form: https://jeena3.typeform.com/to/VXfIXq MINDFUL PAUSE: Bite-Sized Practices for Cultivating More Joy and Focus 31-day program. Spend just 6 minutes every day to practice mindfulness and meditation. Decrease stress/anxiety, increase focus and concentration. Interested? http://jeenacho.com/mindful-pause/ Check out this episode!   Transcript Amy Gardner: [00:00:08] Nor am I investing my time the way that I want to and the way that I need to in order to achieve my goals. Intro: [00:00:18] Welcome to The Resilient Lawyer podcast. In this podcast, we have meaningful, in-depth conversations with lawyers, entrepreneurs, and change agents. We offer tools and strategies for creating a more joyful and satisfying life. And now your host, Jeena Cho. Jeena Cho: [00:00:38] Hello my friends, thanks for being with us today. In this episode I'm so happy to have Amy Gardner. She is an attorney and certified professional coach who coaches attorneys on career leadership and professionalism as she is at Appochromatik. She also provides group training and consulting services to law firms and other organizations. Amy has a unique track record of working with law students as dean of students at University of Chicago Law School and a successful career practicing law or as a litigation associate and later as an associate partner at Miss Chicago firm. Before we get into the interview, if you haven't listened to the last bonus episode go back and check it out. I shared a 6 minute guided meditation practice to let go of stress and anxiety. It's a preview for my course Mindful Pause, which will relaunch in March. So often I hear lawyers say they know they should practice mindfulness but they don't have the time, and as I always tell every lawyer they can start with just six minutes or .1 hour. Of all the hours you dedicate to your clients, work, and others, you deserve to have at least one hour to yourself. Mindful Pause is designed for lawyers like you to fit into your hectic schedule. Also, check it out in the show notes or head on over to JeenaCho.com to learn more. And with that, here's Amy. Amy, welcome to The Resilient Lawyer podcast. Amy Gardner: [00:02:01] Thank you. I'm so happy to be here. I really appreciate it. Jeena Cho: [00:02:04] So let's just get started by having you know give us a 30 second introduction of who you are and what you Dale. Amy Gardner: [00:02:10] Sure. So as you mentioned I previously practiced law first at Skåne Chicago and then at a mid-sized firm in Chicago. It is now part of Nixon Peabody and after making partner there realized. About a year later that it wasn't quite the right fit for me and quite what I expected it to be. So I went to the University of Chicago Law School as the dean of students there created a number of professionalism and leadership programs there and had the opportunity to do some coaching trainings and start using a Coaching Approach with students which I found really rewarding and enjoyable. And so when I decided to leave the University of Chicago Law School I wanted to hang on to some of the elements that I had really liked about the Dean of Students job and one of those was the coaching aspect. So I completed an intensive coaching certification program and now I coach attorneys and other professionals often as you said on career and leadership issues. So people who are not sure if they want to make partner or people who want to make partner but need to work on certain skills to be able to get there or people who just have been sliding through their careers and need help to start move into moving into a place where they're actually deciding what they want and then for people who want to make a change. I often do mock interviews resume review cover letter review and things like that. [00:03:33] And then as you mentioned we also do trainings often for law firms and other organizations on things like time management. How to receive feedback how to give feedback how to be a good mentor or good mentee. All sorts of topics like that just trying to help attorneys and other professionals to get rid of the distractions and distortions in their careers and really focus on what they want out of their careers and lives and then how to get there. Jeena Cho: [00:04:02] I think your career is just so interesting because I find that so often lawyers like really super identify with who they are with what they do. It's almost like the sum of their entire sum of who they are as just being a lawyer and just seems like such a huge jump to go from like being in a law firm to going back to a law school as as a dad and then now kind of going off on your own and doing coaching and you just talk a little bit about that journey. And like you know how did you know that it was time to shift. And did you have any like hesitations about letting go of your identity as a lawyer. Amy Gardner: [00:04:45] I think for me it was I loved practicing law. I had done two trials. I had second chaired a really big jury trial in Texas. I had taken a bunch of depositions I had done all the things that you're supposed to do. And I had enjoyed a lot about that. I enjoyed the intellectual challenge but several of my professors came to me and said hey you know the Dean of Students is leaving. You should think about doing this. And I was sort of like give me a break. I'm a law firm partner. Why would I want to go be responsible for 700 students. [00:05:20] And I had the opportunity to do a four week fellowship in Europe through the German Marshall Fund and I met all of these amazing lawyers in different cities in Europe who were doing things that felt more meaningful to me than the work that I was doing at that point and it got me thinking more broadly about what I could do with my skills and experience. And that didn't necessarily involve discovery disputes and things like that and I realized that OK maybe the Dean of Students thing is a good idea and as I talked to friends about it people person after person kept saying oh my gosh that's perfect for you. When I get my notice my old firm the partner I been working for started laughing and said Of course you are of course an expert. And so it was and I was working for a particular Dean makes schol who is now the president at the University of Oregon. And Mike really wanted as he put it. He liked the fact I downshifted from a law firm to higher ed and he really gave me a lot of runway and support to do a lot of things with community building and professionalism and leadership training that the university Chicago Law School hadn't done before. So he really enabled me to approach it from the standpoint of somebody who had been supervising junior associates and knew what they needed and the opportunity to see students learn and grow was really exciting and meaningful. And so I really liked that aspect in terms of when I decided to leave and deciding what I wanted to do next. It was a long process. [00:07:00] I won't bore you with but I had decided back in 2014 to leave and I stayed for two years after that. And so during that time I had met with a career coach had really I had the gift of being able to think about what I wanted to do and how I would do something that was aligned with my values. But that didn't have some of the drawbacks that I had seen as a dean of students because I had had offers to go to other schools and knew that that wasn't where I wanted to spend the next segment of my career. And I saw how valuable it was to work with a coach who didn't have her own agenda and who simply wanted me to figure out what I wanted and then helped me get there and as opposed to a mentor or even a significant other who often has their own slant or viewpoint on things. And I saw how valuable that was and realized how valuable that might have been. At other points in my career and especially as I started using coaching techniques students realized wait a minute. I really like this and this actually could be my career rather than just a segment of it. Jeena Cho: [00:08:11] Yeah. You know maybe we can spend a little bit time talking about you know working with a coach. I think it's not something that's necessarily familiar to lawyers. I I would go to college. I love working at a coach. You know how is working with a coach Lessie different than seeing a therapist like what's the role of a coach and why should a lawyer consider working with Coach Sure. Amy Gardner: [00:08:38] So it's different than working with a therapist in large part because coaching and agreements are set up to be short term. So for example you might sign on with a coach for 12 sessions and that isn't to say that you can do a second set or third set of sessions but it's generally focused on discrete issues so another difference is that with a therapist where and I say this not in any way as a dig against therapists and I have recommended therapy to many many former students and attorney friends over the years but in therapy often it can be more focused on looking at the past and looking backwards and understanding actions and issues and focused on more mental health issues like that that can be more pervasive versus in coaching. If somebody comes to me and says I need to learn how to have a better relationship with my boss we're going to look backwards a bit to understand how the relationship got to where it is but then we're going to be focused on the strategies going forward. [00:09:44] And it's going to be more focused on not looking at underlying issues I would never ask a client about what my relationship with your father teach you about this situation and things like that if there are deeper issues that I'm going to refer a client to a therapist because I have loads of counseling and coaching training but I'm not a therapist. And so there are times where I have clients who work with both a therapist and a coach. I have clients who have worked with a therapist who then has recommended that they work with the coach. So we're going to be more focused on how the client can move forward and address particular skills and the changes they want to make in life. So things like if you know you want to make partner figuring out what skills you need and then how you can get those skills versus getting into more mental health type issues it. Jeena Cho: [00:10:37] Can take a little bit about sort of the nitty gritty of how to be a better human. If he had a lawyer and I knew a thing that so many lawyers struggle with that is actually managing their time you know first time as one of our most important resources and most valuable resources and we only get fourteen hundred forty minutes a day and I think there's this expectation that if you just keep adding more things onto your to do less somehow it will magically get done and now that we're in this really all that mindful about what we put on that list is just more stuff gets piled on there and then we and then our entire goal is to just try to work through that to do less and we sort of measure how well we're doing by how many things we checked off our to do that. Now what are some things that lawyers can do to kind of stay on top of their time and manage their time better. Amy Gardner: [00:11:29] So it may sound counterintuitive but one thing that I found incredibly helpful is for lawyers to track their time and often lawyers say wait a minute I already have to record my time for my job. But what I found with my clients and in my own experience is that there are all these things you do during the day that aren't reflected in your time sheet. And those are things both at work and afterwork. And so what I recommend is tracking all of your time for a week and if you do that you'll figure out where those 4800 and 40 minutes a day are going and then you can use that information to evaluate am I investing my time the way that I want to and the way that I need to in order to achieve my goals and when I've done this for myself. I've often found that I am doing things that don't need to be done or I'm doing things that could be automated or delegated off of my To Do list. [00:12:25] And so you do lose that dogmeat head us crossing something off your to do list. But what you save is just a little bit of your energy for things that really matter rather than things that are getting you distracted. Jeena Cho: [00:12:38] Yeah that makes a lot of sense. You know when I was going through my career transition I was working with a coach and she kind of had me do something similar which was as I'm going through my day actually color. Could the calendars I use google calendar show you know when I look back if I the last hour that I spent if I really felt like at ease and if I really enjoy what I was doing I would be a different color. And then if I like really trended and hated what I was doing it be a different color. No it's really interesting to see after a week just seeing like you know where where these little pockets of time where I like really hated what I was doing and there I knew other pockets of time where I was really enjoying and feeling like I was you know experiencing that sense of flow and ease. [00:13:23] Now I was like OK like now I'm going to try to do more of coming of course like like can't be just all about you know the stuff that makes you happy and whatever the pleasure chasing. But it was a really interesting experiment to do and I think there's a lot of value in just seeing where your time goes and not sort of going through it mindlessly. Amy Gardner: [00:13:43] It's fascinating that there are all these studies that show that we overestimate in our minds how much we actually work during the week. And this can be really revealing to see OK maybe actually I'm not working as many hours as I think or maybe I'm not spending as many hours on housework and hoping that my significant other being an active part of the relationship as I thought maybe I'm not spending as much time with family members or friends as I thought. And for me sometimes as little things like when I've done this sometimes I've discovered that I waste a lot of time. If I start with e-mails in the morning and that's been really valuable to realize that I'm starting my day with other people's priorities and of course there are limits to how much you can ignore your email for the first hour of the day when you're a lawyer. But it can really lead to some useful insights about where your time is going and where you can find more of it. And like you said where you would like to be spending more time and what's making you happy. Jeena Cho: [00:14:41] Yeah. So do you not take your e-mails pacing in the morning. Amy Gardner: [00:14:45] So I try to not check my e-mail first thing in the morning but it's really hard. So my compromise is usually I just skim it to see if there's anything urgent and then I try to come back to it spend a couple hours getting concentrated work done and then come back to it a bit later because I've found that otherwise if I start off by replying to emails first thing in the morning my day goes down a path that may or may not be consistent with what I need to get done that day or want to go on holiday. [00:15:13] Often if you give things a few minutes rather than responding instantly a lot of things work themselves out. Jeena Cho: [00:15:19] Yeah that's true. Yeah that's one of the things that I struggle with all the time and I you know and especially when I teach mindfulness classes as one of the things that comes up really often lawyers as I tried to find a healthy relationship with your inbox and that there is anything like single or easy answers to that because I notice you know I also try not to check my e-mail friends in the morning but then I just have that anxiety around like what's that. And then when I do use the Internet you know usually there is like if there's nothing urgent then it's like okay great I can sort of go home at my day. [00:15:57] But if there is something that requires my attention that can end up derailing my day in a way that I wasn't anticipated in hindsight it's like that. Think how we could have waited until some other day to reach Antti but it's really hard not to kind of get sucked into the vortex of whatever it is. And bandsmen your inbox and I feel like as we kind of evolve and trying to figure out. Like what. Like what. No. And it really hasn't been that binds. So e-mail became such a crucial part of how we communicate and I think we're all sort of struggling to try to figure out like what does that balance look like. Amy Gardner: [00:16:40] And I think there's a big difference for me. So it's often a client emergency as a client just got an interview on very short notice and I need to help the client get ready for the interview. So it's not an emergency persay but it's you know it's something urgent. But obviously if you're practicing law there are times where I think they have an emergency that may or may not be an emergency. But then there are true emergencies. [00:17:04] But to the extent that you're just dealing with normal things that are you know the things that make up your day and you have something that is more critical. You have to figure out what works for you in the setting that you're in and with your clients and try to stick to it but it can be credibly difficult to do that. [00:17:25] You have a tool that you like to use for what your client's son BNA to track their time and see where you know they're spending how they're spending their time so we do. And if your listeners visit our Web site it's Apple chromatic dot com notably in the show notes. But if they go there and sign up for e-mail list and type in the word time to me I'm happy to send them a link so that they can download it for themselves. But it's just one page essentially where you log what you've done every day you do that and I recommend doing it on paper. We just found that there's something about the physical act of writing it down and if you use an app has made that on your phone then you can get sucked into the rabbit hole of all the other things going on on your phone. [00:18:12] So I recommend using paper and then once you log your time for the week and the second page of the download has an exercise you can do to tally up what categories of your life most of your time is going to and which I think that second step could be really instructive. I think the first step can help you see. Yikes. I actually spent half an hour today trying to figure out a perfect Spotify Running list and I only ran for 20 minutes anyway. And so that piece of it is really helpful for awareness but then that second step I think is really helpful to see whether you're spending your time in a way that's consistent with your priorities and your values. And of course every week is different. [00:18:53] All that but I really think it can be credibly valuable. Jeena Cho: [00:18:58] For the lawyers that are married and they have significant other you know people that they love and want to spend time. Like what's your suggestion for kind of carving out time for that person and really prioritizing it or you have like tools or shedded GS or actually cultivating those relationships that are meaningful and important to you. Amy Gardner: [00:19:24] Sure so I got married at the beginning of my 3L year in law school to my college boyfriend. So many many moons ago. We've had a lot of practice of this and one thing that has worked for us and that has worked for several of our clients is and bear with me because I know this is going to sound completely unromantic but it's a weekly calendar meeting and we really recommend that you set aside an hour where there are no distractions and you sit and talk with each other about your week ahead. And in the coming weeks. And the idea is that it gets you in touch with each other. It gets you in sync and it just helps minimize the chaos. Jeena Cho: [00:20:09] Yeah I really like that idea that anything there is all this expectation that your relationship should just work magically vanish. Amy Gardner: [00:20:19] If only if only that level of eight words. Jeena Cho: [00:20:22] Yeah. And sometimes you actually need a little bit of planning to be spontaneous rationing. Yeah. Amy Gardner: [00:20:31] We have a checklist that we go through to make sure that we had everything. And it really it makes a tremendous difference. Jeena Cho: [00:20:40] What is your checklist. Amy Gardner: [00:20:42] So we like to start with three things that we're grateful for from the previous week. And the idea is that that starts things off on a positive note and helps you share in those joys that you may not have had the chance to talk about yet. And then we focus on the week and weekend ahead. So who has what major commitments who will be home late one night of the week who will be swamped which days. Things like that. And then after we go through the week then we look over the next month to try to minimize big surprises. So who has a work trip coming up who has a big meeting to prepare for that's going to take a lot of her time. Any upcoming holidays or birthdays that you need to get a gift for. And then any upcoming trips or 3 day weekends that you might want to schedule something fun during and then we go on to meal planning for the upcoming week and make a grocery list and then go through duties. Who is going to get the drycleaning when it's ready on Wednesday. Who is cooking that week. And certainly for people who have children you'd want to go through and who's handling the soccer team snacks on Thursday. Things like that and what we found you know there's been a lot written lately about emotional labor and how that can end up divided in a relationship. [00:21:59] We found that having this meeting where we're both talking about all these issues has really helped make our marriage much more equal that I think it might be otherwise and it just helps you feel more like a teen because you're approaching the league with the United Front you with better communication and it just it increases the feeling of camaraderie when things don't go quite as planned. And for us it's really helped minimize the chaos. Jeena Cho: [00:22:25] Yeah yeah I can see how this would help to sort of reduce that cognitive overload that we can have a kind of like does running through all of these scenes that we have to keep in the back of my mind. It's like OK like I just have to keep running through that safe. Don't forget it. [00:22:40] But this actually kind of set its proper place in space so that you don't have to like constantly think about us and what the fear of forgetting is you know that I might do to pick up the dry cleaners or go pick up the milk or raid and I guess this kind of does heal nicely into and it's also like beginning of the year. It's a nice time to start to think about them and I don't even really like that word. New Year's resolution because I think it's just kind of has her baggage and kind of goes along with that. You know I think so I feel like we started off the beginning of the year with all the best intentions but you know eat or kale you get more exercise or whatever it is. Now of course by January were ready for gotten high resolution. [00:23:27] So suggestions or thoughts about how to sort of plan your goals so that you know you don't like immediately forget it or else it's just one of those things that kind of just add to that sense of burden and guilt. Amy Gardner: [00:23:44] Yeah. There's nothing actually magical about January 1st. And so I encourage people to give themselves Grace with January and think about goals you know year round because any day is an opportunity to start a new habit or to start working on a goal. One of my favorite resources for goal setting is this book by Michael Hiatt that came out in January of 2013 called best year ever. And so a lot of my thinking about goals has been really informed by my clients programs and books about goal setting. But one of the things that he recommends is we've all heard of SMART goals. He recommends the smarter goal framework which I really love and basically the idea is that your goal should be specific measurable and actionable. But instead of realistic like we normal talk normally talk about with smart goals he recommends that your goals be risky and the ideas that you give yourself the chance to rise to the challenge by setting goals that are going to stretch and challenge you. And so that's one piece that's a little different. And then he of course recommends a b time keyed then the the E.R. pert of smarter is E is for exciting and the idea is that it has to be something you feel inspired by because whether it's the thing itself or the thing that will result. So you may not be excited by the thought of paying off your student loans but the thought of the financial freedom you'll have afterwards might be the exciting piece for you. [00:25:13] And the idea is if you don't have something about the goal or the outcome that's exciting you're not going to follow through. And then he has a second R so that the smarter is relevant. And they're saying you know this goal has to align with my life my values and then my goals have to align with each other. So if you're a junior associate at a big firm you could have a goal to go from a couch potato to running a marathon in a year. And that might work for you but you're also trying to get home to new baby. Then you might just not have the hours that you'd need each week for the long runs to be able to run a marathon. So it might be that a goal of running a 5 K or a 10K might be more relevant to your life. And so the idea is that from the get go you're writing goals that are going to be achievable but also excite you and be relevant to your life. And so you're setting yourself up for more success just as you're writing your goals than another piece that so many people advise. And I've definitely seen in my own life and with my clients is the importance of writing your goals down and so you can have that frame of reference and so you don't just put them in the back of your mind. And also keeping your y front of mind. So it's when you reach the point that things are you're actually having to deliver on these goals and do the work to achieve them. Remembering your why is so vital to keep you going. I actually had a goal last year to finish my master's degree from Northwestern and public policy and administration. [00:26:54] And when I wrote out my Y in January it seemed so obvious why I wanted to finish my master's degree and the weekend that my final capstone paper was due. I actually went back to my wife to remember why am I doing this and and it and I was like okay I can get through three more days. [00:27:11] All right. It was really helpful for me. And then you know we also we often write down our goals and then set them aside and you know January 15th to remember what they were because we haven't kept them front of mind. But we also have a schedule time to work on them. So I encourage my clients to set aside some time whether it's every day or every weekend. When you're actually going to work on those goals. Yeah I didn't really know. Jeena Cho: [00:27:36] Yeah I think it's you know sometimes really counterintuitive but actually setting goals that I think there's this sense like if I you know set the goal to run a marathon then that's somehow better than you know running a 5 k. But I think sometimes it's actually more helpful to set like a fairly easily achievable goal because then you don't have that sense of discouragement. So by January or if you're not on track to run a marathon then you feel sure discouraging you start engaging in negative self taught. Like oh my guys are you again so going into it and then saying like you know what. I'm just going to you know walk or run specification potato. And that's like an easily achievable goal. And then you can sort of work your way up from there like I often talk to lawyers about you know meditation and then it's like I'm going to start meditating I'm going to do half an hour a day and I'm like No no no. [00:28:32] You know it's over like two minutes a day you know like honestly that it's just so many of these habits are really more about consistency rather than duration. Amy Gardner: [00:28:43] Absolutely. And I think that you know help letting yourself build momentum and get some easy wins can encourage you and keep you going. So you could do something if you your goal was to say run a 10k in November you could set a goal. I'm going to run a five K by April. And you know you give yourself that checkpoint so you can feel that sense of accomplishment and celebration and give yourself something that's more readily attainable as a stepping stone on your way to that bigger goal. Jeena Cho: [00:29:12] Yeah. Anything that feels like a nice place to pause in and if the list is out there that are interested in learning more about you or your services. Where should they go. Amy Gardner: [00:29:27] Sure so we'd love to have them visit epigrammatic dot com. It's a p o c h r and h t. K dot com. And again if you enter a time in the message on the sign up box to join our email list you'll automatically receive a download of a Time Tracker and that you can use to receive tracking your time helps you get more on top of it and find more time. Jeena Cho: [00:29:51] And we finally get to one more question. What does it mean to be a resilient lawyer to you? Amy Gardner: [00:30:00] So to me, being a resilient lawyer means hanging onto the reasons that you went to law school and keeping those in mind, even on the days when it can be very easy to forget. And then every day trying to be a little bit better than you'd been the day before. Jeena Cho: [00:30:17] Thank you so much for joining me today, I really appreciate it. Amy Gardner: [00:30:21] Thank you. Closing: [00:30:28] Thanks for joining us on The Resilient Lawyer podcast. If you've enjoyed the show, please tell a friend. It's really the best way to grow the show. To leave us a review on iTunes, search for The Resilient Lawyer and give us your honest feedback. It goes a long way to help with our visibility when you do that, so we really appreciate it. As always, we'd love to hear from you. E-mail us at smile@theanxiouslawyer.com. Thanks and look forward to seeing you next week.