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Die Berliner Zeitung, die Weltwoche und die NachDenkSeiten veröffentlichten im Zeitraum von Ende Mai bis Anfang Juni einen Offenen Brief des für kritische Analysen der internationalen Politik bekannten US-Ökonom Jeffrey D. Sachs an Bundeskanzler Merz. Mit dem zweiten Brief unterstreicht Sachs die absolut dringende Handlungsnotwendigkeit, einen immer wahrscheinlicher werdenden Krieg zwischen EU-Europa/europäischenWeiterlesen
Molly and Emese sit down with the iconic costume designer Molly Rogers—the creative force behind some of the most unforgettable wardrobes in television and film history. Rogers takes us inside her journey from working alongside Patricia Field in New York to helping define the looks of unforgettable characters like Carrie Bradshaw, Andy Sachs, and Miranda Priestly. She shares the real story behind Carrie's famous tutu, reveals the first piece she sourced for The Devil Wears Prada 2, and explains why great costume design is about much more than fashion—it's about storytelling. She also shares why bad taste can be important, how her personal style has evolved over the years, and what it truly means to build a character's world through clothing. And of course, we make her choose. Carrie's tutu or Andy's Chanel boots? A Sony Music Entertainment production. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts and follow us at @sonypodcasts To bring your brand to life in this podcast, email podcastadsales@sonymusic.com Mentioned in the Episode: Molly Rogers x Macy's Nili Lotan White T-Shirt Tibi Elbow Cut-Out Sweatshirt Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Your home insurance bill is not going up because of inflation. It is going up because of a risk that was mispriced for decades and is now coming due. Episode Sponsor Coalition for an Insurable Future Website: https://coalitionforaninsurablefuture.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/Coalition-For-An-Insurable-Future/61584013622275/ What You'll Learn in This Episode Why home insurance is up 74% since 2008 and is not coming back down How one weather event turns into a coverage gap, an un-mortgageable home, and a collapsing property value Why insurance companies are not the villain here and who actually is What happens when state-backed insurance plans run out of money Why one in seven homeowners now has zero insurance coverage What every homeowner should do right now to reduce their exposure Why renters are not off the hook from this crisis either Start Here Join the community built to help you master your money, stay accountable, and reach financial freedom.
On June 5, JWE president Helena Cobban sat down with the renowned economist and UN advisor Prof. Jeffrey Sachs to assess the impact of the U.S.-Israeli war against Iran, and the long-running Israeli genocide in Gaza on global governance and the global economy. In this convo Sachs was forthright in his denunciation of the stupidity of the Trump-Netanyahu decision to launch the war against Iran. He noted that while the war and the naval blockade that Washington set up around Iran's ports was inflicting mounting economic costs on most of the peoples of the world, a few bodies have been making super-profits off the war's continuation, including big U.S. oil companies and military production entities across the U.S. and Israel. He also shared several crucial observations about the currently poor state of the UN's effectiveness and the degree to which the body is hobbled by the actions of the U.S. president (as well as by Israel.)Listen to the whole of this super-informative conversation! It is the latest episode in Just World Ed's continuing series on the Iran Crisis. Find the multimedia records of this episode and all the others in this series at this Online Learning Hub on our website.Support the show
In this bonus episode, Morgan talks with Ellie Sachs, the writer, director, and star of "Lucy Schulman," which premieres at the Tribeca Film Festival. "Lucy Schulman" follows the titular Lucy as she navigates life after a recent break-up, finding herself moving back in with her eccentric single dad and maybe even dares to pursue love again. The film is a really thoughtful, funny, and reflective film, boasting some truly wonderful performances. The film premieres on Friday June 5th, with additional screenings on June 6th, 8th and 11th. For tickets, you can visit the Tribeca Film Festival website. And be on the lookout for a full review of the film later this week on the Female Gaze: The Film Club website!You can follow Female Gaze: The Film ClubInstagramBlueSkyWebsite
Howard Sachs joins Phil Seboa and Ed Fuentes to discuss how de-risking industrial technology, championing sovereign manufacturing, and first-principles leadership are shaping Australia's industrial future.Key topics in this episode:Why de-risking matters more than product specifications in industrial salesHow the Dulux Industry 4.0 project succeeded through collaboration and leadershipAustralia's sovereign manufacturing challenges and the COVID-19 vaccine pushPockets of innovation across traditionally conservative industriesWhy mentorship from every direction accelerates learningConnect with Howard on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hsachs/Connect with Phil on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/philseboa/Connect with Ed on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/edfuentes/Learn more about Universal Automation Solutions: https://universalsystems.com.au------
Krystal and Saagar discuss the US bombing Iran again, Jeffrey Sachs on WH economic lies, artists bail on Trump 250th event. Jeffrey Sachs: https://www.jeffsachs.org/ Brandon Weichert: https://x.com/WeTheBrandon?s=20 Cenk Uygur: https://www.youtube.com/theyoungturks To become a Breaking Points Premium Member and watch/listen to the show AD FREE, uncut and 1 hour early visit: www.breakingpoints.com Merch Store: https://shop.breakingpoints.com/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
The Big Picture Blueprint: Navigating Land, Real Estate, and Business Success
In this episode, we sit down with Brett Sachs to talk about the real work behind building a personal injury law firm that can grow without losing its values. Brett shares how watching his father put employees first shaped the way he sees leadership today. He also opens up about starting in an intake role, learning how cases come in, what makes them valuable, and why that “behind-the-scenes” experience became one of the biggest advantages when he built his own firm.We dive into the business side of law, from choosing the right cases and managing cash flow to hiring people who can handle both pressure and people with care. Brett explains why personal injury work is not just about settlements, but about helping clients who are often confused, hurt, and up against insurance companies with far more resources. He also shares how his firm grew by taking on cases others rejected, building trust through client communication, and staying focused on results without sacrificing the human side.Along the way, Brett gets honest about the mistakes that come with scaling. He talks about wasted marketing money, risky debt, hiring challenges, and the pressure to grow too fast. He also shares how AI, stronger systems, better budgeting, and a more careful growth model helped the firm become more stable. If you want to understand how a law firm owner thinks about leadership, operations, marketing, client care, and building a business with both discipline and heart, this episode gives a real look at what happens behind the scenes.===Key Topics:-Building a personal injury firm with both growth and client care-Learning case acquisition, intake, and operations before starting the firm-Taking on rejected cases and turning them into strong client outcomes-Managing cash flow, payroll, hiring, and debt while scaling-Using SEO, Google ads, Meta, and AI search to compete with bigger firms===If you're selling land and still relying on Facebook messages, you're making it harder than it needs to be. Acrefy helps land investors create clean, professional dispo websites where buyers can see everything in one place. It saves time, looks legit, and helps you close faster.
Pour yourself a rosé and join Carl, Kevin and not Eitan at the virtual Hôtel du Cap to discuss the 2026 Cannes Film Festival.
As geopolitical tensions rise and sustainability faces growing scrutiny, some long term investors are doubling down instead of pulling back. In this live episode of Sustainable Edge, Siri Sachs of the Wallenberg ecosystem and Johan H. Andresen of FERD explore how resilience, competitiveness, ethics, and sustainability shape investment decisions in a world where uncertainty has become the new normal.In this episodeSiri Sachs and Johan H. Andresen share how family ownership structures can enable long term thinking and why sustainability remains deeply tied to resilience and competitiveness, even in a more fragmented global landscape.Learn about:Long term investing in uncertain times Why some investors continue backing large scale green transitions despite market volatility and political uncertaintySustainability and competitiveness How climate investments are increasingly viewed as essential for future industrial strength and resilienceRisk taking and transformation: Why family owned businesses can take longer term bets that public markets often avoidPurpose beyond profit: How responsibility, social impact, and ethics influence investment decisions and talent attractionEngagement versus exclusion: Why active ownership and supplier engagement can sometimes drive more meaningful change than divestmentAI and ethical leadership: How investors are thinking about the opportunities and risks tied to artificial intelligence and autonomous systemsRegulation and execution: Why predictable frameworks matter, but overregulation can risk slowing competitiveness and innovationThe future of Nordic leadership: How collaboration, trust, and long term ownership models could help shape a more sustainable economyAbout Siri SachsSiri Sachs is a Board Member at Wallenberg Investments and part of the sixth generation of the Wallenberg family. The Wallenberg ecosystem includes foundations, industrial holdings, and global companies such as ABB, AstraZeneca, Ericsson, and SEB. Her work focuses on long term ownership, competitiveness, and ensuring that investments contribute to future resilience and innovation.About Johan H. AndresenJohan H. Andresen is the Owner and Chair of FERD, a family owned investment company focused on long term value creation and social impact. Under his leadership, FERD transformed from a tobacco business into a diversified investment platform with holdings across industry, technology, and sustainability focused ventures. Johan has also chaired the Ethics Council of Norway's sovereign wealth fund, helping shape ethical investment practices for one of the world's largest funds.
durée : 01:28:55 - par : Laurent Valière - Auteur, comédien, metteur en scène Alain Sachs a reçu plusieurs Molière pour le spectacle "Le Quatuor" qu'il a suivi durant 25 ans. Il a aussi reçu le Molière du meilleur metteur en scène pour "Le Passe Muraille", la première comédie musicale sur scène de Michel Legrand en 1996. - réalisation : Céline Parfenoff, Martine Mony - invités : Alain Sachs Metteur en scène Vous aimez ce podcast ? Pour écouter tous les épisodes sans limite, rendez-vous sur Radio France
It's Chit Chat Wednesday with Financial expert Haley Sachs of Mrs. Dow Jones, who wrote a new book, Future Rich Person! The two talk
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Tony and Derek get together to discuss Sachs & Violens #1-4 for #CrimeComicsMonth!
Identity is at the center of nearly every modern breach, but when IAM responsibilities are shared with MSSPs, where does trust end and accountability begin? In this episode of CISO Stories, Jessica Hoffman sits down with Dr. Dustin Sachs to explore the human side of identity and access management, including cognitive bias, automation, privilege creep, and the hidden risks of "blind trust" in real-world security operations. Visit https://cisostoriespodcast.com for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://cisostoriespodcast.com/csp-224
A little over two years ago, on April 15, 2024, David Sachs of Ottawa's Jewish Federation was leaving an interfaith iftar event near Parliament Hill. He was wearing a kippah. Outside the government building, anti-Israel protesters were waiting. In his victim impact statement earlier this week, Sachs told the court he feared for his life during those “absolutely horrific” moments when he was swarmed, hit on the head, screamed at with anti-Israel insults, then followed for four blocks as he tried to escape, all while a dangerously loud electronic whistle was blasted near his ears. Everyone in the crowd wore masks except well-known Ottawa protester Deana Sherif, who wore a keffiyeh and brandished the whistle. Ottawa police later arrested Sherif and charged her with eight offences, including resisting a police officer and two hate-motivated charges. Some stemmed from another confrontation that same day involving Conservative MP Brad Vis of British Columbia, who was trying to go the gym. Her trial ended in February. Sherif was convicted on two of the original charges. The Crown did not concentrate on the hate-motivated allegations at trial, even though the judge agreed some of the shouted insults were antisemitic, but found Sherif herself was not the person making them. On May 6, the judge sentenced her to the 17 months she had already spent in custody, plus one year probation, a peace bond, and a decade-long ban on using the loud whistle or possessing other weapons. On this episode of The CJN's “North Star” podcast, David Sachs explains why he believes the convictions were significant — but also why he feels the outcome fell short without hate-related findings. We also hear from University of Ottawa antisemitism adviser Jonathan Calof, who warns anti-Jewish hatred in Canada is no longer confined to street protests, but is becoming institutionalized. Related links How twice-convicted Ottawa protester Deana Sherif played a role in organizing and promoting the 2026 Al-Quds Day parade and rally in Toronto, in The CJN . Learn more about Prof. Jonathan Calof, the special advisor on antisemitism appointed by Ottawa University in early 2025, Read David Sachs' comments after an Ottawa man pleaded guilty in Feb. 2025 to sending hateful messages to local physician Dr. Nili Kaplan-Myrth in Feb. 2025, in The CJN. **** Credits Host and writer: Ellin Bessner ( @ebessner ) Production team: Zachary Kauffman (senior producer), Izzie Helenchilde (producer), Michael Fraiman (executive producer), Alicia Richler (editorial director) Music: Bret Higgins Support our show Subscribe to The CJN newsletter Donate to The CJN (+ get a charitable tax receipt) Subscribe to North Star (Not sure how? Click here ) Watch our podcasts on YouTube. Help others find this podcast by leaving us a review for “North Star” on Apple Podcasts via your iPhone or iPad device, or with your Android. (Spotify allows only starred ratings but you can do that, too!)
The BIG Question
You need to listen to this self-titled album from Mynd Reader. It is an amazing story set to incredible music. I know you'll love the album and I think you'll also love my conversation with Brian Sachs (founder of Mynd Reader).In addition to talking about the album, we also sip on some pours from Leopold Bros. Deerhammer, and Nulu Spirits.Be sure to follow Mynd Reader on all social media and listen to them wherever you stream music.
Hércules se enfrentó a las pruebas del rey Euristeo y Andrea Sachs tuvo que someterse a las de Miranda Priestly. El estreno de la segunda parte de El Diablo Se Viste De Prada inspira la sección de Espido Freire en Cuerpos especiales, que demuestra con su análisis que los culturetas pueden ver la primera parte sin censura.
Deb Sachs, Director of Net Zero Vermont and Project Manager of the Walk to Shop program, returns to discuss sustainable transit. Discover how modern shopping trolleys are helping Burlington reach its Net Zero Energy goals by replacing short car trips with active walking. Learn about the "Show Me Your Steps" coffee campaign launching this May, offering incentives for residents to track their progress. This episode highlights the environmental, health, and social benefits of walkable communities while encouraging everyone to get outside today and participate.
What if the way you get dressed every day is shaping more than your appearance? In this episode of Question Everything, Danielle speaks with celebrity stylist Erin Walsh, known for shaping the iconic looks of Anne Hathaway, to explore the deeper psychology of style, identity, and intentional living. From styling Selena Gomez, Sarah Jessica Parker and more, to her full-circle connection to The Devil Wears Prada and her new book The Art of Intention, Erin reveals why getting dressed is more than fashion. It's a daily practice of self-definition. If you’ve ever wondered how to become the person you’re meant to be, this conversation reframes transformation as something you choose—one decision at a time. In this episode you’ll also learn: Erin’s full-circle journey: from working at Vogue to becoming a The Devil Wears Prada fan, to styling Anne Hathaway on the The Devil Wears Prada 2 press tour What Erin has learned about fashion and pop culture from styling celebrities like Selena Gomez, Kerry Washington, and Sarah Jessica Parker The rise of “method dressing” and storytelling through red carpet fashion Why Erin believes “what should I wear?” is the wrong question, and what to ask instead The concept of intentional dressing and how it impacts confidence, identity, and performance The biggest lesson Erin learned from working at Vogue How to use fashion as a form of self-therapy and emotional regulation The “3-word method” to define how you want to feel each day Why most people disconnect from their personal style, and how to rebuild that connection The difference between dressing for the event vs. dressing for yourself Why criticism (and even harsh feedback) can be a creative advantage How small daily choices compound into major life direction shifts The role of intention in manifestation, success, and personal growth How many times a year you should be cleaning out your closet Why your closet might be holding you back, and how to turn it into a “portal of possibility” A new definition of transformation: becoming the you you were meant to be Make sure to check out Erin’s book The Art of Intentional Dressing here Follow Erin’s journey on InstagramSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
#pubquiz #trivia #quiz #generalknowledge #questions #bartrivia #answers #weeklytrivia #questionsandanswers #DevilWearsPradaHello Quizheads! Welcome to Takeaway Trivia, your weekly pub quiz in a podcast.Four rounds of bar trivia in the comfort of your own home. No queuing for your beer, no sticky tables and no one heckling the answers. Play the quiz however you like. Get your gang together and play like a true trivia night or entertain yourself while you zoom to the moon.This week's rounds:>4:20: General Knowledge>8:05: Lyrically Speaking>15:50: Clued Up>23:00: The End of the Quiz QuizCONTACT TAT> Facebook> Bluesky> Ko-fiWe make every effort to check that the trivia is correct at the time of publishing however, the contents of this podcast are presented for entertainment purposes only. Takeaway Trivia cannot be held responsible for any errors. Please get in touch if you think we've got it wrong to win the ultimate pedant's prize - a shout out in the Correction Section!Takeaway Trivia is available wherever you download podcasts including Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music and Audible. It's also available on Youtube New episode every Monday!Music:"There It Is" by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)"Life of Riley" by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)"Carpe Diem" by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)"Easy Lemon" by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)"Big Mojo" by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
This week we are re-releasing a Substack Live from our Breaker community! Mayim and Jonathan are joined by Nicole Sachs, LCSW, a renowned psychotherapist, author, and speaker who has become an internationally recognized pioneer in the field of mind-body medicine. As the architect of the “JournalSpeak” method and host of The Cure for Chronic Pain podcast, Sachs has dedicated her career to treating patients suffering from chronic pain, autoimmune conditions, and fatigue by addressing the underlying emotional components of physical symptoms. Nicole explains that our brains often use physical pain as a “protective” distraction to keep us from feeling overwhelming emotions like rage, shame, or grief. Think of it like an emotional reservoir—when it gets too full, the pressure has to go somewhere, and often, it manifests as a backache, a migraine, or digestive issues. Nicole's story is as relatable as it is miraculous. After a year of being so locked up in pain that she couldn't even put her toddlers in their car seats, she had a spiritual and psychological breakthrough. By getting brutally honest with herself through a specific type of journaling, her chronic back pain was 80% gone by the next morning. Nicole breaks down her healing method into three simple parts that anyone can start today: - Knowledge: Understanding that your brain and body are constantly communicating. - The Work (Journal Speak): A specific, 20-minute daily practice of “unbridled rants” to get the hidden stress out of your system. - Self-Compassion: Learning to change the way you talk to yourself to help your nervous system feel safe. This approach has helped people struggling with fibromyalgia, IBS, migraines, anxiety, PTSD and addiction. As Nicole puts it, pain isn't a “broken” part of you—it's information. Once you learn how to listen to what your body is trying to say, the possibilities for your life are endless. Learn more about Nicole Sachs and her coaching: www.nicolesachs.com Nicole Sachs' Book, Mind Your Body: https://www.yourbreakawake.com/book Nicole Sachs' Podcast, The Cure for Chronic Pain: https://www.yourbreakawake.com/podcasts/the-cure-for-chronic-pain-with-nicole-sachs-lcsw-2 Nicole Sachs' Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nicolesachslcsw/ Follow us on Substack for Exclusive Bonus Content: https://bialikbreakdown.substack.com/ BialikBreakdown.com YouTube.com/mayimbialik Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
This week we are re-releasing a Substack Live from our Breaker community! Mayim and Jonathan are joined by Nicole Sachs, LCSW, a renowned psychotherapist, author, and speaker who has become an internationally recognized pioneer in the field of mind-body medicine. As the architect of the “JournalSpeak” method and host of The Cure for Chronic Pain podcast, Sachs has dedicated her career to treating patients suffering from chronic pain, autoimmune conditions, and fatigue by addressing the underlying emotional components of physical symptoms. Nicole explains that our brains often use physical pain as a “protective” distraction to keep us from feeling overwhelming emotions like rage, shame, or grief. Think of it like an emotional reservoir—when it gets too full, the pressure has to go somewhere, and often, it manifests as a backache, a migraine, or digestive issues. Nicole's story is as relatable as it is miraculous. After a year of being so locked up in pain that she couldn't even put her toddlers in their car seats, she had a spiritual and psychological breakthrough. By getting brutally honest with herself through a specific type of journaling, her chronic back pain was 80% gone by the next morning. Nicole breaks down her healing method into three simple parts that anyone can start today: - Knowledge: Understanding that your brain and body are constantly communicating. - The Work (Journal Speak): A specific, 20-minute daily practice of “unbridled rants” to get the hidden stress out of your system. - Self-Compassion: Learning to change the way you talk to yourself to help your nervous system feel safe. This approach has helped people struggling with fibromyalgia, IBS, migraines, anxiety, PTSD and addiction. As Nicole puts it, pain isn't a “broken” part of you—it's information. Once you learn how to listen to what your body is trying to say, the possibilities for your life are endless. Learn more about Nicole Sachs and her coaching: www.nicolesachs.com Nicole Sachs' Book, Mind Your Body: https://www.yourbreakawake.com/book Nicole Sachs' Podcast, The Cure for Chronic Pain: https://www.yourbreakawake.com/podcasts/the-cure-for-chronic-pain-with-nicole-sachs-lcsw-2 Nicole Sachs' Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nicolesachslcsw/ Follow us on Substack for Exclusive Bonus Content: https://bialikbreakdown.substack.com/ BialikBreakdown.com YouTube.com/mayimbialik Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Hi there! Feel free to drop us a text if you enjoy the episode.Richard Sachs is one of the most respected names in American cycling craft, but this conversation goes far beyond framebuilding.In this episode of the New England Endurance Podcast, Richard joins Art Trapotsis for a wide-ranging conversation about his journey from New Jersey to England to Connecticut, the founding of his company in the 70's, and the deeper meaning that has kept him building bicycles by hand for more than five decades.They talk about what truly drives his work at the bench as a bicycle frame builder, why he has stayed committed to traditional steel bicycles, and how he sees the difference between something that is manufactured and something that is genuinely made. Richard also reflects on the beauty that first drew him into cycling, the European racing culture that shaped his imagination, and the philosophy behind building a bicycle that feels right for a specific rider.The conversation also explores Richard's enormous impact on New England cycling culture through the Connecticut Yankee Bicycle Club (CYBC), the Richard Sachs cyclocross team (RSCX), and his continued support of grassroots racing through Project Mayhem. Along the way, he shares candid thoughts on rider development, community, sponsorship, the changing culture of the sport, and what he hopes people take from his life's work.This is a thoughtful and honest conversation about craft, legacy, racing, and doing meaningful work on your own terms.This podcast embarks on a journey to showcase and celebrate the endurance sports community in New England.
For all those who missed out on London, see you in Miami next week!Notion, the knowledge work decacorn, has been building AI tooling since before ChatGPT, with many hits from Q&A in 2023 and unified AI in 2024 and Meeting Notes in 2025. At the end of their last Make user conference, Ryan Nystrom teased Notion 3.0's Custom Agents - and they are finally embracing the Agent Lab playbook!Sarah Sachs and Simon Last of Notion join us for a deep dive into how Notion built Custom Agents, why it took years and multiple rebuilds to get right, and what it means to turn a productivity tool into an agent-native system of record for enterprise work.We go inside the product, engineering, evals, pricing, and org design decisions behind one of the most ambitious AI product efforts in software today — from early failed tool-calling experiments in 2022 to agent harnesses, progressive tool disclosure, meeting notes as data capture, and the long-term vision for software factories and agentic work.We discuss:* Sarah and Simon's path to launching Notion Custom Agents, and why the feature was rebuilt four or five times before it was ready for production* Why early agent attempts failed: no tool-calling standard, short context windows, unreliable models, and too much complexity exposed to the model* The “Agent Lab” thesis: not just wrapping a model, but understanding how people collaborate and building the right product system around frontier capabilities* How Notion thinks about roadmap timing: not swimming upstream against model limitations, but also building early enough that the product is ready when the models are* Why coding agents feel like the kernel of AGI, and how Notion is thinking about “software factories” made up of agents that spec, code, test, debug, review, and maintain codebases together* How Sarah runs AI engineering at Notion (“notes from Token Town”): objective-setting over idea ownership, low-ego teams comfortable deleting their own work, and a culture designed to swarm around fast-changing opportunities* The “Simon Vortex,” company hackathons, and why security gets pulled in early rather than late* How Notion organizes AI: core AI capabilities and infrastructure, product packaging teams, and a broader company mandate that every product surface must increasingly work for both humans and agents* Why prototypes have become much easier to build internally, and how “demos over memos” changes product development inside a tool the whole company already uses every day* Notion's eval philosophy: regression tests, launch-quality evals, and “frontier/headroom” evals that intentionally only pass ~30% of the time so the company can see where model capabilities are going* What a “Model Behavior Engineer” is, and why Notion treats eval writing, failure analysis, and model understanding as a distinct function rather than just software engineering* The changing role of software engineers in the age of coding agents, and why the new job looks less like typing code and more like supervising a rigorous outer system of agents, PRs, and verification loops* How the “software factory” should work: specs, self-verification, bug flows, subagents, and minimizing human intervention while preserving the invariants that matter* A live walkthrough of a Notion Custom Agent handling coworking space tenant applications by triaging email, enriching applicants with web search, and writing structured data into a Notion database* How agents compose inside Notion: shared databases as primitives, agents invoking other agents, “manager agents” supervising dozens of specialized agents, and memory implemented simply as pages and databases* Notion's take on MCP vs CLI: why Simon is bullish on CLI's self-debugging nature, where MCP still makes sense, and how Sarah thinks about capability, determinism, permissioning, and pricing alignment* The evolution of Notion's internal agent harness: from early JavaScript coding agents, to custom XML, to Markdown and SQL-like abstractions, to tool definitions, progressive disclosure, and a much shorter system prompt* Why Notion cares about teaching “the top of the class,” building for sophisticated operators rather than abstracting away too much capability for everyone* How agent setup works today: agents that can configure themselves, inspect their own failures, and edit their own instructions — with guardrails around permissions* How Notion prices Custom Agents: credits as an abstraction over tokens, model type, serving tier, web search, and future sandbox costs; why usage-based pricing was necessary; and how “auto” tries to match the right model to the right task* Why Notion is not eager to train a foundation model, where they do fine-tune and optimize today, and why retrieval/ranking is one of the most important investment areas as more searches come from agents rather than humans* Why Meeting Notes became one of Notion's strongest growth loops: not just as transcription, but as high-signal data capture that powers search, custom agents, follow-up workflows, and the broader system of record for company collaboration* Why Notion is more interested in being the place where collaboration data lives than in building hardware themselves — and how wearables or other capture devices may eventually feed into that systemSarah SachsLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahmsachsX: https://x.com/sarahmsachsSimon LastLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/simon-last-41404140X: https://x.com/simonlastFull Video EpisodeTimestamps* 00:00:00 Introduction and launching Notion Custom Agents* 00:01:17 Why Notion rebuilt agents four or five times* 00:03:35 Building for where models are going, not just where they are* 00:05:32 The Agent Lab thesis, wrappers, and product intuition* 00:08:07 User journeys, leadership, and low-ego AI teams* 00:13:16 The Simon Vortex, hackathons, and bringing security in early* 00:16:39 Team structure, demos over memos, and building for agents* 00:20:25 Evals, Notion's Last Exam, and the Model Behavior Engineer role* 00:27:37 Evals as an agent harness and the changing role of software engineers* 00:30:42 The software factory: specs, verification, and agent workflows* 00:32:18 Live demo: a custom agent for coworking space applications* 00:35:08 Composing agents, manager agents, and memory as pages* 00:38:15 Notion Mail, Gmail, native integrations, and tools* 00:39:43 MCP vs CLI and the cost of capability* 00:44:13 When Notion uses MCP vs building its own integrations* 00:47:43 The history of Notion's agent harness rebuilds* 00:55:35 Power users, public tools, and the setup agent* 00:58:01 Self-fixing agents, permissions, and “flippy”* 01:01:13 Pricing, credits, and choosing the right model automatically* 01:09:01 Why Notion isn't training its own frontier model* 01:14:07 Retrieval, ranking, and search built for agents* 01:17:27 Meeting Notes as data capture and workflow automation* 01:21:18 Wearables, hardware, and Notion as the system of record* 01:23:45 OutroTranscript[00:00:00] Alessio: Hey everyone. Welcome to the Latent Space podcast. This is Alessio founder of Kernel Labs and I'm joined by swyx, editor of the Latent Space.[00:00:11] swyx: Hello. Hello. We're back in the beautiful studio that, uh, Alessio has set up for us with Simon and Sarah from Notion. Welcome.[00:00:18] Sarah Sachs: Thanks for having us.[00:00:19] Alessio: Thanks for having us. Yeah.[00:00:20] swyx: Congrats on the launch recently the custom agents, finally it's here. How's it feel?[00:00:26] Sarah Sachs: We ship things slowly. So it had been in Alpha for a little bit and at the point at which is it's an alpha, um, there's a group of people that are making sure it's ready for prod, and then there's a group of people working on the next thing.So sometimes some of these launches are a bit delayed satisfaction, so it's quite nice to remind yourself all the work you did because we do have a habit of like. Being two or three milestones ahead. Uh, just ‘cause you have to be, you know, you can't get complacent. Um, but it's been great that people understood how this is helpful.And I think that's just easier in general building AI tools today than it was two, three years ago. People kind of get it and so that user education, um, there's just, it was our most successful launch in terms of free trials and converting people and things like that. It was really successful, so yeah.But there's a lot to build.[00:01:12] swyx: Making it free for three months helps.[00:01:16] Sarah Sachs: Yep.[00:01:17] Simon Last: It was definitely super exciting for me because it's probably the fourth or fifth time that we rebuilt that.[00:01:22] swyx: Yes.[00:01:23] Simon Last: And I mean,[00:01:24] swyx: you've been building this since like 20, 22.[00:01:26] Simon Last: Yeah, I mean, like, it was even right when we got access to like GPT four in late 20 22, 1 of the first ideas we had is like, oh, okay, let's make an agent that I, we used the word assistant at the time, there wasn't really the word, the word agent yet, but, oh, we'll give an access to all the tools the notion can do, and then it, we run in the background like, like do work for us.And then we just tried that many times and it just. Was too early. Um,[00:01:48] swyx: I need to force you to like double click on that. What is too early? What didn't work?[00:01:52] Sarah Sachs: We were fine to, like, before function calling came out. We were trying to fine tune with the Frontier Labs and with fireworks, like a function calling model on notion functions.This is right when I joined. I joined because, um, we needed a manager as Simon was needed to be able to go on vacation. So, uh, that's, that's around when I joined, so you can speak much more to it.[00:02:11] Simon Last: Yeah, we did partnerships with both philanthropic and open AI at different times, uh, to try to, at the time the, I mean, when we first tried, there wasn't even a constant of like tools yet.We, we sort of designed our own like, like tool calling framework and then we tried to fine tune the models to, uh, to use it over multiple turns. Um, and because it, it didn't work well out the box, I think. Yeah. The models are just too dumb and the context thing was also way too short.[00:02:37] Alsesio: Yeah.[00:02:37] Simon Last: Um, and yeah, we just kind of banged our head against it for a long time.Uh, unfortunately it was always like, there was always like sort of. Glimmers that it was working, but um, it never felt quite robust enough to be like a useful, delightful thing. Um, until I would say, uh, the big unlock was probably like Sonic 3.6 or seven, uh, early last year. And that's when we started working on our agent, which we shipped last year.Um, and then, and then uh, uh, custom agents, kinda a similar capability and that, that one just took longer because we, we just wanted to get the reliability up a lot higher. ‘cause it's actually running in the background.[00:03:14] Sarah Sachs: And the product interface of like permissions and understanding, you know, this custom agent is shared in a Slack channel with X group of people and has access to documents that are surfaced to Y group of people.And the intersect experts, Y might not be whole. And so how do you build the product around making sure administrators understand that permissioning took multiple swings.[00:03:35] Alsesio: Everything is hard back at the end of the day. Yeah. I'm curious, like when the models are not working, how do you inform the product roadmap of like, okay, we should probably build, expecting the models to be better at some reasonable pace, but at the same time we need to, you know, you had a lot of customers in 2022.It's not like you were a new company or like no user base.[00:03:54] Simon Last: Yeah, I mean I think there's always the balance of, you know, like you want to be a GI pilled and thinking ahead and building for where things are going. Uh, but also you wanna be like shipping useful things. And so we always try to like, like keep a balance there.You know, we. We try to take clear, like a portfolio approach. You know, we're always working on multiple projects and, and we're always trying to work on, you know, maintaining things where that have already shipped, like, like shipping new things that are like eminently working well and make them really good.And, and then we wanna always have a few projects that are a little bit crazy. Um,[00:04:23] Alsesio: and what are the a GI peel projects that you have today? I'm curious about, uh, you don't have to share exactly what you're working on, but I'm curious what are things today that maybe in 18 months people will be like, oh, obviously this was gonna work[00:04:35] Sarah Sachs: 18 months.[00:04:37] Alsesio: Yeah, 18 months is, you know,[00:04:37] Sarah Sachs: it's a long time and Yeah. Yeah.[00:04:39] Simon Last: I mean, there's a number of things happening. I think one thing that's becoming more clear is I think like, like, uh, coding agents are the kernel of EGI, sort of, everything is a coding agent. Mm-hmm. I think that's, that's sort of one, one direction.Um, and then, yeah, the exciting thing about that is sort of your agent can sort of bootstrap its own software and capabilities and actually debug and maintain them. And so yeah, we're, we're, we're thinking a lot about that. And then, yeah, like, like another category of things that I'm, I'm really excited about is like, uh, we call the software factory also.People are using this, uh, this, this sort of word. Um, basically it just means can you create sort of like a, as automated as possible, a workflow for developing debugging. Mm-hmm. Merging, reviewing, and maintaining a code base and a service where there's a bunch of agents working together inside, and like, like how does that work?[00:05:28] Sarah Sachs: If you think back to your initial question, like, why did this take so long? I think something,[00:05:32] swyx: I didn't say that, but Yes. Okay. Go ahead.[00:05:34] Sarah Sachs: Why, what, what changed over the three and half years of trying[00:05:37] swyx: it? Exactly. Right. Because most people always say like, it didn't work yet. Then reasoning models came, then it worked.I was like, okay, let's go a little[00:05:43] Sarah Sachs: bit. That's, I mean, that's part of it, but I think the other part of it that I actually think is really what will set notion apart for every new capability is we have like. Two skills that are crucial when it comes to frontier capabilities. One is not letting yourself swim upstream.So like quickly realizing if you're just pressing against model capabilities versus not exposing the model to the right information, not having the right infrastructure set up. That and of itself is the skill of intuition. And the second is to see, okay, you're not swimming upstream. Which direction is the river flowing and what is like, how do we think ahead about the product and start building it even if it's not great yet, so that when it is there, we're ready for it.Right? And like those can sometimes feel like counterintuitive things. Like we can be trying to fine tune a tool calling model when they don't exist yet. And that the trick is to not do that for too long, but realize that there was something there. And we've had a lot of things which like, um, we're just like not swimming in the right direction with the streams.I think we had multiple versions of transcription before we got meeting notes, right? Oh, I gotta talk[00:06:39] swyx: about that. Yeah.[00:06:40] Sarah Sachs: Yeah. Um, and so. I, I, I think that like we, we really closely partner with the Frontier Labs on capabilities and we also have to have strong conviction on, as those capabilities move.Notion is about being the best place for you to collaborate and do your work. And how does that narrative change if the way that we work changes?Yeah.[00:06:58] swyx: Yeah. You told me you were a fan of the Agent Lab thesis, and this is, this is kind of it, right?[00:07:02] Sarah Sachs: Right. I show that thesis to so many candidates. Like I have it as like micro chrome autofill.Um, at this point, like it's one of my most visitations[00:07:10] swyx: because like, is this the, here's why you should work in notion and not open, open eye. I, it's like,[00:07:14] Sarah Sachs: here's, here's what's different about it.[00:07:16] swyx: Yeah.[00:07:16] Sarah Sachs: And here's why. It's not just a rapper. I actually think more and more people understand it's not just a wrapper.[00:07:21] swyx: Yeah.[00:07:22] Sarah Sachs: Um, and by the way, like in the beginning, parts of what we build are wrappers on functionality. That works well, of course, but that's not really the most, um. I would say that's not the product that, that drives revenue. And that's not necessarily always what users need.[00:07:35] swyx: I mean, you know, notion is the AWS wrapper, but like the, the wrapper is very beautiful and like very, very well polished.So[00:07:40] Sarah Sachs: like the analogy,[00:07:41] swyx: like[00:07:42] Sarah Sachs: the analogy that I've been coming back to his Datadog in AWS[00:07:45] swyx: Yeah.[00:07:46] Sarah Sachs: So, uh, Datadog could not exist with, without cloud storage. Right. That it's kind of fundamental that that works. Um, and AWS has like a CloudWatch product, but Datadog is an expert on understanding how people want observability on the products they launch.And we're experts in understanding how people wanna collaborate, and that's really where our expertise lies.[00:08:04] swyx: Totally.[00:08:04] Sarah Sachs: Um, regardless of the tools that we use,[00:08:07] Alsesio: I'm kind of curious how you think about implicit versus explicit expertise. I feel like Datadog is half and half implicit and explicit. It's like they understand across markets and industries what engineering teams usually look for.With notion, it's almost like more of the expertise is at the edge because you as a platform, you're like so horizontal that the end user is not really the same. Mm-hmm. Like with Datadog, the end user is always like, yeah, an engineering lead, a kinda like SRE related person with notion. It can be anything.So I'm curious how you put that expertise into a product versus, you know, obviously it, WS cannot build notion. It's, that doesn't quite work in this case, but[00:08:44] Simon Last: it's, it's a little bit differently shaped. I think, you know, a classic vertical SaaS, like the data is kind of like that. They understand their individual customer very deeply.It's kinda a narrow slice, um, notion has always been super horizontal. And our, our task has always been to sort of balance these two somewhat opposing forces of like, we're listening to our customers and what they want us to build. It's a broad slice. And then also we're thinking about like, okay, how do we decompose what they want into, uh, nice primitives that are, that are really nice to use and we'll, we'll get us like as much bang for the buck as possible.And then, you know. Maintain the whole system, make it all like, like super clean and nice to use.[00:09:22] Sarah Sachs: We still have user journeys. I mean, we still focus on like core. I actually think the failure of our team is when we focus too much on what are cools that are, what are tools that are[00:09:31] Simon Last: mm-hmm.[00:09:31] Sarah Sachs: Cool tools. I actually think that's when we make have the least velocity because you still need some sort of focus on a user journey.So like for instance, we'll all sit down every Friday and look at the P 99 of like the most token exhaustive custom agent transcript and just look at why it didn't do well and cut a bunch of tasks. Like we still focus on like, this has, like this should work. Email triaging should work. Mm-hmm. Right. And similarly, like when we're talking about before building, um, chatting, um, before we started filming about, okay, how can I do PDF export?Well that's functionality that then merits. Maybe we should build a tool that has access to a computer sandbox in a file system and the ability to write code. Right? Right. Um, but it's because we're thinking about the fact that our users to do their, to do their daily work, need to export PDFs, not because we're like, Hmm, I think a computer tool could be cool.Like, let's just see what happens. Mm-hmm. Like we, we have to focus on some user journeys, otherwise we just don't have like, enough strategy to, to prioritize.[00:10:29] swyx: I think there's a lot of like really strong opinions that you've had. Do you have like sort of like a towel of Sarah Sachs? Like, you know, like what, how do you run your team?Like I feel like you just have accumulated all these strong opinions. Obviously part, part of this is your, your token town thing.[00:10:43] Sarah Sachs: I think the TAs working with Service X is, um, you'd have to, it depends who you ask. Um, I think it depends if you're on my team or a partner Right. Or a vendor.[00:10:54] swyx: Yeah. There other people want to run their teams the way that you're Yeah.You're like bringing these things. And then also similarly, uh, Simon, when you did the custom agents demo, you had like, well, we've been using custom agents and here's the super long list of everything that we do. No humans ever read it. Right? That's what you said. I was like,[00:11:07] Sarah Sachs: yeah. So I think for, for me, um, something that I learned very quickly and became very comfortable with was that my job was not to be the ideas per person or the technical expert.My job was to make it so that everybody understood the objective, had a resource to help prioritize what they should work on, and had an avenue to prioritize what they thought was important. And I think that's true with all, all leadership, but I think especially on the AI team. Almost all of our best ideas come from prototypes, from people that have a cool idea because they saw a user problem, and it's a huge disservice if all of those ideas have to pass, like the sniff test of what me and a product partner or Simon and Ivan decided were the direction, right?Because a lot of what we're doing is leaning into capabilities, so. I think that's the first thing is like, I don't really view like the role of engineering leadership as like, uh, hierarchical, nor has it ever been, but especially now, like very willing to change direction based on, um, like proof is in the pudding.Yeah. And like, and I think we have rebuilt our harness three or four times. And when you do that, then the second rule of engineering leadership is like you need to build a team that's comfortable deleting their own code and is very low ego and is driven by what's best for the company. And, um, doesn't write design docs because they think it's their promotion packet.Right. And that's a culture that notion had long before I joined, but like our willingness to just swarm on different problems and um, redo things that we've built before because something has changed. Like, there's a lot of friction that can happen at companies when you do that. And it doesn't happen at Notion.And because it doesn't happen when new people join. Like they don't wanna be the ones that are saying, we shouldn't do this. I wrote that code. So then it's, you know, you, you create a culture that everyone thoughts and that culture comes directly, I think from Simon and Ivan though, um, because they're very open-minded.[00:12:50] swyx: Anything that you,[00:12:50] Simon Last: you'd add? I'm not a manager, like, like, like Sarah is. Um, a lot of my role is really to try to think a little bit ahead, make sure that we're, we're building on the right capabilities and then like the prototyping stuff. And yeah, it's really, really critical to always just be starting again.It's like, okay, this is new thing. What does this mean? What if we just rethought everything or wrote everything? And so I, I'm, I'm basically just doing that in a loop every six months.[00:13:16] swyx: Yeah. Do you believe in internal hackathons for this stuff?[00:13:19] Sarah Sachs: I think there's like two different versions. So one is like, we just have a, a, a solid bench of senior engineers that come and go on what we call the Simon Vortex and Productionizing what we built, right?Because when you're in the Simon Vortex, the velocity is super high. The direction changes daily, and it's meant to be like the equivalent of a SC Works lab. We don't need to do hackathons for that. We need to have senior engineers that we trust to come in and out of those projects. For instance, like management boundaries are really loose.Like you report to him, but you work for her right now. Yeah. That's something that when we hire managers, it's important they don't care about because we tend to form more structures. Yeah. Don't be too[00:13:54] swyx: territorial.[00:13:55] Sarah Sachs: We form more. It's after we ship things, not not before, just historically. Um, the second thing is we do have companywide hackathons.Actually we just had our demos day for the hackathon we had last week this morning. That's more for people that aren't directly working on the project, feeling like they have the time to pause and learn how to make themselves more productive or how they would use notion custom agents to build something.Or part of the hackathon was actually encouraging everyone across the company to build their own agentic tool loop, calling from scratch. Follow like an every blog post on how to do what I think because we want[00:14:26] swyx: just with the compound engineering one. Yeah.[00:14:28] Sarah Sachs: We want everyone to use cloud code in the company or whatever the coding agent they please and understand that fundamental.So we set aside a day and a half. We're all leadership, encourage everyone on their teams across the company to do it. So we have hackathons like that. I would say like kind of facetiously, like everything we build is a little bit like a hackathon until it graduates and puts on big boy pants and as a product ops rollout leader and has a assigned data scientists and stuff like that,[00:14:54] swyx: security review enterprise stuff,[00:14:56] Sarah Sachs: actually security reviews one of the things that we bring in first because it just slows us down way more and, um, causes a lot of tension and they build better product if they're involved early.So, um, that is probably the first person to get involved in something that's the[00:15:09] swyx: right PR approved answer.[00:15:10] Sarah Sachs: No, but it's not just PR approved. It like, um, um, it's[00:15:13] swyx: actually real. It's actually real. It's like, um, I'm just saying scar[00:15:15] Sarah Sachs: tissue.[00:15:15] swyx: Yeah,[00:15:16] Sarah Sachs: because like, you know, my background's also, I worked at Robinhood for a number of years.Yes. So like, uh, compliance and things like that, um, are a little bit more, you learn the hard way when it doesn't come naturally.[00:15:26] Simon Last: Yeah. I think the. The hackathon is really important for uplifting the general population, but like, if that's the only way you can build new things, you're kind of toast. I mean, it, it has to be like the daily processes, like, you know, building these new things.Um, and it has to be about, I think like, I think in the AI era a lot more leverage accumulates to the most curious and excited people. And so it's like we're all about just like activating that energy. You know, like if someone's protesting something on the weekend that they're excited about and it's important, that should be the main thing that we're doing.Yeah. Um, it's not a hackathon that we schedule once a quarter, it's just like, yeah. Daily process. Part of the culture.[00:16:02] Sarah Sachs: I mean, that's how we shift image generation and notion now. It was always this thing that would be kind of nice to have, but it wasn't really clear where that was necessarily aligned in product priorities.It'd be a lot of work. And we had someone on the database collections team, Jimmy, who was like. I really wanna do image generation for cover photos and inside notion. And we're like, if you wanna build it, like it's, do it please. Like we encourage you. We gave ‘em all the resources of working directly with Gemini and being able to like track the token usage and it working through endpoints.We gave them eval, support, everything, and then became a, a full project.[00:16:34] Alsesio: Yeah.[00:16:35] Sarah Sachs: That's why you can't have like ego as a, a leader. Like that's, that's how we work.[00:16:39] Alsesio: What's the size of the team today, both engineering and overall?[00:16:43] Sarah Sachs: I manage, uh, the team. That's what we'll call it. Core AI capabilities and infrastructure.That's about 50 people. But then we have per i partner teams that do packaging. So how it shows up in the corner chat versus custom agents versus meeting notes, that's another 30, 40 people. And, and then every team that has a product service at Notion that a user can interface with owns the tool that the agent interfaces with the editor team.The team that did CRDT for offline mode is the same team that handles how two agents, um, edit competing blocks. Mm-hmm. Right? It's the same problem. The team that built the underlying SQL engine is the same team that owns how the agent asks it to run a SQL query, and it does it performantly. And so from that regard, anyone working on product engineering is tasked with making them work for customers that are humans and agents because over time the majority of our traffic will be coming from agencies using in our interface, not humans.And so. Our objective is to make it so that the whole product org is building for agents.[00:17:40] Alsesio: Yeah. How has it changed internally? The activation bar is kind of lowered a lot. Like anybody can kind of create a prototype very, somewhat easily, especially if you're like an existing code base. Have you raised the bar on like what type of prototype people need to bring forward to gonna be taken?Not like seriously, but like, you know what I[00:17:58] Simon Last: mean? Yeah. I think the bar is lowered in many ways. Be like, one thing our, uh, our team built that is really cool is our, uh, our, our design team made a whole separate GitHub repo, uh, called the, the design Playground. And it's basically just to create a bunch of like, like helper components and you, uh, for, for quickly a throwing together UIs.And it's become like actually quite sophisticated. Like it has like an agent in there and like, uh, that's pretty fun. So like, we pretty much, like, they don't do mocks, they just make like, like full, full prototypes.[00:18:27] swyx: Here it is. It works.[00:18:28] Simon Last: They give you like a u rl. They're like, okay, all right. So we have to make the, like the real production version of that.Um, and then for engineers. A prototype looks like just making it a feature flag that actually works. Like that's sort of the bar.[00:18:39] Sarah Sachs: Something to understand that's really unique about notion. One of the reasons I joined we're super lucky is no one uses Notion in their job as much as people that work at Notion.[00:18:46] Simon Last: Of course.[00:18:47] Sarah Sachs: So I think there's very few companies, maybe if you worked on Chrome I guess, but like everything that we ship, we ship internally first and get a lot of really quick feedback. And also sometimes our dev instance is totally borked and you have to change a bunch of flags to get things done. And that's kind of like, but everyone, so people that do it ticketing, people that do supply chain procurement, recruiting, everyone is using the same instance of notion with like a lot of flags on for these prototypes people build.Um, and so we have this, Brian Levin, one of the designers on our team, I think evangelize this concept of demos over memos.[00:19:18] swyx: Ooh, too[00:19:20] Sarah Sachs: good. Um, which has been, uh, very good for building demos, and I think it's put a big pressure point on us to have really strong product conviction, because if anything can be demoed, you really need a strong filter of making sure that if you know, you're doing X amount of work, you're making the, you're, you're focusing on one tower, you're not just building a really flat hill.Right. That's actually where I think there has to be more conviction from our PMs, um, and our designers and, and well, the company really to have conviction of what journey we're going on.[00:19:52] Simon Last: But overall, I feel like it works pretty well. Like people, almost all the engineers have good enough taste to realize that like, this prototype doesn't actually make sense in the product, or, or it does.So it's not that common that I would see a prototype. It's like, oh, this makes no sense. Mm-hmm. It's like, you know, people are doing reasonable things and, and, and then it's just a matter of. Which things we build first and then often just, just figuring out how to turn it on and off. There's our, in the, in our like experimental chat ui, there's this, there's probably like, like a hundred check boxes in there.[00:20:22] Sarah Sachs: Kills me[00:20:23] Simon Last: the things you could turn on and off.[00:20:25] Sarah Sachs: Uh, but I think that, okay, so that is kind of true, Simon, but like being the person that manages the evals team, like there is a level of intensity that it adds to the platform team. So, you know, if we're gonna do image generation and notion, all of a sudden the way that we do attachments and the way that we, um, our LLM completion like cortex talks and expects tokens back and now it's getting images back.Like there's a lot of platform work that we do need to, like solidify a little bit. So sometimes it'll be in dev for a couple weeks before it makes it to prod just because we still have to like, make it robust, make it HIPAA compliant, ZDR compliant, figure out the right contracting with the vendor, whatever it is.And we need to eval it because we want the team. To still maintain what they build. That's the one thing is like if we have a bunch of prototypes, it can't just be like a small group of people that then maintain whatever end prototypes. So we have invested a lot of people in an eval and model behavior understanding teams that, we call it agent dev velocity.So your dev velocity building agents can be faster if we invest in that platform. And so we have a whole org dedicated to Asian, um, platform velocity so that you can build your own eval and then maintain it once you ship it. So if a new model release comes out and we, every[00:21:38] swyx: team maintains their own eval,[00:21:40] Sarah Sachs: we maintain the eval framework.Every team owns their own evals and a lot of them we've integrated to Optin, to ci, or we run them nightly and we have a team, uh, a custom agent that triggers to a team to look at the major failures. That's really critical because if we have like all these different surfaces now, a lot of it's on the same agent harness, so it's easier to maintain.It's just packaging of different agent harnesses, but new functionality of the agent. Let's say that like we wanna update like. Uh, you know, they deprecated, sonnet, um, four or whatever it is and we need to auto update. Are[00:22:11] swyx: they already? That's so, okay. Yeah. Actually wasn't that long ago.[00:22:14] Alsesio: Theywere[00:22:14] Alsesio: just 3.5.[00:22:15] Sarah Sachs: 3.537. Just got deprecated.[00:22:18] swyx: 3 7, 5 0.2 or, yeah. No,[00:22:20] Sarah Sachs: it's not. 5.2 is five point. Five point no. Yeah, five four is 40% more expensive than five two. So if they deprecated five two, you would hear they can, you would hear from me about that one. Um, but, uh, another conversation to have.[00:22:35] swyx: I have a cheeky evals question for you.Have you noticed any secret degradation from any of the major model providers?[00:22:40] Sarah Sachs: Secret degradation,[00:22:42] swyx: like. During the War Bay, when it's high traffic, it suddenly gets dumber.[00:22:47] Sarah Sachs: Yeah. I mean, not just between the, I mean, we definitely notice flakiness, we've definitely noticed, particularly for some providers, that things are slower during working hours and[00:22:57] swyx: there's a latency argument.Yes. Not a quality argument.[00:22:59] Sarah Sachs: No. I think the quality difference that's interesting is, um, even though companies that say they're selling the same, a, it's really into like quanti quantization, but like companies that say they're selling the same model through different vendors, whether it be through first party or Bedrock, Azure, et cetera.We do see different qualities sometimes, and that's not necessarily what's advertised.[00:23:21] swyx: Yeah. Kidney went to the point of like, if we, they shipped like this, like eval across all the providers and it was like very obvious we were secret equalizing and it was very,[00:23:28] Sarah Sachs: yeah. But[00:23:29] swyx: that's very embarrassing.[00:23:30] Sarah Sachs: You know, um, we hire Subprocess to figure that out for us.So we just wanna understand where it's regressing or where it's optimized. And sometimes we're okay with regressions that optimize latency if they're the appropriate regressions. Our job is to make sure we have the evals to understand the changes that are important to us. And even like when we're partnering with labs on pre-releasees of models, they'll send us multiple snapshots.And this is less about quantization, but more just regressions. Like they have shipped models that were not the snapshots that we wanted, and they have changed the snapshots that they shipped based on the feedback that we give. Because our feedback tends to be more enterprise work focused and not coding agent focused.And definitely those can be bummers, like, you know, uh, we know that this wasn't the version you wanted, but we'll help you make it work. I mean, we always make it work, but that definitely happens.[00:24:16] Alsesio: Yeah. Do you have, um, failing evals that you're just hoping, oh, that will have success eventually when a good model comes out?[00:24:23] Sarah Sachs: Uh, I mean, yeah. So I think. I mean, I could talk about this for 60 minutes, so I will limit myself. I think it's a real issue when people say evals and it's just like, that's quality, that's like unit, I mean, it's like saying testing. It's not just unit tests, right? So. We have the equivalent of unit test.Regression test. Those live in ci, those have to pass a certain percent, you know, within some stochastic error rate. Then we have, as you're building a product, evals of these aren't passing right now, and this is launch quality. So we have a report card and we need to, on these categories, you know, be it 80 or 90% of all of these user journeys to launch, and then what we have what we call frontier or headroom evals, where we actively wanna be at 30% pass rate.And that's actually been a effort that we took in partnership with philanthropic and OpenAI in the past maybe two or three months, because we actually hit a point where our evals were saturated and we weren't able to really give insightful feedback other than it wasn't worse. And not only is that not helpful for our partners, it's not helpful for us to understand where the stream is going.You know, going back to that analogy. And so we spent a lot of time thinking about. What notions last exam looks like, right? Mm-hmm. Not just humanities, last exam. Ooh, notions last exam. Mm-hmm. And, um, there's a lot of, you know, dreams about what that would look like. I know we've talked a lot about benchmarking, um, swix, but, uh, yeah.Notions last exam is a big thing inside the company and we have people, full-time staff to it exclusively. Mm. We have a data scientist, a model behavior engineer, and an full-time, um, evals engineer just dedicated to the evals that we pass 30% of the time.[00:25:56] swyx: What you're hiring for[00:25:57] Sarah Sachs: MBEs? I am hiring[00:25:58] swyx: What is an MBEA[00:25:59] Sarah Sachs: model?Behavior Engineer Model. Behavior engineers started with a title data specialist before I joined when they were working with Simon on like, uh, Google Sheets and like Simon just needed someone to look through Google Sheets and say, yes, no, this looks bad. This looks good. Right? And so we hired people with kind of diverse linguistics background.We had like a linguistics PhD dropout. Mm-hmm. And a Stanford ate new grad. And they're amazing. And they formed a new function basically. And over time we've built a whole team, um, with a manager who's now kind of reinventing what that role is with coding agents. So they used to be kind of manually inspecting code.Now they're primarily building agents that can write evals for themselves or LLM judges. There's a really funny day I can send you the picture where Simon, about a year and a half ago, was teaching them how to use GitHub. Um, and they're on the whiteboard and it was like, okay, I think it would be so much faster if our data specialists learned how to use GitHub and like learned how to commit these things in Dakota.And, and that was then and now I think, you know, coding has been a lot more accessible. Um, but moving forward it's this mix of like data scientist PM and prompt engineer because there's craft in understanding like even like what models can and can't do things. How do we define like that headroom? How do we define like what a good journey is?Um, is this model better or not? Why is this failing? There's some qualitative work, but then there's also like a lot of instinct and taste to it, and that's not necessarily software engineering. And so we have like very firm conviction and we have had for a number of years now that that is its own career path and we have always welcomed the misfits, so to speak.So we really firmly believe that you don't need an engineering background to be the best at this job. And that's what's quite unique about this particular role.[00:27:37] Simon Last: Yeah, this is something that I've been pretty excited about recently is we made an effort basically to treat the eval system as like an agent harness.So if you think about it, like, you know, you should be able to have an agent end-to-end, download a dataset, run an eval, iterate on a failure, debug, and, and then implement a fix. And ultimately you should be able to, you know, drive the full time process with a human sort of observing the, you know, the outer uh, system.So yeah, we went, went pretty hard on that. And that's, that's worked extremely well so far. It's like basically just to turn it into a coding agent, uh, uh, problem.[00:28:11] swyx: Your coding agent or just whatever[00:28:13] Simon Last: harness No coding agent. Yeah, code, cloud code. It should be totally general. Yeah. I think if it would be a mistake to like, like fix it on any, any particular coding agent.At the end of the day, it's just like CLI tools.[00:28:21] Sarah Sachs: It's like the same way that you would've a coding agent write the unit test. You should have a coding agent write the eval.[00:28:26] swyx: Yeah.[00:28:26] Sarah Sachs: But there's a lot of supervision in that still. We just don't believe that supervision has to come from software engineers because a lot of it is like, um, kind of you XREE and whatever, and these are the people that also triage failures and tell us where we should be investing next.[00:28:40] swyx: Yeah. I'm gonna go ahead and ask a spicy question. Is there a data, there are no software engineers at Notion.[00:28:46] Simon Last: Um,[00:28:46] Sarah Sachs: what does it mean to be a software engineer?[00:28:47] swyx: Exactly.[00:28:48] Simon Last: I mean, I think the way things are going is like we're on some continuum where. If, if you look back three years ago, humans were typing all the code and then we had auto complete, you're typing list of the code.Then we had sort of like filling agents, filling lines, and now we're getting into like agents doing longer range tasks where you can debug and implement a fix and then verify it works and you know, get your, get your PR even like, like Merion deployed. I think we're sort of just moving up the abstraction ladder and then the human role becomes more about observing and maintaining the outer system.There's a string of agents flowing through, like me prs what's going off the rails. Like what do I need to approve? Is there like a learning or memory mechanism that that works? So it's kind of a hard engineering problem. There's a, you know, there's, there's a lot to do there. I think we're just sort of moving up stack[00:29:34] Sarah Sachs: the same transition machine learning engineers have made, right?Like I haven't looked at a PR curve in a while.[00:29:39] swyx: Yeah. You used to do this stuff and now, um, auto research can do it,[00:29:42] Sarah Sachs: right? Like I think it depends on what you define as a software engineer.[00:29:46] swyx: Yes. It's, that's changing for sure.[00:29:49] Sarah Sachs: I think every software engineer in notion this summer went through like this, um, sheer, um, one of our engineering leads of the company called it, like every software engineer is going through the, the, uh, identity crisis that every manager goes through, where all of a sudden they realize their ability to write code is less important than their ability to delegate in context switch.And I think that is a transition out of being a software engineer. But[00:30:12] Simon Last: yeah. Yeah, there's a critical difference to being a manager, which is that like, it is actually very deeply technical. The problem, you know, humans are very like, like, like fuzzy and you can't like treat a team of humans like a, like a rigorous system where like, you know, prs like, like flow through and can be in like a block status and then what happens when they're blocked, right.With a set of agents, you actually can do that. And, and, and I think it's actually, there's a lot of interesting technical rigor that that goes into that it's like it's a technical design problem. Ultimately.[00:30:42] Alsesio: What is the design of the software factory that you're building?[00:30:46] Simon Last: Yeah, I mean, I think we're. Trying a lot of different things.I mean, ultimately you want to design a system that requires as little human intervention as possible, but like still maintaining the in variance that, that you care about. So yeah, we're exploring a lot different ideas there. I mean, I think I could talk about a few things I think are important there.Like, one thing I think is really important is, um, having some kind of like specification layer you can just commit marked on files. Mm-hmm. That works pretty well, but[00:31:15] swyx: it's nice to be notion man. I'm just saying like the spec, like Yeah. The natural home for specs is notion.[00:31:21] Simon Last: Yeah. Right. It can be a database of pages.Yeah. I mean, it needs to be something that is, you know, human readable and I viewable and I think that's pretty key. Another really key component is like the, the self verification loop. Yes. You need really, really good testing layers, basically. And that's a really deep, uh, uh, problem. But by getting that right, you know, and then, and then it's kinda like the workflow of like.What happens when there's a bug? How does it flow into the system? Like, is it like a subagent working on it? How does it make a PR and how does that get reviewed? And me, and then, you know, so there's like the, the flow or process.[00:31:56] swyx: Yeah. Cool. Uh, you know, one thing we did work out before you guys came in was this demo or this[00:32:01] Simon Last: agents[00:32:02] swyx: agent demo.Uh,[00:32:03] Simon Last: so every,[00:32:04] Alsesio: every time we do an episode, we try the product. Right. I don't think there's ever been an episode that I haven't tried. Yeah. Um,[00:32:11] swyx: and we, we try, try is a, a big word. Like since day one lane space has been on Notion, but this is the, this is the net new thing. Yes.[00:32:18] Alsesio: So this is for Nel Labs, which is the space we're in.So next week we're opening applications for tenants. So there's a web form, let me, we got this form done here. Uh, so, uh, before. Uh, the workflow would be I get an email, then I look at the person. It was like, should I spend time talking to this person? Then I respond, they respond back. So I build this. So the name it came up for on its own.Can you maybe h how do, how does it come up with its own name?[00:32:43] Simon Last: Yeah, that's a pretty app name. It's, it, it is just a random, it's a random, a name generator.[00:32:47] Alsesio: Oh, that's funny. It just came,[00:32:49] Simon Last: the fact that it picked that is, is kind of hilarious. I'm pretty sure it's just determined,[00:32:54] Sarah Sachs: resilient collector. I, I think I've never looked at the code for that.I've never second guessed it. I think it's kind of like a madlib situation.[00:33:00] Simon Last: Yeah, I think you're right. Yeah. It's, it's totally a, a deterministic. Oh, I thought it was great. Yes. Although, although when the, if you use the AI to set itself up, it can update its own name, so. Okay. Um,[00:33:11] Sarah Sachs: how did you create it? It, did you just do[00:33:12] Alsesio: classroom?I,[00:33:13] Sarah Sachs: okay.[00:33:13] Alsesio: I did, yeah. I'll say just check my inbox for applications for a coworking space. Keep a people, so it created the database for me. Which I have here. And I guess database is like an notion table because everything is notion. Um, and then whenever um, an email comes in, like here, it just creates a new role for the person.Mm-hmm. And then it uses web search to enrich the mm-hmm. The profile. So it kind of like searches the web and it's like, this is who this person is, this is when they say they wanna move in and kind of updates everything else. This is, I mean, it's not a GI, but to me, I don't wanna do this work. So it feels like, I mean, it took me maybe like 15 minutes to set up the whole thing.Um, and I really like that most of the information should live here. You know, it is not like some other tool asking me[00:34:01] Sarah Sachs: Yeah.[00:34:01] Alsesio: To like, bring my stuff there. It's like I would've probably already created an ocean thing.[00:34:06] Sarah Sachs: Mm-hmm.[00:34:06] Alsesio: So[00:34:07] Sarah Sachs: most of our biggest use cases and gains are from. That extra layer of human involvement in the process to make it so right.And so like one of our biggest use cases is bug triaging. So if someone posts something in Slack, can you just have a custom agent that lives there that has its own routing constitution of what team this belongs to, creates a task in your task database and then posts in that Slack channel, right? Like that's like one of the first things that we built internally, I think.And it's completely changed the way that notion functions as a company. Nothing falls through, well, most things don't fall through the crack. We don't know what we don't know. But it's not replacing people, it's replacing processes.[00:34:44] Alsesio: Yeah.[00:34:44] Sarah Sachs: Right.[00:34:45] Alsesio: And I'm curious how you think about composability of these things.So the other one I was working on is like a. These filler. So whenever somebody signs up as a tenant, kind of he'll sell the lease for them. There should probably some agent that is like office manager agent mm-hmm. That can handle the request, make the lease, and then, uh, give them a ADA access to the office and all of that.How do you think about that feature?[00:35:08] Simon Last: Yeah, so I mean, there's, there's two ways you can compose. One way is by using like the data primitives. So you can, you know, you, you could give, you have one agent, uh, be writing to the database and there's another agent that's walked in the database. So that's, that's one way that they, they can coordinate that's like a little bit more decoupled and mm-hmm.Works really well. Or you, you can couple them. So I, I think it's actually not released yet. Releasing it like next week is, uh, in the settings for an agent, you can give access to invoke any other agent.[00:35:34] swyx: Hmm.[00:35:34] Simon Last: So you can have them just. Just, uh, uh, talk directly. So[00:35:37] swyx: you, was there a limit on like, number of recursions or just,[00:35:40] Simon Last: um, probably,[00:35:42] swyx: you know what I mean?Like, you can just get an infinite loop that way there's[00:35:45] Simon Last: some kind of Yeah,[00:35:46] Sarah Sachs: I think it's, there is actually a number somewhere.[00:35:49] swyx: I believe I'm just, you know, like, you're, you're, someone's gonna screw up. You[00:35:51] Simon Last: should you try to see[00:35:53] swyx: Yeah. I mean, everything's gonna be paperclips.[00:35:55] Simon Last: Oh, yeah. Yeah. But, uh, but, but that's really useful.Yeah. So we, you know, like I just, I, I helped, uh, someone internally the other day, they had, they had built like over 30 custom agents for, uh, for our go to market team doing all kinds of different things. You know, for example, like researching, you know, like, like filling information about, about a customer or like, like triaging customer feedback or like, uh, something like that.Literally over 30 of them. And, and then he, and then he even made like a database of all the agents and then he is like, okay, and, and now I'm getting 70, over 70 notifications per day with just the agents are blocked on various things. Uh, and then I was like, oh, okay, cool. You know, the obvious thing to do there is to make a manager agent,[00:36:32] Sarah Sachs: right?[00:36:33] Simon Last: That's gonna sort of blocks be another abstraction layer in between your, your, uh, uh, 30 agents. Uh, so yeah, we, we send out with like a manager agent and then has access to invoke all the other agents and it's sort of like, like watching and observing them and then it sort of, it just creates a layer of abstraction.So instead of 70 notifications per day, it's like, like five. And then, and then the manager agent can help like, uh, debug and fix any problems with the,[00:36:54] swyx: does this is a concept of like an inbox or something like piece, you're basically saying that they can message each other?[00:37:00] Simon Last: Yeah.[00:37:01] Sarah Sachs: Well[00:37:01] swyx: they use the system of record, which, which is[00:37:02] Sarah Sachs: notion, so we[00:37:03] Simon Last: actually, yeah, we didn't make any special concepts at all.[00:37:06] swyx: They're interested to the motion notifications that I would've got,[00:37:09] Sarah Sachs: they can just like write a task to a database that the other agent's task to listening to, or they can actually call a web book to the agent, like they can just add the agent. Okay.[00:37:17] Simon Last: Yeah, I mean, this is something that, that we're still working on.I, I think we, you know, like, like generally, generally the way we do these things is, you know, you first make it possible, maybe like a sort of janky way. So I, I, I think the way I set ‘em up is like, you know, we created like a new database that was sort of like issues mm-hmm. That the custom agents were, were experiencing, and then gave them all access to file an issue and then the manager has access to, to read the issues.Um, and that works pretty well, essentially like, like give it its own like internal issue tracker just for the agents. And then, you know, if that becomes a, a concept that seems useful, generally maybe we will think of how to package it in. But I mean, generally we try to just keep it to composing the primitive if we can.You know, another example of this is we have no built-in memory concept. Memory is, is just pages and databases. And so if you wanna give a memory, just give it a page and give it. Edit access to that page and the[00:38:03] swyx: human can edit it. Agent can edit[00:38:04] Simon Last: it. Yeah. And so that works, that pattern works extremely well on it.And you know, depending this case, you can have it be just a page or it could be an entire database with, you know, or, you know, I can have sub pages is is pretty on what you can do with that.[00:38:15] Alsesio: So when I was setting this up, uh, I connected my inbox and it was like, do you wanna use Gmail or Notion Mail? And I'm like, I don't wanna use Eater, I just want you to do it.I'm curious how you think about, you know, notion, mail, notion, calendar, all of these kind of ui ux interfaces, full stack[00:38:29] Simon Last: notion.[00:38:30] Alsesio: Yeah. When like at the same time you have the agents abstracting them away from you in a way, you know, how do you spend like the product calories so to speak?[00:38:37] Simon Last: Yeah, I mean, I think it's pretty important that you don't have to use, not your mail to connect to the mail capability.So we can just connect to Gmail or, or whatever you want, uh, to use. And we're thinking of the mail service as being really great to the extent that it's really agent built, right? So maybe the mail app is just sort of a prepackaged agent that helps you automate your, your inbox.[00:39:00] Alsesio: Yeah, the auto labeling is great.Think[00:39:03] Sarah Sachs: the, when we, um, integrate with Gmail for instance, we have a series of tools available that are available via MCP or API to Gmail. When we integrate with Notion Mail, we have the Notion Mail engineering team to build us the, um, exact right tools that optimize latency, optimize performance and quality.They own that quality. Um, there's product leads there. They're directly thinking about the user problems that happen in mail. So it tends to be when we build integrations and connections, we build natively first. Um, and then think about, um, extending them generally just because it's also easier. Mm-hmm. Um, um, to build natively first.Um, so that tends to be how we phase things out.[00:39:43] swyx: Talking about integrations, you prompted me, so I gotta ask. M-C-P-C-L-I. What's going on? What's the[00:39:48] Simon Last: Yeah. Opinion. I think, I mean, I'm, I'm definitely bullish and excited about cli. I think there's a few really cool things about cli. So one really cool thing is like, um, is that it's in the terminal environment, so it gets a bunch of extra power.So it, you know, for example, it can like, like paginating and cursor through like long outputs. Um, and it has a progressive disclosure inherently. Uh, so, you know, you don't see all the tools at once. It's just, you see the CLI wrapper and you can like use the, the help commands and, and, and read files. And then I think the most important thing that's, that's super cool is that there, it's also inherently a, a bootstrapped.So if there's an issue, uh, the agent can debug and fix itself within the same environment that it uses the tool.[00:40:30] swyx: Mm.[00:40:30] Simon Last: Right. Like, you know, I think I saw a tweet this morning. Someone said, you know, my agent didn't have a browser, so I asked it to make all a browser tool and within a hundred lines of code, it gave itself a little browser, like, like wrapping the, the, the chromium API, um.That's pretty incredible. And then if there was a bug, it would just immediately try to fix it. Mm-hmm. Right. On the other hand, if you use an, you know, if you use like of, of the Chrome dev tools, MCP, I've had this issue where like, like sometimes the transport gets like messed up. If it gets messed up, the agent has no way to fix itself.It, it no longer has a browser, it's, it's not broken. Right. I think that's, that's pretty fundamental, but I would say like a lot of the, the bad things about it can be fixed. Uh, so I think like, as a progressive disclosure, that can be fixed with, with right harness. Like, it, it obviously doesn't make sense to show it all the tools all the time.That's not really inherent to the MCP protocol. It's just like how you wrap it and use it.[00:41:16] swyx: There's many poorly built MCPs because we didn't know.[00:41:19] Simon Last: Yeah, yeah. I mean it was just early, like, like the obvious thing is, uh, you know, to start with is, is to just show it all the tools and it's like, okay, now we have a hundred tools.Yeah. And like the tool calling actually works. So let's of[00:41:28] swyx: your success[00:41:29] Simon Last: give it a way to like, like filter to source the tools. So yeah, I would say like broadly speaking, I'm really bullish on cli. I'm still bullish on CPS and in a certain environment. I think in, in particular, CP is really great for when you want sort of like a narrow, lightweight agent.I think there's, there's definitely a lot of use cases where, where you don't want like a full coding agent with a compute run time. And also you want it to be like more tightly permissioned. MCP inherently has a really strong permission model, like all you can do is call the tools. A CLI is a little bit murkier.It's like, can I access the, if PI token are you, like, properly sort of like re-encrypt the token so it can't like exfiltrate it, it introduce a lot of like, like new issues, which are. Real and hard to solve. And MCP is just like the dumb simple thing that works and it that it's pretty good.[00:42:12] Sarah Sachs: I'll add two more perspectives, not from it working well for Notion, but how notion like commits to both platforms.Notion is dedicated to being the best system of record for where people do their enterprise work. So we will always support our MCP and so far as other people are using cps, right? So regardless of our perspective, we've put a lot of effort into our MCP and we have a fantastic team that we're building, um, to do more there.And the second thing I'll say, I think, um, we all think a lot, but lately I've been thinking a lot about making sure there's a value alignment and pricing, um, with capability.[00:42:43] swyx: Literally our next question[00:42:44] Sarah Sachs: and. Needing language to execute deterministic tasks feels wasteful and requiring on a language model to interface with third party providers seems wasteful for tasks that don't require it.And particularly because our custom agents are using usage-based pricing. We think of pricing as like the barrier of entry for use of our product, and we're quite committed to making sure that it's not wasteful. Um, not just because it's a bad deal for our customers, but it's also bad business. We wanna have as many buyers, like there's a, there's an elasticity of demand and so if we can have our agents properly execute code that calls on CLI deterministically, it's a one-time cost, right?Versus constantly having a language model integrate with an MCP over and over and over and paying those like repeated token fees and it's happening outside the cash window, then you're paying for it over and over and over and it's just kind of unnecessary and less deterministic when it doesn't have to be.[00:43:36] Alessio: Yeah, the open-endedness I think is like, the main thing is like, well, if I go write code to just call an API, I would never use an MCP. But then you need an NCP sometimes when you know what to call, but you don't want it to restart versus like, I think the it built a browser from scratch is like, it's great when you're doing it on your own, but like if your customers were having your AI write a browser from scratch every time and you had to pay the token cost of that, yeah.You'd be like, no, no. The Chrome dev tools CP is actually pretty great. Just use that. I'm curious, how do you make that decision? Like should it be. Just straight API call very narrow. Should it be an MCP? Should it be super open-ended?[00:44:10] Sarah Sachs: Do you mean for when we ship notion capabilities or when we add capabilities to[00:44:13] Alessio: notion[00:44:14] Sarah Sachs: AI or,[00:44:14] Alessio: I mean, you might have a capability that the only way to do is an open-ended agent, like an agent with a coding sandbox.[00:44:21] Sarah Sachs: Yeah. In Notion ai they're not explicit, not We also ship an MCP.[00:44:24] Alsesio: Yeah. Yeah. In B,[00:44:25] Sarah Sachs: yeah.[00:44:26] Alsesio: Internally. Okay. Like is there ever a discussion of like, we're not gonna ship it because we're not able to tie it down? Or are you happy to just like,[00:44:33] Sarah Sachs: um, no. I mean, there are a lot of things where we choose not to use MCP because we wanna add more high touch to quality.I think search an agent to find is like the largest instance of that, where we have. Um, slack and linear and Jira search and notion that is not using necessarily the search MCP functionality that is provided by those companies. And that's because it's quite critical we think, to how our agent trajectories work is for us to have a little bit more control on the functionality of the search journey.And so it usually comes from quality and there's a long tail of things and that's why we built an MCP client or an MCP server, excuse me, so that people can connect whatever they want. There's that long tail, right. But we, for search particularly, I would say that's like the primary entry point, but there are other connections as well that it's a little bit of secret sauce a
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What makes The Pitt feel different from other medical dramas? In this 53-minute MedPage Today special dispatch, Jeremy Faust, MD, speaks with Joe Sachs, MD, emergency physician and executive producer of the hit series, about how the show balances clinical accuracy with storytelling, and why it's resonating with both clinicians and the public. From meticulous on-set medical consulting to storylines drawn from real patient experiences, Sachs explains how The Pitt is not just entertainment — but, increasingly, a force in medical education and public health awareness.
Learn how to JournalSpeak ➡️ LEARN HOW: https://tinyurl.com/2ph33u2s In this powerful conversation, I sit down with one of our BreakAwake coaches, Lynette. Her story is a profound example of what can happen when we stop chasing endless cures and begin addressing the emotional roots of chronic pain. Lynette spent years living on high alert, believing she was simply someone destined to suffer. Frequent illness, skin infections, TMJ, anxiety, pelvic pain, scoliosis, and eventually debilitating ischial bursitis left her feeling like her life was shrinking before her eyes. Even with supportive medical care and physical therapy, relief was always temporary and new symptoms seemed to appear in their place. When she was introduced to JournalSpeak through a Sarno x Sachs–certified mentor, something finally shifted. With guidance and support, Lynette began to explore the emotional patterns and trauma underlying her symptoms and discovered that true healing was possible. Just months later, Lynette's life looks entirely different. The woman who once felt she was merely enduring life is now actively engaging with it again. She is traveling, exercising, sitting pain-free, climbing stairs, volunteering, and reconnecting with the joy of everyday living. In this episode, Lynette shares the vulnerable details of her journey—from medical trauma and years of searching for answers to the moment she finally felt safe enough to face the emotions her body had been expressing. Her story is a beautiful reminder that the nervous system can change, healing is possible even after years of suffering, and sometimes the right mentor and the right tools arrive exactly when we're ready for them. Join us! XOOX n. SUBSCRIBE TO MY NEW SUBSTACK! So excited about this one :)) Want your questions answered directly by me?
Stijn Schmitz welcomes Jeffrey Christian to the show. Jeff is the Managing Partner of the CPM Group. In this comprehensive discussion, Christian provides nuanced insights into the current state of precious metals, global economics, and geopolitical dynamics. Regarding gold, Christian argues that the market is in a long-term secular upward trend, with the current bull market potentially 60-70% through its cycle. He emphasizes that gold serves as a financial asset, a safe haven, and a portfolio diversifier. While acknowledging concerns about global deficits and debt, Christian suggests these issues are not as catastrophic as some analysts claim, pointing out that economic systems have historically adapted to significant financial challenges. The discussion explores broader economic trends, including de-globalization, reduced international trade, and potential decoupling of the world economy from the United States. Christian highlights the complex dynamics of central bank and sovereign wealth fund gold purchases, noting a critical distinction between monetary reserve acquisitions and investment-driven purchases. On silver and other precious metals, Christian describes a more specialized and volatile market compared to gold. He provides detailed insights into market dynamics, including arbitrage opportunities, industrial demand, and regional variations in trading. The conversation also delves into geopolitical risks, particularly the ongoing conflict in the Middle East and its potential implications for oil markets and global trade. Christian warns of potential economic disruptions, suggesting that a combination of factors could lead to a recession, including challenges in private equity, technology sectors, and international trade relationships. Timestamps: 00:00:00 – Introduction 00:00:52 – Gold Long-Term Cycle 00:04:26 – Bull Market Drivers 00:07:46 – De-globalization Effects 00:11:32 – Middle East Conflict 00:15:14 – Gold’s Safe Haven Role 00:20:33 – Retail Investor Participation 00:23:10 – Miners & Gold Disparity 00:24:47 – Silver Market Dynamics 00:28:32 – East Vs. West Prices 00:33:10 – Precious Metals Outlook 00:37:54 – Global Energy Crisis 00:42:08 – Dire Straits 00:43:54 – Supply Chain Concerns 00:48:13 – Recession Precious Metals 00:53:15 – Recession Risk & Liquidity 00:54:14 – CPM Group Overview Guest Links: X: https://x.com/CPMGroupLLC Website: https://www.cpmgroup.com/ Questions E-Mail: mailto:info@cpmgroup.com YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/CPMGroup/videos Jeffrey Christian is the Managing Partner of the CPM Group. He is considered one of the most knowledgeable experts on precious metals markets, commodities in general, and financial engineering, using options for hedging and investing purposes. He is the author of Commodities Rising 2006. Jeffrey Christian has been a prominent analyst and advisor on precious metals and commodities markets since the 1970s, with work spanning precious metals, energy markets, base metals, agricultural markets, and economic analysis. The company was founded in 1986, spinning off the Commodities Research Group from Goldman, Sachs & Co and its commodities trading arm, J. Aron & Company. He has advised many of the world’s largest corporations and institutional investors on managing their commodities price and market exposures and providing advisory services to the World Bank, United Nations, International Monetary Fund, and numerous governments.
Toca versus y enfrentamos a dos parejas de armas tomar literalmente. En un rincón, Cinder & Ashe, la miniserie a cargo de Gerry Conway y José Luis García-López que publicó DC en 1988, y que combina la acción con el noir cuando el pasado vuelve para morder el culo a nuestros protas. Nos vamos 5 años más tarde y a la competencia, concretamente al sello Epic intentando renovarse con la línea Heavy Hitters. Peter David y George Pérez nos brindaban Sachs & Violens, otra historia con la acción como protagonista en una trama que envuelve películas snuff y asunto muy turbios con menores. Dos tebeos con ciertas semejanzas, pero completamente diferentes, con equipos creativos de lujo se enfrentan hoy en las tortas. Y ya sabéis, no intentéis esto en casa La noche es caliente como el infierno. Todo se te pega. Una asquerosa habitación de un asqueroso barrio de una asquerosa ciudad. El aparato de aire acondicionado es un pedazo de chatarra que no podría enfriar ni una bebida aunque la metieras dentro. Parece el sitio perfecto para escuchar el podcast 409 de ELHDLT Selección musical: Sex & Violence, de Stone Temple Pilots Ash and Cinder, de Loreweaver
In this episode, we confront the alarming escalation of conflict in Iran and the potential implications for global stability, with insights from Professor Jeffrey D. Sachs. We also hear from Alon Mizrahi, a conversation between Tucker Carlson and Brandon Weichert, as well as some humorous clips to lighten the harsh realities. We discuss the threat of nuclear escalation in the context of military actions and the catastrophic consequences of elite decision-making on international relations. Tune in as we explore the realities on the ground, the role of the U.S. in foreign conflicts, and the pressing need for a new approach to diplomacy and sustainability. Support the Podcast via PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=LBGXTRM292TFC&source=url Professor Sachs on the Glenn Diesen podcast offers a critical analysis of the situation, asserting that we are indeed in the early days of World War III. He highlights the confusion and unpredictability surrounding U.S. foreign policy, particularly under the current administration, and warns of the dangers posed by unchecked military aggression. Sachs argues that the U.S. has historically operated with a mindset of global hegemony, often at the expense of international law and the principles of cooperation that the United Nations was founded upon. For an extended interview and other benefits, become an EcoJustice Radio patron at https://www.patreon.com/ecojusticeradio Resources/Articles: Commentary from Alon Mizrahi https://alonmizrahi.substack.com/ Jeffrey Sach's interview from Glenn Diesen's podcast: https://glenndiesen.substack.com/ Excerpt from Tucker Carlson's interview [https://youtu.be/gHrFcBeB7Lw?si=Jal52YYzzVu9MBoS] of Brandon Weichert https://nationalinterest.org/profile/brandon-j-weichert Jeffrey D. Sachs [https://jeffsachs.org/] is a U.S. economist and public policy analyst. He is a professor at Columbia University, where he was formerly director of The Earth Institute, and is director of the Center for Sustainable Development at the university. From 2002 to 2018, Sachs was special adviser to the UN Secretary-General. He has been president of the UN Sustainable Development Solutions Network. Sachs is co-founder and chief strategist of Millennium Promise Alliance, a nonprofit organization dedicated to ending extreme poverty and hunger. Sachs has written many books and received several awards. His views on economics, on the origin of COVID-19, and on the Russian invasion of Ukraine have garnered attention and criticism. Jack Eidt is an urban planner, environmental journalist, and climate organizer, as well as award-winning fiction writer. He is Co-Founder of SoCal 350 Climate Action and Executive Producer of EcoJustice Radio. He writes for a PBS SoCal Artbound project called High & Dry [https://www.pbssocal.org/people/high-dry]. He is also Founder and Publisher of WilderUtopia [https://wilderutopia.com], a website dedicated to the question of Earth sustainability, finding society-level solutions to environmental, community, economic, transportation and energy needs. Follow him on Substack [https://jackeidt.substack.com/]. Podcast Website: http://ecojusticeradio.org/ Podcast Blog: https://www.wilderutopia.com/category/ecojustice-radio/ Support the Podcast: Patreon https://www.patreon.com/ecojusticeradio PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=LBGXTRM292TFC&source=url Executive Producer and Host: Jack Eidt Engineer and Original Music: Blake Quake Beats Episode 281 Photo credit: designaire on pixabay
Krystal and Saagar discuss oil apocalypse, new Ayatollah chosen, Jeffrey Sachs says we are in world war, Lindsey Graham coached Bibi on convincing Trump for Iran War. Trita Parsi: https://x.com/tparsi Rory Johnston: https://x.com/Rory_Johnston To become a Breaking Points Premium Member and watch/listen to the show AD FREE, uncut and 1 hour early visit: www.breakingpoints.comMerch Store: https://shop.breakingpoints.com/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Möt antropologen Lisbeth Sachs, som i hela sitt forskarliv undersökt hälsofrågor och kulturer, viket har tagit henne till både Sri Lanka och Tensta.Antropologi är vetenskapen om människan – hur vi lever, tänker, utvecklas och organiserar våra samhällen, både nu och genom historien. Ordet kommer från grekiskan och betyder ungefär “läran om människan”.Programledare: Fritte FritzsonProducent: Ida WahlströmKlippning: Silverdrake förlagSignaturmelodi: Vacaciones - av Svantana i arrangemang av Daniel AldermarkGrafik: Jonas PikeFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/alltduvelatveta/Instagram: @alltduvelatveta / @frittefritzsonGästfoto: Henrik LundellHar du förslag på avsnitt eller experter: Gå in på www.fritte.se och leta dig fram till kontakt!Podden produceras av Blandade Budskap AB och presenteras i samarbete med Acast Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Krystal and Saagar discuss Americans turn on Iran war, Jeff Sachs unloads on Netanyahu, Professor Jiang says US will lose war. Jeffrey Sachs: https://www.jeffsachs.org/ Professor Jiang: https://www.youtube.com/@PredictiveHistory To become a Breaking Points Premium Member and watch/listen to the show AD FREE, uncut and 1 hour early visit: www.breakingpoints.comMerch Store: https://shop.breakingpoints.com/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
What's the vital difference between a management team that creates value and one that destroys it? Is the concept of a "capital-light business" always positive? And what about management alignment and incentives? This episode is the first in a new series - The Finance Ghost and Mohammed Nalla are bringing you some of South Africa's best boutique fund managers, kicking off with Aylett & Co. represented by Dagon Sachs. As a founding member of Aylett and a highly-experienced asset manager who has spent over two decades mastering the art of stock picking, there's much to learn from Dagon. With the hospitality industry as a useful case study, this podcast is an important look at how to assess the way that corporate management teams behave with shareholder money. Today's Topics: A brief overview of Aylett's ethos of being ‘benchmark agnostic' and ‘eating your own cooking' by investing alongside clients. Why capital-light businesses with high growth tend to be unicorns – and priced like them, too! How capex-heavy businesses can ironically be better allocaters of capital than capital-light businesses that may be tempted into acquisitions. How to identify corporate management teams that prioritise rational economics over prestige, especially in an egocentric industry like hospitality. The cyclical nature of the hotel industry and the surprising similarity it has to mining in terms of replacement cost for assets. Find out more about Aylett & Co. here: Aylett.co.za Reach out to Dagon Sachs on LinkedIn Get in touch: The Magic Markets Website @MagicMarketsPod, @FinanceGhost, and @MohammedNalla (all on X) Pop us a note on LinkedIn Disclaimer: This podcast is for informational purposes only and does not constitute financial or investment advice. Please speak to your personal financial advisor. Aylett & Co. (Pty) Ltd is an authorised Financial Services Provider, licence number 20513. Chapters (00:00:00) - Introduction: Introducing the 2026 Boutique Manager Series(00:01:36) - The Aylett & Co. Ethos: 21 Years of Bottom-Up Asset Picking(00:03:28) - Benchmark Agnostic: Why "Eating Your Own Cooking" Matters(00:06:42) - Capital Allocation 101: Future Cash Flows and the Math of Value(00:08:21) - Incentives and Trust: Why Shareholder Alignment Is Everything(00:09:59) - Capital-Light vs. Capex-Heavy: Searching for the "Nirvana" Unicorn(00:11:47) - The Share Buyback Trap: Rational Thinking in a Listed Environment(00:13:08) - Hospitality as a Case Study: The Pivot from Asset-Heavy to Franchise(00:14:58) - The OpCo/PropCo Debate: Does It Make Sense to Own the Real Estate?(00:17:30) - International Trends: Hyatt, Marriott, and the Global Brand Advantage(00:19:29) - Deep Dive into Southern Sun: Understanding Regional Cyclicality(00:21:00) - Return on Ego: Avoiding Rationality Traps in Hotel Building(00:22:44) - Replacement Costs: Why High Entry Barriers Protect Existing Players(00:24:40) - The Mining Analogy: Discipline, Maintenance, and Counter-Cyclicality(00:26:56) - The South African Risk Premium: Tourism Headlines and Safety Margins(00:29:03) - Conclusion: Plagiarizing Global Success for Local Portfolios
Krystal and Saagar discuss Mike Huckabee vs Tucker on Israel, Jeffrey Sachs flames Trump on Iran war and tariff meltdown. Jeffrey Sachs: https://www.jeffsachs.org/Jose Luis: https://x.com/GranadosCejaCharlie Kratovil: https://x.com/Charlie4Change To become a Breaking Points Premium Member and watch/listen to the show AD FREE, uncut and 1 hour early visit: www.breakingpoints.comMerch Store: https://shop.breakingpoints.com/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Chris Markowski discusses the importance of understanding financial reality, the principles of Adam Smith's capitalism, and the moral philosophy behind economics. He critiques the current state of government involvement in the economy, the retirement crisis facing Gen X, and the flaws in traditional investment strategies. Markowski also highlights the entertainment nature of financial media and the missteps of private equity firms, particularly in relation to Ivy League investments. The episode concludes with a discussion on the implications of Goldman Sachs' connections to Jeffrey Epstein and the broader issues of accountability in the financial sector.
Hosts Alistair Taylor and Matthew Czekaj are joined by MEI Senior Fellow Natan Sachs to discuss Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's February 11 visit to the White House, Israel's anxieties surrounding the ongoing US-Iran talks, and the domestic political dynamics Netanyahu is operating under. Taylor, Czekaj, and Sachs unpack what Netanyahu hoped to achieve during the visit, particularly regarding Iran, and what his relationship with President Donald Trump can tell us about the relative coordination and policy alignment between the US and Israel. They also examine Netanyahu's political standing at home, two and half years since the October 7 attacks, as the 2026 election campaign begins in Israel. Finally, Sachs assesses what lies ahead for Israeli politics. Recorded on February 17, 2026.
Kat Sachs is the co-managing editor of Cine-File Chicago and a columnist on moviegoing for the Chicago Reader. The First Time is a live lit and music series recorded at Martyrs’ in Chicago’s North Center neighborhood. Each reader tells a true first tale, followed by a cover of the storyteller’s choosing, performed by our house band: The First Time Three. The First Time is hosted by Jenn Sodini. Executive producer is Bobby Evers. Assistant producer is Celina Dietzel. Podcast produced by Jim Mulvaney.
Hello and Welcome in to another episode of 'Pastor and His People'. Join us as we talk with one of our members, Luke.
Krystal and Saagar discuss Sachs warning on imminent Iran attack, Rand Paul Vs Rubio on Venezuela, dollar collapsing, Trump baby accounts. To become a Breaking Points Premium Member and watch/listen to the show AD FREE, uncut and 1 hour early visit: www.breakingpoints.comMerch Store: https://shop.breakingpoints.com/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
The Space Show Presents A Special Open Lines Discussion, Sunday, 1-11-26Quick summaryThis program focused on discussing space industry developments and future predictions for 2026, with participants exploring topics like advancements in AI, robotics, and space technology. They debated the influence of private sector leaders like Elon Musk and Eric Schmidt on space policy and innovation, while also examining educational requirements needed to support future space endeavors. The group discussed the potential for breakthroughs in propulsion and energy solutions, as well as the search for extraterrestrial life, though they agreed current technologies would not yield significant results by 2026. The conversation concluded with reflections on how space advocacy might evolve over the next decade, particularly as costs decrease and more private sector involvement emerges.SummaryOur program got underway by discussing Dr. Phil Metzger's list of 20-21 important developments for the space industry in 2026, with John Jossy presenting key items. The discussion highlighted significant developments such as declining launch costs, reusable rocket technology, satellite broadband constellations, and AI-driven applications of satellite data. Negative impacts were also discussed, including supply chain volatility for semiconductors and potential delays in mega constellations due to AI demand and export rules. The Wisdom Team also touched on upcoming programs, including a special edition of the space show and a new Tuesday program featuring a CEO from a European company.We discussed Elon Musk's vision for medical robots and AI, with Marshall expressing both optimism and discomfort about the rapid pace of technological advancement. They explored Musk's plans for Starlink satellites, including in-space maintenance and potential cost savings, though settlement on Mars and the Moon was not extensively discussed. The conversation covered broader topics including AI's impact on labor, universal basic income, and the role of education in a changing world, with John Jossy noting that the discussion was part of Peter Diamandis' Moonshot podcast series.I believe that a valuable part of our overall discussion looked at the influence of innovative leaders in the space sector, with Manuel expressing concerns about the dominance of a few individuals, while David and John Jossy highlighted the need for ethical regulations and oversight. They debated the challenges of supervising innovative leaders like Elon Musk and David Sachs, with John Jossy emphasizing Sachs's role in advising the administration on AI regulations. Marshall agreed with David's point about the difficulty of overseeing geniuses, suggesting that market forces often limit harmful innovations. The part of the program concluded with a discussion on the future of space, including the role of private sectors and state actors, and the potential for partnerships between governments and the private sector.The Space Show Wisdom Team discussed future space exploration and technology developments over the next 10 years. Ryan predicted increased automation and robotics in orbital operations, while Marshall envisioned multiple lunar bases and the construction of space cities for manufacturing and AI development. David noted the absence of discussion on breakthrough propulsion technologies and emphasized the need for innovations that could benefit humanity on Earth. John Hunt mentioned Jared Isaacman's interest in nuclear propulsion for NASA, and Marshall suggested that nuclear fusion could be developed and used for space exploration, though primarily for pushing exploratory satellites.Future space technology and innovation was a topic, focusing on the potential of fusion energy, space solar power, and reduced costs for launching payloads to low Earth orbit (LEO). Marshall highlighted the significance of Starship Block 3, which is expected to significantly lower the cost per kilogram to LEO, enabling more projects and innovations. John Jossy mentioned ongoing developments in wireless power transmission and space-based solar power for AI data centers. David raised questions about the dependency of space innovation on government policies, suggesting a needed potential relationship between public sector support and private sector progress. The group agreed that 2026 could mark a significant breakthrough in space technology, driven by advancements in Starship and reduced launch costs.W also pointed to the potential political influence on emerging technologies, particularly in sectors like transportation and communications, with Ryan noting the significant financial interests at play. Marshall highlighted the challenges of adapting government agencies to innovations like robo-taxis and robo-airplanes, predicting major shifts in how air traffic control and state regulations function. John Jossy emphasized AI as the primary driver of current innovation, citing its impact on industries and venture capital investments, while Marshall and David agreed that AI development is closely linked to changes in energy production and societal education. David stressed the need for a strong educational foundation to support advancements in space and AI, expressing concern about the United States' declining educational performance compared to countries like China and Japan.The Wisdom Team discussed educational challenges in the United States, with John Jossy emphasizing the need to address root causes of poor educational outcomes at local and state levels. Manuel shared examples from Peru and Europe, including a public sector initiative for high-performing students and apprenticeship programs, while John Hunt noted increased STEM requirements in Missouri schools. The discussion highlighted the importance of educating competent individuals to meet future innovation and technology demands, with no clear consensus on specific solutions.The group discussed educational changes over time, with David and Marshall sharing their experiences with calculus and practical applications. They explored the possibility of using AI to improve education systems. The conversation then shifted to the search for extraterrestrial life, with John Jossy stating that current technologies are not advanced enough to detect extraterrestrial life in 2026. The group also discussed the recent announcement by Eric Schmidt of Relativity Space regarding funding for a replacement for the Hubble Space Telescope and three additional telescopes, with a projected cost of at least half a billion dollars. Finally, David posed a question about the future of space advocacy over the next 5-10 years, but the group did not reach a consensus on this topic.Also discussed were future trends in space advocacy and conferences, with Marshall suggesting that in 10 years, conferences might focus more on financing and promoting personal space projects rather than academic presentations. Dr. Zubrin's potential future involvement in space advocacy was mentioned, noting that at 74, he could continue his Mars advocacy work for another 20-25 years. The conversation ended with David announcing upcoming guests for the show, including Guy Schumann from Luxembourg, and a discussion about foreign spaceports, with Mark Whittington preparing a program about international spaceport developments.Special thanks to our sponsors:American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics, Helix Space in Luxembourg, Celestis Memorial Spaceflights, Astrox Corporation, Dr. Haym Benaroya of Rutgers University, The Space Settlement Progress Blog by John Jossy, The Atlantis Project, and Artless EntertainmentOur Toll Free Line for Live Broadcasts: 1-866-687-7223 (Not in service at this time)For real time program participation, email Dr. Space at: drspace@thespaceshow.com for instructions and access.The Space Show is a non-profit 501C3 through its parent, One Giant Leap Foundation, Inc. To donate via Pay Pal, use:To donate with Zelle, use the email address: david@onegiantleapfoundation.org.If you prefer donating with a check, please make the check payable to One Giant Leap Foundation and mail to:One Giant Leap Foundation, 11035 Lavender Hill Drive Ste. 160-306 Las Vegas, NV 89135Upcoming Programs:Broadcast 4487 ZOOM Guy Schumann | Tuesday 13 Jan 2026 930AM PTBroadcast 4488 Zoom, DR. ARMEN PAPAZIAN | Friday 16 Jan 2026 930AM PTGuests: Dr. Armen PapazianArmen presents his latest space economics paper which is posted on The Space Show blog for this program.Broadcast 4489 Zoom Dan Adamo | Sunday 18 Jan 2026 1200PM PTGuests: Dan AdamoZoom: Dan discusses the special lunar orbit being used for the Artemis program Get full access to The Space Show-One Giant Leap Foundation at doctorspace.substack.com/subscribe
Send us a textJoin Professor Jeffrey Sachs and historian Michael J. Carley, retired Professeur at the Université de Montréal, for a discussion of his groundbreaking trilogy on the international crises of the 1930s: Stalin's Gamble, Stalin's Failed Alliance, and Stalin's Great Game. Drawing on decades of archival research, Carley challenges the familiar Cold War narrative that paints Stalin and Hitler as “dual dictators” and instead uncovers a forgotten history of the Soviet Union's sustained efforts to build a collective security alliance against Nazi Germany.Sachs and Carley explore how Britain, France, and the United States repeatedly rejected these overtures, shaped by anti-communism, imperial interests, and deep-seated prejudices that cast the USSR - not Hitler - as the greater threat. This strategic blindness, Carley argues, helped pave the way to World War II and has since been obscured by Western historiography and popular culture.This episode offers listeners a powerful narrative of missed opportunities, ideological blinders, and the consequences of mistrust among great powers. It is a story from the 1930s with striking resonance today, revealing how historical misunderstanding can shape international politics, and how the failures of statecraft then echo in our world now.The Book Club with Jeffrey Sachs is brought to you by the SDG Academy, the flagship education initiative of the UN Sustainable Development Solutions Network. Learn more and get involved at bookclubwithjeffreysachs.org.Footnotes:Books by ⭐️ Thanks for listening to Book Club with Jeffrey Sachs!
✈️ Don't pack another bag until you hear this. Lexie Sachs from the Good Housekeeping Institute has tested it all — luggage, travel pillows, resorts, and even packing cubes that won't fall apart mid-trip. And now, she's sharing her top-tested picks just in time for your next family getaway.
Find the grave of Annabel Lee and you find the ghost of Edgar Allan Poe! In this episode, a hand-drawn map pulls us through a locked iron gate into Charleston's most overgrown churchyard, where legends gather like mist and names disappear into leaves. A lady in white wanders the paths. Sixty-four people have collapsed before this very gate. We follow the trail of Annabel Lee—the girl Poe loved, or invented, or summoned—and uncover the stranger story beneath the legend: a visiting scholar who survived war and exile, stood before Juliet's Tomb in Verona, and quietly planted a grave that may never have existed. The map points toward a burial—but the real treasure may be hidden elsewhere. What if the grave was a lie but the lie was true? Sources: The Ghosts of Charleston by Julian Buxton Edgar Allan Poe's Charleston by Christopher Byrd Downey A History Lover's Guide to Charleston by Christopher Byrd Downey Unburied Treasure: Edgar Allan Poe in the South Carolina Lowcountry Scott Peeples, Michelle Van Parys Southern Cultures, Vol. 22, No. 2 Haunted Charleston by Sarah Pitzer Nevermore! 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