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Have you ever stared at your to-do list, felt that familiar dread, and suddenly decided that reorganising your sock drawer was the most important task in the world? What if that delay you keep shaming yourself for isn’t laziness at all—but your mind trying to protect you from something it perceives as threatening? In this powerful episode, we shatter the myth that procrastination is a character flaw or lack of discipline. The truth is far more revealing: procrastination isn’t the enemy—it’s a messenger. It’s a mirror reflecting how we manage emotion, fear, and self-worth. While the world tells you to push harder and discipline yourself into action, something far more transformative happens when you stop fighting the delay and start understanding it. This episode reveals three transformative insights about the psychology behind procrastination and how to turn delay into self-awareness. The Comfort of Future Self-Deception: Every time you tell yourself “I’ll do it tomorrow,” your brain is playing its favourite trick. We imagine a future version of ourselves who is infinitely capable—a superhero who will have more energy, more focus, more time. Psychologists call this temporal discounting: we prioritise immediate comfort over future benefit. And here’s the trap—every time we delay, we get a tiny hit of relief. Dopamine whispers that we escaped discomfort, and that relief reinforces the habit. We don’t procrastinate to waste time. We procrastinate to avoid pain. The next time you catch yourself scrolling instead of starting, pause and ask: what am I trying not to feel? It’s rarely laziness. It’s emotional protection. The Fear Factor—Perfectionism in Disguise: Behind every chronic procrastinator, there’s usually a perfectionist hiding. We delay not because we don’t care, but because we care too much. The thought of doing something imperfectly triggers fear of judgment, rejection, and even success itself. So we wait. We polish. We overthink. Because as long as the task isn’t done, it can’t be wrong. “If I never finish, I never fail”—that’s the quiet logic of procrastination. Safety disguised as strategy. But here’s the paradox: by avoiding the discomfort of imperfection, we create the pain of paralysis. Progress doesn’t come from perfection. It comes from movement. Rewriting Your Procrastination Story: Once you understand procrastination, you can begin to rewire it. The key is not to fight it, but to get curious about it. Start small—break overwhelming goals into tiny doable steps. The brain loves completion, and even micro-successes release dopamine that fuels momentum. Reframe the task: instead of “I have to finish,” try “I’ll just begin.” Beginning is often the hardest part, and once you start, inertia works for you instead of against you. Most importantly, replace self-criticism with self-compassion. Research shows that people who forgive themselves for procrastinating are far less likely to repeat the pattern. When you remove the shame, you remove the resistance. This isn’t just an episode—it’s permission to stop shaming yourself and start listening to what your delays are trying to tell you. Procrastination is your mind saying something here feels too heavy, too uncertain, or too much. When you listen with compassion, the delay dissolves and action feels natural again. The goal isn’t to conquer procrastination. It’s to understand it. And once you understand it, you are free. You can watch the video of this episode on YouTube. Newsletter: https://catherineplano.com for transformation. Instagram: @catherineplano for inspiration.
After rebuilding her life from divorce and financial uncertainty, Pav Lertjitbanjong shares why job security is often an illusion—and what actually creates peace of mind. In this conversation, Pav explains how becoming layoff ready is about strategically creating options for yourself before you're forced to make a change. She breaks down the three numbers that bring clarity to financial decisions and why waiting for security keeps people stuck. This episode is a grounded look at what it really means to layoff-proof your life. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:How Pav found clarity after emotional overwhelm.Pav's own strategic approach to paying off her debt.What layoff proofing your life truly means for your future.Why job security is an illusion but career resilience is not.Three numbers everyone needs to feel financially prepared.Episode References/Links:Pav Lertjitbanjong's Website - https://www.pavness.comPav Lertjitbanjong's Tiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@momentsofresetPavness YouTube Channel - https://www.youtube.com/@PavnessLabPav Lertjitbanjong's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pavnesslabGuest Bio:Pav Lertjitbanjong is a marketing and brand strategist with more than two decades of experience leading strategy for global, billion-dollar brands. She is the creator of PAVNESS, a framework designed to help high-achieving individuals navigate major life transitions with clarity, courage, and intention. Known for turning complex strategy into clear, human-centered stories, Pav's work lives at the intersection of brand positioning, personal reinvention, and meaningful messaging. Her approach is shaped not just by her professional background, but by her own experience rebuilding her life through uncertainty and change. Pav believes true success is not defined by titles, revenue, or external validation, but by alignment and the confidence to be fully seen. Today, she helps leaders and creators reconnect with who they are becoming—both in business and in life. Her story is a reminder that clarity comes from honesty, and bold moves often begin quietly. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! 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So now I teach people how to take control of their money and rebound from any situation without overwhelm.Lesley Logan 0:22 Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 1:05 All right, Be It babe, this is a interesting conversation you're about to hear, because I really was super intrigued by our guests today. I got to meet them several months ago, talk about what they're excited to do. They have actually been a listener of the Be It Pod for a really long time. They've been being it till they see it. And that's literally why they are sharing what they're doing right now. And so I'm super excited for you to hear about Pav and being layoff, layoff ready, right? And I think that's you might be thinking, wow, aren't talking about laying on, getting laid off? You guys, we have to. We have to. Some of you in your be it till you see it might have to be laid off, or might get laid off, or might want to be laid off. So, so I think this is a really cool conversation of like preparedness and also, like honesty about what is life? What is the life we want? Like, have we been honest with ourselves? And when I got off the comic path, we talked about confidence a little bit, and so it wasn't recorded. So I kind of want to just like, bring this in and then I want to you to hear this amazing episode from Pav and hear her journey, and hear what she's doing here, so she's helping people, because I think a lot of people are going to need, like, layoff proof their life. So, confidence, you guys, confidence, isn't something you are deemed with. No one gives it to you. It's also not something you go and get. Confidence comes from doing the thing you said you do. So every time you tell yourself you're gonna go for a walk around the block, and then you postpone it to like answer an email, you are actually etching away at your confidence. But if you go and do the walk, then you are increasing your confidence strength. A lot of people think, oh, once I'm more confident, then I will do X. No, do X, and you will become more confident, right? So with that said, thank you, Pav, for that wonderful question. I'm so sorry you guys, wasn't recorded. I hope that little tidbit gets you there, and here's Pav and Layoff Ready. Lesley Logan 3:02 All right, Be It babe, I'm excited, today's topic, I think maybe we've touched on it a little bit in people's stories, but never had like, someone who's expert at it, someone who's, like, truly been through the trenches and come on the other side, and like, has expertise to share with you, and like skill sets and all those things also probably one of the coolest Be It actions I've ever seen someone do. I hope we get into it as well. Pav, you're our guest today, can you tell everyone who you are and what you're rocking at? Pav Lertjitbanjong 3:29 Yes. Hi Lesley, thank you so much for having me. It's been an honor to be here. So I am Pav Lertjitbanjong. I'm the founder of Layoff Ready and a financial resilience mentor. So basically, what I do is I help professionals to help build income security and freedom. And, you know, before that, I was working in corporate, just like most people, and realized that, you know, finally it's the matrix that we kind of, like, you know, onto, like, this hamster wheel, and had this moment and eventually got out of it. So yeah, and I rebuilt my life after divorce, and basically, kind of left me completely shattered financially and emotionally, but I learned how to layoff proof my life, and now I'm, you know, quitting my job and retiring from corporate at 43 years old. So now I teach people how to take control of their money and and, you know, rebound from any situation without overwhelm and fluff.Lesley Logan 4:27 Oh, I love this. First of all, 43 and you're, like, retired. I think you had all of us. I mean, clearly you're working, you create your own thing, but like, you're retired from corporate life. Like, I think a lot of ears perked up, because that's not the option for a lot of people. I do want to take a step back, because I do love that you shared that like you have gone through divorce, you have had to pick up yourself and put all the pieces back together and start over, like a lot of people listening to the show, you know? I mean, I hope we have some Gen Z, but most likely, most of them are a little they're over 40, and we have been. And through things in life, and sometimes we can take it really personally and think there's something wrong with us. How can we go back in time a little bit like, how did you pick the pieces up after divorce? Like, what? What did you do to even get yourself to a place? Because I can't, unless your divorce was 20 years ago, it feels like this all happened very quickly, that you went from divorced and broke to, like, retiring from corporate. Pav Lertjitbanjong 5:22 Yeah and Lesley, thank you so much for asking me this question, and it's the one that I've kind of like pondered for so long, because, you know, like, when we've been through like, such dramatic situation like this, right? Like we don't usually reflect on the lessons that we typically learn from so I thought about that. So basically, okay, let me just maybe backward on, like, okay, my divorce situation. So I've been married for about seven years, and then, you know, things didn't work out. I think part of this now that I have, like, my renewed faith in in God and, you know, the universe, I believe that if you are onto the path that God is not blessing you, that is not your true calling, he will destroy that path. And that resulted into my divorce. And so the moment that I gathered courage to okay, say to myself that okay, I cannot be in this situation anymore. I need to really do something, or I'm gonna spend the rest of my life, you know, crying about it for the life that I have not lived. And just like what you always say, you know, we do it messy, and we, right? Lesley Logan 6:36 Yeah. Life is messy. It's, you can't like it can't not be, you know, like, one of my dear, my first assistants was a doula. She's like, birth is really messy. Pav Lertjitbanjong 6:48 Yeah. But, you know, I think, like, once you focus on something, and then you surrender to God, he will lead the way. That's what I've that I've believed in. So, you know, with my with my divorce, in order for me to get them to get a divorce, the first step, my lawyer said, Okay, you need to get your baseline ready. You need to do budgeting. And I'm like, okay, with an MBA in finance, I didn't know how to do budgeting, which was like, so crazy. And I'll tell you this, like with Layoff Ready, I have worked with some of the clients that are, like, higher up in corporate, and they are the same, I think, like, the higher up you are, you rely so much on like, so called experts to help with your personal life, life, right? Like, because you are so good at what you do, so you don't really, yeah, you you neglect what you need to do for yourself, because you just totally trust experts. And that's kind of how I've always been. So I had to start from the ground up in terms of, okay, like, what exactly is my net worth without my husband or ex husband now? And it took me six months Lesley, not because it was hard in the sense that, like, oh, all the calculation, because I'm like, a number person anyway, but the six months to actually feel the feelings, right? Like, really, gather all the documents and really, okay, this is it. You know, once I submit that paperwork, once I file this, then that's the beginning of the new life unknown.Lesley Logan 8:20 Thank you for sharing that. I think a lot of people don't do things because it really does mean by finishing it, it marks the end, like, that's the end of that, you know, like, whether it's a person who's passed away or a pet that's passed away, like, dealing with the their toys and the dog beds, whatever it is, like, once it's gone, it's like, well, they're really gone. Like, there's not even a sign of them around here. So like going through and figuring it out, like I can see why you would want to take six months, not because the numbers are hard, but because it's hard. It's just hard. Yeah.Pav Lertjitbanjong 8:49 Exactly, Lesley. And I mean, when you talk about pets, you know, I've been through that same situation too, and I am a procrastinator, and that's my new year resolution, which I'm kind of, like slowly getting there. Same thing, like, when, when my two, my two rabbits died from that marriage, you know, they came with me. It also took me six months to, like, clean up everything.Lesley Logan 9:12 Yeah, because it was, like, the last, you know, like the last thing of that, yeah. Well, so, okay, so during the six months, did you do anything to kind of help yourself out? Did you go did you stay home and, like, wallow? Did you go out? Like, how did you, like, take care of yourself and get to know yourself? Was there anything, any Be It Action Items that you did in there? Pav Lertjitbanjong 9:32 Oh my gosh, okay. Like, shamelessly saying, I did absolutely nothing, just like, wallowing, you know, being in, like, my shoe box apartment in New York City, because at the time, I already moved out of my my house, and I didn't really have much in savings at the time, because basically, when you're married, then, you know, things are kind of commingled in a way. So not so much. You know, that was probably one of the darkest time of my life. And you know, back to like what I did, and what did I learn from that, from from like, the whole process was that the power of budgeting that's so important. And let me just tell you this, Lesley, so after that six months, I decided, okay, like, I need to do something. I I'm gonna file that paper and get that budgeting done. Took me one day. Lesley Logan 10:20 Right. Pav Lertjitbanjong 10:21 One day. Lesley Logan 10:22 Right, I know it's really funny, isn't it so funny? Like, I think we can all, like, see ourselves in this I'm like, oh my god, I gotta write that email, or I gotta go to that thing. I gotta go, and then you go it was like, 17 minutes at the DMV that wasn't even that part. Like, it just feels so heavy. Yes, I understand. I understand. Pav Lertjitbanjong 10:38 Yeah. So it took me one day of focus work to get that going and everything. And to my surprise, when, like, back to when we're talking about, like, you know, when we surrender to God, God actually, like, help pave the way for you and I found almost half a million dollars in a hidden 401k account. Lesley Logan 10:59 That's half a million dollars? Pav Lertjitbanjong 11:01 Almost, close to, yeah. Lesley Logan 11:02 Oh my god. Pav Lertjitbanjong 11:04 So when you talk about save it and you forget it, I literally forgotten that. And no joke, like, serious, and.Lesley Logan 11:13 That's, Pav, that's insane. So, like, here you were, like, broke as a joke on a tiny apartment. Procrastinate. I just want to, like, reiterate this so that people, like, stop procrastinating, procrastinating and wallowing all these things. Then you do the paperwork and you have a half a million dollars.Pav Lertjitbanjong 11:30 Yes, close enough. So, so yeah, like, my life literally just kind of changed overnight, you know, with that one power of budgeting. Lesley Logan 11:39 And by then you'd learn how to budget. So that's great. So probably best, probably best. You had to learn how to budget first.Pav Lertjitbanjong 11:46 Exactly, exactly. Yeah. So that was basically like my moment that, you know, my whole life, Lesley, like okay as a woman, and actually not all women, but maybe like the way that I was raised, I always thought that, okay, the only way for me to become a millionaire, to become financially free, I need security of a man to help me.Lesley Logan 12:10 Oh, you're, I mean, I think, first of all, so in the States, women couldn't get their own credit card until, like, their 80s, 1980s right? So, like, like, in my lifetime, right? And I think I can't remember when women were allowed to buy their own homes, but at any the reason why, like, people are always like, oh, there's so much divorce now there's, no, women couldn't leave shitty shit because they couldn't own a home, they couldn't often find work, and they certainly couldn't have a credit card. So like, yeah, Pav, like, we're of the age where, like my mom, like her mom, couldn't, didn't have a credit card when she was of her own right. So my mom is the first person in my family that could have her own money. So I think a lot of us have that, that we're not raised with that. And so what you see around you, because that first generation above you, they all had to go through that. That's how they were raised. So it's completely normal to think that. And I think what's really cool is we've now had 40 something years of it. So it can change where we we all can be billionaires, and then we can marry someone, whether it's a man or woman who also is a millionaire, and then we can have more money that we can do good things with.Pav Lertjitbanjong 13:13 Yes, the more the merrier, Lesley, yeah, and I think, like to your point, basically, I think what went through with my life, even though I suffer for a long period of time, I felt that it actually was proud of myself that I was able to help, like, break the generational curse, you know, because that were, like, what you talked about, you know, like there were women that didn't really have those opportunities.Lesley Logan 13:40 No, and they weren't loved either, like, not for who they were, yeah, my gosh, Pav. So you get to this place where, like, oh my gosh. Now you're not devastated. I mean, you're devastated from the divorce emotionally, but you're not devastated financially. You have, you have a jumping off point. So can we, can we jump ahead to like, how do you go from like, okay, I am now I'm gonna go now I have a half million dollars. It's not enough to like, retire off of today. But how do you go from that to like, I'm gonna help people be layoff ready? Because one of the things that, like, I feel is so topical. We talked about this before I hit record, it's like, there's a lot of people being laid off right now, and with AI, which has its own devastating effects and also great things. We use AI all the time, like, there's going to be more. And so I think, like, you know, in case, in case, someone can't just randomly find an old 401K they forgot about, how do we prepare them?Pav Lertjitbanjong 14:33 Yeah, okay, so you have asked so many amazing questions. So like, let me break it down. So like, number one you were asking about, like, okay, how did they kind of jump start from like, okay, that's aha, moment that okay, finally, it can be my own rich man, or at least the starting point until, like, okay, helping people, right? So I think, like, ever since then, I realized that okay, now I can be my own rich man, that I cannot rely on the security of a man to. Lesley Logan 15:00 No, you don't have to. Pav Lertjitbanjong 15:00 For anything, right? Even though, like, okay, great, we, we would love to find my soulmate. I mean, our soulmate, and I'd love to have a rich husband again, but you're not better version. But, yeah. But I think ever since then, I realized the power of financial literacy and, you know, really becoming my own person, because I always had low self-esteem, Lesley, you know, I think it's just kind of like what we talk about, the general generational curse. So anyway, since then, I started, like, okay, studying investing, personal finance, you know, make sure that okay. Like, by the way, I don't think that I dropped that bomb on you yet. But I also, like, with that marriage, I had about $100,000 debt. So with the money that I found, even though I had the 401K, you cannot liquidate the whole thing, right? Because you pay so much taxes. Lesley Logan 15:52 There's rules. Pav Lertjitbanjong 15:53 Yeah, exactly. Like, like, it's your money, but it's not your money. Lesley Logan 15:58 Right, right, right, right. Pav Lertjitbanjong 15:59 Yeah. So okay, so I had to find a way to, like, supplement that. How can I make more money? So, like, one is okay, I already have a corporate job. It's good paying, but obviously it didn't really help fund my entire lifestyle because, like, I used to live large, but now on my own, I need to, like, okay, number one, downsize my life a little bit more. You know, like, I can't really go to, like, three Michelin star on a Friday, you know, if I want to, these days, you know, something that you have to, like, really plan on. And then, let me forewarn you, it doesn't apply to everyone, but for me, I actually strategically leverage debt to help me pay debt.Lesley Logan 16:38 Yeah, heck yeah, girl, are you, I haven't had one come in the mail, but I definitely when I was like, getting out of homelessness and getting back on my feet, I was like, oh, this card will let me be interest-free for 18 months. Heck yeah. We're taking this card move all this debt over, so now I'm actually paying it off, and now I have 18 months to pay this off. Yes, yes, I hear you. I, there's, but there, because there is better, there is better debt out there. Yes, for sure.Pav Lertjitbanjong 17:06 Exactly, yeah. So free money. So one thing led to another, I was and then Covid happened. You know when people talk about and okay, like, let me just be clear, Covid totally suck. Like, that should not happen, but for me, I was lucky, in a sense that okay, during Covid, you know, I got to work from home. You know, as a tech worker, you get to work from home, and I had a little bit time, you know, like during, like, early hour, because I work West Coast hour before to really do a little bit of day trading, you know, like, maybe the first two, three hours after the market stopped before I actually work my real job, and I got lucky, I was able to buy at the lowest, probably, and it kind of bounced from there.Lesley Logan 17:52 Yeah, that's what you're I mean, like, when everything was going crazy recently and going low, like our neighbors like this, I'm like, I'm not even looking. I'm literally giving them more money. I'm gonna give my people more money to go play in the other places that it's gonna be good. Like, obviously, to avoid these but, like, we'd be smart about it. But like, this is how people got rich in the Depression. You gotta buy when it's low and during those Covid times, good for you. You know what I'm hearing from you Pav is, like, you're not afraid to do something that is a little scary, and you're not waiting for someone to tell you it's okay. Like, that's pretty badass.Pav Lertjitbanjong 18:27 I've not always been that way, Lesley, but thank you. It's an honor hearing that from you. Lesley Logan 18:33 Well, I mean, clearly the, maybe it's the divorce that, like, made made you that way. You know what I mean? Because I think sometimes we go through hard things, we're like, whoa. Like you develop a skill set because you need to, you know, so, like, I think that's really cool. Pav Lertjitbanjong 18:45 Thank you. Yeah, and I think, like, the most important things, actually two things that I was able to gain from the divorce, not just, like, the money part, which that is great, right? Like, with investing, one thing led to another. I was able to, like, you know, make a lot more money from there. And by the way, I got a promotion after, you know, when I decided, okay, like, I need to make more. You know, the Power Focus is when you focusing on something like it actually happened, because God was just like, make sure that he orchestrate everything for you.Lesley Logan 19:17 Well, also you're putting yourself out there, and you and you said the right words, focus. I think a lot of people go, I don't have this, as opposed to, where can I get this? You know, like, you're like, I need to make more money. What's in front of me? And so I think that that's a really important distinction, because a lot of people like, I have no money, and they sit around going wallowing, I don't have any money, I'm having and they're like, look, there are days for crying, like you are going through a divorce, there's a few. You should have a few fuck, fucking crying days on the floor. But then you have to, like, get up and go, okay, what do I want? What can I do with what I have? And so I love the like, I'm gonna put in for a promotion. Like you don't get a promotion if you're not ready for it. Like no one's doing in corporate., as a woman, no, you had to earn that so, like, I mean, like, I'm sure there's not all corporations do that, but like, let's be real. Like, a lot of them, you have to prove that you are more than qualified for that job. So way to go.Pav Lertjitbanjong 20:12 Yeah, thank you. And by the way, to add on top of that, like, when you were talking about, if you don't ask, you don't receive. Like, that's so true, because, like, I had a co worker I came to and I asked her, like, hey, I want to put you on a promotion list, you know, as an endorser for this quarter. And she's like, oh, thank you. I really appreciate that. But, you know, I am like, I think I thought it was due to for promotion, like, last year. I'm like, well, have you ever asked for it? No. Like, if you never ask, you never get it. You don't get it.Lesley Logan 20:43 Oh that is, you know, it's unfortunate, but like, it's true, like, a lot of people get places because they just asked, you know, like, there's even just some opportunities that I have had because I just asked, not because I was qualified, you know, I mean, I had to be qualified enough. But, you know, like, sometimes it's just like, who, you know, so, or what, who, whom you ask. So, I love that. So, okay, so you got a promotion, you play the stock market, and then were you like, were you always thinking about, okay, I can't wait. Like, I want to retire from corporate early. Was that like the plan? How did, how did you go from like, getting promotion, working corporate and day trading, to going, okay, I'm gonna help people prepare their lives for a big change, like a change outside their control, because that's what Layoff Ready is. It's like you're ready if a change outside of your control happens.Pav Lertjitbanjong 21:32 Right. Yeah, Lesley, and that's such a great question, and to be honest with you, like I've always had in my mind that I want to retire early, because ever since I was young, I always knew that, like, this is not it, like my life should not be in PowerPoint and, you know, be a corporate robot. And even though, like, let me just tell you, I know, like some people talk about, like, burnout, or, you know, like, how they've been treated badly by their companies, I feel very fortunate, like my career so far in general, that I have been treated very well for the most part, and I'm really, really, really grateful for that. But I think I've always, like, had that goal that I wanted to be able to retire, like, before 45 or like 50, you know, and really do my own thing and live my life. But let me just tell you I never had that courage, too. So when you told me about, like, hey, Pav, you're a badass, you know, thank you. I can confidently say that yes, Lesley, today's Pav says yes, I am a badass. But like, maybe, like, two months ago Pav, or maybe, like, whatever, you know, 40 years old Pav will not be that. Lesley Logan 22:38 I think it takes time to realize, like somebody in one of our communities, just like, mentioned, like, something happened that four years ago, right? And I was like, and it's so easy to go, oh my god, it's been four years, like, as a long time, and then it's like, it's only been four years, like, I can't believe how, like, what you've done in like, such a short time. So, like, it's, of course, like you recognizing your boldness and your badassery, like, in the last couple of months versus three years, like, there's, I don't think that's even you don't have to just, you can act that's fine. That's exactly when you found it, you discovered it. And I think that's important because, like, there's going to be days we don't feel like that. But also we have to look back and go, whoa look what I did in such a short period of time, you know, like, a short period of time, like, that's kind of a lot of growth. So let's talk about Layoff Ready a little bit, because I think a lot of people think it won't happen to them. Oh, it's gonna happen to that person, but I'm really great at my job, or I'm, you know what I mean, like, I'm really excellent at this. Like, what are some things people need to be thinking about, or just, like, reviewing, you know, because it's gonna take them a couple weeks that they should be looking into to make sure that they're layoff ready. Like, what are some signs, or what are some actions? Pav Lertjitbanjong 23:47 Yeah, so first, and thank you for asking Lesley. So Layoff Ready is a freedom-based financial preparation. So it's not just like, oh, you know, like, hey, this is like, your investment advisor telling you to like, okay, this is how you allocate your your investment so on, right? But this is more about like, how can you really design a life that you really want to live in, you know? So to to decide a life that give you the option for freedom if you want to, it's not about like, hey, you know, tomorrow, or everybody goes and go into the office and like, hey, I want to quit my job because I'm layoff ready? Some people, maybe you really love the job that you're doing. But you know, like, what you touch on is, with this economy, is your job really safe? Not really, with AI rising, I don't think that anybody is safe, right? Like, for God's sake, people been talking about what like by 2032 we may not even like have jobs the way that we see it.Lesley Logan 24:47 Oh yeah, I think, and that's 2032 that is, that is a very short time away. It is seven years like I'm an optimistic person most of the time, and when I think about what AI is going to do, I. I think about like, it's not going to be great for everybody. It's going to be great for those who can use it. It's not going to be great for everybody. So I do think that like preparing ourselves to understand, like, what, what is a life we want to live. And I love that, like going through that so that no matter if you choose it or it chooses you, you can be, you can be, you know, you'll still cry, but you can have a next step.Pav Lertjitbanjong 25:24 Exactly, yeah, and I think, like, you know, it's also beyond, like, the financial preparedness or the career preparedness, but like, the emotional clarity and preparedness that comes with that, right? Like, basically, it gives you an option to be able to walk away from a situation or a job or even like people, or like, in my case, like a marriage that no longer align with with you, with your goal in life. And so for me, I think layoff ready, layoff proofing your life is about like, you know, being like, strategically creating options for yourself so you never feel stuck. Like, you don't wait for security, you create it, and you build the skills and the incomes before you need them. And you also, like, you know, help you stay adaptable, knowing that job security is an illusion, but the career resilience is real, and that's what I think is so critical these days.Lesley Logan 26:20 So many takeaways. But like, we don't wait for security. We create security like that, that is key, Pav, that is like, I think a lot of people have a false security with their gigs, with their jobs, you know. And I think also, you know, the way the world works, it gives them that false security. Like took my husband and I over two years to prove to the powers that be that we could afford a home, because we don't work for anybody but ourselves. Never mind that ourselves have made more money year after year. You know, like every tax season, you can see that where our company is growing, they're like, oh, but you work for yourself. No, that's not trustworthy. Well, I'm not gonna fire me. So like, feels pretty secure, if you ask me. But like, I think it's like creating that security and creating the things around your life. You know, when we were talking about Covid, like, which was terrible, yes, yes, yes. But let's talk about this. The good thing is that came as a lot of people evaluated what they were doing and what they wanted and what they needed, because they were laid off, you know, they were forced to do it in a way. But like with what you're doing with people now is like actually helping them decide it ahead of times they have to leave, right? Like they're not, you're not necessarily encouraging them to leave, but you're just helping them create the ability to have a decision.Pav Lertjitbanjong 27:40 Exactly, yeah, and, and I also think that when you layoff-proof your life, it not like, not only it just gives you options, but it actually gives you peace of mind as well. And I think, like, in this day and age, especially at our age now, it's, it's the most important. I think, like, it's like, way more important, even beyond, like, money or success.Lesley Logan 28:03 Yeah, yeah, no. I mean, I agree. Like, you know, they say, like, we have six, there's six needs we all have universally. So certainty is one of them. And like, we all crave it, right? Like, craving that certainty, like, the job is going to be there, the money is going to be there. But we also crave uncertainty. We want things to change, right? But what you're talking about and what you've promoted yourself to doing you retired from corporate to do this with people is like, help them be able to make a decision for themselves and have certainty around it.Pav Lertjitbanjong 28:40 Right, yeah. And I think one, one important thing too, Lesley, that I feel like we have been lied to, is I don't think that we need that much in life in general, like in this capitalism society, like, do we need, like, you know, 10 handbags or.Lesley Logan 28:57 Well, I do, but some people don't.Pav Lertjitbanjong 29:01 More power to you. More power to you.Lesley Logan 29:04 But I, but I do agree, like, it is interesting. Like, I actually believe in a healthy capitalism, right? Like, I actually think, like, Netherlands is really great. Like, I want to live there. They have a community-based capitalism. I'm in. But I do think that you're right that, like, there's a lot of lies, that the more stuff we have, the more rich we are. When really, like, I'm looking at a very full closet and like, when was the last time we opened this closet door? Like, when do we use these things? And so I think that there is something about what you're saying is like, we can layoff-proof of our life by just evaluating, like, are we living a life that we actually want or are we living one that we we're lied to about. Pav Lertjitbanjong 29:44 Right. Exactly. I think, like my point on.Lesley Logan 29:47 I'm sorry, I cut you off because I, because people know I have a lot of handbags.Pav Lertjitbanjong 29:51 Trust me, me too, like I used to work so close to Fifth Avenue, so totally understand, and that's why I never had savings when I was younger. Anyway, but, yeah, like, basically, you don't need millions to retire early if you want to. There are different types of retirement, or, like, we call it like a FIRE, right? The FIRE movement, Financial Independence Retire Early movement. So there are different types of FIRE that allows you to retire early. Like some people, for example, can, you know, retire with, like, a super tight budget. Some people retire with big budget, with what? So what that means they need to make more money, and they need to invest more and they need longer time to invest, right? Or some people, they call it like a barista FIRE. So for barista FIRE is more on you you basically you retire, but if you still, like, keep a part time job that gives you benefits, and, you know, like, still earn.Lesley Logan 30:45 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's like, my dad, because he can't sit still. Can't do it.Pav Lertjitbanjong 30:51 I mean, whatever works for, you know, for for him, or, like, for each person is totally different. But yeah, like, I before I retire, and I would say, like, now I'm more, like, you know, kind of in a way, like a same might retired, because obviously, like, I don't think that we can actually, like, sit still and just, okay, like, today I'm just gonna go to the beach and do nothing, even though it's so cool, but you get bored, right? But, but, yeah, like, you can live with so much less, and you don't need millions of dollars to retire. I think that's what I I've learned from that, and how I came to that realization, though, Lesley is because of the numbers. So, you know, like, when you were talking about, like, how can people prepare to, like, layoff-proof their lives? How can people prepare to like, you know, if they want option to retire early? Like, what's the first step to get there? I would say, know your numbers. So there are only three numbers that you need to know that is so important, like, one is your net worth, assets, minus liability. The second one, I call it FU funds. People have different definition of that, but my FU fund is more like an emergency fund. You know, when you talk to experts, because sometimes people say, okay, like three to six months. I don't think it's enough these days with inflation, right? You need, like, Yeah, six, twelve months. So, basically, exactly. So that's the money that you can kind of walk out if from any situation, if you want to, it's kind of like, okay, if you I go by kind of situation. And then the last one is the one we discussed, like, on the fire, like, how much money you need to invest in in the market in order for you to, like, take a smaller amount in, on average, I think it's about 4% that you can take safely from your investment, so that you can live on and still have some money left to.Lesley Logan 32:34 Reinvest if that that's working for you. I that's great. I think that makes it so easy. Because I think a lot of people think like, oh, gotta think about my retirement. I gotta think about my life. Oh, I got laid off crap. And it's like, if you only have to focus on three numbers, it makes it really simple. And I love this idea of, like, barista fire. These are fun. These are really great. Pav, who are you most excited to work with? Like, who do you want to like, are you do do like, who is it that you're wanting to make sure that you help people like, Layoff Ready?Pav Lertjitbanjong 33:08 So I typically work with more, like a high achiever, people in corporate but I think the most I would say, like underserved market is women, right? Like, women, especially a little bit older, like, 40 plus years old that has been in corporate for a while, and are more prone to be laid off. I think these are the demographic that I'm like, so excited to work with, because essentially, that's kind of like me, in a way. You know, I think when we pursue our, like, real, true passion project, or like I call like God's given purpose, you actually are serving the people that. How do I say that? Like your younger self, in a way, basically.Lesley Logan 33:54 Totally, everyone who listens to this podcast is, was me. Maybe there may be there different ages of the my younger version of but yes, we are all with we're the best. We are best able to serve the people we once were. So I love this. Pav, this is so exciting. We're gonna take a brief break. Find out how people can find you, follow you and work with you.Pav Lertjitbanjong 34:14 Yes, so you can find me on Tiktok at momentsofreset, M-O-M-E-N-T of reset, or layoffready.com. Lesley Logan 34:22 layoffready.com Yeah, I can't believe that wasn't, good for you, that was waiting for you momentsofreset and layoffready.com. All right, Pav, what bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted steps do you have for us to take away from this episode? Pav Lertjitbanjong 34:36 Okay. So bold doesn't have to be loud, but it has to be true. The life that you want is not built at once. So it's built in the micro moment of honesty to yourself, so until one day the outside world catches up, and you know, you just be it to till you see it, and people will see it too.Lesley Logan 34:57 Oh, that is so beautiful. That is actually so true, those micro moments of you being honest and you're that's so wise, Pav, and then the world catches up with you. I love, instead of us. I love that. I love that so much. Pav Lertjitbanjong 35:11 Thank you. Thank you. Lesley Logan 35:15 I, well, this is so fun, because it's not like I don't always have people who've been listening to show for a long time move and slowly being it till they see it on the show. Like it's just not something that happens very often. And so it's just so cool to hear the full circle. And for for everyone to hear the full circle of you going through the life that you went through, doing the hard thing, you know? And now you've got something that can help other people do it too. I mean, like, that's just beautiful.Pav Lertjitbanjong 35:42 Yeah. And thank you so much, Lesley, for I think, like, the work that you have done actually has not just only helped me, but I'm sure, like, it has helped thousands, if not millions, of people. You are doing God's work. So I think, like, I wish that that would be more of you. So thank you so much for all you have done. Thank you.Lesley Logan 36:01 Oh, Pav, I can't, you're the last thing in my day today, and I've never received that. I'm going to take it with me on a vacation. I'm so, so grateful. You know, if we all give ourselves the credit that we would give other people, right, we would realize that, like, we actually are doing great jobs, and it's just hard. It's just hard because you don't see all the efforting that's happening. You don't see all the people whose lives, but even you, Pav, saying thank you. And also you're going to give so many people permission on this show, you know whether or not they call you to be Layoff Ready but maybe they actually just go, oh, wait. I can actually just fill out that paper. It's gonna take one day or, oh, I actually need to sit down and think about, like, what do I want? What does wealth mean to me? Like, I think that it's just so cool, and you've just given some great things. So now you're on your way to impact more and more people in the world and it's going to be a better place because of people like you and people like me and people who are listening to this podcast. You know, people listening to this podcast, you guys are amazing people, cheerleading people all the time. And I say this to the people I coach you are the only person who can do what you do the way that you do it. You are it. And so don't be quiet. Don't be soft. Don't hide your magic, because there's people who are literally waiting for you. You know you're the only one. So, Pav, thank you for stepping out and creating Layoff Ready. I'm super excited for what you're doing and for the people who are gonna experience it. And everyone, share this with a friend who needs to hear it, someone who needs to hear a journey that someone's been on, someone who needs to hear that there is ways to prepare themselves. So no matter what happens, they're ready for it and but they even they can be like a barista fire. That's so cool. Didn't even know that. So Pav, thank you so much. And until next time everyone, Be It Till You See It.Lesley Logan 37:42 Hey, be it babe. So what I love so much about the guests that we bring on is that they continue to research what they are experts in and dive in deeper. And when they find new ways of helping people, they always reach out and let us know. And Pav has been doing a ton of research and science around. How to make decisions under pressure and what your nervous system is going through, and different things like that. So if you are working in the leadership experience or you're trying to dive more into that, or you have, you notice you're having a hard time making decisions. She's also coaching and advising people in that capacity. So if you enjoyed her energy and her way of thinking about this topic, you're gonna love what she's doing over there. Lesley Logan 37:43 That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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Attorney and success strategist Amber Fuhriman joins Lesley for a raw and empowering talk about perfectionism, people-pleasing, and the hidden fear behind our need for clarity. Amber opens up about how achievement became her coping mechanism and how trauma can disguise itself. Together, they unpack toxic positivity, hyper-independence, and what it really means to redefine success on your own terms. You'll walk away with Amber's SOS system to ask for help before burnout hits.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:How people-pleasing can quietly sabotage your goals and boundaries.Why success and busyness often mask deeper emotional pain.How “seeking clarity” hides perfectionism and fear of making mistakes.The real cost of toxic positivity and how to embrace hard emotions.How Amber's SOS system helps you stop overthinking and take action.Episode References/Links:Break Your Bullshit Box Facebook Community - https://www.facebook.com/groups/morethancorporateAmber Fuhriman's Website: https://www.successdevelopmentsolutions.com90-Day Success Jumpstart - https://jumpstart.successdevelopmentsolutions.comRory Vaden's TED Talk - https://youtu.be/y2X7c9TUQJ8?si=yV69LFYhwgBlc4zYTiny Habits by BJ Fogg - https://a.co/d/0MOylqVGuest Bio:Amber Fuhriman is an attorney, success strategist, and speaker who helps high achievers create success aligned with self-awareness and authenticity. 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We both lost our dads at the age of 18. We both had siblings that we felt like relied on us. There were these things that were identical to who we were, yet I went to law school and he went to jail. He became a drug addict. He has turned his life around now, and he's clean and sober, yet people look at him and they say, you're such a screw up. And people look at me and they say, you're so successful. What they don't realize is we were numbing the same thing. Academic accomplishment was my numbing mechanism. If I did enough, if I focused on something else, then I wouldn't have to feel what I was going through.Lesley Logan 0:49 Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 1:32 All right, Be It babe, get ready. This interview, we go on the best journey. It's so good. The Be It Action Item was great. There's also some really good action steps to take within the interview. Amber Fuhriman is our guest today, and I wanted to have her on because I got to be on her amazing podcast. And I loved her questions so much. I loved her responses. I loved the conversation. I was like, she should be on this show, because if anyone's been being it it till you see it, it's her, and we talk about people pleasing and perfectionism and success. And I just think you're going to have a really great time. I think it's going to be really eye opening. Pay attention to the SOS thing. I think that's a killer. And let me know what your takeaways are. I want to hear about it. So here's Amber Fuhriman. Lesley Logan 2:10 All right, Be It babe. Get ready. I know this is going to be a great conversation, because I've already had the pleasure of meeting this woman on being on her podcast, and we could have gone on for hours. So I just decided, well, let's just continue the conversation over on my podcast. Amber Fuhriman, can you tell everyone who you are and what you rock at?Amber Fuhriman 2:27 I'm so excited to be here, and I agree with you. We could have talked forever, and you just meet people. It's crazy we're both in Vegas, because I think our response was, how have we not crossed paths? Like, how is two amazing people that it is fantastic not met before now, so I'm so excited. To sum it up, I'm a recovering perfectionist, a people pleaser that is learning how to not people please. I'm an attorney, a, it's a struggle, man, the struggle bus is big on the people-pleasing train, right? Yeah. I am a attorney, sometimes in recovery, sometimes not. And I do coaching and human behavior and podcasting and all of the things.Lesley Logan 3:05 Oh my gosh. I think everyone their ears perked up when they heard, oh, you're a recovering perfectionist and a recovering people-pleaser. like, hi, who are you, like, we're listening? Because the people-pleasing, looking to start there, it is really hard. And I think it's like, I think some people don't even realize they're people-pleasing. I think that they think they're being kind.Amber Fuhriman 3:24 Yeah. I think that's so true, and I also think we don't, we've never been told to talk about it, because people-pleasing is what we were told we were supposed to be as not even just women. I mean, I do think women have it more than men, but I don't want to exclude men from the conversation of people-pleasing, but I do think that we as women were told that our job is to be there for other people. We are traditionally put into nurturing roles. I remember being the only female attorney at the criminal defense firm I worked at before I started my business, and we had a really sensitive case, and I remember them coming in and saying, Amber, we need you. We need a woman's touch. And I said, you, and you asked me, like, have you not met me? Like, I'm so rough around the edges. If you need somebody that can nurture this poor woman, I should be your last choice. I can look at six men that will do a better nurturing job than I will, but there's this perception that we're just supposed to take care of other people.Lesley Logan 4:20 Yeah, yeah. And it's like, can you, do you know, like, what are, in case people don't know, what are some signs that they are a people-pleaser? Do you have that off the top of your head, like?Amber Fuhriman 4:30 Yeah, I think the one that's coming to my head the most right now is that you care about what somebody else is going to feel about your actions more than you care about what you're going to feel about your actions. So you go to say something or do something, and the first thought you have is, but what will the other person think? And I am, I want to clarify that there's zero part of me that's telling you to go around being an asshole, just for the purposes of being an asshole, but if your authentic self and you speaking your truth and who you are, is going to piss somebody else off, then let them fucking be pissed.Lesley Logan 5:05 Oh, okay, so here, my mind went so many places, because one of the things that, we coach Pilates studio owners a lot, and so we're small business owners, and, like, also just in life, go out, and I like talking to small business owners, and it is amazing how many people, like, don't want to change their policies, don't want to charge for a late cancelation and won't raise their rates because they are so concerned with how it's going to affect the other person that it's actually affecting their business from making the money it needs to make for them to stay in business. And it's like to your point, of course, I'm not an asshole who doesn't care how they feel, and I don't want to lose them as a client. But also, if I don't make enough money doing this, when I am working with clients, they are taking a spot from someone who could pay me so that I can actually provide for my family, so I cannot put their feelings so far ahead that I'm actually suffering.Amber Fuhriman 5:53 Yeah, and I don't think we think about it that much right, like if I am speaking my truth and I'm being me, and I'm being authentic to who I am, and that upsets somebody, and I think, oh my gosh, I can't say that, because they're going to be upset. Are they putting the same thought process into whether they're asking me to be somebody different than who I am? Right? Why is it that we are the ones that have to adjust and and I know this is going to trigger some people out there, so you're welcome and I love you, because the reality is one of my favorite sayings is that your actions are all about you, and their responses are all about them. So whenever I have somebody who responds emotionally to something that I'm doing, the first question I ask myself is, were the actions that I took in alignment with who I want to be as a human being. Do I need to adjust something? Are they rightfully upset? Did I act out of alignment with who I am? If I did, then I have some apologies to make. I have some internal work to do. I have some questions to ask, but if I can look back and say I am 100% congruent with the actions that I took, and yes, I want to repair this relationship, and I will be there for you when you're ready to have a conversation, but I will not apologize when I am 100% in alignment with my actions. This is a conversation you get to understand and accept me for who I am, or don't accept me, and it is a beautiful place to get to, but it's not easy. Lesley Logan 7:17 Yeah, thank you for clarifying, like how you can self-reflect, to just address and also double check what you're doing. Because I think especially if you are trying to not people-please as much, you're going to need that set of tools to help you get there, because you're going to have people who get pissed off. The first people who get pissed off are your close family and friends who will get that's who you're people-pleasing for so many years are not going to like when you start acting different.Amber Fuhriman 7:43 Yeah and I think family and friends is the hardest, because they're going to support you the least by nature, which is not all their fault. It's human behavior, right? We exist. So for the people that are listening, there's this term that I love in NLP, called perception is projection. And basically what that means is we project all of the things about ourselves out onto the world. So everybody that we come in contact with is meant to teach us a lesson, positive or constructive about ourselves, right? So we can only see the world as we are. So when we start making positive changes in our life, when we start becoming the next version of who we are. We are fucking with the perception that our friends and family have held of us for a really long time, and that messes with their identity, because now they're faced with, do I level up or do I stay and leveling up takes courage and getting out of a comfort zone and something that not everybody's ready to do. So when they're faced with that choice, sometimes it's easier for them to try to convince you not to change than it is for them to face their own bullshit of whether or not they're going to be willing to join you.Lesley Logan 8:54 Oh my gosh. Everyone rewind. Hear that one more time. It was so good. It's so good. We can keep going on this path. But I also wanted to say, like, maybe let's go on a journey with you. You like, have you always wanted to be a coach? Did you always want to, like, dive into helping people with success and things like that? Or was like being an attorney, like the thing you wanted to do? Like, what's the journey that got you to where you are today, podcasting and helping people like you do?Amber Fuhriman 9:18 Yeah, the answer is neither. So I will say that going to law school was a trauma response for me, and because it was a trauma response, the question I hated the most was, what made you decide to go to law school, or why did you go to law school? Because I never had an answer. For me, I grew up in, I was born in the '80s, grew up in the late '80s, early '90s. So I say that because that period of time, for those of us who were raised there, we were taught that we put in enough hard work and there was this level of payout that's gonna come at the end, right?.Lesley Logan 9:50 Oh yes, yes, you work hard and you're going to get rewarded, also. Amber Fuhriman 9:54 Hard work pays off, I fucking hate that phrase. Lesley Logan 9:56 If you add that, if you add a layer of religion in there, the same thing, like, there's a lot of gold at the end of all of this for the people who do everything perfectly right, and work harder than yesterday. And you know what? Also, also, you should do 110% at work just to prove that you deserve the paycheck you're getting, and then be happy that they didn't fire you and not give you, like, like, all these different things. But anyways, keep going.Amber Fuhriman 10:24 Yeah, yeah, no. So, so you get it. And then the second part of what I'm about to share is the reality that we often say what it is we want to have, but we don't articulate the reason those things are important to us. And so we never understand and get to make the connection of whether what we think we want is actually going to bring the payout that we think it's going to bring. So let me bring this down a little bit for you. So I grew up in the world where money equaled success, success equaled happiness, and I was in so much pain. So I talk about this in my book, when I decided to go to therapy in 2016 and decided is an overstatement, when I was suffering from panic attacks and had no choice but to go to therapy because I couldn't breathe, in 2016 it was the first time I had ever heard the term abandonment disorder. I didn't know what that meant. And then I started looking back at my life, and I started experiencing death for the first time at the age of seven. My cousin, I had two suicides in my family before the age of 14. My dad died when I was 18. Like our brains don't comprehend that somebody died. They just comprehend that somebody's gone, right? So for me, I was just so used to people leaving me that it created this belief that people aren't going to stick around, and I've got to be super hyper independent, along with that, after my dad passed away, when I went to a grief counselor for the first time, the first thing they did was try to put me on antidepressants. And I never wanted to be medicated, so in my brain, that connected if I talk to anybody about not being okay, they're going to medicate me, and I don't want that, so I just pretended I was good, until I couldn't pretend anymore. After my dad passed away, I failed out of undergrad. I was the first person in my family to go to college. I really struggled with this idea of grief and success at the same time. So when I was at my rock bottom, I thought, something's got to change. I've always loved legal thrillers. I fell into the trap of thinking that life as an attorney was a John Grisham book, which it is, sadly not. My dad and I talked about me going to going to law school. He thought I'd really like it. He was no longer here, so it was kind of a connection to him. But most importantly, it's the only way I knew to make six figures, and that money equals success. Success equals happiness. Happy people don't feel pain. So in 2016 after I'd gone to law school, I'd made my first six figure income. I had the respect in my profession, and I still hurt. I didn't know how to breathe, and that's when my panic attacks started. It was learning the human behavior behind choices, healing from my own choices, uncovering and dealing with the masks that I put on throughout my whole life as I saw the benefits of that. That's when coaching kind of opened its doors to me.Lesley Logan 13:22 Wow, thank you for that whole journey. And I think I can, I don't, I don't have, I didn't have the grief part of it in my childhood, but I definitely had the hyper independence, like, you know, I, I, there's pictures of me as a little girl, like, making my own breakfast, because my dad was, like, very into, like, build a bit, like, you have to be able to take care of yourself. And like, so like, as a three year old, like, the bowl of cereal was poured and the milk was in the fridge, and I had to grab the milk from the fridge, it's already poured in a cup for me to fill my bowl. And, like, I love the independence it taught, but also, layered with that whole, and my parents for good reason, like, they live in a small town. They do not have money. So if they're like, if you want to have a life that's not like this, you have to go to college, because college is going to guarantee a paycheck.Amber Fuhriman 14:12 It's so comical now, right?Lesley Logan 14:13 It guaranteed a lot of student loans. I'm glad, of course, I'm glad I went. I would not be here today had I not gone on that journey, because I don't believe anything happens without happening for us, but because I'm but I did laugh as like in the 2008 recession, when I was a full time Pilates instructor that is not why I went to school for, and I was like, well, this $700 month student loan bill sucks, but I wouldn't have found a Pilates had I not been there. So, like, all these different things happen for the way they go. But it took me a really long time, and I'm still learning today, it's probably the thing, the hardest thing I'll ever have to learn is like, I cannot do it all alone. So I'm constantly thanking my team. I'm constantly thinking, my team. I have to remind myself, my team. And then when things go wrong, I have to the my first reaction is like, I could have done it better, and I have to go, no, I could have explained it better. I could have, maybe I could reflect back and see where I could have checked things more. I could have. But, like, I that hyper independence is a really hard thing, I think for a lot of women, because what they do is they just do everything themselves, and then they're burnt out and they're pissed off, and they'are resentful. Amber Fuhriman 15:19 Yeah. Yeah. And I think so when you say I could have done it better, you're saying you could have done it better than the team or better than. Lesley Logan 15:26 Myself. I could have done it better myself. Amber Fuhriman 15:27 You could have done it better yourself. Lesley Logan 15:28 Yeah, which is not true, because I can't even do, I can't even like, do technology myself, so.Amber Fuhriman 15:34 Right. And I fall into that often. And the reason I asked for clarification was because I wanted to make sure I understood what you meant. And maybe we could have, right, done it better, but we can do it better once, and then they get to be better at it by doing it over and over again. But I think more importantly, have you ever heard Rory Vaden's TED Talk, Procrastinate on Purpose? Lesley Logan 15:56 Yes, yes. Amber Fuhriman 15:57 Oh my gosh. I love this so much. And one of the things that he says in there that really sticks with me is by saying yes to one thing, you're saying no to an infinite amount of other things that you don't even know yet. So when we say I could have done that thing better, maybe that's true, but what is the thing that we actually did better that we wouldn't have been able to do had we focused on that thing that we might have done better? Right?Lesley Logan 16:20 Yeah, yeah. I think that's so good. And I think, like, we, I, we all have our things that we are overcoming. And like, it'll think you, you're in the coaching world, so, like, maybe you can address this. I think the perfectionist in us, and in all the people listening, is that, like, we should get over it. And I've determined, or come to some comfort thinking that, like, nothing you're ever over it, you just get quicker at identifying that you're in it and that you have to deal with it. Amber Fuhriman 16:49 What is it, the perfectionism? Lesley Logan 16:51 The perfectionism or the thing that you're like, whatever your whatever your trigger is, so like, the hyper independence, or the people-pleasing, or it's not that you're like, you just like, overcome it and it's behind you and you'll never do it again. It's like, I think that, like, it still comes up in different levels or different ways, and you have to go, oh, I recognize it a little sooner. Like, instead of it taking days for me to get over it, like, whatever it is, like, I it takes me an hour, or takes me five minutes, I go, oh, that's me falling into that trap again.Amber Fuhriman 17:20 Yeah, I think it's so important to focus on that, because one of the things that we do in our trainings is we help people with some emotion-related conversations, which is basically every conversation we're ever going to have in life. So when we think about some of these perfectionism and people-pleasing and even overthinking or lack of delegation, or whatever the behavior is, usually that is tied to some emotional response that's usually tied to anger, sadness, fear, hurt or guilt, which are five major emotions. Normally when we're talking about what, what the purpose is of these behaviors, we can tie it back to one of those five emotions. So as we do the emotion work, the behaviors start to shift, and one of the biggest ones is fear, right? I'll ask people, what's the purpose of not delegating? Well, I'm afraid it won't get done as good if I do it, or I'm afraid like somebody will see it and it won't be mine, and then that'll trigger this imposter, or whatever it is, right? So when we're talking about this, understanding what we're actually feeling when we experience those behaviors is so incredibly important, so we can deal with those emotions, but I think also being able to tap into what the purpose of those behaviors are. So whenever somebody that I'm working with has a behavior like perfectionism or lack of delegation, or whatever the it is, I'll ask them, what's the purpose of this? And they're like, well, it doesn't serve a purpose. And my response is always, it must, or else you wouldn't do it, because every behavior has an intention. So what is it that you're gaining or avoiding by doing these behaviors, because that's where the real work is done.Lesley Logan 19:03 This, as a habits coach that's the same thing, like BJ Fogg, who I study with, he said there's no such thing as a bad habit, because every habit serves you. If you don't like a habit that you have, that's okay, but there's no there's they're not good or bad. It's just, like they all either they're providing certainty or safety or there's a actual positive feeling you're getting from it in your brain, even if you don't like that you do. If you don't like that, you scroll. There's something that you're getting that's a dopamine hit that your brain is like, this makes me feel good. Now, to unravel that, we have to figure out what the prompt is, and we have to figure out, you know, how do we get that same, a similar feeling with something else that you actually do want? But I, thank you for (inaudible) that journey. Can I ask, like, I think, like something that stuck out, and we don't have to talk about this, if you don't want to, but like, you mentioned that like going to law school is like a trauma response. I feel like most people wouldn't think that like going and taking yourself to school would be a trauma response. I guess I'm wondering, like, what are, what are some trauma responses that people might not realize that, like, that's a trauma response they'd be doing. Like, can we talk a little about trauma responses?Amber Fuhriman 20:06 Yeah, absolutely. And I'm an open book, so I will go anywhere you want to go. So let me give an example. This is when I started to realize that it was kind of a trauma response. I have a really good friend of mine that I did a podcast interview with about four years ago, when I first, first started my podcast, he's one of the first people that I met in the personal development space, and one of the reasons we connected is because we had so many similarities in our life. So if you took away our names and our identities and our genders, and you looked at just the dots that were important to our identity, we both had a history of suicide in our family. We both lost our dads at the age of 18. We both had siblings that we felt like relied on us. There were these things that were identical to who we were, yet I went to law school and he went to jail. He became a drug addict. He has turned his life around now, and he's clean and sober, yet people look at him and they say you're such a screw up, and people look at me and they say you're so successful. What they don't realize is we were numbing the same thing. Academic accomplishment was my numbing mechanism. If I did enough, if I focused on something else, then I wouldn't have to feel what I was going through. And I think that we fall into this trap of thinking that because our and I'm really careful when I compare this, because our addiction is socially acceptable. We convince ourselves that it's healthy, right? But it's not. We're still numbing. If you're I mean, obstacle course racing that I did for a really long time was a numbing mechanism for me when law school didn't work. At some point in time, we get to feel the feels. At some point in time, we get to just be human and be enough without feeling like we need to be or do or become something more when we feel that way, when we feel like I am enough right now, then the things that we want to do and become become additional exciting opportunities for us, instead of the thing that is going to fix us or heal us. And I think that's the difference. So when we, when I look at law school as a trauma response, the only reason I can say that it was one is because I didn't go to law school because I wanted to go to law school. I went to law school because it was supposed to fix or stop the pain of something, and anytime we do one thing because it's supposed to make us not hurt, I think that there's some trauma in there, and that doesn't mean it's a bad thing. It just means that we get to take it for what it is.Lesley Logan 22:46 Yeah, I think, my yoga teacher was I interviewed on my podcast, and his he was talking about, like, everyone's label things as good and or and bad. And he's like, that's just not really how it works. He's like, you can't have happiness without sadness. You can't, like, all these things have to exist for you to feel happy. You have to have felt pain. Like, that's the only way you can do it, which I think is really interesting, that we were taught like, success equals happiness and happy people don't feel pain. That's not true. But he also said, like, you know, in our society, we tend to think, oh, someone who drinks wine at the end of the night is numbing, and that's bad. But actually, like, there's been a lot of people who have even said like Mindy Pells, he said it there's someone else who's like, if that glass of wine helps you relax after a hard day and allows you to connect with your family, allows you to talk to them and to be fun, it might not be bad. Now, if it's you're doing it every night, too numb from the pain of work and also ignore your family, then it's not really serving you. Then it's so like, we do have responses to things, and as long as we're evaluating like, how is this actually serving us? Is it serving us? Is it actually serving the people that we say we love? Then we can't we need to stop being so hard on ourselves about some of the things that we're doing and that some things that we might not deem healthy aren't really healthy. Because I actually really liked that you told that story. You know, I have a real, after living in L.A. and living around unhoused people for as long as I did, just it's really, it's like nails on a chalkboard when someone says that they're lazy, why don't they go get help? Why don't they use resources? And it's just like we have no idea what their life was that led them here. Most people who are mentally healthy do not choose to live on the streets. You know, like, most people.Amber Fuhriman 24:27 And only that, like, I love that we went here, and I'm gonna piss some people off here in just a minute. So remember, you love me. I just did a keynote in Nashville in March, and my keynote is, every victim needs a villain, and it's so easy for us to look at people who live on the street as being a victim and be the person that's like, why don't you do this, or, why don't you do this? What about the person that wakes up pissed off at their job every single day and doesn't take control of their life? What about the person that wakes up and doesn't run their business the way that they want to do or that they could in order to make more money? What about the person that wakes up without good relationships with their family and then allows those relationships to destroy them inside? Because they have a roof over their head, doesn't mean that they're any less of a victim than anybody else. So we get to sit back and say, yeah, it's really easy for us to sit here and judge this type of victim, because we can look at them and we can identify that they are not societally acceptable. But your type of victim, whatever it is you're a victim of, because I promise you, every single person is a victim of something. It's a lot less easy for us to look internally and say what am I not taking control of in my own life?Lesley Logan 25:40 Yeah, Gosh, what a great TED Talk. And also, like, I think, like, what came to my mind is, like, a lot of people are like, well, my problems aren't as bad as so it's not that big a deal.Amber Fuhriman 25:50 And that works double sorted wise, right? Yeah, because, number one, my problems aren't as bad as this, so I don't need to deal with them. It's really unfortunate because the person who is living unhoused didn't wake up one day and live unhoused. There were not that bad problems that started it right. But second of all, the other side of that is when it comes time to become something great we also use that to say, well, my life didn't have the transforming moments because my problems weren't that bad, so I don't have anything to share with the world. So we get to just stop comparing ourselves in general, and say there's this thing that I don't like about what's going on right now, and regardless of whether somebody else has it worse, I still get to deal with this thing. And I want to tangent just a little bit, because you mentioned something earlier that I want to make sure that we dig into, which is the success happiness thing and it's toxic.Lesley Logan 26:46 You're reading my mind. Yeah, we're going here next.Amber Fuhriman 26:50 Toxic happiness and toxic positivity culture that some people live in, like I absolutely despise affirmations, the way that they are traditionally taught, which is stand in front of a mirror and tell yourself you're pretty until you believe it. Because this fake it till you make it mentality doesn't work. And if I don't think that I have self-worth, and I don't think I'm pretty, and I don't think like that I'm capable of whatever, then standing in front of a mirror and lying to myself about it isn't going to do a goddamn thing, except for convince myself I'm a liar, right, right? Lesley Logan 27:21 Well, the brain doesn't like distance, so you can't, that's why this is not called fake it till you make it, right, like, that's. Amber Fuhriman 27:26 Yeah, which I love. I love. So we get to pay attention to what that voice is. When you stand in front of a mirror and you say, I can have a seven figure business. I can have an eight figure business. What does that voice tell you? Because instead of just telling that voice it's wrong. We get to understand where does that voice's beliefs come from, and heal whatever that is that makes us believe that. So, and I'm not saying like so, the best way that I've ever seen affirmations done is to say this is who this is what I want to accomplish. This is who I need to be in order to accomplish it, and this is who I think I am now, so that you can see the gap between them to become it, and then your affirmations become things about yourself that you are in control of, that you are committed to being in order to level up to that next step of your life. So that's the first side. The other side is this toxic positivity and happiness. Like, if somebody else looks at me and says just think happy thoughts. I'm going to shove them through a glass window. Like, so I want people to hear this, because especially in the clickbait side of personal development, there's like, just feel better about yourself. Yeah, that's great. Like, thanks for the million dollar advice. Lesley Logan 28:38 It's like when someone says, well, you know, calm down. It's like the same, the same visceral response happens, I think, like, there, as we know, as you and I know, on the other side of things, yes, you can always look back on a rear view mirror and go, that shitty situation was a great thing to help me pivot. But while you're in the shitty situation, what you don't need to hear is just think happy thoughts. This is going to be great, like this is no no one needs to hear that from you. They can come up with that themselves, but at first they do have to feel the feelings of the shitty situation.Amber Fuhriman 29:16 Yeah and when I hear that, so the one for me that really resonates, and the reason I laughed is because when I was suffering from panic attacks, I would love it when people would say, Amber, just breathe. And I'm like, have you ever had a panic attack? I'm telling you, that's what I'm not capable of doing right now. Like, I would love to just breathe. You make it sound so simple. I like it takes every thought that I have in every ounce of focus to get air in my lungs right now. So just breathing doesn't seem as easy as you make it sound, but I think the other side of this just think happy thoughts, comment that you made is it makes us feel like we're doing something wrong, or that we are wrong because we're not okay. And it is okay to not be okay, it's just not okay to stay not okay, right? I got a. Water bottle at a conference I went to once that said nobody drowned by falling in the water. They drowned by staying there. So like we get to acknowledge like I'm not okay right now, how long am I going to allow myself to not be okay, and where do I need to be and who do I need to be around in order to be okay? So in this, in this vein, I encourage all of my clients to create an SOS list. And I actually encourage them, if they have an iPhone, to go into their text replacement and come up with an SOS phrase and replace SOS with their SOS phrase. So for example, mine is, I'm stuck at the airport because my so my SOS moments are normally overthinking. And I remember talking to a good friend of mine, and I was venting about what direction I was going to take my business. And I was tired of constantly feeling like I was having the same conversations about growth and not taking action and all the bullshit. And I said you know what I feel like? I said, I feel like I'm stuck at the airport. And she says what do you mean by that? And I said, I feel like somebody has given me an all expense golden ticket, paid vacation to anywhere that I want to go in the world. All I have to do is pick the plane that I'm going to get on. But instead of actually choosing a plane, I'm standing in front of the departures board looking at which one that I want to do, over analyzing every decision, and then I become Tom Hanks living in an airport, right? So for me, any choice I made would be a better choice than what I'm doing right now, but I'm so overthinking it that I can't express what I want. So I think that what's important is when we're in those moments we are sometimes so in our thoughts that we don't know how to ask for help. So if you have that close knit group of friends that you can say you are on my SOS list. If I text you and say I'm stuck at an airport, I am in my shit. So whatever your phrase is, what you'll find, and what's beautiful is that the moment you send that message, your brain knows that it's okay and you will normally have the answers that you're looking for before they even call you back. It's that decision to ask for help that allows your brain to say, okay, now I can see solutions. So if you if you find yourself in those places, pick two or three people, reach out to them, get their permission, I'm going to put you on what's called My SOS list. This is my SOS phrase. This is what it means to me. If I ever send this to you, it just means that in that moment, I really need somebody to check on me because I don't know how to ask for help.Lesley Logan 32:32 Oh, my god, that is so good. And I love that so much, because it makes me think of like Brené Brown said, like, I have five people. I have a name of five people in my life whose opinions of me matter, and they know that their opinions may matter, and if I have bad feedback or something comes up, I look at that list and it's like, okay, well, they're they're not my five person list. So who are they? So it makes me think of that. It's like having these lists of people that can help us, because it is, it is hard to fall in the water, not judge yourself for falling in the water, not get frustrated that you're back in the water and then, and then you're like, okay, I get to feel my feelings, and then somehow it gets becomes a habit, and you're still in the water, right? Like, so I really do like that like, we get to fall in the water, we can actually feel these feelings, and then when we're ready to get up and ask, like, we have a way of asking for help, which isn't like, I need help right now, because that is so the recovering perfectionist in the world, like that is like you that's like a that's a four letter word is I need (inaudible). Amber Fuhriman 33:30 Yes. Well, because a lot of this perfectionist thing comes from, you know, everybody's different, so I hate lumping behavioral traits into this is where they come from, but I've seen some trends, and a lot of it comes from believing that we had to be something in order to be valued and loved and worthy of connection, right? That just ourselves wasn't, so if we are imperfect, that means that we're unlovable, and I find that there's a lot of that connection between perfection end. And then the other thing that I love right now is the word clarity, that, because I see that everywhere, and I remember my coach telling me. Lesley Logan 34:10 (inaudible) having an authentic moment, clarity is. Amber Fuhriman 34:12 Yeah, yeah. Like my coach kept saying, so when are you going to take action? And I said, I just need some clarity. Just need some clarity. And I didn't realize how much I said it, and I'll never forget her telling me, Amber, you realize clarity is just the word perfectionist used to not use the word perfection. I'm like, I hate you right now, and I love you.Lesley Logan 34:29 I have a coach who said certainty is perfection in disguise. I'm like, fuck you. You're right. Like, like, I need it. Amber Fuhriman 34:39 I hate it when you're right. Lesley Logan 34:41 Yeah. You're like, I know that. I knew that. Amber Fuhriman 34:44 So, there's this, there's this video. This is what I feel like when I talk to my coach sometimes, there's this video of a little boy. I'll have to send it to you, and you can put it in the show notes. It's hilarious. A little boy, and you know those slides that we grew up with, like, not the safe ones that kids have today, but the metal ones that you were either going to burn your ass on when you go down, or you were going to end up bruised because you went so fast that you hit the gravel. Yeah, we didn't have those soft, padded, black, safe surfaces that kids get now. So I was watching a video of this little, maybe six year old boy, and he's walking towards this death slide that we grew up with, and he's carrying a blue toboggan behind him, and you can see that in his little six year old boy brain, he's going to climb up the stairs of the slide and ride the toboggan down this metal death slide. And his mom's videoing, and I love this so much, because his mom says, if you're going to be stupid, you better be tough. And his response is, I know you told me that lots of days. And so like I feel like every single time my coach says something to me that makes sense, I'm like, you tell me this all the time. I know I'm still going to take my blue toboggan up my death slide and figure out how this works in my own damn choices. And then you and I are going to figure out how to fix the outcome, right?Lesley Logan 36:07 Oh, my god, please send it. We have to link it. And also it's, it's, well, I mean, so as applied instructor, I was teaching someone in my group who's in my mentorship program who's trying to up level her teaching, and I was giving her some breakfast, like, I know, but like, I should be able to do it by now. And I'm like, okay, hold on. Like, I know that you know what the exercise is supposed to look like. I know that you've been doing this for years, and you, your body has been able to cheat its way through this. And I also know that you signed up to no longer do that. The problem is that your body wants to do the easiest thing, because it's just that's it's trained to conserve calories. It's literally trained to conserve calories. So we know that the new way, the better way, the more the stronger way, the more connected way is better. But to rewire our brain to do it that way, to do it that way is going to take more calories. So our body wants to do the easiest way. And I think, like us, you know, use clarity or certainty or have these other the perfectionist person of us is like, okay, I'm not. I'm going to work on being imperfect. And then our brain's like, oh, look at this thing over here. This is a great way to, like, hide out and take notice, because it's harder, it's more calorie-consuming. It's more awareness. It requires more thought to actually not like, to actually live in that imperfect place, and like be willing to make a mistake or be willing to get on the wrong flight, or be it requires more calories. So our brains and bodies are very good at sneaking around and taking shortcuts.Amber Fuhriman 37:41 Yeah, I love it. And one of the things that's coming to my mind right now, and I think I'm going to go do this. I've never done it before, and I think I'm going to, and I would encourage some of your listeners to do it and let me know how it goes. I want to leave my house without a plan one day, and I just want to, like, find out where I end up. And maybe, since we're both in Vegas, we can leave our houses without a plan together and just figure out what choices present themselves to us and where we end up when we don't have a expectation of how our day is going to turn out.Lesley Logan 38:12 Okay, we're, we're setting a date to do this. I have three months in town, so let's set a date where we do this, and then, and then we'll have a date the next day to talk about it.Amber Fuhriman 38:21 To talk about it, right, like, what opportunities do we miss? And I'm not telling people they shouldn't plan like my my schedule is like, completely planned out because it's important to but I also think that every now and then we need days where we just figure out where we would end up if we didn't have expectations about what the day would look like, what would we say yes to, and what opportunities do we miss when we're so focused on something else?Lesley Logan 38:46 Because, I mean, like when we go on vacation, some people can't have a vacation day that's not over planned. My husband, I went on vacation earlier this year after our big tour. Our tour was 8000 miles, like 22 cities, 47 events. Like every day is planned out. Otherwise we don't make it on the tour on time. So we have a vacation that's planned after every tour. And I took him to this hotel I love, and we literally laid by the pool, and I got so I read two books, and I got so bored. I was okay, I'm really bored now. It'd be a good time for us to, like, do something else. And he's like, what do you want to do? I'm like, I don't know. Why don't we just drive into town and see what we see. And like, had the best time wandering around a town, you know. But like, like, we do this when we're on vacations, ideally, you relax and you have but like, we don't ever do it like, on a on a day that normally we planned out or in our own towns. It makes me think of artist dates I'm in. I love it.Amber Fuhriman 39:35 Yeah, let's do it. I also want to share for those of like, because we've talked so much about perfection, I love, and I would encourage, if your listeners are artistic, they can they can do this, or they can go, like, find a picture on the internet. But whenever a friend of mine or a client of mine talks to me about perfection, I'll ask them to introduce me to their unicorn, and they'll be like, what are you talking about? And I said, Well, if we're gonna talk talk about things that don't exist, then we might as well talk about unicorns, right? So, like, just think about, like, we would never say, I can't go do something today because I have to take care of my unicorn. Everybody would be like, that is out, like, that's so dumb. Like, unicorns don't exist. Exactly, exactly, my friend.Lesley Logan 40:20 Okay, I have one more question, because I would love, I mean, I get, I feel like I get this asked all the time, and we brought up success, enough like, how, how do you define success now? Because I'm assuming it's changed since it's no longer get rich to be happy and not feel pain.Amber Fuhriman 40:38 Yes, it has absolutely changed. Yeah, freedom, which I know really isn't a definition. I love when people define words with other non-definable words. So I'll go a little bit deeper on that. For me, I love knowing that if I wanted to pick up and go to Nashville for a month, I can pick up and go to Nashville for a month if I have a friend who needs me, or if my family needs me, I my uncle passed away, or, I'm sorry, my cousin passed away in August, and I was able to just go stay with my aunt for I call him my uncle. This is why it's so hard. They're so much older than me. But either way, I was supposed I was able to go stay with his wife for a little bit and not have to worry about work, because I could travel so location, freedom and independence is so incredibly important to me, and then feeling like I'm in control, you know, not necessarily not having responsibilities. One of my coaches quotes that I steal from her all the time, so I'll give her credit, is choices of powerful things, suffering is always optional. So when I step back and I say, whatever happened today, I was in complete control of my choices in how I spent my day. So if I am not happy with the way my time was spent, then I get to look at my choices to determine how I'm going to avoid repeating that again in the future, where did I spend time that I didn't want to spend time? So time and location freedom is my definition of success right now. Lesley Logan 42:08 I do love that. I do love that. Okay, well, we could obviously talk for hours. We're gonna take a brief break, and then we're gonna find out how people can find you, follow you, work with you. Amber Fuhriman 42:15 Sounds good. Lesley Logan 42:16 All right, Amber, where'd you like to hang out? Where are all the places people can hear your amazing words of wisdom more.Amber Fuhriman 42:24 So first of all, the I have a free Facebook group, which we are revitalizing. It's been pretty dormant for a while, and I'm committed to changing that. So if you want to be a part of that revitalization, called the Break Your Bullshit Box Community on Facebook, so you can go check that out there, other than that, socials and the book and all of that stuff is on my website, at successdevelopmentsolutions.com.Lesley Logan 42:49 Amazing, amazing. Okay, you have actually given us so much. There's a few things I'm like, well, that's a Be It Action Item. Well, that's a Be It Action Item. But for the for the bold, executable, intrinsic, targeted steps people can take to be it till they see it, what do you have for us? You can take from what we've already gone over, or you can add more. Amber Fuhriman 43:04 Yeah, so I think the first thing that I would say is, if any of your listeners are interested in taking that next step, I do have an online 90-Day Success Jumpstart Training that starts to get you into some really actionable steps. So if they're interested in that, they can go to jumpstart.successdevelopmentsolutions.com. The actionable piece that I really want to leave people with is an understanding that you have complete control, like you make decisions every single day, whether you realize you make decisions and if there is anything that you are not 100% happy with in your life, then we get to dig into what decisions you're making to create that, because avoiding making a decision is still a decision. So what choices are you making? And how can we make different choices? So that's the actionable piece I would leave them with. Lesley Logan 43:54 Love, love, love. Amber, so fun. Okay, we have a date to make about our unplanned day, and then also a date just to be in person. You're wonderful, amazing. You guys, share this with a friend who needs to hear it. Share this with that people pleasing friend who doesn't realize that they are. They won't know that we told them to do that until they get to this part. And then, yes, that was for you. 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You know those moments when you're deep-cleaning the stove instead of doing the thing you actually need to do? That's productive procrastination—and it might not be a bad thing. In this episode, we explore how procrastination can sometimes help you move forward… and when it's just avoidance wearing a productivity costume.What you'll learn:The difference between helpful procrastination and harmful avoidanceHow to use “procrastivity” to build momentumSigns you're avoiding something vs. intentionally pausingWhy giving yourself freedom can actually boost follow-throughTurns out, your rebellious side might be onto something.Free Resources:
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PURCHASE THE AUDIOBOOK: https://storyoriginapp.com/universalaudiobooklinks/3ae86714-9bd8-11f0-b6dd-8b7acea9a55eIn this deep dive into inner alchemy, shamanism and energy medicine, bestselling author and renowned sound healer Sol Luckman addresses mortality head-on ... and shares a nondogmatic solution to this “problem” that will shock and inspire you!You don't need to create your inner Philosopher's Stone and “get out of here alive” to benefit massively from the author's wisdom.You don't even have to practice the potent techniques he teaches for recovering energy, erasing trauma, and restoring mind-body-spirit health.Uniquely and elegantly, this book will upgrade your life in the here and now by empowering you to …* Simplify your existence* Digital-detox your mind* Maximize the power of silence* Procrastinate your way to creativity* Connect with the superpower of your uniqueness* Establish a beneficial relationship with your shadow &* Follow your bliss on your own Hero's Journey to wholeness and authenticity Thank you for subscribing. Leave a comment or share this episode.
Today's encore episode shares a simple strategy to end procrastination and overwhelm in midlife called “minimum baseline.” It was originally published as Episode 324 on October 5, 2023. When you find yourself full of procrastination and overwhelm, you may also notice how bad you feel, how much time you waste, and how hard it is to feel good about small amounts of action. It can feel like you're going nowhere fast. Learn more: https://suzyrosenstein.com/podcast/ep-426-encore-minimum-baseline-strategy-for-procrastination-overwhelm-in-midlife/
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Send us a textSomething shifted when I heard about Charlie Kirk's assassination. Though I wasn't his follower, his silencing struck a chord deep within me—a wake-up call for those of us who've played it safe with our faith. Have you felt it too? That nudge to stop hiding, to speak what you believe despite the cost?Jesus warned us plainly: "If you live on God's terms, the world is going to hate you." As a Gen-Xer who spent decades in survival mode, building comfortable walls around my life, I've avoided boldness. But when the Holy Spirit stirs, procrastination becomes disobedience. The prophet Haggai's words cut straight to my heart: "How is it that it's the right time for you to live in your fine new homes while God's temple is in ruins?" Where have I prioritized my comfort over courage?What Satan doesn't understand is that silencing one voice often awakens millions more. You don't need a perfect life or a massive platform to speak truth—just a yielded heart and the Holy Spirit's power. When we choose to meditate on what's true, noble, and beautiful as Philippians 4:8 instructs, our minds begin to filter the world differently. While forces try to hijack our focus with fear and division, God is stirring His people across generations. Your voice matters. Your testimony counts. Will you join me in rising up, speaking truth, and rebuilding what's been neglected? Download the journaling prompts in the show notes to process what God might be saying to you, and let's walk this bold path together.Download Your Heart and Soul Elevation Journal Page HERE.It's time to rediscover YOU. Join the Reignite Your Flame Facebook group—a supportive community where women like you find peace, joy, and purpose. Together, we'll nurture your mind, body, and spirit so you can shine again. Don't wait to start your journey back to yourself. Join Reignite Your Flame HERESupport the showAre you a woman over 40 who is on the verge of a mental or physical breakdown? Are you ready to invite peace, joy, and excitement into your life again? Download 5 Tips to Feel Joy Again in Under 20-Mintues AND Join the Reignite Your Flame Group on Facebook where women, just like you, come together to support, encourage, and connect. Music by Adipsia
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TABLE OF CONTENTSPreface & Introduction 1️⃣ Chapter 1 2️⃣ Chapter 2 3️⃣ Chapter 3 4️⃣ Chapter 4 5️⃣ Chapter 5 6️⃣ Chapter 6 7️⃣ Chapter 7 8️⃣ Chapter 8 9️⃣ Chapter 9 1️⃣0️⃣ Chapter 10 1️⃣1️⃣ 1️⃣2️⃣ Chapter 12 1️⃣3️⃣ Chapter 13 1️⃣4️⃣ Chapter 14 (You Are Here) 1️⃣5️⃣ Chapter 15 (
⚠️ FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE ⚠️Sol Luckman's Bestselling New Book Receives a Warm Literary Welcome!https://solluckman.substack.com/p/immortalityReaders' Favorite is one of the largest book review and award contest sites on the Internet. It has earned the respect of renowned publishers like Random House, Simon & Schuster and Harper Collins and have received the “Best Websites for Authors” and “Honoring Excellence” awards from the Association of Independent Authors. It is also fully accredited by the BBB (A+ rating), which is a rarity among Book Review and Book Award Contest companies.⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ Reviewed by Asher Syed for Readers' FavoriteGET OUT OF HERE ALIVE: INNER ALCHEMY & IMMORTALITY by Sol Luckman presents a philosophical spirituality system in which reality is created by belief, observation, and internal focus rather than external facts.He argues that the universe is an energetic projection shaped by consciousness and manipulated through societal structures he calls the “Matrix,” controlled by a predatory “Dragon” intelligence.Drawing from quantum theory, shamanism, and epigenetics, Luckman rejects materialism and promotes conscious attention, simplicity, and creative expression as tools for transformation. He claims that negative emotions fuel parasitic entities and that conspiracy research often traps people in feedback loops of belief.Instead, he advocates for reclaiming inner agency, confronting internal shadows, and aligning with the “Dark Sea of Awareness” to consciously reshape both self and perceived reality.GET OUT OF HERE ALIVE … is a sharply written and highly focused work that invites readers to reconsider the nature of attention, belief, and perception. The prose is strong and deliberate, with a tone that remains steady even while presenting unconventional material. Luckman offers memorable concepts, such as “loosh” and pronoia, that support his call to reclaim focus from systems designed to harvest energy.His treatment of the “truthing” phenomenon, where individuals reinforce limiting worldviews through obsessive external research, is pointed and clear. A brief example involving the feedback loop of conspiracy material demonstrates his case without overreaching.The book encourages the redirection of desire inward, and its pacing allows space for contemplation without sacrificing momentum. Readers seeking intentional, well-expressed ideas about perception and agency will find value in this work. Very highly recommended.
Are you putting off the life God has called you to live? Are you letting fear, laziness, or comfort keep you stuck on the sidelines? In this week's 10-minute equipping episode, Pastor Jim Ramos goes straight after the silent killer of men's dreams—procrastination. You'll discover the real reasons men delay action and practical steps to crush excuses and start living with courage, discipline, and impact. This episode is sponsored by MTNTOUGH Fitness Lab, a Christian-owned fitness app. Get 6 weeks free with the code ARENA30 at MTNTOUGH.com. Every man needs a locker room. Join a brotherhood of like-minded men in The Locker Room, our bi-monthly live Zoom Q&A call! We meet in the Locker Room twice a month for community, fellowship, laughter, and to help each other find biblical answers to life's difficult questions. Sharing community with t hese amazing men is one of the most enjoyable things I do. - Jim Ramos https://patreon.com/themeninthearena Get Jim Ramos' USA TODAY Bestselling book, Dialed In: Reaching Your Full Capacity as a Man of God (https://tinyurl.com/dialedinbook)
In This Episode: procrastination coach, clutter in midlife, anxiety, nervous system regulation, midlife women, productivity tips✨ Show Notes:What if your procrastination isn't about laziness at all—but about overwhelm, anxiety, and old habits?In this week's special guest episode of The School of Midlife, Laurie sits down with Dr. Christine Li, New York-based clinical psychologist, productivity expert, and host of the Make Time for Success podcast—also known online as The Procrastination Coach.Christine shares her personal journey from chronic stress and bronchitis to regulated calm and focused energy. She breaks down how procrastination and clutter are symptoms of deeper emotional patterns, especially for high-performing midlife women.Together, they dive into:Why women in midlife are especially prone to procrastinationHow anxiety and identity conditioning block productivityWhat clutter is really trying to tell youSimple steps for reclaiming your energy—and your physical spaceHow Christine's free 5-day Decluttering Challenge (starting Sept. 8!) can reset your habits and nervous systemWhether you're burned out, surrounded by piles of "later" clutter, or simply feeling like your brain is running on fumes, this episode will feel like an exhale.
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If you've ever found yourself cleaning the fridge, deep-diving into your inbox or scrolling Instagram, instead of tackling that task you've been putting off - this episode is for you! Today, I'm sharing what procrastination really is and why "just do it" is actually some of the most unhelpful advice out there. If you're feeling stuck, overwhelmed or like you're falling behind, this episode will leave you feeling seen, supported and excited to take one small step forward … Things I Mention - Procrastination is a mismanagement of emotion, not a lack of discipline or motivation The 4 main causes of procrastination How pressure can backfire and make procrastination worse Simple mindset shifts and strategies to overcome procrastination, starting today PLUS, I discuss why practicing progress over perfection matters more and how taking the smallest action builds confidence & momentum. Links & Helpful Resources - Follow FEEL BE LOOK on Instagram - @feelbelook Join the FEEL BE LOOK SQUAD If you enjoyed this episode, please take 2mins to leave us a rating and review. Finally, make sure you hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss any future episodes. Thanks!
If you've been beating yourself up for procrastinating on the big moves in your business, this episode is your reframe.Procrastination isn't laziness. It's proof. Proof that your subconscious doesn't fully agree with the goal you've set. In this episode of The Subconscious Expert, Rebecca breaks down why procrastination is actually a parts conflict in your subconscious, the hidden “secondary gain” you're getting from avoiding action, and how to rewire your mind so every part of you is aligned with your next level.You'll walk away seeing procrastination in a whole new light, not as a flaw, but as feedback. And once you know how to clear that conflict, taking bold action becomes inevitable.Topics covered on Why You Procrastinate:Why procrastination is proof your subconscious doesn't agree with your conscious goalsThe parts conflict that keeps you circling instead of moving forwardThe hidden “secondary gain” you get from procrastination (and how to spot it)Why high level women procrastinate differently than beginnersHow to rewire procrastination into natural momentumRelated episodes you may enjoy:Why Waiting for Proof is Blocking You From Your Next LevelLetting It Be Easier Doesn't Mean You're Losing Your DriveThe Hidden Pressure of Being ‘The One Who Has It All Together'When the Business is Working But You're NotQuote:"Procrastination isn't laziness, it's your subconscious saying it doesn't fully agree with the goal yet. When every part of you aligns, procrastination disappears." - Rebecca HaydonConnect with Rebecca Haydon:Apply to work with meThe Subconscious MembershipCome say hi on Instagram | Facebook | YouTubeFind the full show notes & more resources at www.rebeccahaydon.com/podcast/
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Do you often feel called to share your story, inspire others and make a greater impact in the world? If so, you are what we call a "Mission-Driven Messenger." The challenge however is that we live in a world that's saturated with information and chock-full of "influencers" making it nearly impossible to stand out from the crowd. Everyone from students to CEOs are scrambling for likes, views, followers, and the ever-elusive "viral breakthrough." Well, If you've ever wondered how to grow your influence, multiply your time, and expand your impact without burning out — you're going to want to tune-into this episode and listen to my good friend and leadership and personal brand strategist, Rory Vaden. He is the man with the roadmap to turn your reputation into revenue by mastering the art of personal branding, standing out in a crowded market, and creating lasting influence. Rory is also the bestselling author of Take the Stairs and Procrastinate on Purpose, along with his latest best-selling masterpiece, called Wealthy & Well-Known. Rory is the co-founder of Brand Builders Group (along with his wife AJ) and one of the top thought leaders in the world when it comes to personal branding and productivity. And in this episode of the IMPACT SHOW, we're breaking down the exact strategies you can start using right now to amplify your reach and live out your calling. Here's exactly what you'll discover in this episode: Why multiplying your impact starts with multiplying your purpose. Rory's “Focus Funnel” — and how it helps you reclaim HOURS each week. The 3 biggest mistakes people make when building their personal brand. How to clarify your message so the right people actually hear it. The connection between self-discipline and true freedom. A behind-the-scenes look at Rory's own faith, family, and business journey. My biggest takeaways from working alongside Rory over the years. Friends, this episode is pure gold if you're a coach, entrepreneur, parent, or leader who's ready to level-up your influence AND keep your life aligned with what matters most. Let's keep chasing greatness, serving deeply, and multiplying our IMPACT. If Rory's words fire you up as much as they did me, please do one of 2 things: 1. Download his “Wealthy & Well-Known” book for FREE below. 2. Share this episode with someone in your world who's building their dream and needs the tools to make it happen. And if you haven't yet, drop a quick review — it helps us reach more people who need these conversations. 3. Please share this podcast on your Instagram story and tag me so I can repost. I love seeing all the Todd Durkin IMPACT Show Podcast listeners around the world: IG: @ToddDurkin @RoryVanden #GetYourMindRight #ImpactShow #ToddDurkin #MindsetMatters #WealthyAndWellKnown #Ep439 #IMPACTShow #Podcast Attention: Get Rory's book for FREE right here: Be sure to get your FREE GIFT from Rory → Grab a FREE copy of his Wealthy & Well-Known book at: https://freebrandaudiobook.com/durkin Trust me — this will change how you think about your time and your calling forever. https://freebrandaudiobook.com/durkin Become a Certified ‘GET YOUR MIND RIGHT' Mindset Coach TODAY!!! If you're a coach, parent, or mentor who wants to raise confident, focused, resilient athletes — this is the course you've been waiting for. The “Get Your Mind Right Mindset Coaching Certification” is NOW LIVE. Built by myself and Andrew Simpson — and powered by TeamBuildr — this certification gives you elite tools to coach the mental game like never before. We cover topics such as: Mental toughness & reset frameworks Real scripts & strategies for confidence and composure Visualization, journaling & breathwork systems Tools you can use TODAY — on the field, in the gym, or in life Plus 2 months FREE in our private Mindset Coach Community This is how you build athletes for life. This is how you create lasting impact through sport. Get certified now at: www.gymrcoaching.com Ready to breathe in some Mountain Fresh Air? Want to go deeper on business, leadership and life and create even more success and significance? Ready to IGNITE your passion, purpose, and IMPACT? If so, then join me for our 2025 Annual Mountain Retreat in Whitefish, Montana November 13–16, 2025 This 2.5-day retreat is for ALL purpose-driven leaders, high-performers, fitness enthusiasts/professionals, and visionaries who are ready to dream big, expand their legacy, step into their next chapter with clarity and power…and be ready to be IGNITED with more passion, purpose, and IMPACT!! Save your spot NOW at: www.ToddDurkin.com/mountainretreat2025
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Success often boils down to one simple question: Are you willing to take the stairs while others look for the escalator? Building a thriving real estate career, growing your personal brand, and achieving true success demands effort most people aren't willing to put in. The average person chooses the easier path, hoping for shortcuts. But successful agents and investors understand that taking the stairs—doing the hard things others avoid—is what sets them apart. In today's crowded real estate market, being "just another agent" or investor won't cut it. Clients don't choose services; they choose you. A strong personal brand makes you their first choice, builds trust, and creates opportunities others never see. Without it, you're leaving deals, relationships, and income on the table. New York Times bestselling author of Take The Stairs, Hall of Fame speaker, and Co-Founder of Brand Builders Group, Rory Vaden joins me to talk about the importance of building a personal brand, why it's crucial to lock in on the one problem you can solve and the one audience you can speak to. Successful people do things that most people aren't willing to do. -Rory Vaden Things You'll Learn In This Episode Stairs vs. escalators Success often requires taking the harder path, like choosing the stairs over the escalator, to build discipline and resilience. What “stairs” could lead to greater growth if you chose them over the easier route? Trust before transaction Building trust and serving your immediate clients is more valuable than chasing popularity. How can focusing on trust over followers improve success especially in real estate? The fastest path to warm leads Referrals and presentations are powerful tools for quickly building trust and generating leads in real estate. What strategies can maximize referrals and make presentations more impactful? Guest Bio Rory Vaden is the New York Times bestselling author of Take the Stairs: 7 Steps to Achieving True Success and Procrastinate on Purpose: 5 Permissions to Multiply Time. He is an 8 Figure Entrepreneur, and a Hall of Fame speaker with a TEDx talk that has more than 5 million views. As one of the world's leading experts on the psychology of influence, his insights have been featured on Good Morning America, Fox and Friends, in the Wall St Journal and almost every other major national media outlet. Today, He and his wife serve as the Co-Founders of Brand Builders Group (as well as Vaden Enterprises and Mission Driven Press) where they teach mission-driven messengers to become more well known and to build and monetize their personal brand. They specialize in helping clients to create original Intellectual Property, grow their online reach, publish and launch bestselling books, build their speaking careers, and all things related to impacting and inspiring more people! Their clients include people like Lewis Howes from The School of Greatness, Amy Porterfield, Eric Thomas “ET Hip Hop Preacher”, Tom and Lisa Bilyeu from Impact Theory, Luvvie Ajayi Jones and Ed Mylett. Visit https://roryvaden.com/ Follow Rory on Instagram @roryvaden Find Rory on LinkedIn @Rory Vaden About Your Host Real Producers Podcast is hosted by Remington Ramsey, creator of the Real Producers brand that reaches more than 120 markets nationwide. He is a real estate investor as well as an avid reader and writer. Remington calls Indianapolis home and enjoys life on the lake surrounded by his wife and their three girls. Follow the show on our website, Apple Podcasts or Spotify so you don't miss a single inspiring episode! Start a Real Producers Magazine in YOUR Market! Learn more about franchise opportunities at realproducersmag.com
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Every mom or dad has had moments where you felt like sitting on the couch, and not doing something. John and Danny open up about times they felt tempted to procrastinate. Plus Kristi Clover talks with Jim Daly about how procrastination is usually a symptom of stress. Find us online at focusonthefamily.com/parentingpodcast. Or call 1-800-A-FAMILY. Receive the book M.O.M. Master Organizer of Mayhem for your donation of any amount! Take the 7 Traits of Effective Parenting Assessment Organizing the Chaos in Your Home Contact Our Counseling Team Simple Ways to Organize Your Home and Family Support This Show! If you've listened to any of our podcasts, please give us your feedback.
Merriam-Webster's Word of the Day for July 7, 2025 is: procrastinate pruh-KRASS-tuh-nayt verb To procrastinate is to be slow or late about doing something that should be done, or about doing or attending to things in general. // Tickets to the event are selling swiftly, so don't procrastinate—buy yours today. // Not one to procrastinate, Harry set to work on the project immediately. See the entry > Examples: "Researchers found that individuals who tend to procrastinate often do so because they fear not meeting their high standards or worry too much about failing. The study also showed that this fear of failure and the habit of overgeneralizing failures (like thinking one mistake means you're a failure) strongly connect perfectionism to procrastination." — Mark Travers, Forbes, 28 May 2025 Did you know? We won't put off telling you about the origins of procrastinate: it comes from the Latin prefix pro-, meaning "forward," and crastinus, meaning "of tomorrow." To procrastinate is to work or move slowly so as to fall behind; it implies blameworthy delay especially through laziness or apathy. English has other words with similar meanings, such as defer and postpone, but none places the blame so directly on the person responsible for choosing a later time to do something. Procrastinate is also a malleable word: English speakers have wasted no time creating clever variations, most of them delightfully self-explanatory. Don't let coinages like procrastibake, procrastinetflix, and procrasticlean pass you by; they may not meet our criteria for entry into the dictionary, but their potentials for use are undeniable.
Leave an Amazon Rating or Review for my New York Times Bestselling book, Make Money Easy!The relationship between money and happiness isn't what most people think it is - and Brand Builders Group CEO Rory Vaden proves this through a masterclass that reveals why scattered revenue streams keep entrepreneurs broke while focused strategies create lasting wealth. I joined Rory in his Nashville studio to dive deep into the frameworks that transformed my business from 17 different revenue streams into a billion-download podcast empire. We also explore the emotional blocks that sabotage financial success and the practical systems that unlock abundance. Through powerful metaphors like treating money as a person you're in relationship with and understanding the four quadrants of financial and emotional wealth, this conversation exposes why most people stay stuck bouncing between financial success and spiritual emptiness. The insights here will fundamentally shift how you think about money, business focus, and the pathway to both financial freedom and inner peace.Schedule Your Complimentary Brand Strategy Call With Rory Vaden's Team Today!Get Rory's new book Wealthy and Well-Known: Build Your Personal Brand and Turn Your Reputation into RevenueGet Rory's new book on audioRory's book Take the Stairs: 7 Steps to Achieving True SuccessRory's book Procrastinate on Purpose: 5 Permissions to Multiply Your TimeIn this episode you will learn:Why having multiple revenue streams is terrible advice for beginners and how "diluted focus creates diluted results"The four quadrants of wealth - from being broke financially AND emotionally to achieving abundance in both areasHow to treat money like a relationship and why your current dynamic determines your financial realityThe "Sheehan's Wall" principle that explains why successful people focus on ONE thing until they break throughWhy 10% of your customers will invest 10 times more (fractal math) and how to build profitable business pyramidsFor more information go to https://www.lewishowes.com/1792For more Greatness text PODCAST to +1 (614) 350-3960More SOG episodes we think you'll love:Dean Graziosi – greatness.lnk.to/1766SCAlex Hormozi – greatness.lnk.to/1723SCDave Ramsey – greatness.lnk.to/1758SC Get more from Lewis! Get my New York Times Bestselling book, Make Money Easy!Get The Greatness Mindset audiobook on SpotifyText Lewis AIYouTubeInstagramWebsiteTiktokFacebookX
We all do it - put things off, tell ourselves we'll start tomorrow, and somehow still miss the deadline. But chronic procrastination isn't just a bad habit; it's self-sabotaging behavior that can derail our goals, relationships, and even our health. Psychologist Dr. Joseph Ferrari, a leading expert on procrastination, breaks down the emotional roots of procrastination, debunks the myth that we “work best under pressure,” and offers science-backed strategies for change. Plus - meet one of history's most legendary procrastinators: Leonardo da Vinci. Find out how his epic delays shaped the Mona Lisa, and why some believe he never truly finished it. For more information, transcripts, and all episodes, please visit https://thisisyourbrain.com For more about Weill Cornell Medicine Neurological Surgery, please visit https://neurosurgery.weillcornell.org
In this episode, we explore the real reasons leaders procrastinate—fear, fatigue, and lack of clarity—and offer direct solutions to overcome the delay. Action beats hesitation every time.Host: Paul FalavolitoConnect with me on your favorite platform: Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, LinkedIn, Substack, BlueSky, Threads, DiscordFree Leadership Resources: www.paulfalavolito.comBooks by Paul FalavolitoThe 7 Minute Leadership Handbook: bit.ly/48J8zFGThe Leadership Academy: https://bit.ly/4lnT1PfThe 7 Minute Leadership Survival Guide: https://bit.ly/4ij0g8yOfficial 7 Minute Leadership MerchGrab exclusive gear and more: linktr.ee/paulfalavolitoPartners & DiscountsFlying Eyes Optics – Best aviator sunglasses on the marketGet 10% off with code: PFAVShop now: flyingeyesoptics.comGatsby Shoes – Dress sneakers built for leaders on the moveUse my affiliate link for 10% off: Gatsby ShoesSubscribe & Listen to My Podcasts:The 7 Minute Leadership Podcast1 PAPA FOXTROT – General Aviation PodcastThe DailyPfav
In this solo episode, I delve into the complexities of procrastination, exploring its neurochemical roots and offering actionable strategies to overcome it. I emphasize the importance of understanding the science of flow, mastering engagement, and employing techniques like response inhibition to enhance productivity. The conversation culminates in practical steps to ensure a struggle payoff, ultimately guiding you towards a more productive and fulfilling approach to your tasks. - Timestamps: 00:00 Understanding Procrastination 02:01 The Science of Flow 04:20 Mastering Engagement 09:00 Techniques for Response Inhibition 13:00 Ensuring a Struggle Payoff 15:30 Final Thoughts on Procrastination and Flow - See discounts for all the products I use and recommend: https://everybodyspod.com/deals/ - Shop For Everybody Use code SFE10 for 10% OFF
You've got the budget app. You're reading the personal finance books. You know what you should be doing with your money—so why does it still feel so hard to follow through? In this episode of Everyone's Talkin' Money, Shari breaks down six sneaky psychological biases that shape your money decisions without you even realizing it. From anchoring to optimism bias, these aren't personal flaws—they're predictable brain glitches. But once you spot them, you can stop them. You'll walk away understanding: What anchoring bias is and why it makes that $100 dress feel like a steal (when it's not) Why the fear of losing money feels worse than actually losing it—and how that keeps you stuck How your brain protects old money stories through confirmation bias Why instant gratification keeps winning, even when your future self is begging you to chill How optimism bias tricks you into thinking “next month” will magically fix everything Why social proof bias is fueling lifestyle creep—and what to do instead This is the episode that will make you pause mid-scroll, mid-spend, or mid-self-doubt and say, “Ohhhh, that's what's going on.” If any of these biases hit home, share the episode with a friend and DM Shari @everyonestalkinmoney to keep the conversation going Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Quick—nothing's batched and an episode's due tomorrow. What do you do? Panic? Procrastinate? Skip it and hope no one notices? Sure, you could ghost your audience—but what does that really cost you? Authority. Credibility. The listener trust you've worked so hard to build. That's why in this episode, I'm giving you 8 plug-and-play ideas you can use anytime your production schedule falls apart and you're about to spiral into “I'm failing at podcasting.” These are the exact strategies I've used when a hurricane hits, school randomly shuts down, or I'm on vacation. They've never failed me in over 5+ years of podcasting—and they'll save you one day too. So if you want to run your podcast like a pro (and make sure one rough week doesn't undo the consistency, trust, and credibility that set your show apart) hit play and let's dive in.1:18 – Why Skipping an Episode Does More Damage Than You Think3:02 – The Backup Plan Every Pro Needs for Sick Days, Travel Plans, and Life's Curveballs4:44 – 8 Plug-and-Play Ways to Save Your Schedule When You've Got Nothing Batched10:52 - Why These Backup Strategies Are My Secret Weapon for Consistency14:36 – How to Take a Structured Hiatus Without Breaking the Trust You've BuiltOther Episodes You'll Enjoy:How Do You Fit Time to Prep Your Podcast Into Your Schedule?→ This episode was recorded on the Deity VO-7USupport the showLiked this episode? Share it with a fellow podcaster! Love this show? Say thanks by leaving a positive review.Register for Courtney's Free Podcasting Workshop: How to 10x Your Business with a Podcast in 2025Schedule a 1:1 Podcasting Audit with Courtney. Curious about PodLaunch®? Book a Demo to see if our podcasting mentorship is the right fit for your business. Connect with Courtney: Linked In | Instagram | PodLaunch HQ ©Ⓟ 2018–2025 by Courtney Elmer. All Rights Reserved.
Natalie talks with coach Tiffany Han about why procrastination isn't about laziness but a response to being chronically overextended. Learn how to stop beating yourself up and start working with your natural capacity rather than against it. Episode show notes: Tiffany Han's website: Tiffany Han Insta Tiffany Han's procrastination freebie Leave a voice note: https://www.speakpipe.com/baggagereclaim Support the podcast and leave a tip: https://baggagereclaim.ck.page/products/podcast 'Reclaimed' membership: https://www.baggagereclaim.co.uk/reclaimed/ Work with me: https://www.baggagereclaim.co.uk/consultations/ Baggage Reclaim: https://www.baggagereclaim.co.uk Shop courses and books: https://store.baggagereclaim.com Sign up for my newsletter: https://www.baggagereclaim.co.uk/newsletter/
When New York Times bestselling author and entrepreneur Rory Vaden wanted to get better at public speaking, he went out and spoke 304 times… for free. It was perhaps the best investment he could have made in himself and his abilities. In this episode, Rory will explain how to communicate effectively and show off your authentic self while building trust. In this episode, Hala and Rory will discuss: (00:00) Introduction (02:54) Rory Vaden's Journey to Success (05:21) The Power of Public Speaking (09:40) Building a Personal Brand (24:44) Overcoming Procrastination and Time Management (32:04) The Concept of Multiplying Time (36:32) Personal Branding Strategies (38:01) Mastering Book Launches and Monetization Strategies (38:38) The Key to Personal Branding (39:53) Breaking Through to Notoriety (46:20) The Power of Focus (51:13) The Importance of Personal Branding for Professionals (57:00) The Three E's Strategy (01:01:50) Common Mistakes in Personal Branding Rory Vaden is the New York Times bestselling author of Take the Stairs and Procrastinate on Purpose. He is an 8-figure entrepreneur and a Hall of Fame speaker with a TEDx talk that has more than 5 million views. Today, Rory and his wife serve as the co-founders of Brand Builders Group, where they teach mission-driven messengers to become more well-known and to build and monetize their personal brand. Their clients include people like Lewis Howes from The School of Greatness, Eric Thomas “ET Hip Hop Preacher”, Tom and Lisa Bilyeu from Impact Theory, New York Times bestselling author Luvvie Ajayi Jones, and #1 Wall Street Journal bestselling author Ed Mylett. Sponsored By: Shopify - youngandprofiting.co/shopify Airbnb - airbnb.com/host Rocket Money - rocketmoney.com/profiting Indeed - indeed.com/profiting RobinHood - robinhood.com/gold Factor - factormeals.com/factorpodcast Rakuten - rakuten.com Active Deals - youngandprofiting.com/deals Key YAP Links Reviews - ratethispodcast.com/yap Youtube - youtube.com/c/YoungandProfiting LinkedIn - linkedin.com/in/htaha/ Instagram - instagram.com/yapwithhala/ Social + Podcast Services - yapmedia.com Transcripts - youngandprofiting.com/episodes-new Entrepreneurship, entrepreneurship podcast, Business, Business podcast, Self Improvement, Self-Improvement, Personal development, Starting a business, Strategy, Investing, Sales, Selling, Psychology, Productivity, Entrepreneurs, AI, Artificial Intelligence, Technology, Marketing, Negotiation, Money, Finance, Side hustle, Startup, mental health, Career, Leadership, Mindset, Health, Growth mindset.