The Best 5 Minute Wine Podcast

Let's get down to the wonderful story of Summerhill Pyramid Winery. Stephen, your accomplishments would fill a New York City phone book. But let's start back at the beginning. Where did all of this begin in connection with the Earth of the land and begin? It goes back to my childhood. I love growing things in the soil, being outdoors, and climbing trees a little. As a little boy, I've always been an outdoor kid, and I, you know, got involved in real estate development in a way that would save the wetlands and the steep slopes and very involved in early in the 60s, 60s hippie, if you will, out there protesting the way people built things. I was one of the founders of why environmental rules are so strict today, why they can't just fill in wetlands and stuff like that was my original push in New YorkYour Host: Forrest Kelly is an experienced Radio/TV broadcaster who has interviewed some of Hollywood's biggest celebrities, from Shania Twain to Kevin Costner. A lover of wine who is fascinated by the science behind it.Voted one of the best travel podcasts of 2021

We meet our guest, Vito Lerede, who is from a small town in the region of Puglia, Italy. He is the founder of Winecork.com. He wants to change the way you interact with wine. Let's hear how he's going to make that happen. Your Host: Forrest Kelly is an experienced Radio/TV broadcaster who has interviewed some of Hollywood's biggest celebrities, from Shania Twain (popular movie - Not Just a Girl on Netflix) to Kevin Costner (popular movie - Bull Durham on DIRECTV STREAM). A lover of wine who is fascinated by the science behind it.Voted one of the best travel podcasts of 2021Support The Best 5 Minute Wine Podcast: https://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast

We meet our guest, Vito Lerede, who is from a small town in the region of Puglia, Italy. He is the founder of Winecork.com. He wants to change the way you interact with wine. Let's hear how that's going to happen. Your Host: Forrest Kelly is an experienced Radio/TV broadcaster who has interviewed some of Hollywood's biggest celebrities, from Shania Twain to Kevin Costner. A lover of wine who is fascinated by the science behind it.Voted one of the best travel podcasts of 2021

We meet our guest, Vito Lerede, who is from a small town in the region of Puglia, Italy. He is the founder of Winecork.com. He wants to change the way you interact with wine. Let's hear how that's going to happen. Your Host: Forrest Kelly is an experienced Radio/TV broadcaster who has interviewed some of Hollywood's biggest celebrities, from Shania Twain to Kevin Costner. A lover of wine who is fascinated by the science behind it.Voted one of the best travel podcasts of 2021

Matt Berson explains how putting a great wine in a can comes about. If you would love to visit Portland Wine Company, join their newsletter for updates about events, etc. Your Host: Forrest Kelly is an experienced Radio/TV broadcaster who has interviewed some of Hollywood's biggest celebrities from Shania Twain to Kevin Costner. A lover of wine who is fascinated by the science behind it.Voted one of the best travel podcasts of 2021Support The Best 5 Minute Wine Podcast: https://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast

Matt Berson explains the love of producing great wine. Do they have vineyards on the property at https://www.portlandwinecompany.com/oregon-winery (3201 S. E. 50TH Ave, Portland, OR?) What kind of atmosphere can you experience at Love & Squalor Wine? Your Host: https://www.thebestwinepodcast.com/ (Forrest Kelly) is an experienced Radio/TV broadcaster who has interviewed some of Hollywood's biggest celebrities from https://www.shaniatwain.com/ (Shania Twain) to https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000126/ (Kevin Costner). A lover of wine who is fascinated by the science behind it. https://welpmagazine.com/20-best-travel-podcasts-of-2021/ (Voted one of the best travel podcasts of 2021) https://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast (Support The Best 5 Minute Wine Podcast: https://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast)

We are talking with https://www.portlandwinecompany.com/about (Matt Berson), Vintner and Winery Owner of Portland Wine Company home of Love & Squalor Wine. Transiting from the Restaurant business into a Winery owner has its challenges. What's it like to work at wineries around the world learning the ins and outs of making wine? Your Host: https://www.thebestwinepodcast.com/ (Forrest Kelly) is an experienced Radio/TV broadcaster who has interviewed some of Hollywood's biggest celebrities from https://www.shaniatwain.com/ (Shania Twain) to https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000126/ (Kevin Costner). A lover of wine who is fascinated by the science behind it. https://welpmagazine.com/20-best-travel-podcasts-of-2021/ (Voted one of the best travel podcasts of 2021) https://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast (Support The Best 5 Minute Wine Podcast: https://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast)

We venture to the 33rd state, Oregon, and speak with https://www.portlandwinecompany.com/about (Matt Berson), Vintner and Winery Owner of Portland Wine Company home of Love & Squalor Wine. What is Portland Wine Company and who is Matt? Your Host: https://www.thebestwinepodcast.com/ (Forrest Kelly) is an experienced Radio/TV broadcaster who has interviewed some of Hollywood's biggest celebrities from https://www.shaniatwain.com/ (Shania Twain) to https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000126/ (Kevin Costner). A lover of wine who is fascinated by the science behind it. https://welpmagazine.com/20-best-travel-podcasts-of-2021/ (Voted one of the best travel podcasts of 2021) https://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast (Support The Best 5 Minute Wine Podcast: https://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast)

We conclude our conversation with the https://www.duchmanwinery.com/ (GM of Duchman Family Winery) of Driftwood, Texas Tommy Wellford. Your Host: https://www.thebestwinepodcast.com/ (Forrest Kelly) is an experienced Radio/TV broadcaster who has interviewed some of Hollywood's biggest celebrities from https://www.shaniatwain.com/ (Shania Twain) to https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000126/ (Kevin Costner). A lover of wine who is fascinated by the science behind it. https://welpmagazine.com/20-best-travel-podcasts-of-2021/ (Voted one of the best travel podcasts of 2021) https://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast (Support The Best 5 Minute Wine Podcast: https://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast)

GM Tommy Wellford of Duchman Family Winery reveals the details about HGTV honoring them and other awards. Also we talk about the https://www.duchmanwinery.com/Events/Private-Picnic-Experience (Private Picnic Experience). Your Host: https://www.thebestwinepodcast.com/ (Forrest Kelly) is an experienced Radio/TV broadcaster who has interviewed some of Hollywood's biggest celebrities from https://www.shaniatwain.com/ (Shania Twain) to https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000126/ (Kevin Costner). A lover of wine who is fascinated by the science behind it. https://welpmagazine.com/20-best-travel-podcasts-of-2021/ (Voted one of the best travel podcasts of 2021) Gift https://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast (The Best 5 Minute Wine Podcast) some love.

Tommy Wellford, GM of Duchman Family Winery gives us the details about the wine club. He also reinforces the family values with the https://www.duchmanwinery.com/About-Us/People (winemaker, Dave Reilly). Your Host: https://www.thebestwinepodcast.com/ (Forrest Kelly) is an experienced Radio/TV broadcaster who has interviewed some of Hollywood's biggest celebrities from https://www.shaniatwain.com/ (Shania Twain) to https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000126/ (Kevin Costner). A lover of wine who is fascinated by the science behind it. https://welpmagazine.com/20-best-travel-podcasts-of-2021/ (Voted one of the best travel podcasts of 2021) https://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast (Support The Best 5 Minute Wine Podcast: https://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast)

https://www.duchmanwinery.com/About-Us/About-Us (Tommy Wellford GM of Duchman Family Winery in Driftwood, Texas is our guest). Tasting options and Winery tours are almost endless. https://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast (Thank you for your support The Best 5 Minute Wine Podcast) Your Host: https://www.thebestwinepodcast.com/ (Forrest Kelly) is an experienced Radio/TV broadcaster who has interviewed some of Hollywood's biggest celebrities from https://www.shaniatwain.com/ (Shania Twain) to https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000126/ (Kevin Costner). A lover of wine who is fascinated by the science behind it. https://welpmagazine.com/20-best-travel-podcasts-of-2021/ (Voted one of the best travel podcasts of 2021)

https://www.duchmanwinery.com/About-Us/About-Us (Tommy Wellford GM of Duchman Family Winery in Driftwood, Texas is our guest). Where did he start working and how that led to his current role is what we discuss in this episode. Your Host: https://www.thebestwinepodcast.com/ (Forrest Kelly) is an experienced Radio/TV broadcaster who has interviewed some of Hollywood's biggest celebrities from https://www.shaniatwain.com/ (Shania Twain) to https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000126/ (Kevin Costner). A lover of wine who is fascinated by the science behind it. https://welpmagazine.com/20-best-travel-podcasts-of-2021/ (Voted one of the best travel podcasts of 2021) https://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast (Thank you for your support The Best 5 Minute Wine Podcast: https://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast)

We close our conversation with https://coloradocellars.com/ (Richard Turley of Colorado Cellars). Did you know ?  They grow their own grapes and fruit, keep bees for honey wine, personally make and bottle their wines – even deliver it themselves. They are unique amongst Colorado wineries in that they are – and have always been – exclusively in the wine business… no second jobs, second incomes, or second careers.  Your Host: Forrest Kelly is an experienced Radio/TV broadcaster who has interviewed some of Hollywood's biggest celebrities from Shania Twain to Kevin Costner. A lover of wine who is fascinated by the science behind it. Welp Magazine voted it as one of the best travel podcasts of 2021! Our new music bed is from David Maine. https://www.davidmainescores.com/ (Who is David Maine?) David Maine is an NYC-based composer, multi-instrumentalist, singer, songwriter, and record producer. He is currently the in-house composer and sonic brander of http://gravelinstitute.org/ (The Gravel Institute). He operates out of his studio in Ridgewood NY. What can he provide you? Custom or Library compositions for all kinds of media and experiences, creative sound design, and sonic branding. https://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast (Support The Best 5 Minute Wine Podcast: https://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast) See https://omnystudio.com/listener (omnystudio.com/listener) for privacy information.

Richard Turley of Colorado Cellars continues as our guest. What is a typical day like at Colorado Cellars? Brett from Lake Havasu, Arizona also calls the show and asks a wine question. Your Host: Forrest Kelly is an experienced Radio/TV broadcaster who has interviewed some of Hollywood's biggest celebrities from Shania Twain to Kevin Costner. A lover of wine who is fascinated by the science behind it. Welp Magazine voted it as one of the best travel podcasts of 2021! https://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast (Support The Best 5 Minute Wine Podcast: https://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast) See https://omnystudio.com/listener (omnystudio.com/listener) for privacy information.

Our guest is the co-owner of Colorado Cellars, Richard Turley.  This winery gem is in Palisade, Colorado, known for its https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peach (peach) orchards and wine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vineyard (vineyards). The climate, a 182-day growing season, makes Palisade "The Peach Capital of Colorado". Your Host: Forrest Kelly is an experienced Radio/TV broadcaster who has interviewed some of Hollywood's biggest celebrities from Shania Twain to Kevin Costner. A lover of wine who is fascinated by the science behind it. Voted one of the best travel podcasts of 2021 https://www.thelowedownwithkevinlowe.com/ (We are happy to recommend The Lowe Down with Kevin Lowe) Podcast https://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast (Support The Best 5 Minute Wine Podcast: https://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast) See https://omnystudio.com/listener (omnystudio.com/listener) for privacy information.

Our guest is the co-owner of Colorado Cellars, Richard Turley.  This winery gem is in Palisade, Colorado, known for its https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peach (peach) orchards and wine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vineyard (vineyards). The climate, a 182-day growing season, makes Palisade "The Peach Capital of Colorado". Your Host: Forrest Kelly is an experienced Radio/TV broadcaster who has interviewed some of Hollywood's biggest celebrities from Shania Twain to Kevin Costner. A lover of wine who is fascinated by the science behind it. Voted one of the best travel podcasts of 2021 https://www.thelowedownwithkevinlowe.com/ (We are happy to recommend The Lowe Down with Kevin Lowe) https://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast (Support The Best 5 Minute Wine Podcast: https://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast) See https://omnystudio.com/listener (omnystudio.com/listener) for privacy information.

What goes into finding a wine or whiskey worthy of investment? Do you have to be an expert to invest with Vint?    Our guests: Nick, Co-founder, and CEO of Vint - Head of Wine - Billy Galanko & Head of Investor Relations, Brady Weller. https://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast (Support The Best 5 Minute Wine Podcast: https://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast) See https://omnystudio.com/listener (omnystudio.com/listener) for privacy information.

We continue talking with Nick, Co-founder, and CEO of Vint, and Billy, Head of Wine. We get into how Vint sources their investible wines.  Vint is the only SEC-qualified and FINRA-regulated platform for investing in fine wine and spirits. Much like investors buying shares of stock in companies, https://vint.co/ (Vint.co) is making it possible to buy shares of curated fine wine and spirits collections https://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast (Support The Best 5 Minute Wine Podcast: https://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast) See https://omnystudio.com/listener (omnystudio.com/listener) for privacy information.

Vint, the first fully transparent wine investment platform genuinely accessible to everyone. For less than $100, you can own SEC-qualified shares of the best wines in the world. Our guests are Nick, Co-founder, and CEO, and Billy Head of Wine at Vint. Vint.co Your Host: https://www.thebestwinepodcast.com/ (Forrest Kelly) is an experienced Radio/TV broadcaster who has interviewed some of Hollywood's biggest celebrities from https://www.shaniatwain.com/ (Shania Twain) to https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000126/ (Kevin Costner). A lover of wine who is fascinated by the science behind it. https://welpmagazine.com/20-best-travel-podcasts-of-2021/ (Voted one of the best travel podcasts of 2021) This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Chartable - https://chartable.com/privacy Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacy https://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast (Support The Best 5 Minute Wine Podcast: https://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast) See https://omnystudio.com/listener (omnystudio.com/listener) for privacy information.

We conclude our conversation with Michelle Bredeson. Did you know they have a cave at Carlos Creek Winery? We also talk about how big the Wine Club is and why membership is capped. Your Host: https://www.thebestwinepodcast.com/ (Forrest Kelly) is an experienced Radio/TV broadcaster who has interviewed some of Hollywood's biggest celebrities from https://www.shaniatwain.com/ (Shania Twain) to https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000126/ (Kevin Costner). A lover of wine who is fascinated by the science behind it. https://welpmagazine.com/20-best-travel-podcasts-of-2021/ (Voted one of the best travel podcasts of 2021) https://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast (Support The Best 5 Minute Wine Podcast: https://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast) See https://omnystudio.com/listener (omnystudio.com/listener) for privacy information.

Michelle Bredeson talks about live music and beer events. What is Carlos Creek Wineries' biggest selling wine? Let's find out. Your Host: https://www.thebestwinepodcast.com/ (Forrest Kelly) is an experienced Radio/TV broadcaster who has interviewed some of Hollywood's biggest celebrities from https://www.shaniatwain.com/ (Shania Twain) to https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000126/ (Kevin Costner). A lover of wine who is fascinated by the science behind it. https://welpmagazine.com/20-best-travel-podcasts-of-2021/ (Voted one of the best travel podcasts of 2021) This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Chartable - https://chartable.com/privacy Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacyhttps://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast (Support The Best 5 Minute Wine Podcast: https://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast) See https://omnystudio.com/listener (omnystudio.com/listener) for privacy information.

Michelle Bredeson introduces us to Minnesota's Winery of the Year for 2021. Can't forget about the The Grape Stomp event. Your Host: https://www.thebestwinepodcast.com/ (Forrest Kelly) is an experienced Radio/TV broadcaster who has interviewed some of Hollywood's biggest celebrities from https://www.shaniatwain.com/ (Shania Twain) to https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000126/ (Kevin Costner). A lover of wine who is fascinated by the science behind it. https://welpmagazine.com/20-best-travel-podcasts-of-2021/ (Voted one of the best travel podcasts of 2021) This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Chartable - https://chartable.com/privacy Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacyhttps://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast (Support The Best 5 Minute Wine Podcast: https://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast) See https://omnystudio.com/listener (omnystudio.com/listener) for privacy information.

Michelle Bredeson educates us on barrels and the expanse of Carlos Creek Winery. Your Host: https://www.thebestwinepodcast.com/ (Forrest Kelly) is an experienced Radio/TV broadcaster who has interviewed some of Hollywood's biggest celebrities from https://www.shaniatwain.com/ (Shania Twain) to https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000126/ (Kevin Costner). A lover of wine who is fascinated by the science behind it. https://welpmagazine.com/20-best-travel-podcasts-of-2021/ (Voted one of the best travel podcasts of 2021) This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Chartable - https://chartable.com/privacy Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacyhttps://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast (Support The Best 5 Minute Wine Podcast: https://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast) See https://omnystudio.com/listener (omnystudio.com/listener) for privacy information.

https://www.carloscreekwinery.com/meet-connect (Meet the owners of Carlos Creek Winery) - Hi! We are Tyler and Michelle Bredeson - two people with a love for wine, family & fun! We have been working at the winery since 2008 as part of a family business with Tami and Kim Bredeson (Tyler's parents)! In 2022, we purchased the winery with a vision of our own. We will continue to create products and experiences that bring people together for celebration & fun! Along side our family and the Bold North Cellars family we are always reaching for this goal in everything we do. Wine and beer should be welcoming, fun, and most importantly, really, really good! Our focus is on quality over profit in all things we do. Come out and experience the Bold North Cellars difference and we look forward to celebrating with you! https://www.carloscreekwinery.com/home (Visit Carlos Creek Winery in Alexandria Minnesota — Carlos Creek Winery) - Home Page Your Host: https://www.thebestwinepodcast.com/ (Forrest Kelly) is an experienced Radio/TV broadcaster who has interviewed some of Hollywood's biggest celebrities from https://www.shaniatwain.com/ (Shania Twain) to https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000126/ (Kevin Costner). A lover of wine who is fascinated by the science behind it. https://welpmagazine.com/20-best-travel-podcasts-of-2021/ (Voted one of the best travel podcasts of 2021) This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Chartable - https://chartable.com/privacy Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacyhttps://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast (Support The Best 5 Minute Wine Podcast: https://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast) See https://omnystudio.com/listener (omnystudio.com/listener) for privacy information.

Michelle Bredeson is our guest. She is the Marketing Director and Co-Owner of Carlos Creek Winery. Your Host: https://www.thebestwinepodcast.com/ (Forrest Kelly) is an experienced Radio/TV broadcaster who has interviewed some of Hollywood's biggest celebrities from https://www.shaniatwain.com/ (Shania Twain) to https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000126/ (Kevin Costner). A lover of wine who is fascinated by the science behind it. https://welpmagazine.com/20-best-travel-podcasts-of-2021/ (Voted one of the best travel podcasts of 2021) This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Chartable - https://chartable.com/privacy Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacyhttps://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast (Support The Best 5 Minute Wine Podcast: https://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast) See https://omnystudio.com/listener (omnystudio.com/listener) for privacy information.

We conclude our conversation with Phil Plummer of Montezuma Winery in Seneca Falls, NY. Your Host: https://www.thebestwinepodcast.com/ (Forrest Kelly) is an experienced Radio/TV broadcaster who has interviewed some of Hollywood's biggest celebrities from https://www.shaniatwain.com/ (Shania Twain) to https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000126/ (Kevin Costner). A lover of wine who is fascinated by the science behind it. https://welpmagazine.com/20-best-travel-podcasts-of-2021/ (Voted one of the best travel podcasts of 2021) This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Chartable - https://chartable.com/privacy Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacyhttps://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast (Support The Best 5 Minute Wine Podcast: https://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast) See https://omnystudio.com/listener (omnystudio.com/listener) for privacy information.

Phil Plummer, Head Winemaker at Montezuma Winery. Your Host: https://www.thebestwinepodcast.com/ (Forrest Kelly) is an experienced Radio/TV broadcaster who has interviewed some of Hollywood's biggest celebrities from https://www.shaniatwain.com/ (Shania Twain) to https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000126/ (Kevin Costner). A lover of wine who is fascinated by the science behind it. https://welpmagazine.com/20-best-travel-podcasts-of-2021/ (Voted one of the best travel podcasts of 2021) This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Chartable - https://chartable.com/privacy Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacyhttps://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast (Support The Best 5 Minute Wine Podcast: https://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast) See https://omnystudio.com/listener (omnystudio.com/listener) for privacy information.

Welcome, welcome to The Best Five Minute Wine Podcast, I'm your host, Forrest Kelly, from the seed to the glass wine has a past. Our aim at The Best Five Minute Wine Podcast is to look for adventure at wineries around the globe. After all, grape minds think alike. Let's start the adventure. Our featured winery is we continue our conversation with Phil Plummer of Montezuma Winery in Seneca Falls, New York. The last time we talked Phil, you were talking about texture. Could you explain that to me? So I think for me, I'll contextualize it around what we do here a lot. We're in a cooler climate region, so we're not going to have the big like hit you over the head tannins that you would get in a warm climate. But I think we also have this really super bright acid that we get in our wines here. And sometimes the texture is how you balance that. So I'm really interested in things where I can add weight without adding sweetness. Probably the clearest way that I've ever heard it analogized it is. It's like milk, right? So you have your lighter-bodied wines or like skim milk where they're not really mouth coating, they're just kind of here and gone. Whereas you're fuller-bodied wines are getting out to that whole milk territory where there's a little bit more something to chew on. There's room for both skim milk and whole milk, and it's just about figuring out what's right for the product you're making at the time. As the head winemaker, I'm sure you have a vast list of responsibilities that you have to do, but out of those, what do you consider to be the most valuable? You probably don't want really full-bodied cabernet in the middle of summer, but a really light-bodied zippy riesling is going to be perfect. I think every wine has its own parameters, and that's really the job of the winemaker is to figure out where the wine wants to be. For me was a pivotal point in my career when I stopped trying to make the wines that I wanted to make and started listening to the wines and trying to make them the way they wanted to be. And I can imagine that having that epiphany has opened up some other opportunities for you. What do you think? Are you most proud of the winery that you've done? I've done a lot of really cool Nats, and now we have a traditional method program that we've been adding to as we go. So those have been really rewarding for me to see that this is something that I've taken as my own little personal bailiwick. And just to see that other people are into it too is always cool. In doing research for getting ready to talk to you. I was kind of surprised that I found that New York is third in the states with the highest wine production and surprising that the Finger Lakes region in New York has well over one hundred wineries in just that one area. So it's a great story. I mean, we were like the original American wine region. If you're familiar with the bonding system on wineries. So every winery in the U.S. that's legal. You have to file a bond with the federal government and you get a bond. No, that's associated with your permit. So like here, our bond number is 896, which means we're the 896th winery in the U.S. Bonded Winery #1 is here in the Finger Lakes and it's at the south end of Kuka Lake and Hammonds Port, and that was the original home of Great Western and Gold Seal. They called it Champagne back then. You can't call it champagne anymore, and that's really where things started. And it was this big production facility and you had this whole industry that grew up with growers that their whole game was that they were growing for Taylor, Great Western Gold seal that facility. Then, in the middle of the 20th century, the Taylor family sold that property to Coca-Cola, and Coca-Cola came in and broke all those contracts. You suddenly have a production facility that's trucking in and by railcars, bringing in cheaper juice and bulk wine from the West Coast and this whole industry of grape growing families that have nowhere to...

Our featured winery is: In this episode, we head to the town that hosted the first women's rights convention in 1848. It's also believed to be the inspiration for Bedford Falls, Mary, my wife Clarence, Merry Christmas everybody. Yes, the movie, It's A Wonderful Life, it's https://senecafalls.com/ (Seneca Falls, New York), home to Montezuma Winery. Hi, this is Phil Plummer. I'm the head winemaker for the https://www.montezumawinery.com/ (Martin Family, Wineries Montezuma Winery). Under The Martin family, wineries and distilleries. You have Montezuma Winery, https://www.montezumawinery.com/montezuma-old-forge/ (Old Forge), https://idolridge.com/ (IDOL Ridge Winery), http://idolridge.com/alder-creek-distillery/ (Alder Creek Distillery), and https://hiddenmarshdistillery.com/ (Hidden Marsh Distillery). We're going to focus on Montezuma Winery since you are the head winemaker, Phil. Let's get a little background on yourself. I'm originally from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, but I came to Rochester, New York, to go to college. I went to RIT and I was there for this really like specialized science computer science program, and I got a couple of years deep into that and came to the realization that I was headed for a life where I was going to be buried at a lab bench or behind a computer screen, and that terrified me through the hospitality school at RIT, I'd been taking wine tasting classes, so I decided to start making wine and beer in my college apartment, which was probably not within the letter of the law at the time, but I really fell in love with production. I like making things, and I always felt like maybe wine would be what I did if I won the Powerball someday. Your Host: https://www.thebestwinepodcast.com/ (Forrest Kelly) is an experienced Radio/TV broadcaster who has interviewed some of Hollywood's biggest celebrities from https://www.shaniatwain.com/ (Shania Twain) to https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000126/ (Kevin Costner). A lover of wine who is fascinated by the science behind it. https://welpmagazine.com/20-best-travel-podcasts-of-2021/ (Voted one of the best travel podcasts of 2021) This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Chartable - https://chartable.com/privacy Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacyhttps://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast (Support The Best 5 Minute Wine Podcast: https://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast) See https://omnystudio.com/listener (omnystudio.com/listener) for privacy information.

Welcome, welcome to The Best Five Minute Wine Podcast, I'm your host, Forrest Kelly, from the seed to the glass wine has a past. Our aim at The Best Five Minute Wine Podcast is to look for adventure at wineries around the globe. After all, grape minds think alike, let's start the adventure. Our featured winery is we continue our conversation with Doug McCombs of IG Winery now on our last episode, you touched on some festivals. Let's dive deeper into all of the festivals that you're offering this year. We are what we call popcorn and wine pairings, so we have a wine professional out of Salt Lake who comes down and does a really fun pairing of different flavored popcorns with different wines from around the state. They're all again. All the wines featured at the event are Utah-produced wines. Then we do a farm to fork dinner, which we go out to a local farm and they put a big long table out for about a hundred people served family-style, all kinds of fresh food right off the farm, and we pair it up with a lot of different Utah wines. We do something called Epicurean on the edge, which is only about 30 people. But you drive out to a remote mountain's edge, sort of looking into Zion National Park and they put out a huge spread there. And there's the local chef that does all this remote cooking, and he puts an amazing meal out for everybody and again, all paired with Utah wines. We have what we call the grand dinner on Center Street, and we put a table the length of the street. And again, we have some local chefs who put together some fabulous food. We do a picnic in the vineyard, there's a vineyard in St. George. We host about 50 people. They can walk out in the vineyard. We have some stations out there where we're pouring wine that was actually grown right there in the row. They're standing in and produced from the grapes they're looking at. And so it's kind of fun to say, you know, you're standing here in the Tempranillo, and if you look to your left or right, you'll see the grapes and this is what we produced back in 2018 or something like that, you know, that's a lot of fun. Now these events, what are the costs? Because I imagine they sell out pretty quickly. Speaker2: They do. They usually sell out in about a month. We start sales in July on July 1st and usually by the end of the year. Toward the end of July, it's pretty much sold out. Tickets run anywhere from forty-five dollars to 120.00, depending on the event. Not only do you host these large events, but you host events like what I've got around my house with my wife and I have gone to many of them and there are paintings all over our walls at home, paint night. Yeah, we do a lot of paint nights during the winter when things are a little quieter. It's a good way to get people to come out and have some fun and enjoy some wine. Looking back at all that you've created, what do you think was your biggest attribute of perseverance? Yeah, this is our ten-year anniversary this year for IG Winery. The first two or three years were very tough. We just pushed through it and kept reinvesting in the business. We were not just building a business, we were building an industry where it never existed in the past. And so it just keeps pushing, keep pushing, be creative and how we market, just be as open and inviting as we possibly can with others who are looking to get into the business and encouraging and mentoring. And I try to do everything I can to put my arm around those who are going to ultimately become our competitors in an effort to really try to build our industry. And I think that's what works for us. Was there a point when that perseverance you could feel paid off and thought, OK, we've got something here? It was about the five-year mark when we moved out of the little space behind the B and B and moved into our current facility. We went up to almost 6000 square feet, and so all of a sudden we had lots of room to work and we had a beautiful tasting room and we had the...

Welcome, welcome to The Best Five Minute Wine Podcast, I'm your host, Forrest Kelly, from the seed to the glass wine has a past. Our aim at The Best Five Minute Wine Podcast is to look for adventure at wineries around the globe. After all, grape minds think alike. Let's start the adventure. Our featured winery is in our last conversation, Doug. We ran out of time, so you couldn't explain Cocktail Lounge. What's that about it at IG Winery? The history on that was that we have a lot of locals who come in and do tastings, and they began coming in and saying, Look, you know, I've done plenty of tastings. Can I just have a glass of wine and sit and enjoy the tasting room and hang out with my friends? And of course, under Utah law, we can't just pour a glass of wine as a winery. However, if we acquired a bar license, we could pour you a glass of our wine and let you sit and enjoy it. So we did that. We went out and got the bar license. And but under Utah law, if you have a bar license, you have to also pour some cocktails under that license agreement. So we made up a few cocktails. And so from five p.m. to 10 p.m., you can come in if you don't want to do a tasting, you can come in and have a nice handcrafted cocktail or a glass of wine and enjoy the winery that way. Yes, looking at your menu, I see your handcrafted cocktails, your Maple Manhattan, The Arrogant Bastard, The Starter Wife, Caitie's Hard Iced Tea, Sweet Apple Spice, the IG-Tini, the wine tasting experience. Can you explain that? Well, we will do a tasting. We typically do five different wines as part of your tasting. If you're the type that likes to sit and have an explanation, we like to walk everyone through an explanation of each wine where it's from, how we made it, what the unique taste you know, components are of that particular wine and just, you know, take our time. So a tasting could take about an hour. On the other hand, if you're the kind of person that really just wants to have your wine and be left alone, it can go a lot quicker than that. So you moved into your new facility and you've got the cocktail lounge. And who's designing that you? I did. Yes, you did. All right. Yeah, yeah, it's been good. We used a lot of the old building materials that were there before we remodeled the building, so we gave it kind of a rustic-chic feel. It's a very inviting place and people enjoy the vibe a lot. I can tell just from our short conversation that you're very ambitious. You've started this winery with no previous winery experience and now you've moved into a brand new, beautiful facility. You've designed this cocktail lounge. I've got a feeling that you've got your fingers in something else as well. And then we just recently created the Utah Wine Trail, which will open in the spring of this year. And that'll be you've seen. I know these trails around, you know, different states where you, you follow the map and go to each one and get your card punched or something like that. And when you visited all the wineries, you get a little gift, and it's obviously designed to encourage everybody to get out, hit all the different wineries. And so we're starting that this year as well. So we're excited to see the growth and what the future has. Quite a little wine legacy here in Utah. Well, we're trying. That was our goal when we started out and think, thank heaven. We've seen some success with that, you know, to that point when we started. As I told you, we were the only ones in town as of today. Now there are six wineries in southern Utah that have grown up since we started this 10 years ago. So we've been kind of the trailblazer, if you will, for everybody else who's come along afterward, and that's by design. We wanted to see this area become a tourist. You know, wine begin to be able to promote wine tourism. So there have been several additional vineyards planted now. And like I said, six wineries are now open in the southern Utah area. We being IG Winery, in this case,

Welcome, welcome to The Best 5 Minute Wine Podcast, I'm your host, Forrest Kelly. From the seed to the glass, wine has a past. Our aim at The Best 5 Minute Wine Podcast is to look for adventure at wineries around the globe. After all, grape minds think alike. Let's start the adventure. Our featured winery is: We continue our interview with Doug McCombs, founder, and winemaker of IG Winery. Since you didn't come from a winemaking background, getting started had to be difficult. Yeah, when we started in Cedar City, there was like I said, there were no wineries in southern Utah at all. So we came in and actually had to work with the city to help them develop zoning ordinances that would allow for a winery. We actually wrote those for the city and submitted them and the city passed them and got them through and created the zoning and the ordinances that we needed to allow for us. Then we opened our doors. We were just in a little, The whole thing was twelve hundred square feet. That was the tasting room, the storage area, the winery, the production area, everything. And it was just a small little building with a couple of tanks and a few barrels, and we started buying both bulk wine and grapes to make our wines and just begins the long, slow process of building a clientele in a market that there was no wine culture if you will, but there was really no, no real understanding of what wineries were all about. And so we had to educate the community and just begin that process. Since you were kind of trailblazing the wine industry in Utah, were you met with some resistance as people have their own preconceived ideas about wine? But then there are some who will say, well, it's just another versi This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Chartable - https://chartable.com/privacy Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacyhttps://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast (Support The Best 5 Minute Wine Podcast: https://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast) See https://omnystudio.com/listener (omnystudio.com/listener) for privacy information.

Our featured winery is in the state with the first 00:28 http://www.kfc.com/ (Kentucky Fried Chicken). It's the only state where every county contains some part of a national forest. It's the 2nd driest state in the United States. Almost 300 sunshine days a year, and its residents are the most charitable people in the country. They rank 1st in volunteer rates. 00:48 https://igwinery.com/about/ (Doug McCombs). Owner and Winemaker of IG Winery in Cedar City, Utah. Your Host: Forrest Kelly is an experienced Radio/TV broadcaster who has interviewed some of Hollywood's biggest celebrities from Shania Twain to Kevin Costner. A lover of wine who is fascinated by the science behind it. https://www.thebestwinepodcast.com/ (Visit our website) https://welpmagazine.com/20-best-travel-podcasts-of-2021/ (Voted one of the best travel podcasts of 2021) This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Chartable - https://chartable.com/privacy Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacyhttps://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast (Support The Best 5 Minute Wine Podcast: https://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast) See https://omnystudio.com/listener (omnystudio.com/listener) for privacy information.

Hi, this is Forrest Kelly, and I'd like to take just a moment and look back on 2021, the year in review. First off, I'd like to thank my beautiful wife, Paula for her support of the podcast. And I couldn't have done it without you! Looking at the numbers and the analytics for the 2021 year. The biggest majority of listeners, of course, came from the United States. Second place belonged to, do you have a guess what country? India was second place and that was followed by the United Kingdom, Italy, and Germany. The platform Spotify, as you know, has got a neat look back in 2021 with an email and program they call wrapped - downloads and followers on Spotify jumped by 200% this last year. Also, 10 of you listened to the podcast more than any other podcast. Thank you for that, and 30 percent of you listen from 11 to five. That's normal. And the most listened-to episode on any platform of 2021 was Michael Juergens. He was the gentleman that we interviewed that is bringing wine to the Kingdom of Bhutan. Second, the most listened-to episode was our series with Lakeridge Winery and Vineyards in Florida, and we started a YouTube channel on The Best Five Minute Wine Podcast. So far. We've got over 350 subscribers. Would like to thank you for listening and participating with your listener voicemails. And as always, if you like the show, please follow and subscribe. Make sure you tell your friends and pets. Let's have a great 2022. This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Chartable - https://chartable.com/privacy Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacyhttps://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast (Support The Best 5 Minute Wine Podcast: https://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast) See https://omnystudio.com/listener (omnystudio.com/listener) for privacy information.

Breaking news.......Think about this, if you had the first bottle of wine ever commercially produced in America. Like, what would that bottle be worth? That bottle would be in the https://www.si.edu/ (Smithsonian)? Here it is the very first bottle ever produced in America or in France or in Australia or wherever. That's the first bottle that would be important. We missed the mark by hundreds of years in most countries, but I'm doing that. I'm going to make the first bottle, so I want to. The very first thing that we're going to do is make one barrel, which will be the first barrel, and then we're going to bottle those wines in a special bottle and kind of sell those to collectors who want to have a piece of the first barrel ever produced in a country of wine, which I think is kind of cool. First of all, I want to thank you for that breaking news. I think that's a great idea to plan that out, and it just might be https://www.therichest.com/luxury/most-expensive-bottles-wine/#:~:text=10%20Most%20Expensive%20Bottles%20Of%20Wine.%201%2010,6%20Shipwrecked%201907%20Heidsieck%20%E2%80%93%20%24275%2C000.%20More%20items (lucrative for you) as well, because looking at some of the most expensive wines sold. You've got charity cases, sometimes half a million dollars French wine, a bottle, a single bottle, three hundred thousand plus. Do you have any idea who might be interested in buying the first case or the first wine from the country of Bhutan? I would guess it would be places like, you know, the https://nationalwinecentre.com.au/discover-experience/wine-tasting (Wine Museum and Adelaide Australia). You know, people who the collectors like the Koch brothers, I don't know if they would be interested or not, but you know, the Koch brothers have historically bought interesting bottles of wine like, you know, https://www.cbsnews.com/news/billionaire-spends-35m-to-investigate-400k-wine-fraud/ (the famous fake Thomas Jefferson bottles) and so on and so forth. So I think it would be one of those wines that you would not open, right? You would say. But obviously, the very first bottle we would probably give to the first few bottles in the series would probably go to the country itself for them to save and posterity sake and their museums. I wanted to ask you about the highest elevation, where some countries and vineyards profess that they have the highest. Reminds me of a question from Alice of Muskogee, Oklahoma, who's a listener to the podcast, and she asked, I'm interested in knowing how different grapes and different grow based on different climates and different altitudes, and how that affects the different quality of wine produced. That's a good question. So what is your take on focusing on the elevation, not focusing on the elevation? So there's a huge debate about that. The Argentineans would say they've got the tallest. There's one in Tibet. It's about 11,000 feet. They would say that they've got the tallest. There's a lot of arguments about it. I could definitely have the tallest vineyard, the highest altitude vineyard in the world if I want it very easily. To me, I think that's sort of like a gimmick. And my goal is to not do gimmicky stuff. My goal is to try to capture the beauty of Bhutan in a wine bottle and share it with the world. And if that happens to align with the perfect plot at 13,000 feet, I would plant it in a heartbeat. But I don't. I don't think that it will. We've got the tallest. Yeah, like, we'll leave that to the people who want to do that sort of gimmicky marketing stuff. But hey, you know, we're still dialing things in and figuring out what works well where. So we may find that there's an awesome ice wine vineyard that we can plant Vidal at 13,000 feet and makes this glorious https://www.liquor.com/ice-wines-5078060 (ice wine). And if so, then yeah, I'll do it, but not because it's high. Thank you for listening. I'm Forrest Kelly. This episode of https://www.thebestwinepodcast.com/ (The Best Five Minute Wine...

Welcome to The Best Five Minute Wine Podcast, I'm your host, Forrest Kelly, from the seed to the glass wine has a past. Our aim at The Best Five Minute Wine Podcast is to look for adventure at wineries around the globe. After all, grape minds think alike. Let's start the adventure. We're speaking with a man responsible for bringing vineyards to the country of Bhutan, the Kingdom of Bhutan. How big a country is it? It's actually not that big a country. It's about the size of https://www.myswitzerland.com/en (Switzerland). So it's probably, I don't know, 300 miles North to South and 500 miles East to est. Anywhere that you are you can sort of look in every direction and see mountains. But like Everest is behind those. And so you can't necessarily see Everest from most places. There's just one cool pass of https://northbengaltourism.com/dochula-pass/ (Dochula Pass). It's about 14,0000 thousand feet. It's between the capital city of https://www.bhutan.travel/destinations/thimphu (Thimphu), where we have a couple of vineyards, and the Valley, where we have a couple of vineyards. And so I drive over that pass quite a bit. And when you're at the top, there's this outlook that you can see like 17 different Himalayan peaks that are all in the low twenties and it's really freaking cool. And when you're flying into https://paroairport.com/ (Paro), you can see average when you fly in, which is kind of neat too. So tell me about some of the advantages of the country. I mean, the obvious one is just the water that is coming off of the glaciers and the snow runoff of the Himalayas. I imagine there are others as well. So the soil is super, super vibrant. And so, you know, if you sort of believe in some of this, you know, biodynamic philosophy where you sort of getting this balance with the local ecosystems and the biomes and the soil and the local wildlife, that's certainly part of it. They're on track to be the first 100 percent organic country, so they're really sort of against interventionist agriculture. It's more about trying to find how things will work in those climates. The water is entirely https://www.ringana.com/blog/microplastic-free/?lang=en (microplastic-free) because it's just pure runoff from the Himalayan glaciers. So you have this really good water and the climate. There's a lot of different microclimates there that sort of stretch from jungle at the bottom of the country, at the south side, all the way up to glacier. So you have all these different climate zones within the country that they are they figured out over the years like, Oh hey, you know, Mandarin oranges grow really, really well down here, where red rice grows really, really well at 7,500 feet. And my hope is that that's what we're going to find with our grapes is that Merlot grows really, really well at 3000 feet and Riesling grows really, really well at 7,500 feet. So my guess is that that's where it will evolve over time, as it's done with some of their other crops. But that's, you know, that's a 50-year plan, not a 5-year plan, unfortunately. With a business plan like that, you've done your homework and it sounds very encouraging down the line. Can you tell me a little bit about the potential markets? One of the leading roses in India right now is Mateus. I don't know if you're familiar with https://www.mateusrose.us/our-story/ (Mateus, it's a Portuguese rosé), which sells for about $5.00 bucks a bottle here in the U.S., and in India, it sells for $29.00 a bottle. There's a pretty significant margin opportunity if you can capture that market share without paying, those import taxes and tariffs. So there's it's one thing to go after a unique area like Bhutan and say, Hey, I want to grow a Bhutanese cabernet here, and I want to try to capture the essence of Bhutan, and we're going to export this to London, and we're going to sell for $250.00 bucks a bottle. That is very, very cool and interesting to kind of the wine geeks of the world. But there's...

Welcome to The Best Five Minute Wine Podcast, I'm your host, Forrest Kelly. From the seed to the glass, wine has a past. Our aim at The Best Five Minute Wine Podcast is to look for adventure at wineries around the globe. After all, grape minds think alike, let's start the adventure. Our featured winery is we continue our conversation with Michael Juergens and his wine adventure in the Himalayan hills of Bhutan. When all is said and done, what kind of wine are you looking to produce? We want to make wines that are going to be poured at the world's finest restaurant and cost $150 bucks and up. So $150 and above. I was reading where you said that you're not going to make plonk? I had to look up the term https://www.mvorganizing.org/why-is-wine-called-plonk/ (plonk). Would you consider that a derogatory term? No. I don't think plonk is necessarily derogatory. It's more that it's know kind of inexpensive wine. I think it's pretty much a British and Australian term. But you know, if you were going to drink, you know, have a nice glass of plonk, you know, I just want an easy drink in, you know, $4 glass of red as opposed to something that's super complex. It requires a lot of attention. So in your quest to become a https://www.mastersofwine.org/ (Master of Wine), there are only four hundred and nineteen worldwide in 30 different countries. Has anybody else done what you've done and gone to a country and started a wine industry from scratch? No, not to my knowledge. No matter of fact, I don't think that there are very many countries left on the planet where you could conceivably start a wine industry from scratch. Most places already have been around having for hundreds or thousands of years. One of the things that really appealed to me about this project, you know, the Himalayas is not convenient to Los Angeles, which is where I live, but the opportunity to really be given this palate, this beautiful landscape, this wonderful terroir with nothing and say here, decide what this should look like. You know, should we do ice wine? Should we do big reds? Should we do sparkling? Should we do hybrids? You know, what do you think is going to be the perfect wines for Bhutan that will express a sense of place, and that's a really cool opportunity to get to do. I don't. Not too many people have gotten to do that. Oh, absolutely. What a great opportunity. So in the time frame, when you first went over there to run the marathon and you talked with them and you started this serious discussion, what are we looking at down the road from basically seed to vine? It took about two years from the very first serious discussions that we had. I had kind of broached the topic a couple of years before that, and it took a couple of years for the country to get to the point where they're like, Yeah, this seems legit. Let's get serious about trying to do this. And then once they had made that decision, it took about two years before we got the first six vineyards planted. And to your point, no, I absolutely was out there in the fields with not necessarily carabiners, but like digging holes and, you know, carrying plants up and down the hills. And, yeah, very excited. As you mentioned earlier, as you might expect, the Himalayas, very mountainous. I imagine there's a lot of prework that you had to do, you know, building terraces on the sides of mountains and things and prepping everything. But where are you in the stage as far as the vine progress? Six of our vineyards are in the fourth leaf and two of our vineyards are in the second leaf. So we actually had grapes last year, but the pandemic was going on and the borders were closed. We had grapes again this year, but there's still a lot of pandemic issues, particularly with India. You know, India has had quite the outbreak the last few months. And so Bhutan, because it shares a border with India, has been really strategic about what they let in and out of the country right now. So we'll have our first...

Welcome, to The Best Five Minute Wine Podcast, I'm your host, Forrest Kelly. From the seed to the glass, wine has a past. Our aim at The Best Five Minute Wine Podcast is to look for adventure at wineries around the globe. After all, grape minds think alike. Let's start the adventure. Our featured winery is. Hello. This is your captain speaking. Welcome to Juergen's airlines, we hope you enjoy your flight to thehttps://www.britannica.com/place/Bhutan ( Kingdom of Bhutan) in the Himalayas, Bhutan is sandwiched between two countries India and China on our flight this evening is Michael Juergens, Michael has helped plant vineyards at nine thousand feet to start the first winery in the Kingdom of Bhutan. So sit back, relax and enjoy your flight. Remember, if we have a bumpy landing, it's not the captain's fault. It's not the co-pilot's fault. It's the asphalt. Hi, this is Mike Juergens. I'm the author ofhttps://www.drinkingandknowingthings.com/ ( Drinking and Knowing Things) and a number of other Wine Books. I also founded the wine industry in the Kingdom of Bhutan in the Himalayas, and I'm a Master of Wine candidate. Ok, Michael, we'll get into each of those credentials, but first just doing a little bit of research on the Kingdom of Bhutan. They have 5,400 species of plants, compared to 17,000 here in the United States. They were one of the first countries to ban tobacco use. Archery is the number one sport. Health care is free. Where was the inspiration? What did the inspiration come from to start producing wine in Bhutan? Well, I had traveled all around the world visiting all the other global wine regions as part of trying to pursue my https://www.mastersofwine.org/ (Master of Wine qualification). And when I went to Bhutan to run a marathon, it just looked like the kind of place that should have vineyards. You just had these magnificent terraced slopes with these beautiful crops. Everything I ate was the best. Whatever I've eaten, the best cucumber, the best carrot, like everything was just spectacularly good. And so that to me led me to believe that they had a vineyard somewhere. So I asked everybody, where are the vineyards? And turned out they didn't have any. And so I kind of said, you guys need to do this like starting now. And they listened. They listened to you. So you must have been very persuasive and shown them the potential of what could be right. Because Bhutan is, you know, looking at a map is and imagining the Himalayas. This isn't going to be the main thoroughfare for trade. Bhutan is pretty isolated in the Himalayas and so it remained pretty much on its own until, like the 1970s. You know, they just didn't have any Western influence. You know, the https://www.worldhistory.org/Silk_Road/ (Silk Road) never went through there, and so Vitis vinifera never got planted there. You know, the Roman Army never reached that far on the https://www.worldhistory.org/Silk_Road/ (Silk Road) didn't go through it. So I don't think it was a function of there wasn't, you know, a desire to to have it or to avoid it. I think it just never got there. And even today, you know, the country monitors who can go into the country. They don't want to overburden it with tourism. There just hasn't been a lot of Western influence in there, and it just took some stupid guy like me asking dumb questions like where the vineyards? And they sort of said, Huh, we hadn't thought about that, you know? So it wasn't that that this had never been broached before. It just was. I think I happen to be the right place at the right time where the country was a little bit more open to trying to make this work. How about the residents and the culture? Do they drink wine? There's a really big wine culture there, but it's all around rice wine. And so each family makes their special recipe, you know, secretly guarded family recipe for their rice wine, which they make in their kitchens, and it's considered to be very traditional. You show up in a...

We close out our conversation with Barry Hus of Lakeridge Winery and Vineyards, Florida's largest winery. I can imagine that staffing can be a bit of a challenge. I went to New York and recruited a vineyard manager that was highly experienced, and he's done wonders for our vineyards. I went to Sarasota. I recruited this top mechanic that had been in the industry for 45 years can fix any kind of bottling line equipment or anything that you have. And he's been the same thing. He's just he's helped us fix so much and saved us so much money with his expertise. So it's that kind of thing, that kind of recruitment that lends itself to providing a successful business, no matter what you're doing, you know, people make the difference. Having a winery the size of Lakeridge Winery & Vineyards, you've got a vast selection of wines. What are some that stand out that are your biggest sellers? Our most popular wines are our southern red and southern white. We also cross-label those as vintners, red, and vintners white at our other location. They're the exact same wines. That's 60 percent of our business. Those two are the main Muscadine wines that we produce one white, one red. After that, we make a bold blush. It's called Sunblush, and it's also Muscadine. And then we make a Chablis. We make a Chablis out of our white grapes. That's the driest of the Muscadine wines. They're both good sellers, the Chablis is great for cooking the sunblush. We call it the Goldilocks wine. It's a little red. It's a little wide, it's a little sweet, it's a little dry. You know, it's you don't know what to take to a party that's a great wine to take with you. And then becoming more and more popular are the specialty wines, and we're just getting to where we're having to ramp up our production of our sparkling. We do our own https://store.lakeridgewinery.com/pink-crescendo.html (sparkling wine). We do two of them a white and pink. And we do. We still do them in the old champagne method. So we're doing the double fermentation on those. We make a port that's 100 percent Musk, nine, with a wonderful port. So those specialty wines are great. We also produce a Sherry. The https://store.lakeridgewinery.com/cream-sherry.html (Sherry is about 25 percent Muscadine). It doesn't lend itself to a great sherry. The white grape doesn't. So we're bringing that in and then blending it in with about 25 percent of the Muscadine. And then it produces a great, great Sherry after that. And then we have some kind of blends we do at what we call a https://store.lakeridgewinery.com/proprietor-39-s-reserve.html (proprietor's reserve). It's kind of a dessert-style wine. Again, it's a sweet wine. It's got a higher alcohol level than our standard table wine does. But it's not quite a port. It's gone over very well. Again, it's one of those sweet wines served chilled. Those are the main ones. Those are what we produce. Our main focus is on our Muscadine wines and our southern reds, southern wine by far our top sellers. It's been a pleasure talking with you and learning so much about Florida wine. If our podcast listeners are in the area or planning a Florida trip, what's the best place to go to get all the information we need? The best place to go to start is at our website, which is https://www.lakeridgewinery.com/ (Lakeridgewinery.com) And from there, you can get our hours and information about the weekends at the winery. Who's what bands are playing, what foods are being served, all that kind of stuff. If you want to call in, you can certainly do that. We have an 800 number. It's 800.768.9463. Be happy to answer any of the questions that you might have. Thank you for listening. I'm Forrest Kelly. This episode of The Best Five Minute Wine Podcast was produced by IHYSM. If you like the show, please tell your friends and pets and subscribe. Until next time pour the wine and ponder your next adventure. This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis:...

COO Barry Hus, explains the adventure of a tour at Lakeridge Winery & Vineyards. So in our typical guided tour, when I say that they stay within the building, our main building is fairly large. It has a second floor, they go up into the theater. It's a church pew style. They sit and watch the film. It's about 10 minutes. It goes through the history of wine and winemaking in Florida and how we got involved in it. Then there are walkways that go across our production area and from the walkways. They can see our bottling line and our tanks and the processes and the pumps and everything and the workers down below. The guide would explain to them what's going on. We have cold stabilization going on or we've got bottling, going on, or whatever might be happening at the time. They then walk outside. We have an outdoor balcony on the back of the building that overlooks our crushed deck and the vineyard so they can see the vineyards from there. They can see the crushed deck and the equipment, the presses, pumps, and all that kind of stuff. And depending on the time of year, like right now, we just finished pressing the last of our grapes yesterday. So from August and early September, they can see the https://www.winemag.com/2020/03/17/stomping-grapes-winemaking-crush/ (grapes being crushed). The rest of the time, they will see the vineyards in full bloom or dormant, you know, depending on the time of the year, and the guide will talk to them about that. They don't go out into the vineyard. And then from there, they come across another walkway mezzanine. Generally, Monday through Thursday, we're bottling. They can see the bottling line in action and then from there they go into the main part of the retail shop where our tasting counter is. Customers can get up close to the vines out in our festival area. They can walk right up to the vineyard and see the vines and the grapes and things like that. Pre-covid, in 2019, I see where https://www.visitflorida.org/ (Florida had over 130,000,000 million visitors, tourists). So out of those people, when they visit the winery, are you seeing some kind of commonality between the novice and the expert in your visitorship? Yeah, there's a commonality and they do run that full gamut, you know, from people who are very curious and have never seen it to people who have seen hundreds of them, you know, have been all over the world and seen them. I think the commonality is the surprise that something like this exists in Florida. Nobody thinks Florida is having any kind of wine industry at all, let alone something that's of this size. And then the flavor of the wine is so uniquely different from anything else that they're going to taste, and even people who generally are dry drinkers are surprised at it. It's a sweet wine, but it's more of a fruit-forward, kind of a sweetness and not like a sugary sweetness to it. We serve it chilled. It's very refreshing. It's something that goes well with the https://www.climatestotravel.com/climate/united-states/florida (Florida climate). This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Chartable - https://chartable.com/privacy Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacyhttps://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast (Support The Best 5 Minute Wine Podcast: https://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast) See https://omnystudio.com/listener (omnystudio.com/listener) for privacy information.

COO Barry Hus of Lakeridge Winery & Vineyards explains the impressive details of Florida's largest winery. Whether it's food, cars, or houses, we're always looking for that wow factor. I still remember seeing my wife the first time in her wedding dress. So when people come up to your winery, can you tell me your wow factor? It's a big property. I think people are very surprised, first of all, that it's hilly. And when they pull into the property, it's kind of a https://www.thespruce.com/what-is-tuscan-architecture-5072335 (Tuscan design), building, and layout of the property, and the vineyards surround the property on all sides. So when you drive up, you see a large open grass area and fencing that leads up to the large building that is the winery. People from all over the world come to visit us here because Central Florida is a very tourist-driven area. We hear a lot that it reminds them of Europe looking over the hillside, seeing the vineyards, seeing the style of building that we have. It's very reminiscent of things that you would see in Italy or https://www.tripadvisor.com/Tourism-g187070-France-Vacations.html (France) or things like that. So that's probably the biggest surprise that people are just shocked that something like this exists in this area and that is so large. We do have an outdoor area with large oak trees where we have music and a food court and an outdoor wine bar that goes on https://www.lakeridgewinery.com/WATW/ (every weekend from noon to four on Saturdays and Sundays). And so they can come out even during the week, they can come out and get a bottle of wine, cheese tray or something like that, go out and sit at our picnic tables and just kind of enjoy the view. So it's very open. We like people to take a look around and see what's going on here and just kind of enjoy themselves while they are here. So it's not just kind of a walk into a retail shop, it's kind of a full experience. 98LX4waVSSSCEMbvzbAK https://dashboard.simplecast.com/accounts/69318096-ebff-4375-b720-e9aa4313b282/shows/be4c470d-cbfa-42db-8271-007d63bc1817/episodes/97c76958-8614-4ef0-9eeb-cdabc593d521/# (Show Less) This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Chartable - https://chartable.com/privacy Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacyhttps://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast (Support The Best 5 Minute Wine Podcast: https://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast) See https://omnystudio.com/listener (omnystudio.com/listener) for privacy information.

https://www.myflorida.com/ (Florida )started in the wine industry back in the early days when the settlers came over here. They discovered that these Muscadine grapes were here in https://www.myflorida.com/ (Florida), so they tried to make wine out of them didn't particularly like the flavor of it. They went ahead and brought over their own varieties from Europe. At one time, there were thousands of acres of grapes here in Florida. But they discovered that in this climate, they wouldn't grow. There's actually a bacteria. It gets in the vines, and it leads to what's now called https://piercesdisease.cdfa.ca.gov/ (Pierce Disease). And so, when all the vines died out after a couple of years, they eventually moved everything out to the West Coast. The wine industry kind of fell off here, of course, and it wasn't until, I don't know, the eighties early 80s when families like the Cox family started Lakeridge Winery they decided that they were going to reinvigorate the wine industry here, and they were going to make wine out of the native Muscadine grapes that grow here naturally. They failed at first, and then they kept trying and eventually got the formula right and the recipe right. And we're here today as https://www.lakeridgewinery.com/ (Florida's largest winery). Now when you say the largest winery, does that mean just visitors, or is that production? Yeah, we're Florida's largest by both visitorship and production. We are about one hundred and fifty hundred and sixty thousand case a year winery, which is by far the largest here in the state that's selling grape wines. There are a lot of other wineries here. There's only; I don't know, twenty to twenty-four wineries in the state. It's not a big industry here, and many of those are fruit wines, mostly blueberry wines because that's blueberries grow well here. There are a few like us that do grape wines, but we're by far the largest. This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Chartable - https://chartable.com/privacy Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacyhttps://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast (Support The Best 5 Minute Wine Podcast: https://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast) See https://omnystudio.com/listener (omnystudio.com/listener) for privacy information.

We take another listener voice mail question. It's time, boys and girls for our listener voicemail. Hi all. This is Rochelle calling from https://www.nashville.com/ (Nashville, Tennessee). My question to you is why? Why wine cost as much as it does. Nashville, Tennessee. I bet you're a big https://dollyparton.com/ (Dolly Parton) fan. All right, Rochelle, let's tackle your question, it takes about 12 grapes to make a bottle of wine and table grapes are two dollars a pound. Exactly. You can't compare apples to oranges to grapes. There's multiple layers that add to the cost of wine. Let's start off with real estate. You need oceanfront property, per se, to grow a vineyard. Then you factor in the cost of wine equipment. Let's just say you want to use one https://www.goldmedalwineclub.com/blog/post/differences-between-french-oak-and-american-oak-barrels (French oak barrel) that will cost you anywhere from eight hundred and fifty two thousand six hundred dollars for one barrel. And then once the wine leaves the winery, it's got to go to a distributor that adds to the markup. Then it goes to the retail store. All of those things factor into the cost of wine. But at the end of the day, when you got your feet up and you're sipping a glass, it's worth it. 98LX4waVSSSCEMbvzbAK This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Chartable - https://chartable.com/privacy Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacyhttps://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast (Support The Best 5 Minute Wine Podcast: https://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast) See https://omnystudio.com/listener (omnystudio.com/listener) for privacy information.

Well, New Mexico food is sort of a blend between https://cuesa.org/article/10-foods-native-americas#:~:text=1%20Squash%202%20Corn%20%28Maize%29%203%20Avocados%204,Tomatoes%208%20Tomatillos%209%20Amaranth%2010%20Sweet%20potatoes (Native American food) and Mexican food is the best way I can describe it. Obviously, the red and green chili's are big, here and everyone's got their own recipe for that. So if you went to one restaurant, it's going to have different red and green in the spice level is going to be different than in the restaurant down the street. So our wine is definitely made for that sort of pairing. They're not really heavy either. So you know, some of the Napa cabs can run up 16 percent and ours are really right in between 12 and 13 percent. Just because they're lower in alcohol and because of the area, they're going to be a little bit higher in acid. So they're going to be very friendly like this. The kind of heat would go with slightly sweeter, would go great with that spicy food. So we've got actually recipes on our website. If you look under wine cider and food pairings, we'll have the hard cider, the ones that go to the hard, hard cider, the white wine, and the red wine. We've got 15. And it's working with that same chef that we use with our virtual tastings as well. So she participates in that. You're not cooking food on the property, right? We don't. But the chef that I've been talking about, she makes these makes https://www.trendhunter.com/trends/wine-popsicles (Merlot popsicles). So we have those in our freezer. And then we also have this crostini box. She makes these homemade crostini and then blends them in with the local feta cheese and pistachios actually look pistachios from out of the dessert and local honey. So it's a really nice pairing with one of our whites. So when they get the crostini box, they get a half glass of white wine of their choice. But then other than that, we do have snacks. I mean, we try to stay local and we get local beef jerky and chips. And, you know, just something to nosh on with your tasting, Since you have such a large variety of wine and cider selections, I know it's going to be tough, but could you narrow it down to some favorites? There are two palates that we see on a daily basis. The ones that like the sweeter of the ones like the dry ones, the most popular for the dry wines. People really like the https://www.discovertuscany.com/montepulciano/ (Montepulciano) because it's number one at the vineyard. This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Chartable - https://chartable.com/privacy Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacyhttps://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast (Support The Best 5 Minute Wine Podcast: https://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast) See https://omnystudio.com/listener (omnystudio.com/listener) for privacy information.

Can you describe for me the New Mexico scenery as you drive up to the winery? So it is a gorgeous drive. I drive from https://www.santafe.org/ (Santa Fe) and it's when I first moved out here, just like this is like a https://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/title/18724/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly#overview (Clint Eastwood film). It's so rustic. You know, you see the Mesa's as we're driving up. Then you get into the towards the Taos, you know, as you come into the Rio Grande Valley just north of Velarde, you really you're right next to the river. So you've got the https://www.americanrivers.org/river/rio-grande-river/ (Rio Grande) on one side and then you have these huge mesas on the other side that are all littered with petroglyphs This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Chartable - https://chartable.com/privacy Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacyhttps://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast (Support The Best 5 Minute Wine Podcast: https://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast) See https://omnystudio.com/listener (omnystudio.com/listener) for privacy information.

In this episode, we head to the largest hot air balloon festival in the world. The state has more cows than people. Seventy-five percent of the roads are unpaved. From the top of https://www.nps.gov/cavo/index.htm (Capulin Volcano), you can see five different states. The state has more PhDs per capita than any other. And nearly 50 wineries are located in New Mexico. Hi, this is Katherine Lautenbach, marketing director at Black Mesa Winery. https://www.blackmesawinery.com/ (Black Mesa Winery) is in Velarde, New Mexico. So, just about 15 minutes north of Espanola. Or if you want to go from north to south? We're about forty-five minutes south of Taos, that https://www.skitaos.com/ (great ski valley) from Albuquerque. It would be a little over two hours. So if anybody wants to take the https://www.amc.com/shows/breaking-bad--18 (Breaking Bad) tour, then after that, they can head north. Yeah, we do it. We close at six. But you could probably make it as long as you're efficient with that. Breaking Bad to for sure. This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Chartable - https://chartable.com/privacy Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacyhttps://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast (Support The Best 5 Minute Wine Podcast: https://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast) See https://omnystudio.com/listener (omnystudio.com/listener) for privacy information.

What does it take to win https://www.winepressnw.com/magazine/2020/spring-2020/article241548606.html (Pacific Northwest Winery of the Year)?  “The reason you become Pacific Northwest Winery is that you can't just have a one-off vintage has to be, you know, a long track record of https://clearwatercanyoncellars.orderport.net/product-details/0166/2020-Albarino (great wines) that have, in this case, crushed the competition, you know, year after year. And we've done that. And it's amazing for us to do that with these wines.” - Coco Umiker - Winemaker & Owner,  Clearwater Canyon Cellars https://www.winepressnw.com/magazine/2020/spring-2020/article241548606.html (Pacific Northwest Winery of the Year by Wine Press Northwest) https://clearwatercanyoncellars.com/ (Clearwater Canyon Cellars) Coco's Reserve, Rock n J Blend This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Chartable - https://chartable.com/privacy Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacyhttps://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast (Support The Best 5 Minute Wine Podcast: https://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast) See https://omnystudio.com/listener (omnystudio.com/listener) for privacy information.

What wineries does Idaho's Winery of the Year look up to? https://wallawallavintners.com/ (Walla Walla Vintners  ) https://www.reustlevineyards.com/ (Reustle Prayer Rock Vineyards) https://www.winepressnw.com/magazine/2020/spring-2020/article241548606.html (Wine Press Northwest) This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Chartable - https://chartable.com/privacy Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacyhttps://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast (Support The Best 5 Minute Wine Podcast: https://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast) See https://omnystudio.com/listener (omnystudio.com/listener) for privacy information.

Co-owner and winemaker Coco Umiker discusses what it's like not having money yet still running a successful winery.  What are the benefits of living in a trailer park for 250.00 dollars a month?  "We were just like the sandlot kids. We were good at what we did because we understood the science so well. We knew where we could cut corners and where we absolutely could not. And we made wine styles that we knew we could do well and didn't try to force https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square_peg_in_a_round_hole (a square peg in a round hole)." -https://clearwatercanyoncellars.com/our-team/ (Coco Umiker) https://clearwatercanyoncellars.com/ (Clearwater Canyon Cellars) https://www.thebestwinepodcast.com/ (The Best 5 Minute Wine Podcast) This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Chartable - https://chartable.com/privacy Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacyhttps://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast (Support The Best 5 Minute Wine Podcast: https://www.patreon.com/thebestwinepodcast) See https://omnystudio.com/listener (omnystudio.com/listener) for privacy information.

Welcome to The Best Five Minute Wine Podcast, I'm your host, Forrest Kelly. From the seed to the glass, wine has a past. Our aim at The Best Five Minute Wine Podcast is to look for adventure at wineries around the globe. After all, the grape minds think alike. Let's start the adventure. Our featured winery is: We continue our conversation with Coco Umiker of Clearwater Canyon Cellars. The last episode you kind of touched on the topic of Brettanomyces. It's always hard for me to say it, let alone spell it. B, R, E, TT, A, N, O M Y C E S - I've never been good at spelling orally because it is so difficult to say. Iin the industry, a lot of times people refer to it as BRETT - B, R, E, TT, wine. In looking it up, it comes from the Greek term for British fungus. You could see when you tell people how the process works at a molecular level, you can kind of see their eyes glaze over. Oh, my gosh. Getting a chemical lesson here for you. That's where the joy is, right? Oh, my God. Yeah. I love I was thinking yesterday, actually, how just obsessed Karl. Both are with the continual learning and crafting of wine from the grape to the bottle. This has been a crazy summer and we may only have like a week to to carve off or maybe not even a full week. We might have like a weekend to carve off a somewhat of a vacation. And we're actually talking about going to a different wine area and checking it out. You would think when you make and grow wine every single day, you would want to go do something else on your vacation. But yeah, we're obsessed. And you know, that science of it to me is where the magic is. The most interesting manipulation is if you want to say that you can do in a wine as a winemaker to make different flavors, really pop to accentuate certain characteristics. Seemingly simple timing of adding oxygen timing on leaves and how you manipulate that leaves. So leaves is like all the yeast and little bits of skins and grapeseed that settle at the bottom of the barrel. You put that great must when you're done fermenting through primary fermentation, you put that grape mass in the press and you press it off and people either go to a tank or a barrel. I usually go to a barrel. You know, the press removes a majority of the skins and seeds, but not all of it. There's always little bits that get through the yeast. And a lot of times you continue fermenting in the barrel for a while through the fermentation and things like that. So when all is said and done, it settles to the bottom of the barrel in this delicious mud. It's kind of a red color usually because it takes on some of the wine color and yeast and bacteria and a little bit skins and seeds. And how you handle that leaves as a winemaker is a big deal Because we jump back for just a second in the time frame. Was there a point because you are so young and you're starting out with this ambitious goal, was there a point when you said, wow, what kind of an epiphany we can make this work? Yeah, it's funny. You know, nobody's really asked me that question before. My family's been here since 1916 and I'm the fourth generation. 1916? Yeah. OK, so we're in Idaho Century Farm. Sometimes people ask me why the farms lasted and I believe it's because we've all been long-lived. My great grandparents started it. Grandma Irene ended up having to run the farm on her own. Actually my great grandfather died, but my great grandmother Irene lived to be 93. She passed it on to my grandfather, who lived to be 96. And then he was the one that Carl and I discussed this next generation with him about like the next hundred years, Grandpa, like, what did it look like for us? And then we came to him and my mom, too. So my mom is still living and grandpa and my mom really kind of handed the baton to my my husband and I. But when we asked them if we could plant that quarter acre, you know, I think most of Lewison probably thought we were kind of crazy. I was twenty two. I was like barely legal to even...