Podcasts about deutero isaiah

Since the organization of the Church, leaders have called for world-wide religious liberty and harmony: “We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may” (Articles of Faith 1:11). In this episode, Dr. Joshua M. Sears, associate professor of ancient scripture, details how we might answer the prophetic call to not only love and respect people of different faiths but to also learn from them. He discusses the importance of adapting trustworthy interfaith resources into our spiritual lives. Additionally, he details how to locate and evaluate reliable resources, and describes one ecumenical resource, BibleProject, as an example. Without diluting our doctrinal uniqueness or missionary mandate, we can build strong relationships with our religious neighbors and learn from the truth that is “scattered liberally across the globe” (Elder Christofferson).   Publications: “Learning from People of Other Faiths” (Religious Educator, 24.2, 2023) Covenant of Compassion: Caring for the Marginalized and Disadvantaged in the Old Testament (Religious Studies Center, 2021) “Study Bibles: An Introduction for Latter-day Saints” (Religious Educator, 20.3, 2019) “Deutero-Isaiah in the Book of Mormon” (Y Religion, episode 86, 2023) “Study Bibles for Saints” (Y Religion, episode 35, 2021) BibleProject Videos: https://bibleproject.com/explore/   Click here to learn more about Joshua M. Sears

Early Christians often identified the Book of Isaiah as "the fifth gospel." Yet its theology, rhetoric, and even authorship complicates such easy description. Today, the Third Hour Podcast talks about the book's second major section. Who was Deutero-Isaiah? What did they hope their audience would learn from their writing? Hopefully we can shed some light on those enduing questions.

Today Dr. Tony joins us as we look at Second Isaiah, Deutero Isaiah, or whatever you want to call it. We talk about comfort, hope, and prophecy. Questions for reflection: - Where have you encountered God this week? Readings for next week: Haggai Links mentioned in this episode: - Dr. Tony's notes on Isaiah (https://www.stmartininthefields.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Intro-to-Deutero-Isaiah.pdf) - The Bible Project overview of Isaiah (https://bibleproject.com/guides/book-of-isaiah/) - Check us out on YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@biblelovepodcast) The show music is "Silver Lining" by Brent Wood, licensed under Soundstripe

On this episode of "God's Got Issues," we dive into the wacky world of Isaiah 54, where God's playing the role of a divine husband with a flair for melodrama and empty promises. We send a shout-out to our latest patron saint of skepticism, Kevin P., because nothing says 'holy support' like cash donations. We correct a little biblical boo-boo on Deutero-Isaiah's dating profile, and don't forget our cult... I mean, community meet-up on Discord - it's a hoot!Prepare to cringe as we dissect the Bible's bizarre fetish for marriage metaphors, where God is apparently the universe's worst spouse, offering bling and emotional whiplash. We take a jab at the scripture's stigmatization of widowhood because, in the good book, a woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle - totally unimaginable.Next, we delve into the theological equivalent of a bad Tinder date, where God love-bombs Israel with grandiose vows that history proves are about as reliable as a chocolate teapot. We discuss whether God's divine promises during the Holocaust were just an 'oopsie,' or if the Big Guy upstairs is a bit of a ghoster.Finally, we wrap it up with a quick chat about the biblical propaganda machine that was Isaiah's writings. We speculate whether ancient scribes were just spinning tales to keep the faith or if they genuinely believed their own hype. Either way, it's a masterclass in gaslighting. So grab your favorite heathen snack, tune in, and prepare to facepalm - it's going to be a blasphemous ride.Join us on DISCORD: https://discord.gg/8RwwMrb5zKSkip the ads by joining Acast+ https://plus.acast.com/s/6331d364470c7900137bb57dThank you for stopping by Sacrilegious Discourse - Bible Study for Atheists!Check out these links for more information about our podcast and merchandise:Our Homepage: https://sacrilegiousdiscourse.com/ Join Acast+ to enjoy our podcast adfree! https://plus.acast.com/s/sacrilegiousiscourse. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Get ready to roll your eyes to the heavens as we dive headfirst into the murky waters of ancient delusions in this week's episode of our blasphemously educational podcast. Our episode, "Isaiah Chapters 39 - 43 Q&A," is so jam-packed with divine drivel and human hubris, it might just be mistaken for an ancient soap opera script. We'll tiptoe through the tulips of Isaiah's doomsday prophecies, where every other verse smells like an "I told you so" from a god who's way too invested in micromanaging his creations.First up, we'll dissect the oh-so-wise King Hezekiah's "show and tell" session with the Babylonians that goes about as well as you'd expect when you flaunt your bling to your frenemies. Spoiler alert: Isaiah wasn't amused, and neither are we. But hey, nothing screams "divine justice" like punishing the kiddos for daddy's blunders, right?Then, we put on our skeptic's hats (they're very stylish) and navigate the sharp turn from doom to hope as we shift from proto-Isaiah to Deutero-Isaiah. Because nothing says "consistent narrative" like a total change in tone and authorship. We'll wax poetic about the Bible's split personality as both a dusty history book and a catalyst for modern-day moral mayhem. Prepare for a journey of face-palming proportions as we grapple with the idea that these ancient words still dictate real-world policy. Oh, the humanity!In our chapter summaries, we offer a no-holds-barred recap of the divine comedy that is Isaiah 39-43. Expect an unholy mix of Q&A, with side servings of frustration and incredulity as we dissect prophecies with all the accuracy of a horoscope in a gossip magazine. We'll mock the ludicrousness of basing life choices on the musings of prophets who thought the world was flatter than a pancake and who couldn't prophesy their way out of a papyrus bag.Finally, in a transcript that reads like a satirical skit, we mock everything from Hezekiah's foolishness to the Bible's penchant for punishing posterity for their ancestors' oopsies. Because nothing says "loving and just deity" like holding a grudge for generations.So join us, the irreverent duo, as we continue to question the celestial dictatorship and chuckle at the human circus that's been tumbling out of this holy text for millennia. If you thought sacred scriptures couldn't get more absurd, we're here to prove you delightfully wrong. See you in the heretics' corner—where the thinking's critical, the commentary's snarky, and the divine retribution is as absent as evidence for the supernatural.Join us on DISCORD: https://discord.gg/8RwwMrb5zK Join Acast+ to enjoy our podcast adfree! https://plus.acast.com/s/sacrilegiousiscourse. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

About one third of the book of Isaiah is quoted in the Book of Mormon. A challenge can arise, however, with what is known as Deutero-Isaiah. This is a theory that there were additional authors who wrote portions of Isaiah after Lehi and his family fled Jerusalem with the brass plates. Because the Book of Mormon quotes from these portions, some have thought that these quotations are out of place. In this episode, professor Joshua Sears summarizes Latter-day Saint approaches to Deutero-Isaiah in the Book of Mormon. Publications: “Deutero-Isaiah in the Book of Mormon: Latter-day Saint Approaches” in They Shall Grow Together: The Bible in the Book of Mormon (RSC, 2022) Click here to learn more about professor Joshua Sears

The theology of the haftarot of the exile prophets like Deutero-Isaiah is hard for most people to relate to:  "You are in exile, your life is full of tragedy, and I love you, I remember you as you were before, but I won't be getting you out of the situation you got yourself in, and which I warned you repeatedly about."  This is the kind of "unloving" God that Christian theologians for millenia have accused Jews of having.  Yet do those in Al-Anon understand it in a way they can teach us?  

We continue our series exploring specific issues and asking if “Is Mormonism Absurd?” with this episode examining the bible. RESOURCES:  3rd Isaiah or Deutero-Isaiah https://www.timesandseasons.org/harchive/2017/03/deutero-isaiah-in-the-book-of-mormon/index.html 3rd Isaiah or Deutero-Isaiah https://bycommonconsent.com/2016/02/12/2-nephi-and-the-deutero-isaiah-problem-in-the-book-of-mormon-bom2016/ Haley Lemmon on the Adam Clarke Commentary and LDS Inspired Bible https://mormondiscussionpodcast.org/2018/05/haley-lemmon-joseph-smith-translation-revelation-plagiarism/ BYU’s acknowledgement of Joseph Smith’s Plagarism of Adam Clarke’s Commentary http://jur.byu.edu/?p=21296 Book of… Read More »Mormon Discussion: 374: Is Mormonism Absurd? – The Bible The post Mormon Discussion: 374: Is Mormonism Absurd? – The Bible appeared first on Mormon Discussions Podcasts - Full Lineup.

We continue our series exploring specific issues and asking if “Is Mormonism Absurd?” with this episode examining the bible. RESOURCES:  3rd Isaiah or Deutero-Isaiah https://www.timesandseasons.org/harchive/2017/03/deutero-isaiah-in-the-book-of-mormon/index.html 3rd Isaiah or Deutero-Isaiah https://bycommonconsent.com/2016/02/12/2-nephi-and-the-deutero-isaiah-problem-in-the-book-of-mormon-bom2016/ Haley Lemmon on the Adam Clarke Commentary and LDS Inspired Bible https://mormondiscussionpodcast.org/2018/05/haley-lemmon-joseph-smith-translation-revelation-plagiarism/ BYU's acknowledgement of Joseph Smith's Plagarism of Adam Clarke's Commentary http://jur.byu.edu/?p=21296 Book of… Read More »Mormon Discussion: 374: Is Mormonism Absurd? – The Bible The post Mormon Discussion: 374: Is Mormonism Absurd? – The Bible appeared first on Mormon Discussion by Bill Reel.

Join John and Mike, from LDS Discussions for an introduction to the multiple authors of Isaiah and what that means for the Book of Mormon. ________ WE ARE 100% DONOR FUNDED! Thank you for your donations! Monthly Donor: Monthly Donor or https://donorbox.org/mormon-stories  One Time Donation: One Time Donation or https://donorbox.org/mormon-stories   Amazon Purchases:  ONLINE: Follow the link below and choose "Mormon Stories". Amazon will do the rest at no cost to you. Amazon Donates When You Purchase Items APP: Enable Amazon Smile in your app by following link below: Amazon Donates When You Purchase On The App ————— Like & Share our Podcasts!  Social Media/Information Links: MSP on Spotify Apple Podcasts MSP Blog Instagram Patreon TikTok Discord   Contact Us! MormonStories@gmail.com   Mormon Stories Podcast PO Box 171085 Salt Lake City, UT 84117 Show Notes: LDS Discussions on Anchor LDS Discussions on Spotify LDS Discussions Playlist on YouTube LDS Discussions Essay on Deutero-Isaiah Tight vs Loose Translation Episode David Bokovoy MS episodes David Bokovoy: Authoring the Old Testament: Genesis - Deuteronomy MS Bart Ehrman episode Noah's Flood - w/ Simon Southerton Adam and Eve MS episode with LDS Discussions: BOM translation episode with LDS Discussions Maven's MS Episode By Common Consent: 2 Nephi and the Deutero-Isaiah Problem in the Book of Mormon #BOM2016 Anthony Miller's MS episodes  

Join John and Mike, from LDS Discussions for an introduction to the multiple authors of Isaiah and what that means for the Book of Mormon. Show Notes: LDS Discussions on Anchor LDS Discussions on Spotify LDS Discussions Playlist on YouTube LDS Discussions Essay on Deutero-Isaiah Tight vs Loose Translation Episode David Bokovoy MS episodes David Bokovoy: Authoring the Old Testament: Genesis - Deuteronomy MS Bart Ehrman episode Noah's Flood - w/ Simon Southerton Adam and Eve MS episode with LDS Discussions: BOM translation episode with LDS Discussions Maven's MS Episode By Common Consent: 2 Nephi and the Deutero-Isaiah Problem in the Book of Mormon #BOM2016 Anthony Miller's MS episodes --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/lds-discussions/message

Description: A look at how a late addition to the New Testament ended up in the Book of Mormon and what that tells us about the Book of Mormon's credibility as an ancient text. Show Notes: LDS Discussions: Long Ending of Mark MS Episode on KJV and the BOM MS Episode on Deutero Isaiah and the BOM (TBD) MS Episode on Tight vs. Loose translation of Book of Mormon Radio Free Mormon Podcast: Backdating Prophecy Bart Ehrman MS Episode Bart Ehrman Books  Bart Ehrman Blog ————— We are 100% donor funded! Please click HERE to donate and keep this content coming! Click here to donate monthly: $10 $25 $50 ————— MSP on Spotify MSP on Apple Podcasts MSP Blog Instagram Patreon TikTok Discord   Contact Us! *MormonStories@gmail.com *PO Box 171085 Salt Lake City, UT 84117

A look at how a late addition to the New Testament ended up in the Book of Mormon and what that tells us about the Book of Mormon's credibility as an ancient text. LDS Discussions: Long Ending of Mark MS Episode on KJV and the BOM MS Episode on Deutero Isaiah and the BOM (TBD) MS Episode on Tight vs. Loose translation of Book of Mormon Radio Free Mormon Podcast: Backdating Prophecy Bart Ehrman MS Episode Bart Ehrman Books Bart Ehrman Blog --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/lds-discussions/message

In 1892, a German scholar named Bernhard Duhm published a book titled, Das Buch Jesaiah (Gottingen: Vandenhoek & Ruprecht, 1892). Duhm is credited with being the first to identify four “songs,” or “poems” within Deutero-Isaiah (chapters 40-66) which he called Servant Songs. These four Isaiah texts (42:1-4; 49:1-6; 50:4-7; 52:13-53:12) provide us with the basis [...]

While some claim the value of the Book of Mormon stems from its historicity, problems like multiple scholarship of Isaiah challenge these claims. We present the first ever (that we are aware of) LDS comprehensive outlook on the Deutero-Isaiah problem of the Book of Mormon and how LDS apologists deal with the anachronism that Lehi and Nephi could not possibly have had access to the later Isaiah chapters. Part 1 - Introduction to the Deutero-Isaiah Problem Part 2 - Arguments for/against Multiple Authorship of Isaiah YouTube live version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYTePAdIy5s&t=2s View the powerpoint and scripture verses referenced here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lZnbHgaoREdhPlxXccxk0QnFd1tcTiBY/view?usp=sharing Blog article explaining our motivation for doing this podcast: https://medium.com/@BrandonLy1/why-the-ces-letter-a05254bc3950 --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/smalltalkwiththelys/support

While some claim the value of the Book of Mormon stems from its historicity, problems like multiple scholarship of Isaiah challenge these claims.  We present the first ever (that we are aware of) LDS comprehensive outlook on the Deutero-Isaiah problem of the Book of Mormon and how LDS apologists deal with the anachronism that Lehi and Nephi could not possibly have had access to the later Isaiah chapters.  Part 1 - Introduction to the Deutero-Isaiah Problem Part 2 - Arguments for/against Multiple Authorship of Isaiah  YouTube live version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYTePAdIy5s&t=2s View the powerpoint and scripture verses referenced here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lZnbHgaoREdhPlxXccxk0QnFd1tcTiBY/view?usp=sharing  Blog article explaining our motivation for doing this podcast: https://medium.com/@BrandonLy1/why-the-ces-letter-a05254bc3950 --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/smalltalkwiththelys/support

Disciple Bible Study, 11-13-19,Deutero-Isaiah by St Thomas the Apostle

We discuss the incomparable nature of God, the origin of the word “gospel,” and the theory of “Deutero-Isaiah.”

No punches pulled this week, folks. The Judges story narrates a story of truly inhuman violence that pushes the tribes into a civil war, and we are forced to confront the age-old abomination of man's inhumanity to woman. Thankfully, Deutero-Isaiah and the John pull us back from the brink to show us the better way.Read more »

The audio and the full text of the sermon are below. There are also questions for reflection at the bottom. Feel free to discuss on our sermon discussion group on Facebook.This is part one in a five part series on The Servant Songs. Acts 8:26-39 (NRSV)26 Then an angel of the Lord said to Philip, “Get up and go toward the south[g] to the road that goes down from Jerusalem to Gaza.” (This is a wilderness road.) 27 So he got up and went. Now there was an Ethiopian eunuch, a court official of the Candace, queen of the Ethiopians, in charge of her entire treasury. He had come to Jerusalem to worship 28 and was returning home; seated in his chariot, he was reading the prophet Isaiah. 29 Then the Spirit said to Philip, “Go over to this chariot and join it.” 30 So Philip ran up to it and heard him reading the prophet Isaiah. He asked, “Do you understand what you are reading?” 31 He replied, “How can I, unless someone guides me?” And he invited Philip to get in and sit beside him. 32 Now the passage of the scripture that he was reading was this:“Like a sheep he was led to the slaughter, and like a lamb silent before its shearer, so he does not open his mouth.33 In his humiliation justice was denied him. Who can describe his generation? For his life is taken away from the earth.”34 The eunuch asked Philip, “About whom, may I ask you, does the prophet say this, about himself or about someone else?” 35 Then Philip began to speak, and starting with this scripture, he proclaimed to him the good news about Jesus. 36 As they were going along the road, they came to some water; and the eunuch said, “Look, here is water! What is to prevent me from being baptized?” 38 He commanded the chariot to stop, and both of them, Philip and the eunuch, went down into the water, and Philip baptized him. 39 When they came up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord snatched Philip away; the eunuch saw him no more, and went on his way rejoicing.Phillip is told by an angel to go to a particular road. Phillip goes. On that road there was a chariot, parked for the time being I suppose, and in the chariot was an Ethiopian official who was in charge of the royal treasury. This official, who remains nameless, had come to Jerusalem to worship God and was returning home. The Holy Spirit tells Phillip to go over to the chariot. Phillip goes, and hears the Ethiopian official reading out loud from Isaiah. Phillip asks, “do you understand what you’re reading?” The official answers back, “How can I, unless someone guides me?” And then the official invites Phillip to join him. After reading a section, specifically Isaiah 53:7-8, the Ethiopian official asks Phillip whether the prophet is referring to himself or to someone else. The passage the Ethiopian official read is from one of the four servant songs, which are found in Isaiah 42:1-9, Isaiah 49:1-13, Isaiah 50:4-9, and Isaiah 52:13-53:12.These four passages didn’t come to be known as the Servant Songs until Berhard Duhm identified them that way in 1922. Interestingly, they aren’t actual songs - they are simply part of the poetry of Isaiah. Duhm didn’t call them songs either. It is likely that the German word dichtung was simply mistranslated as song, rather than poem. “Servant Songs” does have a nicer ring to it, though. Duhm had some very specific theories about his Servant Poems, but ever since 1922, the great debate around these songs has echoed the Ethiopian Official’s question to Phillip, that was asked close to two millennia ago - about whom is the prophet speaking? Or, more directly - who is the servant of the Servant Songs?In 1948, Christopher North, in his book The Suffering Servant in Deutero-Isaiah summarized about 50 years of debate, some of which predated Duhm’s theories, about the servant’s identity. North found scholars in the first half of the twentieth century to be all over the map on this question. Here is a list of who scholars claimed the servant could be (don’t worry if you don’t recognize all these names):- Eleazar- Zerubbabel- Jehoiachin- Moses- Ezekiel- Hezekiah- Jeremiah- Uzziah- Cyrus- Isaiah himself- An unknown teacher of the law- An anonymous messianic figure already born in the prophet’s time- A personification of the collective Israel- A personification of an ideal Israel- A pious remnant of Israel- A future messianic figure- A mythological/symbolic figureSo, who is it? The Christian might want to immediate jump to identify the servant as a future messianic figure (i.e. Jesus), but remember that each of the early twentieth century scholars North cited were Christians themselves trying to solve a puzzle presented by a very ancient text.We may also be quick to claim that Phillip gives the answer. Phillip answers the servant identity question with “Jesus” so shouldn’t we. On closer examination of the exchange between Phillip and the Ethiopian Official, we find that Phillip didn’t simply jump to Jesus. Rather, we are told that “Phillip began to speak, and starting with this scripture, he proclaimed to him the good news about Jesus.”We do not know whether Phillip drew a direct correlation between the servant and Jesus. What we do know is that Phillip pointed someone who did not know the good news toward Jesus by using this text. Had the Ethiopian Official been reading a different biblical text, surely Phillip would have still pointed him to the good news about Jesus by using whichever text was at hand. This tells us less about the servant songs and more about the truth that we cling to that Scripture in its entirety points to Jesus Christ.Whatever Phillip said to the Ethiopian Official, the Holy Spirit was at work in the man’s heart. Phillip told him the good news about Jesus and, as they drove along in the chariot, they saw some water by the side of the road. The Official stops the chariot and says “What is to prevent me from being baptized?”This is really quite remarkable. The official makes a connection between the good news that Phillip shares and his participation in the good news, and he makes that connection in an instant. The Ethiopian Official is basically saying “if what you are saying is true, then I should be baptized just like anyone else.” This makes a powerful statement about the good news. The good news as Phillip told it must have been focussed on the fact that anyone could be part of God’s covenant people through the death and resurrection of Jesus. Jesus had made it possible for more that the Jewish people to be in this covenant and it was a done deal. It was news, news about an event, something that God had already accomplished through Jesus. Phillip was not asking the Ethiopian Official to make a choice, or to accept Jesus into his heart. He was simply telling him that God’s grace was available to him without the requirements of adhering to law or custom. God’s grace was for him because of Jesus. Period. The Official’s request, no, demand for baptism, came from his joy and enthusiasm to participate in the life that God was now offering him in Christ. “If this is really true, then I am claiming it. Try and stop me from being baptized. There’s some water - I’m in!”We could spend an inordinate amount of time trying to figure out who the servant is in the servant songs. We could try and answer the Ethiopian Official’s question. We could try and piece together exactly what Phillip said and whether he began by telling the Official that the prophet was in fact speaking of Jesus.We could also ask a different “who” question. Who are you in this story?Phillip and the Ethiopian are both strong characters in what is a wonderful narrative told by a master storyteller. Which one are you?Before you answer, let’s examine the character of each very briefly.The Ethiopian Official believes in God, he worships the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. He reads from the Bible and tries to understand it. At the beginning of our story he does not yet know about Jesus, or at least, he does not know the implications of the good news. He is a seeker. He is interested in God. When he hears the good news, he is ready to receive it and it had a changing effect on him. Phillip acts as a mentor for the Ethiopian Official. He helps a seeker find. He explains scripture through the lens of Jesus and the gospel. Phillip proclaims the good news in a conversation. In so doing, Phillip re-affirms his own belief, his own convictions about God, and especially about Jesus Christ. In fact, Jesus is to be found at the very centre of Phillip’s convictions about God.When the Ethiopian Official is baptized there is also an effect on Phillip. He would have remembered his own baptism and had it renewed.Are you a seeker needing to find? Or are you a mentor who also needs renewal? While this story is very unique in the New Testament, it’s overall theme is not. One mentors another in the gospel. This is essentially what Jesus asked his disciples to do when he commissioned them to go into all the world and make disciples of all manner of people. The church in the west went through a time where we shyed away from this, or perhaps felt that it was no longer needed. Institutions took care of this, culture took care of this. But mentoring others in faith is very much needed today. Every Christian at one time or another can see themselves in this story. Every believer will, at one time or another, feel very much like the Ethiopian Official - not quite understanding, but seeking, and hoping that the seeking is not hopeless. The hope is that every seeker and mentor will gain or regain an enthusiasm for faith - “you can’t stop me from being baptized!” The hope is also that every Christian will have opportunities to be Phillip, and share the gospel with someone who has not yet heard it. The opportunities for this are more and more frequent in our world.The Church needs to find ways of walking alongside seekers the way Phillip walked alongside. It’s not as though the Church never did this before - we have simply forgotten. One of the most powerful ways that this is displayed is in the season of Lent.For much of the history of the Church, people were baptized at Easter, and quite often, only at Easter. This is still true in many corners of the church. Also, for much of Christian history, those to be baptized or confirmed, if they were baptized as an infant, went through a long process of preparation. For many this process was a year, sometimes up to two years. The process was called catechesis, and those being prepared and trained where called the catechumenate, or catechumens.The final days of preparation to be baptized would be marked by fasting, prayer and self-examination. Catechumens would ask. Am I able to take a vow renouncing evil? Am I willing to take a vow accepting Christ as Saviour and Lord? Will I, with the help of the Spirit, live a life of repentance in the home of the Church - turning away from sin and turning toward God? These are self examination questions, and they are essential in what one promises at baptism or confirmation.The final days of preparation coincided with the observance of Lent by the whole Church. The entire Church would be praying, fasting, and examining themselves. The entire church would be focussed on repentance - turning away from sin, and toward God. Essentially, the whole Church would be walking with the catecumenate in their final preparation before being baptized. The whole Church was being Phillip for the new seeker.Think of the celebration when the baptisms happened at Easter. All would have their own vows renewed. All would remember their baptism and the grace that it represented. On Ash Wednesday we are reminded of our own mortality. Christians receive a sign of ashes to remind them that they are dust and to dust they shall return. Why do we do this? Is it to motivate us to live life well because time is short? Is it to scare us into believing? Neither of these is helpful as far as I’m concerned.The symbol and reminder of death, however, is significant, and once again related to baptism and the overall life of discipleship in Christ. sBaptism is a sign and seal of our union with Christ, who died and then rose again. When we embrace our baptism, we are embracing that we have died to an old way of life. We leave that part of life behind in the waters of baptism, either washed away or, more apt for our purposes here, dead in the water. We come up out of the water to a new life.The pattern of Christianity is not “live now for tomorrow we die.” It is this: “die to the old way of life and be reborn in Christ.” This is the journey through Lent which begins on Ash Wednesday and ends on Easter Sunday. We receive a sign of ash, of our death, on the Wednesday, and then celebrate as seekers come through the waters on the Sunday to new life. We are renewed in our own life in Christ as well.This journey of self-examination, prayer and fasting is spread out over 40 days in Lent, but is also found in smaller form on the Easter weekend. On Friday we remember Christ’s death, on Saturday we wait, on Sunday we celebrate the resurrection. We don’t always love the Friday and Saturday, particularly, to my thinking, the Saturday. We tend to ignore it, but this is the very place of prayer and preparation. What will we do with Holy Saturday? That day is Lent intensified. Jesus is in the tomb and we ought to place ourselves there too, at God’s mercy. We have died and hope to witness resurrection on the Sunday.Every year we have the opportunity for this renewal, where we can reclaim our baptism where we die and rise with Christ. Every year we check in with God to reorient our lives to him. And the Churches traditions remind us that that journey is not meant to be taken alone. The seeker needs the mentor, and in many ways, the disciple needs the seeker so that they can be reminded of the newness of life in Christ and what it really means.The excitement of the Ethiopian Official is infectious - seasoned disciples of Jesus need more of that. Bring on those who don’t quite understand what they read if they look at the sacred scriptures, or perhaps more likely today, those who don’t quite know what or who they are seeking. We have news for them, and it is very good news.We will spend some time using the servant songs as our jumping off point, just as Phillip did with the Ethiopian Official. There are certainly many threads to pull on in the servant songs without ever looking at the New Testament. We are however, going to take our cues from this encounter between Phillip and the Ethiopian Official. This is an occasion to engage with the good news about Jesus, not just conduct an intellectual exercise about particular poetry from Isaiah.We must pick up on the first thread of the Holy Spirit’s activity. Phillip is prompted by an angel to go to the south road. Then he is prompted by the Holy Spirit to stand near enough the chariot to hear the scroll being read. We must listen for the Holy Spirit and also must learn to obey. Who is the Spirit telling you to stand next to? Perhaps you are to mentor them in the good news.There are the threads of conversation, invitation and proclamation. Phillip and the Ethiopian Official have a two way conversation. Phillip doesn’t preach a sermon, but he does proclaim the good news. Most likely, you will be mentored or will mentor in conversation, but we must open ourselves to this. You may also ask yourself who in your life needs to be invited to the conversation. Who might need to hear the good news? Who is a seeker who you can talk to or even bring to Church so they can be exposed to the gospel of Jesus Christ.We will pull on the thread of baptism. This may be an occasion for you to renew your baptism, to be reminded of what it means and to reclaim your vows. Perhaps you have not yet been baptized and this is an occasion to consider it, or like the Ethiopian Official, to enthusiastically claim it. Finally, we will all hopefully claim the thread of enthusiasm. The Ethiopian Official couldn’t be stopped as he claimed the promise of baptism. I pray that if you do not have it already, that you will find enthusiasm for the good news about Jesus in your life. That you will remember the fullness of your faith that culminates in a glorious new life in Christ.For Reflection1. What does it look like to be enthusiastic about the gospel? 2. Philip heard from an angel and was guided by the Holy Spirit. Try to imagine what Philip might have been doing (meditating? Praying? Dreaming?). Might the angel appeared in the form of a person? What can we do to hear from the Holy Spirit and to follow through on what we hear? 3. Are there any dangers in doing what we think the Holy Spirit is telling us to do? How can we avoid the pitfalls?4. Did Philip and the Ethiopian experience “church” on the desert road? Does the passage challenge us to think differently about what church might be?5. The claim was made that all of Scripture points to Jesus Christ. How can this be?6. Do you need a mentor in the gospel? Or, will you mentor someone in the gospel? What kinds of things can mentors do for seekers?7. Read Acts 8:9-24 (Simon the Sorcerer) to get some context for the story about Philip and the Ethiopian Official. Note the contrast between the two “seekers” (Simon -- who was wowed by the signs, miracles, and power that Philip seemed to have; as opposed to the Ethiopian, who was simply studying the scriptures in humility, with no thought of power or personal gain). Think of “seekers” you know, or times when you have been a “seeker.” What role does the Bible play for “seekers”? Feel free to discuss these or other questions on our sermon discussion group on Facebook.*Special thanks to Bonnie Zimmer for help formulating some of the above questions.

What is the Deutero-Isaiah theory? Was the Book of Isaiah written by multiple Isaiahs? Is there solid evidence that more than one person wrote the Book of Isaiah?

APOSTLE TALK  -  Future News Now!WWW.REALMIRACLES.COMwith Prince Handley THE DECEPTION AND DEMONSTRATION OF THE CHURCH AND SYNAGOGUEA PROPHECY You can listen to this message NOW.Click on the LibSyn pod circle (top left). Give it 20 seconds to load.Listen NOW or download for later. For INSTANT REPLAY, go to: www.blubrry.com/prophecy/ Email this message to a friend.RSS <!-- @page { margin: 0.79in } P { margin-bottom: 0.08in } --> THE DECEPTION AND DEMONSTRATION OF THE CHURCH AND SYNAGOGUE: A PROPHECY A PROPHECY FOR THE WESTERN CHURCH AND SYNAGOGUE In the future, MANY people will exit the following types of centres: The emerging centre.The evolutionary creationist centre (including evangelicals).The relevant, authentic seeker-friendly centre (including evangelicals). 1. People will exit these centres in mass numbers as a flood of MIRACLES begins to happen in the Bible believing pentecostal-charismatic centres. 2. Overlaying this period of miracle happenings will be a revelation to the members of many churches and synagogues that their rabbis and pastors do NOT believe that the Holy Bible is the inspired, inerrant Word of God in entirety. For these two reasons, many religious leaders (even conservative evangelicals) will become jealous, band together, and testify in court against the leaders of the REAL Bible believing groups; many will originate the charges against them. After a while, help will come to the leaders of the REAL Bible believing churches and synagogues. God will raise up deliverers who will help the leaders in these set times. Today we stand at the threshold of the biggest triangular deception the post modern followers of Yeshua have encountered. This deception will of itself create a schism in the perceived Body of Messiah. The Good News is that the schism which results will usher the Real Body of the LORD into the final end time harvest and positioning to help prepare Israel to receive her Messiah. There are three main areas of deception that will separate the end time power churches and synagogues from the WEAKENED body of believers. These areas of deception are: Evolutionary creationism (creation in Genesis 1 and 2 is not literal as written). Textual Criticism (some core content of the Bible is only myths or allegories; prophecies supposedly written after the happenings). Relativism and Authenticism (congregations claim to be relevant with authentic Christians). Two of these areas of deception have been around for a long time: 1. Evolutionary creationism; and, 2. Textual criticism. The third area of deception (Relativism and Authenticism) is more recent upon the scene, and has many evangelical rabbis and pastors seduced. What many – if not most – members of synagogues and churches do NOT realize is that their leaders (rabbis and pastors) do NOT believe that the Bible (Torah, Tanakh, Brit Chadashah) is “the inspired, inerrant, Word of God in entirety.” These leaders every week are deceiving their people. The people think their rabbis and pastors believe the Bible, when in reality they only believe “parts” of it. They do NOT believe that God created the Heavens and Earth in six literal 24 hour days. And they do not believe a lot of other things. I am NOT talking about liberal scholars or rabbis or pastors. I am talking about those in positions of leadership in conservative and orthodox congregations. What do you think would happen if they honestly told their congregations what they do NOT believe? Many synagogues and churches have sent their young men and women to seminary and yeshiva gedola or kollel only to have their faith slaughtered by rabbis and professors of doubt. Schools that once were conservative institutions, like Azusa Pacific (now University), are now turning out pastors and leaders who do NOT believe in the inerrancy of scripture, who do NOT believe in the Genesis account of creation (a literal 24 hour day – six day creation), who do NOT believe in the unity of the Book of Isaiah, and who basically have NO positioning from which to authoritatively minister in the Name of the LORD. At best they are social evolutionists, and at worst they are miracle neutralizers. Current statistics show the following: 63 percent of the new church plants in the USA are pentecostal-charismatic. 88 percent of the new church plants outside the USA are pentecostal-charismatic. Note: The term “pentecostal-charismatic” can include people from any religious background: denominational, non-denominational, Jewish, Protestant, Catholic, house, home or cell groups. It encompasses and describes those who have experienced and follow Messiah Yeshua as a result of the New Birth of the Spirit. To the Christian theologian (even some pastors), the reason for the rapid growth of the pentecostal-charismatic church is: “The are more active; they are a doing people.” However, what these commentators do NOT see is that the TRUE, VITAL pentecostal churches grow because the pastors (and people) believe the Holy Bible that is being preached and taught. And, the result is: God honors the belief in His Word, and regular, consistent miracles happen (Biblical signs and wonders). Let me underpin my observations – and, prophecy – by this statement: People are never jealous of a person unless the other person has more or better than they do. The pentecostal-charismatic churches definitely have more and better. The Gifts of the Spirit operate, miracles happen, and people generally share their faith more, with attendant signs (miracles) happening. Jealousy will be why, in coming months and years, rabbis and pastors (I am NOT talking about liberals, I am talking about those who claim to be conservative, orthodox, believers) will testify against (and, even have charges brought against) Bible believing rabbis and ministers. All these jealous leaders have to give their people is a sterile Jesus – a neutered Jesus. One who can save but probably can NOT heal or work a MIRACLE unless He just wants to, even though He promised to do so in His Word to us. After all, His Word is NOT His Word as far as they believe (and have been taught). Sadly enough, many of these leaders once believed in the Real Jesus, The Miracle Worker … and once believed that Holy Bible was true. (They will tell you it is true, but NOT literal.) As the flood of miracles … real miracles … begins to happen, people will start exiting churches to worship at the Bible believing pentecostal-charismatic churches. Also, overlaying this period of miracle happenings will be a revelation to the members of many churches and synagogues that their rabbis and pastors do NOT believe that the Holy Bible is the inspired, inerrant Word of God in entirety. The leaders who honor and teach the Bible account of Creation (literal six day / 24 hour day) will see increased miracles and healing flow to their people! During this time there will be a third wave which will also cause many people to migrate towards the pentecostal-charismatic synagogues and churches, AND home cell groups (house churches): Terrorism and overall depravity in government and society will increase to the level where many people will want holiness and not entertainment. They will want Bible preaching. They will want God in His glory. Watch and pray! We are living in exciting times. Baruch haba b'Shem Adonai. Your friend,Prince Handley P.S. - Ask your Rabbi or Pastor the following questions: 1. 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The Book of Isaiah (Hebrew: ישעיהו, ysha'ihàu; Greek: Ησαΐας, Esaḯas; Latin: Isāias) is a text contained in the Old Testament of the Christian Bible.It is written in Hebrew and, according to the hypothesis most shared by scholars, the final writing of the book took place in Judea in the fifth century BC by an unknown author, based on oracles and previous texts of different origin:Proto-Isaiah (chapters 1-39): ca. 740-700 BC during the ministry of the prophet Isaiah, particularly in the context of the Syro-Ephraimic War, exhortations to trust in God, transcendent and faithful;Deutero-Isaiah (chapters 40-55): 550-539 BC, during the Exile of Babylon, exhortation to the oppressed people, the "servant of Yahweh."Trito-Isaiah (chapters 56-66): 537-520 BC after return from exile, oracles against idolatry, hope for conversion of pagan nations.The common theme that catalyzed the Unitarian collection is that of God's Salvation of the people.(From Italian Wikipedia).Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

The Book of Isaiah (Hebrew: ישעיהו, ysha'ihàu; Greek: Ησαΐας, Esaḯas; Latin: Isāias) is a text contained in the Old Testament of the Christian Bible.It is written in Hebrew and, according to the hypothesis most shared by scholars, the final writing of the book took place in Judea in the fifth century BC by an unknown author, based on oracles and previous texts of different origin:Proto-Isaiah (chapters 1-39): ca. 740-700 BC during the ministry of the prophet Isaiah, particularly in the context of the Syro-Ephraimic War, exhortations to trust in God, transcendent and faithful;Deutero-Isaiah (chapters 40-55): 550-539 BC, during the Exile of Babylon, exhortation to the oppressed people, the "servant of Yahweh."Trito-Isaiah (chapters 56-66): 537-520 BC after return from exile, oracles against idolatry, hope for conversion of pagan nations.The common theme that catalyzed the Unitarian collection is that of God's Salvation of the people.(From Italian Wikipedia).