What the Punk!?

Sharon Bussell is a psychotherapist in private clinical practice.  She uses her trademarked psychotherapeutic model ARCA to help better understand individuals, family systems and larger societal systems.  Ramaa Krishnan is the founder of the Full Bloomed Lotus Center for Self-Awareness in Wilmette, Illinois.  She leads others in meditation, lessons in self-awareness, book discussions, and offers private counsel on living the middle path.https://x.com/i/flow/login?redirect_after_login=%2Fsharonbussellhttps://www.fullbloomedlotus.com/

Nothing to say here. Listen and Laugh. Enjoy the Steve Tapas vibes.

Songs appearing in this episode:Fleetwood Mac  "Hypnotized", "Black Magic Woman" and "TUSK"Da Smart "Walk wit me"Nas  "World's An Addiction"  

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https://www.jarrettdapier.com/https://soundcloud.com/jarrettdapierBands and songs appearing in this episode:Def Leppard  "Armageddon It"Europe "Rock The Night"Skid Row "Youth Gone Wild"Poison  "Look What The Cat Dragged In"Poltergeist Soundtrack /  Jerry Goldsmith  "Carol Anne's Theme" & "The Calling / The Neighborhood"Tortoise "Along The Banks Of Rivers"Motley Crue  "Shout At The Devil"  

https://www.jarrettdapier.com/https://soundcloud.com/jarrettdapierBands and songs appearing in this episode:Shat  "A Tight Fraternity of Thirteen Young Men" & "Enrico Ciccone"Hum  "The Scientists"Smashing Pumpkins  "Doomsday Clock", "Geek U.S.A.", & "United States"Rage Against The Machine  "Bulls on Parade"Metallica  "Creeping Death (LIVE- Seattle 89')" 

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https://www.tellyouwhatpodcast.com/https://www.grandpasplace.com/live-music-eventsArtists and Songs in the order that they appear:Sister Rosetta Tharpe  "Jericho"Buffalo Rose "Two Bottles"Margo Cilker  "That River"Maya de Vitry  "How Bad I Wanna Live"Twin Peaks  "Blue Coupe"Billy Strings  "Nothings Working"Fellow Pynins  "Pretty Polly"Fellow Pynins  "Chaunti Sea"Tom Paxton / Buffalo Rose  "I Give You The Morning"The Decemberists  "The Mariner's Revenge Song"Guy Clarke  "Desperados Waiting for a Train"

https://www.tellyouwhatpodcast.com/https://www.grandpasplace.com/live-music-eventsArtists and songs in this episode in order:Buffalo Rose  "Modern Love"Boy Golden  "Something to Work Towards"Black Pistol Fire  "Black Halo"Early James  "Straightjacket for Two"The Common Heart  "Who Dat Mama"Vivian Leva  "Last of My Kind"

Artists and songs in the order that they appear:The Meese "Goldilocks Zone"Ari Lindo "Talk to me"Sunvolume "Crystallizer"Sarah Weddle "Collecting dust"Waltzer "I don't want to die" (Live)Strange Foliage "Big Mouth"  

Artists and Songs in the order they appear:Graham Grease "Teething"Aunt Kelly "Master of my mind"Strange Foliage "Network"Indochine "College Boy"Blind Melon "Life ain't so shitty"Shoulderbird "Beholding"Old War "Pryomancer" https://www.arewenotcats.com/https://nighthawkchicago.com/

https://lonneg6.com/ Songs that appear in this episode in order:"Birds nest on the ground"  Lonne G"In the mood"  Tyrone Davis"Still called the Blues"  Lonne G"I wanna know"  Lonne G"Don't look any further"  Dennis Edwards"Moment of Balance"  Kym Franklin"Too late"  Lonne G"Hey Mr. DJ" Lonne G

https://lonneg6.com/ Songs that appear in this episode in order:"The Many Sides of Love"  Pick of the Litter /  Lonne G"Float On"  The Floaters"Standing in the Crossroad"  Lonne G"Hold on to the Blues"  Lonne G"Salute to the Blues"  Lonne G"Take your shoes for a walk"  Lonne G"You can't strike gold"  Lonne G 

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No notes.  I so appreciate you just listening and maybe taking something away from any of my shows.  

I know I keep saying in the podcast there are going to be links.  No links. Just listen.  

No notes.  No links.  Just listen.  Think.  Thank you for your ears and time.  Sully 

No notes.  No links.  Just listen.  Think.  Have a great day and thank you for supporting with your ears and time.  Sully 

Songs in this episode in the order the appear: "Burn to Emptiness" Chapter 13, "Don't Look" Nervous Rex, "Breaking Glass", "V-2 Schneider", "Up The Hill Backward", "I'm Deranged" David Bowie, "Senses" New Order, "Show Of Strength" Echo & The Bunnymen, "Noise Annoys" The Buzzcocks, "Oil Well Driller" Sea Monster, "RUN" Tin Machine, "What Jah Give" Frank M, "Three Girl Rhumba" Wire, "Nuclear Car" Chapter 13.  

Songs in this episode; Shine your love, Change, and When we are one.  And Torture should have been!  

PUSH BUTTON FUTURE is a collaborative album between the synth pop artist, NAE and the musician, engineer and producer BLIZZLE from Black's Backbone.  This is their first album together.  The songs featured in this episode are; "Sugar Pumps", "Euphoria Trattoria"(unreleased track), "Get off on your messages", and "Never Enough".The new album can be pre-saved here: https://ffm.to/naemusicNAE's website:http://www.naemusic.com/Article written by JaNae Contag:http://www.estheticlens.com/2021/02/05/1-album-janae-contag-yacht-i-thought-the-future-would-be-cooler/ 

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Chock full of music, slurred speech, and F-Bombs the boys wrap up all loose ends to this very long conversation about the past, present, and future of punk.

https://www.facebook.com/lucky7tattooIL/http://rcpunkarchive.com/index.php?title=Newshttps://www.rebrecords.comBands played on this episode or should have been:Dissent, Husker Du, Gang of Four, Nuisance, The Vandals, Someday Best, Arvo Part, KISS, Social Joke, VIA, The Persecuted, Cramps, Twin Temple, Naked Ray Gun, Poison Idea, Painful X-tremeties, Single File Line, Boris, Christ Bait, Bouncing Souls, and Gun Club.  Search them up and listen.  

https://www.facebook.com/lucky7tattooIL/http://rcpunkarchive.com/index.php?title=Newshttps://www.rebrecords.comBands played on this episode or should have been:Dissent, Husker Du, Gang of Four, Nuisance, The Vandals, Someday Best, Arvo Part, KISS, Social Joke, VIA, The Persecuted, Cramps, Twin Temple, Naked Ray Gun, Poison Idea, Painful X-tremeties, Single File Line, Boris, Christ Bait, Bouncing Souls, and Gun Club.  Search them up and listen.  

Sully's solution to all of the issues discussed with Beck that face this country and others is for people to stop financially supporting corporations that control Washington- "Our greatest weapon is to do with less and not give our hard earn money to people with private agendas that are destructive to the earth, our human rights, and our minds and bodies".  If lobby firms such as Venn Strategies can push laws through congress for the right amount of money and support, what chance does the average person have against giant industry such as the Sugar Lobby, Dairy Council, and Big Pharma?   Beck's familial roots go back to miners in rural Kentucky.  He connects the dots between folk musicians such as Woody Guthrie in the 1940's and today's Hip Hop artists like Noname, Jamila Woods, and Nas as being the voice that truly reflects what is happening on the streets of Black America.  Reflection needs a call to action or it is more of the same old, same old consumerism that currently defines our world.  Beck sounds like a socialist but what he really is, is a humanitarian.  Someone who believes that practices such as redlining and the denial of a universal healthcare system is not in the best interest of society as a whole.  That the greater good should be the goal.  Which is fascinating that someone of the "ME ME ME" generation has so much to say about the "WE WE WE".     Five Artists, Five songs, Five Thoughts from this podcast:Fatimah Now (Unofficial Mix Tape), Vry Blk, Cops shot the kid, Funeral Dress, I Ain't Got No Home In This World Anymore

Paraphrasing Gil Scott Heron's classic, "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised" this episode will not give your mouth sex appeal, it will not make you look five pounds lighter, it will not go better with coke, but it will put you in the drivers seat (or at least Dr. May will let you sit shot gun) in a musical car that takes you on a tour of a racially divided city unified by it's love of music. The Motor City. The first stop; the first teen idols. Pat Boone and Frank Sinatra, the first contributors to rock n' roll.  Stealing from negro spirituals, minstrel shows, and blues artists such as Lead Belly, Boone and Sinatra sang songs about idealized love within a 32 bar song structure which included tonic and subdominant chord changes.  Both Sinatra and Boone perform along with lavish orchestral arrangement and symphonic sweetening to produce "popular" music.  This "whitening" of black music for the general populace along with jazz standards by Cole Porter, Irving Berlin, and Duke Ellington created a canon of songs that would later become known as the Great American Song Book.  The next stop on our way to Detroit is Graceland. While growing up, Elvis frequented Memphis juke joints where he was exposed to gospel and blues. The influence of songs like the spiritual, "Ain't that good news" and "Come Home Early" by Big Bill Broonzy were key to the musical and cultural identity of "The King of Rock and Roll." Dr. May takes us from these early beginnings of Elvis as a blues singer with songs like, "That's All Right Mama" to his punk infused delivery on "Heartbreak Hotel" and finally rounding out the trip with "In the Ghetto".  A Gospel "disco-fied" ballad with socially aware lyrics.  In the third leg of the trip Dr. May parks us in the Motor City at the front door of Hitsville, USA.  Berry Gordy, influenced by the Black Entrepreneurship of the late 1950's, created Motown Records as a way to mine Detroit's talented young black people from churches and street corners in an attempt to create his own "wall of sound" and Brill Building of songwriters.  Marvin Gaye, Smokey Robinson, Wilson Pickett along with comedian Dick Gregory recorded for Motown Records.  Growing as artists, much like The Supremes with "Love Child", they took on social and racial issues of the time. During Detroit's era of white flight and segregation in the 1960's, Berry Gordy fought for racial equality and unification, sending Motown artists on the Motor Town Revue Tour.  It was Berry Gordy who convinced Martin Luther King, Jr. to record his "I have a dream" speech at Hitsville, USA before his march on Washington for jobs and freedom in 1963. At the end of out trip Dr. May leaves us with the thought that "music is a barometer of culture" and if you want to know what is happening at a particular moment you only need to listen to the music of that era. As we move into the 70s and 80s Dr. May paints a bleak picture of a floundering punk scene in Detroit. A scene rich in ideas but lacking visual identity, record label scouts, and radio stations that wouldn't event consider playing punk, made it difficult for local bands to gain fans or build career reputations.  Despite these obstacles bands like, Cinecyde who released Detroit's first official punk song "Gutless Radio" on their own Tremor Records in 1977 and Algebra Mothers with "Strawberry Cheesecake", were able to find small cult followings.These days the city is back on the musical map with a growing electronic  scene, known as Detroit Techno, while it's Motown and Punk roots are being documented by such sites as the detroitpunkarchive.com and the motownmuseum.org.  List of songs that are in this episode and songs that should be:coldcock, hidden persuasion, ain't that a shame, ain't that good news, twist and shout, twist and shout, black girl (where did you sleep last night), tamerlano, heartbreak hotel, in the ghetto, love child, they that wait, lord help me to hold out, fire and water, fingertips, gutless radio, the revolution will not be televised, strawberry cheesecake, star spangled banner 

Where does it all start?  Sully believes it begins with "the dangers of government."  The abuse of power, fear mongering, paranoia, deception and cover ups- that's where it, starts.  It, has a consequence. People begin to pay attention, begin to doubt and question the motives of their government.  When "the people" begin to act and demand accountability and transparency, people in power start to get caught. People like Joseph McCarthy and Richard Nixon. Movements and scenes emerge like the SDS (Students for a Democratic Society), The Black Panthers and The Weather Underground.  Both Ken Hughes' book, Chasing Shadows and Ronald Brownsteins', The Second Civil War, are the blueprints for these two episodes, while Good Morning Vietnam, Apocalypse Now and the documentary The Weather Underground directed by Sam Green and Bill Siegel help provide humor and context.  All of this set on a backdrop of folk, punk and rock music.  What was the media's impact on students and civilians alike by televising the Vietnam War?  Who was the Dragon Lady and why were the Paris peace talks sabotaged?  What were the political identities of newspapers and how did people rely on such magazines as Time and Life?  As these questions find answers, more questions undoubtedly unfold.  Whether you are a Republican, Democratic, Socialist, Communist, Liberal or maybe just a punk, this is the historical hootenanny to listen to.  Let the likes of Nina Simone, The Temptations, Dead Kennedys, and Barbara Dane chime into the conversation with such song's as "I wish I knew how it would feel to be free", "Holiday in Cambodia", and "Ballad of the Unknown Soldier".  These songs and their lyrics hold as much weight about this era as any book or conversation.  Much like the Folk Music Revival so eloquently documented in the book "Folk City: New York and the American Folk Music Revival" by Stephen Petrus and Ronald D. Cohen, John Flanagin brings thoughtful nuanced sensibilities to a time when everyone was being sent, in the words of Joe Strummer, "straight to hell."  List of songs that are in this episode and songs that should be:russian roulette, exhuming mccarthy, straight to hell, charlie don't surf, holiday in cambodia, ballad of the unknown soldier, I don't want your millions mister, ball of confusion, ride of the valkyries, run through the jungle, I wish I knew how it would feel to be free, funkier than a mosquito's tweeter, draft dodger rag, subterranean homesick blues, hurricane, shot of love, ohio, for what it's worth, ripple, dire wolf, hyperbolicsyllabicsesquedalymistic, going in circles, why do I keep fuckin' up, after the gold rush (full album), comes a time (full album), hot buttered soul (full album), black moses (full album), wake of the flood (full album), terrapin station (full album).   

Where does it all start?  Sully believes it begins with "the dangers of government."  The abuse of power, fear mongering, paranoia, deception and cover ups- that's where it, starts.  It, has a consequence. People begin to pay attention, begin to doubt and question the motives of their government.  When "the people" begin to act and demand accountability and transparency, people in power start to get caught. People like Joseph McCarthy and Richard Nixon. Movements and scenes emerge like the SDS (Students for a Democratic Society), The Black Panthers and The Weather Underground.  Both Ken Hughes' book, Chasing Shadows and Ronald Brownsteins', The Second Civil War, are the blueprints for these two episodes, while Good Morning Vietnam, Apocalypse Now and the documentary The Weather Underground directed by Sam Green and Bill Siegel help provide humor and context.  All of this set on a backdrop of folk, punk and rock music.  What was the media's impact on students and civilians alike by televising the Vietnam War?  Who was the Dragon Lady and why were the Paris peace talks sabotaged?  What were the political identities of newspapers and how did people rely on such magazines as Time and Life?  As these questions find answers, more questions undoubtedly unfold.  Whether you are a Republican, Democratic, Socialist, Communist, Liberal or maybe just a punk, this is the historical hootenanny to listen to.  Let the likes of Nina Simone, The Temptations, Dead Kennedys, and Barbara Dane chime into the conversation with such song's as "I wish I knew how it would feel to be free", "Holiday in Cambodia", and "Ballad of the Unknown Soldier".  These songs and their lyrics hold as much weight about this era as any book or conversation.  Much like the Folk Music Revival so eloquently documented in the book "Folk City: New York and the American Folk Music Revival" by Stephen Petrus and Ronald D. Cohen, John Flanagin brings thoughtful nuanced sensibilities to a time when everyone was being sent, in the words of Joe Strummer, "straight to hell."  List of songs that are in this episode and songs that should be:russian roulette, exhuming mccarthy, straight to hell, charlie don't surf, holiday in cambodia, ballad of the unknown soldier, I don't want your millions mister, ball of confusion, ride of the valkyries, run through the jungle, I wish I knew how it would feel to be free, funkier than a mosquito's tweeter, draft dodger rag, subterranean homesick blues, hurricane, shot of love, ohio, for what it's worth, ripple, dire wolf, hyperbolicsyllabicsesquedalymistic, going in circles, why do I keep fuckin' up, after the gold rush (full album), comes a time (full album), hot buttered soul (full album), black moses (full album), wake of the flood (full album), terrapin station (full album).  

 "...there is a danger in the show because the band is on the brink" is Sully's line toward the end of episode 5.  The discussion is the immediacy and the danger of frontmen like Iggy Pop, Jim Morrison, and Axl Rose creating an unpredictability for both their audience and their aforementioned bands.  While choreographed and practiced shows like U2, Marilyn Manson, and Nine Inch Nails provide a safe "arena" which plays out like performance art.  Can virtuosity lend its' self to immediacy?  Is there danger when it is well rehearsed?  What's the difference?  What's the affect on the audience?  When 76 year old Mick Jagger first walked out on stage at Soldier Field in Chicago after heart surgery there was real danger. It was not a  manufactured moment.  Jagger could have dropped dead.  Sully and Jason, both Stones fans, were there to recount the 2019 concert moment.  This episode also has an interview with Don Letts who is responsible for the reggae influence in UK punk as well as being a film maker and member of Mick Jones' post Clash band, Big Audio Dynamite. Don recounts what led him to becoming a champion of punk and why he got behind the camera.  Sully gives New York's very own David Peel the honors of first infusing reggae into rock with his band the Lower Eastside and their song, I want to kill you in 1966/70.  Songs in this episode and songs that should have made it:immigrant song, it's so easy, my michelle, I want to kill you, king of punk, the pope smokes dope, open the gate, no fun, loose, penetration, t.v. eye, search and destroy, add it up, promise, gimme the car, top floor bottom buzzer, women r dogs, the story of an artist, no more pushing joe around, wolves at the door, hard to be, I go wild, suck on the jugular, day 3, fated faithful fatal, fall of the house of death, march of the pigs, discipline, shit mirror, the bottomline, the globe

In this first episode of a two part interview the great debate proposed by Jeffery Lewis in episodes 2 and 3, that "PUNK music is white music minus the blues" continues.  Sully and Jason also jump around from post-punk to new wave to hair metal and back again.  Bands such as Mission of Burma, Elbow, and Minor Threat are talked about and played along side such groups as EXTREME, Bjork, and Suicide.  This episode is for listeners who want to really listen.  Whether it be the rich complexness of Fugazi or the chanting soundscapes of Elbow, Jason and Sully pick specific songs to play and talk about.  The songs mean something to each them on a deeper level that warrants more than a casual listen or 15 second snippet.  Only on WTP?! will Sully play two versions of the same song by two different artists back to back and let the listener decide which is the better version.  Come on in, find out and join the discussion.List of Songs in this episode:came here looking, straight edge, guilty of being white, shut the door, mexican standoff, don't mix your drinks, grounds for divorce, academy fight song, that's when I reach for my revolver, shadazz, shadowplay, twenty four hours, pornograffitti, a forest, jigsaw feeling, motorcrash, human behavior, ghost rider

In the second half of the interview with Freak Folk / Punk Artist Jeffrey Lewis Sully continues a deep dive into being a comic book artist, discovering Daniel Johnston and Jeff's evolution into becoming a musician while distilling down blues and folk music in order to figure out what makes punk music “punk”. Jeffrey is one of the most original songwriters Sully has come across in the last decade, “These are albums that people need to sit down with and just listen.”

Sully discovers Jeffrey Lewis' song Complete History Of Punk Rock  sending him down the rabbit hole of listening to all of Jeffrey's music from the album The Last Time I Did Acid I Went Insane to his new release Bad Wiring.  Enthralled by Jeffrey's musical and lyrical sensibilities, as well as his underground comic book FUFF, Sully reaches out to talk about the origins of the punk ethos from 1960's folk revival and psychedelic / freak-folk groups  through the 1970's scene on both sides of the Atlantic and his work as an artist.  The two songwriters talk about creative process, touring, and what it means to be an independent artist these days.  Jeffrey references the Anti Folk bands Prewar Yardsale, The Moldy Peaches, indie rock band Cornershop, and his musical heroes Daniel Johnston and David Berman from the Silver Jews.  As always Sully packs this episode with mostly full length songs, "because songs were made to be listened to from beginning to end and not in little snippets".  Sully references the documentary Dylan: Roads Rapidly Changing, and the book Please Kill Me by Legs McNeil and Gillian McCain in this two part episode as he does in past and future ones.  It is the definitive book in Sully' s opinion, "an essential read for all music enthusiasts".  List of songs in these two episodes:something good, kill the ghoul, anthem, I know what I want, don't play cards with satan,  what went wrong,  downloading porn with davo, sleep on the left side,  avenue a shanghai hollywood, no lsd tonight, I saw a hippie girl on 8th avenue, came here looking, sad screaming old man, mosquito mass-murderist, whistle past the graveyard, cult boyfriend, babe I'm gonna leave you, I shit my pants, new amphetamine shriek, bodies, punk is dead, just like Dresden '45  

Sully talks about punk music not as a genre but as a lifestyle.  A movement toward original thought and creativity fueled by a Do-it-yourself attitude.  At almost 50 years old Sully is extremely candid about his failures and successes as a songwriter, tennis pro, and father of three.  He struggles paycheck to paycheck to make ends meat yet still finds the time to write songs and be creative.  Much in the vein of Andrew Savage's book, EVERY TOOL IS A HAMMER and Mihaly Czikszentmihalyi's pivotal works on FLOW and CREATIVITY, Sully not only looks to inspire but to explore these proposed concepts through listening and discussion and how they pertain to happiness, fulfillment, and purpose.  Using Please Kill Me (the uncensored oral history of punk) by Legs McNeil and Gillian McCain as his bible he reads passages from the book to shed light on the artists and mindsets that got the movement moving.  Ryan Black/Blizzle raises questions about musical fads like EMO with such bands as Dashboard Confessional and The Spill Canvas while Sully provides historical and cultural context for those fads.  Sully and Black, both fans of Jazz, talk about it's influence on other musical art forms.  From jazz great Ornette Coleman's song, Focus on Sanity from his album, The Shape of Jazz to Come to the Swedish hardcore punk band REFUSED's song Liberation Frequency from their album, The Shape of Punk to Come nothing is left off the table.  Black's thoughtful questioning reveals his own curiosity and also shows the respect him and Sully have for music as well as one another.  Much like their songwriting process for Theft To The Gallows and Black's Backbone the give and take between them is obvious and authentic.  List of songs in this episode and songs that almost made this episode:batman theme, scrape away, mr. pharmacist, surfin' bird, night of the phantom, dirty red, we want the airwaves, kung fu girls, horizontal twist, I want to know, growing concern, old new york, rape me, francis farmer will get her revenge on seattle, fake my own death, king of contradiction, ma poubelle, rock and roll, foggy notion, friction, foxhole, turnover, waiting room, one more time, guns on the roof, focus on sanity, the shape of punk to come, liberation frequency, double dare you, magnet, rebel girl, uncle bob, scatter the rats, I am a poseur, oh, bondage! up yours!, typical girls, walkabout

Sully is one of the songwriters and singers for Theft To The Gallows. He believes in living a "punk" lifestyle where a person follows their muse more than their money.  Following his muse he sometimes grabs a camera and will make the show LIVE from my dead mothers TAURUS!   He also helps run and operate REB Records with his songwriting partner Ryan Black (aka Blizzle from Black's Backbone), an independent label that helps artists do cool shit, and The Artist Space, a micro recording studio for podcasting, sound editing and music recording which costs only $10/hr.  The Artist Space is not only where Sully produces What the PUNK?!.  He also lives there.  No joke.