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The Government is planning a massive overhaul of New Zealand's pay equity regime - and the New Zealand Nurses Organisation doesn't approve. The reforms will overhaul a 2020 law establishing a regime to allow people in sectors with a large female workforce to argue that they were underpaid relative to similar work done in male-dominated sectors. NZNO chief executive Paul Goulter says these proposed changes are 'disappointing'. "We've called it shameful - and our members are really upset about this, they've been ringing in all day." LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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A new report from the Nurses Organisation is calling on Te Whatu Ora to support culturally safe staffing ratios. NZ Nurses Organisation Kaiwhakahaere Kerri Nuku spoke to Corin Dann.
Mental health nurses are worried the public, patients and health workers will be put at risk when Police stop attending some mental health callouts. From Monday, Police won't attend ‘low risk callouts' where there is no immediate risk to life and safety. Instead, Health NZ is expected to pick up the work. Leaked documents show only interim standard operating procedures have been developed by Health NZ. Mental Health Section Chair of the New Zealand Nurses Organisation Helen Garrick tells Heather du Plessis-Allan the plan is in its infancy but the industry does not have a sufficient workforce to manage the increase in workload. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
The New Zealand Nurses Organisation says Waikato hospital's English language mandate for nurses in clinical settings reeks of systemic racism. In a statement Director of Operations for Waikato, Michelle Sutherland said speaking English in a clinical environment is standard practice and a requirement from the Nursing Council of New Zealand. This memo was sent out to nursing staff to help reduce confusion and ensure clarity and consistency within patient care, particularly during shift changes. NCNZ recognises English, Te Reo Maori and New Zealand Sign Language as official languages, and these are acceptable in many other contexts, especially when communicating with patients who use these languages. Health NZ strongly encourages bilingualism to support culturally responsive care. We have recruited a significant number of internationally qualified nurses, and we are extremely grateful for the contribution they make to our workforce.
Nurses say they're at breaking point already, and fear cuts to hospital budgets demanded by Health NZ will put their own safety, and that of patients, at risk. This is despite the multi billion dollar injection for health in Thursday's Budget.
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On May 9th the New Zealand Nurses organisation held a National day of action 2024, with rallies across the country calling for increased public health funding. While the government has introduced measures to increase the number of nurses in Aotearoa, staffing shortages are still frequent in wards across the country. Additionally, there are worries that the recently scrapped Te Aka Whai Ora could impact the already struggling sector, taking focus away from those who need health support most and potentially increasing the workload for frontline health workers. Wire host Castor spoke to the president of the New Zealand Nurses Organisation, Anne Daniels, about nursing shortages and low health funding in Aotearoa from a frontline perspective.
The nurses organisation is urging the government to follow in Australia's footsteps and pay students doing mandatory on the job training to combat so called "placement poverty". Nurses Organisation, Kaiwhakahaere Kerri Nuku spoke with Lisa Owen
Earlier this year, Te Whatu Ora estimated that the health system was 4800 nurses short, despite a 23 percent jump in employment. Nurses have been voting for strike action all year- amid frustration with the agency for not addressing concerns around safer staffing practices, nurse-to-patient ratios and health and safety. NZNO members are putting Te Whatu Ora on notice in order to increase funding to the health sector and fix the nursing shortage. Lower Hutt nurse and NZNO delegate Nathan Clarke says Hutt Hospital's Emergency Department is under 'incredible pressure' in current conditions. "The wards are under incredible pressure, and it's really indicative of the issues that not only our hospital, but all the hospitals across the country are facing." LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Today on The Huddle, Tim Wilson from Maxim Institute and Cas Carter from Cas Carter Communications spoke about the following: ASB is threatening to pull its name from the ASB Classic if any Russian or Belarussian players get selected - considering no Russian or Belarussian players have been selected, is this virtue signalling? He Waka Eke Noa- Federated farmers very quick to lash out, Governments come back and said this is basically your proposal- is this a good enough compromise? Northern Districts security guard Carol Shutt says she has escorted 30 children back home in Kaitaia over the last year. Now she makes a point of looking out for them, some have been told to not return home until their parents finish having sex and some parents aren't grateful the kid has been returned. Just 12 nurses have arrived under the residency visa and NZNO says 21,000 are needed. People keep stealing tsunami sirens! But the council are having to tell us that you can't play music out of them for siren wars. All of these topics were discussed today on The Huddle! LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Nurses employed by Te Whatu Ora Health NZ won't be picking up extra shifts this week. The Nurses Organisation made the suggestion last week, as the winter bonus payment of a hundred dollars ended. Whangarei Hospital emergency medicine specialist, Dr Gary Payinda says doctors support what nurses are going through and how hard they work. He hopes they'll get to a resolution that's productive because this can't go on forever. NZNO chief Paul Goulter hopes to negotiate a better way than incentivising nurses to work extra time, taking into account their health and safety. He told Tim Dower Te Whatu Ora Health New Zealand decided to introduce the winter payment system without engaging the union. He says they weren't happy as a programme of additional payments incentivises already fatigued workers to do additional shifts. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
There is concern over what support measures are in place for students covering hospital shifts as the nursing shortage compounds. Dunedin Hospital was so desperate on the weekend, it called in 21 students to help out. A mixture of years 1-3 students, as well as Enrolled Nurse graduates responded, and were paid in Countdown vouchers. NZNO's national representative chairperson Jade Power told Heather du Plessis-Allan they're not against what happened. “It was a desperate move because we are in a crisis and I think we were just worried about the support that was in place for these students. But the students were really positive and they wanted to help.” Students were supervised by a registered nurse. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
The Health Minister has sat down with delegates from the New Zealand Nurses Organisation - weeks after he described it as "not credible". They hand delivered him messages from more that 2700 members, detailing why they believe the health system is at - or even beyond - crisis point. This is after Andrew Little has repeatedly denied that being the case. He spoke to Wilhelmina Shrimpton on Lloyd Burr Live last month, saying "he's not interested in names and labels." In that interview, Little took aim directly at the New Zealand Nurses Organisation itself, saying he doesn't "take much of what the Nurses Organisation says with a great deal of credibility." Speaking on Lloyd Burr Live on Wednesday afternoon, the NZ Nurses Organisation's Wellington delegate Helen Kemp said the NZNO does, in fact, have "very strong credibility."See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Why are we still firing nurses over the Covid jab?We have a shortage of 4000 nurses.We have a report that a woman died in Middlemore emergency department of a brain bleed last Wednesday morning because there was an 8 hour wait to see a doctor.We have surgeries being delayed another month in Wellington hospital because there aren't enough nurses to cope.Palmerston North Hospital is so short staffed it's being described as unsafe.Christchurch Hospital's general team has never cared for so many people at once before. We are paying south Auckland GPs $1400 an hour to take pressure of Middlemore.And we're still standing these nurses down form their work.And by the way, we're not talking about anti-vaxxers. We're talking about nurses who've had two jabs but simply don't want to get a third. So what? About a million Kiwis did exactly the same thing: got two jabs, skipped the third.As I say, we have a shortage of 4000 nurses and we've stood down another 518 for the booster.If you go into hospital tonight with a brain bleed, do you want a nurse? Or do you only want a nurse who's been boosted?If you say you only want a boosted nurse, are you then prepared to take a chance with your life and wait 8 hours so you can see a boosted nurse?What I'm really surprised to hear is that the nurses' union - the NZNO supports this.Their members do not want to work alongside nurses who haven't had the booster.And yet look at how many medical staff haven't had the flu jab: 46 percent.This is so crazy that I can't quite get my head around it: that we would rather delay operations and leave people living in pain without a hip replacement and we would rather make it even harder for our hospitals to cope right now than let nurses stay at work just because they wouldn't get a third jab. Crazy.
The Nurses Union says it has been warning severe staff shortages have affected patient safety at hospitals long before a woman died after leaving Middlemore's Emergency Department because of long wait times. The woman left the hospital in the early hours of Wednesday morning, after being told it would be hours before she could be seen by a doctor. She soon returned and later died in intensive care. Nurses Organisation president Anne Daniels told Morning Report health workers were aware staff shortages could cause a death. Daniels says it has become impossible to keep everyone safe in hospitals.
The New Zealand Nurses' Organisation is calling on Wellington Hospital to postpone elective surgeries because of staff shortages.The Union has today issued a provisional improvement notice to Wellington Hospital management, forcing the hospital to address the problems as a health and safety issue within just eight days.NZNO delegate Sarah Ward works on the cardiology ward there and joined Heather du Plessis-Allan.LISTEN ABOVE
The Nurses Organisation says making Covid-19 vaccinations mandatory for health workers is not straight forward. Covid-19 Response Minister Chris Hipkins asked health officials to consider the idea on Thursday after it was revealed only 75 percent of staff are fully vaccinated. Glenda Alexander of the New Zealand Nurses Organisation said it is about balancing an individual's right to choose and protecting those in their care. She spoke to Jake McKee.
The Nurses Organisation says making Covid-19 vaccinations mandatory for health workers is not straight forward. Covid-19 Response Minister Chris Hipkins asked health officials to consider the idea on Thursday after it was revealed only 75 percent of staff are fully vaccinated. Glenda Alexander of the New Zealand Nurses Organisation said it is about balancing an individual's right to choose and protecting those in their care. She spoke to Jake McKee.
Hundreds of visitors are being allowed to visit Auckland DHB hospitals every day, despite the region being at the highest covid alert level due to the delta outbreak. The Nurses Union says it's absurd that the DHB has the softest visitor policy of any DHB in the country, despite the heightened risk in Auckland. The NZNO has been raising concerns about the inconsistent visitor policies, as well as poor visitor behaviour, including people refusing to wear masks and turning up in groups. Worksafe is now involved and ADHB says it will now be involving health and safety representatives in further decision making. Lynn speaks with Kate Weston, acting nursing and professional services manager for the Nurses Organisation.
The Nurses Organisation says more rigorous screening of patients presenting at hospitals is needed after an exposure event at Middlemore. Four wards are closed, patients are being isolated, and nearly 30 staff have been stood down after a Covid-19 case tested positive after being unknowingly admitted on Saturday. Kate Weston told Morning Report patients seem to be being treated as Covid-negative until proven positive, but the process should be the other way around. "There is Covid in the community, so you've got to expect that Covid is coming through your door." She said having 13 nurses stood down is going to have a huge effect on the hospital. "To have to stand down anybody at all in this environment is actually going to exacerbate an already pre-existing very tight staffing situation."
Four wards are closed at Middlemore hospital in Auckland and nearly 30 staff have been stood down after a Covid-positive patient was unknowingly admitted to a non-Covid ward on Saturday. Health Minister Andrew Little called the Covid-19 exposure a "serious hiccup" on Morning Report. Kate Weston from NZNO said that the breach was very distressing for staff and would worsen already strained nursing numbers. Middlemore Hospital chief medical officer Dr Pete Watson.
New Zealand Nurses Organisation kaiwhakahaere Kerri Nuku says staff shortages in the profession is causing stress right as nurses try to respond to an ongoing Covid-19 outbreak. It comes after a Covid-19 breach at Middlemore Hospital, which Director-General of Health Ashley Bloomfield said has forced hospital is reviewing its procedures. The patient was admitted for symptoms other than Covid-19 tested positive for the virus. He did not show symptoms of the virus when he was admitted, and was not isolated after being tested until the positive result came back. Kerri Nuku spoke to Corin Dann.
The Nurses Organisation says nurses who live with close contacts are being asked to turn up for work at Auckland's DHBs. The union says they're deeply concerned by a Ministry of Health exemption issued last week for essential health workers from the need to fully self-isolate as long as certain conditions are met. The NZNO also says in a survey of some of its members, 60 per cent reported still experiencing issues getting either enough PPE or the right fitting masks. Kerri Nuku, Nurses' Organisation Kaiwhakahaere, tells Kathryn Ryan, nurses are being diverted to delivering vaccines and doing testing, meaning workloads are ever increasing. Kathryn also speaks with Dr Bryan Betty, Medical Director of the College of GPs.
In 2018, nurses, midwives and healthcare assistants went on strike for the first time in 29 years. They won significant concessions from the DHBs, but their ultimate goal of addressing the chronic understaffing was promised and not delivered. At the start of the bargaining there was no campaign, and members of the New Zealand Nurses Organisation, NZNO, built one themselves, against the wishes of their union leadership.We spoke with;Erin, a nurse based in WellingtonGrant Brookes, member elected President of the NZNO @grantbrookesnzGeorgia Choveaux, who started the campaign as an NZNO organiserFollow 1/200 on Twitter (@1of200podcast), host Huw Morgan (@huwcmorgan) or (@blueprintspod)Support 1/200 on Patreon so we can build a left-wing media presence in NZThanks to Masarima and Clone Records for the title musicThanks to Ethan Hunter for his musicPlease leave us a 5* review, it helps other people find the podcast !
The community spread of the Delta variant in Auckland has resulted in nurses immediately calling off their strike. Around 30,000 nurses, midwives and health care assistants from the Nurses Organisation and 1500 midwives from the MERAS union were due to walk off the job tomorrow, after failing to reach agreements over pay and conditions with district health boards. NZNO manager of industrial servicers Glenda Alexander says they remain frustrated with chronic, understaffing, but withdrawing strike action in a national emergency is the right thing to do.
The DHBs are taking nurses to the Employment Court, accusing them of not doing enough to guarantee safe staffing levels during a planned strike this month. Nurses have formally declared they will walk off the job again on August 19, as negotiations to improve patient safety in hospitals fail. The nurses rejected the latest pay offer by the district health boards last week. NZ Nurses Organisation spokesperson Glenda Alexander spoke to Susie Ferguson.
Strikes are back on the table after nurses rejected the latest pay offer from district health boards. About 30,000 nurses walked off the job in huge demonstrations around the country last month. A planned July strike was put on hold to allow negotiations to continue. If the two groups can't agree, the next strike will be 19 August and a second one is organised for 9 September. NZNO lead advocate David Wait spoke to Susie Ferguson.
Strikes are back on the table after nurses rejected the latest pay offer from district health boards. About 30,000 nurses walked off the job in huge demonstrations around the country last month. A planned July strike was put on hold to allow negotiations to continue. If the two groups can't agree, the next strike will be 19 August and a second one is organised for 9 September. NZNO lead advocate David Wait spoke to Susie Ferguson.
Nurses have lifted their strike notices after a revised pay offer from the Government that will now be taken to union members, Health Minister Andrew Little says.Last month 30,000 nurses walked off the job when contract negotiations broke down.The New Zealand Nurses Organisation members had planned three more strikes across July, August and September, but today Little said there had been further progress in discussions with district health boards (DHBs)."It's encouraging that the discussions between NZNO and DHBs over the nurses' employment agreement have resulted in a new offer that will go out to nurses, and that the union has lifted strike notices for July 29 and 30," Little said."Now that DHBs no longer have to spend time preparing to deal with the major disruption a strike would cause we can focus instead on resolving the main issue, which is the nurses' pay-equity claim."Separate to pay negotiations, Little said officials had been putting together a "comprehensive and principled offer" on pay equity."We are a month away from tabling something that means we can address the long-standing historical unfairness that nurses have faced," Little said.Health Minister Andrew Little. Photo / Mark Mitchell"Nurses have been underpaid for years, largely because it's a female-dominated profession."Settling the pay-equity claim means that for the first time, their work will be recognised and valued as much as comparable professions."Labour has a proud track record on these issues and we have already increased nurses' pay by more than 10 per cent in the four years we have been in Government."The offer that was going out to nurses to settle their employment agreement was within the Government's employment relations expectations for the public sector, Little said.
The strikes are off and nurses are set to vote on the government's revised pay offer. After hitting a deadlock in pay talks, nurses had agreed to three strikes over the next few months. But late this afternoon the NZ Nurses Organisation announced the first strike is off and it will take the government's pay offer to members to vote on. Ko Taku manuhiri inaianei ko Glenda Alexander, industrial services manager at NZNO.
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Nurses say they're keen to get back to bargaining and find a solution to their row with their District Health Board employers over pay. Tens of thousands of nurses and supporters took to the streets nationwide yesterday in an eight-hour strike over pay and conditions. NZNO manager of industrial services Glenda Alexander spoke to Susie Ferguson.
Some midwives joined in with the nurses strike today- about 2-hundred midwives are in the nurses union. The majority are in the midwives union Meras, which is supporting the NZNO but can't strike because their pay deal is still under negotiation. The union's industrial co-leader is Jill Ovens.
Thousands of fed up health care workers have drowned out Health Minister Andrew Little with boos as he attempted to address striking nurses outside Parliament this afternoon.From 11am, 30,000 nurses, healthcare assistants and midwives across the country walked off the job for eight hours, demanding better pay and working conditions.(Article continues beneath live blog)The strike comes after the New Zealand Nurses Organisation overwhelmingly rejected a second DHB offer in multi-employer collective agreement (MECA) negotiations.Thousands of nurses and allies walked from Wellington's Civic Square to the Beehive at midday, where they were addressed by several MPs, including Health Minister Andrew Little."You are here because you care. I hear your message and we don't disagree," Little told the crowd.He was received with boos and jeers with one woman yelling "Show us!""We are long overdue for a health system that looks after its workers and looks after its people, and a working environment where people can work safely," Little said.He began to talk about ongoing work with the Nurses' Organisation and CCDE to add more nurses to the workforce, before he was eventually drowned out by booing.Wellington nurse Carla Jordan said she had had every intention of drowning out the Health Minister's address."I can see us striking again, I really can," she said.She was new to nursing and said it was not an appealing industry for young people to join."I've been in for only about a year and a half, and it does nothing but put you off," she said."It's really not encouraging for a young person to join the profession at the moment."Rostering was one of the biggest demands of NZNO, with nurses saying they were struggling under increasing caseloads with limited staff.A paediatric nurse at Wellington hospital, Jeff Osorio said he had been at work until 2.30 last night."We're always understaffed, our patient log is just crazy," he said."It's just the frustration ... we have been talking to the Government and our union is very supportive as well, but it's just not getting anywhere."He was "absolutely" tempted to find work in Australia, where many New Zealand nurses had already migrated for its better pay and working conditions.Wellington nurse Angela Crespin had been working for more than four decades, and it was the first time she had ever walked off the job."I'm into my 43rd year of nursing, I'm coming up for retirement in the next couple of years," she said."This is my first strike in my working life, so it's pretty sad to say that I almost got through."But I nurse with passion, I'm there for the comfort of my patients and I'm prepared to strike to make sure I have the time to look after my patients a hundred per cent."Wellington nurse Kathy Knowles said Wednesday's strike was a culmination of an underfunded health system and nurses being ignore for years."We've been bargaining now for a year and we haven't been listened to for many years," said Knowles, who had been a nurse for 21 years."We haven't received a significant pay increase since 2004, but this is not just about money.""Our working conditions, our staffing and our pay are interwoven, and we can't attract people to the workforce if the government and the DHB continue to pay us poorly."She hoped the strike would make the conditions faced by nurses more visible to the wider public."We're part of that five million and we stood up for you during Covid so please support us at this time."text by Sophie Trigger, NZ Herald
Nurses say they're keen to get back to bargaining and find a solution to their row with their District Health Board employers over pay. Tens of thousands of nurses and supporters took to the streets nationwide yesterday in an eight-hour strike over pay and conditions. NZNO manager of industrial services Glenda Alexander spoke to Susie Ferguson.
A decision on whether nurses will go on strike nationwide on Wednesday will be made this afternoon.Nurses had already confirmed they would stop work in mid-May, which the New Zealand Nurses Organisation (NZNO) union said would have given staff a 1.38 percent wage increase.That led to a last-minute revised pay offer from district health boards (DHBs).The new deal is being voted on by the 30,000 members of the NZNO, with the ballot closing at 1pm.If it is declined, the nurses will strike on Wednesday.Union organisers said a plan had been put in place to ensure life-preserving services would still be staffed.Glenda Alexander from the Nurses Organisation told Tim Dower the payrise they've been offered is less than inflation and some nurses are paid under the living wage."They're pretty frustrated by it all. They just really want to be paid for the value of their work, and they want to get on to a good job, and do that with a good workload as well."Waikato DHB nurses have also refused a formal request to call off the strike, while the DHB still grapples with the effects of a cyber-attack.with tex by RNZ
Tens of thousands of nurses from across the country are set to walk off the job for eight hours next month - "absolutely furious" at Government's three year pay rise freeze.The New Zealand Nurses Organisation (NZNO) union have confirmed 30,000 district health board nurses voted to strike on June 9.Those in Managed Isolation and Quarantine (MIQ) would not strike but those working as a part of the vaccination rollout would. The union says DHBs have been given ample notice to make alternative arrangements for the eight-hour period.David Wait, lead advocate and NZNO industrial advisor, said they did not strike on a whim and cared deeply for their patients but the time has come for a clear statement to be made."If nurses are not valued and appreciated, they will leave nursing or move overseas, and few young people will be joining the profession to replace them."He said union members were angry and frustrated at the first DHB offer received last month which would have seen most members get a 1.38 per cent increase, just under the rate of inflation."This is despite the incredible sacrifices they made in 2020 to keep the country safe from Covid-19."Negotiations between the union and DHBs have been under way since June last year.Wait said members were absolutely furious at the Government's wage restraint announcement that would effectively freeze their wages for three years, as most have already progressed to the last step of their pay scale.Mediation between the union and DHBs was still scheduled for May 18 -19, and Wait said there was still hope of finding a solution to avoid a strike.
DHB nurses will go on strike next month for eight hours. It'll be on the June 9 and NZNO say their members are angry and frustrated at the first DHB pay offer last month.That offer was a 1.38% pay rise.Since then, we've also had the pay freeze announcement that has ruffled more than a few feathers.NZNO's Industrial Advisor David Wait told Heather du Plessis-Allan that there was a strong response in favour for strike action."Even though it is a last resort for us, we are happy our members are united in this."He says that border and MIQ nurses will not be striking as that is right for the country.Wait confirms there is mediation next week, and they are hopeful that the vote will ring some alarm bells. LISTEN ABOVE
A nurses union says the government's decision to freeze public sector pay could push many of their members into voting for strike action. After a meeting with unions, the government says it will now consider cost-of-living increases for public servants and review pay increases before the end of next year. That climbdown may be too late for nurses who have until tomorrow to decide whether months of stalled pay negotiations should result in industrial action. Jordan Bond reports.
A nurses union says the government's decision to freeze public sector pay could push many of their members into voting for strike action. After a meeting with unions, the government says it will now consider cost-of-living increases for public servants and review pay increases before the end of next year. That climbdown may be too late for nurses who have until tomorrow to decide whether months of stalled pay negotiations should result in industrial action. Jordan Bond reports.
Are we about lose more of our nursing workforce to Australia?The Nurses Organisation has rejected another DHB pay offer, saying it fails to recognise the tremendous workload and highly pressurised working conditions nurses endure.Nurses' pay goes up 1.38 percent annually, and their union says the latest pay-offer was little more than that.The NZNO says discussions among the workforce have turned to moving to Australia.Lead advocate and NZNO industrial adviser David Wait told Heather du Plessis-Allan says that the pay needs to be significantly higher to make the job attractive."We've got workforce that is ageing and we have a nursing shortage, and we're not training enough nurses to replace the ones that are retiring, let alone build for the future."He says that the pay rate in Australia can be as much as 20 percent higher than in New Zealand."We know there is a bit of a backlog of people who probably would have gone there anyway but didn't because of Covid."LISTEN ABOVE