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Occasionally funny and periodically informative, Have You Heard features journalist Jennifer Berkshire and scholar Jack Schneider as they explore the age-old quest to finally fix the nation's public schools, one policy issue at a time.

Have You Heard


    • May 29, 2025 LATEST EPISODE
    • every other week NEW EPISODES
    • 36m AVG DURATION
    • 199 EPISODES

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    The Have You Heard podcast is an incredibly insightful and engaging exploration of the world of education. Hosted by Jennifer Berkshire and Jack Schneider, this podcast delves into the complexities of public education, offering a range of perspectives and in-depth analysis. The discussions are thought-provoking and provide valuable insights into the history, politics, and policy surrounding education. Whether you're an educator, a parent, or simply interested in understanding the state of education today, this podcast is a must-listen.

    One of the best aspects of The Have You Heard podcast is the wide range of topics covered. From privatization to culture wars, misconceptions to origins and history, each episode offers detailed insights into key issues driving the educational landscape. The hosts bring on experts and scholars who provide nuanced viewpoints that challenge conventional wisdom. This diversity of perspectives leads to well-rounded discussions that help listeners gain a deeper understanding of the complex issues at hand.

    Another great aspect of this podcast is its accessibility. The hosts have a knack for making complex subjects relatable and understandable for all listeners. They break down concepts and provide historical context that helps illuminate the current state of education in America. This makes it easy for anyone remotely connected to the world of education to engage with and benefit from the discussions.

    While there are many positives about The Have You Heard podcast, one potential downside is its sporadic release schedule. Episodes are released infrequently, which can leave listeners hungry for more content. However, it's important to note that when episodes do come out, they are well worth the wait due to their depth and quality.

    In conclusion, The Have You Heard podcast provides an invaluable resource for anyone interested in understanding public education in America today. With its thoughtful discussions, diverse perspectives, and accessible approach, this podcast stands out as a must-listen for educators, parents, policymakers, and anyone seeking a deeper understanding of our educational system.



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    #199 Dangerous Learning, Dangerous Times

    Play Episode Listen Later May 29, 2025 43:11


    Legal scholar Derek Black is a vocal critic of the Trump administration's anti-DEI crusade, arguing that the effort to impose what he calls ‘loyalty oaths' on schools is blatantly unconstitutional. Black argues that the attacks on public education are at the center of a larger project aimed at undermining the two central pillars of democracy: free speech and due process. The author of a new book, Dangerous Learning: The South's Long War on Black Literacy, Black draws parallels between the lead-up to the Civil War and today's paranoia-fueled efforts to limit what teachers can teach and students can learn. The financial support of listeners like you keeps this podcast going. Subscribe on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/HaveYouHeardPodcast

    #198 Ethnic Studies ‘Works.' Does That Even Matter Anymore?

    Play Episode Listen Later May 13, 2025 46:08


    We're headed to California, where high school students will soon be required to complete an ethnic studies course in order to graduate. The policy has set off the predictable culture war response, with critics charging that ethnic studies is indoctrination, activism, DEI, CRT, etc. But lost in the fog of backlash are the impressive results that ethnic studies has shown for students who struggle in school, including boosting attendance, GPA, and engagement. So what's the problem? It turns out that ethnic studies' inherent activism is precisely why the course is so effective, and why it's such a target these days. The financial support of listeners like you keeps this podcast going. Subscribe on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/HaveYouHeardPodcast

    #197 Taking America Back (to a Less Educated Past)

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 24, 2025 44:02


    The vision of the future on offer from Donald Trump looks a lot like the past, when men were men, women stayed home, and just about everyone was less educated. To get a glimpse of what that future might look like we head to Indiana, one of the great ‘human capital anti-success stories of the 21st century,' according to our guest, economist Michael Hicks. Hicks makes the case that Indiana has pursued a series of disastrous policy choices over the past decade, including slashing spending on K-12 schools and higher education, expanding school choice (while cutting school spending), and preparing kids for the jobs of the past. The financial support of listeners like you keeps this podcast going. Subscribe on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/HaveYouHeardPodcast

    #196 The Best Schools You've Never Heard Of

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 10, 2025 39:05


    The best schools in the country may be run by - wait for it - the Defense Department. But as education researcher Kenneth Wong tells us, the schools' success is a fairly recent development, reflecting a years-long overhaul centered on improving teaching and learning. Alas, the ‘what works' era that would have once sent education experts rushing to the scene in search of the secret sauce is no more. Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth has priortized the crusade against DEI while his boss has ordered him to draw up a plan to voucher-ize the schools. The financial support of listeners like you keeps this podcast going. Subscribe on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/HaveYouHeardPodcast

    #195 Public Education is on the Precipice

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 26, 2025 49:05


    We're headed to Vermont where public schools are confronting a ‘perfect storm' of challenges. Costs are rising in this largely rural state even as the student population is declining, fueling a taxpayer revolt. Meanwhile, thanks to a recent SCOTUS ruling, a tradition of funding private schools with public funds means that Vermont must now pay for religious education. Enter the state's Republican governor with a bold plan to do education in Vermont completely differently. Will public education in the Green Mountain State survive? And how long before schools in your state face a similar precipice? The financial support of listeners like you keeps this podcast going. Subscribe on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/HaveYouHeardPodcast

    #194 Letter to a Trump Voter

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 11, 2025 38:48


    Like just about everyone these days, our own Jack Schneider is troubled–make that frightened–by our political landscape. But however deep our divides may be, there's one issue that can, if not bring us together, allow for at least a conversation. The dismantling of the public education system would be so obviously bad for all of us that maybe, just maybe, a shout from the other side of the partisan divide might actually be heard. In this Letter to a Trump Voter, Jack reminds us of all the important areas of aggreement Americans actually share when it comes to their public schools. "Maybe if we can agree to protect public education we can find other things to agree on." Music for the episode provided by the brilliant Francisco Rafart. Song list: - Caminito del Turia - Always with you - Andes Haze - Magic Concepts Links to music: Spotify https://open.spotify.com/artist/3EIxblOsWLuH54ZRWDuw1m Website https://rafartmusic.com/albums The financial support of listeners like you keeps this podcast going. Subscribe on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/HaveYouHeardPodcast

    #193 All Politics is Local

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 20, 2025 43:22


    Organizing in defense of public education at the local level has never been more vital. And yet in an era when even the most local elections are now nationalized, electing pro-public education candidates can be a heavy lift. In this episode, we hear from a group of parents in Souderton, Pennsylvania who have been slowly ‘moving the needle,' making incremental gains in each election cycle. They're hoping that 2025 will finally be the charm when it comes to convincing local voters to make the school board nonpartisan again. The financial support of listeners like you keeps this podcast going. Subscribe on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/HaveYouHeardPodcast

    #192 There's No Such Thing as a Kinesthetic Learner

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 5, 2025 40:56


    It's common knowledge that every student has a learning style: visual, auditory or kinesthetic. But what if those classifications are not just inaccurate but dangerous? That's the argument made by education historian Tom Fallace in his provocative new book, You Are Not a Kinesthetic Learner: The Troubled History of the Learning Style Idea. Fallace argues that learning styles took hold as teachers were asked to do more and more in response to social and economic divides. Not only is the research behind learning styles flimsy, but as Fallace documents, but the classifications end up lumping together whole racial and ethnic groups as kinesthetic learners. The financial support of listeners like you keeps this podcast going. Subscribe on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/HaveYouHeardPodcast

    #191 These Conservative Texans Oppose School Vouchers

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 22, 2025 50:50


    Vouchers are not conservative. That's what we heard again and again when we talked to Texans who consider themselves Republicans but oppose their party's top education priority. We hear from rural Texans who are taking the attacks on their local schools very personally, and business minded Republicans who fear the consequences of privatizing education for workforce development. But the real lesson in this episode is political. The big money push to expand school vouchers, and expel voucher opponents, is spurring rising discontent within the ranks of the Republican party, including among some of Trump's staunchest supporters. The financial support of listeners like you keeps this podcast going. Subscribe on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/HaveYouHeardPodcast

    #190 Degrees of Separation

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 9, 2025 43:24


    Our biggest political divide these days isn't race or gender but education - and that division is only getting worse. We talk to the co-author of a new book that offers the single best explanation we've come across regarding the role that education is playing in fueling our bitter political battles. David Hopkins, author (with Matthew Grossmann) of Polarized by Degrees: How the Diploma Divide and the Culture War Transformed American Politics, helps us makes sense of a profound shift in American politics, how K-12 teachers and university faculty came to be seen as the enemy by so many on the right, and what we can do about it. The financial support of listeners like you keeps this podcast going. Subscribe on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/HaveYouHeardPodcast

    #189 What's Driving the Republican Party's Radical Shift on Education?

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 19, 2024 39:36


    For decades the Republican mantra on public schools has been to make them ‘business like,' driven by the belief that strong schools = a strong economy. No more. Today's top priorities for the GOP are moving students into private religious schools and home schools, and infusing religion into public schools. How did such a dramatic shift occur? Political scientist Heath Brown, author of Homeschooling the Right, joins us to talk about the transformation of the Republican Party and its implications for education policy. The financial support of listeners like you keeps this podcast going. Subscribe on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/HaveYouHeardPodcast

    #188 What Will a Second Trump Term Mean for Public Education?

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 5, 2024 45:26


    Donald Trump's return to office is likely to have profound implications for the nation's public schools. In this episode we start to grapple with five major policy areas that are likely to be impacted: immigration, school choice, teacher unions, student civil rights and religion. With the aid of experts Sophia Rodriguez, Jon Valant, Mimi Arnold Lyon, Derek Black and Ben Justice, Have You Heard gives you a sense of what to expect and how to prepare for what's coming. The financial support of listeners like you keeps this podcast going. Subscribe on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/HaveYouHeardPodcast

    #187 The Politics of Disruption

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 21, 2024 45:42


    Schools are in for more chaos and conflict, whatever specific policies are enacted by a second Trump Administration. We talk to two scholars about just how much the politics of disruption are costing, in terms of the material costs to school district budgets and the erosion of community trust. The research of Rachel White, co-author of a new study, “The Cost of Conflict,” and Rebecca Jacobsen, co-author of the forthcoming “The Politics of Disruption” is a timely reminder that the consequences of our school wars are all too real. The financial support of listeners like you keeps this podcast going. Subscribe on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/HaveYouHeardPodcast

    #186 What is High School For?

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 30, 2024 44:47


    Massachusetts voters will soon weigh in on whether to abandon the state's de facto high school exit exam. That prospect has pitted elected officials and business leaders against teachers and their union, as well as a majority of voters, who've grown weary of schools' focus on standardized testing. But the contentious debate also reflects a deep (and old) divide over the purpose of high school. We're joined by education historian David Labaree who argues that high schools are not equipped (and never have been) to prepare students for the jobs of the future, and that policymakers and business leaders who insist on that goal have ended up dramatically narrowing the purpose of school. The financial support of listeners like you keeps this podcast going. Subscribe on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/HaveYouHeardPodcast

    #185 Project 1825

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 17, 2024 37:05


    As long as we've had public schools, we've had ‘edu-grifters,' slick salesmen armed with promises to provide education on the cheap. In this episode, we meet one of the OG edu-grifters, one Joseph Lancaster, who arrived on these shores in the 1820's with an irresistible sales pitch: schools that were basically free because, wait for it, the kids taught themselves. Adam Laats, author of the amazing new book, Mr. Lancaster's System, joins us to talk about the American addiction to education ‘silver bullets,' the age-old resistance to investing in other people's kids, and why the vision of school privatization on offer from Betsy DeVos failed the first time around. The financial support of listeners like you keeps this podcast going. Subscribe on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/HaveYouHeardPodcast

    #184 Closing Time

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 30, 2024 45:38


    We head to Fort Collins, CO where a plan to shutter multiple schools and “rightsize” the school district ran into a wall of community opposition. A feel-good tale for our feel-bad times, Fort Collins' example signals, not just resistance to school closures, but to the larger vision of school choice and competition that pits parents against one another, deepening disparities in the process. The financial support of listeners like you keeps this podcast going. Subscribe on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/HaveYouHeardPodcast

    #183 Change of Heart

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 5, 2024 56:16


    When Courtney Gore ran for school board in a deep red Texas county, she pledged to root out indoctrination. But once she got into office, Gore could find no evidence of indoctrination happening in the local schools. She has since disavowed the far-right platform she ran on and now argues that the school culture wars are being ginned up in order to build support for private school vouchers–and a growing number of local Republicans agree with her. Education journalist Karin Chenoweth interviewed Gore on her podcast, Democracy and Education, and gave us permission to share their conversation on Have You Heard. The financial support of listeners like you keeps this podcast going. Subscribe on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/HaveYouHeardPodcast

    #182 Cut, Fire, Close

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 15, 2024 42:42


    From the end of federal COVID relief money to declining enrollment, school districts are in a world of hurt right now. But while the causes for the rising tide of red ink are complex, the recommendations from school finance experts are always the same: cut, fire and close. Our guest, school district finance whisperer David Backer, takes serious issue with these supposed solutions and wants to arm teachers and public school advocates with the tools and knowledge necessary to fight back. The financial support of listeners like you keeps this podcast going. Subscribe on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/HaveYouHeardPodcast

    #181 It Takes a Village (No, Really)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 25, 2024 43:53


    This is a special episode of Have You Heard, and not just because co-host Jack Schneider is MIA. We're paying tribute to Jennifer's dad, Tom Berkshire, a tireless advocate for kids and for fixing the nation's broken foster care system. We're headed to a magical community in western Massachusetts called Treehouse that surrounds foster kids and their adoptive families with love while providing senior citizens with affordable housing. In other words, this is a feel good episode at a time when we could all use a little uplift. Special guest: journalist and educator Nora De La Cour. The financial support of listeners like you keeps this podcast going. Subscribe on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/HaveYouHeardPodcast

    #180 The Education Wars

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 2, 2024 36:40


    To celebrate the release of The Education Wars, we've gathered a cast of thousands to help bring the book to life. Our special guests help us understand what's driving the intense push to privatize schools, what we'll lose when public schools are gone, and how we can fight to protect and transform public education in this country. You'll laugh, you'll cry, you'll be inspired, you'll want to buy the book–and then give it away. Special guests include Erik Anderson, Noliwe Rooks, Derek Gottlieb, Jess Piper, Heather DuBois Bourenane, Letha Muhammed, Nora Flanagan and Johann Neem. Our new book, The Education Wars: A Citizen's Guide and Defense Manual, is now out! You can buy it wherever you buy books. The financial support of listeners like you keeps this podcast going. Subscribe on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/HaveYouHeardPodcast

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    #179 School Integration Made Kids Less Conservative

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 20, 2024 34:26


    Students who lived through court-ordered desegregation in the South grew up to become less conservative, more tolerant adults. That's the finding of provocative research from education scholar Mark Chin, who compared students who attended integrated schools with their peers in the same county who didn't. Mark says his research is a reminder to academics to think bigger than test scores when looking at the impact of education policy. But it also provides us with essential context for understanding today's wave of school privatization in the South: an effort to produce kids who will be more conservative and less tolerant as adults. Our new book, The Education Wars: A Citizen's Guide and Defense Manual, will be out on July 2. You can pre-order it here: https://www.educationwarsbook.com/order The financial support of listeners like you keeps this podcast going. Subscribe on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/HaveYouHeardPodcast

    #178 Turning Down the Temperature

    Play Episode Listen Later May 30, 2024 40:22


    Raise your hand if you think that all of the partisan rancor over public education is bad for kids? That's the premise of Braver Angels, a citizen's group that aims to make America less crazy by getting people talking more and hating each other less. Co-founder Bill Doherty joins us to talk about why our debates over education are so pitched and polarized and what we can do about it. And Jack reminds us that even highly technocratic policy issues can become supercharged in an age of distrust and division. Our new book, The Education Wars: A Citizen's Guide and Defense Manual, will be out on July 2. You can pre-order it here: https://www.educationwarsbook.com/order The financial support of listeners like you keeps this podcast going. Subscribe on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/HaveYouHeardPodcast

    #177 The Opposite of Privatization is Publicization

    Play Episode Listen Later May 16, 2024 40:23


    Market-based education reform may be on the wane, but what's the alternative? Our guest, Jonathan Gyurko, author of the provocative new book Publicization, argues that public education advocates need to rally around a goal of making public schools as public as possible. That means changing the way we think about funding, governance, accountability–indeed, the very purpose of school. If we want to move beyond decades of privatization, says Gyurko, we need a hopeful vision of what schools could be. Our new book, The Education Wars: A Citizen's Guide and Defense Manual, is now availalbe for pre-order: https://www.educationwarsbook.com/order The financial support of listeners like you keeps this podcast going. Subscribe on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/HaveYouHeardPodcast

    #176 The Idaho Exception

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 30, 2024 42:34


    Private school vouchers flamed out in Idaho this legislative session. So how did Idahoans succeed in saying ‘no thanks' to a controversial and expensive policy program that is now on the books in one state after another? We're joined by activists and advocates who say that convincing lawmakers that vouchers aren't conservative was key. And unlike most states, Idaho has an influential business group that is staunchly anti-voucher. Add in lots of organizing and a refusal to let lawmakers enact a sweeping new program behind closed doors and you get the ‘Idaho exception.' The financial support of listeners like you keeps this podcast going. Subscribe on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/HaveYouHeardPodcast Or donate on PayPal: https://www.paypal.me/haveyouheardpodcast

    #175 Special Education is Under Threat

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 9, 2024 49:18


    From huge voucher programs that shift funding to private schools that don't have to accept kids with disabilities to a backlash against funding, special education and the students who rely on it are newly vulnerable. In this powerful episode we hear from parents and advocates in six states about their concerns. And we're reminded that the nation's commitment to educating kids with special needs has always been tenuous. The financial support of listeners like you keeps this podcast going. Subscribe on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/HaveYouHeardPodcast Or donate on PayPal: https://www.paypal.me/haveyouheardpodcast

    #174 Religious Charter Schools are Coming. Be Worried.

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 19, 2024 40:31


    Last year Oklahoma approved the nation's first tax-payer funded religious charter school. It won't be the last, warns Rachel Laser of Americans United for Church and State. We're joined by Laser and two plaintiffs in a legal effort to keep the school from opening. As our guests explain, the school is part of a larger project to roll back the clock on civil rights, disability rights and labor protections. Now for the good news: tearing down the separation between church and state turns out to be really unpopular. The financial support of listeners like you keeps this podcast going. Subscribe on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/HaveYouHeardPodcast Or donate on PayPal: https://www.paypal.me/haveyouheardpodcast

    #173 Did You Hear the One About the Skills Gap?

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 29, 2024 40:39


    For decades we've been told that there is an urgent looming skills gap, and that unless our education system churns out more STEM grads, economic disaster looms. But what if it's not true? In a provocative new book, Neil Kraus argues that this story is at the heart of what he calls the fantasy economy, a wrongheaded view of the labor market that has fueled decades of education reform. And we hear from Tim Schwab, author of an explosive new book about Bill Gates, whose deep pockets have helped to spin the fantasy economy narrative. The financial support of listeners like you keeps this podcast going. Subscribe on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/HaveYouHeardPodcast Or donate on PayPal: https://www.paypal.me/haveyouheardpodcast

    #172 Off of the Sidelines

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 15, 2024 39:08


    In her new book School Moms, education journalist Laura Pappano traces the rise of what she calls the “war moms,” making the case that their emergence has spurred a broad resistance movement in defense of public schools. And reluctant school mom Ashley Daley joins us from Oklahoma, where the state's education chief has emerged as one of the nation's leading culture warriors. The result is a feel good episode with a feel bad caveat. The financial support of listeners like you keeps this podcast going. Subscribe on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/HaveYouHeardPodcast Or donate on PayPal: https://www.paypal.me/haveyouheardpodcast

    #171 The Damage Done

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 1, 2024 45:24


    Public schools are in the throes of multiple slow-moving crises: a teacher exodus, spiking student absenteeism and plunging literacy rates. Yet education reforms implemented as part of the Obama-era ‘theory of change' have received little blame. Special guest Nora De La Cour, a former teacher who writes about education for Jacobin and other publications, says it's long past time for an acknowledgment that test-centric reforms have drained the life from public schools. Such reforms have demoralized teachers and left students feeling like school has no purpose, argues De La Cour, and made public education much harder to defend against the right-wing push for private school vouchers and classical education. The financial support of listeners like you keeps this podcast going. Subscribe on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/HaveYouHeardPodcast or donate on PayPal: https://www.paypal.me/haveyouheardpodcast

    #170 Can We Please Stop Talking About Harvard?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 18, 2024 43:40


    While the media focuses obsessively on Harvard, the state universities that the majority of American students actually attend are under attack. We're joined by faculty at three universities, all reeling from a similar combination of austerity, vocationalizing and the growing right-wing hostility to higher education. What emerges is an old story with a new twist–the latest installment in a raging battle over what college is for, who gets to decide, and who gets to attend. Our all-star cast includes, Jon Shelton, UW Green Bay; Rose Casey, West Virginia University; Audrey Berlowitz, UNC Greensboro; and Will Bunch, author of After the Ivory Tower Falls. The financial support of listeners like you keeps this podcast going. Subscribe on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/HaveYouHeardPodcast or donate on PayPal: https://www.paypal.me/haveyouheardpodcast

    #169 Can the Democrats Win on Education?

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 21, 2023 45:01


    The recent elections issued a stinging rebuke to conservative culture warring candidates. But the Democratic Party has been largely MIA when it comes to articulating its own vision for public education. So what should that vision look like? We invited four experts–Randi Weingarten, Jon Valant, Rick Hess and Jamaal Bowman–to lay out a path forward for Democrats. The financial support of listeners like you keeps this podcast going. Subscribe on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/HaveYouHeardPodcast or donate on PayPal: https://www.paypal.me/haveyouheardpodcast

    #168 Coming to America

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 30, 2023 37:04


    We've been debating how schools should educate and "Americanize" immigrant students for more than a century. In her new book, Making Americans, history teacher Jessica Lander says that schools today are far more welcoming to immigrant-origin students than in the past. But even as star educators like Jessica, Carlos Beato, who co-founded a high school for immigrant students in Maryland, and Leah Juelke, the 2017 North Dakota Teacher of the Year, show us what truly welcoming schools and teaching look like, the rising tide of anti-immigrant rhetoric threatens their efforts, as well as the students they advocate for. The financial support of listeners like you keeps this podcast going. Subscribe on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/HaveYouHeardPodcast or donate on PayPal: https://www.paypal.me/haveyouheardpodcast

    #167 Public Education Needs More Democracy, Not Less

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 16, 2023 37:01


    Everybody loves to hate on school boards these days. But as education policy scholar Jonathan Collins reminds us, these beleaguered bodies are actually the most accessible entry points to democracy that we have. At a time when calls to make school oversight less democratic are coming from the right and education reformers, Collins makes an urgent case for using participatory local democracy to collectively solve our most pressing problems. The financial support of listeners like you keeps this podcast going. Subscribe on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/HaveYouHeardPodcast or donate on PayPal: https://www.paypal.me/haveyouheardpodcast

    #166 The School Voucher Scam

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 2, 2023 42:54


    We hand the mic to the brilliant podcasters behind the Voucher Scam, a limited series exposing the big money push to bring school vouchers to Texas and beyond. Claire Campos-O'Neal and Nicole Abshire of the Mothers for Democracy Institute visit a rural community where the elected representative is no longer, well, representing. Claire and Nicole do a masterful job connecting school privatization with the rise of Christian Nationalism and the erosion of democracy. We hope you appreciate their brilliant work as much as we did. The financial support of listeners like you keeps this podcast going. Subscribe on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/HaveYouHeardPodcast or donate on PayPal: https://www.paypal.me/haveyouheardpodcast

    #165 The Politics of State Takeovers

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 19, 2023 38:54


    Have You Heard heads to Houston, where the state now controls Texas' largest school district. We'll meet teachers and parents who say the takeover of the schools in this Democratic city is fundamentally about politics. And we'll try to make sense of how the takeover fits into the efforts by Governor Greg Abbott to bring private school vouchers to the Lone Star state. Spoiler: it does.

    #164 Plutocratic Philanthropists are Bad for Schools–and Democracy

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 5, 2023 35:40


    The power of plutocrats to shape and limit public debate is on the increase. That's bad for K-12 education and for democracy, argues Nora Reikosky, the winner of the 2023 Have You Heard Graduate Student Research Contest. As a young “Googler,” Nora witnessed first hand the power of corporate philanthropy and its slick sales pitch, an experience that shapes her research into what she calls “pipeline philanthropy.” The financial support of listeners like you keeps this podcast going. Subscribe on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/HaveYouHeardPodcast or donate on PayPal: https://www.paypal.me/haveyouheardpodcast

    #163 How to Get Ahead in School Without Really Learning

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 21, 2023 40:36


    Get the right credentials to get ahead in the world. For many students and their families that IS the purpose of K-12 education. Even students who don't have their sights set on selective colleges often see learning as secondary to the work of collecting badges and tokens. How did we get here? Why do grades and test scores exert such a powerful influence over our schools? In this episode, we talk with Jack's co-author Ethan Hutt about their new book Off the Mark: How Grades, Ratings, and Rankings Undermine Learning (But Don't Have To). The financial support of listeners like you keeps this podcast going. Subscribe on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/HaveYouHeardPodcast or donate on PayPal: https://www.paypal.me/haveyouheardpodcast

    #162 State of Emergency

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 29, 2023 49:45


    North Carolina Governor Roy Cooper recently declared a state of emergency for public schools in that state, warning that the GOP-controlled legislature aims to “choke the life out of public education.” Our guests, a cast of thousands, argue that the attack on public schools is part of a right-wing takeover, one that seeks to take the state back to the pre-civil rights era. But this state of emergency also represents an organizing opportunity, say public education advocates. While the word “bleak” appears multiple times in this episode, it ends on a note of hope and optimism. The financial support of listeners like you keeps this podcast going. Subscribe on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/HaveYouHeardPodcast or donate on PayPal: https://www.paypal.me/haveyouheardpodcast

    #161 AI Is Going to Upend Public Education. Or Maybe Not

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 8, 2023 45:45


    AI is about to upend teaching and learning. So tell us the techno optimists who have made essentially the same claim about every technological innovation, dating back to the film strip. Our guest, historian Larry Cuban, predicts that AI will join a long list of tech ‘silver bullets' that have been overhyped, only to fall short of the promised utopia. Cuban argues that tech boosters are prone to such overselling because they don't understand the nature of teaching and its reliance on human connection. The financial support of listeners like you keeps this podcast going. Subscribe on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/HaveYouHeardPodcast or donate on PayPal: https://www.paypal.me/haveyouheardpodcast

    #160 There's No Way to Win the School Culture Wars

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 18, 2023 38:58


    A wide segment of Americans now view public schools as partisan. That's a major problem, argues historian Johann Neem, because the project of public education depends on ALL Americans seeing themselves and their interests represented there. Neem warns that the perception that schools are carrying out a political agenda is super-charging the privatization agenda and could undermine what's left of our “common” schools entirely. The financial support of listeners like you keeps this podcast going. Subscribe on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/HaveYouHeardPodcast or donate on PayPal: https://www.paypal.me/haveyouheardpodcast

    #159 The John Birch Society was the Original Moms for Liberty

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 22, 2023 40:56


    Decades before Moms for Liberty launched a crusade to liberate schools from “indoctrination,” the John Birch Society introduced similar rhetoric and tactics. Have You Heard is joined by historian Matthew Dallek, author of Birchers: How the John Birch Society Radicalized the American Right. The ‘Birchers,' he argues, sought to impose their vision of morality, Christianity and patriotism on public schools. And while the group would fade into obscurity, the Birchers' vision and tactics inform the activism of today's school culture warriors. The financial support of listeners like you keeps this podcast going. Subscribe on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/HaveYouHeardPodcast or donate on PayPal: https://www.paypal.me/haveyouheardpodcast

    #158 If We Want to Save Public Education, We've Got to Talk About It Differently

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 8, 2023 37:25


    For decades, the idea that education is the primary driver of economic opportunity has held sway. The education myth, as our guest Jon Shelton describes it, has attained the status of common sense, captivating politicians from left to right. But the overselling of education as the fix for economic inequality has been politically disastrous, not to mention bad for schools and teachers. Shelton argues that we desperately need a new way to talk about education, one that puts schools in a larger context of social democracy and economic security. The financial support of listeners like you keeps this podcast going. Subscribe on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/HaveYouHeardPodcast or donate on PayPal: https://www.paypal.me/haveyouheardpodcast

    #157 Stopping the Privatization Train

    Play Episode Listen Later May 24, 2023 51:32


    School privatization has been on a roll this year. But then the ‘fund students not systems' express hit a wall in states like Kansas, Georgia and Idaho. So what happened? We talk to public education advocates in all three states and come away with some lessons in effective organizing, not to mention a much-needed dose of inspiration. The financial support of listeners like you keeps this podcast going. Subscribe on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/HaveYouHeardPodcast or donate on PayPal: https://www.paypal.me/haveyouheardpodcast

    #156 Digging Deep into the Education Wars

    Play Episode Listen Later May 4, 2023 101:55


    Jack and Jennifer sit down with Daniel Denvir, host of the Dig podcast. And ‘dig' is an accurate description. They go deep into origins of our current education wars, how bipartisan teacher bashing laid the groundwork for today's attacks on “woke” educators, and what the recent victory of Brandon Johnson in Chicago can tell us about the state of the education reform movement. The financial support of listeners like you keeps this podcast going. Subscribe on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/HaveYouHeardPodcast or donate on PayPal: https://www.paypal.me/haveyouheardpodcast

    #155 Teachers Speak Out

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 20, 2023 51:24


    We're joined by four former teachers of the year who are using their ‘teacher voices' to push back against the tidal wave of legislation limiting what kids can learn and teachers can talk about. They're speaking truth about kids, public schools, and teachers and hoping to inspire others to do the same. Special guests: Tracey Nance, Monica Washington, Chris Dier and Jena Nelson. The financial support of listeners like you keeps this podcast going. Subscribe on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/HaveYouHeardPodcast or donate on PayPal: https://www.paypal.me/haveyouheardpodcast

    #154 High Stakes

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 6, 2023 36:50


    Just eight states still require high school students to pass an exit exam in order to graduate. So why did a policy that once commanded bipartisan support fall by the wayside? And what accounts for the seeming paradox that the public turned against high-stakes tests for students while continuing to support high-stakes tests for schools? Special guests Ethan Hutt and Katie McDermott help guide us through the complex and ever-evolving world of high-stakes testing. The financial support of listeners like you keeps this podcast going. Subscribe on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/HaveYouHeardPodcast or donate on PayPal: https://www.paypal.me/haveyouheardpodcast

    #153 The Assault on Public Education is Escalating

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 23, 2023 72:49


    If it feels like the assault on public education is escalating, that's because it is. Jennifer joins historian Thomas Zimmer, host of the ‘Is this Democracy?' podcast, to dive deep into the question of why the right is so focused on public schools right now. Zimmer, an historian at Georgetown University, argues that the push to dismantle public education and limit what teachers can teach and kids can learn is part of a broader effort to roll back the civil rights gains that have been made since the 1960's. The financial support of listeners like you keeps this podcast going. Subscribe on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/HaveYouHeardPodcast or donate on PayPal: https://www.paypal.me/haveyouheardpodcast

    #152 The Reading Wars Are Older Than You Think

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 7, 2023 48:03


    Two decades ago, phonics fever swept the land as George W. Bush made “scientifically-based reading instruction” a centerpiece of his education agenda. But despite its scale and huge price tag, Bush's Reading First initiative has largely been forgotten. Have You Heard revisits the Bush-led effort to transform reading instruction, learning a familiar lesson along the way: history can't teach us anything if no one remembers it. The financial support of listeners like you keeps this podcast going. Subscribe on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/HaveYouHeardPodcast or donate on PayPal: https://www.paypal.me/haveyouheardpodcast

    #151 Divide, Scatter, Conquer

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 16, 2023 45:05


    What does it feel like to be on the receiving end of a conservative plan to ‘take back the schools'? Have You Heard heads to Woodland Park, Colorado to talk to students, parents and teachers about how top-down culture war is rapidly - and radically - reshaping local schools. Note: this episode misstated the status of teacher Sara Lee. She has not left the district but is on medical leave due to negative health impacts caused by the actions of the BoE and Interim Superintendent. We regret the error. The financial support of listeners like you keeps this podcast going. Subscribe on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/HaveYouHeardPodcast or donate on PayPal: https://www.paypal.me/haveyouheardpodcast

    #150 U-Turn: Charter Schools Go Private

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 2, 2023 38:49


    Are charter schools public or private? A case speeding towards the Supreme Court is likely to settle this age-old dispute once and for all by declaring charters as “non-state actors.” Peltier vs. Charter Day School Inc. is nominally about dress codes, chivalry and “fragile vessels.” But as special guests Bruce Baker and Preston Green explain, the real question here is whether students attending charter schools have the same civil rights and Constitutional protections as their public school peers. Among our most alarming episodes to date… The financial support of listeners like you keeps this podcast going. Subscribe on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/HaveYouHeardPodcast or donate on PayPal: https://www.paypal.me/haveyouheardpodcast

    #149 The Rise and Fall of the Teaching Profession

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 19, 2023 44:41


    The teaching profession is in the worst shape of the past 50 years. That's according to researchers Melissa Arnold Lyon and Matthew Kraft, who crunched a half century's worth of data on indicators like whether students want to go into teaching, the prestige of teachers, and the job satisfaction of teachers themselves. What emerged were some striking historical patterns and a clear warning about the state of the teaching profession. The financial support of listeners like you keeps this podcast going. Subscribe on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/HaveYouHeardPodcast or donate on PayPal: https://www.paypal.me/haveyouheardpodcast

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