Love & The Outcome Podcast

Hey, it's Jodi here! I'm so excited to share with you some of the new parts of my book, “You Got This - A Guide To Living A Full Life In The Midst Of Suffering.” I originally released my book during COVID, and then our house flooded. Our family went through a lot of difficult things, so eventually I decided it was time to share some of the stories, songs, and scripture verses that helped me get through it all. If you or someone you know is going through a difficult time where they feel like they've done everything right and life has still gone wrong, this episode is for you. I'm not promising a neat and tidy bow on the end of everything I say, but hopefully a way through to still show up for your life when everything falls apart. Thanks for listening, hope you enjoy this episode based off of the new You Got This 2023 Edition. Listen to HUMAN here: https://loveandtheoutcome.lnk.to/Human Buy You Got This book: https://www.iamjodiking.shop PS - If you are subscribed to our PATREON you will receive access to all our episodes a week early!  Never heard of it?  It's the ultimate L&TO insiders' subscription, a chance to get unreleased songs, conversations, and devotionals delivered to you personally every month!  We will even do a Worship Wednesday exclusive just for Patreon members and pray for you all individually.  We are excited about going deeper with you, and we hope you'll join us!  Check out www.patreon.com/loveandtheoutcome

It's been a minute since we released a podcast, but we have a new song out called HUMAN, and we wanted to share how it came to be.  God is good, life is hard.  It's not one or the other.  The fact that two things can be true at the same time has held us together over the past few years.  This song encompasses the story of our house flood, how we survived and made it through to the other side.  Although it may sound like a depressing episode, we promise you will feel seen love and uplifted!  Hope you enjoy this conversation.  Listen to HUMAN here: https://loveandtheoutcome.lnk.to/Human PS - If you are subscribed to our PATREON you will receive access to all our episodes a week early!  Never heard of it?  It's the ultimate L&TO insiders' subscription, a chance to get unreleased songs, conversations, and devotionals delivered to you personally every month!  We will even do a Worship Wednesday exclusive just for Patreon members and pray for you all individually.  We are excited about going deeper with you, and we hope you'll join us!  Check out www.patreon.com/loveandtheoutcome

Really excited to share my conversation with Leslie Trovato with you, friends!  She is a writer and a mama, loved thru divorce & breast cancer & COVID over the past two years, so she has a lot of content!  We chatted about how to let go of expectations around the holidays, and what Emmanuel, God with us, actually means.  Hope you enjoy it, let us know! Love, Jodi, Chris, Milo & Ziggy PS - If you are subscribed to our PATREON you will receive access to all our episodes a week early!  Never heard of it?  It's the ultimate L&TO insiders' subscription, a chance to get unreleased songs, conversations, and devotionals delivered to you personally every month!  We will even do a Worship Wednesday exclusive just for Patreon members and pray for you all individually.  We are excited about going deeper with you, and we hope you'll join us!  Check out www.patreon.com/loveandtheoutcome PPS - if you've been looking for a way to participate in being light in the world during this COVID season, check out www.lovehealinghugs.com and sponsor a life-changing surgery for a child who desperately needs one!  For one dollar a day for a year, you can send a Healing Hug to a little one whose family can't afford to pay for the surgery.  As God continues to provide for you, why not help provide for someone less fortunate than yourself.  Love you all, thanks for being so generous!!

Thanks for sending in your questions for Dr. Russell Moore!  They were SO good that we decided to dedicate an entire episode to his answers!  Hope you enjoy part 2 of our conversation with @russellmoore Love, Jodi, Chris, Milo & Ziggy PS - If you are subscribed to our PATREON you will receive access to all our episodes a week early!  Never heard of it?  It's the ultimate L&TO insiders' subscription, a chance to get unreleased songs, conversations, and devotionals delivered to you personally every month!  We will even do a Worship Wednesday exclusive just for Patreon members and pray for you all individually.  We are excited about going deeper with you, and we hope you'll join us!  Check out www.patreon.com/loveandtheoutcome PPS - if you've been looking for a way to participate in being light in the world during this COVID season, check out www.lovehealinghugs.com and sponsor a life-changing surgery for a child who desperately needs one!  For one dollar a day for a year, you can send a Healing Hug to a little one whose family can't afford to pay for the surgery.  As God continues to provide for you, why not help provide for someone less fortunate than yourself.  Love you all, thanks for being so generous!!  

Have you ever found yourself in a conversation these days wondering, “am I crazy?”  Or, “how do I have conversations with friends & family with whom I disagree politically?”  We asked Dr. Russell Moore these questions as well as what it means to be an evangelical Christian in a post-truth world.  Will civility ever be restored?  Dr. Moore is the former head of Ethics and Religion for the Southern Baptist Convention (and he tells us why he left), and is now a public theologian for Christianity Today.  We had to break up the conversation into two parts because it was all so good that we couldn't cut it down to a one hour episode.  We don't come from the same place or see all things the same way, which was what made this conversation so special.  Hope you enjoy Part 1 of our conversation with @russellmoore Love, Jodi, Chris, Milo & Ziggy PS - If you are subscribed to our PATREON you will receive access to all our episodes a week early!  Never heard of it?  It's the ultimate L&TO insiders' subscription, a chance to get unreleased songs, conversations, and devotionals delivered to you personally every month!  We will even do a Worship Wednesday exclusive just for Patreon members and pray for you all individually.  We are excited about going deeper with you, and we hope you'll join us!  Check out www.patreon.com/loveandtheoutcome PPS - if you've been looking for a way to participate in being light in the world during this COVID season, check out www.lovehealinghugs.com and sponsor a life-changing surgery for a child who desperately needs one!  For one dollar a day for a year, you can send a Healing Hug to a little one whose family can't afford to pay for the surgery.  As God continues to provide for you, why not help provide for someone less fortunate than yourself.  Love you all, thanks for being so generous!!

The pandemic has taken alot from all of us.  One thing we are just barely recovering is our ability to see possibility, and to dream again. Dan Bremnes - musician, family man, risk-taker, dreamer - reminds us that we need to listen to our crazy ideas because they just might unlock our next step to a life lived, not just tolerated. Dan shares the story behind his new single “Run Away With Me,” https://open.spotify.com/track/1l6gBfmaoPBcRhuZbslIpb?si=kQlrSfPuRb2wJngAhniU5Q which is a real-life example of what can happen we we go after the crazy ideas in our head that we generally disregard as too “out there.”  Hint - it involves a deserted island and an email :) And it's a great song:)  We hope this episode inspires you to walk towards your next step! Love, Jodi, Chris, Milo & Ziggy PS - if you've been looking for a way to participate in being light in the world during this COVID season, check out www.lovehealinghugs.com and sponsor a life-changing surgery for a child who desperately needs one!  For one dollar a day for a year, you can send a Healing Hug to a little one whose family can't afford to pay for the surgery.  As God continues to provide for you, why not help provide for someone less fortunate than yourself.  Love you all, thanks for being so generous!!   PPS - If you are subscribed to our PATREON you will receive access to all our episodes a week early!  Never heard of it?  It's the ultimate L&TO insiders' subscription, a chance to get unreleased songs, conversations, and devotionals delivered to you personally every month!  We will even do a Worship Wednesday exclusive just for Patreon members and pray for you all individually.  We are excited about going deeper with you, and we hope you'll join us!  Check out www.patreon.com/loveandtheoutcome

Welcome back to the podcast!  We took a break this summer after our house flooded, thinking we'd start it back up when we were back in, but alas we are still waiting…   The good news is we have a lot to share from this displaced transition season, so we thought we'd embrace it with “Conversations in the Car with Chris and Jodi.”  A little series within the podcast where we literally press record and let you into our chats on the road, and edit nothing (sorry for the road noise)!  Jodi and I both just read “The Bible Tells Me So” by Peter Enns, and it's helped us feel ok with our questions about the Bible.  Whether it be genocide in the Old Testament, and wrestling with the commandment, “thou shalt not kill,” while God seems to order the killing of women & children & entire people groups, or all the Levitical laws that don't seem to apply anymore, there's a lot that makes us uncomfortable.  It hit us while we were reading Bible stories to our kids, that there is a lot that is too R-rated for them to handle.  It left us with a lot of questions, and in case you are in the same boat, we wanted to give you permission to journey with us.  This episode provides more process and questions than answers, but there will be follow up episodes where we dig deeper into these questions.  Wanted to be honest about the where we're at, so come along for the ride!   Here's a link to Peter's store if you'd like to check it out! https://peteenns.com/store/   Sending love,   Chris, Jodi, Milo & Ziggy      PS - if you've been looking for a way to participate in being light in the world during this COVID season, check out www.lovehealinghugs.com and sponsor a life-changing surgery for a child who desperately needs one!  For one dollar a day for a year, you can send a Healing Hug to a little one whose family can't afford to pay for the surgery.  As God continues to provide for you, why not help provide for someone less fortunate than yourself.  Love you all, thanks for being so generous!!     PPS - If you are subscribed to our PATREON you will receive access to all our episodes a week early!  Never heard of it?  It's the ultimate L&TO insiders' subscription, a chance to get unreleased songs, conversations, and devotionals delivered to you personally every month!  We will even do a Worship Wednesday exclusive just for Patreon members and pray for you all individually.  We are excited about going deeper with you, and we hope you'll join us!  Check out www.patreon.com/loveandtheoutcome

We are so excited for you to join our conversation on anxiety with the one and only Sissy Goff!  She is an expert child and adolescent counselor at Daystar Ministries here in Nashville, as well as an author and equipper.  She has helped our family so much amidst our flood trauma during COVID.  Here's the thing - everything she says doesn't just work for kids, but also applies to adults!  So whether you're an adult, parent, or teen, this episode on how to stop the hamster wheel of fear and anxiety is for you.  We can find Jesus' peace in the midst of trauma, and we hope this episode gives you the tools to find it!  You can find her here @sissygoff @raisingboysandgirls and listen to her podcast here https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/raising-boys-girls/id1366344369 Sending love, Chris, Jodi, Milo & Ziggy  PS - if you've been looking for a way to participate in being light in the world during this COVID season, check out www.lovehealinghugs.com and sponsor a life-changing surgery for a child who desperately needs one!  For one dollar a day for a year, you can send a Healing Hug to a little one whose family can't afford to pay for the surgery.  As God continues to provide for you, why not help provide for someone less fortunate than yourself.  Love you all, thanks for being so generous!!   PPS - If you are subscribed to our PATREON you will receive access to all our episodes a week early!  Never heard of it?  It's the ultimate L&TO insiders' subscription, a chance to get unreleased songs, conversations, and devotionals delivered to you personally every month!  We will even do a Worship Wednesday exclusive just for Patreon members and pray for you all individually.  We are excited about going deeper with you, and we hope you'll join us!  Check out www.patreon.com/loveandtheoutcome

I’m not sure about you, but wilderness seasons are never something I pray for. It’s just not that much fun being in a season where you lack clarity & purpose, and when you don’t know what’s next. But here’s the good news: Jesus and John the Baptist wandered in the wilderness, so it can’t be all bad! There has to be a deeper purpose to it, and a way to wander well even on our worst days. This realization has helped me so much in a season full of “I don’t know.” Living as wanderers during this flooded-house chapter of life is teaching me a lot, and I wanted to pass along some practical steps that help me show up to my life and keep going even on my worst day. A few of the steps I talk about are: identify what helps you feel put together; tell yourself, “this is hard and that’s ok. I’m normal for finding this hard;” decide who is welcome to wander with you, and lean into God’s surprises and provision. Your worth is not determined by how well your life is going! You are worthy and loved and welcome to be in your wilderness season. Hope this helps you as you wander… P.S. - We wanted to share a quick update about our house. We have felt so supported by all of you and are blown away by your generosity. We’ve decided to elevate our house eight feet and make it flood-proof. This is an expensive endeavor but it will allow us to move back in and sleep at night. The total cost will be approximately $60,000 (including new foundation, elevating, engineer, surveyor, contractor, etc). Any gift is appreciated, we literally couldn’t do this without you. You have been our lifeline. Thanks so much

Jasmine Murray is the kind of influencer you want to follow.  American Idol top-13 finalist, Miss Mississippi and top 10 Miss America, she’s had to deal with how to be her authentic self while still stepping on stage and trying to impress.  Not scared to admit when she can barely get out of bed, or how good it feels to have pushed through a workout she didn’t feel like doing.  Honest about her anxiety and depression, as well as her love for fashion, she lives it all with Christ at the center.  We had a good ol’ girl chat about all the things!  Hope you enjoy this conversation with singer/influencer/powerhouse woman, Jasmine Murray!  Follow her @jasminemurrayofficial  P.S. - We wanted to share a quick update about our house.  We have felt so supported by all of you and are blown away by your generosity. We’ve decided to elevate our house eight feet and make it flood-proof. This is an expensive endeavor but it will allow us to move back in and sleep at night. The total cost will be approximately $60,000 (including new foundation, elevating, engineer, surveyor, contractor, etc). Any gift is appreciated, we literally couldn’t do this without you. You have been our lifeline. Thanks so much

It hit me while we were jumping on the trampoline in the backyard of our broken house, and then out of the blue while I was making pizza in my friends kitchen, missing my own. We don’t like to give ourselves space to grieve. We like it to happen on a certain day in a certain way, so we can control it and look “strong”. But the truth is, the happiest moments are often when the sadness hits out of nowhere. Maybe you’re in a grieving season, and you feel the need to be strong and get through. Giving yourself permission to grieve IS strong. So I'm giving myself and giving you permission to grieve in your own way, day to day, however it shows up. Like my friend Jenny said to me on the phone, “it takes energy to push it down and it takes energy to feel it, so either way it’s gonna suck! Thanks for your honest words friend. I needed to hear them. Maybe you do too. P.S. - We wanted to share a quick update about our house. It’s been a hard two weeks of grieving and dealing with big decisions about our house. We have felt so supported by all of you and are blown away by your generosity. We’ve decided to elevate our house eight feet and make it flood proof. This is an expensive endeavor but it will allow us to move back in and sleep at night. The total cost will be approximately $60,000 (including new foundation, elevating, engineer, surveyor, contractor, etc). Any gift is appreciated, we literally couldn’t do this without you. You have been our lifeline. Thanks so much

Hi Friends! For this week’s podcast we wanted to bring you something a little different.  We turned a green room conversation with our good friend Pastor Jeremy Louison into a behind-the-scenes podcast!  We had the chance to tell our love story, how Love & The Outcome started, how we’ve remained individuals within a marriage where we work together… and a lot more!  We hope this episode gives you a glimpse into our story, and also helps to illuminate the path you’re on as well.  We are all on a journey, and we’re so glad ours has intersected with yours.  Sending love friends, enjoy this week’s “Behind the Scenes” episode! PS - It’s spring here in Tennessee so we planted a garden and it brought us so much joy!  We have no idea what we’re doing but fingers crossed something pops up!  Are you a gardener?  Send us your gardening tips at loveandtheoutcomepodcast@gmail.com and we’ll share a few on the next podcast episode! PPS - If you are subscribed to our PATREON you will receive access to all our episodes a week early!  Never heard of it?  It's the ultimate L&TO insiders’ subscription, a chance to get unreleased songs, conversations, and devotionals delivered to you personally every month!  We will even do a Worship Wednesday exclusive just for Patreon members and pray for you all individually.  We are excited about going deeper with you, and we hope you’ll join us!  Check out www.patreon.com/loveandtheoutcome PPPS - if you’ve been looking for a way to participate in being light in the world during this COVID season, check out www.lovehealinghugs.com and sponsor a life-changing surgery for a child who desperately needs one!  For one dollar a day for a year, you can send a Healing Hug to a little one whose family can’t afford to pay for the surgery.  As God continues to provide for you, why not help provide for someone less fortunate than yourself.  Love you all, thanks for being so generous!!   Love,  Jodi, Chris, Milo & Ziggy

We found Rich Villodas and his church, New Life Fellowship, online the Sunday after the Capitol insurrection.  We were confused and wrestling with the church’s response or lack thereof, to this evil act.  Rich’s sermon that Sunday assured us that there is no way to separate justice and mercy from the gospel, and that becoming a Christian means we have to deal with our stuff, not just pass it off to the Lord and peace out. Rich’s new book, “The Deeply Formed Life” gives us five transformative values to help us live rooted in these crazy times.  “God is not interested in transforming some parts of us and leaving the rest untouched.  He is not interested in separating our lives into sacred and not sacred categories, or reducing our faith to a personal decision that merely punches a ticket to heaven.”  We’re not sure if we’ve ever read a book that married internal growth and the gospel so well.  If this resonates with you, and you’ve been looking for permission to rethink what living a gospel life actually looks like, this podcast episode will both encourage you and rock your world. Get your pens out! Here’s the link to Rich’ book: https://www.richvillodas.com/ Thanks for digging in with us, hope you enjoy this episode!  If you do, subscribe and share it with a friend :) PS - If you are subscribed to our PATREON you will receive access to all our episodes a week early!  Never heard of it?  It's the ultimate L&TO insiders’ subscription, a chance to get unreleased songs, conversations, and devotionals delivered to you personally every month!  We will even do a Worship Wednesday exclusive just for Patreon members and pray for you all individually.  We are excited about going deeper with you, and we hope you’ll join us!  Check out www.patreon.com/loveandtheoutcome PPS - if you’ve been looking for a way to participate in being light in the world during this COVID season, check out www.lovehealinghugs.com and sponsor a life-changing surgery for a child who desperately needs one!  For one dollar a day for a year, you can send a Healing Hug to a little one whose family can’t afford to pay for the surgery.  As God continues to provide for you, why not help provide for someone less fortunate than yourself.  Love you all, thanks for being so generous!!   Chris, Jodi, Milo & Ziggy

Hi friends!   Have you ever felt like your worth is tied to your career and talents?  On this week’s podcast episode, Chris & I sat down with the one & only Rebecca St. James!  She reminds us that “our worth and value come from who we are, not what we do.”  Phew, don’t know about you, but we needed this reminder after not touring for the past year!   We were both a little star-struck sitting down with someone who has won both Grammy AND Dove awards, has ten albums, and too many number 1 songs to count!  Rebecca’s concert in Winnipeg was the first ticket Jodi spent her own money on, and her music and career have been a huge inspiration for both of us.   Rebecca shares about being in the spotlight from the age of thirteen, the anxiety & identity issues that come along with that, and how she continues rise above it.  Now a wife and mother of three, she opens up about how they decide as a family when to say no, so they can give their yes to what God is calling them to.  If you need some honest, encouraging conversation in your ears this week, let this Australian American share her life lessons with you. We know you’re gonna get so much out of this episode!   Be sure to check out Rebecca’s new music at https://heritagemusicgroup.lnk.to/dawnWE    And her new podcast at https://www.accessmore.com/pd/Rebecca-St-James-Friends-and-Family    PS - If you are subscribed to our PATREON you will receive access to all our episodes a week early!  Never heard of it?  It's the ultimate L&TO insiders’ subscription, a chance to get unreleased songs, conversations, and devotionals delivered to you personally every month!  We will even do a Worship Wednesday exclusive just for Patreon members and pray for you all individually.  We are excited about going deeper with you, and we hope you’ll join us!  Check out www.patreon.com/loveandtheoutcome

Hi Friends, It’s so easy to write people off, isn’t it?  When they don’t see things the way we do, vote the way we do, belong to the same group we do… But here’s the thing:  it's in the sharing of our stories, leaning in to listen and learn, NOT winning someone over to our side, that we grow!  When we posted about the insurrection at the Capitol and the inauguration, we watched as our social media number plummeted.  All of a sudden people assumed so much about who we are and what we believe.  At first we wondered if we did something wrong… but it led to beautiful, complicated conversations that we would never have had otherwise!   So this week’s podcast episode asks & attempts to answer this question: how do we not care what people think, but still care about people?  Wow - that’s tough, isn’t it?  To show up and share your perspective in love, AND leave space for others to do the same is not easy, but it’s necessary.  We are equal parts nervous & excited about being more transparent, and engaging in vulnerable conversations as we move into 2021.  We want to let you in to our questions & the things we’re working through, and we trust that if you’re here on the journey with us, you want to join in the conversation and do the same!  Our prayer is that even in conflict, we could be loving towards each other.  If we make our point but lose the plot of loving God & people, we’ve lost everything.  We love you and we’re so glad you’re here!     PS - we are launching a PATREON!  Never heard of it?  It's the ultimate L&TO insiders’ subscription, a chance to get unreleased songs, conversations, and devotionals delivered to you personally every month!  We will even do a Worship Wednesday exclusive just for Patreon members and pray for you all individually.  We are excited about going deeper with you, and we hope you’ll join us!  Patreon launches Feb. 1st!  Stay tuned for more info :)   PPS - if you’ve been looking for a way to participate in being light in the world during this COVID season, check out www.lovehealinghugs.com and sponsor a life-changing surgery for a child who desperately needs one!  For one dollar a day for a year, you can send a Healing Hug to a little one whose family can’t afford to pay for the surgery.  As God continues to provide for you, why not help provide for someone less fortunate than yourself.  Love you all, thanks for being so generous!!     Chris, Jodi, Milo & Ziggy

We had a 2021 “planning meeting” today and it was weird! How do you plan during a pandemic when your industry is shut down? Maybe you’re not facing the same challenges that we are as touring musicians who can’t tour, but I’m sure you’re feeling this tension in your life, too. The inability to put dates on a calendar, or see our families…maybe you’ve given up on dreaming? This week’s podcast is all about dreaming even when you can’t plan or see what’s ahead; how to not let last year’s disappointments steal your anticipation for what God has for you in 2021. We pray that these little tips are transformational in your life, and the way you approach this year. And if you’re looking for a way to give (and get a tax receipt) this year, head to www.lovehealinghugs.comand pay for a child living in poverty to have a life changing surgery this year.  $360 dollars ($1 a day) or $30 a month will sponsor a surgery for a little one who can’t afford it.  Send a healing hug this year! Love to you friends, keep dreaming! Chris, Jodi, Milo & Ziggy  

Merry Christmas Eve Eve! Our prayer this Christmas season has been, “God, help me to let go of what I think Christmas is supposed to be, and embrace what it is.”  We don’t want to miss all that God has here and now, because we keep looking back and wishing for the old days.  But this is easier said than done isn’t it?  Especially if you’re spending this Christmas alone, far from family, sick, stressed and depressed.   This week’s podcast episode is a short, ten minute devotional based on Matthew 2:10 - “When they saw the star, they rejoiced with great delight!”  We all need to be guided this Christmas.  We all need God’s light to brighten the dark places of our lives.  We all need the clarity & peace that comes from following the One who is lighting our way.   Just like Jupiter & Saturn crossed paths from our perspective last night here on earth, may we ask for God to shift our perspective to his presence so we can be present to the gifts He has for us this Christmas.   And if you’re looking for a way to give (and get a tax receipt) this year, head to www.lovehealinghugs.com and pay for a child living in poverty to have a life changing surgery this year.  $360 dollars ($1 a day) or $30 a month will sponsor a surgery for a little one who can’t afford it.  Send a healing hug this Christmas! Thanks for your love and support thru this crazy year!  Merry Christmas friends! xo Chris, Jodi, Milo & Ziggy

I woke up this morning feeling heavy-hearted, overwhelmed, and an overall lack of clarity & focus.  We are all balancing a lot these days, and the holidays are a magical time, but they add another layer to everything don’t they?  Here’s the thing - even in our over-whelm we still need to get up and function to take care of ourselves & our families.  I don’t have all the answers, but God does, and He definitely met me in the middle of it all and helped me through.  Here’s some tangible ways to feel and fight through overwhelm... and it all starts with His love.  I hope you find this helpful, love to hear your thoughts! Ps - This weekend ONLY, everything in Jodi’s shop is 20% off including these beautiful cross scarves!    

This Thanksgiving is so different for all of us.  We can’t get across the border to see family and eat turkey, and many of you are staying home and staying safe as well.  In the midst of it all, we have been feeling sad, lost, overwhelmed and exhausted, and a little ashamed for feeling that way.  As Christians aren’t we supposed to just push through and “be thankful?”  In this week’s podcast episode we talk about just that - how being thankful isn’t turning a blind eye to our pain and sadness, but knowing he is right there with us in the midst of it.  It is ok to feel both - sad and thankful.   Jesus himself said, “Blessed are the poor in spirit,” so He was giving us permission to feel down.  But scripture also reminds us that we don’t mourn as those who have no hope, and “the joy of the Lord is our strength”.  The only way Chris and I know of, to resiliently find hope in the midst of a challenging 2020, is to develop our gratitude muscle.  Gratitude leads to joy, which leads to strength.  We hope you find this episode both honest and encouraging as we let you into our lives.  You are not alone!  Wishing you all a meaningful and memorable Thanksgiving! 

It’s been the coolest thing watching the words I wrote connect with your heart and lead you to the Father. I started writing “You Got This” when my kids were babies, and seeing it in your hands is thrilling! Chris collected all of your questions about the book and some of our songs and we turned it into a podcast. Hope you enjoy having your questions answered and I hope our shout-outs were pronounced correctly! If you haven’t ordered the book yet or want to buy a bunch for Christmas presents, go to www.iamjodiking.shop

Riley Clemmons is fierce, friendly, and unafraid of being herself!  I guess when you’ve been writing songs since the age of ten, you know your voice pretty well.  Now, on the cusp of turning twenty, Riley opens up about her story and how it feels to be a young Christian woman in the music industry, with opinions and perspectives to share.  No matter what your career is or season of life you’re in, this episode is sure to inspire you to be less scared of what people think and more aware of who you are and who God is calling you to be.  The only way to know God’s voice is to lean in and listen.  The only way to know our own voice is to use it.   Hope you enjoy this episode with @rileyclemmons!  PS make sure and grab her new single out THIS FRIDAY!

Do you ever find yourself scrolling through Instagram wishing you had everyone else’s life? We spend so much time comparing and envying other people’s dreams and success that you don’t lean into your own! Today’s podcast conversation with Jamie Ivey helps us realize that success looks different for all of us, and satisfaction is closer than we think! She shares practical ways to embrace your space, bloom where you’re planted, and live your best life now, all from her new book “YOU BE YOU.”  This episode is for every woman wanting to lean into her calling and away from comparison. Go grab Jamie’s book here (https://linktr.ee/JamieIvey) and follow along with her here (@youbeyoubook @jamieivey).

We’re back!! We haven’t played a live show in seven months, but we’re learning that our calling hasn’t changed, just the way we do it. We spent this episode sharing the steps we’re taking to stay hopeful and sane and productive during this season, and how protecting our kids from everything is not our aim as parents. You gotta listen to the episode to get our thoughts on cancel culture and we’d love to hear your thoughts too! Oh yeah, and it’s Chris’ b-day!! We loved updating you guys on our lives and hope there are a few takeaways for yours!  Ps - have you heard our new single “Moving On”?  Check it out here https://youtu.be/qiQXZyD3xcg

This week’s episode with Carlos Whittaker is so empowering.  He just released a book called “Enter Wild,” all about moving from safe and boring to living a wild-not-mild faith.  He has battled anxiety and shares some of the tools that have helped him overcome it; praying scripture over your life and promises instead of problems. He has become a voice we follow and respect so much when it comes to race and injustice in America.  If you don’t follow him, you should @loswhit :). Also make sure to grab a copy of his new book here https://carloswhittaker.com/enter-wild/ 

We are so excited for this week’s podcast episode with Desiree Siegfried!  I got to zoom chat with her back in April, just as COVID-19 was getting crazy and we were a few weeks into quarantine. You may know her as ‘The Bachelorette’ from Season 9, where she shared her life with the world on national television... but lots has happened since then!  As a young woman searching for love while also searching for herself, and now as a momma of two boys and wife to the man she met on ‘The Bachelorette,’ Desiree opens up about her experience on reality TV, finding her identity in Christ, and why people-pleasing never works.  So pull up a chair and listen to Desiree’s story,  I know her faith journey is really going to encourage you!  Make sure and check out her podcast ‘Heart of Purpose’ and follow along with her on IG @desireesiegfried

How is your day going?  Chris and I hit the beach with the boys for a few days last week, and it was a refreshing change of scenery for us.  We had a chance to read and play and hang out together and it was just what we needed!  One of the books we read on our two-day getaway is Addison Bevere’s  Saints: Becoming More Than "Christians”.  I gotta admit, the title had us a bit stumped, but the message within explained and inspired us so much that we decided to have him on the podcast! Addison (son of Lisa & John Bevere), believes it is time to become more than just cultural Christians and start seeing and living as the saints that we are.  Did you know that the word ‘Christian’ is only used three times in the New Testament, but the word 'Saint' is used over sixty times?  Paul starts almost every letter ’To the saints…’ and that’s you and me!  "Saints is not just a name for dead people, it is meant to be our new identity that shapes our destiny.  Saints are people who break down barriers between the secular and the sacred, and people who see the intersection of faith in everyday life".   We can’t wait for you guys to hear this podcast and let it reframe the way you see yourself.  We pray this message will equip you to see and live boldly as your saintly identity sinks in.   Ps. follow Addison on IG here @addisonbevere and go grab a copy of his book here linktr.ee/addisonbevere 

We did something we’ve never done before - a live instagram chat with Danielle Coke, and turned it into a podcast!!  You have probably seen and been affected by her amazing artwork, and if you haven’t, go check out her page @ohhappydani.  She is a designer-turned-illustrator from Georgia, with a heart for justice and a love for Jesus and people.  Dani opened up about the micro-aggression she’s faced, for example; “You’re pretty for a black girl” or “is that your real hair?” -these are not things I’ve had to deal with before... We found this conversation so enlightening and life giving and we hope you do too.  Our prayer is that this conversation would help you see, hear and love your neighbor as yourself and that your awareness would lead you to action.

We want to press pause on our podcast schedule to talk about how we’ve been listening, learning, grieving and processing the racial injustice towards George Floyd, Ahmaud Arbery, and countless others in the world right now.  It’s been going on for a long time, but we are just now seeing it for what it is, and repenting for God to change our hearts.   We’ve never talked about this before, we aren’t going to have the perfect words to say, we don’t have all the answers but we’re learning.  Our prayer is that this very raw & vulnerable conversation would give you the courage to take a first step towards repentance and fighting injustice in your life.  We want this community to be a place to learn and grow together! For a long time we told ourselves this wasn’t our issue, but it is.  We need to call racism by name and live the kingdom of God now.  No more passive compassion, it’s time to move into action!  On earth as it is in heaven... there is no racism in heaven; we have a lot of work to do on earth. Let it begin with me.

I remember the first time I heard Lisa Bevere preach.  I was so impacted by how passionate & confident she was, and it was clear where her confidence came from.  God’s Word was the foundation she was standing on - and the leopard-print shoes she was standing in definitely made me want to hear more :).  Lisa has always been known for saying it like it is, and this podcast episode is no different.  We talked about everything from motherhood (she raised four boys) to why women have been fed the lie that being strong is wrong.  In her new devotional book ‘Strong,’  Lisa says, "Too often Christian women are associated with weakness rather than strength. Sometimes religion has taught us to hide rather than to rise. It is true that we are called to be meek, but not weak.”  Amen sister!  I think you guys are going to love hearing Lisa’s empowering thoughts, and you should probably grab her devotional book as well!!  You can grab her book and follow along with her journey on her instagram feed, @lisabevere.  Hope you enjoy this episode!

I’ve been having tea parties with my mom since I was a little girl, and now I’m a mom and it’s still one of my things to do.  So I thought, wouldn’t it be fun to turn one of our tea parties into a podcast and invite you into our conversation!  I’m so excited for you to meet my mom, Judi, as she shares her style of simplicity parenting, encourages us moms to chill out and slow down, and reflects on some moments she wishes she could do over!  She’s the best mom (I know, I’m biased) but I think you will appreciate her wisdom and the relaxed way she shares it.  Happy Mother’ Day! P.S. If you haven’t had a chance to pre-order my devotional book “YOU GOT THIS - A GUIDE TO DITCHING PERFECT AND SHOWING UP FOR YOUR REAL LIFE”, you can head to our kickstarter and do it now!  https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/yougotthis/you-got-this  

Have you ever felt confused by the word ‘calling?’ Maybe you’ve always believed calling and career are the same thing; I know I’ve definitely struggled with that. When we signed our record deal and started touring like crazy, I found myself attaching my value to my job, and that led me down a road of rediscovering who I really am, apart from ‘Jodi the singer.’ This week’s podcast episode features Paula Faris, former ABC anchor and co-host of The View, who left her two dream jobs to pursue a path God was leading her down. Her new book, “Called Out,” is all about her personal journey to figure out who she was apart from her dream jobs by separating her calling into two parts: a vocational and a faith calling. If you’ve ever struggled with achieving & where your worth comes from, this episode will bring freedom to your life! P.S. If you haven’t had a chance to pre-order my devotional book “YOU GOT THIS - A GUIDE TO DITCHING PERFECT AND SHOWING UP FOR YOUR REAL LIFE”, you can head to our kickstarter and do it now!  https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/yougotthis/you-got-this

Hi guys!   How is everyone quarantining?  We’ve never been home this much in our lives, so it’s definitely been a challenge trying to parent full-time and accomplish the things that we need to as a band. Everyday is a juggling act, am I right?  Some days flow, others flop, but we are learning a lot about about God and ourselves along the way.  We talk all about it in this week’s podcast episode, so I won’t give it all away now!  You can listen here:    Chris and I talk about how our quarantine is going and we also chatted with artist/worship leader Elle Limebear all the way from her home in Brighton, UK about how this season at home has been for her.  She is the daughter of Delirious? frontman Martin Smith, a newlywed and a youth leader as well as being an amazing artist.  Elle released a new album in February, and now she’s home off of the road with a truck load of them so make sure and support her and download her album “Lost in Wonder” here (G can you include LINK?).     And hey, If you need more amazing content to help you through this quarantine, check out Tanner Hobb’s podcast, ⁠Chasing Freedom Show⁠Podcasts, I know you will love her as much as I do!   P.S. If you haven’t had a chance to pre-order my devotional book “YOU GOT THIS - A GUIDE TO DITCHING PERFECT AND SHOWING UP FOR YOUR REAL LIFE”, you can head to our kickstarter and do it now!  https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/yougotthis/you-got-this Thanks for all your support, we couldn’t do this without you!

So...I wrote a book!  It’s a devotional book called “You Got This - A Guide To Ditching Perfect & Showing Up For Your Real Life.”  I’ve been working on it for the past couple of years, and actually you guys gave me the guts to go for it!!  Every time I posted a Motivational Monday video or verse of the day, you encouraged me to do more.  So, I’m doing more! The idea for this book really solidified when I became a mom, and continued to be an artist, and tour with my family all at the same time.  I had a moment backstage when I was nursing Ziggy and trying to fit into my skinny jeans and I was just falling apart from the pressure of trying to be perfect.  Ever been there?  Holy Spirit whispered to me, “You don’t have to have it all together, because I’m holding you together.”  From that moment on, I’ve made it my mission to let others know that being strong is just obediently showing up and letting God use you.  That’s what every page of this book is about, and I need your help to bring this dream to life.   I had no idea what a financial undertaking this would be, as Chris and I decided to do this on our own (yikes!).  By the time we paid all the legal, printing, design, and shipping fees, we’re looking at $10,000!  This is a huge step of faith for us, and at a really crazy period in history.  I was feeling really discouraged about this timing, until God reminded me that this is a season when everyone needs a little extra hope and encouragement, so maybe it’s the PERFECT time. We’ve come up with some amazing packages to say THANK YOU for helping me make this book a reality.  To everyone who pledges a dollar or more, we want to give you a new song for free!  One of the coolest packages includes your name on the THANK YOU page of the book!  How cool is that?!  All the packages are listed at (link) and every little bit helps!  I cannot wait to get a signed copy of this devotional book into your hands!  Thanks for helping my dream come true, I hope this book helps you go after yours!

Have you ever had a friend or pastor say “God told me…” or “I heard Holy Spirit say…” and wondered what they actually meant by that?  I know I have!  I remember being a teenager and wanting that same clarity and conviction, especially when it came to big decisions.  I was (and still am) so scared of messing things up.  Now I’m a mom and I depend on Holy Spirit’s voice to guide me through every moment of my day and often find myself saying “I really don’t know what to do right how” and pausing for His response.   I thought it might be helpful to explain what listening and responding to God actually looks like in my life.  I’m no expert on this, but I’ve definitely had to depend on a voice beyond my own many times for small and big decisions, and through walking in relationship with Holy Spirit for a few years now I’m excited to share what I’ve learned.  I hope it’s helpful in your daily journey with the Lord!  

I felt so stuck last year, and I was arguing with God about it - “You made me a go-getter and gave me these big dreams, why am I sitting at a standstill?” Ever felt that way?  Turns out asking God questions is a really good thing to do…because He answers!  Holy Spirit whispered back, “even when you feel stuck, I’m still moving.” Wow.  This revelation shifted my perspective completely.  What if we lived like God is always up to something and we aren’t stuck,  just on pause for His perspective?  What if we learned how to live with a heaven mindset instead of a human mindset, knowing that whatever we’re dealing with is an opportunity to know God in a new way?  In this episode, I share my journey from feeling stuck to being free, and the tools that got me there and help me stay in that place of freedom.  ‘Cause let’s be honest, this all sounds good but living this out in the everyday moments is when it gets real!! 

Do you ever feel like you and your partner can’t get on the same page?  You’re trying to love each other well but for some reason you’re just not speaking the same language?  Chris and I definitely went through this when we became a band and started a family in the same calendar year!  Or maybe you’re in a single season and you’re realizing that you have some unhealthy motivations that are exposed when you’re stressed out and busy - I’ve also been there!!  We all have a core longing that only Christ can fill - but when we try and fill it by ourselves, or expect our spouse, career or kids to do it, things get really out of balance!  The Enneagram is an amazing tool that when partnered with the gospel can help us become the healthiest versions of ourselves.  It’s not a replacement for the gospel, but a tool that helps us work towards wholeness in Christ.  Tune into this week’s podcast episode with Beth McCord, aka @yourenneagramcoach, as she shares her early marriage struggles and mom life/career journey and how the Enneagram gave language that helped her and her husband thrive.  She will help you stop committing “assumicide” about each other’s motives, and defuse conflict before it starts.  Beth & Jeff McCord’s latest book “Becoming Us” is available here https://www.yourenneagramcoach.com/becomingus   

Kelly LeVeque is a holistic nutritionist, celebrity food coach and author of New York Times best seller ‘Body Love’.  And when I read the title of her book I had to read it!! It became the book I recommended to my friends and family and told everyone they had to read because it changed the way Chris & I and the boys eat...it changed the way we live on and off the road.   Plus - she’s friends with Jennifer Garner, Jessica Alba and a bunch of powerhouse celebrity women so I was so excited to get to chat with her.   Because it turns out it doesn’t matter if you’re walking the red carpet or walking your kids to school in your yoga pants, we are all on a journey to accepting and loving our bodies.    Ps. her new book just came out ‘Body Love Everyday’ and you can connect with her here @bewellbykelly

Do you battle anxiety and worry on a regular basis?  Does it creep up on you in the middle of your day and make it hard to breath?  If so, you need some practical rhythms to help you identify and combat stress in real time, and that’s what this episode is all about.  Today’s episode with Rebekah Lyons is full of practical and spiritual tools that will help you turn your pain into purpose.  Her new book “ Rhythms of renewal” is about living everyday rested, restored, creative and connected, not riddled with fear and anxiety.  Because lets face it, living stressed can become our normal unless we face it head on and build new rhythms.  You are going to love this episode!  Hang with Rebekah here @rebekahlyons and find her book at www.rebekahlyons.com

Are your decisions driven by fear? Or by love? Which one calls the shots in your life? It's a deep question, but a life-changing one. If you feel crippled by fear, or buried under your habits of safety - you are not alone. So, today, if you need an extra gear of faith and freedom, this episode is for you. Jodi and Chris invite on the one and only, Bob Goff. Bob calls himself a "recovering lawyer" because after practicing law for 25 years, then becoming the Hon. Consul to Uganda, he gave up his law firm to pursue writing and speaking full time. Bob has inspired millions through his books, speaking, workshops and Love Does initiative to dream big and make life more awesome. He is driven by a desire to help others unlock their potential to love and be loved greater - which is evident in his Love Does Organization that is dedicated to helping kids in conflict areas. In this episode, Jodi is not only uncovering Bob's magnificent mind on taking action on your ambitions, she's asking all the questions you're probably wondering, too. Listen in as Bob and Jodi chat about how to get unstuck, what Bob does when he continually fails, is Bob always on the same page with his wife, Sweet Marie, and is someone telling you 'no' actually God telling you 'no.'  What goals and dreams have you been putting off out of fear or the thought that you can't do it, that it's too hard? Chances are, Bob could talk you out of those thoughts and send you charging into your next adventure.   Hang with Bob here! https://www.instagram.com/bobgoff/   Find his book, Love Does, here!  https://bobgoff.com/shop    

Ever feel like you always have to be one step ahead in life? Because if you're not, everything will be behind, you won't be prepared, and the to do list will forever remain unfinished? It can be so easy to get wrapped up in the day to day busy-ness and miss the current life step we’re in by always trying to plan for the next one. If this is you, and you're exhausted (hand raised over here!) - this episode is for you. Tune in as Chris and Jodi share stories where they personally struggle with this - and how they get themselves back on track. You'll learn how to be present in the midst of a messy season, how to become aware of the peace the Lord wants to give you, and what it means to swap your to do for a miracle list. Friend, it's your time to work from rest, not from stress.

Have you ever lost sight of you who are - your dreams, passions, calling - when you're in a relationship? Or feel like you have to choose between the two - it's either your dream or a marriage - but you can't have both? If so, you are SO not alone. We've all been there at some point. But in today's episode, Chris and Jodi are here to break down the lie that you have to sacrifice your personal goals in a relationship. Tune in to learn how they support each other in their dreams, how to work to each other's strengths, why personal space is key, and what to look for in a significant other if you are in a single season. They also dive into hilarious, behind the scenes stories of life before marriage. So whether you're single, engaged, or married - this episode is here to help you pursue personal health within a relationship. Don't think for a minute that marriage means you have to sacrifice your dream - because it IS possible to build dreams together.  

Do you find yourself waiting to uncover where your personal gifting overlaps with God’s anointing? Maybe these words are all foreign to you. If so, you’re not alone - I was there not to long ago, and if I’m being honest - I’m still unpacking it all. I know I have personally questioned the path along the way. I’ve asked god for direction, what my next steps were, and how to get to the finish line.  What did I learn? I wasn’t even asking the right question to begin with. If you find yourself frustrated because you aren’t sure how your gifting aligns with Gods plan for you - tune in to this episode to hear how I changed the question I was asking and three steps to find your God given sweet-spot.

Do you ever feel like you’ve missed your one chance at your dream? That it has an expiration date that has come and gone, but you’re still living with the passion in your heart for it? Friend - you are so not alone. It can be confusing when we know God has whispered a promise into our heart, but we don’t see any signs at the moment that it’s going to come to fruition. So what next, right? Tune into this episode as Jodi breaks down why your dream does NOT have an expiration date, how to steward your next steps even if you have no idea what’s next, and why the long road is not the wrong road. Whether you’re a mom and feel like it’s too late for your dreams, or you’re just graduating and uncertain of your next steps - this episode is for you. Tune in for encouragement and inspiration - because your dream is waiting to be remembered.

Is your morning routine helping you or hurting you? When we constantly hear the message that the perfect morning routine should look a specific way to achieve success, it can leave us feeling as if we don’t measure up when we aren’t able to live out that exact expectation. To that I say: It’s time to stop living from a place of pressure and it’s your time start living from a place of PURPOSE. Doesn’t that sound refreshing?! Whether you’re a mom with littles or your work schedule is varying – this will look different for everyone. And that is the beauty of it! There is no one-size fits all blueprint. And just because things were one way for a long time, doesn’t mean that will serve you well in the next season. And friend – THAT IS OKAY. Tune in to ditch the overwhelm and give yourself permission to let your posture change to the new season you may be stepping into. Listen in as Jodi shares her three tips on-Why to ditch the ‘perfect morning routine,’ - What it means to own your zone, and-How to live your life from a place of purpose – not pressure – starting with the beginning of your day. Friend, if you’re ready to overcome the stress and step into a fresh breath of freedom, this episode is for you. It’s time to lose the pressure and focus on your purpose.

From Etsy shop owner to a New York Times best selling author and entrepreneur, Jordan Lee Dooley is a woman on a mission to help all women live purposeful lives, everyday.  I’m a huge fan of her new book ‘Own Your Everyday’ and if you haven’t read it yet you need to!  This book is one of my new favs, so when Jordan agreed to sit down and chat with me about it on the podcast I was so excited! We talked about what it means to hustle healthy, how to work from a place of purpose NOT the pressure to prove. This episode is packed with practical and spiritual tips to help you maximize your everyday life.

I first met Julianna Zobrist on Instagram and fell in love with her poetic posts and positive outlook. Artist, speaker and author of her new book ‘Pull it off’ she was definitely juggling a bunch of different rolls, and seem to be pulling it off with ease.  I loved the book and if you haven’t read it go grab a copy! We sat down with Julianna a few months ago and asked her all my questions about overcoming insecurities and societal pressures, and how to have the courage to fit out instead of fit in, and be a mom amidst all of that! Hope you enjoy our conversation.   ------ Follow us on socials! http://www.instagram.com/loveandtheoutcome http://www.twitter.com/loveandoutcome http://www.facebook.com/loveandtheoutcome

Join us as Chris shares about the highs and lows and being a dad, how he navigates the transition from work life to home life, and the lessons we both learned from our dads!

We met Matthew West on one of our first Christmas tours and after listening to his set we were like; ok this guy can write a song!!! We had the privilege of sitting down with him to song write before we recorded this podcast, and decided maybe you guys would enjoy a look inside Matthew West’ song writing process!  He also talks about raising two (almost teenage) daughters, and what it looks like to balance a home life and a road life. We hope you enjoy our conversation!

Excited to take you behind the scenes of the writing and recording of our new single ‘You Got This’.  This song was Ziggy’s first writing session which makes it pretty special :) Ps. Special acoustic performance at the end of this episode!  Listen to You Got This at http://smarturl.it/You-Got-This

We had the pleasure of touring with Sadie on Winterjam + the LiveOriginal Tour in 2016. Since then it’s been amazing to watch as she stewards her gifts and passions. Sadie has blazed a trail for young women all the whilst showing them they can do the same. Keeping busy with TV appearances on Duck Dynasty to Dancing With The Stars, writing books, and speaking all over the world. On this episode Sadie shares how to put God first, using social media as a tool to bring life and light into peoples lives.

Celebrating 20 years since the release of her first album, seven time Grammy nominated Natalie Grant shares some of the major obstacles she’s overcome and the lessons she’s learned along the way.