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Michelle Grattan talks politics with politicians and experts, from Capital Hill.

Michelle Grattan

Canberra, Australia


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    Liberal Andrew McLachlan on why he'll still promote net zero

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 18, 2025 21:36


    The South Australian Liberal senator says he's "dubious" about being able to sell the Coalition's new policy to voters – describing it as "carefree with emissions".

    Murray Watt on the compromises to pass new environmental laws before christmas

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 13, 2025 27:18


    With only one sitting week of Parliament left this year, the environment minister reveals the compromises he's willing to make and the hard lines he won't cross to get the deal done.

    Michelle Grattan remembers the day Whitlam lost his job

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 9, 2025 13:30


    Michelle Grattan and the politics and society editor for the Conversation Amanda Dunn, talk about the dismissal.

    Niki Savva and David Solomon on The Dismissal

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 5, 2025 27:36


    Next week is the 50th anniversary of the dismissal of the Whitlam government. We're joined by Niki Savva and David Solomon to talk about their memories of that day.

    Sam Rae on big changes to aged care

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 29, 2025 28:39


    Amid rising demand for aged care, major changes are rolling out from Saturday. Minister for seniors Sam Rae explains what the overhaul means for older Australians.

    Tony Abbott on Australia's past and the opposition's future

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 21, 2025 33:46


    The former Liberal prime minister says he wrote a new history book 'to help contemporary Australians think better of themselves'.

    Pollster Tony Barry on why the Coalition can't risk ‘lurching to the right'

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 15, 2025 28:21


    The former Liberal strategist turned pollster says the Coalition has become "catastrophically uncompetitive" with women and younger voters.

    Andrew Jakubowicz on repairing our 'fragile' multicultural nation

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 8, 2025 28:05


    The multiculturalism expert says increased tensions since the October 7 attacks have raised 'the tideline of hate speech' in Australia.Mentioned in this episode:Sign up to The Conversation's newsletterhttps://theconversation.com/au/newsletters

    James Paterson on Andrew Hastie, Sussan Ley and himself

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 2, 2025 25:48


    Opposition finance spokesman James Paterson canvasses the economy and the budget, says the Liberals need to sort out its stance on net zero sooner rather than later.Mentioned in this episode:Sign up to The Conversation's newsletterhttps://theconversation.com/au/newsletters

    Former diplomat Ian Parmeter on an Israel-led 'one-state solution'

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 25, 2025 32:35


    The former Australian ambassador turned scholar says despite more countries recognising Palestine as a state, a peaceful two-state solution is slipping away.

    Tony Wood on 'politics trumping climate policy' and the hard road ahead

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 17, 2025 24:31


    The energy expert says Australia's only on track to cut its emissions by around 50% by 2035 – 'so we're going to have to step up the pace' in the next decade.Mentioned in this episode:Sign up to The Conversation's newsletterhttps://theconversation.com/au/newsletters

    Abul Rizvi on how silence and stalling stoke anti-migrant fears

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 3, 2025 19:11


    A former deputy secretary of the immigration department under the Howard government says 'it's time politicians on both sides pulled up their socks'.Mentioned in this episode:Sign up to The Conversation's newsletterhttps://theconversation.com/au/newsletters

    Health Minister Mark Butler on kids on the NDIS through to aged care funding

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 28, 2025 26:50


    The health minister also says fewer kids are now vaping because of the government's ban, which 'exploded' as a health problem during the COVID years.Mentioned in this episode:Sign up to The Conversation's newsletterhttps://theconversation.com/au/newsletters

    Shadow Treasurer Ted O'Brien and industry chief Andrew McKellar's reform wish list

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 19, 2025 33:51


    Both men say the government has a 'spending problem' and are urging the federal government to think beyond raising taxes – especially for business.Mentioned in this episode:How Australian Democracy Works'How Australian Democracy Works' edited by Politics Editor Amanda Dunn is out now in all good book stores.Sign up to The Conversation's newsletterhttps://theconversation.com/au/newsletters

    Union boss Sally McManus on the push for shorter work hours in the age of AI

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 14, 2025 17:58


    McManus doesn't expect instant wins on shorter work hours from next week's economic summit, but says it still needs to be on the table – along with AI protections.Mentioned in this episode:Sign up to The Conversation's newsletterhttps://theconversation.com/au/newsletters

    Jim Chalmers wants roundtable to 'crack open' the challenge of slow housing approvals

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 13, 2025 34:57


    Housing is on the agenda at next week's productivity roundtable, with the Treasurer wanting better regulation and faster approvals to build more homes.Mentioned in this episode:Sign up to The Conversation's newsletterhttps://theconversation.com/au/newsletters

    Talking about 'blokes' issues' with ex-Olympian and Labor MP Dan Repacholi

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 7, 2025 24:32


    The former five-time Olympic shooter and coal miner wants men of all ages not to be afraid of speaking about their health – as he used to be.Mentioned in this episode:Sign up to The Conversation's newsletterhttps://theconversation.com/au/newslettersThe Conversation WeeklySearch for 'The Conversation Weekly' wherever you get your podcasts.

    YouTube, podcasters and leading economists: Allegra Spender on how she's trying to influence tax reform

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 31, 2025 28:58


    The influential crossbench MP warns young working people are going backwards financially. She also backs the government's proposed YouTube ban for kids – for now.Mentioned in this episode:Sign up to The Conversation's newsletterhttps://theconversation.com/au/newsletters

    Chris Bowen on why it's ‘a little frustrating' bidding for COP 31

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 24, 2025 22:27


    We're joined on this podcast by the Minister for Climate Change and Energy Chris Bowen who outlines Australia's ongoing energy transition.Mentioned in this episode:The Conversation WeeklySearch for 'The Conversation Weekly' wherever you get your podcasts.

    Malcolm Turnbull on Australia's 'dumb' defence debate

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 16, 2025 40:19


    The former prime minister warns debate about national security has 'never been dumber' – and AUKUS risks costing Australia far more than anyone wants to admit.Mentioned in this episode:Sign up to The Conversation's newsletterhttps://theconversation.com/au/newsletters

    Larissa Waters on why we deserve more than a government that just tinkers

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 10, 2025 23:27


    With the government's big win at the election, how hard will the Greens push on legislation this term. We ask new leader Senator Larissa Waters. Mentioned in this episode:The Conversation WeeklySearch for 'The Conversation Weekly' wherever you get your podcasts.Sign up to The Conversation's newsletterhttps://theconversation.com/au/newsletters

    Kerrynne Liddle on seizing more opportunities with Indigenous Australians

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 2, 2025 31:26


    The shadow minister for Indigenous Australians and social services says we need 'unpleasant conversations' to achieve real outcomes – like keeping families together.Mentioned in this episode:Sign up to The Conversation's newsletterhttps://theconversation.com/au/newslettersThe Conversation WeeklySearch for 'The Conversation Weekly' wherever you get your podcasts.

    Treasury veteran Ken Henry on the "enormous damage" the tax system does to young people

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 26, 2025 28:42


    Former secretary of the Treasury Ken Henry joins us to talk about his 40+ years experience in working to reform Australia's tax system. Mentioned in this episode:Sign up to The Conversation's newsletterhttps://theconversation.com/au/newsletters

    An 'impatient' Jim Chalmers on taking political risks in Labor's second term

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 17, 2025 34:52


    From new ways to fast-track cheaper homes and renewable energy to bigger tax reforms, Treasurer Jim Chalmers tells the podcast his door is open for fresh ideas.Mentioned in this episode:Sign up to The Conversation's newsletterhttps://theconversation.com/au/newsletters

    Senator Tammy Tyrrell on wild days in Tasmania

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 11, 2025 27:10


    On the podcast this week we're joined by Independent Tasmanian Senator Tammy Tyrrell to discuss chaotic state of politics on the Apple Isle.Mentioned in this episode:How Australian Democracy Works'How Australian Democracy Works' edited by Politics Editor Amanda Dunn is out now in all good book stores.

    Historian Emma Shortis warns against falling into Trump's trade traps

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 4, 2025 29:34


    Ahead of Anthony Albanese's likely first meeting with Donald Trump this month, a US politics expert says 'begging' for lower tariffs would be a mistake.Mentioned in this episode:How Australian Democracy Works'How Australian Democracy Works' edited by Politics Editor Amanda Dunn is out now in all good book stores.

    Zoe McKenzie on everything that went wrong and whether a gender quota could help the Liberals

    Play Episode Listen Later May 29, 2025 30:42


    We're joined by Liberal Zoe McKenzie who was elected to the Melbourne electorate of Flinders in 2022. She joins us to talk about the Liberal party future.

    Jim Chalmers on keeping Australia out of recession amid the 'dark shadow' of global instability

    Play Episode Listen Later May 21, 2025 21:31


    From super changes to avoiding recession, federal Treasurer Jim Chalmers joins the podcast to discuss the government's priorities when Parziament returns in July.Mentioned in this episode:How Australian Democracy Works'How Australian Democracy Works' edited by Politics Editor Amanda Dunn is out now in all good book stores.

    Jim Chalmers on keeping Australia out of recession amid the 'dark shadow' of global instability

    Play Episode Listen Later May 20, 2025 21:50


    From super changes to avoiding recession, federal Treasurer Jim Chalmers joins the podcast to discuss the government's priorities when Parliament returns in July.

    Andrew Leigh on more productive work in the age of AI

    Play Episode Listen Later May 14, 2025 29:36


    Assistant Minister Andrew Leigh is charged with lifting Australia's stagnant productivity. He says AI may help us do less drudge work, such as sending endless emails.Mentioned in this episode:Sign up to The Conversation's newsletterhttps://theconversation.com/au/newslettersHow Australian Democracy Works'How Australian Democracy Works' edited by Politics Editor Amanda Dunn is out now in all good book stores.

    David Pocock wants us to aim for up 90% reduction in emissions

    Play Episode Listen Later May 8, 2025 20:22


    David Pocock joins us today to talk about the new Senate situation, his aspirations for the next three years and the election generally. Mentioned in this episode:Your support mattersSupport non-profit journalism you can trust. Donations 2025How Australian Democracy Works'How Australian Democracy Works' edited by Politics Editor Amanda Dunn is out now in all good book stores.

    The post mortem: election special episode with Michelle Grattan and Amanda Dunn

    Play Episode Listen Later May 5, 2025 21:13


    The election's over, it's a resounding win for Labor, but what now? How will the Liberal party rebuild?Mentioned in this episode:The Conversation WeeklySearch for 'The Conversation Weekly' wherever you get your podcasts.How Australian Democracy Works'How Australian Democracy Works' edited by Politics Editor Amanda Dunn is out now in all good book stores.Sign up to The Conversation's newsletterhttps://theconversation.com/au/newsletters

    Culture wars and costings: election special podcast with Michelle Grattan and Amanda Dunn

    Play Episode Listen Later May 2, 2025 16:41


    editorial@theconversation.edu.auPolicy tracker: https://stories.theconversation.com/policy-tracker/ Mentioned in this episode:How Australian Democracy Works'How Australian Democracy Works' edited by Politics Editor Amanda Dunn is out now in all good book stores.The Conversation WeeklySearch for 'The Conversation Weekly' wherever you get your podcasts.Sign up to The Conversation's newsletterhttps://theconversation.com/au/newsletters

    Pollster Kos Samaras on how voters are leaving the major parties behind

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 28, 2025 19:00


    Ex-Labor strategist turned pollster Kos Samaras says both major parties have been slow in adapting to this year's huge pre-poll voter turnout.Mentioned in this episode:Sign up to The Conversation's newsletterhttps://theconversation.com/au/newslettersHow Australian Democracy Works'How Australian Democracy Works' edited by Politics Editor Amanda Dunn is out now in all good book stores.

    Scares and stunts in the home stretch: election special episode with Michelle Grattan and Amanda Dunn

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 24, 2025 15:31


    editorial@theconversation.edu.auPolicy tracker: https://stories.theconversation.com/policy-tracker/ Mentioned in this episode:How Australian Democracy Works'How Australian Democracy Works' edited by Politics Editor Amanda Dunn is out now in all good book stores.The Conversation WeeklySearch for 'The Conversation Weekly' wherever you get your podcasts.Sign up to The Conversation's newsletterhttps://theconversation.com/au/newsletters

    Politics with Michelle Grattan: historian Frank Bongiorno on dramatic shifts in how elections are fought and won

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 23, 2025 34:17


    From handling town hall hecklers to swaying voters through podcasts and online algorithms, Australian election campaigns have transformed in recent generations.Mentioned in this episode:Sign up to The Conversation's newsletterhttps://theconversation.com/au/newsletters

    Two blunders and tap dancing with the truth: election special podcast with Michelle Grattan and Amanda Dunn

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 18, 2025 14:24


    editorial@theconversation.edu.auPolicy tracker: https://stories.theconversation.com/policy-tracker/Mentioned in this episode:Sign up to The Conversation's newsletterhttps://theconversation.com/au/newslettersHow Australian Democracy Works'How Australian Democracy Works' edited by Politics Editor Amanda Dunn is out now in all good book stores.The Conversation WeeklySearch for 'The Conversation Weekly' wherever you get your podcasts.Mentioned in this episode:Sign up to The Conversation's newsletterhttps://theconversation.com/au/newsletters

    Politics with Michelle Grattan: Warwick McKibbin on trying to model economic certainty in uncertain times

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 16, 2025 26:36


    Joining us from Washington DC is Warwick McKibbin, an internationally renowned economic modeller from the ANU whose services are now in high demand.Mentioned in this episode:How Australian Democracy Works'How Australian Democracy Works' edited by Politics Editor Amanda Dunn is out now in all good book stores.Sign up to The Conversation's newsletterhttps://theconversation.com/au/newsletters

    DOGEy Dutton and a dull debate: election special episode with Michelle Grattan and Amanda Dunn

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 11, 2025 18:47


    editorial@theconversation.edu.auPolicy tracker: https://stories.theconversation.com/policy-tracker/ Mentioned in this episode:Sign up to The Conversation's newsletterhttps://theconversation.com/au/newslettersHow Australian Democracy Works'How Australian Democracy Works' edited by Politics Editor Amanda Dunn is out now in all good book stores.The Conversation WeeklySearch for 'The Conversation Weekly' wherever you get your podcasts.

    Hugh White on what the next PM should tell Trump and defending Australia – without the US

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 9, 2025 31:33


    Defence expert Hugh White says Australia should leave AUKUS and plan to "take responsibility for our own security", without relying on the US coming to our aid.Mentioned in this episode:Sign up to The Conversation's newsletterhttps://theconversation.com/au/newslettersHow Australian Democracy Works'How Australian Democracy Works' edited by Politics Editor Amanda Dunn is out now in all good book stores.

    What it's like to be showered with Trump dust: election special episode with Michelle Grattan and Amanda Dunn

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 4, 2025 17:52


    editorial@theconversation.edu.auReader survey: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/TheConversationElection25Policy tracker: https://stories.theconversation.com/policy-tracker/ Mentioned in this episode:How Australian Democracy Works'How Australian Democracy Works' edited by Politics Editor Amanda Dunn is out now in all good book stores.The Conversation WeeklySearch for 'The Conversation Weekly' wherever you get your podcasts.Sign up to The Conversation's newsletterhttps://theconversation.com/au/newsletters

    Kos Samaras on polls and the people who'll decide this election

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 1, 2025 23:39


    Kos Samaras, a director of the political consultancy firm Redbridge and a former Labor Party official joins to talk about the polls and the parties prospects.Mentioned in this episode:How Australian Democracy Works'How Australian Democracy Works' edited by Politics Editor Amanda Dunn is out now in all good book stores.

    It's on: tracking policies and truth in advertising. Election special episode with Michelle Grattan and Amanda Dunn

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 28, 2025 24:06


    Policy tracker:https://stories.theconversation.com/policy-tracker/Set the Agenda survey:https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/TheConversationElection25email us: editorial@theconversation.edu.auMentioned in this episode:How Australian Democracy Works'How Australian Democracy Works' edited by Politics Editor Amanda Dunn is out now in all good book stores.The Conversation WeeklySearch for 'The Conversation Weekly' wherever you get your podcasts.Sign up to The Conversation's newsletterhttps://theconversation.com/au/newsletters

    Jim Chalmers and Angus Taylor on tax top-ups and budget bottom lines

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 26, 2025 28:32


    On this podcast we are joined by Treasurer Jim Chalmers and Shadow Treasurer Angus Taylor to talk about the budget.Mentioned in this episode:How Australian Democracy Works'How Australian Democracy Works' edited by Politics Editor Amanda Dunn is out now in all good book stores.Sign up to The Conversation's newsletterhttps://theconversation.com/au/newsletters

    Negotiating with the Greens and negotiating with Trump: election special episode with Michelle Grattan and Amanda Dunn

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 21, 2025 21:35


    Michelle Grattan and The Conversation's Politics Editor Amanda Dunn discuss the big issues of the week and answer your questions.Mentioned in this episode:How Australian Democracy Works'How Australian Democracy Works' edited by Politics Editor Amanda Dunn is out now in all good book stores.Sign up to The Conversation's newsletterhttps://theconversation.com/au/newsletters

    Barbara Pocock on the Greens' policy priorities

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 19, 2025 33:00


    With the polls close to a dead heat, would the Greens push a potential minority Labor government even harder to pursue their agenda?

    Tariffs, a tricky road for Dutton and the future of Pine Gap: election special episode with Michelle Grattan and Amanda Dunn

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 14, 2025 18:06


    Michelle Grattan and The Conversation's Politics Editor Amanda Dunn discuss the big issues of the week and answer your questions.Mentioned in this episode:Sign up to The Conversation's newsletterhttps://theconversation.com/au/newslettersHow Australian Democracy Works'How Australian Democracy Works' edited by Politics Editor Amanda Dunn is out now in all good book stores.

    Peter Dutton on why he's not Australia's Trump – ‘I'm my own person'

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 13, 2025 45:50


    Opposition leader Peter Dutton joins the podcast to discuss his ambitions if he becomes Prime Minster at the May election.

    Tina Jackson says there's 'No such thing as a safe seat': 3 independent challengers to watch this election

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 12, 2025 24:27


    We are joined by the co-founder of the Community Independents Project, Tina Jackson - a key figure behind Zali Steggall's successful campaign against Tony Abbott in 2019Mentioned in this episode:Listen to Scam Factories on The Conversation Weekly

    Cyclone Alfred wreaks havoc as leaders await Trump tariff decision: election special episode 2 with Amanda Dunn and Michelle Grattan

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 7, 2025 16:28


    Cyclone Alfred wreaks havoc as leaders await Trump tariff decision: election special episode 2 with Amanda Dunn and Michelle GrattanFrom cyclones to school funding announcements, there have been lot of issues - and disruptions - for the prime minister and opposition leader.As we gear up for a Federal election, Politics + Society Editor Amanda Dunn and Political Correspondent Michelle Grattan sit down to talk about this week's key issues. Mentioned in this episode:Listen to Scam Factories on The Conversation Weekly

    James Curran on Trump, Ukraine, shifting tectonic plates, and a bigger Australian defence bill

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 7, 2025 28:33


    To discuss Trump Mark 2 on the world stage and what that means for Australia, we're joined by James Curran, professor of modern history at the University of Sydney.Mentioned in this episode:Listen to Scam Factories on The Conversation Weekly

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