The Silver Bullet, led by Captain Armond Winchester, remains at the mercy of the victorious Uhuru crew. Captain Orimar Vale has made an offer: "Kneel to me as your king and the benevolence shall be provided." Winchester has an answer, alongside a warning. The man who hired him is no stranger to Captain Orimar, and his sinister intent is more than passing fancy. Later, the Uhuru crew pillages what equipment, trinkets, and supplies they see fit, whereupon the Captain's Council makes a sinister discovery of their own.CONTENT NOTEMain Show: Crocodile descriptionDear Uhuru: Spooky Victorian Dolls and associated horror tropesSUPPORT OSN SHOWSThe Audioverse AwardsDiscover PodsTHE ULTIMATE RPG GUIDE SERIESGet the Worldbuilding Guide!Get the Gameplay GuideGet the Backstory GuideGet the Micro RPG BookSkyjacks Setting Zine Volume 1Skyjacks AlbumJoin Our Mailing ListBuy A Different Bird Shirt
It's another Halloween season and another Deucecast Movie Show Halloween Themed episode! Mikey, Dave, and #TwitterlessDrEarl welcome in the Spawn of Scott Ryfun, aka Lil G, aka the Pride of Villa Rica, Garrison! First, a quick overview of the recent box office release "DUNE", with discussions on the film itself, performances, the vision that is Rebecca Ferguson, it's box office staying power, Jason Mamoa, comparisons to the book, and much more. Then, a chat about favorite Murder Mystery films -- Agatha Christie characters to Daniel Craig to classic flicks to Korean gems to the best movie made from a board game since Battleship. And finally, Mikey gives the results of 2021's MikeTober, with a bonus MikeTober for the Listeners Movies Discussed, and where to find them at time of recording Blood Simple (1984) - HBO Max Clue (1985) - Paramount+ Cure (1997) - Criterion Channel Dune (1984) - HBO Max Dune (2021) - HBO Max; in theaters The Fugitive (1993) - HBO Max Gosford Park (2001) - for rental Insomnia (1997) - Criterion Channel Insomnia (2002) - HBO Max The Kid Detective (2020) - STARZ Knives Out (2019) - Amazon Prime The Long Goodbye - Hoopla The Maltese Falcon (1941) - HBO Max Memento (2000) - TubiTV; for rental Memories of Murder (2003) - Hulu Murder by Death - for rental Old Boy (2003) - unavailable Sea of Love (1989) - for rental A Shot in the Dark (1964) - HBO Max Sleuth (1972) - unavailable MikeTober Films & bonus MikeTobery too! The Babysitter: Killer Queen (2020) - Netflix The Ghost & Mr Chicken (1966) - for rental The Howling (1981) - AMC+ / for rental Near Dark (1987) - unavailable One Cut of the Dead (2017) - AMC+ / for rental Scout's Guide to the Zombie Apocalypse - for rental Stephen King's Silver Bullet (1985) - AMC+ / for rental
Talking Weird's hosts Dean and Jenn launch into a fun and fast moving conversation about Halloween, astrology, and horror films. Films they chat about include HALLOWEEN 3: SEASON OF THE WITCH, John Carpenter's original HALLOWEEN (and HALLOWEEN 2), as well as Rob Zombie's remakes and his HOUSE OF 1000 CORPSES, THE DEVIL'S REJECTS, and LORDS OF SALEM. They also talk POLTERGEIST, NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET, SILVER BULLET, PRINCE OF DARKNESS, CHILDREN OF THE DAMNED, ROSEMARY'S BABY, Larry Cohen's IT'S ALIVE franchise, and Don Coscarelli's PHANTASM franchise. Dean and Jenn also remember some TV programs and mini-series: From IT'S THE GREAT PUMPKIN CHARLIE BROWN, THE WALTONS, and HAPPY DAYS, through THE STAND, ROSE RED, IT, SALEM'S LOT, MASTERS OF HORROR to THE LOWE FILES. Taking questions and comments from viewers of the live show, this is an entertaining and lively chat, perfect to warm you up for the spooky season! Support TALKING WEIRD by purchasing one of the fantastic Fortean themed T-shirts available at: www.charlesfort.org Or you can "buy" Dean and Jenn "a coffee" at: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/weird Watch HALLOWEEN FAIRY TALE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxIaaNA_-2s Darkest Child by Kevin MacLeod http://incompetech.com Creative Commons — Attribution 4.0 International — CC BY 4.0 Free Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/darkest-child Thanks for listening, Happy Halloween, and keep it weird!
Chris regains several of his developer merit badges and embarks on a perilous CSRF (Cross-Site Request Forgery) adventure. Steph shares highlights from Plucky, a management training course, including ways we can "click" and "break apart" from our current role, and how to have hard conversations. They also discuss how software development processes change at different team sizes, processes that break down as teams grow, and processes that are resilient at any team size. This episode is brought to you by ScoutAPM (https://scoutapm.com/bikeshed). Give Scout a try for free today and Scout will donate $5 to the open source project of your choice when you deploy The Nightmare Before Christmas - What's This (https://youtu.be/QLvvkTbHjHI) Giant Robots Smashing into other Giant Robots - Plucky with Jen Dary (https://www.giantrobots.fm/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&term=plucky) Plucky (https://www.beplucky.com/) Services are Not a Silver Bullet (https://thoughtbot.com/blog/services-are-not-a-silver-bullet) Become a Sponsor (https://thoughtbot.com/sponsorship) of The Bike Shed! Transcript: STEPH: Boom. I'm recording. Magic is happening. [singing] What's this? What's this? It's a Bike Shed episode. What's this? What's this? CHRIS: You did that on the mic. [laughter] So you just started recording too, so it's not like you're like, "Oh, I forgot I was recording." STEPH: Oh, I didn't have a finishing line that rhymes with shed. CHRIS: Head, dead, bread, spread. STEPH: [singing] Is TDD dead? I don't know. [laughs] CHRIS: Cool. I liked it. STEPH: Hello and welcome to another episode of The Bike Shed, a weekly podcast from your friends at thoughtbot about developing great software. I'm Steph Viccari. CHRIS: And I'm Chris Toomey. STEPH: And together, we're here to share a bit of what we've learned along the way. Hey, Chris, what's new in your world? CHRIS: What's new? I had a fun experience over the past week or two of regaining some of my developer merit badges, which is always enjoyable. So one was I had to configure AWS, specifically S3 and IAM such that I could upload files to an S3 bucket, which seems like one of those things that a developer should be able to do, and it's just not that hard. And, man, I failed so many times, and I stared at the screen. And the ARNs I think that's another acronym that I had to try and figure out what it means and fight against. Anyway, I got there. So that's one merit badge earned. I really hope [laughs] I correctly and securely configured access to an S3 bucket such that we could upload files in our Rails app. Cool, neat. Moving on, the next merit badge that I went for was restoring the sea of green dots. Our RSpec output had gathered some noise. There was a whole bunch of noise across a variety of things. There were some dev tools that were dumping some stuff in there. And there was something related to apparition, which is the...I want to say it's the Capybara feature spec driver that we're using now, which sits on top of ChromeDriver or something like that. I don't really understand the details, but it was complaining about something. And I found a fix, and then I fixed it and whatnot. But it was one of those. I did this on a Saturday because I was just like, you know what? This will be cathartic and healing. And then I got to the sea of green dots, and I was so happy to get to it. STEPH: This is me...I'm giving you a round of applause. CHRIS: Well, thank you. Arguable whether it delivered any real value to users, but again, this was Saturday effort, so I was allowed to indulge my fastidious caretaker of the code role. STEPH: Sorry, before we move on to more serious, can we pause to talk about developer merit badges? I really, really want cute felt badges that we can...I mean, I can't design them. I don't have the talent. But I think between us and other folks, we could design amazing merit badges, and then people could collect those. I'm very much in love with that idea. CHRIS: I love the idea. I am now certain that if we were to really pursue this, that we would fall into the deepest of bike sheds as we try and define well; what are all the merit badges? And what are the different levels? STEPH: [laughs] CHRIS: And how many do you need to collect before you can get to what are the different...There are just so many different taxonomies that we could introduce, and, oh man, I could spend a couple of weeks on that. STEPH: [laughs] It has a very strong Pokémon vibe too of you got to catch them all. CHRIS: Absolutely. STEPH: Okay. All right. We won't digress into bikeshedding merit badges, but I'm still very, very interested in that idea. CHRIS: Indeed. If anyone out there in the listener space wants to just make these, that would be great. This is the way that I avoid bikeshedding now is I just say I'm not allowed to make these decisions or even think about it. But if these happened into the world, I would be happy about that. STEPH: Oh, I just remembered we do have something similar at thoughtbot. They're not physical where you can hold them, but I think we've talked about turning them into physical badges. But we have our internal tool hub that we used to track our schedules. And one of the fun Ralphapalooza events that we had, a team came up with the idea of introducing badges in the tool hub, so then you could award people badges. You could give people badges. And it's very cute. So they could probably help us with the taxonomy. They've probably already figured out a number of badges we could get started with. CHRIS: And of course, this is where my brain went initially to like, oh, what would the taxonomy be? But I think that's how this goes bad. And if we just keep it in the this is cute and fun, and what are all the possible merit badges, but they're all equal, and the points are made up anyway, and then it's just a fun thing, then I'm like, I'm super into this. Let's do that. Have you used a regular expression to parse HTML? Congratulations, you get a merit badge. Have you not used regular expressions to parse HTML? You get a different merit badge. [chuckles] STEPH: [laughs] I feel very positive that I could be chief of cute and fun. I could manage that department. CHRIS: Yes, that feels like definitely a role that you could really excel at. But shifting around ever so slightly, I did run into a fun bug this week. And it was a mystery tour of, I'm going to say, sadness and then eventual learning and understanding, and I think we've come to a better place. But I want to tell a story, take us on a quick tour of the adventure that I went through. So we recently saw a handful of exceptions come through in our exception monitoring service and then piped into Slack, where we see those around CSRF token expiry. So this occasionally happens in a Rails app. The CSRF token that was on the page gets rotated. And therefore, when someone...if they have an older version of the page open and they try and submit a form or something like that, then CSRF protection is going to kick in. And you do get some false negatives there or some cases where like, nope, this is actually a fine user, this is not hacking, this is nothing bad. It's just that that user had a tab open or something like that. I'll be honest; I want to understand better the timeline of expiry and how Rails expires those and whatnot. But it's one of those things; it's deep enough in Rails that I trust that they are doing a very reasonable thing. And I think the failures that we're seeing that's part of the game. And so, mostly, we wanted to add a nicer handling around that. So thankfully, Inertia actually has a really wonderful page in their docs about handling Cross-Site Request Forgery expiration token, this whole thing. This is a particular failure mode that your app might have. And so it's nice to be able to provide a nicer user experience. And so what we ended up doing is if we catch that exception, we have a rescue_from in our application controller that will instead of having this be a 500 and just a full, like, something went wrong error page, we instead respond in an Inertia-like way to basically show a flash message that says, "This page has expired. Please refresh the page to continue." And if the user just refreshes the page, then they will get a new CSRF token. And from there, everything is going to be fine. So it's not ideal. But it is, I think, both secure and now a nicer user experience. STEPH: Yeah, that sounds really nice. When they refresh the page, do they lose all that form data? I'm curious how painful of a flow that is for the user. CHRIS: Currently, yes. Inertia actually has a really nice feature for remembering form data. If you've ever been on GitHub and you're filling in a box, and then you go away to a different tab, and you come back, and it's still there, and you're happy about that, it's that sort of thing. So we could configure that. At this point, we don't have...most of our forms are pretty small. So this is not something that we opted to do proactive management around. But that is definitely something that we could add but not something that's default or anything like that. STEPH: Cool. Yeah, that makes sense. I was just curious because yeah, either small form doesn't really matter, or also, this may be just a small enough error that only a handful of people are experiencing it that it's also just not that big of a deal. CHRIS: Yes, this definitely should be an edge case. And we've also recently been working on functionality to log folks out after a period of inactivity, which would also, I think, obviate this in a different way. So all total, this shouldn't be a big deal. And this was basically a quick, little snippet of code that we thought we could just drop in, and everything would be great because it shouldn't happen much. But then I was testing out a different feature on staging, and everything I tried to do was popping up this little alert flash message that was like, "Hey, your page is expired." And I was like, that seems bad. And then I realized literally every action, any non-GET request, was getting this response that the CSRF token didn't match. And I was like, well, this seems bad. Luckily, it was only on staging and hadn't made it to production. But it had made it to staging, which meant it had gotten through CI, which was very concerning because we have a pretty robust set of feature specs at this point. We built up a bunch of fakes for all of the external data systems that we're interacting with. And we're really putting the app through its paces and trying to do so in a very production-like way. And so I was like, this is such a deep fundamental breakage. I don't know what's going on here. And so I started to investigate. And it turns out that in a recent commit, I had started using Axios, which is a little wrapper around the Fetch API. They may not actually use the Fetch API under the hood, but it allows you to have a nicer interface to make XHRs. And we implicitly had that in our package already by virtue of Inertia. Inertia uses it under the hood, but I wanted to make it explicit because now I was using it directly. So I figured that's cool. I will yarn add Axios, and then I will continue on with my day. And I worked on my feature and everything was great. And then I pushed it up into a pull request, and everything was great, and CI passed. And I got it onto staging, and everything was very sad. So then I started on the adventure of like, what is going on here? It turns out that somewhere between version 0.21.1 of Axios and 0.23.0, which there's a bunch of things about those version numbers that make me uncomfortable but here we are, somehow the behavior where you can configure the XSRF header name, which is what they're calling it on their side, the configuration stopped working. And so our override that says this is what our CSRF or XSRF token should be called when it's sent back up to the server in a header that was getting lost. And so they were falling back to their default name, Axios was. And, therefore, Rails was like, "There's no CSRF token here. So this is going to be a no for me. I'm going to reject all of the requests." So the fix was relatively easy to roll back and to pin the version of Axios to the previous version that we had been using. I didn't actually intend to upgrade it. I just intended to make it an explicit dependency. But by doing that, I accidentally upgraded it. I don't love that there was this pretty deep breakage in that. I haven't done the good work of trying to open an issue. I still want to scan through and see if there is an open issue or a conversation around this before I start making any noise. But I think if I don't find anything, this is the sort of thing that should be reported because I can't imagine I'm the only one running into this. Likewise, I was very sad that my test suite did not find this. Turns out in Rails, CSRF protection is just turned off in test mode, which may be overall makes sense. But for feature specs, in particular, I definitely want to have it. And so, it was nice that I was able to find the relevant configuration. And we introduced an RSpec configuration that says, "If it's a feature spec, save off the existing configuration and enable CSRF. And then after the spec, go back to whatever the previous was." So now all feature specs run with CSRF. And I did make sure to push up that as a singular change to CI, and CI was very unhappy with me. Many, many features-specs failed, which was good. That was what we were going for. They failed for the right reason because things were fundamentally broken. And then, I was able to update the package-lock or the package.json on the yarn lock, pin the version, fix everything. But man, there was this period of like, oh man, the app is broken in such a fundamental way. Users just can't do stuff anymore. They can view anything, but they couldn't change any data. And it just snuck through CI. And that feeling is the worst feeling. We had, at this point, built up a lot of trust in our test suite. It was really telling us when stuff was wrong, and if it was green, I felt very good merging. And suddenly, this just really shook me to my core on that front. STEPH: I love these journeys that you take us on. I mean, they're painful for you, and I am sorry to hear that. But I love these journeys that you take us on. [chuckles] CHRIS: I usually only take us on them when I've figured out the answer. And I'm like, all right, here's where we're at. It was rough for a little while, but now we are happy. And thankfully, the one configuration of saying, hey, Rails, also, please include this as part of our production like, configuration for test mode. So I feel better that moving forward, this breakage won't happen again. STEPH: We should add that as another merit badge for telling a bug story. All right, I'm taking off my hat of chief of fun and cuteness. So this may not be terribly relevant to all the things that you just shared. But I am curious where you mentioned that with Axios because you'd specified the name of the token, and then that overriding behavior is what then broke. And so then that's what led to this whole adventure that you went on. I'm curious, why did y'all customize the name of that token? CHRIS: A, this is a great question. B, I'm not super sure. C, I think the reason is because we were trying to align to Rails. So we have a little middleware on the Rails side that will serialize the CSRF token into a cookie. And then that cookie value gets read by Axios and sent back up as a header on the request. So this is the way that with Inertia CSRF just kind of works and is good. And it's different than Rails' normal. We put a hidden input into any form. And so Rails holistically knows about both sides of that, and everything works fine. But now I have to manually round trip the CSRF token. And Axio's default configuration is a header name X-XSRF-TOKEN, and we needed X-CSRF-TOKEN because that's what Rails is looking for. I probably could have configured it the other way on the Rails side. But one way or another, I had to get Rails and Axios to come to an agreement, to meet at a table, and to agree to collectively protect the app. And so I had to mediate that discussion, and that's what ended us here. STEPH: A meeting of the minds. [chuckles] Cool, cool, cool. Yeah, that makes sense. I was just curious because then that would have changed the whole journey. But yeah, that is super interesting. And I definitely resonate with the idea of when you've really invested in your test suite, and you trust it that then when it doesn't catch something that obviously breaks the application, then that feels like something worth prioritizing and digging into and then figuring out how to bring back that parity. I don't know that I've turned on enable CSRF for feature spec. So I'm also very interested in looking at that configuration and considering if I need that for any of my future client projects if that's something that I need to remember for the future because that's very niche but good to know about. CHRIS: I feel like this only really comes up if you're working in the...it's called the odd middle ground that Inertia ends up occupying. If you're in a traditional Rails app that is generating HTML server-side, forms are generated. They got the CSRF token inlined there in a hidden input. And then when you post that form, it's coming back up. The names automatically are going to match. You don't need to worry about it. And it's probably fine to not have it included in test mode. And if you're at the other end of the spectrum and you've got API interaction, and that's the way you're doing everything, then you have a different auth mechanism and cookies, and whatnot just don't apply in the same way. And so it won't really matter on that side but for a different reason. And it's only because we're in this interesting middle ground, which, again, I really love. And it's the thing that I love about Inertia. But this is a rare case where it's like, oh, we do have to bring the two sides to meet in the middle. And this is a case where, unfortunately, due to a very subtle breakage on a minor release of...a package that we're using silently broke so, yeah. But yeah, thankfully, everything is back to working. And again, we've been able to enhance the test suite in that little way that I feel confident again because this won't sneak in another time. We have coverage around this. We're good to go. So while I was very scared when this initially happened, I feel better now. I'm happy to go into the weekend feeling better about this. But that's my story. What's new in your world? STEPH: So I feel like I've been having one of those weeks where I have less code adventures. In fact, it's one of those days where I went to thoughtbot's daily sync...because we often have our client daily syncs, but then we still have a thoughtbot sync as well. And I went to the group, and I was like, I get to write code today. It's going to be a great day. All the other things I'm doing are also interesting, but I get particularly excited when I get some maker's time and get to write some code. So I feel like I've had less coding adventures recently and more hiring and process-related adventures. And specifically, I just completed the Plucky Manager Training, which is a program that's founded and led by Jen Dary, who was recently on thoughbot's podcast, The Giant Robots Smashing Into Other Giant Robots. I'll be sure to include a link in the show notes for anyone that's interested. CHRIS: I believe this was the third time she was on. It's at least the second, possibly the third. And all of them are great listens, just as an aside, so we should include links to all of them. STEPH: Yes, I think she's one of the rare guests that has been on the show three times. And I think I've only listened to the first couple minutes of that episode. But I think they talk about the fact that this is her third episode, which is really, really cool. And I'm still frankly synthesizing all the information and the ideas that I've collected from the course. But I do have a few quick takes that I'm interested in sharing with you. So the first one is my cohort...we were the Panda Cohort, so go, Pandas. And some of the things that we talked about were…, and I think that this may have been the first day. So it was three days, and it was three hours for those three days. And they're spread out over a couple of weeks, which is really nice because then you show up for those three hours of the class, but then you leave with some ideas and some things to experiment with. You get a week to then try out an experiment and then come back to class next time and talk about this is how it went; it went to wonderful, or it went terrible. And you get to share that with others and work through it. And in the first class, we talked about coaching versus managing, which I found just a helpful definition to review. So managing is more direct, and telling someone what to do while coaching is encouraging someone to determine their own path and find their own solution. And I find that as a team lead at thoughtbot, I'm very often more in that coaching space than I am in that managing space. I think it's frankly pretty rare that I actually need to put on a manager's hat. And I often feel like I'm wearing my coaching hat instead. And some of the other things we talked about one of them is what is work? Which is a fun question to ask. And Jen had an analogy for this speaking about imagine that you have a plastic Easter egg. So it's got two sides, and side one is all the skills and desires and things that you're fulfilled by. And side two is a company that needs those skills. And it's great when those line up and click together, like when you take a job or get a promotion. Have you ever played...do you know what I'm talking about? Those little plastic Easter eggs. Have you ever played with those as a kid? CHRIS: Yes, certainly. STEPH: [laughs] I realize I just launched into that analogy. [chuckles] And then Jen goes on to say that's totally normal for then those sides to unclick. And Jen continues to say that it's totally normal for them to unclick. So maybe the company changes direction, the company is acquired. You've fallen out of love with something that you do about your job, or you have kids, and that has changed the things that you are fulfilled by and what you're looking for. And that's not necessarily bad. So it can be like, hey, you are working on x now, and you're not fulfilled by that anymore. But then another company comes along and says, "Hey, we're working on this, and you are fulfilled by that." So then another click happens. And essentially, it's a nice analogy to represent someone's career path and the ways that we are going to shift and re-prioritize what we're interested in. But it's also a really nice way to help it feel less personal because both sides are allowed to change. The company can change. You, as an employee, can change. And then you can look for that next click that is going to match up with a company that meets your skills and things that help you feel fulfilled. One of the other topics that we talked about are hard conversations, which I love that we dug into this one because that's certainly one that I struggle with or...I mean, we all get that feeling if you have to confront someone if you have to have that uncomfortable discussion with someone. It is a very hard thing to do. And so we had some very honest conversations around what is a hard conversation? What does that represent? And essentially, they represent that there is stalled progress and something can be improved. So Jen likens a hard conversation to a tool. It's something that you can use to then help something move forward again if something feels stalled or if there's something that needs to change. And during those hard conversations, you may not get to the resolution that you're looking for. So you may be looking for a specific outcome. But you also have another person that needs time to respond and to take in everything that you have said and process that information. So when you have a hard conversation, you may actually only move forward an inch. So if you had a lofty goal of we're going to talk and then we're going to have this hard conversation, and we're going to get to this space...But instead, you actually just make incremental progress. Like, okay, at least this person is now aware of this concern. That might be your win for the hard conversation versus actually tackling; how are we going to address it? I just want them to be aware of this concern. And it's a very vulnerable conversation, and they often take time before you can get to that ideal resolution. But essentially, the idea is get in the game, start the conversation, and then have follow-up conversations for that hard conversation. And I really appreciated that framing because I often will think of hard conversations of oh, we have to have this hard conversation and get to this specific outcome. But if you shift the goal line to be like, no, I really just need to at least make this person aware of a concern, that makes it a lot more approachable. And then also probably yields more fruitful outcomes because that gives the other person time to think about what you've shared to also come to the table with their own ideas and then work together to then get to that ideal resolution. CHRIS: I like that framing a lot. I can definitely see the case where you, as someone who has recognized something that needs to change (perhaps you're a manager),lineup you've now thought about that a good bit; you've observed it, but the individual that you're bringing that to this may be novel. This may be a surprise for them. And so if you come into that interaction both about to share this information but then also trying to resolve it and trying to get to I need you to internalize it, and I need you to fundamentally change your behavior as a result of this conversation we're going to have, that's quite possibly not a realistic outcome. And if you're trying for that, it might inherently lead to just a bad outcome because that individual is not in a position to do that. But they are potentially ready to hear it. And so you can just achieve step one and then later have step two. So I like that a lot. STEPH: Yeah, in general, I found the course incredibly helpful, very insightful. It was also really nice to hear from other managers that are facing similar problems or perhaps novel problems and then getting to weigh in and help each other. So it's a wonderful course. I'll be sure to include a link in the show notes for anyone that is interested. And I'll probably come back with some more insights from the class because it's really...we just wrapped up. So I'm sure I still have some ideas that will percolate over time, and I want to come back and share those with the group. Mid-roll Ad And now a quick break to hear from today's sponsor, Scout APM. Scout APM is leading-edge application performance monitoring that's designed to help Rails developers quickly find and fix performance issues without having to deal with the headache or overhead of enterprise platform feature bloat. With a developer-centric UI and tracing logic that ties bottlenecks to source code, you can quickly pinpoint and resolve those performance abnormalities like N+1 queries, slow database queries, memory bloat, and much more. Scout's real-time alerting and weekly digest emails let you rest easy knowing Scout's on watch and resolving performance issues before your customers ever see them. Scout has also launched its new error monitoring feature add-on for Python applications. Now you can connect your error reporting and application monitoring data on one platform. See for yourself why developers call Scout their best friend and try our error monitoring and APM free for 14 days; no credit card needed. And as an added-on bonus for Bike Shed listeners, Scout will donate $5 to the open-source project of your choice when you deploy. Learn more at scoutapm.com/bikeshed. That's scoutapm.com/bikeshed. STEPH: Pivoting just a bit, we have a listener question that I'm excited to dive into. This question comes from the one and only, the Edward Loveall, fellow thoughtboter. And Edward wrote in, "How does the process of software development change at different team sizes? What's a process that breaks down soon after the team starts growing? What's a process that is resilient at all sizes? And by process, I mean anything that involves other people including organizing tasks, code review, deployment, or anything else that isn't you alone writing code in a vacuum." I'm really excited about this question because I think there's a lot here. And there's actually one part that I'm struggling with a bit, so I'm curious to see what you think, Chris, about it. But I'm going to start off with saying that I think there are a number of management processes that definitely break down as a team grows. But in the spirit of Edward's question, I'm going to focus more on the software development process and how those might need to change and what starts to break as your team grows. So starting off with processes that break after the team starts growing, this one, frankly, what really starts to break is not a process specifically, but it's the lack of process that really starts to become visible and painful. So, how do we track work? Before, maybe the product manager or someone would just send you a message and say, "Hey, can you work on this?" or "Hey, can you fix this thing?" And how does code need to be reviewed before being merged? Does it need to be reviewed? Are people just merging as they get stuff done? How are deploys performed? Oh, we have a super urgent production fix that needs to go out, and the only person that knows how to deploy is out sick today? Cool. That's the type of process that I think that really breaks down, or at least you start to notice when the team starts to grow. What are your thoughts? CHRIS: I definitely feel that first one very strongly. We're feeling it right now on the team, which is still very small. There are only three developers working on the project, and then we have a product manager. And each week, we're slowly iterating, and tweaking, and honing, and trying to introduce just enough process in terms of how we define the work to be done, communicate the status of it, all of that fun stuff. We started with Trello. And we just had a board with some columns, and then we had more columns, and then we got rid of a few of them. And then we recently added a Power-Up to the Trello board, which allows for epics. So there are cards which are epics which tie to sub cards. And I'm staring at it, and I'm like, how long until we're Jira? How long can I hold out here and not be Jira? But it does feel like we're slowly iterating towards a more useful process for this team rather than process for process' sake, which I feel like is a really useful distinction. There's also a question of like, what can be known or what can be adequately measured and whatnot versus what can't be? So we've talked many a time on the show about estimation and velocity and trying to track that and the pitfalls inherent with that. And so there's, in my mind, two different camps. There's the process we want to avoid. And again, to reference German Velasco's wonderful blog post, Say No To More Process. And I really feel like there is a tendency often when things go wrong to then try and paper over that with process. Oh, this team didn't use the design system. So we need to write ESLint rules to make sure you can't import from the directories that aren't the thing. And it's like, we can do that, and I've definitely done that. And I will do that again in the future. But I always have the lens of do we need this? Is it worth the trade-off, the cost, the overhead, the complexity that it's bringing in? But definitely, organizing and communicating tasks is one of the ones that becomes really difficult. The more people that are working on something, the more you need probably more than one person staying out in front of them and trying to define the next bit of work that needs to be done after that. Code review feels like it probably should stay similar, with the exception that I lose the ability to review all code at some point. Right now, I'm trying to review every single PR that goes through or close to it. At some point, I'm just going to have to give up on that. But for now, that's my goal. But fundamentally, code review, I think, will hopefully take the same shape. Deployment, similarly, like, I've talked about the merge queue thing. I want to get a little bit of process in there but not too much. There is definitely some necessity for change. But I definitely want to resist the urge to change everything and to just say, like, slowly over time; we're going to have to be a big Byzantine organization with lots of rules and standard operating procedures and all of that. I've heard anecdotally, and I don't know if this is true, so maybe someone out there on the internet can correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that at Google, they're pretty tight in terms of what languages and frameworks can be used and what processes, and workflows, and build tools and all of that whereas Facebook, as a counterpoint, is relatively lax. Obviously, React is used very heavily on the core web application. But there's some flexibility in terms of different languages and frameworks and things for sub-projects or small individual teams having a little bit more autonomy. And I think that's a really interesting thing of are you one large, cohesive, organized company or do you try to act like a bunch of small disparate but roughly connected teams that share good ideas but can work independently? And that changes how I would think about this question. STEPH: I really like how you're describing the addition of process. It sounds like a just-in-time process. So as you're learning that something needs to be added, then that's when you look for answers. And then you sprinkle on a bit of process that everyone agrees that feels very helpful within also the right to review and see if that still makes sense for the team. There's one additional area where I think the lack of process really shines through in addition to the number of ways that you've mentioned is also onboarding. So if you have a very small team and you are onboarding, it's likely that...Chris, you can let me know if I'm wrong, but when someone's joining the team, there's probably a good chance that they get to pair with you at some point, or they even get welcomed by you to the team. And then, they get an overview of the product and the codebase. And there's probably this really nice session where they get to ask you questions, and then they have that onboarding session. Does that sound about right? CHRIS: Yes. But I would go so far as to say it's not just a day or a session, but it's probably a couple of days. So yes, and. STEPH: That's even better. And with some of the smaller teams that I've seen, that onboarding process is where they are pairing with that lead person on the team. And that's going well until suddenly that lead person can't pair with everybody. And nobody has really thought about how to streamline that onboarding or how to coach or teach someone else to be a really good onboarding pair. And I have strong feelings about this area because we often focus so much on hiring, but then we drop the ball when it comes to onboarding that new, wonderful colleague that we've worked so hard to recruit. And at the end of that day, someone's going to reach out to them and say, "Hey, how was your first day?" And it makes a big difference for that person's retention as to how those first couple of days ago. So I think onboarding is another really important part that when you're a smaller team, you probably don't need much process because you have more of that personable onboarding experience. But as the team grows, there needs to be more of a process to help other teammates join the team. CHRIS: It's interesting. I think I totally agree with you that over time, there is a necessity to be more intentional and to have a little bit more structure in the process. And I don't think you're saying this, but I just want to make sure we are saying the thing that I think we believe, which is that shouldn't replace the human that helps you onboard. Like, I still like the idea that everybody gets a pair for some amount of time when they start at a new company. And you're working together on a feature, or you're working together on bug fixes. You're shipping to production as soon as possible. But you're not doing that based on some guides in a wiki. You're doing that with another human that's helping you. There should also be guides, and a wiki, and documentation, and formalization as the organization grows but not in place of having another person that you get to talk to. STEPH: We're just going to send you a little yellow rubber duck and then with a little Post-It note that says, "Good luck [laughs] with your onboarding process." Definitely. I agree with everything you said. It does not replace that human element where there's someone that's helping you onboard. I just see that onboarding is one of those things that gets forgotten, or we often point someone to a README which I do think is great because then it is battle-testing our README. But then there still needs to be someone that is readily there to say, "Hey, how's it going? What are you struggling with? Can I pair with you?" There still has to be that human element that is helping guide you through the process. And I think smaller teams may forget that they actually need to assign somebody to you to make sure that you have someone that you know. Like, hey, this is who I can reach out to with all my questions. Because they're probably not going to be comfortable posting in the company channel at that point or a larger communication to say, "Hey, I'm stuck on something." CHRIS: There's one other area that comes to mind, or I guess it's more of an anecdote that I have heard, but it speaks back to GitHub's early, early days. And they were somewhat famous for being very flat in terms of the organization and very self-organized, and everybody's figuring it out, and you're working on the thing that's most important in your mind. And for a long time, this was a celebrated facet of the company and a thing that they talked about rather publicly. And then I think there was this collective recognition, and maybe they reached a tipping point where that just didn't work anymore. Or maybe it actually hadn't been working for a bit, and there was just the collective realization of that. But it was interesting to watch from the outside as GitHub added more formalization, more structure, more managers, and hierarchy, and career ladders, and things of that nature. And I think there's a way to do all of those things in a complicated, overloaded, heavy way. But I think a different version of it is...like, you were using the word coaching earlier. Having formal structures within your organization to encourage people on their career path, to help them grow, to have structure around that, I think is a really difficult thing to get right. But I think it is critical, and I think just not having it can't be the answer past a certain probably pretty small size. So that is an interesting one where I think you do need to introduce some process and formalization around how you think about the group of people and how they work together within your organization. STEPH: I agree. I think where some folks may see a lack of hierarchy; others feel a lack of support. And adding levels of management should really be focused on the outcome is that we're helping people feel supported. So even getting feedback as you're adding those different levels of management, like, hey, did we make your life better? Did we make your life worse? I think that's a great question for management to ask as they're exploring a less flat structure. CHRIS: So, Steph, I have a question for you now on a variant of this topic. In general, we seem to be fans of having a codebase. Probably a Rails app that's got a database behind it, and that's where you put the data. Everybody commits to that same repository. It's all kind of one collected thing. And often, organizations grow to a certain size, and they're like, this is untenable. We cannot have this many people working on this same codebase. So we shall do the logical thing, which is we will break it up into small pieces. And those pieces will communicate over HTTP, and it will be great because then our teams can be separate from each other and can manage their little piece of the world. What do you think about that? Is there truth there? Is it not true at all? What do you think? STEPH: All right, so your team is getting too big, and to the point that you feel like you need to split it out so then you can have small teams, and they can all work independently on different parts and services of the codebase. I don't love the idea. I'm trying to think through because I feel like there's a lot of nuance here. But I don't love the idea that that's the driving force as to why are we making the change? And that is often a question that comes to mind whenever we are making a big change, either architecture or process-related is like, what's driving this? And then how are we going to measure it? And if we are driving it just because we have a large team, let's talk more. Why are people blocked? Why can't people work together? What's preventing people from being able to contribute to the same codebase? Are people blocked for a long time because they're having to wait on someone else to complete that work? I have a lot of questions that I don't know if I can fully answer your question. But my instinct is to say let's not break up the architecture just because our team grew in size. CHRIS: Yeah, I think I definitely agree with that. There's probably a breaking point where it's just too many individuals, and there'll be too much contention. But I think resisting that or at least naming that as like, okay, that's what we're saying but is that really what's true? Or are we actually feeling that this system is so deeply coupled that there's no way to change some small piece of the code without impacting other parts of it? Like, is the CSS completely untenable because we're just using global class names, and it's leaking everywhere? Okay, do we need a different solution there? And then it's actually fine. We don't need to have different services that have their own different style sheets. We just need a different approach to CSS. That's a particularly easy one to go for because there's inherently a global namespace there. But the same thing is true in a lot of different contexts. So services are a way to break things apart and enforce those boundaries. But if inherently coupling is your problem, then you're just going to be coupled over HTTP, and I think it's going to be difficult. There's a wonderful blog post by Josh Clayton, which I think does a better job than I'm doing in this moment of highlighting some of the questions I would want to ask. The blog post is titled Services are Not a Silver Bullet. And so Josh goes through and enumerates a bunch of the different versions of the story that he's heard throughout the years of well, we need to go to services because x, because our test suite is slow because pull requests are constantly having merge conflicts and whatnot, because the code is very deeply coupled and any change here affects everything else. And a fix over here broke something over there. This is no good. And so he does a really good job of presenting alternatives or at least questions that you can ask to say, like, is this the problem, or is this a symptom? And we need to address the more underlying cause. And so I think there is a point where you just can't have 1,000 people trying to commit to the same Rails codebase. That feels like it's maybe too big. But it takes a while to get to 1,000 people. And there will be times where extracting a service makes sense or integrating with an external service that exists. Like, I've talked about Stripe before as my canonical like, yeah, it's actually deeply intertwined with the data model, but they're just dealing with such a distinct complexity set over there. And they have such expertise on that that I'm happy to accept the overhead of the fact that that service lives outside of my core application, and I need to deal with synchronizing state and all of that. I will take on that complexity, but it's not worth it for everything, and it's not a silver bullet. Again, to reference the name of Josh's blog post there, Services are Not a Silver Bullet. And so, coming back to Edward's original question, I would say that having a monolithic codebase works for a really long time, but there is probably a breaking point somewhere well along, but fight it for as long as you can. I think. STEPH: I really like how you touched on coupling because it really helps ask those questions to get to the heart of what are the pain points that you are feeling? And it is less of a decision that is based on people and process but more if you're going to split out a portion of your architecture. It is in response to an actual business need and a business value versus some other pain points that you're trying to fix. A particular example might be like maybe you have a portion of your application that really just needs to spend a lot of time crunching data. And it's really not as specific to your application; it's something that can happen on its own. And then it's beneficial to move that outside so it can scale and relate it to the work that it needs to perform versus keeping it in-house with the application. I do want to circle back to another question that Edward included which is what's a process that is resilient at all sizes? And the ones that really come to mind for me...and these are a bit amorphous intentionally because it will look different for each company. But three areas that are very resilient at all sizes, whether you are 1 to 2 employees versus you've got hundreds or thousands it's communication, testing, and accountability. So communication, where are we headed, and how do we know what we're working on? For testing, it's how do we test our changes? Do we write tests? Do we use QA? Do we have a staging environment? What does that look like? What's our parity between staging and production? And then how do we know what's in progress, and how do we know when it's done? Those are three core areas that, regardless of your team size,,I think are very crucial to the team success. What do you think? What are some of the processes that are resilient at all sizes? CHRIS: I actually really like the list that you just provided. That is a wonderful trifecta, and I think it will take you very far, so probably not much to add from me. But I guess on that note, should we wrap up? STEPH: Let's wrap up. CHRIS: The show notes for this episode can be found at bikeshed.fm. STEPH: This show is produced and edited by Mandy Moore. CHRIS: If you enjoyed listening, one really easy way to support the show is to leave us a quick rating or even a review in iTunes, as it really helps other folks find the show. STEPH: If you have any feedback for this or any of our other episodes, you can reach us at @_bikeshed or reach me on Twitter @SViccari. CHRIS: And I'm @christoomey STEPH: Or you can reach us at email@example.com via email. CHRIS: Thanks so much for listening to The Bike Shed, and we'll see you next week. All: Byeeeeeeeeeee! Announcer: This podcast was brought to you by thoughtbot. thoughtbot is your expert design and development partner. Let's make your product and team a success.
"There are no such things as werewolves!" Hello and welcome to the spooky season with episode 58 of Once Upon a Nightmare. In this episode I discuss Silver Bullet (Daniel Attias, 1985) Thank you for listening and don't forget to rate and review on iTunes. For updates, reviews and behind the scenes info follow via one or all of the below options: Instagram – @onceuponanightmarepodcast Twitter - @anightmarepod Facebook - Once Upon a Nightmare Email - firstname.lastname@example.org Part of the Podbreed Network:https://www.podbreed.com/ ( https://www.podbreed.com/) Music by: Darren Curtis Music Pay the Reaper -https://www.darrencurtismusic.com/dark-music ( https://www.darrencurtismusic.com/dark-music) https://www.free-stock-music.com/darren-curtis-pay-the-reaper.html (https://www.free-stock-music.com/darren-curtis-pay-the-reaper.html) Sources Production Company: https://www.imdb.com/company/co0014380?ref_=ttco_co_1 (Dino De Laurentiis Company) Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1dClCykQys
Our expert host, David M. Brear, is joined by some great guests to take a deep dive into all things Agile. What is it? What are the pros and cons? Where does Agile fit into day-to-day operations? What do other solutions offer, what does the future look like, and what advice can our panel give to companies looking to scale with Agile? This week's guests include: Deepa Anikhindi, Lead Product Manager, 11:FS Alexa Guenoun, Chief Operating Officer, Temenos Lars Trunin, Head of UK Product, Wise All of this and much more on today's episode! This episode is sponsored by Temenos. Temenos is the world leader in banking software, serving over 3,000 financial institutions. SCALE 2021 is Temenos' dedicated, virtual developer event, including: insights from industry leaders on current technology trends and how they impact banking; customer presentations; product demonstrations and road-map sessions and opportunities to speak with Temenos experts. Whether you're a developer, consultant or business user, discover the latest technology opportunities and how this can help you deliver bigger, better, faster. Register to attend here. (https://tem.mn/3jYLZlm) This episode is sponsored by LetsDeel. There's a better way to hire internationally, and it starts with Deel. Everything from contract creation, record keeping, payments, and full-time employment is all in one place for teams all over the world. Companies anywhere can hire compliantly everywhere thanks to Deel. It's payroll and compliance built for today's worldwide workforce. To learn more, visit letsdeel/11fs (https://www.letsdeel.com/11fs), and redeem an exclusive offer of 3 months free when you hire a contractor and 20% for your first year when you hire an employee. This episode is sponsored by Blueshift Customers expect more from their digital experience and their personal finance is no exception. Blueshift empowers fintech and financial institutions to create secure customer profiles and intentional, relevant experiences for customers. Whether in app, on site, in branch, or anywhere else, Blueshift's SmartHub CDP helps brands like Lending Tree and ClearScore turn data into personalized experiences that increase retention, satisfaction, and revenue. Learn more about the Blueshift at blueshift.com/11fs. Fintech Insider by 11:FS is a podcast dedicated to all things fintech, banking, technology and financial services. Hosted by a rotation of 11:FS experts including David Brear, Simon Taylor, Jason Bates and Sarah Kocianski and joined by a range of brilliant guests, we cover the latest global news, bring you interviews from industry experts or take a deep dive into subject matters such as APIs, AI or digital banking. If you enjoyed this episode, don't forget to subscribe and please leave a review Follow us on Twitter: www.twitter.com/fintechinsiders where you can ask the hosts questions, alternatively email email@example.com! Special Guests: Alexa Guenoun, Deepa Anikhindi, and Lars Trunin .
On this episode, Matt is joined once again by his friend Hayden Gilbert, as they discuss two '80s werewolf movies, The Howling and Silver Bullet! Before discussing those two movies, Matt and Hayden start by talking about what they've watched lately, they have a spoiler free discussion about Halloween Kills, and they talk all about werewolf movies in general and some of their favorite things about them. Just a heads up, there will be spoilers for The Howling and Silver Bullet, and if you want to jump right to that conversation, that begins around the hour and 45 minute mark.
We're continuing our conversation on inflation, this time through the lens of cryptocurrency to understand if it actually is the safe haven to inflation that many seem to think it is. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.
After rallying from a coordinated surprise attack and mutiny to an overwhelming victory, the Captain's Council of The Uhuru and Orimar Vale specifically, have an important decision to make: What should they do with their contoured adversaries? This was a calculated attack, Uhuru lives were lost. They cannot appear weak. At the same time, The Silver Bullet is a corsair ship, even if they are not with The Tempest Armada they attack with less malice and brutality than Red Feathers. Orimar looks to his past to find what sort of captain he needs to be right now. CONTENT NOTEMain Show: Body horror, betrayal, discussion of punishment and treatment of prisonersDear Uhuru: I honestly think this one might make people too happy? More than a reasonable amount of mentions for "terminal diarrhea."SUPPORT OSN SHOWSThe Audioverse AwardsDiscover PodsTHE ULTIMATE RPG GUIDE SERIESGet the Worldbuilding Guide!Get the Gameplay GuideGet the Backstory GuideGet the Micro RPG BookSkyjacks Setting Zine Volume 1Skyjacks AlbumJoin Our Mailing ListBuy A Different Bird Shirt
The Movie Show with Joel & Ryan welcome back Michael and Rob to the show to talk about a set of scary movie double features! Night of the Demon, Burn Witch Burn, Black Christmas, When a Stranger Calls, Wolfen, The Hunger, Silver Bullet, and Werewolves Within are all on the agenda. Check in and share yours @askjoelandryan
Howl goes it y'all! Haha, a little wolf humor there. On this new episode Sho'nuff Shaun, Great Scott and Mr. Rysk all join me to talk about the movie Silver Bullet. We go in on this one and ask the question...Is there such a thing as a were-bear? All that and more on Vol. 3 of our Horror Month where we tackled Vampires, Ghosts and now Werewolves. Check it out now! *released the weekend of 10/15/2021
Submit your real life ghost story by October 19th! Send to firstname.lastname@example.org! Latest Sauvage Commercial that will make you howlEmily and her coworkers dressed as “Business Cats” See for yourself just how serious Jeff takes Halloween Listen to all of Jeff's original, face-melting tunes! AND you can also listen to all of Jeff's Tunes on SOUNDCLOUDSubscribe to our YOUTUBE CHANNEL! Have Questions? Send yours to email@example.com!
Comedian MTG on YouTube: youtube.com/comedianmtg cEDH Metagame Project: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VoquL_RTFhNPb2JcG7uHLKfFIp2ib_DvaTyIQND--r8/edit (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VoquL_RTFhNPb2JcG7uHLKfFIp2ib_DvaTyIQND--r8/edit) .::=== SUPPORT LINKS ===::. TCGPlayer: https://bit.ly/PWP-TCGPlayer (https://bit.ly/PWP-TCGPlayer) Patreon: http://bit.ly/PWP-Patreon Merch: https://bit.ly/PWP-Merchandise (https://bit.ly/PWP-Merchandise) Twitter: http://bit.ly/PWP-Twitter (http://bit.ly/PWP-Twitter) Facebook: http://bit.ly/PWP-FB (http://bit.ly/PWP-FB)
Even with the enemy ship disabled, the battle is far from over. Jonnit, Jane, and Pliff square off against the last wave of birds sent by The Silver Bullet in an attempt to capture the featherweave jettisoned by the Rowdy R's. Meanwhile Orimar and Travis battle the remnants of the Rs in the cargo hold. Even with reinforcements, battle is uncertain and good people can lose their lives. Gable steps in to save their precious baby birds.CONTENT NOTEMain Show: Violence, Gunshot sound effects, blood, bones braking, body-horror, character death, religious imageryDear Uhuru: Colonialism, Nicolas CageSUPPORT OSN SHOWSThe Audioverse AwardsDiscover PodsTHE ULTIMATE RPG GUIDE SERIESGet the Worldbuilding Guide!Get the Gameplay GuideGet the Backstory GuideGet the Micro RPG BookSkyjacks Setting Zine Volume 1Skyjacks AlbumJoin Our Mailing ListBuy A Different Bird Shirt
Night nine of 31 Nights of Frights brings us to the cult favorite, Silver Bullet. With a screenplay written by Stephen King & adapted this from his own novella, Cycle of the Werewolf, this one winds up being an odd mix of the sentimentality of some of his more dramatic works crossed with some surprising violent deaths. Does this unique feel work for this movie & is it an essential one worthy of your time? Have a listen to night nine to find out!! --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/adamanalyzes/support
Michelle and I sat down to discuss what this year looks like moving into the Holiday season. We'll check in together on where we are now...hint, it's pretty tired already. We discuss why the holiday season is so stressful for us. What the usual stress triggers can be. How they show up for us and some tricks we have learned over the years to combat them. We also discuss expectations for the season, setting better boundaries, and our SILVER BULLET for claiming your desired holiday season. Some Holiday Season Stats: 90% of parents feel the holidays are more stressful than they should be. 70% already feel behind before November begins. 80% believe if they had a plan by the end of October the holidays would be less stressful. 75% of parents end the year burned out. Want more info on our taking back your holiday this season? Join us here: https://bit.ly/wmpholidaychallenge
As a bonus for joining our $10 tier on our Patreon Page Donnie Roberts of Videorama Podcast gets to host an episode on any topic he wants, and this time we are discussing werewolves as we cover Stephen King's Silver Bullet Ad Spots by Film Rage The Great Pop Culture Debate --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/cinemarecall/support
Jonnit tries to right himself after dealing a devastating blow to the Silver Bullet, but the fight still isn't over as the Rowdy Rs have managed to push the remaining Civility featherweave out of The Uhuru's cargo doors– and deployed griffins to capture it. Thankfully Jane and Pliff have finally managed to launch Flea and Lucas to join the fray. Orimar is now surrounded by Rowdy Rs who realized they have no exit. Thankfully as the captain, he can call for backup.CONTENT NOTEMain Show: Probably too much piss content in the cold open TBH, gunshot sound effects, violence, bodyhorrorDear Uhuru: Dear Uhuru to return next week!THE ULTIMATE RPG GUIDE SERIESGet the Worldbuilding Guide!Get the Gameplay GuideGet the Backstory GuideGet the Micro RPG BookSkyjacks Setting Zine Volume 1Skyjacks AlbumJoin Our Mailing ListBuy A Different Bird Shirt
In honor of Spooky Season I'm counting down my 31 favorite horror films of the 1980s. If you're big into the genre, this list may seem pretty safe - as there aren't too many deep cuts... if you're a casual fan this is the list for you! And if you don't like scary movies at all, you may just wanna skip this one. Or don't - it'll make me sad. This episode is pretty straightforward, with a few of my occasional neurotic moments popping by to say hello. Enjoy! Or try to. :) Edit 10/4/21 *Due to the overwhelming support I received over this installment, I'll be expending on my thoughts on films from this list in blog form. Please be patient, as it'll take time to get this completed. In the interim, here are the trailers for these films. 31. The Gate (trailer - 1987) 30. The Hitcher (trailer - 1986) 29. Maximum Overdrive (trailer - 1986) 28. The Blob (trailer - 1988) 27. Return of the Living Dead (trailer - 1985) 26. House (trailer 1986) 25. Christine (trailer - 1983) 24. April Fool's Day (trailer - 1986) 23. Child's Play (trailer - 1988) 22. Videodrome (trailer - 1983) 21. Silver Bullet (trailer - 1985) 20. Near Dark (trailer - 1987) 19. Night of the Comet (trailer - 1984) 18. Halloween 3: Season of the Witch (trailer - 1982) 17. Re-Animator (trailer - 1985) 16. Day of the Dead (trailer - 1985) 15. The Monster Squad (trailer - 1987) 14. Gremlins (trailer - 1984) 13. Pet Sematary (trailer - 1989) 12. Friday the 13th (trailer - 1980) 11. Hellraiser (trailer - 1987) 10. Creepshow (trailer - 1982) 9. The Fly (trailer - 1986) 8. The Lost Boys (trailer - 1987) 7. Fright Night (trailer - 1985) 6. An American Werewolf in London (trailer - 1981) 5. Evil Dead (trailer - 1981) 4. A Nightmare on Elm Street (trailer - 1984) 3. The Thing (trailer - 1982) 2. Poltergeist (1982) 1. The Shining (1980)
There's a time and a place for a rebrand. But changing the organization's logo isn't the silver bullet we think it is.In this episode, we're welcoming back Connie Glover, Senior Marketing Manager at Trava, and Principal Owner of CMarie Marketing Studio. Connie is an accomplished marketing communications, PR, and sales leader who has an impressive career bringing visibility to companies and brands to life. We're talking about why logos aren't exactly a rebrand, examples of good rebrands (and ones that missed the mark), how to determine when you should rebrand, and so much more.Resource mentioned:Trava: https://www.travasecurity.com
Midway through week one and we land on one of my personal favorites, Silver Bullet! This has everything. One of the Coreys, a werewolf, Ed from Twin Peaks, the old guy from Reservoir Dogs, fireworks, and more! This is a terrific addition o your Halloween list if you happen to be a specific audience. Namely, me. I think you can hear my enthusiasm for this one, and I hope you catch some of that excitement! Hope you enjoy this, and come back each and every day for a new movie. Also, join the discussion on our Facebook group, Twitter, or Instagram. You can hear the show exclusively on Legion Podcasts, so be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Google, Spotify, Android, Pandora, iHeartRadio, Stitcher, Podchaser, or wherever podcasts are found.
Midway through week one and we land on one of my personal favorites, Silver Bullet! This has everything. One of the Coreys, a werewolf, Ed from Twin Peaks, the old guy from Reservoir Dogs, fireworks, and more! This is a terrific addition o your Halloween list if you happen to be a specific audience. Namely, me. I think you can hear my enthusiasm for this one, and I hope you catch some of that excitement! Hope you enjoy this, and come back each and every day for a new movie. Also, join the discussion on our Facebook group, Twitter, or Instagram. You can hear the show exclusively on Legion Podcasts, so be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Google, Spotify, Android, Pandora, iHeartRadio, Stitcher, Podchaser, or wherever podcasts are found. The post Legion Podcasts 31 Days of Halloween: Day 4 – Silver Bullet first appeared on Legion.
Thank you for joining us on Breakfast With Champions! Today we get to hear from Raylen Davis! Davis is a Sales and Mindset coach who uses his experience in combat sports to help entrepreneurs and sales teams increase their revenue through the power of mindset and Inspirational Selling!
After suffering a devastating blow to their furnaces at the hands of saboteurs who coordinated with the Rowdy Rs manipulation of the crew schedule to sneak into The Uhuru's sails the crew scramble to recover. Gable works to keep the ship aloft while giving Nodoze the chance he needs to aim the grapple. Travis continues to put down Rs while revealing more features of his Japanese! (Italian) gun. Orimar chases Rocco to the cargo room in order to claim his revenge. Jonnit turns his attention to attack The Silver Bullet in the one place the expect least: their sails. CONTENT NOTEMain Show: Explosion and scream sound effects, reference to chronic injury, cleaning tool used as a pretty gruesome chemical weaponDear Uhuru:THE ULTIMATE RPG GUIDE SERIESGet the Worldbuilding Guide!Get the Gameplay GuideGet the Backstory GuideGet the Micro RPG BookSkyjacks Setting Zine Volume 1Skyjacks AlbumJoin Our Mailing ListBuy A Different Bird Shirt
Corey Haim on the cusp of blowing up, Gary Busey at the height of his powers, a buffet (literally) of amazing character actors and more are all contained within this week's episode as we talk the polarizing "Silver Bullet", which to some is one of the best movies ever adapted from the works of Steven King and to others, was a massive disappointment. Based on the King novella, "Cycle Of The Werewolf", the SHV crew will weigh in with a variety of opinions. Also this week our musical guest courtesy of HorrorPainGoreDeath.com comes to us from Albequerque, NM with their song "Separate" off the upcoming album "This Insidious Horror", is "FEED THE CORPSES TO THE PIGS".
Jonnit pulls away from the enemy griffin riders as they chase The Uhuru and sets his sights on a counteroffensive against The Silver Bullet. Pliff through sheer determination to help the rest of the crew, pulls himself back into the ship to face the Rowdy Rs. Gable plays a dangerous game to bait the bullet into a lower altitude battle and use the dangerous waters of the river delta to their advantage. Travis and Orimar wor to pursue the Rs and their leader Rocco into the aviary. Meanwhile the crew of The Silver Bullet attempts a risky sabotage.CONTENT NOTEMain Show: Violence, knives, guns, discussion of injuries, description of heights, creepy laughing children sound effects.Tales from Tornvale: religious themes, family and legacy trauma.THE ULTIMATE RPG GUIDE SERIESGet the Worldbuilding Guide!Get the Gameplay GuideGet the Backstory GuideGet the Micro RPG BookSkyjacks Setting Zine Volume 1Skyjacks AlbumJoin Our Mailing ListBuy A Different Bird Shirt
This week we learn that good is bad, but this is also, just bad. We watched A Kid in King Arthur's Court, how do you make Kate Winslet and Daniel Craig look this bad? Join the Patreon (http://patreon.com/myopia)! There are tiers to that will help us keep doing what we are doing! (Each tier unlocks all lower tiers) What is patreon? It is our way of rewarding our biggest fans with additional stuff, like movie episodes, riffs, and our back catalog! Join now for additional stuff at $1, $3, $5, and $10! Or a one time $50 to pick your own flick! What do you unlock? The Alien Franchise: Alien, Aliens, Alien 3, Alien Resurrection, Prometheus, and Alien Covenant, the rest of Harry Potter: The Half Blood Prince, Hallows part 1 and 2, plus Silver Bullet, The Watchmen, The Lawnmower Man, Demolition Man, True Lies, Van Helsing, The 39 Steps, Baby's Day Out, The 13th Warrior, Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home, The Thomas Crown Affair, Austin Powers: International Man of Mystery, and London Has Fallen! Not to mention movie riffs and much more to come! Also, because you love us, find us everywhere! Like Facebook! Or the Facebook Fan Group! Or Twitter! Or Letterboxd! Or the Fancy Website! We are also available wherever you are too! Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn and Alexa, Podbean, Listen Notes, YouTube, everywhere! Coming soon to Pandora, iHeartRadio, and Deezer. Host: Nic Panel: Kellie, Charlie, Fitzy
Jonnit struggles to regain control of the battlefield after barely surviving getting into the air and being shot at by enemy riders. Orimar and Tarvis battle Rowdy Rs trying to use surprise to overcome being outnumbered. Gable continues evasive maneuvers diving to skim above a river delta in order to create distance between the Uhuru and The Silver Bullet. Pliff and Jane take a big risk in order to help Jonnit in the air and it has disastrous consequences (predictably for Pliff.)CONTENT NOTEMain Show: Gunshot explosion and cannon SFX, zombie body horror, referencing the bad minion memes on FacebookTales from Thornvale: This is safe for kids! Anti-capitalist kids.THE ULTIMATE RPG GUIDE SERIESGet the Worldbuilding Guide!Get the Gameplay GuideGet the Backstory GuideGet the Micro RPG BookSkyjacks Setting Zine Volume 1Skyjacks AlbumJoin Our Mailing ListBuy A Different Bird Shirt
There are no shortcuts to becoming a healthy, growing, thriving church. Instead, what we see in the churches experiencing the most success is a consistent determined commitment to ministry planning over an extended period of time. This week, Tony and Amy are making the case for strategic planning and "consistent strategic obedience" as the key to long-term health and growth. For the full episode transcript, links mentioned during the show, and to download the Leader Conversation Guide, visit this episode's Show Notes at theunstuckgroup.com/episode211. Join the Live Conversation on Social Media If you're listening on Wednesday, when the episode first releases, join the live conversation The Unstuck Group's team will be having on social media about this week's topic. We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on Twitter. Or you can join in on Facebook. Ask your questions and add your comments about the topic. If you're catching this episode later, you can still join in! Just tag us @unstuckgroup or use #unstuckchurch, and include [episode 211] in your post for reference.
Why 'Forgiving Your Enemies' Makes Weird Sense' - Part 2Full Service feat Spectral Bob RossSeason Three - Episode FourWelcome one and all, to Creepy Cove Community Church! You are most welcome to join us as we continue out look at a most intriguing idea...that the concept of loving one's enemies makes a weird sort of sense. Our church administrator Rupert Donk opens the service with some shocking news about two members of our 'Knit & Natter' group. They have fallen victim to Freddy Krueger who (as you will no doubt know by now) did NOT turn over a new leaf, despite promising to do so in the last service. So be careful out there, Covers!We are then joined by a very special guest...the ghost of legendary oil painter Bob Ross. Yes, Spectral Bob will be chatting to us about painting and his love of nature...but does his love of the natural world go too far? Join us to see what you think. Then it's over to Cora Hale, a werewolf and friend of Bob Ross, who shares a Bible reading with us...eventually. Then it's over to Peter Laws who talks to us about why loving enemies might not be as insane as it sounds. After a time of meditation and prayer, it's over to our musical guests. Matt Isaac (featuring Ben Grundy on vocals) with their rousing and spooky rendition of 'What Is The Life Of a Man'. For more on Matt, do check out his website: www.mattisaacmusic.com!At the close of the service, Rupert reveals the new artwork that Spectral Bob has been painting throughout the service...but why does Rupert seem so ashamed of the image? Thanks for listening to Creepy Cove! If you found it interesting, entertaining or helpful, would you please consider becoming a Patron. The support of Patrons is the only way we can make this! Thank you. www.patreon.com/creepycove. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/creepycove)
School's back in session, and for the first time in over a year I'm going in to campus 5 days a week, so I did something I haven't done in a while: I recorded a "silver bullet" DHP episode (meaning one recorded during my commute to work.) Join CJ as he contrasts emergent order with imposed order, with many contrasting examples of each. Support the Dangerous History Podcast via Patreon or SubscribeStar. The Dangerous History Podcast is a member of the Recorded History Podcast Network, the Dark Myths Podcast Collective & LRN.fm's podcast roster. Internal Links DHP Ep. 141: Draining the Swamp: The War on the Everglades External Links Why Fractals are so Soothing (Atlantic Article) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
#nfl #patriots #camnewton #macjones #scottzolak #gilmore #winnovich #goodell #jets #bills #dolphins #afceast #zuber #nixion #hoyer #bourne #jackson #vannoy #agholor #henry #olszewski #tailgate #silverbullet #grilling #airband #bbq #hottopics #rumors #fantasyfootball #fantasydraft #womeninsports #betonwomen #badasswomen #e2gsports #fanatics #rollpats #shawnthortonfoundation #igloo
Mark "The Shark" and Bobby congregate on the morning after Ohio State's 45-31 win at Minnesota. How did CJ Stroud look in his first start and how high is his ceiling? How did the Buckeye defense look? Anthony Schlegel jumps on from Jacksonville to talk about his late Chipotle order and diagnose problems with the Silver Bullets. ESPN's Dan Orlovsky joins the fun from the airport and the guys ask if this Cleveland Browns roster can keep it together for a Playoff Run? AJ Hawk landed in his usual Friday spot on, what did the former OSU LB think of Ohio State's talented, but raw squad?
Join Greg and Allister as they discuss introducing the "Silver Bullet" to solve problems and issues. Greg admits to "Hype Introducing" while Allister admits he needs "context and communication." Great discussions around "Good Intentions and Bad Impact" on the journey to "Hype and Happiness." website: www.talkingnotranting.com Email: firstname.lastname@example.org Greg's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/greg-smith-he-him-a8774410/ Allister's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/allisterfield/ Greg's new release-Safe Brave Spaces book: https://cutt.ly/5QWFKmn Safe Brave Spaces website: https://www.safebravespaces.com/ Safe Brave Stories Podcast: https://cutt.ly/pQn89dV
Are you trying to find the next silver bullet solution? Or are you focused on evidence-based leadership and improvement practices? Focusing on the next shiny silver bullet will often lead to organizational chaos. Today, Janet shares another way leaders can prepare their teams for change and build leadership capabilities to improve organizational systems. This episode addresses questions, such as:How can we best manage constant and continuous change?What are the fundamentals needed to manage and lead change?Why do we need to stop chasing silver bullets?Recommended Resouces: Start With an Organizational Assessment to Make Measurable Improvement in Culture, Why Organizational Change Fails & Anticipating Change Recommended Podcast Episodes: Leading Change with Creative Tension, How Can We Build Strategic Agility for Continuous Change? , Continuous Improvement: Where Do You Start? & Creating Cultures of Improvement
Taking no chances, Gable begins ordering evasive maneuvers preparing The Uhuru to battle The Silver Bullet. In the belly of the ship Jonnit finishes getting the orphans latched into safe places before rushing off to try and help. Tarvis comes to the realization that he and Orimar have unintentionally walked in on a group of rowdy Rs and they might be in danger. He scrambles for a way to warn Orimar without tipping off the mutineers.CONTENT WARNINGMain Show: Pretty extreme stress, missing an absent partner, heights and people dangling from them, betrayal.Dear Uhuru: BullyingTHE ULTIMATE RPG GUIDE SERIESGet the Worldbuilding Guide!Get the Gameplay GuideGet the Backstory GuideGet the Micro RPG BookSkyjacks Setting Zine Volume 1Skyjacks AlbumJoin Our Mailing ListBuy A Different Bird Shirt
Peter Fiske is the executive director of the National Alliance for Water Innovation (NAWI) at Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
This month Daniel tells me Ack ack aaackkkkk for 45 straight minutes, we watched Mars Attacks! How can Pierce Brosnan still be this sexy? Join the Patreon (http://patreon.com/myopia)! There are tiers to that will help us keep doing what we are doing! (Each tier unlocks all lower tiers) What is patreon? It is our way of rewarding our biggest fans with additional stuff, like movie episodes, riffs, and our back catalog! Join now for additional stuff at $1, $3, $5, and $10! Or a one time $50 to pick your own flick! What do you unlock? The Alien Franchise: Alien, Aliens, Alien 3, Alien Resurrection, Prometheus, and Alien Covenant, the rest of Harry Potter: The Half Blood Prince, Hallows part 1 and 2, plus Silver Bullet, The Watchmen, The Lawnmower Man, Demolition Man, True Lies, Van Helsing, The 39 Steps, Baby's Day Out, The 13th Warrior, Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home, The Thomas Crown Affair, Austin Powers: International Man of Mystery, and London Has Fallen! Not to mention movie riffs and much more to come! Also, because you love us, find us everywhere! Like Facebook! Or the Facebook Fan Group! Or Twitter! Or Letterboxd! Or the Fancy Website! We are also available wherever you are too! Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn and Alexa, Podbean, Listen Notes, YouTube, everywhere! Coming soon to Pandora, iHeartRadio, and Deezer. How will Mars Attacks stand up? Host: Nicolas Hoffmann Panel: Nur, Jeremy and Daniel
Today Yardain Amron joins me to talk about his FreshEd Flux episode, which aired last week. I recommend you listen to his Flux episode before listening to this interview. It'll make a lot more sense! https://freshedpodcast.com/flux-amron/ In our conversation today, we talk about his process of creating podcasts and telling stories. He says he dwells on contradictions that often go unnoticed. Yardain also talks about the connections and tensions between his approach to storytelling as a journalist and his approach to academics as a master's student. He worked through some of these tensions developing his Flux episode, which brought together many different stories into a coherent narrative connected to theory. Yardain Amron is a freelance journalist and master's student at the University of British Colombia. www.freshedpodcast.com/amron/ -- Get in touch! Twitter: @FreshEdpodcast Facebook: FreshEd Email: email@example.com Support FreshEd: www.freshedpodcast.com/donate
This week we kill off half the cast and start over! Unrelated, but has anyone seen Matt? We watched X-Men: The Last Stand! The Dark Phoenix is impossible to get right, there, I said it. Join the Patreon (http://patreon.com/myopia)! There are tiers to that will help us keep doing what we are doing! (Each tier unlocks all lower tiers) What is patreon? It is our way of rewarding our biggest fans with additional stuff, like movie episodes, riffs, and our back catalog! Join now for additional stuff at $1, $3, $5, and $10! Or a one time $50 to pick your own flick! What do you unlock? The Alien Franchise: Alien, Aliens, Alien 3, Alien Resurrection, Prometheus, and Alien Covenant, the rest of Harry Potter: The Half Blood Prince, Hallows part 1 and 2, plus Silver Bullet, The Watchmen, The Lawnmower Man, Demolition Man, True Lies, Van Helsing, The 39 Steps, Baby's Day Out, The 13th Warrior, Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home, The Thomas Crown Affair, Austin Powers: International Man of Mystery, and London Has Fallen! Not to mention movie riffs and much more to come! Also, because you love us, find us everywhere! Like Facebook! Or the Facebook Fan Group! Or Twitter! Or Letterboxd! Or the Fancy Website! We are also available wherever you are too! Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn and Alexa, Podbean, Listen Notes, YouTube, everywhere! Coming soon to Pandora, iHeartRadio, and Deezer. How will X-Men: The Last Stand stand up? Host: Nicolas Hoffmann Panel: Evan, Dan, and Daniel
Get a Silver Bullet. An easy proposal software that technicians and salespeople can use to close more sales. Podcast Sponsor is Profitability Movement - https://profitability-movement.mn.co Ruth King Twitter - @RuthKing LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ruthking1/
Today we air the second episode of Flux, a FreshEd series where graduate students turn their research interests into narrative-based podcasts. In this episode Yardain Amron crafts a narrative that shows complex theories in action. He doesn't simply tell his listeners what these ideas are or name them explicitly. He takes us to disparate places–from universities in India and Puerto Rico to Occupy Wall Street–and makes a connection between them by embedding stories within stories. Through this nested narrative, he shows us how the streets are schools by exploring spaces of activism as educative sites, while leading us to the core idea at the heart of this episode: the relationship between debt and violence. Yardain Amron is a freelance journalist and master's student in Geography at the University of British Columbia. freshedpodcast.com/flux-amron -- Today's episode was created, written, produced, and edited by Yardain Amron. Johannah Fahey was the executive producer and Brett Lashua and Will Brehm were the producers. Flux theme music was composed by Joseph Minadeo of Pattern Based music. Music in this episode came from Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue): Tiny Bottles ShadowPlay The Bus at Dawn Kvelden Trapp David Graeber clip from "Debt: The First 5000 Years — Extended Interview" by Uprising with Sonali. Special thanks to Eleni Schirmer, Jose Laguarta, Banojyotsna Lahiri, Alessandra Rosa, and the many other student- and scholar-activists across the globe whose experiences and expertise, if not voices, underpin this story. -- Learn more about Flux: freshedpodcast.com/flux/about/ Twitter: @FreshEdpodcast Facebook: FreshEd Email: firstname.lastname@example.org Support FreshEd: www.freshedpodcast.com/donate
HOST: MARK LONGO, THE OPTIONS INSIDER MEDIA GROUP HOT SEAT: MIKE TOSAW, ST. CHARLES WEALTH MANAGEMENT IN THIS EPISODE, MARK AND MIKE DISCUSS: THE MOVERS AND SHAKERS THIS WEEK IN FUTURES OPTIONS RATES METALS EQUITIES AND MUCH MORE
This week we discuss the ins and outs of prehistoric capitalism. We watched the Flintstones! Will Fred Flintstone yabba dabba doo it with Halle Berry? Join the Patreon (http://patreon.com/myopia)! There are tiers to that will help us keep doing what we are doing! (Each tier unlocks all lower tiers) What is patreon? It is our way of rewarding our biggest fans with additional stuff, like movie episodes, riffs, and our back catalog! Join now for additional stuff at $1, $3, $5, and $10! Or a one time $50 to pick your own flick! What do you unlock? The Alien Franchise: Alien, Aliens, Alien 3, Alien Resurrection, Prometheus, and Alien Covenant, the rest of Harry Potter: The Half Blood Prince, Hallows part 1 and 2, plus Silver Bullet, The Watchmen, The Lawnmower Man, Demolition Man, True Lies, Van Helsing, The 39 Steps, Baby's Day Out, The 13th Warrior, Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home, The Thomas Crown Affair, Austin Powers: International Man of Mystery, and London Has Fallen! Not to mention movie riffs and much more to come! Also, because you love us, find us everywhere! Like Facebook! Or the Facebook Fan Group! Or Twitter! Or Letterboxd! Or the Fancy Website! We are also available wherever you are too! Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn and Alexa, Podbean, Listen Notes, YouTube, everywhere! Coming soon to Pandora, iHeartRadio, and Deezer. How will The Flintstones stand up? Host: Nicolas Hoffmann Panel: Evan, Matthew, and Daniel
Welcome to Season 8! This month we return to Cameron town for the first time directorially on the main feed with The Abyss, a movie directed so good, Cameron was punched out by Ed Harris on set! Join the Patreon (http://patreon.com/myopia)! There are tiers to that will help us keep doing what we are doing! (Each tier unlocks all lower tiers) What is patreon? It is our way of rewarding our biggest fans with additional stuff, like movie episodes, riffs, and our back catalog! Join now for additional stuff at $1, $3, $5, and $10! Or a one time $50 to pick your own flick! What do you unlock? The Alien Franchise: Alien, Aliens, Alien 3, Alien Resurrection, Prometheus, and Alien Covenant, the rest of Harry Potter: The Half Blood Prince, Hallows part 1 and 2, plus Silver Bullet, The Watchmen, The Lawnmower Man, Demolition Man, True Lies, Van Helsing, The 39 Steps, Baby's Day Out, The 13th Warrior, Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home, The Thomas Crown Affair, Austin Powers: International Man of Mystery, and London Has Fallen! Not to mention movie riffs and much more to come! Also, because you love us, find us everywhere! Like Facebook! Or the Facebook Fan Group! Or Twitter! Or Letterboxd! Or the Fancy Website! We are also available wherever you are too! Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn and Alexa, Podbean, Listen Notes, YouTube, everywhere! Coming soon to Pandora, iHeartRadio, and Deezer. How will The Abyss stand up? Host: Nicolas Panel: Jeremy, Candace, and Matthew
EP269 - New CEOs at Amazon and Instacart, Other news Breaking News: Instacart has appointed Facebook executive Fidji Simo as its new CEO Amazon News Jeff Bezos steps down Amazon offers it's multi-channel fulfillment (MCF) to Big Commerce customers Other News Shopify Unite 2021 Instagram leans into commerce Nike earnings Warby Parker IPO Episode 269 of the Jason & Scot show was recorded on Thursday July 8, 2021. http://jasonandscot.com Join your hosts Jason "Retailgeek" Goldberg, Chief Commerce Strategy Officer at Publicis, and Scot Wingo, CEO of GetSpiffy and Co-Founder of ChannelAdvisor as they discuss the latest news and trends in the world of e-commerce and digital shopper marketing. Transcript Jason: [0:24] Welcome to the Jason and Scot show this is episode 269 being recorded on Thursday July 8 2021, I'm your host Jason retailgeek Goldberg and as usual I'm here with your co-host Scott Wingo. Scot: [0:40] Hey Jason and welcome back Jason Scott show listeners Jason I hope you had a nice restful July 4th. Jason: [0:49] I had a great July 4th my poor dog that doesn't like fireworks cannot say the same but. Scot: [0:56] I love you tried the Thunder shirt. Jason: [0:58] We've tried all of those homeopathic remedies and we're now on doggies ionx and the last time we talked to our vet like he actually said inadvertently suggested that both the dog and my wife should be on Zan. Scot: [1:11] An unrelated news he's no longer but awesome I'm glad you did well we wanted. Jason: [1:20] Primary care physician exactly. Scot: [1:25] We had some breaking news and pretty exciting and I'm going to kick it over to you because it is your category of grocery. Jason: [1:33] Yeah Scott says that like he doesn't use groceries but the some news from earlier today that instacart announced that they had poached, a senior executive at Facebook and I'm I'm already telling the story wrong but they they've appointed and I'm sure I'm going to butcher her name, fidji Sumo who's a former Facebook executive that is now the CEO of instacart. And the reason this is potentially big news instacart has you know been one of the primary beneficiaries the pandemic, they're they're going gangbusters at the moment there's a lot of speculation that they're about to announce an IPO, and the founder of instacart is now stepping into an executive chairman roll out of the CEO role, and Fiji has actually been at instacart I think for like half a year from Facebook but or, I guess she was on the board of directors and so now she's coming on as a full-time employee. Scot: [2:36] Yeah it was interesting I was watching CNBC as I want to do and they did a breaking news alert and what to a live shot of of her with the apoorva who is the founder and now exec chairman of instacart and they were they were pretty directly asking the IP o– question they had to be kind of coy about it because you don't want to. [2:58] You can't control the timing of that there's another article out from the information that revealed that this seems to be a deeper strategy on the instacart side because they have taken over 60 folks from the Facebook side of things before this this kind of high-profile one and what's interesting about that is the article went on and kind of dug into it and a lot of them come from kind of the korad part of Facebook so you know what what I'm reading between the tea leaves there is you and I have not only talked about this new ad Network on instacart but we had one of the leaders there is a next Amazonian and on the show and yeah I've heard a lot of Buzz around this ad Network getting a lot of play and you can imagine that that would be a really nice thing to start having grow at triple digits post covid-19 as a way to continue to monetize thing so my theory is that this is a concerted effort to really beef up the ad Network part of instacart and add a second leg of monetization the first being consumers paying either extra or a delivery fee for groceries and it's gonna be interesting to see if that you know then maybe that rippled all the way to the top where they said hey would it be great to have someone with a really good ad Network chops in here and thus the addition of the G. Jason: [4:20] Yeah no I think your speculation is probably spot-on you know groceries a tough business to make money like in way instacart isn't really a grocer that are. Multi-sided market place and so it's a little easier to make money but still the best way to make money is with that ad Network and. I feel like more than half my life right now is retail media networks so they are super trendy and the dirty secret is most of them. Are not very high volume yet right like the retailers are investing all this money and collecting ad dollars but they don't actually have. Um enough eyeballs to have real scale and instacart is one of the exceptions to that so so they are a viable place to put your. Your digital ad dollars especially as they get more complicated in the Privacy Wars, so it makes sense that they want Executives that are good at that and I would also argue the instacart. Advertising products could stand for some. Some Evolution and some mature zation and so you know maybe that will be one of her focus is there is two two. Make those products more mature and friendly to advertisers. Scot: [5:34] And it wouldn't be a Jason Scott show without some. Jason: [5:43] Zon news new your margin is there opportunity. Scot: [5:51] Well the news that popped out at me this week and this is kind of a recurring theme that we promised listeners we'd keep track of and this recurring theme I like to call Amazon versus Shopify so you know we started out this year with a lot of kind of back and forth between the two companies on social media there was some talk of Jeff Bezos re-engaging to help the company come up with a Shopify strategy and so we've been watching this one really closely so I thought this news was pretty interesting and I'm curious what you thought about it as well so big Commerce announced that they are partnering with Amazon for mcf which stands for multi-channel fulfillment and you know I wanted to read this quote so this quote comes from the head of the omni-channel at Bigcommerce Sharon GE GES, and then the code is convenience and fast shipping expectations have become the Holy Grail of the online Shopper with demand forecasting becoming harder to control he G said in a press release Amazon mcf will help our Merchants to better plan purchase fill in a much more efficient way so I thought this was pretty interesting because first of all Amazon multi-channel Fulfillment has had kind of a rocky rocky. [7:05] Road not the ice cream but the you know so Amazon introduced FBA and they kind of introduced this ability to ship to other channels and then they got really rigid with it like then people said well that's good but we want you to ship in a different box and your fees are too high for off Amazon shipments and this that and the other and you know what if we want to use a carrier that you don't really lean into right now like a FedEx or something like that and if so then Amazon you know I don't know well the official stances but it became very hard to use that service in volume because the filament system got full and Amazon kind of prioritized FBA over M CF so mcf had this kind of like up and down Rocky thing so I thought this was interesting because it does seem like to getting more serious about it and then it also you know. [8:00] My theory is if you were going to sit down on a whiteboard come up with 10 to 20 things that can start the Box Shopify in this is one of them and then if you if you think back to the clubhouse we hosted that had Faisal on there he actually kind of said if I was the Amazon I would throw Logistics out on because they'll never figure it out and then I'll use that as a wedge to if I could get all shopify's customers using my Logistics then I could wedge out Shopify so I think that could be part of a you know I don't think this is going to be the Silver Bullet by any means but I think it is one of these silver shotgun pellets that Amazon is going to start firing at Shopify so I found that pretty interesting. How was your day. Jason: [8:43] Yeah I generally agree I'm not confident that it's I'm sure. Competitive factors against Shopify is is one aspect but to be honest it just good business for Amazon. [8:58] Two. It's another service where they get to make a higher percentage of the to the worldwide gmv and all the markets that they're in, um you know because Amazon's already the biggest digital platform in most of the markets they play in that they're shipping the majority of packages for most of these these sellers anyway and so it's just a way to grab the rest of their volume almost every you know the majority of these sellers selling other platforms besides Amazon, the majority of them now have recognized they need to have their own website and so it's kind of foolish of Amazon to I force them to open their own warehouses for those alternative channels or, hire another 3pl so I just think. [9:39] In the same way it made sense for Amazon to rent a WS capacity to others and you know provide some of these other services it's a way to monetize their delivery Network and their fulfillment Network so I think it's super smart. Um I do think Shopify had some aspirations in the 3pl side of things and I assume. Amazon will you know being quite a bit ahead of Shopify you know then making this ubiquitously available will cause some problems for Shopify the one thing that still gives me pause and we give me pause if I were a merchant. Um is that Amazon as you alluded to already has a checkered track record for supporting this service right so, um even if you're just an FBA seller and you put your inventory in FB a Amazon is a notorious for constraining how much of your inventory they'll accept. [10:36] Based on their demand capacity right so there was a lot of Buzz, um leading up to Prime day that a bunch of vendors just couldn't get inventory into FB a because Amazon had dramatically curtailed the amount of inventory that they would keep. Um there and there's all this speculation in the Amazon preferences new skus versus old skus and so a bunch of vendors. Found themselves having to go to other three pll's to sell on Amazon because Amazon just wouldn't accept all of their goods and so if you're going to say oh you know what I'm going to put all my eggs in Amazon's basket and have them ship all of my. I need to be certain that when they get busy when they have holiday Peaks they're not going to, preference their own their own stuff and what's going to sell best on their platform against my needs and at the moment Amazon doesn't have great credibility there so I think they have some reputation. Repair they need to do but assuming they do that like this makes a lot of sense and as you well know. Fragmentation of inventory is super expensive so you know having having some of your inventory and radio or or you know some of these other three pll's and some of your inventory and Amazon totally sucks because, you sell out of one place while you have slow turning inventory in the other place in that car. Scot: [11:57] Yet kind of invites Murphy's Law to come bite you in the butt because the second you send a thousand widget somewhere then you'll need a thousand widgets the other place it always happens that way it's super frustrating. Jason: [12:08] Yeah so I think this is a super appealing service, Amazon has a slight credibility problem that they'll have to overcome and historically they they're pretty good at overcoming those. Scot: [12:17] One last one is I know eBay and Walmart all, you know they got super frustrated that someone would come to eBay to buy something it would show up in an Amazon box so I know that there's been a lot of talk of them either putting up rules or thinking about it or on again off again with rules around that so I think Amazon would have to look at it and also think about the Amazon box and and. Not ship the stuff out and kind of normal Smiley Prime box that everything else comes out and. Jason: [12:49] Yeah no I think that is a TBD and again it's one thing if I'm, indigenous on Amazon and Amazon you know doesn't is super careful about what they let you even put in the Box because they're again trying to disintermediate you from the customer, but if it's my customer if I sold the you on my website and then I'm going to ship you a box and I'm just paying Amazon to ship that box for me. Like I of course want and expect to be able to put my promotional materials in that box and that you know figuring out all of that kind of thing. It is part of the mcf we haven't we haven't seen them as on solve it. As a side note this whole category is just ballooning there was an interesting article in. CNBC last week about how demand for warehouse space is at unprecedented levels and new cities like Columbus and Savannah are emerging as the new shipping hubs because. The traditional ones like Memphis and Kentucky and stuff just don't have have any more space to rent. Scot: [13:55] Carson and then I saw some of the stairs like a next generation of 3pl that's kind of like F ba of vacation / we work on vacation of 3pl like ship hero we've had some of these folks on the show talk about shipping carriers a lot of them are raising hundreds of millions of dollars right now so the VC dollars are flooding into the space to so it's gonna be really interesting to watch the overall fulfillment Wars continue. Jason: [14:21] Yeah and I something we've talked about a few times every week the virtual 3pls right and just you know it's super interesting. Scot: [14:29] And in that vein I put a little LinkedIn post I kind of tied this to fundraising it spiffy but the overall, thing I was trying to get across is. One of the friends of the show Brian Fitzgerald he's one of the internet Analyst at Wells Fargo they did a bricks and clicks day and this was last week and in there they had Rob Williams who's a former Amazon GM of global vendor management and he kind of made this off comment off off-the-cuff comment that I thought was interesting he said Mr Williams emphasized the sheer scale of the Amazon is logistics filled out over the last two years with over a hundred forty million square feet added which is the equivalent to the Distribution Center capacity added by Walmart over the past 50 years so that you and I have remarked several times about how how much infrastructure Amazon is building out and it's just hard to even, compare what they're doing I thought that was an interesting comparison. [15:27] Benedict Evans pointed out that he kind of argued is that a fair comparison because it doesn't count the retail stores I had a clever counter that that I can't remember but you know Amazon has pixels instead of physical space so so it's kind of apples and oranges in a way but yeah the my point in bringing it up with spiffy is I'm out their fundraising all the time and I get this feedback from VCS that say oh wait a minute you have fans and infrastructure yeah we don't invest in any companies that have that and I was want to facetiously say well well you would have missed Amazon because you know they they clearly have if asset heavy is a thing they are the most heavy and assets company out there that that I can think of that doesn't count all the the compute centers that they're building out for AWS but that's a whole nother story and then, there's a famous Jeff Bezos ISM that he has someone asked him this kind of question around this asset heavy thing he said you know one way of thinking about it is if you build a big enough castle that is the moat I guess the question he was asked is you know what's Amazon's competitive, and his answer was we're going to build such a big castle we don't need a moat and that this is this kind of reminded me of that quote as well and I tagged you in this you get the fun benefit of getting all the LinkedIn notifications for people commenting. Jason: [16:51] Yeah I was gonna say you're way more popular LinkedIn than me because that my insight through this is you get like dozens of comments every morning so I get up every morning and I'm like you've got a hundred new notifications and I'm like nice I finally became popular and then it turns out it's all, Scot Wingo levers commenting on your thread. Scot: [17:09] Wait till you live too two things so wait till you're working anniversary that's a always a big day on LinkedIn and then you should put a post up this as I really need an explainer leader explainer video and automated lead generation and I think you'd be very popular. Jason: [17:26] Yeah being slightly facetious I said the notifications are popular the emails I get I get plenty of unsolicited LinkedIn email yeah trying to sell like custodial services to pupusas. Scot: [17:40] Hey some there's a lot of garbage cancer that I imagine you damn thing. Jason: [17:45] Yeah yeah I wouldn't know because the haven't seen enough is very much lately, yeah so that that but that thread is super interesting there's been a lot of good conversations there and I've seen some of your your debates a slight. I don't think this changes the spirit of this at all like Amazon has this huge advantage in logistics it's the biggest advantage and, that it's something that despite the law of large numbers they're still growing and investing way faster than anyone else but Rob's comment was slightly off on Walmart like he what what he meant to say was, in the last two years Amazon has spent as much as Walmart did in their first 50 years not the last 50 years and so it is true, Walmart has dramatically accelerated their spending to not as much as Amazon but much more so than they did in their first 50 years. And / Benedict's point like I do think. These omni-channel retailers are leveraging their stores as a clever part of fulfillment so I to me it's not either or but I do think we're seeing Walmart and Target and Best Buy invest a lot in store fulfillment and in many ways that is working, as a competitive oil to Amazon any other Amazon news caught your attention this week Scott. Scot: [19:07] Well it is we've covered this before but Jeff is stepping Jeff Bezos I should say is stepping down as CEO and they updated some of the company leadership values I didn't see that as big news and a lot of people are you know the headlines are coming out already is this day too and that kind of thing yeah I feel like. Having met a lot of people at Amazon I think the culture has locked in every every both deep and wide there and I think it's going to take at least five years for us to see any kind of change in the culture there so I don't think you'll see them slow down there if people are counting on this to be the moment when they stopped feeling pressure and they can stop worrying about compete with Amazon that would be a mistake. Jason: [19:55] Yeah no I tend to agree I don't think we're going to look back in history and say oh man Jeff Bezos stepping down July 1st 2021 that was the inflection point right. The I would argue it's been day to at Amazon for a while like everything's on a spectrum so. [20:13] Amazon is an amazingly agile company that overcomes a ton of institutional inertia I think it's one of the most impressive things about Amazon despite their enormous size, they have a bunch of politics and institutional inertia and sacred cow syndrome at this point just like everyone else there I mean you know it's a 30 year-old company so you know as much as Jeff Bezos has some great slogans. Like some of that had already said in before Jeff left and you know Amazon is just too big one person like can't. Like be making that day-to-day impact on Amazon that he once did so like clearly his impact is. The culture he created and again I'm with you the company values I think what's interesting is that they changed it all right because, you want these to kind of be pillars that that are not trendy and don't change every year you know based on fads, um and so it is it's interesting that they amended them for the first time in a long while and the way they amended them is that you know to New Missions that Jeff Bezos announced in a shareholder letter right so you know they added. Value around being a better employer and a value around being a better. Ecological. Scot: [21:36] I am concerned about him going off into space that's going to be yeah I kind of questioned the logic on how there's a nonzero chance that doesn't work out. Jason: [21:46] I'll be ya as an investor I like him going in that rocket a lot I care a lot more about that and it makes me a lot more queasy than him stepping down as the CEO. Like there's an argument that his biggest value to Amazon will increase as he like. Stops reading customer service letters and more focuses on big-picture issues as executive chairman and largest shareholder but Rockets are dangerous man. Scot: [22:13] Yeah yeah yeah I'm worried about that but it's going to be exciting as well so we'll see how that goes. Jason: [22:21] Yeah no for sure and then the only other thing that jumped out at me that's a little interesting in this hole. Shuffling of the deck of Executives and things is it. You're starting to see you know those Amazon executives are their Amazon experience is really valuable to other companies so it's not surprising that people are trying to recruit them, I think with Jeff stepping down in a succession plan you know getting implemented, I think it's going to be harder to hang on to some of those other senior Executives so it's going to be interesting to see. If the biggest impact of Jeff stepping down in the long run is less retention from the other s team members and along those lines I notice that Rent the Runway which is getting ready to do. They're their IPO and they you know had some, some challenging leadership Optics grabbed one of the. The senior Executives from the the Amazon supply chain Tony Clark to who is. VP of fulfillment and Amazon to kind of take over Rent the Runway so you know I think those kind of stories could become more common. Scot: [23:40] Yeah yeah there's definitely a lot of poaching going on across the industry is some of these next-generation things are scaling up and looking at going public and need to tap into the. Jason: [23:49] Yeah and the two stories this this week I think people leaving Amazon and people even Facebook I have to believe it's easier than ever before to peel off Executives from those two companies. Scot: [23:58] Yeah one on Amazon thing I wanted to pick your brain on is assume your Instagram person came out and said hey our new kind of going forward we're no longer a kind of square photo company we have a new Focus area in fact there's for number one creators number two video number 3 shopping and number for messaging I thought that was pretty interesting because we've seen Instagram kind of crank up the amount of activity around shoppable ads and incorporating extending their partnership with Shopify and we've seen shop pay being added all over the place and I thought you know that's pretty interesting what did you make of that. Jason: [24:42] Yeah well so not surprising a those were those are basically. Mark Zuckerberg zwei like priorities from from 2019 f8 so it's not. Totally surprising that they're they've kind of propagated to Instagram at this point it is interesting to me that. You know at least three and maybe four of them are all like cumulatively what I would call Commerce right like you taught you know. [25:10] What big trends am I talking a lot with with clients about it since its creators as micro influencers its video driven Commerce its. Social commerce and the the sleeper is. You know customer service phone lines are going away and they used to sell an awful lot of product on those phone lines and all that is pivoting to the these various chat services and you know you talk to Consumers no one wants to use their phone for voice calls anymore so, so you know Commerce happening via customer service on these messaging services also is a big thing and so, for all those reasons I would say I have a lot more clients that are a lot more interested in piloting things on these social networks and Instagram. Are you we may have the most robust Commerce tool set right at the moment so, makes total sense for them to leaning leaning in I would say the one bomber if you're at Instagram today is that for some good and some irrational reasons The Social Network that has the most Buzz amongst my clients as tick-tock. [26:20] Still smaller I would argue still has less buying intent than Instagram but it's growing much faster and it it gets brought up in a lot more board meeting so I have a lot more panicked. Chief digital officer is calling asking me for advice about Commerce pilots on Tik-Tok than I do Commerce pilots on Instagram at this. Scot: [26:43] Nursery and then do you respond with some of your clever to Funk videos. Jason: [26:48] I do I do I send them all to my Instagram Channel where I talk about Tick-Tock on Instagram. Scot: [26:55] And you do the Renegade. Jason: [26:57] Yeah yeah I've, I was for a while but now the problem is I've like 23 ACLS on my skateboard trying to drink that stupid Ocean Spray so I. I probably need to stop that yeah I tend to be about three or four social networks behind so I've kind of just leaned into YouTube now that it's not cool anymore. Scot: [27:18] Just wrapping up the Friendster account. Jason: [27:21] Oh no I'm hang on at that bad boy. Scot: [27:23] It's coming back I promise. Jason: [27:25] Exactly you guys will all be sorry you abandoned me on MySpace. Scot: [27:30] Another industry news item is Shopify held their kind of virtual unite 2021 conference they announced a bunch of platform enhancements I didn't see anything earth-shattering where they get the most Buzz is they basically said hey if you have an app on our app store we're going to give you the first million dollars free and that was kind of part of there roguish rubbish you know app stores have obviously been in the news a lot with both Apple and Google coming out under Apple versus epic and then Google just got an antitrust filing on this topic so you know date they kind of very cleverly took a kind of a counter PR strategy here which got a lot of Buzz which I thought was pretty clever you know um They never said how much that's going to cost them in revenue and the stock didn't really kind of move around and I thought someone should have asked that question I didn't even ask that question so it must be someone in material or or, people don't care I don't know but I thought that was clever PR but I really didn't get anything much more media out of out of the announcements there. Jason: [28:38] Well so there are few things a I would I would say that one got a lot of Buzz but I would say if that was actually an easy thing for Shopify to offer and it's largely misunderstood, the app store for Google or even way more so the app store for apple is the primary moneymaker it's their primary economic model. [28:59] When we talk about App Store in the context of Shopify it's a B2B app store right so what this is is your, you want to sell your goods on a Shopify store and you need some amenity that isn't built into the native Shopify platform, you need ratings and reviews so you go into the App Store and you buy ratings and reviews from one of the, the 50 vendors that offer a ratings and reviews solution and Shopify used to take a little piece of that initial Revenue. For for that app store right and so now they're saying hey we're not going to take a piece of your first million dollars in Revenue. The so so that's a thing and it makes it a little a little cheaper for small companies to be on that that App Store, the reality is the big companies it's super annoying because they already had access to those customers without the App Store. The App Store is not the only path to get your your product instrumented on Shopify so you kind of it's closer to. Like Google where you can kind of sideload apps and not go through the App Store but the bigger thing is. As a general rule Shopify would tell you not to use the app store and most of the other, initiatives from Shopify were about minimizing the app store because it turns out when you install 50 unvented plugins from small unknown third parties. [30:28] Destroys your stability and performance of your web store and so like. Shopify some of the other things they announced was like a better vetting process of that app store but like in general it's not like sellers are using dozens and dozens of apps and that there's that's a big Revenue stream for Shopify. [30:50] So it the fact that they have a robust app echo system is a competitive Advantage for Shopify against other platforms. So maybe there's more apps available on the Shopify App Store than there are on the Bigcommerce App Store and that might make you pick Shopify and by not charging, rev share on your first million dollars in sales and their App Store that encourages more people to stay on the app store which helps them keep that that little note they have against other platforms so. Maybe more information than anyone wanted on that point but, to me the more interesting thing is I shopify's another one of these amazing companies that I still like to criticize right there doing a bunch of things right, but I still like to highlight that they've got a ton of technical debt and a particular pet peeve of mine has been the the inflexibility of their platform that you kind of like every seller gets kind of homogenized to the same experience because it's kind of hard to get out of the Shopify box, and that that box is not very a very good performer and from a web page load speed thing which is super important to e-commerce success. The Shopify store starts out as mediocre and then if you make some bad decisions mediocre becomes horrific and so I would say that. [32:10] They probably didn't do enough they didn't announce enough in this to make me super excited that they're fixing all those problems but I would say they they owned all of those problems at in their unite 2021 conference and, announced some significant progress in each of those so I think for sure. [32:27] They're they're doing more to allow individual shop owners to change the look and feel and optimize their customer experience in more ways. That are codeless which is you know what most Shopify sites want so I think they made a lot of progress in their in their flexibility on their user experience. They're evolving their product management system in some ways to make it more competitive with Standalone pims and to make it a more useful sort of. Hub for marketplaces so I imagine there's some interested followers it Channel advisor and your competitors in that space that are looking at some of the things they announced it. And then they did make some improvements in their page performance they made a lot of improvements in letting people know what their page performance is they really improve their tools there. Um but they still aren't embracing things that I would say are probably things you want to be embracing in 2021 like Progressive web apps for mobile and things like that so. So I would say they're addressing their technical debt but they did not you know come out and say it's we've wiped it all away. Scot: [33:36] Brickell one of the last things I want to talk about is I saw this and thought of you, United presented several times about different Trends in one of your favorites is the talk about Brands going direct one of my also favorite Trends and you frequently reference Nike as a company that's really focused on this and they had some some interesting news there. Jason: [33:56] Yeah yeah so they had that I want to say in the mid June end of June. They did their their quarterly earnings it's slightly confusing because they're not a calendar fiscal year so. So their Q4 ended May 31st so their quarterly earnings were Q4 whereas a lot of companies on counter years in the same season or doing their kind of what they would call their q1 earnings. I'm sorry Q2 earnings so a they had a really good earnings report. Which is kind of impressive because in general you would have said man shoes and apparel didn't do very well during the pandemic. And you know again comping. [34:42] Kind of what would that be April major March April May of this year versus last year like the basis was really sucky last year so you would expect. Q4 to be up but their fiscal year was way up right so there, so they're they're 2020 fiscal year was up nineteen percent from the previous year which is pretty impressive in the pandemic and what's even more interesting is you look like North America and Nike sales, last quarter we're up 29% versus two years ago so if you're wondering if they've fully recovered from the pandemic and people not wearing shoes yes like they did really well and then digital. You know like a lot of other companies again in the pandemic more of your sales shifted to digital so you expect kind of digital to be up last year which should make the comps this year tough, but they were still up 54% and they're up a hundred and seventy-seven percent from two years ago so so. Like stupendous digital growth. [35:49] And you know you as you alluded to the thing we talked a lot about Nike is in the 1990s Nike was a hundred percent wholesale company and they they so choose to Foot Locker and Footlocker sold them to Consumers, and you know over time they were really one of the first Brands to launch their own retail store Nike Town and it was super controversial at the time. People have obviously gotten used to those initiatives and if you zoom back to like twenty ten fifteen percent of Nikes sales were direct-to-consumer well, in 2017 Nike said hey we're going to get really serious about this direct-to-consumer we think that's the future we're going to fire all of our wholesalers and mainly become a direct-to-consumer company and in fact the numbers were startling, they said they had 40,000 companies that sold Nike shoes and they were looking to diminish that to about 80 companies, and every year we've seen them fire wholesalers this year we saw them say to DSW that you're not going to be selling Nike shoes anymore, so Nikes really practicing what they preach and in 2020. Thirty-five percent of their sales were direct-to-consumer so they are you know making a lot of progress there you know in that that strategy is basically working for them so it's been super interesting to watch and I, I talked with a lot of brands in other categories about the Nike example and it's. [37:12] They have their own platform and echo system with Nike Plus, um that they're they're a leader in social commerce they're doing a bunch of things really well so it's interesting that not shocking that they had a great quarterly earnings and I think their stock had a nice bump as well. [37:31] Speaking of stock there's an IPO that I am eager to get my hands on but I won't be able to right away and I thought maybe you could explain that to our listeners Scott Warby Parker has announced that they have confidentially filed for an IPO and you've already taught me what that means but maybe you could explain it to our listeners. Scot: [37:52] Yes there's back in the Obama Administration there was this jobs act thing that allowed you to file confidentially to do an IPO and the benefit of that is it's when you the old school way you would file for an IPO and then all of your conversations with SEC were public and inside of there there's a little bit of dirty laundry thing that goes on there also. [38:19] It almost fully commits you to the IP o– path at that point so it doesn't give the company the ability to kind of, test and kind of say all right we want to kind of show this you see what's going on here and maybe we decide based on their feedback we don't want to do this process or maybe we do some exploratory conversations with potential shareholders and valuations off and we don't like it we want to pull the IP o– it doesn't give you that opportunity so that's what the confidential filing thing gives you now, when companies so then why would a company announced it so the reason companies now announced that they're doing it is too, if they they don't have to do it the day they file so what they probably did this filed they got good feedback and round one from the SEC and then, they committed to the path and then it's smart at that point kind of prime the pump and tell people you're coming down the path a little bit. [39:14] It still hides your SEC things you still have that small window where they filed before they announced they were doing this to test the waters get feedback from SEC maybe they were a lot of times you're also having what's called a dual path kind of a a program where you're selling the company you're looking at possibly selling the company and an IPO is kind of an alternative so that's that's why it would then be time to to announce it is you're fully committed to the IPO path and it's kind of like when you list a house now a lot of people do it coming soon so it puts a little bit of a coming soon out there to build excitement for the IPO but then also does keep the communications with the SE comp SEC confidential and it does allow you to run a little bit of a decision-making process before you announce the confidential file. Jason: [40:02] Gotcha and so but it is true that at some point that s one becomes public right. Scot: [40:07] Yeah yeah what'll happen is the SEC will say okay this SEC is out of draft mode and it's going to you know once you update it with these things you're good to go and then they'll they'll update it and then it will be kind of a hot live S1 and then that will start the whole thing where they that starts the calendar of after X days you start your road show and then you need to price and then do the type you. Jason: [40:36] Yeah and so I and many others are super eager to get our hands on that as a lot of listeners will know where be Parker was one of the, the first kind of poster child for these like modern digital direct to Consumer Brands and so for the longest time, you know every brand in America was like the sky is falling all these d2c companies are showing up in there doing much better than us and they're getting all the buzz and the two biggest examples were Dollar Shave Club and Warby Parker. And we've never gotten a chance to see the real economics behind our shift Club because they were part of a private acquisition at Unilever and Unilever doesn't have to disclose a lot of there. They're their individual financials because it's not material to Unilever. [41:23] We're all eager to see how big Warby Parker really is and you know I have a hypothesis that that while they seem like a good company and. I'm sure they're going to meaningful sales that they these DDC companies are slightly overhyped and so I think people might be surprised at like what the annual sales run rate is. At where we Parker when when the stuff gets disclosed so I'm. Excited for that and then you know past guest of the show Dan McCarthy like he's having a field day with these s ones because increasingly they're putting. Customer retention data and cohort data in these things and that lets him do why you know the real big brain math. To figure out the the long-term value of these companies and inward to be partners case. They're one of the oldest digital di disease out there so they're going to have a lot of robust cohort so they choose to share some data that will be super interesting. Scot: [42:23] Yeah I don't I don't know how often people change their glasses this that'll be factored. Jason: [42:28] Well part of the Moss so like a lot is annual or at least prescriptions and things like that and part of the word we parked our model is that. It was they would say that like we're so inexpensive that we become more of a fashion accessory and people that would have only owned one pair of glasses will own for pair of glasses and people that would have only bought glasses every three years or buying glasses every year and stuff like that so, it'll be interesting to see how much of that is true. Scot: [42:55] Cope and then kind of a tease for a future trip report you are spreading your wings and find a New York to do some retail business for us what's what what are you going to check out when you're there. Jason: [43:07] Yeah old time listeners will know you know I was on the road every week and we talked about visiting stores every time I got a chance to visit them I haven't gotten to do that in a while. I have done a couple business trips but I do have one for the end of this month in New York and New Jersey and I have reserved a day because there's two significant new store openings that have happened this month. There is a Wizarding World of Harry Potter store, that opened in the Flatiron District in New York I've read a lot about that I got to visit it while it was under construction but this will be my first time seeing it open. And some people will know that I often use Ali Anders Wand Shop at Universal Studios as my example of the best retail experience out there so so Harry Potter has some creds, the Harry Potter team has some creds and Retail it'll be interesting to see what they do in this this Flagship retail space. And then the other company that opened a retail store. [44:12] Arguably for the first time is Google so they've opened a permanent store in New York City and they had a big new cycle where they're like we're opening our first store it's a huge deal, and I would put an Asterix on that because they have done a lot of significant pop-up retail where they like open to store for six months. And I'm not sure that the the permanent store is necessarily going to be wildly different than those pop-ups but I'm eager to see how their their retail shops have evolved and I'll be fun to visit that store. Scot: [44:44] Yeah I think I double dog dare you to walk in the Google Store the megaphone and just say two words OK Google and then run out. Let's see what happens and then at the Harry Potter store I'm excited to hear in a future show you don't have to reveal now if you're not comfortable this a very personal question but what do you put at the core of your wand are you a phoenix feather guy or a unicorn hair or Dragon spit or yeah so it's going to be exciting to get a report on that as well. Jason: [45:17] Yeah well Scott as you well know you don't get to pick that because you do not choose the wand the wand chooses you. Scot: [45:23] Ah man going deep on the HP nods. Jason: [45:26] Yeah but adding a layer of complexity this New York store has some scarcity so there are there is a 1 for example that's only available at the store that's not available through any of the other properties so do you. You pick the one that's the best fit for your innate magic or do you you know pick the one-of-a-kind one that you can only get by visiting the store it's. It's a lot of a lot of. Scot: [45:49] Solid on door for the scarcity and sell it on eBay. Jason: [45:52] Yeah Scott Scott I know exactly what you would do I am selling some stuff on eBay for the first time for so side note for a future show. It turns out it's a normal consumer it's a huge pain in the ass to sell stuff on eBay now which is pretty disappointing. Scot: [46:07] Yeah wait till you ship it in the people some kind of quack Ado has. Jason: [46:10] Don't get paid yeah oh I'm terrified I feel like I've gotten like all this these communications from scammers it's like I would never advise a not sophisticated so or to try to do this like this used to be their primary model. Scot: [46:25] Yeah it's hard. Jason: [46:27] It is a mess. Anyway Scott we did allocate a shorter period of time for the show and I feel like I want to honor that commitment I know it's summer everyone's taking vacation so, we don't want to condemn our listeners to our usual our so I think this is a good place to cut it, if you appreciate shorter shows you can thank us by leaving a review and saying hey we always love the show but we love the shorter one even more. Scot: [46:53] Thanks everybody and until next time… Jason: [46:57] Happy Commercing!