The Kate and Colby Show

We have moralized the experiences of feeling either UP (it's good!) or DOWN (that's bad). It's seen as better to be happy, peppy, and positive; whereas if you're feeling blue or sad or angry, we've turned that in to a negative. Part of what still needs deconstructing for many of us is this moralization of our emotional world. Rather than bottling or repressing our “down” feelings, may we learn to name, accept, and release them. ——— Past Episodes in this Series: Part 1: When Evangelical Leaders Tell You YOUR “Why” Part 2: Investigating Our Savior Complexes Part 3: Why We Don't Entirely Identify with the #Deconstruction Movement Part 4: Deconstructing While Still Going to Church ——— ABOUT THE KATE & COLBY SHOW Our mission is Holistic Care for the Soul. As post-Evangelicals, and self-identifying Progressive Christians (or at least, most days), we offer unique insights into the world of relationships, spiritual practices, parenting, and more. We met in Junior High, got married in 2003, and soon grew our family to four kids. Living in San Diego, we also co-Pastor the church we started in 2014, Sojourn Grace Collective: https://www.sojourngrace.com Don't forget to check out The Kate & Colby Show on YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPECswRcM6SUr-bwUNwuX_A) where you can see past episodes of our LIVE Show. ——— THREE WAYS TO SUPPORT THE SHOW 1) Financially Express your gratitude and help with the costs of producing and growing the Show with one-time gifts or monthly backing: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/kateandcolby 2) Socially Subscribe to our channel on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPECswRcM6SUr-bwUNwuX_A Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kateandcolby​ Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kateandcolby Get our Newsletter: https://www.thekateandcolbyshow.com 3) Reviewingly Listen, Rate and Review our Podcast. - iTunes: https://apple.co/2VfFgb3 - Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2Vh4jdH - Stitcher: https://bit.ly/2VeotoT - Podbean: https://bit.ly/3fZ4yCj ——— SPECIAL THANKS TO OUR MONTHLY BARISTAS (aka, our Supporters on Buy Me A Coffee) Anna, Melanie, Bill, Patty, Amanda, Lisa, Erin, and Jason!

Lots of us have experienced a kind of Deconstruction from conservative/evangelical religion. A good portion of those folks have left the church entirely (for very good reasons). But some of us have remained in the world of church. And then a handful of us (like, well, Kate & Colby) have both stayed AND tried to LEAD churches. What is like to try and deconstruct while still attending (and leading!) church? This is a faaaaascinating conversation!! ——— Past Episodes in this Series: Part 1: When Evangelical Leaders Tell You YOUR “Why” Part 2: Investigating Our Savior Complexes Part 3: Why We Don't Entirely Identify with the #Deconstruction Movement ——— ABOUT THE KATE & COLBY SHOW Our mission is Holistic Care for the Soul. As post-Evangelicals, and self-identifying Progressive Christians (or at least, most days), we offer unique insights into the world of relationships, spiritual practices, parenting, and more. We met in Junior High, got married in 2003, and soon grew our family to four kids. Living in San Diego, we also co-Pastor the church we started in 2014, Sojourn Grace Collective: https://www.sojourngrace.com Don't forget to check out The Kate & Colby Show on YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPECswRcM6SUr-bwUNwuX_A) where you can see past episodes of our LIVE Show. ——— THREE WAYS TO SUPPORT THE SHOW 1) Financially Express your gratitude and help with the costs of producing and growing the Show with one-time gifts or monthly backing: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/kateandcolby 2) Socially Subscribe to our channel on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPECswRcM6SUr-bwUNwuX_A Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kateandcolby​ Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kateandcolby Get our Newsletter: https://www.thekateandcolbyshow.com 3) Reviewingly Listen, Rate and Review our Podcast. - iTunes: https://apple.co/2VfFgb3 - Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2Vh4jdH - Stitcher: https://bit.ly/2VeotoT - Podbean: https://bit.ly/3fZ4yCj ——— SPECIAL THANKS TO OUR MONTHLY BARISTAS (aka, our Supporters on Buy Me A Coffee) Anna, Melanie, Bill, Patty, Amanda, Lisa, Erin, and Jason!

You know what can suck? Reading your Bible and feeling like you are neither included nor counted. You know what can be incredibly healing? Having someone show you how, in fact, you are right there on the page, part of the story. This is one of the many gifts Austen Hartke gives people, a way to read the Bible so that trans and gender-expansive people see themselves in scripture.

In part three of our series, “Quote, unQuote, Deconstruction,” we attempt to get a little more clear about why it is that we don't always entirely resonate with or connect to the #Deconstruction movement. We totally affirm the value of such language and terms, and yet sometimes we find ourselves feeling, well, not very deconstruction-y. Past Episodes in this Series: Part 1: When Evangelical Leaders Tell You YOUR “Why” Part 2: Investigating Our Savior Complexes ——— ABOUT THE KATE & COLBY SHOW Our mission is Holistic Care for the Soul. As post-Evangelicals, and self-identifying Progressive Christians (or at least, most days), we offer unique insights into the world of relationships, spiritual practices, parenting, and more. We met in Junior High, got married in 2003, and soon grew our family to four kids. Living in San Diego, we also co-Pastor the church we started in 2014, Sojourn Grace Collective: https://www.sojourngrace.com Don't forget to check out The Kate & Colby Show on YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPECswRcM6SUr-bwUNwuX_A) where you can see past episodes of our LIVE Show. ——— THREE WAYS TO SUPPORT THE SHOW 1) Financially Express your gratitude and help with the costs of producing and growing the Show with one-time gifts or monthly backing: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/kateandcolby 2) Socially Subscribe to our channel on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPECswRcM6SUr-bwUNwuX_A Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kateandcolby​ Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kateandcolby Get our Newsletter: https://www.thekateandcolbyshow.com 3) Reviewingly Listen, Rate and Review our Podcast. - iTunes: https://apple.co/2VfFgb3 - Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2Vh4jdH - Stitcher: https://bit.ly/2VeotoT - Podbean: https://bit.ly/3fZ4yCj ——— SPECIAL THANKS TO OUR MONTHLY BARISTAS (aka, our Supporters on Buy Me A Coffee) Anna, Melanie, Bill, Patty, Amanda, Lisa, Erin, and Jason!

Continuing our series, “Quote, unQuote, Deconstruction,” we talk about how we grew up being told a story where we were responsible for the eternal safety of our loved ones. We needed to get them to be Christians, or else they'd spend forever in hell. Now, even on the other side of such (bad) theology, we still suffer from the impact of a kind of savior complex. Past Episodes in this Series: Part 1: When Evangelical Leaders Tell You YOUR “Why” : https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-kate-and-colby-show/id1282190339?i=1000545526779 ——— ABOUT THE KATE & COLBY SHOW Our mission is Holistic Care for the Soul. As post-Evangelicals, and self-identifying Progressive Christians (or at least, most days), we offer unique insights into the world of relationships, spiritual practices, parenting, and more. We met in Junior High, got married in 2003, and soon grew our family to four kids. Living in San Diego, we also co-Pastor the church we started in 2014, Sojourn Grace Collective: https://www.sojourngrace.com Don't forget to check out The Kate & Colby Show on YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPECswRcM6SUr-bwUNwuX_A) where you can see past episodes of our LIVE Show. ------ THREE WAYS TO SUPPORT THE SHOW 1) Financially Express your gratitude and help with the costs of producing and growing the Show with one-time gifts or monthly backing: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/kateandcolby 2) Socially Subscribe to our channel on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPECswRcM6SUr-bwUNwuX_A Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kateandcolby​ Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kateandcolby Get our Newsletter: https://www.thekateandcolbyshow.com 3) Reviewingly Listen, Rate and Review our Podcast. - iTunes: https://apple.co/2VfFgb3 - Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2Vh4jdH - Stitcher: https://bit.ly/2VeotoT - Podbean: https://bit.ly/3fZ4yCj ——— SPECIAL THANKS TO OUR MONTHLY BARISTAS (aka, our Supporters on Buy Me A Coffee) Susan, Joel, Anna, Melanie, James, Julie, Bill, Patty, Amanda, Lisa, and Erin

More and more people don't believe in God anymore. At least, not as they've previously thought of "God." In our modern, secular age, dominated by science and technology, is there space for enchantment any longer? Or have we left all that behind? In his latest book, "Hunting Magic Eels" (https://amzn.to/3gpDIWz) Richard Becks offers a way to re-enchant our faith in the midst of this, our skeptical age. We met Richard years ago at our church camp, and instantly we knew he was one of our favs. Hope you enjoy either getting to know him for the first time, or learning more about his latest work! #progressivechristianity​​ #postevangelica​l #enchantedfaith ——— ALSO THIS EPISODE Viewer Check-in: When it comes to magic, what's your general feeling/attitude? Pets and Pet Hair: Does pet hair gross you out? Or, are you just fine with it? Join us for an impromptu "Who's Team Are You On" segment! ——— ABOUT THE KATE & COLBY SHOW Our mission is Holistic Care for the Soul. As post-Evangelicals, and self-identifying Progressive Christians (or at least, most days), we offer unique insights into the world of relationships, spiritual practices, parenting, and more. We met when we were in Junior High, got married in 2003, and soon grew our family to four kids. Living in San Diego, we also co-Pastor the church we started in 2014, Sojourn Grace Collective: https://www.sojourngrace.com The Kate & Colby Show was a podcast first (and still is!), and is also now a LIVE Show that streams on Wednesdays at 7pm pacific. ——— THREE WAYS TO SUPPORT THE SHOW 1) Financially Express your gratitude and help with the costs of producing and growing the Show with one-time gifts or monthly backing: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/kateandcolby 2) Socially Subscribe to our channel here on Youtube Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kateandcolby​ Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kateandcolby Get our Newsletter: https://www.thekateandcolbyshow.com 3) Reviewingly Listen, Rate and Review our Podcast. - iTunes: https://apple.co/2VfFgb3 - Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2Vh4jdH - Stitcher: https://bit.ly/2VeotoT - Podbean: https://bit.ly/3fZ4yCj ——— SPECIAL THANKS TO OUR MONTHLY BARISTAS
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As the author of, "Your Grief, Your Way" (https://amzn.to/3D2k7VS), Shelby Forsythia offers a refreshing approach to living life after the loss of a loved one. Shelby is an Intuitive Grief Guide (can we talk about what that means? Yay!), and a podcast host (check out "Grief Seeds" and "Coming Back") who helps grieving people reclaim their power and peace of mind after death, divorce, diagnosis, and major life transitions. Learn more about her and her work at: https://www.shelbyforsythia.com #progressivechristianity​​ #postevangelica​l #grief ——— ALSO THIS EPISODE Viewer Check-in: What was your favorite back-to-school ritual or experience? ——— ABOUT THE KATE & COLBY SHOW Our mission is Holistic Care for the Soul. As post-Evangelicals, and self-identifying Progressive Christians (or at least, most days), we offer unique insights into the world of relationships, spiritual practices, parenting, and more. We met when we were in Junior High, got married in 2003, and soon grew our family to four kids. Living in San Diego, we also co-Pastor the church we started in 2014, Sojourn Grace Collective: https://www.sojourngrace.com The Kate & Colby Show was a podcast first (and still is!), and is also now a LIVE Show that streams on Wednesdays at 7pm pacific. ——— THREE WAYS TO SUPPORT THE SHOW 1) Financially Express your gratitude and help with the costs of producing and growing the Show with one-time gifts or monthly backing: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/kateandcolby 2) Socially Subscribe to our channel here on Youtube Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kateandcolby​ Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kateandcolby Get our Newsletter: https://www.thekateandcolbyshow.com 3) Reviewingly Listen, Rate and Review our Podcast. - iTunes: https://apple.co/2VfFgb3 - Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2Vh4jdH - Stitcher: https://bit.ly/2VeotoT - Podbean: https://bit.ly/3fZ4yCj ——— SPECIAL THANKS TO OUR MONTHLY BARISTAS
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In her gripping new memoir, Paula Stone Williams tells the many stories of being a transgender pastor who transitioned from male to female--all that was lost and gained along the way. Including the many unique insights and observations about power, sex, and the patriarchy. We've been friends with Paula for several years now, learning from her wisdom and experience in ministry, as well as being the recipients of her giant heart for humanity. It's an honor to have Paula back on the Show! Check out her book, "As a Woman: What I Learned About Power, Sex, and the Patriarchy after I Transitioned" : https://amzn.to/3xmXJ5R For more about Paula, check out her TED talk (with other 4 million views): https://tinyurl.com/3tcp82te as well as her blog: https://paulastonewilliams.com #progressivechristianity​​ #postevangelica​l #transgenderchristian ——— ABOUT THE KATE & COLBY SHOW Our mission is Holistic Care for the Soul. As post-Evangelicals, and self-identifying Progressive Christians (or at least, most days), we offer unique insights into the world of relationships, spiritual practices, parenting, and more. We met when we were in Junior High, got married in 2003, and soon grew our family to four kids. Living in San Diego, we also co-Pastor the church we started in 2014, Sojourn Grace Collective: https://www.sojourngrace.com The Kate & Colby Show was a podcast first (and still is!), and is also now a LIVE Show that streams on Wednesdays at 7pm pacific. ——— THREE WAYS TO SUPPORT THE SHOW 1) Financially Express your gratitude and help with the costs of producing and growing the Show with one-time gifts or monthly backing: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/kateandcolby 2) Socially Subscribe to our channel here on Youtube Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kateandcolby​ Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kateandcolby Get our Newsletter: https://www.thekateandcolbyshow.com 3) Reviewingly Listen, Rate and Review our Podcast. - iTunes: https://apple.co/2VfFgb3 - Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2Vh4jdH - Stitcher: https://bit.ly/2VeotoT - Podbean: https://bit.ly/3fZ4yCj ——— SPECIAL THANKS TO OUR MONTHLY BARISTAS
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As an author, speaker, disability advocate, and trauma survivor, Stephanie Tait aims to do what she believes is sorely lacking in and around Christianity--connect sound theology and practice with the unashamed acceptance of struggle in the present tense. According to Stephanie, pain does not exist on a spectrum opposite of joy. Rather, pain, with the way it weaves into our lives, families, and work habits, has been the connecting point of grace and struggle that defines her career. Come be a part of what will surely be a real, raw, and fascinating conversation! Learn more about Stephanie: https://www.stephanietaitwrites.com Check out her latest book, The View From Rock Bottom: https://amzn.to/3rQYuCN #progressivechristianity​​ #postevangelica​l #theologyofsuffering ——— ABOUT THE KATE & COLBY SHOW Our mission is Holistic Care for the Soul. As post-Evangelicals, and self-identifying Progressive Christians (or at least, most days), we offer unique insights into the world of relationships, spiritual practices, parenting, and more. We met when we were in Junior High, got married in 2003, and soon grew our family to four kids. Living in San Diego, we also co-Pastor the church we started in 2014, Sojourn Grace Collective: https://www.sojourngrace.com The Kate & Colby Show was a podcast first (and still is!), and is also now a LIVE Show that streams on Wednesdays at 7pm pacific. ——— THREE WAYS TO SUPPORT THE SHOW 1) Financially Express your gratitude and help with the costs of producing and growing the Show with one-time gifts or monthly backing: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/kateandcolby 2) Socially Subscribe to our channel here on Youtube Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kateandcolby​ Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kateandcolby Get our Newsletter: https://www.thekateandcolbyshow.com 3) Reviewingly Listen, Rate and Review our Podcast. - iTunes: https://apple.co/2VfFgb3 - Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2Vh4jdH - Stitcher: https://bit.ly/2VeotoT - Podbean: https://bit.ly/3fZ4yCj ——— SPECIAL THANKS TO OUR MONTHLY BARISTAS
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In this Garage Session, we discuss the phenomenon occurring right now where evangelical leaders are attempting to tell people why they're deconstructing. Kate points out that this experience—of leaders/pastors telling us our story for us—is precisely what evangelicalism has always been about. Join us as we begin pushing back against this effort to control those of us who've left evangelicalism behind. THREE WAYS TO SUPPORT THE SHOW 1) Financially Express your gratitude and help with the costs of producing and growing the Show with one-time gifts or monthly backing: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/kateandcolby 2) Socially Subscribe to our channel on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPECswRcM6SUr-bwUNwuX_A Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kateandcolby​ Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kateandcolby Get our Newsletter: https://www.thekateandcolbyshow.com 3) Reviewingly Listen, Rate and Review our Podcast. - iTunes: https://apple.co/2VfFgb3 - Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2Vh4jdH - Stitcher: https://bit.ly/2VeotoT - Podbean: https://bit.ly/3fZ4yCj ——— SPECIAL THANKS TO OUR MONTHLY BARISTAS (aka, our Supporters on Buy Me A Coffee) Susan, Joel, Anna, Melanie, James, Julie, Bill, Patty, Amanda, Lisa, and Erin

In this Garage Session, join us as we talk publicly for the first time about Kate's journey of discovering and naming her sexual orientation as bisexual. While it has always been a part of how she's seen herself, it wasn't until fairly recently (via a post on Instagram) that she realized this part of her was less clear—at least, explicitly so—to others in her life. May you, however you identify, find acceptance, belonging, safety and love in this special episode. THREE WAYS TO SUPPORT THE SHOW 1) Financially Express your gratitude and help with the costs of producing and growing the Show with one-time gifts or monthly backing: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/kateandcolby 2) Socially Subscribe to our channel on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPECswRcM6SUr-bwUNwuX_A Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kateandcolby​ Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kateandcolby Get our Newsletter: https://www.thekateandcolbyshow.com 3) Reviewingly Listen, Rate and Review our Podcast. - iTunes: https://apple.co/2VfFgb3 - Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2Vh4jdH - Stitcher: https://bit.ly/2VeotoT - Podbean: https://bit.ly/3fZ4yCj ——— SPECIAL THANKS TO OUR MONTHLY BARISTAS (aka, our Supporters on Buy Me A Coffee) Susan, Joel, Anna, Melanie, James, Julie, Bill, Patty, Amanda, Lisa, and Erin

Rev Jennifer Butler has the heart of a community organizer and is the founding Executive Director of Faith in Public Life, which works to change the narrative about the role of faith in politics, wins major policy victories, and empowers religious leaders to fight for the common good. We were honored to invite her on as our guest this week, but had NO idea just HOW much we would love the Reverend Jen! Her insight, charm, and heart simply blew us away. We do hope you go check out her work with Faith in Public Life (https://www.faithinpubliclife.org) as well as check out her new book, "Who Stole My Bible?" https://amzn.to/2UrCrqh ——— ALSO IN THIS EPISODE Viewer Check-in: What's one of the earliest political issues you recall caring about? Let's Discuss: We are slowly beginning to crawl out of being in a global pandemic. How do we handle such transitions? Kate & Colby discuss the importance of care and nurture as we move from one space to another during this time. ------ OTHER EPISODES TO CHECK OUT The New Evangelicals, with Tim Whitaker: https://youtu.be/MNKoAFfZfbs New Imagery for New Christianity, with Scott Erickson: https://youtu.be/eNwvGSrlocQ ——— ABOUT THE KATE & COLBY SHOW Our mission is Holistic Care for the Soul. As post-Evangelicals, and self-identifying Progressive Christians (or at least, most days), we offer unique insights into the world of relationships, spiritual practices, parenting, and more. We met when we were in Junior High, got married in 2003, and soon grew our family to four kids. Living in San Diego, we also co-Pastor the church we started in 2014, Sojourn Grace Collective: https://www.sojourngrace.com The Kate & Colby Show was a podcast first (and still is!), and is also now a LIVE Show that streams on Wednesdays at 7pm pacific. ——— THREE WAYS TO SUPPORT THE SHOW 1) Financially Express your gratitude and help with the costs of producing and growing the Show with one-time gifts or monthly backing: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/kateandcolby 2) Socially Subscribe to our channel here on Youtube Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kateandcolby​ Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kateandcolby Get our Newsletter: https://www.thekateandcolbyshow.com 3) Reviewingly Listen, Rate and Review our Podcast. - iTunes: https://apple.co/2VfFgb3 - Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2Vh4jdH - Stitcher: https://bit.ly/2VeotoT - Podbean: https://bit.ly/3fZ4yCj ——— SPECIAL THANKS TO OUR MONTHLY BARISTAS
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When Susan Cottrell was faced with the decision to either support her daughter (who'd just come out as a lesbian) or maintain alignment with her evangelical church, she chose her child. Then, she created Freed Hearts (https://www.freedhearts.org) because she knew that other people had to make similar choices, and needed resources, support, and belonging. We welcome Susan to The Kate & Colby Show with wide open hearts, astonished by her tenacious insistence to love people unconditionally. Listen in as Susan talks about her journey of discovery that sometimes in order to more closely follow Jesus we must shift away from conventional religious systems. To learn more about her story, watch her TED talk which has been viewed over one million times: https://youtu.be/rP01bH9Ljf4 ——— ALSO IN THIS EPISODE Viewer Check-in: What's one of the hardest decisions you've had to make? Who's Team Are You On?: Join in as Kate and Colby go head to head in a duel to see who viewers more closely align with. This week's topic: Around the House. Who are you, Team Kate or Team Colby? ——— ABOUT THE KATE & COLBY SHOW Our mission is Holistic Care for the Soul. As post-Evangelicals, and self-identifying Progressive Christians (or at least, most days), we offer unique insights into the world of relationships, spiritual practices, parenting, and more. We met when we were in Junior High, got married in 2003, and soon grew our family to four kids. Living in San Diego, we also co-Pastor the church we started in 2014, Sojourn Grace Collective: https://www.sojourngrace.com The Kate & Colby Show was a podcast first (and still is!), and is also now a LIVE Show that streams on Wednesdays at 7pm pacific. ——— THREE WAYS TO SUPPORT THE SHOW 1) Financially Express your gratitude and help with the costs of producing and growing the Show with one-time gifts or monthly backing: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/kateandcolby 2) Socially Subscribe to our channel here on Youtube Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kateandcolby​ Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kateandcolby Get our Newsletter: https://www.thekateandcolbyshow.com 3) Reviewingly Listen, Rate and Review our Podcast. - iTunes: https://apple.co/2VfFgb3 - Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2Vh4jdH - Stitcher: https://bit.ly/2VeotoT - Podbean: https://bit.ly/3fZ4yCj ——— SPECIAL THANKS TO OUR MONTHLY BARISTAS
(aka, our Supporters on Buy Me A Coffee) Susan, Joel, Anna, Melanie, James, Julie, Bill, Patty, Amanda, Lisa

When Matthew Lovegood posted a video-sermon on TikTok--while transforming into Flamy Grant--he had no clue it would go on to be viewed almost one million times (see it here: https://tinyurl.com/flamyontiktok) Since then, @FlamyGrant has become one of the platform's leading #postevangelical Drag Spirituality Polygendered Preachers. Also, she's a dear friend of Kate & Colby's. Join us for what will sure to be a night of laughter, tears, and a-ha moments as Flamy shares how Matthew grew up knowing that there was a Flamy inside him, but religion and culture squashed her. Now, as an adult, s/he's out to eff-up gender and liberate people from harmful religious ideas. ——— ALSO THIS EPISODE Viewer Check-in: What is a skill you acquired during Quarantine? Consumer Report: We share what we've been watching, reading, and listening to! ——— ABOUT THE KATE & COLBY SHOW Our mission is Holistic Care for the Soul. As post-Evangelicals, and self-identifying Progressive Christians (or at least, most days), we offer unique insights into the world of relationships, spiritual practices, parenting, and more. We met when we were in Junior High, got married in 2003, and soon grew our family to four kids. Living in San Diego, we also co-Pastor the church we started in 2014, Sojourn Grace Collective: https://www.sojourngrace.com The Kate & Colby Show was a podcast first (and still is!), and is also now a LIVE Show that streams on Wednesdays at 7pm pacific. ——— THREE WAYS TO SUPPORT THE SHOW 1) Financially Express your gratitude and help with the costs of producing and growing the Show with one-time gifts or monthly backing: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/kateandcolby 2) Socially Subscribe to our channel here on Youtube Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kateandcolby​ Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kateandcolby Get our Newsletter: https://www.thekateandcolbyshow.com 3) Reviewingly Listen, Rate and Review our Podcast. - iTunes: https://apple.co/2VfFgb3 - Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2Vh4jdH - Stitcher: https://bit.ly/2VeotoT - Podbean: https://bit.ly/3fZ4yCj ——— SPECIAL THANKS TO OUR MONTHLY BARISTAS
(aka, our Supporters on Buy Me A Coffee) Susan, Joel, Anna, Melanie, James, Julie, Bill, Patty, Amanda, Lisa

What do you do in a close relationship when one of you starts shifting to new/different ideas and beliefs? Maybe it's religious beliefs, or political… but suddenly, you (or your partner) are not on the same page anymore. Scary, right? In this Garage Session, Kate and Colby share from their experience when they began moving in different directions from the agreed-upon-script they were both given (and dutifully lived out) from their evangelical heritage. Listen in as Kate shares how, no, actually she's not just “okay” when her and Colby disagree on something. Rather, she moves through a process of discernment to figure out what the feelings are and why. It's some real good stuff, y'all. You're gonna love it. ——— ALSO IN THIS EPISODE -Our dog, Belle, struggles to let us get started. She's a needy (and loud) pup. -Kate and Colby discuss how/why the feel differently about greeting each other in the morning and wishing one another goodnight. This little convo is worth the price of admission! -The hosts reflect on how humans became so tribal (good and necessary!) and how now that mentality can work against us. ——— The GARAGE Sessions are special episodes where we pick a particular subject to discuss, share stories from the heart, and laugh while we learn to love one another. CATCH US LIVE ON WEDNESDAYS For you podcast listeners, don't forget that we stream LIVE to YouTube and Facebook, Wednesdays at 7pm PST. ——— THREE WAYS TO SUPPORT THE SHOW 1) Financially Express your gratitude and help with the costs of producing and growing the Show with one-time gifts or monthly backing: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/kateandcolby 2) Socially Subscribe to our channel here on Youtube Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kateandcolby​ Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kateandcolby Get our Newsletter: https://www.thekateandcolbyshow.com 3) Reviewingly Listen, Rate and Review our Podcast. - iTunes: https://apple.co/2VfFgb3 - Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2Vh4jdH - Stitcher: https://bit.ly/2VeotoT - Podbean: https://bit.ly/3fZ4yCj

What do you do when you're trying to raise kids in this world and you don't want them weighed down with some of the same religious baggage you had, but you also want to contribute to shaping their values and inspiring them to see what it means to show up in the world for things like justice and peace? Well, if you're Daneen Akers, you create a stunning illustrated book of modern day saints and holy troublemakers. Kate & Colby welcome their friend, Daneen, to the show to talk about, "Holy Troublemakers & Unconventional Saints." Check out the book here: https://amzn.to/3wLt9Tq ——— OTHER SEGMENTS IN THIS EPISODE Viewer Check-in: Who was one of your Heroes growing up? Celebration: Colby launched his all new UnClobber Online Courses, and we celebrate! https://unclobber.mykajabi.com/ #progressivechristianity​​ #postevangelica​l #progressivechristianchildrensbooks ——— ABOUT THE KATE & COLBY SHOW Our mission is Holistic Care for the Soul. As post-Evangelicals, and self-identifying Progressive Christians (or at least, most days), we offer unique insights into the world of relationships, spiritual practices, parenting, and more. We met when we were in Junior High, got married in 2003, and soon grew our family to four kids. Living in San Diego, we also co-Pastor the church we started in 2014, Sojourn Grace Collective: https://www.sojourngrace.com The Kate & Colby Show was a podcast first (and still is!), and is also now a LIVE Show that streams on Wednesdays at 7pm pacific. ——— THREE WAYS TO SUPPORT THE SHOW 1) Financially Express your gratitude and help with the costs of producing and growing the Show with one-time gifts or monthly backing: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/kateandcolby 2) Socially Subscribe to our channel here on Youtube Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kateandcolby​ Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kateandcolby Get our Newsletter: https://www.thekateandcolbyshow.com 3) Reviewingly Listen, Rate and Review our Podcast. - iTunes: https://apple.co/2VfFgb3 - Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2Vh4jdH - Stitcher: https://bit.ly/2VeotoT - Podbean: https://bit.ly/3fZ4yCj ---- SPECIAL THANKS TO OUR MONTHLY BARISTAS: SPECIAL THANKS TO OUR MONTHLY BARISTAS
(aka, our Supporters on Buy Me A Coffee) Susan, Joel, Anna, Melanie, James, Julie, Bill, Patty, Amanda, Lisa

Welcome to The GARAGE Sessions! Beginning with Season 6, The Kate & Colby Show became a LIVE show on YouTube and Facebook. Which we love. AND, we also miss the old days of just sitting down talking to each other about life, love, heartache, faith, and all the other good stuff. Enter, The GARAGE Sessions. These special episodes are for those of you who, like us, miss the format of Kate and Colby taking on a particular subject, or, sharing stories from the heart, or, just laughing and learning to love one another. On this episode, we explore the idea that even though within progressive land there exists high values on tolerance, the truth is that in order for that to be most fully lived out there must be a kind of intolerance toward certain ideas, beliefs, and postures. It's a tricky balance, but Colby thinks Kate is on to something when we she starts considering the work of birth and death doulas. You'll just have to listen to know what we mean.

Many of us were raised where all things sex was either ignored/repressed on one end, or made the center of the universe (in a bad way) on the other. This created so much Shame. Dr Tina Schermer Sellers is here to help.

This episode is created in part thanks to our Buy Me a Coffee supporters, aka, our Baristas!Thank you to: Bill, Julie, James, Melanie, Anna, Joel, and Susan!

If you've been around The Kate & Colby Show for even a little bit then you know we have feels about evangelicalism—the religious heritage from whence we came. So when the IG account @thenewevangelicals started popping up everywhere, we got curious. So curious, in fact, that we invited the founder, Tim Whitaker, to come on the Show and chat with us. What ensued was educational, inspiring, and gave us all dose of hope for the future. —— Other Segments in this Episode VIEWER CHECK-IN: What is something you miss about your previous church days? COCKTAILS WITH COLBY: We edited this segment out of the audio podcast, so make sure to see how Colby created the Bleedin' Hot Margarita over on YouTube: https://youtu.be/MNKoAFfZfbs?t=1045 —— Support The Kate & Colby Show financially at: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/kateandcolby Other ways to Support: Subscribe to our channel on Youtube:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPECswRcM6SUr-bwUNwuX_A Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kateandcolby​ follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kateandcolby Get our newsletter at: https://www.thekateandcolbyshow.com​ and always know what's up and what's coming up #progressivechristianity​​ #postevangelica​l #progressivechristianparenting​#lgbtqaffirming #newevangelicals

From skincare to soul care, heartache to home decor, mixed bevies to messy feels, The Rev Sarah Heath and The Kevin Garcia (aka, Your Favorite Aunts) are here to slay. Join us as we romp through the weird world of spirituality, sexuality, psychology, and fun, all the while receiving permission to enjoy and create a righteous ruckus. Check out Your Favorite Aunts podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/your-favorite-aunts/id1558511974 —— VIEWER CHECK-IN: Who were your fav aunt/uncle growing up? WHO'S TEAM ARE YOU ON: Team Colby has suffered humiliating defeat every time we've played this game. Is tonight finally the night he earns his three stars? NEW SHORT FILM: Colby shares a new short-film he debuted, his love letter to post-conservative Christians. You can check it out here: https://youtu.be/Df9FP4p_npc ---- Support The Kate & Colby Show financially at: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/kateandcolby Other ways to Support: Subscribe to our channel on Youtube:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPECswRcM6SUr-bwUNwuX_A Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kateandcolby​ follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kateandcolby Get our newsletter at: https://www.thekateandcolbyshow.com​ and always know what's up and what's coming up #progressivechristianity​​ #postevangelica​l #progressivechristianparenting​#lgbtqaffirming

Support The Kate & Colby Show financially at: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/kateandcolbyOther ways to Support:Subscribe to our channel on Youtube:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPECswRcM6SUr-bwUNwuX_ALike us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kateandcolby​follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kateandcolbyGet our newsletter at: https://www.thekateandcolbyshow.com​ and always know what's up and what's coming up

Joining the show this week is author, podcaster, and revolution starter, Cindy Wang Brandt! (https://cindywangbrandt.com) Cindy has stirred up all sorts of good, holy trouble in the world of parenting--specifically as it relates to trying to raise children without the baggage of religious fundamentalism. We (Kate & Colby) can't get enough of important conversations around raising children to be compassionate, kind, and emotionally balanced. We were amazed at how much alignment Cindy and us have when it comes to treating kids as fully human worthy of respect, and trust, and freedom. We highly recommend Cindy's book, Parenting Forward, for all you Progressive Christian parents out there! https://www.amazon.com/Parenting-Forward-Children-Justice-Kindness/dp/080287603X ---- Other Segments in this Episode VIEWER CHECK-IN: What do you wish you knew THEN that you know NOW as a parent? WHAT'S GIVING YOU LIFE? Kate shares about the book, "See No Stranger" (https://www.amazon.com/See-No-Stranger-Manifesto-Revolutionary/dp/0525509097) and Colby shares about the book, "Hunting Magic Eels" (https://www.amazon.com/Hunting-Magic-Eels-Recovering-Enchanted/dp/1506464653) ---- Support The Kate & Colby Show financially at: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/kateandcolby Other ways to Support: Subscribe to our channel on Youtube:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPECswRcM6SUr-bwUNwuX_A Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kateandcolby​ follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kateandcolby Get our newsletter at: https://www.thekateandcolbyshow.com​ and always know what's up and what's coming up!

Our favorite painter/digital artist, Scott Erickson (@scottthepainter) joins us LIVE to share his heart for making new imagery, new symbols, to express a type of Christianity that is more generous, compassionate, and just. Plus, we laugh a lot, because we've known Scott for years and his presence is like a cozy blanket and hot tea for our souls. We hope you enjoy hearing (or watching over on YouTube!) our conversation with Scott, because we sure enjoyed having it.

LGBTQ Coach and Sexual Revolutionist, Coach Yeamah joined the show and absolutely made our day (week? month?!). Phew, so good. We promise, you've never heard someone so liberated, so free, and so passionate as Coach. She is insistent (and persuasive) about the truth that God made us to feel good—and that's a premise that we here at The Kate & Colby Show can totally get down with. Go check her out and follow her on Instagram: @coachyeamah ---- Other Segments in this Episode VIEWER CHECK-IN: Tell us about your First Kiss. WHO'S TEAM ARE YOU ON: Colby tries to finally win a round. The topic this time? “Public Behavior.” ---- Subscribe to The Kate & Colby Show on Youtube Like our Page on FB: https://www.facebook.com/kateandcolby;​ and follow us on IG: https://www.instagram.com/kateandcolby;​ subscribe to our newsletter at: https://www.thekateandcolbyshow.com;​ that way you'll always know what's up and what's coming up! #progressivechristianity​ #deconstruction #soulcare

Desert Voices podcast is all about sparking curiosity and boldly exploring spirituality, all for the sake of contributing to human flourishing. So, you know, small goals.

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Lauren DeLeary and Adam Frost used to be aaaallll the way in the world of Christian (Evangelical) music... and, well, NOW THEY A'INT! Now, they want to help start or continue conversations about the messy parts of life, specifically as it relates to the process of deconstructing an evangelical upbringing. Which, obviously, is right up our alley! Making them a clear and obvious (and lovely) choice to have on the show! Check out their Podcast at: https://anchor.fm/deconstructpod Follow them on IG at: https://www.instagram.com/deconstruct.pod/?hl=en ---- Other Segments in this Episode VIEWER CHECK-IN: What crew did you roll with in High School? CONSUMER REPORT: In which we suggest to you things we've been watching, listening to, and reading. ---- Subscribe to The Kate & Colby Show on Youtube,https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPECswRcM6SUr-bwUNwuX_ALike our Page on FB: https://www.facebook.com/kateandcolby;​ and follow us on IGhttps://www.instagram.com/kateandcolby;​ subscribe to our newsletter at: https://www.thekateandcolbyshow.com;​ that way you'll always know what's up and what's coming up!

We are joined by Candice Czubernat, founder of the nation's premiere LGBTQ telehealth organization, The Christian Closet (thechristiancloset.com) Candice became a dear friend of ours when (among other things) she visited Sojourn Grace years ago, was a brilliant guest speaker, and challenged us as leaders to be MORE clear about just how open and affirming our faith community is. And she was/is RIGHT! That sort of clarity is desperately needed. We talked about all sorts of good things, such as: when she told us about some of the gifts of being queer; how an LGBTQ person can navigate the complexities of a family that doesn't accept them, and why tele-health is actually really, really good and important. ---- Other Segments in this Episode VIEWER CHECK-IN: What's your go-to snack? COCKTAILS WITH COLBY: Colby shows you how to make a brand new cocktail he just created for Valentine's Day: 2 oz Gin, 1 oz Campari, 4 oz Blood Orange juice freshly squeezed from the blood oranges on our tree (if you can get 'em). HELP US DECIDE: And then we invited viewers to help us decide the name for said Valentine's Cocktails. Because Colby's original idea sucked.

We are joined by Jared Byas, co-host of the wildly popular "The Bible for Normal People Podcast" as well as author of the recent book, "Love Matters More.” Together we dive in to topics such as the three different kinds of "truth," as well as why it is that people are more likely to change when they are accepted as opposed to judged. Other Segments in this Episode Include VIEWER CHECK-IN: What's your comfort TV show? LET'S DISCUSS: Kate and Colby discuss our culture's current relationship with technology (in which we show the video of "I'm Not a Cat," where one lawyer accidentally has a cat filter on his zoom!) WHO'S TEAM YOU ON?: We debut this new segment in which we invite viewers to pick a side, Team Kate or Colby, depending on who you're more like. Tonight's topics are around Food and Drink (spoiler alert: Team Kate dominates) Subscribe to The Kate & Colby Show on Youtube, Like our Page on FB and follow us on IG that way you'll always know what's up and what's coming up!

The Kate & Colby Show is joined LIVE by best-selling author, activist, and personal hero of the hosts, Brian McLaren. Brian joined us to talk about his most recent book, “Faith After Doubt: Why Your Beliefs Stopped Working and What to Do About it.” We had an incredible time talking with him about the stages of faith, the important role of doubt, and how it is that so much of our country feels massively divided. (If you'd like to watch the full episode, visit our YouTube Page at: https://bit.ly/2NZhUpo) Join us Wednesdays at 7pm Pacific LIVE!

The Kate & Colby Show LIVE kicks off a brand new, bigger than ever season! Every Wednesday night at 7pm PST we go LIVE on YouTube and FB to do “Holistic Care for the Soul.” For season 6 we are bringing in one amazing human after another, all who do incredible work in helping others care for their Soul. For this Season Premiere episode we are joined by special guest Brenda Marie Davies, aka, “God is Grey,” a fabulous YouTuber and Podcaster who helps guide people toward a shame-free, sex positive faith. We hope you continue to enjoy the podcast AND will join us LIVE on Wednesday nights at 7pm. Watch/Subscribe on YouTube at: https://join.kateandcolby.com/youtube Watch/Like on Facebook at: https://join.kateandcolby.com/facebook Learn more about Brenda at: https://godisgrey.com

Best Selling author of multiple Children's Books, including “When God Made You” and “When I Pray for You,” Matthew Paul Turner joins the show to talk about (among other things) his newest work, “All the Colors of Christmas.” On tonight's show we do a Viewer Check-in about your “irrational” fear (then debate the usage of the term “irrational”). During the “What's Giving you Life” segment, Colby shares about his recent losing streak at all things. The Kate & Colby Show goes LIVE on Wednesdays at 7pm Pacific on YouTube and Facebook. Subscribe to the podcast on iTunes or wherever you get your pods. Thanks for being our PodPham!

Recipe for The Scofflaw:2oz Bourborn1oz Dry Vermouth3/4 oz Fresh squeezed lemon3/4 oz grenadine3 dashes orange bittersShake with iceServe straight upGarnish with lemon peel

No one is “grateful” for the coronavirus pandemic and subsequent quarantine life. AND, also, there have been things that have happened during—and as a result of—it that, well, we might really be thankful for. In this week's show, Kate and Colby discuss navigating that tension. Of honoring and holding space for life's Lemons, but also being grateful for the Lemonade. PLUS: We ask for your help deciding how much Christmas music is enough/too much?

On this week's live Kate & Colby Show we welcome special guest Ben Grace! Ben is a singer-songwriter based out of San Diego who's first full length album, "As if Words Could Heal the Wounds" just recently dropped. It's a gorgeous exploration of love, loss, and the complexities of the human soul. Plus, Kate and Colby check in with you about how your hair is doing; what is saving their soul right now; and ask you to help them see who is more/less normal when it comes to SMELLS. Tune in LIVE on Wednesdays at 7pm Pacific.

It's the night after the 2020 Election, we sat down, turned on the camera, and invited you—our Pod Pham—to sit and be with us. Thanks for sharing the space with us as we shared how the watching of the election results impacted our souls. Plus, we shared some things that are steadying our souls at the moment: For Kate, “The is Us” on ABC. For Colby, Rob Bell's new book, “Everything is Spiritual.” Join us LIVE on Wednesdays at 7pm on our Youtube or Facebook pages.

Maybe you, like us, grew up in a religious context where “justice” was basically just something God would deal with—and much later down the road. In this episode, we share how our evolving beliefs led us to understand that seeking justice HERE and NOW is very, very much a part of what it means to have and do Faith. If God hears the cries of the oppressed, and if we are how God moves in the world, then its up to us to do something about injustice.

Last week we described faith as, “The things we choose to believe, which inform how we choose to act.” Some people weren't digging our use of the word “choice.” So in this message, we explore how much agency do we really have in terms of what we believe and how we act. Is it really our “choice?” Such a fascinating conversation.

Can we talk about FAITH for a bit? What IS it? Why do we have it? How do we practice it? In this episode, we share a talk that we gave together at Sojourn Grace Collective exploring two lexical categories of the word faith: as a noun and a verb. Sometimes we need to swing the pendulum from one usage to another as we round out what it means to have/do faith.

Our religious heritage taught us to mistrust our emotions, thus creating a whirlwind of shame and confusion. In this, our final of a three part series on emotional wellbeing and intelligence, we dig in to how Christianity contributed to the emotional stunting of its adherents. Plus, Colby shares about the only 3 times he can remember crying as a kid/teenager/young adult. And Kate takes on the “head vs heart” false dichotomy. The Kate and Colby show is recorded in San Diego and produced by Wholly Living Studios. Don't forget to subscribe, rate, review! (Song during the episode is “Peace Be Still” by The Hunts)

Myth: Woman have too many emotions, Men have none. Can we talk about that, please? What if ALL humans have deep emotional realities, but women (for a number of reasons) tend to be more connected/in-tune with them than men. Kate shares how society contributes to this dynamic, and Colby shares how he spent most of his life completely detached from his emotions. Plus, have you heard of #Gaslighting? Let's talk about it. Produced by Wholly Living Studios in San Diego. Subscribe, rate, and review!

Have you ever been told “stop being so emotional?” Or maybe thought, “wow, that person isn't thinking with their head, they're being controlled by their emotions.” In this episode, Kate and Colby dive in to this phenomenon, where society often over values what we call “rational thinking” and under vales our emotional capacity. This often shows up in gendered stereotypes as well (which Kate and Colby happen to fulfill rather predictably, so we need to talk about THAT, yes? ;) Subscribe to make sure you get more great content like this, including next week's Part 2 of this topic!

In this mini-episode, Colby offers a guided meditation focused on identifying and moving through a defensive response. Specially designed for this moment, those of us who are white are being challenged right now to learn better how to listen and learn about racial injustice WITHOUT getting defensive about it. For some of us, that's easier said than done. We hope this guided meditation will help you in this effort.

So about that whole “perfectionism” thing… yeah, let's talk about that. Both of us are perfectionists, but each in our own unique way. Learn as Kate encourages us to not try and do away with those parts of us, but rather try and turn up the things to help us find balance. Plus: an insightful conversation about the illusion of a “perfect fit” in relationships. Also, episode includes more original meditations written by Kate. So that's a win.

We are BAAAACK! Hey PodPham, we've missed you. And since we've been apart, a lot has happened… most notably, a worldwide viral sensation known as COVID-19. We are kicking off our brand new season by talking openly about what life has been like for us during quarantine. Turns out, it's been quite the Teacher. In this episode we talk about mental health and depression, perfectionism and over-identifying with work. As always, we hope to have real talk about things that matter, all in hopes of helping you come more alive. Also in the episode, several all-new reading mediations from Kate. Make sure to Like us Facebook, follow us on Instagram, and subscribe to our newsletter at kateandcolby.com Thanks for joining us once again!

In our first season of this podcast, we used to end each episode with a quick example of a piece of art, a book, a quote, or something else that was making us come alive—i.e., inspiring, motivating, and moving us. We haven't done that in awhile, but today that changes. Here's a whole entire episode of us sharing all the things that are giving us major energy right now. From magic shows to children's TV to old-fashioned dating, come along as we share a few of our favorite things.

Hello Pod Pham, we're just so happy to introduce you to some of our favorite people this week! Yes, Erica and Logan Martin are family (Colby and Logan are brothers), but that's far from the only reason why we wanted to sit down and have a conversation with them. They have an incredible story about their journey together and as individuals as they've navigated a lot of loss in leaving church and a lot of new life on the other side. These are beautiful people doing beautiful work in the world, and we think you ought to know about them. Thanks for listening!https://www.talewindvisuals.com

Pod Pham! We are so, so delighted to bring you today's conversation. Welcome Paula Stone Williams: pastor, counselor, coach, speaker, and so much more. We have both been so lucky to get to know Paula as a friend—she is a kind, wise, straight shooter who has done so much to help us come more alive. If you haven't encountered her yet, it's a treat to make the introduction; and if you have, we bet you'll still find some powerful resonance with the stories she shares in today's really special interview.https://paulastonewilliams.com/Paula's TedX Talk

Pod Pham, check it out: For the first time in our show's history we have guests! In this rambunctious and oft-tangented (but the tangents are GOOD, dangit!) episode we sit down with the co-hosts of one of our favorite podcasts, Heathen: Spiritual Conversations for the Godless. Matthew Blake and Karyn Thurston host an incredible podcast that creates sacred space for those who have history with either leaving or being exiled from their faith community. Full of laughs, inappropriate comments, and free-therapy, this episode is a keeper.

Gardening & woodworking & parenting, oh my. We love the metaphors that kinder-gardener Alison Gopnik shared on a recent episode of NPR's Hidden Brain podcast, and it sparked our own discussion about raising children. Let's talk the relatively new idea of "parenting," and what we can learn from the art of gardening.