You're Wrong with Ian and Bobby

The guys talk about Black Widow. In a shocking Phase 4 reversal, Ian's a little bit harder on this one than Bobby. The guys can at least agree that this movie is a pretty stale consolation prize for a character who has been with us since nearly the beginning.

After a hiatus, we are back! And so are Falcon and the Winter Soldier. What happens when Disney and the MCU try to tackle the real world implications of having a Captain America while also dipping a toe into the complicated and messy conversation about America's relationship with racism? You get this series. It certainly is a series! That is an undeniable fact. Anyway, it's been awhile since the guys recorded this and Bobby has clearly forgotten a lot of the conversation so he's just editorializing here. Next week...a movie!

We'll go ahead and ignore your Agents of SHIELD and your Agent Carters. And your Daredevils and Defenders. And also your Runaways. Was Cloak and Dagger part of the MCU? Listen, Marvel has been pushing TV projects basically since the first Avengers movie, so it's kind of bizarre that they are treating these Disney+ shows like they're the MCU's first foray into television. Anyway, here's Wandavision! Ian and Bobby both appreciate that two of the strongest actors in the MCU get to finally flex their skills, and also love the big creative swing this one takes. Next time...even more TV!

After a prolonged break, we're back and ready to tackle the post-Endgame MCU. Tom Holland's Spider-Man has largely been defined by his relationship to Tony Stark. So what happens when Tony Stark is removed from the equation? Ian and Bobby argue about it, obviously. Enjoy the last MCU entry to have been released before the world went absolutely insane.

Here it is, the Endgame of all your good intentions. I literally can't believe that Avatar is the highest grossing movie of all time.

The guys tackle the MCU's first female-led superhero movie. Bobby apparently hates women.

Here's the film follow-up the entire world was clamoring for! Marvel's biggest A-lister, hot off his mega-hit movie, returns for a sequel--and this time he's got his girlfriend! What's the deal with Ant-Man and the Wasp anyway. Are they official? Are they seeing other people? Here's a movie where the lead is actually its septuagenarian star, but the script constantly tries to distract you from that with every other character. Here's a movie where its sympathetic villain cackles with bloodlust over the thought of killing a young child. Here's a film where Walton Goggins is called in to run around and goggins all over the place, even if he has no actual place in the action. And here, also,  is a film where Luis remains the greatest MCU character of all time. All jokes aside, the guys agree that this movie is pretty good. Next week...something Marvelous!

Ian and Bobby tackle Infinity War. Or Avengers 3. Or Endgame Part 1. Bobby is up to usually shenanigans and hates this movie. Everyone rolls their eyes and Bobby begs to understand why this movie is so well regarded. Listen, Bobby's wrong. If you're going to support the output of one of the biggest and most evil corporations in the world, why even try to make a distinction in quality. If the governing principle of the creation of the MCU was "Hey, maybe one day Hulk and Iron Man America can punch things together", have we not arrived? What do you even want out of this? The Great Mouse put the talking raccoon on Thor's shoulder. Are you not entertained? Should this film not be exempt from the same criteria that every other filmed is judged by? Captain America has a cool new shield he can stab people with. Shut up and take your medicine.

Wakanda Forever! Ian and Bobby do Black Panther! What's to say? It's Black Panther. It's the MCU film that became a cultural zeitgeist, made T'Challa a household name, cemented the late Chadwick Boseman's legacy, spawned #KillmongerWasRight, and got itself a bunch of Oscar nominations, including one for Best Picture. The guys are pretty much in agreement that this movie rocks. Next week, it all culminates in an Infinity War.

It's the end of the world as Thor knows it, and he doesn't actually feel great about. Here's the dour movie an entire chunk of Age of Ultron teased and it's...not actually very dour at all. Unlike the other Thor movies, Ian and Bobby agree that Thor Ragnarok is kind of great. The MCU finally decides to go all in on Chris Hemsorth's comedic chops and Taika Waititi delivers one of the funniest but also one of the most thoughtful MCU movies. Next week: Wakanda Forever!

Spidey's home baybeeeee! It had been a two years since Tom Holland's appearance in Civil War and an amazing four years since Andrew Garfield's turn as the webslinger. We were dangerously close to violating the contract we made with the Ancient Ones, which stipulates that in order to maintain planetary order, we have to make a Spider-Man movie every two years. This one's different though, because unlike those other movies, Spider-Man is in high school. Well, except for the first Tobey Maguire Spider-Man movie. And except for both of the Andrew Garfield ones. And Into the Spider-Verse...except for that one too. Next week, Thor sees the end of the world!

Ian and Bobby tackle our favorite interstellar gang's second entry into the MCU. In this entry, James Gunn has once again put together a compilation album for the ages, guaranteed to please dads from Terran and the whole universe over. Have questions answered such as how fine a girl, exactly, is Brandy? If you don't love me now, will you love me again? When will it be time to make a change? And lastly, have we been sleeping on Zardu Hasslefrau's career as a music sensation? The guys talk about these hits, as well as the 2-hour music video James Gunn lovingly crafted to go along them. Next week, our webslinger friend Comes Home.

Doctor Strange is everyone's favorite MCU character. Benedict Cumberbatch's unbelievably compelling performance has made the sorcerer supreme a beloved household name. People from all over the world have made the pilgrimage to Disney theme parks to line up for the chance to meet him in person. In the United States, congress has moved to make both Stephen Strange and Benedict Cumberbatch's birthdays national holidays. Rachel McAdams was awarded an Academy Award for best supporting actress for her moving performance in this film. Countries all around the world are throwing out their governing documents and replacing it with this masterpiece by Scott Derrickson. In all honesty this movie is fine. Ian and Bobby gear up to fight about this movie but pretty much agree on its okay-ness. I swear to god it makes for a compelling listen, though. Our next movie sees the film debut of Spider-Man. Wait. What was that? Sorry, the film debut of Spider-Man in the 2010s. Oh...oh, I see. Well, the only Spider-Man film of 2017.

Captain America and Iron Man face their biggest threat yet - the dissolution of their friendship. In this, one of the most beloved MCU films, Captain America is like "I love Bucky" but then Iron Man is like "wtf bro, I thought we were buds??" and then Cap is like "bruh, we are, but Bucky and I go way back" and then Iron Man is all like iron mad and stuff and then blows up an airport. Ian and Bobby talk about some of the insanity in this movie, gush about its better characters, and then build up to a civil war of their own because Bobby is starting to trash the MCU more like the disgusting traitor he is. Strange things are afoot next episode.

Ant-Man had one of the most storied productions in the MCU, surviving delays and creative team changes. But is it any good? Ian and Bobby debate the merits of Yellow Jacket, try to pick apart what Edgar Wright contributed, wonder why Wasp wasn't just the hero anyway, and get into a little too much detail about the bullet-to-ant size ratio.

Ian and Bobby are near the end of Phase Two with the second Avengers outing. Age of Ultron is oft maligned, but the guys agree that it shouldn't be maligned as oft, because the movie kind of rocks. The guys have discuss Whedon's strengths, his real bummer fatal flaws, and his apparent weird hangups with pregnant women. But seriously, how awesome is James Spader as Ultron? Next time...we finish off Phase Two with Ant-Man!

Ooga chaka ooga chaka ooga ooga ooga chaka! Ian and Bobby jump into James Gunn's space opera Guardians of the Galaxy. The guys basically agree that this movie rocks, but just how important is this film within the grand scheme of the MCU? How important is our existence within the grand scheme of the universe? Is there any meaning to life, or are we just hurtling through space on a gigantic rock by sheer cosmic coincidence. One or more of those questions will be answered! Next time...we enter the Age of Ultron!

Captain America: The Winter Soldier is regarded by many as one of the best MCU films. Ian and Bobby dig in to see how well this one has aged. How does Cap fare in the modern world? What is with Sharon? Will Steve and Bucky ever kiss? Will Bobby ever shut up about violence in the MCU? (No.) Next time...we meet the Guardians of the Galaxy

Ian and Bobby dig into the film that is widely regarded as one of the worst films in the MCU. Does it have any redeeming value? Maybe? If there's one thing that Ian and Bobby can always agree on, it's that Darcy is the best. Next up...Winter Soldier!

Ian and Bobby enter Phase 2! The guys unite in their appreciation of this underrated MCU gem. Is it as good as they thought it once was? Probably not. But you, dear listener, are almost certainly wrong about it. Is this the end of Tony Stark's arc? Are the villains interesting? And who the heck is running the country in the MCU?

Here it is - the end of Phase One! Ian and Bobby revisit the song that basically kicked off the MCU as we know it today. The guys discuss how these disparate characters work sharing the spotlight, touch upon the strengths and problematic weaknesses of Joss Whedon's work, and debate just how good of a villain Loki is. Next week...the start of Phase Two and one of the MCU's most controversial films!

Ian and Bobby watch Captain America: The First Avenger. Come for the discussion about how this film is an underrated MCU gem. Stay for the drawn out debate over whether or not Captain America is too violent. Coming up: The Avengers!!

Ian and Bobby come to blows for the first time in their MCU rewatch journey. Tune in to explore the real important issues like whether or not Chris Hemsworth and Natalie Portman have chemistry, whether Anthony Hopkins is miscast as Odin, and how much of this movie is carried by Tom Hiddleston's performance. Next episode - we meet the first Avenger!

Ian and Bobby are almost halfway through Phase One! Nobody ever really talks about Tony Stark's second MCU outing. Is it Phase One's hidden gem? Is Sam Rockwell always good? What's with Mickey Rourke's bird? Does the MCU have a third act problem? Is Randy's Donuts overrated? Tune in for the answers to some of these questions, and also the answers to some other questions.

The guys continue their MCU rewatch with a film that has sort has been disowned from the MCU. What's the deal with Edward Norton's Bruce Banner? Is Blonsky a good villain? Is Elizabeth Taylor in this movie? Would a production line shut down if a drop of blood landed in a soda bottle? Ian and Bobby ponder these questions and more.

The guys embark on a long MCU rewatch journey. Is there any abuse the MCU can dole out that Ian won't suffer? Will Bobby be insufferable grumpy through the whole thing? Join in as Ian and Bobby watch the movie that started it all: Iron Man (2008) directed by Jon Favreau.

As quarantine continues, Ian and Bobby discuss the things they've been doing to keep themselves sane. The guys have been watching movies together in quarantine and take a moment to discuss what they've watched. They explore their evolving relationship with Kevin Smith movies and Ian revisits one of his favorite VHS rental classics.

The guys are back for their first podcast recorded during the quarantine, and they decide to do a king sized episode about Damien Lindelof's HBO adaptation/sequel of Moore and Gibbons Watchmen.   After gushing about the ways in which the series works as an adaptation, Ian analyzes his favorite new characters, Bobby rolls his eyes at Peteypedia, and they both marvel at the cast, writing, and score of this fascinating series. Oh and Ian talks. A lot. Media Discussed: Animal Crossing, Zoe's Extraordinary Playlist, Final Fantasy IIV Remake, Watchmen

Bobby and Ian recorded this episode pre-pandemic, and it has aged really poorly. Maybe Bobby shouldn't take several months to edit an episode next time. I mean, what excuse does he even have? It's not like he has lots of places to go.  If you want to listen to two guys, blissfully unaware of the future, offer their measured takes on one of the most famous IPs of all time, then please give us a try.

After getting obsessed with the HBO Watchmen series, the guys decide to back to the start and look at Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons' seminal graphic novel that started it all. After going down memory lane regarding their own personal journeys with Watchmen, the guys try to address not only the book itself, but the cultural contexts it created, both positive and negative, in an attempt to nail down the book's legacy and repercussions.  Then Ian and Bobby go full negative to talk about their varied frustrations with Zach Snyder's film adaptation of the series.  Keep an eye out for an episode on HBO's miniseries soon!

The guys talk about video games like they do. Ian's into Fire Emblem and Bobby's into Super Nintendo games. Then, the guys go deep into Superbad and the two most recent twists on the teen sex comedy genre--Booksmart and Good Boys. (Listen, I get it. Good Boys isn't a teen comedy. Save it for Twitter.) Pop culture discussed: Fire Emblem: Three Houses, Pilotwings, Superbad, Booksmart, and Good Bays

After an extended hiatus, Bobby and Ian are back with a new title and a new look to their show! After realizing that it's sort of hard to do a podcast centered on arguing when you agree with your co-host about everything, the guys have rebranded, and start off their new show by focusing on one of the most impressive television accomplishments to take place in the last 10 years, a four season long musical theater comedy about mental health, Aline Brosh McKenna and Rachel Bloom's Crazy Ex Girlfriend. After marveling at the extended cast of triple threats, the incredibly sweet and humanity loving worldview of the show, Ian and Bobby tackle an impossible task: picking their five favorite songs from a list of over 150 musical numbers.  

The guys have a very careful, heavily redacted conversation about Infinity War, because there is a gigantic gap between recording and publishing this podcast. The guys also have an adorably dated conversation in the wake of the third (3rd) episode of Game of Thrones Season 8. For the main event, the guys talk about indie RPG Undertale, a beloved game that they have just gotten around to to playing. Finally: This is the last episode of YOU'RE WRONG WITH IAN AND BOBBY before it's rebooted to AND WHAT ARE YOU INTO? We'll be using the same podcast feed, so you don't have to do a thing, but thanks for joining us on this ride and we look forward to whatever our new iteration is! Pop Culture Discussed: Infinity War, Game of Thrones, KCRW's Lost Notes, and Hadestown.

This week the guys tackle Ian's animation Holy Grail and discuss the coming-of-age adventures of three kids, an angry disgraced teenaged prince, a flying lemur, and a magical water buffalo. Then Ian discovers that Bobby hasn't seen like half the series and proceeds to lecture him for way too long about what makes it so good. Media Discussed: Cats, Crazy Ex Girlfriend, Shazam!, Pokemon, The Wire.

The guys have a *VERY SPOILERY* discussion about Doctor Who! Listen. If you like this podcast, and you like Doctor Who, you'll probably be fine with this episode. Don't make me spell everything out. Next Week...Avatar: The Last Airbender! I know the episode says Undertale, but we don't have the best track record with playing video games we say we're going to play.

This week Ian and Bobby decide to become much more mainstream and relatable by spending their entire podcast rambling about the bizarre, amazing, and malformed video game bastard offspring of Disney and Square Enix. That's what normal people spend their time talking about right? Media Discussed: Kingdom Hearts 1, Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories, Kingdom Hearts: 358/2 Days, Kingdom Hearts 2, Kingdom Hearts: Dream Drop Distance, Kingdom Hearts: Fragmentary Passage, Kingdom Hearts 3...Does anybody else smell toast?

The guys spend a half hour talking about nothing. Ian wants Bobby to watch Sex Education, but Bobby is a child. Finally, the guys talk about their favorite movies of yesteryear. Spoilers: neither of them picks Green Book. Popular culture discussed: Birthday Boys, Wild Horses, Smash Bros Ultimate, Teen Titans Go! to the Movies, Conan Without Boarders, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Sex Education, Incredibles 2, Mandy, Overload, Paddington 2, Annihilation, Eighth Grade, Hereditary, Spider-Man: Into the Spiderverse, Bumblebee Pink Cadillac by tubebackr | https://soundcloud.com/tubebackr Music promoted by https://www.free-stock-music.com Attribution-NoDerivs 3.0 Unported (CC BY-ND 3.0) https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/3.0/

This week, after the guys catch up on podcasts, tv shows and video games, they dive deep into J Michael Straczynski and John Romita Jr.'s initial run on everyone's favorite underdog superhero, discussing the awesomeness of Aunt May, what makes Peter so compelling, and of course, talking about Spider-Man's thoughts on 9/11 (No, really.) Media Discussed: Red Dead Redemption 2, The Habitat, Supernatural, and Serial.

The guys brace themselves for upcoming changes to the podcast and also how wonder any of their opinions will age. Ian is playing Red Dead Redemption 2, which is a very unique and interesting thing to do. Bobby tries to explain YouTube culture to Ian and just ends up embarrassing himself. Finally, the guys talk about the first season of Survivor. Popular culture discussed: Red Dead Redemption 2, Pokemon Let's Go, Jake Paul, Shane Dawson

This week the guys walk on eggshells during a harrowing discussion of sexual assault in fiction, and Bobby comes to the very interesting and unique decision that he doesn't think Tony Soprano is a very nice guy. Then Ian goes through a journey in which he both hardens and softens in his opinion of Sondheim, and Bobby slowly deflates over the realization that Into the Woods is perhaps an imperfect film adaptation of a more interesting stage play. Media Discussed: The Good Place, Spider-Man PS4, Preacher, Detroit: Become Human, Bojack Horseman.

This week, Bobby gets pompous about his role as defect sound engineer. Ian laments how cars automatically playing tracks in alphabetical order has destroyed his relationship with Mike Birbiglia and also how he'll never be sure if Bobby is being sincere about his love for Alto's Adventure Bobby's pick is the feel-good romantic comedy Green Room. Just kidding, Green Room is ugly and terrifying. Quality content be damned, Ian has decided to make Bobby watch The Sopranos two episodes at a time until Bobby plays some stupid video game. Popular culture discussed: Mike Birbiglia, Alto's Adventure, Tiny Wings, Good Christian Fun, Night Trap

We're Back! After a fairly long summer hiatus, the guys are back. After righteously shaming Bobby for his many failings, Ian talks about Blockers, the most woke teen sex comedy ever made. Next, Bobby brings the Simpsons documentary The Problem with Apu, and the guys have a real discussion about identity politics and fandom. Pop Culture Discussed: Octopath Traveler, Sonic Mania, South Park: Phone Destroyer, Sorry to Bother You, and Football 17776.

It's been awhile! The guys argue about the difficulty of pronouncing Obama staffer names. Ian teases Bobby for enjoying Netflix romcoms. Bobby teases Ian about his dumb comic books. After that, it's all about unlikely heroes and villains! Bobby brings Cobra Kai, the YouTube Red follow-up to Karate Kid. The guys discuss their relationship to the original film and the nature of humanizing villains. Finally, Ian's pick is the hit Netflix series GLOW. The guys talk about the genius of the show's casting, typecasting hero and villain roles, and how Marc Maron isn't actually as problematic as we think he is. Pop Culture Discussed: Who Thought This Was a Good Idea by Alyssa Mastramonaco, Set it Up, Gotham Central

The guys are recording in person this week and are way too thrown by that. After gushing about his favorite comedy currently on tv, even though apparently he doesn't know who created it, Ian talks with Bobby about Brooklyn 99 and police representation. Then Bobby brings the experimental Florence into the conversation and Ian points out that Bobby seems to really enjoy depressing stories about relationships. Both of the guys generally use the word "Woke" too much. Pop Culture Discussed: Hamilton, Uncharted, Solo, Feminist Frequency

It's a Marvel Comics episode! Bobby brings a bleak domestic drama about magical robots and Ian brings a tale of one man's promise to murder all the bad guys. Pop Culture Discussed: The Royal Wedding, Hyrule Warriors, God of War, Evil Genius

This week the guys go long again since apparently that's what they do when it's Ian's turn to edit. After talking way too much about the merits of Aaron Sorkin, Bobby introduces Ian to Enlightened, a fascinating character study into self improvement in the modern age. Then Ian and Bobby discuss Preacher and the razor's edge of acceptable dark humor. Then, after being on their best behavior for most of the show, the guys spend another hour talking about video games. Media discussed: God of War, West Wing, Blockers, YouTube game design, Pokemon Go, Monster Hunter World, Arrested Development Season 4 Remix

After last week’s excessively long episode, the guys jump right into it. Bobby’s pick is the viral Adult Swim short Too Many Cooks, which Ian has never seen. However, the two end up spending half the time talking about the terrifying short Unedited Footage of a Bear instead. Next is Ian’s pick—Brigsby Bear, which is a quirky, wonderful film about one man’s relationship with a weird kid’s show. Spoilers abound, so watch the film first. Finally, the guys square off about Spielberg’s Ready Player One. It’s a film about shallow consumerism, but Ian refuses to concede because playing video games is too much fun. Bobby loses his mind over the logic behind time-traveling DeLoreans. The episode still ends up being pretty long. Popular culture discussed: Marvel Strike Force, Avengers: Infinity War (non-spoiler), Far Cry 5, Unedited Footage of a Bear

This week the guys go long and talk way too much about everything in the world except Marvel Strike Force. Then they discuss perhaps the strangest installment of the four brothers from New York with TNMT: Out of the Shadows. Next, Bobby brings fun level back down to earth with a documentary about a national tragedy. But seriously, Tower turns out to be a beautiful, even inspirational film about human bravery. And finally, the guys decide to cash in on the craze and try their hand at the Disney/Pixar Bracket- the differences in their choices...will ASTOUND you. Pop Culture Discussed: Pretty much every Disney and Pixar movie, Jesus Christ Superstar, Stephen King, Not Marvel Strike Force For next time: Adult Swim's short "Too Many Cooks" and Kyle Mooney's "Brigsby Bear"

The guys won't stop talking about video games. After a lengthy Skyrim chat, there's some talk about Annihilation and nostalgia. Then it's off to YouTube, where Bobby's pick is a video essay by Lindsay Ellis about Megan Fox in the Transformers movies. The guys are shocked to learn that Megan Fox's character is very clearly named after Michael Bay, and are also shocked by what they have retained from the film a decade later. Watch the video here: https://youtu.be/tKyrUMUervU Finally, Ian made Bobby read a book, but it's a pretty good book! M.T. Anderson's Feed is an incredibly prescient book about consumerism and corporations. Ian thinks that synthetic flesh farms are the stuff of nightmares, but Bobby's pretty okay with it. Pop culture discussed: Skyrim, A Wrinkle in Time, Annihilation, Game Night, Better Call Saul, Everything Sucks!, and Ready Player One

The guys record their milestone 10th episode! First, Ian gushes over Better Call Saul, the show basically responsible for the podcast starting, and marvels over then insane talent of Bob Odenkirk. Then Bobby depresses Ian with the fractured look at a disintegrating relationship that is The Last Five Years. Finally, the guys engage in their weirdest argument of all time: what's a better TV show, The Wire or Parks and Recreation? Pop Culture Discussed: Breath of the Wild (again), The Last Five Years, Better Caul Saul, The Wire, Parks and Recreation, Mario/Rabbids: Kingdom Battle, Game Night, Annihilation, Resident Evil 7, Rick and Morty.

The guys still don't know how to open an episode. Bobby patiently waits to open his new Playstation VR. Ian is still watching Face Off and Bobby has watched Ingrid Goes West. Bobby introduces Ian to Our Debut Album, a podcast in which two comedians with no songwriting experience try to create a hit album. The guys muse on the simple pleasures of listening to people create music. Ian's choice is the FX show Legion. It's weird and artsy, but it's based on comic books, so it's still like totally on brand or whatever. Also, the guys both agree that Aubrey Plaza is a boss. Finally, a lengthy spoiler-filled geek-out sesh about how awesome Black Panther was. (Spoilers: it's very awesome) Popular Culture Discussed: Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle, Face Off, Ingrid Goes West, Our Debut Album, Legion, Black Panther Next Week: Better Call Saul and The Last Five Years