Beyond the Scope

Send us a textDr. Doc de Baca is a hematopathologist and current CAP Chair of the Council on Informatics and Pathology Innovation. In this episode of Beyond the Scope, Dr. de Baca shares her unique journey through various medical specialties and her current role in pathology informatics. The conversation explores the importance of digital pathology, the challenges of innovation and regulation, and the role of CIPI in shaping the future of pathology. Dr. de Baca emphasizes the need for pathologists to embrace technology and adapt to the evolving landscape of healthcare, while also addressing the importance of effective communication and understanding in pathology reports.A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

Send us a textDr. Sang Wu is a pathologist at Baylor, Scott & White (Irving, TX) and currently serves as Speaker of the House of Delegates for the College of American Pathologists. The episode focuses on the governance structure of the CAP and the responsibilities carried by each delegate. Dr. Wu previews the upcoming leadership summit in Washington DC April 27, 2025. Finally, Alae joins Giovanni and Dr. Wu for a discussion covering pathologists' perspectives on the future of DP/AI. A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

Anil Parwani is a past DPA President and trailblazer for digital pathology. He currently serves as Chair of the Department of Pathology and the Chief of Pathology Services for The Ohio State University Medical Center. Alae Kawam interviews Dr. Parwani at PV24, live from Orlando, FL, covering recruitment for the future of pathology, advice on handling burnout, and advice for new digital pathology adopters.A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

Live from Pathology Visions 2024 in Orlando, FL, the Beyond the Scope team interviews past Presidents of the DPA who were in attendance. Guests include:Eric Glassy (2017)Marilyn Bui (2019)Michael Rivers (2020)Anil Parwani (2021)Ester Abels (2022)Liron Pantanowitz (2023)Junya Fukuoka (Current - 2025)Each President answers questions about the current state of Digital Pathology, what DP/AI looks like in 10 years, how DP/AI can impact healthcare, and how to implement in the community setting. Stay tuned at the end to find out which Presidents are cat or dog lovers and their ice cream preference! It is recommended to watch the video version of this episode on the DPA websiteA forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

Live from PV24 in Orlando, FL, Alae Kawam interviews Dr. Aleks Zuraw. Aleks is a veterinary pathologist and founder of Digital Pathology Place, a website and podcast dedicated to all of the hot topics in digital pathology. Topics of discussion include reflections on PV24, practical applications of digital pathology, and the correlation between radiology and pathology transformation to digital. This episode is produced by David Remedios.A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

Live from Pathology Visions 2024 in Orlando, FL, Alae Kawam interviews Dr. Bilal Ahmad. Dr. Ahmad is a Pathologist at Spectrum Healthcare Partners in Maine. He joins Beyond The Scope to discuss challenges of running a physician owned practice and how digital pathology helps with workflow and employee retention. This episode is produced by Quincy Gu.A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

We kick off season 5 of Beyond the Scope with a special series of episodes featuring interviews from Pathology Visions 2024, live from Orlando. FL. Giovanni interviews Dr. Don Karcher, a hematopathologist at George Washington University. Dr. Karcher is the CAP President and gives his perspective on integration of digital pathology and artificial intelligence, governance, and the future of pathology.A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

Michael Quick is a cytologost currently serving as the VP of R&D and Innovation for Cytology and Oncology at Hologic and the 2024 DPA President. Mike shares his background as a cytologist and how it led to a career focused on innovation in the digital pathology industry. Hologic has grown into the digital pathology and laboratory industry, and we discuss motivations for expansion of a large company into new areas of medicine. Finally, we feature an interview from Pathology Visions 2024 where Mike reflects on the conference and accomplishments as DPA President.A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

Andy Beck MD PhD is the CEO of PathAI. He joins Beyond The Scope to discuss his background as a pathologist and biomedical informaticist while sharing his journey through the rapidly changing digital pathology landscape. Key topics include motivations for starting a company, real-world feedback from DP/AI users, and challenges for developing AI-powered technology. Finally, Dr. Beck shares the story behind PathAI partnering with Quest and Roche diagnostics.A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

Dr. Chris Garcia is a pathologist and serves as the Medical Director in the division of computational pathology and artificial intelligence at the Mayo Clinic. He joins the show for a broad reaching conversation about the current state of digital pathology and what the future holds for the industry. Dr. Garcia shares his journey from academia and industry and how his experience led to a career focused on pathology informatics. We touch on the challenges for a large organization like Mayo to recruit individuals with diverse skill sets seeking to advance the industry. Additional topics include projects related to pathology data and LLM development and a discussion on how to engage new users with novel pathology technology.A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

Catarina Eloy MD, PhD is a pathologist and Director of The Institute of Molecular Pathology and Immunology of the University of Porto (IPATIMUP). She joins BTS to discuss the transformation of IPATIMUP to a fully integrated digital pathology laboratory and how new technology is improving diagnostic efficiency and patient treatment outcomes in Portugal. Additional topics include AI initiatives for pathology and advice on how to get started going digital.A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

Staci Kearney PhD is the founder and CEO of Elevation Strategic Consulting, a firm that provides regulatory assistance to digital pathology companies. In May 2024, The FDA ruled that Laboratory Developed Tests (LDTs) will be regulated as medical devices with FDA oversight in the coming years. Staci joins for a special episode to break down the timeline for vendors to be compliant with the new rule and implications for digital pathology companies and laboratories.Laboratory Developed Tests-Frequently Asked Questions-FDAA forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

Dr. Muhammad Aslam is a consultant pathologist and Clinical Director for North Wales Diagnostic and Specialist Clinical Services. He joins Beyond the Scope to discuss the success of pathology digitization in his region of Wales and the current state of affairs of digital pathology adoption in the UK as a whole. The primary discussion revolves around all of the advantages digital pathology technologies are actively providing to pathologists and other specialties in Wales. Finally, Dr. Aslam discusses his initiatives to use artificial intelligence as an aid to diagnosis of prostate, breast, and lung disease. The validation study of the program in Wales can be found here: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34012708/A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

Sylvia Asa is an endocrine pathologist leading University Hospitals in Cleveland, OH into the era of digital pathology. Previously, Dr. Asa was the Head of Pathology at Canada's largest hospital network, where she successfully built a digital pathology workflow. Dr. Asa joins Beyond The Scope to reflect on 20 years of working with digital pathology. Key discussion points include interoperability, surprising technologies, and the patient-pathologist relationship.A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

David West is a computational biologist, entrepreneur, and co-founder of Proscia. Proscia is a company advancing data-driven pathology with its Concentriq platform and computational solutions. David joins this episode live from Orlando to discuss how the digital pathology market has changed in the last 5 years. Next, he shares insight on scaling up and hiring in digital pathology. Finally, David speculates what the next wave of innovations will bring to pathology.A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

Dr. Ehsan Ullah is a pathologist and operations manager of anatomic pathology laboratories for Health New Zealand. He joins Beyond The Scope to discuss the pathology landscape in New Zealand and how digital technologies and artificial intelligence modules can improve efficiencies of the public health system. Additionally, he shares his work developing large language learning models as an aid to existing diagnostic tools.A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

John Groth is a pathologist at NorthShore University HealthSystem in greater Chicago, IL. He joins the show to discuss in great detail his recent experience leading NorthShore going digital. All elements of the transition are covered, including value propositions to patients and administrators, team building, vendor selection, training, and implementation.A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

Liron Pantanowitz is the 2023 President of the DPA and Chair of Pathology at UPMC. This episode is a preview of the DPA Pathology Visions Conference which will be held in Orlando October 29-31. Registration, agenda, and more information can be found here.A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

Dr. Emily Volk is a pathologist at the University of Louisville and has served as the President of The College of American Pathologists from 2021-2023. She joins the show to discuss balancing her journey as a pathologist, administrator, and CAP governor with family life. This episode features a behind the scenes look at some of the political issues facing CAP including Dobbs vs. Jackson and the VALID act. Finally, Emily shares her views on the future of pathology.A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

Dr. Raj Singh is the Director of Dermatopathology and the Director of Digital Pathology at Summit Health. He joins BTS for an episode themed around sharing digital pathology images. As one of the founders of Path Presenter, he discusses building a viewing platform for educational, clinical, and research purposes. This episode includes a tutorial on the Digital Anatomic Pathology Academy (DAPA), a free educational tool hosted on the DPA website for members and trainees. Finally, the challenges surrounding connectivity of digital slide scanners, viewing platforms, and electronic medical records are analyzed.A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

Mike Isaacs is the Director of Clinical informatics and Business Development at Washington University in the Department of Pathology and Immunology. He has a computer science background and over 25 years of experience in supporting Information Technology in the laboratory. Mike joins the show to discuss focusing the last 10 plus years in digital pathology, specifically developing multiple digital workflows to take advantage of technology in the laboratory. This episode contains vibrant discussions around the business case, applications, and workflow optimization.A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

Dr. Stuart is the CEO of Mikroscan, a company making telemicroscopy systems. He joins the show to discuss the past, present, and future of digital pathology. From the lens of his experience leading companies through the digital transformation in radiology and pathology, he shares insight on challenges facing adoption. This episode includes stories from the early days of digital pathology and the DPA as well as recent initiatives in the industry.A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

Dr. Ehab El-Gabry is the Chief Medical Officer at Akoya Biosciences. He joins the show to discuss spatial biology and multiplexing technology applications for pharmaceutical research and pathology. Additional topics include biotechnology executive career talk and some history behind PDL1 development.A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

Giovanni and David are joined by Aleksandra Zuraw DVM, a fellow podcaster and founder of www.digitalpathologyplace.com, to discuss a few hot topics in digital pathology. Topics covered in this episode include Ai adoption in pathology, ChatGPT corollaries to AI for pathology, automating slide scanning, and a real world update on the use of the new trial digital pathology CPT codes.A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

Harrison Dai, a 3rd year Medical Student from EVMS, joins Beyond The Scope to discuss his interest in pathology residency and journey through medical school. The topics covered include pathology recruitment strategies, The Match updates, recent changes to USMLE step exams, and optimism for digital pathology in residency programs.A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

Dr. Christoph Guetter is a computer scientist and a Director of Algorithm Development at Roche Diagnostics. He joins the show to introduce some of the fundamentals of machine learning algorithm development from an industry perspective. Topics include choosing a project, defining high quality data input, and milestones for completed algorithms.A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

Lisa-Jean Clifford is the COO and Chief Strategy Officer at Gestalt Diagnostics. She joins the show to discuss the challenges and successes of marketing new products in the digital pathology space. From previous executive experience in the LIS space, she presents some of the parallels between pathology and radiology's digital transformation. Finally, LJ reflects on her recent appointment as Secretary for the governing council of the API.A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

Dr. Lakshman Ramamurthy is the Head of Precision Medicine & Digital Health Global Regulatory at GSK. He joins Beyond the Scope to discuss his journey through academia, regulatory and reimbursement affairs, consulting, and industry. As someone who works with emerging diagnostics in big pharma, Dr. Ramamurthy shares his thoughts on digital pathology and artificial intelligence as a tool for clinical trials and discusses the need for more guidance on Good Machine Learning Practices.A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org. DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The Scope community. All listeners are encouraged to use this forum to suggest future topics and guests, submit questions and corrections, and provide general feedback.

Dr. Zaibo Li is a pathologist at The Ohio State University Wexner Medical Center, where he also serves as the Associate Director of Digital Pathology. Dr. Li has taken the leap to become a true digital pathologist and joins the show to discuss his journey to fully embrace digital pathology, sharing valuable advice to others also considering the leap. Dr. Li highlights practical benefits of digital pathology, featuring international consultations, resident training, ergonomic improvements, and workload efficiency. Finally, Dr. Li highlights his research developing novel AI for predicting response to breast cancer treatment.

Savitri Krishnamturthy is a Professor of Pathology at MD Anderson, specializing in breast pathology and cytopathology. Dr. Krishnamurthy joines Beyond the Scope live from Las Vegas to discuss her work in emerging microscopy technologies for real-time pathology evaluations. As a member of the CAP In Vivo Microscopy Committee, she speaks on the initiatives to get new billing codes for new microscopy technologies. Additionally, Dr. Krishnamurthy shares her thoughts on training the next generation of pathologists to go digital.

Dr. Jon Myles (Cleveland Clinic Pathologist, CAP Governor, and Chair of the Council on Government and Professional Affairs) joins BTS to explain the essentials regarding CPT codes. With the recent proposal for new CPT codes covering services using digital pathology technology, Dr. Myles provides an update on the current efforts and timeline for when the new codes may be officially adopted by CMS. This episode is moderated by Giovanni and Dr. Joe Sirintrapun (MSKCC), featuring industry input from Michael Rivers (Roche).

Dr. Staci Kearney is a regulatory consultant and Founder of Elevation Strategic Development. She joins the show to discuss her unique path to the regulatory field as someone with a scientific background. In the last 5 years, the DP/AI industry has experienced the milestones of the first whole slide imaging system approved for primary diagnosis and the first AI algorithm approved as an aid to diagnosis. Dr. Kearney discusses the role of regulatory professionals in the industry and outlines the areas where vendors typically seek assistance from consultants. Finally, with the legislation surrounding In Vitro Diagnostics and DP/AI rapidly changing, Dr. Kearney breaks down the most impactful regulatory updates.

Dana Razzano is a GI, liver, and cytopathologist at Stanford and also a faculty fellow at the Stanford Center for Innovation in Global Health. She has dedicated her work in pathology to improving access to laboratory medicine services in low and middle income countries. Dr. Razzanno joins Beyond The Scope to discuss her model for training pathologists around the globe, including a newly launched training program in Ethiopia. Furthermore, she discusses how digital pathology can help increase the pathology workforce and improve patient access to pathology services globally. For more information on Dr. Razzano's work and how to get involved, please visit: https://pathinfo.fandom.com/wiki/Global_Health_Opportunities_for_Pathologists. Dr. Razzano also delivers a newsletter to laboratory medicine professionals in low and middle income countries featuring grant, workshop, and training opportunities. Sign up for the newsletter here: https://lp.constantcontactpages.com/su/lhFaaUN/GlobalPathology.

This special episode of Beyond The Scope features a panel discussion with the 3 current Presidents of Digital Pathology societies on 3 different continents. Junya Fukuoka MD, PhD is a lung pathologist and President of the Japanese Society of Digital Pathology. Norman Zerbe is a computer scientist and President of the European Society of Digital and Integrative Pathology. Esther Abels is a clinical and regulatory expert and President of the Digital Pathology Association in North America. Topics included in the panel discussion are: 1) The state of DP/AI adoption on each continent, 2) Ethical and regulatory considerations surrounding new pathology technology, 3) Standards for emerging technologies, and 4) Advice to pathologists and vendors looking to move the industry forward.

Giovanni and David are joined by Aleksandra Zuraw DVM, a fellow podcaster and founder of www.digitalpathologyplace.com. Dr. Zuraw is a veterinary pathologist working for Charles River Labs CRO on pre-clinical drug discovery studies. Digital Pathology Place is a website featuring a podcast, blog, webinars, and news items related to digital pathology. This episode is the first installment featuring the digital pathology podcasters getting together to discuss hot topics. The result is a general discussion on digital pathology adoption and reactions to the recently published guidelines for validating clinical and pre-clinical digital pathology applications.

Dr. Lewis Hassell is a pathologist and Director of Anatomic Pathology at The University of Oklahoma Health Sciences Center. He joins Beyond the Scope to introduce the Open Pathology Education Network (OPEN) and discuss the challenges currently facing the global pathology workforce. OPEN is a platform that aims to provide remote and digital education to pathologists in underserved areas of the world; they recently launched the first pilot programs in Vietnam. Dr. Hassell also shares his insights on how learnings from the COVID 19 pandemic are transforming the way we educate the next generation of pathologists. To become involved or learn more about OPEN, please email Dr. Hassell directly: lewis-hassell@ouhsc.edu

David West is a computational biologist, entrepreneur, and co-founder of Proscia. Proscia is a company advancing data-driven pathology with its Concentriq platform and computational solutions. He joins BTS to share his journey with Proscia from University spin-off to their recently closed series C funding round. In the second half of the episode, David discusses the challenges and opportunities of working with big data in pathology. Lastly, David shares his insight into how pathologists should go about selecting software tools to meet their needs.

Dr. Chhavi Chauhan (CC) is the Director of Scientific Outreach and Continuing Medical Education for the American Society of Investigative Pathology. CC is also a key member of the DPA educational and membership initiatives. She joins Beyond the Scope to discuss the ethical considerations for new applications of artificial intelligence in medicine, and the specific role pathologists will play in forming new standards. CC is a passionate advocate for diversity, equity, and inclusion in medicine, and importantly shares her vision, including how we can use large datasets, for a more globally connected and inclusive healthcare system.

As one of the earliest adopters of digital pathology, Eric Glassy has been at the forefront of most of the major DP/AI innovations in the past 25 years. Eric joins Beyond The Scope to guide us through his career long journey with digital pathology. Serving on numerous boards and committees for organizations like the DPA, CAP, and API, Eric also discusses all of the work related to the CMS waiver for remote sign out (including where we currently stand today). Eric is the Medical Director of Affiliated Pathology Medical Group, a community pathology practice primarily serving Southern California. Therefore, he appropriately presents the benefits and perils of using DP/AI in the community setting.

Dr. Joe Sirintrapun is a surgical pathologist and genitourinary tumor expert, currently serving as the Director of Pathology Informatics at MSKCC. Joe joins Beyond the Scope to discuss his journey to the current role at MSKCC, revealing the value of overcoming setbacks and defining some of the qualities needed to be a leader in the field of Informatics. Previously the President of The Association for Pathology Informatics (API), Joe talks about all of the work that was involved in the CLIA relaxation of regulation for remote sign-out and gives a status update about how long this may last. The 2022 API Summit is being held May 9-12 in Pittsburgh, PA. Please click here for more information.

Dr. Jason Hipp is the Chair of the Division of Computational Pathology and Artificial Intelligence at the Mayo Clinic and the Director of Digital Innovation for Mayo Reference Labs. Jason joins Beyond the Scope to discuss his career path, which includes work in academia, the NCI, big pharma, and big tech. His journey through an evolving digital pathology industry is paving the way for pathologists to occupy non-traditional roles, such as informatics director or clinical trials pathologist. Additionally, the conversation touches on some of the current hot topics in computational pathology and artificial intelligence.

Season 2 of Beyond the Scope kicks off with a conversation with Jon Ho, dermatopathologist and founder of Kiko, a social media platform made to connect physicians. Dr. Ho discusses his passion for education and ways his department at UPMC are using digital pathology and artificial intelligence for both research and education. 

David Klimstra is the Chief Medical Officer at Paige and was previously the Chair of Pathology at Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center. Paige is a medical company offering the first FDA cleared artificial intelligence platform to assist with the diagnosis of prostate cancer. Dr. Klimstra joins the show to discuss building a robust digital pathology program at MSKCC and the transition from academia to industry. Furthermore, he offers insights into what the first FDA clearance for an AI product means to the industry and the overall breadth of AI applications in pathology.

Sylvia Asa is an endocrine pathologist leading University Hospitals in Cleveland, OH into the era of digital pathology. Previously, Dr. Asa was the Head of Pathology at Canada's largest hospital network, where she successfully built a digital pathology workflow. She joins Beyond The Scope to discuss the moment of realizing the power of digitizing a slide to achieving a fully integrated digital pathology workflow in Canada's largest medical network. As a Chair of the upcoming DPA Visions Conference (October 17-19 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas), she previews the program and highlights some of the upcoming talks. Finally, Dr. Asa gives her thoughts on what the field of pathology may look like in 10-20 years.

Beyond the Scope returns as David and Giovanni discuss a publication from Archives of Pathology and Laboratory Medicine: "Digital Pathology Initiatives and Experience of a Large Academic Institution During the Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) Pandemic". Topics include process to establish a 100% digital workflow, the remote validation process, and how the workflow was also useful for research and education. (24:49) Then, Harrison Dai (MS2, Eastern Virginia University) joins the show in a new segment sharing his experience as a medical student during the pandemic, in addition to the medical student perspective on digital pathology.Reference paper:https://meridian.allenpress.com/aplm/article/145/9/1051/464723/Digital-Pathology-Initiatives-and-Experience-of-aDPA links:https://digitalpathologyassociation.org/https://dpa-dapa.com/login

Raj and Matt join Beyond the Scope to discuss the the Digital Anatomic Pathology Academy, hosted on PathPresenter - a primarily open source cloud based viewing platform for digital slides. DAPA is used as an educational, clinical, and publication tool. DPA members can access DAPA for free to make use of the numerous educational modules (dpa-dapa.com).NOTE: this episode utilizes video for platform tutorials. Please visit https://digitalpathologyassociation.org/dpa-podcast-beyond-the-scope for the video version.2:48 Guest intro7:21 Introduction to the cloud based viewing and educational platform8:47 Tutorial for navigating the platform17:20 DAPA educational module features and demonstration20:45 DAPA use cases; including an interactive way to study for boards26:00 How DPA members and other can access the platform27:50 Open source platform vs. licensed version for private data30:10 MSKCC experience using the platform as an education portal and conference tool33:00 Long term clinical goals of the platform37:55 Utilizing the platform in underserved areas39:23 Utilizing the platform for publications and E-books

Marilyn M. Bui, MD, PhD, FCAP is a senior member in the Department of Pathology at Moffitt Cancer Center where she serves as the scientific director of the Analytic Microscopy Core. She has previously served as president of the DPA and currently chairs many committees for CAP and DPA. Dr. Bui joins Beyond the Scope to discuss her work toward digital pathology adoption and building a connected network of pathologists.1:58 Introduction and what it means to be a pathologist in the digital age6:03 Evolution of pathology toward the digital era10:18 How experience as a molecular biology researcher led to a career focused on DP/AI14:25 Building relationships through the DPA and how to get involved18:24 Highlights throughout the years of DPA leadership22:34 Global digital pathology collaborations24:23 DAPA - a cloud based platform for DP education31:05 Using social media to promote DP adoption and education32:47 Digital health initiatives at Moffitt Cancer Center36:33 Current research projects in DP/AI41:55 The future of pathology - how to improve the workforce,promote a healthy lifestyle, and decrease the workload

Chen Sagiv is an entrepreneur and computer scientist. She joins Beyond the Scope to discuss her story as a co-founder of DeePathology, a start-up providing AI tools for pathologists, as well as the challenges and excitement surrounding innovation in the digital pathology industry.3:01 Introduction7:29 Early applications of computer science in healthcare and why deep learning/AI methods are mandatory knowledge for modern computer scientists11:15 The importance of cross disciplinary work between engineers, pathologists, and computer scientists18:15 Story behind DeePathology and how the start-up helps pathologists use and understand AI tools25:47 The perceived "black box" of AI vs. DIY AI platforms31:50 Building AI algorithms from scratch37:19 Advice for innovators in the pathology space

Dr. David Clunie is a radiologist, medical informaticist, DICOM open source software author and editor of the DICOM standard. He joins Beyond The Scope to discuss image format standards surrounding digital pathology adoption. For more information, please visit: https://www.dclunie.com/ .3:00 Intro4:15 Background on PACS and DICOM, and the importance to pathology6:39 History of DICOM as the image standard for radiology10:04 Why an image standard has yet to emerge for pathology15:38 How pathology departments can work with IT departments to aid the digital transition16:54 Clarifying misconceptions about PACS21:52 Discussing all cost elements associated with digital pathology transition27:43 Advice to pathologists regarding image archival standards long term33:20 Collaborative efforts between pathology, radiology, and IT departments37:22 Educating the pathology community on image standards and regulatory barriers44:51 The role of enterprise IT in DP adoption

Raisa Glabman is a veterinary pathologist and a fellow in the NIH/NCI Comparative Biomedical Scientist Training Program (CBSTP). Raisa joins Beyond the Scope to discuss her research on immunotherapy and the tumor microenvironment, how researchers in her field are using DP/AI, and the current state of DP adoption in veterinary medicine.2:28 Introduction4:37 NCI CBSTP program9:00 Why veterinary pathology is interested in DP/AI for clinical and research applications12:45 What human and veterinary pathologists can learn from each other regarding DP adoption16:30 DP applications in various veterinary pathology settings - industrial labs, academic centers, and small clinics20:25 Raisa's research on immunotherapy and the tumor microenvironment25:53 How Raisa is using DP/AI for her research28:10 Doing research during the pandemic29:43 Being an early adopter of DP/AI tools for this specific type of research34:50 How DP will help researchers ask new scientific questions

George Green, Head of Pharmacodiagnostics at Bristol Meyers Squibb, joins Beyond the Scope to discuss the pharmaceutical industry's perspective on digital pathology and artificial intelligence. The conversation revolves around how digital pathology will see increased applications in the current era of precision medicine.1:22 Introduction 4:15 The companion diagnostics revolution in pharma9:54 Early applications of digital pathology in pharma14:38 How the mindset of pathologists has evolved since the dawn of DP/AI19:55 Pharma perspective on how DP/AI will drive the future of precision medicine25:00 Increasing DP adoption in the pharma industry28:40 Digital pathology bringing better patient care around the world