Dragon Babies

We're returning to D.J. MacHale's Pendragon series with The Never War! This ridiculous (complimentary) alternate reality historical fiction sees Bobby heading to New York City, 1937. He's supposed to stop the Hindenburg from exploding and save the passengers aboard - OR IS HE??? We meet the wonderful Gunny, watch Spader go full Inigo Montoya and wonder how the heck Courtney and Mark are doing. Enjoy butterfly effect fury, concerns about parallel worlds sharing the same timeline, why Bobby can't just go kill Hitler and whether he's trapped in a cycle of grief avoidance. Ya know, regular middle grade SFF stuff!*Note - in spite of a promise to talk at length about season 2 of The Rehearsal, my favorite piece of media from 2025 so far, we had so much to say that there wasn't a chance to get to it. If you would like to discuss the intersection between The Rehearsal and The Never War, I beg you - get in touch.EPISODE MEDIAOther Pendragon episodes:The Merchant of DeathThe Lost City of FaarAdventure Time Islands miniseries episode - Imaginary ResourcesMUSIC - Pippin the Hunchback and Thatched Villagers by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) - Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

We're heading back to Pern with Dragonsinger by Anne McCaffrey! Menolly has made it out of her cave, away from her abusive family, and into appreciation and education at Harper Hall. Occasional bullies and demanding teachers can't get our girl down - she's got her gitar, she's flocked by fire lizards and she's shredding the other musicians' faces off. We discuss therapeutic coming of age stories, the threat of a one-on-one with a professor who's not on your side, and real-world fire lizard analogs. Join us!EPISODE MEDIAOur Dragonsong episode (120 episodes ago!!)MUSIC - Pippin the Hunchback and Thatched Villagers by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) - Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

We covered the first book of Sabaa Tahir's buzzy Ember Quartet, and we have thoughts! Laia is from the Scholar class, an enslaved group struggling to exist under the heavy heel of the Martials. Elias has been raised to be a soulless Martial warrior, a Mask, but he longs to escape. Their lives become intertwined as they explore the Resistance, attempt to keep their humanity intact, and interfere with the Empire's transition of power. We explore our problems with the character development and caste system, discuss how the author used real world conflicts as inspiration, and wonder how every character can be so horny at every turn when their lives are on the line. Plus a bizarre amount of Goblet of Fire energy?? Join us!*Significant content warning for rape. This episode has more discussion of sexual content than is typical for our podcast, and in general is probably not ideal for younger listeners.MUSIC - Pippin the Hunchback and Thatched Villagers by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) - Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

In which DRAGON BABIES COVERS A BOOK ABOUT DRAGON BABIES. This gorgeous opening to the Dragon Chronicles sees Kaeldra nurturing and protecting draclings through endless peril and predatory dudes. We discuss domesticity in fantasy, our changing feelings about married ‘n' pregnant endings, and the cruel loss that takes place in the third act and has us really feeling our own grief. Join us!EPISODE MEDIAOther episodes mentioned -Song of the Wanderer by Bruce CovilleOur Earthsea epsDragon's Blood, by Jane YolenThe Moorchild, by Eloise McGrawMUSIC - Pippin the Hunchback and Thatched Villagers by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) - Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

In which we take to the sea, learn more about 19-century whaling than we wanted to know and scream DIDO TWITE from the rooftops! The third book in Joan Aiken's Wolves Chronicles makes Dido the deserving protagonist as she frees other little girls from emotional and societal expectations. We wrestle with vague memories of Nantucket as we discuss the delightfully subtle fantasy elements and the appeal of a Very Pink Whale. Join us!Other Joan Aiken episodes:The Wolves of Willoughby ChaseBlack Hearts in Battersea

We're returning to Luster with book 2 of Bruce Coville's Unicorn Chronicles! Cara gets into complex lineage tangles, prismatic prisons, and more sparkly magical talismans than our 12-year-old hearts could handle. We discuss how this series inspired Madeleine's early writing, the lure of the hearth versus the mystery of the unknown, and why the Squijum makes these audiobooks a real challenge. Give your new griffin friend a respectful kiss on the beak and join us!- Our episode on Into the Land of the UnicornsMUSIC - Pippin the Hunchback and Thatched Villagers by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) - Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

Tracy Lynn's take on Snow White is frightening, enchanting and endlessly rereadable. Jessica escapes her cruel stepmother's alchemy-fueled attempts on her life and finds respite with human-animal outcasts in the alleys of London. But when her stepmother reappears and promises she's changed, tragedy strikes. We discuss whether the stepmother is really just a well-meaning woman in STEM, yearn for our own alley hideouts complete with found families and play the fiddle to break a curse.EPISODE MEDIAOur other Once Upon a Time series episode - The Storyteller's Daughter, by Cameron DokeyMUSIC - Pippin the Hunchback and Thatched Villagers by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) - Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

It's time for Kamet and Costis' Excellent Adventure! Thick as Thieves sets us up for the conclusion of the exceptional Queen's Thief series while delivering plenty of hijinks, angst, machinations and roast caggi along the way. Kamet and Costis learn about themselves and each other as they evade slavers, the emperors guard, malicious strangers and plague in their efforts to make it out of the Mede empire. Gods are meddling, Gen is meddling right back, and we're loving every word.As always, the biggest of thanks to the many listeners who introduced us to this life-changing series! MWT girlies for life.Our other Queen's Thief episodes:The ThiefThe Queen of AttoliaThe King of Attolia A Conspiracy of KingsMUSIC - Pippin the Hunchback and Thatched Villagers by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) - Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

Hobey ho! We're continuing D.J. MacHale's Pendragon series with The Lost City of Faar. We travel with the steadfast Bobby to water world Cloral, where we learn about water-powered tech, gain a friend and ultimately lose a crucial ally. Grace and Madeleine discuss the wild tonal shifts, 90's kid energy and action-packed pacing that make this series so appealing to young readers and so much fun to revisit as adults (disgusting bully Andy Mitchell notwithstanding). Grab some sniggers at Grolo's and join us!EPISODE MEDIAMerchant of Death episode (Book 1)MUSIC - Pippin the Hunchback and Thatched Villagers by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) - Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

We're celebrating Halloween with a return to the icons that started it all: Celtic witch effigies! Greenwitch continues the exquisite Dark is Rising Sequence by throwing us for a weird, wonderful loop - forget the big stakes Light vs. Dark battle, let's narrow in on a wayward angry painter and a spring holiday in Trewissick. The Drew children and Will Stanton meet, solve a dognapping, and get into mind-altering yet somehow still relatively low-key exploits, all while Cooper's gorgeous prose draws us further into this ancient seaside mystery. We're throwing an all-night crafting party - join us!*Note - some listeners have expressed frustration with a few of our especially meandering book summaries and if you are one of them, this episode is probably not for you! This book is dreamlike and so are we!!

Franny Billingsley's debut novel Well Wished is alternately eerie and joyful, filled with natural wonder and existential dread. The residents of Bishop Mayne live under their cruel wishing well's thrall… but why?? We discuss the realistic childhood friendship at the center of the book, shifting from friend to foe as they swap bodies (and one refuses to return). We're meeting up with Nuria and Catty in Lace Dappled Grove, join us!Other episodes mentioned:The Folk Keeper by Franny BillingsleyMy Enduring Obsession with The Snow Queen (Grace's Reading Corner)Shelley Duvall's Faerie Tale Theatre

Down with Pirate King Gabool, up with prophetic bells! We're covering Mariel of Redwall, by Brian Jacques. Although this is our third episode on a Redwall book, we still have a significant amount of puzzling to do over the relative size of things, the meaning of different creatures' dialects, badger supremacy and the greensap milk of it all. Enter badger Bloodwrath mode and join us!MUSIC - Pippin the Hunchback and Thatched Villagers by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) - Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

We're continuing Bree's fraught journey through the Legendborn world with Bloodmarked! Tracy Deonn's followup to Legendborn takes Bree far from UNC and the Arthurian Order and into her ancestors' other magical communities. There are so many hot magical boys and SO MUCH PLOT and by the end we need an aether shot at The Crossroads. We debate cambion morality, where we'd make edits and the dramatic change in narrative scope and setting from the first book. #justiceforselwynEPISODE MEDIACover artist Hillary D. Wilson's other gorgeous workOther episodes mentioned:Tamsin, by Peter S. BeagleThe Ragwitch, by Garth NixSpinning Silver, by Naomi NovikMUSIC - Pippin the Hunchback and Thatched Villagers by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) - Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

We're spending the summer at Gone-Away Lake! Elizabeth Enright's classic story of creating your own adventure is rich with wish-fulfillment fantasy. Enright brings cousins Portia, Julian and Foster to life as they tromp through swampland, evade the Gulper and befriend Min and Pin, kindly siblings living out of time. We discuss the decline of American aristocracy, summer's sweet melancholy, and the complex memories Gone-Away evokes. Casual children's adventure story stuff!MUSIC - Pippin the Hunchback and Thatched Villagers by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) - Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

We're continuing Diana Wynne Jones' beloved Chestomanci with The Lives of Christopher Chant! We follow Christopher as he journeys through the Anywheres, chafes under the controlling adults in his life, and dedicates himself to cricket and cricket alone. A romp, a revelation, the best time we've had in quite a while - you owe it to yourself to revisit Throgmorten's charms. This episode has laughs and tears AND some very triggering salmon sandwiches. We'll leave you with a resounding: “WONG!”EPISODE MEDIAOur other Chrestomanci episodes:Charmed LifeWitch WeekWe somehow haven't covered The Magicians of Caprona although I swore we had??? Guess we gotta! Also I'm losing my mind!Plus our million other DWJ episodes, which we will continue producing indefinitely in our quest to become the Preeminent Diana Wynne Jones Podcast™️MUSIC - Pippin the Hunchback and Thatched Villagers by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) - Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

We're returning to Valdemar with Magic's Promise, by Mercedes Lackey! In his second book, Vanyel is 12 years older but perhaps not wiser as he struggles to move past his lover Tylendel's tragic death. While attempting to find some rest at his family's home (and mostly just finding homophobia), Vanyel and his companion Yfandes are pulled into a mysterious royal murder in a neighboring kingdom. He is tasked with uncovering the truth from the terrified Tashir, one of the only survivors and the suspected (but unlikely) culprit. Vanyel mopes, gets very tired and hungry, and ultimately grows - and we cheer him on every step of the way.EPISODE MEDIACover artist Jody Lee - After a more thorough look at her body of work, I have realized that she in fact created THE MANY WATERS COVER we've been obsessed with since childhood as well as so many other absolute bangers. “This artist changed my life” - Madeleine HarnoisThe Oathbreakers album - here's a taste with Shadow Stalker. There's also a separate musical interpretation of her work by Paul Espinoza, which I mention in the ep - and probably even more out there! Send us your bardic interpretations!!MUSIC - Pippin the Hunchback and Thatched Villagers by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) - Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

We're completing the Old Kingdom trilogy and becoming Abhorsens in our own right. We discuss Lirael's interiority, forgive Sam for his book 2 failings, start a cult dedicated to Mogget worship, and consider how this series helped inspire the current YA fantasy horror boom. We went to the ninth gate and returned, what did you do this weekend? And remember: nothing says fell necromancy like a lightning farm.EPISODE MEDIAOur other Old Kingdom and Garth Nix episodes:Sabriel (very first episode of the podcast, listen at your own risk)Sabriel (Redux)LiraelThe RagwitchMister MondaySabriel concept art by Josh WongMUSIC - Pippin the Hunchback and Thatched Villagers by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) - Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

Sir Simon has us in his thrall! The Castle in the Attic remains a pure delight, bringing out the child searching for a magical miniature castle in us both. We discuss Sir Simon's bizarre (yet winning) quirks, the joys of soft boy William, and the key ways that fictional parents disrupt fantasy narratives. Put a mouse to roast over your tiny fire - it's time to defeat an evil wizard.MUSIC - Pippin the Hunchback and Thatched Villagers by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) - Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

We finally finish a series! Trickster's Queen brings the many threads of political intrigue loose in the Copper Isles to a satisfying (if predictable) conclusion. We discuss the coziness of a perfect fantasy regime change and how overly rosy depictions of righted systemic injustices both help and harm the readers. Perfect spy blobs, spice intolerance, crow-man coming of age, and so, so many reports to write - a little of something for everyone.Be sure to listen to our Trickster's Choice episode before this one, we cover the series' worldbuilding in depth (this ep is more focused on narrative structure and characterization).Thanks to everyone who has requested we finish this duology!

Westmark has it all - political intrigue, long cons, a dashing leader of the revolution, and two months in a garret writing other people's letters. We discuss Lloyd Alexander's fast-paced opening to the Westmark trilogy and why it feels like classic fantasy in spite of its lack of true fantasy elements. Join us in breaking down Theo's soft boy protagonist appeal, the power of an irrepressible urchin, and the bad monarchies of life and literature. Count Las Bombas is offering you an elixir, drink it all up!Thanks to all the listeners who have requested Westmark!MUSIC - Pippin the Hunchback and Thatched Villagers by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) - Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

We're covering the first two books of Emily Rodda's Deltora Quest series, The Forests of Silence and The Lake of Tears! Deltora brings out the best in us; we rave about the impeccable art, wild pacing and grotesque monsters as we travel the kingdom searching for hidden gems. Scholastic book fairs, reading positions we've aged out of, fights about Beyoncé - this episode has it all. Join us!MUSIC - Pippin the Hunchback and Thatched Villagers by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) - Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

Welcome to Middle Grade March! This episode, we're following siblings Nizhoni and Mac Begay as they save their dad from monstrous coal exec Mr. Charles. They discover their similarities to the Hero Twins of Navajo legend and explore their burgeoning abilities through increasingly challenging trials. Grace and Madeleine discuss preferred middle school-age magical weapons, the power of a snarky little brother, and just how many pastas can be combined in a single dish. We also examine the ways this book is controversial, share the opinions of Navajo/Diné scholars and consider ways we can be respectful readers while honoring lines of disclosure. Join us!EPISODE MEDIANOT RECOMMENDED: Rebecca Roanhorse's RACE TO THE SUN by Michael ThompsonThe Sci-Fi Author Reimagining Native History by Lila Shapiro‘The Elizabeth Warren of the Sci Fi Set' - Author faces criticism for repeated use of tribal traditions by Acee AgoyoRebecca Roanhorse on Which Aspects of Diné Culture are Featured in Trail of Lightning by Stubby / Reactor MagMUSIC - Pippin the Hunchback and Thatched Villagers by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) - Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

A special lil episode on the enigmatic Grendel, by John Gardner! After covering The Snow-Walker's Son and considering ancient Nordic literary monsters, Grace was compelled to revisit this darkly comedic retelling of Beowulf from his foe's perspective. Joining her is Ranae Hanson, author, activist, and top-notch mother-in-law. Curl up in your watery cave and join us!

Celebrate Valentine's with this fascinating, bizarre and indelible tale of love among young witches - we're reading The Changeover, by Margaret Mahy! We meet Laura Chant and her young brother Jacko, who are living a mostly-peaceful life in the Christchurch suburbs punctuated by Laura's “warnings,” psychic premonitions that never bode well. When an ancient demon disguised as a terrifying shopkeeper places his mark on Jacko and begins extracting his life force, Laura enlists local teen oddball (and prefect) Sorry Carlisle, who seems to have more than a touch of magic about him. Laura and Sorry discover a path forward that places Laura firmly in her own power and brings them closer together. Children of divorce, teen awkwardness, Enya-esque rituals and more than one romance novel wait inside (all wrapped up in Mahy's exceptional prose) - join us!Thanks to all the listeners who requested this and brought Mahy into our lives!MUSIC - Pippin the Hunchback and Thatched Villagers by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) - Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

We're getting into our frigid sailboat and exploring The Snow-Walker's Son, by Catherine Fisher! Jessa and Thorkil are banished to a forgotten hall in the far North when their fathers attempt to overthrow the current jarl, a pretender to the throne. The false jarl happens to be married to Gudrun, a terrifying ice sorceress who previously sent her own son to the same dark fate. Her son Kari is said to be a twisted monster, but Jessa and Thorkil discover that he's much more complex - and get swept up in a plot to right Gudrun's many wrongs. Grace and Madeleine delve deep into Grendel parallels, the potential alignment of a snake that encircles the world, and continue to love a cold witch. Join us!Note - This is the first book in what is now packaged as a single volume titled Snow-Walker.EPISODE MEDIAGrendel by John GardnerMUSIC - Pippin the Hunchback and Thatched Villagers by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) - Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

We're overwhelmed with holiday spirit and we're releasing this Babetreon episode on the main feed! *Please note that unlike our main feed, this episode is explicit.The sibling squabbling is at an all-time high as Grace tries to force Madeleine to enjoy a Christmas film. Happy Hogswatch!

We're continuing to explore the Lost Years with The Seven Songs of Merlin, by T.A. Barron! Our wee Merlin advances to his Emo Protagonist era as he shirks the main quest in favor of finding/saving his mama. Grace and Madeleine discuss the plot's video game structure, the joys of a melancholy bard (Bumblewy forever), and why we're more sympathetic to Merlin's weight of responsibility as adults. Plus the mysterious wonders of BREAD TOWN + THE GOLDEN STARTER FOUNTAIN. Join us!(Alternate title for current edition - Merlin Book 2: The Seven Songs).Our last episode on the series - The Lost Years of MerlinMusic - Pippin the Hunchback and Thatched Villagers by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) - Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

Strum your cwidder and make the mountains walk

Be an ageless entity, do crimes - we're discussing The Boggart, by Susan Cooper! This wonderfully weird book has it all and is the perfect playful Halloween read for all ages. Cooper pulls off the ultimate middle grade fantasy bait and switch - leading readers to think we're in for a spooky Scottish castle stay and then immediately heading to Toronto (the Boggart accidentally in tow). Grace and Madeleine ponder why this book brings up such specific, forgotten childhood memories and wonder how far they'd go for a handful of peanut butter or hot fudge. Happy Halloween!EPISODE MEDIAIncredible Susan Cooper fansiteMUSIC - Pippin the Hunchback and Thatched Villagers by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) - Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

We're attending A College of Magics, by Caroline Stevermer! An episode almost as long as college itself, we're resplendent with big feelings about this subtle, gorgeously written book. Faris Nallaneen comes into herself and her power through the people and ideas she encounters at Greenlaw College, a magic school where you're not actually allowed to do magic. Set at the turn of the 20th century, the European setting and Victorian turns of phrase build out the book's sweet metaphysical center.EPISODE MEDIAOther episodes mentioned -Sorcery and Cecilia, by Patricia C. Wrede and Caroline StevermerThe Forgotten Beasts of Eld, by Patricia A. McKillipWitch Week, by Diana Wynne JonesMUSIC - Pippin the Hunchback and Thatched Villagers by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) - Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

Brush up on your Cat as we enter the world of Lionboy, by Zizou Corder. Mother and daughter author team (Louisa Young and Isabel Adomakoh Young) craft a Romp in which we travel into a dystopian future. Steampunky advances (and limitations) in technology, a mysterious parental kidnapping, and the ability to talk to cats have led protagonist Charlie Ashanti onto a magnificent circus ship heading from Ghana to Paris. His goal? Set the circus' captive lions free, find his parents, and leave his teen nemesis some threatening voicemails - and he does it all in adorable style. Americans are the worst, cats are the best, and your mother is a banana - join us!MUSIC - Pippin the Hunchback and Thatched Villagers by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) - Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

Oops, we've been swapped out with changelings - time to discuss The Moorchild, by Eloise McGraw! We take to the moor to consider the many virtues of Irish bagpipes and revel in the atmospheric melancholy of Saaski's tale. This deceptively complex book contrasts humanity's darkness alongside the Folk's lively, fleeting nihilism. Where does a girl who fits into neither world belong? We may not find the answer, but we do have a wonderful time in the fae dance (and Grace ate a glamoured orange, dangit). Join us!

It's Merlin time! We head to Fincayra with a ragtag crew including a boy who without a past, a girl raised by trees, a tiny giant who loves honey and a bird you'll want to keep around. The Lost Years of Merlin by T.A. Barron is a soothing, nature-focused journey through a deep wood that adds a new perspective to the many Merlin myths. The experience of rereading and discussing us left us in the best moods, almost as if we'd found some ambrosia bread of our own. Join us!Note - the title for this book is now Merlin Book 1: The Lost Years.MUSIC - Pippin the Hunchback and Thatched Villagers by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) - Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

We're continuing on in Joan Aiken's alternate history, wolf-ridden England with Black Hearts in Battersea! If your spirits need a boost (and whose don't), irresistible Cockney urchin Dido Twite is here to entrance and delight. We absolutely adored this book and wish it had come into our lives sooner. Puzzle over Grace's mental picture of mince pies and join Madeleine's affable league of helpful art students - join us!Thanks to all the listeners who have requested the Wolves Chronicles, we're obsessed with this series!MUSIC - Pippin the Hunchback and Thatched Villagers by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) - Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

We're exploring the Arthurian legend through a southern Black lens with Legendborn, by Tracy Deonn! Join 16-year-old protagonist Bree as she enters an early college program at UNC Chapel Hill and discovers more than one type of magic is waiting. She learns about her dead mother's secrets, her own latent abilities, and the pull of various Hot Boys (both golden and broody). This was our first time experiencing this incredible book and we wholeheartedly recommend it - pick up a copy and join us!EPISODE MEDIAShondaland interview with Tracy DeonnOur Susan Cooper episodes - Over Sea, Under Stone and The Dark is RisingMUSIC - Pippin the Hunchback and Thatched Villagers by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) - Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

We continue Megan Whalen Turner's impeccable Queen's Thief series with A Conspiracy of Kings! We discuss the appeal of sweet Sophos as a protagonist, the portrayal of slavery within fantasy series, and whether the gods are Just Jerks (copyright Madeleine). This is a long one, but in between the sister squabbling, points are made! The main point being that we could talk about MWT's work for the rest of our lives and still have so much to explore.Thanks to all our listeners who requested The Thief in the first place, and supported us in continuing on with the series! We will be finishing it in its entirety (if the sun doesn't burn out first). That's the Dragon Babies promise.MUSIC - Pippin the Hunchback and Thatched Villagers by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) - Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

It's back to Discworld with Wyrd Sisters, by Terry Pratchett! We join the titular trio of Nanny Ogg, Granny Weatherwax, and Magrat Garlick as they meddle their way across space and time (within reasonably witchy limits, of course). Review your Shakespeare, work up your best lil ghosty sounds and make sure you're in good standing with the Fool's Guild - then join us.MUSIC - Pippin the Hunchback and Thatched Villagers by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) - Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

We're so excited to round out the ZKSHT (Zilpha Keatley Snyder Holy Trinity) with The Headless Cupid. Along with The Egypt Game and The Witches of Worm, this book developed Grace's little brain into a spooky kid mystery machine. Madeleine's jonesing for a trip to the Winchester Mystery House and is very upset with Amanda; we're both reminiscing about the power of playing pretend. Join in the glory of ZKS' unparalleled work - articulating children's inner monologues with such specificity and zero condescension.MUSIC - Pippin the Hunchback and Thatched Villagers by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) - Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

It's Badgerin' Time. We return to the joyous, violent, and feast-laden world of Redwall with Mossflower, by Brian Jacques! Grace breaks down the reasons why this is her favorite of his works, we continue the great “Humans in Mossflower???” debate, and Bella and Boar become our gods. Grab your candied chestnuts and join us.MUSIC - Pippin the Hunchback and Thatched Villagers by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) - Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

We're heading back to Valdemar with Magic's Pawn, by Mercedes Lackey! This absolute doozy of an episode showed us that we could talk about this book for the rest of our lives. Vanyel and Tylendel's love story, revenge mission and subsequent Bad But Life-Changing Stuff are at turns stirring, sweet, cathartic and crushing. Tune up your mind speech and listen in - and let us know if you have a concrete internal monologue along the way.This episode was a listener request - thank you, Gyuri! If you'd like to request a book for us to cover, email us at dragonbabiespodcast@gmail.com.CW - Mentions of suicide. To reach the suicide hotline, call or text 988 (in the US).There is a wee bit of static on this episode, we will vanquish it next time (and are only recording separately for 4 more months thank god).MUSIC - Pippin the Hunchback and Thatched Villagers by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) - Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

Head to the nearest midden and abandon all hope - The Ragwitch has you in her thrall! We have a blast discussing Garth Nix's first novel and following Paul and Julia's external and internal journeys. We consider the ways in which this work shows the beginnings of the Abhorsen series and do our best to start a rumor that Garth is a necromancer. Typical Dragon Babies stuff. Grab your creepiest doll and join us!This episode was a listener request - thank you, Rachael! If you'd like to make a request, leave a comment or email us at dragonbabiespodcast@gmail.com.MUSIC - Pippin the Hunchback and Thatched Villagers by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) - Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

Have you been craving a close reading of the final passage of Hans Christian Andersen's The Snow Queen? No? Well, you should probably listen to this Grace's Reading Corner not-so-mini episode about why society loves a snowy queen anyway.This episode focuses specifically on the illustrated edition by the wonderful Mary Engelbreit, which remains a personal influence.This is a very vibes-forward Cold Book Episode, so grab some cocoa and a blanket and snuggle up for a listen!EPISODE MEDIAA translation of Hans Christian Andersen's "Sneedronningen" by Jean Hersholt (original fairy tale)The Santa Claus BookA Summary and Analysis of Hans Christian Andersen's ‘The Snow Queen' Fairy Tale by Dr. Oliver TearleVisit our website to view the Mary Engelbreit illustrations mentioned!MUSIC - "The Snow Queen" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com). Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

We're so excited to launch our Babetreon - and we're taking the first episode out from behind the paywall! We're discussing the 2006 Ghibli film Tales from Earthsea in all its messy glory.Join for $3/mo to get an extra episode every month. We'll be covering a broader range of materials than we typically do on the main feed - reviews of film and TV adaptations of our favorite books, fantasy picture books, inspirations for our favorite authors' works, voting on our next episodes, and much more!These exclusive episodes will also be a little freer form and they'll delve into Dragon Babies After Dark territory (some good ol' cussin'). Plus, you'll get your very own Pretend Food enamel pin when you sign up (just look at how beautiful they are).Subscribe at https://www.patreon.com/dragonbabies*Please note that this episode is explicit.MUSIC - Pippin the Hunchback and Thatched Villagers by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) - Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

Enchanted poet-donkeys assemble: we're covering The Arkadians, by Lloyd Alexander! You'll love this meta retelling of various Greek mythologies and epics as told through the adventures of Lucien, Joy-in-the-Dance, Fronto, and the approximately 500 other goofy characters they encounter along the way. As the self-proclaimed Emo Fantasy crowd, we love Lloyd Alexander very much and it was a delight to reread his Greek Romp Experiment. Plus: if you're a fan of the 1994 CD-ROM game Wrath of the Gods, then boy do we have a treat for you. Join us!EPISODE MEDIAThe Arkadians on the Lloyd Alexander WikiThe best computer game of all time, Wrath of the GodsMUSIC - Pippin the Hunchback and Thatched Villagers by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) - Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

In which gods become dogs and get stuck in their bods! We're discussing Dogsbody, by Diana Wynne Jones in all its celestial, dog-brained glory. Sirius the dog star is punished for a mysterious murder by being trapped in an earthly pup form - and his only way back to his galaxy is to find the enigmatic Zoi that he threw down to Earth. Leave it to DWJ to make this conceit at turns heartbreaking, hilarious and ultimately bittersweet. Madeleine maintains that for those similarly traumatized by The Tigger Movie, this is a tough read. Grace is too consumed by big dumb dog thoughts to ponder anything other than dumpster leftovers and the lure of the Wild Hunt. Join us!This episode was a listener request - thank you, quemmegalaxy! If you'd like to make a request, leave a comment or email us at dragonbabiespodcast@gmail.com.EPISODE MEDIAMondragon Books in Lewisburg, PAThe Green Ribbon

As would-be dragon riders and adolescents during the early 00's, we're perfectly positioned to discuss Eragon, by Christopher Paolini. This one has haunted us since we started the podcast - we knew it was inevitable and yet we procrastinated until our 101st episode. We break down our conflicted feelings about this teen-penned dragon epic and own up to our own teenage jealousies of both the protagonist and the author himself. Is it a good idea for a child to have a book published by a major house? Is Saphira too subservient to her puny human friend? Is it cool to openly lust after an unconscious woman? Our answers won't surprise you, but we think you'll get a kick out of listening anyway!Note - the audio is a bit crummy on this one due to issues with a non-standard setup, definitely still listenable but not at our usual quality.Shoutout to listener Bailey's long-ago request for an Eragon hate podcast!EPISODE MEDIADragon - Focal Point of Movie box office rankings

To celebrate our 100th (!) full-length episode, we're re-covering the book that began it all: Sabriel, by Garth Nix! In between some very involved gushing about Tim Curry's audiobook performance, we consider the YA fantasy and book podcasting lessons we've learned along the way. This is a goofy one because we're just so delighted to be here - thanks to you all for your support over these last 6 years!There are a few minor audio issues in the first half of the episode where Grace's audio is briefly lower quality, sorry about that!MUSIC - Pippin the Hunchback and Thatched Villagers by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) - Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

HONK. We read The Goose Girl, by Shannon Hale! This retelling of the Grimm fairy tale takes us through the forest, into the goose pen and behind the throne room (best place to eavesdrop on villainous monologuing). We break down protagonist Ani's haunting search for self, attempt to chat with geese on our own, and process beloved horse loss. Ready to knock your enemies' hats off by harnessing the wind? Join us!This episode was a listener request - thank you, Isabel, Lexie, and Gyuri! If you have a book you'd like to request, leave a comment or email us at dragonbabiespodcast@gmail.com.EPISODE MEDIAThe Goose Girl by The Brothers GrimmMUSICMUSIC - Pippin the Hunchback and Thatched Villagers by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) - Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

We unearth a veritable pharaoh's tomb of nostalgia as we discuss The Egypt Game, by Zilpha Keatley Snyder! Join us in considering why this is a fantasy book, ways this may have inspired the creation of Dungeons and Dragons, half-remembered childhood yard games, Stranger Danger, Klutz Press, and creating your own serotonin through magical rituals. This is a looser episode than most because we fully immersed ourselves in our book-related memories, but we think it's one you'll enjoy. ZKS crew unite!MUSIC - Pippin the Hunchback and Thatched Villagers by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) - Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

We met up with our 3 mysterious magical boyfriends and dove into The Changeling Sea, by Patricia A. McKillip! We discuss McKillip's glorious prose, the connection between the ocean and Peri's coming of age, and how annoying it would be to prepare a dinner of oysters after a day of hard labor. Whether ye be a cursed sea dragon or a mischievous magic man, there's something to appreciate - join us!Thanks so much to Isabel for the recommendation. Let us know your favorite Patricia McKillip book, we came to her work far too late and want to explore deeper!MUSIC - Pippin the Hunchback and Thatched Villagers by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) - Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

Part 2 of an ongoing investigation. Many thanks to Drew and Abigail at Macmillan Audio for their wonderful insights! All covers mentioned are up on our website.Episode TranscriptMUSIC - Late Night Radio by Kevin MacLeodhttps://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/7613-late-night-radioLicense: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license