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Welcome to a show based in Sparta, Wisconsin that focuses on living a healthy lifestyle. The hope is by sharing various strategies and behaviors across a whole host of health topics the listener can be happier, healthier and make more informed choices whe

Christopher Tookey


    • Jan 26, 2025 LATEST EPISODE
    • monthly NEW EPISODES
    • 16m AVG DURATION
    • 151 EPISODES


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    Can You "Treat" Menopause?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 26, 2025 15:53


    In the this episode, Dr. Christopher Tookey and Dr. Rose Wobrink review medicines that can help with menopasual symptoms. In this episode they focus on hormone replacement either with creams for the skin or even with daily pills.  We're providing general guidance but everyone is different and you should always discuss with your health care professional management of any disease and therapy before trying anything you discover from a source on the internet (including this podcast). This podcast does not reflect the opinion of our employer.

    How Many Calories Do You Burn Taking The Stairs?

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 23, 2024 9:46


    In the this episode, Dr. Christopher Tookey and Dr. Rose Wobrink investigate just how many calories you burn taking the stairs  We're providing general guidance but everyone is different and you should always discuss with your health care professional management of any disease and therapy before trying anything you discover from a source on the internet (including this podcast). This podcast does not reflect the opinion of our employer.

    When Can Babies Have Cow's Milk?

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 12, 2024 16:30


    In the this episode, Dr. Christopher Tookey and Dr. Rose Wobrink review when and how parents can switch from either breast milk or baby formula to cow's milk. They also share some tips given to them by parents over the years for this challenging milestone.  We're providing general guidance but everyone is different and you should always discuss with your health care professional management of any disease and therapy before trying anything you discover from a source on the internet (including this podcast). This podcast does not reflect the opinion of our employer.

    Which Protein Powder Should I Choose?

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 6, 2024 22:22


    In the this episode, Dr. Christopher Tookey and Dr. Rose Wobrink review the different types of protein powder. They review all your options fom whey to soy or isolate vs concentrate to help you choose what is best for you.  We're providing general guidance but everyone is different and you should always discuss with your health care professional management of any disease and therapy before trying anything you discover from a source on the internet (including this podcast). This podcast does not reflect the opinion of our employer.

    How to Stop A Nosebleed

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 31, 2024 11:40


    In the this episode, Dr. Christopher Tookey and Dr. Rose Wobrink review how to stop a nose bleed. They dive in to technique as well as some medicines that can help. They then review how to prevent them (hopefully) We're providing general guidance but everyone is different and you should always discuss with your health care professional management of any disease and therapy before trying anything you discover from a source on the internet (including this podcast). This podcast does not reflect the opinion of our employer.

    Is MSG Bad For You?

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 28, 2024 10:19


    In the this episode, Dr. Christopher Tookey and Dr. Rose Wobrink dive into the popular flavoring monosodium glutamate, MSG. Is it bad for you? What else should you know?  We're providing general guidance but everyone is different and you should always discuss with your health care professional management of any disease and therapy before trying anything you discover from a source on the internet (including this podcast). This podcast does not reflect the opinion of our employer.

    Which Type of M&M's Are the Healthiest?

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 11, 2024 14:56


    In the this episode, Dr. Christopher Tookey answers a patient question which type of M&M are the heathiest.  We're providing general guidance but everyone is different and you should always discuss with your health care professional management of any disease and therapy before trying anything you discover from a source on the internet (including this podcast). This podcast does not reflect the opinion of our employer.

    Can You Loose Weight By Donating Blood?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 18, 2024 5:03


    In the this episode, Dr. Christopher Tookey answers a patient question about whether regular donation of blood can help someone in their weight loss journey.  We're providing general guidance but everyone is different and you should always discuss with your health care professional management of any disease and therapy before trying anything you discover from a source on the internet (including this podcast). This podcast does not reflect the opinion of our employer.

    How to Pick a New Pair of Sunglasses

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 7, 2024 19:22


    In the this episode, Dr. Christopher Tookey is joined by optomotrist extraordinaire Dr. Martin Williamson. Dr. Williamson runs through what someone should look for when choosing a new pair of shades and some of the marketing gimmicks out there to watch out for.  We're providing general guidance but everyone is different and you should always discuss with your health care professional management of any disease and therapy before trying anything you discover from a source on the internet (including this podcast). This podcast does not reflect the opinion of our employer.

    If You Aren't Sweating, Is It Even a Workout?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 29, 2024 9:13


    In the this episode, Dr. Christopher Tookey runs through whether it counts as a workout if you aren't sweating at the end We're providing general guidance but everyone is different and you should always discuss with your health care professional management of any disease and therapy before trying anything you discover from a source on the internet (including this podcast). This podcast does not reflect the opinion of our employer.

    Is My Testosterone Low?

    Play Episode Listen Later May 24, 2024 19:45


    In this episode, Dr. Christopher Tookey and Dr. Rose Wolbrink start with a frustrating story of a young man led astray about his testosterone. They then review the symptoms of low testosterone and how to get this evaluated. At the end, they discuss how to recogonize some of the less than stellar care being provided by certain clinics and how this harms men.  A disclaimer, we're providing general guidance but everyone is different and you should always discuss with your health care professional management of any disease and therapy before trying anything you discover from a source on the internet (including this podcast)

    Are You in Shape?

    Play Episode Listen Later May 4, 2024 16:40


    In the this episode, Dr. Christopher Tookey and Dr. Rose Wolbrink talk about how someone can tell if they are in shape. They discuss a couple different ways someone can find out and the pros and cons of each method  We're providing general guidance but everyone is different and you should always discuss with your health care professional management of any disease and therapy before trying anything you discover from a source on the internet (including this podcast). This podcast does not reflect the opinion of our employer. 

    What Type of Milk Should You Drink?

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 21, 2024 12:47


    In the this episode, Dr. Christopher Tookey and Dr. Rose Wolbrink review the different types of cow's milk you can buy at the grocery store. Skim, whole or 2%; which one is the right choice for you?  We're providing general guidance but everyone is different and you should always discuss with your health care professional management of any disease and therapy before trying anything you discover from a source on the internet (including this podcast). This podcast does not reflect the opinion of our employer. 

    Money Savers: Prescription Assistance Programs (Free Medicines)

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 9, 2024 8:16


    In the this episode, Dr. Christopher Tookey and Dr. Rose Wolbrink talk about programs that allow patients to recieve their medication for free from pharmaceutical companies. Who is eligible? What medicines are covered? How can someone find out?  We're providing general guidance but everyone is different and you should always discuss with your health care professional management of any disease and therapy before trying anything you discover from a source on the internet (including this podcast). This podcast does not reflect the opinion of our employer.  To search plans check out this link:  https://www.medicare.gov/plan-compare/#/pharmaceutical-assistance-program?year=2024&lang=en 

    Perimenopause and Menopause

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 30, 2024 18:33


    In the this episode, Dr. Christopher Tookey and Dr. Rose Wolbrink dive into a topic that many patients are reluctant to bring up at visits with their provider. They talk about symptoms a woman can experience with perimenopause and what to expect when menopause.  We're providing general guidance but everyone is different and you should always discuss with your health care professional management of any disease and therapy before trying anything you discover from a source on the internet (including this podcast). This podcast does not reflect the opinion of our employer. 

    Phytosterols And Lowering Your Cholesterol

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 23, 2024 8:54


    In the this episode, Dr. Christopher Tookey and Dr. Rose Wolbrink talk about a natural compound found in plants that can help lower someones cholesterol. While the best way to get phytosterols is through a diet of healthy fruit and vegetables, there are some new food products fortified with them that are on the market. But do they work?  We're providing general guidance but everyone is different and you should always discuss with your health care professional management of any disease and therapy before trying anything you discover from a source on the internet (including this podcast). This podcast does not reflect the opinion of our employer. 

    Money Savers Series: Generic vs Name Brand Meds

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 16, 2024 12:06


    In this episode, Dr. Christopher Tookey and Dr. Rose Wolbrink continue our series of episodes dedicated to how patients can save money. They talk about the difference between namebrand and generic medicines and if this is something you should consider  A disclaimer, we're providing general guidance but everyone is different and you should always discuss with your health care professional management of any disease and therapy before trying anything you discover from a source on the internet (including this podcast) 

    Treating Iron Deficiency

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 28, 2024 24:02


    In this episode, Dr. Christopher Tookey and Dr. Rose Wolbrink build off their previous episode on iron deficiency by talking about the wide range of treatment options. They talk about all the available over the counter options and how frequently and how long to take them. They also touch base on who should consider IV iron and how to partner with your health provider during this process.  A disclaimer, we're providing general guidance but everyone is different and you should always discuss with your health care professional management of any disease and therapy before trying anything you discover from a source on the internet (including this podcast) 

    Should I Get My Iron Checked?

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 22, 2024 17:16


    In this episode, Dr. Christopher Tookey and Dr. Rose Wolbrink talk about why someone should think about having their iron checked. In doing this, they review the symptoms of iron defiency and talk about risk factors for being low in iron.  A disclaimer, we're providing general guidance but everyone is different and you should always discuss with your health care professional management of any disease and therapy before trying anything you discover from a source on the internet (including this podcast) 

    Returning to Physical Activity After Pregnancy

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 11, 2024 18:58


    In this episode, Dr. Christopher Tookey is joined by Marci Skemp, D.P.T. to discuss how to get back into phyiscal activity and sports after pregnancy  A disclaimer, we're providing general guidance but everyone is different and you should always discuss with your health care professional management of any disease and therapy before trying anything you discover from a source on the internet (including this podcast) 

    Pregnancy and Pelvic Health

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 4, 2024 12:30


    In this episode, Dr. Christopher Tookey is joined by Marci Skemp, D.P.T. to discuss how pregnacy, labor and delivery can impact pelvic health. She reviews what symptoms a patient can experience and introduces some treatment options.  A disclaimer, we're providing general guidance but everyone is different and you should always discuss with your health care professional management of any disease and therapy before trying anything you discover from a source on the internet (including this podcast) 

    How to Keep Your Skin Looking Younger

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 27, 2024 9:50


    Sunscreen is the most important way to protect your skin. But, there are lots of other options we see advertised to us as well. In this episode, Dr. Christopher Tookey and Dr. Rose Wolbrink review some great over the counter options that can help reverse wrinkles, brown spots, red blemishes and other skin damage. A disclaimer, we're providing general guidance but everyone is different and you should always discuss with your health care professional management of any disease and therapy before trying anything you discover from a source on the internet (including this podcast) 

    How to Clear Out Your Sinuses: Nasal Rinse

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 24, 2024 10:00


    In this episode, Dr. Christopher Tookey and Dr. Rose Wolbrink discuss how to clear out a stuffy nose and sinuses with a nasal rinse. They talk about how to have good technique and how to mix your own solution at home  The Recipe:  2 Cups Distilled Water 1 tsp on non-iondinated salt (sea salt or kosher salt)  1/4 tsp baking soda A disclaimer, we're providing general guidance but everyone is different and you should always discuss with your health care professional management of any disease and therapy before trying anything you discover from a source on the internet (including this podcast)   

    The Best Question We Ever Received

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 13, 2024 7:12


    In this episode, Dr. Christopher Tookey and Dr. Rose Wolbrink reflect on a wonderful question recieved during a recent wellness exam. Borrowing for your next wellness exam might help you get some valuable information when talking with your provider.  A disclaimer, we're providing general guidance but everyone is different and you should always discuss with your health care professional management of any disease and therapy before trying anything you discover from a source on the internet (including this podcast) 

    So Your Provider Suggested Physical Therapy-Featuring "PT Pat"

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 7, 2024 19:08


    In this episode, Dr. Christopher Tookey is joined by Pat Griffith, PT also known affectionately as “PT Pat” to discuss what is physical therapy. They dive into what a patient can expect as well as how someone can get the most out of PT.  You can find out more about what PT Pat is up to at his website (https://www.drptpat.com/)  A disclaimer, we're providing general guidance but everyone is different and you should always discuss with your health care professional management of any disease and therapy before trying anything you discover from a source on the internet (including this podcast) 

    Don't Overcomplicate: Here is an Easy Strategy to Start Improving Your Health

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 30, 2023 5:25


    In this episode, Dr. Christopher Tookey and Dr. Rose Wolbrink take a break from the usual to share a patient example of someone making small changes to lead to great success. This patient made it a goal to eliminate one "bad thing" and add "one good thing" at a time.  A disclaimer, we're providing general guidance but everyone is different and you should always discuss with your health care professional management of any disease and therapy before trying anything you discover from a source on the internet (including this podcast) 

    How Accurate Are Home Pregnancy Tests Anyway?

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 11, 2023 13:38


    Have you ever wondered how accurate a urine pregnancy test is? In this episode, Dr. Christopher Tookey and Dr. Rose Wolbrink talk about accuracy of the test as well as some additional information to set you up for success with urine pregnancy tests.  A disclaimer, we're providing general guidance but everyone is different and you should always discuss with your health care professional management of any disease and therapy before trying anything you discover from a source on the internet (including this podcast) 

    Getting Back to Sleep

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 21, 2023 17:22


    Getting to sleep can be hard, but falling back to sleep can be even more challenging. In this episode, Dr. Christopher Tookey and Dr. Rose Wolbrink discuss some ways to help get back to sleep after a night time interruption.  A disclaimer, we're providing general guidance but everyone is different and you should always discuss with your health care professional management of any disease and therapy before trying anything you discover from a source on the internet (including this podcast) 

    How to Lighten Up Your Starbucks Drink

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 16, 2023 10:28


    In this episode, Dr. Christopher Tookey and Dr. Rose Wolbrink discuss how to lighten up your favorite coffee drink  A disclaimer, we're providing general guidance but everyone is different and you should always discuss with your health care professional management of any disease and therapy before trying anything you discover from a source on the internet (including this podcast) 

    How Many Oreos Go Into Your Starbucks Drink?

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 8, 2023 12:48


    In this episode, Dr. Christopher Tookey and Dr. Rose Wolbrink break down how many Oreos would you need to eat to get the same amount of sugar in common Starbucks drinks.  A disclaimer, we're providing general guidance but everyone is different and you should always discuss with your health care professional management of any disease and therapy before trying anything you discover from a source on the internet (including this podcast) 

    Should My Child Stay Home From School?

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 31, 2023 13:50


    In this episode, Dr. Christopher Tookey and Dr. Rose Wolbrink review when your child should stay home from school versus when they can go when they are under the weather.  A disclaimer, we're providing general guidance but everyone is different and you should always discuss with your health care professional management of any disease and therapy before trying anything you discover from a source on the internet (including this podcast) 

    Marriage vs Chemotherapy

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 23, 2023 6:18


    We're big fans of marriage in general. In this episode we share our thoughts on a cancer treatment study looking at the outcomes of married vs unmarried patients diagnosed with cancer.  A disclaimer, we're providing general guidance but everyone is different and you should always discuss with your health care professional management of any disease and therapy before trying anything you discover from a source on the internet (including this podcast) 

    Time for Your Flu Shot

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 15, 2023 25:45


    It's hard to believe but fall is here! With it comes the annual reposting of one of our most popular and important episodes. In this episode, Dr. Christopher Tookey and Dr. Rose Wolbrink review why the flu shot is so important and talk about the best time to get it A disclaimer, we're providing general guidance but everyone is different and you should always discuss with your health care professional management of any disease and therapy before trying anything you discover from a source on the internet (including this podcast) 

    Too Good to be True? Recognizing Medical Fraud

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 8, 2023 12:33


    In the this episode, Dr. Christopher Tookey and Dr. Rose Wolbrink talk about some ways to spot shady supplements and services that are marketed to us every day.  We're providing general guidance but everyone is different and you should always discuss with your health care professional management of any disease and therapy before trying anything you discover from a source on the internet (including this podcast). This podcast does not reflect the opinion of our employer. 

    Money Savers Series: GoodRx

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 26, 2023 11:23


    In the this episode, Dr. Christopher Tookey and Dr. Rose Wolbrink break down GoodRx. GoodRx can be a great tool to help you find your medicines for the cheapest price, but there are some challenges to be aware of. This is the first of our Money ($) Savers series on how to save your money with out compromising your care.  We're providing general guidance but everyone is different and you should always discuss with your health care professional management of any disease and therapy before trying anything you discover from a source on the internet (including this podcast). This podcast does not reflect the opinion of our employer. 

    How to Choose Your Bug Spray

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 18, 2023 11:28


    In this episode, Dr. Christopher Tookey and Dr. Rose Wolbrink talk about what they look for in a bug spray. Is DEET safe? Are there other options that work?  We're providing general guidance but everyone is different and you should always discuss with your health care professional management of any disease and therapy before trying anything you discover from a source on the internet (including this podcast). This podcast does not reflect the opinion of our employer. 

    How Much Water Should I Drink?

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 8, 2023 7:13


    In this episode, Dr. Christopher Tookey and friend of the show Gideon Wolbrink talk about how to know if you are drinking enough water. How much is enough? Can you drink too much?  We're providing general guidance but everyone is different and you should always discuss with your health care professional management of any disease and therapy before trying anything you discover from a source on the internet (including this podcast). This podcast does not reflect the opinion of our employer. 

    Hydration for Athletes

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 3, 2023 13:13


    In this episode, Dr. Christopher Tookey and friend of the show Gideon Wolbrink talk how athletes can tell if they are hydrated. They also review tips to get hydrated if you find yourself behind.  We're providing general guidance but everyone is different and you should always discuss with your health care professional management of any disease and therapy before trying anything you discover from a source on the internet (including this podcast). This podcast does not reflect the opinion of our employer. 

    Shin Splints

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 27, 2023 10:52


    With high school sports ramping up, Dr. Christopher Tookey and friend of the show Gideon Wolbrink talk about shin spints. They go over what causes them, how to treat them and how to prevent them.  We're providing general guidance but everyone is different and you should always discuss with your health care professional management of any disease and therapy before trying anything you discover from a source on the internet (including this podcast). This podcast does not reflect the opinion of our employer. 

    Ramblings of a New Dad

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 20, 2023 20:27


    After a break for paternity leave, Dr. Christopher Tookey and Dr. Rose Wolbrink take a break from the usual and chat a little bit about what it has been like to be a new father.  We're providing general guidance but everyone is different and you should always discuss with your health care professional management of any disease and therapy before trying anything you discover from a source on the internet (including this podcast). This podcast does not reflect the opinion of our employer. 

    Am I Getting Enough Sleep?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 8, 2023 11:16


    In this episode, Dr. Christopher Tookey and Dr. Rose Wolbrink review signs you might not be getting enough sleep. We're providing general guidance but everyone is different and you should always discuss with your health care professional management of any disease and therapy before trying anything you discover from a source on the internet (including this podcast). This podcast does not reflect the opinion of our employer. 

    Razor Rash

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 25, 2023 11:06


    In this episode, Dr. Christopher Tookey and Dr. Rose Wolbrink review razor rash and how to prevent and treat it.  We're providing general guidance but everyone is different and you should always discuss with your health care professional management of any disease and therapy before trying anything you discover from a source on the internet (including this podcast). This podcast does not reflect the opinion of our employer. 

    Bug Bites

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 18, 2023 10:16


    Summer is here! In case you or a loved one has the pleasure of a bug bite; take a listen to Dr. Christopher Tookey and Dr. Rose Wolbrink review easy steps to treat it.  We're providing general guidance but everyone is different and you should always discuss with your health care professional management of any disease and therapy before trying anything you discover from a source on the internet (including this podcast). This podcast does not reflect the opinion of our employer. 

    How to Naturally "Up" Your Testosterone

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 4, 2023 17:40


    Lately, Dr. Christopher Tookey has been seeing quite a few ads marketing products that are supposed to "increase" testosterone. In this episode, Christopher Tookey, M.D. and Rose Wolbrink, M.D. review healthy habits to optomize someones natural testosterone levels. This is the first of a mulitipart series on testosterone.  We're providing general guidance but everyone is different and you should always discuss with your health care professional management of any disease and therapy before trying anything you discover from a source on the internet (including this podcast). This podcast does not reflect the opinion of our employer. 

    Exercises for Stress Incontinence (Kegels)

    Play Episode Listen Later May 28, 2023 11:33


    Building off our previous episode about overactive bladder, Christopher Tookey, M.D. and Rose Wolbrink, M.D. review how to strengthen the muscles surrounding your bladder to give you back control of your bladder. This episode is focused on those experiencing involuntary leakage while coughing or lifting but can also help anyone experiencing overactive bladder have better success bladder training.  We're providing general guidance but everyone is different and you should always discuss with your health care professional management of any disease and therapy before trying anything you discover from a source on the internet (including this podcast). This podcast does not reflect the opinion of our employer. 

    Bladder Training for Overactive Bladder

    Play Episode Listen Later May 21, 2023 10:29


    If you're feeling like you spend most of your day thinking about your next trip to the bathroom, check out this episode where Christopher Tookey, M.D. and Rose Wolbrink, M.D. talk about how to improve symptoms of overactive bladder without medications.  We're providing general guidance but everyone is different and you should always discuss with your health care professional management of any disease and therapy before trying anything you discover from a source on the internet (including this podcast). This podcast does not reflect the opinion of our employer. 

    College Health Prep and Physicals

    Play Episode Listen Later May 14, 2023 22:24


    In this rebroadcast of one of our most popular episodes, Christopher Tookey, M.D. and Rose Wolbrink, M.D. talk about how a family member of a person heading off to college can help them prepare from a health perspective. They also cover some common health challenges new college students can face and steps to prepare for those situations.  We're providing general guidance but everyone is different and you should always discuss with your health care professional management of any disease and therapy before trying anything you discover from a source on the internet (including this podcast). This podcast does not reflect the opinion of our employer. 

    The 5 Senses

    Play Episode Listen Later May 7, 2023 8:35


    In a busy and fast paced world, sometimes you need a way to hit the reset button. In this episode, Dr. Tookey and Dr. Wolbrink talk about the 5 Senses. This is one of our favorite mindfullness exercises that can help with anxiety, stress, feeling overwhelmed or even just something to help you focus before a big moment.  A disclaimer, we're providing general guidance but everyone is different and you should always discuss with your health care professional management of any disease and therapy before trying anything you discover from a source on the internet (including this podcast)

    How Much Sleep Does My Child Need?

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 30, 2023 14:58


    How much should your kid sleep?  The answer may shock you as most kids today simply aren't getting the quality sleep they need to be successful. In this episode Dr. Tookey and Dr. Wolbrink run though how much sleep kids need from newborns to high school age kids. Dr. Wolbrink then shares her BEARS mnemonic look for what to change to help get kids back on track with their sleep  A disclaimer, we're providing general guidance but everyone is different and you should always discuss with your health care professional management of any disease and therapy before trying anything you discover from a source on the internet (including this podcast)

    What Type of IUD is Best?

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 24, 2023 19:17


    In this episode, Dr. Christopher Tookey and Dr. Rose Wolbrink talk about the different interuterine devices (IUDs) available both for birth control and heavy menstral bleeding.  A disclaimer, we're providing general guidance but everyone is different and you should always discuss with your health care professional management of any disease and therapy before trying anything you discover from a source on the internet (including this podcast)

    Allergies or a Sinus Infection?

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 16, 2023 10:05


    In this episode, Dr. Christopher Tookey and Dr. Rose Wolbrink welcome Spring by giving some tips on how to tell if your stuffy, running nose is from allergies or from a virus or bacteria  A disclaimer, we're providing general guidance but everyone is different and you should always discuss with your health care professional management of any disease and therapy before trying anything you discover from a source on the internet (including this podcast)

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