Our POoRCHoices the Podcast

This week the gang learns you can't fix stupid with news stories of people making some significantly poor choices including a teacher, the son of a defensive coordinator, and a hiker on Mt. Fuji.   Sarcastro & Fatty have a mutual poor choice in going to the movies with their kids and Commando learns a valuable lesson in appliance maintenance.  Intro and Outro music written and performed by Andrés Rodríguez (Androzguitar). 

This week the fellas discuss various cocktails and spirits they enjoy, or don't.  Fatty shares his very loose recipie for a what's basically a hillbilly beverage.  Then the group comes up with a plan to make a terrible business plan to introduce a new alcoholic beverage in the market.    Intro and Outro music written and performed by Andrés Rodríguez (Androzguitar). 

Welcome to the The First Ones, an Our POoRCHoices podcast.  On this series Sarcastro picks a show from yesteryear and then rallies some (or all) of the fellas to join him in recapping just the first episode of said show while dissecting it and determining if it's a show that would fly in today's entertainment landscape. This month Sarcastro selected the late 80's show, My Secret Identity, starring a young Jerry O'Connell just three years off of starring in Stand By Me and 6 years before his stint on Sliders.   Banky joins in to help recall how much they actually don't remember about the show and question the writers' decision to have the power of flight propelled by hairspray cans used to rescue a damsel in distress when the main character had super speed.  As they look to find who could play the main character in a reboot of the series, Sarcastro suggests using Prince Sarcastro as the new teen star and Captain (Sarcastro's dad) as the crazy scientist neighbor.   Intro and outro interpreted and performed by Sarcastro

This week the whole gang joins in for the kick off of season five where they discuss Sarcastro getting minorly assaulted by Prince Sarcastro and Fatty starting a new fat guy themed line of tactical training and cooling garments.   The poor choices made this week have Commando underestimating the time and distance of a family hike and Banky spending too much time in the direct sun doing the very mininal amount of physical activity with an unexepected result during the show.  Intro and Outro music written and performed by Andrés Rodríguez (Androzguitar). 

 This week the whole gang gathers around to talk about what they currently are enjoying on the vairous streaming services as well as shows they wish they could forget and watch again for the first time and some shows that they would like to see.    Intro and Outro music written and performed by Andrés Rodríguez (Androzguitar).

This week it's poor choice on top of poor choice with Fatty coming in clutch with three this week, Banky winding up in a crap situation and Commando recalling the time he nearly lost a toe.     Intro and Outro music written and performed by Andrés Rodríguez (Androzguitar).

This week Commando, Sarcastro, Fatty, and Banky discuss beating up their livers, making plans to check out a monthly wrestling event at the farmer's market they used to frequent in their youth (am some still do) and the option to have Banky's wedding during one of those events and having it catered by one of the eateries in the market.   Intro and Outro music written and performed by Andrés Rodríguez (Androzguitar).

This week Commando and Fatty talk about their experiences with a couple BINGO events at some local social clubs and the small games of chance that are very present at many social clubs in their area of Pennsylvania.  Intro and Outro music written and performed by Andrés Rodríguez (Androzguitar).

Welcome to the The First Ones, an Our POoRCHoices podcast.  On this series Sarcastro picks a show from yesteryear and then rallies some (or all) of the fellas to join him in recapping just the first episode of said show while dissecting it and determining if it's a show that would fly in today's entertainment landscape. This month on The First Ones, Sarcastro is joined by Fatty and Banky to talk about The Facts of Life which Sarcastro noted he had some help selecting which series to cover for this episode from friend of the show and co-host of The Sunnydale Diaries: A Buffy Podcast, Melanie.   With a premier in the fall of 1979 none of them realized how large of a cast the first episode had and that future star Molly Ringwald was in the first season and Nancy McKeon's rough and tough, street-wise Jo Polniaczek wasn't.  Which makes them wonder, had they ever seen the first season let alone the first episode at all?      Intro and outro interpreted and performed Sarcastro.

The gang gets together to discuss the events of their annual Guys Weekend (or basically Guys Half Week) trip at Fatty's cabin where it was the closest they ever came to being able to have the Weekend at Bernie's experience. Intro and Outro music written and performed by Andrés Rodríguez (Androzguitar).

This week the whole gang gathers around to discuss items they have on their bucket lists from a quiet day at home alone, to getting to see the northern (and southern lights), riding in a blimp, flying a plane and more.   Intro and Outro music written and performed by Andrés Rodríguez (Androzguitar).

This week Sarcastro, Fatty, and Banky discuss Fatty's recent trip to the Adirondack Mountains which kicks off a discussion of places each of them would like to live and defintely some places they wouldn't for a variety of reasons.   Intro and Outro music written and performed by Andrés Rodríguez (Androzguitar).

This week the gang tries to understand the slang that the children of today are using based on a conversation Sarcastro had with Prince Sarcastro.  This pushes them to turn to the internet for insight on the cool words and phrases of today before getting asked the greatest question of all from The Boy when Fatty calls him while recording the show to see if he had some insight on what some of the words mean.  The poor choice this week simply being that old men are using the slang in conversation with their children in an effort to make them realize how dumb it sounds which maybe makes the kids feel like the grown-ups are a just old.   Intro and Outro music written and performed by Andrés Rodríguez (Androzguitar).

Welcome to the The First Ones an Our POoRCHoices podcast.  On this series Sarcastro picks a show from yesteryear and then rallies some (or all) of the fellas to join him in recapping just the first episode of said show while dissecting it and determining if it's a show that would fly in today's entertainment landscape. This month on The First Ones, Sarcastro is joined by Corporal Fatty, Banky to discuss the first episode of Andy Richter Controls the Universe from 2002.  Turns out it's a show where Andy Richter may not be the nice guy he imagines himself to be based on the dubious plan to get his new office mate fired and repeatedly imagines the bigoted deceased founder of his compnay talking to him which may make Andy a bigot as well.  The fact that it was from 2002 shocked Banky as he thought it was much more recent and Corporal points out that it was a staple to watch for him while living at The Porch.    Intro and outro interpreted and performed Sarcastro.

This week Corporal, Sarcastro and Banky talk about burning the candle at both ends and the fact that "the big game" is played on a Sunday evening/night instead of a Sunday afternoon or maybe even a Saturday so the Monday after isn't so exhuasting.   They share their experiences of the way that third shift work took it out of them for various reasons. They also discuss the absurd types of sports betting and how pretty much anything can be made into a bet and someone will put money down on that action one way or another.   Intro and Outro music written and performed by Andrés Rodríguez (Androzguitar).

This week Commando, Sarcastro, Fatty, and Banky discuss getting ready for the 2025 Porch Guys Weekend at Fatty's cabin including not having the television accessible this time and finding the right old fashioned recipe to kick off the opening night festivities.  What sorts of things to cook, like wings of science, ribs and grazing foods instead of a proper meal since it seems to go wasted when they get wasted.   In the real of poor choices Commando gets sucked into the One Piece anime.  After some time to think about the finale of it, Fatty determines what he thought was a poor choice in watching the series Ragnarock turned out to not be such a poor choice.  Banky goes to five pickels of fury level of angry with a series of Door Dash deliveries where his food is handled poorly but yet he keeps using the service.   Intro and Outro music written and performed by Andrés Rodríguez (Androzguitar).

This week Corporal, Sarcastro, Fatty, and Banky each fantasize about what their top five bands or artists (living or dead) that they could see at a festival would be.   Intro and Outro music written and performed by Andrés Rodríguez (Androzguitar).

This week the gang talks about the delicious monstrosities that are fair foods and what ones sound appealing and which need to stop being sold and how they'll all lead to needing meds to fix things.   Commando makes a poor choice that leads to a death and minor repairs for his truck.  Sarcastro tries to resolve some bowel concerns with "rocket fuel" to only feel dissapointment.  Banky's poor choice in procastinating on some landscaping turns out to be a good choice for his shed.   Intro and Outro music written and performed by Andrés Rodríguez (Androzguitar).

Welcome to the The First Ones an Our POoRCHoices podcast.  On this series Sarcastro picks a show from yesteryear and then rallies some (or all) of the fellas to join him in recapping just the first episode of said show while dissecting it and determining if it's a show that would fly in today's entertainment landscape. This month on The First Ones, Sarcastro is joined by Fatty and Banky to discuss the first episode of Mr. Belvedere from 1985, starring Christopher Hewitt as the titular Mr. Belvedere who based on just this first episode could potentially be a grifter with how he never confirms that he was sent by the "domestic agency" to be a live in housekeeper and nanny to the Owens family and their patriarch played by Bob Uecker.   Intro and outro interpreted and performed Sarcastro.

This week the gang talks about the very real and increasingly concern over people experiencing post work restraint collapse and how some of them are impacted by it and how they cope. Sarcastro nearly makes a poor choice but is saved by Queen Sarcastro.  Corporal's preparring to make a good poor choice with a pending purchase.  Fatty makes a poor choice in thinking he can burn the candle at both ends between work. play and family obligations on limited sleep and Banky's body reminds him he's been making too many poor choices.   Intro and Outro music written and performed by Andrés Rodríguez (Androzguitar).

This week the fellas get together to talk about an artcile Commando shared about Aeros and their grand plans to start to use airships as floating distribution centers with drones making the final step delivery.  They debate if this makes sense and if it's feasible to run in various markets.  This leads to Sarcastro pointing out they the only jobs the job openings they have on their website are for interns to basically prove that this model would work which then ends up having Fatty point out that he's not buying into it as they don't even have an actual airship to do this with that they've proven this would work.  Banky and Fatty share their experience (or rather Banky's inexperience) at an indoor shooting range over the weekend.  Commando points out that the current ongoing poor choice is the hobby of getting into going to shooting ranges is how much money it's collectively costing.  Intro and Outro music written and performed by Andrés Rodríguez (Androzguitar).

This week on the show to celebrate the 200th episode, the whole gang gets together to discuss the final results of their 2024 Celebrity Bingo Cards of Death.  Then the conversation shifts to an article Fatty brought up a few months ago about the most popular songs people play as they prepare to die and suggested everyone determine what songs they would want played at their funerals and which they'd want to play at each others cast member's funeral.   Fatty shares a poor choice in picking up a call from his old man and Banky performs a self induced unintentional allergy test. Intro and Outro music written and performed by Andrés Rodríguez (Androzguitar).

This week the fellas talk about the Mandela Effect and the possibility of the multiverse being created in 2008 by CERN which explains why we all collectively remember so many things the wrong way.  Sarcastro nearly makes a poor choice in riding a bike for 24 miles but avioids it thanks to 1/2 mile occasion rides he takes.  Meanwhile Fatty waits to see if a concert featuing the Coral Reefer Band (Jimmy Buffett's band) ends up being a poor choice and Corporal notes that the poorest choice he's made is underestimating how much getting into owning a firearm would end up costing Intro and Outro music written and performed by Andrés Rodríguez (Androzguitar).

This week the whole group is together to start 2025 by talking about how they ended 2024 from the gun show that Fatty and Banky attended and the scavenger hunt that Sarcastro created for them to complete there.  Sarcastro gets corrected by a listener in person about a statement he made about Police Academy the movie in a previous episode.   They talk about their holiday festivities for Christmas and New Years.  Banky shares his ongoing experience in background checks before the gang explores the idea of going to a conference for portable restroom operators in Indianapolis, Indiana. The gang explore the idea of going to the Water & Wastewater Equipment, Treatment & Transport show based on a pack in catalog with this the newest editions of PRO Monlthy that Fatty received.  Commando comes to the table with multiple poor choices this week to open and close the show. Intro and Outro music written and performed by Andrés Rodríguez (Androzguitar).

Welcome to the The First Ones an Our POoRCHoices podcast.  On this series Sarcastro picks a show from yesteryear and then rallies some (or all) of the fellas to join him in recapping just the first episode of said show while dissecting it and determining if it's a show that would fly in today's entertainment landscape. In episode five of The First Ones, Sarcastro is joined by Fatty and Banky to discuss the first episode of Newhart from 1982, starring Bob Newhart playing a do-it-yourself author named Dick Louden who moves from the big city to a quaint Vermont town to restore the historic Stratford Inn with his wife Joanna (played by Mary Frann) and they meet a cast of characters that have a certain charm or lack thereof (yeah, we're talking about the annoying character Kirk Devane).  Ringing through with true Bob Newhart comedy and the phone call bit, is it enough to get everyone to watch more episodes of the show?  Could it be remade today and if so, who would could fill Bob Newhart's shoes as an out of his element author turned inn keeper?   Intro and outro interpreted and performed Sarcastro.

This week before getting into the subject of weird science expirements that researchers have done like shooting manhole covers into space and teach rats to drive cars for cereal from articles provided by Corporal and Sarcastro, the whole gang talks about Fatty and Banky's upcoming field trip to a gun show where they'll certainly stick out like sore thumbs.  While they try to convince Commando to join them for the event Sarcastro suggests coming up with a scavenger hunt for them to complete.  Intro and Outro music written and performed by Andrés Rodríguez (Androzguitar).

This week Sarcastro, Fatty and Banky discuss an article Sarcastro found regarding a surgery gone wrong in Florida where a man's liver was removed instead of his spleen leading to his death.  This turns the conversation to other times where doctors have made mistakes on removing the wrong part of the body during surgery.  Fatty and Sarcastro talk about their experiences with surgeries for their vasectomies and how Fatty had to do it twice.   For poor choices this week Sarcastro tries to hang bird feeders to add a relaxing atmosphere to the back yard to have it backfire on him. Banky thought he could lift a wood stove like he was still in his early 20's and tweaked his back and learned to appreciate the over the counter version of hillbilly pain relief.  Meanwhile, Fatty made a choice so poor, it couldn't be discussed on air.     Intro and Outro music written and performed by Andrés Rodríguez (Androzguitar).

This week the whole gang gets together to talk about hangovers and their various remedies for them in their younger years and what they do today, But before they get to that Corporal and Banky talk about making some second amendment purchases and Banky joining a sportsmans club.  Later in the show they discuss their more frivoulous Black Friday purchases for this year and some of those prove to be good choices.  Intro and Outro music written and performed by Andrés Rodríguez (Androzguitar).

This week Fatty and Banky kick off the show talking about using smart assistants for their homes, a terrible choice in a beer and Fatty's lousy eye insurance.  After that they discuss a treasure hunting book by Jon Collins-Black that leads to five different chests hidden around the continental United States and their desire to try to solve the clues in the book, and what the POoRCHoices version of something like this would look like.   Intro and Outro music written and performed by Andrés Rodríguez (Androzguitar).

Welcome to the The First Ones an Our POoRCHoices podcast.  On this series Sarcastro picks a show from yesteryear and then rallies some (or all) of the fellas to join him in recapping just the first episode of said show while dissecting it and determining if it's a show that would fly in today's entertainment landscape. In episode four of The First Ones, Sarcastro is joined by Fatty and Banky to discuss the first episode of The Bob Newhart Show, starring Bob Newhart playing a psychologist named Robert Hartley who makes his living off the good people of Chicago and their problems.  There's no question that everyone liked the show enough to watch it but they all wonder why the character's name isn't also Bob Newhart since it's his name in the title. Intro and outro interpreted and performed by Banky on behalf of Sarcastro.

This week the gang gets together to talk about some disappointments they've experienced including one they all felt in the recent Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson fight which leads them to share individual disappointments they felt which inlcude Sarcastro watching the time Giraldo Rivera opened Al Capone's vault on live television.  Fatty recalls the end of the show Lost.  For Commando it was the anticlimatic end of the OJ Simpson chase.   In the name of science, Banky finds disappointment in a holiday side that happens to hold a special place in Commando's heart (and stomach). Intro and Outro music written and performed by Andrés Rodríguez (Androzguitar).

This week the fellas get together to talk about Rachael "Raygun" Gunn retiring from competetive breakdancing.  Then about a bear that was murdered while eating pancakes in Tennessee a Wisconsin man who poorly tried to fake his death and is on the lamb, then about a science expiriment where people can communicate with each other while unconscious and some of the uncomfortable situations that can arise from sharing dreams with your friends.  Intro and Outro music written and performed by Andrés Rodríguez (Androzguitar).

This week the fellas get together to talk about Banky's experience with his hotel in Milwaukee, the gross side effects of one of his medications and their poor choices including Prince Sarcastro starting to take snacks into the bathroom.  Intro and Outro music written and performed by Andrés Rodríguez (Androzguitar).

This week the whole gang gets together to discuss phobias that they have which include getting blood drawn, sensory deprivation, public parking, foam stuffing and glitter.  But before that they talk pizza and a particular mall, airport and highway rest stop "pizza" chain. Intro and Outro music written and performed by Andrés Rodríguez (Androzguitar).

Welcome to the The First Ones an Our POoRCHoices podcast.  On this series Sarcastro picks a show from yesteryear and then rallies some (or all) of the fellas to join him in recapping just the first episode of said show while dissecting it and determining if it's a show that would fly in today's entertainment landscape. In episode three of The First Ones, Sarcastro is joined by Fatty and Banky to discuss the first episode of All in the Family, starring Carrol O'Connor, Jean Stapleton, Sallie Struthers and Rob Reiner.  It's the story of a New York City family locking horns on societal and political views on how the world should work and how we should treat each other as a society which feels like it's holding a mirror up even today to make us look at ourselves and makes the fellas realize how much of the old ways of thinking are still present over 50 years later. Intro and outro interpreted and performed by Sarcastro.

This week Corporal returns and the whole gang talks about the voices (or lack thereof) they have in their heads when they do various tasks like read books, read emails, do basic math problems, or just while doing random activities.  That topic shifts into several other discussions including what movies based on books failed to make the same impact as the books for them. In the line up of poor choices for the week, Corporal finally uses a birthday present he was gifted a year ago, Commando and Fatty have a joint poor choice in not planning ahead for food and Banky ponders taking on a lighting rewire job at home. Intro and Outro music written and performed by Andrés Rodríguez (Androzguitar).

This week the fellas discuss that so often there are two types of people in a relationship, those who believe that showing up on time means you're already late and those who don't give a damn about time.   In the realm of poor choices for the week, Commando is second guessing his recent pop-up tent purchase for which Sarcastro offers an alternative use for to make it not a poor choice.  Sarcastro makes a poor choice in taking a short cut for a dinner recipe and Fatty learns that no good deed goes unpunished.  Intro and Outro music written and performed by Andrés Rodríguez (Androzguitar).

This week the fellas talk about Sarcastro's update about his experience after having Hurricane Milton blowing through town, the benefits of the bar and breakfast at Embassy Suites hotels, and taking the kids to Halloween haunts.   Fatty provides an update on the poker run he was doing at the lake, Sarcastro gets the silent treamtment, Commando screws up his Spotify algorithm and Banky starts to experiment on himself for food sensitivities and receives some advice from Dr. Fatty.   Intro and Outro music written and performed by Andrés Rodríguez (Androzguitar).

This week Fatty and Banky talk about decorating for the holidays (mainly Halloween and Christmas) and their memories of how some of the houses in their neighborhoods set up for Halloween and the haunted house run by the local Jaycees.   Intro and Outro music written and performed by Andrés Rodríguez (Androzguitar).

This week Sarcastro, Fatty, and Banky sit down to discuss three recent new stories involving two teens stealing a NYC subway train, the annual Burmese python hunt in the Florida everglades and the alleged murder of Hvladimir the Russian "spy whale". Intro and Outro music written and performed by Andrés Rodríguez (Androzguitar).

Welcome to the The First Ones an Our POoRCHoices podcast.  On this series Sarcastro picks a show from yesteryear and then rallies some (or all) of the fellas to join him in recapping just the first episode of said show while dissecting it and determining if it's a show that would fly in today's entertainment landscape. In episode two of The First Ones, Sarcastro is joined by Fatty and Banky to discuss the first episode of Bosom Buddies starring Tom Hanks and Peter Scolari in a story of two young ad agency associates just looking for affordable housing and love in 1980's New York City. Intro and outro interpreted and performed by Sarcastro.

This week Commando kicks off the conversation with a quick story about drones before the fellas talk about the potential reopening of the Three Mile Island nuclear power plant to produce enough power for Microsoft's AI ambitions and what that means for other nuclear power plants that have closed down as the demand for power on the various grids increases.  An act of Mother Nature saves Sarcastro from an event he wasn't high on going to and Fatty gets a visit from Tim-May that keeps him up all night before a family outing and trying fast food chicken.   Intro and Outro music written and performed by Andrés Rodríguez (Androzguitar).

This week Sarcastro, Fatty and Banky get together to talk about an Instagram Reel that Fatty shared from SemiSauced and theorize about 4 activities that they would have to complete in the span of a single day where they have to select which activities they would do 6 times, 12 time, 18 time or 24 times and it shows that for Sarcastro not much has changed in 20+ years.  Intro and Outro music written and performed by Andrés Rodríguez (Androzguitar).

This week the entire gang is back together to discuss an article Sarcastro found about the wishes of a man who donated 1,300 acres of land to a Boy Scouts of America (soon to be Scouting America) troop in Hernando County, Florida with the wishes that the Scouts would never sell it or use it for commerical use otherwise the land ownership would go to the County.  It sparks a very lively debate with Commando and Fatty regarding what should happen with the land.   Commando makes a poor choice to eat at a popular fast food chain just hours before recording the episode.   Intro and Outro music written and performed by Andrés Rodríguez (Androzguitar).

This week Commando is back and brings up an article about a woman who appears to have passed away at work on a Friday and wasn't found until the following Tuesday which sparks the question from Sarcastro on how long it would take until anyone would realize any of the show members were dead.  Fatty discusses a poor choice made by his wife while she was President during a popular drinking card game.. Sarcastro shares Queen Sarcastro's poor choice in waiting until mid-august to get landscaping dirt delivered and Commando makes a family cookout faux pas. Intro and Outro music written and performed by Andrés Rodríguez (Androzguitar).

Welcome to the The First Ones an Our POoRCHoices podcast.  On this series Sarcastro picks a show from yesteryear and then rallies some (or all) of the fellas to join him in recapping just the first episode of said show while dissecting it and determining if it's a show that would fly in today's entertainment landscape.   In the premier episode Sarcastro is joined by Banky to discuss the first episode of ALF and his meeting of the Tanner family after his space ship crashes into their garage and seemingly caused no alarm to the neighborhood.  The first episode leaves Banky wondering what Willie Tanner did for a living and has Sarcastro realizing that while he loved the show at 7 years old, that love doesn't hold up into his adult life.    Intro and outro interpreted and performed by Sarcastro.

This week the fellas start by discussing an article Sarcastro found about Pavel Durov (creator of Telegram and billionaire entrepreneur) and the claim that he is the biological father to at least 100 children through donations he's made over the past 15 years.  This leads to an inquiry of how many kids other celebs have and without judgment they do some light research live on the show for a slew of actors, musicians and athletes and they learn pretty quickly that more money equals more children.   Intro and Outro music written and performed by Andrés Rodríguez (Androzguitar).

This week Fatty proposes that the fellas identify the three Muppets that they feel describe each of themselve best and that you can be judged on those.  Sarcastro provides an article about French actor Alain Delon's family not honoring his wishes to have his dog euthanized when he passed away and discuss what their feelings are on if that should be something that is honored which leads into Fatty volunteering to have his body used for fashion and weird taxedermy projects when he dies. Intro and Outro music written and performed by Andrés Rodríguez (Androzguitar).

This week Sarcastro, Fatty and Banky talk about an article where a man is attempting to sue Disney but they are trying to get it thrown down to arbitration because of what was written in the terms of service for a trial of Disney+ he had signed up for years ago.  Intro and Outro music written and performed by Andrés Rodríguez (Androzguitar).

This week Corporal, Fatty and Banky discuss a recent ruling upheld by the Ohio Supreme Court noting that boneless chicken wings can in fact have bones in them and it should be expected which Fatty agrees with while Corporal and Banky feel that they shouldn't have bones without a disclaimer.  Fatty provides a dissapointing update to his cruise experience but overall had a great time.  Corporal shares his poor choice of deciding to sleeping in insead of getting up at 8am to do some landscaping and Banky learns the hard way to start checking his work during the first steps of building something. Intro and Outro music written and performed by Andrés Rodríguez (Androzguitar).

This week the fellas talk about an article Sarcastro found on Auto Brewery Syndrome in where your body produces alcohol making you appear intoxicated.  Fatty shares some knowledge that Jim Koch of Samuel Adams/Boston Beer Company fame allegedly consumes dry yeast in order to prevent getting drunk.  Corporal shares a Reddit link of some idiot trying to give themselves Auto Brewery Syndrom and big shock it doesn't go according to plan.   For poor choices made this week, Sarcastro's procrastination to change the brakes on Queen Sarcastro's car lead to him having to work on it during the hottest week of the summer.  Fatty gets sloppy with his knife skills right before his cruise.  Banky spends too much money on disappointing hot dogs on National Hot Dog Day. Intro and Outro music written and performed by Andrés Rodríguez (Androzguitar).