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An unabashedly nerdy swan dive into networking technology. Weekly episodes feature industry experts, real-life network engineers and vendors sharing useful information to keep your professional knowledge sharp.

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    The Packet Pushers - Heavy Networking podcast is an incredibly insightful and informative show that delves deep into the world of networking technology. Hosted by Greg Ferro and Ethan Banks, this podcast features conversations with experts in the field who provide practical applications and real-world examples of emerging technologies. Whether you're a network engineer, software engineer, or just someone interested in staying on top of technological advancements, this podcast offers valuable knowledge and perspectives.

    One of the best aspects of The Packet Pushers - Heavy Networking podcast is the range of topics covered. The hosts and guests discuss both widely deployed technologies and those still on the startup scene, providing listeners with a comprehensive understanding of what's currently available as well as what may be coming in the future. The conversations are detailed, thorough, and filled with insights that are useful for professionals at all levels of expertise in the networking field. Additionally, the hosts bring humor and relatability to their discussions, making the content engaging and enjoyable to listen to.

    There aren't many negative aspects to mention about this podcast. However, some listeners might find that certain topics or technical discussions are too advanced or specialized for their level of understanding. While this is understandable given the nature of the show, it could potentially alienate some less experienced or casual listeners who are seeking broader insights into networking technology.

    In conclusion, The Packet Pushers - Heavy Networking podcast is a must-listen for anyone interested in networking technology. With its mix of informative discussions, knowledgeable guests, and engaging delivery style, this podcast provides valuable insights into current trends and future developments in the field. Whether you're a seasoned professional or just starting out in your career, this podcast offers something for everyone interested in staying ahead in the rapidly evolving world of networking technology.



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    HN760: Mitigate Iot/OT Vulnerabilities with Guided Virtual Patching (Sponsored)

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 6, 2024 42:55


    Today on Heavy Networking, sponsored by Palo Alto Networks, we explore how virtual patching can be used to protect IoT and OT devices. Virtual patching leverages intrusion detection and intrusion detection, combined with threat research, to block exploits targeting IoT and OT devices. Why would you use virtual patching? When it comes to IoT and... Read more »

    HN 759: Deploying the BGP Monitoring Protocol (BMP) at ISP Scale

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 22, 2024 56:32


    The BGP Monitoring Protocol, or BMP, is an IETF standard. With BMP you can send BGP prefixes and updates from a router to a collector before any policy filters are applied. Once collected, you can analyze this routing data without any impact on the router itself. On today’s Heavy Networking, we talk with Bart Dorlandt,... Read more »

    HN758: How Selector Built an AI Language Model for Networking (Sponsored)

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 15, 2024 55:54


    On today's episode, artificial intelligence with sponsor Selector.AI. If you're curious and maybe still skeptical about the value AI brings to network operations, listen to this episode. Selector is on the forefront of AIOps for networking, building models that are customized and specifically targeted at networks. What Selector is doing is NOT simply the low-hanging... Read more »

    HN757: Building a DIY SD-WAN to Serve (Very) Remote Customers

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 8, 2024 49:29


    On today's episode, we chat with wireless ISP engineer Elijah Zeida. Elijah had an interesting connectivity challenge to solve for a remote mountain town that relies on a wireless connection for Internet access, and not much budget to solve it with. But he got it done by building his own SD-WAN using Mikrotik boxes and... Read more »

    HN756: Alkira Enhances Its Multi-Cloud Networking With ZTNA and Security (Sponsored)

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 1, 2024 47:04


    Alkira provides a Multi-Cloud Networking Service (MCNS) that lets you connect public cloud and on-prem locations using a cloud-delivered, as-a-service approach. But Alkira offers more than just multi-cloud connectivity. On today’s sponsored episode of Heavy Networking, we dig into Alkira’s full set of offerings, which include networking, visibility, governance, and security controls such as firewalls... Read more »

    HN755: Optimizing Ethernet to Meet AI Infrastructure Demands

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 25, 2024 69:49


    Ethernet competes with InfiniBand as a network fabric for AI workloads such as model training. One issue is that AI jobs don't tolerate latency, drops, and retransmits. In other words, AI workloads do best with a lossless network. And while Ethernet has kept up with increasing demands to support greater bandwidth and throughput, it was... Read more »

    HN754: Secure AI by Design with Palo Alto Networks (Sponsored)

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 18, 2024 52:37


    AI is finding its way into more and more consumer and business applications. In particular, the widespread use of Generative AI raises a serious question: how secure is it? In this sponsored Heavy Networking episode we discuss security risks of AI tools and ways to mitigate those risks. Our guest is guest Rich Campagna, Senior... Read more »

    HN753: Getting to Know Cisco's Network Service Orchestrator (NSO)

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 14, 2024 68:37


    On today's episode, guest James Henderson joins the Packet Pushers to discuss Cisco’s Network Service Orchestrator (NSO). NSO’s role in network automation, its declarative management approach, and the challenges it presents are some of the things James shares with the hosts. They also cover operational requirements, deployment challenges, and performance considerations, in addition to discussing... Read more »

    HN752: How Digital Twins Enable Smarter Network Ops, Troubleshooting (Sponsored)

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 4, 2024 57:49


    Our topic today is digital twins. Sponsor Forward Networks offers software that creates a “mathematically accurate” copy of your network, be it on prem or in the cloud. We talk about what “mathematically accurate” actually means, and how a digital twin can support network operations including change control, network automation, visibility, and troubleshooting. We also... Read more »

    HN751: Top Tips for Building A CCIE-EI Lab

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 27, 2024 52:52


    The Packet Pushers and guest Mason Reimert discuss strategies he’s using to prepare for the Cisco CCIE Enterprise Infrastructure lab exam. Mason shares practical tips for hands-on labbing for both established and emerging technologies like SD-WAN and SD-Access, resource management, virtualization tools, and automation. He also highlights the importance of understanding APIs, data formats, and... Read more »

    HN750: Under the Hood Of Palo Alto Networks Prisma Access Browser (Sponsored)

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 20, 2024 64:45


    On today's Heavy Networking, we discuss enterprise browsers with sponsor Palo Alto Networks. Most end users do the majority of their work in the browser these days. At the same time, more threats are coming in via the Web and Web-based apps. Palo Alto Networks recently launched its Prisma Access browser, a Chromium-based browser designed... Read more »

    HN749: Expand Your Network Labs With Containerlab and Clabernetes

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 13, 2024 52:04


    On today's episode, we cover open source Clabernetes, a tool that allows you to run Containerlab on Kubernetes. Containerlab provides a CLI for orchestrating and managing container-based networking labs. It starts the containers, builds a virtual wiring between them to create lab topologies of your choice and manages the lab's lifecycle.  We discuss the answer... Read more »

    HN748: How AI and HPC Are Changing Data Center Networks

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 6, 2024 67:50


    On today's episode of Heavy Networking, Rob Sherwood joins us to discuss the impact that High Performance Computing (HPC)and artificial intelligence computing are having on data center network design. It's not just a story about leaf/spine architecture. That's the boring part. There's also power and cooling issues, massive bandwidth requirements, and changes in how we... Read more »

    HN747: Automate The Easy Things

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 30, 2024 57:47


    Our Heavy Networking guest today is Hans Driessens, and we sat down at AutoCon1 to talk through some of his network automation projects. Hans shares his journey from a service engineer to a consultant specializing in network automation. We discuss the evolution of programming languages, the importance of foundational programming skills, and the practicalities of... Read more »

    HN746: Going Deep on OSPF Route Filtering

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 26, 2024 48:20


    On today's episode we delve into OSPF filtering. That is, how to filter routes from a device's routing table in an OSPF environment. This is a tricky business, because OSPF requires an identical database on every device in an OSPF area. That means you can't stop announcing a route from one OSPF router because you... Read more »

    HN745: Using Abstractions in Automation

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 16, 2024 59:14


    Today's episode of Heavy Networking comes to you from AutoCon1 in Amsterdam, recorded live on premises. In today's network automation discussion, we cover abstraction layers with guest Jaakko Rautanen. Practically speaking, what are abstractions, and how do they help make your network automation project successful? We'll also discuss some of our guest's automation projects, how... Read more »

    HN744: How BackBox Helps You Mitigate CVEs for Network Devices (Sponsored)

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 9, 2024 44:10


    Today we explore a network automation use case for configuration compliance in the face of never-ending common vulnerabilities and exposures, or CVEs. If you can automate that compliance, you have a shot at keeping pace with the bots and attackers attempting to exploit those CVEs and breaching your network. Our guest is Rekha Shenoy, CEO... Read more »

    HN743: Leveraging AI for Network Automation at Scale (Sponsored)

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 2, 2024 49:01


    AI is making its way into network automation. Maybe the thought of a hallucinating ChatGPT getting its six-fingered hands on your network makes you want to run the other way. But the story of AI for IT operations is more nuanced than the hot takes we get about the confidently dumb results that Large Language... Read more »

    HN742: Designing a Real-World Hybrid Cloud Network

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 26, 2024 55:21


    On today's show we talk about designing a network to support hybrid cloud deployments. That is, building and operating a network to interconnect the Big Three US public clouds (GCP, AWS, and Azure) as well as on-prem infrastructure to support a variety of applications and workloads. The network design had to meet several requirements, including... Read more »

    HN741: History of Networking: How Bridging Saved Ethernet

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 12, 2024 47:59


    Ready to take a trip back to the 1980's and learn some networking history? We talk with Alan Kirby, who was there forty years ago when the first Ethernet bridge was created at Digital Equipment Corporation (DEC). He explains the story of why and how it came to be. We discuss how Ethernet compared to... Read more »

    HN740: IETF's Network Management Operations (NMOP) Working Group

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 28, 2024 47:36


    When you think of IETF, you probably just think of defining protocols, but its new NMOP working group is all about helping network operators identify issues and deploy solutions, including those that pop up around automation. Mahesh Jethanandani is an NMOP leader and joins the show today to tell us what they are working on... Read more »

    HN739: High Stakes Network Observability for High Frequency Trading

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 21, 2024 50:13


    High Frequency Trading in finance demands the utmost quality and speed from a network, making flawless observability a must. Our guest today is Radu Ionco from Jump Trading, and he tells us about how they built their own custom network observability platform, even creating a monitoring system for the monitoring system. We talk through streaming... Read more »

    HN738: Reducing Complexity With Fortinet's Unified SASE (Sponsored)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 14, 2024 49:52


    Fortinet's Unified SASE provides consistent security controls and policies both for traditional campuses and the hybrid workforce.. Nirav Shah joins us to explain how Fortinet is positioned to do this: a foundational software developed for 20 years, a network of over 140 POPs, a security lab with over 1,000 researchers, continuous ZTNA verification proxies, and... Read more »

    HN737: Greg Ferro: The Exit Interview

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 7, 2024 66:20


    Greg Ferro, co-founder of Packet Pushers, is signing off. After years of frustrating health issues, he's decided to fully step back from podcasting and industry analysis to take care of himself. After 14 years, today is his last appearance on Heavy Networking. In this parting episode, Greg shares his final dose of incisive insights and... Read more »

    HN736: Understanding VMware by Broadcom (Sponsored)

    Play Episode Listen Later May 31, 2024 62:24


    Today on Heavy Networking, sponsored by Broadcom, we talk about VMware's transition under Broadcom's ownership. The acquisition has led to big changes that rolled out very quickly, including how VMware sells products and services – subscription only licensing, bundles of products, a hard stop on sales of existing licenses, overhaul of license issuance, and more.... Read more »

    HN735: Managing OT Networks

    Play Episode Listen Later May 24, 2024 55:31


    The variety and number of OT devices continue to grow at such a pace that network engineers really need to think through how to manage them as part of their broader network. Dan Massameno joins the show to talk about how he's collaborating with his facilities department and using SD-Access to manage the OT virtual... Read more »

    HN734: Russ White Hour Part 2: Snowflakes and Network Automation

    Play Episode Listen Later May 17, 2024 49:18


    Welcome to the second part of our interview with friend of the podcast, Russ White. We start our conversation with a listener question about VXLAN/EVPN which acts as a springboard for what Russ really thinks about network engineering these days. He defends network snowflakes, championing their power in business use cases. He questions the merit... Read more »

    HN733: Russ White Hour: IS-IS vs OSPF and a Deep Dive into Ethernet Adapters

    Play Episode Listen Later May 10, 2024 47:52


    We turn the nerd meter up to eleven on today's episode with longtime friend of the show, Russ White. First we dive into how an Ethernet adapter knows when a link is lost, where Russ teaches us all about loss of carrier and OAM. He also gives us a tutorial on how the rest of... Read more »

    HN732: Juniper's PTX Platforms: 800GE and Double-Density 400GE for DC and WAN (Sponsored)

    Play Episode Listen Later May 3, 2024 39:23


    The future has arrived: 800 gig Ethernet is here. Amit Bhardwaj and Dmitry Shokarev from today's sponsor, Juniper Networks, join the show to tell us all about Juniper's 800 gig Ethernet and what we need to know as engineers: use cases, transition plans, fiber and power needs (a lot less than you'd think). We also... Read more »

    HN731: GraphQL: Open Source Query Language for APIs

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 26, 2024 34:53


    What if instead of sending multiple queries out to APIs and getting disparate data back, you could just send a single query and receive a single answer. That's exactly what GraphQL does for you. Rick Donato joins the show today to teach us about GraphQL and how it can help us on the path to... Read more »

    HN730: Retail, Healthcare, Manufacturing and More Transform Their Branches with Next-Gen SD-WAN and SASE (Sponsored)

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 19, 2024 47:33


    If you haven't made the leap from traditional wide area networking to SD-WAN, or perhaps you're thinking about adding security services to your SD-WAN infrastructure, this episode is for you. Rajesh Kari from Palo Alto Networks joins the show to share customer stories from the front lines of multi-branch businesses' networks. Industry verticals including retail,... Read more »

    HN729: Open Source to Closed

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 12, 2024 47:40


    With “The Cathedral and the Bazaar” as his guide, Srivats launched Ostinato, his open source project, in 2010. He needed an affordable network traffic generator at his day job, he was passionate enough to build one during his nights and weekends, and end users loved it– it has been downloaded hundreds of thousands of times.... Read more »

    HN728: How Drivenets Leverages Ethernet Fabrics For AI Networking (Sponsored)

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 5, 2024 47:48


    To run AI workloads, a network needs thousands of GPUs and those GPUs must operate in sync. If there is congestion or dropped frames, very expensive efforts could be delayed or disrupted. While there are advantages to using Ethernet for AI networking (including engineers well-trained in the protocol and a robust ecosystem), it wasn't designed... Read more »

    HN727: Kubernetes Networking Essentials

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 29, 2024 66:50


    Where there are containers, there is networking. Today we dig into the networking that underlies Kubernetes, the open source orchestration platform for container-based applications. Our guest Karim El Jamali takes us through the essential concepts: Nodes, pods, clusters, CNIs, virtual ethernet pairs, ingress controller, eBPF, and service meshes. As container-based applications grow in popularity, it's... Read more »

    HN726: From Automation to Orchestration for a FinTech Network (Sponsored)

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 22, 2024 48:24


    Fiserv is one of the largest payment processors in the world, handling 70 to 80% of all global financial transactions. Its network is critical to the business. The organization knew it needed network automation, but early attempts got some things wrong. On today's Heavy Networking we talk about how Fiserv worked through these challenges to... Read more »

    HN725: Standing up a DC Network Using Terraform

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 15, 2024 47:53


    Matt Horn built a data center network through automation, remotely. This is the future of network engineering. Matt shares how his team did it technically: Terraform, a little Ansible, leveraging pipelines, etc. But he also shares the processes and culture that made it happen: Management and peer buy-in, tight enforcement based on user access, and... Read more »

    HN724: How Packets Move Through a Network Device

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 8, 2024 58:52


    Today we metaphorically pop open the hood of switches and routers, taking a look at the mechanics of how they work. We cover the three states: configuration, operational, and forwarding. We talk RIB and FIB, along with CAM, TCAM, and MPLS. We also cover line rate, port-to-port latency, and buffers. Whether it's been awhile since... Read more »

    HN723: ‘It's like Legos': Developing a Network Automation Framework

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 1, 2024 43:30


    Right now, we have the building blocks for network automation, but we don't have end-to-end designs or complete systems. It's like having a bunch of Legos but no instructions for how to build your spaceship. Ryan Shaw, David Sinn, and their colleagues in the Network Automation Forum are tackling this problem. Their goal is to... Read more »

    HN722: Ivan Pepelnjak's Netlab Eliminates the Tedious Bits of Labbing

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 23, 2024 59:40


    One dark day, Ivan Pepelnjak stopped labbing. He just couldn't make himself yet again go through assigning addresses, building links, putting devices in place, setting up OSPF, BGP, VXLAN, EVPN, etc. before even being able to start whatever simulation or test he wanted to do. But from that darkness arose netlab. Ivan created netlab to... Read more »

    HN721: Goodbye Network Cowboys, Hello Total Network Operations

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 16, 2024 54:05


    The days of network cowboy heroism are over… or at least they need to be. It's time for network engineering to grow up and standardize how networks are built. Not only will this make life easier for all of us as we inherit networks when we move from company to company, but it's the only... Read more »

    HN720: What Yale Learned about RADIUS Load Balancing

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 9, 2024 45:03


    Yale's efforts to load-balance RADIUS servers is a case study in system design for resiliency. First, there was a lone, redundant PSN. Next, F5s load balancers entered the picture. Then the network team realized a feature in IOS-XE was the answer… and brought Cisco along the learning journey with them. Hear it all from the... Read more »

    HN719: Meet SuzieQ, The Network Observability Application

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 2, 2024 56:46


    Guest Dinesh Dutt introduces his newest creation, SuzieQ. It's a network observability platform application that has both a free, open source version and an enterprise version. Lightweight, fast, and platform-agnostic, SuzieQ's use cases include network documentation, troubleshooting, fabric-wide visibility, network refresh and redesign, low/no code validation, audits and compliance, and proactive health checks. Hosts Ethan... Read more »

    HN718: Prisma SASE Gets Clever With TCP For Better App And User Experiences (Sponsored)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 26, 2024 49:26


    Remote and hybrid work means network engineers have to grapple with lossy residential networks such as home wireless that your work-from-home folks are using to access company resources. Their Wi-Fi sucks, and so their use of corporate resources sucks. Sure, you've got them plumbed into a SASE fabric, but that doesn't fix their user experience... Read more »

    HN717: Network Source(s) Of Truth – A Roundtable Discussion

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 19, 2024 74:26


    On today's episode, we discuss networking sources of truth. That's right, sources of truth, because you're likely to have more than one depending on your environment and your point of view. On LinkedIn, Ethan quoted someone at the AutoCon0 conference who essentially said that the network itself shouldn't be used as a source of truth.... Read more »

    HN716: Design-Driven Network Automation And Assurance

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 12, 2024 48:17


    At AutoCon0 in November 2023, guest Jeremy Schulman delivered a talk from the main stage about delivering network assurance. If the term “network assurance” doesn't mean anything to you, think about how you prove after an install or a change that the network is doing what it's supposed to be doing. If you're doing it... Read more »

    HN715: Prescribing The Right Dose Of Automation For A Hospital Network

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 5, 2024 45:46


    At NewYork-Presbyterian Hospital, patients are the priority. That focus on patient care extends to the hospital’s campus network, data center, wireless network, and SD-WAN. These networks are instrumental for delivering medical applications and connecting medical devices. On today’s Heavy Networking, we talk with network architects and engineers at NewYork-Presbyterian about their use of automation to... Read more »

    HN715: Prescribing The Right Dose Of Automation For A Hospital Network

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 5, 2024 45:46


    We talk with network architects and engineers at NewYork-Presbyterian Hospital about their automation strategy for mission-critical networks that support patient care. We explore the automation progress they've made, long-term goals, technical and cultural challenges, what they'd like to see from vendors, and more. The post HN715: Prescribing The Right Dose Of Automation For A Hospital Network appeared first on Packet Pushers.

    HN714: Building The Branch Of The Future With SASE Powered By AI (Sponsored)

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 15, 2023 42:56


    SD-WAN is evolving to encompass more features and capabilities around security, application performance, network visibility, and more. On today’s Heavy Networking, sponsored by Palo Alto Networks, we look at how SD-WAN has transformed from a simple network connectivity solution to a comprehensive networking and security system. We discuss the limitations of legacy branch routers and... Read more »

    HN714: Building The Branch Of The Future With SASE Powered By AI (Sponsored)

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 15, 2023 42:56


    SD-WAN and SASE are evolving to encompass more features and capabilities around security, application performance, network visibility, and more. On today's Heavy Networking, sponsored by Palo Alto Networks, we look at how AI is transforming SD-WAN and SASE to help build the branch of the future. The post HN714: Building The Branch Of The Future With SASE Powered By AI (Sponsored) appeared first on Packet Pushers.

    HN713: Network Automation: Where Are We, And Where Can We Go?

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 8, 2023 55:00


    Welcome to Heavy Networking! On today's show we've got a roundtable conversation on the state of automation in the networking industry. This show was inspired by the recent AutoCon conference, which is a new conference focused specifically on network automation. Ethan Banks and I both attended, as did two our guests, and we're going share... Read more »

    HN713: Network Automation: Where Are We, And Where Can We Go?

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 8, 2023 55:00


    Today's show is roundtable conversation on the state of automation in the networking industry. We discuss takeaways from the recent AutoCon event on network automation, and get into issues such as sources of truth and the role of abstractions in automation. We also talk about the learning, cultural, and business challenges of network automation--and how to get beyond them. The post HN713: Network Automation: Where Are We, And Where Can We Go? appeared first on Packet Pushers.

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