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Talking Church is a podcast hosted by River Valley Network that discusses trends in the church and culture. In each episode, you will learn from ministry leaders on a variety of subjects, develop your leadership skills and break new growth barriers!

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    • Apr 29, 2025 LATEST EPISODE
    • every other week NEW EPISODES
    • 41m AVG DURATION
    • 166 EPISODES


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    Gabe Finochio & Jon Rush | The Dangers of People Pleasing

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 29, 2025 107:31


    Logan is joined by Gabriel Finochio and Jon Rush to discuss the tension between truth and likability in Christian leadership, exploring how boldness in speaking truth often clashes with the desire to be accepted. They candidly discuss topics like the baptism of the Holy Spirit, cultural compromise in the church, and how modern Christians engage with theology—online and in-person. Through personal stories, theological insights, and humor, the conversation challenges listeners to consider where and how Christians should unapologetically address tough topics.

    Dr. Allen Tennison & Martha Tennison | Preparing for The Worst Day of Your Life

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 15, 2025 61:24


    Dr. Allen Tennison and Reverend Martha Tennison join Logan to recount a heartbreaking chapter in their church's history. In 1988, a devastating bus accident claimed 27 lives—24 of them were youth group students. Reverend Martha reflects on how she and her late husband, Don, navigated the unimaginable loss with unwavering strength, wisdom, and compassion. Dr. Allen shares his personal perspective as a survivor of the accident and processing this magnitude of loss as a teen.

    Best Marriage Advice from Henry & Alex Seeley @ Belonging Co.

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 1, 2025 53:31


    We hit the road in Nashville this week! Join us in this insightful episode as Pastors Henry and Alex Seeley candidly share the ups, downs, and their favorite moments from nearly three decades of marriage and ministry together. They reveal key insights every couple—whether in ministry or not—can learn from. If you're looking to deepen your relationships and lead with purpose, this podcast is one you won't want to miss!--To learn more about Pastor Alex and Henry you can visit their YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/c/TheBelongingCo or their website at https://thebelonging.co/

    10 Reasons Why People Resist Change

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 18, 2025 57:14


    Change is a constant in ministry, but it's not always easy to lead. Keith Peterson joins Logan to explore why people in your congregation and leadership teams resist change—from the fear of losing control and facing uncertainty to concerns about competence and the weight of past experiences. With practical insights and faith-centered perspectives, this podcast equips church leaders to navigate the challenges of change with wisdom, empathy, and confidence.

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    The Most Significant Discovery Since the Dead Sea Scrolls

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 4, 2025 40:10


    The Megiddo Mosaic, discovered in an Israeli prison, is the oldest known Christian church floor, dating back 1,800 years. Built during a time of persecution, it boldly proclaims "Jesus is Lord" instead of "Caesar is Lord." In Washington, D.C., Logan spoke with Dr. Bobby Duke from the Museum of the Bible about its history, the logistics of its transport, and its significance as the most important Christian discovery since the Dead Sea Scrolls.

    Better Storytelling, Book Writing Hacks, and Humble Success

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 18, 2025 39:00


    In this episode of Talking Church, we sit down with Mark Batterson, one of the most influential pastors and bestselling authors in the world. From writing books that have impacted millions to leading with vision and faith, Mark shares his insights on storytelling, discipline, and the power of humility in leadership.

    Secrets To Avoid Ministry Burnout | Dr. Don Lichi

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 4, 2025 49:59


    In this episode of Talking Church, Logan sits down with Dr. Don Lichi, a licensed psychologist and ministry leader, to tackle one of the biggest threats facing pastors and ministry leaders today. Together they explore practical steps to protect your heart, strengthen your faith, and build healthy rhythms that sustain long-term ministry.

    An Honest Podcast Update

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 28, 2025 3:54


    Pastor Logan shares an honest podcast update about the future of Talking Church. 

    Meet One of My Heroes: Bob Hoskins

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 21, 2025 77:00


    Bob Hoskins, a legendary figure in global ministry, has spent over 80 years advancing the gospel with bold faith and unwavering commitment. Known for spearheading innovative projects like the Bible App for Kids, the most downloaded children's app globally, his work exemplifies a passion for measurable impact and meaningful ministry. With a fearless heart and a spirit-led approach, Bob continues to inspire leaders and ignite movements worldwide.

    Grammy Winning Producer's Advice to Christian Musicians

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 14, 2025 43:30


    Episode 155: In this episode, we are joined by legendary music producer Jerry Wonda. From his upbringing in Haiti to working with iconic artists like Shakira, Whitney Houston, and Justin Bieber, Jerry shares how faith, creativity, and perseverance shaped his path. He shares how his church upbringing influenced his music and his unique approach to producing, and his advice for combining passion with purpose.

    10 Things That Great Leaders Do

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 7, 2025 45:30


    Episode 154: In this episode, Logan is joined by Pastor Rob Ketterling as they dive into the top 10 habits and practices that set great leaders apart. No matter where you're leading, these principles can impact the way you inspire and guide others. Listen as they dissect how these traits align with Biblical wisdom and explore what they mean for those called to lead with purpose and integrity.

    The Best Moments of 2024

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 31, 2024 18:06


    Episode 153: Join Logan as he recaps some of the best moments on Talking Church in 2024! We are so grateful you are one of our listeners, and cannot wait for all that's ahead in 2025.

    A Prayer for Your Christmas & New Year

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 24, 2024 2:33


    As we close out the year, I wanted to say a prayer for you, your church an your family as you work hard to minster through the final stretch of the year. Merry Christmas & Happy New Year from Logan and the Talking Church team! 

    Why I Became a Pastor: Early Stories from Pastor Rob Ketterling

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 17, 2024 40:30


    Episode 152: Pastor Rob joins Pastor Logan this week to share pivotal moments from his early life that shaped his ministry and worldview. From transformative mission trips to Brazil and India, to navigating personal revelations and college experiences, Pastor Rob takes us on a journey of faith, growth, and adventure. He reflects on the impact of early mentorship, cross-cultural ministry, and a commitment to accountability and resilience in leadership.

    5 Must Have Meetings to Plan a Big Event

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 12, 2024 52:38


    Episode 151: In this episode, Pastor Logan is joined by River Valley Church's Annie Judd (Art Director) and Maddie Bennett (Event Project Management), to discuss essential meetings for effective event planning. They emphasize the importance of collaboration, creativity, and clear communication among team members. They cover several topics, which include the significance of vision meetings, brainstorming sessions, the process of pitching creative ideas, service planning, as well as provide structure and offer insights for debriefing after events to ensure continuous improvement and foster a culture of excellence.Click the link below for the PDF resource for this episode!https://www.rivervalleynetwork.org/talking-church/

    Lessons From the Biggest Church You've Never Heard Of

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 3, 2024 37:25


    Ep 150: In this weeks episode of Talking Church, Pastor Logan is joined by Pastor Greg Reade and Pastor Dave Simiele, leaders at Christ Fellowship Church, to discuss their experiences and insights on church growth, the importance of humility and integrity in leadership, and the challenges of managing a multi-campus church. One of the biggest churches in America with over 25,000 in attendance, they have managed the tensions at every level and will share insights they've learned from their decades on the team.

    Grow Your Church in 2025. No Frills, More Presence | Michael Koulianos

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 26, 2024 52:47


    Episode 149: Michael Koulianos joins Pastor Logan and shares the journey of founding Jesus Image, emphasizing the importance of worship and the presence of God in ministry, and how to foster a sustainable church environment that prioritizes spiritual growth and community engagement.  He also explores the current search for authenticity among young people in the church, the challenges of maintaining church culture amidst changing societal values, and the balance between ministry and family life.

    Moving From Creative Person to Creative Leader

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 19, 2024 43:28


    Episode 148: Kirk Graham and Aaron Johnson join Logan to share how they grew from being a creative person to becoming a creative leader.  They give insight on the need for organizational skills, the value of training up new creatives and how to navigate making decisions that will help the team mature. 

    Avoiding Church Rivalry | Clarence St. John

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 12, 2024 44:44


    Episode 147: In this enlightening conversation, Pastor Clarence shares his extensive experience in pastoral leadership, discussing the importance of unity among churches, navigating the challenges of interim pastorship, and the need for adaptation in ministry amidst cultural changes. He reflects on sustaining through difficult times, raising the next generation of pastors, and the significance of personal spiritual discipline. 

    Responding to "Purity Culture"

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 5, 2024 53:51


    Episode 146: Phylicia Masonheimer joins the podcast to respond to the difficulties of holiness and purity culture.  Phylicia shares her personal struggle with shame and erotica and how she overcame that by the power of the Holy Spirit.  Phylicia has a passion for helping women learn the Bible and recover from the trauma of their past. 

    Jon Rush | Using Video Games to Reach The Next Generation

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 29, 2024 44:46


    Episode 145: Jon Rush joins Logan in discussing the intersection of video gaming and ministry. Jon emphasizing its cultural relevance, the potential of video games as a tool for evangelism and the dangers and opportunities of virtual reality becoming more and more real.

    They Both Had Abortions, Now They're Fighting To Stop Them

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 24, 2024 53:39


    Episode 144: Aniela Chis and Jeff Bradford from Human Coalition join Logan to discuss overcoming the trauma of abortion and how they are helping resource women to choose life, regardless of their circumstances.

    Can Pastors Endorse a Candidate? (w/ Attorney Ryan Bangert)

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 22, 2024 34:11


    Episode 143: Logan and Ryan discuss the Johnson Amendment, the importance and challenges pastors face in communicating political issues, the protection of First Amendment rights, and do their best to answer the question: "Can pastors endorse a political candidate?"

    How to Handle Criticism in Ministry w/ Russell Johnson

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 15, 2024 52:09


    Episode 142: Logan sits down with Pastor Russell Johnson from The Pursuit NW share how he handles criticism, his transition from politics to pastor, and what excited him about the next generation.

    Make Theology Great Again | Dr. Joel Muddamalle

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 8, 2024 47:39


    Episode 141: Dr. Joel Muddamalle joins Logan to talk about building our theology framework, working with multiple denominations and how we we can apply theology in our daily life.

    A Stroke Survivor's Message of Hope | Katherine Wolf

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 1, 2024 33:55


    Episode 140: Katherine Wolf join Logan to share her miraculous story of surviving a stroke, and how she had to relearn to eat, speak and walk. She encourages listeners that despite your circumstances, suffering may be a greater gift than you realize.

    Can Christians Shape the Culture? Ebenezer Endiryas

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 24, 2024 38:41


    Episode 139: This week Logan is joined by Pastor Ebenezer Endiryas, host of "Shaping The Culture" podcast, to discuss growing up in an Ethiopian church, being a single pastor, church planting and his history in podcasting

    Am I Trying too Hard? Striving vs. Seizing | Rob Ketterling

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 17, 2024 43:02


    Talking Church Episode 138: On this week's episode Logan is joined by Pastor Rob Ketterling. They discuss the tension between striving for success and maintaining humility, the importance of mentorship, and the dangers of entitlement.

    Redefining Identity: A Pastor's Journey from Church Leader to Faithful Servant

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 10, 2024 53:39


    Talking Church Episode 137: On this week's episode of the podcast Logan is joined by Thomas Pannikar. Thomas shares his journey of stepping out of full time ministry and going into the marketplace.They discuss identity struggles faced by pastors and the challenges of balancing their roles as spiritual leaders with their personal sense of self. They emphasize the importance of separating one's identity from their job title and focusing on the broader calling of serving God and others.

    How to Lead at an Executive Level

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 3, 2024 67:51


    Talking Church Episode 136: This week's episode of the podcast is a breakout session from River Valley Conference. Executive Pastors Kirk Graham and Chris Book sit down with CFO Steve Chaney to talk about how to lead at an executive level. They discuss the church's operational and strategic framework, focusing on how the leadership team interacts and supports Pastor Rob's global mission.

    The Theology of Work and Rest

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 27, 2024 61:25


    Gen Alpha is Here

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 20, 2024 58:26


    Talking Church Episode 134: This week's episode is Pastor Terry Parkman's breakout session from River Valley Conference. He emphasizes the need to adapt ministry and educational models to engage effectively with Gen Alpha, who are growing up in a world dominated by rapid technological advancements.

    Searching for Belonging: How Faith Filled the Void

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 13, 2024 44:50


    Talking Church Episode 133: On this week's episode Logan is joined by Pastor Kirby Sato. Pastor Kirby and Logan discuss Kirby's upbringing and how the Lord transformed his life. Kirby talks about a divine encounter with Christians who were worshipping on the streets that changed his life.

    Battling the Hardest Thing in Leadership: Self-Awareness

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 6, 2024 41:55


    Talking Church Episode 132: On this week's episode of the podcast Logan is joined by Jackie Brewster. They discuss the importance of self-awareness and understanding one's behavioral patterns. They talk about how behaviors are not intrinsic to who we are but are learned responses that can be changed.

    Why We Still Tithe Today:  Balancing Tradition and Generosity

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 30, 2024 62:52


    Talking Church Episode 131: On this week's episode Logan is joined by Dr. Allen Tennison. They discuss how modern churches manage tithing, the importance of transparency in church finances, and the role of the church in supporting its members and the broader community. 

    Maintaining Pure Worship in a Performance-Driven Culture | Jonsal & Jenna Barrientes from Elevation Worship

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 23, 2024 43:43


    Talking Church Episode 130: On this week's episode Logan was joined by Jonsal and Jenna Barrientes from Elevation Worship live at River Valley Conference. They discuss the importance of flexibility, collaboration, and authenticity when it comes to leading worship.

    How Christians Can Prepare for the Election - Samuel Rodriguez, Allen Tennison, Rob Ketterling

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 16, 2024 59:29


    Logan was joined by Pastor Rob Ketterling, Pastor Samuel Rodriguez, and Dr. Allen Tennison for this episode that was filmed live at River Valley Conference on Tuesday, July 9. They discuss how we as the church can prepare for the upcoming election and be the salt and light to this world. Even though this was filmed before the tragic events unfolded this past weekend, we felt the words shared in this episode remain true. Let's pray for the families of the victims involved and pray that these events can unite our nation more than they will divide.

    A Former Addict's Response to the Drug Crisis

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 10, 2024 30:18


    Talking Church Episode 128: On this week's episode of the podcast Logan was joined by the CEO of Minnesota Adult & Teen Challenge. The rehab center is the largest Teen Challenge program in the world. It is also the largest treatment facility in Minnesota. They discuss the drug crisis that is ongoing today. 

    Overcoming Moral Failures: Remaining Accountable & Navigating Hypocrisy

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 2, 2024 38:22


    Talking Church Episode 127: Pastor Rob joins Logan on this week's episode of the podcast. They discuss accountability with your spouse, family, elders, staff members, your congregation, and more. We hope you feel inspired, informed, and ready to live with accountability in place!

    Spontaneity vs. Strategy: The Art of Decision-Making in Leadership

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 25, 2024 38:57


    Talking Church Episode 126: On this week's episode Logan is joined by Pastor Kirk Graham and Pastor Terry Parkman. They dive into the dynamic balance between visionary planning and spontaneous action in ministry. They discuss the importance of strategic foresight, the role of faith in decision-making, and the practical aspects of launching new initiatives.

    This One Thing Created Breakthrough in Our Kid's Ministry

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 18, 2024 39:00


    Talking Church Episode 125: On this week's episode Logan is joined by Pastors Drew Snead and Katie LeBlanc. They discuss innovative strategies to engage parents in their children's spiritual journey. Katie and Drew share practical methods that help bridge the gap between church and home, ensuring parents are equipped to lead and nurture their children's faith.

    A Former Transgender Responds to LGBTQ

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 11, 2024 103:59


    Talking Church Episode 124: On this week's episode Logan is joined by Dr. Linda Seiler who is the executive director of ReStory Ministries. Linda felt like a boy trapped in a female's body growing up and she discusses the transformation within her life because of Christian discipleship. 

    Can Christians Have a Voice in American Politics?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 4, 2024 40:51


    Talking Church Episode 123: Logan is joined by Pastor Rob on this week's episode. They talk about the challenges of maintaining religious freedom in today's culture and the balance between faith and political involvement. 

    How This Pastor Went From 20k Followers to 200k+ Followers

    Play Episode Listen Later May 28, 2024 50:53


    Talking Church Episode 122: On this week's episode, Logan is joined by Pastor Aaron Burke and his assistant Brandon Martinelli from Radiant Church. They talk about the strategy that has gone into growing Pastor Aaron's social platform over the last year.

    Rob Ketterling | Keep Your Inheritance (ARC Conf. 2024)

    Play Episode Listen Later May 21, 2024 38:58


    This week's episode of the podcast is a message from Pastor Rob that he preached at this year's ARC Conference. “You can go as fast as you were created as long as you keep your inheritance with you!”

    Swallow Your Pride, It's Just A Title (How to Serve Your Leader Well)

    Play Episode Listen Later May 14, 2024 34:47


    Talking Church Episode 120: On this week's episode Logan is joined by Pastor Daralee Utecht. They discuss the invaluable lessons learned while serving in various capacities within ministry, emphasizing the importance of humility, service, and recognizing God's calling in every season.

    Does it Matter How Worship Leaders Dress?

    Play Episode Listen Later May 7, 2024 45:39


    Talking Church Episode 119: Logan is joined by Worship Pastors Ryan Williams and Canaan Baca on this week's episode. They discuss writing worship music, navigating the tension between authenticity and performance, and if it matters how worship leaders dress. 

    When Pastors Don't Get Along

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 30, 2024 62:59


    Talking Church Episode 118: On this week's episode of the podcast Logan is joined by Pastor Rob and Joe Anderson. Joe and Pastor Rob open up about their tumultuous journey from estrangement to reconciliation. They discuss the power of forgiveness and the beauty of restored friendships.

    Why Gen Z Doesn't Care What You Think

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 23, 2024 41:47


    Episode 117: Pastor & Evangelist Micah MacDonald sits down with Logan to talk about Generation Z and the importance of understanding who is coming and what is coming as a leader. Pastor Micah brings some startling statistics to the conversation. 

    Nathan Finochio - We Exist to Worship God

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 16, 2024 47:00


    Talking Church Episode 116: This week's episode of the podcast is a rewind to last year's River Valley Conference. Nathan Finochio talks about why we exist as a church. We exist to worship God! If you want to watch the video from River Valley Conference you can find it on YouTube!

    4 Ways Our Church Avoided DEI Pitfalls

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 9, 2024 64:59


    Talking Church Episode 115: Logan is joined by Alisha Gelhar and Portia Allen, who are the founders of Imago Dei on this week's episode. They discuss the ways that River Valley Church has avoided DEI pitfalls."You might not always know what to do, but there is always a way forward!"

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