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An exploration of financial independence and taking the conversation to the next level. The show features a panel discussion with top influencers in the financial independence space. Guests weigh in on the questions that don't have clear answers to help you refine your path to Financial Independence…

Paul David Thompson and DocG


    • Mar 2, 2026 LATEST EPISODE
    • weekdays NEW EPISODES
    • 55m AVG DURATION
    • 729 EPISODES

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    The What's Up Next Podcast is a must-listen for anyone interested in personal finance and lifestyle design. Hosted by DocG, this podcast explores the intersection between money, mindset, and life choices. Since discovering this podcast, I have been captivated by the insightful conversations and diverse perspectives shared by the guests.

    One of the best aspects of The What's Up Next Podcast is the range of topics covered. From financial independence and investing to career transitions and entrepreneurship, each episode delves into a different aspect of personal finance and lifestyle. The guests on the show are experts in their respective fields, offering valuable insights and practical advice to listeners. DocG's thoughtful questions and genuine curiosity make for engaging conversations that leave you with new perspectives on money and life.

    What sets The What's Up Next Podcast apart is DocG's ability to bring out the humanity behind personal finance decisions. He goes beyond numbers and spreadsheets to explore how our values, emotions, and experiences shape our relationship with money. This podcast challenges conventional wisdom and encourages listeners to question their own beliefs about wealth, success, and happiness.

    While there are no major flaws with The What's Up Next Podcast, one minor criticism is that some episodes may feel repetitive or overlapping in terms of themes discussed. However, this can be attributed to the nature of personal finance topics which often intersect with each other. Additionally, occasional technical glitches or audio quality issues can be distracting but are infrequent occurrences.

    In conclusion, The What's Up Next Podcast is a refreshing take on personal finance podcasts that goes beyond surface-level discussions about money. DocG's genuine curiosity as a host coupled with his ability to bring out thought-provoking insights from his guests makes each episode an enriching experience for listeners. Whether you're a financial independence enthusiast or simply seeking inspiration for living a fulfilling life, this podcast offers valuable perspectives and practical wisdom worth tuning into regularly.



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    712. Will Kids Break the Bank? w/ Bryce Leung and Kristy Shen

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 2, 2026 51:18


    Financial independence looks difference when you have kids. Yet, it can become a masterclass for how managing your finances well looks. We join Kristy Shen and Bryce Leung as they discuss their new book: Parent Like a Millionaire. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    711. The Dire Consequences of Delaying Retirement w/ Jesse Cramer

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 26, 2026 52:12


    Jesse Cramer from The Best Interest joins us today to talk about a study that has been circulating in financial independence circles that suggests that delaying retirement can be deadly. We breakdown the data and how not to fall for misinformation in the financial space. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    710. Small Salary...Big Wealth w/ Andrew Giancola

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 23, 2026 51:50


    Andrew Giancola is the host of The Personal Finance Podcast. Today, we discuss how to build wealth on a small salary. While this may not be you...it might be your child, friend, or family member. Do you truly need a high income to make it today? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    709. How to Master Lifestyle Creep w/ Joel Larsgaard and Matt Altmix (Rewind)

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 19, 2026 65:14


    There are so many reasons to spend more money today than you did five years ago. Whether gross economic inflation vs personal lifestyle inflation, it's important to keep track of your budget. On this rewind episode, Joel and Matt from ⁠How to Money⁠ join us as we delve into spending growth. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    708. Are You a Financial Mutant (Rewind)? w/ Brian Preston

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 16, 2026 56:26


    In this rewind episode we talk with Brian Preston who is the author of ⁠Millionaire Mission⁠ and cohost of The Money Guy Show. We discuss the financial order of operations. How do you maximize your ability to both spend today as well as to save for tomorrow. Brian talks about what has been successful for his clients through decades of financial planning. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    707. Mailbag Episode

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 12, 2026 32:14


    In this mailbag episode, I address some of the more controversial feedback i have gotten from some select episodes. I welcome your criticism. Write me at docg@diversefi.com. Agree or disagree, this is what our community has had to say. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    706. Overcoming Our AI Overlords w/ Darrow Kirkpatrick

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 9, 2026 48:47


    Darrow Kirkpatrick is best known to the personal finance community through his work on the amazing blog, Can I Retire Yet? But he is also an accomplished engineer and has been studying artificial intelligence since the 1980's. Today, he shares his wisdom. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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    705. Ten Things About Black Swan Events

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 5, 2026 32:27


    Do you spend a lot of time worrying about financial catastrophe? Are you worried that no matter how hard you try, world events could bankrupt you? If that's the case, you are concerned with black swan events. This episode attempts to describe why black swan events will likely not thwart you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    704. Can I Say That? w/ Chloe Carmichael

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 2, 2026 64:30


    I am joined by author Dr. Chloe Carmichael to talk first amendment rights, cancel culture, and the power of words. We discuss how self censorship can have untoward effects. Dr. Carmichael's book is Can I Say That? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    703. What's the Point of FIRE? (Community Episode)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 29, 2026 62:24


    In this community episode, Roger and I talk about whether one should retire early or not. Roger is a lawyer and enjoys work but has contemplated whether he should leave his job since reaching financial independence. He is skeptical. Hear why. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    702. Try. Fail. Learn w/ Lorraine Marchand

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 26, 2026 55:26


    What are the biggest myths about innovation? Lorraine has been teaching about innovation for decades in both academics and corporate America. Her recent book is No Fear, No Failure. Are you an innovator? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    701. Ten Things About Spending

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 22, 2026 32:01


    In this solo episode we talk spending. Will it make you happy? There is a continuum when it comes to spending and understanding it will help you make better decisions. Find out how. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    700. Neurogiving w/ Cherian Koshy

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 19, 2026 51:02


    We discuss with Cherian Koshy neurogiving. This is the study of how neuroscience interacts charitable causes. The conversation, however, extends to how we sell oursleves and our causes in general. We also chat about storytelling. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    699. Ten Steps to a Happier Life

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 15, 2026 34:14


    In this ten steps episode, we revisit happiness. Not as much as a concept, but as a guide on how to have more of it. This is just my opinion. I am not your coach or therapist. But, these steps have helped me a lot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    698. Happiness is a Habit with Monique Rhodes

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 12, 2026 52:12


    What is happiness and how do we pursue it? You all have heard me talk about this topic ad nauseam, I thought you might want to hear from someone else. Today we talk to Monique Rhodes--happiness expert and coach. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    Ten Things About CoastFI (Solo)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 8, 2026 32:06


    In this solo episode, we discuss the positives and negatives of CoastFI. Don't know what CoastFI is? It might just be the most reasonable way to reach financial independence. Take a listen and hear why! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    696. Family First Finance w/ Andy Hill

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 5, 2026 54:16


    Andy Hill was rushing towards financial independence as fast as possible when he hit a wall. His wife was unhappy, he was burning out at work, and his kids were growing up. Listen to hear how he found a better way. His book is Own Your Time. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    695. Ten Things About Spending Down

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 1, 2026 35:35


    In this solo episode I talk about the art of spending down. If we all successfully earn and invest, at some point we will actually have to live off these investments. Sounds great...but maybe it is more complicated than you think! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    694. Not Smart Enough to be Afraid w/ Pro Golfer Jay Delsing

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 29, 2025 63:25


    We are joined by Jay Delsing to discuss growing up everything golf. From success on the PGA tour to getting punched in the face, we chat about having what it takes. His recent book, You Wouldn't Believe Me if I Told You. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    693. 2025: That's a Wrap!

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 25, 2025 31:10


    We close 2025 with a community oriented episode. We will discuss the three biggest, but maybe quietist, stories of the year. In the second half, I tackle two community questions about previous episodes. Thanks for listening and Happy Holidays! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    692. Is The Automatic Millionaire Still Relevant?

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 22, 2025 57:14


    We welcome David Bach to discuss the principals he set out over twenty years ago in his groundbreaking first book, The Automatic Millionaire. We cover such diverse issues as the Latte Factor and even Social Security. The updated version of The Automatic Millionaire is available everywhere. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    691. Financial Literacy For All w/ John hope Bryant (Rewind)

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 18, 2025 53:37


    In this rewind episode we chat with John Hope Bryant, the founder of Operation Hope, about his book Financial Literacy for All. We discuss about the problems of "bad capitalism" and how to bring everyone, no matter what color, creed, or gender, the badly needed financial education that is lacking in many communities. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    690. Eleven Bad Money Hacks That Waste Your Time and Energy w/ Andrew Giancola (Rewind)

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 15, 2025 54:50


    In this illuminating rewind episode, join Andrew Giancola and I as we unravel the intricacies of eleven commonly misunderstood money hacks. Together, we explore how individuals aiming to cut costs might unwittingly be squandering their hard-earned cash. Gain valuable insights into financial pitfalls, debunk misconceptions, and discover practical strategies for optimizing your money management in this eye-opening conversation. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    689. Ten Things About Contrary Thinking (Solo)

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 11, 2025 32:24


    In this episode we chat about the art of contrarianism. Are you a contrary thinker? If so, does it serve you? Ten things about the good, bad, and ugly about being a contrarian. Do you agree? Write me at docg@diversefi.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    688. Forget Index and Chill with Bigger Pockets Money

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 8, 2025 53:42


    We are joined by Scott Trench and Mindy Jensen from BiggerPockets Money for this live mastermind meeting. We discuss real estate, the middle class wealth trap, and safe withdrawal rates. Lastly. mastermind members ask questions and get surprising answers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    687. Ten Things About Happiness (Solo)

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 4, 2025 32:20


    In this solo episode, I talk ten things about happiness. Although the happiness code is looked as a mystery, I believe these ten things will make the concept more tangible. What is happiness to you? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    686. Your Thoughts Lie to You w/ Lybi Ma

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 1, 2025 52:41


    Lybi Ma is an editor of the famed Psychology Today website. She has recently written a book called How To Be Less Miserable. In this fascinating conversation we talk about how our minds lie to us and often lead us astray from happiness. Do we try to be more happy or just less miserable? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    685. Can ChatGPT Help Me Retire? (Community Episode)

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 27, 2025 48:36


    In this community episode, we discuss the role of AI in planning your retirement. Can ChatGPT provide us with the answers? Also, how early should we start planning for retirement day? We are joined by Bill Yount from The Catching Up to FI Podcast and community member SuzyB. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    684. A Human First Retirement w/ Dan Haylett

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 24, 2025 54:19


    We chat with dan Haylett about what it means to plan a human first retirement. Too often, we get the math right but the psychology wrong. How do we have a happy retirement? Dan's new book: The Retirement You Didn't See Coming. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    683. Ten Things About Investing (Solo)

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 20, 2025 33:03


    In this ten things episode I talk investing. Investing, in general, is a lot easier than i think we make it out to be. Today, we focus on paper assets and I bring up ten key points about dealing with the stock market. Am I right? Let me know at docg@diversefi.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    682. The Retirement Leap of Faith w/ Jeremy Keil

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 17, 2025 50:58


    No matter how you look at it, retirement ends up being a big leap of faith. In this episode I talk with financial planner Jeremy Keil about all things retirement. How do you know when the time is right and how to plan accordingly? His book is titled Retire Today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    681. Recent Criticism (Solo)

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 13, 2025 33:24


    In this episode I discuss a spate of negative Apple reviews about the podcast. I thought that listeners might want to hear a discussion about what and how I make the Earn & Invest. Why advertisements? We cover a few other objections brought up by the public. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    680. Should You Choose Passion or Money w/ Bill Keenan and Alfredo Barrios Jr.

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 10, 2025 49:07


    Should you choose passion or money when it comes to your career? I discuss the upcoming movie Bull Run with creators Bill Keenan and Alfredo Barrios Jr. The story follows a junior investment banker and the hijinks that uncover a deeper question about how we work. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    679. Ten Things About Health

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 6, 2025 32:16


    In this ten things episode, I expound on something that I discuss a lot outside of the podcast. Longevity influencers abound and they are pedaling all sorts of advice about how to be healthy. In many ways, I think they are wrong. This is why. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    678. The Problem With Financial Caregiving w/ Beth Pinsker

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 3, 2025 54:05


    Do you have parents or loved ones that you feel responsible for? Managing the finances of a parent or other person as they are getting older and dealing with disease and mortality is difficult. Today we talk about how you can run afoul and what to do about it with Beth Pinsker, author of My Mother's Money. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    677. Abundance (Community Episode)

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 30, 2025 26:35


    This live podcast was recorded at the Wealth With Purpose Mastermind this past weekend in Chicago, Illinois. Participants were asked two questions and their answers were recorded. This is your community episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    676. Ten Things About Masterminds (Solo)

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 27, 2025 32:28


    Are you a part of a mastermind? If not, you may wonder what one is about and what we do in them. In this episode, I explore why masterminds can benefit you. Here is ten things about why I think they are important. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    675. Ten Things About Taxes (Solo)

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 23, 2025 31:43


    In this ten things episode we talk taxes. While my view may not match everyone's., I feel like we radically overthink the concept. Listen as i set the record straight. Send all comments to docg@diversefi.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    674. Are We Roth Crazy? w/ Sean Mullaney

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 20, 2025 51:29


    Are we roth crazy? Sean Mullaney and I talk about common misconceptions when it comes to tax planning. Not only whether we should be doing Roth conversions but also the future of taxation in America. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    673. Ten Things About Disapointment (Solo)

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 16, 2025 31:38


    This solo episode is following up on our interview with Ilana Golan from the Leap Academy. Ilana faced dissapointment. So will you. Let's chat ten things about dissapointment. Do you agree? Let me know: docg@diversefi.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    672. How to Build a Portfolio Career w/ Ilana Golan

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 13, 2025 49:58


    Ilana Golan is the creator of Leap Academy where she helps people develop portfolio careers. What is a portfolio career and how do we develop it with the right amount of AQ? Listen to this broadranging converssation about the future of careers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    671. Rewind: Fifteen Money Tips Regardless of net Worth w/ Shannah Game

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 9, 2025 57:27


    While personal finance is personal, there are some universal money truths. In This Rewind episode we talk with Shannah Game from ⁠Everyone's Talkin' Money ⁠about her fifteen wise money tips. She asked over one hundred friends and experts and in this episode we discuss what she found. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    670. Decoding Social Security w/ Mary Beth Franklin (Rewind)

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 6, 2025 61:43


    In this rewind episode of the Earn & Invest podcast we discuss the often-neglected topic of Social Security, with Mary Beth Franklin, a seasoned retirement expert, unraveling the complexities and dispelling common misconceptions. With over 40 years of financial journalism experience, Franklin provides a comprehensive Social Security 101, highlighting its importance in retirement planning and addressing the risks associated with both assuming its non-existence and overlooking its impact on financial security. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    669. Live from Bali: Should I Retire?

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 2, 2025 48:01


    This is a live podcast episode at the FI Freedom Retreat in Bali, Indonesia. I am joinded by Jackie Cummings-Koski from the Catching Up To FI Podcast. Listen in as our conference attendees tell their stories. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    668. Positive Intelligence/Negative thoughts w/ Shirzad Chamine

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 29, 2025 50:11


    Shirzad Chamine is the author of New York Time's Bestseeling book, Positive Intelligence. We chat about how mindset effects our ability to get things done both personally as well as in organizations. How does our mind get in the way? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    667. Are You Cash Heavy? Community Episode

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 25, 2025 49:49


    Suze Orman says we should have 3-5 years of cash equivalents available when you retire. Michael Higgins and I disagree. Listen in as we discuss the concept and dive into fundamental concepts like how to decide if you have enough money. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    666. Ten Things About Public Speaking (Solo)

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 22, 2025 32:06


    I love public speaking but realize that it is not everybody's thing. In this episode, I discuss why public speaking is important and what it accomplishes. Is it your favorite pastime or do you loathe it? Listen in to hear why it is important either way. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    665. Ten Things About the Eighties

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 18, 2025 32:08


    If you are like me, you came of age in the 1980's. Things were different then. Money was different. Life was different. In this ten things episode we talk about what life was like growing up in the heart of Gen X. Did I get it right? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    664. Gen X and Their Money w/ Kerry Hannon and Janna Herron

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 15, 2025 48:29


    Are you part of generation X? If so, did you get money wrong? Your generation ceratinly did. We chat today with Kerry Hannon and Janna Herron about their book Reality Bites. If you find yourself struggling like the rest of your generation, this episode is for you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    663. Ten Things About Enough

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 11, 2025 31:25


    Spurred by my conversation with Rose Han, I talk ten things about enough. What is enough money? Joy? Happiness? How do we measure it and not fall into the common traps? If you have struggled with enough, this episode is for you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    662. 100 Friends or $100 Million? w/ Rose Han

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 8, 2025 49:23


    Rose Han has written an awesome book titled Add a Zero. Today, I push her to go past how we make the money, and we delve into what it actually does for us. What would you rather have? 100 friends or one hundred million dollars. Rose knows her answer, what is yours? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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