Podcasts about Financial independence

You won't find a more comprehensive resource on the topic of 72(t) plans and substantially equal periodic payments (SEPP). This little-known IRS provision gives you a perfectly legal way to access your retirement money before 59½ without the 10% penalty… and almost nobody in finance wants to touch it! So, Jackie brings back the one expert that lives and breathes 72(t)s, William (Bill) Stecker, CPA and founder of 72tcalc.com. Bill picks up where he left off when he last appeared on the show in 2025. He further explains the nuances of 72(t) plans and how to avoid common mistakes. Hear how 72(t)s can be incredibly powerful tools for early retirees, laid-off workers, and anyone ready to leave the traditional "hours-for-dollars" trade. This episode covers What a 72(t) or SEPP plan actually is Access to retirement accounts before age 59½ without the 10% penalty tax Why so many financial professionals hesitate to work with 72(t) plans  The minimum plan period and why modifying a SEPP can become extremely expensive  How to determine how much early retirement income you actually need The differences between the Rule of 55 and a 72(t) strategy  Why Bill usually prefers moving money from employer "plan land" into "IRA land"  How brokerage accounts, Roth contributions, part-time work, and SEPPs can work together  Why inflation and unexpected expenses need to be built into an early-retirement income plan  How splitting an IRA into separate accounts can create flexibility and isolate potential mistakes This is the first part of a 2-part episode. Be sure to follow the show and catch part 2 next week (9/6/26). . === SUPPORT  THE  SHOW ===

What happens when one of investing's original disruptors buys one of the industry's newest disruptors? Barry Ritholtz thinks investors may be the biggest winners and Bill and Jackie dig into why. This special breaking-news is an excerpt from an upcoming Catching Up to FI episode, recorded on 8/26/26. Barry reacts to Vanguard's newly announced agreement to acquire Altruist, the fast-growing technology and custody platform built for independent financial advisors. Barry also gives an important disclosure: he's an Altruist investor, so yes, he has a dog in this fight. From there, he explains why combining Vanguard's enormous scale with Altruist's technology could quickly reshape the custody business, put fresh pressure on Fidelity and Schwab, and potentially extend the famous "Vanguard Effect" into another corner of financial services. Bill calls it "disruptor squared." Barry sees an industry that never stands still. And if competition drives prices lower again, investors may ultimately be the ones cashing the biggest check. This episode covers Barry's immediate reaction to Vanguard's agreement to acquire Altruist His disclosure that he is an Altruist investor and financially benefits from the deal Why Altruist's clean-sheet technology made it an attractive challenger to legacy custodians How Vanguard's scale could immediately change Altruist's competitive position Why Fidelity and Schwab may suddenly have a much larger third competitor The "Vanguard Effect" and how competition can push fees lower across an industry Why Barry believes investors could be the biggest winners from the acquisition How Schwab and Robinhood previously disrupted investing through lower-cost and free trading Why Vanguard was a logical potential acquirer given its earlier relationship with Altruist Barry's larger lesson that financial technology never stands still    The Full Episode with Barry Ritholtz will be coming out soon! Be sure to follow the show or subscribe to the channel on YouTube, so you don't miss it!"   === SUPPORT  THE  SHOW ===

Send us Fan MailShownotes can be found at https://www.profitwithlaw.com/548.Early retirement and financial independence are the dream for almost anyone, but how do we plan for and achieve them? How much money is needed to retire and be financially independent? Is the income from your law firm enough? If not, how can you get cash flow outside your business?In this episode, Sarah Young of Young + Co joins Moshe Amsel to discuss the value of CFOs in making financial decisions and planning your firm's growth trajectory. She builds on her years of CFO experience and shares tactical ways to increase your cash flow, prepare for retirement, and achieve financial independence! If you want to know how to create cash flow outside your law firm, this episode is for you! Resources mentioned:Law Firm Growth WorkshopTake the Law Firm Growth Assessment and find out how you rate as a law firm owner! Check out our Profit with Law YouTube channel!Learn more about the Profit with Law Elite Coaching Program hereNot sure if now's the right time? Book a call with us to talk it through and see if it's a good fit.Profit with Law CommunityConnect with Sarah via LinkedIn or Instagram. Learn more about Sarah's work at Young + Co through their website. Profit + Prosper PodcastGet help with your virtual staffing needs through Get Staffed Up. Get $750 off your startup fee here. Join our Facebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/lawfirmgrowthsummit/To request a show topic, recommend a guest or ask a question for the show, please send an email to info@dreambuilderfinancial.com.Connect with Moshe on:Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/moshe.amselLinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mosheamsel/

Jason VanDevere reached financial independence by selling essentially ONE product. And then reinvesting those profits into real estate and the stock market. In this episode, we cover: The power of goal setting Why you should chase your dreams (not just money) Testing business ideas quickly and cheaply When to pivot and when to power through Creating and selling a physical product Building a business around your life (not the other way around) His “dream-driven” framework and why dreaming matters The three Ls of business And much more. If you got value from this episode, please subscribe and share it with a friend! Links From the Episode GoalCrazy.com YouTube Interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxz-haX6d30 Join the Community We'd love to hear your comments and questions about this week's episode. Here are some of the best ways to stay in touch and get involved in The FI Show community! Grab the Ultimate FI Spreadsheet Join our Facebook Group Leave us a voicemail Send an email to contact [at] TheFIshow [dot] com If you like what you hear, please subscribe and leave a rating/review! >> You can do that by clicking here 

What if that old pension you barely think about is secretly one of the most valuable assets in your retirement plan? Bill and Jackie welcome back financial planner and educator, Andy Panko for a deep dive into the increasingly rare (but far from extinct) world of pensions. They explore plans from private and government employers and why a seemingly small monthly check can dramatically change the work the rest of your portfolio has to do. This episode covers Why pensions are less common but still relevant to millions of workers What it actually means when an employer "freezes" a pension How to think about a pension as part of your overall retirement portfolio The risks behind private, federal, state, and municipal pension promises Lump sum versus lifetime monthly payments and the trade-offs of each Single-life, joint-and-survivor, period-certain, and inflation-adjusted pension options Why guaranteed income can give retirees psychological permission to spend When comparing an employer pension with a commercial income annuity may make sense  Andy's four-question framework for deciding whether lifetime payments fit your plan Jackie's pension options and her final decision to turn on lifetime monthly payments Where to find old or forgotten pensions from previous employers . === SUPPORT  THE  SHOW ===

You've heard of FIRE, Financial Independence, Retire Early. And maybe your first reaction is: those people are a little extreme. But what if you stripped away the extreme version? What if early retirement just meant leaving the workforce in your late 50s, or stepping back a few years before 65… on your own terms? That's exactly what we're digging into in this special mailbag episode with the co-hosts of the Catching Up To FI podcast.  Together, Bill and Jackie answer your real questions, including: How do you plan for health insurance before Medicare kicks in? How much cash do you really need on hand when you retire early? I've been financially independent for three months. How do I reallocate my portfolio now that I'm in drawdown mode? How do you plan for FIRE when you're also caring for an aging parent?

We speak with two late-start savers who are now either retired or soon to be retired. One never made more than $100,000 a year and one is an emergency room doctor.  Catching Up to FI F.I.R.E. for Dummies 403bwise/457bwiser Facebook Group  457bwiser.org Learned by Being Burned (short pod series about K-12 403(b) issues) 403bwise.org Meridian Wealth Management 403bwise & 457bwiser Facebook Group Nothing presented or discussed is to be construed as investment or tax advice. This can be secured from a vetted Certified Financial Planner (CFP®).

If you think winning the lottery is the only way to achieve financial independence, think again! The Financial Independence, Retire Early (FIRE) movement has shifted drastically over the years in the wake of inflation, rising housing costs, and healthcare challenges, but the core principle of FI is more relevant today than ever. Clark shares his own journey—including retiring at 31 and  starting his first business by living on half his income—to show you how living on less than you make can buy you ultimate freedom. Also, are you really getting a discount, or are retailers just playing mind games? Clark exposes how major stores—especially in clothing and online marketplaces like Amazon—artificially inflate original prices just to mark them back down. Learn how to spot deceptive pricing tricks, use historic price-tracking tools, and resist psychological sales traps so you never get ripped off again. Plus, Christa shares your #AskClark questions and Clark gives his take. All this and more on the August 19, 2026, episode of The Clark Howard Show. Submit your opinions or questions: Ask Clark. FIRE Movement Update: Segment 1 Ask Clark: Segment 2 Pricing Tricks: Segment 3 Ask Clark: Segment 4 Mentioned on the show: What Does Financial Freedom Mean To You? Our Six Levels What I got wrong about FIRE   /   How to Retire Early in 7 Steps Best Of: The Clark Origin Story  /  About Clark Howard What Is Mortgage Recasting? / Mortgage Recast Calculator How some retailers inflate original prices to create fake discounts How To Get the Best Price Possible Shopping Online - Clark Howard How To Use Camelcamelcamel - Clark Howard National Academy of Elder Law Attorneys Home NAELA Best Small Business Credit Cards - Clark Howard How Do I Remove Myself as an Authorized User on a Credit Card? Clark.com resources: Episode transcripts Community.Clark.com  /  Ask Clark Clark.com daily money newsletter Consumer Action Center Free Helpline: 636-492-5275 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

After Rishi Vamdatt's conversation with Bill and Jackie, his parents Renu and Raag step out from behind the scenes to share how their son became the 16-year-old financial educator behind Easy Peasy Finance. They believe raising a financially savvy kid has less to do with giving money lectures and more to do with letting them swipe the credit card at the grocery store and ask "what happens next"? Their approach was surprisingly simple: money was never taboo, questions were always welcome, and Rishi was allowed to follow his curiosity rather than being scheduled into oblivion. For late-starting parents, the reassuring message here is that you don't need to raise another Rishi. Just talk openly, model your values, and follow the child. This episode covers How Renu and Raag recognized Rishi's unusual interest in money from a very young age Why money, income, mortgages, and family finances were never treated as taboo How everyday activities like grocery shopping became natural financial lessons The family effort behind the early years of Easy Peasy Finance Why Rishi has turned down sponsorships, including significant offers, to protect audience trust How Rishi's parents balance his mathematical approach with the emotional side of money Why letting children lead their interests can be more powerful than filling every hour with activities How Rishi balanced finance with theater, travel, fishing, scuba diving, video games, and being a regular kid What parents can do differently to build financial fluency in the next generation How financial values and openness traveled from grandparents to parents to Rishi   . === SUPPORT  THE  SHOW ===

#742: A listener hit her $1.4 million early-retirement goal three years ahead of schedule — and now she's stuck deciding whether paying off a low-interest mortgage is smart, or just fear in disguise. Later, a former financial planner explains why he still won't recommend one of the most talked-about "safer" investing strategies in the FIRE community. This week's Q&A tackles three listener questions: hiring your first accountant amid a complicated tax situation, whether to pay off a mortgage or retire early once you've already hit your number, and why one half of the show won't touch a popular alternative investing strategy. In this episode, we discuss: How to tell the difference between a CPA, an EA, and a tax attorney — and which one you actually need Why software can't keep up once your tax situation gets complicated How to interview and choose an accountant with confidence How to know if "one more year" at work is a smart plan or a sign of fear Why loving your job can change the entire math on early retirement Why a former financial planner still won't recommend risk parity investing What four well-known investing philosophies get right — and where they disagree Whether you're hiring your first accountant, staring down an early retirement decision, or trying to make sense of competing investment philosophies, this episode will help you separate genuine progress from comfortable procrastination. ⏱️ TIMESTAMPS Note: Timestamps may vary slightly depending on dynamic ad placements. (04:02) Why software can't handle a messy tax situation (08:02) The three types of tax pros — and who you actually need (12:46) How to interview and choose the right accountant (24:42) She hit her $1.4M goal three years early (32:22) The hidden fear behind "one more year" at work (38:29) Why loving your job changes the retirement math (49:39) Why a former advisor won't touch risk parity (53:46) Four investing legends who all disagree with each other (59:35) The historian's warning: history doesn't repeat itself (1:07:57) The cooking analogy that explains your portfolio

In this episode: visualizing your life of financial freedom, releasing unhelpful stories, cultivating mindfulness, envisioning what you wantEpisode SummaryThis guided meditation explores how the stories we tell ourselves shape the reality we experience. Adam Coelho invites you to settle the mind, bring your vision for financial freedom into awareness, and notice not only the life you're imagining after FI, but also the story you're carrying about whether that vision is possible. With kind curiosity, the practice helps you identify doubts, resistance, or limiting narratives — and gently choose the stories that move you toward the life you want.Resources & Books MentionedMindful FIRE Legends communityFI Life Jumpstart envisioning exercise

What if the person explaining money to your kids has already been doing it for more than half his life, and passed the CFP exam before he could legally vote? Bill and Jackie sit down with 16-year-old Rishi Vamdatt, founder of Easy Peasy Finance. Rishi started learning about money at six, investing at seven, and teaching personal finance on YouTube at eight. But this isn't just a story about an unusually motivated teenager. Rishi offers a surprisingly universal lesson: money gets easier when we strip away the jargon, practice with real dollars, automate the basics, and start where we are.   This episode covers How Rishi passed the CFP exam at just 16 years old The childhood experiences that sparked his fascination with money Why he gave up birthday parties and started investing at age seven How Easy Peasy Finance grew from kid-friendly three-minute videos into more than 1,300 pieces of financial content What parents can do to teach kids about money without turning it into another lecture Why allowances, real-life practice, and even small money mistakes can be powerful teachers Rishi's simple approach to index funds, automation, and long-term investing Why financial education should begin before high school His take on Roth IRAs, 529 plans, Trump accounts, taxes, and estate planning What a 16-year-old financial educator wants late starters to remember about beginning today   . === SUPPORT  THE  SHOW ===

Send us Fan MailMany veterinarians focus on reaching a specific retirement number, but what happens when life doesn't follow the plan?In this episode, Tom Seeko explores why financial independence is about more than hitting a savings goal. He discusses how life events, career changes, business ownership, market shifts, health issues, and evolving priorities can impact even the most carefully constructed financial plans.Tom breaks down three key areas that can help create a more adaptable financial strategy:• Protecting against risks that could disrupt your income or business • Building consistent saving habits • Creating balance across different types of assets and tax bucketsWhether you're an associate veterinarian, practice owner, or somewhere in between, this episode offers a different perspective on building a financial life designed to adjust as your circumstances change.Smarter Vet Podcast-https://flveterinaryadvisors.com/smarter-vet-financial-podcast/Watch the no cost 5-part video course to review your finances and see where you could be doing better in your finances:5 Foundational Steps to Financial Balance Video Course-http://series.flvetadvisors.com/Find out what you could be overlooking within your practice by taking our brief assessment:Test My Personal Financial IQ-https://flveterinaryadvisors.com/personal-test/Sign up for a complimentary phone call to talk about how to get better use of all the cash inside your practice:Schedule a time-https://flveterinaryadvisors.com/contact-usInstagram-https://www.instagram.com/flveterinaryadvisors/Facebook-https://facebook.com/flvetadvisorsLinkedIn-https://linkedin.com/company/flvetadvisorsYouTube- https://www.youtube.com/@floridaveterinaryadvisors7665

Starting with negative net worth at 47 in Los Angeles on $58,000 a year sounds impossible. Yet Paige reached financial independence by 56, retired early, and now lives exactly the life she designed. This isn't theory — this is what happened nine years after her first ChooseFI appearance. Key Topics Discussed 00:00:00 Introduction and The Alley Will Provide Brad welcomes Paige back nine years later and revisits the famous "alley will provide" philosophy. Paige shares modern examples including vintage outdoor furniture and garden bricks sourced for free, plus tips on Facebook Marketplace and neighborhood pickup days. 00:06:30 DIY Then and Now Discussion of how DIY has evolved in Paige's life, from teaching herself to plaster walls to handmaking trim. She explains how priorities shift as resources grow, choosing which projects deserve personal attention versus outsourcing. 00:12:00 The Journey from Negative to Positive Net Worth Paige recounts reaching positive net worth in 2017, quitting a toxic job in 2019 with newfound FU money, and serendipitously landing a better opportunity. Her career progression led to becoming a post-production supervisor with significant income growth. 00:22:15 COVID Market Crash and Bold Moves Paige reveals her contrarian decision to invest almost all her savings during the COVID market crash with only $1,000 in savings, living on unemployment she'd designed her life around. She explains trusting the math and seeing the dip as a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. 00:30:00 Test Driving FI and First Withdrawals Currently on a sabbatical year test-driving FI, Paige shares the psychological experience of taking her first withdrawal from investments and choosing quarterly distributions. She discusses adjusted FI numbers and how her spending evolved while core frugality remained. 00:38:45 Living with Purpose and Community Paige explains how her 100-year-old home has become a haven for friends in need, never charging rent but creating a communal living environment. She reflects on the value of shared meals and how society's assumptions about independence are often wrong. 00:46:20 Age and Location as Superpowers A counterintuitive discussion about how starting FI in her mid-40s in Los Angeles actually became advantages. Knowing herself meant no identity crisis, higher income opportunities in LA offset costs, and decades of frugal living made the transition natural. 00:52:30 Freedom to Create Without Monetizing Paige shares her ultimate FI win: the ability to be the artist she always wanted to be without needing to monetize her creativity. She reflects on buying an extra decade of freedom and helping younger colleagues start their own FI journeys. Notable Quotes Paige: "You either trust the math or you don't trust the math. And I trust the math. It has served me and I've trusted the math for ten years and it's worked." Paige: "When you have something you want and you're getting something you want, you don't feel like you're sacrificing." Paige: "The great thing about FIRE is it asks you to say, who are you and what do you value most? And when you do that, somehow, the money does fall into place a little bit better." Paige: "I bought an extra ten years of freedom for myself than the average by just doing what I had already been doing." Paige: "I don't have to monetize my life anymore. I can just enjoy what I do as an artist solely to do it for my own personal enjoyment. And that is wonderful." Key Takeaways Design your budget to be survivable on unemployment income (or other safety net) to create flexibility for bold career moves and market opportunities Implement the 72-hour rule: add desired items to an online cart or "save for later" list and wait before purchasing to reduce impulse spending Identify your core values and audit whether your time and money align with what you say is most important — adjust accordingly Start quarterly portfolio withdrawals (rather than annual) if the psychological comfort of smalle…

Send us Fan MailOne lucky break didn't make Gene Valentino successful, but it did reveal what happens when preparation meets timing. We sat down with Gene to trace a path that starts with a working-class upbringing and a relentless work ethic, then jumps through real estate investing, insurance sales, and into a wild moment in business history: the early cellular telephone franchise lottery. Gene explains what it took to raise capital, build infrastructure on a deadline, and eventually sell the operation for life-changing money, then use that exit as seed capital for a diversified holding company.We also zoom out to what most people ignore: how politics and geopolitical events shape your wallet. From oil prices to taxes to regulation, we talk through why investors and entrepreneurs cannot afford to “stay out of politics,” even if they hate the drama. The conversation turns to today's technology trends, including the AI boom, data centers, and the way builders like Elon Musk attract both opportunity and backlash, plus what that says about incentives, culture, and long-term wealth creation.Finally, Gene shares a personal story about patriotism and civic responsibility that frames the episode's core takeaway: self-reliance is learned, and it compounds. If you're building a side hustle, thinking about investing, or trying to turn skills into ownership, you'll walk away with a clearer filter for risk, timing, and what to focus on next. Subscribe, share this with a builder in your life, and leave a review so more entrepreneurs can find the show.Buzzsprout - Let's get your podcast launched!Start for FREEDisclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.Support the showSubscribe to Side Hustle City and join our Community on Facebook

In this episode of Case Studies, the tables turn. Casey sits in the guest chair for the first time in 150 episodes, interviewed by his friend, Dan Snow. Casey opens up about building equity in Vivint before its sale to Blackstone at age 27, his late-in-life ADHD diagnosis, and the morning rituals, cold plunges, and Harvard executive education that keep him grounded.The conversation moves through faith, fatherhood, and the myth of the overnight success. Drawing on lessons from 150 interviews, Casey argues that success is never linear; it's messy, and that's what makes it human. He reflects on money as a magnifier, the difference between character and competency, and why progress, not comfort, equals happiness. Casey also speaks candidly about his marriage to Chelsea Baugh, twenty-two years of deliberate work behind a partnership that looks effortless from the outside. It's an unusually personal conversation about identity, discipline, and what it actually takes to build a life worth admiring.[00:00] Money as a Magnifier[01:22] Turning the Mirror on Casey[02:25] Why He Asks About Childhood[03:46] Discovering His ADHD[06:21] Dropping the H-Bomb[07:56] From Door-to-Door to Financial Independence[09:58] Early Wins That Built Confidence[15:00] Building the Morning Rituals[16:15] Cold Plunge as Courage Practice[20:41] Success Is Never Linear[32:23] Getting Hit in the Eye[38:30] Circle of Control vs. Concern[44:27] Advice for a Newly Rich 27-Year-OldThe information in this communication is provided for informational purposes only and does not constitute investment advice, a recommendation, or a solicitation to invest in any fund or security. This communication is not intended to provide, and should not be relied upon as, tax, legal, investment, accounting, or financial advice. Recipients should consult their own tax, legal, accounting, and other professional advisors regarding any potential investment in a fund or security.This communication does not constitute an offer to sell or a solicitation of an offer to buy any interest in a pooled investment vehicle sponsored by Sandlot Partners, LLC (“Sandlot”) or any of its affiliates (“Fund”). Any such offer or solicitation will be made only by means of each respective Fund's confidential Private Placement Memorandum (“PPM”), Limited Partnership Agreement, Subscription Documents, and other operative documents (collectively, the “Offering Documents”), which contain material information not included herein and which supersede this communication in its entirety.Past performance is not indicative of future results. There can be no assurance that any Fund will achieve comparable results or implement its strategy successfully. All investing involves risk, including the loss of principal. Each Fund typically invests in illiquid projects that cannot be quickly sold or converted to cash. As a result, investors may not be able to access their capital when desired. Additional risks associated with an investment in a Fund, as well as important information about Sandlot Partners and its personnel, are described in detail in the Offering Documents and in Sandlot Partners' Form ADV, which is publicly available on the SEC's Investment Adviser Public Disclosure website at https://adviserinfo.sec.gov. Both the Offering Documents and Form ADV should be read carefully and should serve as the sole basis for any decision to invest in each respective Fund.Certain statements, testimonials, or endorsements included in this communication may have been provided by clients or non-clients of Sandlot. The individuals or entities providing such statements did not receive direct cash compensation from Sandlot in connection with the statements or endorsements.In certain circumstances, Sandlot or its affiliates may have provided indirect economic benefits or other consideration to such persons or entities, including through business relationships, investments, portfolio company relationships, or other arrangements. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

1. Why Life Planning Should Come Before Financial Planning Why you need to understand the life you want to create before deciding how your money should support it. Using a lifetime cash flow plan to identify future liabilities and the assets needed to fund them. 2. Looking Beyond Investments to Understand Total Wealth Why traditional financial planning can focus too heavily on regulated investments rather than the full picture of someone's wealth. Looking at property, pensions, savings, investments and future earnings as part of a wider wealth plan. 3. The Overlooked Value of Human Capital Understanding human capital as the skills, property, intellectual property, networks and other assets that can generate earnings. How leveraging human capital can create entrepreneurial opportunities, income and financial capital over time. 4. Taking Back Control Through Financial Agency What Steve means by financial agency and why people should have greater ownership of their financial decisions. How proportional planning can provide expert support during complexity, stress or major life changes without creating permanent dependency. 5. How AI Could Change Financial Planning Why AI is reducing the information gap between financial institutions and consumers. How individuals can use AI as a co-pilot to improve their financial capability and productivity while retaining human judgement. 6. Understanding Fees and Making Better Financial Decisions Why consumers should take a closer look at the charges attached to pensions, investments and financial products. How AI-powered tools could help people identify hidden terms, charges and potential red flags so they can make more informed decisions. 7. The Future of Financial Advice and Wealth Transfer How changing consumer expectations, technology and the Great Wealth Transfer could reshape the traditional financial advice model. Why greater financial capability, combined with professional support when genuinely needed, could give future generations more control over their wealth. Resources: The Academy of Life Planning - Navigate life with confidence WealthBuilders - Build, protect and transfer your wealth WealthBuilders Membership: Free access to guides, webinars, and community Connect with Us: Listen on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, YouTube, and all major platforms. Next Steps On Your WealthBuilding Journey:   Join the WealthBuilders Facebook Community Schedule a 1:1 call with one of our team Become a member of WealthBuilders If you have been enjoying listening to WealthTalk, please leave us a review!

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Paige started her journey to financial independence at 45 with student loans, negative net worth, and an average income in Los Angeles—yet she'll reach FI by 2025. Sam lives on $12,000 per year in the same expensive city and champions "retiring often" instead of early retirement. Together, they prove that every excuse about FI being impossible is just a limiting belief waiting to be shattered. Key Topics Discussed Introduction and Context 00:00:00 Brad provides context for this 2017 episode, explaining how Paige challenged their limiting belief about achieving FI in high cost of living areas. Paige's FI Discovery 00:05:00 Paige shares how she discovered FI at 44 after getting her first 'real' job, introduced by Sam to Mr. Money Mustache, and started her journey with negative net worth. Sam's Early FI Journey 00:15:00 Sam discusses how his parents automated investing for him, the importance of starting early, and his approach to 'retiring often' instead of just early retirement. Living on $12,000/Year in LA 00:25:00 Sam breaks down his extraordinarily low burn rate in Los Angeles, including creative housing solutions, no car payments, and extreme DIY lifestyle. The Alley Will Provide 00:35:00 Paige and Sam discuss their non-minimalist approach to possessions, finding everything from vacuum cleaners to furniture in alleys and thrift stores. Housing Arbitrage and The DIY House 00:45:00 Discussion of how they purchased a house with a gas leak for $475k in LA, using Sam's DIY skills to make it work despite traditional financing challenges. Breaking Down Limiting Beliefs 00:55:00 Paige addresses common excuses for not pursuing FI: late start, student loans, high cost of living, average income, and shows how she's overcoming each. Path to FI by 2025 01:05:00 Paige outlines her concrete plan to reach FI with less than $500k, leveraging the age 55 rule, catch-up contributions, and eventual Social Security. Hot Seat Round 01:15:00 Rapid-fire questions covering favorite blogs, articles, life hacks, biggest mistakes, and advice for their younger selves. Notable Quotes "The alley will provide." — Paige "Don't retire early, retire often." — Sam "The best time to start investing was twenty years ago. The second best time is today." — Sam "Earning more, but still living on thirty, I feel so much freer. It feels so different." — Paige "Forgive yourself for not having done it sooner. Because if you get hung up on that, you're just going to get stuck." — Sam Key Takeaways Calculate your own FI number using 25x your annual expenses, then work backwards to determine your timeline If you have kids, automate investing for them early—open accounts and make saving the default, not a decision Explore creative housing solutions in your area: roommates, house hacking, or arbitraging neighborhoods for lower rent Learn one new DIY skill per month using YouTube—start with something currently costing you money (car maintenance, home repairs) If you're over 50, maximize catch-up contributions to retirement accounts and research the age 55 rule for your 401(k) Track where free resources appear in your community—thrift stores, community boards, bulk trash days, online marketplaces Set up automatic transfers to investment accounts to remove decision fatigue and make saving the default Resources and Links ChooseFI Episode 041 (original) Mr. Money Mustache Blog Mad Fientist Blog Big ERN (Early Retirement Now) Jim Collins stock series Frugal Woods Personal Capital YouTube (DIY learning) Jocko Willink podcast

Get the 200+ Page Optimal Living Daily Workbook (PDF) - Free. Want to turn today's episode into an actionable plan? Join the Optimal Living Weekly newsletter and I'll send you our 200-page digital workbook immediately. It's packed with the best takeaways from the show, formatted for easy reading and implementation at home. Get your free PDF workbook here: https://oldpodcast.eo.page/join Discover all of the podcasts in our network, search for specific episodes, get the Optimal Living Daily workbook, and learn more at: OLDPodcast.com. Episode 3660: JL Collins shares two essays. First, he explains why everyone needs F-you money: savings that buy you the freedom to speak up, walk away, and weather a job loss on your own terms. Then he looks back at four decades of crashes, wars, and crises to show why patient investing in the stock market still rewarded those working toward financial independence. Read along with the original articles here: http://jlcollinsnh.com/2011/06/06/why-you-need-f-you-money AND http://jlcollinsnh.com/2017/07/26/time-machine-and-the-future-returns-for-stocks Quotes to ponder: "There are many things money can buy, but the most valuable of all is freedom." "Those who live paycheck to paycheck are slaves. Those who carry debt are slaves with even stouter shackles." "12% annual returns don't require a perfect Golden Age. They can, and have, blossomed in the midst of turmoil, war, grief and economic collapse." Optimal Finance Daily is a daily personal finance podcast where we narrate the best articles on financial independence, investing, saving money, and money management, read to you by a professional narrator so you can grow your wealth a little more every day. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Get the 200+ Page Optimal Living Daily Workbook (PDF) - Free. Want to turn today's episode into an actionable plan? Join the Optimal Living Weekly newsletter and I'll send you our 200-page digital workbook immediately. It's packed with the best takeaways from the show, formatted for easy reading and implementation at home. Get your free PDF workbook here: https://oldpodcast.eo.page/join Discover all of the podcasts in our network, search for specific episodes, get the Optimal Living Daily workbook, and learn more at: OLDPodcast.com. Episode 3660: JL Collins shares two essays. First, he explains why everyone needs F-you money: savings that buy you the freedom to speak up, walk away, and weather a job loss on your own terms. Then he looks back at four decades of crashes, wars, and crises to show why patient investing in the stock market still rewarded those working toward financial independence. Read along with the original articles here: http://jlcollinsnh.com/2011/06/06/why-you-need-f-you-money AND http://jlcollinsnh.com/2017/07/26/time-machine-and-the-future-returns-for-stocks Quotes to ponder: "There are many things money can buy, but the most valuable of all is freedom." "Those who live paycheck to paycheck are slaves. Those who carry debt are slaves with even stouter shackles." "12% annual returns don't require a perfect Golden Age. They can, and have, blossomed in the midst of turmoil, war, grief and economic collapse." Optimal Finance Daily is a daily personal finance podcast where we narrate the best articles on financial independence, investing, saving money, and money management, read to you by a professional narrator so you can grow your wealth a little more every day. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Get the 200+ Page Optimal Living Daily Workbook (PDF) - Free. Want to turn today's episode into an actionable plan? Join the Optimal Living Weekly newsletter and I'll send you our 200-page digital workbook immediately. It's packed with the best takeaways from the show, formatted for easy reading and implementation at home. Get your free PDF workbook here: https://oldpodcast.eo.page/join Discover all of the podcasts in our network, search for specific episodes, get the Optimal Living Daily workbook, and learn more at: OLDPodcast.com. Episode 3660: JL Collins shares two essays. First, he explains why everyone needs F-you money: savings that buy you the freedom to speak up, walk away, and weather a job loss on your own terms. Then he looks back at four decades of crashes, wars, and crises to show why patient investing in the stock market still rewarded those working toward financial independence. Read along with the original articles here: http://jlcollinsnh.com/2011/06/06/why-you-need-f-you-money AND http://jlcollinsnh.com/2017/07/26/time-machine-and-the-future-returns-for-stocks Quotes to ponder: "There are many things money can buy, but the most valuable of all is freedom." "Those who live paycheck to paycheck are slaves. Those who carry debt are slaves with even stouter shackles." "12% annual returns don't require a perfect Golden Age. They can, and have, blossomed in the midst of turmoil, war, grief and economic collapse." Optimal Finance Daily is a daily personal finance podcast where we narrate the best articles on financial independence, investing, saving money, and money management, read to you by a professional narrator so you can grow your wealth a little more every day. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This is Part 2 of a 2-part Episode. Be sure to catch Part 1 that aired last week (August 2nd). What if the safest-looking retirement portfolio is actually protecting you from the wrong disaster? In part two of Bill's bond marathon with Frank Vasquez, the conversation moves from Bond 101 into the question that really matters: what role should fixed income play once you stop accumulating and start living from your portfolio? Frank explains why bonds should be chosen for a specific job, why a total bond fund may be trying to do too many things at once, and why retirement planning should prepare for a bad decade. The ultimate takeaway is reassuring: bonds are complicated, but most people probably only need one or two bond funds chosen with an actual purpose.   This episode covers How bond choices should change from wealth accumulation to retirement spending Why the purpose of a bond matters more than simply deciding to "own bonds" The weaknesses of total bond market funds such as BND Why retirement portfolios should prepare for a difficult first decade What Bill Bengen's research suggests about stocks, bonds, cash, and sustainable withdrawals Why TIPS disappointed Frank during both the 2008 recession and the 2022 inflation shock The limited situations where a bond or TIPS ladder may genuinely be useful Why elaborate bucket strategies often behave like ordinary 60/40 portfolios The risks of pairing a mostly stock portfolio with only two or three years of cash Frank's four principles for designing a diversified retirement portfolio   === SUPPORT  THE  SHOW ===

Get the 200+ Page Optimal Living Daily Workbook (PDF) - Free. Want to turn today's episode into an actionable plan? Join the Optimal Living Weekly newsletter and I'll send you our 200-page digital workbook immediately. It's packed with the best takeaways from the show, formatted for easy reading and implementation at home. Get your free PDF workbook here: https://oldpodcast.eo.page/join Discover all of the podcasts in our network, search for specific episodes, get the Optimal Living Daily workbook, and learn more at: OLDPodcast.com. Episode 3657: Jacob Lund Fisker explains the equation at the heart of financial independence: annual expenses below 3 percent of invested savings. He reveals why early retirement depends less on hitting a big number and more on creativity, practical skills, and the willingness to live differently than everyone else. Read along with the original article(s) here: https://earlyretirementextreme.com/can-i-retire-young.html Quotes to ponder: "This equation is much more important than absolute numbers." "Instead of downgrading, choose to live differently." "Can you be happy without doing what everybody else is doing?" Optimal Finance Daily is a daily personal finance podcast where we narrate the best articles on financial independence, investing, saving money, and money management, read to you by a professional narrator so you can grow your wealth a little more every day. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Get the 200+ Page Optimal Living Daily Workbook (PDF) - Free. Want to turn today's episode into an actionable plan? Join the Optimal Living Weekly newsletter and I'll send you our 200-page digital workbook immediately. It's packed with the best takeaways from the show, formatted for easy reading and implementation at home. Get your free PDF workbook here: https://oldpodcast.eo.page/join Discover all of the podcasts in our network, search for specific episodes, get the Optimal Living Daily workbook, and learn more at: OLDPodcast.com. Episode 3657: Jacob Lund Fisker explains the equation at the heart of financial independence: annual expenses below 3 percent of invested savings. He reveals why early retirement depends less on hitting a big number and more on creativity, practical skills, and the willingness to live differently than everyone else. Read along with the original article(s) here: https://earlyretirementextreme.com/can-i-retire-young.html Quotes to ponder: "This equation is much more important than absolute numbers." "Instead of downgrading, choose to live differently." "Can you be happy without doing what everybody else is doing?" Optimal Finance Daily is a daily personal finance podcast where we narrate the best articles on financial independence, investing, saving money, and money management, read to you by a professional narrator so you can grow your wealth a little more every day. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Get the 200+ Page Optimal Living Daily Workbook (PDF) - Free. Want to turn today's episode into an actionable plan? Join the Optimal Living Weekly newsletter and I'll send you our 200-page digital workbook immediately. It's packed with the best takeaways from the show, formatted for easy reading and implementation at home. Get your free PDF workbook here: https://oldpodcast.eo.page/join Discover all of the podcasts in our network, search for specific episodes, get the Optimal Living Daily workbook, and learn more at: OLDPodcast.com. Episode 3657: Jacob Lund Fisker explains the equation at the heart of financial independence: annual expenses below 3 percent of invested savings. He reveals why early retirement depends less on hitting a big number and more on creativity, practical skills, and the willingness to live differently than everyone else. Read along with the original article(s) here: https://earlyretirementextreme.com/can-i-retire-young.html Quotes to ponder: "This equation is much more important than absolute numbers." "Instead of downgrading, choose to live differently." "Can you be happy without doing what everybody else is doing?" Optimal Finance Daily is a daily personal finance podcast where we narrate the best articles on financial independence, investing, saving money, and money management, read to you by a professional narrator so you can grow your wealth a little more every day. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of the BiggerPockets Money podcast, hosts Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench react to the biggest takeaways and criticisms from Mindy's recent episode with The Money Guys. Mindy shares her perspective on the conversation, clears up misconceptions, and discusses what financial independence really means from her point of view. The discussion also explores the judgment that often exists within the financial independence community, how personal values influence investing decisions, and why there is no single path to building wealth. Whether you're pursuing FIRE, growing your investment portfolio, or refining your long term financial strategy, this episode offers practical insights to help you make confident financial decisions. To go beyond the podcast: Take the guesswork out of investing, taxes, and retirement. Book a free consultation with Domain Money Today: www.biggerpocketsmoney.com/cfp  Get 50% Off Your First Year of Monarch by using code ‘Pockets': https://www.monarch.com/pockets Kick start your financial independence journey with our FREE financial resources - https://biggerpocketsmoney.com/ Subscribe on YouTube for even more content- www.youtube.com/biggerpocketsmoney  Connect with us on social media to join the other BiggerPockets Money listeners - https://www.facebook.com/groups/BPMoney We believe financial independence is attainable for anyone no matter when or where you're starting. Let's get your financial house in order! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode: financial independence, life design, envisioning, mini experiments, asking what you actually want with Adam CoelhoEpisode SummaryAdam explores the deeper question that comes after building financial freedom: what do you want that freedom to make possible? Through three anonymized stories, he shows how FI can create options, but clarity comes from envisioning, experimenting, and choosing a new story before life defaults into “one more year syndrome”Resources & Books MentionedFree FI Life Jumpstart ExerciseAsk What's Possible Workshop“The Predicting Brain” by Regina Pally

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Life Update + Financial Independence as a Travel TherapistJoin us for an update on our lives, including buying a new house, expecting our second child this fall, and working part time locally as PTs. We also discuss how our financial independence journey led us to this point via travel therapy, and how others can pursue financial independence/semi-retirement via travel therapy.

Get the 200+ Page Optimal Living Daily Workbook (PDF) - Free. Want to turn today's episode into an actionable plan? Join the Optimal Living Weekly newsletter and I'll send you our 200-page digital workbook immediately. It's packed with the best takeaways from the show, formatted for easy reading and implementation at home. Get your free PDF workbook here: https://oldpodcast.eo.page/join Discover all of the podcasts in our network, search for specific episodes, get the Optimal Living Daily workbook, and learn more at: OLDPodcast.com. Episode 3651: The Mad Fientist applies Maslow's hierarchy to money, mapping five levels of financial needs from Survival and Sustainability up through Accumulation, Independence, and Utilization. Knowing which level you are on brings clarity to your personal finance priorities and more empathy for people at other stages of the journey to financial independence. Read along with the original article(s) here: https://www.madfientist.com/hierarchy-of-financial-needs/ Quotes to ponder: "Since it's unlikely you will be physically able to work your entire life, you eventually need to get to the point where you can pay all your expenses without working." "The Hierarchy of Financial Needs is useful when talking about finances with other people because it allows you to be more understanding of different situations and more empathetic." "The more you think about the top level of the pyramid while you're on the journey to financial independence, the easier and more enjoyable that journey will be." Optimal Finance Daily is a daily personal finance podcast where we narrate the best articles on financial independence, investing, saving money, and money management, read to you by a professional narrator so you can grow your wealth a little more every day. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What if bonds aren't dead at all—and we've just spent the last decade misunderstanding what job they were hired to do? Bill welcomes back Frank Vasquez, the hotdog-named engineer-lawyer-DIY investor behind Risk Parity Radio, for part one of a lively fixed-income deep dive. Starting with the basics, Frank explains what a bond actually is, why owning one makes you the lender rather than the shareholder, and how bonds can provide income, stability, or diversification depending on the type and duration. They work through the very real risks hiding behind the phrase "safe investment." Along the way, they visit the Witch of Wall Street, Frank's crystal balls, and the illusion that individual bonds never lose value just because nobody checks the price every day.  This is Part 1 of a 2-part Episode. Be sure to catch Part 2 next week (August 9th). This episode covers What bonds are and how they differ fundamentally from stocks The three main roles bonds can play: income, stability, and diversification The differences between Treasuries, corporate bonds, municipal bonds, and TIPS Why higher yields usually come with higher credit or default risk Maturity, par value, duration, yield to maturity, and the yield curve Why individual bonds fluctuate in value even when investors do not see the daily price How interest-rate changes affect short-, intermediate-, and long-duration bonds The major risks of bond investing, including inflation, liquidity, credit, and call risk Why diversification depends on correlation, not simply owning investments with different names What 2022 taught investors about stocks, bonds, inflation, and unusual market environments   === SUPPORT  THE  SHOW ===

Get the 200+ Page Optimal Living Daily Workbook (PDF) - Free. Want to turn today's episode into an actionable plan? Join the Optimal Living Weekly newsletter and I'll send you our 200-page digital workbook immediately. It's packed with the best takeaways from the show, formatted for easy reading and implementation at home. Get your free PDF workbook here: https://oldpodcast.eo.page/join Discover all of the podcasts in our network, search for specific episodes, get the Optimal Living Daily workbook, and learn more at: OLDPodcast.com. Episode 3651: The Mad Fientist applies Maslow's hierarchy to money, mapping five levels of financial needs from Survival and Sustainability up through Accumulation, Independence, and Utilization. Knowing which level you are on brings clarity to your personal finance priorities and more empathy for people at other stages of the journey to financial independence. Read along with the original article(s) here: https://www.madfientist.com/hierarchy-of-financial-needs/ Quotes to ponder: "Since it's unlikely you will be physically able to work your entire life, you eventually need to get to the point where you can pay all your expenses without working." "The Hierarchy of Financial Needs is useful when talking about finances with other people because it allows you to be more understanding of different situations and more empathetic." "The more you think about the top level of the pyramid while you're on the journey to financial independence, the easier and more enjoyable that journey will be." Optimal Finance Daily is a daily personal finance podcast where we narrate the best articles on financial independence, investing, saving money, and money management, read to you by a professional narrator so you can grow your wealth a little more every day. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Get the 200+ Page Optimal Living Daily Workbook (PDF) - Free. Want to turn today's episode into an actionable plan? Join the Optimal Living Weekly newsletter and I'll send you our 200-page digital workbook immediately. It's packed with the best takeaways from the show, formatted for easy reading and implementation at home. Get your free PDF workbook here: https://oldpodcast.eo.page/join Discover all of the podcasts in our network, search for specific episodes, get the Optimal Living Daily workbook, and learn more at: OLDPodcast.com. Episode 3651: The Mad Fientist applies Maslow's hierarchy to money, mapping five levels of financial needs from Survival and Sustainability up through Accumulation, Independence, and Utilization. Knowing which level you are on brings clarity to your personal finance priorities and more empathy for people at other stages of the journey to financial independence. Read along with the original article(s) here: https://www.madfientist.com/hierarchy-of-financial-needs/ Quotes to ponder: "Since it's unlikely you will be physically able to work your entire life, you eventually need to get to the point where you can pay all your expenses without working." "The Hierarchy of Financial Needs is useful when talking about finances with other people because it allows you to be more understanding of different situations and more empathetic." "The more you think about the top level of the pyramid while you're on the journey to financial independence, the easier and more enjoyable that journey will be." Optimal Finance Daily is a daily personal finance podcast where we narrate the best articles on financial independence, investing, saving money, and money management, read to you by a professional narrator so you can grow your wealth a little more every day. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Can moving abroad help you reach financial independence faster?Yes. Not automatically. Not magically. Not because every country outside the United States is cheap, easy, safe, gay-friendly, and waiting for American retirees with cocktails.But yes, moving abroad can change the math.If your life costs $7,000 a month in the United States, your financial independence number is one thing. If your life costs $3,500 a month abroad, that is a completely different ballgame.In this episode of Queer Money, we're talking about how moving abroad or retiring abroad can help gay men reach financial independence sooner or more easily.The basic FI formula is simple: spend less than you make, invest the difference, and build enough assets to support your life. But most people focus only on income and investing. They forget the third lever: how much your life actually costs.That's where retiring abroad, moving abroad, or using geographic arbitrage can become powerful.For many gay men, financial independence is not just about earning more or investing harder. It may also be about designing a life where your housing, healthcare, transportation, insurance, taxes, and everyday expenses are dramatically lower, without lowering your quality of life.Takeaways from this episode:How moving abroad can lower your financial independence numberWhy cost of living may be one of the biggest barriers to reaching FIHow geographic arbitrage can help gay men retire earlier or reach financial independence fasterWhy lowering expenses from $80,000 a year to $40,000 a year can dramatically change your FI mathThe difference between retiring abroad after reaching FI and moving abroad to reach FI soonerWhy earning remotely, freelancing, consulting, teaching, or building a global business may support the move-abroad strategyWhy tourist spending is not the same as actually living abroadHow housing, healthcare, transportation, insurance, taxes, and currency risk can affect your planWhy visas, work rules, taxes, healthcare, and community must be researched before movingWhy moving abroad is not escape, but life designWhy gay men should retire by design, not by defaultMoving abroad can help you reach financial independence faster if the numbers, lifestyle, visa, taxes, healthcare, and community all work together.If this episode has you wondering whether moving abroad or retiring abroad could help you reach your financial independence number sooner, grab the Queer Money Retire Abroad Planner and CalculatorRetire by design, not by default.How We Help Folks in the Queer Money CommunityFree guides:Queer Money KickstarterQueer Money 10 Vital Retirement NumbersQueer Money Retire Abroad ChecklistCalculators and Planners:Queer Money Beginner's GuideQueer Money Retirement CalculatorQueer Money Retire Abroad Planner & CalculatorMentioned in this episode:Portugal is calling. Will you answer?Don't just dream of moving to Portugal, make it happen with the investments in your IRA. Investing in Portugal gets you residency, the ability to work in Portugal and returns that just may outpace the U.S. like the Optimize Portugal Golden Opportunities fund did in 2025. Get Your Portugal Golden Visa Here!What if your portfolio came with a visa and passport?That's exactly what the Optimize Portugal Golden Opportunities Fund can do, bringing together diversification, tax efficiency, and a path to EU residency and a passport. Click the link below to explore your ticket to Europe.Get Your Portugal Golden Visa Here!

I get personal in this episode, in order to ask questions about the nature of what is called the “housing crisis.” Are we all just doom-pilling way too much?As a case study, I talk through the life and history of my parents, and discuss whether or not their life and lifestyle is still available today. I discuss house sizes, mortgage rates, lifestyle choices, lifestyle inflation, and more.Find more content on The Messy City on Kevin's Substack page.Music notes: all songs by low standards, ca. 2010. Videos here. If you'd like a CD for low standards, message me and you can have one for only $5.Intro: “Why Be Friends”Outro: “Fairweather Friend”AI TranscriptIntroductionWelcome back to The Messy City Podcast. This is Kevin Klinkenberg. I'm going to do something a little different today and just talk without a guest about the topic of housing in particular and how it ties into a few other kind of hobby courses of mine. Why Challenge the Housing NarrativeReally what I want to spend some time doing is taking a contrarian view of how we talk about the so-called housing crisis. And in one sense, this is kind of fun for me to do. One of the things I really loved about my father is when we would have our discussions or debates in the family about various things that were going on, he would often take an opposite view of Almost just for the sport of it. And the truth is, there are a lot of times he was so good at it, you didn't really know if he felt that way or not. Because he could do really well to argue multiple sides of an argument. And that was really a lot of fun. It was an education for me. It's something I wish more people would just do generally and try to see an issue from multiple perspectives and try to steel man different perspectives or perspectives that are different from your own. And so I've kind of taken to obviously do that if you know me at all.You know I've done that a fair amount in my own life. Not nearly as good as my father was at it, but it has been fun to do occasionally. And I really wanted to apply this to the topic of housing. And there's a couple of reasons for this. And this also ties into a story. I'm going to tell you a little bit of a story about my parents and how they grew up and their trajectory through life, because I think it's actually very relevant to this topic. And whether or not we have a housing crisis at all in America, or if we do, what is the actual nature of of that crisis. And I want to talk about this because I just see so much online and in person conversation that I just feel like there are too many people, especially too many young people that have been kind of doom pilled on life today and life in America generally.And the thing that I want to start out that I really want to propose to everybody and talk about is the life that my parents had And their trajectory through life is still available today. It is absolutely and unequivocally still available to anyone who wants to choose the life that they lived. And in my opinion, obviously, I knew them really well. In my opinion, they had a tremendous life. They had a great life. They've both passed on in recent years. And so I have to talk in the past tense. But by any measure that matters, they had a great life. They lived well into their 80s. They had four kids. We actually all like each other. So it's not just like a, you know, there are some families where you can say, well, I love my family. But as my brother used to say, or after my dad passed, he would say, you know, that... We didn't just love our parents, we really liked our parents.And I think if you're fortunate to be in a family like that, you know a little bit of what I'm talking about. And the four of us as children all... We get along. We're still all friends with each other and get along. We enjoy being together. We're all very different people with different interests and different worldviews. In some senses, we had pretty different childhoods, interestingly enough, because there's a big age spread in our family. So my parents had four kids that they raised. They had a long, stable marriage. They were able to get consecutively better houses as they aged. And then by the time they hit retirement age, they had saved enough money to be able to do other things that they wanted to do. Along the way, they traveled when they wanted to. They really wanted to get out and see the country, see the world.When we were young, that traveling mostly involved just driving around the United States and going to national parks and big cities and seeing the sights. As they got older and had a little bit more disposable income, they would join tour groups and go or sometimes with family to foreign countries and places they really wanted to visit. And I want to give you some context because my parents were not people that grew up with money at all. And I'm going to share some of this because I think it's important to understand. How they came to be where they were and some of the choices they made and how it might impact choices that young people especially could make today.My Parents' StoryMy mom grew up very poor. She spent a part of her childhood living in a housing project in Syracuse, New York. And she was one of five kids and they, you know, her whole childhood they never had any money for much of anything. And they often lived in not the greatest part of town, in Syracuse, even when they got out of the housing project. And my dad grew up in a small town in Kansas called Baser, which is just outside the Kansas City area. But at the time when he was growing up, it was a dusty little town of like 600 people. And, again, one of five kids. And his dad was an auto mechanic, had his own garage, but also just, you know, like people do in Little Towns, did a little bit of everything. He drove a school bus. We helped out with the mail. We did a lot of different things in the town. But it's not like they ever really had any money.My Uncle George, one of my dad's brothers, used to say that they were all poor, but they didn't know it. And part of that is the nature of living in a small rural community. They had a lot of spare time and freedom to roam. And so they probably were able to, you know, occupy themselves with a lot of things that maybe other kids weren't. My mom's father, my mom's parents had a really difficult marriage. My grandfather, her father basically worked in a deli in Syracuse and he And so he worked in a Jewish deli. He was a very, very personable guy, made a lot of his own, made his own corned beef and bagels and everything. And a lot of the customers liked him, but it's not like he ever really made a lot of money. And he and his wife, my grandmother, had a really difficult time, eventually ended up divorcing.And my parents ended up meeting each other in sort of a star-crossed romance that I don't really have time to tell the entire story. But it ended up that they met when my mom was visiting a friend in Leavenworth, Kansas. And... Not too long after that, a romance ensued and eventually a marriage. My parents were born in 1935 and 36, so they're not boomers. They're sort of, I guess, what you would call as greatest generation. But they were too young to be deeply invested in the Great Depression or World War II. They were little kids, really, when all that was going on. So I guess in a sense what you could say is they had the cultural memory of those things. They grew up understanding what life was like in the Great Depression. They grew up poor. They grew up during the war and they knew all that that was going on and they were very well attuned to it, but they weren't part of it.And I think like a lot of people who grew up in that era, they were really affected, especially by the poverty of what was happening. So one of the things that we used to always say about my mom is she could stretch a nickel like anybody's business. She was frugal her entire life. And that really came from growing up with next to nothing. And then for many years... After they were married and started having kids, they were living off basically one salary, not like a big salary or anything, for a long time. And so my mom really had to stretch everything to make ends meet. I'm going to come back to the housing part of this because I think there's some importance to all this.The Housing LadderMy parents got married in 1957, on Christmas Eve of 1957, and then right after that, flew off to Germany. My dad at the time, 21, 22 years old, he had been working a little bit, but he decided he wanted to enlist in the Army, and they spent two years in the Army. He was basically sent off to Germany. And so obviously, you know, late 50s, a great time to be sent off to Germany. No active fighting or anything going on. And they spent two years there. My oldest sister was born in Germany. And then my next sister, I guess you could say, was conceived in Germany. And... And then born back here in the United States when they came back. So by the time they came back to the United States, it's about 1960, and they've got two little kids. And at that time, shortly after they bought their first house, which was in a not so great part of the Kansas City area. It was in Kansas City, Kansas.It was not a terrible area, but not like the greatest. And they bought a small house. And I've had some trouble finding out the exact details in this house, but I think it was probably a two or three bedroom with one bath. It's since been added on to, so it's hard for me to know exactly. But in this period of time, 1960 or so, that would have been their first house. And, you know, my siblings are just going to really... I want to mock my lack of understanding on some of these details, but I think by the time they left that house, my brother had also been born. So there were three kids there. And I want to trace this trajectory a little bit. There's a story here that I think we don't talk enough about that was very common and kind of understood in my parents' era. Which was the idea of buying a small house. New houses were all generally smaller than they are today.There's no question about that. We've had a lot of growth in the average size of houses. So houses were smaller. But it was also kind of understood that you were going to buy... A small house, you were going to build some equity in that, and then you would eventually buy a bigger house. And as you went through the progression of life, as you could afford more, you would buy more. And I'm not entirely sure how... I see a lot more people who are looking to buy their first house who want it all right away. They want that four-bedroom house at the right price, and they're unhappy that they can't get that. I don't want to overgeneralize, but this was something that was really common, certainly in my parents' era. So my dad, after he came back from the Army, he ended up working for a company called Wilson Foods. Wilson Foods was a meatpacking company.So at the time, one of what they called, I think, the big five meatpacking companies that were in the United States that dominated the field was, Wilson's was headquartered in Oklahoma City, but it had plants all over the Midwest. And so he started out as a clerk in the office in Kansas City. So he was on a management track, not on the factory track, but he started at a very entry level position. And then the way it kind of worked in our family and with that company was Again, this was an era where people tended to be a lot more loyal to a certain company. And there was more the idea that you find a good company to work for and you might spend your whole career there. So whenever he wanted a promotion or had the opportunity for a promotion, we typically had to move. So this story is going to sound a little crazy because we moved a lot.And people often thought that we were like a military family, that we were military brats. And we used to say, no, we're not military, we're meatpacking. And of course, people didn't have any idea what we're talking about, but another just little inside joke we had. So I want to talk a little bit as we trace this and think about house size, but also mortgage rates. Because as we talk about housing availability today, especially for sale housing, we're really stuck on the conversation about house size and about mortgage rates. Well, I think it's interesting to look at the trajectory that my parents went through and something very similar to millions of people in that generation today. Went through as they started to move on. So I think it was aboutMortgage Rates in Historical Context1966 or so that we moved to Omaha. Uh, and I went back and I just did some historical, uh, tracking of, uh, mortgage, typical mortgage rates in 1966, the typical mortgage rate was about 6%. So that's really not very far off from where we are today. Uh, depending on what you're looking at today, A lot of the standard kind of 30-year mortgage rates are around 6.5%. It fluctuates from week to week, month to month, but we've kind of been in that zone now for two or three years. And the conversation is very much about how high the mortgage rates are. Um, because we had such a sustained period of very low mortgage rates, such that people like myself, when, uh, we purchased and we, when ultimately refinanced our house in 2021, I think our mortgages, our rate is like 2.75%. So we had millions and millions of mortgages at like 3% or under. And then obviously the rates, uh, went up dramatically.Uh, they went up very, very quickly. Some of the quickest in history. And they've more or less settled into where they are the last two or three years, which is about 6.5%. But again, if you look back historically, one of the stories you can tell is that 6.5% is not like an unusually high mortgage rate. It's just not. You know, I know nobody wants to pay more than, you know... And so why don't I track here, just by way of example, some of the moves my family made. 1966, that more average mortgage rate was about 6%. In 1970, we moved from Omaha to Dell City, Oklahoma, which is a suburb of Oklahoma City. And the average mortgage rates then were closer to 8%. In 1972, we moved to Oklahoma City itself, and the rates came down a little bit, about 7.4%. In and around 1973, then we moved to Overland Park, Kansas, and mortgage rates had gone up again, a little bit more, closer to 8%.In 1975-ish, maybe 76, we moved to Albert Lee, Minnesota, where there was a meatpacking plant that my dad became the superintendent for. So this started an era where mortgage rates were really rough. So in 75, the average rate was about 9%. It went up from there. You know, in 1980, it was over, in 1980, it was almost 14%. 1984, my parents were able to, my dad was able to get a job in Marshall, Missouri. So we left Albert Lee and moved to Marshall. 84, it was still 13.88% average mortgage rate. And then by the end of that decade, 1990 had come down to about 10 and a quarter percent. And then 94, my parents, right around that period where my parents, um, Bought their final house in Lenexa, Kansas in their retirement. They weren't quite retired yet. That's a different story. But in 94, it was about 8%. And so there was a little blip again in 95 or so is about when I bought my first house.That was about eight and a half percent was a typical rate. And then it kind of went on a straight line down more or less from 1995 till about 2021 down to about that three percent rate. And so, again, this is kind of, you know, it's a bit of a long story. But if you can trace these things historically, you can see that the expectation of paying a six, six and a half, seven percent interest rate is just historically not that high. Now, I know historic doesn't matter when you're trying to buy a house today and they're not as much churn in the housing market. But I mean, that's just part of the reality that many, many families paid much higher mortgage rates. Now, what about the houses themselves? Well, this is also interesting. When we lived in Omaha, That's where I was born in 1969. Our house was a three bedroom, one bath ranch with a basement. Um, uh, sort of like a basement playroom.Uh, that was very typical for that era. So there were six of us living in a three bedroom, one bath house. When we moved to Oklahoma, the first house we had was three bedrooms, one and a half baths. And then when we moved to Oklahoma city, again, sort of within the same Metro at that point was our first four bedroom house. So here we are early seventies. Uh, my parents at that point had been married, uh, For 15 years, they had four kids at home. The oldest was now in high school or about high school age. And that was our first four bedroom house. And I think we had two and a half baths in that one. When we moved back to the Kansas City area in 73-ish, we also had a four-bedroom house. So that was a more comfortable kind of a split-level house at that point. And we're getting to the point there where almost all of us had our own bedrooms, but not all of us.I shared a bedroom with my brother in that house. I shared a bedroom with my brother for quite a long time. And when we moved to Minnesota in the mid-70s and then lived there for about eight years, we had a ranch house in Albert Lea. Housing costs everything. I will say this was my parents' experience of living in Minnesota was everything was a lot more expensive than they were used to. You couldn't, in their opinion, couldn't get as much house for your money. The taxes were a lot higher in Minnesota than in other states. The utility costs were higher. And so we had a ranch house that I think had three bedrooms and then it had a finished basement that we finished. And We put a bedroom in the finished basement that would not meet code today. It did not have the proper exiting. But that was something we did. And it was to the point where Minnesota, the winters could be pretty harsh.And so we would commonly close off the family room for the winter in Minnesota and just not use it. We had another room that had a TV where we spent the winter with But again, this is just kind of indicative of the frugal mindset that my parents had. AndLifestyle and FrugalityI want to say that because I think it's important when you're thinking about lifestyle differences in their generation versus today. And I'm not here to pass judgment on anybody necessarily necessarily. But that frugal lifestyle that they lived for many, many years enabled them to have the things that they wanted to have and do the things that they wanted to do. So what are some examples of that? Well, we almost never ate out. So I can barely even remember times as a kid that we would go out to a restaurant. My mom bought generic brands of food. She used coupons regularly. When we took vacations as a family, they were typically driving vacations. And my mom would pack a cooler full of food and we would stop at highway rest areas and eat our meals there. And we stayed in very cheap motels. Sometimes there was camping, not a lot. My mom did not like camping. But...And I'm here to tell you my memories of those trips were great. As a kid, I loved those trips. We would start, you know, for example, in Minnesota and we would drive all the way to the West Coast and we would go to the national parks in Washington State and Oregon and, you know, went to Redwoods National Park in Northern California. Or we would start in Minnesota and we would drive all the way to Disney World and we would hit sites along the way. And to me, those trips were magical and wonderful and a lot of fun. And I think for my parents, they were really great trips as well. But we did things on the cheap. And we just did not waste a lot of money on things. But it didn't stop my parents from Seeing the things they wanted to see and enjoying the things that they wanted to enjoy in life.And today, the term that we have for kind of that approach, because we have to have a term for everything, is FIRE or FI, Financial Independence or Financial Independence Retire Early. And so that's become kind of a thing that quite a number of people have latched onto. Which is terrific. And I'm a big fan of a lot of people in that world. It's also true that that was just kind of the way life was for an awful lot of people of a previous era. And that was just life. I remember my dad telling me one time that they never saved any money or weren't able to save any money until he was about 50 years old. And he had, you know, by the time he was 50 years old, at that point, he'd had decent jobs. And my mom started, she worked when she could in between raising four kids.And so as the kids started becoming more self-sufficient, she was able to work different jobs and bring in some extra money. But yeah, he had told me they really were almost never able to save money until, frankly, we moved back to Marshall, Missouri, and he had a better job. And things were cheaper. They felt like they got a big pay increase when they left Minnesota and moved to Missouri. And so not long after that, then when they were able to retire, even in retirement, even at that point when they had Enough retirement income to rely on. My mom still could never, she just did not have it in her to like overspend for anything. And she still kind of questioned every purchase that she made. But they were also really happy people. It's funny how we have often such a consumerist mindset that we feel like if we're not consuming a lot of things, that means you're not happy.My parents were very social. They had a ton of friends. They stayed in touch with their families, an extended family. And they were just very active, fun, social people. So not being able to spend a ton of money just didn't stop them from doing things. By the time that I was in high school, my siblings were all out of the house. My oldest sister was already married. Teresa was well on her way in her education and career. Dean was also already well on his way in his college education and then later working after college. But I was actually the first one that they were even able to help with a little bit of money for going to college, which of course my siblings gave me a lot of crap about. And would call me spoiled. But that was just the first time that my parents had had enough little extra money to even be able to help any of their kids at that stage.What This Means TodaySo it's just really, to me, a story of living what at that time was a pretty patently kind of common or normal life, which was you buy a small place. Maybe you start in not the greatest part of town. And then eventually you start making more money and you work your way up until you can buy bigger places and nicer places. And I think this is a story we just don't talk about very much. As your family grows, as you grow in your career, you can afford more of a house. I think there's this sometimes doom-pilling that that's just not possible today. I wanted to test this a little bit, and I just did a little bit of playing around on Zillow. Looking at what houses were available that were anything similar to what my parents might have bought as their first couple of houses.Lo and behold, in some areas that are not the nicest, newest, greatest part of town, but not bad areas, you can find those small two and three bedroom houses, at least in my metro area here in Kansas City. For $250,000 to $300,000. And there's nothing wrong with these houses. They're smaller than normal. They're not a big four-bedroom, four-bath house. But they're perfectly livable homes in decent areas. If you want to go to even less fashionable places, you can find that same house. And houses that have been remodeled for under $200,000. So, you know, yeah, you're probably going to deal with higher crime. Maybe the schools aren't, it's not the school district you want to be in, but these are livable houses that are there. And they're also the kind of places like they're not, they're not horrid places to live.Like if you got some of your friends and you all convinced each other to all move to that part of a town, you could, you could make it better by buying these properties, uh, and real estate, um, And, you know, we don't like to talk about this very much as Americans, but the truth is by like global standards, any of these houses are very luxurious. We're all very lucky to live in a place where we could live, where you could own like a two bedroom, one bath house that is modern and nice with great appliances and everything else and complain about it, that you really wish you had more. So anyway, here's a few of the numbers. Just out of curiosity, if you're wondering, if you take like a $250,000 house, if you put 5% down on it, that's $12,500. And if you have a mortgage rate at 6.65%, that's about $2,000 a month with taxes and insurance.So I'm here to tell you that $2,000 a month is cheaper than almost all of the brand new, quote unquote, luxury apartments. That are all over my city that are renting with no problem. And I know they've got a pool and they've got a fitness center, but you're also paying somebody else to live there. You're not building any kind of wealth or equity for yourself. That's the sort of thing, that's the sort of a house that you can easily do on a salary of $80,000 a year, whether it's one person or combined. And by the way, I just, I was curious about this. The average 25 year old in my metro area makes 40,000 bucks a year. So you put two 25 year old salaries together, average ones, that's 80 a year. You can buy that house. And then you can start on that process that is similar to what my parents were on.And so again, I, you know, If you were to tell me, I'm not here today to argue that there aren't changes that need to be made in our cities with our regulatory apparatus or any of that. If you've listened to this podcast at all over the last few years, you know how passionate I am about all of that. I am very much in the camp that the administrative and regulatory apparatus that we created in the 20th century for our cities has failed by every measure. That doesn't mean the people in them are necessarily bad people or dumb or anything like that. It just means that we have, we created systems that just do not work and do not produce good outcomes. And any rational person or group should be able to say, we need to junk that and start over and rethink what we're doing.And so I'm very much in that camp that there's an awful lot of what we created in the 19-teens and 20s in terms of the city planning apparatus and zoning that has been a complete failure. And we need to start over, rethink all that. It's not working. So, you know, I have that as a baseline, but I just don't think so many I don't think especially young people should be so black-pilled on everything or doom-pilled on everything. The opportunities that previous generations had are still available. Now, are they going to be available everywhere in every market for every career path? No. I mean, I get it if you live in really high-cost markets like San Francisco, New York, Seattle, LA, wherever. I have no doubt it's a lot harder. I do think there probably are less fashionable places that people overlook. That would probably be just fine.I have no doubt that that's the case in every city in the country, every region in the country. There are perfectly nice houses, but they're not the newest, most fashionable, cool location. And, and we have had such a lifestyle inflation. We don't want to necessarily go there. I get that. But the truth, the question is, do you want to get there or not? Do you want to start on that path or not? And the other thing I would tie into that is like I've mentioned on multiple podcasts here, let's say that you don't want to do that two bedroom, one bath house. You want something a little bigger. Well, you could also combine it with the house hacking approach, which I have done in my lifetime, multiple times. The first house I bought was actually built as a single family house in the 19 teens. But by the time I bought it, it was actually a triplex. It was one unit per floor.And I lived on one floor and rented out the other two. It was not in great condition. I got it pretty cheap. It was not in the best neighborhood at the time, but I got a good deal on it. I put a lot of sweat equity and work into improving it and was eventually able to sell it for a good profit and move on to the next house, which was much nicer and where I also house hacked. In that case, I had an apartment over the garage, what we call an ADU today, that I finished out as an apartment and I rented that out. And helped offset the mortgage. So there are plenty of ways that you can get creative. You could buy a three-bedroom house and rent a room out to a friend or a family member or somebody else. There are ways that you can leverage house hacking to get into the house that you might want sooner. But the main message I would have is that those things are still possible.Practical AdviceThe basics that enabled previous generations to live a good life in this country are still here. If you have a strong sense of family, if you get educated or have a trade or a skill that is tangible, that is marketable, for example, try not to enter a field of work that is overly academic or philosophical in nature. You need to have a real skill. If you have a good work ethic, If you do get married, stay married. Again, I'm not going to moralize on any of that, but the data is super clear that people who get married and stay married almost always end up in the middle class or better in this country. Make yourself valuable to others, you know, from family to neighbors. Get involved in your community in some fashion, you know, in the real world and Be frugal. Save your money. Don't waste it until you can afford to waste it.And if you have any sense of frugality when you're a younger person and you can put money away in your 20s and 30s, you will get older. And by the time you hit your 40s, 50s, or 60s, you're going to find you're going to have maybe some money, more disposable income, At that point that you can really enjoy and you're still young enough to enjoy it. And health care these days is so good and health science is so good that you should be able to stay healthy for a much longer period of time. Buy a small house, take care of it, and then either add to it or sell it and buy a bigger one when you can. That is part of the process that we just don't talk very much about today. So I think in general, I would suggest let's stay away from, try not to lean too much into doomerism.Regardless of your own personal feelings, you know, how you see the world today or not, focus on yourself, what you can control, and what's possible. And figure out how to create your own life trajectory that is valuable and great for you.What's NextI'm going to tackle a couple other subjects in future episodes. I want to talk a little bit more about how I think the... The administrative and regulatory processes we created over 100 years ago have failed us and what's to be done about that, like what's a different idea or path. And then I also want to touch on a little bit, there's a whole other subject. There's a big part of what we call the housing crisis that is really driven by a series of policy choices we've made for the last 50 years or so. That have really benefited a small number of cities and the professional class in those cities. And it's really hard to uncouple these realities that we have what a lot of people have described elite overproduction today. We have been emphasizing for 50 years to tell everybody to go to college and get a degree, any degree. And I understand why we did that at the time.I went to college and I think going to college to get a degree. To go for higher education and get a really great skill is a great thing to do. But we have a lot of people who went to college and don't really have still very marketable skills or degrees. And they're all kind of following a path that I think they were told to follow by parents and grandparents and counselors, which was go to college, go move to one of these really great cities where there's a lot of jobs for college graduates. And starting your path and what you end up with is you have too many people chasing housing and jobs in too few cities.That has led to a lot of what we talk about as the housing crisis, but there's the flip side of that we don't talk very much about, which I'll also delve into in a future episode, which, in my opinion, is the true housing crisis, and that is that we have too many places in our country that have been in terminal decline for decades. They often are well located neighborhoods. Or well-located communities, but they have been dying. And this proliferation of dying and derelict communities and neighborhoods is really at the heart of a terrible, terrible problem where people are just more bent on trying to figure out survival. Because there's not an economy to attach themselves to that gives hope for the future. So we've got two sides of the same coin with very different concerns.One is we have an awful lot of people chasing a certain lifestyle in a very small number of places that is driving price increases in those places. And then we have actually a much larger number of places that have basically been abandoned. Some that could really have hope for the future and others that there are not great answers for, at least today. And that's a subject that I'll try to tackle a little bit more for a future day. So at any rate, I hope this has been interesting for you. If you've listened to this podcast at all since I've been doing it, you know I actually really enjoy talking about my family and talking with my family members. And I've had my brother and one of my sisters on here before. And I'll be having my brother on again very soon because he's got a new book out that I think you'll be actually very interested in. So that's all for today.I hope everybody's having a good summer and we're dealing with the full breadth of the Midwest heat at the moment, but it'll be over soon and then fall is right around the corner and on into another year. Thanks so much for listening. As always, if you enjoy it, please hit like, leave a review, follow, whatever it is. I am terrible about marketing this podcast since it's something that is basically a hobby for me. But if you enjoy it, please help me out and help spread the word. Thanks so much. Bye. Farewell, farewell with a friend, farewell. Farewell, farewell with a friend, farewell. 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Send us Fan Mail#085.  In this episode, Justin sits down with Lisa Clements, founder of Clear Springs Wealth and a former corporate HR leader at Meta and Accenture, who left a nearly 24-year corporate career to help single women build wealth on their own terms. Lisa brings both professional expertise and lived experience — she's built significant financial independence as a single woman herself, and that perspective shapes everything she teaches.We dig into why Lisa believes girls need the same expectation boys often get by default: get a job in high school, start managing your own money, and make your money mistakes while you're still under your parents' roof — not for the first time in a college dorm. Lisa shares real stories from her own family and clients about what happens when daughters are — or aren't — brought into financial conversations early, including why opening up the family budget at 14 can build confidence instead of anxiety.We also cover:Why Lisa sees "learned helplessness" show up differently in women around money — and how to tell if it's authentic or a self-protective storyThe decision-making frameworks she teaches clients (and her nieces and nephews) for big money choices — the timeline test, the flexibility filter, and the future-self testHow everyday moments — a disputed grade, a tough coach conversation, friend drama — are actually financial advocacy training in disguiseWhat the Stanford marshmallow experiment gets wrong, and what it means for how we build financial patience in kidsPractical, low-pressure ways to start a money conversation with your daughter this weekWhether you're raising a daughter, a son, or both, this conversation offers a clear-eyed look at where financial confidence really comes from — and how small, early experiences with money and self-advocacy compound over a lifetime.Connect with Lisa: Website: clearspringswealth.com Instagram/TikTok/YouTube: @clearspringswealth Email: lisa@clearspringswealth.comShow notes and more at:https://moneydadpodcast.com/session085Support the show

What if crushing your money goals has less to do with finding the perfect formula—and more to do with getting lovingly bullied into taking action today? Bill and Jackie sit down with Bernadette Joy, a first-generation Filipino American who paid off $300,000 of debt in three years, reached her first million, and eventually built a multimillion-dollar portfolio. Bernadette also explains why she believes traditional financial literacy is dead, walks through her C-R-U-S-H framework, and reveals why the final "H" evolved from hustle to healing your money wounds. This episode covers How Bernadette paid off $300,000 of debt and reached her first million The $100-a-day strategy that made an intimidating goal feel actionable Why generating more income only works when you keep and invest the difference How she resisted lifestyle creep while building a seven-figure business Why her paid-off home mattered more emotionally than optimizing every return Her argument that financial literacy should become financial fluency and freedom The five-part C-R-U-SH framework for organizing money and designing an independent life The $1-per-use rule for spending intentionally without guilt How unsubscribing, reducing drama, and creating a peace plan support financial freedom . === SUPPORT  THE  SHOW ===

https://media.blubrry.com/thesuccessfulmindpodcast/ins.blubrry.com/thesuccessfulmindpodcast/TSM736_MDM_Jul4_26.mp3   A financial independence mindset doesn’t start with a bank balance. It starts with a decision, made long before the money shows up, about who you’re going to be when things get uncomfortable. I learned that the hard way, and this episode is where I finally tell the whole story. Financial Independence Mindset: Why Borrowing Becomes a Trap In my teenage years and early twenties, I had zero discipline with money. I was forever hitting people up for a few bucks, two here, five there, until I had a mental list of everyone I owed. I’d promise I’ll get you next week, then borrow from someone else just to pay the first person back. Someone once told me the average person is one footstep away from becoming a criminal, and I was furious hearing it. But when they walked me through it, borrow money, pay people late, ignore what you owe, I realized I was that guy. The Founding Fathers and the Space They Gave Us Two hundred and fifty years ago, a group of men risked their lives to separate from the British Crown, committing treason, knowing they’d hang if it didn’t work. What they won for us wasn’t independence itself. It was the space to go build our own. That distinction matters more than most people realize. You can live in the freest country in the world and still be ruled by fear, debt, or somebody else’s opinion of how you should live. Independence has to be claimed by each of us, individually, every day. Financial Independence Mindset: What I Learned Paying Everyone Back Before enlisting in the army, I decided I’d pay every person back first. So I worked three jobs, McDonald’s at five in the morning, a warehouse shift after, then UPS until two the next morning, and I cleared every debt before I shipped out. Something shifted in me permanently that year. I stopped seeing money as something to scramble for and started seeing it as something earned through decisions, not desperation. That’s the real foundation here: you stop borrowing your way out of discomfort and start working your way through it instead. Stepping Into Your Own Independence This Year Your subconscious will always offer the easier road, another loan, another excuse, another reason it isn’t your fault. But the moment you decide I will not be denied my success, everything starts to move. You don’t need to sacrifice the way our founding fathers did. You just need to make their decision on a smaller scale, and keep making it every day. That’s the difference between hoping things get better and actually building the life you say you want. Nobody hands you that shift. You have to choose it, on purpose, over and over, until it becomes who you are. Episode 717 – Stop Letting Others Think for You Episode 646 – The Importance of Personal Power Episode 28 – Uncommon Ground YOU'VE LEARNED THE STRATEGIES… SO WHY DOES YOUR REVENUE STILL CONTINUE TO PLATEAU?Here’s what I know about most business owners: They’re working hard, doing the right things, and still hitting the same income ceiling year after year. That ceiling has a name — it’s your Financial Set Point. It’s the unconscious limit you’ve placed on what you believe you can earn, and until you see it clearly, it runs the show no matter what strategies you put in place.That’s what we work on at my upcoming Business Intensive in August.  Over two days, I'll help you identify your financial set point, understand why it’s there, and break through it so you can finally earn what you want without the constant struggle and hustle that’s been getting you nowhere.If that sounds like exactly what’s been missing, you don’t want to sit this one out. Apply here to join us. If you like the show, would you be so kind as to leave us a short review on Apple Podcasts? It takes less than a minute and really makes a difference in helping me spread the Successful Mind message around the globe.  LEAVE A REVIEW Check out David's book! Get Your Copy Today! Miss anything? Don't forget to subscribe to the show to keep up with your own successful mindset. We're available wherever you listen to podcasts:   Apple Podcasts Spotify Pandora iHeartRadio Amazon Music Life is Now wants you to get SOCIAL! You can find us on the following platforms:  Facebook X-twitter Instagram Linkedin Youtube The post The Financial Independence Mindset appeared first on The Successful Mind Podcast.

I reached financial independence before 40. I set out to do the impossible, and achieved it. I bought rental properties, worked hard at my job, saved and invested most of my money, and got to my goal. Then I realized something I wish someone had told me—everything I thought I knew about financial independence was wrong.  If you are on this journey to free yourself from your job, retire early, or reach the magic “FI number” that will give you lasting security, I urge you—listen to this episode. While most financially independent influencers constantly stress saving all your money, effort-maxing to extremes, delaying vacations, trips, luxury purchases, or even your wedding, I did the opposite. I spent a lot on my wedding. I spent a lot on nice vacations. I eat out regularly. And sometimes…I just didn't want to buy another rental. But at 39, financially free, I enjoyed my journey to the “goal.” Because the truth is, there isn't a financial freedom number; there's a financial freedom process, and if you don't get it right, it won't be worth any of the effort.  In This Episode We Cover Why (almost) everything you've been told about “financial independence” isn't true The “FI number” trap that so many real estate investors are falling into Are you wasting your life saving all of your money (why Dave says you shouldn't) How to get more financially independent every day, even during bumpy times  The “arrival” fallacy that makes so many retirees actually go back to work  And So Much More! Check out more resources from this show on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BiggerPockets.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠h⁠⁠t⁠t⁠ps://www⁠.biggerpockets.com/blog/real-estate-1305. Interested in learning more about today's sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠advertise@biggerpockets.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Casey Weade is the founder of Howard Bailey Financial, dedicated to helping people retire with confidence and purpose. A nationally recognized retirement planning expert, podcast host, and speaker, Casey specializes in retirement income, tax-efficient strategies, and financial independence, empowering clients to build lasting wealth and live with intention. 3:01 Golf, Mental Toughness, and Handling Adversity 6:29 Goal Setting, Vision, and  Wealth Management Success 8:35 Family, Purpose, and Creating a Life Worth Living 12:55 Financial Independence in Your 20s and Redefining Success 18:17 Remembering What Is True Instead of Chasing More 20:03 Lessons from Nearly 600 Podcast Episodes 23:08 The Story Behind Howard Bailey Financial 26:29 Leadership, Culture, and Scaling a Growing Firm 33:55 Accountability, Expectations, and Conscious Leadership 46:55 Casey's Definition of Mental Toughness 52:10 The Emotional Side of Retirement and Identity 54:24 Why There Is No Finish Line  with Howard Bailey Financial 57:58 Final Thoughts on Purpose, Growth, and Living Fully Don't forget you can also follow Dr. Rob Bell on Twitter or Instagram! Follow At: X @drrobbell Instagram @drrobbell 5 Mental Toughness Advantages for Financial Advisors: https://pages.drrobbell.com/ If you enjoyed this episode on Mental Toughness, please subscribe and leave a review! Dr. Rob Bell

Edward M. Brady, CFA, a realtor and author of Awaken Your Financial Star, explains why high earners still feel financially insecure and how anyone can build lasting wealth using four simple principles: Savings, Time, Assets, and Returns (STAR). Drawing on 25 years as an SEC examiner, Brady shows how to avoid lifestyle creep, spot investment fraud, and treat money as a tool rather than a moral failing. Learn more at https://edwardbrady.exprealty.com/.

#287: Chris and Brad Barrett revisit "Die With Zero" and confront how much harder Bill Perkins' ideas are to live than to agree with. They dig into when frugality flips from superpower to liability, the maximizer's struggle to let go, optimizing for the perfect Tuesday over the once-a-year trip, and giving money to your kids while it still matters. Brad is the co-host of the ChooseFI podcast and co-author of Choose FI: Your Blueprint to Financial Independence. Link to Full Show Notes: https://chrishutchins.com/die-with-zero-revisited-brad-barrett/. Partner Deals Gelt: ⁠Skip the waitlist on personalized tax guidance to maximize your wealth Fabric: ⁠Affordable term life insurance for you and your family Thrive Market: ⁠30% off your first order of organic groceries + a free $60 gift Bilt Rewards: ⁠Earn the most valuable points when you pay rent MasterClass: ⁠Learn from the world's best with 15% off For all the deals, discounts and promo codes from our partners, go to: ⁠chrishutchins.com/deals Resources Mentioned Brad Barrett: Website | X Book: Choose FI: Your Blueprint to Financial Independence Podcast: The ChooseFI Podcast Newsletter: The ChooseFI Newsletter The Tuesday Project Books & Articles Die With Zero: Getting All You Can from Your Money and Your Life The Tail End by Tim Urban The Skill of Spending | Mr. Money Mustache Tools The Big Ass Calendar Copilot Money ATH Podcast Ep #68: Hosting Cocktail Parties, Building Relationships, Museum Strategies and Friends Newsletters with Nick Gray Ep #189: Beyond the 4% Rule: Smarter Strategies for Financial Independence with Karsten Jeske Ep #282: Saving Money and Optimizing is My Kryptonite Ep #285: Why Net Fulfillment Beats Net Worth with Bill Perkins Best Cards Page Newsletter AMA: Submit Questions Leave a review: Apple Podcasts | Spotify Email for questions, hacks, deals, and feedback: podcast@chrishutchins.com Full Show Notes (00:00) Introduction (02:14) Revisiting "Die With Zero" Four Years Later (06:50) Is Intentional Frugality a Superpower? (08:48) Where Chris Still Struggles to Spend (15:04) The Psychology of Spending (19:53) Maximizer vs. Satisficer: What Are You Optimizing For? (23:35) Matching Your Effort to the Season of Life You're In (25:04) How to Let Go When You Want to Do Everything (31:50) Optimizing for Lasting Happiness (37:23) Don't Run Away From What Lights You Up (38:43) What Are You Actually Chasing More Money For? (44:01) What Are You Really Saving For? (45:46) Giving Money to Kids (and Causes) While It Still Matters (50:40) Hedging Retirement Risk by Moving, Not Working Longer (53:00) Fear Wasting Your Life More Than Running Out of Money (57:52) Chris's Vision for a Family Summer Camp (01:02:36) Building a Time-Bucket List of One-Off Dreams (01:03:44) The Case for Doing "Nothing" on a Trip (01:04:23) Chris's Three Main Takeaways (01:06:23) Lowering the Barrier to Real-Life Connection (01:09:55) Defining Net Fulfillment For Yourself Connect with Chris ⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠ | ⁠Membership⁠⁠ | ⁠X⁠⁠ | ⁠Instagram⁠⁠ | ⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠ Editor's Note: The content on this page is accurate as of the posting date; however, some of our partner offers may have expired. Opinions expressed here are the author's alone, not those of any bank, credit card issuer, hotel, airline, or other entity. This content has not been reviewed, approved or otherwise endorsed by any of the entities included within the post. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Get the 200+ Page Optimal Living Daily Workbook (PDF) — Free. Want to turn today's episode into an actionable plan? Join the Optimal Living Weekly newsletter and I'll send you our 200-page digital workbook immediately. It's packed with the best takeaways from the show, formatted for easy reading and implementation at home. Get your free PDF workbook here: ⁠https://oldpodcast.eo.page/join⁠ Discover all of the podcasts in our network, search for specific episodes and learn more at:⁠ OLDPodcast.com⁠. Episode 3627: Fritz Gilbert uses an unexpected source of financial wisdom to reveal a remarkably simple blueprint for building wealth: earn more, spend less, avoid debt, and invest consistently. His breakdown of each principle shows that financial independence doesn't require secret strategies, just disciplined execution of timeless money habits. Read along with the original article(s) here: https://www.theretirementmanifesto.com/alexa-how-can-i-get-rich/ Quotes to ponder: "There is no one guaranteed way to become rich" "The best path to building wealth relies on a combination of expanding your earning potential, spending wisely, avoiding debt, saving money, and investing carefully." "Avoid debt whenever possible, especially credit card debt which carries a high-interest rate." Episode references: Financial Independence, Retire Early (FIRE): https://www.investopedia.com/terms/f/financial-independence-retire-early-fire.asp S&P 500 Index Funds: https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/sp500.asp Individual Retirement Account (IRA): https://www.irs.gov/retirement-plans/individual-retirement-arrangements-iras 401(k) Plans: https://www.irs.gov/retirement-plans/401k-plans Mike Rowe: https://mikerowe.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Get the 200+ Page Optimal Living Daily Workbook (PDF) — Free. Want to turn today's episode into an actionable plan? Join the Optimal Living Weekly newsletter and I'll send you our 200-page digital workbook immediately. It's packed with the best takeaways from the show, formatted for easy reading and implementation at home. Get your free PDF workbook here: ⁠https://oldpodcast.eo.page/join⁠ Discover all of the podcasts in our network, search for specific episodes and learn more at:⁠ OLDPodcast.com⁠. Episode 3618: Claire Wilde shares how panic attacks, overwhelming debt, and an overcommitted lifestyle pushed her to rethink what success really meant. By simplifying her possessions, paying off debt, and embracing a slower, more intentional way of living, she reveals practical steps anyone can take to reduce anxiety and create more freedom and fulfillment. Read along with the original article(s) here: http://everthrive.org/blog/2017/8/12/finding-freedom-and-fulfillment-by-conquering-debt Quotes to ponder: "You are never alone and situations are never helpless." "In life, there will always be drudgery, but make sure you know what your antidotes are." "Build pauses into your day and then guard them fiercely." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It's the first Saturday of the month, which means it's time for the next installment of our 2026 Financial Planning Challenge. Since it's July 4th, we thought it fitting that this month we focus on financial independence – in other words, retirement. How do you know if your retirement plan is on track? And how will you know when you're financially ready to bid adieu to the working world? Fools Robert Brokamp and Stephanie Marini discuss how to find the answers to those questions, including:-Common rules of thumb like the 50-30-20 rule and ye olde 4% rule (and why it should be 5%)-Age-based retirement savings benchmarks from financial-services firms-Free and premium calculators we use and recommend-Getting a professional second opinion from an experienced financial planner who charges by the hour or project (and where to find such a planner)Host: Robert Brokamp, CFP®, EAGuest: Stephanie Marini, CFP®, CRPC®Engineer: Bart Shannon Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

At 21, Cody Berman appeared on ChooseFI as a college student discovering financial independence. Three years later, he retired at 26. Now 30 with a $5 million net worth, he's back to reveal exactly how he compressed a decades-long journey into a three-year sprint—and why the same principles work whether you're 25 or 55. The Journey from 22 to FI at 26 00:05:30 Cody's path to financial independence was methodical and aggressive. Between ages 22 and 25, he experimented with over 20 side hustles, scaling his income from $96K to more than $400K annually. The key? He kept expenses locked at just $24K per year—creating a massive gap of $625K over three years. That gap fueled three wealth-building engines: $500K in stock market investments (VOO, VTSAX, VTI) 13 rental properties generating $3,700/month in passive income Digital products businesses producing $10K/month By his 26th birthday, Cody had achieved "cashflow FI"—his passive income streams covered living expenses without touching his investment portfolio. The Psychology of Financial Independence 00:18:00 Brad and Cody explore why some people achieve FI while others with similar incomes stay stuck. The answer isn't math—it's psychology and awareness. Cody attributes his success to having a clear destination. When you know exactly where you're going and why it matters, spending $100 on something that doesn't serve that destination becomes harder than saying no. The infamous "second marshmallow" experiment demonstrates this: delaying gratification becomes easier when you're aware of what you're trading for. As Cody puts it: "Earn more, spend less, invest the gap. Very simple. That is financial independence in a nutshell." Passive Income Reality Check 00:28:00 Let's demolish the myth of truly passive income. Cody manages 13 rental properties—but spends just 4-5 hours per month on them. This represents the spectrum of passive income: not zero effort, but minimal effort relative to the returns. The secret? Working in seasons rather than constant hustle mode. Some months require more attention (tenant turnover, maintenance issues), while others are nearly hands-off. Cody's businesses also follow this pattern—periods of intense development followed by relative autopilot. Brad reinforces this with math: "Every $100 a month you can cut out of your budget is $30,000 less you need in your FI number." Over 20 years, that $100/month compounds to $60K invested. That's a $90K swing from a single optimization. Designing the Perfect Tuesday 00:42:00 Forget exotic vacations—FI is about winning on a random Tuesday. Cody and Lauren's ideal weekday reveals what financial independence actually looks like: Morning: Wake naturally, coffee together, workout (him: gym; her: Pilates), shower, work on creative projects they enjoy Midday: Lunch together, afternoon walk in their neighborhood, separate time for individual pursuits Evening: Dinner together, reading, quality time before bed Nothing dramatic. No yachts. Just complete autonomy over every hour of a normal day. They maintain this through monthly alignment meetings—typically at a restaurant over a nice meal—covering: Money and real estate Health and fitness Travel plans Relationships (with a safe space to address concerns) Friends and family A rotating category Goals for the next month They also record an annual video reviewing the year, creating a time capsule of their journey. Post-FI Life and the Book 00:58:00 What actually happens when you achieve FI? Cody shares the uncomfortable truth: "Anything that you say that you want to do and that you don't do is a Cody problem. Before FI, you can blame things on time. You can blame things on money." When those excuses disappear, you're left facing yourself. That can be liberating and terrifying. His new book, Retire by Thirty, addresses this and more. Like Tim Ferriss's The Four Hour Workweek, the title is provocative but the principles are universal. Whether you compress your FI journey from 50-55, 33…