Podcast appearances and mentions of Brit Marling

This week, we look at a true indie! Brit Marling's Sound of Voice! Made for a very small budget, Sound of My Voice has big ideas! Brit Marling showed her talent for acting, writing and storytelling as Maggie, the leader of a cult. Join us as we explore this sci-fi classic.

Grab your screenplay and your last shred of optimism, because today we're getting a broader understanding of the AI Invasion of Hollywood… starting with a movie I was excited for—until I wasn't. Uncanny Valley- Natasha Lyonne and Brit Marling are making a movie together- but theyre using an AI studio to make it. What does this mean for the future of film & the consumption of the art?In this episode we're going through the five stages of grief and taking you with us through the uncanny valley of AI filmBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/broads-next-door--5803223/support.

Favorite antihero? Artemis Fowl or Calvin (of Calvin & Hobbes) - Filmmaker/Animator/Illustrator Raman Djafari can't quite decide. We had an extremely fun talk with the multi-hyphenate in our latest #ShortTake episode. About the weirdly great taste of multivitamin tablets, his favorite food – Ghormeh Sabzi, a terrific Toy-Story-Memory and we even had ourselves a wonderful Brit Marling and +TheOA appreciation minute. Enjoy! Find out more about Raman and his latest work: https://www.instagram.com/ramandjafari/ You can find us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/shorttake/?hl=de

“Parish” star and executive producer Giancarlo Esposito talks about how personal the series is for him, and how his grown children have responded to his brutal honesty in recent interviews. He also talks about his always busy schedule and what's next, including Francis Ford Coppola's “Megalopolis.” Also on this episode, Brit Marling discusses “A Murder at the End of the World.” Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dolly'nin orijinine döndüğü bilim sanat podcasti Dollywood'un, Doç. Dr. Berat Haznedaroğlu'nun konuk olduğu 17. bölümü yayında! Yeni bölümde ilk olarak Berat Haznedaroğlu'nun da UzMAn projesiyle dahil olduğu Türkiye'nin ilk uzay araştırmalarını Berat Hoca'nın ağzından dinledik. Daha sonrasında ise I Origins filmini hep birlikte değerlendirdik. Filmde bilim dünyasının iç dinamikleri ele alınırken diğer Hollywood filmlerine kıyasla nelerin doğru yapıldığının yanında gözün evrimini ve iris teknolojisinin ne derece isbaetli şekilde ele alındığını inceledik. Son kısımda ise I Origins'te de altı çizilen bir konu olan bilimsel gelişmelere bilim dünyası ve halkın farklı yaklaşımını yine ülkemizde bol bol tartışılan uzay deneyleri üzerinden değerlendirdik. Mike Cahill'in yazıp yönettiği 2014 yapımı I Origins, gözün evrimsel gelişimini kanıtlamak için yanıp tutuşan bir moleküler biyolog olan Ian'ın hayatını merkezine alıyor. Bilimsel kanıtlara sıkı sıkıya bağlı olan Ian, bir anda hayatına giren Karen ve Sofi ile yaşadığı olayların etkisiyle kendi doğrularını da sorgulamaya başladığı bir yüzleşme içerisine girecektir. Filmin başrollerinde Michael Pitt, Brit Marling, Steven Yeun ve Astrid Bergès-Frisbey yer alıyor. Film hakkındaki yorumlarınızı bekliyoruz.

Brit Marling on ‘A Murder at the End of the World', what her job at a bank taught her about directing, and her love of a Hugh Grant rom-com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Writer/Director/Actor Brit Marling (A Murder at the End of the World, the OA, Another Earth) discusses the portrayal of women in some of her favorite movies with Josh Olson and Joe Dante. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode's Union Town segment (01:03), WGAW member “Jazz” Peck talks with American Federation of Musicians Local 47 President Stephanie O'Keefe about representing musicians in the industry, the power of solidarity, and the magic that both musicians and writers create with their work. Then, WGAW member Aaron Fullerton talks with A Murder at the End of the World co-creator-showrunner-writer and co-star Brit Marling (23:26) about telling stories that blend real emotions with big ideas, the unique pitching process she has with her writing partner, and more.

Jodie Foster and Kali Reis in Alaska in True Detective: Night Country. Juno Temple, Jennifer Jason Leigh, and Richa Moorjani in Minnesota in the recent fifth season of Fargo. Emma Corrin and Brit Marling in Iceland in A Murder at the End of the World. There's something going on with all these TV mysteries set in the frozen, frigid North with all these neo noiry North Country female leads. This hour, a Nose-ish look at what Colin's taken to calling the current "hard-boiled women in cold climates" phenomenon. GUESTS: Melanie McFarland: Senior culture critic at Salon Shawn Murray: A stand-up comedian, writer, and the host of the Nobody Asked Shawn podcast Kat Rosenfield: A novelist, a columnist for UnHerd, and the co-host of the Feminine Chaos podcast; her most recent novel is You Must Remember This Subscribe to The Noseletter, an email compendium of merriment, secrets, and ancient wisdom brought to you by The Colin McEnroe Show. Join the conversation on Facebook and Twitter. Colin McEnroe and Cat Pastor contributed to this show.Support the show: http://www.wnpr.org/donateSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

PopaHALLics #116 "Moviemaking with Mike"Last time we talked about "Extraction USA," it was a trailer for a movie that didn't exist yet. Writer/director Mike Yonts updates us on its progress toward the big screen— an interesting conversation about what it's like to make a movie. Dad and daughter also dish on Britney Spears, Mark Wahlberg, and what we think of each other's faves.Here's the "Extraction USA" trailer. Books:"The Woman in Me," by Britney Spears. Kate has a new appreciation for the pop singer after this memoir. It traces her incredible journey from childhood to international stardom, wild days, and the controversial conservatorship.Streaming:"The Family Plan," Apple +.  In this action comedy,  a suburban dad's family has no clue he's a former skilled assassin. Then the bad guys start showing up. Starring Mark Wahlberg, Michelle Monaghan, Maggie Q, and Ciaran Hinds."A Murder at the End of the World," FX and Hulu. Kate offers her thoughts on this Iceland-set murder mystery previously recommended by Steve. Starring Emma Corwin, Clive Owen, and Brit Marling (who co-created the miniseries)."The Crown," Netflix. Steve weighs on Corwin's turn as the young Princess Diana in the British monarchy series previously recommended by Kate. Also starring Olivia Colman (Elizabeth), Gillian Anderson (Margaret Thatcher) and Josh O'Connor (Prince Charles).

A MURDER AT THE END OF THE WORLD SERIES REVIEW After the abrupt and cruel cancellation of the popular and surreal Netflix sci-fi series The OA in 2019, fans have been waiting to see what the collaborative creative team Brit Marling and Zal Batmanglij would conjure up next. The answer is, Hulu/FX's  A Murder at… Read More »Screener Squad: A Murder at the End of the World

A MURDER AT THE END OF THE WORLD SERIES REVIEW After the abrupt and cruel cancellation of the popular and surreal Netflix sci-fi series The OA in 2019, fans have been waiting to see what the collaborative creative team Brit Marling and Zal Batmanglij would conjure up next. The answer is, Hulu/FX's  A Murder at… Read More »Screener Squad: A Murder at the End of the World

Happy 2024, everyone! To kick the year off, we're talking about Brit Marling's most recent show, A Murder at the End of the World! Because we can't ever resist something from the creator of The OA, y'all. We talk about how We Live In A Society, how this show is both too much and not enough, and about how frickin' hot both Emma Corrin and Harris Dickinson are. Produced by Andrew Ivimey as part of The From Superheroes Network   Visit www.FromSuperheroes.com for more podcasts, articles, YouTube series, web comics, and more.

This week we dive into 2 films and a show. A Murder At The End Of The World, starring Emma Corrin & Brit Marling, who we LOVE! We also watched a crazy documentary about a cult, it's just nuts. Finally, we do a quick recap of Rebel Moon, so there's that. Join Us!! Please visit us on the socials as we'd love to hear from you!https://www.instagram.com/goguerillafilmwww.twitter.com/goguerillafilmgoguerillafilm@gmail.com

Shocking twists reveal the Kill Bill plot on the latest A MURDER AT THE END OF THE WORLD from the creators of 'The OA' Brit Marling and Zal Batmanglij! Across Iceland and the United States, we'll follow Gen-Z detective Darby Hart as they follow several suspects on several streaming platforms: FX, Hulu, Disney+ Plus, Star, Star+ Plus, Hotstar, whatever! We interview Zoomer who may be closer to Andy than Bill! Plus: The Lemonheads' Evan Dando sings his classic hit 'Its A Shame About Ray' Season 1, Episode 7 Chapter 7: Retreat The remaining guests gather and discover the killer among them. 00:00 Intro 00:02 In 'Death By GPS' who's to blame? 00:33 Let's Solve A Murder At The End Of The World 01:32 THANK YOU 01:56 Did you like the final episode? 02:14 What do we want from a Whodunnit? 05:01 What We Got Right 05:36 What I Got Wrong 06:17 How It Could Have Been Improved 08:36 Listeners who solved the mystery! 09:46 Our next Let's Solve cases 11:20 Interview with Zoomer Twitter/Instagram/Threads: @DoublePHQ http://facebook.com/doublephq Podcast music by Matt Murdick #amateotw #amurderattheendoftheworld #britmarling #emmacorrin #harrisdickinson #cliveowen #murdermystery #whodunnit #theoa Directed by Zal Batmanglij Writing Credits Brit Marling ... (written by) & Zal Batmanglij ... (written by) Brit Marling ... (created by) & Zal Batmanglij ... (created by) Cherie Dimaline ... (story editor) & Rebecca Roanhorse ... (story editor) Cast Emma Corrin ... Darby Hart Brit Marling ... Lee Harris Dickinson ... Bill Alice Braga ... Sian Joan Chen ... Lu Mei Raúl Esparza ... David Jermaine Fowler ... Martin Ryan J. Haddad ... Oliver Pegah Ferydoni ... Ziba Javed Khan ... Rohan Louis Cancelmi ... Todd Edoardo Ballerini ... Ray Clive Owen ... Andy Christopher Gurr ... Marius Britian Seibert ... Eva Kellan Tetlow ... Zoomer Neal Huff ... Darby's Dad Otto Penzler ... Author Maria Taylor ... Moderator Jeff Mantel ... Older Man Dave Murgittroyd ... LESDEWIS_07 Eric R. Williams ... Bodega Tom Alexandra Seal ... Gloria Anastasia Veronica Lee ... Darby Age 10 Daniel Olson ... Tomas Karina Arroyave ... Marta Derek Peith ... Medical Examiner Samantha Jones ... Sue Music by Danny Bensi Saunder Jurriaans Cinematography by Charlotte Bruus Christensen Editing by Dylan Tichenor Casting By Avy Kaufman Production Design by Alex DiGerlando #hulu #disneyplus #starplus #hotstar #fx

On today's episode, an interview at the end of a TV show: A Murder At The End Of The World. That's right, Brit Marling and Zal Batmanglij are with us, breaking down every detail of their phenomenal techno-thriller whodunnit, which reached its breathtaking conclusion last night. As we've come to expect from the creators of head-spinning drama The OA – which felt like the signalling of a bold new era of ambitious narrative television when it hit screens in 2016 – A Murder At The End Of The World was a triumph of both ideas and emotion. Few filmmakers today combine both as seamlessly and elegantly as Brit and Zal, whose latest show offered meditations on the following: artificial intelligence, online misogyny, the desensitisation in our culture around violence towards women, extreme wealth, climate crisis, the deification of tech company CEOs… the list goes on. The fact that A Murder At The End Of The World can so smartly probe all those topics without ever toppling in on itself like a house of cards in an Icelandic snow storm is an incredible feat. The fact that all those big intellectual ideas never overshadow the emotion of the show – the journey we go on Emma Corin's courageous hacker Darby Hart – is even rarer. Darby's story, zigzagging across three different periods of her life, is the heartbeat of this tale, about a group of high-achievers and industry leaders invited to a mysterious retreat among the frozen fjords of the Fljot Valley. The aim of this gathering? To solve the challenges facing humanity, its tech billionaire host Andy Ronson explains. A slight snag in that plan emerges, though, when one by one, guests begin to be bumped off in terrifying ways. Only Darby can solve the mystery of the killer's identity.In the conversation you're about to hear, Zal and Brit discuss philosophies behind the show, the world war origins of the whodunit genre, the ethical way to approach violence against women on screen without perpetuating that violence in the real world, and of course, the revelations of the show's final episode. As ever, this is a spoiler-filled interview, so if you haven't watched A Murder At The End Of The World in full, please be sure to catch up before tuning in.Script Apart is hosted by Al Horner and produced by Kamil Dymek. Follow us on Twitter and Instagram, or email us on thescriptapartpodcast@gmail.com.Support for this episode comes from ScreenCraft and WeScreenplay.To get ad-free episodes and exclusive content, join us on Patreon.Support the show

Episode 163 is now live A Murder at the End of the World - Episode 7 “Retreat” Join us as we discuss the finale of FX's thrilling limited series, created by the brilliant team of Brit Marling and Zal Batmanglij. This psychological thriller follows a fascinating cast of eccentric entrepreneurs led by young author and “Gen Z Sherlock Holmes” Darby, played by Emma Corrin. Every episode is full of clues and misdirects that keep the audience on its toes, trying to solve more than one mystery alongside Darby, before it's too late… Check back soon for an announcement on the next show we'll be podcasting! Find us on social media on Instagram @abovethegaragepod and Twitter @ATGTV_Podcast. And as always, we're still creating daily content for our original podcast and passion, The Handmaids Tale on Hulu, so if you like that show, you can find us on Instagram @tht_abovethegarage, Facebook “Above the Garage - The Handmaid's Tale Podcast” and Twitter @AboveGaragePod

Before becoming an entertainment powerhouse, Brit Marling was headed toward the world of investment banking. But during a college internship at Goldman Sachs, her gut told her that finance wasn't the field she should be in. With a desire to tell stories, she soon pivoted into independent filmmaking. In 2011, she made a major splash in the entertainment industry when her films Another Earth and Sound of My Voice premiered side by side at the Sundance Film Festival. Both films were nominated for Independent Spirit Awards and picked up for distribution by Fox Searchlight, and in the years following, Brit went on to create massive hits like The East and The OA. Now, she's evolving her career yet again: In November, Marling made her television directorial debut on the FX murder mystery show Murder at the End of the World starring Emma Corrin. Catch the finale of the series tomorrow, December 19. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Bloody Bill bathes then bolts while Lee comes clean on the latest A MURDER AT THE END OF THE WORLD from the creators of 'The OA' Brit Marling and Zal Batmanglij! Across Iceland and the United States, we'll follow Gen-Z detective Darby Hart as they follow several suspects on several streaming platforms: FX, Hulu, Disney+ Plus, Star, Star+ Plus, Hotstar, whatever! Plus, angry Andy ain't having it! Season 1, Episode 6 Chapter 6: Crime Seen Darby uncovers the secret retreat within the retreat. In the past, she and Bill come face to face with the Silver Doe Killer. 00:00 Intro 00:02 Do you trust Lee? 01:10 Let's Solve A Murder At The End Of The World 02:16 Upcoming Podcasts 04:11 Call to Action 04:38 Victim Profile: Bill Farrah aka Fangs 05:47 Victim: Climate scientist Rohan 06:02 Victim: Doctor/Astronaut Sian 06:18 Suspect: Darby Hart 07:51 Suspect: Andy Ronson 08:40 Suspect: Lee Andersen 08:54 Suspect: Film maker Martin 09:00 Suspect: Robotics expert Oliver 09:51 Suspect: Encryption Ziba 09:53 Suspect: Builder Lui Mei 10:04 Suspect: Venture Capitalist David 10:34 Suspect: Security guy Todd 10:45 Suspect: A.I. Ray 11:00 Suspect: Zoomer 11:11 Feedback 13:14 'Straightforward' Theory 17:12 Time bending Theory Twitter/Instagram/Threads: @DoublePHQ http://facebook.com/doublephq Podcast music by Matt Murdick #amateotw #amurderattheendoftheworld #britmarling #emmacorrin #harrisdickinson #cliveowen #murdermystery #whodunnit #theoa Directed by Brit Marling Writing Credits Brit Marling ... (written by) & Zal Batmanglij ... (written by) Brit Marling ... (created by) & Zal Batmanglij ... (created by) Cherie Dimaline ... (story editor) & Rebecca Roanhorse ... (story editor) Cast Emma Corrin ... Darby Hart Brit Marling ... Lee Harris Dickinson ... Bill Alice Braga ... Sian Joan Chen ... Lu Mei Raúl Esparza ... David Jermaine Fowler ... Martin Ryan J. Haddad ... Oliver Pegah Ferydoni ... Ziba Javed Khan ... Rohan Louis Cancelmi ... Todd Edoardo Ballerini ... Ray Clive Owen ... Andy Christopher Gurr ... Marius Britian Seibert ... Eva Kellan Tetlow ... Zoomer Neal Huff ... Darby's Dad Otto Penzler ... Author Maria Taylor ... Moderator Jeff Mantel ... Older Man Dave Murgittroyd ... LESDEWIS_07 Eric R. Williams ... Bodega Tom Alexandra Seal ... Gloria Anastasia Veronica Lee ... Darby Age 10 Daniel Olson ... Tomas Karina Arroyave ... Marta Derek Peith ... Medical Examiner Samantha Jones ... Sue Music by Danny Bensi Saunder Jurriaans Cinematography by Charlotte Bruus Christensen Editing by Dylan Tichenor Casting By Avy Kaufman Production Design by Alex DiGerlando #hulu #disneyplus #starplus #hotstar #fx

Episode 162 is now live A Murder at the End of the World - Episode 6 “Crime Seen” Join us as we discuss FX's thrilling new limited series, created by the brilliant team of Brit Marling and Zal Batmanglij. This psychological thriller follows a fascinating cast of eccentric entrepreneurs led by young author and “Gen Z Sherlock Holmes” Darby, played by Emma Corrin. Every episode is full of clues and misdirects that keep the audience on its toes, trying to solve more than one mystery alongside Darby, before it's too late… Come back next Tuesday for our finale discussion, the same day as the show drops on Hulu. Find us on social media on Instagram @abovethegaragepod and Twitter @ATGTV_Podcast. And as always, we're still creating daily content for our original podcast and passion, The Handmaids Tale on Hulu, so if you like that show, you can find us on Instagram @tht_abovethegarage, Facebook “Above the Garage - The Handmaid's Tale Podcast” and Twitter @AboveGaragePod

Sleuth swims then sinks, Bill sensuously smells then smokes, while Sian speaks then sleeps on the latest A MURDER AT THE END OF THE WORLD from the creators of 'The OA' Brit Marling and Zal Batmanglij! Across Iceland and the United States, we'll follow Gen-Z detective Darby Hart as they follow several suspects on several streaming platforms: FX, Hulu, Disney+ Plus, Star, Star+ Plus, Hotstar, whatever! Plus, we'll cancel our subscription to the Wall Street Journal! Season 1, Episode 5 Chapter 5: Crypt Darby confronts her suspect only to find the tables turned and an unexpected alliance formed - until someone else dies and her own life is threatened. 00:00 Intro 00:02 Just the Facts, Ma'am 01:42 Let's Solve A Murder At The End Of The World 02:24 Poll Results 03:29 Puzzle Doctor's Blog 04:19 Call to Action 04:49 Victim Profile: Bill Farrah aka Fangs 05:37 Victim: Climate scientist Rohan 05:48 Victim: Doctor/Astronaut Sian 06:11 Suspect: Darby Hart 08:02 Suspect: Andy Ronson 09:16 Suspect: Lee Andersen 10:23 Suspect: Film maker Martin 10:29 Suspect: Robotics expert Oliver 10:47 Suspect: Encryption Ziba 11:09 Suspect: Builder Lui Mei 12:03 Suspect: Venture Capitalist David 12:21 Suspect: Security guy Todd 12:51 Suspect: Eva 12:57 Suspect: A.I. Ray 13:03 Suspect: Marius 13:25 Suspect: Zoomer 13:38 Feedback 16:51 Dream Theory Twitter/Instagram/Threads: @DoublePHQ http://facebook.com/doublephq Podcast music by Matt Murdick The Puzzle Doctor's Murder-Mystery Blog https://classicmystery.blog/ #amateotw #amurderattheendoftheworld #britmarling #emmacorrin #harrisdickinson #cliveowen #murdermystery #whodunnit #theoa  Directed by Brit Marling Writing Credits Brit Marling ... (written by) & Zal Batmanglij ... (written by) Brit Marling ... (created by) & Zal Batmanglij ... (created by) Cherie Dimaline ... (story editor) & Rebecca Roanhorse ... (story editor) Cast Emma Corrin ... Darby Hart Brit Marling ... Lee Harris Dickinson ... Bill Alice Braga ... Sian Joan Chen ... Lu Mei Raúl Esparza ... David Jermaine Fowler ... Martin Ryan J. Haddad ... Oliver Pegah Ferydoni ... Ziba Javed Khan ... Rohan Louis Cancelmi ... Todd Edoardo Ballerini ... Ray Clive Owen ... Andy Christopher Gurr ... Marius Britian Seibert ... Eva Kellan Tetlow ... Zoomer Neal Huff ... Darby's Dad Otto Penzler ... Author Maria Taylor ... Moderator Jeff Mantel ... Older Man Dave Murgittroyd ... LESDEWIS_07 Eric R. Williams ... Bodega Tom Alexandra Seal ... Gloria Anastasia Veronica Lee ... Darby Age 10 Daniel Olson ... Tomas Karina Arroyave ... Marta Derek Peith ... Medical Examiner Samantha Jones ... Sue Music by Danny Bensi Saunder Jurriaans Cinematography by Charlotte Bruus Christensen Editing by Dylan Tichenor Casting By Avy Kaufman Production Design by Alex DiGerlando #hulu #disneyplus #starplus #hotstar #fx

This week we are going backn in the way back machine to 2011 when indie sci-fi was on the in. Another Earth is the film written by director Mike Cahill and star Brit Marling. This film duo makes a gem of a movie about how a tragic accident derails a young girls potential as a mirror Earth is discovered. Enjoy Katie and Darren's discussion on the film.

Episode 161 is now live A Murder at the End of the World - Episode 5 “Crypt” Join us as we discuss FX's thrilling new limited series, created by the brilliant team of Brit Marling and Zal Batmanglij. This psychological thriller follows a fascinating cast of eccentric entrepreneurs led by young author and “Gen Z Sherlock Holmes” Darby, played by Emma Corrin. Every episode is full of clues and misdirects that keep the audience on its toes, trying to solve more than one mystery alongside Darby, before it's too late… Come back next Tuesday for our Episode 6 discussion, the same day as the show drops on Hulu. Find us on social media on Instagram @abovethegaragepod and Twitter @ATGTV_Podcast. And as always, we're still creating daily content for our original podcast and passion, The Handmaids Tale on Hulu, so if you like that show, you can find us on Instagram @tht_abovethegarage, Facebook “Above the Garage - The Handmaid's Tale Podcast” and Twitter @AboveGaragePod

Sian tests out some snow tires, Darby takes a tumble and Bill jumps in the pool without taking a shower first on the latest A MURDER AT THE END OF THE WORLD from the creators of 'The OA' Brit Marling and Zal Batmanglij! Across Iceland and the United States, we'll follow Gen-Z detective Darby Hart as they follow several suspects on several streaming platforms: FX, Hulu, Disney+ Plus, Star, Star+ Plus, Hotstar, whatever! Plus, we'll ask if an android wrote a book! Season 1, Episode 4 Chapter 4: Family Secrets  There's a killer on the loose and nowhere to run with a storm closing in. Darby breaks out of lockdown and discovers the retreat may not be what she thought it was. 00:00 Intro 00:02 Serial Killer? 00:35 Let's Solve A Murder At The End Of The World 01:19 Call to Action 02:34 The Silver Doe Killer 03:09 Victim Profile: Bill Farrah aka Fangs 05:28 Victim: Climate scientist Rohan 06:19 Suspect: Darby Hart 07:07 Suspect: Andy Ronson 08:06 Suspect: Lee Andersen 08:16 Suspect: Film maker Martin 08:24 Suspect: Robotics expert Oliver 08:26 Suspect: Encryption Ziba 08:28 Suspect: Builder Lui Mei 08:44 Suspect: Doctor/Astronaut Sian 11:21 Suspect: Venture Capitalist David 11:30 Suspect: Security guy Todd 11:44 Suspect: A.I. Ray 11:53 Suspect: Zoomer 12:16 Feedback 14:26 Android Darby Theory Twitter/Instagram/Threads: @DoublePHQ http://facebook.com/doublephq Podcast music by Matt Murdick #amateotw #amurderattheendoftheworld #britmarling #emmacorrin #harrisdickinson #cliveowen #murdermystery #whodunnit #theoa Directed by Zal Batmanglij Writing Credits Brit Marling ... (written by) & Zal Batmanglij ... (written by) Brit Marling ... (created by) & Zal Batmanglij ... (created by) Cherie Dimaline ... (story editor) & Rebecca Roanhorse ... (story editor) Cast Emma Corrin ... Darby Hart Brit Marling ... Lee Harris Dickinson ... Bill Alice Braga ... Sian Joan Chen ... Lu Mei Raúl Esparza ... David Jermaine Fowler ... Martin Ryan J. Haddad ... Oliver Pegah Ferydoni ... Ziba Javed Khan ... Rohan Louis Cancelmi ... Todd Edoardo Ballerini ... Ray Clive Owen ... Andy Christopher Gurr ... Marius Britian Seibert ... Eva Kellan Tetlow ... Zoomer Neal Huff ... Darby's Dad Otto Penzler ... Author Maria Taylor ... Moderator Jeff Mantel ... Older Man Dave Murgittroyd ... LESDEWIS_07 Eric R. Williams ... Bodega Tom Alexandra Seal ... Gloria Anastasia Veronica Lee ... Darby Age 10 Daniel Olson ... Tomas Karina Arroyave ... Marta Derek Peith ... Medical Examiner Samantha Jones ... Sue Music by Danny Bensi Saunder Jurriaans Cinematography by Charlotte Bruus Christensen Editing by Dylan Tichenor Casting By Avy Kaufman Production Design by Alex DiGerlando #hulu #disneyplus #starplus #hotstar #fx

Episode 160 is now live A Murder at the End of the World - Episode 4 “Family Secrets” Join us as we discuss FX's thrilling new limited series, created by the brilliant team of Brit Marling and Zal Batmanglij. This psychological thriller follows a fascinating cast of eccentric entrepreneurs led by young author and “Gen Z Sherlock Holmes” Darby, played by Emma Corrin. Every episode is full of clues and misdirects that keep the audience on its toes, trying to solve more than one mystery alongside Darby, before it's too late… Come back next Tuesday for our Episode 5 discussion, the same day as the show drops on Hulu. Find us on social media on Instagram @abovethegaragepod and Twitter @ATGTV_Podcast. And as always, we're still creating daily content for our original podcast and passion, The Handmaids Tale on Hulu, so if you like that show, you can find us on Instagram @tht_abovethegarage, Facebook “Above the Garage - The Handmaid's Tale Podcast” and Twitter @AboveGaragePod

In today's episode of Bingeworthy, our TV and streaming podcast host Mike DeAngelo attempts to find out whodunit in Hulu's new series, “A Murder at the End of the World.” The series follows a young amateur sleuth (Emma Corrin) who is unexpectedly brought to Iceland and finds herself at the center of a dark, tense, winding murder mystery. The show also stars Clive Owen, Brit Marling, Harris Dickinson, Alice Braga,  Raúl Esparza, and more. LISTEN: ‘Monarch': Director Matt Shakman Talks The MonsterVerse Series, Working With Marvel, ‘Star Trek 4' & More [Bingeworthy Podcast] Joining Bingeworthy to discuss the seven-episode series is one of its stars, Harris Dickinson (“Triangle of Sadness," “The King's Man” “Where the Crawdads Sing"). During the chat, Dickinson talks about what led him to choose the murder mystery as his next project. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/theplaylist/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/theplaylist/support

Hey Y'all! Tune in to our episode 3 discussion of A Murder at the End of the World - another guaranteed banger by Brit Marling and Zal Batmanglij! In this episode we discuss all kinds of theories like whether Ray could be a bad gAI (guy - AI), could little Zoomer be the killer?!, who was Rohan working with!!! Who's to say! Come chat theories with us on our Discord, lets be friends! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hey Y'all! Tune in to our episode 3 discussion of A Murder at the End of the World - another guaranteed banger by Brit Marling and Zal Batmanglij! In this episode we discuss all kinds of theories like whether Ray could be a bad gAI (guy - AI), could little Zoomer be the killer?!, who was Rohan working with!!! Who's to say! Come chat theories with us on our Discord, lets be friends!

Darby is given an A.R. Helmet and say "OK Zoomer" on the latest A MURDER AT THE END OF THE WORLD by the creators of 'The OA' Brit Marling and Zal Batmanglij! Across Iceland and the United States, we'll follow Gen-Z detective Darby Hart as they follow several suspects on several streaming platforms: FX, Hulu, Disney+ Plus, Star, Star+ Plus, Hotstar, whatever! Plus, each week we'll talk about a Killer A.I. theories on Bill/Fangs' and Rohan's murderer! Season 1, Episode 3 Chapter 3: Survivors Darby plays the role of the perfect guest in order to covertly investigate the crime. She finds she may be getting closer to the truth when another life is taken. 00:00 Intro 00:02 Was the phone call real? 00:30 Let's Solve A Murder At The End Of The World 02:10 The Silver Doe Killer 02:50 Victim Profile: Bill Farrah aka Fangs 06:38 Suspect: Darby Hart 08:06 Suspect: Andy Ronson 09:16 Suspect: Lee Andersen 10:47 Suspect: Film maker Martin 10:56 Suspect: Robotics expert Oliver 11:26 Suspect: Encryption Ziba 11:52 Suspect: Builder Lui Mei 12:06 Suspect: Doctor/Astronaut Sian 12:24 Suspect: Venture Capitalist David 12:39 Suspect: Climate scientist Rohan 14:05 Suspect: Security guy Todd 14:13 Suspect: A.I. Ray 14:47 Suspect: Zoomer 15:17 Waiter Tomas 15:28 Feedback 19:40 Killer A.I. Theory Directed by Zal Batmanglij Writing Credits Brit Marling ... (written by) & Zal Batmanglij ... (written by) Melanie Marnich ... (writen by) Brit Marling ... (created by) & Zal Batmanglij ... (created by) Cherie Dimaline ... (story editor) & Rebecca Roanhorse ... (story editor) Cast Emma Corrin ... Darby Hart Brit Marling ... Lee Harris Dickinson ... Bill Alice Braga ... Sian Joan Chen ... Lu Mei Raúl Esparza ... David Jermaine Fowler ... Martin Ryan J. Haddad ... Oliver Pegah Ferydoni ... Ziba Javed Khan ... Rohan Louis Cancelmi ... Todd Edoardo Ballerini ... Ray Clive Owen ... Andy Christopher Gurr ... Marius Britian Seibert ... Eva Kellan Tetlow ... Zoomer Neal Huff ... Darby's Dad Otto Penzler ... Author Maria Taylor ... Moderator Jeff Mantel ... Older Man Dave Murgittroyd ... LESDEWIS_07 Eric R. Williams ... Bodega Tom Alexandra Seal ... Gloria Anastasia Veronica Lee ... Darby Age 10 Daniel Olson ... Tomas Karina Arroyave ... Marta Music by Danny Bensi Saunder Jurriaans Cinematography by Charlotte Bruus Christensen Editing by Dylan Tichenor Casting By Avy Kaufman Production Design by Alex DiGerlando #hulu #disneyplus #starplus #hotstar #fx

Brit Marling is an inspiration. The talented multi-hypenate became an indie darling in 2011 with “Another Earth” and “Sound of My Voice”—collaborations with Mike Cahill and Zal Batmanglij respectively. She avoided various vapid roles and unfulfilling career paths and instead went on to star in (and co-create with Batmanglii) the hit Netflix series “The OA,” which was bafflingly cancelled after two seasons, despite a rabid and large fan base. The two are back with another series, “A Murder At The End of The World”—a cool Zoomer detective whodunit set in a remote super-hotel in Iceland. On this episode, she talks about how knowing she will have to play a character affects the writing process, the “shared loneliness” of collaboration, using AI as a story element before the world even knew it existed, why she has to hold on to her character during the editing process, the cosmic concoction she uses to make her ideas grow, and much more. Back To One is the in-depth, no-nonsense, actors-on-acting podcast from  Filmmaker Magazine. In each episode, host Peter Rinaldi invites one working actor to do a deep dive into their unique process, psychology, and approach to the craft.  Follow Back To One on Instagram

Episode 159 is now live A Murder at the End of the World - Episode 3 “Survivors” Join us as we discuss FX's thrilling new limited series, created by the brilliant team of Brit Marling and Zal Batmanglij. This psychological thriller follows a fascinating cast of eccentric entrepreneurs led by young author and “Gen Z Sherlock Holmes” Darby, played by Emma Corrin. Every episode is full of clues and misdirects that keep the audience on its toes, trying to solve more than one mystery alongside Darby, before it's too late… Come back next Tuesday for our Episode 4 discussion, the same day as the show drops on Hulu. Find us on social media on Instagram @abovethegaragepod and Twitter @ATGTV_Podcast. And as always, we're still creating daily content for our original podcast and passion, The Handmaids Tale on Hulu, so if you like that show, you can find us on Instagram @tht_abovethegarage, Facebook “Above the Garage - The Handmaid's Tale Podcast” and Twitter @AboveGaragePod

Darby calls it "murder" while Andy calls it 'O.D.' Who's right? A MURDER AT THE END OF THE WORLD by the creators of 'The OA' Brit Marling and Zal Batmanglij! Across Iceland and the United States, we'll follow Gen-Z detective Darby Hart as they follow several suspects on several streaming platforms: FX, Hulu, Disney+ Plus, Star, Star+ Plus, Hotstar, whatever! Plus, each week we'll talk all the Audition theories on Bill/Fangs' murderer!  Season 1, Episode 2 Chapter 2: The Silver Doe Darby believes the death she witnessed may, in fact, be murder, but no one believes her. The grief and shock of the events thrust her into remembering her own buried past. 00:00 Intro 00:02 Hallway Video Mystery 00:31 Let's Solve A Murder At The End Of The World 01:28 Who did Andy invite? Who did Lee invite? 02:23 How to reach out 03:04 Victim Profile: Bill Farrah aka Fangs 06:40 Suspect: Darby Hart 09:11 Suspect: Andy Ronson 10:18 Suspect: Lee Andersen 11:05 Suspect: Film maker Martin 11:21 Suspect: Robotics expert Oliver 11:25 Suspect: Encryption Ziba 11:49 Suspect: Builder Lui Mei 11:52 Suspect: Doctor/Astronaut Sian 12:27 Suspect: Venture Capitalist David 12:46 Suspect: Climate scientist Rohan 13:01 Suspect: Security guy Todd 13:11 Suspect: Eva 13:24 Suspect: A.I. Ray 13:57 Suspect: Hotel manager Marius 14:04 Suspect: Zoomer 14:42 Feedback 17:16 The 'Audition' Theories Twitter/Instagram/Threads: @DoublePHQ http://facebook.com/doublephq Podcast music by Matt Murdick #amateotw #amurderattheendoftheworld #britmarling #emmacorrin #harrisdickinson #cliveowen #murdermystery #whodunnit #theoa Directed by Brit Marling Writing Credits Brit Marling ... (written by) & Zal Batmanglij ... (written by) Melanie Marnich ... (writen by) Rebecca Roanhorse ... (written by) Brit Marling ... (created by) & Zal Batmanglij ... (created by) Cherie Dimaline ... (story editor) & Rebecca Roanhorse ... (story editor) Cast Emma Corrin ... Darby Hart Brit Marling ... Lee Harris Dickinson ... Bill Alice Braga ... Sian Joan Chen ... Lu Mei Raúl Esparza ... David Jermaine Fowler ... Martin Ryan J. Haddad ... Oliver Pegah Ferydoni ... Ziba Javed Khan ... Rohan Louis Cancelmi ... Todd Edoardo Ballerini ... Ray Clive Owen ... Andy Christopher Gurr ... Marius Britian Seibert ... Eva Kellan Tetlow ... Zoomer Neal Huff ... Darby's Dad Otto Penzler ... Author Maria Taylor ... Moderator Jeff Mantel ... Older Man Dave Murgittroyd ... LESDEWIS_07 Eric R. Williams ... Bodega Tom Alexandra Seal ... Gloria Anastasia Veronica Lee ... Darby Age 10 Music by Danny Bensi Saunder Jurriaans Cinematography by Charlotte Bruus Christensen Editing by Dylan Tichenor Casting By Avy Kaufman Production Design by Alex DiGerlando #hulu #disneyplus #starplus #hotstar #fx

For more than a decade, actor and writer Brit Marling has made futuristic work that reveals truths about our disquieting present. Her latest endeavor, A Murder At the End of the World, is no exception. We recently sat with Marling in front of a live audience as part of this year's On Air Fest LA Annex, where we discussed her excellent new show on FX (8:34), the role artificial intelligence may play in the future of filmmaking (14:26), and where she first fell in love with science fiction (20:35). Then, Brit reflects on her winding path at Goldman Sachs and Georgetown (23:40), where she met longtime collaborators Zal Batmanglij and Mike Cahill (25:25) that would eventually result in films like Another Earth and Sound of My Voice (36:18). On the back-half, we speak on the power of collective action (41:30), the public outcry that followed the cancellation of The OA (45:15), the state of Hollywood (51:12), and why Brit was inspired to direct (57:00) upon finding a passage from the late Polish auteur, Krzysztof Kieślowski (57:35). You can listen to our 2019 conversation with Marling here. For questions, comments, or to join our mailing list, drop me a line at sf@talkeasypod.com.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We are beyond excited to be covering Brit Marling & Zal Batmanglij's (writers of "The OA") new Hulu show "A Murder at the End of the World". Nothing makes for better mystery tv than a classic Who Dunnit? and this show is no exception. On this podcast, we breakdown the first two episodes while throwing the most tinfoily of tinfoil theories on the board. If you would like to join in on the conversation, our growing discord is linked below! Discord: https://discord.com/channels/883385972832763955/1174781762921058424 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Andy and Axel dive into this surreal, techno filled FX on HULU murder mystery from Brit Marling and Zal Batmanglij! We cover episodes 1 and 2 on this episode. Check out all of our shows at: DVRPodcast.com Get tons of ad–free exclusive pods and an archive of all our pods at  Patreon.com/DVR We would love to hear from you! Email us at DVRPodcast@gmail.com Thanks to Dave for the music: https://invisibletoengines.bandcamp.com/releases Join … Continue reading "Murder at the End of The World Episodes 1 and 2"

We are beyond excited to be covering Brit Marling & Zal Batmanglij's (writers of "The OA") new Hulu show "A Murder at the End of the World". Nothing makes for better mystery tv than a classic Who Dunnit? and this show is no exception. On this podcast, we breakdown the first two episodes while throwing the most tinfoily of tinfoil theories on the board. If you would like to join in on the conversation, our growing discord is linked below! If you are listening to this on our side A Murder at the End of the World channel, please check out our main channel BingetownTV if you are looking for more coverage of your favorite TV content! Discord: https://discord.com/channels/883385972832763955/1174781762921058424

We're on the hunt for the killer in the new murder-mystery A MURDER AT THE END OF THE WORLD by the creators of 'The OA' Brit Marling and Zal Batmanglij! Across Iceland and the United States, we'll follow Gen-Z detective Darby Hart as they follow several suspects on several streaming platforms: FX, Hulu, Disney+ Plus, Star, Star+ Plus, Hotstar, whatever!  Plus, each week we'll talk all the killer theories on Bill/Fangs' murderer! Was Bill's murder an A.I. projection? Is little Zoomer a robot? Season 1, Episode 1 Chapter 1: Homme Fatale An amateur sleuth receives a mysterious invitation to a reclusive tech billionaire's secret retreat. Twitter/Instagram/Threads: @DoublePHQ http://facebook.com/doublephq Podcast music by Matt Murdick Directed by Brit Marling Writing Credits Brit Marling ... (written by) & Zal Batmanglij ... (written by) Brit Marling ... (created by) & Zal Batmanglij ... (created by) Cherie Dimaline ... (story editor) & Rebecca Roanhorse ... (story editor) Cast Emma Corrin ... Darby Hart Brit Marling ... Lee Harris Dickinson ... Bill Alice Braga ... Sian Joan Chen ... Lu Mei Raúl Esparza ... David Jermaine Fowler ... Martin Ryan J. Haddad ... Oliver Pegah Ferydoni ... Ziba Javed Khan ... Rohan Louis Cancelmi ... Todd Edoardo Ballerini ... Ray Clive Owen ... Andy Christopher Gurr ... Marius Britian Seibert ... Eva Kellan Tetlow ... Zoomer Neal Huff ... Darby's Dad Otto Penzler ... Author Maria Taylor ... Moderator Jeff Mantel ... Older Man Dave Murgittroyd ... LESDEWIS_07 Eric R. Williams ... Bodega Tom Alexandra Seal ... Gloria Music by Danny Bensi Saunder Jurriaans Cinematography by Charlotte Bruus Christensen Editing by Dylan Tichenor Casting By Avy Kaufman Production Design by Alex DiGerlando #amateotw #amurderattheendoftheworld #britmarling #emmacorrin #harrisdickinson #cliveowen #murdermystery #whodunnit #theoa

Episode 158 is now live A Murder at the End of the World - Episode 2 “The Silver Doe” Join us as we discuss FX's thrilling new limited series, created by the brilliant team of Brit Marling and Zal Batmanglij. This psychological thriller follows a fascinating cast of eccentric entrepreneurs led by young author and “Gen Z Sherlock Holmes” Darby, played by Emma Corrin. Every episode is full of clues and misdirects that keep the audience on its toes, trying to solve more than one mystery alongside Darby, before it's too late… Come back next Tuesday for our Episode 3 discussion, the same day as the show drops on Hulu. Find us on social media on Instagram @abovethegaragepod and Twitter @ATGTV_Podcast. And as always, we're still creating daily content for our original podcast and passion, The Handmaids Tale on Hulu, so if you like that show, you can find us on Instagram @tht_abovethegarage, Facebook “Above the Garage - The Handmaid's Tale Podcast” and Twitter @AboveGaragePod

Join us as we discuss FX's thrilling new limited series, created by the brilliant team of Brit Marling and Zal Batmanglij. This psychological thriller follows a fascinating cast of eccentric entrepreneurs led by young author and “Gen Z Sherlock Holmes” Darby, played by Emma Corrin. Every episode is full of clues and misdirects that keep the audience on its toes, trying to solve more than one mystery alongside Darby, before it's too late…Come back tomorrow for our Episode 2 discussion, and beginning next week, our podcast will drop every Tuesday, the same day as the show drops on Hulu.Find us on social media on Instagram @abovethegaragepod and Twitter @ATGTV_Podcast. And as always, we're still creating daily content for our original podcast and passion, The Handmaids Tale on Hulu, so if you like that show, you can find us on Instagram @tht_abovethegarage, Facebook “Above the Garage - The Handmaid's Tale Podcast” and Twitter @AboveGaragePod

It's a BUMPER show this week so you might want to block out a good chunk of time for this one (sorry!). Because to celebrate the return of The Lazarus Project on Sky, Joe Barton dropped by the studio to join James, Boyd and Kay as a special guest host. But that's not all, because Brit Marling also pops up, talking to Boydy about her new whodunnit, Disney+'s A Murder At The End Of The World. Plus we get our kaiju on with Monarch: Legacy Of Monsters on Apple TV+ and find a shitload of cocaine on a beach with Daisy Haggard and Patterson Joseph in Boat Story on the BBC.

Axel and Andy dissect each episode of this amazing FX on HULU series created by Brit Marling and Zal Batmanglij. Get tons of ad–free exclusive pods and an archive of all our pods at  Patreon.com/DVR We would love to hear from you! Email us at DVRPodcast@gmail.com Thanks to Dave for the music: https://invisibletoengines.bandcamp.com/releases Join our Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/DailyDVR Check out our friend Mike on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/c/OneMike

Actress, Screenwriter, and now Director, Brit Marling, speaks candidly with W Magazine's Editor-at-Large, Lynn Hirschberg, about a peculiar acting coach in Los Angeles, working on set, the radically feminine works of photographer Francesca Woodman, the cancellation of her first show, The OA, and a powerful lightning storm that left Marling feeling inspired. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/wmagazine/message

Disney spent 350 million making the pretty-fun Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny, and 288 million making the downright awful Black Widow.  But even though the combined budget of tonight's double feature wouldn't have covered craft service for those movies, each packed to the brim with incredible concepts and beautiful images.  Join us as we talk about Gareth Edwards' Monsters and Brit Marling's Another Earth!

Sometimes it feels like all there is to do and think about is work. In Canada, our lives and identities are so tied up in our jobs that I can't help but wonder, "who are you outside of capitalism?" This episode talks about capitalism, intuition and desire. It also pulls on themes from my first zine "Oh to be A Cow Resting in the Green" where I talk about how shitty it feels to be beholden to capitalism and how to imagine a more fulfilling life. P.S. You can watch Sam Jones' "Off Camera" interview with Brit Marling here.

Η φθινοπωρινή τηλεοπτική σεζόν είναι σε πλήρη εξέλιξη, παρά τις απώλειες λόγω των απεργιών των σεναριογράφων και των ηθοποιών που έχουν παραλύσει το Χόλιγουντ από την περασμένη άνοιξη. Το POP για τις Δύσκολες Ώρες διαλέγει τις πιο πολλά υποσχόμενες νέες σειρές, αλλά και κάμποσες από αυτές που επιστρέφουν και ανυπομονούμε για τη συνέχειά τους. Από σειρές τρόμου και sitcom revivals, μέχρι επιστημονική φαντασία και μεταφορές βραβευμένων βιβλίων, αυτές είναι οι σειρές που θα δούμε οπωσδήποτε αυτό το φθινόπωρο. Πώς διαμορφώνεται αυτή τη στιγμή το τοπίο στο Χόλιγουντ λόγω των απεργιών και τι πολύ σημαντικό πέτυχαν οι σεναριογράφοι που θα βοηθήσει σίγουρα και τον αγώνα των ηθοποιών; Γιατί η Fran Drescher της Νταντάς Αμέσου Δράσεως είναι η ιδανική καπετάνισσα για τη μάχη των ηθοποιών και ποιος σεναριογράφος αξίζει ειδικό shout-out γιατί κερνούσε εδώ και μήνες πρωινό τους απεργούς; Γιατί ενθουσιαζόμαστε με την επιστροφή του Mike Flanagan στις σειρές τρόμου του Netflix, γιατί δεν θα σταματήσουμε να βλέπουμε ό,τι φτιάχνει η Brit Marling και πώς μπορεί να μοιάζει σήμερα το revival του Frasier; Επίσης, τι θα ζήσουμε με τον Mel Gibson στη spin-off σειρά του John Wick, το The Continental, γιατί ανανεώνεται η όρεξή μας για το Fargo, ποιο anime μάς έχει κερδίσει με τη φανταστική του ιδέα, και τι θέλουμε να δούμε από τον Mark Ruffalo στη μετα-Marvel εποχή του; Αυτά και πολλά ακόμη στο POP για τις Δύσκολες Ώρες της εβδομάδας!

Seriah is joined by Adam Sayne and Nevaeh. Topics include Katie of the Night, Spiritualism, personal experiences and family history, Indigenous legendary beings, a weird experience by an old church, a relative's ghost stories, wendigos, skinwalkers, a strange encounter with a fox, bizarre experiences with deer, albino deer, strange screams coming from the woods, an encounter with a weird Rake-like entity, strange animal sounds, a prank during a horror movie, working in a funeral home, Seriah's electrical incidents, age and paranormal encounters, children who remember past lives, “Soul Survivor” by Bruce and Andrea Leininger, Professor Jim B. Tucker's work studying reincarnation, strange statements by small children, past life regression, hypnosis and its value and drawbacks, a hypnotically recalled past life, Julia Assante and past lives, Seriah knocks out the power to a city block, Sarah Lee Black, “The OA” TV series, Brit Marling, “I Origins” movie, religion and spirituality, Joshua Cutchin and the Fae, Jacques Vallee's “Passport to Magonia”, wrongly interpreted phenomena, categorization in the paranormal, Mollie Fancher and the “fasting girls” of Victorian times, 1800's medical practices, “Station to Station” podcast, Edgar Cayce, Jane Roberts, Indian Fakirs, astral projection, the Men In Black, Albert K. Bender, Gray Barker, Allen Greenfield, “Nevaeh's Nightmare” YouTube channel, Giulia Tofana and poison, H.H. Holmes, a mannequin in Mexico that may be an actual corpse, the “boy in the box” murder case, the Dover Demon, Strange Realities conference 2023, and much more! A ton of unique material gets covered in this fascinating discussion!Nevaeh's channel can be found at: https://www.youtube.com/@nevaehsnightmare1530This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/4656375/advertisement

Seriah is joined by Adam Sayne and Nevaeh. Topics include Katie of the Night, Spiritualism, personal experiences and family history, Indigenous legendary beings, a weird experience by an old church, a relative's ghost stories, wendigos, skinwalkers, a strange encounter with a fox, bizarre experiences with deer, albino deer, strange screams coming from the woods, an encounter with a weird Rake-like entity, strange animal sounds, a prank during a horror movie, working in a funeral home, Seriah's electrical incidents, age and paranormal encounters, children who remember past lives, “Soul Survivor” by Bruce and Andrea Leininger, Professor Jim B. Tucker's work studying reincarnation, strange statements by small children, past life regression, hypnosis and its value and drawbacks, a hypnotically recalled past life, Julia Assante and past lives, Seriah knocks out the power to a city block, Sarah Lee Black, “The OA” TV series, Brit Marling, “I Origins” movie, religion and spirituality, Joshua Cutchin and the Fae, Jacques Vallee's “Passport to Magonia”, wrongly interpreted phenomena, categorization in the paranormal, Mollie Fancher and the “fasting girls” of Victorian times, 1800's medical practices, “Station to Station” podcast, Edgar Cayce, Jane Roberts, Indian Fakirs, astral projection, the Men In Black, Albert K. Bender, Gray Barker, Allen Greenfield, “Nevaeh's Nightmare” YouTube channel, Giulia Tofana and poison, H.H. Holmes, a mannequin in Mexico that may be an actual corpse, the “boy in the box” murder case, the Dover Demon, Strange Realities conference 2023, and much more! A ton of unique material gets covered in this fascinating discussion! Nevaeh's channel can be found at: https://www.youtube.com/@nevaehsnightmare1530 - Recap by Vincent Treewell of The Weird Part Podcast Outro Music is Black Eyes from David Wirsig Download

Today I'm talking to Hillary Rea about finding your core story and your superpowers and how you can use them in your storytelling. Hillary Rea is the founder of Tell Me A Story, a communication consulting and coaching business that trains ambitious leaders who want to take up more space, communicate with impact, and become more confident as they become more visible. Through her company's signature Crafting Your Narrative: Solo Retreat, as well as ongoing coaching partnerships, Hillary helps her clients to find their voice and then empowers them to use it — by sharing their unique stories with honesty and passion. She is an award-winning storyteller, and has been telling her own stories on stage for 13 years - as a performer, as the host of a the long-running Tell Me A Story Live Show, and now as a keynote speaker. When Hillary first reached out to me to ask if she could come and speak about Storytelling on my podcast I thought "another Storytelling expert". But then I read further and started to really appreciate her radically different approach to storytelling. And you know how much we like 'radically different' on the Humane Marketing Show. In this episode, you'll learn about finding your core story and your superpowers as well as... How storytelling helps you identify your superpowers Hillary's reframe of the 'Origin Story' Her take on the Hero's Journey storytelling structure The concept of 'taking up space' with your story And so much more Hillary's Resources Hillary's Website The Speak Up Session - A free monthly session with Hillary The Speak Up: Be a Dentist Other resources mentioned: NY Times essay by Brit Marling Connect with Laura on: LinkedIn Sarah's Resources Watch this episode on Youtube (FREE) Sarah's One Page Marketing Plan (FREE) Sarah Suggests Newsletter (FREE) The Humane Business Manifesto (FREE) Gentle Confidence Mini-Course Marketing Like We're Human - Sarah's book The Humane Marketing Circle Authentic & Fair Pricing Mini-Course Podcast Show Notes We use Descript to edit our episodes and it's fantastic! Email Sarah at sarah@sarahsantacroce.com Thanks for listening! After you listen, check out Humane Business Manifesto, an invitation to belong to a movement of people who do business the humane and gentle way and disrupt the current marketing paradigm. You can download it for free at this page. There's no opt-in. Just an instant download. Are you enjoying the podcast? The Humane Marketing show is listener-supported—I'd love for you to become an active supporter of the show and join the Humane Marketing Circle. You will be invited to a private monthly Q&A call with me and fellow Humane Marketers - a safe zone to hang out with like-minded conscious entrepreneurs and help each other build our business and grow our impact. — I'd love for you to join us! Learn more at humane.marketing/circle Don't forget to subscribe to the show on iTunes or on Android to get notified for all my future shows and why not sign up for my weekly(ish) "Sarah Suggests Saturdays", a round-up of best practices, tools I use, books I read, podcasts, and other resources. Raise your hand and join the Humane Business Revolution. Warmly, Sarah Imperfect Transcript of the show We use and love Descript to edit our podcast and provide this free transcript of the episode. And yes, that's an affiliate link. Sarah: [00:00:00] Hey, Hillary, so nice to have you here. Thanks for coming. Hillary: Yeah. Sarah, thanks for having me. I've been thinking about our conversation all week. Sarah: Wonderful. Yeah, well, it's been more than a week. I was just saying offline that we connected like many months before, and so I'm just excited to have this different, , approach that you bring to storytelling. But as you know, we're kind of putting this under the p of personal power and I think, it really is a good fit because. Do bring that different approach, about storytelling coming from this personal power. And actually that's where I'd like to start. You know, you talk about superpowers and, we talk about superpowers in marketing as well, like finding out your humane marketing superpowers that you can bring more of you to your marketing. And, and so tell us why that matters in your, , storytelling approach. Hillary: Yeah, [00:01:00] it's funny. When I think of the word marketing or maybe flashback a handful of years ago, in my perception of marketing, I was always told, oh, it's about the the other person. It's about who you're marketing to. And while I still agree with that, I think. When I was able to make this shift of, okay, yes, it's about that other person who I'm communicating with, but I also need it to be about me as the communicator. And that's why storytelling and sharing a story from my own life that connects to who I am, my superpowers, what I put out into the world, is so important. And I think this idea of personal power with storytelling. We, each of us as the storyteller has control over our narrative, so I can choose what experiences from my life I share with other. People, [00:02:00] and sure other people might have stories about me, stories about my company, my brand, and there might be stories I tell myself that maybe aren't the nicest or the, the truest mm-hmm. But if I really zero in and focus on the story, I choose to express outwardly to other people, to me that's where the power is. And that personal power and, and light and how that connects with super power. Is I can find the experiences in my life that support what I consider my superpowers, or when I'm working with clients on their storytelling, we do a full exercise that helps them identify what their superpowers are, and then we continue the brainstorming of, oh, what are the experiences that you've had in your life? Looking at all aspects of your life that really support these superpowers, and how can you craft that into the narrative that makes the most. For your audience. Sarah: Mm-hmm. . Yeah. I [00:03:00] love that. It's a very similar approach to what we do in, in the marketing, like we're human program because we need to first go deep and figure out, you know, who are we and what's our story? And we're gonna talk a little bit later about this origin story or you have another name for it. Mm-hmm. . So who am. But then also, yeah. How does that connect with my ideal client? And I'm so glad you brought this up. You know, it's like this idea of marketing being only about the client. And, , as I just said offline, I'm, currently recording the marketing like we're human book and I was taught that the client is always king, right? That's kind of like one of these marketing things. It's like the client is king and, kind of thinking, oh, everything I do has to serve this client then makes you think, oh, people don't even care about. I am and what my stories are. I have to focus everything on this. Yeah. Outside source. And [00:04:00] I'm so glad you brought this up, that this is really like a reframe. It's like, yeah, the client is important and yes, we wanna understand them, but in order to actually resonate, we need to first also, , find out who we are and, and what our stories are. And that means finding out these superpowers. Hillary: Yeah, and I think what I learned early on in, in sharing stories for my own life, I started as a performer telling my own stories on stage in front of audiences. At the time, I think I went into it thinking like, oh, I'm funny. I can entertain people. But what I soon learned and felt is that a story isn't one sided, and there's that automatic reciprocity and exchange with a listening audience. They're hearing my story, they're taking it in. If there's opportunity for conversation after, people tend to share stories of of their own lives that connect or resonate somehow. And when I was [00:05:00] able to. That that storytelling was a conversation. I trusted myself more that I could, again, like channel what's inside of me, channel, the experiences I've had and who I am to then have that conversation with an audience. Sarah: Right? So it's like you're not just telling the story to avoid you actually. There to be feedback. Right. That's the communication and connection part. It's like we're not just doing this as performers. Even I would say even performers, they want feedback from the audience, otherwise they wouldn't do it. So, yeah. Yeah. It's, it's so interesting. So that kind of leads as then, , I already hinted at. This origin story, right, that we're, again, it's another thing that we, I guess we hear a lot from storytelling experts. We have to have this origin story, , and then we need to tell it in a, in a compelling way. You have [00:06:00] there as well kind of a suggesting a reframe. So tell us about how you call it and, and what's different, Sure. With the Hillary: origin story. Yeah. Early on in starting my. I used the phrase origin story for everything. And I would say I work with a lot of business owners, entrepreneurs, and also leaders of larger companies. And for everyone, I would say what you just said of you have to have an origin story, and there would be this immediate wave of overwhelm of, oh, my good, my goodness. I have to start from the very beginning of my. And like take everyone through my education, my expertise, my awards, my accolades, and then what if I've changed my business or changed my career or, or another thing in my life has changed. How do I explain that? And there was always this pressure of, it has to be this all-encompassing story. I have to make sense of myself, make sure people understand [00:07:00] who I am. And there would also be times where I would be listening to other. And hosts would say, oh, so what's your origin story? And again, there would be like this long winded response from people where you know that they're trying to get to the end, but the, the preparation or the thought put into it maybe wasn't considered as much. And so when I started teaching storytelling, I defined origin story to be less overwhelming. And it's a story that answers two questions. How did you get to where you are now and how did you get your superpowers? And so again, going back to superpowers, I do a really intensive exercise with my clients around identifying what those are. And then when we get to that question, the how did you get to where you are now, which is pretty standard for an origin story. I splice the question in half and I reverse it. So it's Where are you now? And how did you [00:08:00] get there? And by focusing on the where are you now, it allows people to tap into the presence of where am I now in my business? Where am I now in my life? Where am I now in terms of how I wanna communicate with other people? And once you have that, it's really finding those moments in your life that illuminate that, that support that. So it doesn't necessarily mean starting at the I was Born moment, or. The birth of the business moment, it could really be a more recent moment in time that supports who you are, what you do, what you stand for. And so that is a, to me and to everyone, I work with a really liberating way to think about it. Again, it it's a. A way to tap into that personal power and strength of like, this is who I am now and this might change, and when it changes, I can adjust my story as, as such. Mm-hmm. . and then really in the last handful of [00:09:00] months, I've decided not to use the word origin story at all because I don't want that overwhelm and that pressure, , to envelop people and hold them back from sharing their story or finding their story. And I, I saw that it still was overwhelming people. And so I've landed on this new term called Core Story. That still has that same definition, but it helps people stay again in that inner strength and personal power as they're communicating outward. Sarah: Mm. Yeah. So much good stuff in there. And, and I think I, I will have to kind of adapt the way I talk about the I don't think I ever mentioned the word origin story, but we talk about, , in the marketing, like we're human program creating our story. So I don't really use origin or core, but it's true that there's some. Overwhelm when people are first thinking about, you know, what is my story? And so I, I totally agree with [00:10:00] you , on that overwhelm part. What I'm wondering, and I'd like to hear from you is like, because when they actually do write the story and sometimes they have to go like really deep and eventually when it does come out, it may be too long. But they feel like such a big sense of relief that they have actually put it on paper and they see it and it's almost like it's healing to work through that story. ] what's your take on that healing part of putting it on paper? Hillary: Yeah. So when I work with my clients, we work on this core story for two months, right? It starts out rather large in terms of spanning time or diving deep into like a, a period of life that supports , the person where they are now and what they wanna talk about. And often in that there's a letting [00:11:00] go of old narratives. So whether it's the story they. To telling about themselves and their business or like in Yeah, an inner voice that's been telling a story for a long time. Sometimes that just comes out in the crafting process. Right. And once it's out there, I often hear, oh, that's definitely not the story. I'm really glad that I said it now and I don't need to say it again. Right. And so that tends to happen, and as I continue to work with people and fine tune. The story, I do something called Zoom in. And so as someone sharing their story, I will pause them in our work together and say, zoom in on what it felt like in the garden when you had that idea. Mm-hmm. . And what happens is each person. Goes into specifics, goes into details like visual details, sensorial details, what [00:12:00] they were feeling, a new perspective now as a storyteller on how they were feeling then, and those are the moments that stick. In the story. So there isn't really a necessity for like extra backstory or extra details. It's really finding the moments of specificity and finding the moments of movement. Mm-hmm. in the story. And what that ends up doing is it, it does. Shorten it and, and each storyteller still understands the context of everything, but the audience doesn't necessarily need that context, which is also really powerful to let go of the extra. Yeah. Sarah: This is so good. I'm gonna share this episode , with the group. Right now, even though it goes out in a few weeks, cuz I think that that is kind of the. Maybe the missing piece. , it's like, yes, you need to, at least, I think for me, I'm still gonna tell 'em, look, yes, write your story. , and it seems like [00:13:00] that's what you're saying as well. You're working on this and so there, it may be a lot longer at the beginning, but then you work your way. Back and, and kind of come to the essentials and therefore the term, , your core story. And, and it makes it easier for the reader to then connect the dots, right? , rather than having all this extra fluff that people go, huh, how is that even relevant here? Hillary: Yeah, and when there's a written version of the story, the core story, I still approach everything from a spoken version place. So a lot of my clients, all of them actually have to do both. They have to go through a process where, where there's writing involved, but I also make them practice with what I call low stakes audiences. So trusted friends, business best. Not so much family members or partners, but people in your life that you feel comfortable around but might not already know everything about you. And in that practice work, [00:14:00] especially trying it with different audiences, they continue to find the story and find again what's. Worth sharing and what needs to be shared when there's a listening audience there. Yeah. So even when it goes back to written form and you don't know who's there connecting with your story, you can still, again, feel the connection and feel the conversation of those live spoken experiences. Sarah: Yeah. So good. We talked about superpowers, so I'm curious, what are your superpowers and how do you use them in your storytelling? Yeah, Hillary: so I love this question. I have two worksheets that I give my clients in the brainstorming phase of their core story work, and one is identifying superheroes and what connects, and that could be like fictional characters. People alive now, people from history. Mm-hmm. , people that are close to the person. It could be [00:15:00] any, anybody really. But I make them do that. Identify what connects those people together and what connects you to those people in terms of values or , accomplishments or feelings, things like that. And then I transition them to this super powers worksheet. And I hadn't done it for myself. And so in preparation for this podcast yesterday, I took some time and I filled out both of those worksheets and it was so difficult and I now have so much more respect. , I'm even more respect for my clients because it is a really hard task. To do. And so there's a list of 10 superpowers, like for them to brainstorm, and then there's the desert island three. If you had to choose only three, what would they be? So the three that I chose from my list of 10, I'm looking down at my paper. Mm-hmm. , uh, my voice, my visual imagination, and the fact that I'm an opportunity creator. Mm. And it was [00:16:00] really hard to land on those. But I feel like they encompass who I am as a human, who I am as a leader, who I am as a business owner, and they are things that I can tap into and share stories about, but also just inform. How I take up space and show up in the world. So I feel really good about what I landed on, but it, it was pretty difficult. Sarah: It's hard. Yeah. Of course. We're now curious what the other seven are. Can Hillary: you read those to us? Yeah, sure. So I said feedback and it's interesting because I know I'm really good at giving feedback. I had a, a job many years ago where I was trained in like a very specific feedback style, and I've carried it through into my. Business, but it's also things that I hear like that is something I hear from clients of like, wow, you're so good at giving feedback. Mm-hmm. . So I claim that, , my listening ear, so I have a degree in music. I'm a trained singer. We had to take classes and college that literally trained our [00:17:00] ear, but I know that informs how I hear stories and what I. To and how I can help people in that way. I said my visual imagination, that's like just in terms of what I see possible, but then also how I bring stories to life and how I help people bring stories to life. Mm-hmm. commitment to self, which is one I've like really worked on over time, but feel like that is a power that I. Like now have, that's unwavering. , my comedic lens. So my background, a bit of my background is in comedy as well. And, , my partner and I are always in competition about who's funnier and he's day, , that skill, he still thinks he's like naturally funnier. I don't know if I agree, but skills wise, I, I am the funnier person. , , a vision for what's possible. So that's for myself, for other people, for the world. Like my vision for if everyone using storytelling and what's possible, if that was the case. Mm-hmm. , [00:18:00] my feet. And so that has to do with, , my sense of groundedness, but also I'm tap dancer. And I actually hear stories and rhythms and I like think about it like in terms of tap dancing and then also my feet in terms of like my convictions, like I am grounded in like what I stand for, what I believe in and in my, for my voice, the one I shared of my top three. It's also, it's the way I use my voice to take up space and share stories, but also my singing voice and knowing that that's there to support me as well. Number nine, determination. And 10 was opportunity creator. And again, that's for myself and for other people. And just knowing that, yeah, opportunities can come, but they can also be created. Sarah: Wow. Yeah. Yeah, I can see how that must have been really hard. First, I was thinking you gave people a list with the different superpowers, but No, you came up with those 10 for you specifically. So everybody has to come up with [00:19:00] 10 or however many on their own, right? Yeah, Hillary: and And it's amazing what people come up with. Mm-hmm. , because it's in their own like language and framework . For how they move through the world. Yeah. And it's, and then there's some that are really, that are shared by so many people. Yeah. Which I think is really great. But no, I don't, people have to come up with their own list. But they, but the superheroes exercise is a springboard into that list because they already start to identify, okay, who, what connects me to this group of people that I Right. Like, respect that inform my life in some way. Yeah. So there it's definitely one leads in's the other, for sure. Sarah: I just shared one of mine on, on a LinkedIn post recently, so it's top of mine. , one of mine is starting with the no, so meaning I always. Look at how can we simplify, streamline, make things easier, , less overwhelming. So that's kind of one of my superpowers, I think. Like just very [00:20:00] straightforward and yeah, simplifying things. I love Hillary: that. And I can already imagine so many stories. Mm-hmm. where there were things in your life where when you started with the know what happened or moments in your life. Maybe should have started with the No, but you can share them as a, a learning Yeah. Experience too. That's so Sarah: cool. Exactly. Yeah. That's wonderful. All right. I'm really excited also to go into the next topic, which is the, the hero journey, , topic that you and I had some interesting email conversations about already. , You know, it's part of that storytelling vocabulary and, and a lot of storytellers follow that hero, journey. , and I actually wrote in the, in the book, I'm like, you know, I think I'm actually getting tired of that, same old hero journeys, , story. And so when you and I talked. My email, you shared some, also some interesting thoughts on, on that, so I'd love to hear them hear. Hillary: Yeah. [00:21:00] It's interesting because I, I felt a pressure that I don't even think I realized I had to have a hero's journey story starting when I was telling stories in front of audiences for entertainment, but also at the early stages of my business and needing, I felt like I needed a story that. Expressed power and strength that I wasn't actually, that wasn't mine. Mm-hmm. like it was someone else's. Right. And that's sort of, I guess, esoteric the way I just said it, but it felt like I had to be someone else in my story. Right. To get to a certain type of, Story, a certain type of result, a certain type of messaging. And it was this inner struggle. And I think I never, I always was resisting it, but I couldn't really fully identify why it didn't sit well with me. And then in February of 2020, I'm on New York times.com. And there's this opinion piece [00:22:00] written by this woman named Brit Marling, and she is a writer, director, actor. She had a brilliant science fiction show that was on Netflix called The oa. And she's done some films as well. And it was a article something. The title is like, I don't wanna Be Another Strong Female Lead. And this, it's a beautiful essay and a beautiful series of stories about Brit Marlin's life before she became an actor. And, and the sort of powerful role, woman role she had to live up to, like in the, in the finance industry. And then when she was getting these strong female roles in film, they would get killed off or beaten or all of these things. And as I'm moving through this article, she brings up the Hero's journey and Joseph Campbell. And talks about that structure with the inciting incident and the rising action and the climax and the deman, the like happy ending resolution. And she compared it to a male orgasm . And I'm [00:23:00] reading this article and I was like, Oh yeah. . And then the end of the essay, and I'll make sure to that you can share it , in the notes. Yes, please. Starts asking all these questions of like, well, what if there are other ways of telling stories? Like what's the, the feminine journey story and, and what happens if we imagine all of these different types of narratives then can come in And I looked and I, I, after I read that, I. Fully in myself and in my work and, and I understood myself more and I understood my approach to storytelling more. And I really like put a stake in the ground of like, yes, there is another way. We don't need heroes journey. It's not about this one person battling. Inner and outer demons and getting on top and everybody else is under them. There are other structures for storytelling, and especially in business and marketing. There are other ways to invite people into our experiences as the founder, business [00:24:00] owner leader, and so that was. A really powerful moment for me, and from that point on, I've pretty much been on my anti-heroes journey, train, and inviting people to join me. When I tell other people and invite other people to imagine other ways of telling stories, oh, the freedom it brings. And also, again, I think it helps people access that inner personal power versus this idea of like achieving power that that structure brings about. Sarah: Yeah. Oh, I had forgotten about the orgasm thing, but that is just, yeah, I need to reread it. It's so good and it, it is funny to me how, to me, it's a bit of an outdated, way of looking at business or even life and, and, yeah. It is because it's, very male and , this strong surviving kind of thing where if you look at it from the [00:25:00] feminine approach, it would be completely different. And it also made me think of what we, mentioned earlier , maybe the client doesn't want heroes like we were told to tell this hero's journey because the client would look at us as having lived through these difficult times. And, and it's kind of this rag and richest story, right, that America loves. I just saw last week an article, oh, in America we love some good rag riches story. Yeah. And it's true, right? That's part of the, culture as well. But maybe the today's conscious client doesn't want those stories. And that's what I say in, in marketing, like, we're human is like, well, I can't tell you that kind of story because I, I'm not there. You know, I'm right here, right now and I'm, , starting over. And so in a way, I feel like the conscious client wants to be on the same level, not hearing you how you have [00:26:00] suffered and now you. , succeeded and you're now a multimillionaire. So I think people have changed and, and consciousness has changed as. Hillary: Yeah, and I work with a lot of clients that have service based businesses, so whether they're like a mindset coach or they specialize in a specific topic, like I have a client that specializes in high functioning anxiety, and she's a former therapist, her coach. Right. And she has. High functioning anxiety. So she's trained as a clinician and a therapist and understands it that way. But she has really tapped into saying, Hey, this is something that can't be fixed and it doesn't go away, but here's what you can do to quiet it, to build self loyalty, to move through the world. And she has really found like people respond to her and. I'm so happy that you shared this. Mm-hmm. , I feel like I don't feel broken anymore. I feel like there, it's possible for me [00:27:00] to live my life and I understand that it doesn't go away, and I understand that you go through it, but you also know how to help. And so just again, it like builds a bridge and deepens those connections with an audience. And I do it myself in terms of like a lot of my clients, especially in their marketing endeavor. They wanna take up more space and be visible, but without the like, Big show or without, you know, they wanna do it as themselves. Like so much of what you talk about, , and I talk about, I tell stories about how scary it can be to take up space or the struggles with visibility and, and where that fear comes in and where the like, oh, what if I'm perceived this way or that kind of, all of those what ifs and things like, I still go through them as well, and I, and sometimes there are better days and so, There are are worse, and that that's always gonna be an ongoing issue and struggle. Sarah: Yeah. I feel like in a way, the hero's journey is part of the [00:28:00] old. Marketing paradigm as well, where we didn't share with transparency. We just shared, you know, the 6, 7, 8 figure success, right? It's like, oh look, I came from nothing and now I'm, I have an eight figure business where that just. I believe definitely doesn't resonate with our audiences, but it also will no longer resonate as much with other people because we're, we just want transparency. That's what we want today. So in a way, to me, the hero's journey, at least the way he saw it, kind of belongs to the past. we need to have different frameworks and, and I'm so glad you're, you're offering these, I Hillary: just, one thing too about the hero's journey is there's a pressure for an ending that hasn't necessarily happened yet, and yeah, one thing I really appreciate that I heard you say in conversation with, I believe, Lisa, in your conversation about storytelling, there is this idea of the messy. [00:29:00] Middle. Mm-hmm. and that they, when you let go of the hero's journey structure, there's so much storytelling that can happen about the messy middle, right? That, again, serves you as the communicator, but also the audience in all of the ways we just. Talked about Sarah: as well. Yeah, exactly. That, that's what really connects with your audience and, and, and then of course, yeah, you need to think about Brene Brown and think about the vulnerability and decide, well, how, what's the intention behind me sharing this? Is there integrity behind this? , me sharing this or, or, because right now we all know that, okay, it sells to share with vulnerability. So obviously we don't just want to share it because it sells, but because we really want to. Connect and relate with our audience. But, but yeah, the messy middle, that's where, that's where the good stories are, right? Yeah. Hillary: Yeah. And I think one set of questions I take myself through [00:30:00] and take my clients through is the, why am I telling this story? And what do I want my listener to do once they've heard this story? Mm-hmm. . And I feel like when those questions are answered and identified, the, it's like the checklist of integrity, the checklist of intentional vulnerability that's safe, both for the communicator and for the audience. It's not manipulative, it's not oversharing, all of that. So I love that too. And again, I think going back to personal power. That gives you more inner strength as the communicator to be like, oh no, this is why I'm sharing this. Yeah. And this is what I want them to do once they've heard or hope that they'll do once they've heard. Yeah. Sarah: Yeah. So good. You mentioned several times this term of , taking up space. So how does being in your personal power and telling stories from that place, how does that help us with taking up space? [00:31:00] Hillary: I found for myself, and I found it through storytelling, that when I was able to know myself and know how I wanted to share myself with other people and then find those stories that I wanted to share. I was not afraid of taking up space because it's this like my inner message of like, this is who I am. I know myself. I'm committed to myself back to one of my superpowers, and I have a reason for sharing this. Story with you. So I have no choice but to take up space because I am doing it with intention and with the goal of this. Creating a dialogue. Creating a connection. And so I believe that storytelling gives people that personal power to get comfortable being visible, to get comfortable taking up space, which marketing is getting comfortable, being visible, getting comfortable taking up space as you are. Authentic self and as the [00:32:00] expert that you are coming from that authentic, genuine place. So I think that it's like grounded in a trust of self, but then it's also, you have to trust your story and trust that it will communicate for you and do the work for you. And then there's that third piece, which is you have to also trust your audience in order to take up space and be visible. And that can be really scary too, especially if it's a audience. Is landing on a webpage and you don't know who they are listening to a podcast and you don't necessarily have a face or a name to connect. Sarah: Yeah, and I feel like. If you're doing that deeper work of really figuring out, okay, what is the core story and not, like we mentioned before, you know, what are was my education, what are my accolades and accreditations and all of that. Then you're taking up space from a different place, , not from necessarily the ego, but probably from your gut more. [00:33:00] And so it's a different, it's not. It's not an intimidating space or a, you know, ego driven space. It's just. Grounded space in a way. It's like, here I am, you know, this is what I believe in, this is what I stand for. You like it, great. I open my arms. If you don't like it, you know, feel free. , go to the next person. That's what I perceive. Hillary: I love that visualization of, of open arms and then, and like I think of it as like a heart centered right way of com, like your stories coming out of your mouth, but it's also coming out. Your heart. And I think it takes a bit of, , like I, I've never sky gone skydiving or bungee jumped, but I think it's this idea of like letting the trust and self trusts and story trust in the audience be a letting go in the moment and saying like, this is, yeah. What you said. This is who I am, this is what I believe, this is what I have to offer the [00:34:00] world here. I go, mm-hmm. . And it can feel really scary at. But it's the most freeing feeling to communicate from that space versus any other space of trying to fit into a, a template or a formula or put on a character or a facade. Like it just isn't worth it. . Yeah. Sarah: So what would you tell someone, uh, tell our listeners. If they want to, you know, you know, get this deeper trust and probably figure out their superpowers to start from where, where would they go? Hillary: Yeah. I mean, it really does start with a trust in self and I think there's a lot of brainstorming work, like even just sitting and thinking. What stories from my life are even coming to mind immediately and without trying to bring in the logical of like, well, why is this coming to mind? And all that, but just trusting the memories and the [00:35:00] brainstorming ideas that are coming to the surface and just logging them in some way. Mm-hmm. , I make my clients have something called a story bank. I think your um, Lisa mentioned something about a story bank. Mm-hmm. as well. Mm-hmm. . Um, but just logging your brainstorming ideas there and, and keeping them there and holding onto them for the time when you're ready to explore it as a story. So I take my clients through like a two hour brainstorming experience as part of the work that they do. I know a lot of my stories, idea story ideas have come from just like a, a flash of a memory that I had or an object that's in my space that reminds me of something. So I would say that's a really great place to start in terms of cultivating the trust. Mm-hmm. . And then it's a matter of, ooh, let me. Go with this one idea and let's see what happens if I add a beginning, middle, and end. I may be right some around it. Practice [00:36:00] telling the story in an off the cuff way to a friend, and then building trust in the story and the storytelling and what that can do for you. I would say those are the good places to start. The trusting audience stuff can definitely, Take longer Sarah: to, it's a muscle, right. That you kind of practice. Yeah. Yeah. What I would I add also is, is this creativity thinking. Like what, what I wrote about in the book is this idea of, for probably a decade now, we know about storytelling, but if you come from this left brain thinking, analytical mind of I have to do marketing and now I have to, you know, tell stories in my marketing, your left brain. Is an overtrained muscle where your right brain is an undertrained muscle, and so your left brain will always want to bring in some techniques and, and, and features and benefits and, and those make. Don't make for a [00:37:00] good story, right? Where really the right brain is bringing in the creative storytelling approach. And so I would say yeah, bring in some creative, , activities let that brain take off and, and, and experiment freely. , to me it really. When I understood storytelling is when my right brain turned on. I'm like, oh, okay. So it's more about connecting with my audience and not about, you know, making them do something or buy something or, or any of that. So I think that was, , yeah, important to share here. Hillary: Yeah, and I think listening to other people's stories, whether it's like in someone else's marketing, but also just. Watching videos of storytellers on YouTube or listening to storytelling podcasts, right. At any time I hear someone really like in their story and sharing, I'm connected to it, but at the same time, it's helping me think of stories from my life that I want [00:38:00] to share. Yeah. And also I know when I go for walks or. My ideas always come to the surface, and I always have like a, either on my phone or a notepad next to me. , I just shared a story about my dentist in my newsletter, and that had been, I, that appointment was in. July, I think. So I was sitting with that story just brainstorming wise until I was ready to share it and had a reason to share it with my audience as Sarah: well. Mm. Yeah. That's good. There needed to be a reason, right? Because obviously otherwise, Yeah, it's just a story, but if there's a reason for the story, then it always is more compelling. Yeah. Yes. This has been so good. Thank you so much for sharing a different, very refreshing and radical approach to storytelling. I really appreciated it. Let people know where they can find you and find out more about [00:39:00] your way of doing things. Hillary: Sure. So the best place to connect is on tell me a story's website, which is tell me a story.info. And there's also a link on that page to something called the Speak Up session. It's a monthly free gathering that I host virtually, all around storytelling and taking up space and, and visibility. And there's typically a guest storyteller that. Jumping off the ledge, ready to share their story with a, a wonderful, warm audience. And then opportunity to kind of dive into your own storytelling and communication challenges. So I invite anyone listening that wants to check that out, to sign up and Sarah: come. Wonderful. Yeah, we'll make sure we add that link in the show notes as well. Thank you so much. I have one last question, Hillary, and that is what are you grateful for today? Or this. Mm. Hillary: I mean, this is very literal, but I'm really grateful for our conversation and I'm also grateful. [00:40:00] That I reached out to you. I used my voice to reach out with you many months ago because you and your work really resonated and we had such a lovely conversation. And so I'm grateful for this relationship that has been built and for being in conversation with someone that is so aligned. It's really lovely and I'm just a fan of your work, and your work is important and much needed. So thank you. Thank Sarah: you. And likewise, thanks so much for being.

Today I'm talking to Hillary Rea about finding your core story and your superpowers and how you can use them in your storytelling. Hillary Rea is the founder of Tell Me A Story, a communication consulting and coaching business that trains ambitious leaders who want to take up more space, communicate with impact, and become more confident as they become more visible. Through her company's signature Crafting Your Narrative: Solo Retreat, as well as ongoing coaching partnerships, Hillary helps her clients to find their voice and then empowers them to use it — by sharing their unique stories with honesty and passion. She is an award-winning storyteller, and has been telling her own stories on stage for 13 years - as a performer, as the host of a the long-running Tell Me A Story Live Show, and now as a keynote speaker. When Hillary first reached out to me to ask if she could come and speak about Storytelling on my podcast I thought "another Storytelling expert". But then I read further and started to really appreciate her radically different approach to storytelling. And you know how much we like 'radically different' on the Humane Marketing Show. In this episode, you'll learn about finding your core story and your superpowers as well as... 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Raise your hand and join the Humane Business Revolution. Warmly, Sarah Imperfect Transcript of the show We use and love Descript to edit our podcast and provide this free transcript of the episode. And yes, that's an affiliate link. Sarah: [00:00:00] Hey, Hillary, so nice to have you here. Thanks for coming. Hillary: Yeah. Sarah, thanks for having me. I've been thinking about our conversation all week. Sarah: Wonderful. Yeah, well, it's been more than a week. I was just saying offline that we connected like many months before, and so I'm just excited to have this different, , approach that you bring to storytelling. But as you know, we're kind of putting this under the p of personal power and I think, it really is a good fit because. Do bring that different approach, about storytelling coming from this personal power. And actually that's where I'd like to start. You know, you talk about superpowers and, we talk about superpowers in marketing as well, like finding out your humane marketing superpowers that you can bring more of you to your marketing. And, and so tell us why that matters in your, , storytelling approach. Hillary: Yeah, [00:01:00] it's funny. When I think of the word marketing or maybe flashback a handful of years ago, in my perception of marketing, I was always told, oh, it's about the the other person. It's about who you're marketing to. And while I still agree with that, I think. When I was able to make this shift of, okay, yes, it's about that other person who I'm communicating with, but I also need it to be about me as the communicator. And that's why storytelling and sharing a story from my own life that connects to who I am, my superpowers, what I put out into the world, is so important. And I think this idea of personal power with storytelling. We, each of us as the storyteller has control over our narrative, so I can choose what experiences from my life I share with other. People, [00:02:00] and sure other people might have stories about me, stories about my company, my brand, and there might be stories I tell myself that maybe aren't the nicest or the, the truest mm-hmm. But if I really zero in and focus on the story, I choose to express outwardly to other people, to me that's where the power is. And that personal power and, and light and how that connects with super power. Is I can find the experiences in my life that support what I consider my superpowers, or when I'm working with clients on their storytelling, we do a full exercise that helps them identify what their superpowers are, and then we continue the brainstorming of, oh, what are the experiences that you've had in your life? Looking at all aspects of your life that really support these superpowers, and how can you craft that into the narrative that makes the most. For your audience. Sarah: Mm-hmm. . Yeah. I [00:03:00] love that. It's a very similar approach to what we do in, in the marketing, like we're human program because we need to first go deep and figure out, you know, who are we and what's our story? And we're gonna talk a little bit later about this origin story or you have another name for it. Mm-hmm. . So who am. But then also, yeah. How does that connect with my ideal client? And I'm so glad you brought this up. You know, it's like this idea of marketing being only about the client. And, , as I just said offline, I'm, currently recording the marketing like we're human book and I was taught that the client is always king, right? That's kind of like one of these marketing things. It's like the client is king and, kind of thinking, oh, everything I do has to serve this client then makes you think, oh, people don't even care about. I am and what my stories are. I have to focus everything on this. Yeah. Outside source. And [00:04:00] I'm so glad you brought this up, that this is really like a reframe. It's like, yeah, the client is important and yes, we wanna understand them, but in order to actually resonate, we need to first also, , find out who we are and, and what our stories are. And that means finding out these superpowers. Hillary: Yeah, and I think what I learned early on in, in sharing stories for my own life, I started as a performer telling my own stories on stage in front of audiences. At the time, I think I went into it thinking like, oh, I'm funny. I can entertain people. But what I soon learned and felt is that a story isn't one sided, and there's that automatic reciprocity and exchange with a listening audience. They're hearing my story, they're taking it in. If there's opportunity for conversation after, people tend to share stories of of their own lives that connect or resonate somehow. And when I was [00:05:00] able to. That that storytelling was a conversation. I trusted myself more that I could, again, like channel what's inside of me, channel, the experiences I've had and who I am to then have that conversation with an audience. Sarah: Right? So it's like you're not just telling the story to avoid you actually. There to be feedback. Right. That's the communication and connection part. It's like we're not just doing this as performers. Even I would say even performers, they want feedback from the audience, otherwise they wouldn't do it. So, yeah. Yeah. It's, it's so interesting. So that kind of leads as then, , I already hinted at. This origin story, right, that we're, again, it's another thing that we, I guess we hear a lot from storytelling experts. We have to have this origin story, , and then we need to tell it in a, in a compelling way. You have [00:06:00] there as well kind of a suggesting a reframe. So tell us about how you call it and, and what's different, Sure. With the Hillary: origin story. Yeah. Early on in starting my. I used the phrase origin story for everything. And I would say I work with a lot of business owners, entrepreneurs, and also leaders of larger companies. And for everyone, I would say what you just said of you have to have an origin story, and there would be this immediate wave of overwhelm of, oh, my good, my goodness. I have to start from the very beginning of my. And like take everyone through my education, my expertise, my awards, my accolades, and then what if I've changed my business or changed my career or, or another thing in my life has changed. How do I explain that? And there was always this pressure of, it has to be this all-encompassing story. I have to make sense of myself, make sure people understand [00:07:00] who I am. And there would also be times where I would be listening to other. And hosts would say, oh, so what's your origin story? And again, there would be like this long winded response from people where you know that they're trying to get to the end, but the, the preparation or the thought put into it maybe wasn't considered as much. And so when I started teaching storytelling, I defined origin story to be less overwhelming. And it's a story that answers two questions. How did you get to where you are now and how did you get your superpowers? And so again, going back to superpowers, I do a really intensive exercise with my clients around identifying what those are. And then when we get to that question, the how did you get to where you are now, which is pretty standard for an origin story. I splice the question in half and I reverse it. So it's Where are you now? And how did you [00:08:00] get there? And by focusing on the where are you now, it allows people to tap into the presence of where am I now in my business? Where am I now in my life? Where am I now in terms of how I wanna communicate with other people? And once you have that, it's really finding those moments in your life that illuminate that, that support that. So it doesn't necessarily mean starting at the I was Born moment, or. The birth of the business moment, it could really be a more recent moment in time that supports who you are, what you do, what you stand for. And so that is a, to me and to everyone, I work with a really liberating way to think about it. Again, it it's a. A way to tap into that personal power and strength of like, this is who I am now and this might change, and when it changes, I can adjust my story as, as such. Mm-hmm. . and then really in the last handful of [00:09:00] months, I've decided not to use the word origin story at all because I don't want that overwhelm and that pressure, , to envelop people and hold them back from sharing their story or finding their story. And I, I saw that it still was overwhelming people. And so I've landed on this new term called Core Story. That still has that same definition, but it helps people stay again in that inner strength and personal power as they're communicating outward. Sarah: Mm. Yeah. So much good stuff in there. And, and I think I, I will have to kind of adapt the way I talk about the I don't think I ever mentioned the word origin story, but we talk about, , in the marketing, like we're human program creating our story. So I don't really use origin or core, but it's true that there's some. Overwhelm when people are first thinking about, you know, what is my story? And so I, I totally agree with [00:10:00] you , on that overwhelm part. What I'm wondering, and I'd like to hear from you is like, because when they actually do write the story and sometimes they have to go like really deep and eventually when it does come out, it may be too long. But they feel like such a big sense of relief that they have actually put it on paper and they see it and it's almost like it's healing to work through that story. ] what's your take on that healing part of putting it on paper? Hillary: Yeah. So when I work with my clients, we work on this core story for two months, right? It starts out rather large in terms of spanning time or diving deep into like a, a period of life that supports , the person where they are now and what they wanna talk about. And often in that there's a letting [00:11:00] go of old narratives. So whether it's the story they. To telling about themselves and their business or like in Yeah, an inner voice that's been telling a story for a long time. Sometimes that just comes out in the crafting process. Right. And once it's out there, I often hear, oh, that's definitely not the story. I'm really glad that I said it now and I don't need to say it again. Right. And so that tends to happen, and as I continue to work with people and fine tune. The story, I do something called Zoom in. And so as someone sharing their story, I will pause them in our work together and say, zoom in on what it felt like in the garden when you had that idea. Mm-hmm. . And what happens is each person. Goes into specifics, goes into details like visual details, sensorial details, what [00:12:00] they were feeling, a new perspective now as a storyteller on how they were feeling then, and those are the moments that stick. In the story. So there isn't really a necessity for like extra backstory or extra details. It's really finding the moments of specificity and finding the moments of movement. Mm-hmm. in the story. And what that ends up doing is it, it does. Shorten it and, and each storyteller still understands the context of everything, but the audience doesn't necessarily need that context, which is also really powerful to let go of the extra. Yeah. Sarah: This is so good. I'm gonna share this episode , with the group. Right now, even though it goes out in a few weeks, cuz I think that that is kind of the. Maybe the missing piece. , it's like, yes, you need to, at least, I think for me, I'm still gonna tell 'em, look, yes, write your story. , and it seems like [00:13:00] that's what you're saying as well. You're working on this and so there, it may be a lot longer at the beginning, but then you work your way. Back and, and kind of come to the essentials and therefore the term, , your core story. And, and it makes it easier for the reader to then connect the dots, right? , rather than having all this extra fluff that people go, huh, how is that even relevant here? Hillary: Yeah, and when there's a written version of the story, the core story, I still approach everything from a spoken version place. So a lot of my clients, all of them actually have to do both. They have to go through a process where, where there's writing involved, but I also make them practice with what I call low stakes audiences. So trusted friends, business best. Not so much family members or partners, but people in your life that you feel comfortable around but might not already know everything about you. And in that practice work, [00:14:00] especially trying it with different audiences, they continue to find the story and find again what's. Worth sharing and what needs to be shared when there's a listening audience there. Yeah. So even when it goes back to written form and you don't know who's there connecting with your story, you can still, again, feel the connection and feel the conversation of those live spoken experiences. Sarah: Yeah. So good. We talked about superpowers, so I'm curious, what are your superpowers and how do you use them in your storytelling? Yeah, Hillary: so I love this question. I have two worksheets that I give my clients in the brainstorming phase of their core story work, and one is identifying superheroes and what connects, and that could be like fictional characters. People alive now, people from history. Mm-hmm. , people that are close to the person. It could be [00:15:00] any, anybody really. But I make them do that. Identify what connects those people together and what connects you to those people in terms of values or , accomplishments or feelings, things like that. And then I transition them to this super powers worksheet. And I hadn't done it for myself. And so in preparation for this podcast yesterday, I took some time and I filled out both of those worksheets and it was so difficult and I now have so much more respect. , I'm even more respect for my clients because it is a really hard task. To do. And so there's a list of 10 superpowers, like for them to brainstorm, and then there's the desert island three. If you had to choose only three, what would they be? So the three that I chose from my list of 10, I'm looking down at my paper. Mm-hmm. , uh, my voice, my visual imagination, and the fact that I'm an opportunity creator. Mm. And it was [00:16:00] really hard to land on those. But I feel like they encompass who I am as a human, who I am as a leader, who I am as a business owner, and they are things that I can tap into and share stories about, but also just inform. How I take up space and show up in the world. So I feel really good about what I landed on, but it, it was pretty difficult. Sarah: It's hard. Yeah. Of course. We're now curious what the other seven are. Can Hillary: you read those to us? Yeah, sure. So I said feedback and it's interesting because I know I'm really good at giving feedback. I had a, a job many years ago where I was trained in like a very specific feedback style, and I've carried it through into my. Business, but it's also things that I hear like that is something I hear from clients of like, wow, you're so good at giving feedback. Mm-hmm. . So I claim that, , my listening ear, so I have a degree in music. I'm a trained singer. We had to take classes and college that literally trained our [00:17:00] ear, but I know that informs how I hear stories and what I. To and how I can help people in that way. I said my visual imagination, that's like just in terms of what I see possible, but then also how I bring stories to life and how I help people bring stories to life. Mm-hmm. commitment to self, which is one I've like really worked on over time, but feel like that is a power that I. Like now have, that's unwavering. , my comedic lens. So my background, a bit of my background is in comedy as well. And, , my partner and I are always in competition about who's funnier and he's day, , that skill, he still thinks he's like naturally funnier. I don't know if I agree, but skills wise, I, I am the funnier person. , , a vision for what's possible. So that's for myself, for other people, for the world. Like my vision for if everyone using storytelling and what's possible, if that was the case. Mm-hmm. , [00:18:00] my feet. And so that has to do with, , my sense of groundedness, but also I'm tap dancer. And I actually hear stories and rhythms and I like think about it like in terms of tap dancing and then also my feet in terms of like my convictions, like I am grounded in like what I stand for, what I believe in and in my, for my voice, the one I shared of my top three. It's also, it's the way I use my voice to take up space and share stories, but also my singing voice and knowing that that's there to support me as well. Number nine, determination. And 10 was opportunity creator. And again, that's for myself and for other people. And just knowing that, yeah, opportunities can come, but they can also be created. Sarah: Wow. Yeah. Yeah, I can see how that must have been really hard. First, I was thinking you gave people a list with the different superpowers, but No, you came up with those 10 for you specifically. So everybody has to come up with [00:19:00] 10 or however many on their own, right? Yeah, Hillary: and And it's amazing what people come up with. Mm-hmm. , because it's in their own like language and framework . For how they move through the world. Yeah. And it's, and then there's some that are really, that are shared by so many people. Yeah. Which I think is really great. But no, I don't, people have to come up with their own list. But they, but the superheroes exercise is a springboard into that list because they already start to identify, okay, who, what connects me to this group of people that I Right. Like, respect that inform my life in some way. Yeah. So there it's definitely one leads in's the other, for sure. Sarah: I just shared one of mine on, on a LinkedIn post recently, so it's top of mine. , one of mine is starting with the no, so meaning I always. Look at how can we simplify, streamline, make things easier, , less overwhelming. So that's kind of one of my superpowers, I think. Like just very [00:20:00] straightforward and yeah, simplifying things. I love Hillary: that. And I can already imagine so many stories. Mm-hmm. where there were things in your life where when you started with the know what happened or moments in your life. Maybe should have started with the No, but you can share them as a, a learning Yeah. Experience too. That's so Sarah: cool. Exactly. Yeah. That's wonderful. All right. I'm really excited also to go into the next topic, which is the, the hero journey, , topic that you and I had some interesting email conversations about already. , You know, it's part of that storytelling vocabulary and, and a lot of storytellers follow that hero, journey. , and I actually wrote in the, in the book, I'm like, you know, I think I'm actually getting tired of that, same old hero journeys, , story. And so when you and I talked. My email, you shared some, also some interesting thoughts on, on that, so I'd love to hear them hear. Hillary: Yeah. [00:21:00] It's interesting because I, I felt a pressure that I don't even think I realized I had to have a hero's journey story starting when I was telling stories in front of audiences for entertainment, but also at the early stages of my business and needing, I felt like I needed a story that. Expressed power and strength that I wasn't actually, that wasn't mine. Mm-hmm. like it was someone else's. Right. And that's sort of, I guess, esoteric the way I just said it, but it felt like I had to be someone else in my story. Right. To get to a certain type of, Story, a certain type of result, a certain type of messaging. And it was this inner struggle. And I think I never, I always was resisting it, but I couldn't really fully identify why it didn't sit well with me. And then in February of 2020, I'm on New York times.com. And there's this opinion piece [00:22:00] written by this woman named Brit Marling, and she is a writer, director, actor. She had a brilliant science fiction show that was on Netflix called The oa. And she's done some films as well. And it was a article something. The title is like, I don't wanna Be Another Strong Female Lead. And this, it's a beautiful essay and a beautiful series of stories about Brit Marlin's life before she became an actor. And, and the sort of powerful role, woman role she had to live up to, like in the, in the finance industry. And then when she was getting these strong female roles in film, they would get killed off or beaten or all of these things. And as I'm moving through this article, she brings up the Hero's journey and Joseph Campbell. And talks about that structure with the inciting incident and the rising action and the climax and the deman, the like happy ending resolution. And she compared it to a male orgasm . And I'm [00:23:00] reading this article and I was like, Oh yeah. . And then the end of the essay, and I'll make sure to that you can share it , in the notes. Yes, please. Starts asking all these questions of like, well, what if there are other ways of telling stories? Like what's the, the feminine journey story and, and what happens if we imagine all of these different types of narratives then can come in And I looked and I, I, after I read that, I. Fully in myself and in my work and, and I understood myself more and I understood my approach to storytelling more. And I really like put a stake in the ground of like, yes, there is another way. We don't need heroes journey. It's not about this one person battling. Inner and outer demons and getting on top and everybody else is under them. There are other structures for storytelling, and especially in business and marketing. There are other ways to invite people into our experiences as the founder, business [00:24:00] owner leader, and so that was. A really powerful moment for me, and from that point on, I've pretty much been on my anti-heroes journey, train, and inviting people to join me. When I tell other people and invite other people to imagine other ways of telling stories, oh, the freedom it brings. And also, again, I think it helps people access that inner personal power versus this idea of like achieving power that that structure brings about. Sarah: Yeah. Oh, I had forgotten about the orgasm thing, but that is just, yeah, I need to reread it. It's so good and it, it is funny to me how, to me, it's a bit of an outdated, way of looking at business or even life and, and, yeah. It is because it's, very male and , this strong surviving kind of thing where if you look at it from the [00:25:00] feminine approach, it would be completely different. And it also made me think of what we, mentioned earlier , maybe the client doesn't want heroes like we were told to tell this hero's journey because the client would look at us as having lived through these difficult times. And, and it's kind of this rag and richest story, right, that America loves. I just saw last week an article, oh, in America we love some good rag riches story. Yeah. And it's true, right? That's part of the, culture as well. But maybe the today's conscious client doesn't want those stories. And that's what I say in, in marketing, like, we're human is like, well, I can't tell you that kind of story because I, I'm not there. You know, I'm right here, right now and I'm, , starting over. And so in a way, I feel like the conscious client wants to be on the same level, not hearing you how you have [00:26:00] suffered and now you. , succeeded and you're now a multimillionaire. So I think people have changed and, and consciousness has changed as. Hillary: Yeah, and I work with a lot of clients that have service based businesses, so whether they're like a mindset coach or they specialize in a specific topic, like I have a client that specializes in high functioning anxiety, and she's a former therapist, her coach. Right. And she has. High functioning anxiety. So she's trained as a clinician and a therapist and understands it that way. But she has really tapped into saying, Hey, this is something that can't be fixed and it doesn't go away, but here's what you can do to quiet it, to build self loyalty, to move through the world. And she has really found like people respond to her and. I'm so happy that you shared this. Mm-hmm. , I feel like I don't feel broken anymore. I feel like there, it's possible for me [00:27:00] to live my life and I understand that it doesn't go away, and I understand that you go through it, but you also know how to help. And so just again, it like builds a bridge and deepens those connections with an audience. And I do it myself in terms of like a lot of my clients, especially in their marketing endeavor. They wanna take up more space and be visible, but without the like, Big show or without, you know, they wanna do it as themselves. Like so much of what you talk about, , and I talk about, I tell stories about how scary it can be to take up space or the struggles with visibility and, and where that fear comes in and where the like, oh, what if I'm perceived this way or that kind of, all of those what ifs and things like, I still go through them as well, and I, and sometimes there are better days and so, There are are worse, and that that's always gonna be an ongoing issue and struggle. Sarah: Yeah. I feel like in a way, the hero's journey is part of the [00:28:00] old. Marketing paradigm as well, where we didn't share with transparency. We just shared, you know, the 6, 7, 8 figure success, right? It's like, oh look, I came from nothing and now I'm, I have an eight figure business where that just. I believe definitely doesn't resonate with our audiences, but it also will no longer resonate as much with other people because we're, we just want transparency. That's what we want today. So in a way, to me, the hero's journey, at least the way he saw it, kind of belongs to the past. we need to have different frameworks and, and I'm so glad you're, you're offering these, I Hillary: just, one thing too about the hero's journey is there's a pressure for an ending that hasn't necessarily happened yet, and yeah, one thing I really appreciate that I heard you say in conversation with, I believe, Lisa, in your conversation about storytelling, there is this idea of the messy. [00:29:00] Middle. Mm-hmm. and that they, when you let go of the hero's journey structure, there's so much storytelling that can happen about the messy middle, right? That, again, serves you as the communicator, but also the audience in all of the ways we just. Talked about Sarah: as well. Yeah, exactly. That, that's what really connects with your audience and, and, and then of course, yeah, you need to think about Brene Brown and think about the vulnerability and decide, well, how, what's the intention behind me sharing this? Is there integrity behind this? , me sharing this or, or, because right now we all know that, okay, it sells to share with vulnerability. So obviously we don't just want to share it because it sells, but because we really want to. Connect and relate with our audience. But, but yeah, the messy middle, that's where, that's where the good stories are, right? Yeah. Hillary: Yeah. And I think one set of questions I take myself through [00:30:00] and take my clients through is the, why am I telling this story? And what do I want my listener to do once they've heard this story? Mm-hmm. . And I feel like when those questions are answered and identified, the, it's like the checklist of integrity, the checklist of intentional vulnerability that's safe, both for the communicator and for the audience. It's not manipulative, it's not oversharing, all of that. So I love that too. And again, I think going back to personal power. That gives you more inner strength as the communicator to be like, oh no, this is why I'm sharing this. Yeah. And this is what I want them to do once they've heard or hope that they'll do once they've heard. Yeah. Sarah: Yeah. So good. You mentioned several times this term of , taking up space. So how does being in your personal power and telling stories from that place, how does that help us with taking up space? [00:31:00] Hillary: I found for myself, and I found it through storytelling, that when I was able to know myself and know how I wanted to share myself with other people and then find those stories that I wanted to share. I was not afraid of taking up space because it's this like my inner message of like, this is who I am. I know myself. I'm committed to myself back to one of my superpowers, and I have a reason for sharing this. Story with you. So I have no choice but to take up space because I am doing it with intention and with the goal of this. Creating a dialogue. Creating a connection. And so I believe that storytelling gives people that personal power to get comfortable being visible, to get comfortable taking up space, which marketing is getting comfortable, being visible, getting comfortable taking up space as you are. Authentic self and as the [00:32:00] expert that you are coming from that authentic, genuine place. So I think that it's like grounded in a trust of self, but then it's also, you have to trust your story and trust that it will communicate for you and do the work for you. And then there's that third piece, which is you have to also trust your audience in order to take up space and be visible. And that can be really scary too, especially if it's a audience. Is landing on a webpage and you don't know who they are listening to a podcast and you don't necessarily have a face or a name to connect. Sarah: Yeah, and I feel like. If you're doing that deeper work of really figuring out, okay, what is the core story and not, like we mentioned before, you know, what are was my education, what are my accolades and accreditations and all of that. Then you're taking up space from a different place, , not from necessarily the ego, but probably from your gut more. [00:33:00] And so it's a different, it's not. It's not an intimidating space or a, you know, ego driven space. It's just. Grounded space in a way. It's like, here I am, you know, this is what I believe in, this is what I stand for. You like it, great. I open my arms. If you don't like it, you know, feel free. , go to the next person. That's what I perceive. Hillary: I love that visualization of, of open arms and then, and like I think of it as like a heart centered right way of com, like your stories coming out of your mouth, but it's also coming out. Your heart. And I think it takes a bit of, , like I, I've never sky gone skydiving or bungee jumped, but I think it's this idea of like letting the trust and self trusts and story trust in the audience be a letting go in the moment and saying like, this is, yeah. What you said. This is who I am, this is what I believe, this is what I have to offer the [00:34:00] world here. I go, mm-hmm. . And it can feel really scary at. But it's the most freeing feeling to communicate from that space versus any other space of trying to fit into a, a template or a formula or put on a character or a facade. Like it just isn't worth it. . Yeah. Sarah: So what would you tell someone, uh, tell our listeners. If they want to, you know, you know, get this deeper trust and probably figure out their superpowers to start from where, where would they go? Hillary: Yeah. I mean, it really does start with a trust in self and I think there's a lot of brainstorming work, like even just sitting and thinking. What stories from my life are even coming to mind immediately and without trying to bring in the logical of like, well, why is this coming to mind? And all that, but just trusting the memories and the [00:35:00] brainstorming ideas that are coming to the surface and just logging them in some way. Mm-hmm. , I make my clients have something called a story bank. I think your um, Lisa mentioned something about a story bank. Mm-hmm. as well. Mm-hmm. . Um, but just logging your brainstorming ideas there and, and keeping them there and holding onto them for the time when you're ready to explore it as a story. So I take my clients through like a two hour brainstorming experience as part of the work that they do. I know a lot of my stories, idea story ideas have come from just like a, a flash of a memory that I had or an object that's in my space that reminds me of something. So I would say that's a really great place to start in terms of cultivating the trust. Mm-hmm. . And then it's a matter of, ooh, let me. Go with this one idea and let's see what happens if I add a beginning, middle, and end. I may be right some around it. Practice [00:36:00] telling the story in an off the cuff way to a friend, and then building trust in the story and the storytelling and what that can do for you. I would say those are the good places to start. The trusting audience stuff can definitely, Take longer Sarah: to, it's a muscle, right. That you kind of practice. Yeah. Yeah. What I would I add also is, is this creativity thinking. Like what, what I wrote about in the book is this idea of, for probably a decade now, we know about storytelling, but if you come from this left brain thinking, analytical mind of I have to do marketing and now I have to, you know, tell stories in my marketing, your left brain. Is an overtrained muscle where your right brain is an undertrained muscle, and so your left brain will always want to bring in some techniques and, and, and features and benefits and, and those make. Don't make for a [00:37:00] good story, right? Where really the right brain is bringing in the creative storytelling approach. And so I would say yeah, bring in some creative, , activities let that brain take off and, and, and experiment freely. , to me it really. When I understood storytelling is when my right brain turned on. I'm like, oh, okay. So it's more about connecting with my audience and not about, you know, making them do something or buy something or, or any of that. So I think that was, , yeah, important to share here. Hillary: Yeah, and I think listening to other people's stories, whether it's like in someone else's marketing, but also just. Watching videos of storytellers on YouTube or listening to storytelling podcasts, right. At any time I hear someone really like in their story and sharing, I'm connected to it, but at the same time, it's helping me think of stories from my life that I want [00:38:00] to share. Yeah. And also I know when I go for walks or. My ideas always come to the surface, and I always have like a, either on my phone or a notepad next to me. , I just shared a story about my dentist in my newsletter, and that had been, I, that appointment was in. July, I think. So I was sitting with that story just brainstorming wise until I was ready to share it and had a reason to share it with my audience as Sarah: well. Mm. Yeah. That's good. There needed to be a reason, right? Because obviously otherwise, Yeah, it's just a story, but if there's a reason for the story, then it always is more compelling. Yeah. Yes. This has been so good. Thank you so much for sharing a different, very refreshing and radical approach to storytelling. I really appreciated it. Let people know where they can find you and find out more about [00:39:00] your way of doing things. Hillary: Sure. So the best place to connect is on tell me a story's website, which is tell me a story.info. And there's also a link on that page to something called the Speak Up session. It's a monthly free gathering that I host virtually, all around storytelling and taking up space and, and visibility. And there's typically a guest storyteller that. Jumping off the ledge, ready to share their story with a, a wonderful, warm audience. And then opportunity to kind of dive into your own storytelling and communication challenges. So I invite anyone listening that wants to check that out, to sign up and Sarah: come. Wonderful. Yeah, we'll make sure we add that link in the show notes as well. Thank you so much. I have one last question, Hillary, and that is what are you grateful for today? Or this. Mm. Hillary: I mean, this is very literal, but I'm really grateful for our conversation and I'm also grateful. [00:40:00] That I reached out to you. I used my voice to reach out with you many months ago because you and your work really resonated and we had such a lovely conversation. And so I'm grateful for this relationship that has been built and for being in conversation with someone that is so aligned. It's really lovely and I'm just a fan of your work, and your work is important and much needed. So thank you. Thank Sarah: you. And likewise, thanks so much for being.