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Bill talks with national security analyst Joe Cirincione about Trump's shifting claims on Iran and argues the Memorandum Of Understanding (MOU) functions as a ceasefire and “surrender document” after a war the U.S. and Israel could not win. Cirincione says the MOU mainly restores shipping through the Strait of Hormuz while leaving core U.S. objectives—curbing Iran's uranium enrichment and missile forces—unmet and deferred to talks, and he notes Trump's renewed threats violate the pledge to refrain from force or threats of force. He contrasts the deal with the JCPOA, the Obama Nuclear Deal, saying Trump lifts broader sanctions than the JCPOA, allows Iran to sell oil, and leaves Iran geopolitically stronger, with demonstrated leverage over the strait and Gulf economies. They discuss costs rising from Pentagon estimates to broader economic impacts, Netanyahu's (and Trump's) massive miscalculation and political fallout here and in Israel. Jared Kushner's role and conflicts, and broader alliance strains including NATO.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
We now know the details of Trump's peace proposal for Iran, and it's ugly. The Iranians are making out like bandits, getting a dream deal that goes far beyond the JCPOA. Jon Wolfsthal and Joe Cirincione join David Rothkopf to examine this terrible deal and what it means for the future of Iran and the region. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
We now know the details of Trump's peace proposal for Iran, and it's ugly. The Iranians are making out like bandits, getting a dream deal that goes far beyond the JCPOA. Jon Wolfsthal and Joe Cirincione join David Rothkopf to examine this terrible deal and what it means for the future of Iran and the region. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Okay we have to say it — we told you so. The “peace deal” that Trump has struck with Iran is a fig leaf for surrender. With massive giveaways to the regime and no mention of Iran's nuclear material, it's clear that this is Trump's attempt to wash his hands of this debacle. Join Jon Wolfsthal, Joe Cirincione, and David Rothkopf as they break down Trump's latest humiliating defeat. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Okay we have to say it — we told you so. The “peace deal” that Trump has struck with Iran is a fig leaf for surrender. With massive giveaways to the regime and no mention of Iran's nuclear material, it's clear that this is Trump's attempt to wash his hands of this debacle. Join Jon Wolfsthal, Joe Cirincione, and David Rothkopf as they break down Trump's latest humiliating defeat. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Guest host Joe Cirincione interviews nuclear historian Alex Wellerstein about his book The Most Awful Responsibility: Truman and the Secret Struggle for Control of the Atomic Age, revisiting the run-up to Hiroshima and Nagasaki and the postwar fight between nuclear hawks and doves over who should control nuclear weapons. Wellerstein argues there was no single “decision” to use the bomb—plans were already underway under military control, Truman was largely excluded and poorly briefed, and he may not have known a second bomb was coming. After Nagasaki, Truman asserted presidential control to halt further use, motivated by horror at civilian casualties. They discuss debates over whether the bombings ended the war and Truman's moral framing of nuclear weapons. The events of the past have clear echoes in today's nuclear policy debates, and the dispute over Iran's nuclear program and who is telling the truth about Iran's nuclear ambitions.You can check out his Nuke Map at nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Enjoy this entire 30-minute bonus episode! To listen to future bonus content and get early access to ad-free episodes, become a subscriber today. History As It Happens Premium costs $5 per month. Why do some opponents of the abandoned JCPOA, also known as the Iran nuclear deal of 2015, continue to lie about it? Many of these critics are now the most vocal backers of President Trump and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's fiasco of a war against the Islamic Republic, which has failed in all its main objectives while leading to the closure of the Strait of Hormuz. What was actually in the JCPOA? What did it really accomplish? And why is President Trump reluctant to agree to something similar, or possibly a little better, than what President Obama came up with a decade ago? A negotiated settlement is the only way out of this war. Nuclear arms expert Joe Cirincione is our guest. Further reading: Dollars For Dust by Joe Cirincione (Strategy & History newsletter)
Guest host Joe Cirincione interviews David Rothkopf. Rothkopf is the host of the Deep State Radio podcast. He is also Chief Global Affairs Columnist at the Daily Beast and was formerly the editor-in-chief of Foreign Policy magazine. He has taught at Columbia, Georgetown and Johns Hopkins universities. He was the Deputy Undersecretary of Commerce in the Clinton Administration and is the author of ten books including, most recently, Traitor: A History of Betraying America from Benedict Arnold to Donald Trump. His newsletter "Need to Know" is available at davidrothkopf.substack.com. Cirincione talks with Rothkopf about what he calls the unfolding catastrophe of Trump's war on Iran, arguing the U.S. has repeatedly failed in Southwest Asia and that this conflict has achieved neither tactical nor strategic objectives, while causing greater-than-reported damage to U.S. bases and eroding trust in military and government accounts. Rothkopf says the war has weakened U.S. alliances, empowered Iran, Russia, and China, and further damaged America's global standing, while also tying U.S. policy to an increasingly destabilizing Israeli government. The conversation then shifts to domestic consequences, with Rothkopf alleging Trump has monetized the presidency through pervasive corruption, including favors, pardons, and an IRS-related settlement he calls theft from the Treasury. Rothkopf remains hopeful but warns against complacency, argues accountability and progress are linked, and urges resistance ahead of 2026 elections.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
What, exactly, is Trump's plan in Iran? Does he know? Does anyone? Negotiations are underway over Iran's nuclear capabilities, but the likelihood that a deal is reached that comes close to the original JCPOA is slim to none. Joe Cirincione and Jon Wolfsthal join David Rothkopf to share why the US under Trump is in a worse spot than ever with Iran and why Iran is succeeding. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
What, exactly, is Trump's plan in Iran? Does he know? Does anyone? Negotiations are underway over Iran's nuclear capabilities, but the likelihood that a deal is reached that comes close to the original JCPOA is slim to none. Joe Cirincione and Jon Wolfsthal join David Rothkopf to share why the US under Trump is in a worse spot than ever with Iran and why Iran is succeeding. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Guest host Joe Cirincione talks with Rep. James Walkinshaw (D-VA), a new member of Congress sworn in last September to fill the late Rep. Gerry Connolly's seat, about his work on Oversight and Homeland Security. Walkinshaw says DOJ remains out of compliance with the Oversight subpoena for Epstein files and is violating the Epstein Files Transparency Act through illegal redactions; he wants answers from former Attorney General Pam Bondi about who ordered the redactions and any White House involvement, noting Committee Chair Comer chose a transcribed interview rather than a deposition. He also outlines Oversight inquiries into alleged DHS misconduct by Kristi Noem and Corey Lewandowski. Walkinshaw argues accountability and affordability are linked, condemns Trump's Iran war as unconstitutional under the War Powers Act, and warns a Supreme Court Voting Rights Act ruling could spur aggressive partisan redistricting and retaliation by Blue states.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Guest host Joe Cirincione fills in for Bill Press and interviews Mother Jones investigative journalist Tim Murphy about his cover story, “Power Hungry: How the AI Oligarchy Gobbled Up America.” Murphy describes how the post–ChatGPT AI race has driven a boom in hyperscale data centers—projects the size of Central Park that demand immense electricity, water, and even on-site power plants, sometimes pushing nuclear plants like Three Mile Island to reopen. He argues this “hyperscale” moment has narrowed and intensified U.S. oligarchy, fusing concentrated tech wealth with political power, including major 2024 election spending and alliances with Donald Trump. Murphy details disruptive impacts on rural communities, secrecy via shell companies and NDAs, fears of boom-and-bust “empty hulks,” and growing bipartisan local backlash raising questions about democracy, agency, and the future envisioned by AI leaders.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Joe Cirincione, sitting in for Bill, interviews Middle East Expert Rob Malley. Rob served as a senior Middle East official under Presidents Clinton, Obama and Biden. Under Obama, he was one of the top negotiators on the 2015 Iran Nuclear Deal. Under Biden, he served as the special envoy for Iran. He is now a lecturer at Yale University, the former president of the International Crisis Group, and the co-author with Hussein Agha of a new book, Tomorrow Is Yesterday: Life, Death, and the Pursuit of Peace in Israel/Palestine. They talk about the current U.S.-Israel war with Iran, arguing that while U.S. and Israeli military power is overwhelming, political objectives are unclear and Iran retains asymmetric capabilities, including disrupting shipping through the Strait of Hormuz. Malley says Trump's public claims about Iranian concessions and battlefield success are unreliable and may fuel escalation, while reporting suggests Iran still has significant missile and small-boat capacity. He contends the war is unlawful, unnecessary, and economically disruptive, and that promised goals—destroying Iran's nuclear program, missiles, drones, or achieving regime change—have not been met and would not justify the war even if they had. Malley traces how Trump was encouraged by Netanyahu and others, but ultimately owns the decision, and argues diplomacy like the 2015 Iran Nuclear Deal (JCPOA) was the only approach that contained Iran's nuclear program. They discuss shifting Democratic opposition toward calling the war illegal, and Malley briefly connects these themes to his book Tomorrow Is Yesterday: Life, Death, and the Pursuit of Peace in Israel/Palestine. on Israel-Palestine and U.S. misunderstandings of what motivates other peoples. In Israel, Palestine and now Iran. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
The ceasefire with Iran and subsequent peace talks have taken a predictably disastrous turn. JD Vance has utterly failed as a negotiator. Trump has returned to his maximalist aggression and threatens to blockade the Strait of Hormuz. It's clear that America, and the world, are in danger. Joe Cirincione and Jon Wolfsthal join David Rothkopf to take a look at what makes the President's latest moves so perilous and why a fundamental change in the way we perceive our democracy is needed to right the ship. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
The ceasefire with Iran and subsequent peace talks have taken a predictably disastrous turn. JD Vance has utterly failed as a negotiator. Trump has returned to his maximalist aggression and threatens to blockade the Strait of Hormuz. It's clear that America, and the world, are in danger. Joe Cirincione and Jon Wolfsthal join David Rothkopf to take a look at what makes the President's latest moves so perilous and why a fundamental change in the way we perceive our democracy is needed to right the ship. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In case you haven't heard, Trump decided we need to go to war with Iran. What is the strategy here? Does our President even have one, or are we at the mercy of an idiot guided solely by ridiculous impulses? Joe Cirincione, Jon Wolfsthal and Ed Luce join David Rothkopf to discuss the current situation in Iran, what this means for the US, and why we're even there in the first place. Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In case you haven't heard, Trump decided we need to go to war with Iran. What is the strategy here? Does our President even have one, or are we at the mercy of an idiot guided solely by ridiculous impulses? Joe Cirincione, Jon Wolfsthal and Ed Luce join David Rothkopf to discuss the current situation in Iran, what this means for the US, and why we're even there in the first place. Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
The U.S. is now at war in Iran after Donald Trump launched strikes without Congressional authorization, despite campaigning against regime change and new wars. Rep. Jim McGovern (D) Massachusetts, argues there is no justification or clearly defined mission, warns of quagmire-like consequences, rising costs, and criticizes Republicans and House leadership for blocking debate and ignoring Congress's constitutional role and the War Powers Act, citing prior votes tied to Venezuela. National security analyst Joe Cirincione says the administration's claims of an imminent threat collapsed, asserting Iran lacks missiles to reach the U.S. and is not close to a nuclear weapon; he frames the conflict as a regime-change war pushed by Israel and Saudi Arabia, worsened by Trump's exit from the 2015 nuclear deal and bad-faith negotiations. They discuss risks including wider regional escalation, oil shocks, global recession, and damaged U.S. credibility. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Anthropic Stands Up to Hegseth. Arrest in NYPD Snowstorm Attack. More ICE Carnage. Movers Save Abducted 3-Year Old. Epstein Files Missing Claims Against Trump. Hegseth Attacks…The Boy Scouts. War with Iran could happen this weekend — and that's not hyperbole. In Episode 451 of Independent Americans, Paul Rieckhoff brings in nuclear policy expert Joe Cirincione to break down what U.S. intelligence actually says about the Iran threat (spoiler: it doesn't back Trump's claims), the terrifying intersection of AI and nuclear weapons, and why removing humans from the kill-decision chain isn't just bad policy — it's existential. Plus: the jaw-dropping standoff between Anthropic and the Pentagon, where one of America's top AI companies is refusing to let the government use its technology for mass surveillance or autonomous weapons. This episode also covers Pakistan declaring open war on Afghanistan, a U.S. military laser accidentally shooting down a CBP drone in El Paso, Hegseth's culture war on the Boy Scouts while real wars loom, a draft executive order seeking expanded presidential control over elections, and ICE's continued lawless rampage — including the death of a blind Buffalo refugee abandoned in the cold. Episode 451 is essential listening for anyone trying to understand the most dangerous national security moment since the Cold War. Subscribe, share, and stay vigilant. -WATCH full video of this episode here. -Learn more about Paul's work to elect a new generation of independent leaders with Independent Veterans of America. -Learn more about American Veterans for Ukraine here. Connect with Independent Americans: Subscribe on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and all podcast platforms Read more at Substack Support ad-free episodes at Patreon Connect: Instagram • X/Twitter • BlueSky • Facebook Follow on social: @PaulRieckhoff on X, Instagram, Threads, and Bluesky -Join the movement. Hook into our exclusive Patreon community of Independent Americans. Get extra content, connect with guests, meet other Independent Americans, attend events, get merch discounts, and support this show that speaks truth to power. -And get cool IA and Righteous hats, t-shirts and other merch now in time for the new year. Independent Americans is powered by veteran-owned and led Righteous Media. And now part of the BLEAV network! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Donald Trump has not “obliterated” Iran's nuclear arms program as his administration would like you to believe, and now he is threatening to send another carrier battle group into the Persian Gulf. As tensions continue to rise in the Middle East, it is clear that the dialogue around nuclear arms control is not just a relic of the Cold War. Joe Cirincione and Jon Wolfsthal join David Rothkopf to discuss the current state of arms control. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Subscribe now to listen to this entire 28-minute episode (or preview 7 minutes). Nuclear arms control, RIP. The expiration of the New START treaty, agreed in 2010, marks the end of an era that began in 1972 with the first major U.S.-Soviet strategic nuclear arms pact brokered by Nixon and Brezhnev. In this episode, weapons control expert Joe Cirincione reflects on the new arms race underway and the potential for more countries to take the nuclear leap, plunging the planet into a dangerous new era. Recommended reading: The Greatest Nuclear Threat by Joe Cirincione (Strategy & History newsletter) Why Trump Let Nuclear Arms Control Die by Stephen Holmes (Project Syndicate)
Donald Trump has not “obliterated” Iran's nuclear arms program as his administration would like you to believe, and now he is threatening to send another carrier battle group into the Persian Gulf. As tensions continue to rise in the Middle East, it is clear that the dialogue around nuclear arms control is not just a relic of the Cold War. Joe Cirincione and Jon Wolfsthal join David Rothkopf to discuss the current state of arms control. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In this episode, Bill talks with Joe Cirincione, an expert on global security. And the unofficial foreign policy guru of The Bill Press Pod. He and Bill discuss the situations in Venezuela, Greenland, Cuba, Iran, Ukraine, Gaza and Minnesota. Cirincione discusses the challenges faced in global security caused by Trump and provides insights into how good policy can shape a safer world. Which is not what's happening now. To follow Joe's great work, go to JoeCirincione.substack.com .Today's Bill Press Pod is supported by The American Federation of Teachers and their powerful leader, President Randi Weingarten. More information at AFT.org. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Original Air Date: 3/3/25 What happens when the United States effectively switches sides on the global stage? When allying with Russia upends decades of foreign policy around the world? And what dangers does the Trump-Hegseth administration pose for global nuclear security? Joe Cirincione and Jon Wolfsthal join David Rothkopf for a tough conversation about the future of the established international order and the significant nuclear security risks posed by the Trump Administration. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Original Air Date: 3/3/25 What happens when the United States effectively switches sides on the global stage? When allying with Russia upends decades of foreign policy around the world? And what dangers does the Trump-Hegseth administration pose for global nuclear security? Joe Cirincione and Jon Wolfsthal join David Rothkopf for a tough conversation about the future of the established international order and the significant nuclear security risks posed by the Trump Administration. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In this episode, Bill and National Security Analyst Joe Cirincione discuss the implications of recent U.S. foreign policy actions under Donald Trump's administration. They focus on the escalating military actions in Venezuela, the Trump administration's unauthorized and potentially illegal military strikes against alleged drug smugglers, and the broader historical context of U.S. involvement in Latin America. The conversation also touches on the controversial peace plan proposed for Ukraine, which heavily favors Russian interests, and the precarious ceasefire situation in Gaza. Additionally, they examine Saudi Arabia's influence on U.S. policy, highlighting Trump's controversial relationships with foreign leaders like Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman. The episode underscores the complexities and contradictions of current U.S. foreign policy and raises questions about its legality and effectiveness.Today Bill suggests a great holiday gift, the hand-woven scarves by Carol Press. Check them out at CarolPressScarves.com.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Subscribe now to skip ads, get bonus content, and enjoy access to the entire catalog of 500 episodes. Keep the narrative flow going! The hit Netflix film "House of Dynamite" depicts a terrifying scenario. The United States is under nuclear attack as a lone ICBM heads for a major city, but no one knows who launched it. The president has the authority to retaliate, but against whom? In this episode, nuclear arms expert Joe Cirincione says the moral of the story is that an accidental nuclear war is indeed possible as the world witnesses a new arms race. (Note: Audio excerpts of "House of Dynamite" are courtesy Netflix.) Further reading/listening: To Love the Bomb (podcast) Donald Trump's Deep Nuclear Confusion by Joe Cirincione on Substack
Original air date: November 15, 2024 As the United States is entering a new nuclear age and a new global arms race, what does a second Trump term mean for our national security? What do the plans of Project 2025 mean for the American nuclear weapons force? How will such modernization and weapon buildup affect America's relationships with both its allies and enemies? Joe Cirincione joins Jon to help navigate the lunacy of this new administration and the very real and very serious dangers we are now facing…. And how they might get worse. Listen here. Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Original air date: November 15, 2024 As the United States is entering a new nuclear age and a new global arms race, what does a second Trump term mean for our national security? What do the plans of Project 2025 mean for the American nuclear weapons force? How will such modernization and weapon buildup affect America's relationships with both its allies and enemies? Joe Cirincione joins Jon to help navigate the lunacy of this new administration and the very real and very serious dangers we are now facing…. And how they might get worse. Listen here. Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Looks like nuclear testing is back on the menu! This week, our President decided that it was time to resume nuclear testing after an over 30 year hiatus. But why now? Our friends Joe Cirincione and Jon Wolfsthal join David Rothkopf to try and make sense of this bizarre new policy. As a bonus, tune in for an expert review of “House of Dynamite” and just how accurate the new movie really is. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Looks like nuclear testing is back on the menu! This week, our President decided that it was time to resume nuclear testing after an over 30 year hiatus. But why now? Our friends Joe Cirincione and Jon Wolfsthal join David Rothkopf to try and make sense of this bizarre new policy. As a bonus, tune in for an expert review of “House of Dynamite” and just how accurate the new movie really is. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Original Air Date: March 3, 2025 What happens when the United States effectively switches sides on the global stage? When allying with Russia upends decades of foreign policy around the world? And what dangers does the Trump-Hegseth administration pose for global nuclear security? Joe Cirincione and Jon Wolfsthal join David Rothkopf for a tough conversation about the future of the established international order and the significant nuclear security risks posed by the Trump Administration. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Original Air Date: March 3, 2025 What happens when the United States effectively switches sides on the global stage? When allying with Russia upends decades of foreign policy around the world? And what dangers does the Trump-Hegseth administration pose for global nuclear security? Joe Cirincione and Jon Wolfsthal join David Rothkopf for a tough conversation about the future of the established international order and the significant nuclear security risks posed by the Trump Administration. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In this episode, Bill and National Security Analyst Joe Cirincione discuss a historic meeting at the White House with multiple world leaders uninvitedly uniting to support Ukrainian President Zelensky and sway President Trump to maintain the alliance commitments to Ukraine. The episode delves into the strategic maneuvering used by European leaders to manipulate Trump through flattery and offers, highlighting how these tactics have momentarily shored up Western support for Ukraine. The discussion extends to the implications of potential US troop involvement, and the complexities surrounding the possibility of Ukraine joining NATO. Plus a brutal assessment of the Putin's Alaska Summit with Trump. Additionally, the episode touches on other geopolitical hot spots, notably the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and the potential shift in public and political sentiment against Netanyahu's aggressive Gaza strategy. Finally, the conversation veers into the enduring threat of nuclear weapons, recommending Annie Jacobson's book 'Nuclear War: A Scenario' as a gripping read on the subject. Today Bill highlights the work of The Ploughshares, an organization committed to eliminating the threat of nuclear weapons. More information at Ploughshares.orgSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
August marks 80 years since the United States dropped two atomic bombs on the Japanese cities Hiroshima and Nagasaki, killing an estimated 210,000 people. Setsuko Thurlow, who survived that day, shares her experience and her message for us all amid today's nuclear tensions. Then, Megan Williams speaks with historian and journalist Garrett Graff and national security analyst Joe Cirincione about how this event paved the path to our current nuclear world, and where things may go next.
Guest host Megan Williams speaks with senior economics lecturer Moshe Lander and Canadian Global Affairs Institute vice president Colin Robertson about Canada's options without a Trump trade deal in place, we reflect on the legacy of the atomic bombings of Japan with survivor and nuclear disarmament advocate Setsuko Thurlow, historian Garrett Graff and national security analyst Joe Cirincione, Canada's former ambassador to Israel Jon Allen and former adviser to the Palestine Liberation Organization Diana Buttu discuss Canada's plan to recognize Palestinian statehood, and automotive journalist Mark Richardson uncovers the stories that paved the Trans-Canada Highway.Discover more at https://www.cbc.ca/sunday
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Matt is joined by nonproliferation expert Joe Cirincione to unpack what the recent US and Israeli strikes on Iran actually achieved—and what they didn't. They discuss the extent of the damage to Iran's nuclear program, why military action alone can't stop a country from getting the bomb, and what a viable diplomatic path forward might look like. Joe breaks down the technical realities of uranium enrichment and covert weapons development, explores whether Iran now has the intent as well as the capability to build a nuclear weapon, and explains how this crisis risks pushing the world back toward nuclear anarchy. They also consider what future proliferators might be learning from the Iran case, and what comes next for the global arms control regime. Subscribe and share to stay ahead in the world of intelligence, geopolitics, and current affairs. Follow Joe on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/joecirin.bsky.social Follow Joe's Substack: https://joecirincione.substack.com Please share this episode using these links Audio: https://pod.fo/e/2f82e0 YouTube: https://youtu.be/IFJAPL9dg4A Additional reading for the episode "Iran and the Changing Character of the Nonproliferation Regime" by Joseph Rodgers | Center for Strategic & International Studies: https://www.csis.org/analysis/iran-and-changing-character-nonproliferation-regime "Disruption or Dismantlement: Diverging Assessments of Iran Nuclear Strikes" by Bailey Schiff | CSIS Next-Generation Nuclear Network: https://nuclearnetwork.csis.org/disruption-or-dismantlement-diverging-assessments-of-iran-nuclear-strikes/ "Post-Attack Assessment of the First 12 Days of Israeli and US Strikes on Iranian Nuclear Facilities" by David Albright, Spencer Faragasso, and the Good ISIS Team | Institute for Science & International Security: https://isis-online.org/isis-reports/post-attack-assessment-of-the-first-12-days-of-israeli-strikes-on-iranian-nuclear-facilities "Going for the Bomb: Part I, Pathways and Timelines" by David Albright | Institute for Science & International Security: https://isis-online.org/isis-reports/going-for-the-bomb-part-i-pathways-and-timelines "Going for the Bomb: Part II, Tasks to Make a Crude Nuclear Weapon" by David Albright and Andrea Stricker | Institute for Science & International Security: https://isis-online.org/isis-reports/going-for-the-bomb-part-ii-tasks-to-make-a-crude-nuclear-weapon "Iran Suspends Cooperation With UN Nuclear Watchdog" by Erika Solomon and Sanam Mahoozi | The New York Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/02/world/middleeast/iran-nuclear-iaea.html "Pentagon Says US Strike Delayed Iran's Nuclear Program by Up to Two Years" by Lara Seligman and Michael R. Gordon | The Wall Street Journal: https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/pentagon-says-u-s-strike-delayed-irans-nuclear-program-by-up-to-two-years-8d51eb81 "What Is the Iran Nuclear Deal?" by Kali Robinson | Council on Foreign Relations: https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/what-iran-nuclear-deal Support Secrets and Spies Become a “Friend of the Podcast” on Patreon for £3/$4: https://www.patreon.com/SecretsAndSpies Buy merchandise from our shop: https://www.redbubble.com/shop/ap/60934996 Subscribe to our YouTube page: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDVB23lrHr3KFeXq4VU36dg For more information about the podcast, check out our website: https://secretsandspiespodcast.com Connect with us on social media Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/secretsandspies.bsky.social Instagram: https://instagram.com/secretsandspies Facebook: https://facebook.com/secretsandspies Spoutible: https://spoutible.com/SecretsAndSpies Follow Chris and Matt on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/chriscarrfilm.bsky.social https://bsky.app/profile/mattfulton.net Secrets and Spies is produced by F & P LTD. Music by Andrew R. Bird Photos by Morteza Nikoubazl/NurPhoto & Hossein Beris/Middle East Images Secrets and Spies sits at the intersection of intelligence, covert action, real-world espionage, and broader geopolitics in a way that is digestible but serious. Hosted by filmmaker Chris Carr and writer Matt Fulton, each episode examines the very topics that real intelligence officers and analysts consider on a daily basis through the lens of global events and geopolitics, featuring expert insights from former spies, authors, and journalists.
Israel and the United States justified their war against Iran on claims that its nuclear program posed an existential threat. Iran had no nuclear weapons, but the nature of its enrichment program exceeds what is necessary for peaceful energy production. An unintended consequence of U.S. and Israeli belligerence, say non-proliferation experts, could be that Iran now secretly races for a bomb. If the lesson here is that the only way to guarantee national security is to obtain nuclear deterrence, other nation-states might also break from the global non-proliferation regime. In this episode, national security analyst and career arms control expert Joe Cirincione takes us inside Iran's program and its implications for the rest of the world. Cirincione is one of a few Americans to have visited Iran's Isfahan uranium enrichment facility. Further reading: Strategy & History newsletter by Joe Cirincione
The dust has begun to settle on the US bombing of Iranian nuclear facilities, but the situation isn't much clearer than before. Iran has retaliated against US bases in the region, so what comes next? Alon Pinkas, David Sanger, and Joe Cirincione join David Rothkopf to break down the current state of the conflict, assess the next moves for the key players, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
The dust has begun to settle on the US bombing of Iranian nuclear facilities, but the situation isn't much clearer than before. Iran has retaliated against US bases in the region, so what comes next? Alon Pinkas, David Sanger, and Joe Cirincione join David Rothkopf to break down the current state of the conflict, assess the next moves for the key players, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In this episode of the Bill Press Pod, our own foreign policy expert, Joe Cirincione, discussed several pressing foreign policy issues. Cirincione is a National Security Analyst with decades of experience in DC. They began by touching on King Charles' historic visit to Canada for the parliamentary opening—a gesture seen as supportive of Canada amid criticism from Donald Trump. They then shifted focus to Trump's peculiar interest in Greenland, interpreting it as a potential financial motivation rather than geopolitical strategy.The conversation moved towards the ongoing conflict in Ukraine, where Russia launched its largest attacks in three years. Cirincione criticized Trump's lack of military support for Ukraine and highlighted the strategic miscalculations of both Trump and Putin, suggesting that Putin is manipulating Trump for his own benefit.They also talked about the leadership of Ukrainian President Zelensky, praising his resilience in the face of adversity, and provided insights into the situation in Gaza. Cirincione described the Israeli military strategy under Netanyahu as destructive, with plans to essentially depopulate Gaza.The discussion also touched on the U.S.'s dwindling support for its NATO allies, suggesting that Europe may need to step up and take independent action in global politics, particularly given Trump's erratic foreign policy.Today's Bill Press Pod is supported by The American Federation of Teachers. More information at AFT.org.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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What happens when the United States effectively switches sides on the global stage? When allying with Russia upends decades of foreign policy around the world? And what dangers does the Trump-Hegseth administration pose for global nuclear security? Joe Cirincione and Jon Wolfsthal join David Rothkopf for a tough conversation about the future of the established international order and the significant nuclear security risks posed by the Trump Administration. Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
What happens when the United States effectively switches sides on the global stage? When allying with Russia upends decades of foreign policy around the world? And what dangers does the Trump-Hegseth administration pose for global nuclear security? Joe Cirincione and Jon Wolfsthal join David Rothkopf for a tough conversation about the future of the established international order and the significant nuclear security risks posed by the Trump Administration. Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
A new nuclear arms race is underway. Almost all the landmark treaties of the Cold War and post-Cold War period restricting the U.S. and Russian arsenals are no longer in effect, having been abrogated or abandoned. China is arming. Other states may be interested in joining the nuclear club, despite the strictures of the non-proliferation treaty of 1968. In this episode, nuclear weapons expert Joe Cirincione, who writes Strategy & History on Substack, discusses the "arms control extinction" and the potential consequences of President-elect Trump's proposals, as stated in Project 2025, to spend trillions in building up America's arsenal. Further reading: The Arms Control Extinction by Joseph Cirincione, Strategy & History on Substack
Today's guest is our go to man on Foreign Policy and National Security, Joe Cirincione. He is the former President of the Plowshares Fund and a member of the Council on Foreign Relations. He and Bill cover a wide range of global crises and upheaval, including the sudden collapse of the Assad regime in Syria, ongoing conflicts in Ukraine, Gaza, and South Korea, and the prospect of Donald Trump returning to power. Cirincione provides insights on the key events and their geopolitical implications, such as the surprising fall of the Assad government, the weakening of Russia and Iran's influence in the region, and the risks a Trump presidency would pose in terms of nuclear proliferation and global instability. Cirincione emphasizes the need for U.S. leadership and support to help rebuild Syria and stabilize Europe, while cautioning against Trump's isolationist tendencies and potential to undermine existing international alliances and security frameworks. You can read and subscribe to Joe Cirincione's excellent Substack, Strategy and History here. Today Bill suggests a great holiday gift, a handwoven scarf from his wife Carol. These are all works of art in rayon chenille or bamboo. Check them out at CarolPressScarves.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Ronald Reagan was the most consequential U.S. president of the second half of the twentieth century. Conservatives once lionized him before the rise of Donald Trump. Yet how Reagan is remembered does not entirely square with his actual record. Although an anti-government, anti-Communist ideologue, Reagan governed like a pragmatist. Moreover, the fortieth president was a terrible manager with a flimsy grasp of policy. His administration was rife with scandal. When he left office, the federal deficit had nearly tripled. Despite it all, Reagan was an effective national leader who inspired Americans to feel proud of their country again. In this episode, historian and biographer Max Boot delves into the life and times of "The Great Communicator" whose Hollywood and television careers prepared him for political success. Further reading/listening: Reagan: His Life and Legend by Max Boot When Reagan Pressured Israel (podcast) with Salim Yaqub Election of 1980 (podcast) with Jeremi Suri and Jeffrey Engel Star Wars (podcast) with Joe Cirincione
As the United States is entering a new nuclear age and a new global arms race, what does a second Trump term mean for our national security? What do the plans of Project 2025 mean for the American nuclear weapons force? How will such modernization and weapon buildup affect America's relationships with both its allies and enemies? Joe Cirincione joins Jon to help navigate the lunacy of this new administration and the very real and very serious dangers we are now facing…. And how they might get worse. Listen here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Veteran national security analyst and nuclear policy expert Joe Cirincione joins Jon to discuss the changing global nuclear landscape. Is there still arms control in this new and modernizing nuclear age? What do these large investments into nuclear weapons systems mean for our national security? And where are Russia and China in this conversation? Find out more here: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
The world has lived in the nuclear age for nearly 79 years. In that time, bombs have multiplied and gotten bigger, but has the debate over nuclear weapons, use, arms control and how technology affects security changed? Joe Cirincione joins Jon Wolfsthal for a look at how the US has grappled with nuclear policy and other key issues over time. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices