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The times they are a-changin' and the world is a-changin' the way it thinks about AI. As we grapple with this powerful technology, numerous debates over AI's ethics, impact on labor, impact on the environment, and more have erupted. MIT Technology Review editor in chief Mat Honan joins David Rothkopf to dissect these critical questions surrounding artificial intelligence and more. This material is distributed by TRG Advisory Services, LLC on behalf of the Embassy of the United Arab Emirates in the U.S.. Additional information is available at the Department of Justice, Washington, DC. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
The recent attacks in Minnesota are part of clear and troubling rise in political violence in the U.S. At the same time, President Trump and MAGA continue to normalize violence in political discourse. How do the events of the past week reflect a changing political climate? What does the discourse around political violence tell us? And what is the connection between MAGA and American gun culture? Tune in as David Rothkopf and Norm Ornstein address all this and more. Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
President Trump is furious over a new poll from Fox News, and understandably so. It finds his approval upside down, with 54 percent disapproving. His standing is deeply underwater on many major issues, and remarkably, that includes immigration. So he erupted on Truth Social, fuming that Fox's pollster is “crooked” and has been “discredited,” and even (gasp!) that “MAGA hates Fox News.” But the surest sign of Trump's fury is that White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt rushed to soothe the Audience of One with a ridiculous, gushing tirade designed to create the grotesquely false impression that he has the support of a very large majority of Americans. We talked to former U.S. attorney and podcaster Harry Litman, who has a good piece for The New Republic about Trump's mounting losses and failures. He digs into the absurd disconnect between suggesting that Trump's support reaches deep into all corners of American life, as Leavitt did, and waging an all-out war on Blue America—and how that war is only wounding him further. Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
We're in a brave new political world under the Trump administration. Simon Rosenberg and Tara McGowan are back with David Rothkopf to explore the new political landscape including low approval ratings, the art of the distraction, and why now is the time for everyone to be an activist. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On the DSR Daily for Thursday, we break down the US beginning evacuations of personnel from Israel, the State Department's new policy for screening student visa applicants, the Supreme Court's ruling against transgender care for minors, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth faced striking questioning from Democratic Senator Elyssa Slotkin on Wednesday. She grilled him on whether he had given an order allowing members of the military to shoot unarmed protesters if necessary. She also pressed him on whether the military has the authority to arrest protesters. Hegseth stonewalled. What his obfuscation ended up revealing, though, is this: He knows that in response to Democratic questioning, he cannot be seen reassuring the broader public about the military's intentions toward civilians and especially toward Blue America. Trump would perceive this as weakness and as capitulation. Which itself reveals something deeply unnerving about the Trump-MAGA threat. We talked to Guardian columnist Moira Donegan, author of a great new piece about Trump's military parade. about Trump's military parade. She digs into the darker implications of Hegseth's testimony and explains why the sheer spectacle of authoritarianism is so central to the Trump-MAGA project. Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
At this point, it's anyone's guess as to what the US will do next in Iran. Apparently, not even our President knows what's coming next. Will we enter the war? More importantly, should we? Esteemed guests Rosa Brooks, Kori Schake, and CSIS's Max Bergmann join host David Rothkopf to try and answer these questions and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On the DSR Daily for Wednesday, we discuss Trump's demands for unconditional surrender, the arrest of NYC mayoral candidate Brad Lander, doubts over the passage of a GOP-backed megabill, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
President Trump appears dead set on joining Israel's war with Iran. After a period of negotiations, Trump has now tweeted that he wants Iran's “UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER!” The New York Times has a deep dive into his deliberations, and the findings are shocking. Trump is ready for war even though our own intelligence assessments don't support the case for it. And incredibly, the Times reports, Trump was influenced on all this by what he saw on Fox News, which broadcast relentless imagery of Israel's “genius” bombing of Iran. This led Trump to want “some credit for himself” for the attack, after which he “began hinting that he had played a bigger behind-the-scenes role in the war than people realized.” He then leaned more towards escalation. We talked to veteran national security hand Matt Duss, executive vice president at the Center for International Policy, who has a great piece for Foreign Policy magazine on the situation. He explains why the case for war is so weak, how Trump is getting manipulated into it so easily, and what to expect as all this unfolds. Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On the DSR Daily for Tuesday, we cover the latest from the Iran/Israel conflict, a federal judge ruling against some NIH grant cuts, the Department of Homeland Security restarting raids on farms, hotels, and restaurants, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
After the horrific assassination of a Democratic state legislator in Minnesota, President Trump at first correctly stressed that such violence is absolutely intolerable. But then he uncorked a long, vile, unhinged tirade on Truth Social, threatening to unleash ICE raids more directly on Democratic cities while denouncing them as radical, dangerous and “sick.” Coming after the assassination, this was almost akin to a call for more targeting of Democrats and liberals. It's no accident this came right after we saw enormous outpourings of peaceful “No Kings” protests across the country. The contrast between these and Trump's North Korean-style military parade (not to mention the assassination) amounted to a fiasco for Trump. As Kim Scheppele, a scholar of authoritarianism, noted in a good piece for The Contrarian, a big story about this weekend's events was the spectacle of peaceful dissent meeting menace from Trump-aligned forces. We talked to Scheppele about how political violence is overwhelmingly aligned in this country with the MAGA right, and why we're now sliding into what she calls the “danger zone.” Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On the DSR Daily for Monday, we break down the arrest of the suspect in the assassination of State Rep. Melissa Hortman, Israel's warning to Tehran, the spectacular failure of the military parade in DC, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In a little-noticed rant, President Donald Trump furiously vowed on Truth Social that he will now carry out something called “remigration.” This idea is widely prevalent among global white nationalists who see it as key to their vile goal of building white ethnostates, so his open endorsement of it is significant. That comes as a U.S. Democratic Senator has been violently tackled and handcuffed, as Trump dispatches troops into Los Angeles, and as his Homeland Security secretary suggests those troops will “liberate” L.A. from its elected Democratic leadership. We talked to Will Sommer, senior reporter at The Bulwark and author of a great piece on the fresh levels of bloodlust all this is inspiring in MAGA media. We discuss the centrality of sadism and violent lawlessness to the MAGA movement—and why this is pushing us toward a watershed moment. Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Original air date: June 24, 2024 Former CIA senior intelligence service officer Daniel Hoffman joins Marc Polymeropoulos to reveal the intersection of an amazing spy story, a heartwarming love story, a family's resilience in overcoming tragedy, and what ultimately matters most in life. Don't miss this special episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Original air date: June 19, 2024 With consequential elections coming up in Britain, France, and the US, monumental change is on the horizon . In a special two-part episode, Clive Priddle and Ed Luce join David Rothkopf to forecast the upcoming elections while members will hear from Kori Schake and Rosa Brooks on the most impactful headlines from around the world. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In case you missed it, things are still not great here in the United States. Thankfully, we have Ed Luce joining David Rothkopf to break down this administration's current actions. What does the militarization of law enforcement mean for civil liberties? How are governors like Gavin Newsom stepping up? Find out right here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Israel's shocking strikes on Iran has put the region in a perilous position. What was the calculus behind Netanyahu's decision to strike? How will Iran respond? What does the Trump administration do now that negotiations have gone up in Smoke? To answer all these questions and more, we have a special two part episode with our favorite experts. Part one features a conversation between Rosa Brooks, Steven Cook, Alon Pinkas, and David Rothkopf while Jon Wolfsthal joins David in part two. You won't want to miss this important episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Stephen Miller had a shouting match Thursday with a GOP Senator over Miller's demand for massive funds for deportations, which Republicans are debating right now. Yet at around the same time, President Donald Trump openly admitted that his deportations are badly hurting farmers by removing their workers—and described those undocumented workers as “impossible to replace.” Miller is demanding supercharged deportation numbers on the grounds that migrants are criminals and/or displace U.S. workers, but Trump admitted Miller's deportation agenda is targeting good, hard-working people who aren't taking jobs from Americans and that their removal hurts the economy. This—along with the shocking manhandling of Democratic Senator Alex Padilla by Homeland Security goons and the backlash to Trump's dispatching of troops to Los Angeles—suggests the MAGA coalition is coming under serious strains on immigration. We talked about all this with Tori Gavito, the president of Way To Win, who also discusses the group's new polling showing Democrats have an opening to go on offense on the issue. Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On the DSR Daily for Thursday, we cover the US evacuating personnel from the Middle East, Netanyahu surviving an attempt to dissolve parliament, a horrifying plane crash, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
We tend to be a bit negative about this administration on the DSR Network. But in spite of our negativity, is there actually some hope for a new nuclear deal with Iran? Experts Joe Cirincione and Jon Wolfsthal join David Rothkopf to discuss why Trump's particular style of diplomacy may, or may not, give way to success in nuclear arms regulation. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
News organizations have been credulously amplifying the White House's spin that sending troops into Los Angeles is great politics for President Trump. But the evidence isn't cooperating. On Tuesday, White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt lost her temper amid tough questioning about Trump's threat to unleash “force” on protesters. She snapped that one reporter had asked a “stupid question,” and seethed angrily at a second reporter's legitimate query, showing how weak the White House's arguments on this have truly become. And a new Quinnipiac poll finds Trump's approval tanking, crucially including on immigration. We talked to Jennifer Rubin, editor-in-chief of The Contrarian, who has a new piece arguing that California is a test run for Trump. She explains why the media needs to do better at conveying just how unpopular Trump's authoritarian tactics truly are—and why failing to do so could embolden him. Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On the DSR Daily for Wednesday, we discuss Trump's warning to protesters in DC, the US and China reaching a preliminary trade deal, Elon backing down from his feud with Trump, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On Tuesday, President Donald Trump issued a direct promise to use “heavy force” on protesters who dare show up to his military parade this weekend. He made no distinction between peaceful and violent protesters, an extraordinary threat of violence that he didn't bother disguising. Trump has also repeatedly erupted in anger at California Governor Gavin Newsom, ripping him with vile slurs and telling dimwitted lies about his administration's decision to deploy federal troops in the Golden State. All this comes as a new YouGov poll finds that only small minorities approve of his deployment of the National Guard and the Marines to Los Angeles, a striking rebuke given that Trump is staking so much on this battle. We talked to data analyst G. Elliott Morris, author of the Strength in Numbers Substack, who explains why threats of authoritarian violence are not necessarily good politics for Trump—and why the media keeps credulously pretending otherwise. Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On the DSR Daily for Tuesday, we break down the deployment of 700 Marines to LA, RFK Jr. removing all current members of the CDC vaccine advisory committee, the Smithsonian resisting Trump's influence, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Over the weekend, President Donald Trump ordered up the National Guard to deal with violence that broke out in Los Angeles amid protests of Trump's immigration policies. This has angered California Governor Gavin Newsom, who is suing to stop it. But then Trump expressly told reporters that he might send the Marines into California. He also openly endorsed the idea that federal law enforcement should arrest Newsom based on zero legal basis. Taken together, those moves show Trump's perpetual threat to unleash troops on Americans getting much darker and more unnerving. We talked to former federal prosecutor Barbara McQuade, author of the book Attack from Within: How Disinformation is Sabotaging America. She explains why Trump's moves are increasingly lawless, how this is all posing a severe test to our system, and ponders whether we're passing that test—or failing it. Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Trump's deployment of the National Guard to California is not just about immigration and Los Angeles - it is a damning step in his long-lasting effort to to exploit and deploy the U.S. military to act as his own personal police force. Miles Taylor, former DHS Chief of Staff who endured persecution for his criticisms of the Trump administration, joins Norm Ornstein and David Rothkopf to discuss the disastrous implications of Los Angeles and explain why “people should be more worried about this than anything they've seen so far in the second Trump administration.” Tune in here. Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Octopus Energy, a global technology and energy company, was founded in the UK 10 years ago with the goal of helping to transform electric utilities. It created Kraken, a cloud-based platform that helps utilities and their customers manage data from smart meters, electric vehicles, distributed energy resources and more. Join host David Sandalow as he talks with Nick Chaset, CEO of Octopus Energy US, about Octopus, Kraken, AI in the power sector, and strategies for combining grid flexibility and data center load growth. AI for Climate Change Mitigation Roadmap -- https://www.icef.go.jp/roadmap and transitiondigital.org/ai-climate-roadmap. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On the DSR Daily for Monday, we cover the clashes between protesters and authorities in LA, the Israeli seizure of a Gaza-bound aid boat, today's trade talks between the US and China, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Fox News hosts have gotten very aggressive in pinning down Trump officials over the failures of Trump's trade agenda. Stuart Varney sharply questioned a top official over the loss of manufacturing jobs in the latest jobs report, and Maria Bartiromo usefully prodded a second official over the failure to produce trade deals. Taken together, these constitute a surprise admission that the latest machinations involving Trump's tariffs reveal that they aren't coming close to having their advertised effects. Meanwhile, an extraordinary Washington Post report reveals that administration officials are scrambling to reverse large numbers of firings under Elon Musk's Department of Government Efficiency, another serious admission of what a fiasco DOGE remains. On today's episode, economist Kathryn Edwards usefully explains how all these developments reveal a deeper set of failings driving Trump's vision and worldview, possibly putting us on a slow drift toward recession. Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On the DSR Weekly Wrap-Up for Friday, we cover the worsening break-up between Trump and Musk, Netanyahu's stunning admission, the upcoming military parade in DC, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Original air date: June 28, 2024 Putin is a firm believer in the old adage “the enemy of my enemy is my friend.” Russia has been working with a growing cluster of anti-US countries to advance his interests since the invasion of Ukraine, including Iran and North Korea. Nicole Grajewski and Andrey Baklitskiy join Jon to analyze Russia's ‘cluster of discontent' and more. Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Original air date: June 28, 2024 Thursday's debate was certainly something. Much of the Democratic camp is sounding the alarm after President Biden's less than stellar performance, and discussions are swirling on whether or not it's time for a new candidate. Norm Ornstein and Kavita Patel join David Rothkopf on this special episode to discuss what happened and where we go from here. Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
As you've surely heard, the feud between Donald Trump and Elon Musk has erupted, with the two men trading attacks on each other for hours. As of this recording, the last big things to happen are that Trump threatened to cut off all government contracts to Musk's companies, and Musk then dropped what he called a “big bomb”—that Trump is in the "Epstein files." Former GOP strategist and Never Trumper Rick Wilson grasps the inner pathologies of MAGA like no one else, so we talked to Wilson about the latest Trump-Musk madness. He offers a counterintuitive take on why Musk's attacks on Trump will trigger MAGA's paranoid obsessions in an unexpectedly explosive way, why he thinks Musk has more weapons in this battle than Trump does, and why the White House has almost certainly entered into a “full panic” about where this is all going. Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
While Donald Trump and Elon Musk are currently feuding in a King Kong vs. Godzilla battle on social media, the devastating impact of their short-lived union continues to unfold. ICE is picking people off the street like a quasi American Gestapo, while the issue of foreign students is set to hamper US higher education for years - and not just in Ivy League schools, but on the global stage. Where has our fundamental decency gone? Norm Ornstein and David Rothkopf are back to address this chilling political combination of nihilism, sadism, and chaos. Tune in here. Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On the DSR Daily for Thursday, we discuss Trump's expansive new travel ban, the return of a wrongfully deported Guatemalan man, the administration's new investigation into Joe Biden, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
President Donald Trump appears to have finally turned on Elon Musk over his scalding criticism of the “big, beautiful bill.” At a presser, House Speaker Mike Johnson revealed that Trump told him he's displeased with Musk, which almost certainly wouldn't have happened unless Trump authorized it, confirming Trump's anger at Musk is serious. Meanwhile, the Congressional Budget Office just released brutal numbers showing that the House GOP bill will add even more to the deficit and kick many more people off health coverage than previously thought. We talked to Danielle Deiseroth, executive director of Data for Progress, which just released interesting new polling on the GOP bill. She explains why the bill could grow more toxic with the public, why the Trump-Musk rift and CBO score could help penetrate with voters, and why Democrats should act as if this is a debate they can win. Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
There can be no doubt that American power is on the decline. As our immigration enforcement militarizes to project strength at home, it's clear that America's international stranding is nearing an all time low. Retired Lieutenant General Mark Hertling joins Rosa Brooks, Ed Luce, and David Rothkopf to break down the missteps of this administration as well as the stunning success of Ukraine's Operation Spider's Web and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On the DSR Daily for Wednesday, we break down Musk's explosive break-up with the Trump administration, Trump looking for Congressional approval for DOGE cuts, Hegseth's war on DEI, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
President Trump has been tweeting wildly and angrily over the fate of his “big, beautiful bill.” He's been lashing out furiously at Democrats and at GOP Senators alike over their opposition, suggesting Senate passage may be in serious doubt. Then Elon Musk threw a grenade into the proceedings, unleashing a pair of tweets that ripped the bill as a “disgusting abomination” that will explode the deficit by trillions of dollars. Amusingly, Musk was being dishonest in his own way, but he still upended the scam that Trump and House Speaker Mike Johnson have concocted to sell this bill. We unraveled all this with New Republic senior editor Alex Shephard, author of a new piece arguing that Musk's damage is only beginning. He explains how all this fits into the 50-year story of Republicans gutting programs for the poor to make the rich richer. Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Member Air Date: May 27, 2025 We're now four months into our second term of Trumponomics, and the outlook isn't so good. Yet the issues go far beyond tariffs. Former economic adviser to President Obama Jason Furman joins David Rothkopf to explore problems with the Trump economic plan and why the consequences of failure could be disastrous. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On the DSR Daily for Tuesday, we cover another ruling blocking deportations, a liberal victory in South Korean elections, the fallout from a recent attack in Colorado, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
President Trump really wants the Senate to pass the “big beautiful bill” that has now gotten through the House. But a number of GOP Senators are, for now, speaking uncomfortable truths about that massive budget measure: It would balloon the deficit and slash spending on the poor and working class, largely to fund a massive tax cut for the wealthy. And right on cue, White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt just delivered two ugly rants on Fox News that expose how this ruse works. One of them threatens GOP senators who oppose the bill. The other monumentally misleads about its fiscal impact. We talked to Paul Waldman, co-author of White Rural Rage and a regular chronicler of how badly Trump-GOP policies harm Republican voters. He explains the real aims of the broader Trump project, how it victimizes MAGA country, and why Republicans might struggle to pull off their usual scam this time around. Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On the DSR Daily for Monday, we discuss Ukraine and Russia gathering for a second round of peace talks, a horrifying attack on protestors in Colorado, the election of a right-wing president in Poland, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Ming Lee Hui, who goes by the name of “Carol,” has lived for 20 years in the town of Kennett, Missouri after coming here from Hong Kong. She has been raising a family there and works as a waitress, and as The New York Times reports in a piece featuring quotes from Carol and many locals, she's well liked in the community. But Carol was recently arrested and now faces potential deportation. This has shocked and dismayed many of the town's residents, even though the area went overwhelmingly for Trump. Carol talked to us on the podcast straight from jail, where she is awaiting her fate. At times the conversation was difficult: She broke down in tears about her ordeal, was emotionally overwhelmed at the support she's received from the Trump-backing town, and offers wrenching thoughts about Trump's effort to deport countless others just like her. Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On the DSR Weekly Wrap-Up for Friday, we cover Israel's acceptance of a US ceasefire proposal, the madness of the One Big Beautiful Bill, the legal tug-of-war over tariffs, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Original Air Date for Members: May 22, 2025 Trump's grand tour of the Middle East is over. So how did it go? Trump seems to have a knack for diplomacy in the region, but there's more to the story. Steven Cook from the Council on Foreign Relations joins David Rothkopf to break down the President's trip and why the Trump brand of diplomacy is so unique in its successes and failures. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Generative AI has been hailed as a landmark technology that will revolutionize society. But how revolutionary is it really? Is there too much hype, not enough, or a combination of both? Founder and CEO of AutogenAI Sean Williams joins David Rothkopf to explore the impact of AI from proposal writing to the business world at large. This material is distributed by TRG Advisory Services, LLC on behalf of the Embassy of the United Arab Emirates in the U.S.. Additional information is available at the Department of Justice, Washington, DC. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
President Donald Trump's advisers are raging over a court ruling that temporarily blocked many of Trump's tariffs. Stephen Miller called it “judicial tyranny.” Another top adviser called the judges “globalist.” And press secretary Karoline Leavitt seethed that “unelected judges” have grown “dangerous.” While an appeals court did put a stay on the court ruling, letting the tariffs proceed for now, it's now overwhelmingly clear the tariffs are extremely vulnerable legally, and the whiplash in the courts only underscores what a fiasco of uncertainty Trump unleashed. Our trading partners now think their hand has been strengthened in trade talks, revealing more weakness. We talked to George Mason University's Ilya Somin, a lead lawyer for the challengers, about why the ruling is crushing for Trump's case, what it reveals about his broader abuses of power, and how he still can be stopped. Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
There are strange things afoot in DC this week. From flip-flopping tariffs to alleged illicit relations in Trump's inner circle, what the hell is going on in our nation's capital? The Daily Beast's David Gardner and Rosa Brooks join David Rothkopf to try and get to the bottom of all this and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On this week's episode of Words Matter, Leah Litman, legal expert and author of Lawless: How the Supreme Court Runs on Conservative Grievance, Fringe Theories, and Bad Vibes, joins David Rothkopf and Norm Ornstein to discuss the current realm of law and lawlessness. What messages are the courts sending by striking down Trump's tariff policies? How promising is it that these judges are standing up to Trump, and what major concerns still remain, even with these recent steps forward? Tune in as Leah, Norm and David discuss all this and more. Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On the DSR Daily for Thursday, we break down a panel of judges blocking Trump's tariffs, Elon Musk parting ways with the administration, a crackdown on Chinese student visas, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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