Deep State Radio

Originally Aired: August 14, 2018 Nothing is more core to the life of the Deep State than marking documents classified. After all, if just anyone could read them, who'd want to? On the other hand, if documents are classified, they can't be shared which is a bit of a problem in the cyber era when our most important defenses may be in the private sector. What's a secret-loving country to do? The NY Times' David Sanger, Georgetown University's Rosa Brooks and IISS' Kori Schake discuss. (And, yes, they also discuss Omarosa and Peter Strzok and all that other mishigas as well. So tune in for goodness sake!) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The United States and Germany are now both sending tanks to Ukraine. David sits down with General Mark Hertling, former Commanding General of United States Army Europe and the Seventh Army, and Michael Weiss of Yahoo News about where we are and how we got here. Will tanks have an immediate positive impact on the battlefield? Why have the Germans been so intransigent on these issues? Is the U.S. doing enough? Find out the answer to these and other pressing questions during this engaging and timely conversation. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

If you don't understand what is happening in Asia, you are missing some of the most impactful stories of the century. For this episode, David is joined by Anna Fifield of the Washington Post and Rosa Brooks of Georgetown University to talk about the major stories and trends going on in Asia. Why did Jacinda Ardern retire from her job as Prime Minister of New Zealand? How is China coping with the quick change from Zero-COVID to completely open? Why is it so hard to report on China and North Korea? Find out during this fascinating episode. Don't miss it! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

How close are we to fascism in America? David sits down to discuss with Ruth Ben-Ghiat, Professor of History and Italian Studies at New York University. What are the resonances between our current moment and the 1920s and 30s? How worried should we be about fascism bubbling up from the state and local levels? Is the global movement to protect democracy actually making some gains? Find out during this insightful conversation. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this week's episode, Norm and Kavita talk about the debt limit, what the U.S. can do at this point to pay its bills, and where we expect this to end. Members get a bonus conversation about the West Wing reboot and China. Read more about the debt limit here: https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/IN/IN12045 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Originally Aired: January 14, 2021 It has been two years since COVID-19 started hitting the headlines globally. As the new omicron variant is causing surging caseloads across America and around the world, it seems as though the end of this moment is very far away. What mistakes have we made? What should the Biden administration be doing next? How does the pandemic connect to the fight to protect democracy? What does the Supreme Court decision on the vaccine mandate mean for the fight against the virus? To answer these and other pressing questions, DSR Host David Rothkopf spoke with Kavita Patel of the Brookings Institution and Pulitzer Prize winning journalist Laurie Garrett. Don't miss this timely conversation. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The right's hate-filled, authoritarian media machine is loud. It's time for pro-democracy media tech to GET LOUDER! Watch this superstar panel of Joe Trippi, Tara McGowan, Ben Meiselas, and David Rothkopf, moderated by Simon Rosenberg, talk turning up the volume. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Davos may attract some of the world's wealthiest people but DSR continues to attract the best foreign policy and national security thinkers and analysis. David Rothkopf talks with David Sanger of the New York Times and Rosa Brooks of Georgetown University about Kissinger's remarks at Davos and other foreign policy issues cropping up around the world. Should Ukraine join NATO? Will Sweden and Finland actually join NATO? How should the U.S. handle the new (old) government in Israel? Find out in this wide-ranging conversation. Don't miss it. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The globalized world seems to be cracking up but what comes next? David sits down with Rana Foroohar to discuss how America can handle these turbulent times and her new book "Homecoming: The Path to Prosperity in a Post-Global World". Why did globalization turn out to not be as beneficial as we thought in the 90s? How should the U.S. respond? Is the Biden administration on the right track? Find out during this thoughtful conversation.     As an Amazon Affiliate, we earn from qualifying purchases. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this week's episode, Norm and Kavita talk about the start of a divided and performative Congress. Members of The DSR Network get a bonus conversation about Biden's classified documents and the Republicans investigations efforts across the government. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Originally Aired 8.16.22 Mar-a-Lago was searched for classified national security documents. David Rothkopf discusses the implications of this for our national security with Ed Luce of the Financial Times, Rosa Brooks of Georgetown University, and Joe Cirincione. Is this just another nothingburger? Will America come apart at the seams? How much of a threat is the GOP to America's national security? Find out in this thoughtful conversation. Don't miss it. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

With a new Speaker installed, Congress is back in full swing. David Rothkopf sits down with Annie Karni of the New York Times and Norm Ornstein of the Words Matter podcast to talk about what has happened so far. Can the new House majority govern? Will the press corps adapt to the new challenge of covering a performative Congress? Where will this all lead? Find out the answers to these and other pressing questions during this thoughtful conversation. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The county is becoming ever more polarized and it seems like there is no way to change it. In the face of this despair, writer Anand Giridharadas chronicles the way different people around the country have been persuading others and making a real difference in his new book "The Persuaders: The Persuaders: At the Front Lines of the Fight for Hearts, Minds, and Democracy". Do you have to water down to persuade? Who is doing a good job at this? What can activists do to take up these skills and make changes? Find out in this useful discussion. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

While there is chaos in the U.S. House of Representatives, there are real threats looming in the background. David Rothkopf talks about those threats with Max Boot of the Washington Post and Rosa Brooks of Georgetown University. How should the U.S. support Taiwan in the coming months? Is China likely to invade? What connects the riots in Brazil to January 6th? Find out during this enlightening conversation. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this week's episode, Norm and Kavita talk about Kevin McCarthy's quixotic quest to become speaker of the House and what it means for average Americans. What does this clown show mean for the most pressing issues facing the United States? Members of The DSR Network get a bonus conversation about the COVID crisis in China and how anti-vax terrorists are seizing on high profile deaths and injuries. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Originally Aired: January 6, 2022 With time comes perspective and it is clear now that January 6th was not an isolated event. In fact, there are real dangers in perceiving it as one, dangers that could play to the interests of the coup plotters and against the long-term interests of U.S. democracy. We seek to reframe the events of that day and where they fit in the bigger picture with Yale University historian and noted author Joanne Freeman and University of Michigan Law School professor and former U.S. attorney Barb McQuade. We promise, it's not like any discussion January 6th you've heard before...and it's one you need to hear. Join us. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Congress is in session but the new year hasn't begun until we get some politics, law, and policy predictions from DSR. David speaks with EJ Dionne of the Washington Post and Barb McQuade of the University of Michigan about what we can expect over the coming month. Will we get Speaker of the House in 2023? Will Trump get indicted? What hope can we have for Washington? Find out the answers to these questions and more during this thoughtful discussion. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

As China continues to gain economic and military power, how are they trying to build up their soft power? That is the core question at the heart of Josh Kurlantzick's new book "Beijing's Global Media Offensive: China's Uneven Campaign to Influence Asia and the World". David Rothkopf talks with Josh about this and how China is working to leverage that soft power. How is what China doing different than other countries? How has China utilized social media to advance their interests? Is China getting more sophisticated in its strategy around soft power?  Find out during this fascinating conversation. Join us! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

For the first episode of the new year, David Rothkopf sits down with Rosa Brooks of Georgetown University, David Sanger of the New York Times, and Kori Schake to discuss their foreign policy and national security predictions for 2023. Will Ukraine retake Crimea? What will President Biden spend his time on? Will anything good happen this year? Find out the answers to these questions and more during this timely discussion. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The World Cup may be over but the questions about the politics of FIFA and soccer remain. Zoe and Grant talk with Ben Valdez-Hempel of District Sports and Manchester City about the beautiful game and the people and policies that are making it so ugly. For our final segment Zoe talks about George Santos lying about his resume, Ben goes down the rabbit hole on Scientology, and Grant recommends Guillermo del Toro's Pinocchio. If you are under 40 and interested in being featured on the podcast, be sure to fill out this form. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Originally Aired: January 4, 2022 As we begin a new year, the threats around the globe remain the same. Russia may invade Ukraine, Iran's nuclear ambitions may come to fruition, and democratic backsliding continues apace around the globe. To forecast what might happen this year and offer some hope about some potential foreign policy bright spots, DSR host David Rothkopf talked with Ed Luce of the Financial Times, Kori Schake of the American Enterprise Institute, and David Sanger of the New York Times. Will Russia further invade Ukraine? Are we witnessing the rise of a Hungarian model for illiberal democracy? Can we avoid a cold war with China? Find out the answers to these and other questions as we look ahead to 2022. Don't wait to listen to this prescient conversation. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Originally Aired: November 9, 2022 The midterms turned out exceptionally well for Democrats and in the process David, Simon, and Tara's analysis from last week was vindicated! The team reconvenes with Tom Bonier of TargetSmart to talk about the races that have already been called and the vote that is still left outstanding. What are the key takeaways from last night? Is this a victory for Democrats or just better than expectations? Is GenZ the most important generation politically now? Find out in this thoughtful discussion. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Originally Aired: February 24, 2022 In the late hours of Wednesday, Vladimir Putin began a war of choice in Ukraine. On Thursday, President Biden detailed a variety of harsh sanctions that the United States, our allies, and partners will place upon Russia for his actions. To make sense of these developments, David Rothkopf spoke with David Sanger of the New York Times, Andrea Kendall-Taylor of the Center for a New American Security, and Joe Cirincione of the Quincy Institute. What comes next for Ukraine? Is Putin a rational actor? What more can the United States do to push back? All these questions and more answered on this episode. Don't miss it! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Originally Aired: March 17, 2022 As Putin's war of choice in Ukraine continues, Russia is seeing major impacts domestically. The value of the Ruble dropped significantly following the invasion, Putin has cracked down on independent journalism, and sanctions are crippling the economy. To talk about the view from Moscow and the impact the war has had on Russians, David Rothkopf talked with Michael Weiss of New Lines Magazine and Jill Dougherty of Georgetown University. How is the war viewed in Russia? What impact will Putin's recent speech have? Do the protests in Russia matter? Find out the answer to these and other questions during this thoughtful conversation. Join us. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Originally Aired: March 15, 2022 The war in Ukraine is moving into its third week and President Biden is headed to Europe for a meeting with NATO next week. David Rothkopf talks with David Sanger of the New York Times and Dmitri Alperovitch of the Silverado Policy Accelerator about the current state of the conflict and the potential path forward. Is China going to get involved? Why has Putin not used cyber against the West yet? What will come of Biden's meeting with other NATO heads of state? Find out the answer to these and other pressing questions on this insightful episode. Join us! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Originally Aired: August 11, 2022 A search was carried out of Mar-a-Lago this week and it has upended the usually sleepy August in Washington. To talk about the search, Trump's pleading the fifth, and a variety of other developments David and Kavita are joined by EJ Dionne and Max Boot both of the Washington Post. Is the GOP now fully Trumpified? How much legal jeopardy is Trump in at this point? Are Biden's recent legislative wins going to have any impact on the country's perception of him? Find out in this wide-ranging episode. Don't miss it. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Originally Aired: December 23, 2022 As the year comes to a close, Grant and Chris take a step back from the daily news cycle to talk about what surprised them this year. The Zero-COVID policy in China, the rotating door at 10 Downing Street, and much more as well as a peak behind the curtain about the media industry. Thank you for listening to us through this year and we always look forward to your feedback so please email us at podcasts@thedsrnetwork.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Originally Aired: December 22, 2022 From a year that began with January 6th to the American Rescue Plan, Build Back Better, and Beyond, 2021 has been an especially vital year for American democracy, health, and economic renewal. The review the year in politics and advise the Biden administration as to what should come next, DSR Host David Rothkopf spoke with Jennifer Rubin and E.J. Dionne of the Washington Post. Is there any hope that voting rights and vote counting will be secured in the coming year? What can Democrats do to hold onto their majorities in Congress? How should the Biden administration adjust moving forward? Find out the answers to these and other questions as we look back on politics in 2021. Don't miss this vital conversation. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The end of the year offers a variety of special treats. For DSR listeners it means looking back on the politics of 2022 with David Rothkopf, Norm Ornstein, and David Corn. They discuss the work of the January 6th committee, the successes of a Democratic Congress, and much more. Members of the DSR Network get access to a bonus conversation with David, Simon Rosenberg, and Rep. Adam Smith (WA-09) about the war in Ukraine and the coming battles with a Republican-controlled House of Representatives. Join us for the informative conversation! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

President Biden is halfway through his Presidency and to look back on the good and bad of the last two years, David Rothkopf talks with Kori Schake of the American Enterprise Institute, David Sanger of the New York Times, and Stephen Walt from the Harvard Kennedy School. What were the President's missteps and successes? What issues are mostly missed by the media? What are we hoping for in 2023 and beyond? Find out during this thought-provoking episode. Join us! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Protests following the death of Masha Amini continue to put pressure on Iran. Grant and Zoe talk with Sara Haghdoosti of Win Without War about the protests, what America can do to help, and how literature can cross boundaries. For our final segment Zoe talks about Topdog/Underdog, Sara gives a shout out to Bluey, and Grant talks about border clashes between China and India.   If you are under 40 and interested in being featured on the podcast, be sure to fill out this form. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Originally Aired: December 20, 2021 From January 6th to the Democracy Summit, 2021 has been an eventful year fore foreign policy and national security. To throughly review the year, adjudicate President Biden's performance, and discuss what you might have missed, DSR host David Rothkopf talked with Rosa Brooks of Georgetown University, Ed Luce of the Financial Times, Kori Schake of the American Enterprise Institute, and David Sanger of the New York Times. What will historians write about 2021 in 2201? How did Biden's first year in office impact the great foreign policy issues of our moment? What did we not focus on enough this year? Find out the answers to these and other questions as we look back on 2021. Don't miss this thoughtful conversation. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Elon Musk's takeover of Twitter has made many re-evaluate the role of social media and new media. As people who work primarily in and around social and new media, David, Tara, and Simon talk about how Democrats need to step up and take on these challenges. How should we engage on social media? Do Progressives need to build their own media ecosystem? What can we learn from Republicans? Find out on this thought provoking conversation. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The U.S.-Africa Leaders Summit is underway and it poses a series of questions about Africa itself and great power competition with China. David works through those questions with Rosa Brooks of Georgetown University, Ed Luce of the Financial Times, and David Sanger of the New York Times. Is the time to invest in Africa now? How has America's military-industrial complex warped our foreign policy? Are we being too hawkish on China? Our regulars discuss these and other issues during this striking conversation. Don't miss it! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

DSR Network Podcast: The Secret Life of Cookies Subscribe now on your podcast player of choice so that you never miss another episode! Marissa's guest is the brilliant and marvelous Dahlia Lithwick, senior legal correspondent for Slate, host of the Amicus podcast and author of the must-read Lady Justice: Women, the Law, and the Battle to Save America. While making the famous Persian rice dish tahdig, the two discuss the most recent threats to democracy and yet still remain full of hope. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Originally Aired: October 1, 2018 The political furor around the nomination of Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court may seem like pure domestic US politics, but the implications for America's role in the world are serious. Not only does the chaos in the US symptom send a disconcerting message to those who once emulated us and an inviting one to our enemies, but the politics behind the nomination hint at bigger issues to come. America is growing more divided between less populated, less diverse “red” states that are disproportionately empowered by the US Constitution and the more diverse, less xenophobic, more urban “blue” states. According to Rosa Brooks of our panel, the last time our structural imbalances were this great we had a civil war. Are we on the precipice of greater unrest? Rosa is joined by Kori Schake of IISS and Evelyn Farkas of the Atlantic Council for a discussion on this, America's soft power of attraction…and the sweet and surprising attraction between Donald Trump and, his new love, Kim Jong-Un. Tune in! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Supreme Court is back in session and taking on a number of hot button issues this session. To break down the latest episode, David sits down with Dahlia Lithwick of Slate. How likely is the Supreme Court to side with those pushing the Independent State Legislature doctrine? How much do our hopes hinge on Amy Coney Barrett and Brett Kavanaugh? Is masterpiece cakeshop coming back from the dead? Find out during this timely discussion. Don't miss it. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

As we march towards the end of the year, David talks with Rosa Brooks of Georgetown University and Ed Luce of the Financial Times talks about what to expect over the next two years. Will Trump get indicted? Will Biden run again? How bad will a Republican-led House of Representatives be? Find out the answer to these and other pressing questions during this thoughtful conversation. Join us! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this week's episode, Norm and Kavita discuss what remains on the agenda for the lame duck Congress including issues like the debt limit and the looming threat of a railroad strike. Members of the DSR Network get access to a bonus conversation about the respect for marriage act and World AIDS day. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Originally Aired: March 3, 2022 Senator Chris Murphy is an outspoken progressive leader on foreign policy and has been a passionate supporter of Ukraine. Dr. Kavita Patel sat down with Senator Murphy to discuss the ongoing war in Ukraine and how America's adversaries and allies are viewing the conflict around the world. They also discuss the fight against COVID-19 and the fight for gun control. How should the U.S. approach a hesitant India on Russia sanctions? What is the next step for American policy towards COVID-19? Will anything ever get down to end the epidemic of gun violence in our country? Find out on this wide-ranging episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

With the midterms results in the rearview mirror (at least in the house), Simon sits down with Representative Eric Swalwell (CA-15) to talk about what they mean for Congress moving forward. How will a GOP-led house change things? Will a Speaker McCarthy push through support for Ukraine? How important is a unified Democratic party in the minority? Find out the answers to these and other questions during this thoughtful conversation. Members get a brief conversation between Simon, Tara, and producer Grant Haver about what Democrats can do while in the minority. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Coming out of Thanksgiving and the midterms, David talks with Rosa Brooks of Georgetown University, Kori Schake of the American Enterprise Institute, and Mara Rudman of the Center for American Progress about what the next two years of America's foreign policy will look like. How should America approach a new Bibi government in Israel and the broader Middle East? Is Biden's China policy on the right track? What should we expect to come of the war in Ukraine? Find out the answer to these and other core question during this insightful conversation. Join us! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The one hundred and eighty-fifth episode of the DSR Daily Brief.   Stories Cited in the Episode Malaysia's election uncertainty drags out as party dithers Turkey strikes Kurdish militants a week after Istanbul blast Argentina: 'Mothers of the Plaza de Mayo' co-founder dies Deadly earthquake rocks Indonesia World Cup 2022: Iran's Ehsan Hajsafi speaks out over conditions in his home country Two prominent Iranian actresses arrested - state media Iran: Rights groups warn of crackdown in Kurdish Mahabad Iran protests continue to rage on streets as officials renew threats Iran issues first death sentence linked to recent protests Are 15,000 Iranian Protesters Going To Be 'Mass Executed'? US imposes new sanctions on Iranian officials over crackdown on protests Texas woman pleads guilty to smuggling spider monkey in 'beer' box Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Originally Aired: November 22, 2017 What are Deep State Radio nerds thankful for this Thanksgiving? We poll our experts and we get just the responses you would expect. One said he is thankful we have not had a nuclear war with North Korea...yet. Of course, many said they were grateful for Robert Mueller. And while others mentioned being grateful for all the faceless bureaucrats of the Deep State themselves...almost all of our experts showed a lot of love all our Deep State Radio nerds. Break out the box wine, pop a ear bud into your ear, and covertly listen along instead of having to endure your crackpot relatives around the Thanksgiving table. Happy Thanksgiving from all of us down here in the third sub-basement of the Ministry of Snark to all of you out there living the Twilight Zone reality that has become our daily lives. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Michigan proved to be not only a blue wall during the midterms but an example for others to follow. David talks with Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson about her work protecting and expanding the franchise as well as the bell weather nature of Michigan. Members of The DSR Network get to go deeper on these issues as Tara McGowan has a conversation with Representative Debbie Dingell (MI-06). Join us! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

As America begins to settle in for Thanksgiving, the original crew of DSR talks about what world leaders should be thankful for. Rosa Brooks of Georgetown moderates as David Rothkopf is stuck on the New Jersey Turnpike and it joined by Kori Schake of the American Enterprise Institute, Ed Luce of the Financial Times, and David Sanger of the New York Times. Hear their takes on Presidents Xi, Putin, Biden, and Zelensky. Don't miss it! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This is the final episode of a six part mini-series on the people and issues featured in David Rothkopf's new book American Resistance: The Inside Story of How the Deep State Saved the Nation. This episode features Ed Luce in conversation with David Rothkopf at Politics and Prose. They talked about how the book came together, the themes within the book, and what surprised David while he was writing it. Don't miss it. As an Amazon Affiliate, we earn from qualifying purchases.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A core challenge facing the American defense enterprise is the pace of technology innovation. Grant and Zoe sat down with Cameron McCord to talk about how his experience in the military and on the Hill make him think differently about the issue of tech innovation within government. In our final segment, Zoe talks about the collapse of FTX, Cameron discusses this article in Breaking Defense, and Grant slams FIFA. If you are under 40 and interested in being featured on the podcast, be sure to fill out this form. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Originally Aired: July 17, 2018 Is Trumpism a philosophy? Does it have any hint of a philosophy within it? Is there any philosopher that ever existed that would embrace Trump? Does David Sanger remember any of his college philosophy courses? On this episode, Stanford's Kori Schake, Ed Luce of the Financial Times, David Sanger of the New York Times, and David Rothkopf, who grew up in New Jersey, walk us through how Trump may have developed what pass for his philosophies and consider the nature and origins of the ideas that drive his world view. Kori Schake also brings up Thucydides again and Ed uses the term "obscurantism." Don't miss it. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Anti-semitism continues to rear its head in the cultural and political context. David Rothkopf digs into this issue and the Jewish-American identity with Emily Tamkin, author of the new book "Bad Jews: A History of American Jewish Politics and Identities". How have American Jews balanced assimilation and distinctiveness overtime? How has the creation of the modern nation-state of Israel impacted American Jews? How has Jewishness been thrust into modern political debates? Find out during this fascinating conversation. Join us! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Gen Z had a massive impact on the midterms. To talk about that impact and what may come from it moving forward, David Rothkopf and Simon Rosenberg sit down John Della Volpe, the director of polling at the Harvard Kennedy School Institute of Politics, and the author of Fight: How Gen Z is Channeling Their Fear and Passion to Save America.  Why does Gen Z vote so heavily for Democrats? What can get them to turn out? Is the Democratic party set up to accept them? Find out during this thought provoking conversation. Don't miss it. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices