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Is Kerby Joseph done? Are the new Lions jerseys as hideous as people are making them out to be?
The guys aren't buying what Dan Campbell is saying about Kerby Joseph and the people agree.
Mike and Rico seek the opinions of the listeners on this hour's Lions topics.
Mike and Rico asked 2 Lions-related questions in the second hour.
Valenti and Rico began today's show by ripping Scott Harris, asking whether we need to consider his seat as Tigers GM hotter than it is. Then, they asked 2 specific Lions questions about Kerby Joseph and their new rivalry jerseys, respectively, before discussing ESPN's lack of objectivity in their "reporting" of the Jed York arrest. The guys rounded things out with the topic they opened the show with.
The guys try to decipher Dan Campbell's comments about Sam LaPorta's injury and tie them into the latest with Brian Branch, Kerby Joseph, and the secondary as a whole.
Stoney has a list from CBS Sports of the most overpaid players at each position in the NFL, which Valenti reacts to.
The Saints have released their first depth chart of training camp, giving us plenty to discuss. Mario Jerez and Erin Summers break down the biggest takeaways, including Alvin Kamara and Travis Etienne being listed as “OR” at running back, Chase Young appearing with an “OR,” Vernon Broughton listed as a starter, and why you probably shouldn't put too much stock into the wide receiver order just yet. While the depth chart is out, the biggest story at camp continues to be the disparity between the Saints' offense and defense. The defense has consistently made plays while the offense has struggled to find its rhythm, particularly when it comes to the timing between Tyler Shough and his receivers. Mario and Erin discuss whether that should be a concern heading into the preseason opener, while also highlighting some of the offensive players who have stood out. On the defensive side, Martin Emerson Jr. continues to make an impression. Emerson had a huge day in padded practice Tuesday, recording two pass breakups and an interception to end a two-minute drill. Mario takes a closer look at Emerson's track record with the Cleveland Browns, where he started 33 games from 2022–2024 and became a key part of one of the NFL's best defenses. Then it's time to look ahead to Week 1. The Saints are currently +6.5 underdogs against the Detroit Lions, with a +265 moneyline, and Mario and Erin discuss whether that line is giving Detroit too much respect — especially with the Lions dealing with several significant injuries. Cade Mays is expected to miss 8–10 weeks, while backup center Juice Scruggs is also dealing with an injury. The guys discuss how important Mays' absence could be for Detroit, along with the status of Kerby Joseph and Brian Branch. Plus, quick injury updates around the Saints, including Cam Jordan's hamstring, Demario Davis and Jeremiah Wright returning to practice, and other players dealing with injuries. Finally, Mario and Erin look ahead to Thursday's joint practice with the Jacksonville Jaguars and Saturday's first preseason game. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Mike and Rico dove into some Lions talk to begin the final hour, discussing which of Kerby Joseph or Brian Branch they're more confident in returning from injury. They heard from a few of the people before feeling compelled to address Rich Eisen's emotional comments about fellow Michigander J.J. McCarthy's benching.
Rico made his return, and he & Valenti immediately tackled the ongoing, worsening issue of NIL in college football. They took this topic up to the second hour, where they touched on the lack of resolution between Duren and the Pistons before spending some time discussing with themselves and the people whether they're re-engaged with the Tigers. The guys wrapped up the show in the final hour with their thoughts on Kerby Joseph and Brian Branch and which is closer to returning from injury.
Is Branch or Joseph closer to returning to the field?
Texters and callers get in on the conversation about which of Kerby Joseph and Brian Branch they're feeling better about injury-wise right now.
Following the big new contract extension for star RB Jahmyr Gibbs, the Detroit Lions have now committed over $1 billion dollars to re-signing their own talent. Other than Jared Goff, it's all players drafted into Detroit since the Brad Holmes/Dan Campbell regime took over in 2021. With that plethora of high-end talent, it's clear the Lions have a strong chance of making the first Super Bowl in franchise history. It won't be easy and will require significantly better luck on the injury front than the team has suffered through lately. That includes better fortune with a couple of the players the Lions have locked down with big deals, namely safety Kerby Joseph and DT Alim McNeill. Having so many highly compensated players does create some roster-building issues. Keeping a middle class on the roster is increasingly difficult with every new lucrative payout. That places more pressure on the middle-round draft picks to develop into useful, inexpensive depth. In other Lions news, Detroit added veteran journeyman defensive tackle, Ben Stille. What does he offer for Detroit, and why is the team still eschewing a true nose tackle? The daily DLP tackles all that and more. #detroitlions #lions #detroitlionspodcast #jahmyrgibbs #lionscontractextension #trainingcamp #benstille #jaredgoff #amon-rast.brown Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
A week behind again but the flutes kick off another jam packed episode! A SummerSlam preview along with the C and D side of The Who's rock opera "Tommy." Lions drama with Ja Gibbs and Twins reviews also take up some space. Don't forget to tell a friend about this one. 01:04 Cabin trip and the movie Princess Bride 09:57 Show Intro "Hold In" (Jahmyr Gibbs drama) 12:57 Kerby Joseph and other Lions training camp drama 18:36 Cardinals, Ravens and Falcons breakdowns 25:10 NFL Headlines (Netflix NFL Quarterbacks) 33:34 Twins games breakdowns 56:07 Twins are buying!? (Twins IL) 58:43 Bieber or Lebron 59:40 "I Believe That You Are Cursed" (Raw review) 1:02:45 SummerSlam predictions 1:18:24 Review continued of The Who's 4th studio Album of "Tommy" 1:27:18 Pinball machines 1:29:22 "Tommy" tracks 13-18 1:42:43 "Tommy" tracks 19-24 1:59:25 Reactions and picks for "Tommy" 2:00:22 Outro "OTC1" Want to get your thoughts involved with the podcast?Check us out on Twitter/X @BumNZillyshowEmail at bumandzillyshow@gmail.com
Gov asks a few questions to Costa & Jansen to get this week's Best Of Lions started. Then, Karsch wonders about the likelihood that Brad Holmes trades for Bucs DT Vita Vea, Valenti & Rico react to Kerby Joseph's recent social media posts, and much more!
Gov asks a few questions to Costa & Jansen to get this week's Best Of Lions started. Then, Karsch wonders about the likelihood that Brad Holmes trades for Bucs DT Vita Vea, Valenti & Rico react to Kerby Joseph's recent social media posts, and much more!
Gov asks a few questions to Costa & Jansen to get this week's Best Of Lions started. Then, Karsch wonders about the likelihood that Brad Holmes trades for Bucs DT Vita Vea, Valenti & Rico react to Kerby Joseph's recent social media posts, and much more!
Rico and David participated in a game put together by Paul Serra to begin the third hour. Then, they talked some Lions, beginning with Kerby Joseph's positive updates regarding his suspicious injury last season and then transitioning into some general takeaways from training camp.
The guys offer some thoughts on what Kerby Joseph had to say about his potential availability early in the regular season.
What do you make of Joseph's comments?
Detroit Lions training camp is underway at the Meijer Performance Center in Allen Park. The Daily DLP explores some of the primary statements and themes from head coach Dan Campbell's press conference to open training camp. Injury updates Campbell led off with some mixed news on the starting safeties, Brian Branch and Kerby Joseph. Bad news first. Joseph will remain on the PUP for at least a couple of weeks, and Campbell offered that having the All-Pro available for Week 1 would be “a bonus” and looks unlikely at this point. Campbell had better news on Branch, who is recovering from a December Achilles injury. Branch could be cleared to practice by the end of training camp. That would accelerate his timeline for playing up from the current expectation of around Halloween. There was also good news on guard Christian Mahogany. Campbell indicated Mahogany will be back shortly, as early as Friday's practice. Defensive back Christian Izien is down with a minor illness and will also be back very soon. On TE Tyler Conklin, he's dealing with a calf injury that will sideline the free agent acquisition for at least two more weeks. Jahmyr Gibbs There was no word on Jahmyr Gibbs being injured, and the Daily DLP ended with the news that Gibbs was not participating in today's opening practice session. He's looking for a contract extension and his absence should be viewed as a holdout until otherwise directed. It's not an unexpected development with Gibbs, and Campbell praised the star RB in his remarks. Both sides are working to get a deal done, Campbell noted. #detroitlions #lions #detroitlionspodcast #kerbyjoseph #brianbranch #jahmyrgibbs #dancampbell #chuckclark #christianizien #christianmahogany #tylerconklin #brockwright #jacksonmeeks #aidanhutchinson #aleemmcneill #levionwuzurike #djwonnum #j.t.tufele Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
8:00 HOUR: Is Costa being a bad fan? A Kerby Joseph update from Dan Campbell
Kerby Joesph is on the PUP list.
Detroit Lions All-Pro S Kerby Joseph's career is at risk following a serious knee injury. Yet he's joking about it. Are Detroit Lions fans overeacting? Plus Steve Smith has some choice words for Detroit Lions WR Jameson Williams.
Today the show is being hosted by our good friend Jeff Risdon from the Detroit Lions Podcast. Throughout the show, Jeff was joined by some of our great guests so they could talk all about the Detroit Lions as training camp gets started this week. In our first hour, we were joined by Mike Kimber from Chat Sports. He and Jeff talked about Kerby Joseph being placed on the PUP list, talked about the impact Kerby makes when he's healthy, talked about the leadership and Coaching on the Lions staff, talked about their biggest concerns heading into the season, and more. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
We were joined by Mike Kimber from Chat Sports. He and Jeff talked about Kerby Joseph being placed on the PUP list, talked about the impact Kerby makes when he's healthy, talked about the leadership and Coaching on the Lions staff, talked about their biggest concerns heading into the season, and more. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Today the show is being hosted by our good friend Jeff Risdon from the Detroit Lions Podcast. Throughout the show, Jeff was joined by some of our great guests so they could talk all about the Detroit Lions as training camp gets started this week. In our first hour, we were joined by Mike Kimber from Chat Sports. He and Jeff talked about Kerby Joseph being placed on the PUP list, talked about the impact Kerby makes when he's healthy, talked about the leadership and Coaching on the Lions staff, talked about their biggest concerns heading into the season, and more. In our second hour, we were joined by Jeremy Reisman from Pride of Detroit. He and Jeff previewed training camp for the Lions and what they'll be keeping an eye on, talked about how the offensive and defensive lines look right now, talked about some of the players they see making a big step this season, and much more. In our final hour, we were joined by Scott Bischoff from the Detroit Lions Podcast. He and Jeff talked all about the Lions in the off-season, talked about storylines and players they'll be paying attention, talked about the offense and defense, gave us their expectations for the season, and so much more. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Hosts Jason Harwood and Jacob Litton discuss the Kerby Joseph situation. The Lions placed him on PUP, is that a cause for concern or just procedural? Watch us on YouTube: www.youtube.com/@TalkingGrit Join the discussion on Reddit: r/Talkinggritpodcast Follow us on X: @talkinggritpod | Jason | Jacob Find us on Facebook: Talking Grit Page Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
The guys carried their first hour Tigers discussion into the second. They analyzed the potential outcomes of this upcoming trade deadline until they took a quick break to react to Kerby Joseph's social media comments about his injury and the Lions putting him on the PUP list.
Mike and Rico address the injury news surrounding Kerby Joseph and his comments on social media about his recovery.
Valenti and Rico began the first show of the week following an abysmal weekend for the Tigers, asking whether enough is enough regarding any hope they'd have of making enough headway before the deadline to not sell. They stuck with this topic for the majority of the show but were sure to briefly mix in their reactions to Kerby Joseph's social media comments and talk about the latest on Jalen Duren's (lack of) discussion with the Pistons on a contract extension.
The Lions safety will begin Training Camp on the PUP list
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Detroit placed safety Brian Branch, safety Kerby Joseph and tight end Tyler Conklin on the physically unable to perform list, and it does not necessarily signal long-term loss. PUP only restricts on-field work at the start of camp, not meetings or rehab, and players can be activated at any time, even after a single day. Who went on the PUP list and what does it actually mean? Detroit Lions safeties Brian Branch and Kerby Joseph, plus tight end Tyler Conklin, will begin camp on PUP, which means they will not be in the first practice but can do meetings, conditioning and treatment. The PUP list is not injured reserve and activation can happen quickly. The move aligns with standard camp housekeeping. It keeps roster flexibility while athletic training staff finishes return-to-play ramps. It does not forecast a season timeline by itself, and there are examples of players coming off PUP after one day. PUP vs. NFI: what changes? On PUP, players are paid and have full access to coaches, meetings and trainers but cannot practice. The Non-Football Injury list functions similarly in practice limits, but pay is not guaranteed on NFI. When can Brian Branch return from his Achilles tear? Branch is not expected for the start of training camp. Host Jeff Risdon noted Branch tore his Achilles in December and cited the common 8 to 10 month window for a return-to-play ramp. He framed Halloween or the Germany trip timeframe as reasonable targets, with the goal of regaining his pre-injury form rather than rushing early-camp reps. The Lions have reinforced safety depth to absorb early-camp absences. Detroit Lions safety Chuck Clark, Detroit Lions defensive back Christian Izien and Detroit Lions defensive back Thomas Harper are in place to handle practice work until Branch is cleared. What is going on with Kirby Joseph after his tweet? Joseph is on PUP for knee management despite publicly betting he would avoid it, then following with a playful "y'all should have bet me" post after the designation. The team is managing his workload, and he can be activated at any time. Jefferson referenced an alleged degenerative knee condition and advocated for at least some preseason field testing so coaches know where he stands. Dan Campbell previously said the staff does not yet have a definitive answer and wants to find out during camp. The upside case remains obvious; Joseph led the NFL in interceptions in 2024, a version of Joseph that raises Detroit's defensive ceiling. How does Tyler Conklin's status impact tight end depth? Conklin missed mandatory minicamp with an undisclosed issue and starts on PUP, which stresses the depth more than safety does. Good Tyler Conklin is an upgrade over Detroit Lions tight end Brock Wright at TE2, and Jefferson made clear there is room to improve that spot. The Lions have enough safety depth to function early in camp, but they do not currently have three NFL tight ends available for any three-tight end looks. Conklin's prior productive stretch with the New York Jets underscores why Detroit signed him. Getting him cleared stabilizes the rotation and keeps the TE2 plan on track, even if three-tight end sets are not the base offense. #detroitlions #lions #detroitlionspodcast #puplist #lionstrainingcamp #brianbranch #kerbyjoseph #tylerconklin #brockwright #chuckclark #christianizien #thomasharper #dancampbell #detroitlionstrainingcamp #physicallyunabletoperformlist #safetyposition #tightenddepth #newyorkjets #drewpetzing #nflpreseason Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Dan Campbell must nail the Drew Petzing offensive coordinator hire so the offense carries the Detroit Lions in 2026. As Michael Grey said on the latest edition of The Grey Area, the offense has the toys and the quarterback to be elite, so execution, cohesion, and health have to match the talent. Can the Lions avoid another position group wipeout? Yes, spreading the inevitable injuries across the roster is essential to prevent a fatal hole. As Michael Grey emphasized, the secondary is already unsettled with cornerback Terrion Arnold, Detroit Lions, no longer with the team and safety Kerby Joseph, Detroit Lions, an ongoing question. Grey added a long-view bonus: stop the offseason attrition surprises. He cited the unexpected center Frank Ragnow, Detroit Lions, retirement two years ago and the Arnold saga this year as examples of presumed starters vanishing late in the calendar. The 2027 wish is simple, keep the assumed starting 22 intact through to camp. Will Hank Fraley get the offensive line ready to lead? He has to, because the offense must lead this team. Offensive line coach Hank Fraley inherits premium pieces, including Penei Sewell but he also has to develop newer linemen and get them game-ready. Grey backed the plan with clarity, the right guard stabilized late last year and Sewell moving to left tackle presents challenges he is comfortable with. None of it means anything until pads go on, but the standard is clear, Fraley needs to be that dude and keep the front five tight and right so everything else in the offense functions. How should the defense change its usage and packages? Shift out of heavy three-linebacker looks and lean into nickel and other sub packages. Grey said the Lions ran more base three-linebacker than anyone and that cannot continue given the secondary churn and lack of a do-everything hybrid, there is no Nick Emmanwori type on this roster. Defensive coordinator Sheppard must solve the edge spot opposite edge rusher Aidan Hutchinson, Detroit Lions, and use personnel-driven answers to disguise coverages. Grey expects a year-two jump for Sheppard too, growth is not just for players. How often Detroit lives in nickel and dime, and how those subs hold up, will define defensive viability. Did Dan Campbell get it right with Drew Petzing and the offensive core? It needs to be right. Grey was blunt, he did not like the hire at first but wants to be wrong, and the bond between quarterback Jared Goff, Detroit Lions, and offensive coordinator Drew Petzing must be real and collaborative. The arsenal is loaded, tight end Sam LaPorta, Detroit Lions, was declared fully available for camp this week, wide receiver Amon-Ra St. Brown, Detroit Lions, remains the engine, and running back Jameer Gibbs, Detroit Lions, is the focal point. Running back Isaiah Pacheco, Detroit Lions, on a one-year deal after two injury-plagued seasons, must stay healthy as the reliable backup and enable two-back looks. Beyond him, running back Sione Vaki, Detroit Lions, is uncertain depth. As Michael Grey said, keep Gibbs fresh, add multiplicity with Pacheco, and let Petzing's structure unlock MVP-type production from Goff. #detroitlions #lions #detroitlionspodcast #jaredgoff #jahmyrgibbs #amon-rast.brown #samlaporta #isaiahpacheco #frankragnow #panaysewell #taylordecker #aidanhutchinson #kirbyjoseph #terrionarnold #hankfraley #drewpetzing #jeffrisdon Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
The Detroit Lions have a deep, flexible safety room that still needs defined roles. Injury concerns to both regular starters complicate the safety spot, and that will make for a very intriguing training camp in Allen Park. Is Kerby Joseph the turnover engine this defense needs? Yes, when Detroit Lions safety Kerby Joseph is on the field, the defense gains its best ballhawk. As Jeff Risdon noted, Joseph is "exceptionally good at creating opportunities for the defense to turn defense into offense." Risdon explicitly wants him healthy for 17 games because nobody else has provided that level of takeaways. Joseph had ups and downs last season, but his ability to flip possessions remains the singular swing factor in the secondary's ceiling and the overall NFL playoff push. Is Chuck Clark the answer while roles settle? Detroit Lions safety Chuck Clark looked like a starter and a tone-setter in minicamp. He played primarily in Joseph's role, handled every assignment, and, as Jeff Risdon put it, "impressed the hell out of me" as a leader and communicator. Clark can play over the top or in the box, and at 32 years old he still moved and directed traffic like an alpha. The only open question, per Risdon, is whether his best days are behind him, but his spring performance says he can anchor the room as jobs crystallize in camp. Where do Thomas Harper, Christian Izien, Avante Maddox and Dan Jackson fit? They are the versatile chess pieces who fill the gaps while starters settle. Detroit Lions defensive back Thomas Harper plays everywhere, with prior work in the slot, at free safety and at strong safety, and he aligned closer to the line of scrimmage in camp. Detroit Lions defensive back Christian Izien, an undrafted Rutgers product who became Tampa Bay's "positionless wonder," has started in the slot, over the top, in the box and even outside, and he profiles more as a slot safety. He missed the early part of last season, then resumed his value as a super sub. Detroit Lions defensive back Avonte Maddox is a veteran presence who can contribute in a sub role. Detroit Lions safety Dan Jackson, a Georgia draft pick who missed his entire rookie year, is a strong safety and core special teams type, but he remains an unknown until he stacks camp reps. How will the scheme changes unlock this group? Detroit Lions defensive coordinator Jim O'Neil and the staff want to be less predictable on the back end, and the room's versatility enables that. Chuck Clark can blitz, and Dan Jackson showed last summer he can blitz from the slot and from depth. This camp is about someone, whether it be Clark, Izien or Harper, seizing a defined role so the coaches, including Kelvin Sheppard, can deploy fewer moving parts and more consistent combinations. If health cooperates and one or two players lock down jobs, the Lions field a very good safety unit, with depth that is far better than a year ago. #detroitlions #lions #detroitlionspodcast #kerbyjoseph #chuckclark #thomasharper #christianizien #avontemaddox #danjackson #detroitlionssafeties #jimo'neil #kelvinsheppard #nfltrainingcamp #slotsafety #boxsafety #nfldefense #takeaways Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Detroit Lions Prepping For Camp The quietest part of the NFL calendar rarely stays quiet for long. With training camp roughly 10 days away, the Detroit Lions have entered the final stretch before the real evaluations begin. The roster is largely set, the offseason program is complete, and every conversation now shifts toward one question: what are we about to learn once the pads come on? On this week's Detroit Lions Podcast, Chris and Jeff Risdon look ahead to one of the most important training camps of the Dan Campbell era. From position battles to injury updates, from replacing Terrion Arnold to evaluating the running back room, there is no shortage of storylines despite the lack of football on the field. The Camp Battles That Will Shape the 2026 Season Training camp is where optimism meets reality, and the Lions have several competitions that will define the opening 53-man roster. The first battle begins at right tackle. Rookie first-round pick Blake Miller and veteran Larry Borom split first-team reps throughout OTAs and minicamp, making this one of the premier competitions to watch when camp opens. The secondary remains another major storyline following the departure of Terrion Arnold. Detroit must identify who will emerge opposite D.J. Reed, with Rock Ya-Sin and Ennis Rakestraw Jr. expected to receive every opportunity to claim the job. Replacing Arnold is not simply about finding another starter. It is about rebuilding depth in a room that suddenly looks much different than it did just a few months ago. Running back is another fascinating discussion. Jahmyr Gibbs is unquestionably the featured back, but is Isiah Pacheco enough as RB2? His experience, physical running style, and pass protection bring value, but Sione Vaki continues to develop, making this a storyline worth following throughout camp. Is Kerby Joseph Ready and How Confident Should We Be? Perhaps no player carries more intrigue entering camp than Kerby Joseph. The All-Pro safety remains one of Detroit's most important defensive players, but his recovery from a knee injury leaves legitimate questions. Training camp should finally provide answers about both his availability and effectiveness. His availability could shape the entire defense. Fortunately, Brad Holmes added veteran depth at safety, giving Detroit more flexibility than it had a year ago, but everyone understands this defense is better when Joseph is healthy. That naturally leads to the biggest discussion of the episode. How confident should Lions fans be? The roster still has one of the NFL's strongest offensive cores. Jared Goff is surrounded by elite skill talent, the offensive line remains among the league's best, and the coaching staff has built a culture capable of competing with anyone. The questions largely reside on defense, where health, youth, and replacing Terrion Arnold all become part of the equation. Training camp is where those answers begin to emerge. Join Chris and Jeff Risdon on the Detroit Lions Podcast as they prepare you for everything to watch over the coming weeks. From the biggest roster battles to Kerby Joseph's health, from replacing Terrion Arnold to evaluating Isiah Pacheco's role, this is your complete guide to the storylines that will define Detroit's 2026 training camp. #DetroitLions, #Lions, #DetroitLionsPodcast, #OnePride, #TrainingCamp, #KerbyJoseph, #TerrionArnold, #BradHolmes, #DanCampbell, #JaredGoff, #NFLTrainingCamp, #LionsRoster, #DetroitVsEverybody, #IsiahPacheco, #NFLNews #detroitlions #lions #detroitlionspodcast #detroitlionstrainingcamp #detroitlionsnews #bradholmes #dancampbell #jaredgoff #kerbyjoseph #terrionarnoldupdate #terrionarnoldwaived #isiahpacheco #detroitlionsroster #detroitlionssecondary #lionsrosterconcerns #nfltrainingcamp Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
The Detroit Lions defense in 2025 was not bad, it was untimely. They ranked 22nd in scoring defense but finished 17th in yards allowed per game and ninth on third downs, and Pro Football Focus graded them as a top-five defense overall. The real issue was explosive plays and situational lapses at key moments. Was the Detroit Lions defense actually bad in 2025? No. The unit performed better than its reputation. As Jeff Risdon noted, the Lions were 22nd in points allowed, 17th in yards per game at 332.8, and middle of the pack at 5.4 yards per play. Crucially, they allowed a 36.9 percent third-down conversion rate, which ranked ninth, while the offense converted 38.8 percent, 19th. That disconnect fuels the perception. The defense was on the field in tough spots and failed at the worst times, which is different from being bad snap-to-snap. Which numbers explain the gap between strong grades and points allowed? Excellent. PFF's cumulative defensive grade for Detroit was 81.8, fifth overall, with a 78.5 run defense grade that ranked fourth. Tackling graded at 74.9, second behind the Green Bay Packers. The pass rush ranked fifth, and pressure rate ranked fourth, with help from Detroit Lions edge rusher Aidan Hutchinson. Coverage graded 74.1, tenth. Raw team data backs several strengths: Detroit allowed the sixth-lowest completion rate at 61.6 percent, averaged 7.3 yards per pass allowed which ranked 23rd, and posted an 8.11 percent sack rate, eighth. Special teams graded sixth. The defense simply surrendered too many explosive plays and got burned by short fields when the offense failed on third and fourth downs. Those two factors drove points more than down-to-down quality. What must change in 2026 to turn solid metrics into stops? Cut the explosives and win the pivotal snaps. That means finishing drives with takeaways or stops on third and manageable, and protecting field position instead of gifting short fields. As Jeff Risdon theorized, using more zone coverage and replacing some base 4-3 snaps with extra defensive backs or an additional lineman instead of a linebacker can specifically help in coverage. He also noted using the punter a little more in marginal situations to avoid feeding opponents favorable field position. Turnovers and situational management Risdon's Houston analogy underscores it: clean up turnover differential and third-down execution and a defense that already grades well turns those metrics into points prevented. Do the Lions have the personnel to fix it? Yes. Detroit Lions edge rusher Aidan Hutchinson closed strong after a slump and remains the headliner up front. Detroit Lions linebacker Jack Campbell delivered impact against the run, and the interior pairing of Detroit Lions defensive tackle Alim McNeill and Detroit Lions defensive tackle Tyleik Williams should be a strong one-two punch. Depth has improved in the secondary, though, as Jeff Risdon cautioned, safety Brian Branch and safety Kerby Joseph entering the start of the year is not optimal. Detroit Lions linebacker Alex Anzalone's role can flex within sub-packages to prioritize coverage matchups. Bottom line, as Risdon put it, the defense was unfortunate and untimely in 2025, and those are correctable issues. He's over the 10.5 win total. #detroitlions #lions #detroitlionspodcast #lionsdefense #nflstatistics #pff #pffranking #pffgrades #aidanhutchinson #jackcampbell #alimmcneill #tyleikwilliams #brianbranch #kirbyjoseph #alexanzalone #profootballfocus #losangelesrams #seattleseahawks #greenbaypackers #passrush Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Dr. Liao breaks down Lions injuries The Daily DLP welcomes Dr. Jimmy Liao to the show to talk about the Lions injuries and recoveries. The biggest name is Kerby Joseph, as the safety is dealing with a troublesome knee injury. Dr. Liao breaks down what options the Lions have with the All-Pro, noting that holding him out from the offseason workouts is medically necessary. Brian Branch's Achilles and what defense demands Brian Branch tore his Achilles on December 4, 2025. A comparison was made to another high-profile Achilles tear, San Francisco TE George Kittle, on January 11. The positions are different. Defense is reactive. The secondary lives in backpedals and sudden bursts. That movement is the top mechanism for Achilles injury. It can slow the return for a defensive back compared with an offensive player who can script his steps. Recent rehab clips showed light treadmill jogging. No hard sprinting. No jumping. No cutting. He is roughly six months out and not ahead of schedule on visible benchmarks. The earlier expectation hovered around midseason. There is no clear evidence to move that up. Sam LaPorta's back: progress now, recurrence is the concern Sam LaPorta appeared at OTAs. He caught passes. He is not full go, but the trend is positive. A herniated disc can flare with accumulated contact. Blocking can hyperextend the back. Last season's issue was not a single moment. It built over time. There is a good chance he is ready for Week 1. The question is durability over months, not days. Recurrence risk sits in the background and will only be answered by workload. Depth chart ripple effects: OL Lisfranc, ACL note, and return-game risk An offensive lineman, Ben Bartch, is recovering from Lisfranc surgery. He has not appeared in the first two weeks of OTAs. Lisfranc injuries live in a small, tricky part of the midfoot. Outcomes can be uncertain, especially for a big body that must anchor and drive. The Lions guaranteed $330,000 on his one-year deal, a sign of confidence at signing, but the absence raises flags until he is on the field. Kendrick Law suffered an ACL tear. Standard ACL recoveries are reliable. Barring complications, the expectation is a full return for 2026 OTAs. Safety Dan Jackson has been present in team photos during OTAs. Last year's leg issue lacked detail, but current participation eases concern. Kickoff changes have pushed return rates above 70 percent. Depth at returner matters. The play remains risky for the returner, even as it gets safer for blockers and coverage. Recent examples include a neck scare for Kalif Raymond and a fractured ankle for James Houston on a high-speed collision. Minicamp next week will sharpen clarity across the Detroit Lions depth chart. #detroitlions #lions #detroitlionspodcast #injuries #recoverytimeline #kerbyjoseph #brianbranch #samlaporta #georgekittle #lisfranc #benbartch #danjackson Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
NFC North Roundup: Lions OTA Updates, Bears Minicamp & Stadium Saga, Packers Pay Christian Watson, Vikings QB Battle — Dave (Vikings), Pay (Bears), and Foster (Lions) discuss NFC North offseason developments in June. Foster recaps Detroit OTAs: Penei Sewell shifting to left tackle, rookie Blake Miller's path at right tackle, receiver progress, Kendrick Law's ACL tear, uncertainty around Kerby Joseph's knee, and rumors involving Sam LaPorta's contract value and a potential trade. Pay summarizes Bears minicamp where the defense has outplayed the offense, noting Jaylon Johnson's interceptions, Montez Sweat's return and burst, Caleb Williams' improved command but inconsistent ball placement, Ben Johnson's press-conference intensity, and concerns about Kyler Gordon's availability. They also cover the ongoing Bears stadium negotiations involving Illinois, Chicago, Arlington Heights, and Hammond, Indiana. Green Bay minicamp notes include 17 players in rehab and criticism of Christian Watson's four-year $92M extension. Dave details the Vikings' Kyler Murray vs. J.J. McCarthy QB competition, Murray's complaints about split reps, McCarthy's strong day, improved offensive-line coaching, and speculative McCarthy trade destinations. 00:00 NFC North Roundup Begins 01:09 Packers Jabs and Countdown 02:48 Lions OTA Updates 06:42 LaPorta Rumors and Tackle Shuffle 09:03 Injuries and Kirby Joseph Concern 12:25 Bears Minicamp Takeaways 15:31 Ben Johnson Pressers and Player Heat 18:50 Bears Stadium Saga Escalates 24:48 Arlington Heights vs Hammond Breakdown 28:54 Vikings Stadium Lessons 30:02 Bears Relocation Leverage 31:32 Packers Minicamp Buzz 32:28 Watson Contract Debate 38:01 Vikings QB Battle 39:13 Murray Rep Complaints 44:11 McCarthy Trade Rumors 49:21 Locker Room Media Slant 54:26 Wrap Up Shoutouts FAN WITH US!!! Follow us on Twitter ✖️ for more updates… Pay @TheRealPayday, host of Frustrated Chicago Sports Fan Channel, June @asgjune & M Foster @Mbrfosterchild, hosts of the Bleachers To Speakers [Lions] podcast, and Dave Stefano @Luft_Krigare, from @Vikings1stSKOL. This has been a joint podcast production partnered with Fans First Sports Network @FansFirstSN. ⭐️ Subscribe to us here! - Vikings 1st & SKOL, https://www.youtube.com/@vikings1stskol92 ⭐️ and here - Bleachers to Speakers, https://www.youtube.com/@BleachersToSpeakers-yq8tm ⭐️ and here - Frustrated Chicago Sports Fan, https://www.youtube.com/@FrustratedChicago ⭐️ V1&S on X can be found at @Vikings1stSKOL ⭐️ V1&S Discord at https://discord.com/invite/493z6mQXcN ⭐️ At Fans First Sports Network - https://www.ffsn.app/teams/minnesota-vikings/ ⭐️ Catch it here: https://youtu.be/uLDrLQ_t4vw Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
NFC North Roundup: Lions OTA Updates, Bears Minicamp & Stadium Saga, Packers Pay Christian Watson, Vikings QB Battle — Dave (Vikings), Pay (Bears), and Foster (Lions) discuss NFC North offseason developments in June. Foster recaps Detroit OTAs: Penei Sewell shifting to left tackle, rookie Blake Miller's path at right tackle, receiver progress, Kendrick Law's ACL tear, uncertainty around Kerby Joseph's knee, and rumors involving Sam LaPorta's contract value and a potential trade. Pay summarizes Bears minicamp where the defense has outplayed the offense, noting Jaylon Johnson's interceptions, Montez Sweat's return and burst, Caleb Williams' improved command but inconsistent ball placement, Ben Johnson's press-conference intensity, and concerns about Kyler Gordon's availability. They also cover the ongoing Bears stadium negotiations involving Illinois, Chicago, Arlington Heights, and Hammond, Indiana. Green Bay minicamp notes include 17 players in rehab and criticism of Christian Watson's four-year $92M extension. Dave details the Vikings' Kyler Murray vs. J.J. McCarthy QB competition, Murray's complaints about split reps, McCarthy's strong day, improved offensive-line coaching, and speculative McCarthy trade destinations. 00:00 NFC North Roundup Begins 01:09 Packers Jabs and Countdown 02:48 Lions OTA Updates 06:42 LaPorta Rumors and Tackle Shuffle 09:03 Injuries and Kirby Joseph Concern 12:25 Bears Minicamp Takeaways 15:31 Ben Johnson Pressers and Player Heat 18:50 Bears Stadium Saga Escalates 24:48 Arlington Heights vs Hammond Breakdown 28:54 Vikings Stadium Lessons 30:02 Bears Relocation Leverage 31:32 Packers Minicamp Buzz 32:28 Watson Contract Debate 38:01 Vikings QB Battle 39:13 Murray Rep Complaints 44:11 McCarthy Trade Rumors 49:21 Locker Room Media Slant 54:26 Wrap Up Shoutouts FAN WITH US!!! Follow us on Twitter ✖️ for more updates… Pay @TheRealPayday, host of Frustrated Chicago Sports Fan Channel, June @asgjune & M Foster @Mbrfosterchild, hosts of the Bleachers To Speakers [Lions] podcast, and Dave Stefano @Luft_Krigare, from @Vikings1stSKOL. This has been a joint podcast production partnered with Fans First Sports Network @FansFirstSN. ⭐️ Subscribe to us here! - Vikings 1st & SKOL, https://www.youtube.com/@vikings1stskol92 ⭐️ and here - Bleachers to Speakers, https://www.youtube.com/@BleachersToSpeakers-yq8tm ⭐️ and here - Frustrated Chicago Sports Fan, https://www.youtube.com/@FrustratedChicago ⭐️ V1&S on X can be found at @Vikings1stSKOL ⭐️ V1&S Discord at https://discord.com/invite/493z6mQXcN ⭐️ At Fans First Sports Network - https://www.ffsn.app/teams/minnesota-vikings/ ⭐️ Catch it here: https://youtu.be/uLDrLQ_t4vw Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Detroit Lions OTA Update: What We're Learning in June The offseason calendar may still say June, but the Detroit Lions are already building the foundation for what they hope will be a bounce-back season in 2026. OTA practices are underway, the rookie class is settling in, and the coaching staff is beginning the long process of turning offseason plans into on-field results. On this episode of the Detroit Lions Podcast, Chris and Jeff Risdon take a deep dive into the latest OTA updates, examine some lingering roster questions, and tackle one of the most interesting long-term storylines surrounding the organization. They also find time to enjoy one of the more amusing developments elsewhere in the NFC North. The football may not count yet, but the conversations absolutely do. OTA Observations and Early Position Battles The biggest takeaway from the opening phase of OTAs is that this roster remains remarkably competitive. The Lions continue to benefit from a strong core built by Brad Holmes and Dan Campbell, but there are plenty of jobs still available for younger players looking to establish themselves. The 2026 draft class has already generated attention, with first-round selection Blake Miller beginning the process of integrating into one of the NFL's most respected offensive line rooms. While OTA practices rarely provide definitive answers, they do offer clues about how coaches envision player roles heading into training camp. The coaching staff is also evaluating depth throughout the secondary, linebacker room, and defensive front. Detroit learned difficult lessons about depth during recent seasons, and the organization appears determined to create competition throughout the roster. There are also the inevitable Lions injury concerns that accompany every spring. OTAs are designed to build toward September, not win headlines in June. Managing workloads, monitoring recovery timelines, and ensuring key veterans arrive healthy for training camp remains one of the most important objectives of the offseason. The Kerby Joseph Question Few players have generated more discussion this offseason than Kerby Joseph. The talented safety has become one of the more impactful playmakers in Detroit's defense, but his future remains a topic of conversation among Lions fans. Is he a foundational piece of the franchise's long-term plans? What would a potential extension look like? How does Detroit balance roster building with future salary cap commitments? These are the kinds of questions that become increasingly important as successful teams transition from building a roster to maintaining one. Chris and Jeff will examine where Joseph fits into the broader picture and what his future could mean for the Lions moving forward. Meanwhile, in Chicago... No NFC North discussion would be complete without checking in on the division rivals. The latest developments surrounding the Chicago Bears and their ongoing stadium saga have created plenty of conversation across the Midwest. The possibility of the Bears ultimately leaving Illinois for a new stadium development in Indiana has sparked strong reactions from fans, politicians, and just about everyone else with an opinion on the matter. For Lions fans, it serves as a reminder that not every offseason storyline revolves around football. Sometimes the most entertaining developments happen far away from the field. Join Chris and Jeff Risdon on the Detroit Lions Podcast for a complete 2026 OTA Update, including roster observations, injury concerns, Kerby Joseph's future, NFC North developments, and everything else happening around the Detroit Lions as preparations for the 2026 NFL season continue. #DetroitLions, #Lions, #DetroitLionsPodcast, #OnePride, #DetroitVsEverybody, #KerbyJoseph, #NFLOTA, #LionsNation, #NFLOffseason, #BradHolmes #detroitlions #lions #detroitlionspodcast #detroitlionsota #kirbyjosephknee #kendricklawinjury #leftguardbattle #christianmahogany #milesfrazier #juicescruggs #benbartch #blakemillerrighttackle #peneisewelllefttackle #chuckclarksafety #avontemaddox #thomasharper #tyleikwilliams #hammondbears Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
7:00 HOUR: Cookie Jar, Dan Campbell talks about Kerby Joseph and the Rams acquiring Myles Garrett
Mike and Rico reacted to what Dan Campbell had to say about the latest on Kerby Joseph's potential status for 2026. This topic was abruptly interrupted when they got word of Dylan Larkin requesting a trade from the Red Wings.
It's not looking good for Kerby Joseph's status for 2026...
The people chime in to share their concerns regarding Kerby Joseph's status for 2026 and beyond.
What to expect from Kerby Joseph?
Jack Campbell gets PAID! Kerby Joseph, Brian Branch, and Sam LaPorta are mysteries. And so is that O-line... A lot of questions asked and answered as Dave Birkett takes us inside the Lions OTA's! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Costa & Jansen get this week's Best Of The Lions started asking why fans are re-hashing the 2023 NFC Championship. Then, Karsch & Anderson asked if you'd rather have free agent Ravens C Tyler Linderbaum or the Raiders' DE Maxx Crosby via trade, Valenti & Rico discuss a concerning report about Kerby Joseph's injury, and more!