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For this show-within-a-show, Craig and Andrew learned about the world of Middle-Earth by reading J.R.R. Tolkien's posthumously published legendarium THE SILMARILLION. This episode posted first for our Patreon supporters in August 2025. If you want to hear our current longread project TOKYO DRIFTERS (and a bunch of other stuff besides), visit Patreon.com/overduepod.Let us talk about Men, but not too much -- for many elves have returned to Middle-Earth! Let us instead pass the time with talk of the Noldor and their curse: the Doom of Mandos. Morgoth may yet hold the Silmarils, but he is surrounded by Fëanor's Large Adult Sons and their kin. A peace (of sorts) is achieved (sort of).Also, Tolkien gives us one heck of a geography lesson.The reading list:Ep 1 - Ainulindale, Valaquenta, Quenta Silmarillion Ch 1-3Ep 2 - Quenta Silmarillion Ch 4-10Ep 3 - Quenta Silmarillion Ch 11-16Ep 4 - Quenta Silmarillion Ch 17-20Ep 5 - Quenta Silmarillion Ch 21-24Ep 6 - Alkallabeth, Of the Rings of Power and the Third Age, AppendicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week we begin one of the most fascinating—and challenging—sections in Unfinished Tales: The History of Galadriel and Celeborn. Christopher Tolkien takes us through the many different versions of Galadriel's story, exploring how his father's ideas about her changed over time. Along the way, we'll revisit the early history of the Elves, the rebellion of the Noldor, and the events that led Galadriel to leave Valinor for Middle-earth. Why did she go? Why didn't she return? As it turns out, the answer depends on which version of the story you're reading! Join us as we dive into the complicated, contradictory, and endlessly fascinating history of one of Tolkien's greatest characters.Want more Sisters of the Shire?https://linktr.ee/sistersoftheshirepodcasthttps://www.instagram.com/sistersoftheshirepodcast/https://www.patreon.com/sistersoftheshirepodcasthttps://open.spotify.com/show/1HIhmdeX6761vi7RyOjl8f?si=_qwdGdP7SbmAP2RWlji54w

Welcome to Day 2831 of Wisdom-Trek, and thank you for joining me. This is Guthrie Chamberlain, Your Guide to Wisdom – Theology Thursday – J R R Tolkien's Theological Imagination: Rebellion, Redemption, and the Divine Pattern Wisdom-Trek Podcast Script - Day 2831 Welcome to Wisdom-Trek with Gramps!   I am Guthrie Chamberlain, and we are on Day 2831 of our Trek.   The Purpose of Wisdom-Trek is to create a legacy of wisdom, to seek out discernment and insights, and to boldly grow where few have chosen to grow before. Our current series of Theology Thursday lessons is written by theologian and teacher John Daniels. I have found that his lessons are short, easy to understand, doctrinally sound, and applicable to all who desire to learn more of God's Word. John's lessons can be found on his website   theologyinfive.com.   Today's lesson is titled:  J R R Tolkien's Theological Imagination: Rebellion, Redemption, and the Divine Pattern. J R R  Tolkien believed storytelling was a sacred act. As a devout Catholic, his fiction was shaped not by overt allegory but by deep theological truths. Through the concept of subcreation, Tolkien affirmed that humans, made in the image of the Creator, have the capacity to craft secondary worlds that echo divine realities. While The Lord of the Rings is not an allegory, its themes align powerfully with Christian theology and the Divine Council Worldview (DCWV), a framework in Scripture that speaks of God ruling among other spiritual beings and assigning nations to them after Babel. The first segment is: The Powers and Principalities of Arda. Tolkien's legendarium includes a clear divine hierarchy. At the top is Eru Ilúvatar, the One, creator of all. He is the source of the Ainulindalë-the- the Music of the Ainur-through which the world is first imagined. Even when Melkor introduces discord into the harmony, seeking to dominate the music with his own themes, Eru responds not with destruction but with deeper orchestration. He tells Melkor that all the discord he weaves will only serve to make the final symphony more profound. Nothing, not even rebellion, lies outside Eru's ultimate sovereignty. This reflects a vision of God's authority that is both supreme and redemptive, where even the schemes of the wicked are ultimately turned to the fulfillment of divine purpose. Below Ilúvatar are the Ainur, powerful spiritual beings created before the shaping of the world. Among them, the Valar function as guardian spirits of Arda, similar in structure to the Divine Council of Psalm 82. The Maiar, lesser but still mighty beings, assist the Valar. Gandalf and Sauron both belong to this order. Just as in Divine Council Worldview, where God delegates spiritual authority to lesser elohim, Tolkien's mythos reflects a structure where divine beings are given spheres of responsibility. Yet, like in Scripture, rebellion corrupts this order, setting the stage for cosmic conflict. In the end, those spirits who persist in rebellion are not merely restrained but ultimately removed forever from the renewed creation. Their fate reflects the biblical destiny of the fallen sons of God, whose judgment ensures that the restored order will no longer be corrupted by their presence. The second segment is: Melkor, Sauron, and the Corruption of Divine Authority Melkor, later known as Morgoth, the mightiest of the Ainur, mirrors the rebel gods in biblical theology. His pride leads him to seek domination rather than stewardship. Morgoth's rebellion reflects the cosmic insurrection of Psalm 82 and Isaiah 14, spiritual beings grasping for power they were never meant to wield. Sauron, his chief lieutenant, becomes a second-tier deceiver who continues Morgoth's dark legacy. Like the sons of God in Genesis 6 and Deuteronomy 32, Sauron imposes false worship and enslaves others, manipulating through fear and domination. The rings of power function almost like tokens of delegated but twisted authority, tools meant for order, turned toward control. The third segment is: Sacred Geography and Territorial Spirits Middle-earth is shaped by geography charged with meaning. From the spiritual corruption of Mordor to the divine echoes of Lothlórien and the exile of Númenor, Tolkien paints a world where places are more than political. They are spiritual battlegrounds. This resonates with the DCWV understanding of cosmic geography, the biblical idea that certain regions are under the influence of rebellious divine beings. Tolkien's world shows that the land itself can groan under the weight of spiritual oppression or be hallowed by divine presence. The Fourth Segment is: Free Will, Providence, and the Role of Mortals Tolkien's theology insists that free will matters, even in a world shaped by fate. This mirrors the DCWV framework in which God's imagers, both divine and human, are granted real choice. The fall of Melkor and Sauron is not deterministic, nor is Frodo's endurance guaranteed. Instead, history is a tapestry of choices woven into divine purposes. Even Gollum, an unlikely figure, plays a providential role through his disobedience. As Elrond says, “Even the very wise cannot see all ends.” God remains sovereign in Tolkien's world, but human (and hobbit) agency is honored. At the same time, Tolkien also shows that Ilúvatar does not remain distant. When free will threatens to unravel the entire order of creation-such as with the rebellion of Númenor-Eru steps in directly. That rebellion was not born in a vacuum. It was Sauron, functioning as a kind of Satan figure, who seduced the Númenóreans with promises of godhood, twisting their fear of death into a desire for domination. Under his influence, they turned against the Valar and Ilúvatar himself. In response, Ilúvatar reshapes the world, removes Valinor from its physical reach, and ensures the continuation of his plan. Divine intervention is rare, but never absent, reflecting a theology where human freedom is real, yet ultimately guided by a higher will. The fifth segment is: Christ Figures and Divine Reversal Tolkien avoids a single Christ figure, but the roles of prophet, priest, and king are reflected across characters. Gandalf, as a Maia, is sent back as a resurrected figure who guides and speaks truth. Frodo, the suffering servant, bears the burden of evil though it scars him permanently. Aragorn, the hidden king, returns to heal and rule with justice. Their combined roles reflect a mosaic of messianic themes, aligned with DCWV's understanding that God's rule is ultimately restored through His chosen representative. The sixth Segment is: The Redemption of the Noldor One of the most profound theological arcs in Tolkien's legendarium is the redemption of the Noldor. These High Elves, once dwellers in the light of Valinor, chose rebellion. Under Fëanor, they defied the Valar, left the Blessed Realm without permission, and pursued Morgoth in pride and vengeance. Their exile into Middle-earth was a direct consequence of their disobedience, and their long suffering across the First, Second, and Third Ages reflects the cost of that choice. And yet, by the time of The Lord of the Rings, the story shifts. Elrond, Galadriel, and others of Noldorin descent are no longer defined by rebellion but by wisdom, sacrifice, and faithful stewardship. Galadriel, who once sought dominion and glory, now resists the temptation of the One Ring. Elrond becomes a healer, counselor, and protector. Their final return to Valinor is not a defeat or escape, but a homecoming long delayed. It is the restoration of exiles whose hearts have been refined by ages of sorrow and service. This echoes the biblical pattern of return from exile, of forgiveness extended to those who wandered far but endured. Their story is not one of perfection, but of transformation. In the end, the Noldor who return do so not in pride, but in humility. And Valinor, far from rejecting them, welcomes them home. In Conclusion Tolkien didn't write sermons, but he did what theology often fails to do. He made us feel the weight of glory, the darkness of evil, and the staggering grace of redemption. His myth tells the same cosmic story as Scripture: creation, rebellion, judgment, mercy, and restoration. By embedding DCWV themes into his secondary world, Tolkien baptized the imagination and helped countless readers glimpse the true story beneath all stories. For further study, consider these Discussion Questions How does Tolkien's portrayal of Eru Ilúvatar compare to the biblical view of God's sovereignty, especially in response to rebellion? In what ways does the story of the Noldor reflect biblical themes of exile, refinement, and return? How does Tolkien depict the relationship between free will and divine providence across different characters and events? What parallels can be drawn between Sauron's temptation of Númenor and the biblical role of Satan in stirring rebellion? How does Tolkien's treatment of spiritual rebellion and ultimate judgment align with the destiny of fallen divine beings in Scripture? Join us next Theology Thursday to learn Fencing the Torah: When Guardrails Become a Cage If you found this podcast insightful, please subscribe and leave us a review, then...

Join The Man of the West for a Word-nerd Wednesday deep dive into Tolkien's early name for the Elves we now know as the Noldor, and learn why he could use it Gnome-Or (just say it out loud… no more). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Eine neue Folge: Einschlafen in Tolkiens Welt

The war goes badly for the Noldor, and Fingolfin finds himself knocking on the door of the most powerful being in Middle-earth as we continue our readings in Of the Ruin of Beleriand and the (spoilers) Fall of Fingolfin. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What else is new, right? Join The Man of the West for a deep dive into the name of the first High King of the Noldor and a few other words from our recent Silmarillion Saturday readings. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Noldor depart from Valinor in pursuit of the Silmarils. It...does not go well... Wars are waged. Hidden kingdoms are established. The Noldor lose two kings. Men appear on the scene. Morgoth slowly gains the upper hand.

Eine neue Folge: Einschlafen in Tolkiens Welt

Join The Man of the West as he begins the story of Aredhel, the White Lady of the Noldor, and her ill-advised departure from Gondolin. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In which co-hosts Kenny and Sam discuss chapters 17 and 18 of the Quenta Silmarillion, including the coming of men into Beleriand, the death of Fingolfin, and Hurin and Huor's visit to Gondolin.Primary sources: The Silmarillion | The Lord of the Rings | The Letters of J.R.R. TolkienLeave us a review! Send us an email at entmootpod@gmail.com! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This week, the stories of Eärendil and the War of Wrath in Chapter XXIV of J.R.R. Tolkien's The Silmarillion. How does Tolkien stick the landing in the story of Beleriand and First Age? How do we understand the consequences of the Oath of Fëanor and the Doom of the Noldor? Are there hints of a happy ending?To see the video broadcast of this episode, click here; to see the slides, click here!Next week, the story of the Second Age and the Fall of Númenor in Akallabêth, live on YouTube on Thursday, July 3rd at 9PM Central.Footnotes:The SilmarillionStars And Swords on YouTubeThe Silmarillion Unit Production ScheduleStars And Swords on Bookshop.orgPopulations of Middle Earth in the First Age - Part 1: The Elves To join me for the live YouTube broadcast, to support the podcast, to join the conversation on Discord and to get access to monthly bonus episodes, please visit Patreon.com/NextWord and pledge your support!  ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

In which co-hosts Kenny and Sam discuss chapters 13 and 14 of the Quenta Silmarillion, including the death of Feanor, the reuniting of the Noldor, and a very long description of a map. To make "Of Beleriand and Its Realms" a bit easier to digest, here are a couple maps: this one by Tolkien himself, this "cleaner" one by Sirelle on DeviantArt, and this political map by u/tolkien_erklaert on Reddit.Primary sources: The Silmarillion | The Lord of the Rings | The Letters of J.R.R. TolkienAlso mentioned:Atlas of Middle-Earth - Karen Wynn FonstadThe Worlds of J.R.R. Tolkien - John GarthThe Verge - Patrick Wyman Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This week, we face battle and bloodshed in Beleriand in Chapters XIII and XIV of J.R.R. Tolkien's The Silmarillion. Is Fëanor's fate inevitable? How do we understand the rescue of Maedhros in the context of the Doom of the Noldor? Why do we get so much geography?To see the video broadcast of this episode, click here; to see the slides, click here!Next week, we continue our journey with everything to the end of Chapter XV of the Quenta Silmarillion, live on YouTube on Wednesday, April 2nd at 8PM Central.Footnotes:The SilmarillionStars And Swords on YouTubeThe Silmarillion Unit Production ScheduleStars And Swords on Bookshop.orgLOTRProject.comTo join me for the live YouTube broadcast, to support the podcast, to join the conversation on Discord and to get access to monthly bonus episodes, please visit Patreon.com/NextWord and pledge your support! ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

This week, we continue our discussion of The Silmarillion with the end of Chapter IX and all of Chapter X, including the Doom of the Noldor, a quick recap of three thousand years of the elves back in Beleriand, and some cosmic renovation.

The House of Finwë shaped the fate of the Noldor, from Fëanor's fiery rebellion to Fingolfin's heroism and Finarfin's wisdom. Jeff Haecker, Thomas Salerno, and Patrick Mason recount the family's triumphs, tragedies, and the doom that followed their choices. The post The House of Finwe appeared first on StarQuest Media.

Join The Man of the West as the Noldor of Eregion hearken to the persuasive words of the Lord of Gifts, much to their dismay. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Tread Perilously begins a cornucopia of sci-fi with the most infamous episode of Torchwood: "Cyberwoman." When Ianto Jones invites a specialist in Cyber tech to Torchwood 3, all hell breaks loose. It turns out he's been keeping his partially Cyber-ized girlfriend on life support since the Battle of Canary Wharf. He's using a Cyber-conversion machine to do it. And none of the others know about it. Of course, Cybermen are going to Cyberman, but will a "Cyberwoman" also seek to make all organic life like her? Also: what will Captain Jack Harkness do when he learns Ianto has been keeping a woman prisoner in their basement? Justin faces his first -- and possibly last -- episode of Torchwood. He learns almost immediately why Erik has been putting this one off for so long. Episode writer Chris Chibnall is, once again, in the hot seat. Erik is accused of being a David Tennant fan. The weeds lead to some darker places, but also to discussion of The Tick, the Noldor, and more. Justin tries to make sense of Torchwood as a concept.  He also notes Erik's "angry" British accent. A surprise Burn Gorman appears! White Water Summer is used to prove a point. The viscosity of Ianto becomes important and Justin suggests Torchwood isn't sexy enough.

After Morgoth is defeated and captured, Sauron repents of his deeds, but upon facing a sentence from Manwë flees into Middle-earth and returns to his evil ways. After the War of Wrath, Beleriand is destroyed and swallowed by the sea up to Ered Luin. Gil-galad rules Lindon by the Gulf of Lhûn just east of Ered Luin. Teleri elves from Doriath and Ossiriand move inland and dwell among Silvan Elves. The remaining Noldor dwell in Eregion near Khazad-dûm and prosper in friendship with the Dwarves. Sauron seeks to gain influence over the Noldori Elves. He wins them over by insisting that he desires to make Middle-earth a great land. He calls himself Lord of Gifts and shares his knowledge and lore with them. The Elves create several Rings of Power. Sauron creates his One Ring in order to control the wearers of the other rings. Due to their might, he is forced to put much of his strength into the One Ring, but he is able to see all that is done by the wearers of the Rings of Power. The Elves sense him and remove their rings. In anger, Sauron makes open war on them and demands that they give over the rings since they were made with his lore. The Elves flee and are able to save the greatest Three Rings: Narya, the Ring of Fire; Nenya, the Ring of Water; and Vilya, the Ring of Air. 01:19 Dan reads pages 285-288 from the Silmarillion, 2nd Edition 13:19 Summary 14:59 Discussion ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Watch this Episode on ⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Send feedback to beforethefellowship@gmail.com Follow us as we follow Tolkien: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TWITTER⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠DISCORD⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The Rings of Power comes to Amazon, but nothing compares to the real story JRR Tolkien wrote. Is the Silmarillion his masterpiece? The Silmarillion is a book everyone should read, but it can be intimidating. Go on a journey with us. Witness the creation of Tolkien's universe, meet the villain that's bigger and badder than Sauron, and hear a love story that will leave you in tears. We are not experts, we're just fans like you. And we're having a blast going through this masterpiece of fiction, 15 minutes at a time. Grab a cup of tea or your favorite scotch (or your steering wheel!) and join us every week! --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/beforethefellowship/support

Continuing their exploration of The Silmarillion, Thomas Salerno, Patrick Mason, and Jeff Haecker discuss "The Return of the Noldor" and the themes of victory and loss, leadership, loyalty, and kinship and the pride of the Noldor. The post Quenta Silmarillion, Ch: 13 The Return of the Noldor appeared first on StarQuest Media.

Marilyn and Sara spend time with the Noldor, comparing the ritual of the warrior Elves returning home to Valinor with Arthurian imagery, questioning the practice of carving memorials on living trees, and noting contrasts between Elves and Harfoots.Questions or comments? Visit us at our website where you can use the contact form or use the voicemail feature. Or, send an email to ringsandrituals@thelorehounds.com.Links to Network Affiliates and Discordlinktr.ee/thelorehoundsAny opinions stated are ours personally and do not reflect the opinion of or belong to any employers or other entities.

The Valar discuss Eärendil's fate, and Manwë decrees that Eärendil, Elwing, and their sons will decide to join their fate to Men or Elves. Eärendil and Elwing choose the fate of the Elves. Vingilot, Eärendil's ship, is hallowed, and Eärendil is able to sail through the heavens and beyond the confines of the world. Meanwhile the hosts of the Valar, along with the Vanyar, the Noldor under Finarfin, and the Teleri prepare to wage war on Morgoth. 01:48 Greg reads pages 249-251 from the Silmarillion, 2nd Edition 10:21 Summary 11:40 Discussion "For its glory is seen now by many, and is yet secure from all evil." ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Watch this Episode on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Send feedback to beforethefellowship@gmail.com Follow us as we follow Tolkien: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TWITTER⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠DISCORD⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The Rings of Power comes to Amazon, but nothing compares to the real story JRR Tolkien wrote. Is the Silmarillion his masterpiece? The Silmarillion is a book everyone should read, but it can be intimidating. Go on a journey with us. Witness the creation of Tolkien's universe, meet the villain that's bigger and badder than Sauron, and hear a love story that will leave you in tears. We are not experts, we're just fans like you. And we're having a blast going through this masterpiece of fiction, 15 minutes at a time. Grab a cup of tea or your favorite scotch (or your steering wheel!) and join us every week! --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/beforethefellowship/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/beforethefellowship/support

Continuing their walk through the Silmarillion, Thomas Salerno, Jeff Haecker, and Patrick Mason discuss the tragic kinslaying and the oath that would bring doom to Middle Earth as well as the themes of pride, betrayal and the consequences of your actions. The post Quenta Silmarillion, Ch. 9: Flight of the Noldor appeared first on StarQuest Media.

Marilyn and Sara spend time with the Noldor, comparing the ritual of the warrior Elves returning home to Valinor with Arthurian imagery, questioning the practice of carving memorials on living trees, and noting contrasts between Elves and Harfoots.Contact UsQuestions or comments? Visit us at our website where you can use the contact form or use the voicemail feature. Or, send an email to ringsandrituals@thelorehounds.comFind us on BlueSky @thelorehounds or join us for further discussion on our Community Discord Server.Support us on Supercast or Patreon:https://thelorehounds.supercast.comhttps://www.patreon.com/thelorehoundsCheck Out Our Affiliate Podcasts:Severance PodcastWool-Shift-DustProperly Howard Movie ReviewsAny opinions stated are ours personally and do not reflect the opinion of or belong to any employers or other entities.Subscribe to the Rings & Rituals Podcast Feed Contact Us Questions or comments? Visit us at our website where you can use the contact form or use the voicemail feature. Or, send an email to: ringsandrituals@thelorehounds.com. Find us on BlueSky @thelorehounds or join us for further discussion on our Discord Server. Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thelorehounds Listen to the Main Lorehounds Feed: The Lorehounds Podcast Listen to Our Severance Feed: Severance Podcast Listen to Elysia on the Wool-Shift-Dust Podcast: Wool-Shift-Dust Listen to Steve and Anthony talk about movies: Properly Howard Any opinions stated are ours personally and do not reflect the opinion of or belong to any employers or other entities.

Would you like to hear more about Tuor's adventures past the Gate of the Noldor?! Do you want to be mesmerized by the BEAUTIFUL descriptions our man J.R.R. Tolkien wrote about the places Tuor sees along the way!? Then join us this week on the Sisters of the Shire Podcast! https://linktr.ee/sistersoftheshirepodcast https://www.instagram.com/sistersoftheshirepodcast/ https://www.patreon.com/sistersoftheshirepodcast --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/sistersoftheshire/support

The Man of the West continues his read-through and discussion of the chapter Of the Noldor in Beleriand as Thingol hears, but once again doesn't really listen to, Melian. Also, great-uncles can be mean!

Who is ready for more details on Tuor's cross country trip to find the Gate of the Noldor? The Silmarillion broke this part into just a few sentences, but in the Unfinished Tales we get ALL the details, dialogue, and singing?! Listen this week to find out all about it at the Sisters of the Shire Podcast! --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/sistersoftheshire/support

I'm not sure Melian shares Galadriel's optimism on that point. Join The Man of the West as we read more in Of the Noldor in Beleriand and join Melian in asking, “What are the Noldor hiding, and why is it Fëanor?”

You know the rest, folks — and if you don't, that's why you're listening to this show! Join The Man of the West as we open the chapter Of the Noldor in Beleriand and learn about the founding of the most beautiful city in the history of Middle-earth: the Hidden City of Gondolin.

Gil-galad, the last High King of the Noldor, is a prominent figure of Middle-earth's Second Age. But he is also mysterious. How is it we can ask where he came from or who his father is and have multiple answers and explanations? This episode is an exploration of Gil-galad's written history and why the publication of The Silmarillion and J.R.R. Tolkien's expanding Legendarium had an impact on Gil-galad's place in the Legendarium. I started writing about Tolkien's Legendarium in 2017 and created a YouTube channel called "The Red Book" in 2021, allowing me to dive into Tolkien's mythology. I now have a channel under my own name and if you wish to support my ongoing project, please visit my channel or even support through Patreon. YouTube - ⁠⁠⁠www.youtube.com/@stevengibbyt⁠ Patreon - ⁠⁠⁠www.patreon.com/stevengibb⁠ Original Video - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://youtu.be/4Fsq9Akhq3Y?si=QEmIS75JrYxRIV90⁠

We bring our Noldor series to a close as they get to Middle-earth. It's the end of the beginning. It gets a bit... heated. Massive thank you to Alex from The Silmarillion Soundtrack who let us use "The Oath of Feanor" track in this episode. What a work of art it is! You can find him: Instagram - @silmarillionsoundtrack Spotify - AlexSonicsMusic

Tuor, son of Huor, is moved by Ulmo to depart the land of his fathers. He travels westward to the sea and discovers arms left by Turgon in Vinyamar. Ulmo appears to him, urges him to seek the hidden kingdom of Gondolin, and gives him a great cloak. Tuor meets an elf, Voronwë, who is the last survivor of the ships that Turgon sent into the west, and after hearing Tuor's story leads him to the door of Gondolin. 02:20 Dan reads pages 238-241 from the Silmarillion, 2nd Edition 14:39 Summary 16:08 Discussion "Love not too well the work of thy hands and the devices of thy heart; and remember the true hope of the Noldor lieth in the West, and cometh from the Sea." ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Watch this Episode on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Send feedback to beforethefellowship@gmail.com Follow us as we follow Tolkien: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TWITTER⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠DISCORD⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The Rings of Power comes to Amazon, but nothing compares to the real story JRR Tolkien wrote. Is the Silmarillion his masterpiece? The Silmarillion is a book everyone should read, but it can be intimidating. Go on a journey with us. Witness the creation of Tolkien's universe, meet the villain that's bigger and badder than Sauron, and hear a love story that will leave you in tears. We are not experts, we're just fans like you. And we're having a blast going through this masterpiece of fiction, 15 minutes at a time. Grab a cup of tea or your favorite scotch (or your steering wheel!) and join us every week! --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/beforethefellowship/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/beforethefellowship/support

https://linktr.ee/lotradhome We discuss why elf divorce is a very important issue, then we discuss the elf you love to hate (Feanor) and what happens to the Noldor as a result of Morgoth's lies. We get deep and continue the history of the Noldor in our ongoing series. For the nerds: We discuss some views on the statute of Finwe and Miriel, the Oath of Feanor, the exile to Formenos and the Noldor's view of the Darkening of Valinor.

We'll let Gandalf explore the dungeons of Dol Guldur; The Man of the West will explore its etymology. Observe his shocked face as he learns the connection between the Noldor and dark sorcery.This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5854727/advertisement

https://linktr.ee/lotradhome First episode in our series on the Noldor Elves. We take a look at their history and notable figures. My bias for Feanor really shows here.

All about the Noldor.

Jared, Oriana and Ned discuss Oriana's choice of topic: the Noldor. Also termed the Deep-elves and, in early versions of the legendarium, the Gnomes – thankfully changed given unavoidable associations – they were one of the three ethnicities of the Eldar in general, the first Children of Iluvatar. As compared to the serene Vanyar and the many generally lower-key societies of the Teleri, the Noldor were the ones most driven by the desire to create and to learn about the world in general, though these tendencies, exacerbated by Melkor in his Valinorean captivity and the internal family strife of their royal house, resulted in all the many deeds of fame in Middle-earth on the one hand but also their near total destruction and eventual fading away on the other. By the time of The Lord of the Rings, only small societies and remnants were left, casting an influence on the course of events but not directing them. What can we learn from the stories of the women of the Noldor in particular, not just Galadriel but other figures such as Fëanor's mother Míriel and his wife Nerdanel or the Nargothrond princess Finduilas? What throughlines did Tolkien suggest in terms of how the Noldor both seemed the most human of the Elves as well as being driven by the same ambiguous creative impulses that haunted any number of beings in the legendarium? How does the decision to keep them from the center of the many arcs of The Lord of the Rings help shape the book into being the story that it is? And just how much of an obsessive creative type do you have to be to not only devise the writing system for your culture but to insist on sticking to a particular pronunciation because you're still mad about how things ended up with your family?Show Notes.Jared's doodle. Plus a bonus Galadriel-as-Carmen Miranda sketch. (The episode provides context. Sorta.)Negotiations, negotiations. The SAG-AFTRA strike has a lot of it.The new edition of the letters will be out in mid-November.Holly Ordway's book Tolkien's Faith.The Bandcamp Daily story on Jim Kirkwood and his early Tolkien-inspired work.Some details on Starve Acre, the new Morfydd Clark/Mat Smith folk horror film.I mean if you WANT the Tolkien Gateway definition of the Noldor…Recommending the Andy Serkis reading of The Silmarillion once more!Our episode on Galadriel.Turgon via Tolkien Gateway; relatedly, our episode on The Fall of Gondolin.Gildor Inglorion, a truly fascinating character, as is Voronwë.Míriel and Nerdanel – and they have stories that were not fully told…Glorfindel seems like he's about to be a major character in The Lord of the Rings…and then he's not!We discussed the Kinslaying as part of our episode on evil.Ah yes, The Shibboleth of Fëanor. Boy this is nuts. And great at the same time. Then there's the Oath of Fëanor. Maybe review the language first before you sign a contract.Our episodes on “Leaf by Niggle” (as part of Tree and Leaf) and Smith of Wootton Major.Finduilas – again, would be good to learn more about her! See also our episode on The Children of Húrin.And yes The Wheel of Time is really good. Really!Support By-The-Bywater and our network, Megaphonic, on Patreon, and hang out with us in a friendly Discord!

With this episode, the War of Sauron Upon The Elves (what we might also call the War of the Three Rings) begins. And given the relative length of the next 3 chapters, as well as their unified theme, I decided to combine them into this one episode.The chapters we'll be looking at are:- 1693 - War of the Elves and Sauron Begins. The Three Rings Are Hidden. - 1695 - Sauron's forces invade Eriador. Gil-galad sends Elrond to Eregion.- 1697 - Eregion Laid Waste. Death of Celebrimbor. The Gates Of Moria Are Shut. Elrond Retreats with Remnant of the Noldor and Founds the Refuge of Imladris. Join us!Join us!WATCH THE VIDEO » https://youtu.be/DnI07pSeqXQWATCH AD-FREE » https://www.patreon.com/posts/ad-free-video-of-90407864EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS:- Kaitlyn of Tea with Tolkien- John R- Jacob Lockham- John H- Melkor27- KGFOLLOW & SUPPORT THE TOLKIEN ROAD:PATREON » SUPERFANS!TWITTERFACEBOOKINSTAGRAMLINKS & MATHOMS:- take 10% OFF Tolkien Road merch at True Myths Press » https://truemythspress.com/discount/TENOFF (enter code TENOFF at checkout)- listen to TOLKIEN'S WORKS for FREE » https://www.audibletrial.com/everon- buy Tolkien's Requiem » https://tolkiensrequiem.com/ - buy Tolkien's Overture » https://tolkiensoverture.com/SPECIAL THANKS TO THE FOLLOWING PATRONS:- John R- Kaitlyn of Tea with Tolkien- Jacob Lockham- John H- Melkor27- KG- Emilio P- Jonathan D- Robert H- Paul D- Julia- Werty- JoeBagelMan- Richard K- Matt R- Matthew W- John W- Eugene D- Chris B- Daniel S- Seb M- Cory C- Carolyn S- Emiel K- Ms. Anonymous- Andrew T- Redhawk- Shannon S- Brian O- Zeke F- James L- Chris L- Asya V- Ish of the Hammer- Teresa C- David of Pints with Jack- Eric B- AlaskanMoose31AS WELL AS THOSE CELEBRATING THEIR PATRON ANNIVERSARY IN SEPTEMBER OR OCTOBER OF 2023- Catherine- Tom S- Cheri R- Stephanie B- John W- Alan C- Dustin Q- Robert S- Melkor27- Eugene D- James L- Ken P- Samuel B- Redhawk- Alex SThis show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5222755/advertisement

The full title of this chapters is "c1500 - The Elven Smiths Instructed By Sauron Reach The Height Of Their Skill. They Begin The Forging of the Rings of Power."In this episode, we discuss the nature of Sauron's "gifts" to the Noldor, and how their nature and past makes them particularly prone to Sauron's malevolent plot.Join us as we discuss!WATCH THE VIDEO » https://youtu.be/1tsKulWfUBkWATCH AD-FREE » https://www.patreon.com/posts/ad-free-video-of-88290129EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS:- Kaitlyn of Tea with Tolkien- John R- Jacob Lockham- John H- Melkor27- KGFOLLOW & SUPPORT THE TOLKIEN ROAD:PATREON » SUPERFANS!TWITTERFACEBOOKINSTAGRAMLINKS & MATHOMS:- take 10% OFF Tolkien Road merch at True Myths Press » https://truemythspress.com/discount/TENOFF (enter code TENOFF at checkout)- listen to TOLKIEN'S WORKS for FREE » https://www.audibletrial.com/everon- buy Tolkien's Requiem » https://tolkiensrequiem.com/ - buy Tolkien's Overture » https://tolkiensoverture.com/SPECIAL THANKS TO THE FOLLOWING PATRONS:- John R- Kaitlyn of Tea with Tolkien- Jacob Lockham- John H- Melkor27- KG- Emilio P- Jonathan D- Robert H- Paul D- Julia- Werty- JoeBagelMan- Richard K- Matt R- Matthew W- John W- Eugene D- Chris B- Daniel S- Seb M- Cory C- Carolyn S- Emiel K- Ms. Anonymous- Andrew T- Redhawk- Shannon S- Brian O- Zeke F- James L- Chris L- Asya V- Ish of the Hammer- Teresa C- David of Pints with Jack- Eric BAS WELL AS THOSE CELEBRATING THEIR PATRON ANNIVERSARY IN AUGUST OF 2023- Anne E- Garrett P- Mario G- Matt R- Ben D- Lauren H- William H- Henry B- Jonathan L- Austin B- Carroll WThis show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5222755/advertisement

Beren and Lúthien return. Lúthien heals the winter of Thingol. Melian cannot bear to look upon Lúthien, knowing that it is now their fate to be separated by death. Beren and Lúthien travel into Ossiriand and bear a son, Dior Aranel, the heir to Thingol. Maedhros attempts to rally the Eldar against Morgoth, but mistrust keeps them divided. The sons of Fëanor demand Thingol return the Silmaril that is rightly theirs, but he refuses. Maedhros gathers willing soldiers from Menegroth and from among Men and Dwarves. On the day of their assault, Maedhros' plans are frustrated by betrayal. 01:40 Dan reads pages 188-191 from the Silmarillion, 2nd Edition 14:31 Recap 15:53 Discussion "But now a cry went up, passing up the wind from the south from vale to vale, and Elves and Men liften their voices in wonder and joy. For unsummoned and unlooked for Turgon had opened the leaguer of Gondolin." ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Watch this Episode on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Send feedback to beforethefellowship@gmail.com Follow us as we follow Tolkien: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TWITTER⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠DISCORD⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The Rings of Power comes to Amazon, but nothing compares to the real story JRR Tolkien wrote. Is the Silmarillion his masterpiece? The Silmarillion is a book everyone should read, but it can be intimidating. Go on a journey with us. Witness the creation of Tolkien's universe, meet the villain that's bigger and badder than Sauron, and hear a love story that will leave you in tears. We are not experts, we're just fans like you. And we're having a blast going through this masterpiece of fiction, 15 minutes at a time. Grab a cup of tea or your favorite scotch (or your steering wheel!) and join us every week! --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/beforethefellowship/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/beforethefellowship/support

Fingolfin, king of the Noldor, urges the people of Beleriand to unite in battle against Morgoth, but few heed his call. Morgoth launches an all-out assault, sending rivers of fire through the northern lands and massive armies of dragons, Balrogs, and orcs, thus beginning the fourth great battle, Dagor Bragollach, “the Battle of Sudden Flame”. Fingolfin, seeing that Dorthonion is lost, flies to the very doors of Anbgand and challenges Morgoth to single combat. Three friends read and react to the greatest story you've never heard — the Silmarillion by J.R.R. Tolkien. 00:55 Greg reads pages 150-154 from the Silmarillion, 2nd Edition 19:12 Recap 20:29 Discussion "Then Fingolfin beheld (as it seemed to him) the utter ruin of the Noldor, and the defeat beyond redress of all their houses; and filled with wrath and despair he mounted upon Rochallor his great horse and rode forth alone, and none might restrain him. He passed over Dor-nu-Fauglith like a wind amid the dust, and all that beheld his onset fled in amaze, thinking that Oromë himself was come: for a great madness of rage was upon him, so that his eyes shone like the eyes of the Valar. Thus he came alone to Angband's gates, and he sounded his horn, and smote once more upon the brazen doors, and challenged Morgoth to come forth to single combat. And Morgoth came." ⁠⁠Watch this Episode on YouTube⁠⁠ Send feedback to beforethefellowship@gmail.com Follow us as we follow Tolkien: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TWITTER⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠DISCORD⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The Rings of Power comes to Amazon, but nothing compares to the real story JRR Tolkien wrote. Is the Silmarillion his masterpiece? The Silmarillion is a book everyone should read, but it can be intimidating. Go on a journey with us. Witness the creation of Tolkien's universe, meet the villain that's bigger and badder than Sauron, and hear a love story that will leave you in tears. We are not experts, we're just fans like you. And we're having a blast going through this masterpiece of fiction, 15 minutes at a time. Grab a cup of tea or your favorite scotch (or your steering wheel!) and join us every week! --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/beforethefellowship/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/beforethefellowship/support

Morgoth attacks the Haladin people. Haldad is slain, but his daughter Haleth leads the Haladin against the orcs. Three Houses of men emerge: the people of Hador Lórindol who develop the common tongue of Númenor; the Haladin; and the people of Bëor. The men grow strong and add their strength to that of the Elves. But they become intertwined with the Doom of the Noldor. Three friends read and react to the greatest story you've never heard — the Silmarillion by J.R.R. Tolkien. 00:44 Cameron reads pages 145-149 from the Silmarillion, 2nd Edition 13:10 Recap 14:24 Discussion "Haldad had twin children: Haleth his daughter, and Haldar his son; and both were valiant in the defence, for Haleth was a woman of great heart and strength. But at last Haldad was slain in a sortie against the Orcs; and Haldar, who rushed out to save his father's body from their butchery, was hewn down beside him. Then Haleth held the people together, though they were without hope; and some cast themselves in the rivers and were drowned. But seven days later, as the Orcs made their last assault and had already broken through the stockade, there came suddenly a music of trumpets, and Caranthir with his host came down from the north and drove the Orcs into the rivers." ⁠Watch this Episode on YouTube⁠ Send feedback to beforethefellowship@gmail.com Follow us as we follow Tolkien: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TWITTER⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠DISCORD⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The Rings of Power comes to Amazon, but nothing compares to the real story JRR Tolkien wrote. Is the Silmarillion his masterpiece? The Silmarillion is a book everyone should read, but it can be intimidating. Go on a journey with us. Witness the creation of Tolkien's universe, meet the villain that's bigger and badder than Sauron, and hear a love story that will leave you in tears. We are not experts, we're just fans like you. And we're having a blast going through this masterpiece of fiction, 15 minutes at a time. Grab a cup of tea or your favorite scotch (or your steering wheel!) and join us every week! --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/beforethefellowship/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/beforethefellowship/support

In this episode, we're continuing our journey through The Fall of Númenor by exploring the year SA750, when Eregion was founded by the Noldor.750 years into the Second Age, things are relatively peaceful. Númenor's benevolent influence is extending into the lands once ruled by Morgoth's minions, and there is little news of war or misery. However, with the shadow of Morgoth now a fading memory, a new power begins to stir, and Elvish craftsmen dream anew of beauty that will influence the fate of Middle-earth.WATCH THE VIDEO » https://youtu.be/eUbGHjoOeEYEXECUTIVE PRODUCERS:- Kaitlyn of Tea with Tolkien- John R- Jacob Lockham- John H- Melkor27- KGFOLLOW & SUPPORT THE TOLKIEN ROAD:PATREON » SUPERFANS!TWITTERFACEBOOKINSTAGRAMLINKS & MATHOMS:- take 10% OFF Tolkien Road merch at True Myths Press » https://truemythspress.com/discount/TENOFF (enter code TENOFF at checkout)- listen to TOLKIEN'S WORKS for FREE » https://www.audibletrial.com/everon- buy Tolkien's Requiem » https://tolkiensrequiem.com/ - buy Tolkien's Overture » https://tolkiensoverture.com/SPECIAL THANKS TO THE FOLLOWING PATRONS:- John R- Kaitlyn of Tea with Tolkien- Jacob Lockham- John H- Melkor27- KG- Emilio P- Jonathan D- Mike M- Robert H- Paul D- Julia- Werty- JoeBagelMan- Richard K- Matt R- Matthew W- Garret P- Chris K- John W- Eugene D- Chris B- Daniel S- Seb M- Shana Supreme- Ms. Anonymous- Andrew T- Redhawk- Shannon S- Brian O- Zeke F- James L- Chris L- Asya V- Ish of the Hammer- Teresa C- David of Pints with Jack- Eric BAS WELL AS THOSE CELEBRATING THEIR PATRON ANNIVERSARY IN JUNE OF 2023- Caitlin H- Teresa C- James LThis show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5222755/advertisement

Finrod Felagund meets the first men. He wins them with his beautiful music and his wisdom, and the men take him for their lord. Even to Bëor, chieftain of the men, man's history is opaque. Men too have been sundered, and there exist various groups with distinct languages. The Green Elves do not welcome men, and Thingol forbids them from entering Doriath. Men spread throughout Beleriand, dwelling amongst the Noldor. Bëor joins Felagund in Nargothrond. Some men become discontent with their partnership with the Elves. But one rises to speak. Who is it? Three friends read and react to the greatest story you've never heard — the Silmarillion by J.R.R. Tolkien. 00:41 Dan reads pages 140-145 from the Silmarillion, 2nd Edition 21:10 Recap 22:40 Discussion "But there arose one who seemed to all to be Amlach son of Imlach, speaking fell words that shook the hearts of all who heard him: 'All this is but Elvish lore, tales to beguile newcomers that are unwary. The Sea has no shore. There is no Light in the West. You have followed a fool-fire of the Elves to the end of the world! Which of you has seen the least of the Gods? Who has beheld the Dark King in the North?" Watch this Episode on YouTube Send feedback to beforethefellowship@gmail.com Follow us as we follow Tolkien: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TWITTER⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ DISCORD⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The Rings of Power comes to Amazon, but nothing compares to the real story JRR Tolkien wrote. Is the Silmarillion his masterpiece? The Silmarillion is a book everyone should read, but it can be intimidating. Go on a journey with us. Witness the creation of Tolkien's universe, meet the villain that's bigger and badder than Sauron, and hear a love story that will leave you in tears. We are not experts, we're just fans like you. And we're having a blast going through this masterpiece of fiction, 15 minutes at a time. Grab a cup of tea or your favorite scotch (or your steering wheel!) and join us every week! --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/beforethefellowship/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/beforethefellowship/support

Greg, Dan, and Cameron discuss the greatest story you've never heard — the Silmarillion by J.R.R. Tolkien (pages 125-139). 00:12 Chapter 15 and 16 Recap 03:20 Discussion 43:40 NEW Format "Ulmo came to him once again, and spoke with him. And he said: 'Now thou shalt go at last to Gondolin, Turgon; and I will maintain my power in the Vale of Sirion, and in all the waters therein, so that none shall mark thy going, nor shall any find there the hidden entrance against thy will. Longest of all the realms of the Eldalië shall Gondolin stand against Melkor. But love not too well the work of thy hands and the devices of thy heart; and remember that the true hope of the Noldor lieth in the West and cometh from the Sea.'" Send feedback to beforethefellowship@gmail.com ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠WATCH this Episode on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow us as we follow Tolkien: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TWITTER⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠DISCORD⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The Rings of Power comes to Amazon, but nothing compares to the real story JRR Tolkien wrote. Is the Silmarillion his masterpiece? The Silmarillion is a book everyone should read, but it can be intimidating. Go on a journey with us. Witness the creation of Tolkien's universe, meet the villain that's bigger and badder than Sauron, and hear a love story that will leave you in tears. We are not experts, we're just fans like you. And we're having a blast going through this masterpiece of fiction, 15 minutes at a time. Grab a cup of tea or your favorite scotch (or your steering wheel!) and join us every week! --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/beforethefellowship/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/beforethefellowship/support

Aredhel becomes weary of Gondolin and leaves. She is ensnared by Eöl, a Teleri who dwells in darkness and despises the Noldor. Eöl takes her as his wife, and they have a son, Maeglin. Mother and Son flee to Gondolin but are pursued by Eöl who is taken by guards before Turgon. Turgon gives him a fateful choice: Stay forever, or die. Three friends read and react to the greatest story you've never heard — the Silmarillion by J.R.R. Tolkien. 01:17 Greg reads pages 125-130 from the Silmarillion, 2nd Edition 29:42 Recap "In the telling of these tales there was awakened in Aredhel a desire to see her own kin again, and she marvelled that she had grown weary of the light of Gondolin, and the fountains in the sun, and the green sward of Tumladen under the windy skies of spring; moreover she was often alone in the shadows when both her son and her husband were away. Of these tales also grew the first quarrels of Maeglin and Eöl. For by no means would his mother reveal to Maeglin where Turgon dwelt, nor by what means one might come thither, and he bided his time, trusting yet to wheedle the secret from her, or perhaps to read her unguarded mind; but ere that could be done he desired to look on the Noldor and speak with the sons of Fëanor, his kin, that dwelt not far away." Send feedback to beforethefellowship@gmail.com Follow us as we follow Tolkien: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TWITTER⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠DISCORD⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The Rings of Power comes to Amazon, but nothing compares to the real story JRR Tolkien wrote. Is the Silmarillion his masterpiece? The Silmarillion is a book everyone should read, but it can be intimidating. Go on a journey with us. Witness the creation of Tolkien's universe, meet the villain that's bigger and badder than Sauron, and hear a love story that will leave you in tears. We are not experts, we're just fans like you. And we're having a blast going through this masterpiece of fiction, 15 minutes at a time. Grab a cup of tea or your favorite scotch (or your steering wheel!) and join us every week! --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/beforethefellowship/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/beforethefellowship/support

Ulmo helps Turgon build the hidden city of Gondolin. Ulmo promises to protect Gondolin but urges Turgon to remember that the curse of the Noldor stands, and that one would come to warn them of near peril. In Doriath, Galadriel recounts to Melian some of the hidden past of the Noldor, but withholds information about the Oath of Fëanor, the kinslaying, and the burning of the ships at Losgar. But the truth comes out. Three friends read and react to the greatest story you've never heard — the Silmarillion by J.R.R. Tolkien. 00:33 Cameron reads pages 125-130 from the Silmarillion, 2nd Edition 19:31 Recap "And Ulmo said: 'Now thou shalt go at last to Gondolin, Turgon; and I will maintain my power in the Vale of Sirion, and in all the waters therein, so that none shall mark thy going, nor shall any find there the hidden entrance against thy will. Longest of all the realms of the Eldalië shall Gondolin stand against Melkor. But love not too well the work of thy hands and the devices of thy heart; and remember that the true hope of the Noldor lieth in the West and cometh from the Sea." Send feedback to beforethefellowship@gmail.com Follow us as we follow Tolkien: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TWITTER⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠DISCORD⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The Rings of Power comes to Amazon, but nothing compares to the real story JRR Tolkien wrote. Is the Silmarillion his masterpiece? The Silmarillion is a book everyone should read, but it can be intimidating. Go on a journey with us. Witness the creation of Tolkien's universe, meet the villain that's bigger and badder than Sauron, and hear a love story that will leave you in tears. We are not experts, we're just fans like you. And we're having a blast going through this masterpiece of fiction, 15 minutes at a time. Grad a cup of tea or your favorite scotch (or your steering wheel!) and join us every week! --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/beforethefellowship/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/beforethefellowship/support

Morgoth controls the north of Middle-Earth from his fortress Angband, the Hells of Iron. But the Noldor settle in lands and begin gathering strength. Get ready for geography! THE MAP: http://arda-maps.org/ages/first/ Three friends read and react to the greatest story you've never heard — the Silmarillion by J.R.R. Tolkien. 02:07 Greg reads pages 111-117 from the Silmarillion, 2nd Edition 21:45 Recap "This is the fashion of the lands into which the Noldor came, in the north of the western regions of Middle-earth, in the ancient days; and here also is told of the manner in which the chieftains of the Eldar held their lands and the leaguer upon Morgoth after the Dagor Aglareb, the third battle in the Wars of Beleriand." Send feedback to beforethefellowship@gmail.com ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠WATCH this Episode on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow us as we follow Tolkien: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TWITTER⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠DISCORD⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The Rings of Power comes to Amazon, but nothing compares to the real story JRR Tolkien wrote. Is the Silmarillion his masterpiece? The Silmarillion is a book everyone should read, but it can be intimidating. Go on a journey with us. Witness the creation of Tolkien's universe, meet the villain that's bigger and badder than Sauron, and hear a love story that will leave you in tears. We are not experts, we're just fans like you. And we're having a blast going through this masterpiece of fiction, 15 minutes at a time. Grad a cup of tea or your favorite scotch (or your steering wheel!) and join us every week! --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/beforethefellowship/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/beforethefellowship/support

Thingol claims kingship over all of Beleriand but the sons of Fëanor dismiss it. Ulmo appears to Turgon and Finrod in dreams and urges them to prepare against assault from Morgoth. Soon a monster emerges. Three friends read and react to the greatest story you've never heard — the Silmarillion by J.R.R. Tolkien. 00:34 Cameron reads pages 111-117 from the Silmarillion, 2nd Edition 21:06 Recap "Now Morgoth, believing the report of his spies that the lords of the Noldor were wandering abroad with little thought of war, made trial of the strength and watchfulness of his enemies. Once more, with little warning, his might was stirred, and suddenly there were earthquakes in the north, and fire came from fissures in the earth, and the Iron Mountains vomited flame; and Orcs poured forth across the plain of Ard-galen." Send feedback to beforethefellowship@gmail.com ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠WATCH this Episode on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow us as we follow Tolkien: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TWITTER⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠DISCORD⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The Rings of Power comes to Amazon, but nothing compares to the real story JRR Tolkien wrote. Is the Silmarillion his masterpiece? The Silmarillion is a book everyone should read, but it can be intimidating. Go on a journey with us. Witness the creation of Tolkien's universe, meet the villain that's bigger and badder than Sauron, and hear a love story that will leave you in tears. We are not experts, we're just fans like you. And we're having a blast going through this masterpiece of fiction, 15 minutes at a time. Grad a cup of tea or your favorite scotch (or your steering wheel!) and join us every week! --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/beforethefellowship/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/beforethefellowship/support

Join us for an in-depth discussion as we explore "Of the Fifth Battle: Nirnaeth Arnoediad", the 20th chapter of JRR Tolkien's The Silmarillion. Learn about the cataclysmic battle that brings the Noldor to ruin, and sets in motion the climax of the First Age!WATCH THE VIDEO» https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QaFHbuVxdQEXECUTIVE PRODUCERS » Kaitlyn of Tea with Tolkien, John R, Jacob Lockham, John H, Scotchy BoboChapter 20 tells of the fifth great battle of Beleriand, the most fateful and cataclysmic yet, in which the Noldor seek to put an end to Morgoth's reign of terror once and for all!CONTENTS- Beren and Lúthien - Prologue That Is An Epilogue » 3:50- Maedhros' Plot » 8:00- The Day of Battle » 15:30- Unnumbered Tears / Nirnaeth Arnoediad / Fingon vs. Gothmog » 22:00- Turgon, Húrin, Huor (and Maeglin) » 25:50- Aftermath » 30:15- Haiku » 39:00LINKS & MATHOMS- listen to The Silmarillion for FREE » https://www.audibletrial.com/everon- buy The Silmarillion » https://amzn.to/3FOKAY5- buy The Atlas of Middle-earth » https://amzn.to/3KLOxQa- buy Tolkien's Requiem » https://tolkiensrequiem.com/- buy Tolkien's Overture » https://tolkiensoverture.com/- Timeline of Arda » https://lotr.fandom.com/wiki/Timeline_of_Arda- Interactive Map of Beleriand » http://lotrproject.com/map/beleriand/- Episode 52 » Silmarillion 2015 » Ch 20 » Of the Fifth Battle » Nirnaeth Arnoediad » https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9BqWy0jM84 SPECIAL THANKS:- John R- Kaitlyn of Tea with Tolkien- Jacob Lockham- John H- Scotchy Bobo- Ms. Anonymous- Andrew T- Redhawk- Shannon S- Brian O- Emilio P- Zeke F- James A- James L- Chris L- Chuck F- Asya V- Ish of the Hammer- Teresa C- David of Pints with Jack- Jonathan D- Eric B- Johanna T- Mike M- Robert H- Paul D- Julia- Werty- Matthew W- JoeBagelMan- Chris K- Jacob S- Dawn JAS WELL AS THOSE CELEBRATING THEIR PATRON ANNIVERSARY THIS MONTH (JULY OF 2022) » Werty, Matthew W, Veit N, David of Pints with Jack, Chris L