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The Wilderness E5 — After 40 years of wandering in the wilderness, Moses and the second generation of Israelites stand at the border of the promised land. What does Moses say about the purpose of their time in the wilderness, and what do they need to remember about it when they're in the garden land? In this episode, Jon and Tim look at Deuteronomy 8 and the hard lessons of the wilderness that can help the people flourish in the promised land.CHAPTERSSummary and Recap of Theme (0:00-11:26)Why Adam and Eve Can't Stay in the Garden (11:26-23:07)The Purpose of 40 Years in the Wilderness (23:07-41:58)The Wilderness Is the Truth (41:58-1:05:28)OFFICIAL EPISODE TRANSCRIPTView this episode's official transcript.REFERENCED RESOURCESIn chapter 2, Jon and Tim discuss the Divine Council and Genesis 3:22. For more on this topic, check out our God and Spiritual Beings series.A Severe Mercy by Sheldon VanaukenIn chapter 3, Tim references our Deuteronomy Scroll series.You can view annotations for this episode—plus our entire library of videos, podcasts, articles, and classes—in the BibleProject app, available for Android and iOS.Check out Tim's extensive collection of recommended books here.SHOW MUSIC“Coffee Under The Palm Tree” by Lofi Sunday, Zairis TéJion“Gentle Lamb” by Lofi Sunday, Yoni Charis“Pleasant Places” by Lofi Sunday, Yoni CharisBibleProject theme song by TENTSSHOW CREDITSProduction of today's episode is by Lindsey Ponder, producer, and Cooper Peltz, managing producer. Tyler Bailey is our supervising engineer, who also edited today's episode and provided the sound design and mix. JB Witty does our show notes, and Hannah Woo provides the annotations for our app. Our host and creative director is Jon Collins, and our lead scholar is Tim Mackie. Powered and distributed by Simplecast. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
From Genesis to Revelation, the Bible whispers of a cosmic battle raging just beyond human sight—a spiritual war that will soon erupt into the physical realm. Angels Eternal: War of the Princes pulls back the curtain on God's Divine Council, revealing the hierarchy of angels, archangels, seraphim, cherubim, and the mysterious nachash—and exposing their ancient enemies: Satan, Semjaza, Azazel, and the demonic legions born from rebellion.
In this channeled message, Sara Landon and the Divine Council reveal what's really happening beyond 2025 — and how this next phase of human evolution will be powered by consciousness, self-realization, and the frequency of love. We explore the energetic architecture of your reality, why your energy is your greatest currency, and how divine prosperity replaces outdated paradigms. If you're navigating spiritual awakening, questioning your relationship with money, or seeking higher timelines, this conversation delivers the guidance and activation you've been waiting for.Furthermore, in this interview you'll be reminded that you are the most powerful being in the universe — here to live fully, love unconditionally, and co-create a New Earth. From the embodiment of self-love to the rise of compassionate leadership, this episode is a roadmap for those ready to step into their mission of elevating consciousness through love. Whether you're on your path of transformation or simply feeling the call to awaken, this is more than a message — it's a vibrational shift.Sara Landon is a globally celebrated transformational leader, spiritual teacher, and channeler of The Council, a collective of ascended master beings dedicated to guiding humanity through this time of great awakening. Through her profound teachings on consciousness, self-realization, and divine prosperity, Sara empowers individuals to access their higher selves, embody unconditional love, and live in alignment with their soul's purpose. Her work serves as a bridge to higher timelines and expanded states of awareness, offering life-changing guidance for those ready to unlock their true power and co-create a new reality grounded in love and transformation.___________________BOOKS MENTIONED:✦ The 15 Success Principles for Self-Realization: Channeled Wisdom to Create Your Reality and Expand Your Perspective |
What if the chaos, confusion, and overwhelm you feel right now are actually signs that you're stepping into a whole new level of creation? In this profound episode, Michael Sandler welcomes back transformational leader and channel Sara Landon, and the Council, for an extraordinary conversation about the energies of Fall 2025, the power of alignment, and why choosing what you do want is the key to everything. Together, Michael and Sara explore why so many people feel stuck, how to move from “I don't want” into “I choose,” and the miraculous shift that happens when you live from the vibration of “Wow.” The Council comes through with powerful teachings and activations, reminding us that alignment is everything, choice is freedom, and love is always underneath it all. Key Topics: Why the world feels so overwhelming right now, and what it really means. How to stop choosing what you don't want and align with what you do. The surprising truth about freedom and sovereignty in this new era. A daily practice for shifting your energy through conscious choice. Why “Wow” is the vibration that opens you to miracles and new realities. This episode is both a revelation and an activation, guiding you to step fully into your power, choose love over fear, and create a life beyond your wildest dreams. Join the Inspire Nation Soul Family!
Ali Siadatan returns with his most controversial theory yet: that Genesis contains not one, but two distinct creation narratives involving different types of humans. Drawing from Hebrew linguistics and ancient Near Eastern context, Ali argues that the language of Genesis reveals that the word "Elohim" (traditionally translated as "God") is Divine Council language. In this thought-provoking episode, Ali presents his theory that the creation story involves two distinct events: first, the Elohim (divine council) creating humans in their collective image who roam the earth, followed by Yahweh Elohim creating Adam specifically for Eden's garden. This interpretation attempts to solve puzzles like where Cain's wife came from, why he feared other people, and how agriculture suddenly appeared in the archaeological record.From his research into ancient gods and civilizations to his groundbreaking documentary linking UFOs to biblical narratives, Ali's journey challenges both literalist and progressive interpretations of Scripture. Whether you agree with his conclusions or not, his linguistic analysis and pattern recognition raise fascinating questions about what the text actually says versus what tradition teaches. This Episode is Sponsored By: https://homechef.com/blurry — Get 50% off, plus free shipping on your first box and free dessert for life! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Reformed Brotherhood | Sound Doctrine, Systematic Theology, and Brotherly Love
In this solo episode of The Reformed Brotherhood, Tony Arsenal tackles the concerning theological trend of "Divine Council Theology" and its recent resurgence within Reformed circles. He offers a critical analysis of Michael Heiser's influential work and its problematic popularization by Reformed figures like Doug Van Dorn and John Moffitt. Tony demonstrates how redefining the biblical term "Elohim" to include both God and created spiritual beings in the same ontological category fundamentally undermines the creator-creature distinction essential to Christian orthodoxy. Through careful examination of systematic theological categories, communicable and incommunicable attributes, and implications for Christology, he reveals why this seemingly academic redefinition poses serious threats to biblical monotheism and classical Reformed theology. Key Takeaways Divine Council Theology, popularized by Michael Heiser and now being promoted within Reformed circles, attempts to redefine "Elohim" as a functional category that includes both God and created spiritual beings. This theological trend commits an etymological fallacy by redefining the predominant usage of "Elohim" (which refers to the God of Israel in ~2,300 of 2,600 occurrences) based on minority usages. The approach dangerously blurs the fundamental creator-creature distinction that is essential to Christian monotheism and orthodox theology. Proponents incorrectly classify divine power as a communicable attribute rather than recognizing omnipotence as an incommunicable attribute that cannot be shared with creatures. The theological system makes problematic analogies to the incarnation, showing a confused understanding of the hypostatic union and potentially opening the door to Arian implications. This theology represents a concerning return to concepts the early church fathers fought against when confronting pagan Greek thought, rather than a retrieval of biblical teaching. Departing from the "pattern of sound words" handed down through church history in favor of novel interpretations should raise significant warning flags. Key Concepts The Creator-Creature Distinction The most fundamental division in Christian theology is not between spiritual and material beings, but between the uncreated Creator and everything else that exists. Divine Council Theology dangerously undermines this distinction by placing God and created spiritual beings in the same category of "Elohim." While proponents acknowledge God as the uncreated Creator, they nevertheless insist on categorizing Him alongside angels, demons, and other spiritual entities based on shared attributes of power or function. This categorization system parallels pagan worldviews more than biblical theology, where God exists in a class of one. By defining "Elohim" as a functional category related to spiritual power rather than an ontological one, this approach inadvertently returns to a hierarchical view of spiritual beings with God merely at the "top of the totem pole" rather than in an entirely separate and unique category of existence. This framework subtly but significantly undermines biblical monotheism by suggesting God shares a fundamental nature with His creatures. Communicable vs. Incommunicable Attributes Divine Council Theology mishandles the traditional theological distinction between God's communicable and incommunicable attributes. In classical Reformed theology, communicable attributes (like love or wisdom) can be shared with creatures in a limited, analogical way, while incommunicable attributes (like omnipotence, eternality, or divine simplicity) belong exclusively to God and cannot be shared without making the creature into God. Proponents of Divine Council Theology erroneously suggest that the power denoted by "Elohim" is a communicable attribute that God shares with spiritual beings, rather than recognizing omnipotence as properly incommunicable. This misclassification creates theological incoherence: if God could truly share His omnipotence with creatures, those creatures would effectively become equal to God in power, creating the logical impossibility of multiple omnipotent beings. This confusion of categories demonstrates how this theological system fails to maintain proper distinctions that are essential for preserving the uniqueness and transcendence of God in Christian theology. Memorable Quotes "Christianity and biblical Judaism—the primary distinction is not between spiritual and matter... The primary distinction when we're talking about the most absolute line is the distinction between the uncreated creator and his creation." "Rather than rely on the safe time-tested words and concepts that have been proven and validated, and attacked and defended and have been victorious for hundreds and thousands of years... Moffitt and Van Dorn think it is smarter and safer to depart from the pattern of sound words rather than to keep the pattern of sound words because they think that they are able to look at the Bible the way basically no one ever has in the 2000 years of the church and find something they haven't." "These teachings are pagan. This is talking about returning to a world populated by spiritual beings, and God is kind of just on the highest part of the totem pole... We're just returning to something that the early church fought hard to get rid of when they came out of their pagan culture." Resources Mentioned Reformed Arsenal article series on Divine Council Theology Full Transcript [00:00:24] Introduction and Episode Setup Tony Arsenal: Welcome to episode 461 of the Reformed Brotherhood. I am Tony, and today it's just me. Hey, brothers and sisters. We had a little bit of a scheduling conflict this week, so Jesse is taking the week off and uh, it gives me an opportunity to talk about something that I've been doing a little bit of research on. [00:00:47] Affirmations and Denials Tony Arsenal: Hopefully the listener has noticed that Jesse and I have been trying to keep our affirmations and denials a little bit tighter so we can get into the meat of the episode a little bit quicker. But occasionally we do run into a denial, usually a denial, but we run into a denial that, uh, we often say this could be an episode of its own. And so today is one of those episodes. So I'm not gonna give you my normal affirmation or denial. I'm just gonna jump into it. Now this is gonna be a little bit off the cuff. I've been doing some research, so I may not have as much of the receipts as the kids say, um, as I normally would. But I am writing a series of articles on this issue over@reformedarsenal.com. I'll make sure to put the link to the first article in the show notes. All of the receipts are there, all of the timestamps for the podcast episodes that I'll be. Discussing your critiquing. Are there citations for research work that I'm doing? All that stuff is there. So if you're interested in digging into the meet and you're the kind of guy who, or girl who likes to nerd out in the footnotes, then head over to uh reformed arsenal.com. You'll find the series pretty quick. [00:01:56] Introduction to Divine Counsel Theology Tony Arsenal: What I wanted to talk about today, and I'm glad we have kind of a whole episode, uh, to talk about it, is a movement, uh, that has some foothold in reformed theology. Uh, it's not new, uh, it didn't start in reformed theology, but for some reason, uh, those who are within our orbits tend to be a little bit enamored by this kind of theology. I'm not exactly sure why. [00:02:19] Michael Heiser's Influence Tony Arsenal: This theology is often called Divine Counsel Theology, and it was really, um, you know, it's not entirely new even with, with this figure, but it was really made popular and sort of, um, spread about and made accessible by the late Michael Heiser. Um, part of this is because he was just a very winsome, uh, guy. He took. Sort of highfalutin academic concepts and was able to bring them down to, uh, to an understandable level, including things like ancient near Eastern context, biblical, you know, ex of Jesus Hebrew language, other ancient near Eastern languages, which of course, that's that kind of stuff is what this podcast is all about, taking difficult, sometimes technical concepts. Talking about them, translating them into kind of the language that everybody else speaks. So that project was fine. The issue is the direction that he goes with a lot of the theology. So Michael Heiser writes a book called Unseen Realms, which is seen as kind of a retrieval of the supernatural mindset and worldview of the Bible. Uh, there's a lot to be commended about that, uh, enterprise, about that intention. I do agree with part of what he has to say when he says that we've lost a lot of the supernatural context of the Bible. Um, but I think where he goes with it is a direction that we really ought not go and we'll dig into it. [00:03:43] Critique of Reformed Fringe Podcast Tony Arsenal: The reason this is coming up now is because recently there's been a series of articles and podcasts put out by a show called The Reformed Fringe. Uh, some if you're in the Telegram chat, which you can join at, uh, t Me slash Reformed Brotherhood. You've already seen some of this stuff. We've already talked about it a little bit. But the Reformed Fringe is a podcast that sort of tries to fill a space that's something like Haunted Cosmos, which we've talked about before. Um, fills sort of looking at the weird fringe kind of things in the world. Ghosts, paranormal activity, trying to explain it through a biblical, uh, lens or worldview. Again, that's a commendable. Effort. There are strange things that happen in our world that are not easily explainable or at all explainable by natural, uh, naturalistic means. And so coming to those things with the Bible as our, uh, rubric to instruct us on how the world works is a commendable thing. But again, this project, which is by and large, um, and we'll get into maybe, but by and large is just an extension of, um, Heiser's project really goes in directions that cause all sorts of problems down the road. So the podcast is, uh, run by a guy named Doug Van Dorn, who most of the audience probably hasn't heard of. I have had run-ins with Doug over the years. Um, the last time I ran into him actually was revolving around similar kinds of issues that I'm gonna be calling out today. Um, and it, it ended up with him kind of having to depart from the reform pub, uh, maybe to put it a little bit politely and, um. You know, he has, he has taken, he's theology, which was not explicitly reformed. Heiser was not a reformed guy. He had no claims to be a Calvinist in many ways. Uh, he was sort of anticon confessional in, in that he opposed not the idea of a faith statement, but he sort of purported to come to the Bible with no biases, with no tradition. He wanted to approach what he called the Naked Bible. That was actually the name of his podcast before he died a few years ago. And so what Doug Van Dorn is, has done who, uh, Doug is a claims to be a 1689 Reformed Baptist. He's a pastor in Colorado, I believe. Um, he has tried to take this divine counsel theology and bring it into the reformed world. So he comes at it with a, a slightly different angle, but for the most part, his conclusions are the same. And in many cases he just straight up steals ER's work and doesn't cite it, doesn't do much to, uh, articulate that this is not his original research. Um, so he's taken that and he's trying to bring it into the reformed world. And Heiser himself was actually quite influential when I was a, an admin in the reform pub. We would run into lots of, lots of young reformed guys. Who were really enamored with this and they really saw, he's project as sort of a return to a pure form of exo Jesus that really got at what the Hebrew was saying. And it tickled, I think, kind of an intellectual, uh, an intellectual itch that a lot of those guys had combined with sort of this desire for the new and novel, um, which is in itself can be pretty dangerous. To sort of make things a little bit more pressing, Heiser has teamed up with John Moffitt, who many of our listeners may know. Uh, he's one of the co-hosts and founders of the podcast, Theo Cast, uh, which otherwise is a perfectly fine podcast. Um, he's also a 1680 or claims to be a 1689 Reform Baptist. He's a pastor. Um, their podcast is sort of what you would get if you had, uh, and I don't mean this to be pejorative, although maybe it is a little pejorative. Theo cast is what you would get if you took r Scott Clark. Uh, you made it much less intellectual and careful, and then made it Baptist. And what I mean by that is Scott's whole project. In large part is to recover and to emphasize the law gospel distinction. Theo cast has taken that and sort of cranked it up to 11. Uh, and they have um, they have sort of moved away from a lot of the classical reform distinctions of the law itself, so they don't full on deny the third use of the law. But in practice they would say that, um, good works is no kind of evidence whatsoever for your, um, for your faith. It's no kind of evidence of your, your salvation, which of course are confessions themselves. Um, say that there is a kind of evidential value to assessing our good works within certain reason and con. So the show is otherwise orthodox. You know, I I, I recall hearing episodes where they were refuting things like EFS, um, but because of that, Moffitt brings with him sort of an air of credibility and an error in orthodoxy that, um, the show itself probably hasn't merited. If Doug just recorded, pushed, play and put it on the. I don't think there would've been too much, uh, too much of a following. He would've probably, you know, grabbed a couple people who heard it and thought it was interesting. But because Moffitt has such a following on Theo cast, he brings with him a large audience, and that makes it particularly dangerous because his name attached to it makes it more widespread. It makes it feel like it's safer. And so I think a lot of people, uh, assume that what he's saying is orthodox and good. And I think what we'll find out is, is that it's not. So I think that's enough ProGo. [00:09:10] Elohim and Its Implications Tony Arsenal: I'm gonna go ahead and, and jump into explaining kind of what the theology that we're talking about is and, and what the problems are. So this all started kicked off, uh, with a series of podcast episodes and the first episode, and again, I don't have the specific titles here. I'll put a bibliography in the show notes on this one just so you have links to all the relevant episodes. Um, this all kind of kicked off with a podcast episode called something like The History of the Word God, or something like that. And, um, basically what Moffitt and Van Dorn want to do is they wanna look at the word Elohim in the Bible, which of course is a plural noun. Uh, in Hebrew, the, the suffix, just like in English, we might add an S or an ES, um, to a word to make it plural. Or in Greek, it's usually, if it's a masculine, uh, noun, it's, it's an oi or an omicron iota that sort of always sound at the end. Um, or when we, we talk about Latin, you have, you have like, um, you add the I at the end, so we say octopi instead of octopuses or something like that. Cacti instead of cactus. Although both of those are kind of pig Latins, um, in, in Hebrew for, uh, for masculine nouns. The suffix that you add to make it plural, is that eam sound. It's a, it's an Im if you transliterate in English. So the word Elohim is a plural of the original noun El which is a proper name for a eury deity. But it came to just be the singular word for, for God. Um, and, and in non-biblical language, we would say in a God. Um, and we do see in English, there are in, in Hebrew, in the Bible, there are places where we see the singular of this. It's kind of an older form, so it doesn't show up as much. Um, but by and large when we see the word Elohim in the Bible. Something like, uh, outta 2,600 references or more than 2,600 references in the Bible. Um, the word Elohim is associated with a single, a singular noun, and it only refers to the God of Israel. What Moffitt and Van Dorn want to do is they want to take this word and they wanna define it based on the abnormal. Uh, use of it. So the vast minority, minority of cases in the Old Testament, the word Elohim refers to the gods or to a non, like what we might say is lower G God, either like the God, Baal, or some sort of collective reference to the gods, the gods of the nation, or something like that. They wanna take the fact that there is this variation in the way the word is used and sort of radically redefine how the Bible uses it. And this, this is what I call and what a lot of people would call an etymological fallacy. So what they're doing is, instead of, uh, looking at the word and defining it based on how it's used in an, in an overwhelming fashion, they're looking at sort of the etymology of the word. And then they're using the fact that there are, uh, some pretty Dr. Dramatically minority cases where the word is used in a different way and they wanna redefine it and say, in, in all or most cases in the Bible actually. This is what the word means. So they look at the word L, which from its root has something to do probably with the, with the word for power or something like that. Um, they wanna look at it. And, you know, if you read someone like Vos in Reformed dogmatics in his volume one, he talks about how when we see the name Elohim for God, it denotes or, or refers to his sort of power, his omnipotence, which is all good and fine, just like we would say Yahweh. Uh, as a proper name refers to God sort of in his covenant role. It's his covenant name, his, his intimate, familial name that he shares, uh, with his people or he reveals to his people. Elohim is a more abstract name and it refers to God's power. Usually we see it in relation to his cre creation. So in Genesis one, um, when it's God created, it's Elohim created, which is also important and relevant for, for later. So what they wanna do is they want to say that Elohim actually. What Act Elohim actually means is it's a reference to a class of beings, spiritual beings, and that that it means sort of any spiritual being that has some type of supernatural power or enhanced power, some sort of spiritual power. They do this by saying that the noun is not an ontological noun, it's actually like a noun of function. Um, so like we would say a, a good example in English would be a painter that's a noun of function. It's a title of function. It any person could be called a painter if they engage in the verbal action of painting. And so what they're saying is that any being that engages in the action of having power. Is, uh, is an Elohim. And so that would include, in narrating at least, it would include angels, demons. Uh, I, you know, I don't know that they've said this explicitly, but I, I think Heiser would've included things like ghosts, disembodied spirits, um, humans in sort of the intermediary state might be considered Elohim humans in the, in the, um, this. Life are called Elohim, uh, in some instances. So, so this is where the Divine Council theology comes from, and that comes from Psalm 82, I think, where there's this council of Elohim that, that Yahweh seems to be speaking to and deliberating with. Or you look at Joe, where the sons of God come and they sort of pulled court in God's heavenly presence. So he would say those are examples where the, the collected Elohim. God being one of the Elohim are somehow gathered in this heavenly divine counsel. Now what this does is just devastating to Christian theology is it takes God who exists in a class of one. The, the, the God of the universe is, is the only uncreated entity in all of of the world. And so when we start to talk, and this is ironic, when we start to talk about the ways to divide up the world, the ancient world, the, the pagan world tended to divide the world between, um. Between spiritual and material. So think of g Gnostics where matter was bad and spirit was good. Or even think of something like, um, the Greek pantheons, the Greek, um, Greek religion, like ancient Greek mythology. You have sort of the spirits and the spiritual world and the gods inhabit a spiritual, have a spiritual existence for the most part. And then you have the physical world where kind of people live, uh, at least while they're alive. Christianity and, and Judaism, at least Biblical Judaism. On the other hand, the, the primary distinction is not between spiritual and matter. There is of course that distinction. There are humans, which are spiritual and material. There are animals which are entirely material, and then there are angels which are entirely spiritual. And so we would say that God is spiritual. So that is a distinction in the world. But the primary distinction when we're talking about the most absolute line is the distinction between the, the uncreated creator and his creation. So what Moffitt, Moffitt and Van Dorn do is instead of observing that biblical distinction, which really all of Christian theology and Christian monotheism rests on, they wanna say that instead, the distinction is between the. Um, is between the Elohim as the sort of spiritual beings and then sort of everything else of the created world, and so they wouldn't deny that God, that Yahweh is. The uncreated creator of all things, but they would say he's an uncreated Elohim and that there is a class of created Elohim. So I don't, I don't think you have to go too far down this road to see what this does. It puts God on the same level as his creatures in at least one way. Um, and I think we'll find out later, uh, as we talk through this, actually it does it in a couple ways that are really, uh, really can be problematic as we go. And so, uh, just let me be clear if all that, if all that Moffitt and Van Dorn were saying, if, if all they said was, um, we can use the word Elohim to describe any creature. Or God that doesn't have a body. Elohim is a synonym for the word spirit. Um, that wouldn't be the wisest way to speak, I don't think. It wouldn't be the, the most, um, felicitous or safe way to talk about the distinction. But it wouldn't be controversial. There'd be nothing wrong with that. It'd just be using a different word. It'd be like if I said, well, instead of the word spirit, I'm gonna use the word bibly bop, you know? So we have. We have God who is bibly bop, and we have the angels who is bibly bop, and humans are biblio bop. And also material, again, not the safest way to talk. There's no reason to use that alternative language when the Bible gives us perfectly legitimate language. Um, but it wouldn't be a problem. But Moffit and Van Dorn go. Way past this and maybe they don't realize it. I've asked them on Twitter, I asked them to clarify. I didn't get a response. So if they are hearing this, which maybe they will, maybe they won't. If they're hearing this, I would really love to get some clarification on some of these questions because I would love nothing more than to be able to say that this was all a big misunderstanding and that actually all they're saying is that there is this spiritual existence. That, um, we can put all things that are spirit without a body or spirit with a body. We can put all those in the same category and call that category Elohim. Again, I don't think that's safe, but if that's all they were doing, that would be fine. But we see in their episodes, and I'm gonna try to grab some quotes, um, from, from some of the articles I've written. But again, go read the articles because this goes way more in depth. It's got timestamps of it. It's got links to their episodes. Don't take my word for it. Go listen to their. Words and, and check, you know, check my math on this. But what they do is they actually start to, in, in an attempt to justify why it's okay to put God in the same category as his creatures. Um, and in at least one way, they start to make some weird statements that have a lot of systematic theology, um, implications that are, are just really, really risky. So, for example, one of the ways that they try to kind of explain this, I'm gonna pull, pull the article that I wrote up here. So, great podcasting. [00:19:34] Communicable vs. Incommunicable Attributes Tony Arsenal: Um, one of the ways they start to try to do this is again, they, they wanna say they use this distinction between incommunicable and communicable attributes, right? So in, in Christian theology, classically speaking, a communicable attribute of God is an attribute that he shares or could share with. A creature and primarily we're talking, you know, we're talking about attributes that he shares with his image bearers. So something like, um, love. Love is a communicable attribute. Our love is different than God's love, but when we say love, we're talking about the same basic category of things God loves differently than we do. But love and in a human sense, and love in a, in a divine sense, are still talking about the same thing. There's a point of contact there. Um, an incommunicable attribute would be something like, um, something like eternity. Right. Eternity is not just an extended infinite sequence of time. If it was, he could share that with us. Um, but eternity or infinity is an entirely different way of existing than a creature could ever, could ever exist in divine Simplicity is another example. Um, God could not make humans simple because simplicity entails all sorts of things like infinity. Um, eternality. Um, you know, omnipresence, omni, potent, all of these things are entailed by simplicity. So God could not make a creature infinite because in order for it to be infinite, it would have to be God. Uh, God could not make a creature simple, uh, in the, in the sense of no composition of parts. Uh, because that would mean that that creature is actually God and has no composer. So, so those would be the classic, uh, incommunicable attributes and omnipotence. Is considered, although it's a little bit weird, it sort of crosses the line in some ways. But omnipotence is considered. An incommunicable attribute. God cannot share his omnipotence with a creature because you can't have two omnipotence. Um, if you have two omnipotence, then those two omnipotence cancel each other out in some sense. If God, and, and, and he has a will, God wills one thing, and then I as a creature, if he shared his omnipotence with me, somehow willed a different thing, then we would no longer be, neither of us would be omnipotent. Where this goes sideways with Moffitt and Vandorn is rather than respect omnipotence as a an incommunicable attribute, they say that the attribute or the word Elohim denotes power or might, and that is a communicable attribute. So God does give us a certain level of power. He allows us a certain level of agency. He grants that to us. Again, I'm not even sure that we would call that an an. A communicable attribute. Um, but in a sense, I guess it is. And so they say here, um, Elohim does not mean omnipotent. It means power. It's not an incommunicable attribute. It's a communicable attribute that all kinds of entities could possess. So they're saying that the word, um, the word Elohim, uh, in the Bible denotes that a. A, an entity possesses a certain kind of power or acts in a certain role of executing a certain kind of power. And that doesn't mean omnipotence. It means it means potence. It means some sort of power. And so that that wielding power attribute that. Uh, being a, being that wields power, that attribute, whatever we want to call it, however we want to phrase it, that is a communicable attribute that God shares. He communicates that attribute to all other beings in the class of Elohim. Now, let's just back that up for a second. Um, this still would mean that God has to be the creator and they don't deny that, but it would still mean that God, prior to creation. Was an Elohim in a category of one, and then somehow he created a class and because he's extended. This attribute of wielding power, say power wielder, to try to make it actually more of an attribute. He's extended this attribute of power wielder to uncreate or to created angels, demons, human spirits, whatever other spiritual entities there might be. They would bring in things like principalities, powers, they have a whole, in other, other contexts, they'll talk about this whole different bifurcation of types of spiritual beings that I think is a little speculative, but not a big deal. He extends this power wielder attribute to these created categories. And instead of this now creating a separate category of power wields who are not God, it now is uh, he expands this category of one to now include all sorts of other things, which again, as you can, you can imagine, just runs into problems. And so the, again, this, this word Elohim appears over 2,600 times, and of these instances, 230 of them refer to the God of Israel. So the idea that that. This word is not used specifically as a reference to the God of Israel, or should not be thought of as uniquely titling or almost exclusively titling God. The God of Israel just doesn't really match the data, but it's also just really poor Exogenic method. So rather than take the predominant usage and look at the context. Understanding that the predominant usage is the predominant usage. Instead, we're gonna go back and say, well, these, these minority, these 300 or so cases outside, and not even all 300 of them are used the same way, but these 300 or so cases of them not referring to the God of Israel, we're gonna use that to redefine the word. Its entirety. It's just poor. It's just poor scholarship. It's overly speculative. Um, I haven't read much of. He's work on this in the primary sources. Um, I, I would venture a guess that Heiser makes a much more robust argument than this. And this is part of the problem. When you take an already speculative, already dangerous theology and you try to pop popularize it when you just don't have the same chops that he did, uh, you end up really making some crass, simplistic arguments that just make you look a little silly. To think we can take 200 or 2,600 instances and redefine 2 20, 300 of them. By the way, it's used 300 of the times Just doesn't make any sense. So it again, if, if all we are saying is that God is spiritual and angels are spiritual and so there is some point of affinity between the two, then that would be okay. That wouldn't be a problem. Again, there's some risk in using the word Elohim in that. Sort of placeholder, but, um, that would be a semantic discussion. What they're doing is far, far deeper and far more problematic than that. [00:26:30] Systematic Theology Concerns Tony Arsenal: And so the, the other thing they do, um, that I think is really dangerous, and I don't have all of the, I haven't finished this article yet, so I don't have all of the timestamps in front of me to, to, to get there, is in attempting to justify this Moffitt, uh, in, in one of the other episodes, he turns to the incarnation as a sort of model. And so he'll say that, you know, the son of God is divine, but he's also human. And the fact that he's human, uh, doesn't therefore mean he's not also uniquely the uncreated creator. I would assume everyone hearing this who listens to this show, uh, which has done many, many episodes on Christology, it's one of our pet projects, is just throwing their listening device across the room because what Moffitt seems to miss entirely is that Christ is not, the sun is not in the category of human. Uh, sort of in a simple sense, Christ is in the category of human because he assumes to himself a second created nature. So what, what the, the analogy he's trying to draw is if the sun can be human without ceasing to be the unique one, uncreated God, then so also can, the whole trinity, I guess, can also be Elohim without ceasing to be the one uncreated God. He even goes so far as to say that there is Uncreated Elohim, and then there is created Elohim, and they're all in the category of Elohim, but because there's this commonality, we should still consider that class. And he draws that distinction or he draws the implication that. Um, there's somehow uncreated humanity in Christ, which is a whole different ball of worms that we won't get into. But in, in drawing this analogy, he sort of shows that he really doesn't understand the hypostatic union. He doesn't understand the incarnation, or if he does, he's really making a poor comparison because in the hypostatic union it's not as though the son, uh, as divinity, the son, as the one uncreated. God simply adds to himself in a raw sense and merges. Uh, he doesn't become part of the category of human without taking on a second nature. And then now we are even getting into some inconsistencies. Is human an ontological category or is that a category of function? Are there other categories of function, uh, other creatures in existence that the category of function human might fit? So I think you can see that this just is not a self consistent. Um, a self-consistent system and it leads to all these weird implications. Um, you know, and then they'll even go on to talk about how the Son is the angel of the Lord. I'm not gonna get into a lot of it here, and I agree with that thesis that the, when we see the angel of the Lord in the Old Testament, in the vast majority of cases, we're probably seeing a pre-incarnate appearance of, um, of the second person of the Trinity. They go so far as to say that this is actually a sort of. Incarnation or a sort of hypostatic union of the Elohim nature. So they, they, they draw this distinction, or they draw this parallel between created Elohim and Uncreated Elohim, and they, they argue again, I think implicitly, but in some instances it's almost, it's almost explicit that the son in, in being the angel of the Lord, takes on the uncreated or takes on the created Elohim nature. It's, it's really, um, it's really problematic. So now we have the son who is, uh, sort of hypostatic united to the unc, to the created Elohim nature, and then also is hypostatic united to the human nature. Um, it, it really just gets messy and it confuses categories in a way that is not helpful. And if I'm just being frank, a lot of the younger reformed guys. And when I say younger, I'm talking, maybe I'm projecting back to when I was a younger reform guy, um, I'm talking about people in their mid twenties to maybe early thirties, right? The, the people who were maybe the second or third generation of the young restless reform guys, they didn't necessarily learn, uh, ref young restless reform theology directly from RC Sproul. You know, they weren't the first generation. Um, and, and maybe their pastors weren't the first generation, but, but maybe their pastors were the second generation and now they're learning it from their pastors. So you might think of 'em as like the third generation, to be frank, they don't usually have a great grasp on some of these systematic theology categories as part of why. Jesse and I do this podcast, and part of why we cover the same topic over and over again, part of why we're gonna go through this parable series. But when we're done, we're probably gonna go back and start over with systematic theology. We're gonna go back, we're gonna go through another confession. That's why we spent, we spent like six years going through systematic theology. And almost immediately went back to the Scott's confession and did most of it all over again because these truths need to be taught again and again and again. This is part of what Jude is talking about when he says, we have to contend for the faith. It's not just fighting with people online. It's not just polemics or apologetics. It is reteaching and handing down the faith that was once delivered to the saints. Again, and this is perhaps, and this is the last point I'll make. This is perhaps the most. Telling a reason we should be weary and suspicious of this theology. Paul, in, uh, one of the letters to Timothy, second Timothy, maybe he says, follow the pattern of the sound words that you heard from me. He's not talking about the scriptures. He doesn't say follow the sound words that I'm writing to you. He's referring to a body of doctrine sometimes. The Bible calls it the faith, right? Jude says to contend for the faith. There's this body of doctrine that is the teaching of the apostles, and it is encapsulated in this sort of set pattern of words. Erin A is called it the rule of faith or the regular fide, right? This is where we get things like the Nicean Creed or the Hanian Creed. Why we have creeds and confessions is because we don't need to reinvent the wheel and rather than rely on the safe time-tested words and concepts that have been proven and validated, and attacked and defended and, and um, have been victorious for hundreds and thousands of years, rather than rely on those. Moffitt and Van Doran think it is smarter and safer to depart from the pattern of sound words rather than to keep the pattern of sound words because they think that they are able to look at the Bible the way basically no one ever has in the 2000 years of the church and find something they haven't. I don't wanna be too bombastic. Um, I don't, I don't know either of them. Well, um, from what I can tell, what I've heard of their professions of faith, uh, they're, they're Christian believers. They love the Lord and are very confused. But these teachings are pagan. This is, we're talking about returning to a world of, of populated by spiritual beings. And God is kind of just on the highest part of the totem pole, and maybe there's a firm line between his place on the totem pole and the, the next level down. Maybe there is, um, gets a little bit less firm of a line when we're talking about Jesus, right? So there's some potential Arian implications there that the son, uh, is not the highest deity he is. He's like the father in some ways, but he, you know, in his sort of original form is like creatures in other ways. Um, we're just returning to something that the early church fought hard to get rid of when they came out of their pagan culture. When we started to see Greeks convert to Christianity, they had to figure out how do we come out of our polytheistic culture, and this is where we get the best defenses of monotheism. Jewish Christians didn't have to argue for monotheism because all the Jewish Christians already were monotheists in a biblical sense. The Greek Christians had to fight this stuff. Justin Martyr had to fight this stuff. Athanasius and the Cappadocian fathers had to fight this stuff constantly pushing back against the background Greek culture. And Moffitt and Van Dorn wanna point to that and say, see, really, they're just Greeks in disguise and in the reality is Athanasius and the cap oceans, were fighting against the theology that is making a resurgence in this divine council theory. [00:34:55] Conclusion and Call to Action Tony Arsenal: So I think that's enough for now. Please. Again, I'm writing a long series on this. I don't know how long it's gonna take. I think it's gonna be probably 10 or 13, 10 to 13 articles. It's, it's gonna be a pretty extensive project. But go read them. Go look at them, listen to their episodes, read their articles, and then you compare that to the word of God, has what I said made more sense or does what they make more sense. So I'll leave you with that. The dog is losing her mind. And uh, with that honor, everyone love the brotherhood.
Building on the theological concept of "Divine Withdrawal", something many people are unfamiliar with, I delve into the Divine Council, a mysterious event mentioned several times in scripture.
In this episode of Truth in Shadow, host BT delves into the nature of truth and shadows with The Christian Theological Dark Web Podcast hosts: Ricky and Shelly, exploring the dichotomy between absolute truth and postmodern skepticism. They discuss the Nephilim and their implications in today's world, sharing personal journeys of faith and awakening. The conversation also touches on the Divine Council worldview and the sinister forces influencing humanity, urging listeners to seek deeper understanding and connection with their faith. In this conversation, they explore the complexities of faith, the impact of postmodernism on Christianity, and the challenges believers face in a rapidly changing world. He discusses the deconstruction of faith, the role of the church in spiritual warfare, and the importance of standing firm in absolute truth amidst the relativism of postmodern thought. The dialogue also touches on the nature of reality, the significance of prophecy, and the evolving understanding of human rights in the context of sentience. Ultimately, the conversation emphasizes the necessity of truth-seeking and the journey of faith in a world filled with uncertainty and misinformation.
This excellent book is destined to become a new class text in Angelology and behind-the-veil topics that need to be given more attention than they normally get. Micah Van Huss has a vast knowledge of extra-biblical texts, which he references to establish the background of the writers of canonical Scripture and to explain some of the obscure passages in the New Testament that bewilder even the most able commentators. The book brings the reader sound explanations of the Divine Council and how pyramids, ziggurats, and mountains serve as portals. The author shows how the study of things behind the veil demonstrates the vastness of the unseen realm and the power of Jesus' blood to conquer the host of unseen and malevolent spirits.
Mel sits down with Chris and Heather at the first DCW Conference in Indiana to discuss their journey and how Dr. Michael Heiser's work has reshaped their understanding of Scripture. They reflect on the power of exploring divine council theology and cosmic geography to deepen faith and bring clarity to the biblical narrative.
Some people are just born to be in front of a mic, blessed with such charisma, cultural intellect, and communication prowess. That immediately makes listeners hang on their every word. That's the kind of guy who is joining us for the 200th episode of The Rap Music Plug Podcast, none other than Richmond Virginia's own, $ilkMoney. $ilk's commanding mic presence, impossibly malleable flow, and artistic vision has made him one of rap's rising stars from the moment he burst on to the scene as a member of Divine Council. Now firmly in the spotlight as a solo artist, he's given such dense rewarding work, album after album, and has outdone himself with his latest opus, WHO WATERS THE WILTED GIVING TREE. In this episode, we discuss recent comments he's made about Tyler, the Creator and André 3000 that have caught some attention, his free-form psychedelic approach to rap, and the inspiration behind his electric and deeply thoughtful new album. Also, I'd be remiss not to share a quick thought about this milestone of 200 episodes. Because as much as I've run this thing as a one-man show… I did not get here alone. I wouldn't be here without the patrons whose kind support and engagement in the RMPP community have powered me through many nights burning the midnight oil brainstorming or editing an episode. I wouldn't be here without all the artists who trusted me to discuss their work and points of view. And I wouldn't be here without everyone who's ever listened to even one episode of this show. I've had the opportunity to have real conversations with people who I feel make some of the greatest art I've ever heard. It's been an unexpected journey so far, and a legitimate dream come true. This is my baby, and I'm blessed to share their 200th day of existence with $ilkMoney, who made for one of the most entertaining episodes ever on the RMPP. I hope you enjoy. Thank you so much. The Plug (0:41). The Interview (3:09). $ilkMoney's non-music interests (4:22). The inspiration behind $ilk's unique song / album titles (9:37). $ilkMoney on his recent comments towards Tyler, The Creator and André 3000 (16:17). How rap gave $ilkMoney gave him a sense of purpose (25:22). Maintaining creative freedom and authenticity in the music industry (29:35). $ilk's desire to be ‘as free-form as possible' in rap (34:35). Psychedelia in $ilk's art (38:30). $ilkMoney's viscerally elastic flow and songwriting (44:54). How the idea of ‘the giving tree' inspired $ilkMoney on his new album (53:31). The degree of vulnerability from $ilkMoney on WWTWGT (1:00:17). The sonic world of WWTWGT (1:08:45). Upcoming projects / tour dates / merch from $ilkMoney (1:11:31). Buy/stream WWTWGT here: https://silkmoney.bandcamp.com/album/who-waters-the-wilting-giving-tree-once-the-leaves-dry-up-and-fruits-no-longer-bear Follow $ilkMoney on Twitter here: https://x.com/CUUMMONEY Follow $ilkMoney on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/silkbooty/?hl=en Intro/Outro beat by: BLOODBLIXING -- Fiending for some more quality rap content? Visit the RMPP website: https://rmpp.squarespace.com/ Want to support and help us grow? Become a RMPP Patron, and gain access to exclusive content: https://www.patreon.com/therapmusicplugpodcast Looking to connect? DM me @rapmusicplugpod on Twitter and Instagram, or shoot me an email at qlctv.podcast@gmail.com
If you'd like to see full video of this and other episodes, join the Reel Notes Patreon at the Homie ($5/month) tier or higher. Each episode is also available to buy individually for $5 (Buy it through a web browser and not the Patreon app. You'll get charged extra if you purchase through the app.) You also get early access to episodes, an invite to our Discord server, access to the Reel Talk archives, and more!My guest this week is Virginia rapper and co-founder of Divine Council, $ilkmoney. We spoke on his 29th birthday about our mutual love for Black sitcoms like The Wayans Bros., The Parkers, and Living Single, the legacy of Bernie Mac, Cam'ron's roles in Paid In Full and Killa Season, not feeling pressure from Andre 3000 and Tyler, The Creator cosigns, and the creative process behind his latest album Who Waters The Wilting Giving Tree Once The Leaves Dry Up And Fruits No Longer Bear?, out now via Lex Records. Come fuck with us.Who Waters The Wilting Giving Tree is out now wherever music is sold, streamed, or stolen. Consider copping directly from $ilk's Bandcamp. Follow $ilkmoney on Instagram (@silkbooty), Twitter (@CUUMMONEY), and TikTok (@silkmunyun). Read my Best New Music review of $ilk's last album, I Don't Give A Fuck About This Rap Shit, Imma Just Drop Until I Don't Feel Like It Anymore, on Pitchfork.Reel Notes stands in solidarity with American immigrants against ICE and the oppressed peoples of Palestine, Congo, Sudan, Tigray, and Haiti. Please consider donating to the Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights, the Palestine Children's Relief Fund, The Palestinian Youth Movement, The Zakat Foundation, HealAfrica, FreeTigray, and/or Hope For Haiti. For information about contacting your representatives to demand a ceasefire, finding protests, and other tools, check out CeasefireToday!Follow me on Instagram (@cinemasai), Twitter (@CineMasai_), Bluesky (@cinemasai.bsky.social), TikTok (@cinemasai), Letterboxd (@CineMasai), and subscribe to my weekly Nu Musique Friday newsletter to stay tapped into all things Dylan Green. Support the show
A surprise visit from SWAT officers interrupts the podcast—but what starts as chaos quickly turns into a powerful reflection on legacy, parenting presence, and the kind of moments that shape a life. The guys challenge the tendency to paint Jesus as a passive victim, digging into John 10 and Psalm 82 to highlight his divine authority and bold claim to be one with the Father. Zach and Al dive into the mystery of the other celestial beings who make up the “divine council" mentioned in the Bible. In this episode: Revelation 14, verse 4; John 10; John 15, verse 22; Psalm 82; Psalm 89; Ephesians 3, verse 10; 1 Kings 22 “Unashamed” Episode 1123 is sponsored by: Get $10 Off @BRUNT with code UNASHAMED at https://bruntworkwear.com/UNASHAMED! #bruntpod https://puretalk.com/unashamed — Get 50% off your first month when you make the switch! https://myphdweightloss.com — Find out how Al is finally losing weight! Schedule your one-on-one consultation today by visiting the website or calling 864-644-1900. https://andrewandtodd.com or call 888-888-1172 — These guys are the real deal. Get trusted mortgage guidance and expertise from someone who shares your values! Listen to Not Yet Now with Zach Dasher on Apple, Spotify, iHeart, or anywhere you get podcasts. — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
While we all hope that we never do anything to hurt another person, the reality of life is that it will happen. If you can say that you've never had anyone do anything to hurt you, then you are either lucky, naïve, or lying. In today's message, Pastor Ken teaches that this fact of life isn't just exclusive to humanity, but happens to God as well… in fact, it happens daily. God knows your hurt. God understands your hurt. And just like God loves those who hurt Him, you can try to love your enemies as well.
What is salvation, and how does one get it? Is it the key to wealth as long as you are generous enough? No. Is it spiritual enlightenment gained through enough good works? Not exactly. In today's message, Pastor Ken teaches that we've overcomplicated things and think that our actions lead to our salvation when it couldn't be further from the truth. You cannot work your way to heaven. The only way you will get there is by having faith in Jesus as the resurrected Son of God.
Mel, Rich, and Ronn unpack their experience at the Divine Council Worldview Conference, highlighting meaningful connections, diverse perspectives, and Spirit-led conversations. They dive into deep topics like the authority of Scripture, the role of the church fathers, and the centrality of atonement within the Divine Council framework. This episode is a reflection on unity, truth, and the shared mission of living out faith with purpose.
Maybe it's the control freak in me, or maybe it's the lack of patience… but I have a hard time watching someone do something incorrectly when I know I can help them. Do you? If only they'd stop pushing so many buttons or hold the knife the proper way, all their problems would be solved! In today's message, Pastor Ken teaches that people all around you have issues that you can help with, because you know the solution. You know that Jesus is the solution. So why not help them out?
AHAB OBVIOUSLY didn't wear the pants in his family. This week, we discuss the episode of Naboth's vineyard. Ahab pouted because Naboth refused to sell it to the king. Jezebel solved that problem by writing an order using Ahab's royal seal—an early example of the autopen?—falsely accusing Naboth of cursing God and Ahab (an early example of lawfare!). For this sin, Elijah was told by God to let Ahab know that his days were numbered and that his dynasty would end with his son. 1 Kings 22 gives us an example of the divine council in action: “Therefore hear the word of the Lord: I saw the Lord sitting on his throne, and all the host of heaven standing beside him on his right hand and on his left; 20 and the Lord said, ‘Who will entice Ahab, that he may go up and fall at Ramoth-gilead?' And one said one thing, and another said another. 21 Then a spirit came forward and stood before the Lord, saying, ‘I will entice him.' 22 And the Lord said to him, ‘By what means?' And he said, ‘I will go out, and will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets.' And he said, ‘You are to entice him, and you shall succeed; go out and do so.' (1 Kings 22:19–22, ESV) It goes without saying that God knew how this would play out. And He certainly didn't need the help of this unnamed spirit to carry out His will. God created the divine council for the same reason He created you and us: He desires family.NOTE: We will be at the Mysteries of the BibleVerse conference in Indianapolis next weekend. If you are in the area, please consider joining us, Carl Gallups, Micah Van Huss, and others for a gathering based on things your Sunday School teacher didn't talk about. Registration at MarginalMysteries.com.And there will be a live stream! Register for streaming video at faithnettv.lightcast.com.
In this episode, Ryan and Brian continue their discussion of Michael Heiser's The Unseen Realm, shifting focus from the Old Testament to the New Testament. They explore Heiser's “Deuteronomy 32 worldview,” which emphasizes spiritual beings, the Divine Council, and Jesus' mission to reclaim authority over the nations. The hosts dive into key New Testament passages, connecting them to Heiser's thesis about spiritual warfare, the role of demons, and the significance of Jesus' actions in the Gospels.Key Topics Discussed:The Divine Council and Deuteronomy 32 WorldviewRecap of Heiser's concept of the Divine Council: spiritual beings in God's presence, referenced in Psalms and Deuteronomy, who witness and participate in God's dominion.Heiser's “Deuteronomy 32 worldview” ties to Genesis 11 (Tower of Babel) and the Table of Nations in Genesis 10, where 70 nations are assigned to spiritual beings, while Israel remains under Yahweh's direct authority.Discussion of how this worldview shapes the understanding of spiritual dynamics in both Testaments.Jesus and the Twelve DisciplesThe hosts explore the symbolic significance of Jesus choosing 12 disciples, representing the 12 tribes of Israel (Mark 6:7-13).Jesus sends the 12 out with authority over impure spirits, a mission tied to preaching repentance and healing.Casting out demons is noted as unique to Jesus' ministry, absent in early Judaism and the Old Testament, suggesting a spiritual confrontation stirred by the announcement of God's kingdom.The Sending of the 70 (or 72)In Luke 10:1, Jesus sends out 70 (or 72, depending on the manuscript) disciples, which Heiser connects to the 70 nations in Genesis 10.This act symbolizes Jesus' authority over all nations, not just Israel, as a spiritual offensive against the powers assigned to those nations.The disciples return, reporting that “even the demons submit to your name” (Luke 10:17), prompting Jesus' declaration: “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven” (Luke 10:18).Jesus emphasizes rejoicing in salvation (“your names are written in heaven”) over power over spirits.Hades and Spiritual WarfareDiscussion of Hades as both the underworld and a Greek god, referenced in Revelation 6:8 (the pale horse and rider named Death, followed by Hades).Connection to Matthew 16:13-20, where Jesus, at Caesarea Philippi (near Mount Bashan, a place of pagan worship), declares, “On this rock, I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.”Heiser interprets this as an offensive move: the church will break down the defensive “gates” of false gods, not merely resist them.The Transfiguration (Matthew 17) is also linked to this location, reinforcing Jesus' authority over spiritual realms.Paul's Perspective on Spiritual RealitiesIn 1 Corinthians 2:6-10, Paul speaks of “the rulers of this age” who did not understand God's mystery, leading to Jesus' crucifixion. Heiser suggests these rulers are spiritual beings, not just human authorities, defeated through Jesus' death and resurrection.Ephesians 6:10-12 (the armor of God) emphasizes the battle against “spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms,” aligning with Heiser's view of ongoing spiritual warfare.1 Corinthians 10:18-21 connects idol worship to “demons” (Greek: daimonion), which could also mean “gods” in the Septuagint (Deuteronomy 32:17). Paul warns against participating in sacrifices to these entities.1 Peter and the Imprisoned Spirits1 Peter 3:18-22 discusses Jesus' proclamation to “imprisoned spirits” after his resurrection, which Heiser ties to Genesis 6 and...
The Divine Council is a central Old Testament teaching. I would argue that much of the Old Testament doesn't even make sense unless one grasps this concept. In a recent message on Zechariah 6, which itself is a Divine Council passage (revealing the outcome of a Divine Council meeting), I reviewed two of the most important Divine Council passages in the Old Testament: 1 Kings 22 and Psalm 82.Due initially to the abandonment of this teaching by the rabbis around the year 100AD, and for Augustine's influence later, the Divine Council concept has been at best ignored and at worst utterly rejected.Thankfully, in recent years, there seems to have been a recovery of this truth.
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Ruslan recently hosted a debate between Alex O'Connor and David Wood about whether Jesus claimed to be God. An important point in the debate was Jesus' quotation of Psalm 82 in John 10. In this video Gavin Ortlund offers one possible interpretation of this passage that is consistent with Jesus claiming to be God.Truth Unites (https://truthunites.org) exists to promote gospel assurance through theological depth. Gavin Ortlund (PhD, Fuller Theological Seminary) is President of Truth Unites, Visiting Professor of Historical Theology at Phoenix Seminary, and Theologian-in-Residence at Immanuel Nashville.SUPPORT:Tax Deductible Support: https://truthunites.org/donate/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/truthunitesFOLLOW:Website: https://truthunites.org/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/truth.unites/Twitter: https://twitter.com/gavinortlundFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/TruthUnitesPage/
Why is understanding the unseen realm and having a supernatural worldview important to understand the Biblical narrative? Who are the "sons of God," angels, giants, the Nephilim of Genesis 6 and was the serpent in the garden just a snake or something much more?In this episode, Amy is joined once again by Brandon Smith, pastor and host of Black and Blurred Podcast. They dive into the idea of supernaturalism and why understanding that there is more to this natural world, is critical to interpreting the Biblical text. They touch on the important parts of Genesis, like the snake in the garden- why did Eve talk to a snake in the first place - or was there something more that enticed her to communicate and fall for the deception.They also go deeper into Genesis 6, Mt Hermon, the book of Enoch and the story of David and Goliath and how that ties back to the ancient serpent of the garden. This episode is definitely going to blow your mind! If you haven't listened to the Divine Council, be sure to listen to that episode too. *Amy is a Christian counselor - schedule an appointment:https://www.biblicalguidancecounseling.com/appointments*Rumble Bible Studies:https://rumble.com/c/BibleStudywithEyesontheright--------------------------------------------Brandon Smith: branp.smith@gmail.comBrandon is planting a church in his hometown of Baltimore, Maryland with the desire of highlighting the beauty of the gospel revealed in scripture and displayed through His church - a chosen race, royal priesthood, and holy nation. (1 Pet 2:9) Take a glance at what the Lord is doing through him and his family and prayerfully consider partnering with the ministry.You Tube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCX1SN81UTyvN4g-TJzHm5kQWebsite: https://charmcityplant.my.canva.site
Send us a textIn this episode the guys have on a friend and guest Nate Wollman to revisit this discussion on the gods as presented in the Bible. Part 1 of these series introduced this topic and addressed the tension in monotheistic Christianity that's presented in the Biblical record. For this episode the guys return to the strange and mysterious parts of your Bible and jump into further detail about the Divine Council and who they were, as well as discuss related issues like mythological and localized deities and sacred verse defiled land.▶️ Please Like & Subscribe to our YouTube Channel, and make sure to follow us on Facebook and Instagram @shadowcastradio
The Bible reveals a supernatural world that is often overlooked. In this episode, we explore the concept of the Divine Council—God's heavenly court—and its role in shaping biblical history. From Genesis to Revelation, Scripture unveils a spiritual realm where God reigns supreme, surrounded by divine beings with roles and responsibilities. Understanding this biblical framework gives us deeper insight into spiritual warfare, the fall of rebellious powers, and God's ultimate plan for redemption.undergodpodcast.com#SupernaturalBiblicalWorldview #DivineCouncil #SpiritualWarfare
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Welcome to the world of Desjanée Threat, an exceptional intuitive channeler, seer, and representative of the Divine Council—a sacred assembly of gods, goddesses, and deities. Known as a Healing Healer™️, Desjanée Threat dedicates herself to healing others while embarking on her own profound journey of self-healing. With her divine essence, creative prowess, and extensive knowledge, she also serves as an inspiring educator.Desjanée Threat's mission revolves around raising Earth's vibration, fostering the upliftment of humanity, and guiding people to reconnect with their innate magic and the boundless wonders within the universe—an awakening of tremendous significance.She accomplishes this by delivering channeled messages and divine spiritual guidance, acting as a bridge between realms.Recognized as a multifaceted spiritual practitioner, Desjanée Threat embodies the roles of a lightworker, Atlantean Starseed, Earth angel, and mystic. Her unique perspectives are encapsulated in two profound philosophies: "Love, Light, and Boundaries™️" and "Light, Shadow, and Dark™️."Through her personal spiritual and healing journey, Desjanée Threat continuously explores new depths within herself, embracing her authenticity and vulnerability as she embarks on the path of healing.If you seek enlightenment, healing, and spiritual growth, Desjanée Threat offers her profound wisdom and transformative guidance. Unleash the power within, unlock your true potential, and embark on a remarkable journey towards self-discovery and self-realization with Desjanée Threat, the embodiment of divine light, love, and wisdom.Please enjoy my conversation with Desjanée Threat.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/next-level-soul-podcast-with-alex-ferrari--4858435/support.
Throughout history, mountains have held deep spiritual significance—serving as meeting places between heaven and earth, battlegrounds of supernatural warfare, and stages for divine encounters. From the Garden of Eden to Mount Sinai, from the transfiguration of Christ to the crucifixion, the Bible is filled with moments where mountains play a pivotal role in God's plan for humanity. But why? What is the deeper connection between these sacred heights and the cosmic battle between good and evil?In this episode of the Revelations Podcast, host Reagan Kramer welcomes back pastor, author, and theologian Doug Van Dorn for an eye-opening discussion on biblical mountains, the divine council, and the supernatural forces that have shaped human history. Together, they explore how God uses mountains as places of revelation, how fallen entities have sought to corrupt them, and how Jesus' ministry strategically reversed the destruction caused by the enemy.Whether you're a seasoned Bible scholar or just beginning to explore the deeper spiritual dimensions of scripture, this episode will leave you with a greater understanding of God's plan and the victory we have in Christ.Here are three reasons why you should listen to this episode:Gain a deeper understanding of the biblical significance of mountains and their connection to the supernatural realm.Learn about the concept of the divine council and how it relates to mythological entities like Zeus and Baal, and their connection to Satan.Reflect on the practical implications of understanding the supernatural worldview, particularly in terms of overcoming worry and trusting in God's control.Become Part of Our Mission! Support The Revelations Podcast:Your support fuels our mission to share transformative messages of hope and faith. Click here to learn how you can contribute and be part of this growing community!ResourcesMore from the Revelations Podcast hosted by Reagan Kramer: Website | Instagram | Apple Podcast | Youtube"Rings of Revelation" by Doug Van Dorn"Giant Sons of God" by Doug Van Dorn"The Unseen Real" — by Dr. Michael HeiserDoug Van Dorn: Website | InstagramGiant Steps Podcast - Apple Podcast | Spotify PodcastIron and Myth Podcast - YouTube Kingdoms Unveiled Podcast - YouTube | Apple Podcast | Spotify PodcastBible VersesPsalm 82:1Isaiah 14:12-14Ezekiel 28Genesis 3:1Ezekiel 31Psalm 91Psalm 24Psalm 68Daniel 42 Peter 2:4Jude 1:6This Episode is brought to you by Advanced Medicine AlternativesGet back to the active life you love through natural & regenerative musculoskeletal healing: https://www.georgekramermd.com/Episode Highlights[0:44] Introduction to Doug Van Doren and his WorkA journey from Minneapolis to Denver shaped Doug Van Dorn's path as a pastor, author, and theologian dedicated to biblical mysteries and the supernatural.His extensive background includes roles as a scholar, radio host, CEO, mountain climber, and fellow at the Institute for Biblical Anthropology.Books like Rings of Revelation and Giant Sons of God, along with the Giant Steps podcast, dive deep into theological and supernatural themes.This episode unpacks key topics such as biblical mountains, divine encounters, and the ongoing spiritual battle between good and evil.[3:20] Significance of Mountains in the BibleBiblical events unfold on mountains, from Noah's Ark resting on Mount Ararat to the giving of the Ten Commandments on Mount Sinai.[4:46] Doug: “"Mountains are all over the place. And the question becomes, why would that be? And that's where you need to understand first of all, that God is meeting with people on all of these mountains.”The "axis mundi," a concept describing mountains as divine meeting points, reveals their role as a bridge between heaven and earth.Mountains hold significance not only in the Bible but also in global mythologies, including Mount Olympus and sacred Native American sites.Isaiah 14 introduces the “mount of assembly,” linking biblical mountains to divine councils where heavenly beings gather.[5:10] Divine Council and Mythological ConnectionsMountains serve as the setting for the divine council, where God meets with angels and heavenly beings to rule over creation.Ancient mythologies mirror biblical narratives, with figures like Zeus and Baal representing the same rebellious entity—Satan.Mount Zaphon, recognized as Baal's sacred mountain, connects directly to the divine council and the spiritual battle against false gods.The fall of Lucifer in Isaiah 14 echoes the rebellion of spiritual beings, linking the serpent in Eden to later deceptions throughout history.[17:42] Eden and the Divine CouncilThe Garden of Eden is depicted as a mountain, a place where heaven and earth intersect.Adam and Eve's use of fig leaves for covering may symbolize an early attempt to seek refuge in fallen supernatural beings.Satan's jealousy over humanity's God-given authority fueled his deception in Eden, setting the stage for spiritual warfare.The Edenic narrative connects to a larger biblical pattern of rebellion, redemption, and the ongoing struggle between good and evil.[24:01] The Post-Flood Rebellion and the Return of the NephilimFollowing the flood, fallen angels were imprisoned in "gloomy chains of darkness," as described in 2 Peter 2:4 and Jude 6.Despite this judgment, the Nephilim reappear after the flood, indicating a renewed rebellion by supernatural forces.Ancient texts, including the Book of Enoch, describe how 200 fallen angels conspired to corrupt humanity.The struggle between God's people and these rebellious beings continues throughout Scripture, reinforcing the need for spiritual vigilance.[36:29] Moses, Mount Sinai, and the Law as a Divine RevelationMount Sinai is a sacred site where God revealed His law to Moses, establishing a covenant with Israel.Patterns in Scripture link Sinai to Eden and the future Temple, each acting as a central place of divine presence and instruction.The tabernacle mirrors the structure of the mountain, symbolizing levels of access to God's holiness.The law delivered at Sinai not only governed Israel but also foreshadowed Christ's fulfillment of righteousness.[40:16] The Golden Calf and IdolatryThe Israelites, fearing God's presence, attempted to worship Him through an idol, reshaping Him into something they could control.[41:02] Doug: “Idolatry is we're going to make that God that's up there come and be in this calf, so that we can somehow manipulate him because that's too terrifying for us.”The golden calf represented a common struggle—seeking to domesticate God rather than submitting to His true nature.Idolatry in all forms distorts faith, leading people to trust in tangible symbols rather than divine truth.Understanding this historical moment sheds light on the continuous human tendency to replace God with lesser things.[43:58] Jesus' Ministry and Supernatural BattlesEach phase of Jesus' ministry strategically dismantles Satan's authority over the world.[48:27] Doug: “Jesus's ministry is a multiple phased attack on Satan, and you have to understand some cosmic geography, and some of the motifs we've been talking about here are also very helpful.”The region of Bashan, known as "the land of the serpent," becomes the battleground where Christ begins His campaign against darkness.Key moments—including His temptation in the wilderness, His healing miracles, and His transfiguration—symbolize a reclaiming of territory from the enemy.Through these events, Jesus openly declares war on the forces of darkness, establishing His dominion over both heaven and earth.[52:48] Jesus' Death, Resurrection, and AscensionCalvary stands as the cosmic mountain where Jesus' sacrifice defeats sin and death.Descending into Hades, Christ proclaims victory and liberates those who awaited redemption.His resurrection seals His triumph, securing authority over all spiritual forces.By ascending to the right hand of God, Jesus asserts His role as the ultimate conqueror over evil.[57:10] Practical Implications of a Supernatural WorldviewThe desire for control, often expressed through worry and fear, stems from spiritual forces working against faith.Trusting in God's sovereignty dismantles the illusion of control and realigns believers with divine truth.Spiritual warfare manifests not only in extraordinary events but in daily battles over faith, trust, and obedience.Understanding Christ's victory allows believers to walk in peace, embracing their role in God's kingdom rather than being consumed by speculation about the future. About Doug Van Dorn Doug Van Dorn is a pastor, author, and theologian known for his deep exploration of biblical mysteries and the supernatural realm. With over two decades of pastoral experience, he has dedicated his work to uncovering the spiritual battles woven throughout Scripture, from the Nephilim and the Divine Council to the cosmic significance of mountains in biblical history. As the author of Giant Sons of God and Rings of Revelation, Doug bridges ancient texts, historical research, and theological insight to reveal the hidden layers of God's plan and the forces at work against it.Beyond writing, Doug is the host of the Giant Steps podcast and co-host of Iron and Myth, where he collaborates with other scholars to discuss the supernatural foundations of the Bible. A fellow at the Institute for Biblical Anthropology, he is also a speaker and researcher who challenges believers to embrace a biblical worldview that acknowledges the unseen realm. Whether teaching in his church or uncovering historical and theological connections, Doug's passion lies in equipping believers to discern truth, stand firm in faith, and understand how Jesus' ministry actively overcomes the darkness.Connect with Doug Van Dorn and explore his books, podcasts, and resources on his website.Enjoyed this Episode?If you did, subscribe and share it with your friends!Post a review and share it! If you found our deep dive into the spiritual influences on mental health insightful, we'd love to hear your thoughts. Leave a review and share this episode with friends and family. Uncover the hidden layers of biblical history and step into a deeper understanding of the supernatural realm. Strengthen your faith by recognizing the spiritual battles at play and discern truth from deception. Embrace victory that Christ has already won.Have any questions? You can connect with me on Instagram.Thank you for tuning in! For more updates, tune in on Apple Podcasts.
Have you ever taken a test in school? You start the test and release you don't know any of the answers. Can't life be like that? Many times we don't know the answers to life's biggest questions. On this episode of The Other Six Podcast, join Pastors Chad and Jim as they dive into the story of Job—his trials, his raw honesty, and the lessons we can learn from his suffering. Is there a difference between tempting and testing? How do we walk alongside a friend in the middle of a mess? And what does it mean to trust God's process when we don't understand what's happening behind the scenes? Tune in as we wrestle with these deep truths and more! Resources Mentioned: The Bible Project video on Divine Council - https://youtube.com/watch?v=e1rai6WoOJU Who is “The Satan” in the Book of Job from the Bible Project - https://bit.ly/3WWidBM Unseen Realm by Dr. Michael Heiser to learn about the Divine Council Worldview - https://bit.ly/3WX70kx Dr. Michael Heiser's Divine Council Worldview Video Lecture Series - https://bit.ly/3Cz6tyt The Naked Bible Podcast with Dr. Michael Heiser: The Book of Job - https://bit.ly/4jVy4KL
In this episode, Ronn and Mike explore Joseph's announcement to his brothers, appreciating how this kind of story makes us consider God's involvement in human affairs. They recommend, in the end, that a Divine Council worldview plays an important and unique role in working through the complex question of God's sovereignty and human freewill. Their conversation moves through the complex narrative of Jacob's faith journey, his interactions with Yahweh, and the significance of family dynamics as they move to Egypt.
Eden was the paradise we lost due to Original Sin. Would you be surprised to know that Eden was not only a garden but also a great mountain where God held court with his mightiest Angels? Is it possible that the location of Eden affects modern global politics? The story of Adam and Eve is so familiar that we take it for granted, and in doing so, miss out on important insights. In this week's podcast:Why did God “rest” on the 7th day of Creation?What does it mean to be “made in the image of God”?What was the purpose of the trees in the Garden of Eden?How was Eden paradise, and why is it fallen man's ambition to get back to Eden without God?If the garden was in the EAST of Eden, what was the rest of Eden like?Who are God's “Divine Council”?Where MIGHT Eden have been located and how does this location impact the modern world?For exclusive content, Q&A Videos, and private Bible study, become a Faith By Reason Patreon www.patreon.com/faithbyreason
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Welcome to Day 2549 of Wisdom-Trek. Thank you for joining me. This is Guthrie Chamberlain, Your Guide to Wisdom Day 2549 – Old Testament Orientation – The Grand Narrative of the Old Testament Putnam Church Message – 01/12/2024 Sermon Series: Old Testament Orientation Message 2: The Grand Narrative of the Old Testament Last week, we started a new series called Old Testament Orientation. We answered the question, “What is the Old Testament?” We explored how it is ultimately linked to the New Testament and that The entire Bible is a unified story that leads to Jesus. This week, we are continuing our series and exploring ‘The Grand Narrative of the Old Testament.' Opening Prayer Heavenly Father, we gather here today to explore the beauty and depth of Your story revealed in the Old Testament. Open our minds and hearts to see Your hand at work, weaving redemption and hope through every page. May we learn to trust You more deeply and understand our place in Your grand narrative. Guide us now by Your Spirit. In Jesus' name, Amen. Introduction The Old Testament isn't just a collection of ancient laws, prophecies, and genealogies. It is a grand narrative—a sweeping story of God's work among humanity, beginning with creation and pointing forward to ultimate redemption. For the ancient Israelites, this story was not just history; it was their identity, faith, and hope. The difference between the Old Testament and the New Testament is that the Old Testament is the story primarily of Israel. Starting with Genesis 12 all the way through the Old Testament, the story is focused on Israel. After the world implodes in Genesis 1-11, God decides to preserve a remnant so He can get what He desires, and what he desires is a human family. So, out of the chaos and depravity, he calls Abram, changes his name to Abraham, and starts over the Edenic (Garden of Eden) plan. God says, “I want a human family. That is why I created humanity. Things have gone terribly, but I am not giving up. I am going to take this one guy and his wife who cannot have children, and I am going to supernaturally create a people from them, and that is how I am going to keep the plan alive to eventually bring all nations back to me.” The nations dispersed at Babbel were reunited when Jesus Christ began God's kingdom on earth, and Pentecost was bringing together all nations under Christ. Today, we'll walk through the grand narrative of the Old Testament from an ancient Israelite's perspective. We must take on the mindset of an ancient Israelite. (Bulletin) We'll focus on: God as Creator and Sustainer God's Covenant with His People The Consequences of Disobedience The Hope of Redemption Let's immerse ourselves in the story and see how it speaks to our lives today. God as Creator and Sustainer The story begins with God's act of creation. Genesis 1:1 declares, “In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.” For the Israelites, this was not just an explanation of origins but a proclamation of God's authority over all creation. From a Divine Council worldview, this narrative also introduces the unseen realm, where God presides over a council of divine beings who...
The Divine Council Worldview doesn't just affect how we read the Bible; it changes our lives. So why do so many people (including me!) react so poorly when we first encounter it? And does it really matter if we embrace it? I sat down with my good friend, Chris Lenoir, to discuss those very questions. My Satan series: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5oAvNLE5030_XWDG9oWCKfB4aMbXMUbh&si=XT_yZos_HrViFV7_ Chris's Angelology series (subscribe while you're there!): https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUWh2PtaHWAmiuJj-TSmdANjN9O6pGgDT&si=gzkPzKRFFU7aLRum Time Stamps: 00:00 Intro 01:07 Briefly explaining the Divine Council Worldview 08:18 How we've seen people react 12:58 How Chris first reacted 15:00 How Ray first reacted 18:06 Why Ray changed his mind 20:11 Why Chris changed his mind 20:53 The influence of Christian Tradition 27:35 Does DCW remove God's sovereignty? 33:27 How DCW has changed our lives 34:09 Ray and spiritual warfare 36:42 Chris and spiritual warfare 39:25 Ray understanding Jesus as “King of Kings” 41:38 Chris embracing his heavenly citizenship 44:21 This stuff matters Support My Work If you'd like to support what I do, here are some ways you can help: • Monthly Support: https://www.Patreon.com/OnwardintheFaith • One-Time Donations: https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/OnwardintheFaith | https://account.venmo.com/u/Ray-Burns-6 Check Out My Devotionals on Amazon: • 40 Moments From Christ's Final Days: https://a.co/d/ap0sru7 • 25 Days of Christ in the Old Testament: https://a.co/d/0XVckX4 Hashtags #Christianity #BibleStudy #Theology #Faith #divinecouncil Music Credits • YouTube Outro Music by UNIVERSFIELD from Pixabay • Podcast Outro Music by LesFM from Pixabay
This week has been a challenge for editing and with the show in general, still working on how my videos that are missing.....and my editing software #capcut is missing because its now outlawed....So I began to scour my episodes and compare my archives. Never wanting to make my audience wait, I found an anomaly! This gem and I do mean gem was never released on Spotify and only on YouTube...This is a stellar episode with an even more amazing guest! Brennan is literally one of my first guests! He is an amazing researcher and in general an awesome person!!! Brennan goes over the Divine council where we dropped off in episode 24! Dr Michael Heiser is the basis for much of this talk and he is one of the absolute greats! You won't want to miss this episode! Also shoutout Brennan for all you amazing work, I truly appreciate you!!! God Bless everyone each and every episode, and please forgive my intro hahaha
In this episode of Closer to Venus, host Johnny Burke interviews Beth Byer, a registered nurse, ordained rabbi, attorney, and spiritual hypnotherapist. Beth's diverse career path led her to spiritual hypnotherapy, where she helps individuals achieve physical, emotional, and spiritual well-being. The discussion covers communicating with the higher self, the concept of between lives soul regression, and the evolving nature of humanity's consciousness. Beth also shares insights into soul contracts, the role of the Divine Council, and the experiences of clients who recall past lives, galactic lives, and future lives. 00:00 Introduction to Beth Beyer 00:35 Beth's Journey to Spiritual Hypnotherapy 01:55 Impact of Faith and Personal Loss 04:14 Understanding Spiritual Hypnotherapy 07:01 Exploring the Spirit World 10:49 Soul Contracts and Healing 12:19 Quantum Healing Hypnosis Technique (QHHT) 15:33 Higher Self and Spirit Guides 18:47 Angels, Extraterrestrials, and Hybrid Beings 22:35 Life Between Lives and Soul Planning 31:43 Divine Council and Life Purpose 36:45 Conclusion and Contact Information https://www.renohypnotherapyqhht.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Join us as we go back to the roots and take a look at Mike Heiser's teaching of The Divine Council and the Supernatural Worldview. This is my second ever recording. Enjoy guys!
Join us in the Phonebooth time machine as we go back to Season 1 of The Dig. We go back to the basics where the journey all started, with Mike Heiser and the Divine Council worldview. Sit back, relax and enjoy the journey!Want to skip the ads? Sign up as a member on Supercast! Supercast is so much better than Patreon. Everyone listens to podcasts on podcast players, Supercast links to your favorite player seamlessly. You get the ad free, and exclusive episodes right on your favorite player! The $4 teir gets you an ad free experience!! https://prometheuslens.supercast.com
In this episode, we sit down with Dr. Joel Muddamalle to explore the fascinating concept of the Divine Council. Drawing on ancient texts, biblical theology, and cultural insights, Dr. Muddamalle unpacks the idea of God's heavenly court—an assembly of spiritual beings tasked with carrying out his divine purposes. How does this framework shape our understanding of the unseen realm? What does it reveal about God's relationship with humanity? This episode is sponsored by: https://rocketmoney.com/blurry — Cancel unwanted subscriptions with Rocket Money. The average person saves up to $740 a year! EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ➼ https://nordvpn.com/blurrycreatures Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! https://mintmobile.com/blurry — Get your premium wireless plan for $15 a month when you try Mint Mobile for the first time! COSTA RICA TICKETS! https://www.eventcreate.com/e/costarica2025 You can get our book of Enoch here: https://amzn.to/3xriiUB Support the show! www.blurrycreatures.com/members Socials instagram.com/blurrycreatures facebook.com/blurrycreatures twitter.com/blurrycreatures Music Kyle Monroe: tinytaperoom.com & Parker Mogensen Outro Song: On the Run by TimeCop1983 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
What are the divine spiritual beings spoken of as "elohim" in the Bible and how does this help us understand the Biblical worldview? In this episode, Amy is joined by Brandon, of the Black and Blurred Podcast. Brandon pastor and teacher, brings his extensive knowledge on the Biblical worldview, often discussed by the late Dr. Michael Heiser. Brandon discusses how understanding this worldview helps to uncover passages in scripture like psalm 82/89. Who are the fallen angels and the "sons of God," spoken of in Genesis 6 and the book of Job? Brandon also unpacks the pushback of polytheism and misconceptions about the supernatural realm of the Bible. This podcast will be the foundational blocks to help you understand and research more on your own! -------------------------------------------------------------------*Need a Christian counselor? Schedule a session with Amy: https://www.biblicalguidancecounseling.com. *Follow Amy's verse by verse Bible studies: https://rumble.com/c/BibleStudywithEyesontheright ------------------------------------------------------------------- *Follow Black & Blurred Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@BBpodcast *IG: @blackandblurredpodcast *Pod: https://open.spotify.com/show/72fcDMvtcj1zlc7Kfq9u4t .
Send us a textIn this episode, we learn that if we don't pay closer attention and "shema" (hear, listen to, obey) the gospel of Jesus, we're going to drift away from it. And if the old message of the law, delivered by the angels, was so important to God that those who disobeyed it were justly punished, how much more trouble will we be in if we neglect His new and far superior message? The message that was delivered in person by Jesus, attested to by the apostles and the disciples and endorsed by God Himself through miracles and the gifts of the Holy Spirit.Defending the Biblical Roots of ChristianityOur websiteOur YouTube ChannelProf. Solberg's BlogSupport our Ministry (Thank you!)Chapters00:00 Open and recap02:12 Hebrews 2:1–4 14:27 The Divine Council and the Giving of the Law31:04 Wrap it up, Professor.
What if your mental health struggles had deeper, spiritual causes? Everyone knows how to handle their physical health — exercise and a balanced diet, for example. Modern healthcare also covers mental health, giving us more insights into how to safeguard our thoughts and emotions. But sometimes the roots of our health problems are neither physical nor mental. Things like occult influences, spiritual oppression and demonic strongholds unknowingly could bring spiritual health under attack. This could lead to demonization, depression, gender confusion and suicidal ideation.In this episode of the Revelations Podcast, we're joined by Dr. Natalie Atwell, a seasoned mental health practitioner and passionate advocate for integrating biblical truths into mental health care. With over 20 years of experience, Dr. Atwell shares her journey from overcoming personal challenges like childhood trauma and physical disabilities to becoming a voice in the mental health field. Her insights bridge the gap between mental and spiritual health, offering a unique perspective on how the spiritual and psychological realms intersect.This conversation is a must-listen for anyone grappling with mental health challenges, whether for themselves or their loved ones. It's especially valuable for Christian parents seeking to navigate the mental health landscape for their children.Here are three reasons why you should listen to this episode:Discover an in-depth understanding of the connection between mental and spiritual health and how our identity in Christ is so important to live as an image bearer of God.Learn how spiritual oppression by dark forces could lead to anxiety, sleep paralysis, suicidal ideation and dissociation.Hear Dr Atwell's opinion on how technology affects the mental health of our youth, particularly when it comes to anxiety and depression.Become Part of Our Mission! Support The Revelations Podcast:Your support fuels our mission to share transformative messages of hope and faith. Click here to learn how you can contribute and be part of this growing community!ResourcesMore from the Revelations Podcast hosted by Reagan Kramer: Website | Instagram | Apple Podcast | YoutubeVisit Dr. Natalie Atwell's counseling service, Concord CounselingDr. Natalie Atwell: Facebook | InstagramWebsite: mentalwarriorconsulting.comIG: instagram.com/mentalwarriorconsultingRead The Unseen Realm by Dr. Michael HeiserBible Verses:Ephesians 6Matthew 4Genesis 6This Episode is brought to you by Advanced Medicine AlternativesGet back to the active life you love through natural & regenerative musculoskeletal healing: https://www.georgekramermd.com/Episode Highlights[01:18] Dr. Atwell's Biblical Approach to Mental HealthDr. Atwell has over 20 years of experience in the mental health field, and currently runs a private practice in Charlotte, North Carolina.She is an adjunct faculty member at Liberty University and serves on a local human trafficking task force.Dr. Atwell was born with clubfoot, which required multiple surgeries to correct. But thanks to medical technology, she was able to overcome it.[06:14] Natalie: “I went from not walking the first two years of my life to being able to complete a marathon. That's a miracle.”Concord Counseling, which is Dr. Atwell's practice, believes in integrating biblical teachings with mental health care.Part of her work involves developing tools and assessments to address both psychological and spiritual challenges to mental and spiritual health.[11:24] Rising Spiritual Warfare in Mental HealthPost-2020, Dr. Atwell noticed a sharp increase in spiritual oppression linked to mental health, particularly dissociation, sleep paralysis, and suicidal ideation.Dr. Atwell developed a test to identify occult influences that might be affecting her clients' mental and spiritual health.Discerning spiritual influences alongside psychological factors is a core part of Dr. Atwell's methodology.Dr. Atwell is concerned about the rise of occult practices, being used in therapy. She warns against non-Christian influences in mainstream mental health treatments.According to Dr. Atwell, non-Christian practices in mental health services could open the gateway to dark forces that seek to harm your spiritual health.[23:30] The Divine Council WorldviewThe Divine Council worldview lets you approach Scripture using a supernatural lens.According to this perspective, there is a council that rules over the universe. Conversely, the rebels are the Enemy and fallen angels. [25:20] Natalie: “Being human is special, and I don't know that we talk about it enough, but being an imager of God is so important, and it is our identity that we were called to represent him on earth and to have dominion.” Natalie believes all sexual perversions stem from fallen angels mating with human women.Demonic forces attack your identity and the concept of you as an image of God.[31:21] The Role of Parents in Spiritual ProtectionParents play a central role in protecting their children from dark powers. Dr. Atwell advises parents to harness the power of prayer.She also stresses the importance of teaching children about spiritual warfare and their identity in Christ.Parents should closely monitor their children's exposure to technology and social media.The power of scripture and the divine influences children's spiritual health.[35:45] Impact of Technology and Social Media on YouthDr. Atwell links rising anxiety, depression, and suicidal ideation in youth to social media use. Unmonitored technology tends to have a negative effect on children's mental health.Technology is often a gateway to exposure to dark spiritual influences, even unintentionally.Gender confusion is often a result of children having access to more sources of information and learning, giving them alternative perspectives.[47:56] The Importance of Ephesians 6 in Spiritual WarfareEphesians 6 discusses the armor of God, and as such is a central part of spiritual warfare. It has since become a central verse to Dr. Atwell's approach.Donning the armor of God can help people protect themselves from spiritual attacks and safeguards spiritual health.A critical element to remember about Ephesians 6 is the importance of fighting not against flesh, but against spiritual forces.The armor of God also includes tools like the helmet of salvation, shield of faith, and sword of the Spirit.[50:44] Deliverance and Mental Health TreatmentDr. Atwell has developed a treatment model based on biblical principles for spiritual deliverance.The model focuses on renouncing spiritual influences, confessing sins, and reclaiming identity in Christ.[51:17] Natalie: “I am a human, an imager of God, and that is my call and plan and purpose in life.”Dr. Atwell advocates for spiritual freedom through the power of the Holy Spirit and God's word.About NatalieDr. Natalie Atwell is a licensed mental health expert with over 20 years of experience, specializing in the intersection of mental health and spirituality. She is the owner and clinical director of a private counseling practice in Charlotte, North Carolina, where she leads a team of 20 professionals. Dr. Atwell is also an adjunct faculty member at Liberty University, teaching in the Clinical Mental Health and School Counseling programs.In addition to her clinical work, she serves on her local County Human Trafficking Task Force and collaborates with several nonprofit organizations, including Present Age Ministries, an anti-sex trafficking agency. A passionate advocate for integrating biblical principles with mental health care, Dr. Atwell has developed tools and assessments to help clients address both psychological and spiritual challenges. She is also an author, with her book I Can Do Anything in the Right Pair of Shoes sharing her personal journey of overcoming childhood physical challenges and how faith has shaped her life and career.Connect with Natalie through her practice's website, Concord Counseling. 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In this episode, Rich and Mel interview Fern and Audrey, who share their work helping survivors of trauma-based mind control, reflecting on their personal experiences and the impact of Dr. Mike Heiser's Divine Council worldview, especially through his books, *The Myth That is True*, *The Facade* and *The Portent*. They explore the complexities of dissociation, discussing how different parts of a person's identity function and how to discern between dissociated personalities and demonic possession. Fern shares a powerful story about working with a survivor of satanic ritual abuse, highlighting the challenges of spiritual discernment. Throughout the conversation, they stress the importance of love, empathy, and understanding in the healing process, and the critical need for education and training to address spiritual abuse in churches.