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The Herle Burly was created by Air Quotes Media with support from our presenting sponsor TELUS, as well as CN Rail, Saab Canada, and the Public Service Alliance of Canada.Greetings you curiouser and curiouser Herle Burly-ites! If you're any kind of regular listener to the Air Quotes Media Pod universe, you know a powerful political eruption is happening in B.C., as a result of a ruling of the B.C. Supreme Court.The Cowichan Decision, in combination with the existing DRIPA legislation, has been covered in depth by our sister pod, Hotel Pacifico.Why should a politico in the rest of Canada care? Because I think this is the biggest legal question, not just in British Columbia, but all of Canada right now: Can a court declare Indigenous title over privately held land?If so, do you own your house after 30 years of mortgage payments? Does industry invest in new nation building projects on land they don't even know is theirs? The politics of this thing are sinking Premier Eby in British Columbia. Poilievre raised it as a cudgel in Q.P.  Prime Minister Carney responded that private property rights are fundamental in Canada and that his government will always defend them.  They are appealing the decision of the B.C. Supreme Court.Meanwhile, the issue goes to the heart of reconciliation agenda in this country. Harming perceptions and long fought for advances.With us to discuss ALL OF IT are the hosts of Hotel Pacifico and 2 of the best political strategists I know ... Mike McDonald & Geoff Meggs. Thank you for joining us on #TheHerleBurly podcast. Please take a moment to give us a rating and review on iTunes, Spotify, or your favourite podcast app.Watch episodes of The Herle Burly via Air Quotes Media on YouTube.The sponsored ads contained in the podcast are the expressed views of the sponsor and not those of the publisher.

Trump's China Gamble EPISODE DESCRIPTION President Trump's summit with Xi Jinping sparks outrage after praising China, defending Chinese students, and downplaying concerns over Chinese-owned farmland near U.S. military bases. Tara and Lee break down whether Trump is playing strategic chess with China and Iran—or dangerously legitimizing America's biggest geopolitical threat. Plus: explosive allegations about South Carolina's “UniParty” machine, redistricting battles, inflation fallout, and why conservatives are sounding the alarm over Democrat-backed Republicans in the Palmetto State. HOOK Trump says China is “great,” calls America and China the “G2,” and defends Chinese ownership of farmland near military bases. Is this master-level negotiation… or a massive political risk? KEY TOPICS Trump's controversial comments about China and Xi Jinping China's relationship with Iran and oil negotiations Behind-the-scenes security fears during Trump's Beijing summit Chinese students, farmland purchases, and espionage concerns Inflation fallout from Biden-era spending policies Marco Rubio on Iran, oil prices, and nuclear threats “Chiran” theory: China's influence over Iran South Carolina redistricting battle and GOP civil war David Pascoe controversy and “UniParty” accusations Lindsey Graham, Henry McMaster, and open primary criticism MAIN SEGMENTS SEGMENT 1 — Trump's China Comments Spark Conservative Backlash Trump stunned conservatives during his Sean Hannity interview by praising China, defending Chinese students studying in America, and downplaying fears over Chinese ownership of farmland near U.S. military bases. Tara and Lee debate whether Trump is simply negotiating publicly while privately recognizing China as America's top adversary. SEGMENT 2 — The Secret Side of the Beijing Summit Despite Trump's warm public rhetoric, reports reveal White House staff discarded all Chinese-issued devices, credentials, and materials before boarding Air Force One. Staff reportedly used burner phones and avoided bringing personal devices into Chinese airspace, revealing deep distrust behind the scenes. SEGMENT 3 — Oil, Iran, and Trump's Economic Chess Match The hosts explore Trump's reported effort to replace China's Iranian oil imports with American energy exports. They argue the strategy could weaken both Iran and Russia while forcing China to pay full market price for oil instead of relying on discounted sanctioned crude. SEGMENT 4 — Inflation, Iran, and Rubio's Defense Democrats attack Trump over gas prices and his comments about ignoring Americans' financial concerns during negotiations with Iran. Marco Rubio pushes back, arguing Trump is signaling strength to Tehran and refusing to allow energy prices to become leverage in nuclear talks. SEGMENT 5 — “Chiran”: China's Grip on Iran Tara outlines the theory that China effectively controls Iran's infrastructure, surveillance systems, and energy strategy. The discussion connects Chinese investment in Iran's nuclear and digital infrastructure to broader concerns about authoritarian expansion and global energy dominance. SEGMENT 6 — South Carolina's GOP Civil War The conversation shifts to South Carolina politics, where Tara accuses establishment Republicans of operating as Democrats within the GOP. The hosts blast open primaries, criticize Lindsey Graham and Henry McMaster, and warn conservatives about attorney general candidate David Pascoe. SOUND BITES “Trump's talking to the enemy, not the voters.” “Publicly they smiled. Privately they swept the plane for bugs.” “China doesn't want partnership. China wants leverage.” “You don't bring burner phones unless you know the threat is real.” “This is economic warfare disguised as diplomacy.” “The UniParty machine is panicking in South Carolina.” SOCIAL MEDIA TEASER Trump praises China. Conservatives erupt. Behind the scenes? White House staff reportedly used burner phones, dumped Chinese-issued devices, and treated Beijing like ho ...

Trump's China Gamble EPISODE DESCRIPTION President Trump's high-stakes summit with Xi Jinping sparks outrage, confusion, and major questions about America's future. While Trump publicly praises China and pushes massive trade deals, reports from inside the trip reveal burner phones, security sweeps, and deep distrust behind closed doors. Is Trump playing 4D chess with global oil markets and Iran, or risking America's leverage against an ascendant China? Tara breaks down the trade strategy, the geopolitical stakes, the oil war with Iran, and the shocking reactions from conservatives and the media alike. HOOK Trump says China is investing hundreds of billions into America… while his own staff reportedly treated Beijing like hostile territory. What's really happening behind the scenes? KEY TALKING POINTS Trump and Xi Jinping announce new trade understandings Massive investment promises for American companies Skepticism surrounding China's past unfulfilled Boeing commitments Reports that Trump staff used burner phones and discarded all Chinese-issued items Security concerns involving Secret Service and Chinese officials Debate over Chinese ownership of U.S. farmland near military bases Trump defending Chinese student programs while visa restrictions quietly tighten Foreign student enrollment reportedly dropping sharply under Trump policies The larger geopolitical strategy involving Iran, Russia, and global oil markets China's dependence on discounted oil and Trump's energy leverage strategy Concerns about China's relationship with Democrats and election interference claims South Carolina lawmakers facing backlash over voting themselves pay raises FEATURED CLIPS Trump on China investing “hundreds of billions” into American companies Sean Hannity interview discussing Chinese farmland and foreign students Reports of burner phones and Air Force One security sweeps Victoria Coates on China, Iran, and global oil leverage Discussion on foreign student enrollment declines at U.S. universities SEO KEYWORDS Trump China summit, Xi Jinping trade deal, Trump oil strategy, China Iran alliance, Boeing China deal, Trump foreign policy, U.S. China tensions, Chinese farmland America, Trump energy policy, Iran oil sanctions, Sean Hannity Trump interview, China trade war, Trump Xi meeting, global oil politics, South Carolina legislature pay raise THUMBNAIL TEXT TRUMP'S CHINA GAMBLE YOUTUBE DESCRIPTION President Trump's latest meeting with Xi Jinping is raising eyebrows across the political world. Publicly, Trump is praising China and pushing massive trade and oil deals. Privately? Reports say staffers used burner phones, swept Air Force One for surveillance devices, and discarded everything handed out by Chinese officials. In this episode, Tara dives into: Trump's strategy with China The real stakes behind oil and trade negotiations Iran, Russia, and global energy leverage Why conservatives are divided over Trump's rhetoric Claims involving election interference and national security The hidden geopolitical battle shaping America's future Is Trump setting up the ultimate economic power play — or walking into a dangerous trap? CHAPTERS 00:00 Trump's China Summit Explained 03:41 Massive Trade Promises & Boeing Skepticism 08:17 Burner Phones & Secret Security Measures 13:42 China, Iran & Global Oil Control 19:28 Trump's Comments on Chinese Students Spark Backlash 25:51 The Real Strategy Behind the Deal 32:40 China's Oil Dependence & U.S. Leverage 39:14 Political Fallout & Conservative Reactions 45:33 South Carolina Legislature Controversy SOCIAL MEDIA POST

Here's a question for you: how badly did we get ripped off if it's true we paid $3 million to get Robbie Williams here? Now, we don't know for sure that's the amount the Government paid out of the Major Events Fund, but that is what Auckland Mayor Wayne Brown has revealed in a fit of pique at the Government. And so far, nobody's publicly denied it - not even Louise Upston, who's the minister in charge of the money. Privately, we at the show have had at least one, what I would call, soft confirmation that the amount is correct. Now, if that's true, $3 million for - as Wayne Brown calls him - a “tattooed Pom” is too much money. We're wasting taxpayer money here, for a start. As excited as I personally am to be going to Robbie's concert in November, I don't think a 1990s pop star is what we imagined the Major Events Fund would be used for when it was set up after we missed out on Taylor Swift, Oasis and Lady Gaga. I mean, two in that list are proper A-list stars and one is a massively overdue reunion - a completely different league to Robbie. An offshore promoter thought $3 million is way too much to pay for Robbie. Singapore - this will put it in perspective for you - reportedly paid $3 million for six Taylor Swift concerts two years ago. Now, if $3 million buys you six Tay-Tays, how did we end up blowing $3 million on only one Robbie? We've been ripped off, good and proper. And the proof is in the fact that the tickets are apparently not selling very well. But then again - and bear this in mind - maybe this is just what we need to get used to and stop fighting. Robbie and Linkin Park may well be the best New Zealand can do now. Big stars like Lady Gaga, Oasis, Tay-Tay and Harry Styles are going to go to Australia, not here, and they're going to expect us to come to them - and we will. I'm flying to Harry Styles. I flew to Oasis. Heaps of people flew to Tay-Tay. That's how it works now. And if we want a former boy band member who peaked in the '90s to come to New Zealand, we are simply going to have to pay a lot of money for him. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

A new MP3 sermon from Christ Church Presbyterian is now available on SermonAudio with the following details: Title: Chapter 4 - Pray Privately Subtitle: A Healthy Prayer Life Together Speaker: John Blevins III Broadcaster: Christ Church Presbyterian Event: Miscellaneous Date: 5/9/2026 Bible: Matthew 6:5-6 Length: 13 min.

The Lazuli Space Telescope is slated to be the first of its kind to be completely funded by private dollars. University of Arizona planetary scientist Ewan Douglas discusses the spacecraft designed to be larger than the Hubble Space Telescope, which was launched in 1990. Ewan Douglas spoke with Tim Swindle, professor emeritus of Planetary Science at the University of Arizona.

A 1999 child-protection campaign linked to the National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children brought Prince Andrew and Peter Mandelson together at a high-profile event focused on safeguarding vulnerable children. Both men were publicly positioned as advocates against abuse, aligning themselves with efforts to protect minors. Within a short period after that introduction, however, both were photographed socializing with Jeffrey Epstein, creating a stark contrast between their public roles and their private associations.That overlap has since drawn criticism, with individuals connected to the campaign expressing regret about facilitating the connection and acknowledging how it intersected with Epstein's wider network. The situation highlights how Epstein was able to operate within elite circles that included political figures and royalty, even as those same figures were publicly tied to causes meant to combat the kind of abuse he was accused of. Both Andrew and Mandelson have denied wrongdoing, but the timing and proximity of these relationships continue to raise questions about judgment and why those associations were not immediately severed.to contact me:bobbycapucci@protonmail.comsource:New picture shows disgraced Andrew with Mandelson at kids charity event weeks after 'meeting for first time'

A 1999 child-protection campaign linked to the National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children brought Prince Andrew and Peter Mandelson together at a high-profile event focused on safeguarding vulnerable children. Both men were publicly positioned as advocates against abuse, aligning themselves with efforts to protect minors. Within a short period after that introduction, however, both were photographed socializing with Jeffrey Epstein, creating a stark contrast between their public roles and their private associations.That overlap has since drawn criticism, with individuals connected to the campaign expressing regret about facilitating the connection and acknowledging how it intersected with Epstein's wider network. The situation highlights how Epstein was able to operate within elite circles that included political figures and royalty, even as those same figures were publicly tied to causes meant to combat the kind of abuse he was accused of. Both Andrew and Mandelson have denied wrongdoing, but the timing and proximity of these relationships continue to raise questions about judgment and why those associations were not immediately severed.to contact me:bobbycapucci@protonmail.comsource:New picture shows disgraced Andrew with Mandelson at kids charity event weeks after 'meeting for first time'Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-epstein-chronicles--5003294/support.

Michael Jackson's Chimp Bubbles New Life Revealed: Ultra-Famous Monkey, Now 43, Living 'Privately' After Retiring From Show Biz - As He's Portrayed by CGI in King of Pop's Critically Trashed BiopicAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

This week, I'm joined by Alexa Roetger, better known to many as Nurse Lex — founder of Aestheticá Byron Bay, registered nurse, skin expert, and one of those rare women whose work is deeply grounded in both science and soul. Publicly, she's built a respected Byron Bay clinic known for its holistic, less-is-more approach to skin. Privately, her story is one of resilience, reinvention, grief, motherhood, and learning to trust her own philosophy in an industry obsessed with trends. (Aestheticá, Byron Bay)In this conversation, Lex shares how she went from working in high-pressure clinical nursing to creating a business that helps women feel more at home in themselves — not more “perfect”, just more aligned. We talk about the emotional side of aesthetics, the moment your reflection no longer feels like you, and why so many women aren't really chasing youth at all, but recognition.We also go deeper into the realities of building a business while becoming a mother, the quiet power of word of mouth, and the grief that can reshape how you see women's health, hormones, ageing and care. It's a conversation about skin, yes — but also identity, intuition, and what it means to support women honestly.In this episode, we explore:Lex's path from nursing into aesthetic medicineThe surprise motherhood story that unfolded while she was building her clinicWhy she believes skin health should come before trendsHer thoughts on barrier repair, regenerative treatments and respecting the skinThe emotional impact of perimenopause, menopause and not recognising yourself in the mirrorWhy the best practitioners aren't always the loudest onlineWhat it takes to grow a trusted business through integrity and reputationYou'll come away with a deeper understanding of skin, but also a deeper compassion for yourself — especially if you've ever felt like your outer self stopped matching the person you know you still are inside.If you loved this episode, I'd be so grateful if you left a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. It helps us reach more women who need these conversations.A special thank you to @pulsetto.tech, our season sponsor. Use BEAUTICATE for 15% off at pulsetto.tech

US President Donald Trump said the ceasefire with Iran ends “Wednesday evening Washington time,” adding it's “highly unlikely” he would extend it if a deal is not reached before then. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Wisden Cricket Weekly podcast gives a peep behind the Patreon curtain for a special episode on the state of state school cricket in the UK. A report released by the Sutton Trust earlier this year highlighted male pro cricketers to be 59% privately educated, and Yas sits down with journalist Cameron Ponsonby to unpack things a little more, before speaking to Saj Mahmood on the Knight-Stokes Cup & the launch of cricket equipment company Reeqip. 0:00 Intro //1:30 Cameron Ponsonby unpacks his research//38:45 Saj Mahmood on the Knight-Stokes Cup & Reeqip//50:48Outro

AP correspondent Charles de Ledesma reports on a tour of Australian locations by the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, Harry and Meghan.

04-12-26 Ken Forrest " Confessing to God Privately"

Will Attorney General Pam Bondi be the next person in the Trump administration to go? AP correspondent Donna Warder reports.

Financial sovereignty is no longer optional. In this episode of the Live Free Now Show, I'm joined by Quinten van Welzen (Mr. Kwibs), a longtime crypto veteran who has been in the space since 2017 and now leads marketing and growth for Zano. We dive deep into Zano — a powerful, privacy-focused cryptocurrency designed for real-world use — and why tools like this are becoming essential as the financial control grid continues to expand. Zano allows users to create and transact with fully private tokens, including stablecoins like Freedom Dollar, while also enabling Bitcoin holders to bridge into a private environment using BTCX. Zano enables you to control your money, your transactions, and your financial future. In this episode, we cover: -What makes Zano different from other cryptocurrencies -How private tokens and stablecoins actually work -Using BTC privately with Zano's BTCX bridge -Why financial privacy is critical in today's world -The risks of centralized finance, CBDCs, and surveillance systems -Common objections to privacy coins and how to think through them -How to begin building a sovereign financial strategy   Zano is a community-driven project, not controlled by corporations or centralized entities, and is focused on building real tools for decentralized, private exchange. We're also grateful to the Zano team for sponsoring the Live Free Now Show and supporting education around sovereignty, privacy, and parallel systems. If you're serious about stepping outside the traditional financial system and taking control of your future, this episode is for you. Learn more about Zano: https://zano.org/ 

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The first Judeo-Christian Zionist Congress. Analysis: Calev Myers, Eric Metaxas, Dan Diker, AJ Nolte, Johnnie Moore, Betsy DeVos, Bill Hagerty, Lisa Daftari, Patricia Heaton, John Ondraisik, Aaron Prager, Bill Koenig, Danny Burmawi and Bruce Pearl.

The first Judeo-Christian Zionist Congress. Analysis: Calev Myers, Eric Metaxas, Dan Diker, AJ Nolte, Johnnie Moore, Betsy DeVos, Bill Hagerty, Lisa Daftari, Patricia Heaton, John Ondraisik, Aaron Prager, Bill Koenig, Danny Burmawi and Bruce Pearl.

The first Judeo-Christian Zionist Congress. Analysis: Calev Myers, Eric Metaxas, Dan Diker, AJ Nolte, Johnnie Moore, Betsy DeVos, Bill Hagerty, Lisa Daftari, Patricia Heaton, John Ondraisik, Aaron Prager, Bill Koenig, Danny Burmawi and Bruce Pearl.

The first Judeo-Christian Zionist Congress. Analysis: Calev Myers, Eric Metaxas, Dan Diker, AJ Nolte, Johnnie Moore, Betsy DeVos, Bill Hagerty, Lisa Daftari, Patricia Heaton, John Ondraisik, Aaron Prager, Bill Koenig, Danny Burmawi and Bruce Pearl.

The first Judeo-Christian Zionist Congress. Analysis: Calev Myers, Eric Metaxas, Dan Diker, AJ Nolte, Johnnie Moore, Betsy DeVos, Bill Hagerty, Lisa Daftari, Patricia Heaton, John Ondraisik, Aaron Prager, Bill Koenig, Danny Burmawi and Bruce Pearl.

The first Judeo-Christian Zionist Congress. Analysis: Calev Myers, Eric Metaxas, Dan Diker, AJ Nolte, Johnnie Moore, Betsy DeVos, Bill Hagerty, Lisa Daftari, Patricia Heaton, John Ondraisik, Aaron Prager, Bill Koenig, Danny Burmawi and Bruce Pearl.

The first Judeo-Christian Zionist Congress. Analysis: Calev Myers, Eric Metaxas, Dan Diker, AJ Nolte, Johnnie Moore, Betsy DeVos, Bill Hagerty, Lisa Daftari, Patricia Heaton, John Ondraisik, Aaron Prager, Bill Koenig, Danny Burmawi and Bruce Pearl.

The push to resolve the Department of Homeland Security shutdown through reconciliation is running into a hard reality in the Senate. What looks like a procedural workaround is, in practice, a much narrower path than many Republicans are publicly suggesting.At first glance, the strategy sounds clean. Fund most of DHS through a bipartisan deal, then use reconciliation to push through the rest, specifically ICE funding and pieces of the SAVE Act. No 60-vote threshold. No Democratic buy-in required. Problem solved.But the deeper I look at it, the less I think that path actually works.Politics Politics Politics is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.The issue is the Byrd Rule, which is the guardrail on reconciliation. If it is not directly tied to the budget, meaning spending or revenue, it does not survive. And while ICE funding clearly qualifies, voter ID requirements and proof of citizenship mandates do not neatly fit into that category.That is why there is so little real enthusiasm behind the scenes for this plan. Publicly, it sounds like leverage. Privately, it looks like a stretch.From Trump's perspective, the calculation is straightforward. He wants the SAVE Act, and he wants it tied to reopening DHS. That is the leverage. If Republicans split the two, they lose their biggest bargaining chip.That is why he initially rejected the idea of funding DHS first and handling ICE later. It weakens the negotiating position and turns a must-pass moment into a maybe-pass later.But the pressure is building. TSA lines are growing. The shutdown is visible. And some Republicans want to move on, not because they think they are losing politically, but because this fight is burning time they need for other priorities.A Theoretical WorkaroundThere is, at least in theory, a way to thread this needle.If Republicans paired voter ID requirements with federal funding to provide free identification and proof of citizenship, you could argue that the policy has a direct budgetary impact. That would be the hook to survive reconciliation under the Byrd Rule.It would also undercut one of the central Democratic arguments, that voter ID laws function as a poll tax. If the IDs are free, that argument becomes harder to sustain.But even then, this is not a slam dunk. The Senate parliamentarian has wide discretion, and reconciliation rules have been stretched before, but not without limits.So where does that leave things?In my view, reconciliation is less of a solution and more of a talking point right now. It gives Republicans a way to signal that they have a plan to get everything they want. But the actual mechanics of the Senate make that plan far more difficult to execute than it sounds.Which means we are likely headed back to the same place most shutdown fights end: a negotiated deal that neither side fully likes, followed by both sides claiming victory.Because for all the talk of procedural maneuvers and legislative strategy, the simplest truth still applies.At some point, the government has to reopen.Chapters00:00:00 - Intro00:02:00 - DHS, SAVE Act, and Reconciliation00:14:05 - Oklahoma Senate Seat00:15:50 - Iran War Negotiations00:23:53 - Georgia's Daylight Saving Time Bill00:26:10 - Interview with Juliegrace Brufke01:01:14 - Wrap-up This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.politicspoliticspolitics.com/subscribe

In Episode 69, Amy Smith sits down with longtime foster and adoptive mom Crystal Dukes for a heartfelt conversation about the real purpose of foster care: reunification. Crystal shares her family's journey fostering more than 30 children, adopting through both private adoption and foster care, and developing deep, lasting relationships with biological families. This episode offers a candid, uplifting look at what it truly means to support reunification even when it’s challenging, emotional, and full of unknowns. What We Discuss • Why reunification is the primary goal of foster care • Crystal's early experiences as a new foster parent and the mindset shift she had to make • The story of two young brothers placed in her home and how their mother's gratitude changed everything • Navigating a Safe Haven baby placement and ultimately adopting her youngest son • Maintaining meaningful relationships with biological families long after reunification • The emotional complexity of children moving between homes • How foster families can cheerlead, support, and build trust with parents • A multi‑year case that transformed into a true village of caregivers • Advice for new or prospective foster parents • Why openness, compassion, and connection benefit everyone involved Key Takeaways • Foster care works best when caregivers approach it as a team effort with biological families. • Kids thrive when they can remain connected to parents, grandparents, and others who love them. • Reunification can be challenging but often leads to beautiful, long‑term relationships. • Supporting parents and honoring their role makes the experience healthier for children. • The more people loving a child, the better. Resources Mentioned Learn more about foster care in Utah at: https://www.utahfostercare.org About Our Guest Crystal Dukes is a former foster parent, adoptive mom, and advocate for reunification. Over seven years she and her husband cared for approximately 30 children, building ongoing relationships with many of the families they supported. Her compassionate, connection‑driven approach provides valuable insight for anyone exploring foster care. Listen & Subscribe New episodes of Fostering Conversations are released regularly. Subscribe on your favorite podcast platform so you never miss a conversation that matters. Transcript: Speaker: On today’s episode, we’ll be talking to a former foster adoptive mom about reunification. The entire goal of foster care is to reunify the kids in our home join us. Amy: Welcome to Fostering Conversations. I’m your host, Amy Smith. Today we have Crystal Dukes, who is a foster and adoptive mom, and we are so glad to chat with her today. Thanks for being here, Crystal. Crystal: Thank you so much for having me. Amy: So we wanna just start off by letting our audience know who you are. So tell us a little bit about yourself. my name’s Crystal Jewkes like Amy said, and,My husband and I have been married for 27 years, and we have four kids of our own. We’ve had about 30 kids in and out of our homes, many of which we’re still, in contact with in one way or another. and it’s been a while. we were foster parents for seven years. our older kids actually are adopted and that’s what put got us, interested in foster care is to it, to go that route. Okay. Yeah. So you guys had adopted domestically or internationally? Privately, essentially. And then did foster care Crystal: an agency here. Yep. Amy: Okay. Okay, cool. So you’ve experienced both situations of adoption. That’s awesome. That’s really neat. So today’s podcast, we wanna focus on reunification. So we’ll start with that. The goal of foster care is to reunify these kids, right? We want them to go home, but what has your experience been while working towards reunification with the kids that have come through your home? Crystal: I actually absolutely love this topic because, we have to go into it that way, or it’s, makes it so much harder. And for everyone. And that is the number one most important thing, whether you’re open to adopting or just fostering, that is absolutely so important to understand. especially anyone who’s listening who is just interested in foster care, that’s the biggest thing. but to be honest, we got into it to adopt Amy: Yeah, which a lot of families do. Crystal: To be honest,we were newbies. We didn’t really know what we were. Doing, and we wanted more kids and wanted to adopt more kids. And we thought that, foster care would be a good way to do that. And so we were quickly told, that’s not what this is for. and Amy: Right. I said, okay. I said, okay, we’ll see. Yeah. Crystal: and we got a call fairly quickly about a week after, and, And asked if we would take two little boys, and they were ages three and four and barely three. He had just barely turned three. And so really it was, they were quite young. And they came and dropped him off at our house with a can of seven up in their hands with nothing else. And, but they were fine. They were. Came in and we went to a baseball game of my son’s that night, and I just getting to know ’em and feeding them and, it seemed like a play date for them, I think at Amy: Yeah. Crystal: and then we started really figuring things out and, That was a really, it was a tough time because they were adorable little boys, but they were really hard little boys. However, that first week, When we were gonna have a quick meeting with the, their mom and she was gonna have a visit. I took them to the store and I said, okay, pick your mom’s favorite drink and then pick your mom’s favorite candy bar. And so they picked something pink andI’m like, they told me it was your favorite. And Amy: Yeah, exactly. Crystal: But the moment, I was a little nervous. I didn’t know what I was gonna see on the other side of the door, and we walked in and she immediately got up and gave me a hug and said, thank you so much for taking care of my babies. and we, so we had brought her little gifts and I had brought her all the pictures I had taken and I had, had ’em, made them a little book for her so that she had some pictures of what we did that week, whether it was going to get an ice cream cone at McDonald’s or playing in the backyard or whatever. And just so she could see that they were being taken care of. Amy: And she, to this day, 13, 14 years later, she still tells that story and she te still tells me how grateful she was. and it really did break the ice for us. Crystal: made me instantly love her Amy: Yeah. Crystal: and it made me instantly Amy: And humanize her that these really are her kids. Crystal: they’re her, kids. Yes. And humanize her and be a cheerleader for her. So from then on we were. We actually grew quite close the whole time. with good boundaries, we were all safe. She did have a pretty good support system, with her family. But it had gotten to the point where we can’t save you anymore. You’ve gotta, hurt a little bit so your kids are going to foster care. Amy: Yeah. Crystal: and so we had them for nine months. And during that nine month or six, in six months into the nine months, we got another call. And this one was for, a Safe Haven baby that it was the first in 25 years Amy: Yeah. That’s very Crystal: in the county. And so everyone was standing around going, we don’t know what to do. Amy: Right? Crystal: And so they knew I was after that and our caseworker called and said, there’s a baby that’s been dropped off. And Amy: Wow. Crystal: so we, it was the day after Christmas actually, Amy: Oh wow. Crystal: and we went and we picked him up and he was totally healthy and. Great. and we adopted him. So he stayed with us and we don’t really know anything about his parentage or anything, but, we’ve done the DNA stuff and nothing yet, but we’ll Amy: yeah. Wow, that’s interesting. Crystal: So these cute little boys that we had, they, they still view him as their little brother because he Amy: I love that. Yes, Crystal: they were there. So it was cute. Amy: adorable. Crystal: It was really cute when they were there, but, I was so grateful for that experience because we were in it to foster, to adopt and be done. And after the fact, it was a wonderful reunion. the day they were, in fact, actually. I think this week is their anniversary of going home and after nine months they were, they went home in March and that court day was really special and she was so grateful. Amy: By the end she was having Sunday dinner with us I love that. Crystal: and and to this day we still have girls’ nights and her sisters and her and me, we go out and have dinner. Amy: That’s so awesome. Crystal: We see the boys every once in a while, but they’re, they, one of them just graduated. The other one is getting ready to graduate from high school. And so it’s, it was a really hard and great experience and I learned so much from her and what, my part really was in being a foster parent. And so after it was all over and we were like. we’re not ready to be done because we still love you and you still love us, so we’re gonna, Amy: Keep going. Crystal: have some, at least some communication and contact. But after my husband and I were talking and we were like, are we done? And after and after we adopted the baby, my youngest, we thought maybe we’d be done. And we’re like, it was such an amazing. Miraculous experience to be a part of putting another family, supporting and helping put another family back together that we decided to stay. we kept going and we did a lot of crisis and respite from then on. But,it’s so weird how this timing has happened because. Just the other night. we had a set of twins that were, a few months older than my youngest and they came to us when they were two. So I had like triplets, Amy: Yeah. That sounds intense. Crystal: killed me. I’m not gonna lie. Amy: Yeah. Crystal: But to be honest, and here’s a plug for those that, are looking into this, is they’re like, this birth mother really needed you. Or, this, I don’t even, it seems wrong to even call them a birth mother. Their mom really needed you, to believe in her. She needed someone to believe in because they were in a placement where. It wasn’t necessarily a great match. And so they came to us for a summer before their parents got them back, and now they’re 14 years old and she has a third child and divorced. So she’s bi, she’s single with three kids, but she had moved away,someplace in the Midwest. And so I lost track of her, but when she was still here. they, I knew where they lived and would go to the grocery store and just buy a bag of popsicles and drop ’em off on my way home just to still support just a little bit. ’cause it, it was a struggle there. There’s a reason why kids are taken, because it was a struggle. She still needed some support. But, just recently, I found her just before Christmas. I found her. She’s in Amy: Oh, wow. Crystal: Arkansas. And so I had sent them all a outfit, and her an outfit. She texted me a couple nights ago and thanked me. So all this, it’s weird that all this is happening at the same time and doing this five. Amy: it’s fun though to remember the stories of the things that have happened. I just, I think, so I don’t, you probably don’t know this, but I also am a foster adoptive mom and have reunified kids, and I was the opposite. I was like, I’ll do foster care as long as they all go home. I didn’t all go home, so love them, but they didn’t all go home. but I just love the aspect and the thought process like that You are their support system. I am constantly telling people the reason why we have foster care and why kids get dropped off at all hours of the day at strangers’ homes is because they, their parent doesn’t have anybody. There is nobody safe or secure that those kids can go to. So CPS brings them to a stranger, a foster home. That is just mind boggling to Crystal: it it really is. Amy: Yeah. and I can’t get over it even though I’ve had so many kids come through my home and I’ve met many parents and reunified and adopted and all the things, but it’s just like these people don’t have anybody. And so that foster family can become somebody that supports Crystal: Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. our, current situation is we are not, with work and other kids and growing up we just. We weren’t able to, continue to foster, but there was one that we kept renewing for. Amy: Yeah. Crystal: ’cause she came to our house when she was 18 months her first time, and then they went back to parents and then came back three months later and then went to a kinship home, and she just was failing to thrive. And she came back and,we were on track to act, to adopt her. So she’s a few months younger than our youngest. Amy: Okay. Crystal: And we went through, COVID the whole bit, and it just got to a point where parents weren’t, they’d be successful for a minute and then not. And Amy: which is very common. Crystal: yeah. And yet her parents love her. Her parents love her and she loves them, but she’s old enough now to just realize and , it got really difficult and, and, my kids saw the stress that was on me and the attention that was taken from them it was rough. And, the back and forth that foster kids go through when they’re visiting a parent for a weekend, then coming back. they can leave an angel and come back the devil, Amy: Yeah. Crystal: just, Amy: It’s a good way of putting it. Crystal: it’s because they’re just confused and it’s hard. and I just, it was one of those things that. We called on the higher power and was just like, we don’t really know what to do. And it was really quite miraculous how it turned out because in my mind I thought someone has to lose. Not everyone can win in this situation. either dad’s going to lose her forever, never see her again. Grandma, she’ll never see her grandma. She’ll lose her dad, or I’ll never see her again. And at this point, and in those formative years, she is quite bonded to me and our family. And she, to this day, it’s, she does Your home is home and there’s some other,another foster family involved as well. and she lives with grandma. But, But it was really miraculous how it turned out, and it did take some begging on my part to say, please let her live with her grandma. Amy: Wow, that’s unusual. Crystal: I promise you, I will. I promise you I will stay around. I just, I can’t sacrifice my own children at the moment. And that’s, that was the reality of it, as hard as that is for me to say. and so we all work together. it’s the team and her grandma and I are great friends and her dad and I are friends and with our family and Amy: it’s working, Crystal: it’s working pretty well and. There may be a time where she’s with us more, but right now it works. It works well. But at the time I was really, and even our caseworkers to this day are like, I cannot believe Amy: Yeah. That’s unusual. Crystal: when we were going, when we were going through it, they were like, this is the craziest case we’ve ever had. and even, and then I run into ’em now and they’re like, amazing. Amy: yeah. I love. Crystal: so grateful. Amy: Yes, absolutely. And I love that you said, like somebody had to lose, but ultimately they didn’t. Like everybody is getting to be a part of her life and you are getting to be with your family. The grandma’s getting to raise her, hopefully the dad is still being able to see her. that’s a win for everybody, which is incredible. I love that. Crystal: it really is. and sometimes that’s hard to accept because she’s gonna be. Most provided for, and in, in certain, in a certain situation. but that’s not all of it. There’s so much more to, there’s still some pretty hard days and, even though she’s older, there’s still hard days when she comes back Amy: Right. Crystal: from her dad’s and sometimes, we ha we have hard conversations and. Amy: Yeah. Crystal: she starts to understand stuff and it’s helpful, but, I’m forever grateful that we’re all friends now. It wasn’t always like that. I, I, used to be the devil to them, Amy: Crystal: but we all, they’re, they are, very thankful. That, that we’re still around, and so it’s working well. Amy: yeah. I think it’s really important to realize, if prospective foster parents are listening that like you say, sure, maybe I can provide a nicer house and maybe I can feed them whatever the heck they Crystal: Paper, Amy: of. Yes. Pay Crystal: all stuff. Amy: Yes. Yes, exactly. But that’s not everything. Part of a lot of it is that they deserve and they want to be with their mom and dad or with their grandma, whoever they can be with. But I’ve seen that with my adopted kids. We have a really good relationship with one of our bio moms and. My daughter’s five and she will sometimes say, why can’t I live with mama so-and-so?and I’m just like, yeah, I’m so sorry. And she’s doing great now, if the circumstances were different, they’d be different, but they weren’t back then. And kids want to be with those biological ties, want to be with those people that they grew up with and look like and love. And I think that’s really, can be really hard to understand as a foster family because we think, I have this, and this to offer them. Crystal: We can never offer them that biology or that instinctual innate bonding love. Amy: Yes, we can love the heck out of ’em, but it’s different. Crystal: Yeah, and I’m really grateful that I had. Adopted kids with very healthy, relationships with biological mothers and fathers and families, we’re actually quite close. And so it helped me understand that a little bit sooner, I think. As long as they’re healthy and the child is safe, they’re, I promise you, it’s worth it. It’s worth hanging onto that relationship. It’s never worth. Cutting it off because it will come back sometime. It might even be in adulthood, but it will come back and it will be a big issue. And this way she knows we’re all transparent. She knows, I’ll ask her about her dad and how her visit was, she could tell me, things like that. So yeah, it’s. Amy: better place for kids to have, in their families to be able to say, I miss Mama some, whoever, and I miss this person. And for us parents to say. It’s okay. Like I’m sorry, you do deserve to get to be with them, but because of life you don’t like, I would rather our kids be able to say those things than to, go into adulthood and find them selves in a not healthy situation, So I think we can provide that safety to our adoptive children. And I have an adopted child who we don’t have a relationship. The mom completely fell off and. I don’t know. Like I reach out every few months in hopes that I’ll get a response, but I don’t, And so that happens too. And it’s unfortunate, but that’s how it is. Crystal: And I think it’s also important to say that doesn’t mean the birth parent doesn’t love their kid. they’ve probably come to a reality that they’re not Amy: In a good place. Crystal: a good place and they don’t wanna mess things up or bother anything. and that’s how one of the, our birth mothers are, is they just don’t wanna, mess things up. And so they don’t, and it’s fine, but we still buy Christmas presents for. From her and, we still do her shopping and we, little things like that. and it’s also interesting because now that, now that, she’s older, our foster child is older, and, for all intents and purposes at this point, we’re just great family friends on the, on paper. But she views me as mom and I. That’s great and she also talks about her other mom, so Amy: Which is great. some kids do have multiple moms, multiple dads, and that’s okay. Crystal: And there was a point where, we really did need some help. And so we’ve, we had another foster family and that other foster family and us were best of friends. And it, this has really turned into a village and she knows, the other foster mom and I, we both go to parent teacher conference and we both, I don’t know how many of you have experienced this who are foster parents, but food always seems to be an issue. And they are hoarding food and always wanting food and always checking to make sure there is food. And so I first thing out of her mouth when I pick her up is, what are we having for dinner? What’s for dinner? First thing, and then first thing is she walks in the house, is opens the fridge or opens the pantry. And so it was actually starting to drive me crazy and that’s my problem. But so did, Amy: I feel that, Crystal: I did want her to understand something and I said, there were some times, that your dad didn’t have food. Or your mom didn’t have food and you suffered for it. And so psychologically you suffer from that a little bit. So I’m telling you this, not because I’m telling you not to open the fridge, but I’m telling you that they have some psychological stuff there. that happens. And so we do have those hard conversations and I always make sure I tell her, your parents, love you. They’ve always loved you, but at times they didn’t have food to feed themselves and couldn’t feed you. And so it’s affected you that way. And, making sure that they always know that their, parents love them is really important. Amy: Yeah, I agree with that. That’s awesome. these podcasts always go by really fast, but if there was anything that you could. Advise or recommend to anybody that’s considering foster care? What would be something that you would say that you’ve learned that you would’ve loved to know at the beginning or something like that? Crystal: With my experience, our experience, I wouldn’t trade any of it. we’ve learned so much. But number one is, as a foster parent, our job is to be the biggest cheerleader we can be for the parents to get their kids back if it’s possible. and if it’s not possible, you can still love them. You can still support him Amy: Yeah. And hopefully have a relationship if that Crystal: and have a relationship. Absolutely. the other thing, if you’re new into foster care or if you are, seeking something, it’s okay. We were to, and we were blessed with the miracle and,the crazy thing the week that. We were called about our son, being a safe haven baby. Those of you who aren’t quite sure, that means that he was dropped off at the hospital, no questions asked, walked in, left at the emergency, and walked out. There were two babies in Texas that were found in the trash can that same week, but thankfully they were, being, the dogs were being walked and found them before they died. Amy: Oh wow. Crystal: So they did live, Amy: Yeah. Crystal: but just thinking about that and thinking that could have been my son, just, I can’t even, I can’t even think about that. The other thing is about that particular situation. I remember I had taken him to the doctor just as a baby checkup and and. I loved our doctor. Great. Raised all my kids. And, he said, I remember him saying, how do they, how do people do that? How do I can’t believe birth mother or, mothers would do that? And I immediately said, thank goodness they did. Amy: Yes, I Crystal: Thank goodness they did. Amy: And I, he immediately realized what he had said. And, Yeah. Yeah. Crystal: so that kinda stuff goes through foster care as well. and to the, families out there who maybe have had kids go to foster care, this, it is a safe place. Hopefully, hopefully, you can trust it and,and not everybody’s perfect by any means, but, the goal should be getting him back. No matter how much you love them, and if you really love them, do that and keep a connection with them. The more people that love a kid, the better, and I learned that through adoption. There’s no reason to cut off birth. Mothers who place their babies for adoption is the more people that love somebody, the better that person is, Amy: Yeah. I totally agree. Yeah. thank you so much for sharing your experiences and your passion for reunification. I also have a passion for reunification. and I agree. It’s such an experience to get to. Stay connected with those kids that have been with you and to also see those parents succeed. I think that’s pretty incredible to get to see a parent in their lowest of lows and then do everything they can to get their kid back and get their kid back. Like what an awesome thing to get to be a part of as a foster family. so yes. So thank you so much for sharing your time and experience with us, and we Crystal: My pleasure. Amy: it. Crystal: My pleasure. Thank you so much for having me. Amy: Yes. Thanks for joining us for fostering Conversations. To learn more about foster care, go to www.utahfostercare.org.

Look, I know we're all going to have different points at which we think the media reaction to a news story gets silly but for me, that point was this morning. Members of the media chasing the Prime Minister through Wellington Airport, asking whether he was considering resigning and whether he had the full support of his caucus seemed a little bit silly to me. Silly because it's not as if he's gone to ground for the past four days, is it? He was on morning media today - two radio interviews and at least one TV appearance - and he's also fronted a post-Cabinet news conference. So it's not as though the media are starved of opportunities to talk to the Prime Minister without chasing him through a crowded terminal. All it does is create the impression of drama where no real drama exists. There is no coup. All of his ministers are backing him publicly. Privately, sure, maybe a little less so - but publicly, they are. Luxon remains the leader until he is talked out of being the leader and there's no sign that's happening. In short, nothing is happening in the short term. Now, if I try to understand why the media wanted to chase him through the airport, perhaps it's because they sense things have shifted - and that part is true. Since the poll on Friday morning that put National at 28 percent, two things have changed. First, ministers who previously gave complete backing to Luxon are now doing so privately with a caveat: “Yeah, I support him… but.” But he's bad at taking advice, but he made a bad call with XYZ. Whatever the specifics, the point is the same: they've dropped their full confidence. That tells me something is going on in their heads. Second, he has now entered what I'd describe as publicly “dead man walking” territory. Every bad poll from here, every major mistake - and there will be some - will reignite talk about his leadership. That is a slow bleed for any leader. It ends one of two ways - a spanking on election day, or the leader eventually calling it quits. I think he's now in that zone. I don't think the coalition loses the election at this rate, but I do think National comes back as a mini version of itself - and that's not great for them. Maybe that electoral prognosis is what has the media so excited that they're chasing him through the airport. But that's a medium-term issue. Today? I think the brief excitement of the weekend is over and nothing is going to happen. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The Cold Murder of His Father: Do You Have Information? A Case That Still Haunts Los Angeles, California. More than a decade later, the killing of Joseph Gatto remains one of Los Angeles' most haunting unsolved crimes. The Home Invasion that took his life did not just devastate a Family, it reshaped the inner world of his son, former California lawmaker Mike Gatto, and pulled him into a dark, unresolved mystery that continues to demand answers. The Law Enforcement Talk Radio Show and Podcast social media like their Facebook , Instagram , LinkedIn , Medium and other social media platforms. Joseph Gatto was 78 years old, strong, active, and deeply woven into the fabric of his community. Friends believed he would live to be 100. Instead, he died 22 years too soon. Check out his Podcast appearance, and content shared for free on the Law Enforcement Talk Radio Show and Podcast website, also on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube and most major podcast platforms. On November 12, 2013, Joseph Gatto was shot inside his Silver Lake Home, a neighborhood often described as one of the safest and most culturally vibrant areas of Los Angeles. The following day, his daughter, arrived for their weekly dinner and made a discovery no family should ever have to endure. After calling out his name, she found her father slumped over his desk on the third floor, dead from a gunshot wound to the abdomen. Supporting articles about this and much more from Law Enforcement Talk Radio Show and Podcast in platforms like Medium , Blogspot and Linkedin . Silver Lake, once described by Forbes as the “hippest” neighborhood in Los Angeles, is known for its art culture, creativity, and sense of community. Joseph loved it there. A retired art teacher, he had spent decades giving back, teaching high school and college students, selling concessions at Dodger Stadium at night, and creating art as a jewelry maker and author. 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For more than a decade, Kate Seselja lived a double life. Outwardly, she was a well-spoken suburban mum raising six children. Privately, she was trapped in a devastating poker machine addiction that would cost her more than $500,000, push her family into overwhelming debt, and bring her to the brink of suicide. In this deeply confronting episode, Kate takes us back to the years when gambling consumed her life — the highs of winning, the crushing shame of losing, the secrecy, and the relentless hope that the next spin would fix everything. She reflects on how poker machines are designed to hijack the brain, why addiction thrives in silence, and how stigma keeps people trapped for far too long. Kate also speaks candidly about her rock-bottom moment while pregnant with her sixth child, what stopped her from ending her life, and the long road to recovery that followed. Now an advocate and founder of The Hope Project, she dedicates her life to helping others understand gambling harm as a public health issue and not a personal failure. This episode is a powerful reminder that gambling addiction doesn’t look the way we expect it to and that it can happen to anyone. If this episode brings up anything for you, support is available. You can contact Lifeline on 13 11 14. Kate Seselja, along with at GHLEE (Gambling Harm Lived Experience Experts) are calling for each state and territory to enforce loss limits on poker machines of $100 per day, $500 per month, and $5000 per year. This simple act will literally save lives. You can find out more information and sign their petition here. CREDITS: Guest: Kate Seselja Host: Kate Langbroek Group Executive Producer: Naima Brown Executive Producer: Bree Player Audio Producer: Jacob Round Video Producer: Josh Green Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The U.S. Department of Justice is now operating under a level of scrutiny it has never faced in the Jeffrey Epstein matter, forced by newly enacted transparency laws to disclose records it spent years sealing, slow-walking, or shielding under claims of prosecutorial discretion and victim privacy. Publicly, DOJ insists it is complying in good faith—releasing documents in phases, redacting sensitive material, and coordinating with courts to avoid prejudicing ongoing matters. Privately, the department is clearly trying to manage exposure, balancing legal compliance against the institutional risk of revealing how aggressively—or passively—it handled Epstein and his network over decades. The result is a calibrated drip of information that technically satisfies statutory requirements while avoiding a full, unfiltered reckoning with past charging decisions, non-prosecution agreements, and investigative dead ends.That tightrope walk is most obvious in how DOJ frames delays and redactions as necessary safeguards rather than resistance, even as critics argue the law's intent was to end precisely this kind of gatekeeping. By releasing materials without broader narrative context, the department limits immediate legal jeopardy while still appearing responsive to Congress and the public. But the strategy carries risk: each partial disclosure fuels further questions about what remains withheld and why, especially when previously secret decisions appear indefensible in hindsight. In effect, DOJ is complying with the letter of the Epstein transparency laws while testing how much control it can retain over the story—an approach that may keep it legally safe in the short term, but politically and reputationally exposed as more records inevitably come to light.to contact me:bobbycapucci@protonmail.com

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The U.S. Department of Justice is now operating under a level of scrutiny it has never faced in the Jeffrey Epstein matter, forced by newly enacted transparency laws to disclose records it spent years sealing, slow-walking, or shielding under claims of prosecutorial discretion and victim privacy. Publicly, DOJ insists it is complying in good faith—releasing documents in phases, redacting sensitive material, and coordinating with courts to avoid prejudicing ongoing matters. Privately, the department is clearly trying to manage exposure, balancing legal compliance against the institutional risk of revealing how aggressively—or passively—it handled Epstein and his network over decades. The result is a calibrated drip of information that technically satisfies statutory requirements while avoiding a full, unfiltered reckoning with past charging decisions, non-prosecution agreements, and investigative dead ends.That tightrope walk is most obvious in how DOJ frames delays and redactions as necessary safeguards rather than resistance, even as critics argue the law's intent was to end precisely this kind of gatekeeping. By releasing materials without broader narrative context, the department limits immediate legal jeopardy while still appearing responsive to Congress and the public. But the strategy carries risk: each partial disclosure fuels further questions about what remains withheld and why, especially when previously secret decisions appear indefensible in hindsight. In effect, DOJ is complying with the letter of the Epstein transparency laws while testing how much control it can retain over the story—an approach that may keep it legally safe in the short term, but politically and reputationally exposed as more records inevitably come to light.to contact me:bobbycapucci@protonmail.comBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-epstein-chronicles--5003294/support.

On this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan Greene speaks with Spencer Hilligoss, CEO and co-founder of Madison Investing, about his journey from growing up in a real estate brokerage household to becoming a thoughtful passive investor and investing club leader. Spencer shares how a long career in Silicon Valley tech shaped his approach to risk, cash flow, and long-term financial planning, and why real estate became a critical tool for building stability beyond W-2 income. The conversation explores Spencer's transition from owning rental properties to focusing on limited partner investing, including how capacity, family priorities, and operational realities influenced that shift. Spencer breaks down how he evaluates sponsors, why track record and communication matter more than flashy projections, and what recent market cycles have reinforced about conservative underwriting and disciplined deal selection. Listeners will gain clarity on when passive investing makes sense, how to think about risk and accountability as an LP, and why education and mindset—not deal hype—are the foundation of long-term success. In this episode, you will hear: How growing up in a brokerage family influenced Spencer's investing mindset Why W-2 income alone isn't enough for long-term financial resilience The transition from owning rentals to passive LP investing How to evaluate sponsors, track record, and deal structure Why "passive" investing still requires active due diligence Lessons learned from recent market shifts and recalibrated return expectations Follow and Review If you enjoy the show, please follow Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing on Apple Podcasts and leave a rating and review. It helps other listeners discover these conversations and supports the show's growth. Supporting Resources Connect with Spencer Website: http://www.madisoninvesting.com/  Website: http://www.spencerhilligoss.com/  Twitter: https://x.com/SpenceHilligoss  LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/shilligoss/  Connect with Jonathan: Website - www.streamlined.properties  YouTube - www.youtube.com/c/JonathanGreeneRE/videos  Instagram - www.instagram.com/trustgreene  Instagram - www.instagram.com/streamlinedproperties    Zillow - www.zillow.com/profile/streamlinen​j Bigger Pockets -  www.biggerpockets.com/users/jonathangreene Facebook - www.facebook.com/streamlinedproperties  Email - info@streamlined.properties   This episode was produced by Outlier Audio.

Welcome back to the Ultimate Guide to Partnering® Podcast. AI agents are your next customers. Subscribe to our Newsletter: https://theultimatepartner.com/ebook-subscribe/ Check Out UPX:https://theultimatepartner.com/experience/ Jen Odess, Group Vice President of Partner Excellence at ServiceNow, joins Vince Menzione to discuss the company’s incredible transformation from an IT ticketing solution to a leading AI-native platform for business transformation. Jen dives deep into how ServiceNow has strategically invested in and infused AI into its unified platform over the last decade, enabling over a billion workflows daily. She also outlines the critical role of the partner ecosystem, which executes 87% of all implementations, and reveals the company’s strategic initiatives, including its commitment to the hyperscaler marketplaces, the goal to hit half a billion dollars in annual contract value for its Now Assist AI product, and the push for partners to adopt an ‘AI-native’ methodology to capitalize on the fact that customers still want over 70% of AI buying to be done through partners. Key Takeaways ServiceNow is an ‘AI-native’ company, having invested in and built AI directly into its unified platform for over a decade. The company’s core value today is in its unified AI platform, single data model, and leadership in workflows that connect the entire enterprise. ServiceNow will hit $500 million in annual contract value for its Now Assist AI products by the end of 2025, making it the fastest-growing product in company history. An astonishing 87% of all ServiceNow implementations are done by its global partner ecosystem, highlighting their crucial role. The company is leveraging the half-trillion-dollar opportunity of durable cloud budgets by driving marketplace transactions and helping customers burn down cloud commits using ServiceNow solutions. To win in the AI era, partners must adopt AI internally, co-innovate on the platform, and strategically differentiate themselves to rank higher in the forthcoming agentic matching system. Key Tags: ServiceNow, AI-native platform, Now Assist, Jen Odess, partner excellence, workflow leader, AI platform for business transformation, hyperscalers, Microsoft Azure, Google Cloud, AWS, marketplace transactions, cloud commits, AIDA model, agentic matching, F-Pattern, Z-Pattern, group vice president, MSP, GSI, co-innovation, autonomous implementation, technical constraints, visual hierarchy, UX, UI, responsive design. Ultimate Partner is the independent community for technology leaders navigating the tectonic shifts in cloud, AI, marketplaces, and co-selling. Through live events, UPX membership, advisory, and the Ultimate Guide to Partnering® podcast, we help organizations align with hyperscalers, accelerate growth, and achieve their greatest results through successful partnering. Transcript: Jen Odess Audio Podcast [00:00:00] Jen Odess: The AI platform for business transformation, and I love to say to people, it sounds like a handful of cliche words that just got stacked together. The AI platform for business transformation. Yeah. We all know these words, so many companies use ’em, but it is such deliberate language and I love to explain why. [00:00:20] Vince Menzione: Welcome to, or welcome back to The Ultimate Guide to Partnering. I’m Vince Menzi on your host, and my mission is to help leaders like you achieve your greatest results through successful partnering. Today we have a special leader, Jen Odes is the GVP for Partner Excellence at ServiceNow. And joins me here in the studio in Boca Raton. [00:00:40] Vince Menzione: Jen, welcome to the podcast. Thanks, Vince. It’s so great to be here. I am so thrilled to welcome you. To Boca Raton, Florida. Our podcast home look at this amazing background we have Here is this, and this is where we host our ultimate partner Winter retreat. Actually, in February, we’re gonna give that a plug. [00:00:58] Vince Menzione: Okay. I’d love to have you come back. I’d love to have an invite. And you flew in this morning from Washington DC [00:01:04] Jen Odess: I did. It was 20 degrees when I left my house this morning and this backdrop. Is definitely giving me, island South Florida like vibes. It’s fabulous. [00:01:13] Vince Menzione: And we’re gonna talk about ServiceNow. [00:01:14] Vince Menzione: And you’re also opening an office down here? We [00:01:17] Jen Odess: are [00:01:17] Vince Menzione: in West Palm Beach. Not too far from where we are. Yes. Later 2026. Yeah. I love that. And then so we’ll work on the recruiting year, but let’s dive in. Okay. So thrilled to have ServiceNow and to have you in the room. This has been an incredible time for your organization. [00:01:31] Vince Menzione: I have been watching, obviously I work with Microsoft. We’ve had Google. In the studio, Amazon onboard as well. And other than those three organizations, I can’t think of any other legacy organization that has embraced AI more succinctly than ServiceNow. And I thought we’d start there, but I really wanna spend some time getting to know you and getting to know your role, your mission, and your journey to this incredible. [00:01:57] Vince Menzione: Leadership role as a global vice president. We’ll talk about Or [00:02:01] Jen Odess: group. Group Vice president. I know it doesn’t roll off the tongue. I get it. A group vice president doesn’t roll. [00:02:05] Vince Menzione: G-V-P-G-V-P doesn’t roll off the time. And in some organizations it is global. It is in other organizations, it’s group. So let’s, you’re not [00:02:12] Jen Odess: the first to say global vice president. [00:02:14] Jen Odess: Okay. I’ll take either way. It’s fine. [00:02:15] Vince Menzione: Yeah. Yeah. And might be a promotion. Let’s talk. Let’s talk about that. Let’s talk about you and your career journey and your mission. [00:02:22] Jen Odess: Yeah, so I’ve been at ServiceNow for five years. In fact, January will be like the five year anniversary and then it will be the beginning of my sixth year. [00:02:31] Jen Odess: Amazing. And I actually got hired originally to build out the initial partner enablement function. So it didn’t really exist five years ago. There was certainly enablement that happened to Sure. All individuals that were. Using, consuming, buying ServiceNow, working with ServiceNow. But the partner enablement function from pre to post-sale, that whole life cycle didn’t exist yet. [00:02:54] Jen Odess: So that was my initial job. I got hired to run partner enablement and it before. And how big [00:02:59] Vince Menzione: was your partner organization at that point? It must have been pretty small. [00:03:01] Jen Odess: It was actually not as small as you would think. Gosh, that’s a great question. You’re challenging my memory from five years ago. [00:03:08] Jen Odess: I know that we’re over 2,500 partners today and we add hundreds every year, so it had to have been in the low one thousands. Wow. Is where we were five years ago. But the maturity of the ecosystem is grossly larger today than it was then. I can imagine. So back then there was less than 30,000 individuals that were skilled on ServiceNow to sell or solution or deliver. [00:03:34] Jen Odess: Today there’s almost a hundred thousand. Wow. So yeah that’s like the maturity in the capability within the ecosystem. But before I start on my ServiceNow and my group vice president. Which is a great role, by the way. Group Vice President. Yeah. Partner Excellence group. I’m very proud of it. [00:03:49] Jen Odess: But but let me tell you what brought me here, please. So I actually came from a partner, but not in the ServiceNow ecosystem. Okay. I won’t name the partner, but let’s just say it’s a competitor, a competitive ecosystem. And I worked for a services shop that today I would refer to as multinational. [00:04:11] Jen Odess: Kind of a boutique darling, but with over 1,500 consultants, so Okay. A behemoth as well? Yeah. Privately held. And we were a force to be reckoned with, and it was really fun. I held so many roles. I was a customer success manager. I led the data science practice at one point. I ran global alliances and partnerships. [00:04:35] Jen Odess: At one point I was the chief of staff to the CEO at the time that company was acquired. Big global si. And and then at one point I even spun off for the big global SI and helped run a culture initiative to transform co corporate culture. Wow. Very inside the whole organization. Wow. That is very, yeah. [00:04:54] Jen Odess: Really interesting set of roles. And the whole reason I came to ServiceNow is by the time I was concluding that journey in that ecosystem on the services side, I felt like. I didn’t fully understand what it meant to be on the software product side. And I often felt like I approached friction or moments of frustration and heartache with resentment for the software company. [00:05:20] Jen Odess: Sure. Or maybe just a lack of empathy for what they must be going through as well. It always felt like I was on the kind of [00:05:26] Vince Menzione: negative you were on the other side of the table. Totally. [00:05:27] Jen Odess: Yeah. And, or maybe like the redheaded stepchild kind of a concept as a partner. And so I sought out to. Learn more, which is probably a big piece of my journey is just constant curiosity. [00:05:38] Jen Odess: Nice. And I thought I think the thing I’m missing is seeing what it means firsthand to be on the software product side. And that was what led me to a career at ServiceNow. Five years strong. Yeah. So [00:05:50] Vince Menzione: talk about partner experience for those who don’t know what that means. [00:05:53] Jen Odess: Yeah. Today my role is partner excellence, but it used to be partner experience. [00:05:58] Jen Odess: Okay. And so the don’t. Yeah, that’s normal to say both things. And they actually mean two very different things. [00:06:04] Vince Menzione: Yeah, I would say so. [00:06:05] Jen Odess: And we deliberately changed the title about a year ago. So today, partner Excellence is about really ensuring that we build a vibrant AI led ecosystem. And that’s from the whole life cycle of the partner, from the day they choose to be a partner and onboard, and hopefully to the day they’re just. [00:06:23] Jen Odess: Thriving and growing like crazy, and then across the whole life cycle of the customer pre to post sale. So it’s, we are almost like the underpinning and the infras infrastructure. Someone once said it’s like we’re the insurance policy of all global partnerships and channels. That’s how we operate across global partnerships and channels and service Now. [00:06:42] Vince Menzione: And you have a very intimate relationship with those partners. We’re gonna dive in on that as well. Yes. But let’s talk about this time like no other. I talk about tectonic shifts at all of our events. People that listen to our podcasts know we talk about the acceleration of transformation, and it’s happening so fast. [00:06:58] Vince Menzione: It was happening fast even during COVID. But then. I’ll call this date or time period, the November 20, 22 time period when Chat GPT launched. Oh yeah. And that really changed the world in many respects, right? Yeah. Microsoft had already leaned in with chat, GPT, Google, we talked to Google about this. [00:07:17] Vince Menzione: Even having them in the room was like, they were caught flatfooted in a way, and they had a lot of the technology and they didn’t lean in. But it feels like ServiceNow was one of the first, certainly on the ISV side of the house and refer to the term ISV. Loosely, because hyperscalers are ISVs as well. [00:07:34] Vince Menzione: They were early to lean in and have leaned it in such a way from a business application perspective that I believe we haven’t seen embracing and infusing AI into your platform. I was hoping we could dive in a little bit on ServiceNow from a. Kinda legacy, what the organization was and is today. [00:07:56] Vince Menzione: And then also this infusion of AI into the platform. If you don’t mind, [00:07:59] Jen Odess: I love this topic. Okay. And I feel like it’s such a privilege to talk about ServiceNow on this topic because we really are a leader in the category. I’ll almost rewind back to over 20 years ago when the company was founded. [00:08:11] Jen Odess: Today, fast forward, we are so much more than an IT ticketing company. We are, [00:08:16] Vince Menzione: but that was the legacy. That’s how I knew service now 20 years ago. [00:08:19] Jen Odess: And what a beautiful legacy. Yeah. But we have expanded immensely beyond that. And that’s the beautiful story to tell customers. That’s so fun. [00:08:28] Jen Odess: But what what I love is that. So 20 years ago, that was where we started. And today, do you know that over a billion workflows are put to work every single day for our customers? A billion [00:08:38] Vince Menzione: workflows, over a billion workflows. That’s crazy. [00:08:40] Jen Odess: And 87% of all implementations for ServiceNow were done by partnerships. [00:08:46] Jen Odess: And channels. That’s fantastic. So you think about those billion plus workflows daily, all because of our partner ecosystem. This is my small plug. I’m just very proud 80, proud 86%. [00:08:56] Vince Menzione: Did you hear that? Part’s 86%. [00:08:57] Jen Odess: Amazing. And so that’s like what we’re, that’s what we’re a leader in the category. We are a leader in workflows categorically. [00:09:05] Jen Odess: But then over a decade ago, we started investing in ai. We started building it right into our platform, and this becomes the next kind of notch on our belt, which is we are a unified platform. Nothing is bolted on, nothing is just apid in. Yeah, it is a unified platform. So all of that AI that for the past decade we’ve been building in into our platform. [00:09:28] Jen Odess: Just in our AI platform, which is now what we are calling it, the AI platform. [00:09:34] Vince Menzione: And I would say that unless you were a startup starting up from scratch today and building on an LLM, we were building in a way I don’t think any other organization’s gonna actually state that [00:09:45] Jen Odess: what’s actually why we call ourselves AI native. [00:09:47] Jen Odess: Yeah, beca for that exact reason. And that’s who we’re competing with a lot these days, is the truly AI native startups where they didn’t have, the 20 years. Previously that we had, but that’s what makes us so unique in the situation, is that unified AI platform, a single data model that can connect to anything. [00:10:07] Jen Odess: And then the workflow leader. And when you put all those things together, AI plus data, plus workflows and that’s where the magic happens. Yeah. Across the enterprise. It’s pretty cool. [00:10:17] Vince Menzione: That is very cool. And you start thinking about, and we start talking about agent as a, as an example. Let’s talk about this for a second. [00:10:23] Vince Menzione: You, when what is this bolt-on, we could use the terms co-pilot, we could use Ag Agent ai, but they are generally bolted onto an existing application today. So take us through the 10 years and how it has become a portion or a significant portion. Of ServiceNow. [00:10:41] Jen Odess: When say the question a little bit more. [00:10:43] Jen Odess: Like when you say it’s, yeah, when which examples have bolted on? [00:10:47] Vince Menzione: So exa, we, what we see today is the hyperscalers coming out with their own solution sets, right? They’re taking and they’re offering it up to their ecosystem to infuse it into their product and portfolio. To me, those that look like bolted on in many respects, unless it’s an AI need as a native organization, a startup organization. [00:11:07] Vince Menzione: They’re mostly taking and re-engineering or bolting onto their existing solutions. [00:11:12] Jen Odess: I follow. Yeah. Thank you for giving me a little more context. So I call this our any problem. It’s like one of the best problems to have we can connect into. Anything, any cloud, any ai, any platform, any system, any data, any workflow, and that’s where any hyperscaler, and that’s the part that makes it so incredible. [00:11:32] Jen Odess: So your word is bolt on, and I use the word any the, any problem. Yeah. We’ve got this beautiful kind of stack visual that just, it’s like it just one on top of the other. Any. Any, and no one else can really say that. I gotta see [00:11:45] Vince Menzione: that visual. Yeah. Yeah. So talk about this a little bit more. So you’re uniquely positioned. [00:11:52] Vince Menzione: Let’s talk about how you position, you talked about being AI native. What does that imply and what does that mean in terms of the evolution of the platform? From ticketing to workflows to the business applications? What are the type of applications Yeah. Markets, industries that you’re starting to see. [00:12:08] Jen Odess: So I’ll actually answer this with, taking on a small, maybe marketing or positioning journey. So there was a time when our tagline would be The World Works with ServiceNow. There was a time when it was, we put AI to work for people and today and it, I think it was around Knowledge 2025, this came out. [00:12:28] Jen Odess: It was the AI platform for business transformation. And I love to say to people, it sounds like a handful of. Cliche words that just got stacked together. The AI platform for business transformation. Yeah. We all know these words, so many companies use ’em, but it is such deliberate language and I love to explain why. [00:12:46] Jen Odess: So the first is the AI platform is calling out that we are an AI native platform. We are a unified platform. It’s a chance to say all that goodness I already shared with you. Yeah. And the business transformation is actually telling the story of no longer being a solution. Point or no longer being an individual product that does X. [00:13:06] Jen Odess: It’s about saying. The ServiceNow platform can go north to south and east to west across your entire enterprise. Okay. Up and down the entire tech stack. Any. And then east to west, it can cut across the enterprise, the C-suite, the buying centers, all into one unified AI platform. With one data model. [00:13:26] Jen Odess: I love it. And so I love that AI platform for business transformation actually has so much purpose. [00:13:32] Vince Menzione: It does. So you’re going across the stack, so you’re going all the way from the bottom layer, all the way up to the top from the ue. Ui. And then you’re going across the organization, right? You’re going across the C-suite, you’re going across all the business functions of an organization. [00:13:46] Vince Menzione: Correct. And so the workflows are going across each of those business functions? [00:13:49] Jen Odess: Correct. And then our AI control tower is sitting at the very top, governing over all of it. [00:13:53] Vince Menzione: I love the control tower. [00:13:54] Jen Odess: I know the governance, security risk protocol, managing all the agents interoperability. Yeah. [00:14:01] Vince Menzione: And then data at the very bottom right. [00:14:03] Vince Menzione: Controlling all those elements and the governance of the data and the right, the cleanliness of the data and so on. Yeah. That’s incredible. I we could probably talk about business applications. I know one, in fact, I’ve had a person sit in this, your chair from we’ll call it a large GSIA very significant GSI one of the top five. [00:14:21] Vince Menzione: And they took ServiceNow and they applied it to their business partnering function. And they used, and we, you probably don’t know about this one, but I know that that’s a, an example of taking it and applying it all across all the workflows, across all the geographies of the organization and taking a lot of the process that was all done manually. [00:14:40] Vince Menzione: That was stove pipe business processes that were all stove piped and removing the stove pipe and making for a fluid organizational flow. [00:14:47] Jen Odess: And I’ll bet you the end user didn’t even realize ServiceNow was the backend. That’s some of the greatest examples actually. [00:14:53] Vince Menzione: Yeah. Yeah. So Jen, we work with all the hyperscalers. [00:14:56] Vince Menzione: We have a very strong relationship with Microsoft. Goes back many years, my back to my days at Microsoft and we’ve had Google in the room. We have AWS now as well. We bring them all together because we believe that partners work with, need to work with all three. And I know that you have had an interesting transformation at ServiceNow around the hyperscalers. [00:15:16] Vince Menzione: I was hoping you could dive in a little deeper with us. [00:15:19] Jen Odess: Yeah. We are so proud of our relationships with the hyperscalers, so the same three, so it’s Microsoft Azure, Google Cloud, and AWS. And really it’s it’s a strategic 360 partnership and our goal is really to drive marketplace transactions. [00:15:34] Jen Odess: So ServiceNow selling in all of their marketplaces and then. Burn down of our customers cloud commits. I love it. It’s really a beautiful story for our customers and for the hyperscalers and for ServiceNow. And so we’ve, it’s brand, it’s a brand new announcement from late in the year 2025. Love it. And we’re really excited about it. [00:15:51] Vince Menzione: Yeah. And then we, and we get all of the marketplace leaders in the room. So we’ve worked with all of those people. And one of the key points about this is there is over a half a trillion dollars in durable cloud budgets with customers that [00:16:08] Vince Menzione: Already committed to, I know, so that tam available, a half a trillion dollars is available to customers to burn down and utilize your solutions and professional services with partners as well in terms of driving a complete solution. [00:16:21] Jen Odess: That’s exactly the motion we’re pushing is to go and leverage those cloud commits to get on ServiceNow and in some cases, maybe even take out other products to go with ServiceNow and actually end up funding the transition to ServiceNow. Yeah. Yeah. [00:16:37] Vince Menzione: So you serve thousands of customers today, thousands of customers. [00:16:42] Vince Menzione: I can’t even. Fathom the exact number, but you have this partner ecosystem that you described, and their reach is even more incredible, like hundreds of thousands. Yeah. So tell us a little bit more about how you think about that, and then how do you drive the partner ecosystem in the right way to drive this partner excellence that you described. [00:17:02] Jen Odess: Yeah, that’s a great question. So yeah, thousands of ServiceNow customers and we’re barely scratching the surface in comparison to our partners customers. So we have over 2,500 partners Wow. In our ecosystem. And today they cut across what I would call five routes to market. That partners can go to market with ServiceNow. [00:17:21] Jen Odess: Okay. The first is consulting and implementation. This will be your classic kind of consulting shop or GSI approach. The second is resell, just like it sounds. Yep. [00:17:30] Vince Menzione: Transactional. [00:17:31] Jen Odess: Yep. The third is managed service provider. [00:17:33] Vince Menzione: Okay. [00:17:34] Jen Odess: The fourth is what we call build, which is. The ISV, strategic Tech partner realm, and then the fifth is hyperscaler. [00:17:43] Jen Odess: Those are the five routes to market. So partners can choose to be in one or all or two. It doesn’t matter. It’s whichever one fits the kind of business they want to go drive. Nice. Where they’re. Expertise lies. And then we’ve got partners that show up globally, partners that show up multinational and partners that show up regionally and then partners that show up locally, in country and that’s it. [00:18:06] Jen Odess: And we really want a diverse set of partners capable of delivering where any of our customers are. So it’s important that we have that dynamic ecosystem where we really push them. We’re actually trying hard to balance this. Yeah, you would’ve heard it from many of your other partners. This direct versus indirect. [00:18:24] Jen Odess: Yes. Motion. For anyone listening that doesn’t know the difference, right? Direct is ServiceNow is selling direct to a customer, there might be a partner involved influencing that will implement. Yeah, likely but ServiceNow is really driving the sale versus indirect where the whole thing routes through the partner. [00:18:39] Jen Odess: Right? Which is your classic reseller or managed service provider and often a an ISV. And you know that balance is never gonna be perfect ’cause we’re not gonna commit to go all direct or all indirect. We’re gonna continue to sit in this space where we’re trying to find a healthy balance. [00:18:56] Jen Odess: So I find a lot of our time trying to figure out how do you set all those parties up for success? Yeah. The parties are the ServiceNow field sellers? And then you’ve also got the partnerships and channels, so the ecosystem, and then you’ve got the people in global partnerships and channels. So my broader organization, and we’re all trying to figure out how to work harmoniously together and it’s a lot of, it is my job to get us there. [00:19:19] Jen Odess: And so we use lots of things like incentives and benefits and we will put in place gated entry, really strategic gated entry. What does [00:19:29] Vince Menzione: gated entry mean? [00:19:30] Jen Odess: Yeah. What I mean is if you want to have a chance at being matched with a customer Yeah. For a very specific deal. Or it’s really one of three to get matched. [00:19:41] Jen Odess: ‘Cause you can never match one-to-one. It has to be three or more. Okay. We have good compliance rules in place. Yeah. But in order to even. Like surface to the top of the list to be matched. There’s a gated entry, which is, you’ve gotta have validated practices. Okay. Which is how, it’s these various ways, as you described, you quantify and qualify the partner’s capabilities. [00:20:00] Vince Menzione: Yeah. So you have to meet these qualifications. Yes. And you could be one of three to enter and be. Potentially matched, considered significant or Yes. Match for this deal? [00:20:08] Jen Odess: Yes, that’s exactly right. So we use, various things like that. And then we try to carve what I would call dance card space reseller in commercial, try to sit here and like carve by geo, by region, by country dance card space as well to help the partners really know exactly where they can unleash versus, hey, this is the process and the rules of engagement. To go and sell alongside the direct org sales organization [00:20:33] Vince Menzione: and you’re gonna have multiple partners in the same opportunities. [00:20:37] Vince Menzione: Absolutely not. Not necessarily competing with each other. There’s three competing each with each other, but also you’re gonna have other partners that provide different capabilities as well. You might have that have some that are just transac. Those are gonna be those channel or reseller partners. [00:20:52] Vince Menzione: You might have an MSP that’s actually delivering, or at least providing some type of managed service on top of the stack. Like supporting the customer. Yeah. And then you might have an SI GSI an integration partner that’s also doing the con the consulting work around getting the solution to meet with the customer’s requirements. [00:21:12] Vince Menzione: Would you say [00:21:13] Jen Odess: so? That’s exactly right. Yeah. And actually in. AI era, we’re seeing more of it than ever. And even on the smaller deals, maybe not the GSIs on the smaller deals, but we’re seeing multiple partners come in to serve up their specific expertise, which is actually a best practice. That’s [00:21:33] Vince Menzione: terrific. [00:21:33] Jen Odess: We don’t want. If you’ve got an area that’s a blind spot and you’re a partner, but that’s something your customer is buying from you, there’s no harm in saying let’s bring in an expert in that category to deliver that piece of the business. That’s right. And we’ll maybe shadow and watch alongside. [00:21:46] Jen Odess: So we’re seeing more and more of it. And I actually think like the world of. Partnerships and ecosystems. If I go back to like my previous ecosystem as well, it’s become so much more communal than ever before. Yes. This idea that we can share and be more open and maybe even commiserate over the things, gosh, I can’t believe we have the same frustrations or we have the same. [00:22:09] Jen Odess: Wow, that’s amazing. And you’re in this country. And I’m in this country. And so we’re seeing more and more coming together on deals which I really respect a lot. ’cause So one of the new facts we’ve just learned actually, Vince, is that. Of all the ai buying that customers are doing out there, they actually still want over 70% of it to be done by partners. [00:22:32] Vince Menzione: Yes. [00:22:33] Jen Odess: So even though it looks like it could be maybe set up easy configured, easy plug and play it. It to get, it’s not real ROI. You still need a partner with expertise in that industry or that domain, or in that location or in that language to come and bring the value to life. And we will certainly accelerate, help accelerate time to value with things that ServiceNow will do for our partners. [00:22:56] Jen Odess: But if over 70% is gonna go to partners and AI is so new, wouldn’t you want more than one partner Sometimes on a absolutely on a deal, at least while we’re all learning. I think we can keep ebbing and flowing [00:23:07] Vince Menzione: on this. We you, I dunno if Jay McBain, ’cause we’ve had him in the room here and he is a, he’s an analyst that does a lot of work around this topic. [00:23:14] Vince Menzione: And we talk about the seven seats at the table because there are, again, you need more you, first of all, you need to have your trusted, you need to have the organizations that you work with. And you also, in the world of ai, with all of the tectonic shifts, all the constant changing that’s going on right now, I need to make sure that I have the right. [00:23:31] Vince Menzione: People by my side that I can trust, they can help me deliver what I need to deliver. ’cause it might have changed from six months ago. And the technology is changing. Everything is changing so rapidly right now. So again, having all those right people I want to pick up on something ’cause we talked a little bit about MSPs and they’ve become a favorite topic of ours. [00:23:52] Vince Menzione: I have become acutely aware of the Ms P community recently. I kinda looked at them as well. There’s little small partners, but you’ve suggested this as well. They have regional expert, they have expertise in a specific area. And can be trusted, and maybe you’re integrating multiple solution sets for a customer. [00:24:11] Vince Menzione: But we’ve seen this MSP community become very vibrant lately, and I feel like they woke up to technology and to AI in such a big way. Can you comment on that? [00:24:20] Jen Odess: So we feel and see the same thing I’ve always valued what managed service providers bring to the table. It’s like that. [00:24:26] Jen Odess: Classic are you a transformation shop or are you a ta? The tail end or the run business shop? And so many partners are like we’re both, and I wanna be like, but are you? But now I feel like we finally are seeing the run business is so fruitful. So AI is innovating. All the time. [00:24:46] Jen Odess: We, we are innovating as a AI platform all the time. What used to be six month, every six months family releases of our software. Yeah. It became quarterly and now we’re practically seeing releases of new innovation every six to eight weeks. So why wouldn’t you want a managed service provider? Paying close attention to your whole instance on ServiceNow and taking into account all the latest innovation and building it into your existing instance, and then looking out for what new things you should be bringing in. [00:25:20] Jen Odess: So that’s the beauty of the, it’s almost partnerships, observing, and then suggesting how to keep. Doing better and more and better versus always jumping straight back to complete redesign and transformation. Yeah, and that’s one of the things I like about the MSPs in this space. [00:25:36] Vince Menzione: So let’s broaden out from this part of the conversation ’cause you’re giving specific guidance to the MSPs, but let’s think about this whole partner community. [00:25:43] Vince Menzione: And you’ve seen this transformation coming over to ServiceNow and even within ServiceNow these last five years. How do these organizations need to think differently? And how do they need to structure their services in this newent world? [00:25:58] Jen Odess: Great question. There’s really four things that I think they have to be thoughtful of. [00:26:02] Jen Odess: The first is maybe the most obvious they have to adopt AI as their own ways of doing work methodology. Delivery, whatever it is, because only through the, it’s not about taking out people in jobs, it’s about doing the job faster, right? It’s about getting the customer to value faster so that adoption of AI will make or break some partners. [00:26:24] Jen Odess: And our goal is that every partner comes on the other side of this AI journey, thriving and surviving. So we’re really pushing. This agenda. And maybe later I can talk to you a little bit more about this autonomous implementation concept. Please. ’cause I that will [00:26:37] Vince Menzione: resonate. So you’re saying they need to, we used to use the term eat their own dog food. [00:26:41] Vince Menzione: Now it’s drink your own champagne. Yeah. But they need to adopt it as well internally. [00:26:46] Jen Odess: Yeah. And I think whether they’re using, I hope they’re using ServiceNow as like a client, zero. To do some of that adoption. But there’s lots of other tools that are great AI tools that will make your job and your day-to-day life and the execution of that job easier. [00:26:59] Jen Odess: So we want them adopting all of that. The second is, we really need to see partners. Innovating on the ServiceNow platform. Yeah. And whether that’s building agents AI agents that go into the ServiceNow store, whether it’s building a really fantastic solution that we wanna joint jointly go to market with, or maybe it’s one of those embedded solutions you were commenting where the end user doesn’t even know that the backend, like a tax and audit solution that is actually just. [00:27:29] Jen Odess: The backend is all ServiceNow. Yeah. But that partner is going to market and selling it to all their customers. Exactly. So I think this co-innovation is gonna be a place that we will really win in market. The third is if a partner wants to stand out right now, they have to differentiate on paper too. [00:27:47] Jen Odess: It’s gotta like what does that mean? So if there’s 2,500 partners. And it’s not like we don’t walk around and just say, you should talk to this partner. Yeah. Or here’s my secret list. You should, we don’t do that. That’s not good business and it’s not compliant. So we have algorithms that take all the quantitative and qualitative data on our partners and they know all the data points ’cause it’s part of the partner program Nice. [00:28:10] Jen Odess: That they adhere to and then ranks them on status. And all those data points are what I’m referring to as on paper. You’ve gotta be differentiated. So whether or not you wanna be great at one thing or great across the whole thing, think about how all of those quantitative and qualitative data points are making you stand out, because that’s where those matches that I was referring to. [00:28:35] Jen Odess: Yes. That’s where that’s gonna come to life. And it’s skills, it’s capabilities. It’s deployments. So Proofpoint and deployments, customer success stories, csat, all the things. So [00:28:47] Vince Menzione: those are all the qualifi qualifiers for and more, but those are the types [00:28:49] Jen Odess: of qualifications. Yeah. [00:28:51] Vince Menzione: And then do your, does your sales organization do a match against that based on a customer’s requirements that they’re working with and who they work with and co-sell with? [00:29:00] Jen Odess: And I feel like you just lobbed me the greatest question. I didn’t even know you were gonna ask it, but I’m so glad you did. So today. Today there is something called a partner finder, which is which is nice, but it’s a little bit old school in a world of ai. Yeah. So you go to servicenow.com, you click partner from the top navigation, and then it says find a partner and you can literally type in the products you’re buying the country, you’re, that you’re headquartered out of. [00:29:26] Jen Odess: Whatever thing you’re looking for. And it will start to filter based on all those data points, the right partners, and you can actually click right there to be connected to a partner. So lead generation. Okay, interesting. But where we’re going is a agentic matching right in our CRM for the field. Oh. So those data points are gonna matter even more, and that’s where the gated. [00:29:48] Jen Odess: I say gated entry, which is probably too extreme, right? It’s really gated. If you wanna surface toward the top, there’s gated parameters to try to surface to the top, but those data points will feed the algorithm and it will genetically match right in our CRM for the field. Who are the best suited partners? [00:30:09] Jen Odess: Would you like to talk to them? [00:30:10] Vince Menzione: Okay. And so is it. Partner facing? Is it sales team facing [00:30:14] Jen Odess: Right now? It’s sales. It’ll, when it goes live, it will be sales team facing. Okay. But we have greater ambition for what partners can do with it. Yeah. Not just in the indirect motion, but also what partners may be able to do with it to interface with our field. [00:30:30] Jen Odess: The. [00:30:31] Vince Menzione: The, yeah the collaboration [00:30:33] Jen Odess: opportunity. Which is always a friction point that we’re working on [00:30:36] Vince Menzione: always because it’s very manual. It’s people intensive. Yeah. Partner development managers sitting on both sides of the equation and the interface between the sales organization and a partner organization is not always the. The easiest. So right. Automated, quite a bit of that. [00:30:49] Jen Odess: My boss is obsessed with the easy button, which I know is a phrase many of us in the US know from I think it’s an Office Depot, all these ways in which we can have easy button moments for the partner ecosystem is what we’re trying to focus on. [00:31:01] Jen Odess: I love the easy button. [00:31:02] Vince Menzione: Yeah. And I love your boss too. Yeah, he’s fabulous. Fabulous. So Michael and I go back like many years ago. You must have, [00:31:08] Jen Odess: yeah. You must have had paths crossing on numerous occasions. [00:31:12] Vince Menzione: Yeah we we worked together micro I’m going to hijack the session for a second here. [00:31:16] Vince Menzione: But when I first came to Microsoft, he was leading a, the se, a segment of the business, and he invited me to come to his event and interviewed me on stage at his event. [00:31:26] Jen Odess: No way. [00:31:26] Vince Menzione: And we got to know each other and yeah. So he was terrific. He was what a great find for, oh, he’s for service now. [00:31:32] Vince Menzione: He’s really [00:31:32] Jen Odess: has been a fantastic addition [00:31:34] Vince Menzione: to the global partnerships and channels team. And Michael, we have to have you on the podcast. Yes. Or cut down here in the studio at some point too with Jen and I. That’d be great. So this is terrific. We are getting it’s an incredible time. [00:31:44] Vince Menzione: It’s going so fast this time, 2022 was, seems like it was five, it feels like it was almost 10 years ago now. It wasn’t that we just started talking about it and you were implementing AI 10 years ago, but it wasn’t getting the attention that it’s getting today. And it really wasn’t until that moment that it really started to kick off in a way that everybody, yeah. It became pervasive overnight I would say. But now we’re starting 2026, like we’re at. This precipice of time and it’s continuing. I don’t even know what 2030 is gonna look like, right? So I’m a partner. [00:32:16] Vince Menzione: What are the one, two, or three things that I need to do now to win over and work with ServiceNow? [00:32:23] Jen Odess: One, two or three things? I’ll tell you the first thing. So today ServiceNow will end up hitting 500 million in annual contract value in our Now Assist, which is our AI products by the end of 2025, which is the fastest growing product in all of ServiceNow history. [00:32:37] Jen Odess: That’s one product that’s so there’s lots of SKUs. Yeah, but it is. It’s our AI product. Yeah. And it is, but yeah, because of all the various ways. [00:32:45] Vince Menzione: So half a billion dollars, [00:32:46] Jen Odess: half a billion by the end of 2025. And I think, someone’s gonna have to keep me honest here, but if memory serves me right, the first skews didn’t even launch until 2024. [00:32:54] Jen Odess: So we’re talking about wow, in a year it’s fast. Over 1,700 customers are live with our now assist products. Again, in a matter of, let’s call it over, a little over a year, 1,700 partners. So I think the first thing a partner needs to do is they’ve gotta get on this AI bandwagon, and they’ve gotta be selling and positioning AI use cases to their customers, because that’s the only way they’re gonna get. [00:33:20] Jen Odess: Experience and an opportunity to see what it feels like to deliver. So we have to do that. And I think you could sell a big use case like that big, we talked north, south, east, west, you could do that whole thing. Brilliant. But you could also start small. Go pick a single use case. Like a really simple example of something you wanna, some work you wanna drive productivity on. [00:33:41] Jen Odess: Yeah. And make sure you’ve got multiple stakeholders that love it and then go drive proving that use case. That’s what we’re telling a lot of partners. That’s the first thing. The second is they have got to build skills on AI and they have to keep up with it. And so we’re trying to really think about our broader learning and development team at ServiceNow is just next level. [00:34:00] Jen Odess: And they’re really re-imagining how to have more real time bite size. Training and enablement that will help individuals keep up with that pace of innovation. So individuals have got to get skilled. Yes. On AI today, of that a hundred thousand or so individuals in the ecosystem right now, about 35% of those individuals hold one or more AI credential. [00:34:25] Jen Odess: Again, that’s in a little over a year, which is the fastest growing skill development we’ve ever had, but it should be a hundred percent. Yeah. All of our goals should be that every account is being sold ai. ’cause that’s where the customer’s gonna get to value a ServiceNow is if they have the AI capabilities. [00:34:40] Jen Odess: And [00:34:41] Vince Menzione: how are you providing enablement and training? Is it all online? It’s, we have [00:34:44] Jen Odess: all sorts of ways of doing it. So that we have ServiceNow University, which is just a really robust, learning platform. Elba is our professor in residence. Very cool. Which is very cool. And they’re all content. [00:34:57] Jen Odess: Is free to partners. The training is free to partners that is on demand. Beyond that, partners can still get, instructor led training, whether that’s in person or virtual. And then my team offers enablement. That’s a little bit more, it’s like not formal training, it’s more like hands-on labs and experiences. [00:35:17] Jen Odess: We bring in lots of groups that sit around me that help and we very cool hands on with partners face-to-face. And do you do an annual event where you bring all these partners together? No, because we do we have three major milestones a year for partners. So the first is at sales kickoff, which is coming up the third week in January. [00:35:33] Jen Odess: And alongside sales kickoff is partner kickoff. Okay. And so we do a whole day of enabling them. So that’s your [00:35:39] Vince Menzione: partner kickoff? [00:35:40] Jen Odess: That’s partner kickoff. But of the, of all the partners in the ecosystem, it’s not like they can all make it. So we still also record and then live stream some of the content there. [00:35:49] Jen Odess: Then at Knowledge, there’s a whole partner track at Knowledge and same concept. Yeah, it’s like it’s all about customers and we wanna, build as much pipeline and wow as many customers as possible, but we also need to help our partners come along the journey. Then the third and final moment is in September, always, and it’s called our Global Partner Ecosystem Summit. [00:36:08] Jen Odess: We should have you, I’d love to join this next year. I love that. And it’s really, that’s the one time if sales kickoff is all about the sales motion in the field and knowledge is all about the customers and getting customers value. Global Partner Ecosystem Summit is only about the partners, what they need, why they need it, and what we’re doing to make their lives easier. [00:36:28] Jen Odess: I love it. Yeah. I’ll be there September. I love it. Dates yet set yet? I have to, it’s getting locked. I’ll get it to you. [00:36:34] Vince Menzione: Okay. All right. I’ll, we’ll be there. Okay. So you’ve been incredible. I just love having you. We could spend hours, honestly, and I want to have you back here. I’d love to, I have you back for a more meaningful conversation with the hyperscalers. [00:36:45] Vince Menzione: Talk to some of the partners that join us at Ultimate Partner events. We’ll find a way to do that, but I have this one question. It’s a favorite question of mine, and I love to ask all my guests this. Okay. You’re hosting a dinner party. And you could host a dinner party anywhere in the world. We could talk about great locations and where your favorite places are, and you can invite any three guests from the present or the past to this amazing dinner party. [00:37:11] Vince Menzione: We had one guest who wanted to do them in the future, like three people that hadn’t reached a future date. Whom would you invite Jen and why? [00:37:21] Jen Odess: Oh, first of all, you’re hitting home for me because I love to host dinner parties. I actually used to have a catering company. This is like one of those weird facts that, we didn’t talk about my pre services and ecosystem days, but I also had a catering company, so I love cooking and hosting dinner parties. [00:37:38] Jen Odess: So this is a great question. I feel like it’s a loaded question and I have to say my spouse. I love my husband dearly, but I have. To invite Lee to my dinner party. Okay. He’s in [00:37:47] Vince Menzione: Lee’s guest number one. Lee’s [00:37:49] Jen Odess: guest, number one. And the reason why is, first of all, I love him dearly, but he’s super interesting and he has such thought provoking topics to, to discuss and ways of viewing the world. [00:38:00] Jen Odess: He’s actually in security tech, so it’s like a tangential space, but not the same. [00:38:05] Vince Menzione: Yeah. But an important space right now, especially. Yeah. And [00:38:07] Jen Odess: he, yeah. And he’s, he’s just a delight to be around. So he’d be number one. Number two would be Frank Lloyd Wright. [00:38:15] Vince Menzione: Frank. Lloyd Wright. [00:38:17] Jen Odess: Yeah. I am an architecture and design junkie. [00:38:21] Jen Odess: Maybe I don’t do any of it myself, though. I dabble with friends that do it, and I try to apply it to my home life when I can. And Frank Lloyd Wright sort of embodies some of my favorite. Components of any kind of environment that you are experiencing, whether it’s a home or it’s an office building or it’s an outdoor space. [00:38:39] Jen Odess: I love the idea of minimalism and simplicity. I love the idea of monochromatic colors. I love the idea of spaces that can be used for multipurpose. And then I love the idea of the outside being in and the inside being out. I love it. So I would like love to pick his brain on some of his, how he came up with some of his ideas. [00:38:59] Jen Odess: Fascinating for some of his greatest. Yeah. Designs. Okay. That’s number two. Number three, I think it would be Pharrell Williams. Really? Yeah, I, Pharrell Williams. Yeah. I love fashion music and all things creativity. He’s got that, Annie’s philanthropic. He’s just yeah. The whole package of a good person. [00:39:26] Jen Odess: That’s super interesting and I very cool. I would love to pick his brain on what it was like to be behind the scenes on some of the fashion lines he’s collaborated with on some of his music collabs he’s had, and then just some of the work he’s doing around philanthropy. I would. I could just spend all night probably listening to him. [00:39:43] Jen Odess: This would be a [00:39:44] Vince Menzione: really cool conversation night. [00:39:45] Jen Odess: Don’t you wanna come to my dinner? Was gonna say, I’m sorry I didn’t invite you to identify. No [00:39:49] Vince Menzione: I was, can I bring dessert? [00:39:50] Jen Odess: Yeah. I come [00:39:50] Vince Menzione: for dessert. I, but it can’t, [00:39:51] Jen Odess: it has to be like a chocolate dessert. It’s gotta have [00:39:54] Vince Menzione: I love chocolate dessert. [00:39:55] Vince Menzione: Okay, great. So it would not be a problem for me, Jen. This is terrific. You have been absolutely amazing. So great to have you come here. Yeah. Such a busy time of year to have you make the trip here to Boca. We will have you back in the studio. I promise that I’ll have you back on stage. Stage. [00:40:10] Jen Odess: This is beautiful. [00:40:10] Jen Odess: Look at it. Yeah. This is [00:40:11] Vince Menzione: beautiful. And we transformed this into, to a room, basically a conference room. And then we also have our ultimate partner events. I would love to come, we would love to have you join us. Like I said, ServiceNow is such an impactful time. Your leadership in this segment market, and I wouldn’t say segment across all of AI in terms of all the use cases of AI is just so meaningful, especially for within the enterprise. [00:40:33] Vince Menzione: Yeah. Right now. So just really a jogger nut right now within the industry. So great to have you and have ServiceNow join us. So Jen, thank you so much for joining us. [00:40:42] Jen Odess: Thanks Vince. Appreciate the time. It’s a pleasure to be here. [00:40:44] Vince Menzione: Thank you very much. Thanks for tuning into this episode of Ultimate Eye to Partnering. [00:40:50] Vince Menzione: We’re bringing these episodes to you to help you level up your strategy. If you haven’t yet, now’s the time to take action and think about joining our community. We created a unique place, UPX or Ultimate partner experience. It’s more than a community. It’s your competitive edge with insider insights, real-time education, and direct access to people who are driving the ecosystem forward. [00:41:16] Vince Menzione: UPX helps you get results. And we’re just getting started as we’re taking this studio. 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Space Race and Private Industry Guest: Bob Zimmerman Bob Zimmerman discusses how SpaceX's privately funded Starship program is positioned to beat NASA, China, and Russia in establishing a lunar base, operating independently of the struggling Artemis program. China and Blue Origin are deemed significantly behind in their lunar efforts. Zimmerman also covers other segments including A Space Mobile competing with Starlink, semiconductor manufacturing in space, the X59 project becoming obsolete due to private innovation, and accessible Martian ice at a potential Starship landing site. The convergence of private sector capabilities and reduced government constraints suggests a fundamental shift in space exploration dynamics.