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EP 89 - Mormonism and prosperity, Tim Ballard, David Archuleta, LDS land purchases in Nebraska, and LDS Women get slapped in the face?! Show Information Nov 26, 2023 Greetings brothers and sisters! Welcome to the weekly MormonNewsRoundup. I am your humble host Dives, talent on loan from Kolob, bringing you this podcast with half the Kinderhook Plates tied behind my back. Full Title EP 89 - Mormonism and prosperity, Tim Ballard, David Archuleta, LDS land purchases in Nebraska, and LDS Women get slapped in the face?! Welcome to the MormonNewsRoundup! Get to know Rob Who are you and what are you all about? Your TicToc Channel https://www.tiktok.com/@president_please_help_me?_t=8hTNx29rocx&_r=1 The Single Greatest LDS TikToc Video https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPRvSAPrX/ Articles Mormonism and the soft prosperity gospel https://religionnews.com/2023/11/17/mormonism-and-the-soft-prosperity-gospel/ MNRU Poll of the Week KSL, Deseret News, other LDS Church media outlets get a new leader Former member of the faith's Presiding Bishopric to retire Dec. 1. BYU Broadcasting's managing director will replace him as head of Deseret Management Corp. Mormon leaders accused of 'covering up' a decades-long 'epidemic' of sexual abuse and INCEST that rivals scandals in Catholic church: Victims say perpetrators are protected - but the abused are forced to forgive their attackers Gospel Answers Every Doubt and Faith Challenge, Elder Cook Tells Young Adults https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/gospel-answers-every-doubt-and-faith-challenge-elder-cook-tells-young-adults https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT8y5DSmL/ Tim Ballard The Spear Fund has begun the process of dropping Tim Ballard from their website. A website that until recently was Tim's last refuge on the planet outside his own goofy personal channels. https://x.com/chinoblanco/status/1727169444060021130?s=46&t=Kn3MLSjDGf_9v6exU2J_Gg - Spear Fund's Press page hasn't been cleanses of O.U.R support yet. https://www.instagram.com/reel/C0A43QvrW21/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== Separated, fake account? Six plaintiffs filing suit against Operation Underground Railroad are speaking now at a press conference in Salt Lake City. https://x.com/adamherbets/status/1727072942314635725?s=46&t=Kn3MLSjDGf_9v6exU2J_Gg NuanceHoe reacts https://x.com/thenuancehoe/status/1727217035288174627?s=46&t=Kn3MLSjDGf_9v6exU2J_Gg O.U.R Review: Urgent Crisis! There's an abusive network of the wealthiest sex traffickers in Utah: Tim Ballard, Matt Osborne, Sean Reyes, and Matt Cooper. PLEASE investigate them as soon as you all get back from prison, O.U.R.! American Idol's David Archuleta says his Mormon friends gave him the 'cold' shoulder after he left the church in the wake of coming out as queer: 'I just need to move on' https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-12777453/American-Idols-David-Archuleta-Mormon-friends-cold-shoulder-left-church.html Who's Buying Nebraska? After shopping spree, Mormon church is top land purchaser https://flatwaterfreepress.org/whos-buying-nebraska-after-shopping-spree-mormon-church-is-top-land-purchaser/ Mormon Land': Apostle vacancy spurs questions about men who run the church — for life https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2023/11/21/mormon-land-apostle-vacancy-spurs/ LDS Women slapped in the face? https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2023/11/24/slap-face-lds-relief-society/ Connect with Dives! www.MormonNewsRoundup.org kolob@mormonnewsroundup.org Voicemail Twitter YouTube Instagram TikToc Facebook Support this Podcast Patreon New MNRU episodes live on YouTube Sundays at 9:30pm EST New MMR episodes live on YouTube Mondays at 9:30pm EST Shoutout to Weird Alma on bandcamp.com for this episode's music. Thanks so much for ruminating with us on the great and spacious beehive! And remember, remember: No unhallowed hand can stop this podcast from progressing! --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/mormonnewsroundup/support

Show Information  Nov 17, 2023 Greetings brothers and sisters! Welcome to the weekly MormonNewsRoundup. I am your humble host Dives, talent on loan from Kolob, bringing you this podcast with half the Kinderhook Plates tied behind my back.  My crew and I ruminate weekly on the great and spacious beehive! Thanks so much for joining us to discuss the latest current events in Mormondom.  Full Title EP 85 - Ballard and Ballard zaniness continues, Mormon Church AP Sex abuse case conclusion, Elder Soares interview, Pres. Nelson gives us an inspired update on his health, and the Jesus Legacy Park in Heber sparks concerns   Welcome to the MormonNewsRoundup! MNRU Joke of the week Al Articles Heber Park https://www.kpcw.org/heber-city/2023-11-07/planned-heber-city-park-honoring-book-of-mormon-u-s-founding-raises-talk-of-christian-nationalism  Poll of the Week Soares Brazilian YouTuber interviews Elder Soares, who talks about his apostolic calling AP Sex Abuse Case Finally Concludes https://azcapitoltimes.com/news/2023/11/08/judge-tosses-out-bid-by-family-sexual-abuse-survivors-to-sue-church-for-failing-to-report-to-police/  https://youtu.be/JsnRA11c7pY?si=XzezBOB3QPRZgwUy  https://x.com/therandymormon/status/1722640657808756774?s=46&t=Kn3MLSjDGf_9v6exU2J_Gg  https://x.com/therandymormon/status/1722529119529754875?s=46&t=Kn3MLSjDGf_9v6exU2J_Gg  https://x.com/olivercowd/status/1722638663069417718?s=46&t=Kn3MLSjDGf_9v6exU2J_Gg  Tucson attorney speaks out about dismissed child sexual abuse case https://www.kvoa.com/news/local/tucson-attorney-speaks-out-about-dismissed-child-sexual-abuse-case/article_8e27ff12-7eb5-11ee-a374-eb1588d576b4.html  https://x.com/jenn_nextdoor/status/1722653559454568654?s=46&t=Kn3MLSjDGf_9v6exU2J_Gg  https://x.com/aureliawelde/status/1722778038973391234?s=46&t=Kn3MLSjDGf_9v6exU2J_Gg  https://x.com/jenn_nextdoor/status/1722677307381530931?s=46&t=Kn3MLSjDGf_9v6exU2J_Gg  Gaza https://www.abc4.com/news/the-church-of-jesus-christ-of-latter-day-saints-offers-relief-in-gaza-israel/  BYU https://universe.byu.edu/2023/11/07/the-integrity-and-compliance-office-offers-a-safe-way-for-students-to-report-noncompliance/ Heber Temple https://www.fox13now.com/news/local-news/wasatch-county-council-approves-construction-of-lds-temple-in-heber-valley  President Nelson gives health update https://x.com/nelsonrussellm/status/1722992719092699234?s=46&t=Kn3MLSjDGf_9v6exU2J_Gg  https://x.com/enos_envy/status/1723033818993439021?s=46&t=Kn3MLSjDGf_9v6exU2J_Gg https://x.com/brothermike17/status/1723000434946609181?s=46&t=Kn3MLSjDGf_9v6exU2J_Gg  Ballard and Ballard https://www.fox13now.com/news/local-news/lds-apostle-accused-of-leaking-tithing-records-to-target-wealthy-donors  https://x.com/religiongal/status/1721663352345444432?s=46&t=Kn3MLSjDGf_9v6exU2J_Gg  https://x.com/elimccann/status/1721684807544107428?s=46&t=Kn3MLSjDGf_9v6exU2J_Gg  https://x.com/chinoblanco/status/1722374695541166472?s=46&t=Kn3MLSjDGf_9v6exU2J_Gg  https://x.com/chinoblanco/status/1722359456921743547?s=46&t=Kn3MLSjDGf_9v6exU2J_Gg  https://x.com/enos_envy/status/1721991852608434251?s=46&t=Kn3MLSjDGf_9v6exU2J_Gg  MemeS https://www.instagram.com/p/CzXZsKfhkmc/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link  https://x.com/brothermike17/status/1721872978277720215?s=46&t=Kn3MLSjDGf_9v6exU2J_Gg  https://x.com/cwillardsmoot/status/1722959485948366859?s=46&t=Kn3MLSjDGf_9v6exU2J_Gg  Connect with Dives! www.MormonNewsRoundup.org kolob@mormonnewsroundup.org Voicemail Twitter YouTube Instagram TikToc Facebook  Support this Podcast Patreon New MNRU episodes live on YouTube Sundays at 9:30pm EST Announcement! New MMR episodes live on YouTube Mondays at 9:30pm EST Shoutout to Weird Alma on bandcamp.com for this episode's music. Thanks so much for ruminating with us on the great and spacious beehive!  And remember, remember: No unhallowed hand can stop this podcast from progressing!  --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/mormonnewsroundup/support

Show Information  Nov 5, 2023 Greetings brothers and sisters! Welcome to the weekly MormonNewsRoundup. I am your humble host Dives, talent on loan from Kolob, bringing you this podcast with half the Kinderhook Plates tied behind my back.  My crew and I ruminate weekly on the great and spacious beehive! Thanks so much for joining us to discuss the latest current events in Mormondom.  Full Title EP 84 - Mormon church faces another federal tithing misuse lawsuit, Tim Ballard docs make INSANE church allegations, and LDS Church real estate arm goes bananas in Arizona  Welcome to the MormonNewsRoundup! MNRU Joke of the week Rebecca What did you dress up in for Halloween? Dives Halloween Candy Ruse Articles Lawsuit Watch video A federal lawsuit filed Tuesday alleges the LDS Church's investment arm misused hundreds of thousands of dollars Latest tithing lawsuit seeks independent oversight of LDS Church finances Nemo Reel - Todd Budge Teen allegedly taken by mom, uncle as part of doomsday prophecy found at Canadian border Who is Spring Thibaudeau? All about the Mormon mother arrested after taking teenage son to Alaska over a doomsday prophecy Video  Charges filed against doomsday mother and uncle of missing teen Queen Creek LDS church to develop huge build-to-rent project in Queen Creek https://www.abc15.com/news/business/lds-church-to-develop-huge-build-to-rent-project-in-queen-creek  Churches as landlord MNRU Poll of the Week Top 10 things you didn't know about the LDS church's $100M+ build-to-rent community in Arizona A nonprofit has bought acreage in Heber City with the hope of turning it into a Book of Mormon-inspired sculpture garden Plan recommended to build controversial LDS temple in Heber City Missionaries  LDS Church plans a huge jump in the number of missions as its proselytizing force grows More missions Official Tweet Stats https://x.com/TheCultchNews/status/1720047653336023498?s=20 What the church can control More stats BYU The BYU Jerusalem Center students are leaving Greece today to finish the semester from home Thanks to our reporting, responsible action has ensured that the CAPS office will no longer disseminate the LGBTQ “Activism Guides.”  Guide BYU football having a tough time in its Big 12 debut meme It's all about the timing Tim Ballard "The Davis County Investigation, according to OUR's own internal documents, revealed that Elder M. Russell Ballard and other authorities from the Mormon Church, provided Mormon tithing records to OUR to help OUR target wealthy donors and wealthy Mormon Church Wards. Id. at p. 7, ¶ 58 (f)." Tweet More Breathing Problems Video of Mike Green https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/2023/10/27/utah-ag-sean-reyes-tim-ballard/ Memo Who has access to apostles? BYU hasn't gotten the memo Big line of cocaine Tweet  Mike Lee in on this gravy train too MRB condones? meme Devotional Memes Yet another case of mismanaging the widows mite   More women Close association  Osmonds Debbie and I had the wonderful privilege of hosting Elder Bednar Connect with Dives! www.MormonNewsRoundup.org kolob@mormonnewsroundup.org Voicemail Twitter YouTube Instagram TikToc Facebook  Support this Podcast Patreon New MNRU episodes live on YouTube Sundays at 9:30pm EST Shoutout to Weird Alma on bandcamp.com for this episode's music. Thanks so much for ruminating with us on the great and spacious beehive!  And remember, remember: No unhallowed hand can stop this podcast from progressing!  #lds, #mormon, #exmormon, #postmormon,#religion, #news, #ldschurch, #comeuntochrist, #churchofjesuschrist, #churchofjesuschristoflatterdaysaints, #byu, #byui, #josephsmith, #comefollowme, #polygamy, #bookofmormon, #becauseofhim, #hearhim New federal lawsuit filed against Latter-day Saint church over alleged 'misuse' of donationsGround broken for Fort Worth Texas Temple — 1 of 8 in the state and 3 in the metro areaChurch announces 36 new missions; increase of time allowed to start paperwork --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/mormonnewsroundup/support

Show Information  Oct 29, 2023 Greetings brothers and sisters! Welcome to the weekly MormonNewsRoundup. I am your humble host Dives, talent on loan from Kolob, bringing you this podcast with half the Kinderhook Plates tied behind my back.  My crew and I ruminate weekly on the great and spacious beehive! Thanks so much for joining us to discuss the latest current events in Mormondom.  Full Title EP 83 - Dr. Patrick Mason co-hosts, the LDS church and climate change, Mitt Romney in the spotlight, Faith matters conference controversies, and temple updates Welcome to the MormonNewsRoundup! Get to know Patrick (5 minutes) What's your one minute Mormon story? You have considerable experience in LDS related news including: Latter-day Landscape (Mormonism Magnified) A forgotten gem  mormon news weekly Mormon News Weekly discussion What was the goal?  Why did it end?  Do you have plans to get back into the LDS news sphere? Patrick's X reaction to the canceled MNW endeavor  You have made the rounds on many LDS affiliated podcasts including those with tiny followings and even quasi-conspiratorial shows. MNRU Joke of the week Patrick Articles Seems to be a bit of a departure from the Church's neutrality on this issue in times past I didn't realize the church had a sustainability manager: Jenica Sedgewick KUER poll - only 10% of latter-day Saints believe climate change is a crisis Church donated Great Salt Lake water shares last year  Church's mostly failed attempt last year to go brown (Axios) Mormon environmentalism stewardship alliance Romney, currently an active LDS senator from Utah, has announced he won't seek reelection in 2024. As Romney saw it, Coppins writes, the most pressing challenges in the global church of 17 million members came not from without, but from within — namely in “retaining young people, promoting faith in a secular world, and addressing prickly issues in the church's history.” is Mitt Romney correct about the modern day Threats to the church? Right leaning church member weighs in Who is right? Romney or Packer? A tough take, but accurate? Romney's own public service and his views on the dysfunction of American politics Most people look at Latter-day Saints and good secret keepers Gordon Monson on Faith Matters Meme Temples Cody Wyoming internal documents related to the Church's planned temple show the angst this building brings to this small community LDS donor of temple site plot offers job to city employee New Orem temple paves way for longtime Provo temple to be demolished, rebuilt Should the Provo temple be torn down and remodeled? Should the SL Temple have been gutted? Church donates nearly $1 million to Florida food bank Short from Morgan from my spiritual life Conclusion You latest book is Proclaim Peace: The Restoration Answer to an Age of Conflict What projects do you have planned in the future either at USU, additional books, or in other ventures? Connect with Dives! www.MormonNewsRoundup.org kolob@mormonnewsroundup.org Voicemail Twitter YouTube Instagram TikToc Facebook  Support this Podcast Patreon New MNRU episodes live on YouTube Sundays at 9:30pm EST Shoutout to Weird Alma on bandcamp.com for this episode's music. Thanks so much for ruminating with us on the great and spacious beehive!  And remember, remember: No unhallowed hand can stop this podcast from progressing!  #lds, #mormon, #exmormon, #postmormon,#religion, #news, #ldschurch, #comeuntochrist, #churchofjesuschrist, #churchofjesuschristoflatterdaysaints, #byu, #byui, #josephsmith, #comefollowme, #polygamy, #bookofmormon, #becauseofhim, #hearhim --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/mormonnewsroundup/support

Show Information  Oct 22, 2023 Greetings brothers and sisters! Welcome to the weekly MormonNewsRoundup. I am your humble host Dives, talent on loan from Kolob and with half the Kinderhook Plates tied behind my back.  My crew and I ruminate weekly on the great and spacious beehive! Thanks so much for joining us to discuss the latest current events in Mormondom.  Full Title EP 82 - Gene Judson from Latter-daily Digest  co-hosts, Bonnie Cordon goes to SVU, Sister Kathleen Eyring passes away Welcome to the MormonNewsRoundup! https://youtube.com/@Latter-dailyDigest?si=cufgWakiVskCi9pe  Why did you start your channel? I invited you on before you began your podcast, so I can see around corners, Gene! MNRU Joke of the week Gene Articles ‘Our hearts ache': Latter-day Saint leaders issue statement calling violence in Middle East ‘abhorrent'⁠⁠ Rabbi takes issue with LDS First Presidency statement on Hamas-Israel war⁠ only took 6 days to get this statement through correlation (contrast to Tim Ballard statement which went out lightning fast?) “Violence of this nature is abhorrent to us and is not in harmony with the gospel of Jesus Christ” Wait, God repeatedly commanded genocide in the OT and Jesus killed untold thousands in 3 Ne 9, not to mention the global flood and my good friend Uzzah in the Bible On Friday, the BYU Jerusalem Center, which is sponsored by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, announced that it was relocating students and staff to Greece. ⁠Bonnie H. Cordon Named President of Southern Virginia University⁠ Background on her grandson? Gene Now that she has ‘made it' we can all take her name off the prayer retirement of class names Beehive, Mia Maid, and Laurel; MNRU poll of the week  ⁠Gov. Spencer Cox calls for criminal investigation into allegations against Tim Ballard⁠ Kathleen Johnson Eyring, wife of President Henry B. Eyring, Second Counselor in the First Presidency, passed away peacefully today, surrounded by her family in Bountiful, Utah. She was 82. Fixed picture? https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/kathleen-johnson-eyring-obit  https://x.com/ofgoodreport_/status/1715065473987977421?s=46&t=Kn3MLSjDGf_9v6exU2J_Gg  Her best day Upcoming O.U.R. devotional at an LDS church featuring Matt Osborne offering timely advice on — wait for it — Situational Awareness and Grooming Tactics. If you can't beat them, join them? Mormon Shrivel Home ward in Spring Valley, CA now a Chaldean Catholic Church Paging the stone cut out of the mountain without hands… Mormon chapel to move into City as church-owned property fund looks to fill empty office space Think Celestial Tattoo appointment already scheduled, strength of youth  One soles of the feet of RMN Latter-day Saint women aren't oppressed changed title to The happiness of women can't be separated from the moral development of men. The church's organization reflects this Latter-day Saint women aren't oppressed Trib coverage  BYU Is Hosting a Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Event⁠ Conclusion What do you have planned in the future for latter-day digest? Connect with Dives! www.MormonNewsRoundup.org kolob@mormonnewsroundup.org Voicemail Twitter YouTube Instagram TikToc Facebook  Support this Podcast Patreon New MNRU episodes live on YouTube Sundays at 9:30pm EST Shoutout to Weird Alma on bandcamp.com for this episode's music. Thanks so much for ruminating with us on the great and spacious beehive!  And remember, remember: No unhallowed hand can stop this podcast from progressing!  #lds, #mormon, #exmormon, #postmormon,#religion, #news, #ldschurch, #comeuntochrist, #churchofjesuschrist, #churchofjesuschristoflatterdaysaints, #byu, #byui, #josephsmith, #comefollowme, #polygamy, #bookofmormon, #becauseofhim, #hearhim --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/mormonnewsroundup/support

It's the listener show! Today we bring on a group of cohosts to attempt the impossible task of filling Shannon's shoes while she continues to recover. Tanner presents a segment on the Kinderhook plates, drawing larger implications for how it disproves other Mormon scripture “translation” claims. Then Will takes us on a journey through reconciling his relationship with his mom through LARPing (Live Action Role Playing) and making his own “translation” of the Kinderhook plates. Then Julie gives us a rundown on the new Barbie movie starring Margot Robbie and Ryan Gosling. After that we're joined by Friend from Serbia (V) to discuss the ongoing situation involving Connexions and its leaders, Jodi Hildebrant and Ruby Franke. We round out the show with some happy climate news based in the U.S.   Show Notes: Will's Twitter - https://twitter.com/TheSeerStoners / Tail end of Heavenly Mother LARP - https://twitter.com/TheSeerStoners/status/1576569834384809984 Ryan Gosling Talent Show at a Mormon church 1991 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJQvXCoNDzM Julie's Twitter - @juliebr83 Tanner's blog - https://diligenceovertime.blogspot.com/ Come see us on Aron Ra's YouTube channel! He's doing a series titled Reading Joseph's Myth BoM. This link is for the playlist:   https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXJ4dsU0oGMKfJKvEMeRn5ebpAggkoVHf  Check out his channel here: https://www.youtube.com/@AronRa Email: glassboxpodcast@gmail.com  Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/GlassBoxPod  Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/glassboxpodcast Twitter: https://twitter.com/GlassBoxPod  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/glassboxpodcast/  Merch store: https://www.redbubble.com/people/exmoapparel/shop Or find the merch store by clicking on “Store” here: https://glassboxpodcast.com/index.html One time Paypal donation: bryceblankenagel@gmail.com   

Did Joseph Smith have another shot at translating ancient scripture, or is it just rumor? Mike and John take a look at the Kinderhook Plates. What were they? Did Joseph Smith try to translate them, and what was the result? As usual, we dive into the apologetics around multiple scenarios and why they are each attractive to differing views. Co-host: Nemo the Mormon LDS Discussion Essay on the Kinderhook Plates Episode Show Notes _________________________ LDS Discussions is made possible by generous donors! Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today: One-time or recurring donation through Donorbox Support us on Patreon Pick “Mormon Stories” as your charity on Amazon Smile or through the Amazon App LDS Discussions Platforms: LDS Discussions Website LDS Discussions Playlist on YouTube Contact LDS Discussions: Twitter: @ldsdicussions Facebook: @ldsdiscussion Insta: @ldsdiscussions Email: ldsdiscussions@gmail.com Contact us: MormonStories@gmail.com PO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117 Social Media: Insta: @mormstories Tiktok: @mormonstoriespodcast Join the Discord --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/lds-discussions/message

Did Joseph Smith have another shot at translating ancient scripture, or is it just rumor? Mike, Nemo and John take a look at the Kinderhook Plates. What were they? Did Joseph Smith try to translate them, and what was the result? As usual, we dive into the apologetics around multiple scenarios and why they are each attractive to differing views. Co-host: Nemo the Mormon LDS Discussion Essay on the Kinderhook Plates Episode Show Notes _________________________ LDS Discussions is made possible by generous donors! Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today: One-time or recurring donation through Donorbox Support us on Patreon Pick “Mormon Stories” as your charity on Amazon Smile or through the Amazon App LDS Discussions Platforms: LDS Discussions Website LDS Discussions Playlist on YouTube Contact LDS Discussions: Twitter: @ldsdicussions Facebook: @ldsdiscussion Insta: @ldsdiscussions Email: ldsdiscussions@gmail.com Contact us: MormonStories@gmail.com PO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117 Social Media: Insta: @mormstories Tiktok: @mormonstoriespodcast Join the Discord

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Joe questions whether reading the BOM is good for him. Smith suggests for the listener to order a free one, but the missionaries will bring it. The guys accidentally stumble into the church's new branding campaign to have a BOM in your crotch. They return to the well until the end of the episode. In this chapter, JS warns us that there are some Isaiah chapters coming. Like 13 of them. There are 2 more BOMs in crotches. Smith has a story about a TBM friend, who may be a deer. The guys remember D'ump from Tim and Eric. Joe passes along a book recommendation from someone he trusts- Jennette McCurdy's I'm Glad My Mom Died Smith opens some mail that he got from Joe. Joe included his testimony of the BOM in the package. Smith re-reads a previous verse. JS, he has a BOM in his crotch. Joe doesn't like the use of the word proving in the BOM. 5 more BOMs in crotches. The BOM just isn't going to burn in some house fires. Is Santa a lie for children? There is more BOM logic about why God exists. Also the LDS Godhead is confusing. Mysterious vmail- Phoenix Gem and Mineral Show (07/26/2012) Joe poses a hypothetical scenario about guys arguing over the bible. Joe gets the Kinderhook Plates mixed up with View of the Hebrews. Joe liked hearing that Australia has more restrictive standards for what is and is not considered a religion. Joe tries to quiz Smith about the names of some of the brethren's wives. They find out that Joe is reading from an old list. Also, that LDS guys technically get more virgins than some of the other religions' afterlife. Some more BOMs in crotches. Smith has a story about his earthly father. Joe asks how Smith's dad is doing. Joe tells a story about catching up with an old friend. Joe tells an embarrassing story about the guys' friend, Sam the Eagle. One more BOMcrotch. Joe reads a ‘yo child is so perished' from their listener. Smith presents Joe with a challenge that he will not take on. Joe presents a scenario that would send Smith into a rage. OK, just one more.    Music Provided by Eric VanAusdal with permission from the artist. The Book of Mormon is publicly available at churchofjesuschrist.org  Remember who you are and what you stand for

In 1843, six men claimed to have unearthed ancient metal plates from a burial mound. They were eventually brought to Joseph Smith. Critics have claimed Joseph was fooled by what was eventually revealed to be a fraud. What is the truth of this claim? The post Witnesses of the Book of Mormon — Insights Episode 10: What were the Kinderhook Plates? first appeared on The Interpreter Foundation.

Bill and RFM tell the story of the Kinderhook Plates episode in Mormon history in Mormonism Live fashion. From original Documents to Conspiracy Theories to a honest transparent conversation around the facts.  We discuss the history, the tests done to attempt to discern their dating and method of inscription, the Church’s commentary around them, and… Read More »Mormonism Live: 075: Fugate's Kinderhook Fugazi

Bill and RFM tell the story of the Kinderhook Plates episode in Mormon history in Mormonism Live fashion. From original Documents to Conspiracy Theories to a honest transparent conversation around the facts.  We discuss the history, the tests done to attempt to discern their dating and method of inscription, the Church's commentary around them, and… Read More »Mormonism Live: 075: Fugate's Kinderhook Fugazi

Bill and RFM tell the story of the Kinderhook Plates episode in Mormon history in Mormonism Live fashion. From original Documents to Conspiracy Theories to a honest transparent conversation around the facts.  We discuss the history, the tests done to attempt to discern their dating and method of inscription, the Church’s commentary around them, and… Read More »Mormonism Live: 075: Fugate's Kinderhook Fugazi The post Mormonism Live: 075: Fugate's Kinderhook Fugazi appeared first on Mormon Discussions Podcasts - Full Lineup.

Bill and RFM tell the story of the Kinderhook Plates episode in Mormon history in Mormonism Live fashion. From original Documents to Conspiracy Theories to a honest transparent conversation around the facts.  We discuss the history, the tests done to attempt to discern their dating and method of inscription, the Church's commentary around them, and… Read More »Mormonism Live: 075: Fugate's Kinderhook Fugazi The post Mormonism Live: 075: Fugate's Kinderhook Fugazi appeared first on Mormon Discussion by Bill Reel.

On the latest episode of Mormon Book Reviews Jonathan Neville returns to discuss a unique piece of his collection, a replica of the controversal Kinderhook Plates. Jonathan describes how he acquired them. This serves as a catalyst to discuss the original plates and how a plausible argument can be made of their ancient origin within a Restorationist context. Joseph Smith claimed to have partially translated them. Neville discusses why this is not a problem, even if they were fake. Up until 1980 it was widely thought by the Church that they were authentic, this is no longer the case. Jonathan puts forth a hypothosis that is original and thought provoking. Perhaps it is time to reopen the case!PatreonLinks about the Kinderhook platesWikiChurch of Jesus Christ - Kinderhook PlatesChurch of Jesus Christ - Kinderhook Plates Brought to Joseph Smith Appear to Be a Nineteenth-Century Hoaxrsc.byu.edu - Did Joseph Smith Translate the Kinderhook Plates?

Hey folks welcome back to the Utah Outcasts! Yes we are back from our week off and it was magical! This week's big discussion is going to be about those teeny little pieces of metal that threw the LDS church for a loop back in the 1800s, the Kinderhook Plates! We also have a few news items to bring up so you won't want to miss a minute of the show! We had Kyle, X, Steve, and Crimson as the panelists this week and yes, that's a lot of dudes, but don't worry, X and Kyle make sure to keep it from becoming a brofest. I sincerely hope you enjoy this episode. Let's get right to it! Crimson's Channel TOPICS THIS WEEK C.I.A. Is Collecting in Bulk Certain Data Affecting Americans, Senators Warn Walker for Colorado: Lauren Boebert's worst nightmare Pastor Greg Locke threatened to expose the six witches who are members of his church Kinderhook plates - Wikipedia Kinderhook Plates - Mormon Stories SECRET SHOW TEASER Not included on this episode but is currently live on Patreon exclusively for the next six months, X and crew spent a good 20ish minutes going over a Matt Powell video where he berates one of his critics because they happen to be a member of a certain fandom. Keep in mind this is coming from the guy who is currently filling in for Kent Hovind in Alabama in a dinosaur themed bucket of turds that teaches about Jesus and creationism.  Thank you for listening, we'll catch you next week! Email: Mailbag@UtahOutcasts.com Voicemail/SMS line: (347) 669-3377 Instagram: Click Here Facebook: Click Here Twitter: Click Here YouTube: Click Here OPENING SONG – AKnewGod “Break the Veil” used with permission CLOSING SONG – Teknoaxe “Race Between the Spires” used with permission BUY SOME MERCH!!! Subscribe via iTunes Support us via Patreon Support us via PayPal Join the Discord!

We continue our series on the CES Letter with sections 6, 7, and 8. These sections cover a variety of topics, such as prophets, the Kinderhook Plates, and spiritual witnesses.

Jim Bennett is the author of "A Faithful Reply to the CES Letter."  He is also the son of the late Utah U.S. Senator Bob Bennett. In Part 2 of a multi-part series with Jim, we discuss in-depth his approach to maintaining belief in the Mormon church AFTER exposure to all of the historical and social problems currently vexing the LDS church, as highlighted in Jeremy Runnell's groundbreaking book "CES Letter: My Search for Answers to my Mormon Doubts." Today's episode covers: The Book of Mormon The Witnesses to the Book of Mormon The Book of Abraham The Kinderhook Plates The First Vision And much, much more! Also, please do not miss my dear friend Bill Reel's super in-depth interview with Jim if you happened to miss it.

The Interview: In this episode of the Latter-day Saint Perspectives Podcast, Laura Harris Hales interviews Mark Ashurst-McGee, co-author of a new in-depth study of the Kinderhook plates saga. It is well-known that Joseph Smith claimed to have translated the Book of Mormon by “the gift and power of God” from a set of golden plates that he found in a stone box buried in a hill near his home. Lesser known is his later translation from a collection of brass plates disinterred from an Indian burial mound near Kinderhook, Illinois, located about seventy miles downstream from Nauvoo. The History of the Church records that Joseph Smith “translated a portion” of these plates and declared that they contained “the history of the person with whom they were found,” who was “a descendant of Ham.” That official narrative dominated the legacy of this second set of plates for over a century. Nevertheless, controversy always swirled around the affair. This recital is a strange episode in early Mormon history, but the history of the interpretation of the story is even more peculiar. Years after the event, two of the men who were present when locals discovered the plates claimed that they made the plates with help from the village blacksmith, inscribed them with characters, planted them in the mound, and then led an unsuspecting group of curious locals to “discover” them as part of a hoax. Rejecting this contention, considering the revelation of a supposed hoax to be the real hoax, Latter-day Saints used the Kinderhook plates for decades as supporting evidence for the validity of the golden plates and their translation into the Book of Mormon. In the late nineteenth century, several publications promoted the testimony of one of the scammers as evidence of the Kinderhook forgery. Critics of Mormonism used this revelation to attack Joseph Smith’s legitimacy as a prophet and an inspired translator. Soon detractors distilled the anti-Mormon argument into a pithy slogan: “Only a bogus prophet translates bogus plates.” In light of the slur, Latter-day Saints doubled down, insisting that the forgery claims were lies, the plates were genuine, and they supported the Book of Mormon and Joseph Smith’s prophetic claims. Despite these confident declarations, Latter-day Saint contentions later proved erroneous. Rigorous scientific testing in 1980 demonstrated conclusively that the plates were modern forgeries rather than pre-Columbian creations. Many wondered how these new findings spoke to Joseph Smith’s purported rendering. Latter-day Saint historian Stanley Kimball problematized any simple resolution to the mystery when he examined the drama further by turning to the contested statement of Joseph Smith regarding the translation. At about the same time scientific evidence confirmed the fraudulent origin of the plates, Church historians discovered the actual source of Joseph Smith’s declaration on the translation as found in the History of the Church. As it turns out, Joseph Smith never wrote that he had translated from the Kinderhook plates. Instead, researchers learned that early Latter-day Saint chroniclers extracted this information from the diary of Joseph Smith’s private secretary, William Clayton. In an article in the Ensign, the official magazine of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Stanley Kimball revealed the modern fabrication of the Kinderhook plates, but at the same time he revealed the true source of the words attributed to Joseph Smith and argued that William Clayton was wrong when he wrote about Joseph Smith translating from the plates. In this new study, Don Bradley and Mark Ashurst-McGee provide analysis of Clayton’s relationship with Joseph Smith, his diary-keeping practices, and the broader context of the entire journal entry that served as the basis for the statements inserted in the History of the Church. They argue that Clayton knew very well what he was writing about and that Smith did, in fact,

The Interview: In this episode of the Latter-day Saint Perspectives Podcast, Laura Harris Hales interviews Mark Ashurst-McGee, co-author of a new in-depth study of the Kinderhook plates saga. It is well-known that Joseph Smith claimed to have translated the Book of Mormon by “the gift and power of God” from a set of golden plates that he found in a stone box buried in a hill near his home. Lesser known is his later translation from a collection of brass plates disinterred from an Indian burial mound near Kinderhook, Illinois, located about seventy miles downstream from Nauvoo. The History of the Church records that Joseph Smith “translated a portion” of these plates and declared that they contained “the history of the person with whom they were found,” who was “a descendant of Ham.” That official narrative dominated the legacy of this second set of plates for over a century. Nevertheless, controversy always swirled around the affair. This recital is a strange episode in early Mormon history, but the history of the interpretation of the story is even more peculiar. Years after the event, two of the men who were present when locals discovered the plates claimed that they made the plates with help from the village blacksmith, inscribed them with characters, planted them in the mound, and then led an unsuspecting group of curious locals to “discover” them as part of a hoax. Rejecting this contention, considering the revelation of a supposed hoax to be the real hoax, Latter-day Saints used the Kinderhook plates for decades as supporting evidence for the validity of the golden plates and their translation into the Book of Mormon. In the late nineteenth century, several publications promoted the testimony of one of the scammers as evidence of the Kinderhook forgery. Critics of Mormonism used this revelation to attack Joseph Smith’s legitimacy as a prophet and an inspired translator. Soon detractors distilled the anti-Mormon argument into a pithy slogan: “Only a bogus prophet translates bogus plates.” In light of the slur, Latter-day Saints doubled down, insisting that the forgery claims were lies, the plates were genuine, and they supported the Book of Mormon and Joseph Smith’s prophetic claims. Despite these confident declarations, Latter-day Saint contentions later proved erroneous. Rigorous scientific testing in 1980 demonstrated conclusively that the plates were modern forgeries rather than pre-Columbian creations. Many wondered how these new findings spoke to Joseph Smith’s purported rendering. Latter-day Saint historian Stanley Kimball problematized any simple resolution to the mystery when he examined the drama further by turning to the contested statement of Joseph Smith regarding the translation. At about the same time scientific evidence confirmed the fraudulent origin of the plates, Church historians discovered the actual source of Joseph Smith’s declaration on the translation as found in the History of the Church. As it turns out, Joseph Smith never wrote that he had translated from the Kinderhook plates. Instead, researchers learned that early Latter-day Saint chroniclers extracted this information from the diary of Joseph Smith’s private secretary, William Clayton. In an article in the Ensign, the official magazine of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Stanley Kimball revealed the modern fabrication of the Kinderhook plates, but at the same time he revealed the true source of the words attributed to Joseph Smith and argued that William Clayton was wrong when he wrote about Joseph Smith translating from the plates. In this new study, Don Bradley and Mark Ashurst-McGee provide analysis of Clayton’s relationship with Joseph Smith, his diary-keeping practices, and the broader context of the entire journal entry that served as the basis for the statements inserted in the History of the Church. They argue that Clayton knew very well what he was writing about and that Smith did, in fact,

Over the past several decades. credible Mormon-themed scholarship has determined beyond any reasonable doubt that Joseph Smith's claim have special powers to "translate" ancient languages was not true, and that Joseph often relied on plagiarism to produce his "revelations."  Up until recently, at least three clear instances of false translation by Joseph Smith were widely known: the Book of Mormon, the Book of Abraham, and the Kinderhook Plates. In the summer of 2015, something truly remarkable happened.  A BYU undergraduate, along with her professor, discovered a fourth example of false translation, and yet another example of plagiarism on the part of Joseph Smith - this time in the canonized "Joseph Smith Translation" of the Holy Bible (found in modern LDS scripture) Join me and scholar Haley Wilson Lemmón today as we discuss this groundbreaking research she conducted at BYU, along side professor Thomas A. Wayment -- as together they discovered literally hundreds of instances where Joseph Smith plagiarized portions of the Joseph Smith "Translation" of the Bible directly from Adam Clarke's Bible Commentary. Today's story includes: Haley's early years growing up as a highly devout Mormon girl and young woman who struggled significantly with undiagnosed religious anxiety (possibly scrupulosity). Haley's LDS mission to Panama. Haley's discovery of Joseph Smith's plagiarism, as she was working as a BYU undergraduate research assistant under Dr. Thomas A. Wayment. Haley's deep struggle with her Mormon faith once she began studying the authenticity of Mormon scripture and other truth claims. Haley's troubling brush with the BYU Honor Code Office, which almost resulted in her being expelled from BYU. How Haley's name was almost removed from the publishing of her research with Dr. Wayment. A review of Haley's current views on LDS Church truth claims. As a part of this interview, we will be discussing in-depth the article/chapter "A Recently Recovered Source: The Use of Adam Clarke’s Bible Commentary in Joseph Smith’s Bible Translation" that she co-authored with Thomas A. Wayment, which recently appeared in the newly released book "Producing Ancient Scripture: Joseph Smith's Translation Projects in the Development of Mormon Christianity," edited by Michael MacKay, Mark Ashurst-McGee, and Brian M. Hauglid.

Emmanuel, Austin and Sean are back with the second part of the trilogy on the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. The trio move away from the topic of faith and onto the heavily debated subject of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints' translations. Austin provides vibrant incite on the events regarding the Kinderhook Plates and Joseph Smith's translations of the papyrus, which led to the formation of the Book of Abraham. Be sure to give this episode a listen before the craze of classes starts up again! Below are also the sources, which the trio used to support their side. Please give it a look and if you have any questions, check out the sources and/or send us an email! https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ynYHVQV8jpDQcorb2SQTmC3nOIbaOAhrRHvIe9mNO8A/edit?usp=sharing solutionskcpodcast@gmail.com --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/solutions-kc/support

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On this episode, Joseph Smith is a fraud. We discuss two occurrences in Nauvoo which prove that Jo didn’t have access to any knowledge that people of his day did. First is the Greek Psalter incident where a guy proved that Jo had no idea what language was on the parchment. After that is the entirety of the Kinderhook Plates incident, which proves beyond any shadow of a doubt that Jo unabashedly knew he was a fraud. These incidents, coupled with the Book of Abraham in early 1842, reveal Jo to be the liar he was. Links: Henry Caswell “Three Days At Nauvoo” Greek Psalter expose http://www.olivercowdery.com/smithhome/1840s/1842Cas1.htm Greek Psalter MormonThink article http://www.mormonthink.com/greekweb.htm Henry Caswell: Anti-Mormon Extraordinaire https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=https://www.google.com/&httpsredir=1&article=3085&context=byusq Hugh Nibley The Myth Makers (1961) https://archive.org/details/mythmakers00nibl/page/190 May 30, 1843 New York Herald signed “A Gentile” https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030313/1843-05-30/ed-1/seq-2/ Kinderhook Plates FAIRMormon article https://www.fairmormon.org/answers/Forgeries_related_to_Mormonism/Joseph_Smith_and_the_Kinderhook_Plates Kinderhook Plates MormonThink Article http://www.mormonthink.com/kinderhookweb.htm#significantref3 Improvement Era Aug 1961 https://archive.org/stream/improvementera6509unse#page/n61/mode/2up 1981 Kinderhook Plate LDS.org article https://www.lds.org/study/ensign/1981/08/kinderhook-plates-brought-to-joseph-smith-appear-to-be-a-nineteenth-century-hoax?lang=eng Show links: Website http://nakedmormonismpodcast.com Twitter @NakedMormonism Facebook https://www.facebook.com/pages/Naked-Mormonism/370003839816311 Patreon http://patreon.com/nakedmormonism Music by Jason Comeau http://aloststateofmind.com/ Show Artwork http://weirdmormonshit.com/ Legal Counsel http://patorrez.com/

In May 1843, a set of bell-shaped brass plates were brought to Joseph Smith to see if he would translate them. These plates were later revealed to be forgeries meant to expose Joseph as a fraud. Historical evidence, however, suggests that Joseph wasn't fooled. He briefly examined them and compared them other ancient writings in his possession, and may have offered an ordinary translation of a "portion" of them. But there is no evidence Joseph ever sought or received revelation about these plates, and he never produced a full translation. Joseph's "gift and power" to translate did not work on these bogus plates, and he lost interest in them quickly. Read at bit.ly/know454

The Kinderhook Plates and Other Foibles (Earl Erskine)

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9: Kinderhook Plates -- Letter to a CES Director by Jeremy T. Runnells

John, Zilpha, and Amy talk with Bill and Jesse about Joseph Smith's translation of the Kinderhook Plates. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/mormonexpression/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/mormonexpression/support