Lawyer Life Podcast

Darlene and Mike wrap up season 6 by discussing the default treatment of opposing lawyers as instant adversaries. They ask whether an approach of respectful problem solving can lead to better results (and should become the profession's new default). PLUS: Mike's guru morning, Darlene revisits classic stories from her youth, and Mike's memory from his first year orientation BBQ. SPONSOR This episode is sponsored by Helcim. Helcim makes credit card processing for your business easy, simple, and affordable. Visit Helcim.com/lawyerlife to get your first $6,000 worth of processing free! SHOW NOTES: Check out Hit Refresh: The Quest to Rediscover Microsoft's Soul and Imagine a Better Future for Everyone, Satya Nadella, https://www.amazon.ca/Hit-Refresh-Rediscover-Microsofts-Everyone-ebook/dp/B01HOT5SQA FEEDBACK, CREDITS & REVIEW Please give us feedback here: http://bit.ly/LLPFeedback Music credit: Thanks to Nick Fowler who composed and performed our theme music. To learn about his work, visit teknologyproductions.wixsite.com/teknology. Art credit: Thanks to Jenny Henderson for our LLP artwork. To learn about Jenny and see her work, visit: https://www.jennyhendersonstudio.com/ Please rate, review, subscribe and comment. We would so appreciate your feedback (I mean, we're just two lawyers trying to podcast).

Darlene and Mike are joined by Heidi K. Brown (Author, Professor of Law at Brooklyn Law School) to discuss her book Untangling Fear In Lawyering. The group considers whether lawyers can improve performance and well-being by embracing confidence, understanding what drives fear, and adopting practices to first acknowledge it, and then work to eliminate it. PLUS: Darlene goes west, a great show recommendation, and is Mike Scandinavian? SHOW NOTES Check out Heidi's book "Untangling Fear in Lawyering: A Four-Step Journey Toward Powerful Advocacy" here: https://www.americanbar.org/products/inv/book/358687385/(USA) and here: https://www.amazon.ca/Untangling-Fear-Lawyering-Four-Step-Powerful/dp/1641053526 (Canada). This episode is sponsored by Helcim. Helcim makes credit card processing for your business easy, simple, and affordable. Visit Helcim.com/lawyerlife to get your first $6,000 worth of processing free. FEEDBACK, CREDITS & REVIEW Please give us feedback here: http://bit.ly/LLPFeedback Music credit: Thanks to Nick Fowler who composed and performed our theme music. To learn about his work, visit teknologyproductions.wixsite.com/teknology. Art credit: Thanks to Jenny Henderson for our LLP artwork. To learn about Jenny and see her work, visit: https://www.jennyhendersonstudio.com/ Please rate, review, subscribe and comment. We would so appreciate your feedback (I mean, we're just two lawyers trying to podcast).

Darlene and Mike are joined by Sara Robertson (Limehorse.com) to learn how acknowledging identity, principles, and empathetic abilities can help lawyers avoid bad outcomes. PLUS: Golden Girls, a genius road trip hack, and sartorial reviews of My Cousin Vinny. THANK YOU Thanks to dealcloser, our sponsor for this episode! Fill out the form at the link below to get an extended 30-day free trial. If you like what you see after your free trial ends, dealcloser will give Lawyer Life Podcast listeners 15% off your monthly or annual dealcloser subscription for one year: https://cloud.dealcloser.com/lawyerlife. FEEDBACK, CREDITS & REVIEW Please give us feedback here: http://bit.ly/LLPFeedback Music credit: Thanks to Nick Fowler who composed and performed our theme music. To learn about his work, visit teknologyproductions.wixsite.com/teknology. Art credit: Thanks to Jenny Henderson for our LLP artwork. To learn about Jenny and see her work, visit: https://www.jennyhendersonstudio.com/ Please rate, review, subscribe and comment. We would so appreciate your feedback (I mean, we're just two lawyers trying to podcast).

Darlene and Mike discuss the downsides of overthinking. With a little help from books on the subject, they propose that eliminating negative soundtracks and distracting noise is actually key to the effective practice of law. PLUS: The power of Lego, a document from Darlene's past appears, and Mike finds the perfect metaphor for self-improvement efforts. THANK YOU Thanks to dealcloser, our sponsor for this episode! Fill out the form at the link below to get an extended 30-day free trial. If you like what you see after your free trial ends, dealcloser will give Lawyer Life Podcast listeners 15% off your monthly or annual dealcloser subscription for one year: https://cloud.dealcloser.com/lawyerlife. LINKS: Soundtracks: The Surprising Solution to Overthinking by Jon Acuff: https://www.amazon.ca/Soundtracks-Jon-Acuff/dp/1540900800#:~:text=In%20Soundtracks%2C%20New%20York%20Times,the%20soundtracks%20that%20define%20you. NOISE: A FLAW IN HUMAN JUDGMENT by Daniel Kahneman, OLIVIER SIBONY, Cass R. Sunstein: https://www.amazon.ca/Noise-Human-Judgment-Daniel-Kahneman/dp/0316451401 FEEDBACK, CREDITS & REVIEW: Please give us feedback here: http://bit.ly/LLPFeedback Music credit: Thanks to Nick Fowler who composed and performed our theme music. To learn about his work, visit teknologyproductions.wixsite.com/teknology. Art credit: Thanks to Jenny Henderson for our LLP artwork. To learn about Jenny and see her work, visit: https://www.jennyhendersonstudio.com/ Please rate, review, subscribe and comment. We would so appreciate your feedback (I mean, we're just two lawyers trying to podcast).

Darlene and Mike discuss whether 'hacking it' should be the goal, or whether it can actually be a sign of strength to choose another path. PLUS: Darlene hates cakes, Mike (desperately) offers his Alvin and the Chipmunks impression, and is Mike's obsession with his grass contagious? THANK YOU Thanks to dealcloser, our sponsor for this episode! Fill out the form at the link below to get an extended 30-day free trial. If you like what you see after your free trial ends, dealcloser will give Lawyer Life Podcast listeners 15% off your monthly or annual dealcloser subscription for one year: https://cloud.dealcloser.com/lawyerlife. NOTES: The Obstacle Is the Way by Ryan Holiday https://ryanholiday.net/ryan-holiday-books/ FEEDBACK, CREDITS & REVIEW Please give us feedback here: http://bit.ly/LLPFeedback Music credit: Thanks to Nick Fowler who composed and performed our theme music. To learn about his work, visit teknologyproductions.wixsite.com/teknology. Art credit: Thanks to Jenny Henderson for our LLP artwork. To learn about Jenny and see her work, visit: https://www.jennyhendersonstudio.com/ Please rate, review, subscribe and comment. We would so appreciate your feedback (I mean, we're just two lawyers trying to podcast).

Darlene and Mike discuss the profession's misconception of high performers, and what TRULY makes a high performing person that practices law. PLUS: Mike talks about his grass (again), learning from the Billy Beane test case, and the importance of humility. CREDITS: Brendon Burchard – High Performance Habits: How Extraordinary People Become That Way (https://www.amazon.ca/High-Performance-Habits-Extraordinary-People/dp/1401952852) THANK YOU Thanks to dealcloser, our sponsor for this episode! Fill out this form to get an extended 30-day free trial. If you like what you see after your free trial ends, dealcloser will give Lawyer Life Podcast listeners 15% off your monthly or annual dealcloser subscription for one year: https://cloud.dealcloser.com/lawyerlife. FEEDBACK, CREDITS & REVIEW Please give us feedback here: http://bit.ly/LLPFeedback Music credit: Thanks to Nick Fowler who composed and performed our theme music. To learn about his work, visit teknologyproductions.wixsite.com/teknology. Art credit: Thanks to Jenny Henderson for our LLP artwork. To learn about Jenny and see her work, visit: https://www.jennyhendersonstudio.com/ Please rate, review, subscribe and comment. We would so appreciate your feedback (I mean, we're just two lawyers trying to podcast).

Darlene and Mike kick off season 6 with Nyssa Chopra (more on her below), discussing how mentor-mentee relationships work best. PLUS: Mike and Darlene have an anniversary, entrepreneurship in the legal profession, and hating leg workouts. This episode is sponsored by Helcim. Helcim makes credit card processing for your business easy, simple, and affordable. Visit Helcim.com/lawyerlife to get your first $6,000 worth of processing free. FOR MORE ON NYSSA AND MENTOR IN LAW See: https://mentorinlaw.org/ See: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nyssapchopra/ FEEDBACK, CREDITS & REVIEW Please give us feedback here: http://bit.ly/LLPFeedback Music credit: Thanks to Nick Fowler who composed and performed our theme music. To learn about his work, visit teknologyproductions.wixsite.com/teknology. Art credit: Thanks to Jenny Henderson for our LLP artwork. To learn about Jenny and see her work, visit: https://www.jennyhendersonstudio.com/ Please rate, review, subscribe and comment. We would so appreciate your feedback (I mean, we're just two lawyers trying to podcast).

Darlene and Mike check-in and discuss the tools they currently use to get through the uncertainty and challenges of the pandemic. PLUS: Darlene makes a mixtape, Mike has a spa day, and one of the hosts discloses their life-long fear of caves. FEEDBACK, CREDITS & REVIEW Please give us feedback here: http://bit.ly/LLPFeedback Music credit: Thanks to Nick Fowler who composed and performed our theme music. To learn about his work, visit teknologyproductions.wixsite.com/teknology. Art credit: Thanks to Jenny Henderson for our LLP artwork. To learn about Jenny and see her work, visit: https://www.jennyhendersonstudio.com/ Please rate, review, subscribe and comment. We would so appreciate your feedback (I mean, we're just two lawyers trying to podcast).

Darlene and Mike close off this short season by discussing some great pieces of advice, borrowed from other innovative lawyers and some helpful books. This program contains 30 minutes of Professionalism content accredited by the Law Society of Ontario. This short season is sponsored by Helcim. Helcim makes credit card processing for your business easy, simple, and affordable. Visit Helcim.com/lawyerlife to get your first $6,000 worth of processing free. PLUS: The importance of process, considering your track record, and why a B+ mentality is important. And is Mike just a piece of AI programmed by Darlene? READ: Tiger Tactics: Powerful Strategies for Winning Law Firms – Book by Billie Tarascio, Ryan McKeen, and William Umansky The Small Firm RoadMap – Lawyerist FEEDBACK, CREDITS & REVIEW Please give us feedback here: http://bit.ly/LLPFeedback Music credit: Thanks to Nick Fowler who composed and performed our theme music. To learn about his work, visit teknologyproductions.wixsite.com/teknology. Art credit: Thanks to Jenny Henderson for our LLP artwork. To learn about Jenny and see her work, visit: https://www.jennyhendersonstudio.com/ Please rate, review, subscribe and comment. We would so appreciate your feedback (I mean, we're just two lawyers trying to podcast).

Darlene and Mike are joined by Kimberly Y. Bennett to discuss how successfully 'building your own thing' relies on choosing a style that most aligns with your skills, passion, and worldview. This program contains 30 minutes of Professionalism content accredited by the Law Society of Ontario. ***This episode was recorded a couple of weeks ago, before it was announced that Kimberly joined Fidu (fidulegal.com) as Co-Founder. Congrats, Kimberly!*** PLUS: Should lawyers take physics? Should Mike and Darlene start a shovel company? Is Kimberly Mike's new startup guru? SHOW NOTES: Being is the New Doing: A Divine Guide to Owning Your Energy, Time, and Peace of Mind by Radiah Rhodes LINKS Check out https://www.kbennettlaw.com/ FEEDBACK, CREDITS & REVIEW Please give us feedback here: http://bit.ly/LLPFeedback Music credit: Thanks to Nick Fowler who composed and performed our theme music. To learn about his work, visit teknologyproductions.wixsite.com/teknology. Art credit: Thanks to Jenny Henderson for our LLP artwork. To learn about Jenny and see her work, visit: https://www.jennyhendersonstudio.com/ Please rate, review, subscribe and comment. We would so appreciate your feedback (I mean, we're just two lawyers trying to podcast).

Darlene and Mike kick-off a short season 5, about building your own practice. This program contains 30 minutes of Professionalism content accredited by the Law Society of Ontario. They discuss innovation, entrepreneurship, and how knowing your passions will help you reach fulfillment. This short season is sponsored by Helcim. Helcim makes credit card processing for your business easy, simple, and affordable. Visit Helcim.com/lawyerlife to get your first $6,000 worth of processing free. PLUS: Mike loves silence (?!), Darlene goes virtual (again?), and the team angers "big bureaucracy." FEEDBACK, CREDITS & REVIEW Mentions: Green Circle Food Hub - virtualfarmersmarket.ca "Think Like A Monk" by Jay Shetty "Bull's Eye: Targeting Your Life for Real Financial Wealth and Personal Fulfillment" by Robert Kennedy Please give us feedback here: http://bit.ly/LLPFeedback Music credit: Thanks to Nick Fowler who composed and performed our theme music. To learn about his work, visit teknologyproductions.wixsite.com/teknology. Art credit: Thanks to Jenny Henderson for our LLP artwork. To learn about Jenny and see her work, visit: https://www.jennyhendersonstudio.com/ Please rate, review, subscribe and comment. We would so appreciate your feedback (I mean, we're just two lawyers trying to podcast).

Darlene and Mike are joined by Cat Moon to discuss how the business of law is taught. Cat is the perfect person to speak about this topic, as she is Vanderbilt University's Director of Innovation Design for the Program on Law and Innovation. PLUS: A debate on exercise listening and the brilliance of Seth Meyers. SHOW NOTES: -Check out Cat on Twitter at @inspiredcat -This interview was recorded in the late fall of 2019 -Sorry for Mike's bad audio! FEEDBACK, CREDITS & REVIEW Please give us feedback here: http://bit.ly/LLPFeedback Music credit: Thanks to Nick Fowler who composed and performed our theme music. To learn about his work, visit teknologyproductions.wixsite.com/teknology. Art credit: Thanks to Jenny Henderson for our LLP artwork. To learn about Jenny and see her work, visit: https://www.jennyhendersonstudio.com/ Please rate, review, subscribe and comment. We would so appreciate your feedback (I mean, we're just two lawyers trying to podcast).

Darlene and Mike discuss a new way to set goals. The process is a mix of their 2019 approach (inspired by Jack Canfield) and Colin Tipping's philosophy in his book Radical Manifestation. PLUS: Mike is a know-it all (again), and the problem with fruit stickers. SHOW NOTES: Jack Canfield's goal setting categories: 1) Work and Career 2) Finances 3) Relationships 4) Contribution to Community 5) Recreation and free time 6) Health and fitness 7) Personal goals LINKS For more on Jack Canfield's work, visit https://www.jackcanfield.com/ Fore more on Colin Tipping's work, visit http://www.radicalforgiveness.com/ FEEDBACK, CREDITS & REVIEW Please give us feedback here: http://bit.ly/LLPFeedback Music credit: Thanks to Nick Fowler who composed and performed our theme music. To learn about his work, visit teknologyproductions.wixsite.com/teknology. Art credit: Thanks to Jenny Henderson for our LLP artwork. To learn about Jenny and see her work, visit: https://www.jennyhendersonstudio.com/ Please rate, review, subscribe and comment. We would so appreciate your feedback (I mean, we're just two lawyers trying to podcast).

Darlene and Mike put 2020 to bed by revisiting the conversations they shared on the podcast. PLUS: Mike's favourite show of 2020, an (unfortunate) musical contribution from Mike's kids, and Darlene gets choked up. Remember to visit limehorse.com and use the code "LAWYERLIFEPOD" for 20% off! FEEDBACK, CREDITS & REVIEW Please give us feedback here: http://bit.ly/LLPFeedback Music credit: Thanks to Nick Fowler who composed and performed our theme music. To learn about his work, visit teknologyproductions.wixsite.com/teknology. Art credit: Thanks to Jenny Henderson for our LLP artwork. To learn about Jenny and see her work, visit: https://www.jennyhendersonstudio.com/ Please rate, review, subscribe and comment. We would so appreciate your feedback (I mean, we're just two lawyers trying to podcast). MUSIC CREDIT IN INTRO: The Night Before Christmas by Donnie Ozone (c) copyright 2019 Licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution (3.0) license. http://dig.ccmixter.org/files/donnieozone/60775 Ft: SackJo22 Track is edited (looped)

Darlene and Mike are joined by Graham MacLennan (lawyer, host of the Cheftimony podcast) to discuss lawyers that follow their passions, and find fulfillment outside of their day job. PLUS: Mike's office fridge, how to clean your cast iron pan, and food talk! LINKS: Check out Graham's podcast here: https://cheftimony.com/ FEEDBACK, CREDITS & REVIEW Please give us feedback here: http://bit.ly/LLPFeedback Music credit: Thanks to Nick Fowler who composed and performed our theme music. To learn about his work, visit teknologyproductions.wixsite.com/teknology. Art credit: Thanks to Jenny Henderson for our LLP artwork. To learn about Jenny and see her work, visit: https://www.jennyhendersonstudio.com/ Please rate, review, subscribe and comment. We would so appreciate your feedback (I mean, we're just two lawyers trying to podcast).

Darlene and Mike are "joined by a special guest" to make a big announcement. PLUS: Darlene goes for a power walk, Mike compares himself to Michael Barbaro (for all the wrong reasons), and the holiday season starts early on the pod. FEEDBACK, CREDITS & REVIEW Please give us feedback here: http://bit.ly/LLPFeedback Music credit: Thanks to Nick Fowler who composed and performed our theme music. To learn about his work, visit teknologyproductions.wixsite.com/teknology. Art credit: Thanks to Jenny Henderson for our LLP artwork. To learn about Jenny and see her work, visit: https://www.jennyhendersonstudio.com/ Please rate, review, subscribe and comment. We would so appreciate your feedback (I mean, we're just two lawyers trying to podcast).

Darlene and Mike are joined by David Moscrop to discuss the 2020 Presidential Election. The group discuss the rule of law, lawyer ethics, and the health of democracy more generally (no pressure!). PLUS: Beards, past-tense texting, and early holiday decorations. SHOW NOTES Learn more about David here: https://www.davidmoscrop.com/ Buy David's book here: Too Dumb for Democracy?https://gooselane.com/products/too-dumb-for-democracy FEEDBACK, CREDITS & REVIEW Please give us feedback here: http://bit.ly/LLPFeedback Music credit: Thanks to Nick Fowler who composed and performed our theme music. To learn about his work, visit teknologyproductions.wixsite.com/teknology. Art credit: Thanks to Jenny Henderson for our LLP artwork. To learn about Jenny and see her work, visit: https://www.jennyhendersonstudio.com/ Please rate, review, subscribe and comment. We would so appreciate your feedback (I mean, we're just two lawyers trying to podcast).

Darlene and Mike focus on the life and legacy of Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg. SHOW NOTES: https://www.marieclaire.com/career-advice/a34019494/caitlin-moran-more-than-a-woman-interview/ To donate in RBG’s memory: Act Blue: https://secure.actblue.com/ ACLU - https://www.aclu.org/ National Women’s Law Centre - https://nwlc.org/ Center for Reproductive Rights - https://beta.reproductiverights.org/ “I do think I was born under a very bright star” RBG FEEDBACK, CREDITS & REVIEW Please give us feedback here: http://bit.ly/LLPFeedback Music credit: Thanks to Nick Fowler who composed and performed our theme music. To learn about his work, visit teknologyproductions.wixsite.com/teknology. Art credit: Thanks to Jenny Henderson for our LLP artwork. To learn about Jenny and see her work, visit: https://www.jennyhendersonstudio.com/ Please rate, review, subscribe and comment. We would so appreciate your feedback (I mean, we're just two lawyers trying to podcast).

Darlene and Mike catch up after this unprecedented summer – they discuss what they’ve learned from the COVID-19 pandemic and what might be next. PLUS: Mike the woodworker, virtual weddings, and silverlings. SHOW NOTES: Check out our “High Performance” episode (and oldy, but a goody) Susan Cain, “Quiet: The Power of Introverts in a World that Can’t Stop Talking” - https://www.amazon.ca/Quiet-Power-Introverts-World-Talking/dp/0307352153 FEEDBACK, CREDITS & REVIEW Please give us feedback here: http://bit.ly/LLPFeedback Music credit: Thanks to Nick Fowler who composed and performed our theme music. To learn about his work, visit teknologyproductions.wixsite.com/teknology. Art credit: Thanks to Jenny Henderson for our LLP artwork. To learn about Jenny and see her work, visit: https://www.jennyhendersonstudio.com/ Please rate, review, subscribe and comment. We would so appreciate your feedback (I mean, we're just two lawyers trying to podcast).

Darlene and Mike are joined by Mike Whalen, author of Lawyer Forward, to discuss how lawyers can find their place in the future of law. PLUS: A case of the Mondays, Star Trek, and more gardening talk from Mike (and Mike). LINKS Buy Lawyer Forward here: https://www.lawyerforward.com/ FEEDBACK, CREDITS & REVIEW Please give us feedback here: http://bit.ly/LLPFeedback Music credit: Thanks to Nick Fowler who composed and perf ormed our theme music. To learn about his work, visit teknologyproductions.wixsite.com/teknology. Art credit: Thanks to Jenny Henderson for our LLP artwork. To learn about Jenny and see her work, visit: https://www.jennyhendersonstudio.com/ Please rate, review, subscribe and comment. We would so appreciate your feedback (I mean, we're just two lawyers trying to podcast).

Darlene and Mike are joined by Lily Coodin (Bay Street lawyer, Legal Expert on CTV's The Social) to discuss how we can change the profession to help parents thrive. PLUS: Mike and Lily's history, "Givers" in a workplace, and developing loyal employees. FEEDBACK, CREDITS & REVIEW Please give us feedback here: http://bit.ly/LLPFeedback Music credit: Thanks to Nick Fowler who composed and performed our theme music. To learn about his work, visit teknologyproductions.wixsite.com/teknology. Art credit: Thanks to Jenny Henderson for our LLP artwork. To learn about Jenny and see her work, visit: https://www.jennyhendersonstudio.com/ Please rate, review, subscribe and comment. We would so appreciate your feedback (I mean, we're just two lawyers trying to podcast).

Darlene and Mike are joined by Juda Strawczynski (Director, practicePRO at the Lawyers' Professional Indemnity Company (LawPro)) to discuss whether risk can be a useful tool for lawyers. PLUS: Using checklists, bad internet, and helping artists during these times. FEEDBACK, CREDITS & REVIEW Please give us feedback here: http://bit.ly/LLPFeedback Music credit: Thanks to Nick Fowler who composed and performed our theme music. To learn about his work, visit teknologyproductions.wixsite.com/teknology. Art credit: Thanks to Jenny Henderson for our LLP artwork. To learn about Jenny and see her work, visit: https://www.jennyhendersonstudio.com/ Please rate, review, subscribe, share, and comment. We would so appreciate your feedback (I mean, we're just two lawyers trying to podcast).

Darlene and Mike are joined by Hadiya Roderique to discuss anti-racism, creating sustainable change, and what (if anything) has changed since she wrote her Black on Bay Street essay in 2017. PLUS: Hadiya shares her big idea of a restorative justice system, rather than punitive justice system, which would help us to attack the roots of crime and get out of the system. SHOW NOTES: So You Want to Talk About Race – Ijeoma Oluo https://www.sealpress.com/titles/ijeoma-oluo/so-you-want-to-talk-about-race/9781580056779/ Me and White Supremacy – Layla Sa’ad https://www.meandwhitesupremacybook.com/ HADIYA'S RECOMMENDED READING LIST: So You Want To Talk About Race, Ijeoma Oluo The Skin We’re In, Desmond Cole Policing Black Lives, Robyn Maynard How To Be An Anti-Racist, Dr. Ibram X. Kendi Me And White Supremacy, Layla Saad The New Jim Crow: Mass Incarceration in the Age of Colorblindness, Michelle Alexander https://www.goodgoodgood.co/anti-racism-resources ORGANIZATIONS YOU CAN SUPPORT: Sentencing and Parole Project: https://sentencingproject.ca/ Black Legal Action Centre https://www.blacklegalactioncentre.ca/ FEEDBACK, CREDITS & REVIEW Please give us feedback here: http://bit.ly/LLPFeedback Music credit: Thanks to Nick Fowler who composed and performed our theme music. To learn about his work, visit teknologyproductions.wixsite.com/teknology. Art credit: Thanks to Jenny Henderson for our LLP artwork. To learn about Jenny and see her work, visit: https://www.jennyhendersonstudio.com/ Please rate, review, subscribe and comment. We would so appreciate your feedback (I mean, we're just two lawyers trying to podcast).

We re-post this episode as a resource, specific to the profession, for those seeking to learn more about systemic racism and its impacts on practicing lawyers from marginalized communities. You can learn more about Catherine and her work at: www.mcatherinechang.com/ _____________________________________________ Darlene and Mike discuss belonging with career coach Catherine Chang. The group discusses how we can foster workplace cultures that provide a place for all to feel authentic and thrive. Show Notes: Visit Catherine's website: www.mcatherinechang.com/ Read (if you haven't already) Hadiya Roderique's Black on Bay Street article: www.theglobeandmail.com/news/toronto/…icle36823806/.

Darlene and Mike discuss their privilege, how lawyers can help fight systemic racism, and the effects of the ongoing pandemic. LINKS • Education: So You Want to Talk About Race by Ijeoma Oluo - https://www.sealpress.com/titles/ijeoma-oluo/so-you-want-to-talk-about-race/9781580056779/ • Kids Book: The Proudest Blue https://socialjusticebooks.org/the-proudest-blue-a-story-of-hijab-and-family/ • Poem: Notes for my son: https://allpoetry.com/Notes-For-My-Son - FEEDBACK, CREDITS & REVIEW Please give us feedback here: http://bit.ly/LLPFeedback Music credit: Thanks to Nick Fowler who composed and performed our theme music. To learn about his work, visit teknologyproductions.wixsite.com/teknology. Art credit: Thanks to Jenny Henderson for our LLP artwork. To learn about Jenny and see her work, visit: https://www.jennyhendersonstudio.com/ Please rate, review, subscribe and comment. We would so appreciate your feedback (I mean, we're just two lawyers trying to podcast).

Over coffee, Darlene and Mike discuss working during the pandemic, face-to-face vs. Zoom, and calculating risk in these times. FEEDBACK, CREDITS & REVIEW Please give us feedback here: http://bit.ly/LLPFeedback Music credit: Thanks to Nick Fowler who composed and performed our theme music. To learn about his work, visit teknologyproductions.wixsite.com/teknology. Art credit: Thanks to Jenny Henderson for our LLP artwork. To learn about Jenny and see her work, visit: https://www.jennyhendersonstudio.com/ Please rate, review, subscribe and comment. We would so appreciate your feedback (I mean, we're just two lawyers trying to podcast).

In this short episode, Darlene and Mike share a coffee and discuss how they are doing in isolation. PLUS: Oxford commas, the daily brain drain, and oscillating while isolating. FEEDBACK, CREDITS & REVIEW Please give us feedback here: http://bit.ly/LLPFeedback Music credit: Thanks to Nick Fowler who composed and performed our theme music. To learn about his work, visit teknologyproductions.wixsite.com/teknology. Art credit: Thanks to Jenny Henderson for our LLP artwork. To learn about Jenny and see her work, visit: https://www.jennyhendersonstudio.com/ Please rate, review, subscribe and comment. We would so appreciate your feedback (I mean, we're just two lawyers trying to podcast).

Darlene and Mike are joined by their colleagues(Vivian and Chris) to discuss the Top 5 Time-Savers for in-house teams. PLUS: Another gardening update from Mike (when will he stop this madness?), Darlene's online scale issue, and Zoom call problems. To learn more about Chris or Vivian's practice, visit interalia-law.com. FEEDBACK, CREDITS & REVIEW Please give us feedback here: http://bit.ly/LLPFeedback Music credit: Thanks to Nick Fowler who composed and performed our theme music. To learn about his work, visit teknologyproductions.wixsite.com/teknology. Art credit: Thanks to Jenny Henderson for our LLP artwork. To learn about Jenny and see her work, visit: https://www.jennyhendersonstudio.com/ Please rate, review, subscribe and comment. We would so appreciate your feedback (I mean, we're just two lawyers trying to podcast).

Sara Robertson returns help us through these difficult times. With Darlene and Mike, Sara provides practical tips for dealing with stress, anxiety, and uncertainty. PLUS: Mike’s new gardening podcast, Darlene makes a hashtag, and looking through Mike’s front window. SHOW NOTES Sara’s book recommendations: • Man’s Search For Meaning -Viktor Frankel • Radical Acceptance - Tara Brach • When Things Fall Apart - Pema Chodron • The Obstacle Is The Way - Ryan Holiday • Resilience - Rick Hanson • Atomic Habits - James Clear • Connected - Nicholas Christakis and James Fowler Sara’s Daily Routine Morning power hour includes: • A pint of water on waking • Vitamins • Make my bed • 5-15 minutes Dynamic movement (sun salutations or mat Pilates) • 5-10 min hip opening stretches with strap • 5-10 minutes rad roller (Achilles, calf, IT band, glutes, quads, pecs, back, neck in that order) • 10 minutes meditation ending with 3 cycles Wim Hof breathwork • 5 Minute Journal a.m. entry (which takes care of gratitude, MIT and daily affirmation) • Brush Teeth • Coffee ☕️ Midday • Box breathing/meditation/movement as needed Evening • No technology 1 hour before bedtime • Yoga Nidra as needed • 5 minute journal p.m. entry • Herbal tea • Large glass of water w Calm Magnesium powder to promote relaxation *adjust as needed LINKS • Check out Limehorse.com FEEDBACK, CREDITS & REVIEW Please give us feedback here: http://bit.ly/LLPFeedback Music credit: Thanks to Nick Fowler who composed and performed our theme music. To learn about his work, visit teknologyproductions.wixsite.com/teknology. Art credit: Thanks to Jenny Henderson for our LLP artwork. To learn about Jenny and see her work, visit: https://www.jennyhendersonstudio.com/ Please rate, review, subscribe and comment. We would so appreciate your feedback (I mean, we're just two lawyers trying to podcast).

Darlene and Mike discuss how best to deal with the 'new normal' that we must deal with for some time. PLUS: Darlene's hilarious grocery run, Mike makes mistakes, and finding a silver lining. FEEDBACK, CREDITS & REVIEW Please give us feedback here: http://bit.ly/LLPFeedback Music credit: Thanks to Nick Fowler who composed and performed our theme music. To learn about his work, visit teknologyproductions.wixsite.com/teknology. Art credit: Thanks to Jenny Henderson for our LLP artwork. To learn about Jenny and see her work, visit: https://www.jennyhendersonstudio.com/ Please rate, review, subscribe and comment. We would so appreciate your feedback (I mean, we're just two lawyers trying to podcast).

Darlene and Mike are joined by Erin Gerstenzang to discuss her innovative efforts to educate and empower others. PLUS: Growing arugula, coffee talk, and all this podcasting fame goes to Mike's head. *This episode was pre-recorded in early February, so we might talk about some outdated stuff. Thanks for your understanding* FEEDBACK, CREDITS & REVIEW Please give us feedback here: http://bit.ly/LLPFeedback Music credit: Thanks to Nick Fowler who composed and performed our theme music. To learn about his work, visit teknologyproductions.wixsite.com/teknology. Art credit: Thanks to Jenny Henderson for our LLP artwork. To learn about Jenny and see her work, visit: https://www.jennyhendersonstudio.com/ Please rate, review, subscribe and comment. We would so appreciate your feedback (I mean, we're just two lawyers trying to podcast).

Darlene and Mike end their (brief) hiatus to introduce Season 4: Big Ideas. They discuss what to expect with this new season, focused on practical changes that can cause huge results for the legal profession. PLUS: The Pod gets a face-lift, Darlene eats deep dish, and a new career path for Mike. FEEDBACK, CREDITS & REVIEW Please give us feedback here: http://bit.ly/LLPFeedback Music credit: Thanks to Nick Fowler who composed and performed our theme music. To learn about his work, visit teknologyproductions.wixsite.com/teknology. Art credit: Thanks to Jenny Henderson for our LLP artwork. To learn about Jenny and see her work, visit: https://www.jennyhendersonstudio.com/ Please rate, review, subscribe and comment. We would so appreciate your feedback (I mean, we're just two lawyers trying to podcast).

Darlene and Mike wrap up Season 3 by discussing the key to high performance: commitment. Focus on the stuff that works, get rid of the stuff that doesn't. PLUS: Mike loves Cheer, Darlene is a punk, and a hint at Season 4's focus. SHOW NOTES:The Heartbreaking Effects of Being Only Partly Committed to Most Things:https://zenhabits.net/the-heartbreaking-effects-of-being-only-partly-committed-to-most-things/ FEEDBACK, CREDITS & REVIEW Please give us feedback here: http://bit.ly/LLPFeedback Music credit: Nick Fowler, composition and performance (teknologyproductions.wixsite.com/teknology) Please rate, review, subscribe and comment. We would so appreciate your feedback (I mean, we're just two lawyers trying to podcast).

Darlene and Mike are joined by wellness expert Rachel Schipper. Leveraging Rachel's past as a lawyer and extensive training in wellness, we discuss small ways that any high performance seeking individual can add a daily wellness routine into their day. PLUS Darlene and Mike compete, Mike learns the difference between fruits and vegetables, and misbehaving bed sheets. LINKS Rachel and Darlene's article: https://lexpert.ca/article/next-stop-on-the-wellness-shift-you-1/ Tapping Solution App: https://www.thetappingsolution.com/blog/tapping-solution-app/ FEEDBACK, CREDITS & REVIEW Please give us feedback here: http://bit.ly/LLPFeedback Music credit: Nick Fowler, composition and performance (teknologyproductions.wixsite.com/teknology) Please rate, review, subscribe and comment. We would so appreciate your feedback (I mean, we're just two lawyers trying to podcast).

Darlene and Mike discuss how to become effective leaders – from Jack Welch to the coach of the Maple Leafs, there is so much to borrow from past and current leaders. PLUS: Harry and Meghan, Mike gets new glasses, and we received correspondence! SHOW NOTES: Adam Grant: Emotional Intelligence is over rated: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/20140930125543-69244073-emotional-intelligence-is-overrated/ Adam Grant – Giver, Matcher, Takers: https://www.adamgrant.net/give-and-take What Does An Emotionally Intelligent Leader Look Like? https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbescoachescouncil/2018/12/14/what-does-an-emotionally-intelligent-leader-look-like/ FEEDBACK, CREDITS & REVIEW Please give us feedback here: http://bit.ly/LLPFeedback Music credit: Nick Fowler, composition and performance (teknologyproductions.wixsite.com/teknology) Please rate, review, subscribe and comment. We would so appreciate your feedback (I mean, we're just two lawyers trying to podcast).

Darlene and Mike discuss tips and tricks for building and maintaining focus. From thinking strategically to providing yourself rewards, there are some great ways to stay dialed in. PLUS: Mike's odd relationship with trail mix, Darlene's book pile, and the pod wins an award! CREDITS: The Distracted Mind: Ancient Brains in a High-Tech World: Adam Gazzaley and Larry D Rosen The Power of Focus: What the World's Greatest Achievers Know about The Secret to Financial Freedom & Success: Jack Canfield FEEDBACK, CREDITS & REVIEW: Please give us feedback here: http://bit.ly/LLPFeedback Music credit: Nick Fowler, composition and performance (teknologyproductions.wixsite.com/teknology) Please rate, review, subscribe and comment. We would so appreciate your feedback (I mean, we're just two lawyers trying to podcast).

Darlene and Mike ‘take a stroll down a snowy memory lane’ and discuss the podcast’s hits (and misses) of 2019. BONUS EPISODE Our special live recording at Osgoode Hall can be heard here: https://bit.ly/369r7zu FEEDBACK, CREDITS & REVIEW Please give us feedback here: http://bit.ly/LLPFeedback Music credit: Nick Fowler, composition and performance (teknologyproductions.wixsite.com/teknology) Please rate, review, subscribe and comment. We would so appreciate your feedback (I mean, we're just two lawyers trying to podcast).

Darlene and Mike talk personal development on Black Friday - can over consumption take you off track? They discuss simplification as an ingredient necessary to fulfill your goals. PLUS: Lego problems, Christmas Lights and people at parties. CHALLENGE: Before you buy something or commit to something new – ask yourself: do I really need this? FEEDBACK, CREDITS & REVIEW Please give us feedback here: http://bit.ly/LLPFeedback Music credit: Nick Fowler, composition and performance (teknologyproductions.wixsite.com/teknology) Please rate, review, subscribe and comment. We would so appreciate your feedback (I mean, we're just two lawyers trying to podcast).

Darlene and Mike discuss Ryan Holiday’s book Ego is the Enemy and apply its lessons to the traits of high performers. PLUS: Marshmallow metaphors, bad pens, and good podcast recommendations. SHOW NOTES: Ego is the Enemy is written by Ryan Holiday and published by PORTFOLIO / PENGUIN. Please give us feedback here: http://bit.ly/LLPFeedback Music credit: Nick Fowler, composition and performance (teknologyproductions.wixsite.com/teknology) Please rate, review, subscribe and comment. We would so appreciate your feedback (I mean, we're just two lawyers trying to podcast).

Darlene and Mike discuss how high performers rely on strong relationships. PLUS: Mike's 'buttery' voice, a Lobby Baby, and Darlene's fall album recommendation. CHALLENGE: 1) Determine what is missing in a relationship you have (or want to have) 2) Find a way to fix the problem SHOW NOTES Why You Never See Your Friends Anymore: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/11/why-dont-i-see-you-anymore/598336/ Learn about the Grant Study: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grant_Study More from the Journal of Social Economic study: https://www.bakadesuyo.com/2012/01/what-are-your-relationships-worth-in-dollars/#ixzz2b33s2ANx Learn about the Longevity Project: https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2011/03/the-longevity-project-decades-of-data-reveal-paths-to-long-life/72290/ Darlene’s album recommendation: https://music.apple.com/ca/album/kiwanuka/1474357932 FEEDBACK, CREDITS & REVIEW Please give us feedback here: http://bit.ly/LLPFeedback Music credit: Nick Fowler, composition and performance (teknologyproductions.wixsite.com/teknology) Please rate, review, subscribe and comment. We would so appreciate your feedback (I mean, we're just two lawyers trying to podcast).

Darlene and Mike chat about avoiding distractions, stopping negativity, and focusing on what matters. PLUS: The importance of heroes, time restricted eating, and Darlene waits in lines a lot. CHALLENGE: -Determine the things that waste your time -Eliminate the biggest thing that wastes your time -Notice when you ruminate FEEDBACK, CREDITS & REVIEW Please give us feedback here: http://bit.ly/LLPFeedback Music credit: Nick Fowler, composition and performance (teknologyproductions.wixsite.com/teknology) Please rate, review, subscribe and comment. We would so appreciate your feedback (I mean, we're just two lawyers trying to podcast).

Darlene and Mike are joined by mindfulness expert Sara Robertson (Owner, Limehorse) to discuss stress, mindfulness, and how mastering our minds will make us better. PLUS: Mike gets self-conscious, a podcast selfie and Robocall gripes. CHALLENGE: -Use box breathing for 3-4 minute periods -Intentionally use your physicality to influence your mind (e.g. posture, smiling) LINKS: Sara Robertson - https://www.limehorse.com/about-lime-horse Get a discount on the MUSE meditation device Darlene is using this week: https://mbsy.co/muse/limehorse FEEDBACK, CREDITS & REVIEW Please give us feedback here: http://bit.ly/LLPFeedback Music credit: Nick Fowler, composition and performance (teknologyproductions.wixsite.com/teknology) Please rate, review, subscribe and comment. We would so appreciate your feedback (I mean, we're just two lawyers trying to podcast).

Darlene and Mike discuss how to challenge yourself and create new wellness habits. PLUS: The pressure on 'providers', following up on last week’s challenge, and an enthusiastic raccoon chat. CHALLENGE -Name one thing you want more of in your life? -Name one thing you want less of? -List a daily practice (up to three 3 rituals) that create momentum in the direction you’d like to go. LINKS Gallup-Sharecare wellbeing index: https://wellbeingindex.sharecare.com/about/ FEEDBACK, CREDITS & REVIEW Please give us feedback here: http://bit.ly/LLPFeedback Music credit: Nick Fowler, composition and performance (teknologyproductions.wixsite.com/teknology) Please rate, review, subscribe and comment. We would so appreciate your feedback (I mean, we're just two lawyers trying to podcast).

Darlene and Mike kick off the third season with a discussion on the foundation of fulfillment. They discuss setting aside ego and determining what really drives us internally. PLUS: Finding flow states, bad dogs and Lights! THIS WEEK'S CHALLENGE: Complete the following lists: 1) 3 things I admire most about people • . • . • . 2) 3 things I value most • . • . • . 3) I want people to describe me as: • LINKS Next stop on the wellness shift: You by Rachel Schipper and Darlene Tonelli: https://www.lexpert.ca/article/next-stop-on-the-wellness-shift-you-1/?p=&sitecode=lex FEEDBACK, CREDIT & REVIEW Please give us feedback here: http://bit.ly/LLPFeedback Music credit: Nick Fowler, composition and performance (teknologyproductions.wixsite.com/teknology) Please rate, review, subscribe and comment. We would so appreciate your feedback (I mean, we're just two lawyers trying to podcast).

Darlene and Mike are joined by Professor Thomas Telfer (Faculty of Law, Western University) to discuss mental well-being and mindfulness at law school. PLUS: Alvin and the Chipmunks, Ferrari brains, and taking five. Check out these articles on Professor Telfer: https://www.canadianlawyermag.com/resources/legal-education/western-law-to-launch-academic-mindfulness-course-this-fall/276124 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/london/western-university-mindfulness-mediation-thomas-telfer-1.4583836 Music credit: Nick Fowler, composition and performance (teknologyproductions.wixsite.com/teknology) Please rate, review, subscribe and comment. We would so appreciate your feedback (I mean, we're just two lawyers trying to podcast).

Mike and Darlene are joined by Bronwyn Tonelli (Student, Oxford Faculty of Law) and Aly Háji(former Clerk, Supreme Court of Canada)to give tips on 'doing' law school. PLUS: #Facebookproblems, flashcards and Mike doing everything wrong. Check out Bronwyn's favourite flashcard app here: https://quizlet.com Music credit: Nick Fowler, composition and performance (teknologyproductions.wixsite.com/teknology) Please rate, review, subscribe and comment. We would so appreciate your feedback (I mean, we're just two lawyers trying to podcast).

Mike and Darlene are joined by Career Development Counsellor Waleska Vernon (University of Toronto Faculty of Law) to discuss how law students can best position themselves for a fulfilling career. PLUS: tips on self-reflection, the strengths of generalists, and Mike talks Teen Packs. Music credit: Nick Fowler, composition and performance (teknologyproductions.wixsite.com/teknology) Please rate, review, subscribe and comment. We would so appreciate your feedback (I mean, we're just two lawyers trying to podcast).

Dean Adam Dodek (uOttawa Common Law) helps Darlene and Mike kick of Season 2: Back To School. The group discusses how students can be fulfilled while studying at law school. PLUS: Mike loves Tegan & Sara, Darlene chats Cheetos(?), and Dean Dodek reminds us to believe in ourselves (awwwww). Music credit: Nick Fowler, composition and performance (teknologyproductions.wixsite.com/teknology) Please rate, review, subscribe and comment. We would so appreciate your feedback (I mean, we're just two lawyers trying to podcast).

Darlene and Mike close off Season 1 with a look back at their favourite moments, and discuss what Season 2 and Season 3 will hold. PLUS: Mike does an Adam Sandler impression (twice, unfortunately), Darlene shows off her broadcasting chops, and much more. LISTENER FEEDBACK FORM is here: http://bit.ly/LLPFeedback Please let us know what you think of the Pod! Music credit: Nick Fowler, composition and performance (teknologyproductions.wixsite.com/teknology) Please rate, review, subscribe and comment. We would so appreciate your feedback (I mean, we're just two lawyers trying to podcast).

Darlene and Mike chat with Graham Henderson (President of Music Canada, formerly of Universal Music Canada and McCarthy Tetrault)about practicing with a revolutionary spirit. PLUS: It's ok to get 'bad' grades in first year, learning from the poets, and Mike introduces his new business idea (spoiler: it's bad). Show Notes: Graham's Blog: http://www.grahamhenderson.ca/ Music Canada's report: Closing the Value Gap - How to Fix Safe Harbours and Save the Creative Middle Class - https://musiccanada.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Closing-the-Value-Gap-Music-Canada-2019.pdf Graham's music recommendations: -Tom Robinson band - Power in the Darkness - https://open.spotify.com/track/5ERwOdTsudDOND2heHQZ6L?si=bkmuLKmDSWGiOtqJ0fdG9Q -The Clash - Clampdown -https://open.spotify.com/track/66MwdlxiFMZ8TJGLEJnS7x?si=9kcpl8TqQACqnbz0fyPN5A Music credit: Nick Fowler, composition and performance - teknologyproductions.wixsite.com/teknology Please rate, review, subscribe and comment. We would so appreciate your feedback (I mean, we're just two lawyers trying to podcast).

Darlene and Mike discuss rules. When to follow, when to challenge, and the benefits that flow from those actions. PLUS: Teenage Mike LOVED rules, some Dave Grohl puns(!), and Mike 'promoting' the podcast to his hockey team. Music credit: Nick Fowler, composition and performance (teknologyproductions.wixsite.com/teknology) Please rate, review, subscribe and comment. We would so appreciate your feedback (I mean, we're just two lawyers trying to podcast).