Race at Work with Porter Braswell

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Race is a topic many of us struggle to talk about at work, yet it shapes so many of our career experiences and outcomes. But host Porter Braswell (Jopwell) is on a mission to create a safe space to share those stories – and learn from them. Hear leaders from business and government trace their personal journeys with race, equity, and inclusion. And learn from their mistakes and their triumphs. The views expressed on this podcast are those of its hosts, guests, and callers, and not those of Harvard Business Review.

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    The Race at Work with Porter Braswell podcast has proven to be an invaluable resource for me as an early-career professional in the field of diversity, equity, and inclusion. This podcast provides a platform for perspectives that are often overlooked or unheard in the workplace. What sets this podcast apart is the diverse range of DEI professionals that are featured as guests, allowing listeners like myself to dream big and set ambitious goals for our own companies. The quality of the guests, both in terms of their insights and industry stature, is unparalleled. I am eagerly looking forward to witnessing the growth and expansion of this series.

    One of the best aspects of The Race at Work with Porter Braswell podcast is undoubtedly the caliber of its guests. Each episode features highly accomplished individuals who have made significant contributions to advancing DEI in various industries. Their insights, experiences, and strategies are truly eye-opening and provide valuable guidance for anyone interested in making a difference in their workplace. The breadth of perspectives showcased on this podcast ensures that listeners gain a well-rounded understanding of the challenges and opportunities within the realm of DEI work.

    However, there is one aspect of this podcast that I found disappointing. In a recent episode featuring one of the co-founders of WeWork, it became evident that he was unprepared to answer straightforward questions regarding his engagement and meaningful action after admitting his role in perpetuating inequity on Instagram. This lackluster response left a lot to be desired, particularly when it comes to taking tangible steps towards addressing structural racism and implementing anti-racist policies. It felt like a missed opportunity for meaningful dialogue and substantial change.

    In conclusion, despite some shortcomings in certain episodes, The Race at Work with Porter Braswell podcast remains an exceptional resource for anyone navigating DEI work as an early-career professional or beyond. The variety of perspectives offered by top-notch guests allows listeners to broaden their horizons and think critically about how they can make a meaningful impact in their own workplaces. I am excited to continue listening to this podcast and eagerly anticipate the future episodes that will further educate and inspire listeners in the pursuit of equity, inclusion, and belonging.



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    Pfizer's Mike McDermott: The Power of Inclusive Leadership

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 28, 2024 32:21


    Pfizer's Chief Global Supply Officer and Executive Vice President Mike McDemott sits down with our new host, Channa Green, to discuss how leaders can become active and supportive when it comes to having conversations about race and inclusion at work. As you'll hear Mike explain, it takes courage, practice, and persistence. Mike also explains why, despite a bumpy year for DEI in corporate America, he'll continue to focus on promoting inclusion — not just for his employees, but for patients around the world. Race At Work is produced by 2045 Studio.

    Introducing Season 4: Race At Work (Trailer)

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 28, 2024 1:30


    2045 Studio is proud to present Season Four of Race at Work. Join us this season as host Channa Green and our guests examine the state of corporate diversity, equity, and inclusion in what's turning out to be its most controversial year since 2020. Tune in to learn from leaders at Fortune 500 companies who will inspire you to become a more inclusive leader at your organization. New episodes are available every Wednesday. 2045 Studio helps companies ensure their employees of color are seen, heard, and valued. Learn more at 2045studio.com.

    BlackRock's Michelle Gadsden-Williams: The Difference Is Inclusion

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 1, 2022 28:21


    In the final episode of Race At Work Season 3, Porter chats with Michelle Gadsden-Williams, Managing Director & Global Head of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion at BlackRock. They discuss the costly mistakes companies make when it comes to retaining employees of color and the milestones that indicate successful DEI initiatives. BlackRock recently released its impact report and launched a 1 billion dollar fund to invest in businesses and projects owned, led by, or serving people of color. Michelle is also an author. Her most recent book, out now, is titled “Driven by Intention: Own Your Purpose, Gain Power, and Pursue Your Passion as a Woman at Work.”

    Ancestry's Deb Liu: The Power of Storytelling Using Your Family's History

    Play Episode Listen Later May 25, 2022 27:21


    In this episode, Porter chats with Deb Liu, CEO of Ancestry. They talk about why diverse teams in tech build better products - from design all the way through the review process, it all matters. And when it comes to talking about race at work, Deb thinks pretending it doesn't affect the workplace only alienates your employees. Deb's book “Take Back Your Power” is all about lessons from tech, leadership, and motherhood. It will be out Fall 2022.

    UBS's Tom Naratil: Moving Allies From Supportive to Committed

    Play Episode Listen Later May 18, 2022 29:00


    In this episode, Porter chats with Tom Naratil, Co-President Global Wealth Management and President Americas at UBS. They discuss why for leaders, it's not enough to just be supportive of diversity, equity and inclusion at your company, but you must be committed. Tom also talks about why empathy is an important skill for a leader to develop - he believes the more you work at it, the better you get.

    Citi's Erika Irish Brown: The Importance of CEO Support For Chief Diversity Officers To Thrive

    Play Episode Listen Later May 11, 2022 35:09


    In this episode, Porter chats with Erika Irish Brown, Chief Diversity, Equity and Inclusion Officer and Global Head of Talent at Citi. They discuss the elements needed for a DEI leader to thrive - like support from the top and having the human capital as well as budget resources - and how data can help stakeholders understand why DEI isn't a “nice to have”, but an important business case.

    Trillicon Valley's Jason Mayden: Disrupting Culture With Design and Social Innovation

    Play Episode Listen Later May 4, 2022 36:25


    In this episode, Porter chats with Jason Mayden, CEO of Trillicon Valley, a modern design collective. They discuss the record-setting projects he worked on at Nike, why he left a dream job to build Superheroic, and why the impact he aims to have with Trillicon is meant to be multigenerational. Jason's forthcoming book “A Kids Book About Design” comes out this May. 

    Jopwell's Ryan Williams: The Journey of co-founding Jopwell, Part 2

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 27, 2022 26:50


    This episode is the second and final part of Porter's conversation with Ryan Williams, co-founder of Jopwell. They share personal stories from the Jopwell journey, like a rejection from TechStars that led to a yes from Y Combinator, what it means to be Black founders in the tech space and the challenges they face when it comes to leading a diverse company.

    Jopwell's Ryan Williams: The Journey of co-founding Jopwell, Part 1

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 20, 2022 28:32


    This episode is part one of Porter's chat with Ryan Williams, co-founder of Jopwell. They talk about the origin story of how they met, what it was like working in finance as young Black men, and how their professional experiences led them to believe Jopwell was a much-needed platform.    

    Sixth Street's David Stiepleman: Creating Social Capital For Underrepresented Groups

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 13, 2022 34:59


    In this episode, Porter chats with David Stiepleman, Co-President, and Co-Founder of the global investment firm Sixth Street. They talk about the reasons for the lack of funding for diverse founders. They also discuss why Sixth Street's summer fellowship program is critical in their approach to diversifying their internal team and the private capital industry more broadly. Porter and David also discuss why it's the responsibility of both the company and the broader industry to create spaces for employees to talk about race at work.

    Deloitte's Kwasi Mitchell: Finding Organizational Purpose For Companies and Employees

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 6, 2022 36:22


    In this episode, Porter chats with Kwasi Mitchell, Chief Purpose Officer at Deloitte. They discuss why Kwasi's role is crucial in creating frameworks for organizational purpose, which is the greater mission that helps companies Deloitte serves and its employees find purpose in their daily work. They also talk about creating pathways of success for employees and why it's a passion for Kwasi.

    Wellesley College's Dr. Paula A. Johnson: The Impact of COVID on Students and the Social Climate on College Campuses

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 30, 2022 31:00


    In this episode, Porter speaks with Dr. Paula A. Johnson, the 14th President of Wellesley College. They talk about how classrooms need to be set up for discussions when it comes to highly charged topics amongst a diverse student body, why simple changes to job description wording can improve corporate recruitment on campus, and how COVID showed that living on campus is an equalizer for students. As a physician-scientist, Paula made a significant impact through her clinical and research work. Before joining Wellesley in 2016, she was a professor of medicine and epidemiology at Harvard. 

    NHL's Kim Davis: Overcoming Discrimination, Impact of Sponsors, and The Rooney Rule

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 23, 2022 31:16


    In this episode, Porter chats with Kim Davis, Senior Executive Vice President of Social Impact, Growth Initiatives & Legislative Affairs at the National Hockey League. They discuss the life-changing impact a sponsor made on Kim's career and why the Rooney Rule - a policy started in 2003 by the NFL that requires teams to interview candidates of color for leadership roles - isn't implemented in the NHL. Kim starts the show by recounting some of the overt racism she experienced early in her career.

    NY Times' Jacqueline Welch: The Power of Storytelling in Bringing People Together

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 16, 2022 26:56


    To kick off season 3 of Race at Work, Porter chats with Jacqueline Welch, Executive Vice President and Chief Human Resources Officer at the New York Times about why representation matters at all levels of an organization. Jaqueline is the second Black woman to be on the New York Times masthead. They also discuss the 1619 project –– a long-form journalism initiative by the Times paper and magazine that reframes the history of slavery and contributions made by Black Americans. They get into the project's impact and how it's leveraged internally to build a more diverse, equitable, and inclusive culture.

    UCLA Law's Laura E. Gómez: Understanding Critical Race Theory, Part 2

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 21, 2021 33:39


    This is the second part of a two-part series exploring critical race theory (CRT) and its influence on diversity and inclusion efforts in workplaces and classrooms. Laura E. Gómez, a law professor at UCLA, teaches in the school's Critical Race Studies Program, which uses CRT to explore how legal and other systems intersect with race in the U.S. In the final episode of Season 2, she tells host Porter Braswell that racism isn't about individual prejudice, but rather about the messages our larger society gives us about our identities.

    The Guardian's Julia Carrie Wong: Understanding Critical Race Theory, Part 1

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 14, 2021 24:33


    This is part one of a two-part series exploring critical race theory (CRT) and its influence on diversity and inclusion efforts in workplaces and classrooms. Julia Carrie Wong is a senior reporter for The Guardian, and she's been covering the ongoing debate around CRT in schools and federal employee trainings. CRT is an academic discipline that teaches that racism is deeply embedded into U.S. legal and political systems. Wong talks with host Porter Braswell about what CRT is, efforts to ban CRT from classrooms, and why some institutions are resistant to making CRT a standard educational tool.

    Former McDonald's CEO Don Thompson and Cleveland Avenue Foundation's Liz Thompson: Breaking Barriers

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 7, 2021 36:33


    Don and Liz Thompson are leaders in their respective industries. Don had a long career rising through the ranks of McDonald's, eventually becoming the company's first Black CEO. Meanwhile his wife Liz Thompson was a rising executive in education and nonprofits – like City Year Chicago, where she was the founding executive director. Throughout their careers, the Thompsons kept their community in mind. In 2014, they started the Cleveland Avenue Foundation for Education (The CAFE), an organization focused on college access and career attainment for the Black community. They talk to host Porter Braswell about being intentional with their work, in order to build economic equity in the Black community whenever they had the opportunity. They also discuss breaking racial barriers while climbing to the top of corporate America.

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    McKinsey Institute's Shelley Stewart: Black Americans and Economic Mobility

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 30, 2021 30:41


    Shelley Stewart III, leader of the McKinsey Institute for Black Economic Mobility, discusses a new report that examines the gaps and barriers Black Americans face in the U.S. economy. Stewart and host Porter Braswell review the report's findings and explore how addressing representational imbalances could create greater economic equity.

    AT&T's Anne Chow: Creating a Safe Workplace

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 23, 2021 32:40


    Anne Chow is the first woman of color to serve as the CEO of AT&T. As a business leader and the daughter of Taiwanese immigrants, she's made it a point to have conversations about race and ethnicity in the workplace throughout her 30-year career at the company. Chow is the co-author of a book about unconscious bias in the workplace, and she tells host Porter Braswell how business leaders can create safe spaces for employees of color.

    High on the Hog's Stephen Satterfield: The Power of Black Storytelling

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 16, 2021 40:42


    As host of a hit new Netflix TV show, “High on the Hog: How African American Cuisine Transformed America,” and founder of a food media company, Stephen Satterfield has a platform to share Black narratives. He tells host Porter Braswell how powerful it is to share these stories, and why it's important for them to be told through the lens of an all-Black production crew.

    Grammy-Winning Musician Keyon Harrold: Racism and Work

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 9, 2021 33:11


    How should organizations support employees who experience racist incidents in their personal lives, and how can those kinds of experiences affect their work? Grammy-winning trumpeter and activist Keyon Harrold tells host Porter Braswell about a racist attack against him and his teenage son, how the music industry responded, and why that experience changed his career.

    National Basketball Players Association VP CJ McCollum: Holding Management Accountable

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 2, 2021 34:20


    CJ McCollum, Portland Trail Blazer and National Basketball Players Association vice president, talks to host Porter Braswell about holding both his team's and the NBA's leadership accountable. He also discusses how management can be supportive of race-related issues happening inside and outside of the workplace.

    Ogilvy’s Carla Hendra: Power and Privilege in Advertising

    Play Episode Listen Later May 26, 2021 23:16


    Carla Hendra, Ogilvy’s global CEO of growth and innovation, talks to host Porter Braswell about her experiences with power and privilege during her decades-long career in the advertising industry – and how those dynamics affect representation within the industry.

    WNBA’s Napheesa Collier: How to be Outspoken about Race at Work

    Play Episode Listen Later May 19, 2021 28:22


    Napheesa Collier, forward for the Minnesota Lynx, has been outspoken about police brutality and racism throughout her basketball career. She joins host Porter Braswell to discuss how her team and the WNBA have been using their platforms to fight for social justice.

    Curaleaf’s Lanett Austin: The Cannabis Industry and Communities of Color

    Play Episode Listen Later May 12, 2021 31:24


    The director of Talent Management and Diversity at the largest cannabis operator in the U.S. talks about the racial disparities in the cannabis industry and what a more equitable and inclusive future would mean.

    Jopwell’s Devon Lee: Answering “Uncomfortable” Questions About Race at Work

    Play Episode Listen Later May 5, 2021 38:52


    What is privilege? Can people of color be racist? Can white scholars and consultants be experts on race? Scholar-activist Devon Lee answers some “uncomfortable” questions about race at work – to lay the foundation for the rest of the show’s new season.

    Delta’s CEO Ed Bastian: Taking a Stand on Racial Equity

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 27, 2021 28:49


    Delta CEO Ed Bastian discusses his journey to become an inclusive leader, and how senior leaders can lead change in their companies to address internal and external racial justice issues.

    Sephora’s Deborah Yeh: Unconscious Bias in Retail and Marketing

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 20, 2021 25:31


    Deborah Yeh, Sephora’s Chief Marketing Officer, discusses unconscious bias in retail and marketing, as well as how it affects customers and their relationship with brands.

    iCIMS’ Charles Mah: Why Traditional Recruiting Pipelines Don’t Work

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 13, 2021 29:51


    Charles Mah, a leader in talent management within the tech industry, discusses the problems with traditional recruiting pipelines and explains how to improve diversity recruiting.

    Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion 101 (with Richemont’s Doug Melville)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 6, 2021 32:35


    What’s the difference between unconscious bias and a microaggression? How is diversity actually defined? And what’s problematic about using the term “minority”? Doug Melville, VP, Head of Diversity & Inclusion at Richemont North America, joins host Porter Braswell to answer questions about diversity, equity, and inclusion that can be awkward to ask at work.

    Former Goldman Sachs Partner Edith Cooper: Recruit, Retain, Mentor

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 30, 2020 37:54


    Goldman’s former head of Human Capital Management talks about the role race plays at work, employee retention strategies, and the importance of having sponsors for one’s career.

    PGA of America’s Sandy Cross: Making Golf More Inclusive

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 23, 2020 24:05


    The Chief People Officer of the Professional Golfers’ Association of America explains why she leads with inclusion when building more diverse cultures, the important role of language, and how the PGA of America is addressing past discrimination in golf.

    Cisco’s Fran Katsoudas: How to Talk About Race at Work

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 16, 2020 30:23


    Fran Katsoudas, Cisco’s Chief People Officer, explains how she approached Cisco’s all-hands meeting on race, where some employees posted racist comments. She also discusses how Cisco engages in the topic of race in a global context and shares her experiences as a Latina climbing the corporate ladder.

    U.S. Congressman Antonio Delgado: Race and Identity in Politics

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 9, 2020 36:12


    U.S. Congressman Antonio Delgado discusses the hidden obstacles he’s faced in his political and corporate career as a Black man operating in largely white spaces, how he engages with race in his work, and how he works across differences in Congress to find common ground.

    Havas New York CEO Laura Maness: Listen, Learn, and Lead

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 2, 2020 24:48


    Havas New York CEO Laura Maness discusses how having more representation is good for business, why breaking down systemic racism means looking at the language we use, and how to hold corporate leaders accountable for increasing racial representation at work.

    ESPN’s Jay Williams: Sports, Culture, and Leadership

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 25, 2020 29:45


    ESPN host Jay Williams discusses the lack of racial representation in basketball leadership, what corporate America can learn from the NBA about reckoning with race at work, and how he approaches professional situations when he’s the “only” in a room.

    Mastercard’s Former Chief Diversity Officer Donna Johnson: Advancing Company Culture

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 18, 2020 24:24


    Mastercard’s former Chief Diversity Officer Donna Johnson explains how to make long-term change to company culture, why she thinks we should talk about race at work, and when a company should hire a CDO.

    WeWork Cofounder Miguel McKelvey: Blind Spots in Leadership

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 11, 2020 34:15


    WeWork cofounder Miguel McKelvey talks about using his position as a business leader to speak up in support of Black Lives Matter, why so many start-ups struggle with diversity and inclusion, and what senior leaders can learn from what went wrong with WeWork’s culture.

    Introducing Race at Work

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 5, 2020 2:21


    Host Porter Braswell (Jopwell) is on a mission to create a safe space to talk about race at work. Hear leaders from business and government trace their personal journeys with race, equity, and inclusion. And learn from their mistakes and their triumphs. Join us this season for the candid conversations about race that we need to be having at work.

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