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Conversations is bringing you a summer treat — a collection of Richard's most memorable guests through out the years. Gill Hicks lost both her legs in the London bombings in 2005. But from the start of her recovery, she was determined not to dwell on hate or revenge, instead focus on the love that surrounded her, from family, police, doctors and nurses and complete strangers. She formed a charity called MAD for Peace, which invites us all to look for peace in our lives. Gill Hicks was living in London in 2005. One morning she boarded a train on the Picadilly Line, and in the crowded carriage she was standing next to Jermaine Lindsay who was carrying a bomb.When the bomb was detonated, she felt as though she was being enveloped in inky blackness. When the emergency lights came on she saw her legs and feet were shattered.Gill heard two insistent voices in her head: one was female, inviting her to surrender into the peace of death. The other voice was male, and it was demanding that she choose to live.As Gill waited for help to come, she made a contract with herself to survive. But she says, she wasn't fully aware of the 'fine print'.Gill became close friends with the many police officers and medical staff who saved her life. She says the love she received from complete strangers is much more important to her than the hateful attack on herself and her fellow passengers.Gill founded a charity called MAD for Peace, which invites people all over the world to look for peace in their own lives.This episode of Conversations contains discussion about terrorism, bombs, bombings, Jihad, terrorists, London, underground, the Tube, relationships, disasters, religion, London Bombings, rescue operations, rescuers, ambulance, first responders, Jermaine Linday, Mad for Peace, Picadilly Line, Adelaide, expats, mad nests, charities, walking, prosthetics, prosthetic legs, disability, fundraising.
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In my view, the very embodiment of courage and resilience is my friend Gill Hicks. As a young woman Gill travelled to London to find adventure and a new life. She found success and everything she had hoped for in that wonderful city. But that all changed in "a breath", when she was just meters away from a detonating suicide bomber on the London Underground in July 2005. The ghastly physical impact was just the beginning of a journey that would lead her on a quest to literally promote world peace. Gill is articulate, kind and outspoken about her vision of what humanity could look like. I need to sit down with her for a few more hours to hear more of her philosophies!Gill's book "One Unknown"
Adelaide Fringe at home, in a park, or in a theatre? Take your pick! The Covid-19 pandemic and ever-changing response protocols have prompted Hartstone Kitney Productions to make it possible to do the Adelaide Fringe at home this year, more than ever before. Joanne Hartstone and Tom Kitney formed their production company in 2017 and in recent years they have invested heavily in filming and streaming live shows. Amid the uncertainty of the pandemic, all their Fringe shows this year will only be available via livestream or on-demand. A reminder that Steve Davis and Ekkia Evans will be reviewing Fringe shows again this year. Read our Adelaide Fringe reviews here, throughout the Fringe. For the SA Drink Of The Week, local comedian and show producer, Wendy Torbet, will share a Coopers Pale Ale while discussing some stand up comedy insights. And Melbourne-based performer, Tash York, who lives in Adelaide every Fringe (and has done for many, many years), will share her insights on Fringe, interstate acts, and the glam/big hair aspects of cabaret. And in the Musical Pilgrimage, we finish off with a track by Nick Vulture, that will feature in a show he's putting on called Southern Sounds. You can navigate episodes using chapter markers in your podcast app. Not a fan of wine? You can click next to jump to the next chapter in the show. We're here to serve! The Adelaide Show Podcast: Awarded Silver for Best Interview Podcast at the 2021 Australian Podcast Awards and named as Finalist for News and Current Affairs in the 2018 Australian Podcast Awards. And please consider becoming part of our podcast by joining our Inner Circle. It's an email list. Join it and you might get an email on a Sunday or Monday seeking question ideas, guest ideas and requests for other bits of feedback about YOUR podcast, The Adelaide Show. Email us directly and we'll add you to the list: podcast@theadelaideshow.com.au If you enjoy the show, please leave us a 5-star review in iTunes or other podcast sites, or buy some great merch from our Red Bubble store - The Adelaide Show Shop. We'd greatly appreciate it. And please talk about us and share our episodes on social media, it really helps build our community. Oh, and here's our index of all episode in one concise page Running Sheet: Adelaide Fringe at home and about 00:00:00 Intro Introduction to the show. 00:04:53 SA Drink Of The Week This week's SA Drink Of The Week is a Coopers Pale Ale, as recommended by Wendy Torbet, a comedian and producer who's producing some live, in-the-flesh comedy shows again this fringe. Shows mentioned: Open Mic Comedy at Legends Bar Fashionable and Fabulous The Good, The Bad and The Ugly 00:08:19 Adelaide Fringe at hom with Joanne Hartstone and Tom Kitney In 2020, when Covid-19 struck and theatres went dark, the State Theatre devised an ingenious program called Decameron 2.0; a weekly hour of 10 short monologues broadcast online. It was a hit and the production qualities were very high. Some amateur companies also experimented with livestreaming or prerecorded theatre with mixed results, typically due to lower budgets and lack of experience. Our guests today have truly honed the art of filming and streaming live theatre, so much so that for the Adelaide Fringe in 2022, all their shows will only be viewable online. Joanne Hartstone and Tom Kitney, welcome to the Adelaide Show. Shows mentioned: The Girl Who Jumped Off The Hollywood Sign by Joanne Hartstone / Hartstone-Kitney Productions The Reichstag Is Burning by Hartstone-Kitney Productions EGG by Erin Fowler Movement Spaces Between Us + Epilogue by Lewis Major Projects Satori + Unfolding by Lewis Major Projects You Can't Hide In The Desert by Tracy Crisp Something In The Water by Scantily Glad Theatre Company Prepping For Theatre by Dr Lane Myths, Legends and Fantasy by Emma Knights Or just click HERE to see all Hartstone-Kitney Productions shows for the 2022 Adelaide Fringe I had my first virtual experience of Black Box Live, which is the manifestation of your livestreaming and on-demand theatre, last year. I'd missed Dr Gill Hicks' theatre debut, Alive And Kicking, so watched your on-demand version. It was wonderful experience and I'm glad I got to see it. I also know that because of her connections to the London bombings, there were readymade audiences in England who got to watch the broadcast performances. What are your recollections of that show and your other shows during the 2021 Fringe? And did audiences split evenly between in-theatre and online, or was there a skew? Can you take us through your thinking process for opting to only do Fringe shows online this year? Was it prompted by some heartbreak last year when restrictions were brought in right on the day before a big new season launch? Did you watch any of the Decameron 2.0? Thoughts? Apart from your productions, what livestreamed or on-demand theatre thrilled you over the past few years? I hear some people, Peter Goers is one of them, who poo poos livestream theatre, saying theatre is meant to be live, in the flesh. I think if you go back a few years to filmed productions that had one or two cameras and sound being recorded from the auditorium, then I would be with him. But I've seen some stunning and thoughtfully filmed theatre in recent years and have become quite a convert. Do you still encounter this sort of staunch resistance? Or is that fading like the claims of early luddites who railed against the printing press in 1492, claiming handwriting was the moral superior to mechanical printing? Martin Scorcese was once asked what was more important, vision or sound. He said, sound. And I agree. What's the trick for capturing good sound when livestreaming? How do you plan when to be close up and when to have a wideshot or even follow the action? I was at Essential Theatre's Shakespeare In The Vines at Sevenhill Cellars last weekend, and their actors had wonderful skills around projection. Would they blow your mics? Is there a different discipline required for actors on your sets? Are all shows suitable for filming? I think we've covered many aspects but can we just reflect on some of the pros and cons related to producing theatre for the screen. For example, one person can buy a ticket but a whole family could watch (so you bleed some ticket sales). Similarly, I am sure there are actors who thrive on audience feedback. On the plus side, theatre on screen allows for greater access for people with disabilities, plus a greater chance of fitting theatre into lifestyles. What have I missed? Are some of these factors more or less important than others? What do you have in store for 2022? I need to ask about critics. There seem to be some different assumptions about the role of critics. In an ideal world, how does the role of critic fit into the journey of your production? All reviewers got this note from the Fringe last week, in which it said: Due to the impacts of COVID, venue capacity limits and in an effort to not take seats away from artists and venues, Media will be able to select 1 complimentary ticket per event. We will still issue 2 complimentary tickets for Kids and Family events for parents/guardians to accompany children. If you need to request a second ticket for extenuating circumstances for an event you are attending, you may send a written request to mediaticketing@adelaidefringe.com.au. Please note that this request will be evaluated by our MediaTIX team and in consultation with the artist and in many cases may not be approved. What makes me think there is some wrong-thinking happening in the Fringe head office is the notion that critics "take seats away from artists and venues" when, in fact, critics help spread the word about shows to potential audience members. It is completely shortsighted and seems to come from a notion that when I get a "free" ticket, I'm just in seventh heaven going on a junket, without any thought OR RESPECT for the 1-2 hours it will take me to invest my own time in reflecting on the show and writing and promoting a thoughtful review. Comment? Oh, and for the last three Fringes, I have run 4 events and there is no way I would ever have limited a critic to a single ticket. When you were producing "proper" theatre, you're obvious competitors were other producers of "proper" theatre. But now that you're in the online space, do you feel you are competing against TikTok and YouTube stars, let alone Netflix, Stan, and all the rest? How do you make sense of your marketplace? 01:33:55 Tash York Tash York is a Melbourne performer who lives a month of her life every year in Adelaide. Amid rumours that some people are saying that all interstate shows have been cancelled this year (yep, that's been discussed in the Fringe artists' Facebook group), I thought I'd have a quick chat with Tash for some "proof of life". Shows mentioned: Tash York's Happy Hour Wine Confessions with Tash York Tash, when did you start coming to Adelaide? What changes have you noticed with the Fringe and with Adelaide over this time? What is your mood and your thinking in relation to these pandemic times? Tell us about Happy Hour? Do you really improvise an original song, live? And tell us about the goon! You've also recently joined the cast of Confessions. Finally, you have big hair, your sidekicks do, also, along with big makeup. Most of us don't walk down the street like this. What is its appeal? Do you think it's voyeuristic escapism, eg, we watch you and marvel that we could never do that? 01:51:43 Musical Pilgrimage In the musical pilgrimage, we have a song called Perfect Storm by Nick Vulture. Show mentioned: Southern Sounds Nick is part of Southern Sounds, a one day event on Sunday February 27th 2022 between 1pm (doors from midday) to 7pm at the beautiful Port Noarlunga Arts Centre. It will be celebrating some of the amazing original singer songwriter talent from the south of Adelaide with award winning acts such as Loren Kate, Tilly Tjala Thomas, Jen Lush, Steve Ashley and, of course, Nick Vulture. There are plenty of nearby eateries to grab a feed before and/or after, and drinks will be available inside the Arts Centre. This is a one off event with amazing musical talent, so get on board and support this amazing bunch of musos and enjoy a day by the beach at the same time! Tickets at Fringetix - just search Southern Sounds! Support the show: https://theadelaideshow.com.au/listen-or-download-the-podcast/adelaide-in-crowd/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Marina Cantacuzino talks to author, musician and artist Gill Hicks who narrowly escaped death when she was horrifically and permanently disabled during the terrorist attacks in London in the summer of 2005. She has devoted much of her time since then to deterring anyone from following a path of violent extremism.
South Australia is poised for another Fringe season with most interstate artists making it across the border before more snap closures due to Covid. We meet one of those artists in this episode, Charles Firth from The Chaser. We also chat with someone who is pushing beyond her borders of security, Dr Gill Hicks. She is giving it all in her Fringe show. And we share a rare recording of Professor Sebastian Longsword, from The MBA School Of MBA Credentials, being interviewed on Radio Adelaide, amid and audience of highly educated listeners. The SA Drink Of The Week is a Barbera by Spider Bill Wines from the Adelaide Hills. And in the musical pilgrimage we hear from Matthew and Alice Barker from Roger And The Albatross. You can navigate episodes using chapter markers in your podcast app. Not a fan of wine? You can click next to jump to the next chapter in the show. We're here to serve! And please consider becoming part of our podcast by joining our Inner Circle. It's an email list. Join it and you might get an email on a Sunday or Monday seeking question ideas, guest ideas and requests for other bits of feedback about YOUR podcast, The Adelaide Show. Email us directly and we'll add you to the list: podcast@theadelaideshow.com.au If you enjoy the show, please leave us a 5-star review in iTunes or other podcast sites, or buy some great merch from our Red Bubble store - The Adelaide Show Shop. We'd greatly appreciate it. And please talk about us and share our episodes on social media, it really helps build our community. Oh, and here's our index of all episode in one concise page Running Sheet: Are we there yet? Fringe in a time of Covid 00:00:00 Intro Introduction to the show by Professor Longsword who has a Fringe show entitled, A Lunchtime MBA. 00:04:57 SA Drink Of The Week The SA Drink Of The Week is 2020 Barbera by Spider Bill Wines in the Adelaide Hills. As a side note, Professor Sebastian Longsword featured this wine in one of his Wine and Book Pairings. See how and why he paired it with Poke The Box, by Seth Godin. 00:09:51 Charles Firth Charles Firth is back in Adelaide with a Fringe show about conspiracy theories related to the Pandemic. You'll know Charles from The Chaser and also from episode 322 of The Adelaide Show. But for today's interview, Steve asks about the interstate artist experience of heading to SA when their home states are falling in and out of lockdown, along with whether or not to bring your conspiracy-loving friends along to the show. Here's the link to The Anti-Expert's Guide To The Pandemic 00:25:10 Dr Gill Hicks Dr Gill Hicks is an inspiration. She was the last survivor rescued from the 2005 London Bombings and through the injuries sustained, lost both her legs. Somehow, that experience of pain and near-death, has shaped her deeply and helped her connect with some truths and insights that are all too easy for the rest of us to see as we skim across life in busyness and routine. In this interview, Steve asks her about her show and we get a taste of her life-affirming sense of humour. Here is the link to Still Alive (and kicking) 00:34:46 Professor Sebastian Longsword Professor Sebastian Longsword from Adelaide's MBA School Of MBA Credentials, was interviewed on Radio Adelaide Breakfast recently, by Tom Mann and Paul Davies. Because proceeds from the Professor's Fringe show go to help The Adelaide Show survive, we'll entice you with this promise: A Lunchtime MBA is the only Adelaide Fringe show in history in which you can come for lunch and leave with an MBA. Here is the link to A Lunchtime MBA 00:47:10 Musical Pilgrimage In the musical pilgrimage, we have a song from Roger and the Albatross, called Trees Have Eyes. Roger and the Albatross, is a South Australian brother/sister duo, Matthew and Alice Barker. They write, sing, play and dance their originally written, harmonious folk songs that tell stories of love, food, lemons and soap. They don't like to take themselves (or life) too seriously and enjoy playing pubs and festivals. You'll often see them share the stage with the talented Ben Roberts from Ukulele Death Squad. Their Fringe show this year is a gig that has theatrical elements and they promise it will entertain! Here is the link to more information about their show, Roger and the Albatross Support the show: https://theadelaideshow.com.au/listen-or-download-the-podcast/adelaide-in-crowd/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Gill Hicks is someone who's presence makes an impact on this world. This I know from the brief conversations that I've had the pleasure to have with this incredible human. This is surely the reason she defied the odds that were cruelly stacked against her in 2005 in London, when a suicide bomber boarded the same train at the same time and stood one person away from Gill as he detonated a bomb throughout that carriage. The way that Gill articulated this event so vividly with a level of perspective, resilience and love left me hanging on every word, feeling almost like I was right there beside her looking on. She is someone who found the most powerful weapon of retaliation was not fighting back with hate, anger and regret, but with love, connection and understanding. I think we can all learn a little from that. This conversation will open your eyes to what you have to be grateful for, it will make you want to invest more in what really matters, it will make you tell those you love just that... and it will remind you to love what you may just be taking for granted right this very moment. I can't thank Gill enough for this conversation. Tiffanee Cook | www.rollwiththepunches.com.au | @tiffaneeandco | @rollwiththepunches_podcast --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/roll-withthepunches/message
Erin Cotter-Smith & Gill Hicks. Two epic women. One epic friendship. We heard from Erin and her personal experience with vicarious trauma from 15 years of researching 911 first responders. This layered upon a range of medical traumas she has endured, all whilst hurtling through life as a high achieving disaster medicine expert and academic who sits on the boards of many worthwhile foundations and organisations. We haven't heard from Gill YET, but among a host of ah-f*cking-mazing attributes, stories and accolades Gill, the author, the speaker and the superstar also happens to be the last person pulled from the rubble in the 2005 London bombings. Gill emerged a double amputee, losing both of her legs... But not her spirit. In this episode we talk about just that.. the spirit, the resilience, the what-is-it-that gets us through the shit. For these two warriors it was the very unique bond that was formed around a friendship between two people who through their own separate traumas and tough times, understood just how to support one another. There's a science to it that's for certain. Loneliness has been proven to increase mortality rates 26-32%... It kind of makes sense then to see friendship may just be our most powerful healing elixir. Tiffanee Cook | www.rollwiththepunches.com.au | @rollwiththepunches_podcast | @tiffaneeandco EPISODE SPONSOR: Atlas Broker | www.atlasbroker.com.au/tiff | 1300 731 131 --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/roll-withthepunches/message
Our guest today is Gill Hicks, a survivor of the 2005 London bombings and one of the most powerful and thought-provoking advocates on the value of each individual, how we are all responsible for the evolution of Humanity, and the sustainability of the world around us. She was left severely injured in the 2005 London bombings that changed her life forever. In this episode, she shares with us the importance of timing, how her near-death experience completely transformed her life, the power of compassion, and how we are all equally valuable and have an important role to play in our lifetime. To learn more about Gill and her journey, visit: http://palmamichel.com/explorersmind06/ Mentioned in the show: www.musicartdiscussion.com Gill Hicks - One Unknown www.palmamichel.com palma@palmamichel.com Now it is time to find your own unique path. We can help you to connect with your innate wisdom and create an inspiring vision for a deeply fulfilling and meaningful life. Apply for a discovery session on our website, palmamichel.com. Learn to meditate with Palma on the MUSE brain-sensing device and receive a 15% discount (will be shown at checkout only) with this link! Thank you for joining us on this journey of the Explorer’s Mind Podcast. If you enjoyed this episode, there are a few things we would be very grateful for if you would do right now: SUBSCRIBE to the Explorer’s Mind Podcast on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts Please RATE & REVIEW and let us know what inspired you in this episode Finally, we invite you to JOIN the Explorer’s Mind Facebook Group and continue the conversation Please share this episode with someone you think would be inspired by it. Until next time, We truly appreciate you listening and look forward to continuing this journey together.
This ep we chatted to artist, survivor and inspirational Speaker Gill Hicks. Gill is considered to be one of the most thought provoking, powerful and life affirming speakers in the world. In this chat Gill reflected on her experience as a survivor of the 2005 London terrorist attack and how the event and her injuries impacted the way she sees the world. Gill also shared her hopes for how the world will emerge from the pandemic & how the immense resilience that she found lies deep within us all. Follow us on Instagram @lets_talk_pod & follow @gillismad. Learn more about Gill: https://www.saxton.com.au/speakers/gill-hicks
Dr Nisha Khott joins Bec and Tanya after joining the compassion revolution, meeting Gill Hicks and Helen Clark all in the space of 24 hours. What do you get when a NZ, Aussie and Indian walk into a podcast ...... ???? A lot of the word arsehole
Gill Hicks answers some of the questions posed by our audience after her presentation 'What's the Worst that Can Happen?'
Gill Hicks leads a session on 'Complete Good Health'
Gill Hicks's story is one of compassion and humanity, emerging from the ashes of chaos and hate. A survivor of the London terrorist bombings on July 7, 2005, she shares her story of the events of that day -- and the profound lessons that came as she learned how to live on. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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“Someone somewhere is feeling the effects of something you have said or done, and this is a great responsibility.” - Gill Hicks Today we're chatting with Gill Hicks. The founder of not for profit organisation, M.A.D. For Peace and consultancy, M.A.D. MINDS. Gill was severely and permanently injured in the London bombings of 2005, losing both of her legs just below the knee. She is determined to do all she can to deter anyone from following a path of violent action and believes everyone can make a personal difference to create a confident global community and a sustainable peace. I had the pleasure of spending quite a large part of my time at Wired for Wonder with Gill, and I feel very privileged to introduce her to you today. In this conversation Gill shares why it's so important that we all share our stories of growth and why we must take responsibility for the words we speak into existence - both good and bad. We also discuss Gill's greatest lesson going through her life changing experience. Plus you'll hear what role her beautiful daughter, Amelia plays in her life to spark wonder and creativity. A very grounded and heart-filled talk. Be sure to listen.
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If anyone knows about overcoming enormous adversity and finding purpose, it is London bombings survivor Dr Gill Hicks. Gill survived the the 2005 terrorist attack, even though she was standing within a couple of metres of the suicide bomber. While Gill was lucky to survive, she lost both legs below the knees. Since then, Gill has had incredible influence as a motivational speaker, Not-For-Profit founder and author. She joined social innovators Dave Curtis, Atlas Consulting, and Carolyn Curtis, the Australian Centre for Social Innovation (TACSI), at Adelaide's first Social Capital Conference for a panel discussion about overcoming challenges, choosing to not give up, resilience and purpose. The discussion was facilitated by Rooster Radio's Andrew Montesi. The panellists, Social Capital Conference (socialcapitalcity.com): Dr Jill Hicks: Jill is considered to be one of the most thought provoking, powerful and life affirming speakers, globally known as a survivor of the London terrorist Bombings on July 7, 2005. She is an author, and also founder of the Not For Profit "M.A.D for Peace", which operates nationally and internationally. To name just a few of Jill's accolades; She carried the 2008 Olympic Torch in Canberra, was recognised with an MBE in the Queen's New Year's Honours List (2008-09) for her services to charity, was the Australian of the Year in the UK and Australian Woman of the Year in UK for 2009, received two Honorary Doctorates, and since her return to Australia in 2012, she has been recognised as South Australian, Australian of the Year 2015. She is also Chair to the Innovation component for the Committee for Adelaide. Dave Curtis: Dave principal at Atlas Consulting. He is a trusted coach and adviser across the business, NGO and social enterprise spheres, with over 20 years experience and a range of senior management roles in business development, operations and strategy. He's was formerly Director of Business Development & Innovation at World Vision and a strategic advisor for Small Giants, one of Australia's pioneer social impact firms. Carolyn Curtis: Carolyn is CEO of The Australian Centre for Social Innovation (TACSI).Carolyn started her career as a social worker, supporting families at risk of having their children removed into state care, and removing children at risk of harm. For over a decade Carolyn worked in a range of positions for the public sector including operations, policy and senior management. Rooster Radio is hosted by Andrew Montesi and James Begley. Connect with Rooster Radio - sign up to our mailing list and join our Facebook community: roosterradio.biz facebook.com/roosterradioHQ For media, content and marketing services, visit: apiroconsulting.com (Andrew Montesi) For leadership and and high performance services, visit: tractgroup.com.au (James Begley)
Gill Hicks, a double amputee as a result of the 2005 London bombings, shares her inspiring story at this free Auckland Conversations event. Learn how she overcomes the physical and emotional hurdles she faces every day and why she's devoted her life to working for peace.
The South Australian Of The Year, Dr Gill Hicks, joins us to explore connections between the recent Adelaide Hills bushfires, international terrorism and our attitudes toward asylum seekers. Plus we learn more about the amazing qualities of humankind from her first hand stories of experiencing terror. PS Gill might soon be Australian Of The Year, too. Keep your ears and eyes open around 6pm January 25. Good luck, Gill. Assistant Commission of Police, Linda Fellows also joins us tonight, discussing the role social media plays in policing, especially during crisis events like the recent Samson Flat bushfires. Plus, welcome to our new mix of voices with three new contributors: Max Martin with the Made To Move Minute (fitness) George Inglis with Time To Think (public transport and policy) David Barthomoleusz with our Thought For The Week (philosophy, reflection) We hope you enjoy their contribution. We have some more voices getting ready, too. Music comes from Semaphore. Wine comes from the Adelaide Hills via the Arkaba Hotel. Support the show: https://theadelaideshow.com.au/listen-or-download-the-podcast/adelaide-in-crowd/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Gill Hicks, London bombings double amputee and survivor explains her story, includng campaign for peace.
What do a double amputee 7/7 survivor, a Grange Hill star turned comedian and a disabled motivational speaker / career coach have to say about jobs, cuts and the 2012 Paralympics? And how has each one's extraordinary back story shaped their outlook on life for 2012? Mat Fraser and Liz Carr present.