FinOpsPod

Episode 44 Larry Advey - Leveraging FOCUS for Stakeholder Management Larry Advey discusses the significance of standardizing FinOps nomenclature through the FOCUS (FinOps Cost and Usage Specification) project to streamline communication across multi-provider environments. Larry shares his insights on the impact of FOCUS in reducing confusion among stakeholders by creating a unified language for billing data. The episode also highlights Larry's experiences from recent FinOps events, upcoming plans for FinOpsX, and the importance of engaging with the community for continuous improvement.00:00 Welcome to FinOpsPod01:25 January Recap and FinOpsX Planning06:28 Focus Project and Stakeholder Management09:36 The Role of a Focus Maintainer16:23 The Vision for Focus20:11 Exploring FOCUS Nomenclature21:09 Utilizing the FOCUS Sandbox21:32 Diving into Use Cases22:49 Navigating the Focus Website29:12 Engaging with the FinOps Community34:24 Conclusion and Final ThoughtsFinOps X 2025 - The Home of FinOpsFOCUS SandboxFOCUS™ - FinOps Open Cost & Usage SpecificationLarry Advey | LinkedIn

Episode 43 FinOpsPod Year End 2024 In this episode, hosts, Joe & Stacy, with special guest Sam Benson, highlight significant events like the successful FinOps X and FinOps X Europe conferences, community growth, and the evolution of FinOps practices. The episode wraps up with reflections on the past year's achievements and aspirations for 2025, encouraging practitioners to stay engaged and keep learning.00:00 Welcome to FinOpsPod!00:28 Meet the Hosts and Special Guest01:11 Year-End Reflections02:45 Sam's Role and Contributions05:49 Community Events and Highlights08:44 FinOps X and Memorable Moments10:18 The 'No Runners' Theme11:56 Adapting and Evolving in FinOps14:08 Is Rob a Master Gardener?15:58 Highlights from FinOpsX Europe18:05 FinOps Scopes and Expanding Roles20:05 Focus and Community Engagement22:47 Emerging Topics and AI25:38 Looking Forward to 202530:49 Closing Remarks and Holiday WishesFinOps X 2025 - The Home of FinOpsThe Scope of FinOps Extends Beyond Public Cloud

Episode 42 James Barney - The AI Episode James Barney discusses the complexities and nuances of applying FinOps principles to AI usage in the cloud, explores various models of AI consumption, such as SaaS and self-hosted solutions, and delves into the challenges of accurately tracking and managing AI costs. Insights are shared from James Barney's recently contributed paper on AI cost management, emphasizing the importance of understanding AI's impact on cloud expenditures and business value. The conversation also touches on the necessity of open dialogue within organizations and the potential for AI to enhance non-customer-facing processes. Practical advice is given on how to approach AI cost management conversations and the value of learning by doing.Note - views expressed by James are his alone and not those of his employer.03:59 Understanding AI Cost Structures05:38 FinOps Strategies for AI Workloads12:10 Balancing Innovation and Cost Control18:08 Tracking and Reporting AI Costs19:34 Understanding AI Workloads21:39 Guardrails for AI Usage22:45 The Role of Context in AI25:16 Politeness in AI Interactions28:03 Exploring AI Tokens31:35 Challenges in AI Cost Management35:41 Community Involvement in AIJames Barney | LinkedInCost Estimation of AI WorkloadsHow to Forecast AI Services Costs in CloudHow to Build a Generative AI Cost and Usage Tracker

Episode 41 Anderson Oliveira - Facing Career Challenges Anderson Oliveira shares his experience of losing his job as a FinOps Manager, how he stayed positive, and took his time to find his next opportunity. Lessons in this episode on community engagement and keeping the FinOps Principles in the forefront.FinOps Jobs - All the cloud financial management jobs in one placeAnderson Oliveira | LinkedInFinOps X Europe - Barcelona, Nov 11-14

Episode 40 Anthony Johnson & Brent Eubanks - Measuring for Success with Key Momentum Indicators TJ & Brent Eubanks join Rob Martin to discuss their experience and lessons learned with how to use Key Performance Indicators. While KPIs are good for a moment in time, they learned the importance of making sure to measure progress - or momentum - towards organization success.Brent Eubanks ☁️ | LinkedInAnthony "TJ" Johnson | LinkedInFinOps KPIs

Episode 39 FinOpsPod Live - Day 2 of FinOps X 2024 - Community Lovefest! If you aren't interested in feeling FinOps Community love, then this isn't the episode for you. Recorded at the end of Day 2, Stacy Joe and audience members go over their impressions from the conference. Highlights include discussion of the USS Midway party and keynotes, a wedding proposal, community appreciation, and a secret about Joe's career background that prepared him for FinOps.FinOps X Europe - Barcelona, Nov 11-14FinOps X ‘24 Day 2 KEYNOTE: American Express, FinOps Releases by Google Cloud, Microsoft, and AWS

Episode 38 FinOpsPod Live - Day 1 of FinOps X 2024 Catch the vibes of FinOps X! Joe & Stacy review the experiences from Day 1 of the conference. Voices include: Tim O'Brien, Rob Martin, John from a Small Consultancy, Dann Berg, Karin Milkins, Anjali Oleksy and many more from the FinOps community!FinOps X 2024

Episode 37 Tammy Burnitt - Adopting FinOps At A Global Enterprise Tammy Burnitt shares her experience in establishing a FinOps practice in a large global enterprise. Tips on spreading the message on FinOps and gaining collaborators, not competitors.Tammy Burnitt FOCP | LinkedInFinOps X 2024

Episode 36 John Grubb - Building an Open Source FinOps Stack John Grubb shares how he is building his own open source FinOps stack. A great listen for anyone who has ever wondered how to even approach building their own tool.

Episode 35 Adrian Tatsch - The Business Persona Connecting to FinOps Adrian Tatsch, most recently from McKesson, shares lessons from her career journey on the business side, and how they benefited her when she discovered FinOps. This is a must listen for anyone navigating a their career.Adrian Tatsch | LinkedInFinOps X - June 27-30, 2023 San Diego, California

Episode 34 FinOpsPod Year End 2023 Joe and Stacy review the stats on FinOpsPod in 2023 and Ambassadors share about their year and what their plans are for 2024. Happy New Year!FinOps X 2024FinOps Certification and Training

Episode 33 Sarah Kula & Svetlana Pogrebny - Fixing A Tagging Strategy Sarah Kula & Svetlana Pogrebny, from the Canadian Institute for Health Information, share their story about a tagging strategy that didn't work and how they went about fixing it. Plus, Stacy Case shares information about the new Certified FinOps Engineer course.FinOps Certification and TrainingSvetlana Pogrebny, CPA, CGA | LinkedInSarah Kula | LinkedIn

Episode 32 FinOpsPod at the DC FinOps Roadshow Joe asks attendees at the DC Roadshow "What FinOps thing have you learned this year?" You're never too experienced to learn something new, or learn something over again.FinOps X 2024Upcoming FinOps RoadshowsLearn more and join the FinOps Foundation at www.FinOps.org.

Episode 31 Jason Fuller - Lessons From 10 Years of FinOps Jason Fuller, Head of Cloud at HERE Technologies, talks with Mike Fuller, CTO of the FinOps Foundation and looks back at lessons learned from doing FinOps since long before it was called FinOps.Jason Fuller | LinkedInLearn more and join the FinOps Foundation at www.FinOps.org.

Episode 30 Matt Randle & Lori Doon - Collaboration Between IT & Finance Matt Randle & Lori Doon discuss how to drive collaboration between IT and Finance in a way that doesn't just improve FinOps capabilities, but also in a way that helps speed up and add value to the business.FinOps Persona CoursesLori Doon | LinkedInMatthew Randle | LinkedIn

Episode 29 Victoria Levy & Keith Knowles - Managing Anomalies Victoria Levy from Alteryx and Keith Knowles from Envisor join the podcast to talk about Sprint 2 of the Managing Anomalies working group. Sprint 1 defined a process for approaching cloud spend anomalies and can be viewed here: https://www.finops.org/wg/managing-cloud-cost-anomalies/ Keith Knowles | LinkedInVictoria Levy | LinkedInFinOps Working GroupsManaging Cloud Cost Anomalies

Episode 28 FinOps X 2023 Recap Stacy & Joe process the experience of FinOps X 2023 and how amazing the FinOps community is. They review memorable moments, important announcments like the .5 Release of FOCUS, new FinOps Foundation Technical Advisory Council members and where FinOps X will be hosted in 2024. Then X attendees share their experiences of attending the conference. It's all about the community!FinOps Open Cost & Usage Specification (FOCUS)Shawn Rogan | LinkedInOmkar Gokhale | LinkedInRachel Palmarozzi | LinkedInAndrew Qu | LinkedInVik Saluja | LinkedInYuji Kazama | LinkedInJoey Freeland | LinkedInTheo Anidu | LinkedInSimar (Simarpreet) Arora ☁️ | LinkedInShannon Daubaras | LinkedInAlee Whitman | LinkedIn

Episode 27 FinOps X Session Preview & KBYG - Anastasija Jakovleva - Inspiring 140 Years Old Company to Implement FinOps Stacy & Joe share a 'Know Before You Go' for FinOps X in this final session preview before the conference.Then Anastasija Jakovleva shares a preview of what to expect from her breakout session "Inspiring 140 Years Old Company to Implement FinOps", a talk on how to get FinOps buy-in when Cloud isn't yet a major focus of the company.Check out the other breakout sessions at X: https://x.finops.org/agenda/Anastasija Jakovleva | LinkedInFinOps X - June 27-30, 2023 San Diego, California

Episode 26 FinOps X Session Preview - Thiago Gil - Financial Challenges of ML Ops Thiago Gil previews his session discussing the financial challenges and ethical implications inherent in ML Ops/AI.Register for FinOps X now: x.finops.orgCheck out the other breakout sessions at X: https://x.finops.org/agenda/Thiago Bittencourt Gil | LinkedInFinOps X - June 27-30, 2023 San Diego, California

Episode 25 FinOps X Session Preview - Kate Ferguson - Putting Reporting in the Path of Different Personas Kate Ferguson previews the knowledge and experience she will share during her session at FinOps X presentation. Register for FinOps X now: x.finops.orgCheck out the other breakout sessions at X: https://x.finops.org/agenda/Kate Ferguson | LinkedInFinOps X - June 27-30, 2023 San Diego, California

Episode 24 FinOps X Session Preview - Kim Wier & Ron Tatro - FinOps as Product Kim Wier and Ron Tatro from Target preview their FinOps X presentation. Register for FinOps X now: x.finops.orgCheck out the other breakout sessions at X: https://x.finops.org/agenda/Ron Tatro | LinkedInKim Wier | LinkedInFinOps X 2023: FinOps as a Product - Kim Wier & Ron Tat...

23 Sherri Wooldridge - FinOps Experience Interrupted/How To Scale FinOps By Yourself Sherri was scheduled to record this episode about how to scale a FinOps practice when you are a team of 1, when news hit and a wrench was thrown in the plan. Sherri still shares her wisdom on the topic, but also addresses when unexpected change happens that cause you to change your plans.Sherri (Baldwin) Wooldridge | LinkedIn

Episode 22 FinOps X Session Preview - Amy Ashby - Strategies for Troubleshooting Cost Anomalies & Trends Amy Ashby, FinOps Lead at Under Armor, previews her FinOps X presentation. Register for FinOps X now: x.finops.orgCheck out the other breakout sessions at X: https://x.finops.org/agenda/FinOps X - June 27-30, 2023 San Diego, CaliforniaAmy Ashby | LinkedIn

Episode 21 J.R. Storment & Mike Fuller: Cloud FinOps Book, Second Edition J.R. Storment & Mike Fuller, authors of Cloud FinOps - Collaborative, Real-Time Cloud Value Decision Making, visit to discuss what updates were included in the expansive Second Edition.Cloud FinOps: Collaborative, Real-Time Cloud Value Decision MakingMike Fuller | LinkedInJ.R. Storment | LinkedInFinOps X - June 27-30, 2023 San Diego, California

Episode 20 Keith Austin - AIA's FinOps Adoption Keith Austin from AIA, the first FinOps Foundation Enterprise Member in Asia, shares their story about their drive to be leaders in their region and their adoption of FinOps. Topics covered include training and development, challenges and success in FinOps adoption and collaborating with departments they had normally not interacted with.Upcoming FinOps EventsKeith Austin | LinkedInAIA Grants First Awards Under Its University Scholarships Programme | AIA

Episode 19 Ermanno Attardo - FinOps Pro Talk: FinOps Tooling and FinOps Teams Part 1 of the conversation between the FinOps Foundation's Rob Martin and FinOps Pro and Ambassador, Ermanno Attardo. Topics covered include things to consider when choosing a FinOps tool, how to form FinOps teams and the best ways to build Trust.FinOps Certification and TrainingErmanno Attardo | LinkedInFinOps X - June 27-30, 2023 San Diego, California

Episode 18 Bonus Episode - Building FinOps Teams & Starting FinOps Careers In a special episode - Joe & Stacy discuss traditional and nontraditional paths to a FinOps career and how to identify good candidates for a FinOps team.Share this quick episode with someone looking to get into FinOps or someone you think SHOULD get into FinOps!FinOps Jobs - All the cloud financial management jobs in one place

Episode 17 Lindbergh Matillano - Intro to Automated Governance Lindbergh Matillano, Director of the Cost Optimization team at Avalara, shares his experience and perspective towards FinOps and FinOps governance. How he leverages his heritage and his background in finance. Lindbergh also shares how to approach automating cloud governance.Lindbergh Matillano | LinkedInMentioned in this episode:FinOps X 2023Go to X.FinOps.Org for the latest information.

Episode 16 Year End Review 2022 Ashley Hromatko joins Stacy and Joe as they review some of their favorite FinOps moments of 2022. Plus - insights into what sort of content we are looking for at FinOps X 2023!Thank YOU (yes - you the person reading this right now) for helping make this community great and for making it a special year. Happy New Year!State of FinOps 2023 SurveyCall for Proposals FInOps X 2023FinOps X - June 27-30, 2023 San Diego, CaliforniaMentioned in this episode:Take the State of FinOps Survey 2023 https://www.surveymonkey.co.uk/r/2FF538F

Episode 15 Zach Stitham - Driving FinOps Culture Through KPIs Zach Stitham, VP - Cloud Business Management Office at Fidelity, talks with Ashley Hromatko on FinOps KPIs. How do you chose them? How do you mature them? How do you drive the right behaviors and culture by leveraging them? Stay on target for your goals by listening to this episode!FinOps X '22 Breakout: Fidelity's FinOps KPI Journey - Zachary Stitham & Noel Crowley (Fidelity) - YouTubeZachary Stitham | LinkedIn

Episode 14 Jérémy Nancel & John Renne - Optimizations Ideal vs Reality Rightsizing an under-utilized resource is an easy way to save on cloud costs, right? Or is it? In a conversation taken from the FinOps Foundation Slack channels, Jérémy Nancel & John Renne debate the pros and cons of reducing cloud spend by rightsizing resources vs incurring tech debt via code drift. https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremynancel/ (Jérémy NANCEL | LinkedIn) https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnrenne/ (John Renne | LinkedIn) https://www.finops.org/membership/ (Join the FinOps Foundation Community Today)

Episode 13 FinOops - Lessons Learned the Hard Way We all make mistakes. Some mistakes are just more expensive than others. In this episode, listen and learn from the experiences of others in the FinOps community who bravely share their experiences with runaway bills, outages and disaster recover tests gone wrong.https://www.finops.org/membership/ (Join the FinOps Foundation Community Today) https://www.linkedin.com/in/courtney-bormann/ (Courtney Bormann | LinkedIn) https://www.linkedin.com/in/eric-mulartrick-mba-1a24744/ (Eric Mulartrick, MBA | LinkedIn) https://www.linkedin.com/in/mjbarba/ (Michael Barba | LinkedIn) https://www.linkedin.com/in/erik-norman/ (Erik Norman | LinkedIn)

Episode 12 Alison McIntyre - FinOps Knowledge & Embracing Fear Alison McIntyre, Cloud FinOps Lead at Lloyds Banking Group, discusses what it feels like to start the FinOps Certified Professional course, cloud native application migrations and the impact of risk and regulations. There is a moment for everyone in this episode! https://learn.finops.org/path/finops-certified-professional (FinOps Certified Professional Course Information) https://www.linkedin.com/in/alison-mcintyre-06b790b/ (Alison McIntyre | LinkedIn)

Episode 11 Tony Johnson - The One About Unit Economics Tony Johnson, fresh from presenting on Unit Economics at FinOps X, talks with Joe about how to start and mature using unit economics to manage your cloud environment. https://youtu.be/mZZ3sxUijJk?t=2820 (August FinOps Summit - Unit Economics Working Group Update) https://www.finops.org/projects/introduction-cloud-unit-economics/ (Introduction to Cloud Unit Economics) https://www.linkedin.com/in/anthonyrjohnson/ (Anthony "TJ" Johnson | LinkedIn)

Episode 10 Ursula LaVeck & Julia Harvey - What Comes After FinOps Adoption Joe visits with some of his old friends and colleagues, Ursula LaVeck and Julia Harvey, to learn how they continued maturing their operations after implementing FinOps at their organizations. https://www.linkedin.com/in/julia-harvey-16521b186/ (Julia Harvey | LinkedIn) https://www.linkedin.com/in/lavecku/ (Ursula LaVeck, MBA | LinkedIn) https://www.finops.org/membership/ (Join the FinOps Foundation Community Today) https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyl26lvnoySlGWlF5oNHvYA (FinOps Foundation - YouTube)

Episode 9 FinOps X 2022 | Austin, TX The first annual FinOps X conference was held in Austin, TX in June. Joe & Stacy wrap it up and talk about the Ballroom B Wolfpack and the rest of our amazing community that showed up and embraced being together at the first FinOps conference. Includes interviews with Eli Mansoor, Dieter Matzion, Aaron Edell, Mike Eisenstien, Alee Whitman, Dann Berg, Michelle Dupuis and many more! https://www.amazon.com/Mastering-AWS-Cost-Optimization-operational/dp/B09WQBH7VV/ref=sr_1_1?crid=JEALF4NRDQPW&keywords=Mastering+AWS+Cost+Optimization%3A+Real-world+technical+and+operational+cost-saving+best+practices&qid=1657553862&s=books&sprefix=mastering+aws+cost+optimization+real-world+technical+and+operational+cost-saving+best+practices%2Cstripbooks%2C63&sr=1-1-catcorr (Mastering AWS Cost Optimization: Real-world technical and operational cost-saving best practices) https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyl26lvnoySlGWlF5oNHvYA (FinOps Foundation - FinOps X recordings)

Episode 8 FinOpsPod Voicemail: GreenOps FinOpsPod checks their voicemail and receives a question on GreenOps from Prabha Palanivelu. Mark Butcher swoops in and provides a quick answer and pitches you to join the FinOps Foundation Sustainability Working Group. To join the working group, join the Foundation to get Slack access and join the channel #wg-finops-for-sustainability. https://www.linkedin.com/in/prabhagaran-palanivelu-90b26177/ (Prabhagaran Palanivelu | LinkedIn) https://www.speakpipe.com/msg/s/268907/7/a2d1l3ptxmgh622m (Leave FinOpsPod a voicemail) https://www.linkedin.com/in/markbutcher/ (Mark Butcher | LinkedIn)

Episode 7 Pedro Veloso - Bridging the Gap Between Finance & I.T. The Finance episode! Pedro Veloso, International Man of FinOps, has performed FinOps-style roles in Brazil and Germany. Joe & Pedro discuss finance diving into the world of cloud, some of the misconceptions, the challenges and the problems that need to be worked on in order to provide data for real-time decision making. Also, special-guest appearance by Finn the Dog. https://www.linkedin.com/in/pedro-matos-veloso-3592b792/ (Pedro Matos Veloso | LinkedIn) https://www.pmtoday.co.uk/spotify-scaling-agile-model/#:~:text=Squads%3A%20The%20Basic%20Unit%20of,working%20on%20one%20specific%20area (Spotify Scaling Agile Model - PM Today)

Episode 6 Jason Rhoades - Attribution, Tags & Labels . . . OH MY! It's the episode about tags, labels, account structures - how you attribute your cloud usage and spend to information that is important to you! Learn how to start, evolve and mature your attribution strategy with insights from Jason Rhoades, Development Manager at Intuit. https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasongrhoades/ (Jason Rhoades | LinkedIn) https://www.finops.org/framework/capabilities/cost-allocation/ (Cost Allocation (Metadata & Hierarchy)) Learn more and join the FinOps Foundation at www.FinOps.org.

Episode 5 FinOps Careers: Beginning the FinOps journey The FinOps career path continues to evolve. Hear the perspectives of three practitioners, Vijay Karthavya Kudithipudi, Kate Ferguson and Hector J. Meneses Jr., who have recently started their FinOps career journeys. What is similar to your path? What is different? Register for FinOpsX: https://events.linuxfoundation.org/finops-x/ (X.FinOps.Org) https://hbr.org/2021/02/stop-telling-women-they-have-imposter-syndrome (Stop Telling Women They Have Imposter Syndrome) https://www.linkedin.com/in/hectorjm/ (Hector J. Meneses Jr. | LinkedIn) https://www.linkedin.com/in/kathleen-ferguson1/ (Kate Ferguson | LinkedIn) https://www.linkedin.com/in/vijaykarthavya/ (Vijaya Karthavya Kudithipudi, PMP® | LinkedIn) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0iuFU7qh8M&t=974s (FinOps March 2022 Summit - More State of FinOps Data - YouTube) https://events.linuxfoundation.org/finops-x/ (FinOps X | Linux Foundation Events) - Registration and information for FinOps X Learn more and join the FinOps Foundation at www.FinOps.org.

Episode 4 Kim Wier - FinOps as Product Part 1 Kim Wier, Director of Efficiency Engineering at Target, joins the show and shares her career path, how she has built her team, leveraging Target's culture and commitment to learn. We also dive into the why and how Kim's team are building their own FinOps toolset. You do not want to miss this conversation! Register for FinOpsX: https://events.linuxfoundation.org/finops-x/ (X.FinOps.Org) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0iuFU7qh8M&t=974s (FinOps March 2022 Summit - More State of FinOps Data - YouTube) https://www.linkedin.com/in/kim-wier-2a31bb3/ (Kim Wier | LinkedIn) https://www.cio.com/article/304895/target-cio-mike-mcnamara-technology-is-too-important-to-outsource.html (Target CIO Mike McNamara: Technology is too important to outsource | CIO) Learn more and join the FinOps Foundation at www.FinOps.org.

Episode 3 FinOps Foundation in the U.K. Join the FinOps Foundation staff on their trip to the United Kingdom! Listen to clips of the London Roadshow and experience connecting with FinOps peers with Noel Crowley. Then get an overview of the staff offsite in Edinburgh. Register for FinOpsX: https://events.linuxfoundation.org/finops-x/ (X.FinOps.Org) London Roadshow presenters: https://www.linkedin.com/in/natalie-daley-6b063239/ (Natalie Daley) https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhirani/ (Bhups Hirani) https://www.linkedin.com/in/sanjay-apte-0b398811/ (Sanjay Apte) Learn more and join the FinOps Foundation at www.FinOps.org.

2 Ben de Mora - The Chaos Is To Be Embraced Ben de Mora may be the newest staff member at the FinOps Foundation, but he is absolutely not new to the Foundation at all. Ben has been a FinOps Instructor for years and he shares his experiences teaching the FinOps Certified Practitioner course. The conversation goes in a number of different directions - architecture, sustainability, estimated cloud costs and banjo. As Ben reminds us, the chaos is to be embraced. Key Moments 06:52 - FinOps Certified Practitioner Course 11:08 - FinOps & Architecture 18:52 - Implications of preemptible compute and sustainability 24:57 - Cost estimates while launching infrastructure https://x.finops.org/ (FinOps X, June 20-21, Austin, Texas) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lefCU2ptsio&t=558s (FinOps NYC Meetup Jan 2022: Ali Khajeh-Hosseini, co-founder Infracost - YouTube) https://learn.finops.org/ (FinOps Training & Certification) https://www.linkedin.com/in/bendemora/ (Ben de Mora | LinkedIn) https://www.allmusic.com/song/new-shoes-mt0003036295 (New Shoes - Eric Bibb | Song Info | AllMusic) - Song that Ben's father plays banjo on. Be sure to follow FinOpsPod to catch the latest episodes. Learn more about the FinOps Foundation at FinOps.org.

Episode 1 Deana Solis - Building Trust & FinOps Culture FinOps Pod launches for the first time with guest is Deana Solis, Sr. FinOps Engineer at Smarsh. Deana has been an active practitioner member of the FinOps Foundation since early 2020 and has been an active contributor to working groups in the foundation. During the interview, Deana goes over the importance of community, diversity and how to build trust when implementing a FinOps culture. Key Moments: [10:46] - Thinking about people when designing policies and process [15:18] - Culture clashes between new and experienced workers when implementing change [20:08] - Finance vs Engineering culture clashes [23:06] - Diversity in styles of work [32:11] - "Not Savings Plans for RDS" Relevant Links https://www.linkedin.com/in/solisdeana/ (Deana Solis LinkedIn Profile) https://www.linkedin.com/in/noelcrowley/ (Noel Crowley LinkedIn Profile) https://www.linkedin.com/in/stacy-case/ (Stacy Case LinkedIn Profile) https://www.linkedin.com/in/joseph-daly-52789220/ (Joe Daly LinkedIn Profile) https://www.finops.org/projects/identifying-shared-costs/ (FinOps Foundation Shared Costs Working Group - Guide to Spreading Out Shared Costs) Learn more and join the FinOps Foundation at www.FinOps.org. Music by https://pixabay.com/users/skilsel-22933514/?tab=audio&utm_source=link-attribution&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=audio&utm_content=8303 (Skilsel) from https://pixabay.com/music/?utm_source=link-attribution&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=music&utm_content=8303 (Pixabay)