Intersect: Where Church Meets Culture

"Metaverse Madness" Have you heard about the metaverse? Are you living in the metaverse already? Why is Facebook now called Meta? And do you need to take out a second mortgage and buy the new Apple Vision Pro glasses? Josh and Betsy are here to guide you through all these issues and more, so bring your “main character energy” and leave your NPC attitude behind as we jump into another exciting episode of "Intersect: Where Church Meets Culture". Items Discussed:  "We've Lost the Plot"-- The Atlantic Article "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee"-- Book Betsy discussed Suggestions for future episodes? Email us at intersect@nepres.com Intersect Podcast is a ministry of Northeast Presbyterian Church. The views expressed on this podcast are those of Josh and Betsy Desch and are not intended to be presented as the official views of NEPC. Please see our Intersect Podcast landing page for further information.

"A Bridge Too Far — Assisted Death in Canada" Who has the right to determine when they die? For most of history, taking one's own life has been viewed as something society should prevent at all costs. Yet in Canada today, assisted suicide is on the rise. In fact, the government has made it a legal option. Josh and Betsy put these concerning trends under the microscope as they examine a difficult but highly pertinent topic: should we have the power to determine when we die? Items Discussed:  "How Canada's Assisted Suicide Law Went Wrong"-- The Atlantic Article Suggestions for future episodes? Email us at intersect@nepres.com Intersect Podcast is a ministry of Northeast Presbyterian Church. The views expressed on this podcast are those of Josh and Betsy Desch and are not intended to be presented as the official views of NEPC. Please see our Intersect Podcast landing page for further information.

"F·R·I·E·N·D·S, Friendship, and the Secret Sauce" “The passing of Matthew Perry, the actor known to so many as "Chandler Bing" on the popular TV Show "FRIENDS", has the world talking about this show again. Josh and Betsy offer their take on why this iconic show has remained nearly as popular today as it was in its heyday. What does FRIENDS teach us about friendship... and have we lost that special something in our uber-digital world of today? Do we still need good friendships? How do we make them?” Join us for this fun conversation, and remember... "we'll be there for you..." Items Discussed:  "What Adults Forget About Friendship"-- The Atlantic Article  "The Six Forces That Fuel Friendship"-- The Atlantic Article "Matthew Perry Found God at his Lowest Moment"-- obituary in Premier Christianity Suggestions for future episodes? Email us at intersect@nepres.com Intersect Podcast is a ministry of Northeast Presbyterian Church. The views expressed on this podcast are those of Josh and Betsy Desch and are not intended to be presented as the official views of NEPC. Please see our Intersect Podcast landing page for further information.

"THROWDOWN - Is the Casualization of Clothing in Our Culture Good or Bad?" “Josh and Betsy are ready to rumble! In this debate style episode they take opposite sides on the question of whether or not the casualization of clothing in America has been a good thing. This episode was prompted by the recent rule change in the United States Senate, which permits Senators to wear pretty much whatever they want on the floor of the Senate. So what will it be, stretchy pants or tailored slacks? You decide!” Items Discussed:  "The Senate Dress Code Gets a Casual Overhaul"-- NY Times Article "Dress Up - What We Lost in the Casual Revolution"-- article in First Things Magazine Suggestions for future episodes? Email us at intersect@nepres.com Intersect Podcast is a ministry of Northeast Presbyterian Church. The views expressed on this podcast are those of Josh and Betsy Desch and are not intended to be presented as the official views of NEPC. Please see our Intersect Podcast landing page for further information.

"A Christian Perspective on Mental Health -- Are Mental Health Professionals the New High Priests?" Mental health is an area of constant growth and awareness in our country. We have certainly seen the demand for mental health services increase since COVID. So how should Christians navigate these challenging waters, especially as it relates to teenagers? In this interview, Josh and Betsy talk with Doctor Mo Hanna, who is both a highly successful child and adolescent psychiatrist and a deeply devoted Christian. Doctor Mo brings two decades of private practice and a keen analysis of the prominent issues in our culture. Get ready for a conversation that covers a wide range of topics and will cause you to think hard about the area of mental health. Books Discussed: "The Toxic War on Masculinity" by Nancy Pearcey (book)  "A Secular Age" by Charles Taylor (book) Suggestions for future episodes? Email us at intersect@nepres.com Intersect Podcast is a ministry of Northeast Presbyterian Church. The views expressed on this podcast are those of Josh and Betsy Desch and are not intended to be presented as the official views of NEPC. Please see our Intersect Podcast landing page for further information.

"Every Human Has A Story" Stories. We read them, we watch them, we live them. Every person has a story, and every person has to make sense of life in terms of a story. That is to say, everyone believes some story about how we got here, what is our purpose, and what happens when we die. We are en-storied beings. Josh and Betsy jump into this topic and help us to think about the big questions. It's time to examine your story. Is it a good one? Show Notes: "Being Mortal:Medicine and What Matters in the End" by Atul Gawande (book) Suggestions for future episodes? Email us at intersect@nepres.com Intersect Podcast is a ministry of Northeast Presbyterian Church. The views expressed on this podcast are those of Josh and Betsy Desch and are not intended to be presented as the official views of NEPC. Please see our Intersect Podcast landing page for further information.

"Résumé Virtues vs. Eulogy Virtues" Have you heard of the difference between ‘résumé virtues' and ‘eulogy virtues'? This distinction, first brought to the public's awareness by NY Times columnist David Brooks, is worth contemplating for all of us. What are we living for? What virtues are we cultivating? Are we more concerned with the things that we put on our resume or the things that others will say about us at our funeral? And how does all of this apply to modern parenting? Show Notes: "The Moral Bucket List" by David Brooks (article) "America's Fever of Workaholism Is Finally Breaking" by Derek Thompson (article) Cobalt Red by Siddharth Kara (book) Suggestions for future episodes? Email us at intersect@nepres.com Intersect Podcast is a ministry of Northeast Presbyterian Church. The views expressed on this podcast are those of Josh and Betsy Desch and are not intended to be presented as the official views of NEPC. Please see our Intersect Podcast landing page for further information.

"Cultivating Intellectual Humility over Intellectual Suspicion" PCA pastor and writer Derek Radney joins Josh and Betsy to talk about our culture of suspicion and bad faith readings of those we disagree with. Why has our culture become so polarized? When should we confront others? What does it mean to have intellectual humility without compromising on the truth? This episode will help you embrace curiosity and gospel-rootedness over fear and suspicion. . Show Notes: Derek Radney Website Derek Radney - Twitter Framing Doctrinal Disagreements - Part 1 Framing Doctrinal Disagreements - Part 2 Suggestions for future episodes? Email us at intersect@nepres.com Intersect Podcast is a ministry of Northeast Presbyterian Church. The views expressed on this podcast are those of Josh and Betsy Desch and are not intended to be presented as the official views of NEPC. Please see our Intersect Podcast landing page for further information.

"You Are Not Your Own... and Why That's a Good Thing" Oftentimes we hear about the benefits of home ownership, but what we don't think about is that our culture is constantly talking to us about self-ownership. We are all constantly hearing the message that we belong to ourselves, and no one else, and that what we do with our lives is totally up to us. Josh and Betsy discuss this cultural belief through a biblical lens, leaning heavily on Alan Noble's excellent book, You Are Not Your Own. Learn how to give up an ownership mindset and instead embrace a stewardship mindset. Show Notes: You Are Not Your Own by Alan Noble (book) Suggestions for future episodes? Email us at intersect@nepres.com Intersect Podcast is a ministry of Northeast Presbyterian Church. The views expressed on this podcast are those of Josh and Betsy Desch and are not intended to be presented as the official views of NEPC. Please see our Intersect Podcast landing page for further information.

"The Gospel According to Elf (The Movie)" Have you seen the movie "Elf", the 2003 comedy starring Will Ferrell? Josh and Betsy love that particular film. But more than the movie, they love one theme that radiates throughout the movie and throughout the Bible: hope. We live in a cynical age. In this episode, Josh and Betsy discuss the gospel and the true meaning of Christmas through the lens of hope. Show Notes: "Elf" the movie on Amazon Prime Suggestions for future episodes? Email us at intersect@nepres.com Intersect Podcast is a ministry of Northeast Presbyterian Church. The views expressed on this podcast are those of Josh and Betsy Desch and are not intended to be presented as the official views of NEPC. Please see our Intersect Podcast landing page for further information. .fusion-body .fusion-builder-column-0{width:100% !important;margin-top : 0px;margin-bottom : 0px;}.fusion-builder-column-0 > .fusion-column-wrapper {padding-top : 0px !important;padding-right : 0px !important;margin-right : 1.92%;padding-bottom : 0px !important;padding-left : 0px !important;margin-left : 1.92%;}@media only screen and (max-width:1024px) {.fusion-body .fusion-builder-column-0{width:100% !important;}.fusion-builder-column-0 > .fusion-column-wrapper {margin-right : 1.92%;margin-left : 1.92%;}}@media only screen and (max-width:640px) {.fusion-body .fusion-builder-column-0{width:100% !important;}.fusion-builder-column-0 > .fusion-column-wrapper {margin-right : 1.92%;margin-left : 1.92%;}}.fusion-body .fusion-flex-container.fusion-builder-row-1{ padding-top : 0px;margin-top : 0px;padding-right : 0px;padding-bottom : 0px;margin-bottom : 0px;padding-left : 0px;}

"David French on the Fracturing of Evangelicalism" Josh and Betsy are joined by nationally recognized writer, speaker and constitutional lawyer David French to discuss what is happening inside of the American Evangelical Church. What makes an evangelical? Why is there so much division? What should Christians be aiming for in political engagement? Finally, David gives us a review of Amazon's show, the Rings of Power. This conversation will challenge and enlighten you. Show Notes: David French, author at The Dispatch Suggestions for future episodes? Email us at intersect@nepres.com Intersect Podcast is a ministry of Northeast Presbyterian Church. The views expressed on this podcast are those of Josh and Betsy Desch and are not intended to be presented as the official views of NEPC. Please see our Intersect Podcast landing page for further information.

"Why Can't We Be Friends? A Conversation about Toxic People" Our culture now regularly labels people and statements as "toxic." What does toxic mean in this sense of the word? Should we cut toxic people out of our lives? Is our culture evolving in a positive way or is this a concerning trend? Josh and Betsy are back to break this down from a Christian perspective, with a little humor mixed in along the way. Show Notes: "That's It. You're Dead to Me." (Article) "A Shift in American Family Values Is Fueling Estrangement" (Article) Suggestions for future episodes? Email us at intersect@nepres.com Intersect Podcast is a ministry of Northeast Presbyterian Church. The views expressed on this podcast are those of Josh and Betsy Desch and are not intended to be presented as the official views of NEPC. Please see our Intersect Podcast landing page for further information. .fusion-body .fusion-builder-column-0{width:100% !important;margin-top : 0px;margin-bottom : 0px;}.fusion-builder-column-0 > .fusion-column-wrapper {padding-top : 0px !important;padding-right : 0px !important;margin-right : 1.92%;padding-bottom : 0px !important;padding-left : 0px !important;margin-left : 1.92%;}@media only screen and (max-width:1024px) {.fusion-body .fusion-builder-column-0{width:100% !important;}.fusion-builder-column-0 > .fusion-column-wrapper {margin-right : 1.92%;margin-left : 1.92%;}}@media only screen and (max-width:640px) {.fusion-body .fusion-builder-column-0{width:100% !important;}.fusion-builder-column-0 > .fusion-column-wrapper {margin-right : 1.92%;margin-left : 1.92%;}}.fusion-body .fusion-flex-container.fusion-builder-row-1{ padding-top : 0px;margin-top : 0px;padding-right : 0px;padding-bottom : 0px;margin-bottom : 0px;padding-left : 0px;}

"Why Are Americans Becoming More Isolated and Does It Matter?" New research shows that more and more people are retreating into their interior worlds. In others words, we are becoming less social people. We are interacting with other people less than prior generations. Is there a price we are paying for being less social? Does God care about how social we are? Josh and Betsy, your favorite amateur researchers, are back to break this down and tease out the implications for the church in 2022. Show Notes: "The Price We Pay for Being Less Social" (Article) "Text Your Friends. It Matters More Than You Think." (Article) Suggestions for future episodes? Email us at intersect@nepres.com Intersect Podcast is a ministry of Northeast Presbyterian Church. The views expressed on this podcast are those of Josh and Betsy Desch and are not intended to be presented as the official views of NEPC. Please see our Intersect Podcast landing page for further information. .fusion-body .fusion-builder-column-0{width:100% !important;margin-top : 0px;margin-bottom : 0px;}.fusion-builder-column-0 > .fusion-column-wrapper {padding-top : 0px !important;padding-right : 0px !important;margin-right : 1.92%;padding-bottom : 0px !important;padding-left : 0px !important;margin-left : 1.92%;}@media only screen and (max-width:1024px) {.fusion-body .fusion-builder-column-0{width:100% !important;}.fusion-builder-column-0 > .fusion-column-wrapper {margin-right : 1.92%;margin-left : 1.92%;}}@media only screen and (max-width:640px) {.fusion-body .fusion-builder-column-0{width:100% !important;}.fusion-builder-column-0 > .fusion-column-wrapper {margin-right : 1.92%;margin-left : 1.92%;}}.fusion-body .fusion-flex-container.fusion-builder-row-1{ padding-top : 0px;margin-top : 0px;padding-right : 0px;padding-bottom : 0px;margin-bottom : 0px;padding-left : 0px;}

  Exploring Trauma - A Review of the Book "The Body Keeps the Score" Josh and Betsy engage a heavy, but extremely important topic in this episode, that of trauma. It's easy to believe that trauma is just about what we can remember with our minds, but ground-breaking new research has shown that trauma is embedded in our physical bodies. Josh and Betsy reflect on the insights of this best-selling, enlightening book. Show Notes: The Body Keeps the Score (book) Suggestions for future episodes? Email us at intersect@nepres.com Intersect Podcast is a ministry of Northeast Presbyterian Church. The views expressed on this podcast are those of Josh and Betsy Desch and are not intended to be presented as the official views of NEPC. Please see our Intersect Podcast landing page for further information.

“Singleness, Celibacy, and Christian Ministry with Rev. Dr. Greg Johnson” Josh and Betsy are joined by Greg Johnson, the Lead Pastor at Historic Memorial Presbyterian Church in Saint Louis, to discuss the topic of singleness, celibacy, and Christian ministry. Has the American evangelical church ignored or marginalized singles? How can the church better care for singles? Who are the single Christians in the history of the church who have made a big impact? And what about what Paul says in 1 Cor. 7? Join the Intersect team for this lively and enlightening conversation about a trending topic in the church. Show Notes: Still Time to Care by Greg Johnson (book) "Infant Baptism" by Greg Johnson (article) Suggestions for future episodes? Email us at intersect@nepres.com Intersect Podcast is a ministry of Northeast Presbyterian Church. The views expressed on this podcast are those of Josh and Betsy Desch and are not intended to be presented as the official views of NEPC. Please see our Intersect Podcast landing page for further information.   .fusion-body .fusion-builder-column-0{width:100% !important;margin-top : 0px;margin-bottom : 0px;}.fusion-builder-column-0 > .fusion-column-wrapper {padding-top : 0px !important;padding-right : 0px !important;margin-right : 1.92%;padding-bottom : 0px !important;padding-left : 0px !important;margin-left : 1.92%;}@media only screen and (max-width:1024px) {.fusion-body .fusion-builder-column-0{width:100% !important;}.fusion-builder-column-0 > .fusion-column-wrapper {margin-right : 1.92%;margin-left : 1.92%;}}@media only screen and (max-width:640px) {.fusion-body .fusion-builder-column-0{width:100% !important;}.fusion-builder-column-0 > .fusion-column-wrapper {margin-right : 1.92%;margin-left : 1.92%;}}.fusion-body .fusion-flex-container.fusion-builder-row-1{ padding-top : 0px;margin-top : 0px;padding-right : 0px;padding-bottom : 0px;margin-bottom : 0px;padding-left : 0px;}

“The Restorative Power of Silence” Season five is here! Josh and Betsy kick off the new season by discussing the power of silence in our lives. Why is silence hard? What good can it do for us? Drawing on the insights of Dallas Willard, they present a strong case for building in times of silence in your life. Show Notes: The Spirit of the Disciplines by Dallas Willard (book) Suggestions for future episodes? Email us at intersect@nepres.com Intersect Podcast is a ministry of Northeast Presbyterian Church. The views expressed on this podcast are those of Josh and Betsy Desch and are not intended to be presented as the official views of NEPC. Please see our Intersect Podcast landing page for further information.   .fusion-body .fusion-builder-column-3{width:100% !important;margin-top : 0px;margin-bottom : 0px;}.fusion-builder-column-3 > .fusion-column-wrapper {padding-top : 0px !important;padding-right : 0px !important;margin-right : 1.92%;padding-bottom : 0px !important;padding-left : 0px !important;margin-left : 1.92%;}@media only screen and (max-width:1024px) {.fusion-body .fusion-builder-column-3{width:100% !important;}.fusion-builder-column-3 > .fusion-column-wrapper {margin-right : 1.92%;margin-left : 1.92%;}}@media only screen and (max-width:640px) {.fusion-body .fusion-builder-column-3{width:100% !important;}.fusion-builder-column-3 > .fusion-column-wrapper {margin-right : 1.92%;margin-left : 1.92%;}}.fusion-body .fusion-flex-container.fusion-builder-row-4{ padding-top : 0px;margin-top : 0px;padding-right : 0px;padding-bottom : 0px;margin-bottom : 0px;padding-left : 0px;}

“Staying Dapper as a Dad” The finale is here! Josh and Betsy are joined by Andrew Eckstrom to talk about how to stay dapper as a dad of four kids. In addition to discussing this important topic, they talk about Andrew's efforts to raise money for cancer research and the importance of men being in a men's Bible study. Finally, for the first time ever on Intersect, we introduce the lighting round. Hope you enjoy!   Show Notes: Lebron James on his draft day Real Men Wear Pink | American Cancer Society Football vs. Fútbol Suggestions for future episodes? Email us at intersect@nepres.com

“From Branding Products to Branding Ourselves” Social Media . . . these days, platforms like Instagram are the dominant channel through which many brands advertise. But in our quest to gain followers and get likes, have we become the product? Are we now branding ourselves? And if so, what impact is that making on our lives? Josh and Betsy dive into the world of Instagram for this interesting topic and bring Christian principles to the world of Social Media.   Show Notes: Most followers per social media platform (stats) The Connected Child (book) Suggestions for future episodes? Email us at intersect@nepres.com

“Wake Up, People...You're a Miracle” What an amazing universe we live in! There are over 100 billion galaxies in the universe. Each galaxy contains hundreds of billions of stars. In this episode, Betsy and Josh discuss the book, Astrophysics for Young People in a Hurry, By Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson. Why does our amazing universe not move us to wonder more? Have we taken time recently to just take in the miracle of God's creation? It's time to talk Physics 101 and regain our sense of wonder. It's time to wake up.   Show Notes: Astrophysics for Young People in a Hurry (book) Blitzed: Drugs in the Third Reich (book) Empire of Pain: The Secret History of the Sackler Dynasty (book) Suggestions for future episodes? Email us at intersect@nepres.com

“Clothing, Consumption, and the Christian Life” Clothes, we all own plenty of them, and they help define who we are. But why have clothes gotten so cheap? What is the story behind the clothes we wear? Where were they made? Who made them? And should we care? Josh and Betsy bring a Christian worldview to the topic of clothing and consumption. In this episode, you will find a critical analysis of fast fashion and some practical suggestions for those who want to bring their faith to bear on their wardrobe. So suit up, and listen in!   Show Notes: The True Cost (Documentary) Unravel (Short documentary) Overdressed: The Shockingly High Cost of Cheap Fashion (book) Online Thrift Stores (article and guide) Invisible Child (book) Suggestions for future episodes? Email us at intersect@nepres.com

“Football vs Fútbol” Are you ready for the debate of the century? Josh and Betsy are back to debate one another on this question: Which sport is better, American Football or what the rest of the world calls Football/Futbol? Producer Billy Grooms serves as the debate judge and picks a winner at the end. This debate will change your life . . . or at least give you a little entertainment!   Show Notes: Suggestions for future episodes? Email us at intersect@nepres.com

“Learning to Love the Gospels, Part 2” Josh and Betsy are back with Dr. Dan Doriani to discuss what makes each of the four gospels unique. Dan also shares about how he came to love the gospel of Matthew, and what gospel stories are deeply meaningful to him. Finally, he shares a bit about his own podcast, Working with Dan Doriani. Enjoy the second part of this conversation with a world-class biblical scholar.   Show Notes: Dr. Doriani's podcast: "Working with Dan Doriani" Suggestions for future episodes? Email us at intersect@nepres.com

“Learning to Love the Gospels, Part 1” Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. We all know about the four gospels. But do we love them? And what's wrong with just reading other parts of the Bible, like the Psalms or Paul's letters, while not focusing on the gospels?  Josh and Betsy are joined by Dr. Dan Doriani, Professor of Biblical and Systematic Theology at Covenant Theological Seminary, to tackle these questions and more.   Show Notes: Dr. Doriani's podcast: "Working with Dan Doriani" Suggestions for future episodes? Email us at intersect@nepres.com

“The Messy Work of True Love with Jim Pocta Pt. 2” In the second part of this interview, counselor Jim Pocta shares how we can develop a culture of grace where all kinds of people are enveloped and discipled. Jim also addresses repentance, and how we can grow our witness to the world through a willingness to share our story. You will be blessed by the second part of this powerful interview.   Show Notes: PCA's Report on Human Sexuality Gay Girl, Good God by Jackie Hill Perry (Book) Born Again This Way by Rachel Gilson (Book) Suggestions for future episodes? Email us at intersect@nepres.com

“The Messy Work of True Love with Jim Pocta Pt. 1” Josh and Betsy are joined by Jim Pocta, a ruling elder in the PCA, and a professional counselor who lives in Dallas, Texas. Jim joins them to talk about the messy work of true love. In first part of this interview, Jim shares his story, talks about the PCA's report on Human Sexuality, and talks about what the church can do to care for those with same-sex attraction.   Show Notes: PCA's Report on Human Sexuality Gay Girl, Good God by Jackie Hill Perry (Book) Born Again This Way by Rachel Gilson (Book) Suggestions for future episodes? Email us at intersect@nepres.com

“Worship Pt. 2: Working Your Worship Muscles” Josh and Betsy are back with the second half of their interview on worship with Jeremy Buzzard and Kerri Roberts. What should you do when you don't feel like going to church and worshipping? Are worship and discipleship connected? How do we worship God with both our minds and our hearts? These are just some of the questions addressed in the second half of this lively conversation.   Show Notes: NEPC's Worship Weekly Playlist (YouTube) Suggestions for future episodes? Email us at intersect@nepres.com

“Worship Pt. 1: Growing as Worshippers” Josh and Betsy are joined by Jeremy Buzzard and Kerri Roberts to discuss the topic of worship. What does it mean to be a lead worshipper? What is a worship culture? Where in the Scriptures do we see worship? This dynamic discussion with two incredibly gifted lead worshippers will sharpen your mind and warm your heart.   Show Notes: NEPC's Worship Weekly Playlist (YouTube) Suggestions for future episodes? Email us at intersect@nepres.com

“Getting Healthy for the Glory of God - Part 2” Josh and Betsy continue their discussion on why our health matters to God. Because Christians know that we are going to heaven after we die, it can be easy to neglect our bodies while we live. Praise God that this life isn't all there is! However, that is no excuse to not care for our bodies. Check out the second part of a fascinating discussion on why God gave us bodies, why we should care for our bodies, and some practical tips on how to do that.   Show Notes: Full (book) Love to Eat, Hate to Eat (book) Love Thy Body (book) Animal Vegetable Junk (book) Salt Sugar Fat (book) Suggestions for future episodes? Email us at intersect@nepres.com

“Getting Healthy for the Glory of God - Part 1” Well, the holidays are upon us! And that means lots of cookies and sweets of all kinds. Josh and Betsy love sugar as much as the next guy, but where does our Christian faith come in when it comes to what we eat? Or more generally, how does our faith impact our relationship with our bodies in general? Josh and Betsy engage in a two-part discussion on why being healthy matters not just physically but also spiritually. Put the cookie down and check it out!     Show Notes: Love Thy Body (book) Animal Vegetable Junk (book) Salt Sugar Fat (book) Suggestions for future episodes? Email us at intersect@nepres.com

“Exploring Social Media and Identity” Why do we all use Social Media? What do we get out of it? How does it affect us? What are its positives and negatives? In this episode, Josh and Betsy explore under the hood of Social Media and offer biblical analysis on how we should think about and use it. Become better equipped to engage on your favorite Social Media platform after listening to this episode.     Show Notes: Breaking the Social Media Prism (Book) "Can Social Media Foster Persuasion (Not Polarization)?" - Article Suggestions for future episodes? Email us at intersect@nepres.com

“Atomic Habits: A Book Review” Habits! We all have them. Ones we like, ones we don't like so much. On this episode of Intersect, Josh and Betsy talk about the book, Atomic Habits. What is the role of habits in the Christian life? What can we glean from this fascinating book? Whatever your habits, join Josh and Betsy for another conversation where church meets culture.     Show Notes: Atomic Habits (Book) Eat the Buddha (Book)   Suggestions for future episodes? Email us at intersect@nepres.com

“Exvangelicals — Deconstruction and Deconversion Pt. 2” In part two, Josh and Betsy continue their discussion on the trending Exvangelical phenomena. In this episode, they address how Christians should respond. Is evangelical still a label worth keeping? What should the foundation for the evangelical movement be in the future? Tune in and figure out where you land on this pressing cultural issue.     Show Notes: Jen Hatmaker and the Power of De-Conversion Stories (Article) The Rise of #Exvangelical (Article) A Pastor's Son Becomes a Critic of Religion on TikTok (Article) Jesus and John Wayne (Book)   Suggestions for future episodes? Email us at intersect@nepres.com

“Exvangelicals — Deconstruction and Deconversion Pt. 1” Exvangelical. Have you heard the term? There is a growing number of people rejecting the label evangelical. Many are doing so for political reasons, but there are actually a number of factors at work. Josh and Betsy kick off season 4 with a provocative discussion on those who are deconstructing their evangelical faith.     Show Notes: Jen Hatmaker and the Power of De-Conversion Stories (Article) The Rise of #Exvangelical (Article) A Pastor's Son Becomes a Critic of Religion on TikTok (Article)   Suggestions for future episodes? Email us at intersect@nepres.com

“Season 3 Recap” Josh and Betsy are back with a final episode of season 3. What a year it's been! Josh and Betsy review the different episodes from this past season, from the various interviews they did to addressing hot topics like the transgender debate. They also offer a preview of where things are headed in season four! Join Josh and Betsy for another engaging and thoughtful discussion on the intersection of where the church meets our culture. Show Notes: Season 3 episodes – listen to them all! “Josh and Betsy Are Out of Quarantine” -301 “How To Be a Blessing” -302 “Hot Take! Netflix's ‘The Social Dilemma'” -303 “Who Is Catechizing Our Kids?” -304 “Confronting Homelessness in Columbia, SC and Beyond” -305 “2020 – What a Year!!!”-306 “Barriers and Bridges to Racial Unity Among Christians” -307 “How Can Black and White Christians Model Unity in Divided America?” -308 “Just Mercy: A Book Review” -309 “What Have You Been Reading?” -310 “Understanding the Gender and Trans Debate” -311 “Equipping Families in the Trans Discussion” -312 “Are We in a Teen Mental Health Crisis? Part 1” -313 “Are We in a Teen Mental Health Crisis? Part 2” -314 “When Famous Christians Fall” -315 “Season 3 Recap” -316 Suggestions for future episodes? Email us at intersect@nepres.com

“When Famous Christians Fall” Ravi Zacharias, Bill Hybels, Carl Lentz . . . What are Christians supposed to make of the downfall of prominent voices in evangelical spaces? In this episode, Josh and Betsy take a deep dive into the celebrity evangelical complex and what it says about the modern-day church. They also offer ways that Christians can be less immersed in evangelical celebrity culture and more locally rooted. Show Notes: On Guard: Defending Your Faith with Reason and Precision by William Lane Craig Questions? Email us at intersect@nepres.com    

“Are We in a Teen Mental Health Crisis? Part 2” During the second half of this interview, Dr. Hanna brings an explicitly Christian perspective on questions of mental health. What can parents do? What should parents be thinking about? What is the root cause of this crisis? What resources are available to parents? You will find the second half of this interview just as enlightening as the first part. Show Notes: Christian Counseling and Education Foundation (CCEF) Gentle and Lowly: The Heart of Christ for Sinners and Sufferers by Dane Ortlund Fool's Talk: Recovering the Art of Christian Persuasion by Os Guinness Questions? Email us at intersect@nepres.com    

“Are We in a Teen Mental Health Crisis? Part 1” Josh and Betsy interview Dr. Mohab Hanna, child and adolescent psychiatrist and published author, on the question of whether or not we are currently living in a teen mental health crisis. Dr. Hanna, who is a committed and thoughtful Christian, provides a helpful overview of the state of mental health among teens today. This is part 1 of a two-part interview. Show Notes: Christian Counseling and Education Foundation (CCEF) Gentle and Lowly: The Heart of Christ for Sinners and Sufferers by Dane Ortlund Fool's Talk: Recovering the Art of Christian Persuasion by Os Guinness Questions? Email us at intersect@nepres.com    

“Equipping Families in the Trans Discussion” The trans discussion is out in the open like never before. Teens today don’t bat an eyelash when other students come out as trans. How can parents and other concerned adults come alongside teens and support them with biblical love and truth? In this episode, Josh and Betsy interview Julie Palekas, a longtime student ministry worker and a wise voice in the trans discussion. Listen and be equipped. Show Notes: Book: Embodied by Preston Sprinkle Book: Understanding Gender Dysphoria by Dr. Mark Yarhouse Book: Understanding Sexual Identity by Dr. Mark Yarhouse Handbook: Guiding Families of LGBT+ Loved Ones by Lead Them Home Book: Love Thy Body by Nancy Pearcey Book: Growing Young by Kara Powell, Jake Mulder, & Brad Griffin Book: The Beautiful Community by Dr. Irwyn Ince   Questions? Email us at intersect@nepres.com    

“Understanding the Gender and Trans Debate”   With the Equality Act now in the halls of congress, you may be wondering, “What is the state of the gender debate in America?” Josh and Betsy are here to help you understand transgender questions and positions being discussed today with their latest episode. They cover questions like: 1. What is this debate about? 2. What is Gender Dysphoria? 3. What does the bible say about gender issues? 4. What does science say about gender issues? 5. What does this mean for the future? Josh and Betsy bring a thoughtful and biblical worldview to the questions of gender being asked today. Listen and learn! Show Notes: "What is Gender Dysphoria?" (Article) An Endocrinologist’s Perspective on Puberty Blockers and Cross Sex Hormones‪ (Theology in the Raw podcast episode) Questions? Email us at intersect@nepres.com    

“What Have You Been Reading?”   In this episode, Josh and Betsy each share about a book that they have been reading recently. Josh shares about the book “Reading While Black” by Dr. Esau McCaulley, and Betsy shares about the book “The Divine Conspiracy” by Dallas Willard. Both of these books bring insights that will help Christians walk faithfully with the Lord. Show Notes: Reading While Black by Dr. Esau McCaulley The Divine Conspiracy by Dallas Willard Questions? Email us at intersect@nepres.com    

“Just Mercy: A Book Review”   In this episode, Josh and Betsy discuss the book Just Mercy by Bryan Stevenson. Stevenson is the founder of Equal Justice Initiative (EJI), and his book has captured the attention of many as he talks about the importance of fighting injustice in society. These are relevant and crucial issues for white Christians in America to engage in. Show Notes: (Video) Grace, Justice, & Mercy: An Evening with Bryan Stevenson & Rev. Tim Keller (Article) 'Just Mercy' Author Bryan Stevenson on Faith, Death Row Advocacy Questions? Email us at intersect@nepres.com    

“How Can Black and White Christians Model Unity in Divided America?”   We live in a polarized country. How can Christians show our witness to the watching world? Pastor Stephen Splawn of First Northeast Baptist Church returns for a second conversation with Josh and Betsy. This episode focuses on how the church is doing with race relations in terms of our witness to the world. Pastor Stephen gives honest critique and helpful suggestions on how the church and individual believers can grow in this area. You will be stretched, challenged, and built up through this episode. Show Notes: Racial Reconciliation Book Recommendations Questions? Email us at intersect@nepres.com    

"Barriers and Bridges to Racial Unity Among Christians"   In this episode, Josh and Betsy sit down with Stephen Splawn, the Pastor of First Northeast Baptist Church in Columbia, to talk about a necessary and controversial topic in America today: race relations in the church. Pastor Splawn’s transparency and biblical insight make this a "can’t miss" episode for our listeners, in particular White Christians desiring to understand the perspective of their Black brothers and sisters in Christ.   Questions? Email us at intersect@nepres.com    

"2020 - What a Year!!!"   Bonus holiday episode! 2020 has been hard, so Josh and Betsy conclude the year with a light-hearted conversation about different things they have experienced in 2020, including many of their favorite Christmas-related things. Nothing serious here, just good, clean fun. Hopefully this episode will provide a little holiday cheer to those who listen.   Questions? Email us at intersect@nepres.com    

"Confronting Homelessness in Columbia, SC and Beyond"   In this episode, Josh and Betsy interview Craig Currey, CEO of Transitions Homeless Center in Columbia, SC. Craig dispels common myths about homelessness and provides practical ways that Christians can and should engage this challenge. Jesus told us to care about the least and the lost. Listen to this episode so that you will become better equipped to do just that. Show Notes: The Biblical Basis for Caring for the Homeless Transitions Homeless Center website Transitions resource cards: Print and cut out these double-sided cards and carry them with you to hand out to homeless individuals in Columbia, SC Questions? Email us at intersect@nepres.com    

"Who Is Catechizing Our Kids?"   "Catechism" is an old word that describes training and instruction in the fundamentals of the faith. Who is catechizing Christian kids today? Is it only the job of the church? What role do parents play and how can we catechize our kids in the daily grind of life? Join Josh and Betsy as they discuss a surprisingly relevant topic. The next generation is at stake. Show Notes: "Sunday School Isn't Enough for Christian Kids" (2020) | Tim Keller https://www.christianpost.com/news/in-culture-pushing-gospel-without-god-sunday-school-isnt-enough-for-christian-kids-tim-keller-says.html Questions? Email us at intersect@nepres.com      

Hot Take! Netflix's "The Social Dilemma"   This recent documentary film has elicited both great praise and strong criticism. Josh and Betsy do a film review to engage a pressing topic of our day. "How should Christians think about social media?" "How can it be used well?" A wide range of technology topics are covered in this energetic discussion.   Show Notes: The Social Dilemma movie review (2020) | Roger Ebert “The Social Dilemma” Review: Unplug and Run - The New York Times Facebook's Rebuttal: "What 'The Social Dilemma' Gets Wrong What ‘The Social Dilemma’ Misunderstands about Social Networks - The Verge "The Social Dilemma" Movie Review - The Verge Dog Hugs Another Dog to Apologize for Eating Their Chewy (Video) Questions? Email us at intersect@nepres.com      

"How To Be a Blessing"   In this episode, Josh and Betsy are joined by Jason Pittman, Pastor of Discipleship and Next Gen. Ministries at Northeast Presbyterian Church, to talk about the thought-provoking and practical acronym, "BLESS". How can we live out our faith? How can we share our faith? This episode will provide you with practical ways to live out the Great Commission. Questions? Email us at intersect@nepres.com        

"Josh and Betsy Are Out of Quarantine"   Welcome to Intersect Season 3! Where have Josh and Betsy been? Well, they are officially out of quarantine and ready to talk through the blessings and challenges of living in a global pandemic. 2020 has been hard! But there have been blessings as well. This episode will prompt you to reflect on what your experience has been like in 2020. Questions? Email us at intersect@nepres.com        

"Should You Follow Your Heart?"   "Follow your heart"                  "Be true to yourself" "You do you"                               "Find Yourself" We hear these kinds of expressions all the time. But are they true? Should we listen to them? If people came back from 500 years in the future to look at our culture, what would they say about what we believe? On the latest episode of Intersect, Josh and Betsy look at the unseen forces that drive everything, the ideas and beliefs that our culture promotes. Put your thinking cap on, and get ready to laugh on the latest from Intersect.   Show Notes: Dutch Man wants to change his age to fight age discrimination: "DailyMail Article" The story behind the real "Marlboro Man": The Real Marlboro Man - Atlantic Magazine "HiddenWorld Views", book on Amazon: HiddenWorld Views Questions? Email us at intersect@nepres.com

"Can Lipstick Hide Eternity?"   Tom Ford owns the world... at least that what many people would assume. The superstar fashion designer, who once worked at Gucci and then started his own brand that now brings in $2 billion in annual sales, has it all. Still, questions of death and what comes next still nag at him. So instead of dwelling on the grand questions of life, Ford distracts himself with tasks such as picking a new color of lipstick for his brand. In this episode, Josh and Betsy explore how God has set eternity on everyone’s heart, including Tom Ford’s, and dig into the different things we all do to distract ourselves from what really matters. Maybe we aren’t so different from Ford after all?   Show Notes: Vogue article on Tom Ford: "A Man for All Seasons"  Shock Yourself? or Think... article from the magazine "Science" Questions? Email us at intersect@nepres.com