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In today's episode, I welcome Christopher John Garcia! Chris has had an amazing career journey as a museum curator and historian for the Computer History Museum, as well as podcaster and painter, and he talks about everything from AI-generated art to his podcast that discusses pieces of artwork in under three minutes. (Fun fact: the cover image for this episode is of one of Chris' original pieces of artwork!) Get in touch with Christopher John Garcia: https://www.facebook.com/JohnnyEponymous | https://www.instagram.com/johnnyeponymous/ Support Artfully Told: www.paypal.me/elevateart Artfully Told links: www.facebook.com/artfullytold | www.artfullytold.podbean.com | elevateartskc@gmail.com Get a free audiobook through Audible! http://www.audibletrial.com/ArtfullyTold Schedule your own interview as a featured guest with Artfully Told! https://calendly.com/artfullytold/podcast-interview Episode 52 - Christopher John Garcia Lindsey Dinneen: Hello, and welcome to Artfully Told, where we share true stories about meaningful encounters with art. [00:00:06] Krista: I think artists help people have different perspectives on every aspect of life. [00:00:12]Roman: All I can do is put my part in to the world. [00:00:15] Elizabeth: It doesn't have to be perfect the first time. It doesn't have to be perfect ever really. I mean, as long as you, and you're enjoying doing it and you're trying your best, that can be good enough. [00:00:23] Elna: Art is something that you can experience with your senses and that you just experiences as so beautiful. [00:00:31]Lindsey Dinneen: Hello, and welcome back to another episode of Artfully Told. I'm your host Lindsey, and I am delighted to have as my guest today, Christopher John Garcia, who is a curator, historian, and podcaster, and I'm just so excited to chat with him all about art and all the different ways that he has engaged with art and that he's currently still doing. And so thank you so much for being here, Chris. I really, really appreciate it. [00:01:00] Christopher John Garcia: Yeah, thanks so much for having me always glad to chat. [00:01:03] Lindsey Dinneen: Of course. If it's about art, I'm in. [00:01:05]Christopher John Garcia: Yeah, absolutely. [00:01:07] Lindsey Dinneen: Yes. Well again, thanks for being here. And I would just love if you would share maybe a little bit about your background, how you got involved in your various art forms, and maybe a little of where you are today, too. [00:01:21] Christopher John Garcia: Cool. Well, it's started long, long ago. 1999. I became a curator at the Computer History Museum and my focus was on computer graphics, music and art with an emphasis on early computer art. So 1950s through about 1980. And by going into that, you know, I had a little bit of an art history background. I minored in it in college and I've always been an art nerd. And I ended up starting a couple of podcasts that were actually centered around early computer art. One was called " Engineers and Enthusiasts," which is on a hiatus as soon as I can find all my files. But the second one is a "Three-Minute Modernist," which is, I take a single artwork usually, and I break it down in three minutes as sort of a, an emotional impact statement is what I do in three minutes, which can be a lot harder for big pieces than little you'd be surprised. But yeah, and so all of that. Then for some reason, I ended up staying home a lot in 2020, and I decided, you know, maybe I should become a painter. And so I, you know, I had never painted before. And so I decided, well fine. And I started doing a lot of my own paintings, which are semi-abstract expressionists works. What I usually do is I just squeeze paint directly onto paper, put another piece on top of it and then peel them apart. And then I'll do this with several sheets. So it's sort of a combination printing, painting methodology. But yeah, so it's, I'm your basic all around art nerd. [00:02:51] Lindsey Dinneen: I love it. Okay. Well, I am so excited to hear more about all of the different things, but especially the podcast. I'm so intrigued by that concept. I love it. What a challenge too, so kudos to you. But yeah. Okay. So breaking down artwork and sort of talking about it and having the constraint of three minutes, first of all, where did that idea come from? And then I guess second of all, how hard is that? [00:03:16]Christopher John Garcia: Well, the idea actually came from a Doctor Who podcast. There is a Doctor Who podcast called "Two-Minute Time Lord." And it is it takes a Doctor Who episode or a topic surrounding Dr. Who and does a two minute episode. That's basically what you would say around the water cooler. And I figured, you know what? If it's good enough for the goose, it's good enough to be stolen by the gander. And I decided to take that concept and apply it to art because one, art has sort of discreet chunks. And I was seeing a lot of works that were-- I wouldn't say small-- but they were works that you could sort of come up with at least a nugget that you could expand on in for a couple of minutes without problem. [00:04:03] And I learned that by looking at a discreet portion, it gave you one, a chance to really sort of look across the board. You could look at one piece from various areas, but two, it allowed you to go really fast. And so my proof of concept was a good five episodes before I released anything and realized, yeah, this will work. And then I realized that if I kept it to just modern and contemporary art, it would allow me to single out one area instead of going all the way around the world, having to deal with all the things, 'cause once you get into the more realist stuff and the movement and the genre works, you kind of get, you have to go longer. But with the contemporary stuff, you could more deal with the impact of the work on particularly, in this case, me and how it emotionally triggered sensations and feelings and take it sort of a little bit out of a, sort of a more academic realm and into a realm of art appreciation that I really love. Things like, you know, Sister Wendy, for example, used to be a favorite of mine, but there's not really one of those for contemporary arts, so much that deals directly with individual pieces. And, you know, I figured it'd be a great place to go. And I realized that "art podcast" is a crowded field. And I said, me too. [00:05:28]Lindsey Dinneen: Indeed. Well, good for you. And again, I love that concept and I just think that's so cool. So, okay. So in dealing with modern and contemporary art, are you-- just out of curiosity-- are you going to galleries and being inspired by something particular or are you finding things on the internet or how is your process of deciding which art to kind of feature and unpack? [00:05:54] Christopher John Garcia: Well, I have a very complex algorithm to do that. Random. Basically, yeah, I go to a lot of museums. In particular, I go to SF MOMA, the Anderson collection at Stanford, the Cantor Art Museum when I can get there to moment itself. And I also have a massive collection of photographs because I'm that guy at a museum who takes a picture of everything. So it's really based largely on what I encounter typically at museums. I do some web stuff. In particular, I'm starting to do more stuff with Instagram artists who I meet typically through Clubhouse who are working. And I find pieces that really resonate with something I speak of a lot. Like the next issue I'm doing is about a work that very much reminds me of two of my favorite artists, Lichtenstein and then Sam Francis, and it looks like what happened if they were to work together. [00:06:46]But yeah, it's all over the place. One of our recent episodes was about the work of Sol LeWitt that they turned into an app. I think it was by The Met, but it might've been a sort of an associated group that was how Sol LeWitt and his work-- and it's this very contained app that actually gives you a lot of different views into how Sol LeWitt goes. So it's a little bit across the board. I do some video art, a little bit of music, but I tend towards sound art and soundscape type stuff. And sort of looking at how they are still, it's all about the effect of you more emotionally, but also there's sort of what I call the emotional intellect, which is a thought that you have that isn't necessarily logical or reasonable, but it is a thought that provokes that same sort of region. [00:07:42]Lindsey Dinneen: Cool. Very cool. Well, and you know, random is good too. I like complex algorithm. That was entertaining. So, okay. So yeah, that sounds like a really interesting way to go about it in terms of, you know, it's, it's also just like, well, what is speaking to me right now? And then, so I'm curious, in your process for these episodes, I know you've talked about maybe unpacking it sort of on an emotional level in what it evokes, but are you also going into the history? Are you looking into the context behind it from the artist's point of view or mostly just sticking with your own personal interpretation? [00:08:20]Christopher John Garcia: You kind of have to do both. And you know, for example, if I talk about "Guernica" by Picasso, you kind of have to say the Spanish Civil War happened. But you don't necessarily have to go into specifically Picasso's long history in Cubism, his blue period, but you kind of have to make nods toward them . But what's really fascinating in a work like-- "Guernica" is a great example, and an episode I haven't done-- is when you pull out an aspect that has an emotional impact on you and for me, it's that, that wailing mother with her hands up and that sort of disjointed head that emotional impact also triggers an idea that, "Oh, well, this actually very much speaks to Picasso's Cubist period, this very much has this sort of the blue period emotional impact that he carried through the early part of his career." So it sort of naturally flows out of that, that you do deal with some of the, the history and the technique aspect. I don't deal deeply with technique most of the time, largely because art technique is still a little bit mysterious to me, but I really do try. You know, art has, if I decided to go in all art history nerd, like I often do with my wife, sadly it would be a six hour podcast. [00:09:44]Lindsey Dinneen: So then in knowing yourself, you know what you need to limit yourself to. I like it. Yeah. I like it. Okay, cool. Well, okay. So your career is very cool and very unique, and I'm just curious, how do you sort of fall into an-- obviously you didn't fall into it-- but fall into a job like that because, I mean, what, what was your background that enabled you to then become this, this curator of a museum? That's just really interesting. [00:10:14] Christopher John Garcia: Yeah. Funny, you should ask. I was a floor worker, I basically a docent and tour guide and someone who told you to stop touching objects at the old Computer Museum in Boston. And it was slowly falling apart and getting ready to close. It would eventually be bought out by the Museum of Science. And I grew up in the Bay Area and I was out in Boston at that museum, but they had an affiliate in California. So when I went home for Christmas, one year I decided to visit and they said, "Yeah, we've got this job opening." And I said, "I will apply for this job because Boston is cold." And I ended up getting the job. Literally I fell into it because no one else wanted the job. It was $12.50 an hour. And no one else wanted that in Silicon Valley at that point except for me. [00:11:05]And yeah, for 20 years that's what I did and what was great is that I was largely in charge of my own research interests. And that was fascinating. When you give the freedom to a curator to go and investigate what truly interests them and what they think is missing in the museum, what you gain is an incredible amount of insight and a lot of extra labor from the person who's actually doing the research. And it turned out that a lot of the stuff that I was doing was not only stuff that we didn't know previously, but we didn't see how it connected to the bigger world. And it was just a great job. 20 years. I got laid off in 2019, sadly. Hashtag #learntofundraise. But the real, the real fascinating thing about, you know, lucking into this gig, like I had my art history background, but really it was the fact that I knew how to give a really good tour, ended up getting me the job and, you know, I held onto it because it's just a thing that I really understood. And I think I really grew up with the museum itself. [00:12:13] Lindsey Dinneen: Yeah. Cool. How incredible. And I love that you were given that autonomy and freedom to explore the things that interested you and then get to just learn and grow. That's really cool. I think that's awesome. And so what was the most surprising thing maybe that you learned along that journey? [00:12:36]Christopher John Garcia: So it, it's both surprising-- and then when I think about it, not at all surprising-- I got to go and meet a artist by the name of Harold Cohen. . Initially I knew him, his sort of work from the sixties and very early seventies as an abstract painter, sort of along the lines of if Hawking was working completely... David Hockney, not Hawking. Hawking is the scientist. Hockney was working completely abstract. Very, very great color palette, amazing line, but he got very interested in artificial intelligence and developed a system called Aaron, the AARON Paint System, which he developed for almost 40 years. And I got to spend a couple of days with him. [00:13:28] And what was so surprising was he was talking about when he got into AI, it wasn't that-- the art community naturally sort of rejected the work because it wasn't clear who was the artist? Was it Harold Cohen or was it AARON, the Paint System that he developed. And it wasn't that 'cause that I understood, but it was that when you program a system to create art, it is naturally going to attempt to create art in the mode of its creator. Because the creator understands art in that way. So all AARON is a set of rules, but when you define a set of rules, you're going to define it with your own biases already installed. And it's fascinating to see that. [00:14:23] And I managed to also connect with another computer music pioneer, who also does visual arts with his programs, guy by the name of David Cope. And he recognized that. And what he did to avoid that was he made it possible to input external work by, in his case for music mini files, from, you know, Shostakovitch, Scott Joplin, Bach, and so he removed himself from the set of rules. The rules were defined by the input, and it was so interesting that I never thought in a million years that just setting a set of rules into a computer program would actually have that much effect. And then when I thought about it, it was like, "Yeah, of course that's how you would do it." And then I realized, wait, there's a way to do it where it's not actually your rules. It's someone else's. I just love that. [00:15:15] Lindsey Dinneen: Yes. Oh my goodness. That is so cool. I didn't even know that those technologies existed. So that's really fascinating to me that that's even a thing. How cool! [00:15:27] Christopher John Garcia: Well, what's incredible about that is right now, we are in an absolute Renaissance of AI art. And it's scary because it is very, very quickly being monetized. We saw some of the first works done almost. All the major AI art is being done in Europe right now. In particular there's our groups in Amsterdam, in a couple different places in France, England. And what's amazing is that now they're starting to go to auctions and fetching high sums, but this isn't where we're going to see AI art. We're going to see AI art in hotel lobbies, hotel rooms, any place where large-scale art creation is necessary. And right now, almost all that work is outsourced typically to China or small artists who are willing to work for relatively cheap for reproduction. In this case, it's highly possible that AI will be creating all the art we encounter in public corporate spaces, and that's a very big change and will have a very big impact on not only the art market, but the art market that no one thinks about: the commercial art market for commercial properties. [00:16:36] Lindsey Dinneen: Hm. So do you think that that's a good thing or is it not necessarily inherently good or bad? It just is different. [00:16:45]Christopher John Garcia: Yeah. That's... I go back and forth and it depends on how much I like computer programmers at the moment. I think it is a good thing in that we are developing systems that are able to get art out more quickly. And I think it's a bad thing of course, because it is going to put some artists out of work, but by having the work that can get out more quickly, it is going to drive the art market in general broader. And that's going to allow more artists to actually get work, to get commissions. Now, how, how that drives against one another, it's hard to tell. And new technologies and art are changing everything. And so it's a really, we're on kind of a knife's edge and we could fall either direction. We could either end up with a market that is an, a, an output that is AI driven. We have very little, as of yet, AI generated art that has made it into the museum space. And when you really look at the history of art, it's the stuff that gets into the museum space that ends up being the most significant. We're still seeing a massive influx of artists working today who are being displayed in museums. So I think the human is still going to be the more significant player in what art means and becomes, but I think AI is going to be a major part of what sells and that, you know, who knows which direction that'll go. [00:18:27] Lindsey Dinneen: Sure. Yeah. Cool. Yeah. It's going to be really interesting to follow that journey then and see what does end up happening and how does it twist and weave through different avenues and yeah, that's going to be really different. Like, I'm, I'm just wrapping my head around it right now, thinking about it, because again, I didn't know these technologies existed, so I'm like, huh? Okay. So, you know, you mentioned that you started taking that painting. What kind of artwork do you tend to lean towards with your own? Is it more abstract? Is it more realistic? What do you like? [00:19:05] Christopher John Garcia: Oh, it's a hundred percent abstract just because I don't have the skills to actually do representational. But one of the things on my Instagram is that I'll post an image where it's literally, I squoze three tubes of paint onto a piece of paper. I covered it with a little glue and I put another piece of paper on top of it and I scan it later, usually after it dries, but when it doesn't dry, my wife gets mad. And people will start to recognize that, "Oh, that's obviously a picture of X, Y, and Z." And one of the other things I do on the side is I publish zines and I had squished a whole bunch of acrylic paint that I just tossed onto a piece of paper and I peeled it off, but I had let it dry a little bit before I squished it. So it made this sort of feathery looking look and it looks exactly like the cryptid known as Moth Man. [00:19:56] And at that point I realized that something there's something in the sort of the chance operations space, that where even if you're not actively trying to create representational image, representational image will come forth. And so that picture of Moth Man, as I call it now, is a picture of Moth Man, even though I wasn't painting Moth Man. I wasn't painting anything. I was just putting paint on paper and that really, for me, raises some interesting questions as well. If I didn't mean to paint Moth Man, did I paint Moth Man? And the answer for me to that is, of course I'm painted Moth Man. What, are you crazy? Although I could get into the whole thing of that. Maybe Moth Man is some sort of entity that was working through me to make sure I painted a painting of him. But that might be a bridge too far, even for me. [00:20:45] Lindsey Dinneen: Yeah, sure. Of course. Well, that's cool. Oh my goodness. Okay. And so is that something that you anticipate you'll continue doing even sort of after things hopefully return to normal? [00:21:00]Christopher John Garcia: Yeah, I think what's really fascinating is that once I realized I loved the act of painting, I realized even more that I loved the material of painting. And I, I think painting can be a process that is laborious, that is tedious, that is mind numbing. It can also be one that is brief, that is freeing, that is inexact. And for me, it's definitely the latter, but the things that I love about it is just looking at how things react with one another. Like if I put oils and acrylics and inks on the same page and put a little Elmer's glue on top of it, and then put another page on top of it, the way it feels under the hand. Like that's a sensation that I can't think of repeating. And it's one that doesn't take long. It's just a couple of minutes even. And there's that sensation that's an irreplaceable thing. It's the aspect of the artists that I don't know if I ever really understood until I started painting myself, is that there are sensations to this that don't exist many other places. That the actual act of making marks on paper, on a canvas, whatever has a feeling. And when you find a feeling that is pleasurable or relieving or funky, you know, you're going to want to keep going back to that. So I don't see myself stopping painting. Probably painting a little less, but definitely it's something I'll keep doing that. And I have an Instagram to fill, so yes. [00:22:51] Lindsey Dinneen: Fair enough. Well, excellent. Well, I'm just curious. I know you've gotten to meet some pretty cool artists yourself-- and obviously your experiences as a curator and as a podcaster have probably lent themselves to some really memorable moments-- but I wonder if there's anything that kind of really stands out to you as an encounter with art that was like just something to remember to kind of file back there and return to every once in awhile. [00:23:17]Christopher John Garcia: Oh yeah. Bunch. I mean my first time I ever met an artist artist-- well, the first time I ever encountered an artist, this I should actually point out-- was Andy Warhol. And I didn't get to meet him, but I sat right behind him at Madison Square Garden at a WWF wrestling show. [00:23:38] Lindsey Dinneen: Wow. [00:23:39] Christopher John Garcia: And he was always in the front row and always taking pictures with his little camera. But little seven year old me, I couldn't talk to them because even I knew who he was and I was seven, but I got to know Robert Rauschenberg a little bit because he would visit our college and he was a fascinating human in many ways. But what I learned when I went to a big exhibit of his at SF MOMA was that his interests were so broad because he was so interesting and wanted to make the world as interested in things as he was. And it was like one of the best things. Again, this is something that people may not realize, every pop artist loves wrestling. I do not know why this is true, but everyone I've met-- Rauschenberg, Warhol, didn't meet him, but still-- Lichtenstein, Marisol, all of them love wrestling. And what Robert Rauschenberg said that one time when we were-- 'cause you'd stopped by class, then a lot of us would go out drinking afterwards-- he said "You know, you have to be careful how you are positioning your art, whether or not it is referencing the zeitgeists or referencing some niche topics that only two people in the gallery will get." And it's, you know, if you do a painting of whole Cogan, everyone will get it. It's a zeitgeist. But if you're talking about Pak Song and Dusty Rhodes, you're talking about niche. [00:25:09] And at that point, one, this was obviously made for me, even though he didn't know it. But two, he was really saying something that I bought into because you know, oh, this idea that there is a universality, but there's also a place for niche, which I love. But he was a really fun guy. I didn't see him after probably '97, but really had a good time with him. And I was very lucky. Another guy who's known more for music, but is actually a wonderful visual artist, is Mark Mothersbaugh of Divo. And I got to interview him, do an oral history with him. He has a fascinating eye for the world. And every day he writes one postcard size image he creates and he has thousands of them and they're beautiful. But then he was also doing this a very simple thing where he took classic, often Victorian, sometimes early 20th century photographs and uses Photoshop to place a mirror image of it. So it gives you that sort of awkward exactly symmetrical look. [00:26:14] But yeah, those have been two of my favorite. I've been lucky that I've gotten to meet a lot of really fun artists through the museum. You know, there were a lot of folks who didn't feel like early computer was being talked about enough and we're very happy to have anyone who would be interested in this stuff. But always, you know, artists like everyone, there are good ones who are wanting to talk to you all day long. And there are others who don't. You sort of learned which is which. [00:26:44]Lindsey Dinneen: For sure, for sure. Well, yeah. And, you know, just, it's so funny 'cause obviously everyone has different personalities and I would second that some artists are a little more approachable than others, but you know, that is okay. Well, I'm sure that some of our listeners are going to be super interested in your work, both as a podcaster and as a painter. And I'm wondering if there are ways for us to, of course, A) listen to your podcast and then B) check out some of your artwork. [00:27:14] Christopher John Garcia: Oh, there absolutely are. I have my podcast on the internet, just look for "Three-Minute Modernist" and you will find it all over the place. And then you can find my artwork and pictures of my kids, also things I cook, on Instagram at Johnny Eponymous, J O H N N Y E P O N Y MOU S. I'm also the same thing on Twitter, the same thing on Facebook, the same thing on pretty much everything. Since Friendster, I've been Johnny Eponymous. But yeah, and I'm, yeah, I'm all over the place. It's hard to miss me. [00:27:48] Lindsey Dinneen: Perfect. Awesome. Well, first of all, thank you just so much again for being here and sharing your stories. And I'm just so fascinated learning about how technology and art intersect, and that's just so cool that you shared that very unique perspective. So I definitely appreciate that. I do have three questions that I always like to ask my guests, if you're okay with that. [00:28:10]Christopher John Garcia: Whew... [00:28:10]Lindsey Dinneen: I know. [00:28:11] Christopher John Garcia: I'm ready. [00:28:12] Lindsey Dinneen: It's pressure. [00:28:12] Christopher John Garcia: I'm ready. [00:28:13] Lindsey Dinneen: Okay. First of all, how do you personally define art or what is art to you? [00:28:20]Christopher John Garcia: Art is that thing you do that is mostly useless, but ultimately important. [00:28:27]Lindsey Dinneen: Okay. Care to elaborate, or are we just going to leave that be? [00:28:32]Christopher John Garcia: I'll elaborate slightly. It is the shape of the tool, not the use of the tool, I think is the way I, I wrote it in a paper once when I was trying to be smart. It's really about something that brings you an emotional experience of some sort that isn't just because of what it does, but what it is. And so, you know, we have paintings around the house 'cause my wife's mother's a actual painter who paints actual paintings. And every time I see one of them, it makes me feel hungry and it's because there's all sorts of food in it. But, you know, I consider that to be art because it draws an emotion out of me. [00:29:15] Lindsey Dinneen: Sure, sure. Perfect. Okay. [00:29:18] Christopher John Garcia: It's also a good painting of food. [00:29:20] Lindsey Dinneen: Oh, there you go. Perfect. Oh yeah. Well, that's a, that's a very unique answer and I like it. Okay. So, secondly, what do you think is the most important role of an artist? [00:29:32]Christopher John Garcia: To make art. I mean, really, that's what it comes down to, I think. Wanting an artist to be a philosopher, a spokesman, any of that? Really not as important as the fact that they just create the work. [00:29:49]Lindsey Dinneen: Sure. And then finally, I'll define my terms a little bit in this last question, but do you think that art should be inclusive or exclusive? And by inclusive, I'm referring to an artist who puts their work out there and shares a little bit of context behind that, whether it's program notes or the inspiration or a title. Just something to give the viewer an idea of what went into the creation. Versus exclusive referring to an artist who does put their work out there, but doesn't provide the context and therefore leaves it entirely up to the viewer to interpret it at will. [00:30:25]Christopher John Garcia: I'm going to throw you a curve ball and say there is no such thing as an inclusive artist. [00:30:31] Lindsey Dinneen: Okay. Ooh. Tell me more. [00:30:33]Christopher John Garcia: Everything an artist does is meant to be interpreted, is meant to be placed into a context. So that would be now exclusive. Nevermind. But yeah, they, every purpose choice you make is giving you more of a clue. If an artist says, "This is not titled," it doesn't mean he is just-- I don't care what you call it-- it's, he's making a choice. He doesn't want to give you the direction, but there is a direction and, you know, I've, I always think of-- I think it was Barnett Newman who once said I paint a zip. I put a line down a canvas. To me, that's a line. To someone else that could be a streetlight. And we're both right. [00:31:25]Lindsey Dinneen: Yeah. [00:31:26] Christopher John Garcia: And I think that, you know, I think everything an artist does has the reason that it's done to bring about some thought, even if that thing that they do isn't giving you any background, but is giving you the lack of background. That seems strange, but in my brain it works. [00:31:48]Lindsey Dinneen: Well, I really, that is the most unique answer I've received for that question. So I like that. That is a really interesting point. So thank you for sharing that perspective because I really that's going to make me think about that even more. So thank you for that. [00:32:05]Christopher John Garcia: I do what I can. [00:32:06] Lindsey Dinneen: I know. I appreciate it. Well, thank you just so very much for being here today, Chris, I really appreciate your time and you sharing your background and what you're up to. And I'm so excited about your podcast. And I encourage all of our listeners to also check out Chris's podcast and subscribe and all that good stuff, because obviously he brings a cool, unique perspective and it's three minutes. So, like the perfect way to just start your day. So thank you again, Chris. And I just want to commend you for everything that you're doing and sharing art with the world. I really think that that's important and kudos to you. [00:32:49]Christopher John Garcia: Well, thank you much. It's been so much fun. [00:32:51] Lindsey Dinneen: Good. Yeah. Well, and thank you to everyone who's listened to this episode and if you're feeling as inspired as I am right now, I would love if you would share this with a friend or two, and we will catch you next time. [00:33:04] If you have a story to share with us, we would love that so much. And I hope your day has been Artfully Told.
Usually at this time of the week, at this time of the year, we would be kicking off Gallifrey One with a live show featuring a number of guests attending the convention that year. So this year, as part of our Tales of Gallifrey One series, we present a "greatest hits" selection from our various live shows of years past. Here is Peter Davison (2016), Philip Hinchcliffe (2013), Terrance Dicks (2014), Pete McTighe, Vinay Patel, and Joy Wilkinson (2020), Julian Glover (2016), Patricia Quinn (2016), and Chip Sudderth's Two-Minute Time Lord presentation from 2015. Enjoy!
Presenting our live show from Gallifrey One 2020! Listen as we interview an astounding number of guests, including Peter Davison, Michael E Briant, Margot Hayhoe, Gary Russell, Tilly Steele, Mark Dexter, Matt Rohman, Sallie Aprahamian, Pete McTighe, Vinay Patel, and Joy Wilkinson, with the return of Chip Sudderth as the Two-Minute Time Lord! Links: Support Radio Free Skaro on Patreon! Radio Free Skaro Gallifrey One 2020 live show: These Go To Eleven! Peter Davison Margot Hayhoe Michael E Briant Gary Russell Mark Dexter Matt Rohman Tilly Steele Vinay Patel Pete McTighe Joy Wilkinson Sallie Aprahamian Two-minute Time Lord
This week, I'm joined by Chip Sudderth (http://www.themomentpod.com/guests/chip-sudderth), to discuss Matt Smith’s first appearance in 2010’s The End of Time, Part 2. We discuss the wonder of change, the delightful exuberance of Matt Smith’s Doctor, and how we feel when the show moves on from the era we loved most. You can follow Chip on Twitter at @2minutetimelord (http://twitter.com/2minutetimelord). Special Guest: Chip Sudderth.
Happy Thanksgiving (in Canada)! This week, we have new from New York Comic Con, as one Peter Capaldi charmed the good folk of the Big Apple for one final time as Doctor Who, plus we have news of cinematic screenings of “Twice Upon A Time”, explosive details about Danny Hargreaves’ future and the new season of Doctor Who, and and AND Chip, our friend from This Week in Time Travel and Two-Minute Time Lord, joins us for a look at the start of the Monk Trilogy (such as it was) and all the japery and indeed Papery in…”Extremis!” Links: – Capaldi at New York Comic Con – Twice Upon A Time to get US cinema screenings – The Companions, illustrated by Russell T Davies – Danny Hargreaves kept on by the new production team – Trevor Martin died Second Chances: – Chip Sudderth – Extremis
Chip, of the currently on hiatus Two-Minute Time Lord, current Whovian gadabout, and man about town rejoins Two of the Three Who Rule (Chris is still punching his liver with an assortment of British liquids) for a brief sojourn through a paltry news list this week! Dribbles of info about Class (which premieres October 22 in various parts of the Commonwealth)...and not much else. But wait! Chris travels from the past to the present to comment on the past (confused? We are) as RFS is plagued by "The Curse...of Fenric"! Links: – Class Ep 1 and 2 available on BBC Three at 10am on October 22 – Class: everything you need to know about the Doctor Who spin-off – Doctor Who marathon on Space on October 22 leading up to Class premiere – “The Power of the Daleks” in theatres in US on November 14 – 10th anniversary Torchwood story from Big Finish – Doctor Who “Mr. Men” books coming Spring 2017 With: – Chip from Two-Minute Time Lord
With New York Comic-Con upon us, the Doctor Who news is (at last) coming fast and furious with two(!) trailers for Class out in the wild and a panel featuring Steven Moffat, Peter Capaldi, Matt Lucas, Brian Minchin and new companion Pearl Mackie at the con teasing what's in store for the Christmas special and beyond! And with Chris off in the UK foraging for beer and scotch eggs, it was up to friend of the show Chip Sudderth to ably assume the third chair to cogitate upon matters Who with the Two Who Rule. We also have a report from Kim and Sage of Head Over Feels direct from NYCC! It's a cornucopia of news on this, the most Canadian of Thanksgivings. Links: – Doctor Who returns in “The Return of Doctor Mysterio” – Full NYCC Doctor Who on BBC America Panel – Classic series Doctor Who writer to write for Series 10 – Doctor Who Facebook Live chat on Space – Full NYCC Class panel – New Class trailer #1 – New Class trailer #2 – Interview with new Doctor Who script editor Nick Lambon – The Guardian interview with Pearl Mackie – Long Island Doctor Who updates – Doctor Who: Twelve Doctors of Christmas book, including free download – Digital version of Doctor Who pinball game released – Doctor Who wins Welsh BAFTA for Special and Visual Effects – Peter Capaldi nominated for Scottish BAFTA With: – Kim and Sage from Head Over Feels – Chip from Two-Minute Time Lord
10 years! That’s a whole lot of talking by three jaunty Canadians about a British television program of little repute by the name of Professor Whom. But after a smattering of news, the Three Who Rule move quickly on to an extended series of interviews with the fine people with whom we’ve shared our podcasting adventures with, including: Ken Deep of Podshock fame, Deborah Stanish, Katrina Griffiths and Erika Ensign of Verity!, Chip Sudderth of the Two Minute Time Lord, and Simon Harries, John Williams and Neil Perryman of Tachyon TV! Phew! Here’s to ten more years of meandering drivel from Canadian interlopers who have no right to talk of Britain’s televisual crown jewel! Check out the show notes at http://www.radiofreeskaro.com
It's the return of the Miniscope! The segment wherein the Three Who Rule discuss the contributions of notable creator folk throughout the history of Doctor Who, and to welcome back this popular segment, we talk about showrunner-designate Chris Chibnall's prior writing efforts in Doctor Who. Also, our friend Chip from the Two-Minute Time Lord drops by for the news, which is filled with talk about issue 500 of the venerable Doctor Who Magazine, including an excellent interview with current showrunner Steven Moffat. Next week: the return of Fluid Links! Check out the show notes at http://www.radiofreeskaro.com
In this episode Shana and Daniel are joined by Mikayla from The Web of Queer to discuss The Pandorica Opens/The Big Bang. It becomes a bit of a discussion of the Matt Smith era in general, and there's even a bonus rant about the Zygon two-parter at the end. Main Topic: The Pandorica Opens/The Big Bang. With special guest Mikayla of The Web of Queer. Anniversary. Not the Web Planet. Mikayla at Gally 2016. The Asexuality of the Doctor? Asexual and Nonsexual. Quieted voices. Thanking Mikayla. Loops? Why this two-parter? Highs and Lows. Not going to fight the whole time. More of this River. Not a love triangle. Kissing Rory now. Hey, heteronormativity! River as femme fatale? Is River even canonically queer? Immature and superficial Sexy Italians. Rebooting the Universe and Relationships. Rory and the Box. Not okay with Rory's death. Rory has "the girl role." Nice guy Rory. Amelia's agency. Loopy Pandorica. Myths and legends and fairy tales. Erasure. Consistency? The Reversal of the Pandorica. Consequences. Mikayla and Moffat. Are we too rough on the Moffat years? It got so much worse. The Zygon rant. US gun culture. Sandifer and oversignification. Wrapping Up. Next week: Planet of Fire. Mikayla on Two Minute Time Lord. Find The Web of Queer here, and find Mikayla on Twitter here. Find Our Stuff! Find us on iTunes! Or Facebook! We love email (oispacemanpodcast@gmail.com)! And all our episodes are on oispaceman.libsyn.com. You can also find a text blog associated with this podcast at oispacemanblog.wordpress.com. Our theme song is "Doctor Who Theme on Minimoog" by James Bragg. Find his Youtube channel at youtube.com/hyperdust7 and his band page at phoenix-flare.com.
Slightly hoarse and bedraggled, Will and John recap some of the highlights from GallifreyOne, including meeting Sir John Hurt and panels with Deborah Stanish, Chip from Two Minute Time Lord, and Sage and Kim from Head Over Feels. Stay tuned for more from #gally1
Doctor Who Season 9, Episode 10 - Jason is joined by Chip Sudderth of the Two-Minute Time Lord podcast to discuss the dramatic (some might say traumatic) events of the latest episode of “Doctor Who.” Ashildr, Riggsy, hidden aliens, London urban fantasy, and a surprising ending… CHIP. CHIP. WHAT. JUST. HAPPENED. Host Jason Snell with Chip Sudderth.
Doctor Who Season 9, Episode 10 - Jason is joined by Chip Sudderth of the Two-Minute Time Lord podcast to discuss the dramatic (some might say traumatic) events of the latest episode of “Doctor Who.” Ashildr, Riggsy, hidden aliens, London urban fantasy, and a surprising ending… CHIP. CHIP. WHAT. JUST. HAPPENED. Host Jason Snell with Chip Sudderth.
Jason is joined by Chip Sudderth of the Two-Minute Time Lord podcast to discuss the dramatic (some might say traumatic) events of the latest episode of “Doctor Who.” Ashildr, Riggsy, hidden aliens, London urban fantasy, and a surprising ending… CHIP. CHIP. WHAT. JUST. HAPPENED. Host Jason Snell with Chip Sudderth.
Fighting off con crud, sleeplessness and the ever-present post Gallifrey One blues, the Three Who Rule were joined by fourth Beatle Chip of Two Minute Time Lord fame for the news, and by author and televisual scholar John Williams for a commentary of "Deep Breath", the first of our Series 8 commentaries that will hopefully enthrall and entertain you over the coming weeks! Truly an occasion for many numerals and capital letters in an episode write up. Check out the show notes at http://www.radiofreeskaro.com
It's Gally time! The Three Who Rule graced the main stage at Gallifrey One in Los Angeles for the fourth time in as many years with special guests Jamie Mathieson (writer of "Flatline" and "Mummy on the Orient Express"), Phil Ford (writer of "Into the Dalek", as well as "The Waters of Mars", and acres of Torchwood and Sarah Jane Adventures episodes), special effects wizard Danny Hargreaves, Sylvester McCoy era script editor Andrew Cartmel, and Doctor Who art director (and Sherlock production designer) Arwel Wyn Jones. All this and a moving tribute to the new series from Chip, the Two Minute Time Lord! Enjoy! Check out the show notes at http://www.radiofreeskaro.com
"Evolution" - Chip Sudderth, a host of the Audio Guide to Babylon 5 and host of the Two Minute Time Lord, joins Scott to talk about Evolution (TNG S3E1). Wesley is front and center in this episode and that isn’t as bad as you might think. Hungry, hungry nanobots, sabermetrics, and the proper collars for Star Fleet uniforms are discussed. You’ll also find out what costume Scott would dress up in if he had to cosplay at a Star Trek convention. Host Scott McNulty with Chip Sudderth.
"Inheritance" - Shannon Sudderth, a host of the Audio Guide to Babylon 5 and frequent Two Minute Time Lord guest, joins Scott to talk about Inheritance (TNG S7E10). Topics include phasering to the candy center of a planet, the future of women in technology, and the realization that even androids can be embarrassed by their mom. Host Scott McNulty with Shannon Sudderth.
For the first time ever (we defy you to prove us wrong, RFS pedants, DEFY YOU) Radio Free Skaro is coming out on November 23rd, better known this year as the 51st anniversary of Doctor Who, our favorite program. And while there's no new Who to discuss until Christmas, we have assembled a crack team of nerds in the form of Gallifrey One impresario Shaun Lyon, podcast gadfly Felicity Brown and Chip Sudderth, the Two Minute Time Lord to share their thoughts on Series Eight. What are you waiting for? Get listenin'! And Happy Doctor Who Day! Check out the show notes at http://www.radiofreeskaro.com
Fancy a Doctor Who historical? Even those that don't exist anymore (for now)? The Three Who Rule certainly did, and so writer John Lucarotti, the scribe behind “Marco Polo,” “The Aztecs,” and “The Massacre (of St. Bartholomew’s Eve)" was the focus of this week’s Miniscope. Warren decided to go down a more textual path, and read the Target novelization of Marco Polo, while Steven and Chris braved the wild world of fan recons. How does Mr. Lucarotti fare under the glare of 2014’s wildly different pacing and tastes? Only one way to find out! But before that, our old friend Chip from Two-Minute Time Lord drops by to visit and talk about the news of the week, such as it is. Enjoy! Check out the show notes at http://www.radiofreeskaro.com
With just two days to go before the largest Doctor Who Convention kicks off in Los Angeles, Stephen and Michele are joined by Chip Sudderth, also known as The Two Minute Time Lord to preview...
From its origins on a humble Skype connection in 2006 to the quasi-shabby status it endures today, Radio Free Skaro has tried to entertain, inform and educate its listeners about the wonderful world of Doctor Who. And in this, its 400th episode, it may have finally succeeded. Joining us for a retrospective roundtable on the Matt Smith era were Chris and Laura Mead of the Oodcast, Luke Harrison of TMDWP, Kyle Anderson of the Doctor Who: The Writer’s Room (and Nerdist fame) and Chip, the Two Minute Time Lord. What did these luminaries, and to a much lesser extent, Steven, Warren, and Chris think of Matt Smith’s run as the Doctor? You’ll just have to listen to find out. You’ll also have to endure some blather about stats beforehand. Vegetables before you get your dessert! Check out the show notes at http://www.radiofreeskaro.com
It's Series 4 and the season of my favorite new series companion, Donna Noble. Joining me this week is podcast superstar, Chip Suddereth, the Two Minute Time Lord! Listen along as we discuss Tennant, Tate, and even a certain Mr. Capaldi. Feedback at: thequestisthequest@yahoo.com twominutetimelord.com
RFS Live from Gallifrey One in Los Angeles! Yes, it's time once again for Radio Free Skaro's annual live show at Gallifrey One, the biggest and best Doctor Who convention to grace the shores of Los Angeles and the world entire. Steven, Warren and Chris were delighted and honoured to play host to Sylvester McCoy, Philip Hinchcliffe, Stephen Thorne, Dan Starkey, Neve McIntosh, and Richard Hope. Chip, the Two Minute Time Lord, both acted as audio engineer and delivered a wonderful sermon on the importance and sheer wonder of being a fan in a community of diverse but like-minded friends. Can we just say it one more time? PHILIP HINCHCLIFFE. Thanks to one and all who came to the show in person, and we're delighted to offer this year's live show to our listeners who couldn't make it to L.A.
A shocking amount of news made its way from the wilds of the Internet to the fevered brains and out of the fetid mouths of the Three Who Rule this week, including the infamous "ToyFairGate," where canny spies noted BBC posters announcing….somewhat sparse plans for the anniversary year of Doctor Who. The din of fan outrage was such that it almost drowned out announcements of new action figures, soundtracks, special edition DVDs and other delicious morsels. But controversy and action figure portfolios aside, this week also marks an interview with Paul Scoones, Doctor Who historian and author of "The Comic Strip Companion: 1964-1979" which chronicles decades of Doctor Who comic strips. Scoones is also well known for his deep production knowledge, expressed through the medium of subtitles on Doctor WHo DVDs. Steven spent the better part of an hour delving deep into Scoones work with him, and now we bring that interview to you. And remember, in less than three weeks Radio Free Skaro will open Gallifrey One with our live show, "The Ambassadors of Death!" With a guest lineup of Sylvester McCoy, Philip Hinchcliffe, Bernard Horsfall, Neve McIntosh, Richard Hope and Dan Starkey, it's sure to be ninety minutes of fun, facts and…a return guest appearance from Chip, the Two Minute TIme Lord! Check out the show notes at http://www.radiofreeskaro.com
I suspect Chip gave a listen to the “End of Time” episode and felt moved to action enough come on the podcast and lay down some very strong pro-RTD statements. […]
I suspect Chip gave a listen to the “End of Time” episode and felt moved to action enough come on the podcast and lay down some very strong pro-RTD statements. […]
Chicago TARDIS is the setting for this week's Radio Free Skaro as many hundreds of Doctor Who fans materialized in the Windy City for the Midwest's most popular Doctor Who convention. Steven represented the Three Who Rule at the con, and is joined in this episode by Chip from the Two-Minute Time Lord and Erik from the Doctor Who Book Club Podcast to discuss the convention, as well as the plethora of news that occurred in the world of Doctor Who over the past week - including stats! And to top it all off, Chip and Steven sit down with the TARDIS team of the late 1980s - Sylvester McCoy and Sophie Aldred. Stay tuned to RFS in the coming weeks for even more interviews from Chicago TARDIS! Check out the show notes at http://www.radiofreeskaro.com
The Angels Take Manhattan….and, to various degrees, the hearts of Warren, Steven, and Chip the Two Minute Time Lord, who sat in Chris's stead to review the mid-season finale and the departure of Matt Smith's near and dear companions, the Ponds. Weeping Statues of Liberty, questions of style vs. substance and what comes next for the series all reared their silent, menacing stone visages before coming to the really terrifying stuff…stats. Add a rant about thigh-less maxi-busts, high praise for Chicks Unravel Time, Chicago TARDIS, and Gel Guard action dolls and you've got yourselves three nerds talking about Doctor Who for an hour and change! And now another long wait until new Doctor Who stories grace our screens again... Check out the show notes at http://www.radiofreeskaro.com
With Steven quite literally in a Cabin In The Woods, cut off from much of humanity and completely ignorant of "Dinosaurs on a Spaceship," it was up to Warren, Chris and special guest star Chip, the Two-Minute Time Lord, to hash out their feelings about thunder lizards, Egyptian queens and guest stars from the Potterverse. But it wasn't all sunshine and rainbows and puppy dogs and fluffy clouds and unicorns and... wait, where were we again? Oh yeah, Warren was forced to confront that which he hated most, the dreaded stats, and we throw in some discussion about the Welsh BAFTAS, games, Cafe Press and the Hugo Awards and more. Put it all together and you've got yourself an audio program on the internet about a niche topic! Check out the show notes at http://www.radiofreeskaro.com
Gallifrey Live Show! For only the second time (and the first in the main ballroom), the Three Who Rule entertained the huddled Earth masses in attendance at the Gallifrey One convention on Los Angeles with ribaldry, shenanigans and interviews with Who luminaries such as Camille Coduri, Simon Fisher-Becker, Dalek operator Barnaby Edwards, director Toby Haynes and ingenue Gary Russell, who we predict will go onto great things. Also, Chip gives a sterling and much lauded onstage presentation of his Two-Minute Time Lord podcast that is sure to thrill and inspire. So with no further ado, please do enjoy our second live show and second of our podcasts from Gallifrey, and remember: DESTROY ALL PODCASTORS. Check out the show notes at http://www.radiofreeskaro.com
Doctor Who: Podshock - Episode 185 Running time: 0:39:38 Our Half-Time Gallifrey 21 show reporting from Gallifrey Blackjack 21 in Los Angeles, CA. We bring you up to date on what the convention is like half way through it. Ken had interviewed Frazer Hines and Deborah Watling on stage, all the podcasters came together for a summit and more. Joining us on this show is also 'That Chip Guy' from the Two Minute Time Lord and DWO The Whocast, and Dan Roth of DWNY. Hosted by Louis Trapani, James Naughton, and Ken Deep. Brought to you by the Gallifreyan Embassy and is a production of Art Trap Productions. This podcast is made possible in part by Podshock Supporting Subscribers and from donations from listeners like you. Do you want the Enhanced Podcast AAC file format? Get our Enhanced Podcast version of this episode using our feed at http://www.gallifreyanembassy.org/podshock/podshock.xml.
Doctor Who: Podshock - Episode 185 Running time: 0:39:38 Our Half-Time Gallifrey 21 show reporting from Gallifrey Blackjack 21 in Los Angeles, CA. We bring you up to date on what the convention is like half way through it. Ken had interviewed Frazer Hines and Deborah Watling on stage, all the podcasters came together for a summit and more. Joining us on this show is also 'That Chip Guy' from the Two Minute Time Lord and DWO The Whocast, and Dan Roth of DWNY. Hosted by Louis Trapani, James Naughton, and Ken Deep. Brought to you by the Gallifreyan Embassy and is a production of Art Trap Productions. This podcast is made possible in part by Podshock Supporting Subscribers and from donations from listeners like you. Do you need the MP3 file format? Get our MP3 version of this episode using our MP3 dedicated feed at http://www.gallifreyanembassy.org/podshock/podshockmp3.xml.
This week, the TVZ team is joined by special guest Ben Rollman to discuss the BBC's highly successful Torchwood mini-series, "Children of Earth." Also, the news of the week, a report on the V pilot from Comicon and a commentary from Chip of the excellent Two-Minute Time Lord podcast.