Art and Labor

Hello and welcome to Art and Labor TV!! Comrade of the show Monica Rocha has engaged our brains on even more media resources our puny brains cannot handle alone! We FUCK UP and USE THE RESOURCES ANYWAY and have SO MUCH FUN! We talk DIY, it’s very meta cause we’re also inside the concept of … Continue reading "220 – TV Show (free feed audio only)"

Something is happening, we’re getting into the economics of conventions, will you join us? Will you Rambo for the library? I’m listening to Coil while I finish “Art and the Occult” :)))) What is we made a new free breakfast program?

Things we talked about : Ridgewood/Bushwick border is getting a Burlington, what is Burlington?St Marks is Disney Universities are company townsLet's dissolve ColumbiaLet's dissolve all the universitiesWas Luigi the real shooterMayors raceLet's leave the democratsDSA should drop the AThe ZiziansFocusing on our healthWe are taking over Middle VillageBryan Lehrer come on the show -Marshall’s good … Continue reading "218 – Mall Museum"

We’re join by the multimedia artist Monica Rocha aka Momo the clown aka Myrtle Widecock aka Sappho’s Trap House!! We discuss the video means of production, Britney Spears and our influences, Rambo Hochul, Paper Tiger Television and other a/v art comrades, and make a plea for David Cross to be our landlord. PLUS we review … Continue reading "217 – Clown Drag w/ Monica Rocha"

This is the Liz Pelly interview for the real heads!! We have a (perhaps brutally) honest discussion about the state of DIY and our extractive relationship with big tech. How do we untangle? Since Silent Barn times we’ve been researching, organizing, and building alternatives. We outline some of them in a fruitful discussion of Liz’s … Continue reading "216 – Music Ecology vs the Mood Machine w/ Liz Pelly LIVE"

Can you believe it? The gang gets annoyed with another Ridgewood restaurant. Maybe it’ll make you feel at peace that the #1 podcast for trans guy divorcees isn’t really freaking out about the destruction of the federal government. It is the men behind the curtains we’re worried about. How to kill tech bros in a … Continue reading "215 – Eating with Tech Money"

The gang’s all here. Nas is back after a brief health holiday and OK is back from Rhode Island where he was an artist resident at the Wedding Cake House. Fresh from the arms of feminist collective care, we brainstorm how to build more refuges, how to increase access to art, and generate more collective … Continue reading "214 – Collective Visions"

In our new series, Kenneth interviews New York violinist and composer Concetta Abbate. They discuss coming up in a family of working musicians, her early days of subway busking, working in New York City, and becoming a death doula as a result of the COVID-19 pandemic. If you enjoy this type of carefully produced content … Continue reading "Interview with Concetta Abbate"

Kenneth and Marshall share one mic and OK gets his own. Big tech guys are tailoring online discourse for right wing climate change deniers. So instead of any leadership discussing decades of ecocide we’re stuck on woke homeless people. We think about Octavia Butler and Mike Davis and how it isn’t enough to know and … Continue reading "213 – This Country is Unfit for Human Life"

Marshall, Kenneth, and OK in what’s maybe the most neurotic host configuration yet buzz little poems in your ears about the trains, the violence, the holigays, and prob other stuff?? I wish I could quit you, talking into microphones. Perhaps the show could improve with money, but there’s no money. I took the autism test, … Continue reading "212 – The First Spectrum President"

Kenneth joins us in our furry freako catbird seats to discuss Luigi’s big media moment. Could this valedicktorian fag be a fall guy? Manifesto or just a statement? Ghost gun or real gun? Why McDonald’s? Why thank the feds? Feels like a big thermometer check, how razzed up can we get, how much speech can … Continue reading "211 – Sigh Up"

We of course have takes about the CEO shooter with a beautiful smile, but it’s paywalled

This episode we build out the theory that film is dead, and everything is now a collage/humiliation ritual. Comic book characters are fun little guys we should all get to play with. The People’s Joker does not exist in a vacuum, there must be more. Todd is too much of a loser to imagine a … Continue reading "210 – Let a Thousand Jokers Bloom"

There’s a new Venom movie and you know what that means, Kevin is back!!! Apologies to all the #symbrock heads, we watched it after recording this

The trans online commentariat went nuts over comrade of the pod Charlie Markbreiter’s new piece in The Nation “The Harris Campaign Has Offered Trans People Almost Nothing” so Nas and OK decided to read it aloud for you dear listener! Fresh tranny intelligentsia takes to do politics with! Write these down: single payer healthcare is … Continue reading "208 – The Trans Bourgeoisie"

Lookn, we’re really behind. Please enjoy this crazy sound collage featuring a futch study of the Korn show in New Jesery, a search for the Carousel Killer at a trash bridge punk show, and an interview with THE Crackhead Barney. For more pics of these beautiful nights check out this recent SCENE and HIR’D post. … Continue reading "DISPATCH – Carousel Killer Investigation Log"

Longtime listeners will know how tinfoil hat we were about tech before the mossad pager terrorist attack, but now we’re straight up ready to go terrestrial radio, so keep an eye out for that equipment gofundme! Does the new Trump shooter speak for all liberal boomers? Conner O’Malley is a visionary. We’re divesting from flagship … Continue reading "207 – Radical Centrists"

Hey fam it’s the 9/11 episode. Be fucked up or sad about it, whatever the tone barometer’s at this year. For me? Personally? It’s death to the west all day. Xi, do you hear me zaddy? Put me in shifu. We watched that republican primary ass debate for some reason. Trumpism is dead, is this … Continue reading "206 – The Carousel Killer"

Nas is back from Austria! OK is back from Toronto and the WRATH autonomous zone! And these freaks are WORN OUT, but ready to gab up a storm about democrats, demon rats, democracy, the cops, and strategies. It’s really sick and gross to watch public institutions and services collapse. It’s disgusting to watch the pigs … Continue reading "205 – Vienna Report Back"

We’re joined by former West Coast farm kid and current UMAW member Kenneth of Slashed Tires fame!!! We should have put one of their songs as the ending but instead we got obsessed with Tommy Tone’s Brian Wilson mix. We have bad brains! We talk about trans celebs having geopolitical takes, stop & shop, and … Continue reading "204 – Millennial Sandwich Shop"

Welcome to the frontline defense of the Women First movement. Nas, Marshall, and OK have gone third wave terf as brat summer sets into, and you heard this here first, KAMALAUTUMN. Get those

Taylor Lorenz please retweet this!! DADDY NEED CLOUTY!! Welcome to vroom vroom room with OK and Nas. The two baddest tboys in podcasting are OFF LEASH on field recorder spitting takes on Biden covid, Trump bullet, and the losers who sit and post all day (NOT ME THO, I’M DIFFERENT.) If you crave HOTTER takes … Continue reading "202 – I HOPE THEY BOTH DIE 2024"

Nas is on the dating apps, Marshall gets drafted into the trash pickers union, and OK gets called a dirty hippie

OK is global homo now, and with that cums the vicious self critique. We’re synthesizing new levels of half Jewish half Catholic guilt, and it still isn’t kinky enough for the fascist Eurofags. Berghain zionists hate our freedom. Nas saw the Manhattan mainstream media playground firsthand at the Tribeca Film Fest, where they mistook Pisspiggranddad … Continue reading "199 – Homo Homogenous"

This was gonna be paywalled, but it’s way too main episode vibe so no reason to assign it a gender. BIG ep for the New York nationalists out there. Trump’s guilty verdict is the latest notch in his New Yorker cultural cache, but in this episode we talk about his relationship to theater, how it … Continue reading "198 – Bagel Snackcast w/ Linda Felcher"

The crew discusses the inevitable Jewish civil war between the surge of nuclear families (zionism) and cringe polycules (New York cultural secularism.) I think we also advocated for a Hot Hot Heat revial, but that might have been the paywalled episode, you can find that here. Wow! Every day is an adventure with Art and … Continue reading "197 – Assassination & Assimilation"

Precarity and propaganda. Becoming unhuman. The trans internet illuminati emerges in flesh. Nepo baby class traitors. Escape, find alternative ways to live. The media is a vicious tool designed to hurt us, use us to hurt them. Do your own research. Bridgework makes the Ridgework. If you like us, please consider spreading the good word! … Continue reading "196 – Layers of Unreality"

The new era of Art and Labor cuntinues to shape up with Marshall and OK grooming holocaust, memory, and internet studies scholar Nas to become a new Nakama of the pod-ship. We ask them about so-called progressive Jewish institutions failing to recognize genocide or even twisting “never again” as a disgusting attempt to justify the … Continue reading "195 – Institutions? More like Instant Two Shits!! w/ Nas"

Iconic bald guys Marshall and OK are back, and this week they rant poetic about physical media. Who is speaking with authority? Is it us? Is it Tavi Gevinson? Is it the New York Times? Is it whoever is telling the New York Times to censor certain words and whoever is telling Tavi to pay … Continue reading "194 – Physical Media"

Art and Labor 2 is back! We take a second to decompress and to welcome new cohost Marshall, who's talking to us today about United Musicians and Allied Workers. The group recently had campaigns bringing attention to SXSW underpaying artists and taking money from the Department of Defense. We talk about building alternative spaces and … Continue reading "193 – Suck by Suck West"

(sorry for bad mic this ep) OK and Sarah warm up the engine a little with a conversation leading from, and leading to, the ethnic cleansing going on in Gaza as wespeak. What is to be done? We weigh the options- mostly, do what youcan, some of which is going to involve the heavy and … Continue reading "192 – Not in Our Name"

Honored to be graced by Jackie Ess, co-founder of the Bay Area Trans Writers Workshop and the author of the groundbreaking, cuck character study/novel of our time, Darryl. We discuss “radical trans poetics,” the historical importance of local freaks, and make an open call for more experimental jazz fusion. Don’t take our wives, please! If … Continue reading "191 – Don’t Dream It, Be It w/ Jackie Ess"

OK and Sarah are joined by two of our absolute favorite cartoonists Alex Degen and Alec Robbins to discuss One Piece both as a comic

OK’s Disclaimer Gallery comrade Jin is in town from Hawaii and updates us on the situation in Maui, their community care work, and the Be Easy Stay Safe zine made for and by sex workers. Please follow and support Jin’s work on their Instagram. Content warning: we discuss experiences of transphobic and racist discrimination, as … Continue reading "189 – Art Work and Sex Work w/ Jin"

OK Fox and Eric Kostiuk Willams  return with a recap of festival season. We have criticisms and praises for Flamecon in NYC, Queer Trans Zine Fest in Providence, and Small Press Expo in Bethesda. We also discuss All Dolled Up, an event Eric did the poster for and OK attended in an act of rebellion against attempts … Continue reading "188 – Fagcon w/ Eric Kostiuk Willams"

Know us by our sacred form; as Clotho, Lachesis, Atropos; yuanshi tianzun, lingbao tianzun, daode tianzun; final fantasy 10, final fantasy 10-2, final fantasy 10-3 (on ao3, lulu is in a reeducation camp, yuna is given more guns)— and yes, at times in the form of OK, Lucia, and Sarah on Art and Labor: Audio … Continue reading "187 – Anon Anon Meeting"

One of us saw Barbenheimer and one of us didn't. Wouldn't you know it, that doesn't stop the take machine from churning here on the new and improved ART AND LABOR 2. That's right! We have emerged from our chrysalis to influence hearts and minds on a plane of evolution that was higher than before. … Continue reading "186 – ART AND LABOR 2"

Remember back in the day when we used to wax philosophical about the meaning and role of art? Oh you don't, because this is the first episode you've ever listened to? Well buckle up, cuz Lucia printed a new edition of their screed, and they're here to inculcate the youth. OK leads the OG duo … Continue reading "185 – Third Eyes ACTIVATE!"

LUCIA IS BACK!!! We talk about navigating the art world during a recession. Is the way forward through Kung Fu?? Notice that the stiffest tree is most easily cracked, while the bamboo or willow survives by bending with the wind. FOLLOW OUR TWITCH WE DID STUFF THERE OVER THE BREAK If you like the podcast … Continue reading "184 – Fighting IRL"

Hello!! Welcome back to the fold, sweet lambs, I missed you terribly so…what's your year been like, kids? Today's Art and Labor is for the fans, and also the haters, who have neglected to call me even once while I was gone…….this week we're cutting it up (hard) on how Scientific Management (Taylor’s Version) mysteriously … Continue reading "183 – Devil Deals"

Strap on your leather necklaces, OK Fox and Eric Kostiuk Willams are back.  Each week we compare and contrast episodes of Sex and the City and Gossip Girl. Join our journey through New York history, find love, AND labels. The good show has a femcels into video art porono, the bad show is a bunch of HR … Continue reading "S01E02 I Couldn't Help But Gossip"

Hey podcastsiders, welcome to our brand new show! Each week we will compare and contrast episodes of Sex and the City and Gossip Girl. Join our journey through New York history, find love, AND labels. Don’t worry! Art and Labor isn’t going away, just on hiatus until we’re all well rested enough for new episodes … Continue reading "I Couldn’t Help But Gossip S01E01"

To hear our take on Andrew Callaghan and This Places Rules please support us on Patreon. 2022 was hard on your Art and Labor crew- so we wanted to start the new year with the most “le fantastique” thing we could think of, a world of endless possibilities, a place where magic could exist, a … Continue reading "182 – I See You"

Hey Upper East Siders. The gossip gxrlies are here, and they’re queer stoners now. Our main characters are #1 Charlie Markbreiter, author, PhD candidate, editor at The New Inquiry, and mod of the Death Panel Discord #2 O.K. Fox, Sonic the Hedgehog fetishist and degenerate podcast host. Together they synthesize why white trans guys are … Continue reading "181 – Gossip Girl Fanfic Novella w/ Charlie Markbreiter"

It's the Christmas reunion special! And how else to possibly celebrate the reason for the season but a long hard look at the Ukranian Russian conflict whose escalation this year has injected so much misery into our lives? That's right folks, Lucia's back for one night only, coming out of their well as an update … Continue reading "180 – Artists in Times of War"

This week Art and Labor is joined by Vera Drew, director of The People's Joker, history's most anticipated queer-coming-of-age indictment of the contemporary comedy landscape through the lens of Batman's Rogues Gallery. We yak it up with Vera over the stunning consistency Ben Folds has to the queer experience, the tenderness of her relationship with … Continue reading "179 – Joker Proletarianism w/ Vera Drew"

OK opens this panel by accosting the Nowadays crowd, a necessary struggle session to ground the conversation physically to art venues’ position to PR, finance, and real estate. We then discuss strategies and wins from music worker organizing with members of Union of Musicians and Allied Workers and Music Workers Alliance. We are honored to … Continue reading "178 – Music & Labor Penny Fractions Panel w/ David Turner, Joey La Neve DeFrancesco, and Phillip Golub"

OK enlisted two of his favorite One Piece freaks—fashion designer and DJ/Producer of Str8 to DVD Sam Branman, and cartoonist August Lipp—to talk critically about the most popular series on the planet who many (present company included) have enjoyed for 15+ years. Although the movie is a big commercial for a vtuber, it has a … Continue reading "177 – One Piece Film Red w/ Sam Branman & August Lipp"

Everyone’s favorite psedo-anonymous arts organizer Nick returns with a thoughtful critique and history of what the group INCITE! coined “the Non-Profit Industrial Complex.” We discuss many of the points from the 2007 (

*come to our live show nowadays 11/9* Woop woop! OK is joined by longtime collaborator, fellow Sparks fan, and prolific artist of many materials including blown glass, jeans, wood carvings, and marzipan—Sessa Englund! It’s a Halloween festival of takes about culture, masculinity, and that ol’ chestnut “can an art space serve the public over capital?” … Continue reading "175 – Cultural Perverts w/ Sessa Englund"

The Band in Hell by Electric Six The band in hellPlays all night longIt’s a sold out showAnd there is only one song There is no rhythmAnd there is no rhymeIt goes on foreverUntil the end of time And now the devil he plays guitarAnd Hitler plays the drumsI’m the man on the microphoneThis is … Continue reading "174 – Coolest Neighborhood in Hell"