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A frustrating hair day turns into a real lesson in boundaries when a teammate knows exactly when to step aside. Lesley Logan explains why honoring limits builds deeper trust, and why the person who says no is often worth keeping close. She also celebrates listener wins around consistency and guilt-free rest, proof that showing up and slowing down both count.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Frustrating hair routine highlights the need for simpler solutions.Recognizing limits and handing the job to the right person.Consistent weekly movement routines worth sharing.Sleeping in is rest, not a screw up to apologize for.Lesley's mantra of week to carry into the weekend.Episode References/Links:Lesley Logan YouTube reformer freebies - https://beitpod.com/reformerfreebieCori - https://threads.instagram.com/cori_ca111@home_grown_pilates - https://www.instagram.com/home_grown_pilatesSubmit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsIf you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentCheck out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose and ToeSox https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentBe in the know with all the workshops at OPC https://workshops.onlinepilatesclasses.com/lp-workshop-waitlistBe It Till You See It Podcast Survey https://pod.lesleylogan.co/be-it-podcasts-surveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates Mentorship https://lesleylogan.co/elevate/FREE Ditching Busy Webinar https://ditchingbusy.com/Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gLesley Logan website https://lesleylogan.co/Be It Till You See It Podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjogqXLnfyhS5VlU4rdzlnQProfitable Pilates https://profitablepilates.com/about/Follow Us on Social Media:Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lesley.logan/The Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gFacebook https://www.facebook.com/llogan.pilatesLinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesley-logan/The OPC YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@OnlinePilatesClasses Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  It's Fuck Yeah Friday. Brad Crowell 0:01  Fuck yeah! Lesley Logan 0:02  Get ready for some wins. Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:47  Hey, Be It babe. How are you? Welcome back to our Friday episodes. Oh my gosh. Okay, so this Friday you're hearing this, and I'm about to go into a whirlwind of trains, planes, and automobiles. So we are praying to the travel gods that everything goes well, but today is also a Fuck Yeah Friday, which means we get to vent a little bit, and you get to share some wins, and you get a mantra, and get on your day, and that means I get to share your wins. And so when you send them into the beitpod.com/questions, it really helps because then I can share it with you on the date you might need to hear. You might be stuck in traffic and going, "Oh my god, that's a win I had a month ago, thank God, I'm being reminded of that. Right. Before we get into your win, because being in my communities, you know, you can vent, but you have to have a win. So I'm gonna tell you right now, my hair looks really good on this video if you're watching it. But I've been annoyed with my hair because it feels like it only looks good the day I wash it. It air dries so cute, and then it's a tangled mess, and then I brush it, and then it's never cute again. Don't even come at me with your spray bottles. I've tried them all. I've bought everything that's for type two A hair, aka Irish hair. I've tried everything. It doesn't work, so I'm just frustrated because I just want to have pretty hair without spending an hour on it every day. My makeup only takes eight minutes, right? So, anyways, here's what happened that's a win, my hairdresser, my love, and I was like, "Can we like shave my head? Can we cut it off? Can we do this? And she's, "No, no, no, no, no." And then finally, the girl who cuts hair next to her was wonderful. And I've talked to her every time I come in. I love her. She said, "My hairdresser, who does my hair, dyes my hair. She's cutting your hair. She's going to be the one that does it. She's doing it. And so that girl's, "When am I seeing you? Okay when I get back from tour. So after I record this, I am going to get my hair cut by someone who is going to do a great job. And I love my girl who dyes my hair, but she really truly wants someone else to cut it, and I respect that. Like I actually truly respect that. I think that is so amazing. So a win is also that I have an amazing team around me. Who is I'm not the person who's doing this for you. And I love that she has boundaries like that, so that's a win for her as well. Lesley Logan 2:44  All right, your win is from @cori_ca111, "I did a reformer workout 3 times this week, with one of your YouTube freebies." I love reading that. I'm glad you got to enjoy. We've got a couple reformer workouts on there. They're old. You guys have to go look for them, but they exist, so put new ones out every week on OPC. But way to get three in a week-that is amazing. And then this one is from @home_grown_pilates, "I got to sleep in. It was fabulous." I love that you are treating that as a win because I do think so many people go, "Oh, I slept in, I screwed up, and you're like, "Oh my god, it was fabulous! Like way to celebrate taking care of you. Lesley Logan 3:20  All right, loves. So the Be It Pod is here for you. It's here to support you. It's here to give you some great ideas for how to be it till you see it. Acting more like the person you want to be before waiting for it to be there. And I just hope that this is so helpful. So please let us know what your favorite takeaways are. What topics do you want us to make sure we're doing episodes on because we are actively finding guests on specific topics you've reached out to us about, and also done doing some solo episodes. Lesley Logan 3:45  And here is your mantra: "I am enough just as I am. I'm enough just as I am. Be It babe, you are enough just as you are. Go have an amazing, amazing weekend. Thank you so much. I'll talk to you soon. Oh, and until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 4:01  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 4:44  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 4:49  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 4:53  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi. Lesley Logan 5:00  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 5:04  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Lesley Logan and Brad Crowell break down the conversation with Jamie Lerner, a well-being therapist and author who left psychotherapy after watching clients use their past as the excuse that kept them stuck. They dig into why society rewards women for wearing the busy badge, what it actually means to look inward, and the internal compass Jamie says everyone is born with.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:How society rewards women who put themselves last and stay overworked.Brad unpacks the inner knowing Jamie calls a natural internal compass.Five minutes of silence outside as the practice of looking inward.Laughing when you judge others reveals what you actually want yourself.Setting aside ten minutes daily for lovingly curious questions.Episode References/Links:Attention Deficit Disorder Association (ADDA) - https://add.orgupLift Teacher Training Program - https://xxll.co/uwseLevate Mentorship Program - https://lesleylogan.co/elevateOPC Flashcards - https://opc.me/flashcardsOPC Posters - https://opc.me/postersPilates on Tour (Powered by Balanced Body) - https://xxll.co/potCambodia Retreat Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.comOPC Winter Tour - https://opc.me/tourJamie Lerner's Website - https://jamie-lerner.comBook: The Ever Loving Essence of You - https://a.co/d/0i9I7Tc5The Quickie Texting Service - https://beitpod.com/quickietextingEp. 1 ft. Joanna Vargas - https://beitpod.com/ep01Core Compassion Project - https://corecompassionproject.orgSubmit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsIf you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentCheck out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose and ToeSox https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentBe in the know with all the workshops at OPC https://workshops.onlinepilatesclasses.com/lp-workshop-waitlistBe It Till You See It Podcast Survey https://pod.lesleylogan.co/be-it-podcasts-surveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates Mentorship https://lesleylogan.co/elevate/FREE Ditching Busy Webinar https://ditchingbusy.com/Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gLesley Logan website https://lesleylogan.co/Be It Till You See It Podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjogqXLnfyhS5VlU4rdzlnQProfitable Pilates https://profitablepilates.com/about/Follow Us on Social Media:Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lesley.logan/The Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gFacebook https://www.facebook.com/llogan.pilatesLinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesley-logan/The OPC YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@OnlinePilatesClasses Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  I actually don't think it's bad to be jealous. I think it is bad to judge yourself for being jealous and not actually taking a moment to know why. What about that thing is making me have the grass is greener?Lesley Logan 0:11  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:54  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad and I are going to dig into the insightful convo I had with Jamie Lerner in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, feel free to pause this now and go back and listen to that one, and then come back and join us, or you can just listen all the way through and then just let your podcast play that one. Brad Crowell 1:11  You can start at episode one. We're only 740 in right now.Lesley Logan 1:15  I know. I mean, so many. It's so many. Today is October 1st 2026. It is ADHD Awareness Month, and you are listening to two ADHD hosts. By the way, just so you know, when we record these, the Adderall is worn off, so.Brad Crowell 1:29  That's also true.Lesley Logan 1:30  It's all we don't ever record when we are medicated. So because that would be that would make too much sense. But ADHD Awareness Month shines a light on Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder throughout October. This vital observance, spearheaded by organizations like Attention Deficit Disorder Association, aims to educate the public, reduce stigma, and champion effective treatments. Join the conversation, share resources, and support those navigating life with ADHD. I just want to tell you guys, it's not like a trend to go get diagnosed. If you think that you that's what's going on with you. You should do it because there are really great tools and systems that you can use. You don't have to take Adderall. There's other options. There's other systems you could put in place. But it has been really quite helpful to understand what's ADHD and what's just tired and what's whatever. And oh, I'm going on a dopamine high. Let's adopt a dog. You know, decisions like that. But I highly recommend it. And then the other thing I just want to add is I listened to this really wonderful clip where this woman said that the title ADHD is not really the best because it's what it is is it's a regulation disorder. People with ADHD have a hard time regulating in general. So like we go on highs and lows and highs and lows because it's really hard to regulate. I really like the example of you know those of you who listen to the podcast. Most of you understand, in the 80s and 90s there were those pens that had red, green, black, blue, right?Brad Crowell 2:50  Sure.Lesley Logan 2:51  So a neurotypical person will think red, click red, use red, finish the red, right? A neurodivergent person. Brad Crowell 3:00  Is that what they'll do?Lesley Logan 3:00  Yeah, a neurodivergent person with ADHD will go. I had five ideas, all five pen, all five colors at the same time. That's how their brain works. And I thought that if you don't understand what that's like, you that I think it's a good visual. So, anyways, if you hear chewing in the background, that's Darla, and we're gonna let her do it because it keeps her busy, otherwise. Brad Crowell 3:19  That's her ADHD (inaudible) also, too, my understanding is that ADHD presents itself slightly differently between men and women, and it's really coming out strong as. Lesley Logan 3:34  The largest number of women are going through perimenopause at the same time.Brad Crowell 3:37  Yes, that is the point I was ultimately trying to eloquently get to, that I am not a woman to be able to say that, but that's happening right now, and so it might be that you have ADHD undiagnosed and don't know it. And if you're thinking, "Oh my god, I can't fucking think anymore, maybe it's because of this, and it's worth going to talk to someone about it. We did, and it was hilarious. Lesley's already told the story, but in five minutes, the psychiatrist was, "Yeah, you have ADHD. I'm giving you boom. You know, you're good. Let's go.Lesley Logan 4:10  And Brad and I did.Brad Crowell 4:11  I had to do a friggin' test.Lesley Logan 4:12  You did all the tests. I was. I don't have time for these tests.Brad Crowell 4:16  I had to go do a whole computer exam and the whole nine. I mean, I'm glad I did, but also I was. I gotta go all the way back out here to this place. I mean it's like 20 minutes away, but it felt like forever. Anyway, I'm very happy that I am formally diagnosed, and it has been interesting to to be taking medication for something like this because I I just always assumed that I was just getting older and my brain wasn't working the way that it used to, and that's true, I think. But also, I wonder. I don't know. I felt very productive and you know cogent when I was younger, and then things just started to slip away for me, and I just associated that with all the things that happened in my life and. Lesley Logan 4:55  Maybe you're going through perimenopause.Brad Crowell 4:56  Yeah, I must be. I mean, I think I think that's it.Brad Crowell 5:00  That's the conclusion. I don't even know how I didn't come to that conclusion. Lesley Logan 5:02  You know what I will say is the psychiatrist was really thoughtful. She said, "Look, she says what you'll have to understand about yourself is it's you versus the ADHD, and if you can really understand what's me and what's ADHD, it will really help you. As is a child where my ADHD was fully showing up, and people, oh, you're just not applying yourself. Oh, you're just being you're procrastinating. Oh, this, and so really, I'll be completely honest. I actually had a moment of being fucking pissed off because I think my life would be completely different had someone just diagnosed me earlier. Instead, I went my whole life masking, and then I got to a place where my hormones weren't helping me mask anymore, and I was tired of masking. And then I was just a fucking cunt. I was just mean. I was irritable. And now, when I am taking the medication and I'm focused and I'm irritable, I actually know that I am actually irritated. Versus, oh, this is just my. I'm tired. My brain is not able to operate, which means watch the fuck out because now I know.Brad Crowell 6:03  Now we know.Lesley Logan 6:04  Now we know. Now we know. And I'm a January Aquarius, and so some of it is we're tired. We're ready. We're moving on. Anyways, moving on. There's a lot of a lot of events and travel. So upLift is our teacher training program. You probably have heard the rumor. It's been something they've been whispering about. But my teacher training program for new teachers or partially trained teachers is called upLift, and it is going to start early next year in many different cities. If you want to know which cities that are going to be in.Brad Crowell 6:27  Probably around the world, in fact.Lesley Logan 6:29  That's our goal. That's our goal. At the time we're recording this, I'm looking at the applications right now, and I have some really epic educators that have applied that I'm really excited about. We're working really hard to make sure that next year is the right time for them, but you want to go to xxll.co/uws xxll.co/uws. If you are what are what is this all. Brad Crowell 6:51  That's for upLift waitlistLesley Logan 6:53  studentBrad Crowell 6:54  studentLesley Logan 6:54  and you can blame Brad. So go there because I'm updating that waitlist monthly, and those are the people the people who will hear about the locations first. You won't have to wait for the Instagram algorithm to show you something. eLevate is for those who are already trained and you're looking for more of a master's program to study amongst other teachers, and you want to directly study with me. You can look at our live Q and A call that we did earlier this summer. I guess it's at lesleylogan.co/elevate. I will just tell you, we're recording this not when you're hearing it, and at the time of recording, there are two spots left in 2028, and 10 applications that at any time someone could go, yes, I'm ready, but don't let that stop you. Check it out. See, you might get the last spot if that's what you're looking for. Also, eLevate grads are the people who right now can apply to be an upLift educator. So if you were oh I want to be one of those educators, you must have gone through upLift at this time. So check that out. The flashcards. If you didn't know, maybe you love OPC or you're not ready to be an OPC member yet, but you are wanting to study with me, and like the other options are just not what you need right now. You can be a Pilates lover of any level. You can be a teacher of any background. And when you buy the OPC flashcards, you're actually supporting the Nevada SPCA, which is where we got Miss Darla. Go to opc.me/flashcards. We have six decks in there in the set, and they're wonderful. And they're edited by a contemporary trained instructor with contemporary equipment, and they are edited by my sister-in-law, who's never done Pilates. So anyone can read them. And then we have heard so many times people don't know where the posters are. Go to opc.me/posters. Okay, wow, this is a lot of talking. Really quickly, we are headed to Sacramento literally next week, and it's sold out. So you, too bad, so sad. You missed. If you don't have a ticket, you're. We're not seeing you there.Brad Crowell 8:36  Sacramento because Balanced Body is having a Pilates On Tour. It's also their 50th anniversary celebration.Lesley Logan 8:41  You can hang out with me at another 50th celebration, but stay tuned for that. We are going to go from Sacramento by another train to San Francisco. I think this sounds like a terrible idea, but this is what we're doing to fly to Cambodia to lead our retreat. And it was definitely an ADHD planned moment, and now we're going to live it.Brad Crowell 9:00  Oh we're living it.Lesley Logan 9:01  We're living it. Just thinking about the return trip home. So here's the deal, guys. We're driving to Sacramento with the van.Brad Crowell 9:07  Which is nine and a half hours.Lesley Logan 9:08  Nine and a half hours. Okay, sounds fun because it's so much easier than shipping the flashcards. It costs us so much fucking money to do that. Brad Crowell 9:15  It's also trying to get the van at the event.Lesley Logan 9:18  Yeah, but it's not gonna. Brad Crowell 9:21  We're gonna park that right out front. We're we're putting that in they're gonna they're gonna valet park that sucker right in front of the entrance.Lesley Logan 9:28  I know Brad's gonna figure that out because the event is not at their headquarters. Brad Crowell 9:31  No, it's at the Hyatt or something. Lesley Logan 9:32  It's like a thing, right? Yeah. So, anyways, I'll let you figure that out because I that's not my monkey, not my circus. Then we'll be at the event. Then we're gonna park that van at Ken Endelman's house, supposedly, which we have no idea where that is in regards to the Amtrak. We have to take an Amtrak. Hopefully, there's one left. We take the Amtrak to a BART before the BART shut down on a Sunday night. From the BART to our hotel, and then the next morning we fly out of San Francisco. Part of me is just throw money at this problem and park the van somewhere in San Francisco, but it's San Francisco, and I'm a little worried someone's going to move in. So we're not doing that. Not doing that. So, then. Brad Crowell 10:08  No, if we're going to throw money at the problem, we're hiring a private driver from Sacramento.Lesley Logan 10:11  That's a great idea. But here's what's going to happen: we return back, and we have to do the reverse trip, you guys, we have to go BART to Amtrak, Amtrak to the van, and then a nine and a half hour drive home. And this is the part that I don't think my husband has thought through. So you're hearing it first here. I think he is too. So if you want to go to Cambodia next year, when we're not doing planes, trains, and automobiles, you can get on the wait list. I don't know the link for that. Brad will tell you.Brad Crowell 10:39  crowsnestretreats.comLesley Logan 10:41  Great. January is when we'll open up the early bird. We have so many people interested in 2027. I promise you do not want to wait. Brad Crowell 10:48  We had a lot of interest, especially from this summer tour that we just got back from. A lot of interest, and I'm telling you, this past year's trip sold out in three weeks, and I'm sure this one is going to do the same or even faster.Lesley Logan 11:02  Yeah. Then in November, I'm teaching at basically a Pilates On Tour, but in China, outside of Shanghai, I can't tell you how you're going to sign up for that. But I feel I feel like if you Google it, it will happen. They are not. They've not sent me a link for you. So, but people are excited.Brad Crowell 11:17  You can find it online.Lesley Logan 11:18  I'm sure you can. I'm sure you're all here. I'm sure you can all Google, but then because I'm a crazy person, I'm gonna go back to Asia two weeks later to teach at Pilates On Tour Goa.Brad Crowell 11:30  Which is India.Lesley Logan 11:31  Yeah, it is India. I think people know Goa. It looks stunning, you guys. And this particular POT, it's the last one of the 50th year celebration, and when you, it's very different because we all have lunch together. It's more like a retreat style. You are there for the whole event. You are going to go to Instagram Pilates On Tour India, and you can sign up through there because.  Brad Crowell 11:54  It's not on the POT page. It's not on Balanced Body's website.Lesley Logan 11:57  I mean, you know what? It might be.Brad Crowell 11:58  It is. It's xxll.co/potLesley Logan 12:00  Okay, do that. What do I know? I'm just the. Brad Crowell 12:02  I'm sure it's on there.Lesley Logan 12:03  You guys, today is October 1st, which means the tickets drop today for the winter tour. So do not miss out. Go to opc.me/tour because.Brad Crowell 12:12  By the way, if you didn't hear what she just said, the winter tour tickets have just dropped today.Lesley Logan 12:19  Today, today, today, and we, it's going to be a very big tour. I'm actually flying from Goa to Denver, which doesn't make any sense now that I know the route. I'm coming through Europe, so I probably should have met you in New York. Brad Crowell 12:34  Yeah, we're not. We're not doing that. You're coming as close to home as possible, but yeah, we're going to pick her up in in in Denver, and then go from there. But it's exciting to see the route is coming together. We're almost done. I can tell you the first half of the tour is going to take us from we're going to do Fort Collins or just south. There's a smaller town just south of Fort Collins. That's going to be the first tour stop. It's going to go up. There's a couple of stops on the way to Chicago, and there's a bunch more stops on the way to Boston, and then we're gonna scoop back around through New York and then Hershey, we're coming back to you.Lesley Logan 13:06  We love Hershey. You love us. Brad Crowell 13:09  Then we're going down East Coast, but we're gonna cut over to Charlotte, North Carolina, and then we're gonna make our way down to Florida and then back across the country. So those are still TBD. We're working out the-the logistics and all the things. Lesley Logan 13:22  By the time you're hearing this, it's worked out.Brad Crowell 13:24  Oh yeah, it's worked out. Just go to OPC.me/tour. What am I talking about?Lesley Logan 13:27  We're actually just recording this in the past.Brad Crowell 13:30  Yeah.Lesley Logan 13:31  Before it has been because that's how we do life. Okay, we got to move on.Brad Crowell 13:34  Let's go. Let's go.Lesley Logan 13:35  So real quick, you guys, as you know, October is Breast Cancer Awareness Month, and we wanted to spotlight a a project that we actually know the founder of very well. We know Pilates instructors who are part of it. So it's a nonprofit built by the Pilates community, founded in 2012 by Pilates instructor Jill Hinson after she saw firsthand how quickly Reformer work helped two clients recover from breast cancer surgery to regain their strength and mobility. So it's the Core Compassion Project, and realized that most people who could benefit from Pilates couldn't afford it. So, especially when they're going through cancer treatment. So, Core Compassion provides Pilate scholarships to breast cancer patients and survivors. $700 funds 10 private one-on-one sessions with a certified instructor who's specifically trained in post-cancer rehab, which is very important. You can't just show up to any Pilates studio and expect them to be able to support you during this journey, you definitely want someone who understands because they'll probably need what they can also provide is free specialized fitness bras and lymphedema compression sleeves, and then things which are things like survivors are needing, but the insurance doesn't cover most times. Doesn't cover a lot of things anymore. It's 100% volunteer run with a board that includes past scholarship recipients, and every October they rally the Pilates community together through their Compassion MATraiser, where studios and teachers host donation-based classes to fund the mission. If you are a Pilates person listening to this, and probably you are, this is your charity. So find more at corecompassionproject.org, or if you're just someone who wants to support women who are going through this and need this, it's at corecompassionproject.org. Obviously, if you don't have, you can also just supply $5. I mean, they'll take it, I'm sure. So, but $700 gets you gets that person 10 one-on-one sessions, which is really wonderful for someone who can understand what they're going through. So, anyways, if you have a charity you'd like us to look into, or you have a win that you want me to talk about on the FYFs, you can text us at 310-905-5534 or submit it at beitpod.com/questions. Yeah, okay, we're ready to talk about Jamie Lerner, finally.Brad Crowell 15:32  Woo!Brad Crowell 15:34  Welcome back. Let's talk about Jamie Lerner. Jamie is a well-being therapist and an author. She helps people get from where they are to where they want to be. After years as a psychotherapist, Jamie realized that having people look back at their past was not helping them move forward. Instead, it was becoming the very excuse that kept them stuck. So she walked away and looked within, discovering that her superpower was her own inner knowing about her own life, and she was trying to figure out how to explain that to others, how they can get back to that themselves. So today, she teaches people to trust themselves, take personal responsibility, and get lovingly curious about their own inner being. So, she wrote a book. It's called The Ever Loving Essence of You. You can find it on Amazon. She also has a service called The Quickie, which is her texting service where you can buy a package of time and text back and forth with her. Those links are going to be in the show notes. But she clearly has been through the psychotherapy couch sessions and was I'm over this myself. I'm I'm going to help people in a different way. It was really cool.Lesley Logan 16:38  I can't even imagine because I have to be honest. I can't even have friends who repeat themselves and stick get stuck. Like it really, it takes everything in me to listen to someone complain about the same thing for the third time. I cannot. So I could not ever have that job. And she said we we often live in a this victim mentality, and that society actively rewards women for being the victim by putting ourselves last and being overworked, and so it's true because everyone just wears the busy badge, right? I've got the busy badge of honor over here, and look how busy I am, look how tired I am, and look at all the things that I've done. And then guess what, you guys? Let's guess what they're gonna do. When you fail, then they're gonna call you controlling, emotional, emotional perfectionist, some control freak. So you can't win, but it's a false belief that all these other things are more important than our own well-being, and we use, she said, we use being busy as an excuse, choosing to hide behind it simply because we do not know how to include ourselves in self-care, and I think this is really key because I meet so many people who say, well, so it must be so nice for you because you have the time. You don't have kids, so you must have the time. You're right. I don't have kids. I don't have kids. We have two dogs, so I don't. They're not the same. But also, we're very busy. We have three companies plus a fourth in a different country. We have hundreds of members. We have dozens of people on our team. We have a different version of responsibilities. And if I do not take care of myself, I am not going to be able to do these things.Brad Crowell 18:06  Yeah, we we have a different definition of busy, and it doesn't involve you know kids and soccer games.Lesley Logan 18:10  I would say different definition of responsibility. We have different responsibilities. So, but I.  Brad Crowell 18:15  I guess we have a we have the same we have we have the same I'm busy excuse, but just in a different manner.Lesley Logan 18:21  Yeah, but I also, but I really do think that she is correct that we went. Okay, this. Well, I'm glad that we're re-recording this. You guys, this is the second time we record this. We recorded this before tour, and now we're back from tour. And we were in a city. I will not name the city, but we were in a city, and it was, we walked into a restaurant, which, by the way, the team did not tell me that there's probably a dress code. So I walk in, in cutoff shorts and an oversized T-shirt, with my bright red platform Crocs, okay, so I look like hell, and it was definitely the Real Housewives of that city kind of a restaurant. And we got stuck next to this table of the Real Housewives from that city, and I, five minutes of eavesdropping to their table, and I was, "Brad, I fucking cannot. If this is what having friendships like this is supposed to be about in a city, thank God we don't have kids. I could not." All they did was talk about, oh, it was how's your mom, and then the only reason they would listen is if their mom was sick. Oh, how's your kid? If you talked about your kids doing great, they didn't know what to say, so then they said, "Oh, well, she's struggling with this. Oh my god, mine too. Everyone, the conversation only kept going, and you were only rewarded for what you said if it was all negative and you were a victim and something was wrong. My goodness, you know what my favorite conversations with my friends are, is what they celebrate. Oh, I slayed this. Yeah, I bet you did. I love those conversations. So, anyways, but that's how people are rewarded, and then they get rewarded for putting themselves last because they're definitely looked at badly if they put themselves first by those people. But I would say there's a whole group of people like me who are ready to celebrate you putting yourself first. So, and Jamie, that's what Jamie wants.Brad Crowell 19:58  And Jamie. Absolutely. One thing I loved that Jamie said was that we are all born with a knowing, which acts as like a natural internal compass. This is very foreign idea to me. I did not grow up with anyone explaining that I could look inwardly and I could understand what I'm feeling and if something is right or wrong for me. You know, it's just not how I was raised.Lesley Logan 20:22  So I wasn't raised that way, but I know I had this, and that's why I felt like a weirdo, and that's why I was getting like I would get in trouble because the inner knowing was the compass. I don't actually know where East and West is, but I know what felt good, and that what people were wanting me to do did not feel good. Yeah, I didn't know how to do it. I didn't know what I was doing, so I was just.Brad Crowell 20:39  I definitely wasn't a people-pleaser. I was definitely the rebel, and I did the rebel. Lesley Logan 20:44  Yeah, I would say you have an inner knowing. You wore ridiculous clothes every single day. Brad Crowell 20:48  Yeah, but it was a little bit of like an FU to the man in a sense, as a teenager.Lesley Logan 20:51  Yeah, because there's an inner knowing that you that you wanted to do that.Brad Crowell 20:53  I did want to do that, and I was I always looked out to see how I could stick a thorn in the side of the process without actually getting in trouble, yeah, that's how I rolled. I didn't really want to get in trouble, but I really wanted to cause trouble. Does that make sense? Lesley Logan 21:07  You just wanted to see how far you could do without being in trouble because you wanted to feel like you were breaking the rules without breaking the rules. Brad Crowell 21:13  Yeah, yeah, pretty much. Yeah, you know. But anyway, this inner knowing that Jamie's talking about, she explained because of the contrast of life, society trains us to look outside of ourselves for pretty much everything, right? I mean, the irony is that we have a podcast telling you to look inwardly, but I think that it is just natural for us to look outside of ourselves. Our our parents, our church, our work, our friends, our siblings-you know-we're constantly looking to others for approval, I was the same way, especially when I was younger.Lesley Logan 21:43  Oh, we're raised to look at other people for approval, especially women. But I'm sure you, too, because even the Boy Scouts are the troop leaders going to give you these badges. Did you do a good enough job? Everything is to get other people's opinions of you to matter, but that's not whose opinion matters.Brad Crowell 21:58  Yeah, and seeking that external validation causes us to lose the basic sense of can we even trust our own decisions? What do we actually want for us? We don't even know what we want for us most of the time. Well, especially when we were growing up, what we wanted for us was what our parents told us we wanted for us, and then and then like somewhere in there, we're supposed to be oh now I get to choose what I want for me, you know, and and and we don't shift. Oh, you know, we're still looking to.Lesley Logan 22:26  Well, you never got to practice it.Brad Crowell 22:28  Right. Yeah, and and her argument is it's very easy for us to get back to looking internally, and she says that there's a trust that gets built when you sit with yourself, and she was talking about it's not even complicated in the sense of this meditation idea that I could never wrap my head around. And she said, "You know, you don't need to do any anything like that. It could just be five minutes of silence drinking a cup of coffee, where you just have a moment of you with you.Lesley Logan 22:57  Oh my god! I forgot my AirPods yesterday on the dog walk.Brad Crowell 22:59  Weird. Lesley Logan 23:00  I know. I loved it.Brad Crowell 23:03  Oh, that was like an hour. Yeah. Well, good for you. Lesley Logan 23:06  I mean, here's the deal. I loved the first half, and then the second half, I was done with it myself because I'm in my head all day, you know. So I didn't need more time. But so I did listen to a podcast without headphones, and well, the neighbors get to listen to my my true crime. But the first half was just like such a nice. I could hear the birds and all the things, and I was. This is wonderful. Maybe I should just not put them in until halfway.Brad Crowell 23:28  I mean, I love that.Lesley Logan 23:29  It's a it's a good intention.Brad Crowell 23:31  There's value. There's value.Lesley Logan 23:32  I will say you don't even have to do that. Five minutes is actually not that long, and you you sit out on the front porch, you know, or you could walk around a block, or you could just walk across the street. But you should get outside and be quiet.Brad Crowell 23:46  So if you want a feeling of coming home to yourself, start to look inward and see what that means. You know?Lesley Logan 23:52  I'm all. Here's the thing: she does make it sound so simple in a way that I did challenge her. Is it really that simple? Hold on. Is there? I mean, I was Jamie, people aren't gonna think it's that simple, but I think we overcomplicate things, and people have overcomplicated things to sell you something. And she's, it's actually, it is actually simple. And I think sometimes we think, well, then it must not work. But I really did believe, I do, I do trust what she had to say at the end. You know what? I bet you it is that simple, and we just want it to be complicated because then we can't do it. Brad Crowell 24:24  Yeah, I mean, but what is it? You know, when you're, what does it mean to look inwardLesley Logan 24:29  To listen to yourself and not other people?Brad Crowell 24:31  Yeah.Lesley Logan 24:31  Oh gosh, I mean, I think it means that you. Well, this is what people won't want to do, and they feel like they're going to let people down because they're doing things for themselves and not for other people. But you, the only we can let people down is if you are actually incapable of being empathetic and loving and and taking and. Brad Crowell 24:47  No, that's not what I mean. What's the practice of looking inward? Lesley Logan 24:50  I think that's personal.Brad Crowell 24:52  Yeah, but we have to give them an actual tangible. Lesley Logan 24:55  Well, I think Jamie did it in in the podcast. I think it's in these takeaways.Brad Crowell 24:59  So I'm gonna tell you that sitting with yourself and actually not distracting yourself and having a moment to think, that's.Lesley Logan 25:10  Yeah, but I'm not gonna tell you right now because I'm looking ahead.Brad Crowell 25:12  All right, well stick around. We'll be right back. Because that was a great teaser.Brad Crowell 25:15  Woo! Welcome back. Let's dig into those Be It Action Items that we had with Jamie Lerner on the last episode, what bold, executable, intrinsic, or targeted action items can we take away from Lesley's convo with her? She said, "Hey, laugh when you judge others, because what that means is that we're actually judging ourselves because we're projecting. We are projecting, and you know, take it from a psychotherapist to understand the technical elements of all those things, she says it simply means we're just projecting how we feel about ourselves onto others because we're judging them. And what that means is we are not connected to ourselves. We are not looking inward on ourselves at all in that moment. And she said it takes a little bit of practice, but when you start to identify that you're judging others, you should laugh at yourself. So I thought that was really funny. Go laugh with yourself, not at yourself.Lesley Logan 26:07  Yeah, yeah. No, it's like, hahahaha, I clearly want that. Or there's something about that. How that's so funny. I didn't realize it's something I wanted, or that's something that there's something about that I desire. Or there's you know I actually don't think it's bad to be jealous, I think it is bad to judge yourself for being jealous and not actually taking a moment to know what about that thing is making me have the grass is greener? Oh, there's something about that that you want. Maybe not that exact thing, but there's an energy or an emotion or something. And so I think taking the time to notice what you're jealous of, or we have a couple solo episodes about comparison. I think just came out. Anyways, about comparison, and we compare ourselves when the clarity isn't clear about what we want. And when clarity is clear, you're gonna be more likely to see that someone else doing something has nothing to do with your ability to do something. But when you are comparing yourself to someone else, and that jealousy is there. Then it's a sign, like, "Oh, I'm not clear on what I want. How silly of me to be so hard on myself when I obviously haven't finished planning."Brad Crowell 27:11  Yeah, she said, "It's an observation of how often you're disconnected in any given moment, and the realization and laughter allows you to reconnect with yourself. So there's no time to judge yourself for judging others. But what about you?Lesley Logan 27:25  Well, this goes into the question you had about going inward. She said, and I'll go back to the other things that she said, set aside 10 minutes every day. That's not even a half a percent of your day. Set aside 10 minutes every day, or just little moments here and there to get tuned back into yourself. And she said, "You can sit quietly and notice how often we're unkind and cruel to ourselves in a way we would never speak to another person. And she said, "In this time, ask yourself questions that are lovingly curious. Oh, I wonder why I am so interested in what that person is doing, or I wonder why I'm so intrigued by that, or I wonder what would allow me to be able to do something like that. Have some loving curiosity about yourself instead of having demanding immediate solutions. Go of needing an answer and just asking is enough. We can go back to episode one.Brad Crowell 28:11  Wow.Lesley Logan 28:11  Episode one is about just being like it is. Brad Crowell 28:15  I wonder.Lesley Logan 28:16  I wonder. You know, and so, opening a loop in your brain, so that you can oh, yeah. I don't think they can read. It's really hard.Brad Crowell 28:25  It's hard.Lesley Logan 28:26  It's hard. Brad Crowell 28:27  If you're watching on YouTube, we are trying to. There's my 1/3 tattoo on my hand, and it's on for me to see, which makes it very difficult for you to see. So she said, practice this moment by moment, which I also love because.Brad Crowell 28:39  Wait, what did she say?Lesley Logan 28:40  She said, "Practice this moment by moment", and that's something I also love because we are so hard on ourselves to be able to do this all the time. No, you do little bits, and over time they add up to lots of bits, and then it takes more of your day. And she said, "Most important," she said, "Know yourself, love yourself, and trust yourself, and laugh a lot with yourself." And I do think I remember my parents always saying, "Laughter brings healing to the bones." Brad Crowell 29:05  It's the best medicine. Lesley Logan 29:07  It's the best medicine. It's a great core workout. So I couldn't agree more.Brad Crowell 29:10  That's what they said?Lesley Logan 29:11  Well, they didn't talk about the core workout, but I added that part. They would take a lesson, go, "Laughter brings healing to the bones."Brad Crowell 29:17  Wow. I don't think my parents did that.Lesley Logan 29:21  We had very different childhoods. Brad Crowell 29:23  They just tickle monster us.Lesley Logan 29:24  You you had a very consistent one. Mine was a little bit of a roller coaster.Brad Crowell 29:28  Healing to the bones.Lesley Logan 29:32  You know what's something so funny is I was in my Pilates session today, and my teacher Kim was talking to these other two women who were in the group, and they said they said something. He goes, "No, you're not weak. You're impatient." And I laughed so hard as, and they're like, "Oh, I have to put that on my wall. You're not weak. You're just impatient." Yeah, you guys are just expecting yourself to be good about something you just learned yesterday. You're not. It's not a weakness. It's like you're expecting something to happen tomorrow when you just learned how to do it yesterday. You know. So be kind. Have some loving curiosity.Brad Crowell 30:10  Yeah. 10 minutes will do that. Set aside.Lesley Logan 30:13  I'm Lesley Logan,Brad Crowell 30:13  and I'm Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 30:14  You're amazing. Go send this to a friend as they hear it. Go laugh with yourself. And until next time, Be It Till You See It.Brad Crowell 30:20  Bye for now.Lesley Logan 30:21  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. 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Most people were trained to look outside themselves for every answer, and the habit runs so deep it stops feeling like a choice. Well-Being therapist Jamie Lerner joins Lesley Logan to make the case that the knowing was always there, and getting back to it takes ten minutes a day, not a seventeen-point journal and a three-hour workshop. Jamie explains why laughter beats self-judgment, how alignment makes action feel effortless, and why procrastination might be the friend nobody told you about.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:How seeking outside becomes the excuse not to look within.Why Jamie says not to share your knowing with anyone.Laughter as the pattern for catching yourself judging others.10 minutes a day is enough to get tuned back into yourself.Reframing procrastination as time to get into alignment.Episode References/Links:Jamie Lerner's Website - https://jamie-lerner.comThe Quickie Texting Service - https://beitpod.com/quickietextingBook: The Ever Loving Essence of You - https://a.co/d/0i9I7Tc5Jamie Lerner's LinkedIn - https://beitpod.com/jamielernerlinkedinJamie Lerner's Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/lerner.jamieJamie Lerner's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/jamie_lernerJamie Lerner's X - https://x.com/eleoyCambodia Retreat Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.comSubmit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsGuest Bio:Jamie Lerner, co-author of the book The Ever-Loving Essence of You, can put a fresh spin on just about anything that anyone throws her way. Her unique and masterful ability to re-frame even the most difficult situations is astounding. All of a sudden, your biggest nightmare becomes your greatest pleasure as she lovingly helps you sift through the contrast and find that small opening of light that quickly becomes your greatest jumping off point for clarity. Unassuming, reassuring and seemingly without any sense of ego, Jamie Lerner is able to put everyone and everything at ease. Jamie Lerner is an asset to any corporate setting. She is easily able to untangle the issues at hand and move right along into helping facilitate a solution-based platform for creative, productive, good-feeling collaboration and change. Jamie Lerner can most often be seen working with adults, teens, children, and couples as well as with small groups. She never positions herself as the expert of anything and is always reminding you that it is you who knows best for yourself ALWAYS. 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And if you don't nourish yourself, it's really impossible to assist others because you feel resentful, and that doesn't feel good to other people or to you.Lesley Logan 0:21  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast, where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world, and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity, and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guests will bring bold, executable, intrinsic, and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and be it till you see it. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 1:03  Oh my goodness, loves! I am doing this intro with the most knowing, the most calm I could be. So obviously, that's a different, like it's a hummingbird calm. But the most calm and joyful, but thoughtful, and I mean, you're going to hear the word "knowing" a few times in this podcast. We have an incredible guest for you. I'm going to tell you right now. You're going to want to listen to this again. It is just wonderful reminder after reminder after reminder for you, my love. Listening to this because it's so easy to look outside of ourselves and then have frustrations about things that are going on. And our guest today is Jamie Lerner, and she is just going to help you find your absolute wonderful you-ness, your essence, and I don't mean that we're not. And this is not a double woo episode at all. This isn't even a woo. This is 100% authentic for you. I'm so excited to listen, and I hope you hit repeat, and I hope you share it with a friend, and I hope you check out what Jamie is doing if it really resonates with you because my goodness, I know I'm going to listen to this episode a few times because I just so many great reminders of what I knew. But sometimes you just get distracted because life gets crazy, and so this hopefully is your put on repeat when you need that. Here's Jamie Lerner. Lesley Logan 2:18  All right, Be It babe, this is gonna be a magical conversation. Get ready. Be inspired, and really excited because we have the Jamie Lerner here, and I'm really thrilled. I got to meet her a while back, and just I'm amazed at what she's doing, and was so excited to talk to her. I had to bring her on. So, Jamie, can you tell everyone who you are and what you rock at?Jamie Lerner 2:36  Yes. So, I am a well-being therapist, and I used to do psychotherapy, and felt like after a while that was just not working for me or the people that I was supposedly serving. So I shifted out of that, and now doing something completely different, which is assisting people in assisting themselves from getting from where they are to where they want to be.Lesley Logan 3:03  Well, of course we have to have you on because this is called "Be It Till You See It." So you got to know where you want to be and where you are. So this is the perfect combination. You can help them. I've been trying, but this is not my forte. This is how I do my life. I just kind of act as if I'm mayor already. But you, you know how to do that?Jamie Lerner 3:21  Well, I just know how to assist people to assist themselves because that is the whole point. That hopefully they don't need me for too long because they're, yeah, they're back to recreating the relationship with themselves, and that's where it all comes from.Lesley Logan 3:37  Oh, I love that. I also love the idea that the goal is that they don't need you forever.Jamie Lerner 3:42  Exactly.Lesley Logan 3:43  Yeah, because I do think sometimes people get a little attached and they feel like they can't do it with some without somebody. I'm a Pilates instructor and I teach a lot of instructors as well to let your clients they need to take ownership of their practice because it's yes, they it's good to have eyes on them and it's good for me to be there for safety. But if when they leave the studio, they're the ones who are walking and running and picking things up, I can't tell them what to do all the time. Otherwise, they don't know how to do it.Jamie Lerner 4:10  Exactly.Lesley Logan 4:11  Well, I want to get into. You just said something. It comes from their well-being. It comes from them. I feel like we're probably born with the ability to know who we are and who we want to be, and then I don't know. Maybe we're not, and then but then the world messes things up, and then we lose track of who we are and what we want to do. Is that the case? Is it something that we all have to discover, anyways? Kind of what? What do you see is is keeping people from being taking ownership and having that well-being?Jamie Lerner 4:37  So I think we're all born with the knowing, and I think just the contrast of life, we tend to be asked to look outside of ourselves for mostly everything, and so there isn't that sense that we could trust ourselves, and so it's much easier to seek outside instead of looking inward for the answer. However, I think it's very easy to get back to that, and when we do, it feels familiar, like coming home to ourselves, and that's when it gets really fun.Lesley Logan 5:14  Oh, I love that! You are right. It doesn't really matter what your career is. There's always this idea of what are other people going to think, or how do I make sure that I get the validation out there? And it's so easy for that to become-it's a need. I mean, obviously, constructive feedback and things like that are helpful, but somehow that can become a habit of where you're no longer listening to yourself.Jamie Lerner 5:37  I think that is the case, and it also becomes the excuse. So a lot of people are unaware of how often they use that excuse not to look within. And for most people, it's easier. It's scary when you have to quiet your mind chatter and really start to hear your own voice and your own inner knowing. So we just defer to everybody and everything else. However, it never quite feels right. I mean, who would know better for you than you? Nobody. Yeah.Lesley Logan 6:11  Oh, I do. I do love that because I mean, it's all. It's always hard for me to. I feel like for my mind to be quiet. My listeners know I'm an Aquarius, so there's a lot in there. A lot of chatter. The ADHD definitely goes strong. But I found ways where I when I fell in love with Pilates, my mind actually quiet got quiet, and I felt like in my body. And so I become kind of obsessed because every time I was in my Pilates and actually getting that mind-body connection, my mind was quiet, and I could hear these thoughts. You don't like to live here anymore, and I'm wow. What a weird thought to have, you know. So I will. We have to find these ways to quiet our mind. Do you have tools for people? Because I mean, most people are told to meditate, and a number of people I know who feel like they can't meditate. It's really makes it feel like one more thing they can't do.Jamie Lerner 6:59  Yeah and I think the idea of meditation is very intimidating because somehow we feel like there's just one way to do it, and we're never going to do it correctly. And I think meditation is just quieting the mind and being still and connected with yourself, even if it's five minutes, any point in the day where you can be so present that you can receive the thoughts that you're having in a way that's lovingly curious.Lesley Logan 7:26  Oh, well, that's hard, Jamie, lovingly curious. My listeners are recovering perfectionists and overachievers who are very rarely lovingly curious on themselves. You know what I mean? I find people to now more than ever they're so harsh on themselves. They're so loving towards others. They're so quick to give compliments to other people, and they're so hard on themselves.Jamie Lerner 7:47  But I think when we give people permission to do it, then it's easier. And I don't think we get that permission often. But to ask someone to do it, even as homework assignment to hear and feel something about yourself that you appreciate. One thing, not something that someone appreciates about you, but something that you appreciate about yourself. And I think that's a lovingly curious invitation.Lesley Logan 8:19  I do love that. What a great homework assignment. Everyone, write that down. That's your homework for number one. I'm glad you brought that up because one of the reasons I started this podcast is I found myself being in these amazing groups of people and not feeling like I could articulate questions. People had great questions, and I was like, "Oh, that's a great question. Oh, that's a great question." I would learn from their questions, but I was, they go, "Lesley, what's your question?" I'm like, "Oh, oh my God! What's my question? The pressure to come up with a question? And I found my brain judging the question. Oh, you could just look that up, or oh, you could just figure that out on yourself, or actually, that's just like that person's question. So you could probably use this answer. Not allowing myself permission in a space where I was allowed to be curious. So I love that you gave us an assignment because I do think it's kind of hard to be curious when you're an adult. It's easy when you're a kid, and then somewhere along the way, your crazy curious questions can get annoying to someone, or maybe get shut down, or maybe some reason you don't feel like you can ask us anymore. So, are there other curious questions we can lovingly ask ourselves?Jamie Lerner 9:19  It's all curiosity, and it's all for yourself and about yourself. So, really, there is no judgment whatsoever.Lesley Logan 9:29  What about the people who have the habit of being so judgy? You know what I mean? Jamie Lerner 9:32  They're just all disconnected. So, when you notice that you're being judgmental of another, it's really good to laugh because you understand that you're just projecting how you feel about yourself on another, which means you're disconnected, and so you know you could be laughing all day in a lovingly curious way, just kind of catching yourself and being, oh yeah, here I go again. Jamie, I'm gonna think about you every time I catch myself in judgment of another because it's true. You it is always the thing that you don't like about yourself, but you're doing on them, and because it's interesting, right? Because you can you can have the consciousness that that's what you're doing because now you're aware, but then what do you what do you interrupt the thought with? This is the first time. This is the first time anyone's ever giving me that. But it's great because you're laughing with yourself all day long with yourself, not at yourself, and that becomes an observation of how often you're disconnected in a moment, and then knowing that in the next moment, just the realization and laughter allows you to reconnect with yourself. So there's really no time to judge yourself for judging others. It's just among them.Lesley Logan 10:50  Oh my goodness. Okay. Well, my mind is blown for the third time already. So early on this podcast, Jamie, you mentioned the journey to getting to being this person to help people because first you were a psychotherapist and now this now you're this well-being coach. We all know life isn't linear and there's all these little obstacles along the way. Can you talk about kind of any Be It Till You See It moments for yourself on how you could? I'm sure there's people that were wondering why are you switching this amazing career that you went to school for. I'm sure there's these different things and how did you kind of handle that or navigate that?Jamie Lerner 11:23  Well, I was born with the knowing, and I knew that from the moment I was born, and I never turned away from the knowing. So I always heard and continue to always hear my own voice, and I believe that other people felt that way too, because I think that that was my natural state of well-being. My issues were with my mom, who I did not have an emotional connection with at all. It was perplexing to me. How could I be so connected to myself and have no connection with her? But when I went to school for psychology, and then decided I was going to do private practice. It was about psychotherapy and asking people to look back. And I realized looking back is not helping anyone move forward. As a matter of fact, it becomes the very excuse why they don't move forward. And I realized, like, this doesn't feel good to me. I cannot continue to assist people in what I feel is just not feeling good. So I gave it up, and I studied, and I traveled. But mostly, I looked within myself and realized that my superpower is the connection I have with myself and taking personal responsibility. And I think that that's everybody's superpower. However, it's a hard sell. People want to do anything but take personal responsibility. Lesley Logan 12:49  Yeah, they will. They will because I will talk to people about a dream schedule or just your ideal schedule because that's going to have you as a priority in it, and they'll come up with every excuse why that can't happen. My kid, this, my mom needs this. My dog is special needs, and all all the things, right? And okay, but at some point, you have to take responsibility for those things so that you can either change it, or you're just gonna live. You can keep living like this, and then don't come and complain to me in this moment that you're doing. Jamie Lerner 13:20  Well, we live in this victim mentality society, and we get rewarded for being the victim, especially for women. You know, we get rewarded for putting ourselves last, being overworked, because we have all these other things that are so much more important. And I really feel like we hide behind that because we don't know how to include ourselves in self-care or giving ourselves permission to make time to do things that we really would like to be doing for ourselves, to nurture ourselves, to nourish ourselves so that we can care for others.Lesley Logan 13:52  Yeah.Jamie Lerner 13:52  Once again, the permission goes a long way.Lesley Logan 13:55  Yeah. You know, you bring up something interesting: the nourishment of ourselves with society out there telling every person how they're supposed to look and what they're supposed to be doing, we have this. I thought we were past it, Jamie. I really thought we got we thought we got past it, but now we've got these girls wasting away again. And it's if you are not nourishing yourself, you cannot be connected to yourself. You cannot have inner knowing because your brain is your brain and body are tired. They cannot function. They're in survival states, right? We have to nourishing ourselves as is is is mind-body, but really, like you still got to nourish the body's fuel, so you can connect, right?Jamie Lerner 14:29  Well, this is true, and we don't have to do it, but it is a really nice option. And I think that when we make our own schedules based on our own needs, that we can offer so much more to others because we know what we need for ourselves first and foremost. And if you don't nourish yourself, it's really impossible to assist others because you feel resentful, and that doesn't feel good to other people or to you.Lesley Logan 14:55  I couldn't agree more, Jamie. I have, I don't have children, so when I tell people. And women, because mostly it's I'm here to help. That's my, my. I know it's a calling, is giving them permission to prioritize themselves first. And they're, well, you don't have a child, you don't have children. And I was, okay. You are correct, but I don't. You think you want your kid to have someone who has stamina, energy, endurance to have generous love and excitement around them, not tired, exhausted, resentful of because that's going to happen if you are not nourished. Whatever nourishment is, maybe it's a sleep, maybe it's a movement practice. If you are not that, at some point it's going to be you'll be resentful, you'll be jealous.Jamie Lerner 15:36  But I'm sure the people think you don't, you just don't understand. Lesley Logan 15:39  I don't get I don't get it. You're correct, Amy. I don't get it. Jamie Lerner 15:42  I mean, you do get it, but that is their excuse why they're not gonna do it. Lesley Logan 15:49  Uh huh. Yeah. No. They and and I and I will. I can say. I. You're correct. I don't get your life, but I don't even know that I get a life of another person who doesn't have children either. But I can say, we all all have needs, every single one of us, and whether you have kids or not, you do have to put yourself in that position to take care of yourself. And I do think people have taken. I actually think maybe you know this, Jamie, more than most. I think people are have such a habit of not listening and knowing themselves and taking care of themselves that they wouldn't even know what to do if we gave them the day off to do it?Jamie Lerner 16:23  Well, first of all, we don't need the day off.Lesley Logan 16:25  Okay great. Jamie Lerner 16:27  It can be 10 minutes every day to get tuned back into yourself. We all can get back there, and it doesn't have to take a lot. It doesn't even have to take a conscious wanting to.Lesley Logan 16:39  Great, even better, Jamie, because. Jamie Lerner 16:41  Yeah, just little moments here and there. Because to say it can happen feels overwhelming for people who don't even know where to start.Lesley Logan 16:52  Right. So if they're going to start with 10 minutes, what do you suggest they start with? Because I do recall. I remember during the pandemic, I feel like I'm operating in a place of stress, and I actually don't need to be doing that right now. I have all the money, I have a plan, I have all the things. I know what I want to do. So, what would I be doing if I wasn't stressed out? You know, and I had to actually go, "I don't even know," and I had to think about writing out all the things I could be doing. And I do I even want to do these things? So that's how I figured out. But I don't know what what would you say some for someone who's so far away from their knowing, and what would make them feel good. What do they do in those 10 minutes? Jamie Lerner 17:29  Well, to sit with yourself is a really nice thing to do, and quiet your mind, and understand that the things that you think about yourself, you would never think about and say to another person. We're very unkind and cruel to ourselves to the point where here we go again is laughter because it's so ridiculous and not true. So it's that little bit of awareness, and then the question is enough. You don't have to have the answer, but just the ongoing series of questions that are lovingly curious to yourself about yourself without the pressure of an answer. It feels good. There's no. It doesn't have to even make sense, but it's kind of moment by moment, and then all of a sudden you realize you do know, you absolutely know, yeah, and then not share it with another because that's where it just goes.Lesley Logan 18:23  Oh, yeah! I guess that's true. I think that's so interesting, right? I love the idea of just you're saying just sit down, just be still, just quiet your mind. Do I need a journal? All these. Lesley, can you just sit with yourself becauseJamie Lerner 18:35  Sit with some coffee, you know?Lesley Logan 18:37  Right, because it's going back to that almost like a boredom. We're so used to entertaining ourselves at a red light. People are scrolling because they can't even sit with themselves at a red light. You know, they have to be doing something. And so the idea of just sitting with yourself and asking the question and opening the loop in the brain because you're right, it's in there.Jamie Lerner 18:59  It's absolutely in there.Lesley Logan 19:01  So, how the people who I and I want to highlight: don't go tell people. And I think people find that harsh and weird, but like they're keeping a secret. But the reality is, is like a lot of us have people in our lives who are afraid any knowing of ourselves might change how their relationship with us. That's not what they consciously think. I think, but I know that's what it's kind of happening. So then they put doubts and fears in our minds, or they question it because they don't get it. Jamie Lerner 19:27  But it's not for them to get, and that's the whole point. This is all for you about you, and it has nothing to do with another person, no matter if it's a husband or a child. Or this is only for you. Your chance to reconnect with your inner knowing, inner being, which is your birthright, and it's all there. But it's really not for another, and it's never about another. If you are feeling upset about something, it's not about another. And you know, have questions about that? What are you feeling upset about? It's not your friend. It's it's never about another, and that's really hard for people to understand. Lesley Logan 20:11  It is hard, Jamie, because then they can't blame how their bad day was on someone else. Well, they could, they could, but what what I'm saying is absolutely not true, and it's not even possible. People don't have that much power that we give them to excuse ourselves from connecting, which is what we do. We give people power that they don't even have. Oh my gosh! Do we learn that from our parents? Do we learn that from modeling? Do we learn that from you know what I mean? Because I watch. I have a niece and some nephews, and they watch them and how they see the world. And you're just look at that, and you're just, I hope that never changes. You're like, well, somehow along the way, it's gonna. And so, and then you see people who are adults who are just going for it. Wow, you no one stopped that light, or maybe, or and they overcame it. But do do you think it's learned from if a if a parent (inaudible).Jamie Lerner 21:01  I think it doesn't matter, and I think the most important thing is to let everyone off the hook. It really doesn't matter where it came from, and it's all around us all the time. But you start to feel really good when you are able to have these inner conversations with yourself about yourself, and really feel like you know who you are because you do. Once again, you are your own greatest resource. Nobody else knows for you, even though you, not meaning you, but the people that feel like they don't know for themselves are the very people telling everybody else what to do.Lesley Logan 21:38  They are.Jamie Lerner 21:39  Okay, but do you know what to do yourself? No, you just are going to tell everyone else what to do. Well, you don't know those other people. Yeah, I mean, it's you got to laugh, and it's laughable in a good way. You're not mocking yourself or judging yourself. You're just becoming very curious, and as we become curious about ourselves, it lightens the whole topic.Lesley Logan 22:04  I okay. I love that you said it doesn't even matter where it comes from because that goes back. It doesn't matter what's in the back. We don't need that. We actually just have to move forward and give ourselves permission to have this loving curiosity. And I do love the laughter thing. This is a slightly different topic, but I think we can go here. I have this wonderful group of women come on a retreat to my house in Cambodia, and within I don't know two hours of us hanging out, I'd heard "I'm sorry" so many times. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. And I was, okay. We have to stop saying "I'm sorry." I can't do seven weekdays of "I'm sorry." You, there's nothing to be sorry about. You are allowed to be here. You're allowed. So we are just gonna so I we started screaming at each other anytime someone said "I'm sorry," we started screaming, "Not helpful!" So it's like, it's like laughing. You have to laugh at it because it was, you have to break the thing. You didn't mean to trip on her. You could say excuse me, but I'm, you're not, you don't have to be sorry. You know, it's like this weird habit that we have, just because in the apologizing for taking up space, you know, which makes it harder for you to have loving curiosity because you don't feel like you even should be here.Jamie Lerner 23:09  Yes, and I think that's so helpful that when you are all together, you say something that interrupts that belief or that pattern, or you know, and I think mostly it's just you don't even know you're saying I'm sorry. Yeah.Lesley Logan 23:26  So it's like a great, great interruption. Yeah, I think I like it better than the laugh. I like the laughter for the other things. I can laugh to myself because I do. I do think that that's a great pattern interrupt, and I just want to laugh at other people. So I I'm glad you like that. So, you know, it's interesting, right? I'm thinking about some of the different people who have listened this podcast for a long time. People are in my life who are kind of stuck launching. It's interesting, right? Because we never want to tell people they should stop learning, but also there's they're always signing up for another thing, and that's the thing that's going to do it. And so, I guess, how do you know that what you keep doing is actually taking you and launching you versus keeping you in in where you are? You know, I don't know if that question makes sense at all. Jamie Lerner 24:08  Yes, and and I think that that alignment is so important. So thoughts and feelings is one, and when we're in alignment with something, then it feels effortless, and it's something that we are really feel inspired by, and it's the feeling of being inspired because you are being inner-led back to yourself about something that you feel really passionate about or really good about, and you haven't discussed with another, and then it feels effortless. It's not something that you have to force. It's not something that you have to seek. You just know, and then you take inspired action.Lesley Logan 24:53  Oh, it's so interesting, Jamie, that you say all those things. So that's true. It's like those things where you, wow, that just kind of fell into place. We have those things that just fall into place versus those things. Why can't I get this thing going? Or why don't I want? Why am I not signing up for that thing? It's probably you don't want to do the thing.Jamie Lerner 25:10  That's just called resistance. So you know, and at that point, you realize that it's good to just excuse yourself from it and step back until you can get into alignment with what it is that you think that you want to take action about.Lesley Logan 25:25  What do you do if getting to alignment feels like the biggest life change that you're not necessarily ready to make? I'll say I'm thinking of a couple listeners, but I'll just use my own self as an example. I remember in 2011, 2012, having the thought, like, I need to get out of the relationship I was in. Well, to do that meant I need a new apartment. I'm gonna pay more rent. I have all these different things, and so I knew the alignment shift I needed to make. But it felt scary and overwhelming, and almost like I didn't have the right tools. And so I had the excuse of going, "Well, I don't have the money, and it's not that bad, and I'll just figure it out. Do you know what I mean?" There's a lot of people who can feel that they're out of alignment, but getting to alignment just feels you're blowing your life up.Jamie Lerner 26:06  So, what actually happened that allowed you to shift?Lesley Logan 26:10  I think what actually happened allowed me to shift is a bit more time recognizing the resources that I had. I had to see that. That was the opportunity. I got into a place. I was, "Oh, I actually can't afford to do this."Jamie Lerner 26:23  Then when that came to be for you, was it easy to shift out of the relationship?Lesley Logan 26:29  Yeah, I mean, and also I'll say is things blew up all around me. People listen my podcast. It was that time I ended up in a car accident, so my car was totaled, and then the studio I rented from everything. They were like, "We're no longer going to be here." So I have to find a new place to work and a new place to live and a new car. And I actually did it with laughter, and it actually all just fell into place just fine. Jamie Lerner 26:53  Because there was no more resistance. Lesley Logan 26:54  Yeah, thank God. I mean, I don't know if I would have done that if it had happened while I was still with the person, but it happened after I made this decision, and I was, "Well, I guess this is how it's gonna go." So yeah.Jamie Lerner 27:04  So I love procrastination. I think procrastination is our friend because it gives us time to get into alignment with the task at hand. And so if someone asks me to do something and it just doesn't feel right to me, I usually say to them, "Let me think about that and get back to you." And then until I'm really ready, going back and forth could be moment by moment, day by day, to either excuse myself from the request or to really feel like, okay, I can do this. I don't commit to anything, and I think that that is really important because when we do make decisions based on what people's expectations are of us, it's not a good outcome. But when we're in a place where it just feels right, always a good outcome. So take your time. All you have is time.Lesley Logan 27:59  Wow. Well, Jamie, you make it seem like it's so easy, and the rest of us over here making it too hard. Why do we do that?Jamie Lerner 28:06  Because a lot of this stuff is common sense, and it is too easy. And women, especially, make it overly complicated because we have need to make everything overly complicated. Yeah.Lesley Logan 28:18  Well, why do we need to? We probably don't need to. We think we do.Jamie Lerner 28:22  We don't need to. But we, I would say, we unconsciously choose to.Lesley Logan 28:30  It probably goes back to, I don't know. Maybe it goes back to the feeling of worthiness and deserving, right? Because sometimes that alignment means taking up more space than you have before, or making bold moves, and so then you have to overly complicate it to have this reason of why you're going to do it. I had to people when I left my partner like why, and I was, "Oh, I didn't realize people were going to ask why. I guess I should have seen that coming," and I didn't have. I—it just wasn't. We just weren't right for each other, and that was not a good enough excuse for anyone. "Did he cheat?" No. "Did you fight?" Not a lot. I just didn't have it. So I think sometimes we think it needs to be complicated, and then we so therefore we make it complicated.Jamie Lerner 29:12  This is absolutely true. But when you're just connected to yourself, you just know, and so you don't need to consult other people. And if someone asks a question and you feel so good about saying it just didn't feel right because it didn't feel right, there are no more questions after that. So when you know for yourself, you just know, and you don't attract the answers that you would get otherwise, or the questions, no one says anything because you're so clear about what you're doing, and you're not asking them for their opinion or commentary. So if you get that, you could just say, "Well, thank you so much, and now I'm going to excuse myself."Lesley Logan 29:56  Jamie, you paint this. You make it, not that life is easy, but you make it sound like if we could just be in our knowing and alignment, we could have a much easier.Jamie Lerner 30:11  Yes, life would be so fun, and then we could create anything for ourselves and we could be in relationships with people that were unconditional, and I mean, I have friends. I know they're late all the time, and I choose to go to lunch with them, knowing that they're going to be late, and I'm on time or early all the time. But you know, at a certain point, if it bothers me, then I don't go to lunch with them anymore. But am I going to be upset with who they are? I don't think so. They're consistently who they are, and I am who I am, and that's a nice place to meet people where they are, allowing them to be who they are feels good.Lesley Logan 30:49  It does feel good, and it's, so, I actually have found because I used to have clients who are late all the time, and they'd always apologize, and I just go, "Here's a deal: you pay for this time to this time. There's someone before you. There's someone after you. So I'm just going to do my thing. Don't apologize to me anymore because I don't want to hear it. And if you only want the 45 minutes, then that's all you want, and so you don't even have to apologize to yourself. But if you want more, you can ask yourself why you're so late all the time. But that's on you to figure it out." And you know what? Some people were just stayed late because that's all they wanted.Jamie Lerner 31:18  That's who they are. Yeah, not even like that. Just people who are late are late everywhere they go.Lesley Logan 31:24  Yeah.Jamie Lerner 31:25  For everything. It's not just for you or your class, and that's okay.Lesley Logan 31:29  Yeah. Well, and that's just to your point. It was that's what you want, and so I don't feel anything towards you, and so you don't have to worry about—you don't have to apologize because I don't feel like I'm gonna have 15 minutes every single time I have you on my calendar to catch up. Jamie Lerner 31:43  So in my other life, my husband would make coffee in an espresso maker, and he—I put the cup there, I start the machine, I turn around, and there before it's even finished or a full cup, he'd pull the cup out, and I'd be like, "Why are you cheating yourself?" And he, "What are you talking about? Why are you cheating yourself out of a full cup of coffee? Why?" And he was, "I don't know." But you know, to frame it that way is true. But he didn't really see it like that. He just saw he didn't feel like waiting. He was impatient, but actually cheating himself out of full cup of coffee. Lesley Logan 32:23  Yeah, well, and that's, and to your point, even if that's not how they see it, or if that's how they're always late, it doesn't have to be my responsibility to fix that. We just get to focus on ourselves.Jamie Lerner 32:37  I think that is always the best thing. Yes.Lesley Logan 32:40  Jamie, can we do that without being narcissists, though? Jamie Lerner 32:43  That is not, narcissists are completely disconnected from themselves. Okay, there's no connection at all. And narcissism is something that affects so many other people. You taking care of yourself and being clear with what you want and who you are, it doesn't affect anyone because the clarity in itself is such a relief for people. Yeah, it really is. You show up differently. You show up in such a way where you're so comfortable in your own skin that it allows people to just take a breath and relax. There's no judgment. There's no expectation. It just, it feels good to be around people who are not in their ego and are just comfortable with themselves.Lesley Logan 33:29  Yeah, I agree. I know those people, and I love being around them. And there's the people who are not like that. And you're like, "I have to close off my energy box because I.Jamie Lerner 33:36  But you don't because you're not affected by them. You understand that that's just who they are, and that is absolutely okay. And to think that everybody wants what you have is a big mistake. Most people don't want it. They don't want anything to do with being connected and happy, and they just don't. And that's okay. And we have to allow those people to just be who they are. I mean, it's okay. Lesley Logan 34:02  Oh, Jamie. Well, that's a whole other topic, but yes, we do, and also because focusing on them would take us out of...Jamie Lerner 34:10  alignment and out of connection. Lesley Logan 34:12  Yes. Yeah. Okay. So, for the people who are worried that people are going to think they're selfish for taking the time, because you know they have the people in their lives who are going to tell them, "Oh, if you've changed, you feel more selfish now because you're not selfish. You just are more aligned, which means you've probably changed how you engage with them or the time you give them. They'll be babies. They'll be baby connected, baby knowing people. So how do they handle that? Because you mentioned, like, you'll be so sure, and it's just going to be like that. But I just, oh, but there's that. You're like a new baby bird with your knowing and your alignment. How do we help them if someone tries to take it away with that selfish?Jamie Lerner 34:50  Well, it's just the opposite because when we nourish and nurture ourselves, we are more available to all others, whether it's vibration, physically, emotionally, because we have nourished ourselves, we have connected with ourselves, and then our ability to give is unconditional. We are more present with other people, and to be more present with other people, some of those people get uncomfortable. They are not used to being with someone who's so present, but it's a lovely feeling. It's almost like you can be with someone and not say a word, but you can feel them, and it feels good. And that is true connection with self and others.Lesley Logan 35:36  Oh gosh, Jamie, I feel like this took like a master class.Jamie Lerner 35:42  All these things are so simple.Lesley Logan 35:44  Yeah.Jamie Lerner 35:45  I mean, these are so many basic things.Lesley Logan 35:50  I mean, that's the thing, right? Because in the world we live in today with social media, they're going to give you the 17-point journal with the addendum, and then the three-hour workshop with the 152 calls, and so people are told it's supposed to be hard, but it's, you're making it...Jamie Lerner 36:07  be fun and easy and quick, very quick. I mean, for me, my most successful clients are the ones that I don't need to be there to assist them anymore. They got it, and you know what? They do got it.Lesley Logan 36:25  Yeah, yeah. And we can all get it. We can just just. Jamie Lerner 36:29  We want it.Lesley Logan 36:29  Yeah. Okay. Well, hat's the key. Well, that's just it, right? You have to. I think it's. I've read something about any change you want to make. You have to want it and believe it, and then commit to it, and so it's you got to actually do the thing.Jamie Lerner 36:45  But we don't have to commit to it.Lesley Logan 36:47  Okay.Jamie Lerner 36:47  We could just do moment by moment. Commitment is too much. It's too intimidating. It feels impossible. Yeah, just to have some kind of recognition of where you're at with yourself, moment by moment, and then it's the next moment. Maybe today wasn't a good day to connect with yourself, but maybe tomorrow will be better to be more forgiving of ourselves, to be more allowing of ourselves, to give ourselves more grace, let ourselves off the hook, but not let ourselves off the hook because we're blaming someone else. Those are two separate things.Lesley Logan 37:25  Right. I, okay, well, you've just blown the recovering perfectionist mindset. You can actually just want it and then have it and have it in the moment. And there could be a bad day, and you can just take yourself responsibility, and then you can just try again tomorrow or in another moment.Jamie Lerner 37:43  Right. Right? And there's no punishment for it. There's no perfection. It's just a moment, and then the next moment. And sometimes I'll allow myself to go down the rabbit hole. I'll say to myself, "Is this thought serving me? No. Am I going there? Yes, I am, because for whatever reason I need to do this. Okay." And then I can see clearly. I'm okay now. I can pull myself out of the rabbit hole, and on some level that was very satisfying. But do I need to do it tomorrow? No.Lesley Logan 38:15  Jamie. Thank you for that. Because I'm, wow, I don't have to be a monk either. I can just, I can entertain the rabbit hole, but I love what you did. Acknowledge that's what you're doing, ask yourself if you need it, and then go past, get past it. No judgment on it.Jamie Lerner 38:33  (inaudible) is to blame someone else for sending you down the rabbit hole.Lesley Logan 38:37  God, yeah. Well, yes. So I'm taking away from this just the sitting still, that's for sure, and then also it's not about, I'm not going to blame the email that came at the wrong time or the person who didn't do the thing I told them. None of that. It's all my own responsibility and the kindness to myself. Because of that, I will continue to show up differently, and people will be affected by that in a positive way around that. And then if something, if they, if I went down a rabbit hole, I cannot blame that it was this person. I have to go, "I took myself down the rabbit hole."Jamie Lerner 39:09  Yes, and that feels good. It's too good to be responsible for yourself, to have personal responsibility. I love to be wrong. I love when I'm wrong. I do, because I get to learn something about myself. So when I am wrong, I am the first person to raise my hand and say, "You know what? I was wrong." And I am really in this moment learning something about myself, and that's fantastic.Lesley Logan 39:33  So cool, Jamie! You're so cool. I could talk to you forever. I feel like we need to listen to your words just a few more times. You know, so we're gonna take a brief break and find out what people can find you, follow you, work with you. Because, you know, I think a few of us might need more than one time hearing this. All right, Jamie, where can they do you? Do you do coaching? Do you have sessions? Do you have a book? Like, where can they get your information support? Jamie Lerner 40:00  I have a website. It's www.jamie-lerner.com and everything is on there. And it's all so clear that there's not one single question anyone needs to ask me about how you pay, what happens if you, I mean, it's all there. And I have a great service called The Quickie, a lovely texting option, which is my favorite service of all, and I came out with it before COVID, and it worked perfectly because people had to move in with each other. Some people had to move home. There was no privacy, but you just buy a package of time and you text with me, and I text back with you, and lo and behold, you realize you knew the answer the whole time, but it's a great service. It's a book. It's old, but it's not old. It's really timeless, and it's available on Amazon. And it's called "The Ever Loving Essence of You" and it's just a very nice resource for yourself about yourself.Lesley Logan 41:04  I love this. I love that. I love the, what a genius idea of the texting because it's such a quick hit and a quick reminder, and you can do it in a moment, and you don't have to set up a call because by the time the call comes around, I forgot why I wanted the call.Jamie Lerner 41:19  And the other thing is too, people talk about how they feel in the moment, but the next moment they don't even remember. After texting, they can go back and read how they felt and what they thought, and then they realize, like, yeah, I really knew this all along.Lesley Logan 41:35  What a service. Jamie Lerner 41:36  It is good, very self-empowering for people.Lesley Logan 41:39  I love that you are a gem. You have given us, by the way, we could just tell people go back and listen. But I do love my bold, executable, intrinsic, or targeted steps people can take to be it till they see it. What tips do you have for us?Jamie Lerner 41:53  Know yourself, love yourself, trust yourself, and laugh along with yourself.Lesley Logan 42:01  Great. Yeah, great. This is a repeater. I think this is just a really nice go back and be reminded because I feel for the first time you've made knowing yourself a little less complicated, and we don't have to set aside 17 minutes to go through a journal that's got side five questions. You could just take a dose of time and sit still with yourself. And we have moments where we can do that throughout any day, even a busy one. Jamie, thank you so much. You guys, you better send this to a friend who needs to hear it. Because if you know yourself and they know yourself, imagine all of the gifts that is going to be in the time you spend with the people around you. So please share this. Tell Jamie Lerner what your favorite part was. Tag the Be It Pod. Let us know. And until next time, well, get to know yourself and then Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 42:49  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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Host Cynthia Bemis Abrams speaks with Caroline Heldman, PhD, about the power of media to shape cultural change and the political imagination. They explore how television, streaming, film, advertising, social media, and AI influence who audiences see as leaders, experts, protagonists, and decision-makers.Heldman explains her work developing "The Scully Effect" as it related to representation of women in STEM fields. Further, she stresses the importance of both quantitative and qualitative representation, the impact of inclusive storytelling on career aspirations, and continuing gaps affecting women, people of colour, LGBTQIA+ people and those of differing physical abilities and size.Resources noted:The Geena Davis Institute for Gender in Media — Research and practical resources for representation in entertainment and advertising, including the “Be It, See It” message. https://geenadavisinstitute.org/Stacy Smith at USC — Professor and Founder of the Annenberg Inclusion Initiative https://an nenberg.usc.edu/faculty/stacy-l-smithDr. Martha Lauzen at SDSU — Media representation research.Common Sense Media — Media research and guidance for families and educators. https://about.commonsensemedia.org/Caroline Heldman's forthcoming book — The Presidential Gender Penalty: From Victoria Woodhull to Kamala Harris. https://www.bloomsbury.com/ca/presidential-gender-penalty-9798216392248/Advanced TV Herstory episodes mentioned:1.10 (2015) Hill Street Blues' Davenport & Bates https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/1c37565a-dcb6-4b5a-833c-a877c306c407.mp3CONNECT WITH CYNTHIA and ADVANCED TV HERSTORYMonthly Newsletter - https://cynthiabemisabrams.com/Website - https://cynthiabemisabrams.com/Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/advancedtvherstory/YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@advancedtvherstoryLinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/cynthia-bemis-abrams-5046573/PRODUCTIONPodcast Editing - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mariloumarosz/Video Editing - https://nivialopez.com/Music by Jahzzar - https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Jahzzar/TIMESTAMPS[00:37] Introduction: Caroline Heldman, PhD[03:47] Representation of women, girls, and others[06:17] The Scully Effect[09:34] Research and resources on inclusivity in media[11:43] Quantity and quality of representation[14:12] Representation of race[16:43] The impact of AI and social media[21:51] Statistics on porn and AI[27:11] Federal and state legislation[30:06] Change, social movements, and double standards[33:40] A backlash to progress[36:02] Influential TV women[38:49] Upcoming book: Presidential Gender Penalty

Part one of the comparison series exposed how fast somebody else's goals become your own. Part two is where you take them back. Lesley Logan makes the case that a standard set by your parents, social media, or a season you already left will always feel like falling short, no matter how much you get done. If you have ever hit the goal and still felt behind, this episode will help you build a definition of success that holds up even on a hard day.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:The one word swap that changes what you chase all day.How your season should set a fairer standard for success.What burnout reveals about your current metric.Three to five values that make your day easy to score.The old measure of success to retire this week.Episode References/Links:Ep 610 ft Amy Ledin - https://beitpod.com/ep610James Clear's 30 Core Values List – https://jamesclear.com/core-valuesSubmit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questions If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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Peace, love, true success is something that you're going to define. But also, we got to get there with a regulated nervous system. We can't be an exhausted, burnt out shell of ourselves.Lesley Logan 0:16  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:58  Hi, Be It babe. Welcome back to our series on comparison, comparisonitis. All right. So last episode, a couple days ago, we exposed our the borrowed scoreboards. We basically talked about how we often are using what our parents or our family or societal expectations are as our scoreboards, whether or not we're good enough person and we've had success. We often are trying to do old life stuff with new life stuff. Sometimes we've even borrowed other people's goals, thinking that that sounds good. I see a lot in business coaching that I do. People are doing something in their studio, and so someone else thinks they have to do it, and then they get stressed out and frustrated by it. But it's, well, that's not part of your business plan. So why did you think if you do it? Well, everyone's doing it. No, they are doing it. Not everyone is doing it. Everybody, there's a lot of reformer students out there. You don't see me thinking that that's a good idea. So, not that it's not, but it's not for me, right? So, and I'm very clear on that. So, I want you to have some that same sort of conviction when it comes to who you are and who you want to become and how you're going to get there. And it's not going to be by using other people's scoreboards and social media's expectations and societal pressures to be something else, because then you're just going to be what they want you to be, right? Lesley Logan 2:07  I remember hearing this this line. Oh my God, it would have been like 2011, yeah, 11, and it was if you don't have goals that are clear and your goals, somebody else's goals will become your own. You will be working on towards something. It's either what you want to do or what someone else wants to do. Now, here's the deal: there are some people who love to be a backup babe. That's but that's not what I'm talking about here, right? We're talking about the person you want to become. So, we also in the last episode had some questions you did some homework on. Please make sure you've listened to that episode before coming to this one, because we are going to shift our focus from what looks good on paper to what actually feels sustainable. Some people might even think peaceful or useful, but mostly aligned for you right now. So I really hate the question, and I get it all the time. But what is your definition of success? And I'm really proud to say this. I feel very successful right now. Based on my definition of success, I am successful. I am kicking ass. I'm doing great things.Lesley Logan 3:09  Now that being said, I'm not done, but I think it's important that you are aware that if you are working towards the person you want to become in your way, and it's very clear, and you're using your own scoreboard, then at the end of this episode, you should be patting yourself on the back. You're very successful, right? But you have to know what success means to you. For me, it is doing the things that I want to do based on the impact I want to have, and prioritizing myself while I do that means I'm in control of my schedule and who and what I say yes or no to.Lesley Logan 3:35  And when I am out of that alignment, when I feel like I'm working on someone else's timeline or someone else's schedule, then I feel icky and gross, and I have to get back in alignment with my definition of success. But in this moment, majority of the time, I am very much a very successful person. So I need you to understand that for yourself. So go back to the last episode and do those questions if you haven't already.Lesley Logan 3:57  So first thing we're going to focus on in this episode is the more versus better. So I want you when you are in comparisonitis, or when you're working, when you're putting pressure on yourself to do more. I just need more clients, or I need more time to work out, or I need more of this, or more visibility, or I just need more sit, whatever, blah blah blah. Whenever you hear yourself saying more, I actually want you to pivot it to better. What would be a better client, a better night's sleep, a better fuel source, a better friendship, a better way of taking care of yourself? Not more, right? So instead of more clients, like better clients, instead of more set, it's it's deep relationships instead of more room. It is more spaciousness in my schedule, right? It is better scheduling, better time, better tools and resources.Lesley Logan 4:52  So replacing more with better, and I think this is really important, right? Because I think we all start to accumulate and we get on this thing and we end up with a bunch of gray shirts because I need more T-shirts. So then you buy some T-shirts and you get more ads for T-shirts, and so you buy more T-shirts and all of a sudden all the T-shirts show up and you whoa! I bought this. I bought a bunch of gray T-shirts. No, that didn't happen to you. I'm the only one who clicks a couple ads and forgot what I did the day before. Yeah, I didn't think so. So really, it's no. I need better quality T-shirts that actually look good after they are washed and look good on me, not just more of them, better ones, right? I know that we're talking about success, and I'm talking about T-shirts, but sometimes it's the easier example to use.Lesley Logan 5:29  And one of my girlfriends, we talk about this a lot. You know, I've been doing what I've been doing for a long time, so I get asked to do things all the time, and I don't need more big events. I need better ones. So when I am asked, invited, I am very intentional. Who is going to be at this thing? Is this an audience I haven't had access to yet? Is this a way that I can support and make my impact even bigger so that I am not just doing more of the same thing, but I'm doing it better? Got it? I think we got it. Lesley Logan 6:01  All right. The next thing is redefining success by your season and your nervous system. So Brad Bizjack has this really cool thing that we all have the same seasons that are in the universe on this earth. We also have those seasons in our life. We have winter, spring, summer, fall. In fall, what do you do? You harvest. It's a harvesting season, right? In the winter, you cocoon in, you, bears sleep. Right, they hibernate, and then in the spring you're planting seeds and really making sure you set yourself up. In the summer you're vacationing. Right, so what is success by the season that you're in, and then also how does that feel? Because it is not success to me if you arrive at the destination of your goal and you're burnt out and you have anxiety and you don't want to do it anymore. Lesley Logan 6:52  I've coached a lot of people in Agency who like tell me they want this thing, they go and get this thing, and then they're not happy, and it's really hard. We not go, why can't you just be happy? Like that you you got what you wanted, and all you're doing is finding other things that are wrong in that place. You know, they make big moves because they said that's what they wanted.Lesley Logan 7:09  They make the big move, and then they are finding bad things over there because there's bad things fucking everywhere, right? But understanding the season that you're in, and then defining the success for that. So if you are, I have a friend who's cocooning right now, and she apologized for something, and I was like, "Well, you are in hibernation. Why are you apologizing for not being able to talk? If you are bare in hibernation, we wouldn't be talking, right? And so I think it's just really, really important that you give yourself permission to be in the season that you're in, and then have a success definition for yourself.Lesley Logan 7:44  If you are in winter season, not literally necessarily, but mentally, emotionally, goal drivenness wise, you are hibernating. You've harvested. You've just done a lot of work. Then you actually cannot put yourself in a comparison place being in a spring. Cannot do that. You have to hibernate. So, what does hibernation mean to you? What does winter mean to you? If you're in spring in your life, then what do you want to get done in that season so that after your summer you can harvest? What does that look like? Does that look like educating yourself more on something, doing research? Does it look like planting some big seeds? What does that look like? What does that season look like? And then creating a definition of success for you that also allows you to feel safe in your body and get good sleep. You got to get good sleep. Cannot be successful tired. You will die. And the last thing is a practical execution because you know I don't like just good, fun, quippy sayings and inspiration if you can't take action on it. Hello, it is the be it. It's in the be it.Lesley Logan 8:52  So I need you to have practical execution. So I want you to choose three to five core values, and to measure your days by. I guess you have five, but you have to remember them all, so that you're not relying on vibes or external validation or accolades from other people. I want it to be something you can do this by, right? We've had different guests on who've talked about how at the end of the day they see, like, recap their day to see if they got 1% better. We have some people like Amy Ledin has her cards and she looks at what she did. Did she do the things that was on her card, but and those are great. Like that's kind of it. So you want to have three to five core values that you want to live by each and every day, and then you want to measure your days by that.Lesley Logan 9:30  So if you say that you have a value of integrity, and you look at your day, and you actually did something that was out of integrity for you, then it's not a time to shame yourself. It's a time to understand. Oh, okay. How can I change that tomorrow? So I'm back in integrity. If you have a value of authenticity, but you found yourself doing things and picking colors based on someone else's branding or pictures or whatever, that is not very authentic, is it? So if authenticity is one of your values, and you look at your day and you realize, wow, you were invited to do something. It would not be authentic for you to say yes to that thing, and you said no. Holy fuck, can you score yourself so high that day, right?Lesley Logan 10:09  If being integrity is actually doing the thing that you said you would do, and even though there's all these different things that were trying to get to you, but you did the thing that you said you're going to do, even if you feel so tired, you can go, but I did it. I did the thing I said, and I didn't go out of integrity. And yes, life lifed, and I blah blah blah. But I was in integrity, right? So there's just different. I think we just have to be kinder to ourselves, and we can only be kind if we're actually aware of how the rubric that we're scoring ourselves off of. So three to five core values.Lesley Logan 10:37  If you don't have, if you don't know what your core values are, there's oh my gosh! There's a really good. Just Google 30 core values. Okay, I think James Spark has a sheet on the internet, and you can take a look at this list. Okay, I mean you could just pick the three to five that really stand out to you. Sometimes you'll pick two that are the same. I would actually say and have an integrity and authenticity could be layered, and one of them might be more the word that you're looking for by the definition that you're using, but having core values is good. And if you, I don't know how to pick them. I was like 10 words that I like.Lesley Logan 11:08  Okay, so then this is what you do: you take your Be It Till You See It life, who you want to be, right? And you are gonna write down things that people say about that person, the version of you you want to be, and then you're going to write down three things you achieved as that person. Write that down. Then I want you to look at the core value list, and I want you to apply a core value to the things people said about the Be It Till You See It version of you and the wins you had when you got to that success. And you will see, oh whoa, these are the things that mean the most to me. And you will just put them down.Lesley Logan 11:40  At OPC, we have consistency, we have communication, transparency, authenticity, and so it's how we operate, and it's also how our members can know that these are the values we have, and if you have these values, you belong here too. If you have all the same values, we have a couple, right? But these are really, really important because we often go off vibes, and that just doesn't work. I do this all the time. We have a meeting every month about the financial state of our business, and it's because it's too easy to go off vibes, way too easy to go, well, this didn't go as well as I thought, and this didn't go as well as I thought. Then go, whoa, we actually had a great month. So why am I being hard on myself? Oh, because I'm comparing myself to someone else, my old rubric, and I didn't go off the data, not helpful, not helpful, babe. So choose three to five core values that you can measure your days by. Lesley Logan 12:27  Okay, it'll also help you understand how to do things in your day. I can't wait to see how you use this because I do think this is a really cool thing that I found in my research for this. And I actually think, especially when you're in comparisonitis, maybe don't do this every day, but if you find yourself in a comparison season of life, this might be the best way to get yourself out of it. So here is your action step this week: just pick one metric of your old scoreboard that you are officially retiring and replace it with a value that protects your piece. So go look at your four to five core values, which one can you replace that old metric by so you can protect your inner peace because you have to be it on your own terms before you'll ever see it in your life, whatever it is. Peace, love, true success is something that you're going to define, but also we got to get there with a regulated nervous system. We can't be an exhausted, burnt out shell of ourselves.Lesley Logan 13:19  No one says when I my Be It Till I See It, babe. My Be It, babe. That I am looking towards and taking action as if I'm already her is dead and tired. No one is saying that. So becoming the woman who honors her own version of success and saying you're firmly in your choices, even when no one understands your timeline, and that is hard. I know that I disappoint and piss off a lot of people in my personal life, and I'm okay with that because when I do show up with them, I'm the version of me that I want to be around them. It's listening and present and supportive, and it's hard to do.Lesley Logan 13:55  I guess I wouldn't say I piss, but I probably frustrate them. I'm probably sure they want more. Anyways, your reflection questions: More versus better. So I love this. I hope you did too. So where are you chasing more, more, more, more, more, more? And what could, what would be a better replacement? Is it better, better boundaries, higher quality, that kind of thing? Okay. Next metric is in your last achievement? Did reaching that goal leave you feeling safe and spacious, or fried and anxious? So, if you look at your last achievement, if when the time you got there you couldn't even celebrate because you're so tired, we have to redefine your metric. That is a big sign. Hey, but if you got there and you were so excited you could celebrate and be there and enjoy it, good job. Keep that metric. Lesley Logan 14:42  Now, the next thing I want you to look at is, in the current season you're in, what are you allowing success to look like? And then, looking at five or 10 years ago, what was the definition you're off operating off of? If it's the same, my love, I promise you, you're in a different season. And so you could probably immediately take some pressure off your shoulders. So redefine. And lastly, what are your three internal values that would help you to know if today was successful? Make sure you put them on a Post-it. Make sure you start your day looking at that. Make sure you write down action steps you can take to get there. Comparison does suck, but it's also not terrible. And so, what I will say, because I said in the first episode, it's often just a highlighter, a flashlight, a magnifying glass, a little beep beep beep beep beep.Lesley Logan 15:33  There's something about this that you want, whether it's a vibe, emotion, a value, an impact. There's something that you want, and it's hard to Be It Till We See It. If we can't see the thing that we want, even if it's not the exact thing, I can look at a friend of mine and I can see the ease at which she does some things. I don't actually want to do the thing she's doing, but I can see that ease. And if I hadn't seen that, I wouldn't have known that I actually want that in my life, as I do the thing that I'm doing, right? Does that make sense? So please don't shame yourself if you do compare. Market research is important, but if you are feeling like you're going into a spiral, if comparison is high, then you got to get clear on who you are, what you want to be, and the values that you want to live by to get there.Lesley Logan 16:25  Be It babe, I hope this is helpful for you. I hope this took the inspiration that a lot of our guests have given us and helped you put it into place where you can apply it to your life today. And I would love to hear what your takeaways are. So please tag the Be It Pod, share the series with a friend who needs to hear it. Maybe you guys can answer these questions together and support each other, and hold each other accountable. And if you have a topic you would like me to go into, if you have questions based on this that I could maybe do some other episodes on, please send them into beitpod.com/questions. And then lastly, to support this podcast, thank you so much for listening. Every download supports this podcast, including the ones your friends do. Reviews help too, and being an OPC member really truly helps this podcast. It's how this podcast is powered. Thank you so much, and until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 17:06  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. 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Getting told the problem is user error when you know it is not is a special kind of frustrating. Lesley Logan takes listeners through a baffling computer glitch she experienced, a Genius Bar visit that went sideways, and what she ended up buying as a real fix for long haul flights. Celebrate with her twelve years of YouTube growth, a listener who survived two tough classes, and a mantra for treating yourself with kindness. This episode is a reminder that trusting your own experience counts as a win.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:The podcast reaches an incredible milestone of over 740 episodes.Why frustrating customer service ruined a simple tech appointment.Upgrade travel comfort using noise canceling headphones on long flights.Consistency pays off after twelve years of YouTube channel growth.Conquering tough fitness classes proves you can handle hard challenges.Episode References/Links:Be It Till You See on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@BeItTillYouSeeItOPC Flashcards - OPC Flashcards - https://opc.me/flashcardsNevada SPCA - https://nevadaspca.org@lakesaintlouisliving - https://www.instagram.com/lakesaintlouislivingSubmit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questions If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! 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Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:47  Be It, babe. Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It podcast. Oh my God, guys, we are slaying through episodes more than 740. So I mean, this is insane. I can't believe we're going to be on 800 before we know it, but anyways, that's not our win. That's not it. All right. So on Fridays, it's real talk. It's real life chat with me. I'm just chatting with myself, and hopefully you're enjoying it. And then I share one of mine and one of yours. And so, okay, remember my technology pissy moments a couple months ago. So I've had something happen in my computer three times that no one can explain, and I can show it to people. And Brad has seen it in real time, and it is the whole thing.Lesley Logan 1:27  But at any rate, my computer would be looking so great, and I would put the charger on. I wouldn't read that there was a charger there, and it'd be the appropriate before anyone tells me something. It's the appropriate type of charger for the computer, and it's plugged in appropriately to an outlet, and that outlet works. And then I've tried other outlets that I know work, and other chargers are the right size and the right currency and whatever, blah blah blah. And so, anyways, I made a Genius appointment. I made a Genius appointment, and I go and I explain to the guy, and the guy is looking at me like I'm a crazy person, and he is checking to make sure that my charging thing is clean and all this stuff. Basically, the long story example of is when your car makes a sound, you take a mechanic, and the sound doesn't work anymore. It's like that. So, of course, there's no way to recreate what happened. And of course, I didn't film myself having the problem that was happening. And next time I will because I felt like a crazy person. And then, of course, they go, "Oh, we'll help you early," only for the guy to go, "Oh, I'm getting off work now, so you have to wait for this other person." And then the other person was just, I think he's. This is really a user error experience. User error. This is not my first MacBook. I know what the fuck I'm doing. I know how chargers work. Do you know who my husband is?Lesley Logan 2:34  So, anyways, while waiting in purgatory for my computer to reboot and whatever I was going to do, I will say that I did treat myself to headphones I didn't need, but I guess my event is I just think that computer technicians, mechanics, everyone should just be trained in. God, that really sucks. I don't see why that's happening. And what I will say is maybe next time, why don't you do these three things? Because it sounds like you actually are doing all the right things, so would you film it next time and then come back because we can see what's going on? Because we can't see it in the technology. There's nothing. The computer's not telling us anything, and it sounds like you're doing everything right. Blow smoke up my ass. That would be great. Just tell me I did everything right, and what to do next time it happens. And then, even though they didn't do that, did I buy something I didn't need? Fuck yeah, I did, and I am really excited about it. I'm really excited about it. In fact, it probably come a win later on.Lesley Logan 3:25  But I bought myself these headphones that they also said you don't need those because you have the AirPod Three Pros, and I was, yeah, but they're not noise canceling enough, and you don't understand. Last year I was, this is how dramatic I do sound dramatic. If waterboarding could be a baby's cry, right? That's what it was for 15 hours on a flight. And my AirPods, now they weren't the Three Pros; they were the two. At any rate, they cut. They did nothing. Zero, nothing. I even put a sweatshirt hoodie over me. I tried everything. 17 hours of flight, 15 hours of nonstop crying. So I bought these things. I didn't need. This is not my win, but they also didn't want to sell me that. People don't know what you're talking about. I put them on while the landscaper was doing his leaf blower outside my office, and I barely heard it. I'm gonna tell you right now. I'm gonna have the best flights to Asia. I have three in Q4, three, and I'm gonna have the best ones, all because my computer did something stupid that they couldn't figure out. So my computer actually, my computer was looking out for me. Maybe I shouldn't yell at it so much. Anyways, okay. Thanks for going that journey with me.Lesley Logan 4:11  My win is my YouTube, my YouTube channel growth. Oh my God, you guys! I don't know if you know this, but my YouTube channel has been a real time, 12-year Be It Till You See It. I didn't ever want to do it. I would get nervous every time I'd film the videos. I would cry during some of the times because you don't even understand. 12 years ago, you couldn't even afford a tripod. My young friends who are listening couldn't even afford a tripod. That was $175 or $125, and even then, it was hard to find the thing would hold the iPhone because you didn't film. Your iPhones. You film with a DSLR. Wow, I didn't even know I would pull those letters out of my mouth. And so we didn't have lights. We didn't have microphones. Oh my God, a microphone so expensive. So, anyways, I used to just yell at the camera. But here we are, 12 years later, and in the last couple months, the channel has been growing so much, and I really have that that win is a collective community effort because I have several people on the team who help me make this magic happen. I met an incredible expert consultant who gave me some really great tips, and I'm so grateful for him. And I'm just grateful for all of you for subscribing to it and being part of it. So it's not the podcast YouTube channel; it's the OPC YouTube channel. Although you can subscribe to the podcast YouTube channel and tell me how you like it. If you like watching the videos, I recognize that I don't look at the camera most of the time on this because I just look around the room because I don't know ADHD is real and it's hard to look at a green dot all day. But at any rate, my online Pilates classes YouTube channel's growth has been so wonderfully organic, beautiful, and it's just nice to see that the work I'm putting out there is something that's helping you and the people are sharing with their friends, and I'm grateful. I'm grateful. I'm grateful. I'm grateful. And if you have yet not subscribed to that, and you want to support this podcast and me, subscribe to my YouTube channel. That's a great way to do it. All right, thank you. That's my win. Lesley Logan 6:16  Okay, your win. Ready? @lakesaintlouisliving I did two Pilates classes at two different studios with two tough instructors, and I didn't die. I love it. That's a great win. That's a great win. Brad just did a Pilates session with me today, and he didn't die because you want to know something. You're not going to die. It's going to be hard. Might be uncomfortable, but you're going to find something new in yourself, and you're not going to die. And then that is practice that you can do hard things. See, Pilates is helping you practice. If you don't die during that, you're not going to die in other things. So there you go. Challenge yourself. I love that.Lesley Logan 6:49  All right, let's get you a mantra and get you on your weekend. I treat myself with kindness and understanding. I treat myself with kindness and understanding. Oh, do you do that? Do you feel a cognitive dissonance? Is that what you have to Be It Till You See It this week? Treat myself with kindness and understanding. Love you so much, Be It, babe. Thank you so much for supporting this podcast any way you can. Subscribing to our OPC YouTube channel, subscribing to OPC, or buying flashcards. We it means the world to us. And by the way, when you buy those flashcards, it supports the Nevada SPCA as well. So look at you supporting so many people with just one action. You are awesome. Go Be It Till You See It.Lesley Logan 7:25  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 8:09  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 8:13  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 8:18  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 8:25  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 8:28  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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Part one of a two-part series on self comparison opens with the hard truth that most people are not behind at all. Lesley Logan traces the borrowed scoreboards we inherit from parents, from past versions of ourselves, and from a social feed built entirely of highlight reels. She unpacks a goal she once wrote down that was never actually hers, and why envy works better as a diagnostic tool than a verdict.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Letting go of what no longer serves instead of accumulating more.Why feeling behind at thirty said nothing about actually being behind.Envy read as a highlight of what matters, not a judgment.How a goal written on a Lululemon worksheet was never actually hers.Four homework questions to answer before the radical success audit.Episode References/Links:Submit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questions If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentCheck out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose and ToeSox https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentBe in the know with all the workshops at OPC https://workshops.onlinepilatesclasses.com/lp-workshop-waitlistBe It Till You See It Podcast Survey https://pod.lesleylogan.co/be-it-podcasts-surveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates Mentorship https://lesleylogan.co/elevate/FREE Ditching Busy Webinar https://ditchingbusy.com/Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gLesley Logan website https://lesleylogan.co/Be It Till You See It Podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjogqXLnfyhS5VlU4rdzlnQProfitable Pilates https://profitablepilates.com/about/Follow Us on Social Media:Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lesley.logan/The Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gFacebook https://www.facebook.com/llogan.pilatesLinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesley-logan/The OPC YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@OnlinePilatesClasses Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  I really do want you to stop outsourcing your metrics of happiness because you are comparing yourself on data that isn't the right data you need to get to where you want to go.Lesley Logan 0:11  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:54  Hey, Be It babe, welcome, welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast. Today we're talking about self-comparison, and ooh, I don't know if you were raised on this line, but I was raised on self-comparison is a thief of joy. I guess they didn't have the self part. The comparison is a thief of joy, and you know what? It fucking is. So here's the deal: if you have ever looked at someone else's life online or in your community and felt this immediate sinking pit in your stomach telling you that you are behind, or you just see something, and you're just, "Why them? How do they get that?" I feel that for you. I really, really do. I heard a woman say this beautiful line at a talk the other day, and I'm going to have her on the podcast. She is scheduled, so we will have an episode with her, and we'll probably talk about this deeper. But she had said this, like, hit me. She said, "If comparison is high, clarity is low," and I think if that's all you get out of this episode, then I will, then I've done my job. But today we are going to break down the hard truth. You're probably not behind at all, right? And you know this, you know. But let's talk about why are you scoring yourself on someone else's scoreboard? Because that's what comparison is, right? Lesley Logan 1:58  When we compare yourself to somebody else, it's just like we're using someone else's life and their scoreboard and going, "We are behind," but really, you're in your own fucking game. So this first part. So on Thursday we'll have a second part. We're gonna just talk about comparison and do a radical success audit because I really do want you to stop outsourcing your metrics of happiness because you are comparing yourself on data that isn't the right data you need to get to where you want to go. This is called "Be It Till You See It," right? If you are using the wrong metrics to "Be It Till You See It," you're going to end up being on someone else's costume. It's going to be, don't even know what that is. "Be it till you are in their clothes." That's not going to work. So here's the deal: I am a 43-year-old woman who is talking to you right now, and oh my god, I think I was a 43-year-old in a child's body my whole life. Maybe not that old, but I definitely couldn't wait to be at the next level in the next stage. And I definitely compared myself to so many people. Being young was so hard. I was so hard on myself because, first of all, I didn't have a lot of money when I grew up, and all my friends really did. At least, if they didn't, it seemed like they did because they went to Disneyland before I could. They had cars when they were 16. I had to buy mine, right? Like there's all these just different things that they're so. Oh my god! I was in the AP classes, and these people were so smart. My B plus was the hardest work of life that I could get. My A minuses were, and they came so easy to them. Came so easy, right? And so I remember going to college, and everybody was like finding their husbands and getting married. And I was really proud to not get married in college.Lesley Logan 3:30  I mean, because one, my college was super expensive, and two, I'm, thank God, I didn't marry those men, I would have been divorced very quickly, and I probably would have had a life I didn't want to really have a hard time. So, but I do remember after 30, my 30th birthday. I remember just feeling, "Wow, I'm behind. I am behind." Because even though I knew I didn't want kids and that kind of thing, I wasn't married. In fact, I was broken up. I broke up with my partner, and I was semi-homeless, and I had to start over with my studio and blah blah blah, and I just felt behind. Wow, you know. And then it felt every single month of not being in a relationship with the right person was now I'm not going to get married at least until I'm 31. Then it's, you know what I mean, like. And then I just remember feeling I didn't have it all locked down, and I think a lot of women feel that way at a young age, whether or not you want to have children.Lesley Logan 4:24  There's this thing we've got to get this stuff done early, and as we know, that's not true. But it doesn't mean that it still doesn't feel true, right? It doesn't. It feels true. And there's also the idea, you know, retirement is around the corner. I mean, it's not really around the corner, but I want to retire early, so it's around the corner. Do I have enough money for that? I, I should have had this many members by now, so then I could do X, Y, and Z. And so it's just, it's a really hard time because there does feel like there's a timeline, and that we're trapped, and that we are behind, even if we don't look at other people, because there's just things we want to have done by now, and the reality is, as a business owner, as long as I've been, everything takes longer than we want. It will always have problems, and all of a sudden, you'll have been there, and you'll be looking back, and wow, how did that go? Lesley Logan 5:13  Like I was at Brad's birthday party, and with a friend, and he didn't know how we met, and so I told the story. I was like, "Yeah, that was 11 years ago. That's 11 years ago. 11 years ago, when we got married, fuck. Wow, time does fly when you're having a good time. But also, we have to remember that this is a really good time for us to edit, get rid of, let go of things, not just keep accumulating, because it makes it really difficult to find the success that you want if you're trying to carry all the things from the past decades with you. So, what do you have to let go of? Is it friends? Is it a dresser you've just been shoving more shit in? Is it a car? Is it a job? Is it a goal that isn't yours? Lesley Logan 6:03  So, for example, before I became a Lululemon ambassador, this would be 14 years ago, 15 years ago. When you come to the house, you'll see that my picture is on the wall here. It's fucking huge, and I don't know what to do with it. So it's just right there, staring at you, the guest bedroom, bathroom. But they had us do this goals thing: one year, five year, 10 year goals, right? And it had to be health related and personal and business or whatever, successful, whatever. And I put down that I wanted to do a yoga teacher training. I liked going to yoga classes. I had done a Pilates instructor teacher training. I was finishing up my second one, and I was, you know, I should do a yoga one because then I can teach yoga classes because that's what everyone does in fitness. They have 17,000 certifications. They could teach all these different formats, and I should do that. And then six months later, when I looked at that sheet, I hadn't even touched. I hadn't even Googled a yoga certification. Didn't even look one up. And guess what? There was one happening in Equinox where I worked, and I didn't even think, oh, I could do that one.Lesley Logan 7:00  None of that even came to my mind, and so what that meant was I was accumulating goals that weren't right for the success that I wanted to have, and so my love, we really need to be thoughtful about the things that we haven't let go of that no longer are serving a good purpose for us right now.Lesley Logan 7:20  All right. So next thing I want us to focus on before we get into our homework audit, I want us to talk about the borrowed scoreboard. Right. So this is ideal. We often get goals from our parents, but are often your parents put goals on you. I hear parents talk about their kids today and what school they're going to go to and how they're going to be, and what sports they're going to be in, and I'm, oh my god, do the, and I can't even keep my mouth shut, which has got me in trouble. Do they even like it? And they're going to like it. They get so defensive at me, and I'm, oh, this is I'm not supposed to talk. They're just supposed to talk at me. Okay, noted. But oftentimes our parents have had goals for us, right? And so we feel like we're disappointing people when we don't do those things, and so then not only do we do them or we try to have fun doing them, we kind of keep that goal as part of who we are supposed to be.Lesley Logan 8:10  We also have past versions of ourselves that we are using still to think about how we are doing things and if we're doing a good enough job. We 10 years ago definitely could handle a 12- to 13-hour workday and sleep and still do all the workouts and eat really well. And the person of me today cannot do that. If I don't get my work done in six hours, that's it. That's all I have, folks. And I have caught myself going, "Lesley. You should be able to do this. You just sit down at dinner and get another fucking hour of work done," and I just can't. So I can't. That's me in that moment comparing myself to an old self, using that old self's scoreboard and brain and things, and social media sucks for this, right? And so goes back to that thing: when comparison is high, clarity is low. If you open up socials and you are feeling bad about yourself when it's over, my dear, there's a big sign your scoreboard is not your own, because you know that it's all a highlight reel. You know that it has to be. That's the only way this works, because you definitely don't know the people that are made fun of for not having it being the weird ones that are doing something stupid on the strip, and it will be embarrassed that someone filmed them doing that. You don't want that, so you put out the highlight reel, and not to say that you should also put yourself up crying because I really hate videos of people crying. I think we know it's a highlight reel, and yet we'll compare ourselves to others. And the thing that you cannot get in 2200 characters or in a three-second hook is all the things that went wrong before that beautiful thing went up, right? Lesley Logan 9:49  It is so. I'm pretty transparent here, so I know you guys know how much shit our business has gone through to get the things going. Because if you're a member, we're very transparent with you. If you're a listener, we talk this happened, and then that happened, and we did this, and now we're here, and now it works, and it's great, and so exciting. But it's a journey. But most people don't share that stuff, right? And that stuff also isn't sexy, so nobody wants to listen to it, anyways, because you just sound like a complainer. But the reality is that social media makes us feel like we're always behind, that we're not thin enough, that we're not pretty enough, that we're not doing enough things for ourselves.Lesley Logan 10:20  My god, to tell you the truth, I hate how I look on this podcast, and yet I will tell you right now, I don't do anything to change how I look on this podcast. But when it comes out, wow, you don't look at the camera, it's like you can't make eye contact. It would be cool, Lesley, if you just did your hair, you know. But the other thing is, is I also know that I don't really care, but it's just there's just something about it because then I see some other beautiful person on their podcast and it's just crisp and clearly filmed in 4,000k or whatever it is, 4k and 4,000k. I sound like that woman who I had podcasts which is it's 20 2000 2026. Lesley Logan 11:00  Anyways, they just look so stunning, and I know how. What I that means that they took an hour and a half to set up that podcast to look that stunning, and I could do that too. But we're not doing that because that's not who I want to be on this. But the reality is that social media often has us comparing ourselves and feeling, "Wow, I do not measure up," but you're measuring yourself to somebody else, and all this, all the support that they have that you may or may not have, right? So I think it's really important that we remember that if we're looking at the shiny front, beautiful things that others are putting out there, we are often ignoring the hidden trade-offs of and the daily maintenance of that lifestyle. We pretend they have such a beautiful background, so that means everything is beautiful. No, probably not. Probably that's the stage that they're showing you. I do yoga with this woman, and I was like, your backyard is so pretty. She's, yeah, and if I were to move this computer three inches, you would see how much storage shit is out here, but you don't because this is the perfect space to look, and so just everybody is hiding all the things that they don't want people to see because they're afraid that that will mean that they're not as successful as they are. But that's not true because they are as successful they are with the junk in the background, right?Lesley Logan 12:12  All right. So we need to shift out of a comparison spiral, right? Obviously, we need to do that. We obviously need to have that as an ability. And what I would just want to say is, if you are able to notice that you are in a comparison spiral, that is the first fucking step, and that's a great thing because most people don't even realize that they are in a comparison spiral until they're spiraled out of control. So we need to use when we feel envy as this diagnostic tool that tells you where in your current life, what that is, what is that highlighting, right? So, if I see that somebody looks so stunning in their podcast and they just look like they actually know how what they're doing and their stats look amazing, it is a sign that I actually care that I want this podcast to be successful. It actually has nothing to do with whether I think I'm beautiful or not, that I'm capable. It has everything to do with. I actually give a fuck. I care. That's why I'm jealous a little bit, right? If I look at someone who looks like they have it all together because they are articulate in how they can share what their goals are, and they have these quippy sentences that they say, and that the comparison is high, clarity must be low. It means that I care about making sure that my points that I get to come across succinctly and effectively, right? So when you notice that you're having a little bit of that, you know, jealous eye, we call Darla Jelly Grace because she, when we give Bayon attention, she comes over wants attention, right? Because she wants attention too. That's why she's jelly of the attention he's getting. So it's okay to see something in someone else and want that for yourself. It is a highlight of the thing, right? And so, if you can use it as this, oh, this is important to me, rather than some judgment tool, right? Lesley Logan 13:57  It's a highlighter. It's an expander tool, not one that is talking about how well you measure up or down, right? It's a highlight. It's oh, it's almost like if you think about in the movie Scrooged, which I guess is Charles Dickens, right? When you're visited with the ghosts of Christmas past and present and future, you just see the life that you want the ghost, the ghost of future, Christmas future. This is how your life is going to be. That's what looking at someone else's life and having a little. That means it's something that you want you to have in your future, and so that really helps you and understand what you do have to audit to get that. What you do need to do to train yourself up to do that. What is what you do actually care about? Because sometimes we say we don't care about something, we actually do care about it, right? We do, and that's okay. So just keep that in mind, because sometimes we get envious, and then we get mad at ourselves for being envious, and really, then we miss out on what the envy was trying to tell us. So this is really, really important. You cannot embody, you cannot be your future self if you are trying to step into a costume design for someone else cannot cannot be it till you see it. If what you see is being somebody else and comparing yourself to that, that's you're not able to make decisions as them because you are not them, and that's okay, right? So you can use that person to be an inspiration and put that stuff on your vision board, but it still has to be you doing those things. And so, how would you do it? And that's where the uniqueness comes in. That's where the beauty comes in. That's where why we can have five different computers out there, and I like the one that I like because they designed it for the person that I am, and they market it that way, right? That that kind of thing. So when you see something, you go, "Oh, well, they've already done it, so I can't do it." No, not true, because no one's going to do it like you, whatever the thing is, whatever the it is. Lesley Logan 15:43  So since we talked about why we feel like there's a timeline, why we feel pressure, we've talked about the scoreboards, we've talked about comparison actually just being data and information, and I think we're pretty clear that using other people's stuff and then judging ourselves on it is not helping us out. So what I want to do on the next episode is go to the big question: like, what do we put in the place of comparison and scoreboards that are not our own? What do we put in place of that judgment? So in the next episode, we're going to stop questioning our old way and start actively building your custom definition of success that matches your real life, the life you want to have, and your energy and your current season, because that's what's so important, right?Lesley Logan 16:30  So I do want to give you some homework questions because I think that that will help us get you ready for the next episode. So even if you are banging these two next to each other, just take a moment, and I want you to take. If you have more than three goals, and your top three goals. If you only have three or less than your three goals that you're currently stressing over. So got them. So who taught you that these specific things equal success? So if you are working on goals and you're until I have this, then I can't have that. Who taught you that? Where'd that come from? You might have to do some morning pages on that. Next question. This is more of a cost-benefit analysis. If you magically woke up tomorrow with the exact life of the person you're comparing yourself to, what hidden daily trade-offs or responsibilities, what do you inherit that you actually don't want? So, if you woke up as a person you're jelly of, what do you think? There, what trade-offs would you get? Right? Oh my god, so funny when I think of that. Oh god, I do not want that.Lesley Logan 17:36  I definitely love my life because, right, because I wouldn't have the husband I have, or the dogs I have, or the house I have, or the morning routine I have, I'd have to. Oh my god! I'd have to have two assistants, right? All right. So that's their next question answer. Next one we call the envy decoder. Think of someone you envied recently, stripping away their specific job or relationship or lifestyle. What is the underlying feeling or energy that they have that your current life is missing. So that person that you envied, what do you do? You think that they have more freedom? Do they have more ease? Do they have more playfulness, more visibility? Take away the actual specifics and what's the energy and vibe that they're embodying that you have a little envious towards. That's going to help you understand what you're being till you see, because you might not even actually want to do the thing that they're doing. You just might want to feel at ease doing the thing you want to do, and they look so easeful. Lesley Logan 18:25  Last one is the version of it, you know, the Be It you are trying to be right now actually yours. Are you trying to fit into costume design for someone else? I remember my ex having a party, and I remember being in this fancy dress I had to wear at this party, and I remember looking around this party and going, "I don't even know who these people are." And remember going, "I don't even want to be at this party." And then I looked at the dress, my ex bought me this dress, but I don't love this. I don't like this dress at all, and just feeling whose life is this, right? So it was my reality check, and then I moved out and crashed my car. But anyways, that's a different story for a different day, and they happen kind of over a month apart, but most of the same time. Don't worry. But I want you to do those questions because I think it will really help you in the Be It Till You See It. All right. Lesley Logan 19:21  Well, we have another episode coming up on this topic to talk about those things, and I just want to say thank you for listening so very, very much. Please make sure you share this episode with a friend who needs to hear it. Maybe you share your success audit together. Send in your answers to the beitpod.com/questions. I would love to hear them all celebrate as a win. Whatever your aha moment is, you can be anonymous if you want. And if there's a topic you want us to discuss, you can send that there as well, beitpod.com/questions. And lastly, there's several ways to support this podcast. One is making sure we get more downloads by you telling your friends to listen to it. Another way is leaving a review. So if you haven't done that, I know it's really hard to do, but you can do it on Spotify and you can do it on Apple, and it would mean the world to me. Thanks so much. Have an amazing day. Oh, until next time. Go Be It Till You See It.Lesley Logan 20:01  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 20:44  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 20:49  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 20:53  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 21:00  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals..Brad Crowell 21:03  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. 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For some, saying no feels like closing a door forever. For others, it is the only way to protect the work that matters. Lesley is sharing why she turned down an opportunity that would have made good money, what she has learned about brands that drop the people who talk about them, and how a win can be as simple as not feeling bad about it. Maybe there is a yes you have been giving away that you should be saying no to.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! 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Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:48  Welcome, Be It babe, to the Fuck Yeah Friday episode that has no script at the beginning. I just wing it every time, and I wung it so poorly. You'll probably hear a blooper in this episode because I. Oh my god! Normally, don't record the FYFs on Tuesday afternoons because normally that's when Brad and I would record a recap. So I think my brain is like, "Oh, it's Tuesday. You're in the pod room. You must be recording a recap without your husband. It's Friday, and we take some time to just be a human being. Don't have to be learning. We can be living. We can be celebrating what we did do together, and you know I got to get a little thing off my chest with you. Hopefully, you're in your car nodding along and understand my pain. Then I share one of your wins, and then you get to send. You get to be inspired by someone's win. You send it in to me. Lesley Logan 1:35  So, okay, here's the deal. There's this weird thing that's going on. So, for those who have been on Instagram for a long time, meaning of like being on Instagram, like you didn't have to have a ton of followers, but like everybody wanted to send you a pair of leggings and then give you 10% off as your discount, but also you would sell the leggings and then you would get affiliate money, right? And so years ago, was everyone and their mom was literally in my DMs trying to get me to wear their fucking leggings. Send me a free pair, and then I just have to post, and I get to have an affiliate link and make three cents, right? So that was annoying. Fast forward to okay. Now I actually want to be intentional about the companies I collab with. I want to make sure it's things that we want to tell you about. So being intentional about doing my research, trying the product, reaching out, being an affiliate for them, and then for them to go, you actually haven't sold enough of the product, so we're going to cancel your affiliation with us. So by not selling enough of the product, they wanted 20 sales in a month. You guys, someone have to have a million followers for that because most people know it takes seven to 10 hours of somebody understanding your brand before they buy something from you. So seven to 17 touch points at the least for some purchase. And so I was so frustrated because it has been 30 days. What'd you think I was going to talk about your stuff all day long every single day? Like this is QVC? No. And so it was just so annoying, and it gave me such a bad taste with the brand because that's just you know I would never do with my affiliates. If you want to be an affiliate of ours, we have it for our flashcards and we have it for Agency, and then we have referral bonuses for eLevate and for the retreat. And if you want to be, we don't go. You have to have minimum sales to get a thing. No, what I have seen is if you do really, really well, you might get better payouts. But to just completely drop the people who've been talking about you because they didn't do a good enough job? Weird. I just think it's weird. I think it's gross. It's not. It's and then all these companies like women supporting women. Fuck you. No, you're not. Because you would just allow me to be an.Lesley Logan 3:37  If you saw me using my affiliate just to buy stuff at discount, okay, that is one thing, but to just feel you can keep talking about we're not going to pay you because you didn't. I don't know something about it just really irks me because wait, that's not that's not how things go. And you know, there's been other companies have taken really really good care of me, really really amazing, and then they got rid of their affiliate program. Very different thing, very very different thing, and so this is not me bitching about that stuff. It's just like the ones you. I don't know. I just think why can't I just tell people about the product that I love and then maybe one a month come to you? Maybe that's it, right? Maybe get one a month. Maybe actually my people already buy your stuff and they're like, oh, Les likes to do it. I'll keep buying more, but you'll never know, right? It's just weird. I don't know. Why can't we just all get along? Why can't we all support each other? That's all. That's what this complaint is about. Lesley Logan 4:25  All right. So my win, my win because I think I've like hit that pinata to death. So I had an invitation to do something that, to be honest, would have actually been fine and aligned with the business, and we would have made it work, and probably would have made some good money on it. And I said no because it was going to affect my well-being and my commitments to myself, and my sleep, and my routines. And I have so many friends who work for themselves who will just say yes to every speaking gig, and they will just work from every hotel, and they just wear this badge of busy. And I cannot do that. And it's really interesting because, like, there is this fear that can come up. Oh my god! If I tell people I'm going to say no to things, then people will stop asking me. And I'm sure that's true. I guess it could happen. But I also really do believe that this is not advice for you if you're brand new at the thing you're doing, okay? But I've been doing this for a long time, a long time. I've been doing this a long time, and I also did so much travel, and then no travel because of pandemic, and then a little bit travel, and then so much travel, and I love it, and I would love to go everywhere all of the time. I'd love to say yes, and the truth is, is that I can't do the good work that I'm doing and say yes to every single thing. So I said no to this thing. I said I can't do it this time, but please keep me in mind for the rest, for other things. You know, it's not a never. It's just not a today, and send them on with some other support. And then I didn't feel bad about it, and I also think that that's a win. Like, whoa, wow, what, what? I'm I got rid of some level of insecurity that was vibrating in my brain. Got rid of that somewhere along the way, and I don't know when, but when I did this, I didn't buzz in. Oh my God, you're gonna invite again? Do you want to be invited? Nope, not not insecure at all. So that's my win. That's my win. I said no, I didn't feel bad about it. So see how easy a win can be? Lesley Logan 6:25  Now let's do a win of yours. You can send your wins in to beitpod.com/questions. Okay, same link for everything. Questions, topics. The questions we answer on YouTube, but the topics we do podcast episodes on or find guests. You can send guest requests in. If you send me Michelle Obama one more time, I love her. Can't wait. Would love for her to be. Cannot wait to be of earn the right to interview her. But maybe someone a little more attainable. Yeah. Okay. I love you guys so much. All right. So this is from @sandaburkemovement, "Set up my new reformer!!!" Oh my god, your new Reformer is stunning on you, and it's been so fun to watch your practice just evolve and change, and you know, the strength that you have, and I just am so glad that you're in my life, that I've been your elevated life, and we get to keep doing this Pilates thing together. Lesley Logan 7:09  And then this one is from @pilates_muscles, "Connected deeper to my breath, and made my long legs feel feather light and teaser." Oh wow! Breath is so good. The breath is so good. Ah, I love these wins. Thanks for sending them in, ladies. You are amazing. Keep them coming because you'll hear them in the future, right? You won't hear them a week later when you remember the win. You're going to hear it a month or three later and go, "Oh my God, I did that. That's right. I forgot about that. Right? Lesley Logan 7:37  All right. Here is your mantra: Relaxation is my natural state. Relaxation is my natural state. Relaxation is your natural state, babe. Go get it. Go Be It Till You See It. Thank you so much for supporting this podcast by listening, by sharing, and by supporting OPC onlinepilatesclasses.com by either being a member or buying our flashcards, you mean the world to me. Have an amazing day. Lesley Logan 8:05  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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High in the Lebanese mountains above Beirut sits Beit Trad, an eighteenth-century family home that Sarah Trad transformed into a guesthouse devoted to Levantine hospitality. The house brings together family history, Lebanese design, food, and the belief that welcoming someone into your home is an essential part of life. In A House in the Lebanese Mountains: Recipes & Stories from Beit Trad (Thames & Hudson, 2026), Trad tells the story of Beit Trad and the family who shaped it, alongside recipes for the generous Lebanese food served around its tables. Part memoir, part cookbook, and part portrait of a remarkable house, the book captures interiors that mix Eastern and Western influences and reflect the layered identity of the Levant. The recipes range from Beit Trad's elaborate breakfasts to vegetable dishes, stews, meats, fish, and sweets. Throughout, Trad explores hosting as both an art and a practice: making guests feel completely at home while recognizing the work and dedicated team required to make that sense of ease seem effortless. Sarah Trad joins New Books Network to discuss Levantine hospitality, her family's house and its transformation into a guesthouse, and her mother's influence on her understanding of hosting. She also talks about what it takes to run Beit Trad, the relationship between beauty and appetite, and recipes including Pasta B Laban – a decidedly non-Italian spaghetti dish with garlic and yogurt that is pure Lebanese comfort food – and a strawberry and orange salad that showcases the magic of orange blossom water. Interview by Laura Goldberg, longtime food blogger at VittlesVamp.com. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

High in the Lebanese mountains above Beirut sits Beit Trad, an eighteenth-century family home that Sarah Trad transformed into a guesthouse devoted to Levantine hospitality. The house brings together family history, Lebanese design, food, and the belief that welcoming someone into your home is an essential part of life. In A House in the Lebanese Mountains: Recipes & Stories from Beit Trad (Thames & Hudson, 2026), Trad tells the story of Beit Trad and the family who shaped it, alongside recipes for the generous Lebanese food served around its tables. Part memoir, part cookbook, and part portrait of a remarkable house, the book captures interiors that mix Eastern and Western influences and reflect the layered identity of the Levant. The recipes range from Beit Trad's elaborate breakfasts to vegetable dishes, stews, meats, fish, and sweets. Throughout, Trad explores hosting as both an art and a practice: making guests feel completely at home while recognizing the work and dedicated team required to make that sense of ease seem effortless. Sarah Trad joins New Books Network to discuss Levantine hospitality, her family's house and its transformation into a guesthouse, and her mother's influence on her understanding of hosting. She also talks about what it takes to run Beit Trad, the relationship between beauty and appetite, and recipes including Pasta B Laban – a decidedly non-Italian spaghetti dish with garlic and yogurt that is pure Lebanese comfort food – and a strawberry and orange salad that showcases the magic of orange blossom water. Interview by Laura Goldberg, longtime food blogger at VittlesVamp.com. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

High in the Lebanese mountains above Beirut sits Beit Trad, an eighteenth-century family home that Sarah Trad transformed into a guesthouse devoted to Levantine hospitality. The house brings together family history, Lebanese design, food, and the belief that welcoming someone into your home is an essential part of life. In A House in the Lebanese Mountains: Recipes & Stories from Beit Trad (Thames & Hudson, 2026), Trad tells the story of Beit Trad and the family who shaped it, alongside recipes for the generous Lebanese food served around its tables. Part memoir, part cookbook, and part portrait of a remarkable house, the book captures interiors that mix Eastern and Western influences and reflect the layered identity of the Levant. The recipes range from Beit Trad's elaborate breakfasts to vegetable dishes, stews, meats, fish, and sweets. Throughout, Trad explores hosting as both an art and a practice: making guests feel completely at home while recognizing the work and dedicated team required to make that sense of ease seem effortless. Sarah Trad joins New Books Network to discuss Levantine hospitality, her family's house and its transformation into a guesthouse, and her mother's influence on her understanding of hosting. She also talks about what it takes to run Beit Trad, the relationship between beauty and appetite, and recipes including Pasta B Laban – a decidedly non-Italian spaghetti dish with garlic and yogurt that is pure Lebanese comfort food – and a strawberry and orange salad that showcases the magic of orange blossom water. Interview by Laura Goldberg, longtime food blogger at VittlesVamp.com. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

High in the Lebanese mountains above Beirut sits Beit Trad, an eighteenth-century family home that Sarah Trad transformed into a guesthouse devoted to Levantine hospitality. The house brings together family history, Lebanese design, food, and the belief that welcoming someone into your home is an essential part of life. In A House in the Lebanese Mountains: Recipes & Stories from Beit Trad (Thames & Hudson, 2026), Trad tells the story of Beit Trad and the family who shaped it, alongside recipes for the generous Lebanese food served around its tables. Part memoir, part cookbook, and part portrait of a remarkable house, the book captures interiors that mix Eastern and Western influences and reflect the layered identity of the Levant. The recipes range from Beit Trad's elaborate breakfasts to vegetable dishes, stews, meats, fish, and sweets. Throughout, Trad explores hosting as both an art and a practice: making guests feel completely at home while recognizing the work and dedicated team required to make that sense of ease seem effortless. Sarah Trad joins New Books Network to discuss Levantine hospitality, her family's house and its transformation into a guesthouse, and her mother's influence on her understanding of hosting. She also talks about what it takes to run Beit Trad, the relationship between beauty and appetite, and recipes including Pasta B Laban – a decidedly non-Italian spaghetti dish with garlic and yogurt that is pure Lebanese comfort food – and a strawberry and orange salad that showcases the magic of orange blossom water. Interview by Laura Goldberg, longtime food blogger at VittlesVamp.com. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Saying yes to everyone sounds generous right up until you notice who is actually paying for it. Lesley Logan and Brad Crowell recap their favorite takeaways from the conversation with transformational coach, speaker, and author Peter Kolat, also known as Polish Peter, who landed in Detroit at fourteen with no English and rebuilt his life after a recession and a divorce. Brad gets honest about the job he stayed in way too long and what finally made it unbearable.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:What the three letters in DEI actually mean without the politics.The costs of saying yes to everyone and everything in your life.The difference between a business plan and a personal life vision.How to spot the signal that you are on the wrong path.Peter's daily practice for hearing yourself think again.Episode References/Links:upLift Teacher Training - https://xxll.co/uwseLevate Mentorship Program - https://lesleylogan.co/elevateOPC Flashcards - https://opc.me/flashcardsNevada SPCA - https://nevadaspca.org/OPC Posters - https://opc.me/postersCambodia October Waitlist (2027) - https://crowsnestretreats.comPilates on Tour Goa India (December) - https://xxll.co/potOPC Winter Tour - https://opc.me/eventsAmericans for Immigrant Justice - http://aijustice.orgThe Authentic Self Rebirth by Peter Kolat - https://myauthenticrebirth.com/free-bookv2Submit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsGuest Bio:Peter Kolat is a transformational coach, speaker, and author who helps people uncover the quiet beliefs holding them back and rebuild on more honest ground. Known as "Polish Peter," he arrived in the U.S. from Poland at 14 with no English, trained as an architect, and later moved into coaching after a personal and financial turning point reshaped his path. Today he's recognized for a direct, no-nonsense style and a talent for naming the limiting beliefs people can't see in themselves. A Robbins-Madanes certified coach, Peter has spoken at more than 100 live events and authored The Authentic Self Rebirth. He co-hosts The Lifeonaire Show and leads a national coaching company. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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If something is missing, if something feels like it's missing, then you're probably not being true to yourself, right? You're not being your authentic self.Lesley Logan 0:12  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Brad Crowell 0:53  Take it away.Lesley Logan 0:56  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap for my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the authentic convo I had with Peter Kolat, also known as Polish Peter, in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, feel free to pause us now. Go back and listen to Polish Peter, and then come back and join us.Brad Crowell 1:15  Yeah, Polish Peter, I love it.Lesley Logan 1:15  I know. It's on his Zoom call. It says Polish Peter.Brad Crowell 1:18  That's what he calls himself. Yeah, he explained it in the episode. I kind of had a good chuckle, but yeah, a lot of fun.Lesley Logan 1:24  I mean, he's Polish.Brad Crowell 1:25  Well, there's that. I mean, I hope I would hope he's Polish. He better fucking be Polish if he's calling himself Polish. Lesley Logan 1:32  And he's not just Polish. He's from Poland. So there's that. All right. So today is September 17th. Here's the deal, guys. We're gonna get down and dirty because you know what? The day before recording this, I'm a little, I'm a little annoyed. So we're in on this stuff. It is whether or not people wanted to celebrate this day. There, we are celebrating it. It is National DEI Day.Brad Crowell 1:53  It's September 17th.Lesley Logan 1:54  That's right. It's September 17th. It is National DEI Day. National DEI Day champions our nation's commitment to diversity, equity, and inclusion every September 17th, sharing its date with Constitution and Citizenship. Wow, with Constitution and Citizenship Days. I wonder if the people who aren't into DEI have ever read the Constitution or taken a citizenship test. Anyways, it reinforces values of democracy and belonging. I am zesty today, and belonging. Communities nationwide are encouraged to wear blue and unite to celebrate equity in action. Discover resources, participate in discussions, and support initiatives that foster a truly inclusive society. So, Brad put some stuff together.Brad Crowell 2:36  Yeah, DEI. Here's what each word actually means, but completely stripped of political charge that's been layered with all of the craziness that's been happening.Lesley Logan 2:47  Okay, by the way, if anyone's triggered by the fact that we're talking about DEI, they're already gone. Brad Crowell 2:51  So yeah, this is probably already gone. Lesley Logan 2:53  Yeah, but this is for our people who needed to explain it to their family members. Brad Crowell 2:57  Well, yeah, I think it's really important. DEI is just this supercharged acronym. We told my dad that our government is going after people about. They've shut down grants to universities because the university has a DEI class. But what is DEI? What does that actually mean? Right. The D stands for Diversity. The E is Equity. The I is Inclusion. But D includes the presence of people with different backgrounds, identities, and experiences in a group or organization. So that's all different backgrounds, identities, and experiences. This includes, but is not limited to, race, ethnicity, gender, age, sexual orientation, disability, socioeconomic background. Right?Lesley Logan 3:42  Yeah. If you're poor.Brad Crowell 3:43  You're DEI, right? National origin, so that could certainly be people from another country. It could also mean religion, and also side note, every fucking person who's ever been in the military.Lesley Logan 3:56  Yeah, you're DEI. When we told my family member, we're like, you're DEI. I'm like, you are over 65, so that's an age thing. You are a veteran.Brad Crowell 4:07  Yep.Lesley Logan 4:08  DEI.Brad Crowell 4:09  Yeah.Lesley Logan 4:09  There it is. You are. I have a sweatshirt that says you're probably DEI too.Brad Crowell 4:14  Yeah. So that's the D. So E is designing systems so that outcomes aren't predetermined by someone's starting point, so it's not the same as equality, giving everyone the same thing, right? This is equity. Equity means adjusting for the fact that different people face different barriers.Lesley Logan 4:35  Yeah, I mean, if you grow up in a poor area of town in the U.S., that likely means that your school has less funding, which means if you're able to be a straight-A student in your school with less funding, equity means that they see you similarly to someone who went to a very high-end school versus like, "Oh well, you got a 3.8 at this school, but these people have 4.2's." No, they're like, "Oh hi, that's insane, that's amazing, whoa, we should look at that."Brad Crowell 5:08  Well, it's adjusting. Yeah, exactly. It's adjusting for the fact that there are different barriers of entry. Right? So that's what equity is.Lesley Logan 5:15  There's also a really interesting thing. You can see it on YouTube. It was going around during 2020 and 2021, where they just put people on a starting line and they ask them questions, right? Did you have this? Did you have that growing up? Did you have this growing up? And you have to take certain steps forward or backward, and then you look and you see people of different socioeconomic backgrounds and races often are behind other places, and it doesn't mean that we take these other people down. It's that we actually go, "Oh, we should actually account for that and give these people an opportunity to even the drawing, give them a better opportunity at life."Brad Crowell 5:52  I stands for Inclusion. Whether people who are present actually feel welcome, they feel heard, and they're able to participate fully, or whether they're just technically in the room, right? Making sure that everyone has a voice.Lesley Logan 6:06  It's like in the '80s, or I don't remember when they, for, "Oh well, that board has a woman on the board, but she doesn't ever get to talk, and her points are never listened to." Then it's not actually included.Brad Crowell 6:18  She's the talking woman on the board.Lesley Logan 6:19  Yeah.Brad Crowell 6:20  Right. Yeah. So who is included in DEI? This is where it often gets—I'm just going to sum it all up. This is often where it gets misunderstood. DEI frameworks were born out of civil rights and anti-discrimination work. So, in practice, the groups most often centered are Black, Latino, Hispanic, Indigenous, Asian, women, LGBTQ+, people with disabilities, and veterans. However, the framework itself is not exclusive to those groups. A white man from rural Appalachia with no college degree is considered diverse in a room full of Ivy League professionals, and equity would ask whether he has had the same shot at advancement. Right? So.Lesley Logan 7:02  But they would never tell that guy that.Brad Crowell 7:06  Okay, well, the political fight isn't really just about the definition; it's about whether these frameworks produce fair outcomes or create preferential treatment, right? That's the—that is where the argument is: Is it right for us to give a voice to the guy from Appalachia? Are we giving preferential treatment to him, or is it producing a fair outcome? And that's where, you know, that's now where opinion comes into play, right? It's about that and whether institutional programs built around DEI actually deliver on the premise or become performative checkbox exercises, right? So it's definitely easy to just turn into a checkbox exercise. This is where reasonable people land on different places.Lesley Logan 7:45  Yeah, I mean, look, I don't know that DEI mandates, the wrong word, but values in a company are always going to be perfect. I think everything is going to have flaws, and there's always going to be blind spots to different things just based on experiences, no matter where you land on the board, but I do think that punishing people because they have DEI as a value system or something that's important to them is wrong, and also just assuming that somebody who is of any of the things we said got there because they were just gifted a thing is just ignorant. Brad Crowell 8:22  It would also be wrong.Lesley Logan 8:24  It's wrong to assume. "Oh, there's a person of color, or a poor person, or a woman, or a queer person in a job. It's because DEI." No, every person who interviews for a job still has to get past the interview. They still have to get there. You know what I mean? It's so interesting to me how people think that something is happening at them. We all benefit when there's different people at.Brad Crowell 8:51  Oh the stats are in. I mean, the, the if you go look at any corporation that focuses on diversity in their company, they perform better as a company. There's not even any question.Lesley Logan 9:02  100% So I don't know. We obviously, I want to say about Polish Peter, but I just think it's really important. If you're listening, there's a good chance you're probably DEI too in some way, and if you have family members who are really like, they roll their eyes at those letters, I strongly encourage you to look up and see if they fall in under DEI and explain it to them because what sounds like is that they've been brainwashed that people are having a leg up on them, which is not true. And if they just recognized that they also fall under these things, there are systems for them. Like, this is the thing that frustrates me the most. There are systems for people,Brad Crowell 9:38  Yeah.Lesley Logan 9:39  Who think that the world is against them. There are these things. You have to look them up. It's really frustrating, but there are these things. I hear about different things that Vegas offers people in different socioeconomic backgrounds and homes. I didn't even know existed. I'm like, how are people hearing about this? But we do have. Brad Crowell 9:55  I mean, we're watching The Pit right now. Again, literally. Lesley's on the third time through. I'm on the second time through, and there's in season two. There is a unhoused guy who he needs a bath really bad, right? And he gets in to they they they clean him up and they start talking to him and everything. And the charge nurse, the head charge nurse, says, you know, you need to work the system. The system is there to support you. You have to learn how to work the system. Right? And and so it's shoot that wrong. Lesley Logan 10:25  We have some incredible people on our teaching team and and our team who've had things that are outside of their control, just terrible things that just have sidelined their dreams. And not only did they work the system, and yes, it requires you being on long phone call holds and doing the paperwork and and keeping the receipts, but their kids are benefiting from it and Brad Crowell 10:48  Yeah, big time. Lesley Logan 10:48  So do it. Brad Crowell 10:49  In a good way.Lesley Logan 10:50  Do it.Brad Crowell 10:51  Yeah.Lesley Logan 10:51  And also we are voting in the next less than 60 days. Please consider how you are voting and who supports people. Brad Crowell 10:59  Well, first off, make sure you vote.Lesley Logan 11:01  Make sure you vote.Brad Crowell 11:02  Yeah.Lesley Logan 11:02  You can vote for whoever you want, but also think about how that person feels about other people.Brad Crowell 11:08  Yeah.Lesley Logan 11:09  You know. Anyways, we got to get into it. Brad Crowell 11:11  We're going to talk about what's coming up here and what our travel is.Lesley Logan 11:14  The upLifter, upLift Teacher Training Program. We're actually onboarding our instructors this fall, so. Brad Crowell 11:20  Our educators. Lesley Logan 11:21  Our educators, for that this fall and upLift is for people who want to become a pilates instructor or people who have had partial trainings who would like to make it a comprehensive training so they can have a career and longevity in this career. So if you are interested in my upLift teacher training program and being able to do that in person with one of our educators, xxll.co/uws. No, we still don't have a link for all these things, but we'll get there probably next year. It's a 2027 goal. All right. eLevate. That is my mentorship program. So that's for those of you who are—if you're like, "Oh, I would love to learn from you, but I'm already trained teacher." That's eLevate. We have a few spots left, and you can actually watch. Brad Crowell 11:57  Well, we might be sold out by the time you hear this in September, but yeah, we'll see. At the very least, get on the wait list for future.Lesley Logan 12:03  Just go and check, and you never know. And we'll figure out a better way to announce this stuff. lesleylogan.co/elevate. But you should go learn about it and see if it's the right thing for you. Brad Crowell 12:12  I mean, honestly, the the the reality is this: that 2027 is already sold out. 2028 is almost sold out, right? So if this is something that you're considering, it's getting further out in the future. So now is the time to start thinking about it because, you know, we might already be talking about 2029. Lesley Logan 12:29  And I won't even let them pick dates, so we're not even talking. But anyways, I want you in if you want in. I want you in. It's not some elitist thing, by the way. It's just people always, "Oh, I can't believe I got accepted." It's, yeah, you meet the requirements and why you want to join is why I do the program, and so it's a kind of a first-come, first-serve. I'm not one of those hierarchical. Is that the right word?Brad Crowell 12:49  Yeah, you nailed it.Lesley Logan 12:49  Yeah, educators where you must have been teaching 30 years, and you must bow down to me and be in my cult. No, I, I really, if you want to learn from me and you meet the why we do what we do and what you need to have done, then it's a first-come, first-serve. So there is no someone had this training and that's why they're in over someone else. Nope, nope. Also, our flashcards. Did you know that if you want to support this podcast and you're not ready to be an OPC member, there's a way to support this podcast by buying our flashcards. And when you buy our flashcards, you don't just support us. You actually support the Nevada SPCA.Brad Crowell 13:21  Hey, love that.Lesley Logan 13:22  And they do fucking great work.Brad Crowell 13:24  Yes.Lesley Logan 13:24  Yeah. opc.me/flashcards.Brad Crowell 13:26  We were able to buy all of the dogs in the. Lesley Logan 13:30  Not just the dogs, Brad. We were able to pay for 114 shelter animals' food for one week.Brad Crowell 13:35  That's amazing.Lesley Logan 13:36  And at the time, they only had 61 shelter animals, so we probably paid for two weeks of. Brad Crowell 13:40  That's what I thought. It was two weeks. The way that it worked out was it's two weeks worth of meals for the the animals that they had, the future pets that they had, and we're really proud of that, y'all. Like this is not just Lesley and I saying this. This is your participation with Online Pilates Classes. We are so excited to be able to write that check, and we write it every quarter, and it's because of you.Lesley Logan 14:03  And also, we should be updating you on Q3 soon. So stay tuned. We'll see how many more animals we we fed, or how many we paid for the adoption fees for. Anyways, posters.Brad Crowell 14:14  Yeah, people have asked us where the posters are found. The OPC posters. Just go to opc.me/posters, and then real quick, we're gonna rip through this. Yeah, we'll be in Sacramento in October for Pilates On Tour. Lesley Logan 14:26  It's sold out.Brad Crowell 14:27  It is sold out, but we'll be there, and we'll be bringing the flashcards, by the way. And then Lesley and I literally leave our van, and we take the BART into San Francisco, and we are going to hop on a plane to go to Cambodia to host our annual retreat there, which is also.Lesley Logan 14:44  Well. It's been sold out for a long time, but you can get on. You're making it sound like no one can hang out with us.Brad Crowell 14:48  No.Lesley Logan 14:48  You can get on the wailist because we will not sell tickets to 2027 until January. There is space in 2027 hangouts. But you got to be on the waitlist for that.Brad Crowell 14:58  In November, Lesley is going to be at a Pilates summit in China.Lesley Logan 15:02  Yes. Brad Crowell 15:03  Just outside of Shanghai.Lesley Logan 15:04  Still have no link for you, but I heard that they're promoting it on the Chinese socials. Brad Crowell 15:09  Yes, it is up and out. We're we're working on that.Lesley Logan 15:11  Tell your friends in China. Yeah, hopefully I can come a lot.Brad Crowell 15:15  That'd be awesome.Lesley Logan 15:16  Yeah.Brad Crowell 15:16  In December, Lesley's going to India. She's going to be in Goa.Lesley Logan 15:19  There are spaces.Brad Crowell 15:20  And there are spaces at the Pilates On Tour there, the POT there. So go to xxll.co/pot Lesley Logan 15:27  And Goa, you guys, I said yes because when you look at Goa, you too will say yes. And the way they do Goa is so different. They treat it almost like you're going on a retreat. So your ticket covers the resort, the food, the whole thing.Brad Crowell 15:39  Oh, nice.Lesley Logan 15:40  Yeah.Brad Crowell 15:41  You have food there too. That's great.Lesley Logan 15:42  Well, of course they're gonna feed me. They always do, but everyone you fed.Brad Crowell 15:45  Not you, I meant the ticket attendees. Lesley Logan 15:46  Yeah, they get everything, and then it covers their their end of resort. We're all at a resort together.Brad Crowell 15:51  Very cool.Lesley Logan 15:52  It's gonna be like the White Lotus, but not no murders, no affairs.Brad Crowell 15:58  Awesome, and then Lesley literally flies from India straight to Denver, which you know that we're in Vegas. But I'm driving the van to Denver. She's gonna fly from India to Denver, and I'll pick her up, and we're gonna hit the road for our winter tour for OPC. Lesley Logan 16:14  Weird, wild, and crazy, and people think I'm 30 years old.Brad Crowell 16:16  Yeah, so come join us. Go to opc.me/events opc.me/events. Lesley Logan 16:21  And if you're like, oh, I'm gonna do next year's, just so you know, I've accepted nothing for 2027.Brad Crowell 16:28  For the winter tour?Lesley Logan 16:29  No, I mean for any of these POTs orBrad Crowell 16:32  Any of the events, yes. Lesley Logan 16:33  Or whatever. We haven't at this moment that we're recording. We have, I've accepted. Oh, I've accepted one thing, but I haven't had the contract on it yet, so. Brad Crowell 16:41  That's true. That's true. Oh, actually, before we leave, hold on, stick around, stick around. We are very excited to talk about the charity of the week. So this week's charity is we're going to be highlighting the Americans for Immigrant Justice. It's a Miami-based nonprofit law firm fighting for immigrant basic human rights for nearly 30 years. Since 1996, they provided free legal representation because, unlike criminal court, there's no guaranteed right to an attorney in immigration proceedings. I just want to say that again. We all know that the court provides us an attorney if we need one, right? We do, we do, we get that, yes. But if you are an immigrant, if you're going through immigration proceedings, that is not a guaranteed right, right? So what do you? First off, you might not even know anything about our legal system, and then what? You're supposed to represent yourself? That's crazy.Lesley Logan 17:34  Well, we have friends who, because of all this ICE shit, are being thrown into representing people because it's hitting the federal courts now, which is not normally how it goes, and they are having to learn immigration shit.Brad Crowell 17:44  Yeah, and so, yeah, so this organization offers literally free legal counsel. It's all in the Miami-Dade area, so South Florida, but it's—it's—it's amazing. They've provided attorneys to more than 175,000 people from over 160 countries. That's amazing. They're the only provider offering on-site legal help at Miami-Dade's domestic violence shelter. They do not just immigration, but they also do violence, like domestic violence. They've exposed abusive conditions inside detention centers in Florida and on the Texas border. And in 2025, they won a federal injunction blocking a Florida law that would have made it a felony for certain undocumented people to simply be in the state. Lesley Logan 18:23  Wow, this is really cool. And also, I'm sure if you don't live in Florida, I bet you they have friends and colleagues in different states.Brad Crowell 18:30  Yeah, they're four-star rated by Charity Navigator. Your donation actually goes to real on-the-ground work for people who have nowhere else to turn. And you can find out more at aijustice.org. AIjustice.org.Lesley Logan 18:43  I love that. It's really important. You know, there's a lot of ish happening right now, and it's, it's very scary, and it's all meant to just scare. It's all scare tactics, but also these are real people who are being locked up in places that it's not how it's normally done. They're actually, when people say, "Do it the right way," a lot of these people are. They actually went to their immigration appointment and they got picked up. It takes a long time. So, anyways, please take a look at how you can support people who have immigrated here in your areas. If this organization doesn't work, there's probably a lot of different ways you can support those in your community. Do that.Brad Crowell 19:17  Yeah, and if you have a recommendation for a charity that we should investigate and check out, send us a text 310-905-5534, or you can submit that to beitpod.com/questions. You can also leave us a win for the Friday episodes, and if you know, you know. Stick around. We'll be right back. All right, let's talk about Peter, known as Polish Peter and sometimes Polish Tony, for his Tony Robbins-esque style. He's a transformational coach, speaker, and author. Born in communist Poland, Peter landed in Detroit in 1991 at the age of 14 with no English and Big Dreams of the USA, shaped by Hollywood movies. He trained as an architect, but after the 2008 recession and a divorce, he found his way into coaching. Today, he helps people like—all the stories holding them back, and asks the tough, sobering questions that people need to hear, rather than what they want to hear. He does have a book. It's called The Authentic Self Rebirth, and we'll put the link in the show notes, so check it out below. Lesley Logan 20:13  But he's got such great energy. Brad Crowell 20:16  Yeah, my Authentic Birth. You can find it, and he has a book there. It's free right now, apparently, actually.Lesley Logan 20:21  No, you just pay for shipping handling.Brad Crowell 20:22  Yeah, awesome. So yeah, yeah, it was a great convo.Lesley Logan 20:25  I agree. I don't. I think I don't even remember. Remember when the 747s were falling out of the sky, like they were having issues.Brad Crowell 20:34  Yeah, sure. Like two years ago.Lesley Logan 20:35  No, more like before COVID. But there was that. Was it really? Yeah, maybe they weren't 747s. Maybe they were—remember the Boeing? There were Boeings, and there was two that the pilots were trying to do something, and the computer was doing the opposite thing. Yeah, and then you were on a plane to New Orleans, and I had to get on a plane to Poland, and it was one of these Boeing numbers, and I started having a panic attack, and you weren't answering your phone because you were on a plane,Brad Crowell 21:00  I think it was 2023, babe.Lesley Logan 21:02  No, definitely not. It was before COVID. We lived in LA, and so I'm texting you, "I think I'm gonna die now. I'm going." Brad Crowell 21:10  Oh yes, I do remember this.Lesley Logan 21:11  And I love you so much. Here's where I come down. Brad Crowell 21:15  This was your first trip to Poland.Lesley Logan 21:17  My first trip to Poland, and they made me check my bag, which you know how much I hate because I said it was too heavy, and so of course I found some tequila and some kombucha, and I made myself a margarita at the airport. And I'm walking around drinking my margarita that I made, and I get myself on this plane. I was like, okay, if the plane takes off and nothing happens in 20 minutes, I think we're okay. So I set a timer, and I'm just sitting there with my timer. What? Nothing happened.Brad Crowell 21:43  What? No idea what you said.Lesley Logan 21:44  Well, I was just like watching my timer. I was just watching the timer. I was watching 20 minutes tick down, right? Because I was like, "This is—this is when it's going to happen. It's going to happen the next 20 minutes." And this woman next to me, when there was no one in the middle seat, she was, "I'm scared to fly too," and I was like, "Oh yeah, normally no, but this is one of those planes that goes down, so I'm just scared to be on this one." And she started talking about being living in communist Poland.Brad Crowell 22:06  She did?Lesley Logan 22:07  Yeah. And she told me it was so wonderful because she talked nonstop. Even my timer went off. She just kept talking, and she told me her whole life trying to escape communist Poland and how her family got to the U.S. and because in communist Poland you couldn't have access to your passport, so you had to have different reasons to get access to it. And then they watched you heavily when you had access to your passport. And she and her family were able to escape Poland and come to the United States.Brad Crowell 22:37  That's amazing.Lesley Logan 22:37  Yes, and it was a beautiful story. It was, and then she's like, "And I'm going back to see family." I'm like, so. Brad Crowell 22:43  Why would you do that? Okay. Lesley Logan 22:44  But it's not communist. Anyways. But it was. I just, anyways, I thought of her when I thought of that story and thought of her when with Peter because how difficult for his family to come here and then to be a child. Now he's in Detroit. How many Polish people are in Detroit. He's in Detroit. He doesn't know English, and English is. You think Polish is hard? English is hard. So, anyways, he operates, and this is probably why, is because he operates under the belief that life happens for me, not to me. And I know we've all heard that before, but you really do have to think about that in a way that's, that helps you because shit happens, and if you really can think about it, he, you know, in 2008 he lost all the things and his partner and all this stuff, and if he can think about this is happening for me and see the opportunities that are there to grow and to become a different person and to have a different life, so he definitely had some really good explanations. He said, imagine banging your head against the drywall, like something's going to give.Brad Crowell 23:42  Something will give.Lesley Logan 23:43  It will, and if you live at a flipped house, it will definitely give. But it's not good. You don't want to do that. He does—he said you should figure out what the root cause of the issue was going on. Like, really going back in time, and I think a lot of us stick to the surface level. This happened, so this is the thing. But there's often a first domino that starts the effect. So he also, I really like when he talked about the different patterns that signal a wrong direction, and we have to pivot. And my God, I know we all hate that word. It's still like a trigger word for us. But there's nothing wrong with a good pivot. I don't know. I'm a pivot queen.Brad Crowell 24:19  I think it's a great skill to have. I mean, it's also an important time to step back and reevaluate.Lesley Logan 24:27  Well, I was just talking with some eLevate people this week about how sometimes they get so super focused on this one thing in a person doing an exercise, and I love how you are a dog with a bone on that. But you got to zoom out because if you don't zoom out, you're actually missing that these three things are happening, which is probably why the thing you're zoomed in is happening there. And if you don't zoom out, then you're actually going to be going in the wrong direction. Where if you zoomed out and made a pivot, it doesn't mean you're a bad teacher. It actually means you're, you're going, "Whoa, hold on! I have more information, and now I can take us in the right direction." No, that's what.Brad Crowell 25:06  Well, I really loved what he was talking about. How do we know that we're being authentic? Because that's just be yourself. Just be authentic.Lesley Logan 25:13  I love this because everyone talks about being authentic. It's so annoying, but I love the word. Yeah, how do you know if you are?Brad Crowell 25:18  He said when you are true to yourself, he said, "You'll know when you're true to yourself if it feels like nothing is missing," right? If something is missing, if something feels like it's missing, then you're probably not being true to yourself, right? You're not being your authentic self. He also said that if you're living from stories of what the world told you to be, not how you need to be, right? So it's, this goes back to all the, you know, parallel here is like magazines or society telling you what this is how you should do it, and it's not necessarily the right path for you, right? For me, yeah, I agree. Yeah, you know, so I think it's amazing when you are pressured by something outside of you. That could be your parents. That could be your school. That could be your church. That could be whatever it might be. Your job. There's tension. There's obviously tension there. Sometimes the pressure is good. They're helping you with your path, but you know if the pressure is not good, right? It makes me think of my job that I had before I finally quit. Yeah, I mean, look, my parents pushed me to be a better student. You know, that's a good thing. My job pushed me to do things that could I do those things? Yes. Should I do those things? Probably shouldn't have done those things. You know, there was so much turmoil and tension in doing those things, but I was, I felt stuck. Felt super, super stuck. I need to get paid. I need to, you know, that's what's keeping me here. Is the only thing that's keeping me here is the paycheck, right? And I, it became very clear over time. I can't keep operating this way. I cannot keep doing the things I'm doing, you know, because I am not being authentic to myself. I don't believe in the things that I'm doing. I don't, I don't want to be doing the things that I'm doing, but I'm still doing them for some reason, right? And so, you know, I think that there's that internal frustration that you have, and that is a huge indicator that you're not being your authentic self.Lesley Logan 27:21  Yeah, I think I look back at my job I had in retail, which I do love and I'm really grateful for. But I kept taking promotions, expecting like the next thing to be better, the next thing to be better, and then I'm like, I gotta move cities, and that's gonna make it better. And then it's—you keep saying, "And then once this happens, then it'll be better." And it's actually no, if that keeps happening, there's something missing, and so you're not fully being authentic. And you got to take some time to think about that means and go get to know yourself. You know, go watch Runaway Bride and see how long it took her to figure out what she liked. You know, it takes time.Brad Crowell 27:52  Yeah, I mean, you know, I think the idea of getting to know yourself will help you create clarity when you have that tension. It's really hard, you know, to step aside and reevaluate things. It often comes with major life change, you know. For him, he was talking about how getting divorced was a reality check, and it made him do a lot of self-inflection.Lesley Logan 28:20  Self-inflection, reflection?Brad Crowell 28:22  Inflection.Lesley Logan 28:24  Self-inflection.Brad Crowell 28:25  Yeah, right? Lesley Logan 28:26  I don't think that's right. I don't want to correct you, but I don't think that's right. Self-inflection?Brad Crowell 28:32  Maybe it's self-reflection.Lesley Logan 28:33  It's reflection. Brad Crowell 28:34  What is inflection? What does that even mean?Lesley Logan 28:36  Well, this is when I'm in—I'm inflecting my voice. Like, I'm doing inflection. I'm inflecting this way. I am doing it like this. Like, inflection is like what you do with sounds.Brad Crowell 28:47  Well, we're gonna inflect in just a minute. So stick around. We'll be right back when we we inflect on those Be It Action Items.Lesley Logan 28:53  Oh my god, you guys! It's a Friday night.Brad Crowell 28:55  It's definitely Thursday.Lesley Logan 29:00  Leave it in. Just leave it in. Brad Crowell 29:03  We'll be right back. Brad Crowell 29:07  All right, welcome back. Let's talk about those be it action items. What bold, executable, intrinsic, or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Polish Peter? He identifies as a recovering people pleaser. He said that if you say yes to everything and everyone except the things that are most important to you, what ends up happening most of the time is the people who are closest to you get hurt the most. I'm going to say that again. If you say yes to everyone else, everyone except for the things that are important to you, the people that are closest to you get hurt the most. That was really interesting to think about. He also pointed out the people who are always told to write business plans, but nobody ever tells you to write a vision for your own personal life. I thought that was also really intriguing. So, but the thing, but let me get back to the thing about the people get hurt the most are the people closest to you. Think about this. This is—this is actually one of the things we talk about with OPC. You gotta put yourself first so that you can be the better you for your family, friends, coworkers, job, whatever it might be. For yourself, you have to put yourself first.Lesley Logan 30:20  I agree. Also, I was just watching a shitty reality TV show, and these people were with terrible people, and they're, you can watch the people-pleasers trying to make it work, and some of it was manipulation and coercion, but they're trying to people-please their way out of the situation, andBrad Crowell 30:35  It was some inflection.Lesley Logan 30:36  Yeah. And other person feel really good, but guess who got hurt? Their friends, their family, the people they cared about, because those people could see this partner is not good for them, and they could see what this person was doing, jumping through hoops to make this partner good for them. And it's, they ended up losing friends and losing connection with family members. And so you ought to be mindful. Yeah, I agree. Your OPC example was perfect. Brad Crowell 31:00  Yeah. Moving on to the business plan for your life, like writing a vision for your life. He said to stop being a people pleaser. He wrote out his own vision for his own life, and he blocked out personal priorities in his calendar to ensure those spots were not taken up by others or other commitments when he was usually saying yes. And he said the payoff was when people would ask for his time. He would say, "Hey, let me get back to you on that," and then he would go sit down and he would think, "Does this align with my vision? Is this going to help me with my vision, or is it going to take me further away from my vision?" Right?Lesley Logan 31:36  I have a filter.Brad Crowell 31:37  But also that sounds super selfish. Does this align with my vision? Is it going to help me with my vision, or is it going to take me further away?Lesley Logan 31:45  I think this selfish needs a rebrand.Brad Crowell 31:48  Right. So self-care isn't selfish. We talked about that a whole lot back in the day, but the idea here is, yeah, it might sound selfish, but because he had not put himself first in the past, his entire life fell apart. So on round two, he was major change needs to happen. I'm going to run all of these things through this filter of how aligned is this thing with what I need for me. In addition to, I'm sure there's ways in there he can do both, but there are certainly things in there that will not serve him at all. And he's, "Hold on a minute. I don't know if I can do this anymore." So good for him. That's a really powerful thing to learn. And now he's helping people with it.Lesley Logan 32:33  Yeah. I also definitely understand feeling bad when I say no to things that don't align with what I want to do. It's not about—I don't feel bad, right? While this is going on, we were asked to be somewhere for an event, and we're available, but it's the only month to be fucking home, the rest of the year, it's it, and so I said we can't make it because it's the only month not on plane, and I'm really excited for you, and so of course I feel some FOMO. I feel, "Oh my God, are we letting people down?" And also, I can't do it. I will not be present enough for October events, November events, December events. I can't do it. So it's actually not selfish because going back to the people pleasing thing, if I had said yes, then the people coming to our events the rest of the year are going to get an exhausted version of me, so I had to say no, and it's not selfish; it's self-preservation.Brad Crowell 33:29  Right.Lesley Logan 33:30  Yeah. Anyways, I like that he said literally every day be with yourself. I do this all the time, so I couldn't agree more. I actually get really annoyed when I can't be with myself for four plus hours. I think it's really important. Find ways to be with yourself. Some people want to be with themselves in movement. Some people want to be themselves meditation, whatever. But you got to be with yourself without the podcast in the ear. I know this podcast, but so as much as I want you to keep listening, find 15 other minutes to be with yourself. But be with yourself. He suggested being in front of a camera or a mirror and just be with yourself and just be quiet. I think that's cool, especially if you don't do things with the camera. I'm in front of a camera all fucking day. I don't want to see my face anymore, so most of my time with myself is not seeing my face. I really appreciate that, but then it's really hilarious because I'll be with myself for four hours, and I'll put a camera. I'm like, "Wow, I walk the dogs like this." But anyways, I couldn't agree more because I think it's really important that you you just take time to be with you without any extra input. So I love that. I'm Lesley LoganBrad Crowell 34:35  And I'm Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 34:36  We're so happy you're here. Thanks for being here. This is episode 734. That's insane! Insane! Insane to me. But thanks for listening, and thanks for sharing this with friends. It's so fun to hear new listeners who are downloading the podcast and their takeaways, and share Polish Peter's episode with a friend who needs to hear it. 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Peter Kolat spent years saying yes to everyone and quietly losing himself in the process. A transformational coach and author, he tells Lesley Logan how a divorce and what he calls his optimistic depression became the turning point that rebuilt his life. Peter breaks down how to catch people-pleasing in the act, write a one-page vision that protects your priorities, and get honest about who you actually need to become. This one is for anyone tired of performing and ready to just be themselves.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:The belief that life happens for you rather than against you.Reading the difference between a fear-driven stop and a real pivot.The hidden cost people-pleasing carries into your closest relationships.Writing a one-page life vision that protects your real priorities.Asking the sobering question that reveals who you must become next.Episode References/Links:Peter Kolat's Website - https://polishpeter.com/Authentic Self Rebirth Free Ebook - https://myauthenticrebirth.comPeter Kolat's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/authenticselfrebirthPeter Kolat's Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/peterkolatPeter Kolat's YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@HiddenMasteryMindshiftsPeter Kolat's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/peterkolatPeter Kolat's X - https://x.com/peterkolatSubmit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsGuest Bio:Peter Kolat is a transformational coach, speaker, and author who helps people uncover the quiet beliefs holding them back and rebuild on more honest ground. 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You say yes to everything and everyone except for the things that are most important to you. I know deep down inside. You do know deep down inside. I know I should not be saying yes, but I'm saying yes, right? And what ends up happening most of the time? The people who are closest to you get hurt the most.Lesley Logan 0:19  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 1:02  You guys, I'm excited for this conversation. It's really fun. We got to talk a lot of things. We got to talk about rock bottoms, divorce, finding a partner, authenticity, true authenticity, people pleasing. My people pleasers, you know, hear this podcast. It's so good. So Polish Peter is our guest today. He is an author of a book you're gonna want to read, especially if you are, ah, I know I need to be authentic, but authenticity been ruined. We just have a really great conversation around that, and I think this is really going to help those who are feeling a little stuck. Those need a reminder to keep going. Those of you who've just kind of lost the way or have been, why is this happening to me? All great stuff in this episode. So here is Polish Peter. All right, be babe. I'm really excited. This is gonna be a fun conversation. I already know because I've already talked to this person before, and we're just gonna get into it. Polish Peter, who are you? What do you rock at? Well, are you Polish Peter? Is that your formal name? Should we give a last name, or we just go by Polish Peter? Polish Peter Kolat 1:55  No, there is a last name. It's called Kolat, Peter Kolat. But what ended up happening over the years in my industry, I've been now coaching people and things like that, I've been referred to as Polish Tony, like in regards to Tony Robbins, and then the kind of Polish Peter kind of stuck with me. So that's how it just happened like that.Lesley Logan 2:11  I love it. You know, that's how nicknames come about. I used to always go by my last name, and then people just called me LL, and I was going do I want to be LL, and actually, I do. It's like a whole alter ego. I step into a different power. It's super fun. So you're an inspiration. How did we get here? How did that happen? Did you always be someone who was inspiring, like a Tony Robbins, or was there a journey that got you there?Polish Peter Kolat 2:34  No, I drank some Kool-Aid. No, I think it was. I mean, I think my whole life. I think there was something that I thought I was something bigger than I was meant for something bigger. I don't know. There was some kind of innate kind of a feeling that I wasn't meant to work for someone else. It was always something that I needed to know, do my own path, kind of a thing. So I think there was always something like that. And the more I started, especially after 2011, I went more into this, because people kept telling me, "Listen, I think you should be a coach. I think you should be the person who's speaking to people because of who you are, your story. I think would benefit a lot of people." And when you start looking from that perspective, you start to, okay, let's do it. Let's try it on. See how it happens.Lesley Logan 3:20  Yeah, I think we're all meant to step into something bigger than ourselves, and some of us follow that calling, and some of us get stuck. So, do you feel like you did something uniquely different that you didn't get stuck like other people? Was it scary to try to do something bigger than you? What was the journey there?Polish Peter Kolat 3:38  Yeah, I mean that's a really good question. I think that is true. People do get sometimes stuck, and I think for me it was. Think about it this way: every single person in the world has some kind of a story, right? And I don't think these stories are meant to just die. I think the stories are meant to you help other people on their journey because my circumstances might be completely different, but maybe sharing my story with you maybe will help you give you some kind of different impact that you are going to make different choices in life or inspire you or whatever might be. So I think we're all called to do that. Now I think it kept me going is couple of beliefs that I have. One, I have a belief that life happens for me, not to me. So if life happens for me, not to me, then there must be something behind that. You know what I mean, that drives me. The other thing I have this belief that, and sometimes that helped me, sometimes it didn't really help me, is that I don't quit. I don't quit very easily. And what ended up happening, I when I sometimes talk to my students, and this is not the best of analogies, but at some point I came up with, and I just keep using it. Imagine if you're standing in front of a drywall and you're banging against the wall, something is going to give. Either you're going to stop banging your head against the wall, or the drywall is going to break through.Lesley Logan 4:52  Yeah. Polish Peter Kolat 4:53  And when you start looking, not giving up, maybe sometimes you need to pivot a little bit. But if you don't give up in life, I think you will be able to accomplish a lot more and drive you more towards what you've meant to be here on this earth for. You know what I mean? That you go into your calling, sort of speak.Lesley Logan 5:10  Yeah, like you just got to keep going. And I do think some people get to a wall and they go, "Oh, this is a sign that I'm not meant to do this." That's what I hear people. "Oh, well, there was that door closed and that door closed. This must not be meant for me, or it's leading you down a hallway. That door, you know what I mean." But so, how do you know if you're supposed to keep going or if you have hit the wall and you're going to break? What's the signs that you look for to keep going?Polish Peter Kolat 5:39  That's a really good question. That's one of those things that we all trying to figure it out, right? Lesley Logan 5:44  I was hoping you had the answer. Polish Peter Kolat 5:45  Well, I had the answer, right? I mean, let's bring somebody else in the podcast. Maybe somebody else will know. No, but I think what I've discovered up to this point is this: people, when they stop, why am I stopping? Am I stopping because there is a fear that's driving that decision, right, and worry or whatever might be. If it's some kind of a negative emotion, negative decision, negative something, I think I think that's us just stopping, not because we're not meant to go through that door, and also there might be people around you or things that are happening around you that gives you this pattern that says you're going down the wrong direction. Right? And what ends up happening is the pattern around you says keep going, and you feel like, oh, I don't know if I can do this. I don't know if I am ready for this. And all of a sudden you get a call that you want to be speak in front of 10,000 people, and you've spoke in front of 500 at most ever, and this is collectively speaking, you're like, ah, how am I going to do this?Lesley Logan 6:51  Yeah. Polish Peter Kolat 6:52  But, you know, maybe this is an opportunity that you've been kind of working towards. So it requires some faith, requires courage, right? So if I think it requires the courage, requires this little bit of a faith. I think that tells you that you're going down the right direction.Lesley Logan 7:08  Yeah, yeah. I've had some people go, "I want to speak on these big stages," and but they won't say yes to a stage of 10 people. And it's, well, if you've never spoken in front of 10, it's hard to speak in front of 100. Recently I actually taught a class for over 300 people, and there was some people like, "Oh my god, I want to do that." And you get, yeah, guess what? I had to teach to five people first, and then at some point that got to be 20 people, and then at some point the number was 50, and then this earlier this year, the biggest number of people in one class was 85, and if I hadn't taught the 85, I couldn't have taught 300. I wouldn't know what to do with 300 people. You have to build the muscle up, and I agree. Like there's that. Okay, we have to take a journey back though, because you have a story. So, before you became an optimism, helping coach, inspiring people to find their way. What got you here?Polish Peter Kolat 7:55  Well, so I was born in Poland during the communist. Poland was communism at that particular point. Then in '89 got abolished. I came here to United States when I was 14 at '91. Not because I wanted to, it's because my mom was already here, and this was a land of opportunity. Money grows on trees here. By the way, I kid you not, Lesley. I actually, as a kid growing up, I had to believe that there was money trees in here. Imagine my disappointment when I came here. Oh, here's the other thing. One, there is no money trees. There was a different conversation about that. But when I was flying over here to United States at 14 years old on a plane, they played two movies. The first movie was by Eddie Murphy.Lesley Logan 8:37  Coming to America? Polish Peter Kolat 8:38  Guess what? Coming to America. Probably complete coincidence, right? Had to be complete coincidence.Lesley Logan 8:45  Yeah. Polish Peter Kolat 8:45  And the second one was Eddie Murphy movie as well, and that was Beverly Hills Cop when he was in L.A. Okay?Lesley Logan 8:53  Oh my God. Polish Peter Kolat 8:54  So I am resisting coming here, but I'm looking at this movie and I'm, you know what? This might not be so bad. You got palm trees, which, I love palm trees. You got beautiful skies, skyscrapers, sports cars. Right? Lesley Logan 9:08  Where did you end up? Did you end up in Ohio? Did you get to L.A.?Polish Peter Kolat 9:12  Well, I ended up in Detroit.Lesley Logan 9:15  I don't think there's a palm tree in Detroit. Polish Peter Kolat 9:17  No, there isn't. So imagine my disappointment, right?Lesley Logan 9:20  Yeah. Also, in Detroit when they were going down, because I feel like that's about when yeah.Polish Peter Kolat 9:25  '91. There was the you know Kilpatrick thing later on and all that kind of stuff, right? So there was the whole discussion, and then you know I went to high school, was learning English because I don't know any English, you know. In fact, I remember thinking to myself, wait a minute, am I Polish or am I polish, right? Because the word looks exactly the same, right? I mean, talk about confusing. I mean, you know, language.Lesley Logan 9:46  Yes.Polish Peter Kolat 9:47  So got the you know graduate of high school, went to college, got a degree in architecture, which was inspired by my uncle because he built his entire house. Did you know that? And I'm sharing my story. I'm revealing a lot of the belief system right that was driving this thing, my uncle, and so I'm going to architecture. Graduated high school architecture when actually became an architect here in Michigan. I was developing a lot of buildings while I was doing this. Ended up finding my wife, got three kids. After that, we started you know one kid, second kid, third kid, you know. And I in about 2007, I don't know if you remember what happened in 2008, but I saw the writing on the wall here, especially in Michigan, because we got the big three, and I started my own company on the side, and it was a marketing company to be able to help real estate investors and people in real estate, you know, market themselves. So I kind of started seeing the writing on the wall. I went to in about maybe 2009 full time into that, and I started growing this business. Then in 2010, my wife came to me and she said she wants a divorce because guess what? Peter got lost in the entire business. By the way, one of the beliefs that draw of that was the people pleaser. So gotta make sure everybody's happy, right? So there was that conversation, and so after that, for about two years, I went into what I called my optimistic depression. And when I say that, some people get confused. What does that mean? But if you are an optimistic kind of a person, I think you can understand what optimistic depression is, right?Lesley Logan 11:17  Yeah, you're like you're constantly thinking there's going to be hope on the other side, but you're depressed on the inside too.Polish Peter Kolat 11:22  Well, yes, that and on the inside, I remember asking myself that question: What the hell is wrong with me? Right? Because how is it that my whole world basically like crashed for me? Yeah, kind of thing. You know what I mean? What the hell's wrong with me? And when people come to me, you okay? Everything good? Talk to me. Right? Guess what my answer was. I'm good. I'm good. I'm great. Yeah, yeah, great. Right, and people could see it. So that's the optimistic depression. So during that particular time, I actually went through what I call my awakening, and I've learned a lot about myself. And because of that, that's when I went into a mastermind. That a friend of mine, he's my best friend Jason brought me into this company, (inaudible). Was in the mastermind group, and as I started learning all about myself, that's when people started saying, "Listen, you should be a coach because you have this way of speaking to people and asking the questions. Sort of like they call me Frank because I'll be can be frank with you. I'll be the person who would ask and people what sometimes they need to hear, and that's not what they want to hear. You know what I mean? So that's why it prompted that, and and that's when the kind of a journey started. And here I am today.Lesley Logan 12:31  Oh my goodness! Oh, what a journey! That was a difficult time for a lot of people. That 2007, 2008, but also like a lot of great things were born from there. And so it's interesting. Thank you for sharing that. And I just want to go back to the people pleaser part, and then we'll go back to optimistic depression. So we don't want to miss that one. But you mentioned it, and I want to highlight people who are people pleasers. Think, oh, I'm trying to make everybody happy, but in doing that, you make zero people happy, including yourself. And so, can we talk about what should we? What are the signs you're a people pleaser, and how do you stop? Did you stop? Are you still one?Polish Peter Kolat 13:01  Yeah. Well, hi. My name is Polish Peter. I'm a recovering people pleaser, right? So, I love your laugh, by the way. I think it's awesome.Lesley Logan 13:11  Thanks. Polish Peter Kolat 13:12  So here's the thing: sign. You say yes to everything and everyone except for the things that are most important to you. And you know, deep down inside, you do know deep down inside. I know I should not be saying yes, but I'm saying yes, right? And what ends up happening most of the time? The people who are closest to you get hurt the most, you know, especially you. How do I, you know, deal with that? Well, when I first started this entire process, one of the things I did. I wrote a vision for my life. What I want my life to look like.Lesley Logan 13:43  Okay.Polish Peter Kolat 13:44  Right. Because nobody ever tells you to write a vision for your life. They tell you to have a business vision and business plan.Lesley Logan 13:49  Yeah.Polish Peter Kolat 13:49  But nobody tells you to have a vision for your life. So I wrote it out. What does that vision look like? On one piece of paper, in present tense. And then I created a calendar that I started putting pieces from that vision to my calendar, so I started putting things in my calendar to make sure that these spots are not taken up. So, for instance, morning routine that I have in the morning, that's in the calendar. Then I put down 3:30 in the afternoon. I had the gym that I wanted to go hit the gym. Then at 6 o'clock, eat dinner. I actually put that in my calendar. People pleaser, we don't do that. I actually put in my calendar. Then between 10 a.m. and 2:30, 3 o'clock, those are my work hours because what ended up happening after my divorce, I want to make sure that I want to pick up and drop on my kids at school. So you know the drop-offs and pick-ups started like you know 9 a.m. and then I started going and seeing, you know, picking up the kids from school about 2:30, so that was a hard kind of a bounce, right? Hard deadline. And the way I was able to say no to people from that point on is because I knew myself that was going to have a hard time saying no. I would say when someone would ask me, "Hey, can you do this for me?" And I would say, "Well, let me get back to you." I think that's okay for people to say it.Lesley Logan 15:05  Yeah. Polish Peter Kolat 15:05  And then I would go, and I would say, hmm, look at my vision. I go, does this align with my vision? Is this going to help me with my vision, or is going to take me further away from my vision? And majority of the time, it would be a no, would be take me away from it. But I would go back and I would say, listen, I would love to do this for you and with you or whatever because I do. That's the people pleaser.Lesley Logan 15:28  Yeah.Polish Peter Kolat 15:28  However, my vision doesn't allow me to do that.Lesley Logan 15:31  Yeah.Polish Peter Kolat 15:32  But guess what I did? I blamed it on my vision. I'm no longer the bad guy. The vision is. You know me. And then we had the discussion. But that's how I was able to go and eliminate the whole people pleaser thing.Lesley Logan 15:42  I, okay. First of all, everyone who needs to literally write down in your notes, let me get back to you. Thanks for this. Let me get back to you so you can copy and paste it. So it's just you don't even have to think about it because you're gonna think about it and you're gonna overthink it and you're gonna rewrite it 17 times and you're gonna say yes to the thing because that was faster. So love that. And then I do love the blaming. It's not alignment with what's going on right now. I have, you know, every day someone's pestering me for something, and I have just been, oh, this, that's not gonna, I can't add one more thing to the calendar right now. But I love that you thought about me. Thank you so much. And it kills me because it's like, oh my god, I should, I should be doing more of that. I should be doing all the shoulds, right? But I, Polish Peter, you and I are very similar. I definitely think that you have to know who you want to be, where you want to go, and it has to be in your calendar. Absolutely, must be in your calendar because if it's not in your calendar. It does not get done. But of course, you have to put dinner on in your calendar because if it's if you're someone who's I fuel myself, I take care of myself. It's got to be in the calendar, otherwise you won't. Because hello, I'm ADHD, and I just realize why am I so hungry? Oh, I forgot breakfast. I didn't. I didn't look at my calendar this morning. I really appreciate that. You know, there's a course like the master class and the what's her name? Who, The Devil Wears Prada is based on? She has a course and she says she always thanks people for the work that they did, and then she will just say we're moving into a different direction right now. Thank you so much for that. We're moving, so you don't have to explain anything anyway. You tell the people the new direction. You don't have to overexplain yourself. It's just not in alignment with what is happening in this moment. So thanks so much. Okay, so now let's go back to the optimistic depression because how did you get out of just the habit of saying you're good, everything's great, I'm great. How did you get to be someone who who isn't fake because to me that's faking it right. That's not a Be It Till You See It thing. That's a faking. I'm faking being happy because I'm supposed to be happy. So how did you step out of that habit?Polish Peter Kolat 17:33  Well, one I had to recognize that I can't hide it. It's impossible to hide it. People can see it because they were coming up to me, so guess what? The people pleaser in me didn't like that, right? Because guess what happens that they can see it. You know what I mean? So that's one. And two, during the whole awakening process, I started looking from all the different beliefs that I've had. Like I said to myself, like what the hell is wrong with me? So my brain went into the conversation. Well, here is the reason what's wrong with you because you got to be very careful the types of questions that you ask yourself because brain is going to give you the answer. Right?Polish Peter Kolat 18:10  What kind of answer is it going to give you? Well, the one that satisfied that question and it's going to go back to your past and your circumstances and all those kinds of things going to tell you the answer. So as I started looking from that perspective, I started discovering different beliefs that I formed over my course of the life, and then I ask myself, does this help me to get where I want or is it actually hindering me because are these beliefs from the place of fear, worry, or they're actually from the place of abundance I want to live? So then I discover most of them were not, you know, like the people pleaser. I think it's there is a fear-based kind of a way of living, people pleaser, because for me, one of the big things that I discovered that I wanted to feel important, like I matter, like I'm, you know, someone acknowledging me, those kinds of things. So people pleaser with me will say yes to everybody because I wanted to be the guy, right? At the end, it actually costing me a lot. I started discovering that what's costing me, and then I started basically creating a new belief system. You know, getting back to that authenticity, because if I look from that perspective, think about it: when we were four or five years old, were we fearful? Probably not. Were we curious? Heck yeah, we were. Kids are very curious. They're happy. They're in the moment, right?Lesley Logan 19:26  Yeah. Polish Peter Kolat 19:27  They are just full of you know whatever. So what if I just started doing that? You know, I mean, what if I just got back to that basics of it?Lesley Logan 19:35  Yeah.Polish Peter Kolat 19:36  And I was beginning to be more present, more intentional in life, and I think that's what helped me get out of this thing. Because what ends up happening? Think about people who are depressed. A lot of times, they are never in the present moment. They're in the in the past or in the future.Lesley Logan 19:50  Yeah, yeah. Polish Peter Kolat 19:52  So hope that makes sense. Lesley Logan 19:53  It does. It really does. It's, you know, like they say, if you live in the past, you're going to be depressed. If you live in the future, you're going to be anxious. It's really hard to be in the present. It can be hard to unravel those habits of not just people pleasing, but also trying to hold everything together when you know you don't want people to know that it's not all there. So I really appreciate you sharing that because I think it's really helpful. You know, you're obviously in a different place now, and I would love to hear your Be It Till You See It for attracting the partner you have now because it's not easy to go through a divorce and change like that. Like, do you want to dive into that? Because I read your notes and I thought, oh my god, this is so funny! I hit a rock bottom in 2013 and single and no car and no place to live and blah blah blah. And so I was like, okay, if I want to have a great partner in my life, I have to make space for them. And I had to, and I was, I had to work extra because I had no, I had to buy a new car and get a place to live in L.A.. And so I was like, how am I going to add a partner in this life if there's no life in this life? Like there's not space. So what I did was every morning I poured two cups of coffee. I poured one for me and one for the future Brad. I was like, I'm gonna be with someone who drinks coffee, and I'm making coffee in the morning. That's what I'm gonna do. And then I protected Thursday nights. I'm like, okay, Thursday nights I will say yes to nothing except for a potential date. And if on the day of I don't have a date, then I'm gonna do something for myself. But I'm protecting this for the person I want to be with, so that I can actually go on a date to meet someone. So, what about you? How did you? How did you become someone who could have someone in your life?Polish Peter Kolat 21:29  Yeah, I love that. By the way, the little things that you did. By the way, did you drink that second cup of coffee? Lesley Logan 21:34  Yes, I did. I became like I had. I'm a two-coffee girl. Polish Peter Kolat 21:37  All right, so you were like ready to go, right? Lesley Logan 21:40  Yes, yes. My day started early, so I just put one in a to-go container and one with me, and I definitely needed that. Polish Peter Kolat 21:47  All right, very cool. So listen. So the way I've approached this, is this, I wrote a vision for that future wife, you know, and I wrote a vision from the perspective of who do I want that person to be like. What are some of the maybe the musts, right? Like for instance, I have three kids, so she has to like my kids. My kids have to like her, right? I'm Christian, right? So she's hopefully going to be Christian. I want her to be Christian too, right? And so many different things, right? And there was must, shoulds, should nots, can't, right? All those different things, and then based on these qualities that I wrote on that piece of paper, big page. I mean, it was I don't know, maybe 30, 40 items on there. It was a huge, you know, and because I had this very elaborate kind of vision. And by the way, one that guy Jason Wojo, he actually encouraged me to do this, and I resisted it for a very long time. And then he finally found the wife. I'm like, well, maybe there's something to that, you know. So I finally wrote it and found this girl in January of 2016, and we started dating, and she was meeting these kind of qualities. What had me be able to go and find this girl? Because at the end of this vision that I wrote, I had to ask myself a very sovereign question, and that is this: Who do I need to become in order for that woman to actually show up in my life?Lesley Logan 23:07  Right.Polish Peter Kolat 23:07  Because if I'm a deadbeat and I don't want a deadbeat, then guess what? She's probably not going to look for a deadbeat. So who do I need to become in order for that woman to show up in my life?Lesley Logan 23:17  Yeah.Polish Peter Kolat 23:17  So that's the things that I started putting into my life to create this, you know, for instance, one of the things I used to do as a people pleaser is this best foot forward kind of a thing, right? When we go meet someone, yeah, I would show up differently, like I'm all put together or whatever might be. What I've discovered is that actually doesn't work very well for me, so I just like let's be authentic, right?Lesley Logan 23:42  Yes.Polish Peter Kolat 23:43  People say you have to wait two days to call the girl after you see her. Well, we went on a date, right? I texted her the next morning and say how was everything. You know what I mean? So you start breaking the rules of what the society says how it needs to be. Because if it's the right person, guess what? She's not gonna care either, right? And that's what basically started it all. And here's the thing, crazy thing, Lesley. But the first girl in January dating her, she didn't align because she was not emotionally available for me. Guess was not in that vision emotionally available.Lesley Logan 24:18  Oh.Polish Peter Kolat 24:18  So then we went our separate ways, found another girl in what was like March, April of that year. In June 1st, we started dating, and we started dating. And I know that she's very political, you know. And I'm like, man, she talks about politics a lot. And I'm well, if her political views or my political views are sort of similar, and I go in my vision. Guess what's not under the political views. So I added that in there. But I'm like looking probably category of a should, right? So we kept dating, and today we're married. So it's, you know what I mean, it's when you look from the perspective.Lesley Logan 24:56  I love this story because I think I went to a college where all the girls wrote the list of what they want in someone, and I was just, okay. That's great. You do need to know where you're going. We all have to have a map. Yeah. But also, so many people don't then look at what they need to attract that person. And when you're, if you're finding that you're not attracting the right person, there is, it's hello. It is you thing. It's not a them thing. A lot of people like to blame the dating pool out there, but it's like yes, and also if you keep attracting that person, there's something you're putting out into the world that is a magnet for that. We either repel people or we attract them, and I want to repel people who are not for me always, all the time. I don't want to be someone who's a magnet for things I don't want. So I love that you were okay. I love this, and this is what I want. But I need to be the person who this person would want. And then it's true; people don't realize that when a relationship doesn't work out, it's not like a failure. It's just information on, oh, I didn't realize how important this thing was to me, or actually, I didn't realize that this thing was a should, but it has to be a must because I thought it would I be okay with it, but I'm not, and that's it's just all information that we have to go out and we get to do and we get to figure out and we learn about ourselves dating these people. I love that so much. I think that's so cool.Polish Peter Kolat 26:10  That's why I said like it's most people there's a big missing element when people don't do this. You know what I mean? That's like who do I need to become? I think that people never ask the question because they're kind of worried and afraid what they might what the answer might be, and they're not willing to grow into that person.Lesley Logan 26:22  Yeah, yeah. Well, because it means letting go of stories that don't serve you.Polish Peter Kolat 26:27  Exactly. Because these stories, some shape or form, they do serve them. That's why they're holding onto them.Lesley Logan 26:33  I agree. I agree. Polish Peter, what are you most excited about right now?Polish Peter Kolat 26:38  Well, the one thing I'm most excited about is in the book that I released last year, I just want to make an impact in people's lives and be able to help them grow in their own life. So that's the thing that kind of that's my next mission in life, kind of thing.Lesley Logan 26:50  That's so cool. Okay, well, tell us about the book. Writing a book is not easy. You had to become a writer.Polish Peter Kolat 26:57  And I'm a talker, I'm a writer. You know what I mean? Lesley Logan 27:00  Yeah. How'd you do it? How'd you go from being a talker to a writer?Polish Peter Kolat 27:03  Well, I will tell you this: one day at a time, kind of a thing. I start with just one paragraph, one paragraph, one paragraph, and then end up being a book, like a 43,000-word book. I was surprised. I even surprised myself. I was like, "What? No way!"Lesley Logan 27:14  I don't even know how many words are in a regular book. How is that a lot? Polish Peter Kolat 27:18  No. So this is about 180-some pages. Lesley Logan 27:21  Okay, that's a good size book. Yeah. Okay. All right. Authentic Self Rebirth. I love it. Okay. Polish Peter Kolat 27:25  Authentic Self Rebirth. So, basically my own journey, and I'm looking to help people get back to their authenticity. That's the whole book.Lesley Logan 27:32  So okay, I want to because I love I want only authentic people in my life, and then also because of the internet, the authenticity word has been totally bastardized, ruined. But I don't think you. I think it's still important to have. So, what does authenticity mean to you? How do we know that we're being authentic?Polish Peter Kolat 27:52  When you're true to yourself, you know what I mean? Think about it this way: we all know deep down inside whether this that who we are is actually like, if you feel like there's something missing, you know, I have this question: like something's off, something's missing, something is not there. Do you know that you're not being your authentic self? And then the other aspect is that if you're living from the stories of what the world told you to be, how you need to be, and we all have this because at some point, Johnny, when he was in the second grade, he raised his hand and he was all excited to give an answer that two plus two equals three. You know what I mean? And the whole class laughed. And now Johnny decided that I'm never going to raise my hand again. I'm never going to speak up because I want to make sure 100% that I'm right. That's you being inauthentic, you know what I mean. Because now, because the world told you that you need to, you made the decision that I cannot speak up, and I think that's what happens for a lot of people that keeps them away from being fearless, to being courageous, being going out there and making things happen in life. You know what I mean? Because I think we all can impact somebody else's life. So when you start looking from that perspective, I had to. When I went through after the divorce, I noticed that a lot of the stuff that I was being was inauthentic because I wanted. I felt like there was deep down inside. I was supposed to be doing something else or being someone else, but I was just performing. There you go. That's the word. It's not about performing; it's about being. Yeah, and I think most people are performing.Lesley Logan 29:24  Yeah.Polish Peter Kolat 29:24  Especially on the social medias.Lesley Logan 29:26  Oh well, that's what it's for.Polish Peter Kolat 29:28  Yeah, exactly.Lesley Logan 29:30  I mean, my favorite compliment. My listeners have heard this before. I was, it was 2019, I want to say, and I was in Australia, and I'd finished teaching these workshops, and I wanted to go to this one store before it closed, and so the host was driving me to the store, and we're having some fun. We're in the traffic, whatever. And the host, one of the hosts, is, "You're the same person in real life that you are online." And I.Polish Peter Kolat 29:51  Right.Lesley Logan 29:51  Yeah, I don't know. I actually don't know how to be anybody else. I I don't actually know how to do that. Maybe that's the AuDHD in me. Like I don't actually. I really. Don't know. I can only really be myself, and so thank you for that. And it's it's difficult because what happens is people get rewarded for performing, just like little Johnny learned, don't raise your hand, you'll get laughed at. Other people learn, I get attention if I perform, and so it's hard for people to be authentic because on either side, you know, there's these pressures to be something else, or pulling you to be something else. So I agree. A lot of people do perform instead of being. So that's I like. I think authenticity is when you're being. I love that. Yeah.Polish Peter Kolat 30:31  Because think about. I used to hate my accent. I want to get rid of it as much as possible. I actually because I will tell you this. Doing events around the country now, right? We, you know, and so I speak in front of people. My team, because we have a team that runs it, there is in the back of the room there is a thing called Peterisms, the words and phrases that Peter says that maybe people don't understand or sound something different. I am not allowed to say the word shift because it sounds like something else. Okay? However, guess what? Do you think that stops me from being me, kind of a thing? No, no. And I think that's what I think is missing in life, that authenticity than just being, because people are always looking from the perspective. I need to looking good, right? I think that's another thing that drives a lot of this conversation.Lesley Logan 31:20  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that's so interesting. I, you know what, I don't know a single person who likes the sound of their voice, and I don't even, you know, I'm always oh, I don't have an accent, and then I go places that, you know, I do have an accent. I love your accent. I'm, what are you talking about? I don't have an accent because I'm from California and we don't have an accent. But the people in the South, you sound like you're from California. So.Polish Peter Kolat 31:41  I hear you.Lesley Logan 31:42  Oh my gosh! Well, I I think you know what's so fun about this Polish Peter is we're all going to be on a journey, and the more we learn about ourselves, the more the better we get at being ourselves. You know, so thank you for going on this with us and sharing your book and your story with us. We're going to take a brief break and find out what people can find you, follow you, be inspired by you. Lesley Logan 32:03  All right, Polish Peter, where do you hang out? Where can they buy your book? Where can they learn more about how to be their authentic self?Polish Peter Kolat 32:09  Well, they can find the book. By the way, thank you so much, Lesley, for having me. It was great being here. They can find the book at myauthenticrebirth.com. That's myauthenticrebirth. They can pick up the book and just pay for shipping and handling there, or literally anywhere the books are sold, like Amazon, Barnes & Noble, anywhere. And you want to hear more of this accent. You want to hear more of these kinds of mind-shift kind of videos. Instagram channel that I'm constantly under. It's called Authentic Self Rebirth. That's the name of the channel.Lesley Logan 32:39  I love it. Okay, you've given us some really great tips. I mean, quite honestly, like people can be it till they see it with most of what we just talked about. But what bold, executable, intrinsic, or targeted steps can people take to be it till they see it?Polish Peter Kolat 32:51  Be it till they see it. Be literally every day. Be with yourself. Like get in front of the camera, or get in front of the mirror and just be with yourself, and see when you are feeling comfortable or uncomfortable. And you know what ends up happening because most people do not like looking at themselves, right? And do not like being with themselves. So every single day, I would say, get in front of the camera or get in front of the mirror that you just be with yourself and just be quiet. I used to sometimes I do this exercise in our events, and if you want to do this, do that with your spouse or someone that's very close with you. Stand or sit in front of someone that's maybe a foot away from you, and just look at each other quietly without saying anything for five minutes. It will be the one of the longest minutes in your entire life, and you're going to see so many different emotions, so many different things in each other, and it's one of the most powerful exercises I've done with people because you don't say anything, but you are talking the entire time. That makes any sense?Lesley Logan 33:57  Yeah, yeah. Oh, I agree. People don't sit with our thoughts very much, and it's true. I definitely had no idea that most of my job would be me looking at myself in a camera. You know, you got to do it. It's a you got to do it so you can get over the things that you don't like about yourself, and also get excited about the things you do like about yourself. And you know, I think that's really a really good thing, and I also think so many of us are so busy in our head we're never with ourselves. So I love this. I love this action so great. Polish Peter, you are fabulous. You guys go get his book and share with Polish Peter and myself what were your takeaways, what landed with you. Share this with a friend who needs to hear it. Maybe you have an optimistic depressed friend who just needs to be called out in a kind way. They won't know until they get to this part that that's why you send it to them.Polish Peter Kolat 34:45  That's right.Lesley Logan 34:46  And you know, I think we all have a lot of us have people pleasing to work on. You know, and it's one of the biggest things you can do for yourself. So, thank you for your inspiration, your tips, your wonderfulness. And until next time, everyone, Be It Till You See It.Lesley Logan 34:58  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 35:41  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 35:46  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 35:50  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 35:57  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 36:01  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Lesley Logan shares her thoughts on the 25th anniversary of 9/11 in this Fuck Yeah Friday, sitting with why remembering the people behind that day matters more the further away from it we get. She shares a funny win about making a new friend at almost 44, and a listener win from a Pilates instructor who called her own class a banger.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Why it's important to keep the stories of 9/11.Lesley's experience and where she was during that day.Reunion with a former podcast guest that needed no apologies.A listener win on teaching a successful all-apparatus class. .Why it's important to recognize your own value.Episode References/Links:Homicide: New York – https://www.imdb.com/title/tt31556143@etain_pilates – https://www.instagram.com/etain.pilatesSubmit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questions If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentCheck out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentBe in the know with all the workshops at OPC https://workshops.onlinepilatesclasses.com/lp-workshop-waitlistBe It Till You See It Podcast Survey https://pod.lesleylogan.co/be-it-podcasts-surveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates Mentorship https://lesleylogan.co/elevate/FREE Ditching Busy Webinar https://ditchingbusy.com/Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gLesley Logan website https://lesleylogan.co/Be It Till You See It Podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjogqXLnfyhS5VlU4rdzlnQProfitable Pilates https://profitablepilates.com/about/Follow Us on Social Media:Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lesley.logan/The Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gFacebook https://www.facebook.com/llogan.pilatesLinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesley-logan/The OPC YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@OnlinePilatesClasses Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  It's Fuck Yeah Friday. Brad Crowell 0:02  Fuck yeah! Lesley Logan 0:05  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:48  Hi, Be It babe. How are you? Happy Friday! I just looked at the date on this episode, so I also want to just acknowledge that it is September 11th. Today is our Fuck Yeah Friday episode. It is the episode where we can have a little vent moment. We get to share some wins. We do an affirmation. We just are human beings together. And I just want to say, I'm recording this in the past, and I don't know how today feels for a lot of us. You know, I had a whole different thing to vent about, but I think what I most am sad about on this day, as we approach, it's like the 20-ish, it's the 25th anniversary of 9/11, and I know it's hard for people to watch videos and go back to that time. And I also feel like the further we get from it, the more we forget it happened, and it happened, and it affected people tremendously. And I was watching this show on, I think it's on HBO. It's Homicide New York, and it's a Dick Wolf thing. So it's real detectives doing homicide. So it's SVU, but not because it's the real stuff, and they're real New Yorkers or real cops. And however you feel about that, it's really interesting stories. And on the last season that I watched, the last episode was on 9/11, and they told their stories, and they showed these videos, and they showed these photos, and they talked about their families, and they talked about wearing a suit and running, and the health things that they've had afterwards.Lesley Logan 2:12  And I think I just want to say, I do understand how hard it can be for us to, every year, watch the video of the attack, but I do think it's important that we remember the stories of the people whose lives were lost or affected by this day. I think that that is one of the most patriotic things we can do in a world where it feels hard to be patriotic. To be honest, I don't feel that way about the fourth, but I just want to say on this day, I felt so far away from it when I was when it happened. I was in college in Southern California, so far away and so young. I didn't have a TV, you know. I didn't even get to see any of the footage because all the only TV that I knew about was in the women's dorms, and we couldn't go there. And so I really felt so far away and unaware of how it affected people, the economy, and so I was reading it in People magazine, you know, that kind of thing. So I'll just say, it took me a little longer than I would like to be completely, fully immersed in all that happened. It makes me sad today that there's people who'd even challenge that it did, or how it did, or why it did, and you know, so I miss the time when we just all got together and really loved each other. So, if you lost anyone or you were affected in any way by 9/11, my heart is with you today, and always, because we can't pretend like those things didn't change us, whether or not you were an 18-year-old at college and unsure of what the world was, or you were in New York, right? Gotta take care of each other. Lesley Logan 3:50  Now, win my win for today, and it actually has to do with I made a new friend, right? This is a funny win, but I like to share it because I'm an adult. I'm almost 44 years old, but I'm, I made a new friend, and it was really fun. We were, we, she's been on the podcast, so we talked, and I was on her podcast years and years ago, and then we just didn't connect again. And then she thought of me for a thing, and she invited me, and we just picked up where we left off. No apologies for, hey, it's been six years since we talked. None of that. It was just like, and we were vulnerable with things in our life and just honest and no competition whatsoever. We're actually in the same sort of industry when it comes to coaching, and I mean different. She's in fitness and I'm in Pilates, but it was just nice to be with a person and talk. And our husbands got along. We got along with each other's husbands. It was just so much fun, and I just, it just was really nice. And so my win is, I could have easily not gone to the thing, because Lord knows I had 17,000 things to do. I could have easily not hung out for lunch because they need to drive home and I have a thousand things to do, but I think we both needed time, and so I've made a point to make sure that I reach out to her regularly because I am notorious for Aquarius brain. You're in there, and I'm thinking of you. But I just want to say, I don't say yes to everything, but if you are feeling lonely, if you're feeling you're alone on an island, then you should say yes to an invitation. You can always leave. Okay, you always leave. Lesley Logan 5:23  Okay, your win that you sent in. This is from @etain_pilates. I apparently taught a banger of a class last night. My girls just loved it. It was all apparatus. Congratulations! That's so wonderful. Good for you. You know what? I love when a Pilates instructor acknowledges that they're fucking badass at what they do. Too many people in the Pilates industry are telling themselves a shitty story about how good they are as a teacher or how were they as a teacher, and all that is doing is allowing these VC firms to come in, open up studios with fake equipment, poorly trained teachers. Those poor teachers don't even know that they're poorly trained. They don't know. They think that they're getting a great job doing the thing that sounds so cool. Looks so cool on Instagram, and meanwhile, the most amazing teachers are over here going, "Oh my God, am I good enough?" Well, you are, you are. So thanks for sharing your win. My loves, topics, wins. Send them in to beitpod.com/questions. I want to hear and share your wins. You will want to hear them on days that are hard, like today, because you are doing some great things in this world. You're making magic happen every single day. You're being it till you see it.Lesley Logan 6:26  Oh, here's your mantra. This is so good. I am my greatest ally. I am my greatest ally. Babe, you are your greatest ally. So go Be It Till You See It.Lesley Logan 6:37  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 7:19  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 7:24  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 7:29  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 7:36  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 7:39  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Part four of the Listen to Yourself series moves from analysis paralysis into aligned action. Lesley Logan makes the case that a dysregulated body cannot make a decision that will still feel good tomorrow. She walks through the reality check she runs on every big opportunity, why most choices are experiments rather than permanent sentences, and what changed when she lowered the stakes on a health decision she wanted to rush. The goal is not a flawless choice. It is trusting yourself to handle the outcome.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:The energy exchange to negotiate when a yes costs extra capacity.Why treating a decision as too big keeps you from starting.What an exit strategy reveals about a choice you are avoiding.How to tell a spacious decision from an impressive one.Where the outsized pressure on everyday choices actually comes from.Episode References/Links:Lesley on Pilates Perspectives Podcast - https://beitpod.com/pilatesperspectivesEp. 682 - Listen to Yourself Series 1 - https://beitpod.com/ep682Ep. 683 - Listen to Yourself Series 2 - https://beitpod.com/683Submit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questions If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentCheck out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentBe in the know with all the workshops at OPC https://workshops.onlinepilatesclasses.com/lp-workshop-waitlistBe It Till You See It Podcast Survey https://pod.lesleylogan.co/be-it-podcasts-surveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates Mentorship https://lesleylogan.co/elevate/FREE Ditching Busy Webinar https://ditchingbusy.com/Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gLesley Logan website https://lesleylogan.co/Be It Till You See It Podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjogqXLnfyhS5VlU4rdzlnQProfitable Pilates https://profitablepilates.com/about/Follow Us on Social Media:Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lesley.logan/The Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gFacebook https://www.facebook.com/llogan.pilatesLinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesley-logan/The OPC YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@OnlinePilatesClasses Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  You don't want to make a regulated decision and then get dysregulated doing the decision. We don't want to do that. Have a reality check. How does this fit in with my current systems that I need? And if I say yes to this and it imbalances something, that doesn't mean it's a no. It just means I need support around that imbalance. Lesley Logan 0:15  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:58  Hey, Be It babe! Welcome back to our part four of the listening series, listening to yourself series. Today we're going to move from analysis paralysis into aligned action. We live in a world full of so many pressures and pressures that we put on ourselves, pressures that we think people are putting on us, pressures of just what the fuck is going on out there, and we have to make choices. And there's pressure to make everything that we do look impressive or exciting, so people on social even get excited about it. And it's actually just destroying all of our peace. I was on the Balanced Body podcast, Pilates Perspectives, and I said I'm a reluctant social media person because the reality is, is I really don't like when I have to post things for the likes of it all and the shares of it all. I actually just want to post what I want to post about, and that's kind of how I've moved on with my life. But I feel that pressure to make sure that I look impressive on paper because people are trying to sell tickets to things that I'm going to. So I hear you, I feel you, and it is destroying our peace.Lesley Logan 1:55  And so we're gonna talk about throwing out the pressure of making a flawless choice because sometimes we think we have to have it all figured out before we can tell people about it, or if we can move forward, and that's not helpful. Instead, focusing on making sustainable decision based on listening to you, so we're gonna help choose that next step so that you can enjoy the next 10-plus years of your life, but without having to solve the next 10-plus years of your life, because that's really difficult to do. Just look up at the last 10 years of all of our lives. Do any of us expect this to happen? No. I cannot believe I'm sitting here recording this episode. At the time I'm recording, I've lived here in Vegas for six years and one month, and I can tell you right now that in 2019, I was not planning on living here until 2023. So shows you what we know about being able to solve the next 10 years.Lesley Logan 2:44  Okay, so first thing we need to make sure we're doing when we are making decisions and going inward is that we must first be regulated. So we've talked about this in past solo series, but if you are in survival mode, if you're in burnout or panic, if you are really struggling right now, I actually think that the most important thing you can do in making decisions to listening to yourself is actually find a way to regulate. What do you need to do? Is it going to see a therapist and then you can make decisions? Is it journaling? Is it listening to some music? Is it taking a hot bath? What helps you get out of the survival mode, feeling, energy, situation, so that you can then make a good decision? Because I never, I'm, I don't say never. I have made exactly the right decisions from a bad place, but the way I handled it wasn't how I would have liked if I had just waited an hour a day to then do the response. I might have still made the same response, but how I would have handled it would have been different, and it would have created less aftermath. Right? Lesley Logan 3:53  Brad and I were talking about something yesterday, and I was just like, "You, you can send this email." And he was at the end of like, I'm just gonna wait till tomorrow because I want to get my thoughts out. And so I think it's just how beautiful when you understand that you're dysregulated. You cannot make a great decision that's going to feel good tomorrow. So get regulated and then make a decision. Do you need to write the thing down? I need to make a decision on this. Okay, great. Then leave that posted out. Go regulate yourself, and then make a decision. You'll just feel better. It'll be so much easier to hear you because otherwise you're hearing those other voices in your head, right? The ones that are not really you. There are different versions of you. There are different people in your life that somehow moved in. Lesley Logan 4:34  This is an interesting thought. It came up in my research. I think it has some validity, but I also want to do everything in moderation. So, does this fit your actual life reality check? So, there are big offer opportunities that are going to come in your life, and you do need to consider your current situation, health, energy, and the season that you're in. Because the opportunity might be really great on paper, but a terrible timing right now if you're going to lose sleep or sanity, and so I don't want this to be a rule you live by. Because we adopted Darla, and our actual life reality check, we have a tour in two months, and ideally we'd be home for three months with her before we went on tour because we really want her to be in the routines. We want her to be trained. She's still jumping on people, blah blah blah. So obviously, adopting Darla is a great idea because I was listening to myself and I was, I really love this dog. She's fucking cool, and I can get other dogs with this dog. So I would just say, when doing the actual reality check and listening to yourself, I would make sure that if moving forward you feel expansive, as we talked about in the last episode and the first series of the listening series, if you feel expansive and it doesn't fit the actual life, then I probably would still move forward, but figure out how you can move, how you can make it work. So, for example, with the Darla situation, I said we can adopt her if you can find a trainer who can see us eight times before we leave, because we have eight weeks and I want eight connections with a trainer with her. So we did that, and we found a trainer who'll work on our crazy-ass schedule because it felt expansive to have her. It felt fun to have her. Lesley Logan 6:16  So another situation I can share with you: there's an organization that reached out to me, and they want me to teach for them next year. And I have been very adamant that I'm not saying yes to anything before May of next year because I have so much going on, and I want to be home to work on it. And I don't want to be distracted and on planes. And so this opportunity is big, and it is after the timeline I've set. So I'm not having to hem and haw and go against something that I said I wouldn't do, but I also looked at where I am in this season of my year. I've been gone for three weeks. Can I still balance everything that I've already committed to in that month on top of being gone for three weeks? The answer is actually kind of yes, I can. And also, if I'm gonna work a little extra hard to make sure I can balance it, then I have to also ask for X per day, because I'm gonna need the energy exchange to be there, right? Because I can't work extra hard to make sure I get my other commitments done in time to be present there, and then get paid half what I need, because while it is fun and it'll be great on paper and it'll be really impressive on social, it does have to refill my cup and money as energy, right? Lesley Logan 7:30  So when you're looking at these big opportunities, you do need to think: Am I losing sleep for this? I'm doing something in the end of this year. I said yes to an event, and it's going to cause me a little extra travel, and I just made sure that I have hotels covered so I can get there a day early. I can stay a day late so I can get my sleep and get caught up on my work before I'm on a plane for 25 hours. Right? Lesley Logan 7:54  So there's just some things you have to think about a second longer because dysregulation doesn't mean that you're always triggered and anxious. It could be, oh my God, this is the coolest day. I'm so excited that you're not even thinking about the ramifications of the yes. So listening, right, and then asking for help so that you can take on the amazing opportunity without sacrificing the things that keep you sane. You don't want to make a regulated decision and then get dysregulated doing the decision. We don't want to do that. Have a reality check. How does this fit in with my current systems that I need? And if I say yes to this, and it imbalances something, that doesn't mean it's a no. It just means I need support around that imbalance. What do I need to hire, do, get? Right?  Lesley Logan 8:30  Third, I think sometimes we have to, in listening to ourselves and making decisions, we do need to lower the stakes a little bit. We tend to think of choices as an experiment or permanent sentences. This is how it's going to be forever. If we can actually think of our choices like this is an experiment, I can try this out. I can always go, "Oh my God! I know I said yes to this, but this is not working out." And for the most part, I mean, there's contracts involved and things like that. But I am maybe annoyingly so quite communicative. I think I could say yes to this. Here's why I have to have everything into you by, so I can stay on top of the other commitments I already have. Here's when I would like to do it by, if that works for you. I had somebody ask me for X, Y, and Z. It wasn't really a decision I could make. I had to do it, and I just said yes. You will have it by Monday of next week. If you need it sooner, let me know. But I wasn't expecting to have to do this this week. So, if you don't mind, I'd like to get to the end of day on Monday, right? And that way, I am telling them I'm a very busy person. I heard you. I see you. I will get you what you need, but this is when you can expect to get it by. That way, they're not bugging me because I don't. I'm someone who's not anyone bugging. I don't want any. I don't let anyone down. So, know that most choices are experiments, and you can change things, especially if you communicate that in the first place. Oh yes, I would love to do this. However, I can only do it on Tuesdays and Thursdays, or I would love to do Y, but I can only do it on the weekends. I have a girlfriend. I'd love to see you, and I can see you on this weekend any day after 2 o'clock. So that way, it's not a perfect sentence because I would hate for it to go. Oh yeah, I'd love to see you. 10 a.m. on Saturday. I'm like, oh, I can't do that. And then I feel like an asshole. No, I literally put it out there in the first place. So the more you listen to yourself and feel, I feel expansive. But this is what has to happen. Great, just share that. It's often not a death sentence, right?Lesley Logan 10:19  This opportunity Brad was thinking would go one way, and we got information that it's like it's going a different way. And he was so frustrated, and I feel all of your frustrations. And I'm not seeing how this is a bad thing, because we can go yes with all this, and we can go back to this other place and go here's how we can work with you, and it's actually on them. And while it would suck if they don't want to work with us in this capacity, then it wasn't going to be beneficial for us, anyways, right? So lower the stakes of the decision you have to make. Get really clear on it because I think sometimes we think we treat everything like the way parents are treating college. Oh my God, if you don't get into this good school over here, you're going to be a deadbeat. And then that turned in from college to the particular high school that you have to get into, and then that went to the elementary school you have to get your kid into. And if you go to L.A., you are trying to sign a baby up you haven't even had in your body yet, because they got to get into that preschool. Otherwise, they won't get into that elementary school, and they won't get into that, and they won't get into this. Most decisions are not that big of a deal. There are ones that are. There are some decisions that are massive deals, right? There's health decisions that you really have to think about, and that really are going to affect your life. You know, I got information about my breast cancer risk, and when I first got it, it felt like I have to just make this decision, and then that actually made me feel anxious, trapped a bit, frustrated, pissed off. It did not make me feel expansive. It made me feel like it was going to control my life. Then I actually went back to our last episode, got an opinion of someone who went through a very similar thing, just a different experience. She actually did have cancer, and her honesty with me was so beautiful. And then I got information from someone else who also went through something very similar, but even more serious, and that helped me understand. Oh, I'm in a really good situation. I lower the stake. I'm actually getting actually have someone checking on this twice a year. So for right now, the decision that I need to make isn't making me feel expansive. It's making me feel anxious. So let's lower the stakes a little bit. The doctor isn't as concerned as I am treating this right now, and I can take some time to really explore this and treat it like an experiment. And if I was to go with this route, you know, does that feel expansive? What are the pros and cons of that? What does that make me feel like? Okay, that, how does this option make me feel? And I can take the time. And that's even with an important decision. But I do have the time right now. I have the time. Go get your mammograms, ladies. Go see if you can get checked for your risk levels because it's really, really important to me. Lesley Logan 13:01  Okay, I think we tend to put some decisions that we have to make in that same high-stakes scenario when they're not there. And so, what if you played around? What if you set the stage? What if you set the tone? What if you set the boundaries? If you was going to go this way, what would you need? That's so helpful, and that's listening to yourself because what I don't want is I don't want you to make a choice that's bold and amazing, and then you second guess yourself, right? I don't want that. I know what that feels like, yeah. And sometimes we do it anyways because you know we're like, oh my God, I got into this. I have the person who can still do it, but that's very different than was that the right decision. I should have done this thing, right? Because of course you're going to have moments where you're doubting yourself, and that's when you get back into whose opinions of you matter. Why are you doing the thing? Listening to your body is that voice that you're hearing even yours? Whenever I'm like, oh my God, how am I going to do this? It's not me. It's the scared people in my my life who were afraid to ruffle feathers. If I listen to me, actually, I don't really worry about ruffling feathers that much. Thank God for being Aquarius. Lesley Logan 14:12  All right. So your homework assignment, your Be It Action Items. I want you to take some time to take a decision you have to make, and is this decision leading you toward something that looks cool to outsiders, or is that decision actually spacious and sustainable for you? So, are you making a decision based on what you think other people want you to do, or what other people will think? Are you making it based on what is sustainable and spacious for you? Lesley Logan 14:40  The next one is really interesting. I haven't done this one in a while, but if you were to take the next step and you actually hated it, what is the exit strategy? So I do like this one. I just haven't done it in a while, and it is really a good one. So what's the exit strategy? And that kind of is the same thing when you start any business. By the way, you're like, how do I want to exit it? Because how you want to exit actually talks about how you want to set things up, and it can change. But obviously, it's better if you know. So, what's your exit strategy if you actually do hate it? What would you do, right? Because if it is a concrete wall that you created in making this decision, it doesn't mean you shouldn't do it. It just means you need to listen a little bit more because it might not be. And then, if you have a way to reverse a decision, then you can do that. Lesley Logan 15:20  Lastly, I want you to take a moment and journal about if you're delaying taking action because you're kind of too obsessed with the next decade. Because I do think about, oh my God, in 10 years I'm going to be 53 years old, and then I'm oh my God, how am I going to get the things that I'm working on now to be in the place that I want them to be, so that at 53 years old I could be working on my retirement exit, right? So let me just tell you, you may as well hit dysregulate as a button on my body. It will freak me out. It'll make me actually put too much pressure on everything. Nothing good will come out of it.Lesley Logan 15:55  So I I want you to ask yourself if you're delaying making a decision because you're making the decision too big and too important. What if you just took one tiny, tiny step of the decision? What if you dipped your toe in the water? Right? Can you take one step and get more data so that then you can listen even more to yourself? Those are your homework and journaling assignments for when you're making decisions and how to listen to yourself. I hope this was helpful. I also just want to say we often worry about the success of decisions we're making, but we define what success means to us, right? If you define what success means to you, if you really define and it really is your definition, you might even find that you're already successful. Then it's not about making a flawless choice. It's about trusting yourself enough to know that you can handle whatever outcome happens. You can whatever the decision is. One of my favorite coaches said, "Your business is not as fragile as you think it is." And I like to think about that on most decisions we have to make. For the most part, they're not gonna create fragility in our life. There are some things that are really big deals, and I hope that we only have to make those decisions. You know, like someone is on life support. That's a big fucking decision, right? Hopefully, they already wrote it down.Lesley Logan 17:18  But our brain doesn't know how to prioritize what we're going to wear today versus how do I want to invest my money versus like should I call that job back versus you know it doesn't it creates everything as the same pressure so we have to be the ones that actually take that pressure off right and know that we can handle anything. You've succeeded all your worst days you're still here. Thank you so much. I have one more action step for you. I would love for you to identify one decision you've overthinking. It's one decision you've been overthinking. Can you check in with your body, ditch the need to be perfect, and just choose a next align step. My loves, we have to be self trusting before we will ever see the self-trust in our lives, we have to Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 18:08  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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For some of us advice feels like support. For others it's one more voice to manage. Wherever you land, Lesley Logan borrows a Brené Brown question to sort through the crowd of opinions we collect from mentors, friends, and family, and figure out whose opinion should matter in the first place. Maybe it's time to notice that the smartest people in your life are often smart in a lane that has nothing to do with yours.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:The difference between receiving advice and absorbing adviceWhy other people's advice is really about their fears and limitationsNot every correction is meant for every body on every dayHow to notice when advice creates urgency, shame, or people-pleasingFeedback is information, not instructionEpisode References/Links:Brené Brown – https://brenebrown.comeLevate Mentorship Program – lesleylogan.co/elevateEp 682, Listen to Yourself Part 1 - https://beitpod.com/ep682Ep 683, Listen to Yourself Part 2 - https://beitpod.com/683Submit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questions If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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We almost have too many options.Lesley Logan 0:16  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:58  Hello, Be It babe. Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It podcast. It's a solo week, so we're talking about listening to ourselves again. You guys love that series so much. We're taking it to the next step, which really is this one's near and dear to me because I think there's actually this happens a lot in the Pilates industry a lot. So I might use my Pilates experience to talk through this idea. So you don't have to know Pilates to, you can insert anything, massage, engineering, whatever it is for that. Hopefully, I think. So, when it comes to knowing what to do next, I don't actually think the problem is that you don't know what to do. I think the problem often in being it till we see it and in taking action towards our goals is that we actually have collected so many opinions about the next step, we forgot our own opinion, and we have no idea what to do. We almost have too many options, right? It's like when I go to the Cheesecake Factory. I don't because I know how big the menu is, and I don't even know where to start. What let me know. Lesley Logan 1:53  So in this third part of our listening series, we're going to talk about the discernment and advice overload, and because I don't want you to not have outside feedback, but I also don't want outside feedback hijacking your internal signal, right? I want us to be able to break down how you receive input without absorbing all of it, so that you can, one, stop asking for permission from people who aren't even in the same place as you or going to the same place as you, but also discern, like when should you absorb it? When should you let it? I get so much advice unsolicited all the fucking time. I would be in an insane asylum if I absorbed most of it. And I think part of having a little bit of the, not a little bit, part of being ADHD is that I do forget a lot of it, so that's good. Part of being ADHD is that I have a sensitivity to rejection, so sometimes I don't want people's thoughts and opinions to, if I don't take it, I don't want them to feel bad. But I've had to learn through a lot of almost burnout. How do I go, "Oh wow, thank you so much for that. I can see how that worked for you," right? How do I have a nice way? And maybe you have to come up with those nice ways so that you can receive information without absorbing the things that you don't need. So first, let's talk about how do we receive without absorbing advice. Lesley Logan 3:05  So I've talked about this concept a few times on this podcast, but just in case you're new, hi, and just in case you need to hear it again, we need to have a boundary between listening to someone else's perspective and letting it trigger our anxiety or creating an urgency that's outside of the pace we want to go, or creating shame in our own nervous system. So we do have to have a good awareness of ourselves and how we operate and how our systems function. And this is where getting to know yourself is really important. And how do you do that?Lesley Logan 3:34  Sometimes it is figuring out your operating system. Right? I have an autism and ADHD systems that I've discovered, and now everything makes sense, including the Aquarian in me. Knowing that it actually explains why some things activate me more, some things make me feel more anxious than other things should. So, knowing yourself is really, really important. But when it comes to receiving advice and information, we do need to have some sort of filtration. So, for me, this piece of advice that I heard on a podcast 15 years ago was from Brené Brown, right? Our wonderful Brené Brown, which is having awareness around whose opinions of you or what you're doing matter, and then have them on a list, have them on a piece of paper, and then making sure that they know that.Lesley Logan 4:17  So there are people in your family, in my family, in our lives, dear friends, who think that they're being helpful with the information that they're giving, but it is coming from a place of their own situation, right? And so we do need to be aware. Like, you know, you would, if you are trying to go to dental school, you are not asking me, you are not coming to this podcast for dental school advice. I actually don't know much about that. I know what I want a good dentist to do and be, but I don't know where, what the best schools are. I don't even know how the best you research that. I don't know how long that would take. You would ask your favorite dentist or the dentist that inspired you, right? You would ask them, and so having clarity around the area that you're going into, the steps you want to take, and making sure that you maybe even take a moment to go, "If I'm going to share this information with people that I'm doing this, whose advice am I actually going to listen to, and whose advice am I going to let go one ear and out the other?" Right? How am I going to just go, "Oh, okay, great." And I don't want you to think that I'm flippant or that I don't appreciate people's time in telling me what they think, but honestly, advice I got today was that I need more dogs. I would love more dogs, but I don't need more dogs. And if I were to absorb that information, I would actually start to think about how to get more dogs. And really, my goal right now is creating a teacher training program that actually works really well, right? So the way that I am actually filtering even the podcast that I listen to is: Does this have information that can support the place I'm going, or is it creating fear? If it's creating fear, I have to stop listening because fear is not going to help me feel confident in what I'm doing, but if it is, "Oh yeah, that is actually good information to keep in mind," then I can write it down. I can take a moment to absorb it, right?Lesley Logan 6:08  So really, take notice in your day about when are you just receiving information or when are you letting it stick with you. You know, I was listening to a podcast the other day and I heard some bad news. Has nothing to do with my life, technically, but it was playing on repeat in my brain. Hold on, this is confusing my next steps on this thing because I'm so distracted by this thing that has nothing to do with me right now. You know, so having awareness is going to be really, really key. Which brings us to, I've been kind of dancing around this, but I'm going to dive in deeper. The danger of misaligned mentors. So most people's advice for us is a reflection of their fears, their limitations, their values, not yours. Now you guys might align in values, right? There might be some that are very similar. They may even have the best intentions, but oftentimes there's fears in there, right? As they ask questions, they're really trying to get their own, and often it's subconscious, their own fears quelled, but it can actually stir up yours. So a story is Brad and I've talked about my mom's dad, my grandfather.Lesley Logan 7:13  We stopped telling him where we were traveling because he was, "Oh, that's so dangerous. That's this, that's that." And it's first of all, I live in a country that is actually on 134th or 37th in danger. So come on, it's not up there with safety. It's not in the, it's down at 137 because it's unsafe. So he lived a life of fear of people, fear of traveling, and so if I had listened to him, I would never have. And I have people in my life who did listen to him, and they saw nothing, you know. And I feel really bad because honestly, I think travel is one of the best things you could do to realize that we're more the same than we are different. Lesley Logan 7:49  So when we are sharing or soliciting opinions from people, we do need to make sure that those mentors are in alignment with us, right? We do need to really explore that. For example, a lot of people who teach differently than me ask me questions about how to teach X, how to teach Y, and often are disappointed in my answer or confused because it is different than how they were taught. Well, I'm not trying to confuse them or disappoint them. I only know how I was taught, and I only know why I still believe what I teach based on my own research, my own curiosities, my own studying. Right, so I actually cannot speak to how they were taught that exercise, and so unintentionally, they have asked a misaligned mentor, even if they like me. Misaligned mentors do not mean they're bad people, right? I don't think I'm a bad person, but if I'm not in alignment with how you want to teach, I can be a confusing person to go to. Now please keep coming to my tutorials. Please keep asking me questions. But also, I'm going to come from my own lens, and that's human nature. I cannot come from your lens. I didn't live your life, right? That goes for any mentor. Lesley Logan 8:57  I had some really, there were some really great coaches that I had invested in, and people told me that they would be really, really great for my business. And they said how much they were great for their business. And you want to know what? They're probably great coaches, and they were completely misaligned for what I was doing. They had no experience in the area I was in. Now I would say that's on them because they sold me and they told me that they could help me. I did not know that they did not have experience in what I do. I was trusting the opinions of other people. So really making sure that as you're looking for mentors, as you're looking for people to be in your ear, in your corner, that you are aware of your values first of all, that you can figure out what their values are, and when you ask for advice, if you are bothered or disappointed or frustrated by some of the advice you get, ask follow-up questions. "Oh, why would you say that? Why do you think that? Oh, where is that coming from?" They might not even know, but if you ask them, it might help clarify. So, for example, when people go, "Oh, I just had someone who listens to the podcast who was talking about the Wunda Chair springs on mine are really hard to change, and I don't have that experience because my life experience with the chair is easy for me to switch the springs. But based on their life experience, it's not. So my follow-up question was, "Oh, tell me more about what you're used to. Tell me how you're doing it," right? So that when I give advice, it can be in alignment with the goal that they're having. So it really is a two-way street. Most, hopefully, hopefully you're choosing mentors of people who actually want to be a mentor, and they've taken time to understand what that looks like. Sometimes we pick mentors who have no idea that they're your mentor, and that goes back to what I said about Brené Brown. She says, "Who are the people whose opinions matter, and do they know? Do they know that?" Because that can also weigh differently, you know.Lesley Logan 10:42  How, if I know somebody is, for example, people who are in my eLevate program, I weigh how I give them answers to their questions differently than someone who's just randomly asking me on YouTube. Why? One, I know them. I know what they're going to do with the information. I know who they're teaching. I know what equipment they're on. Someone on YouTube, I actually don't know what equipment they're on. I don't know what they're doing with the information. I don't know where often the information is coming from. So I have to give, I have to give an answer that's in alignment with what I believe and what I think, but it can't be as detailed and nuanced because I don't know the context that is being asked in. Right? Who gets to be information that you absorb? Who gets to be information that you look from and you look to? So something that's really popular in Pilates today is cue, cue, cue. Correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct. And the reality is, is that the one that's unhelpful for people to always be correcting them. It's not how people learn. It's not how motor learning works. In fact, if we only focus on people aren't doing well, we are not ever taking time for them to do something well, right? And so, if you're in that class where everyone is, where the teacher is cueing and cueing and correcting and correcting, and you hear something that was meant for somebody else, but you apply it to your body, you can get hurt, right?Lesley Logan 12:04  My husband was in a yoga class. We'll just use yoga for this example because this is really interesting. My husband has a lot of hypermobility in his joints, and the teacher was giving a correction to several people in the class, and Brad went to go do it, which meant he overcorrected in the exercise, and the teacher goes, "Not for you. Not every cue is for you." Part of doing yoga is understanding when a cue is for you, right? And so the teacher actually had to, for a long time, give the class a correction and then go, "Not you, Brad," right? Because if you have not created the muscle that allows you to know when to integrate and when to just let it go, it's very easy to overwhelm yourself. And this is what I see in Pilates teachers, they're studying from so many different people. As, by the way, you should have, you should in your life experience different mentors. So I'm not trying to gatekeep there, but if you're trying to study from me and three other classical teachers, you're going to get four different voices in your head, right? And we're probably all even saying somewhat of the same thing, but we come at it from a different approach based on who taught us, based on our own body's experience, based on our own experiences teaching it to people. And if you are trying to take all four of those opinions and go, "Well, how do I apply it to my exercise here?" You are going to be confused, and you're going to feel stuck. And then you got to go back to our stuck series.Lesley Logan 13:29  So, I have homework for you, right? I have some Be It Action Items, if you will. I want you to take some time to think about who is in your vote audit, right? List the names of people whose opinions you are going to consider, and maybe you might even think about in what scenarios. I'm absolutely going to listen to my mother-in-law's advice on cooking. Of course, I am not going to listen to her advice on anything that has to do with my entrepreneurial business, not because she's not smart. She's fucking brilliant. In case you're listening, hi, she's brilliant, right? But she doesn't know my experience, what it, what my life is like being on the internet, being something that people talk about, being someone who has an impact that they want to make, and in doing that, will disappoint some people, right? So it's important you have to write down whose opinions of you matter, and maybe in what categories. My mother's an incredible school teacher. Some of her tips for teaching are really applicable to what I do, and also she's a first-grade school teacher, she's not a Pilates teacher.Lesley Logan 14:38  So a lot of it isn't because I don't teach in those kinds of formats. I don't have that many students at the same time. They have learned how to read. There's, you know, there's different things. So there are some epic people in your life who have great ideas in narrow areas. The next, if you don't want to do that here, or you can in addition to, I want you to think. Think about the last piece of business or lifestyle advice you received. Did it make your body feel expansive and open, or did it create panic or pressure or a sudden urge to people please? So your body, right? This is the listen to yourself series. Your body is telling you when something feels good, and if people's advice makes you feel like you need to contract, take up less space, that is information for you. Doesn't make the information wrong. I'm not saying that I can't say what's right or wrong. I don't know what the information is, but I want you to notice what it does, because if maybe the information is accurate. Maybe you wanted to go for a hike tomorrow in this amazing space, and somebody says that is going to be terrible. There's a lightning situation that's going to happen and flash flooding. That might make you create panic or pressure or disappointment. That doesn't mean you don't listen to the advice, but it may be okay. Well, maybe I have to focus on why I want to do this in the first place, and what can I do instead? Right? How can we do that? So just notice because your body is telling you things about how you feel about information and what you want in this life. Lesley Logan 16:12  What to do next. Lastly, your last piece of homework or journaling. Who is currently giving you advice or influencing your choices? And so if we did an audit, who do you want? But this is different. Who is it currently? Do you actually want that in your daily life? I did a podcast little adjustment because I just kind of noticed that because I love my morning routine, and I was noticing that between my podcasts and just checking in with the Instagram in the morning, that I often started the mornings feeling a little bit, oh, right, and so I was just, what podcasts am I avoiding? What podcasts are kind of making me feel bored or not making me feel uplifted? So I got rid of some. They're great podcasts, by the way. I would definitely recommend them. There's nothing wrong. It's just that in this place where I am right now, they're not making me feel expansive, and so I'm in search of podcasts that I can learn more from and be inspired by, especially in this fucked-up world we're in. Maybe there isn't a person. Maybe you're just scrolling so much. I have a lot of people that I coach who are making way too many decisions based on what the founders of Meta are fucking doing. Oh my God, why are we letting these billionaires control the actions that we take to make the impact we want? I fucking don't like them either. I'd love to get the fuck off these platforms. However, I have to be where my people are, right? I have to. So I'm gonna do that and hope that I get rich enough to tell them to fuck off. So hopefully that gave you some inspiration. Sometimes we're giving people too much control over our lives. Yeah, and we're losing the goal. So you gotta listen to yourself. So you cannot step into your own authority if you are constantly looking around to other room to see if everyone approves of your path. That is going to be a nightmare. I actually just texted somebody whose opinion matters in the industry that I am in. It doesn't really matter either way for me. However, if what she had said had been negative, I probably been like, fucker. What does she know? But also, what she said back to me was so beautiful, and I was, oh, I didn't need her approval, but I liked having it, right? But I didn't ask for her approval before I started the thing. I started the thing before it, so just be mindful.Lesley Logan 18:40  It's okay to want approval in your life, but if you are waiting for that approval before you step out on a path, if the lack of some people's approval has you turning around, I highly recommend you take some time to just really get clear on who you are, what you do, what your values are, because you know I do this in Profitable Pilates, we have people who whose clients complain about a rate increase or a rule, and they're like, "I should change it because this person doesn't like it." It's like this is your business. They cannot like it. They don't have to take Pilates from you, but you are the one who has to live with this business. You're the one who has to pay the bills at the end of the day. You're the one who has to go to bed at night. This is your impact you want to make, so it would be nice if your clients liked the changes, but we cannot use how they feel to determine what we know we have to do for the betterment of our goals and the people that we want to make an impact on. Right? If a client constantly late cancels and never pays the fee because they don't like it, they are keeping someone else who could be very much more consistent and very much needs that time from getting to work with you. So not only is that person screwing you over, it's screwing someone else over. So if you can't make changes based on you, you certainly need to think about the people that it's affecting when you don't listen to yourself.Lesley Logan 20:03  All right, my loves, we're gonna be back later this week with our fourth episode in the listening series because once we have cleared out the advice overload, we can reclaim your voice, and so we're actually gonna do that so you can make a good choice in your life. So make sure you turn into the next episode and do the homework between now and then. I would love to hear what you think of these solo episodes. Share this with a friend who needs to hear it. And until next time, Be It Till You See It.Lesley Logan 20:24  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 21:07  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 21:12  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 21:16  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 21:24  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 21:27  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. 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Lesley Logan celebrates the week her upLift teacher training program crossed into its next phase, with educators applying to teach alongside her for the first time. She shares an honest rant about six years of Las Vegas construction cones, a breath work win from the eLevate group, and a two listener who shared their win. It's a reminder that a goal that keeps on moving is not a goal you are failing at.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Why every vent in Lesley's community must arrive paired with a win.Living around constant construction cones in Las Vegas for six years.What upLift looks like now that trained educators are stepping in.Community wins from breath work to 600th milestone celebration.This week's affirmation about being understood for your own perspective.Episode References/Links:upLift - xxll.co/uwseLevate - https://lesleylogan.co/elevate@lorilwatson - https://www.instagram.com/lorilwatson@matandspring - https://www.instagram.com/matandspringSubmit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questions If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:48  Be It babe. Hi, welcome to our Friday episode. How are you? Oh, it's a Fuck Yeah Friday, and it really is a fuck yeah. As Brad would say, my goodness, this year, I knew when I went on my vacation in January, this year was going to be one of those years where I just put the pedal to the metal, and I'm grateful for it. So, so grateful for it. And this last week, I just did something I've been looking. It's been on the books, right? But I'll share that one in a second. Because first, hello, welcome to Be It Pod. On Fridays, we celebrate a win of yours, a win of mine, and something that we do with our members is if we want to vent about something, then they have to share a win. So, I'm venting with you because this is where I get to vent. It's my podcast.Lesley Logan 1:25  So, if you don't know how the local Las Vegans live, we live around construction grounds. Okay, so my little vent moment is, I have lived in Las Vegas now six years and three months, and in six years and three months, there was construction on the main road to my house. You'd have to make a left on. It was on so long that when they moved the construction, then Brad missed our turn. That's how long the construction was there. We moved here with construction, and it was on so long we didn't know what our actual turn was. And they, my friends, they moved the construction to the road perpendicular, right, the cross street, and so that construction was so bad that people oftentimes were in the wrong lane multiple times, and now that construction has just moved a little bit further south and then a little bit further east. And guess what? I either have to sit in traffic to go further south and go to all my appointments, and not have traffic when I make a left, or I make a right, and I have no traffic until I have traffic right where I have to park. And so I just had to say, I'm really tired of the construction cones because they literally do it on all of the streets all at the same time, all the time. I don't even know you do that. I don't even know you do that. I want, in fact, want to invest in stocks and orange counts. That's what I want to do. Lesley Logan 2:43  All right. So now that I've vented, do you understand what I mean, though? I live in L.A. All right, I lived in L.A., and they would be working on the street for a year, right? Because they're widening the roads or widening the 405 or whatever they're doing. You know what they would never do? Do it the same fucking time. They would never let Wilshire have construction and then also Santa Monica, or Olympic, or even any other street within three miles north or south, because you can't screw with people's lives like that. And if Lesley takes public transportation, I would love public transportation to be more accessible for everybody, not just for me, but for the actual people who need to go and drive somewhere every day. I do not have to do that, so this is just a really stupid vent.Lesley Logan 3:20  But anyways, my win, my win. So as I started to get into it, because I was so excited about this win. So as you know, I've been working on upLift, a teacher training program for new teachers or partially trained teachers, and this last week, the applications been rolling in for the educators, and I am just so pleased to punch for the people who are braving this new world with me. I am so honored and grateful, and I'm proud of them for being in a place where they've elevated to the point where they're like, "Yeah, I can teach this shit." So my win is that the stage has been set, and we are on the next stage of this goal that I've been working on. Because, you know, not every goal is done. You've little parts like the construction; it just moves up the road. But this is the good guy. So I'm at the next phase of this program, and I'm now no longer doing it by myself. I will have educators to do this with me, and I'm just freaking excited. So yeah, so that's what's going on. If you are wanting to know more information about my upLlift Teacher Training Program, go to xxll.co/uws. We've got to get a main link for all this stuff. Anyways, that'll be a win when I get that. Lesley Logan 4:20  In the meantime, a win of yours, and then a little mantra. So this is from @lorilwatson. Had breath work with you. Oh, Lori Watson, fucking love you. I love you, and she has Winsday, Wednesday, Winsdays, or like Fuck Yeah Wednesdays and Fuck Yeah Sundays in the eLevate group. So Lori, thank you for doing breath work with me and @matandspring, "Passed my 600 today!!!" Fuck yeah, get it, girl. Oh my goodness, I am just, you guys are amazing. So you send your wins in to beitpod.com/questions. You can also send in topics you're wanting to do solo episodes on. Today, as I record this, I'm also going to record some solo episodes for a new theme that you guys requested. So beitpod.com/questions. This is where you send that, and as you know, when you support OPC, you are supporting this podcast. So you can support OPC by buying our flashcards or becoming a member, joining our amazing community. So go to onlinepilatesclasses.com. Thank you all so much. Lesley Logan 5:13  Here is your affirmation for the day: I am understood, and my perspective is important. I am understood, and my perspective is important. My love, you are understood, and your perspective is so important. Now go have an amazing day, and Be It Till You See It.Lesley Logan 5:33  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. 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Perimenopause is basically reverse puberty, and it can run 10 to 15 years before you are on the other side of it. Yep! Lesley and Brad recap the conversation with Dr. Amy Loden, covering what your bloodwork leaves out and why giving birth works like a stress test that reveals the health issues that were already there before you got pregnant. They also spotlight AFSP for Suicide Prevention Awareness Month.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Why women need to pay attention to their bodies during perimenopause.What "you're within range" bloodwork actually leaves out about your health.How pregnancy acts as a stress test that unmasks chronic health conditions.Why frequent hot flashes may signal a higher risk for heart disease.Updated hormone research helps you make decisions without outdated fears.Episode References/Links:upLift Teacher Training Waitlist - https://xxll.co/uwseLevate Live Q&A - lesleylogan.co/elevateOPC Summer Tour (Powered by Balanced Body) - https://opc.me/tourOPC Flashcards - opc.me/flashcardsOPC Posters - https://opc.me/postersCambodia Retreat Waitlist - crowsnestretreats.comPilates on Tour - https://xxll.co/potAmerican Foundation for Suicide Prevention – afsp.orgCharity Navigator – charitynavigator.orgCharityWatch – charitywatch.orgThe Jed Foundation – jedfoundation.org988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline – 988lifeline.orgSubmit your wins or questions – beitpod.com/questionsVitality Medical and Wellness - https://www.vitalitymwc.orgDr. Amy's TEDx talk on pregnancy - https://beitpod.com/amytedxThe Postpartum Pivot by Dr. Amy Loden - https://vitalitymwc.org/read-the-bookWomen's Health Initiative - https://www.whi.orgSubmit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questions If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! 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Because it's kind of hard to become the version of yourself you want to be if you're not listening to the version of yourself that you are.Lesley Logan 0:08  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Brad Crowell 0:51  Take it away.Lesley Logan 0:52  Welcome back to the "Be It Till You See" interview recap, where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the informed convo I had with Dr. Amy Logan Tiffany in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to the interview, you missed on some good fucking stuff. Oh my god, I felt like my jaw was on the floor a couple of times. It was so good. But listen to this, then go listen to that. And spoiler alert: I already interviewed her for the second one. Yeah, I just did it yesterday.Brad Crowell 1:16  Wow, awesome!Lesley Logan 1:17  Because I was just, oh great, you're back, and it was really, really. It's a really nuanced conversation. I'll explain more later. But today, Brad's going to tell us what today is.Brad Crowell 1:26  Yeah, today's September 3rd 2026, and it is Merchant Navy Day. What is a merchant navy? You ask. Let's start with what it's not. The regular navy is a branch of the countries of a country's military responsible for national defense and maritime security. In contrast, a merchant navy or the merchant navy is a civilian commercial fleet that transports cargo and passengers globally to support international trade. So effectively, they work for a company that moves products around the world.Lesley Logan 1:53  You could be a merchant navy person and work for multiple different companies.Brad Crowell 1:57  That's right. So it has nothing to do with military. It has everything to do with being a ship pilot on a cargo ship, or even a deckhand, or whatever. If you're working in the ports, I'm not sure if you're on ports, if you're part of the merchant navy, but if you're on the boats that are driving around the world, you're.Lesley Logan 2:12  Like part of the merchant corporate.Brad Crowell 2:17  Sure. Not a pirate. Lesley Logan 2:19  Good, but a pirate.Brad Crowell 2:20  Pirates are real, so yeah, they're definitely not pirates. Okay, yeah, but the merchant navy actually would fight pirates. They're.Lesley Logan 2:26  Like a consumer sailor.Brad Crowell 2:28  Yes, yeah, it's like a, yes, that's right, a commercial sailor.Lesley Logan 2:32  Commercial sailor.Brad Crowell 2:33  Yes.Lesley Logan 2:34  Yeah.Brad Crowell 2:34  Yeah. But it's probably not sailing a boat so much as it is sailing a vessel. Lesley Logan 2:38  Vessel, yeah.Brad Crowell 2:39  Anyway, so Merchant Navy Day sails into view every September 3. Cute, a dedicated time to honor the invaluable contributions of merchant seafarers worldwide. These brave men and women ensure the flow of goods, fuel, and food that powers our daily lives and economies. Take a moment to learn about their sacrifices, support maritime welfare charities, and recognize their often unseen work.Lesley Logan 3:00  I couldn't imagine they're probably on these boats for months at a time.Brad Crowell 3:04  Oh, months.Lesley Logan 3:04  Months.Brad Crowell 3:05  Months. I mean.Lesley Logan 3:06  Months on one plate, and then have to come back. They might not ever see their family.Brad Crowell 3:09  Yes, yeah. So it's absolutely the case. And for example, when I used to work in skin and hair care, we used to manufacture the, the glass was actually manufactured in Korea, and so I would have to organize the factory to take it to the port, and then the port would put it on a, it would be in pallets, and then the pallets would get loaded into a container, those 40-foot containers, and then the container would go on this massive cargo ship, and then it would drive across the ocean. It'sLesley Logan 3:41  Like the size of cruise ships, but just for products.Brad Crowell 3:43  Yeah, and then one year there was a strike for the union workers at the port in Long Beach, and I remember our cargo ship got stuck in a line. Lesley, there was a line of 50 cargo ships.Lesley Logan 3:58  Do you remember? Because during the pandemic, it's even happened. I feel like our friend Joe Lilly had to send a ship out to a ship to get his stuff. It was a whole thing because there's, what the fuck? We got to get these products off the ship.Brad Crowell 4:09  Yeah, and that's very dangerous to do that stuff, you know, on the open water like that because there's just complicated.Lesley Logan 4:14  Yeah, so pirates.Brad Crowell 4:15  Well, not. I mean, when you have 50 boats in a row, there's unlikely that there's going to be pirates because there's also going to be the navy, the military, oh, the military navy, yeah, will be out making sure that everything is safe. But still, regardless, yeah, I mean, so they had to sail across the ocean, and then they turn around and they have to go back. But the company that they work for, they might be in a whole other country. It's like an airline pilot.Lesley Logan 4:37  Yeah.Brad Crowell 4:37  You know, for example, one time we were flying to Cambodia, and we were flying through China. And I think maybe it was just me. I sat next to a guy on the plane who was a pilot, and he's from Brazil, flies for a Chinese airline, and then his Chinese flights would go to Europe. His home is in Brazil. He had to fly to China to get on his flight, his job, to fly to Europe, back and forth to China, you know what I mean.Lesley Logan 5:02  Got to.Brad Crowell 5:03  Move, got to move.Lesley Logan 5:04  Got to move. Anyway, anyway, we have to point out what's going on right now.Brad Crowell 5:09  Yeah, what I wanted to point out right now is that at the time of this recording, there are around 6000 commercial seafarers remaining stranded aboard hundreds of merchant ships in and around the Strait of Hormuz following the sudden collapse of a U.S.-Iran ceasefire agreement, so shipping through this vital energy corridor has ground to a near standstill due to the drones and missiles and all the signs that are goingLesley Logan 5:33  Oh, yeah.Brad Crowell 5:33  So hopefully by the time you're hearing this episode, trade is going to flow again, and there are no more trapped sailors. But it's been devastating. You know, they're not military. They're just trying to do their job, and they're stuck on these ships. And they're not getting food. And if they're getting sick, there's no way to get to them to even give them the supplies that they need. It's quite a problem. And sometimes it feels like it's getting solved, and then it all goes to shit again. So hopefully. Lesley Logan 5:57  I know we're over here talking about our gas prices, but there's literal people whose they're not involved with any country or military, and they're just trying to do their job and they're stuck.Brad Crowell 6:05  Yep. Yeah. So just raising awareness and a big, big shout out to those who do this kind of work for their job. Thanks for doing all that because you make the world go round.Lesley Logan 6:14  Yeah. Well, speaking of the world going round, I started teacher training program.Brad Crowell 6:20  Wow. Yeah.Lesley Logan 6:21  You know, because we got to keep bringing in new people to the Pilates industry. Brad Crowell 6:25  Yes, we do. Lesley Logan 6:25  Because some of us are going to retire someday. So, if you heard the rumor that I started teacher training program, I did. I'm here to let you know it's true, and it's called upLift. Starting early next year, you'll be able to find an epic teacher trainer near you that will host my program. I'm going to work alongside them, guiding them and coaching them and supporting them so that they can support you on your journey. So if you are a new teacher or partially trained Pilates instructor, if you want to study under what I've created and my material, you want to go to xxll.co/uws. That's upLift waitlist student, xxll.co/uws. If you're already a comprehensively trained teacher and you're looking for more of a master's program and you want to learn directly with me, that is going to be our eLevate program. That's lesleylogan.co/elevate. We are filling 2028 as we speak. 2027 is full, and only eLevate grads can apply to be an educator for upLift. So, just some food for thought on that. We have been home from our summer tour for a little bit, and we are hanging out. We're doing some good stuff. I'm super excited to be home because it's going to get real crazy real quick. But we want to say thank you to Balanced Body because they sponsored our tour. We're able to go to some really great new cities on our summer tour, and our winter tour will announce in less than a month. And you want to be on the wait list for that, opc.me/events, because the winter tour always does sell out really quickly, really quick, really quickly because we get to hit a lot of cities, a lot of little cities where stuff doesn't go to like conventions and things like that. We get to hit some of our favorite cities. Shout out to Hershey because you always sell out in some places like that. So make sure you are over there. Supporting this podcast when you listen and you share with friends and you leave reviews is one of the greatest things you can do. It's totally free, and I really, really appreciate it. But if you want to continue support the podcast in other ways, if you are an OPC member, that's one of my ways you can do that. And then you get Pilates, and you get support, and you get community, and you get my feedback on your form. So you can go to onlinepilatesclasses.com, or you can also check out our amazing flashcards. Our flashcards are different pieces of apparatus. They're for anyone who loves Pilates. They can be used in a variety of different ways, and you can go to opc.me/flashcards for that. By the way, when you buy our flashcards, a part of your purchase goes to Nevada SPCA. And you might be thinking, Lesley, I don't live in Nevada. Yeah, well, guess what? We got some dogs and cats and bunnies and chinchillas here. Sometimes some lizards that need a home, and you are helping do that. In fact, our last quarter donation supported 114 shelter animals' food for one whole week.Brad Crowell 8:50  Yeah.Lesley Logan 8:51  114.Brad Crowell 8:52  Yeah, that's pretty amazing.Lesley Logan 8:53  Yeah. So, anyways, you can also get our posters. So there's that opc.me/posters. Okay, this is getting longer and longer every week, Brad. Brad Crowell 9:02  Well, this is just quick. So, our upcoming travel stuff. We've got Cambodia coming up in October. If you want to join us on retreat there, get on the waitlist for next year. Go to crowsnestretretreats.com. Lesley and I are going to be in Sacramento for Balanced Body's 50th anniversary party. They have a POT happening in Sacramento, so you can go to xxll.co/pot for more information on that. Lesley's actually teaching in China. We have no idea how to tell you any more information about that. But that's exciting.Lesley Logan 9:27  I don't have any links. But, I'm teaching in China. The second annual Pilates summit outside of Shanghai.Brad Crowell 9:33  Yeah, that's in November. Then the beginning of December, you're teaching in India in Goa.Lesley Logan 9:38  Yeah, and am I crazy enough to go back and forth? Yes, I fucking am.Brad Crowell 9:41  Because you're flying literally to meet me in Denver, and we go on a winter tour. Lesley Logan 9:44  And also, I can't live in any of these places. I have to come home.Brad Crowell 9:50  Let's roll straight into the charity of the week. September is Suicide Prevention Awareness Month, and we're very, very excited to talk about AFSP or the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention. It is the nation's leading suicide prevention organization, founded in 1987, and now working through 73 chapters in all 50 states, D.C. and Puerto Rico. The AFSP funds research into what actually prevents suicide, trains clinicians and everyday people to recognize warning signs, supports survivors of loss, and it pushes for policy change, most of it funded not by big checks, but by hundreds of 1000s of small donors, just like you and I, showing up during their Out of the Darkness community walks nationwide. So they do an event, Out of the Darkness community walks, and that's what helps raise money. So it's about as trustworthy of a charity as it gets. They get a four-star exceptional rating from the Charity Navigator. Over 80% of every dollar going straight to their programs, and they have a top-rated distinction from Charity Watch, which is the toughest watchdog in the space. The AFSP also recently announced plans to merge with the Jed Foundation, becoming the country's largest suicide prevention organization, spanning every age group, so any donation is landing at a moment when their reach is about to grow. Suicide has touched your life or someone you love, and statistically, for a lot of our listeners, it has. Yeah, this is a place where showing up really helps. Find more, find out about your local chapter by going to afsp.org, afsp.org, and you can actually, in the United States, there is a suicide crisis lifeline. Instead of 911, it's 988, so you can call or text 988 for free, it's confidential, and it's 24/7. Yeah, so I didn't actually know about 988. I knew that there were prevention phone numbers you could call, but I didn't realize that it was as easy as that.Lesley Logan 11:39  It's important because we all have, we all have hard times. Mental health is a is something that should not be a privileged thing that some insurance companies cover. And then if you don't have that, you don't have that. We all are, no one is immune. And we had a dear friend who actually used to work for the Nevada chapter of the AFSP, AFSP, and I got to see the work that she did for two years, and it's really quite incredible what they're doing just to support people. And I can't think of, like, if you're needing community, what you can go be community for people who need it, and you'd be surprised how that can help. But if you need their help, definitely reach out or go to 988 because this is real shit, you know. So, anyways, what else, Brad? Oh, you guys can send in the charities you want us to shout out?Brad Crowell 12:21  Yeah, text us 310-905-5534. Yeah, stick around. We're gonna dig into this convo with Dr. Amy Loden. Brad Crowell 12:30  Welcome back. Let's talk about Amy Loden. Dr. Amy Loden, based in St. Louis, Missouri, nearly died from severe preeclampsia with heart failure during a high-risk twin pregnancy, an experience that exposed major gaps in conventional care and reshaped how she practices medicine. She's a physician, entrepreneur, and the founder of Vitality MWC, a practice focused on women's metabolic and hormonal health, guiding patients through postpartum recovery, perimenopause, and long-term hormonal balance. She's a TEDx speaker, and she also is the author of the Postpartum Pivot. I will have the link for her book in the show notes below.Lesley Logan 13:09  Important. If you had a baby, you need the book, and it's not, oh, I've had a baby 15 years ago. I think you need the book still. I think it's about all health stuff that happens if you've had babies.Brad Crowell 13:18  Yeah, and what a revealing conversation, you know, with her about what it does to what being pregnant and going through that does to the body and how it reveals things. I thought it was really interesting. So yeah. Anyway, what's one of the things you love that she said?Lesley Logan 13:34  Oh my God, there's so many good stuff. We talked. I mean, we talked about. You've also.Brad Crowell 13:37  Just blended two conversations. So.Lesley Logan 13:39  I'm gonna work on not doing that. We're gonna work on. I'm gonna. Well, I mean, you had.Brad Crowell 13:43  One yesterday. Forget.Lesley Logan 13:44  The one I had yesterday. So we talked about perimenopause, and it's very interesting because I think the way she talked about us in the past, people have treated perimenopause like yes or no. I don't have this thing. I have this thing. No, I don't have that thing. But actually, the symptoms are a sliding scale for every woman, and we all have to figure out where we are on the spectrum, which means we just have to be paying attention to our bodies, which is not easy to you when you're really busy and you've got a lot going on. But so she also said, you know, you are going to have those unpredictable ups and downs. There are going to be some months where your ovaries are working like fire, and you're just like, I'm amazing. There's other months where you just feel like you got run over by a truck. And I think it's really nice to have a doctor who's a female who says that because usually they're, oh, well, you don't have it that bad or we can give you these drugs to cover up those symptoms, but really she's talking aboutBrad Crowell 14:28  Or she said her own experience was, okay, you're within the numbers, see you next time, and that's it.Lesley Logan 14:34  Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, and also it's like, okay, well, you're within the numbers, but are those the best numbers for you, you know? And so really filling out, you have to figure out where you are. You, my listener, have to figure out where you are, because that will help you advocate for what you need. And it's really important. I'm really grateful for the doctors that I've had because they can. They have said you are within range, but it's not optimal for you. So they were able to give me support so that I could be optimal for me, and I like how she, you know, perimenopause is like reverse adolescence, and it's like this, you know, you're when you're a young girl, you're going through all the puberty, and you have all the hormonal fluctuations, roller coaster rides, and all of a sudden, hopefully, hopefully you have some. I don't know, that wasn't my experience with periods, but like you have this nice, enjoyable couple decades, and then you reverse back. Yeah, it's like a.Brad Crowell 15:20  Reverse hormone, reverse puberty, reverse puberty. I was like, the word is there somewhere. Yeah.Lesley Logan 15:25  And somebody said, somebody said, who is the asshole who let mothers go through perimenopause when their daughters are going through puberty? And it's like, yeah, but remember, people used to have kids at 16, so that wasn't happening. Actually, but it's here's the thing: if you actually are really into perimenopause and loving women, if you do some historical work on what women's roles were, and I'm not talking about like the assholes or like what the grandma's roles, I'm not talking about that because I'm not a grandma. But the women who get after perimenopause, they became these healers and these doulas for the women who were having the babies and coming up, and they're also the ones that held the history and the stories, and so if we can think of it like that, it kind of makes us feel like we're going into our queendom, you know, like we're going in something cool. So she said, and in case you don't know this, it can run anywhere from 10 to 15 years for you actually go through menopause. And Brad's eyes just lit up, and just and then we've said on the podcast before, but menopause is one day.Brad Crowell 16:21  I was gonna say that. Yeah.Lesley Logan 16:22  It's one day, and then you're like post-menopause.Brad Crowell 16:26  And then.Lesley Logan 16:27  You're on the other side.Brad Crowell 16:28  You're on the other side.Lesley Logan 16:28  Yeah, and then and then if you're lucky, you get two years before you have the shittiest heart like men do. So like it's really fucking awful thing. So ladies, you want to keep your hormones going real well for a long, long time because it doesn't get easier.Brad Crowell 16:44  Yeah, she also did mention HRTs. She kind of didn't actually explicitly say that, but she mentioned that all the hormonal research that had been done in the early 2000s, a lot of that has been disproven and also challenged. And there's a lot more information about it now. So, you know, if you have an assumption that you about that that kind of stuff that you've had with you for a long time, I would recommend it's worth revisiting.Lesley Logan 17:08  I would agree with her. I know I've had women challenge me on this who've had family members with experience of breast cancer, and I understand their experience. But I am someone who has double the risk, and my breast doctor is not opposed to me being on HRT, and my gynecologist is not opposed to being on HRT. I'm not currently on estrogen either. I'm only on two of them, but they're not even opposed to me doing that because the risks of me having heart problems are greater, and I'm on a serious watch. So she.Brad Crowell 17:36  Did also mention that it's not for everybody. It can't be for everyone. Lesley Logan 17:39  No, nothing can be for everybody.Brad Crowell 17:40  Right. Right. So it's something for you to have that conversation with your healthcare provider.Lesley Logan 17:44  But I will also, before we move on, I want to just want to say, if you are worried about the breast cancer risks, there are ways to get tested multiple times a year. So I'm on an every-six-month test schedule, and so I still have decisions I probably want to think about, but also, I'm pretty sure they're going to catch it early because I'm going every six months. So it is a personal decision you must make, but please don't make it out of fear from people saying shit to you on the internet. Talk with your doctors.Brad Crowell 18:15  Yeah, yeah. One thing that I found really interesting about what she was talking about was the way that being pregnant and then going through the process of having a child or giving birth, she said, what it does is it actually unveils what was already there, right? So for her case, giving birth was a stress test on her body, and that it revealed what already was in her body. Yeah, you know, genetically probably.Lesley Logan 18:40  Wasn't coming up on any tests because it was probably in range. Yeah, we've had family members with this, and it makes me go and go, "Oh my God, we need to text them right now." Because there's things you can do when you're younger to take care of stuff that's harder to reverse when you're older.Brad Crowell 18:53  Yeah, sure. But she said that, you know, giving birth is a stress test of a woman's metabolism and cardiovascular system. She explained that culturally we view pregnancy and complications as something that where the answer is into the pregnancy and then it's gone. It happened during the pregnancy only and then afterwards they're all better.Lesley Logan 19:13  Right?Brad Crowell 19:13  Everything's good. It's gone.Lesley Logan 19:14  But it's not gone. The underlying condition still there.Brad Crowell 19:17  Yeah, exactly. She's saying that conditions such as the one she experienced, preeclampsia, it reveals underlying inflammation or insulin resistance that was a previous, you know, something her body was dealing with before. It just all of a sudden was stressed, and that's where something got stuck, right? So she said those conditions are not done after you've given birth. It's just simply something that's been unmasked by the physical toll of pregnancy, and once it's been unmasked, now you can treat it, and it's important to continue to treat it. And I think that's also why Lesley was suggesting at the beginning of the episode that her book is still valuable, even if you've had a child, you know, 15 years ago, because, you know, maybe maybe you did have something that went on. And you haven't looked at it as something that still exists in your body today that you will, you know, hopefully won't have to deal with, but you might have to deal with it as you age.Lesley Logan 20:08  Well, you have to listen to the episode because I have to listen to the episode because, my loves, women's heart conditions, the number one symptom for a woman having a heart problem is sudden death.Brad Crowell 20:20  Sudden death.Lesley Logan 20:21  Sudden death. I like. I think I like peeked the mic when I heard that. Brad Crowell 20:26  Yeah, I heard. I heard you in in my office. What?Lesley Logan 20:29  Yeah, yeah. So and I share that with you because unfortunately there still isn't enough information about women's bodies. A lot of information is still based off of men's bodies, and so tests and studies I've done on men only in the last decade-ish have they said you have to study these things on women, right? But we don't really know a lot of information that we should know by now. There should be information on that, and so why I'm like so insistent on you knowing this information is that when you're younger there are things that might look like they're in range, but if stressed, your body can't handle it. Now, stress is not a bad thing because you can also stress a body, and like your body responds the way it's supposed to.Brad Crowell 21:11  It gets stronger, and it.Lesley Logan 21:12  Gets stronger. Sure, but not every body does that because of genetics, because of too much stress, because of the fuel you're having with the sleep, where you are with your hormones. Did you have those things? And so it's just so important that we advocate for ourselves, my loves. Because, and I know, I know insurance is shit. Still got to do it.Brad Crowell 21:31  Yeah, got to do it. Well, stick around. We'll be right back. We're gonna dig into these be it action items we have with Dr. Amy. Finally, let's talk about those. Be it action items, what bold, executable, intrinsic, or targeted action items can we take away from your conversation with Dr. Amy Logan? She advises women to specifically pay attention to whether their vasomotor systems, hot flashes, night flashes, night sweats—sorry—are happening most days of the week or more than 10 times a day. If you hit that threshold and you choose not to take hormones, she warns you actually have an increased risk for cardiovascular disease or a stroke. Now, obviously, she's not your doctor, right, or our doctor, and she's not. This is like something for you to be aware of to take back to your doctor. But effectively, that's, you know, when she's talking with her patients. That's her barometer. That's her measuring stick. Lesley Logan 22:23  Can you imagine 10 hot flashes?Brad Crowell 22:26  I cannot.Lesley Logan 22:27  Because I don't even have them. But I can't even imagine. I saw that woman on Instagram where you could like see the hot flash, the one that went around. She had 10 of those a day. You have to take a shower. I don't even how you. I don't even know how you do it.Brad Crowell 22:38  Yeah. So while it's not a blanket prescription, she says, and not every woman in the category can or should take hormones. She said it's important for you to understand that that, you know, if you're hitting a point like that, you definitely want to seek professional help to get a medical assessment so that you can make a really informed decision about your health for your future. She urges this listeners not to base decisions on outdated fears. The hormones that we take today are different and safer than what was in the Women's Health Initiative that came out in the early 2000s. So, what about you?Lesley Logan 23:11  She said, "Be true to what your body is telling you." And I think this is really key because I think a lot of times we brush off or push things off or think we ate something bad that one time, or blah blah blah. But really, your body is talking to you, and it doesn't have to. We don't want to wait till it's in crisis, and then we don't want to go, "Oh my god, everything is wrong." We actually, if we were, if we're really paying attention to ourselves, we can start to spot patterns because the doctor cannot be with you every single day, so they are not going to spot the pattern. But you can bring them the pattern, and you are paying attention to yourself. You can do that, and so if you are struggling, you're doing all the things to sleep, and you're not sleeping. That is something you have to tell because your body is telling you, "I don't have the hormones and the things to sleep, which then all of a sudden everything is going to start to shut down in a terrible way when that happens. So make sure you're listening to your body, and you'll become more wise, and you'll even become a better version of yourself. And I thought, what better way to be it till we see it, but to listen to our body? Because it's kind of hard to become the version of yourself you want to be if you're not listening to the version of yourself that you are.Brad Crowell 24:12  That's true.Lesley Logan 24:13  Anyways, I'm telling you guys, my mind is blown and.Brad Crowell 24:16  We already had her back for another episode, so that's going to come out in the near future. Here, what was that topic about?Lesley Logan 24:22  It's a nuanced conversation about metabolism, and it's specifically for people who are in more of an insulin resistance. So it's not, it's going to sound like it's a weight loss conversation. We are not advocating that everyone needs to lose weight, but there's. Brad Crowell 24:35  She was talking about how movement is involved.Lesley Logan 24:37  Yes, right.Brad Crowell 24:38  And then movement. How soon after you've eaten should you be moving, and what kind of movement, and then also how often should you be eating?Lesley Logan 24:46  Yes, and all of that depends on your health.Brad Crowell 24:48  Yeah.Lesley Logan 24:48  Right. And your health is any different. The conversation is not about this weight is the healthy weight. It's not that at all, but that weight is one metric in the biometrics, and so we go into if you have this measurement off, what could also be affecting in the other biometrics, and then how do we address that? Because it's all part of the same wheel, right? When we ended the conversation, it's a very difficult conversation because I don't want anyone to be like, "This is for me," or "This is not for me," or "I don't. I can be healthy in sights, of course, and we have to go off of your blood tests and then your weight and your blood tests, and so it's this really interesting thing, and I really appreciate it because there is information. If you don't have any of these problems, you get to do your thing and have fun until hopefully forever. But if you are struggling with certain biometrics in your blood work and your weight is off, then it's not about losing weight, like every doctor tells you. It's about doing these things that she talks about to help you get your metrics to be where they need to be, and then the weight may or may not change, but the metrics will be better. Anyways, it's so good. I'm so excited about it. It's really great. So stay tuned. But until then, make sure that you send this to a woman in your life who needs to hear it because there's some epic medical information that no one has told me shocked the hell out of me. And then you can also reach out to Dr. Amy Loden if you would like to talk with her. If you live in the United States, so share with her what your takeaways were. All right. Until next time, Be It Till You See It.Brad Crowell 26:14  Bye for now.Lesley Logan 26:15  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. 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Ladies, if you have ever been told your labs look normal while your body says otherwise, this one is for you. Dr. Amy Loden is a physician who nearly died from preeclampsia and now builds her practice around what medicine misses in women. She breaks down why pregnancy complications are a warning sign, what perimenopause is really doing to you, and why heart disease deserves your attention more than you think. You will walk away knowing what to ask for and why it matters.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:How pregnancy complications reveal health risks that were already there.Why perimenopause symptoms get dismissed as normal aging.The heart disease signs that look nothing like the classic ones.Why good quality sleep matters more than hours in bed.How to eat and move to protect your metabolic health.Episode References/Links:Vitality Medical and Wellness - https://www.vitalitymwc.orgDr. Amy's TEDx talk on pregnancy - https://beitpod.com/amytedxDr. Amy Tiffany on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/dramytiffanyDr. Amy Loden on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/amy-lodenThe Postpartum Pivot by Dr. Amy Loden - https://vitalitymwc.org/read-the-bookSubmit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsGuest Bio:Dr. Amy Loden Tiffany is a St. Louis-based physician entrepreneur, author, and TEDx speaker dedicated to women's metabolic, hormonal, and cardiovascular health. After surviving severe preeclampsia and experiencing burnout in traditional, high-volume medicine, she pivoted her career toward a personalized, root-cause approach to patient care. As the founder of Vitality, she guides women through major life transitions—from postpartum to perimenopause—to help them recognize subtle warning signs and prevent long-term illness. Through her clinical work and her book, The Postpartum Pivot, Dr. Loden empowers high-achieving women to listen to their bodies, optimize performance, and take control of their long-term health.  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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Then we have to ask, what are we stressing it for? And the way I'm looking at this is a little bit different than how I was trained, which again was if you got the problem, the solution is in the pregnancy. So what if we started looking at pregnancy from the perspective of this is an unveiling, an unveiling of what was already there, and that nothing's actually gone wrong. Lesley Logan 0:29  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 1:11  Oh my God, Be It babe. Get ready. Get your notepad out. Get ready. If you're driving, listen. You're gonna re-listen. You're gonna share this episode with everybody. I am so freaking stoked about the guest that we have. I fell in love with her with every single answer, and we need women like this in the medical world. So Dr. Amy Loden is our guest today. We're going to talk everything from postpartum to perimenopause and heart health, because ladies, you can't be it till you see it if you get sick, cannot. And I know it's confusing. There's so much information out there in the world, and it's like, who do we trust? What do we do? And I'm just so grateful I found her, and you're gonna love it. So make sure you get ready to hit share on this episode for women in your life and the men who need to know about what women are going through. My mind is blown on the episode. Here's Dr. Amy Loden.Lesley Logan 1:54  All right, Be It babe, I'm excited. I'm super stoked. We're gonna talk about all things women, health-related, with an amazing professional person who actually studies this stuff, not what I've read, and then I'm asserting to you because I don't want to be that influencer. I think those people need to take a little step back and let the professionals do it. We have Dr. Amy Loden here on the show, who's going to tell us everything we need to know. But Dr. Amy, we tell everyone who you are and what you rock at, kind of how you got here.Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 2:20  Sure, thanks for inviting me. I'm happy to be here, Dr. Amy Loden. I am in St. Louis, Missouri. I help primarily women over 40, but certainly anyone who's like, "How are my hormones working for my life or not? How is my weight in the mirror matching the weight in my head or not?" And all the things that come with life transitions from postpartum to perimenopause, beyond, my goal is that women who've interacted with our team will have a better care experience because it's the care experience we want each of us to have had ourselves, and because each of us are not only professionals within the medical nursing communities, we're patients too, or daughters and sisters and mothers and neighbors and all the things. We know how much it sucks to be patient, right? And so we've tried to redesign what is the best thing for our ladies. Now, in full transparency, we do have a few dudes, but most of them have had their arms twisted by our rock-star ladies, and they are the ones that are coming because they're forced to. And eventually, they decide they like us, but we're pretty cool too. So that's who we serve, and that's what we do. And happy to go into any detail or rabbit hole you want to chase?Lesley Logan 3:21  Oh my God, Amy! I love that. When people ask about the people who listen to this podcast, we have mostly women and a few good men because there are some men out there, including my husband. They want to be interested. They want to. They want their partners, the women, their lives. They want to get what's going on. They don't want them to feel like an alien or like they're alone in this journey. So I think that's really, really cool. I also just want to highlight. I love that you brought up your patients too, because as someone who I feel very lucky to go through my perimenopause journey in today's time when people actually are talking about it, versus even 10 years ago, generations were not talking about this stuff, and I just feel it's really nice because then there's information I would never have known about HRT unless my girlfriend had told me about it. Oh, that could be going on, and then I could talk to someone. Can we go back though? Yeah, I feel like to be a doctor like yourself, who has empathy and understands, like you must have gone through a journey as well. You don't just want to do this Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 4:13  Because you wanted to do this. That's true. Lesley Logan 4:16  Maybe there are a few. There might be a few, but typically, like there there has there's a story there that got you to be like I want to care about this. So can you tell us a little bit more about that?Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 4:24  Absolutely, yeah. So definitely with the traditional college to medical school road, really didn't understand that there's a and I say this with all the love in my heart, but there is a bit of brainwashing to be a good doctor, right? And what is a good doctor was who you've been told it is. It's not necessarily an external criteria. It's who does academic medical center say, and that was very different. I learned through transferring all of my non-medical student fears into the actual application of those fears, and then being a patient and living those fears. That I realized there's a whole lot we're not talking about. There's a whole lot that we're not being told, both as doctors and as women, as patients, and it's hard to realize you don't know what you don't know if you've been told you're the expert and you know everything, right? And most doctors don't go around saying they know everything, but there's enough patients who feel like that's what's communicated, that that's the language I'm using.Lesley Logan 5:18  Yeah.Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 5:19  And that's really frustrating as a patient, so I didn't realize how frustrating though it was until I was a patient, and I'm a mom of five kids, my third and fourth are twins, and really I am so grateful to live in the United States in a time in history where complicated pregnancies does not mean that mom dies, because I developed severe preeclampsia with heart failure, and my twins came 31 weeks instead of at least 37, and I nearly died the night they were born. They nearly died the night they were born, and I just am grateful that God let me be in this situation that I had the help I needed. Historically, these are not good situations. We see this on TV and in movies frequently. And something like 70,000 women a year across the globe die of the same disease I had, preeclampsia. So it's not nothing, even in our day and age, in certain countries, and even in countries where you have advanced medical care and they do everything right. It can still happen. So, that for me was the pinnacle of this isn't working. What we're telling people to do isn't working because I had done all the things.Lesley Logan 6:30  Right, you were a doctor. You did all the things. I did all the things. You enjoyed all the appointments. You were probably doing, and this is your third and fourth. So you knew what it should feel like. You knew what you should be eating. You knew all the vitamins to take.Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 6:41  Correct, and it didn't work, right? It didn't work, and so I think that is the fundamental kind of if you place a pivot on why did I change how I think about healthcare as a doctor, it was because of my experience as a patient for myself. My husband had cancer twice, so being the advocate for him in those types of things, guiding my children and now my parents through healthcare, you start to carry a lot of stories, and you start to see, wow, they're not doing what I think is just the bare minimum. And if they're not doing that for me or for my family, I know they're not doing it for everybody else.Lesley Logan 7:11  Yeah.Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 7:12  And then at the same time, holding a ton of grace in my heart because that's—they're doing what they were taught.Lesley Logan 7:17  Right?Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 7:17  Right. And they can't do differently if they don't know differently. You can't be better if you don't know to be better.Lesley Logan 7:23  Yeah.Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 7:23  So that is a really tight tension. But I thought I would just keep plodding through and just be a better doctor in that context of me being a patient until a little—I guess it was two years later. My daughter at that time, my oldest, was seven, and I had about 3000 patients. I was working somewhere between 65 and 80 hours a week, and had four kids at that time. And my daughter came up to me one night, and I'm opening the computer. I'm doing work like I do every night, and she says, "You're gonna make my birthday gifts. Like, can I help?" Right, totally innocent seven-year-old looking forward to her birthday knows that her mom shops online, right? And so she's like, "I want to pick my birthday presents," and I kind of stared at her. I was like, "No, no, I'm going to work. We'll do that later," and go watch whatever show. It's probably Paw Patrol for all I know, right? That's in the background. Go watch it. It's gonna be bedtime soon. And she just stands there, and I haven't even looked at her at this point. My eyes are on my computer. I'm just telling her this as I'm going. I'm totally not in the moment, right?Lesley Logan 8:19  Of course, because like you have so many, you have 3000 patients and four kids.Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 8:23   I can't keep up. I can't keep up. Right? I'm barely getting enough sleep. I'm not exercising, and I'm just trying to survive. And she doesn't move. And so I remember not totally slow motion, but I remember turning to her and feeling like I was going to be like, "What?" Right? What do you need? And she's just got out of the shower, so her hair's wet. She's got her pink pajamas on, bright big blue eyes, and they're full of tears. And there are just silent tears tracking down her face, and I'm horrified. Oh my gosh, what's wrong? Right now, I'm in fix-it mode.Lesley Logan 8:55  Yeah.Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 8:55  And she still doesn't really budge, and she just says in a very sad voice, "Mommy. Why do you love your job more than me?"Lesley Logan 9:05  Oh.Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 9:07  Yes. So the twins tried to kill me. She did kill me, right? Like, that was a knife in my heart because nothing ever had I wanted to be better than a so-called good doctor than to be a good mom.Lesley Logan 9:17  Yeah.Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 9:18  And that was for me the moment that I realized I'm not doing either of these well, and I'm not showing up how I want to be personally or professionally. I'm certainly not taking care of my health. I'm not doing the things I'm telling my patients to do. Like, it was a moment where I really felt the failures. I felt all the feelings, and I told my husband that night, "This is not working anymore." And he actually thought I thought was talking about our marriage, and so he was like, "Oh my gosh, what's wrong with our marriage?" Right? No, but I need to, like, redo. We have to redo this. I either have to retire, or I have to do something different.Lesley Logan 9:51  Yeah.Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 9:51  And he was like, "You're not retiring. You will drive me crazy. Go find something different to do, and I will make sure our family is okay." And so I did. And this June will be five years of having Vitality here in St. Louis and serving women and trying to lean into all the pain and the things and the feelings they're dealing with from all the things and the feelings I dealt with having walked that path.Lesley Logan 10:13  Yeah. Oh, Dr. Amy, I love that you shared that whole story because I think there's so many women who are listening here and, like, they don't have, they may have one kid or they have no kids, but, like, I think we can all relate to, like, having just too much on the plate because.Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 10:27  Right.Lesley Logan 10:28  Hello, my high-achieving woman. I see you, everyone here listening. We call recovering perfectionists and overachievers. There's nothing wrong with being a high achiever, but what happens is we tend to just keep saying yes to things, and we're like, yeah, we can fit that one more thing in, that one more thing. All of a sudden, it just comes to, like, a volcano breaking point. Yes, and because we don't, we don't see the signs early that we are at the breaking point. We don't, you know, we, it's almost, it's actually proven to be not true. But everyone uses the frog in the boiling water, right? Like, we just kind of, like, you don't realize how hot it's getting until it's until your daughter is crying in front of you. Oh, exactly.Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 11:05  Yes, it was awful. I never want to relive that moment.Lesley Logan 11:08  Yeah, but also, like, thank goodness for her because that she felt brave enough to say that. Like, what a badass she is. I mean, she's just going to be, like, she's just going to be a girl who speaks her mind. She does.Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 11:18  She's 13 now, and she heard me tell that story once, and now she's like, "Well, you have to credit me for opening your business because I hadn't said what I did." I was like, "Won't you just tone it down a notch, please?"Lesley Logan 11:27  It's called balance, babe. It's called balance. Yes. Okay. So, can we, like, let's get to some of the health stuff that I think our listeners want to—I want to definitely get into perimenopause, but I do want to, because we started with a pregnancy, and I have had family members who, you know, have had preeclampsia in their, and it's scary. So, how are pregnancy complications connected to long-term heart risk? I don't think anyone's thought about that. I just thought, like, if it's because I don't have kids, like it's going to screw up your pelvic floor, and you might have to rebuild your abs and these other things. But I didn't know it can affect your heart long term.Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 12:01  I had no idea. I'm so glad you brought that up. So I actually did a TEDx talk on this very topic, where the idea is pregnancy is so much more than just the birth of a kid. That's how we think about pregnancy in our culture. That's even how we think of it medically, right? Like if you have preeclampsia, you have gestational diabetes, you have high blood pressure, whatever in pregnancy, the answer is end the pregnancy, deliver the kid if they're old enough, right? Like, get, move it along and it's gone. But that I strongly believe is not true. We can't test this in a lab, so you have to do a little bit of extrapolation here. But if we're going to call pregnancy a stress test, which is becoming an increasingly common term, is pregnancy a stress test of a woman's metabolism and her cardiovascular system? Then we have to ask, what are we stressing it for? And the way I'm looking at this is a little bit different than how I was trained, which again was, if you got the problem, the solution is in the pregnancy. So, what if we started looking at pregnancy from the perspective of this is an unveiling, an unveiling of what was already there, and that nothing's actually gone wrong. It's scary. It's horrifying. And yes, absolutely, people die. So how can I say nothing's gone wrong? What I mean is nothing has gone wrong in the context of the situation we put your body in. It's exactly responding the way it should for the context it's in. So if I have underlying insulin resistance, and then I put a pregnancy on top of that or perimenopause, and I'm starting to have more insulin resistance. Well, of course I'm going to develop gestational diabetes. If I'm having a lot more fluid retention and I'm putting up a low weight, of course my blood pressure is going to go up, right? If I've got underlying inflammation, of course preeclampsia is going to develop. So I think we need to stop and think about it as it's not done; it is unmasked.Lesley Logan 13:42  Got it. Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 13:42  And then once you know it's unmasked, you treat it.Lesley Logan 13:45  I see. I see. Because again, we think of pregnancy as just the baby, so you have the baby, but it's well, but there's a problem, an underlying problem that the pregnancy revealed is what you're saying. And so great if having the baby is the safest thing for both people, we do that. But also, you still have this underlying issue.Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 14:01  Yes, it's still there. Correct.Lesley Logan 14:03  Yes, and I don't think anyone does that. I think they're just, "Okay. Now you don't have gestational diabetes anymore." But I have had clients who had it, and then afterwards, so what do we got? Oh, I'm fine. Are you correct? I don't think so. I'm not a doctor, but they're not fine. Don't just be diabetes. Yeah, for a moment. Yes.Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 14:19  So I actually experienced this as a patient too. I went in after my first pregnancy with gestational diabetes. At the time, I was living in New York City. I walked everywhere. I was a normal weight. I ate pretty clean, and despite being in residency, I'd got decent sleep. I didn't have any other kids. It's my first kid, so I got decent sleep. Right, but I had the baby after having had gestational diabetes. I go see my OB, and she's, "Oh, just follow up with your primary doctor." I go see my primary doctor, and he's, "Your weight's normal, your labs are normal. We're done," and that is how I was trained too. So again, lots of love in my heart. They're not; they're just not told. But for more than 10 years, we've known that women who have these high-risk pregnancies are at high risk not just for diabetes, but heart disease, stroke, kidney failure, dementia. Listen, I can't treat dementia well in the clinic, right? So why wouldn't I want all hands on deck trying to prevent it?Lesley Logan 15:07  Yeah.Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 15:07  But that's not how our medical professionals are trained—nurses, advanced practice providers, any of them. And so we're asking people and expecting people to fill in a gap they don't know exists, and so all these reproductive-age women are falling into it. And then where it gets really interesting is some of the same things you have immediately postpartum in all your different types of hormone fluctuations are matched intermittently for 10 to 15 years before menopause when you're in the perimenopausal years.Lesley Logan 15:32  What?Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 15:33  Correct, but that's why these women are feeling, "I'm going to my doctor, I'm putting on weight, I'm doing all the things, it's not working," and they're being gaslit, partly because their doctors don't know what they don't know, and partly because we're not acknowledging this is the same physiologic status of hormones that are different than baseline. So we're not in a country, and we don't have the testing that would promote or facilitate checking what is your normal hormone level at 18, so that we know what 18 should look like, and then by 45, you know, we're not. So we're trying to patchwork together a whole bunch of tests, and different labs have different testing, and different people say different things about testing. It's very confusing.Lesley Logan 16:10  Yeah.Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 16:11  And you end up with women suffering. And at the end of the day, that's the problem I'm trying to solve: is how do we stop these women from suffering? Because they are called to live big lives, to be ambitious for a purpose, for a calling. They have a lot to do, and their health is one of their biggest assets. It should not be a liability.Lesley Logan 16:27  Yeah.Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 16:27  And that's what's happening, especially for women who are trying to not work just in the home but outside the home. Right? There's a lot they're carrying. Yeah. So that's, I don't remember. Sorry, I'm having a total perimenopause moment. I don't remember where we started with that question here. I'll stop there. Lesley Logan 16:42  Don't worry, babe. I got my focus meds on the ADHD today, so I'm tracking. So we're good. But we were talking about the postpartum, and then we got into those hormones that switch as, and they can repeat into perimenopause. And I think this is fascinating. I love that you brought up. It doesn't matter if you're in the home or out of the home. We have big lives. Correct. We can't have our health be a liability, and I think for a lot of us, it feels like, like my girlfriend's a weight-loss coach for women over 40 who feel like their body gave a middle finger. That's what her coaching is, and it's all about not going to yo-yo diet. That's not going to work. We have to figure out what is the underlying issues, and it can only go so far because you said we don't test our hormones at 18. We don't do that, so we don't know what is normal for us, and I remember I was having a lot of health issues, digestive issues in my 30s, and no doctor could help me. In fact, one doctor sending me to, I was in this weird part where they study HIV and Ebola in the hospital, and she's like, "Do you know why you're here?" I don't know why I'm here. I don't. This scares the hell out of me. This feels like a department I should not be in. I'm not in any pain. I feel like I'm taking someone's spot, and so because he could, he just couldn't figure out what's going on my stomach. So I found someone who did an actual test of everything. He's so range normal. We don't know what normal is for you. We just know what the average person of this population of people that who knows who they were that were tested. So what is normal for you might not be the average. And I was, "Oh well, that's the first time anyone said anything that makes sense. That's the first time." So you can be in range, but for your hormones, but it wasn't in range for you because maybe you were used to higher testosterone, you're used to higher things. And so I love that people like you exist. I'm sorry for the frustration of your own journey, but also without people like you, women like me wouldn't have someone going, "Hey, actually, maybe you should be on testosterone right now," even though the, this is what it is. Mine was actually zero, but people, you know, we can actually get you help because I feel so much better because someone finally was listening to me and thought, "Yes, we're not going to compare you to a random person. We got to compare you to how you're used to feeling."Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 18:42  Correct. And for most people, that can't happen in the traditional system.Lesley Logan 18:47  Yeah.Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 18:47  You can't do that in a 10-minute visit.Lesley Logan 18:49  Right.Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 18:50  You can't do it when your doctor has 3000 patients, 10-minute visits, and they really don't actually know who you are.Lesley Logan 18:55  Yeah.Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 18:56  You just can't. So we've got a little bit of unrealistic expectations as a society, and then you know any women's magazine or journal article you read says, "Talk to your doctor about this." So then you go in, I'm all prepared. I have my list. I've done it too, folks. Right? This is not a criticism, but they, they can't. They don't have the ability to process it, and the way they're paid is based on the questions they ask you for insurance. So every incentive is misaligned, and at the end of the day, women, people are being screwed.Lesley Logan 19:22  Yeah, yeah. No, it's so true. So I'm glad we talked about the postpartum. I want to get into now. We're in the perimenopause, and yep, this is hard because you mentioned the hormone shift of people after postpartum is its own crazy world. I keep checking on my sister-in-law every day. How are you feeling? Are you feeling okay? Right. You feel okay? She's, "I'm fine." Are you fine? Let me just, I just want you to know. It's okay if you feel different, right? I think I'm crazy, but I know that that people don't realize how they're feeling, and it's hard to get to the doctor until it's too late. So I'm just, I'm on her. But for people like me, we didn't have children, so we have never experienced a crazy shift. We just start to experience, "I don't feel like my, anymore," and all the symptoms are so different for every single person. I'm not having hot flashes, but I'm, I got to keep my hair still here. But my inflammation was insane. I was putting on weight and working out and eating the same. And I don't understand what's going on. You know, so can we talk a little bit about what, I don't know where you want to start with that. So you tell me where you want to start with my post, my perimenopausal people who are not necessarily attributing these changes to that.Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 20:27  So I think the biggest confusion I see in the exam room conversations is that there's just question of, am I in perimenopause or not? And it's more of a less of a yes-no and more of, are you on the spectrum, and where on the spectrum are you? And so if you think of it as a sliding scale, because some months those ovaries are working really great, and you feel all the feels, and you're 18 again, but a lot of months maybe you're more like 20 or 25, right? And then maybe out of the blue, I feel like I got run over by shock. Nothing's working for two or three months, and then we're back to 25, right? And so it's ups and downs. You're like, what is happening? It is a roller coaster, and it runs anywhere from 10 to 15 years before you actually go through menopause. So I think of it as reverse adolescence, and I think it's completely ironic that God lets us have teenage girls when moms are going through perimenopause because that is just double-adolescence whammy, right?Lesley Logan 21:19  And no wonder, no wonder marriages don't survive certain things. Right, you have a daughter going through puberty and a wife with a pair of menopause. Good luck to the husband. Correct, becauseAmy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 21:28  I want to have sex. I don't want to have sex. I have pimples all over my face. I don't want to go to the house. I do. My belly's bloated. It's not like my mood's up. All the things, and it's all in reverse. So it's a it's a period of a woman's life that I think needs to be acknowledged, and then within the healthcare system, there's more noise about it over the last five years. You're seeing more and more people talk about this, but there's not a lot of standardization, and so you're getting chiropractic, functional medicine, traditional medicine. You're getting all sorts of different recommendations. So my hope is that over the next decade, we start to see some standardization, and we start to say this is what is normal for this population. You still have to apply it to the person. You cannot take population data and apply it to individuals and say that you're going to have good luck, bye. We'll see you in a year. That doesn't work. What I do think is that women need to know what's normal for that time, and then they need to decide, do they want to do something about it beyond what their body is experiencing? And here's some really interesting data that I hope your listeners suddenly stop and listen. If they don't hear anything I've said yet, this will be really important for women who have hot flashes and night sweats. Either one, they're actually the same thing. We call them vasomotor symptoms. When you have those at a certain degree, so that they're happening most days of the week, more than 10 times a day would be an easy target to kind of pay attention to. You have that, and you choose not to take hormones. You actually have an increased risk for cardiovascular disease and stroke. That does not mean every woman in that category can or should take it. There may be reasons they can't, but the hormones we use today are different than what in the Women's Health Initiative that came out in the early 2000s. So you're getting a lot of confusion because women are reading about data from that, not realizing that it has changed, and that study is not going to be redone. It was a huge study. We're not going to see data like that, so we have to make really informed decisions. But cardiovascular disease, hear me, ladies. Cardiovascular disease, which includes stroke and heart failure, kills more women every year than all your cancers combined. Yeah, I get the women and they come in religiously for their mammograms or their Pap tests, right? But they don't know that the bigger risk is that they're going to die of heart disease, cardiovascular stroke, and we know that one in eight women, roughly, have breast cancer risk, and those women get it. One in two women are getting heart disease. So there's one inLesley Logan 23:50  Two.Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 23:51  One in two. So that means there's two of us on this call, right? We already know I'm going to get it because I had preeclampsia. So I'm the one. Lesley Logan 23:56  I was going to say. I hope it's not maybe. I hope it's not you. But, like, thank God you know that because I think it's one and two, especially if you don't know. Because if you know that you're at risk, you do. Then you can you do something. I am. I'm double the risk for breast cancer, so I have to do an MRI and a mammogram every six months, and I have some decisions I might have to make in my life. But because I know.Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 24:18  Right, I can take.Lesley Logan 24:20  I can take action. Yeah, correct.Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 24:22  And you know, using that same kind of history, if someone comes in my office and says that I don't want to take hormones because I was a breast cancer, I'm like, that's fine. But let's look at all the facts. Let's lay it out like your financial advisor does, and then you can make an informed decision. Because just acting out of fear or reacting is not wise either.Lesley Logan 24:38  I actually really appreciate you mentioning that because it's true. If I'm, I'm very lucky in that I still get to do the HRT that I'm on, even with my risk. But also they're checking me every six months, and I'm checking me. So if anything's going to happen, we're going to catch it so much more quicker. Whereas the hard stuff, there's only so much you can do with that. And so if you're, especially if you're not aware. Say there's all conversations, but I liked the way you laid it out with the wealth manager. I just met with mine. He laid out here's where we're being aggressive. Here's where we're doing this. Here's what's going on here. We're going to move this over here because we're going to risk-manage these risks. And I think that's that's a better way to look at it because we're not going to, every single one of us is unfortunately going to experience something because it's a body. We're not a machine. Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 25:21  It wears out.Lesley Logan 25:22  I did not know it was one in two, girl.Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 25:26  Yeah, and what's even more disturbing, you may have heard a lot of women have by now that women's heart disease presents differently than men.Lesley Logan 25:32  Yeah, can you tell us just in case my people haven't heard because I didn't know it was one in two? So let's go over the signs.Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 25:38  A lot of times people think of what's the so-called traditional? It's the jaw pain, the radiation of pain from your chest up to your jaw, to your back, down your left arm. Very classic symptoms. Classic because it was studied in men, and then we have these so-called atypical for women because they're not typical compared to men, but they're classic for women. And so, got a little bit of lingo here that it doesn't make total sense. But for women, sometimes it's they just feel a lot more anxious than they've been for unclear reasons. They have this sense that something bad is on the horizon. They can't really place why their sleep is different. Maybe they're having some shortness of breath they didn't used to have. Maybe they go up the stairs in their house, with a laundry basket, and they're huffing and puffing when six months ago they weren't. So it can be very subtle differences. It could be a new fatigue. Check labs are normal, but the fatigue's still there. That worries me when I hear women say this. Unfortunately, the number one sign that you have heart disease is sudden death.Lesley Logan 26:33  Oh.Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 26:34  So let that sink in for a second. So we can't always wait on what the signs are.Lesley Logan 26:39  Yeah, we can't fix that. Right. Correct. Okay, so that's hard because our signs are also. I feel like high-achieving women would so easily brush away that anxiety.Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 26:51  All the stuff. Correct. Because I have a lot of tabs open.Lesley Logan 26:54  Yeah, I got this going on, or I haven't been working out, so of course I'm out of breath going up the stairs. They would just so easily.Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 26:58  It's May, it's graduation season. It's wedding season, right? This is just aging, and that's not the story at all. The problem is 10-minute visit with your doctor who has 3000 patients. They don't know who you are. They're not going to notice that this is different for you.Lesley Logan 27:13  Yeah.Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 27:13  Decreased exercise tolerance is a big one. And so, if you could walk three miles every day in your neighborhood, now you're like, "Wow, I'm really struggling to get through one." I'm worried about that. I want to know what's going on and why.Lesley Logan 27:25  Yeah. So I guess since one getting a 10-minute visit is hard. I, where I live in, I live in Las Vegas. Last I heard, we are short general practitioners by 1400. I don't have one. I go to a women's clinic, and I'm really grateful. It's a, it's also a student-teacher thing. So I actually, they've caught things because the students are asking the questions because they'reAmy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 27:44  Yes, yes.Lesley Logan 27:46  I love them. I'm so grateful for them, but are there things that women can do to check their heart, or is it just being, is it just noticing the one mile versus a three mile? What can we, what are the signs we need to be checking on?Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 27:57  Certainly be aware of what your body is telling you. Again, if you have to remember nothing else, this is another one: is that your body is smart; it will talk to you, but you have to listen.Lesley Logan 28:05  Yeah.Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 28:06  So that's really essential. If something's different, say something. You're right. There's a big collapse, if you will, of how much support we have in healthcare, whether it's nurse practitioners or chiropractor or whatever. And the issue is not all of them are trained the same way. So when I worked in the OB/GYN clinic, it became apparent to both of us, on both sides of it, that OBs know stuff about women's health. I don't know, but I know stuff about metabolic and heart health that the OBs aren't taught, and most women use their OBs as their primary care, at least to a certain age.Lesley Logan 28:32  Right.Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 28:33  And again, you don't know what you don't know, so you don't realize what you're not looking for that you should be. And our system's not set up for good collaboration. So if I could tell women, here's a checklist of things I want to make sure you get, your doctor is going to give you some resistance, most likely because they don't realize that lipoprotein with a little a, it's like in parentheses at the end of it, not the big A. Lipoprotein little a. If you have that mutation, and 10 to 20% of our population does, you have a different rate of plaque development, at least risk for that than the average risk will miss. If you have high insulin levels, you have a higher risk that you're going to be on a pathway toward diabetes. Those are not things that are standard checks. So knowing that there's other tests you can ask for, and even if your insurance doesn't cover it, they're not expensive tests. Just get it once, right? Have an idea of what's going on in your body once gives you a ton of information. I offer a lot of our patients to wear different glucose monitors, even if they're not on diabetes. And all my physicians who are listening to this are probably like, "You do what?" But the reason is, if you can figure out that your glucose and insulin are high before you develop diabetes or pre-diabetes, if you figured out that insulin-resistant stage, that's a lot easier to fix, and our doctors aren't even taught about what is insulin resistance, what is the criteria for it, and how do we reverse it?Lesley Logan 29:47  Right, because there's some prevention we can do if we have information.Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 29:50  There's a ton, and it's things women can do in their homes or their businesses. It's not stuff I'm doing in the exam room.Lesley Logan 29:56  Yeah, and that's also, you know, you're listening to this podcast, you're kind of a go. Anyway, so you're gonna, you'll take the action. Our health insurance is very bizarre. I thought it was crap because, but it has a lot of preventative stuff that goes on with it. Hey, we want to put this thing in your house and check your heart and some other levels every, I don't know, two or three times a week. They keep calling them. I have two adults. We have two ADHD adults in this household. The box is here. One of us will open it when it becomes the pressure. I just have to hang tight. We'll get there. But I'm really impressed by that because we don't have access to a regular doctor. So what information can we gather so we could be watching it and monitoring it? So we can advocate for ourselves if something comes up. So having that prevention is really amazing. Okay, so we talked a little bit about the perimenopause and the different things. What are some simple shifts that women can make now to protect their future? I mean, obviously we have a wide range of women, so the now is different. But what are some things that they could be doing? Because I do think that they are getting information from the magazines and the Instagrams, and we should get it from the person who's experienced it and has seen it. You know, so you.Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 31:00  Some easy things, and I say easy relative because they're easy to do, which means they're easy not to do. So acknowledging that, right? It's real. Number one, understanding that just because you get eight hours of sleep, if they're not high-quality hours, you've got a metabolic risk from your sleep not being normal. That's important to understand because you spend a third of your life asleep, right?Lesley Logan 31:19  What's a metabolic risk? Just in case my people. So.Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 31:22  If you don't get good-quality sleep, your cortisol goes up. It's one of your stress hormones, and when cortisol goes up, glucose goes up. When glucose goes up, insulin goes up. Insulin's your fat-storing hormone. So even without your sex hormones being involved, or the ghrelin and leptin you're hearing about with weight and GLPs and all that, just those, you're not getting good sleep. It's going to be a problem. Insulin resistance is going to go up. Insulin resistance means your cells are not listening to the insulin your body is giving it, so your body works harder to get more insulin, and the cells work harder to ignore it, and it just keeps going in a vicious cycle. So if we consider that that's the root cause of a lot of these problems we've been talking about, we fix that. Number one is get good sleep, get good-quality sleep, and it's not, not just enough time in bed.Lesley Logan 32:02  Yeah, so.Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 32:03  That's important. Number two is most people don't realize that they're doing it backwards. They're, if they're, if they're even able to get exercise in their life right now, right? So we're going to make the assumption that you figured out some exercise regimen you like. We're, we're at that level, but they're doing it at the wrong time, and they're doing it in a way that they're sabotaging their end result. So rather than going to the gym and then going and eating dinner, or going to the gym first thing in the morning and skipping breakfast and all these things, you need to eat protein and fat, and then you need to move your thighs. I don't care if that's jumping jacks, going for a walk, running up the stairs, something where your thighs are moving regularly for 10 minutes. So make it whatever you like doing. This can be the mom at home who's doing all sorts of fun class activity with her kid, right? Like moving the baby around or the teenager can be equally fun to move around for what it's worth. And then it could be the CEO who's getting ready for a meeting and has 10 minutes after eating whatever lunch she had in the five-minute break she did, right? So looking at what makes sense in your life, but 10 minutes of physical activity, ideally after every meal, that's not realistic, but that's ideal. And then you start with the one meal a day you can do, and you do it most days of the week to start with, because most of us have to figure out how to make it a habit.Lesley Logan 33:15  Yeah.Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 33:15  But movement for 10 minutes after eating, it's, it's crucial. I cannot stress that enough.Lesley Logan 33:20  I didn't realize it was. It makes total sense moving your body after eating because I like to go for a walk after I have lunch. Otherwise, I'm tired. Correct. I can't go back to work now. Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 33:30  The reason you're tired though is because your glucose goes up and your insulin went up to match it. When you walk right after you eat, glucose still goes up, but it's less, and so you have less insulin spike. Insulin is the bright driver here, and so you've got to do the movement after. And if it helps to understand why, think back to what our ancestors did 1000 years ago. Right? We weren't checking hormones. We weren't checking insulin. We weren't talking about hacks. We were trying to survive most of the time. Yeah. But the things they did is they, if they, what, after they ate, they moved around. Right? Like they were building their shelters. They were taking care of the kids. They were moving in the community, helping build, create, relocate, whatever. They were always moving, and they did not get the whole three square meals a day. That's bogus. You don't need three meals a day, okay? And most of my ladies don't realize that they're eating their nutrients potentially in the wrong order for their body. That they're eating them in the wrong time for the cycle of the month they're in, they're not getting enough protein, not getting enough fat for their hormones and their brain, and it doesn't happen quickly, right? It's months, years, maybe even a couple decades before they're, I don't know what happened, but my body in the mirror is not the body in my head. This is not who I am. There's a disconnect, and they finally are at that place where they have to do something, where the body is forcing them to stop because they've pushed it as hot as you know.Lesley Logan 34:44  Oh my God, that's a whole episode. We're having you back. I'm just telling you right now because I want to have a whole episode on the whole. Because what I do know is if you eat certain things, if you work out too late, if you get your cortisol up, sleep that. I have been trying to figure out sleep for over a decade, and I, I get good-quality sleep most of the time. But I'm obsessed with it because I'm like, I don't want Alzheimer's. I do not want heart problems. It doesn't really matter what I'm doing at the gym if I'm not sleeping. None of that matters. Doesn't matter what you're, If you don't get good sleep, all the rest is gonna just fall apart anyways. So it's interesting. It makes sense about the food because I remember when I was having problems with my cycle and I had my one of my doctor friends, she said you should try seed cycling because I just, the worst cramps and, like, the worst everything was just the worst in the world, and so I tried seed cycling and my goodness, you know, I'm not a woo-woo girl, but the seed cycling makes, I got, I had no more zits, my boobs didn't hurt as bad, everything leveled out, and I didn't need any extra hormones for it. I was, whoa, so now there must be more. We need to know about it. So we'll have to have you back for that. I can talk to you forever. So we'll just, this is part one of many. I'm just going to take a brief break and then find out if people can find you, follow you, and work with you. All right, Dr. Amy Loden, where do you hang out? You mentioned St. Louis. Can people work with you if they're not in St. Louis? How does this work?Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 36:03  Yes, absolutely. Best way to get into contact with our office is just going to our website, www.vitalitymwc.org. They can sign up for a consultation, and we can go through what their options are. There is also lots of opportunity if you don't want to work with us directly, but you want to continue the conversation and hear what we're seeing. I do all the social media I can so that people can hear what's being said in their exam rooms and have it in their real lives too. So you can do that on follow me at Dr. Amy Tiffany, whether it's on Instagram or TikTok or Facebook. You find it where they're also on LinkedIn at Dr. Amy Loden. So lots of places depends on what their needs are. One special offer I do have for your audience: we talked about pregnancy and perimenopausal bit through this conversation, they can contact my office for a free physical copy of my book, The Postpartum Pivot. And before you stop listening, ladies, and you think, "Well, I'm not postpartum." If you've had a baby, you're postpartum even it's 20 years ago. Your body's different than it was before that baby, and so you can understand what does this look like for perimenopause and other types of areas that we go through as we grow less young, but grow more wise.Lesley Logan 37:03  Oh my God! Every one of my female females, that's where your Christmas present is. Sorry, just gonna get a doctor because they don't. It's, if their doctor doesn't tell them, they don't know, right? And then they are just going through it. And I feel so bad because every woman in my life is such a badass, and then they get their body doesn't keep up with what they're wanting to do in life, and then it just becomes not just like a liability, but like this hangup. So you are amazing. Okay, you've given us some great stuff already. I mean, we're gonna have to rewind, and I'll listen to this. I've got, you know, getting my notepad out, but our bold, executable, intrinsic, or targeted steps people can take to be it till they see it. What do you have for us?Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 37:37  I want each one. When you be it as you see it, I want you to be true to what your body's telling you, and recognize nothing's gone wrong. Listen when things are happening and they seem like it's a crisis. Nothing's gone wrong. Your body's talking to you. Listen, and when you listen, you become more wise. You become a better version of yourself.Lesley Logan 37:55  Okay, I really love that. We talked about that earlier, but it's true. Some of us think our body is against us, and it's doing something to us. But really, it's like, hello. The alarm bells. Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 38:05  It's doing exactly what it should do for the situation we've put it in. That doesn't mean we like it. You get diabetes. No one's like, oh yeah, my body did exactly what it's supposed to do. But if we understand that, then it becomes a neutral thought. It's not bad or wrong. It's I didn't listen, so now I'm going to stop, and the best place to reverse is as soon as you realize you're going in the direction. Right? It's not to keep going in the wrong direction. So nothing has gone wrong. We just need to listen. We need to turn around, create a better story.Lesley Logan 38:33  Love it. Love it. This is and then so enlightening. This is so fun. Thank you so much for being you and your and and the journey that you've been on is something we can all benefit from. So thank you for that, you guys. We all need to share this episode with all the women in our lives, and I would love for you to make sure that Dr. Amy knows your favorite takeaways. Send them to the Be It Pod as well. And since I'm going to have her back, not that I even like asked her beforehand, but I'm just going to tell her she's doing that. You can send your questions, and we'll make sure we get that. So, beitpod.com/questions. Until next time, my loves, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 39:03  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 39:45  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 39:50  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 39:54  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 40:02  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 40:05  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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Lesley Logan celebrates opening applications for her upLift teacher training program, and explains what it takes to trust other educators with a curriculum she built herself. She also admits the new puppy is beating her alarm every single morning, and makes the case that a listener crossing an eye exam off her to-do list counts just as much as a big win.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co .And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:A candid rant about Darla the puppy who beats every alarm.The teacher training milestone Lesley kept quiet about all year long.Why applications open only to graduates of the eLevate program.Which upLift or eLevate pathway fits where you are now.This week's mantra for gracefully embracing imperfections.Episode References/Links:OPC membership – https://opc.me/40Online Pilates Classes – https://onlinepilatesclasses.comupLift - xxll.co/uwseLevate - https://lesleylogan.co/elevate@jennvfitness – https://www.instagram.com/jennvfitnessSubmit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsIf you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentCheck out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentBe in the know with all the workshops at OPC https://workshops.onlinepilatesclasses.com/lp-workshop-waitlistBe It Till You See It Podcast Survey https://pod.lesleylogan.co/be-it-podcasts-surveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates Mentorship https://lesleylogan.co/elevate/FREE Ditching Busy Webinar https://ditchingbusy.com/Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gLesley Logan website https://lesleylogan.co/Be It Till You See It Podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjogqXLnfyhS5VlU4rdzlnQProfitable Pilates https://profitablepilates.com/about/Follow Us on Social Media:Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lesley.logan/The Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gFacebook https://www.facebook.com/llogan.pilatesLinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesley-logan/The OPC YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@OnlinePilatesClasses Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  It's Fuck Yeah Friday. Brad Crowell 0:01  Fuck yeah! Lesley Logan 0:02  Get ready for some wins. Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:48  Hello, Be It babe. Happy Fuck Yeah Friday! Welcome to our quick-and-dirty episode of the week. We've had a lot of people ask how they can support our podcast, and I just want to say, if you want to support this podcast, please become an OPC member. That is how you can support this podcast. Yeah, because when you're an OPC member, then one, I know that you're actually doing something for you, and you're getting your cup filled, and you're getting a community, and you're getting accountability, and that's how this podcast gets paid for. So, thanks so much. That's how you can do it. So go to opc.me/40 to become an OPC member, or just go to onlinepilatesclasses.com. You don't want to be a member? Get our flashcards, get our posters, tell people about us, watch our videos. Means the world to us, right? If you're like, I don't even do Pilates, I just like this podcast. Hi, welcome. I'm glad you're here. Leave a review, share with a friend. There's lots of things you can do that are free that support small businesses. So thanks for doing all of that, and thanks for even asking. Lesley Logan 1:41  So today's episode is a little rant, my win, a win of yours, a mantra, and we are on our way for the weekend. So at the time that I'm recording this, this is my rant. This rant hopefully is outdated by the time you hear this. I am recording this before I leave for tour, but my rant is that my lovely Darla, my beautiful, cute Darla, my sweet, sweet Darla. Darla's our new dog. In case we didn't announce that here, she wakes me up at night. She does. I thought she'd sleep for the night. She does not, and no, she does not. She actually, she knows my alarm's going to go off in 10 minutes, and then she sets it off before you send in. Like, oh yeah, they have a good internal clock. I was going to tell you right now. I get up at different times. I get to 4:45 some mornings, 5:15 some mornings, 5:30 at the latest. But still, somehow she always beats it. She does, and she is a big girl. So when she gets in the bed, you feel it, and then she takes up all the space. So I'm just gonna say, it's a good thing she's pretty, she's beautiful, she's really sweet. I know this too shall pass, but that perimenopausal ADHD trying to get sleep. Both those two things combined with a puppy. I'm feeling it. I'm feeling it. But my win is something you guys have been hearing about all year, actually. So throughout this year, I've had different wins where I was being kind of secretive about the project I was working on, and recently I got to announce what the project was. I have a teacher training program for new teachers or partially trained teachers, and I'm really, really stoked about the response people have and how people are excited about it and all that stuff. And we're at the date now; it's filling. There's so much to do when you take on a beast of this size; it's just so much to do. But the thing that I'm the most excited, nervous, anxious about is I've opened up the applications for our educators in the next few days. If it's not now, because I know I just I'll have done the coaching, the group call, the Q&A call, and all that stuff, and so we'll open up the applications. And so this only people can apply are people who did eLevate, so that I know who I'm approving to teach. I know how they are. I know their personalities.Lesley Logan 3:41  I know all of it. I know the journey. I know how they approach challenging situations. I want to make sure, you know, I you can't control everybody or everything, but I want to make sure that I can confidently say I know the person who is about to teach you. And so this is the next big step in the upLift teacher training coming to fruition, right? I have to have educators first. So my win is we've opened up applications, and so the next step is I just get to start approving people and talking with people. And the next time you hear wins will be about who I've accepted and the training program they're going to be going through because I have to train them on how to deliver the curriculum that I created. But you know, just to be at this stage in the process is awesome. It just feels, okay, it's becoming more and more real. It's not just me because I've never wanted this program to be about just me. It is my thesis. It is my theories. It is my values. But it is bigger than me. You know, it's bigger than the educators who will teach it too. It's just really about the students and the people that they're going to impact, and so I'm super, super excited about it, and just I'm just blessed. Lesley Logan 4:47  So, if you are wanting to have more information about upLift, you are someone who's interested in being a Pilates instructor, or you are partially trained instructor, you can get on the waitlist at xxll.co/uws, it's xxll.co/uws. If you are a comprehensively trained teacher and you want to study with me, then you want eLevate. But if you don't want to wait till 2028 or beyond, you can actually bridge with one of my educators through upLift. So it's my stuff, just with somebody else. So it just depends on your desire. If you want to be an educator of upLift, then you want eLevate. If you just want to go through it because you want a bridge, then you can go through upLift. You don't have to wait. You can go to a local educator near you. Okay, that's great. That's I'm excited. Lesley Logan 5:32  Okay, this is the part where I show you when, I was about to just give you a mantra and go on, but hello, Lesley, get it together. This is from @jennvfitness. I got both a haircut and eye exam done off my to-do list this week. Good for you. I had LASIK 13 years ago, so I'm just so grateful that I'm out of the eye exam stage. I'm sure it's going to come back into my life, but for right now, I'm doing pretty good. But I remember having that on my to-do list and having that and a haircut in the same week. Way to slay. So thank you. See, wins can be as simple as getting your eye exam done. You guys, it don't have to be a huge project, but honestly, wins can be super, super small. Wins can be that you actually just went to bed the time you said you were going to be, and from ADHD, people going to bed the time you said you were going to go to bed was massive win. It's like you should get an award for it.Lesley Logan 6:17  So, anyways, I'm so grateful for you. Thank you for listening to the Be It Pod podcast, please leave a review or share your favorite episode with a friend. And here is your mantra: I embrace my imperfections with grace. Well, we should say that a few times. I embrace my imperfections with grace. I embrace my imperfections with grace. That is a lot of rhyming. I'm really grateful that we did that together. And you guys, until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 6:45  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 7:28  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 7:33  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 7:38  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 7:45  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 7:48  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. 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Lesley Logan continues her two-part series on slowing down, because the detours and side quests that feel unproductive are often what a goal actually needs. She explains how boredom becomes fertile ground for the idea you have been chasing, and why rushing toward something builds pressure rather than the confidence it takes to get there. She also shares what leaving room in a suitcase before Paris taught her about leaving room in a schedule.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Why side quests often teach the exact skills you need later on.The reason boredom is where your creative ideas actually come from.What one curious detour in Sedona turned into for Lesley.The problem with a schedule packed too tight for surprise.The one unproductive hour challenge for you to try this week.Episode References/Links:Ep 682 Intuition Series Part 1 - https://beitpod.com/ep682Ep 683 Intuition Series Part 2 - https://beitpod.com/683Ep 691 ft Clare Solly - https://beitpod.com/ep691Ep 568 ft Anthony Benenati - https://beitpod.com/ep568Fourth Wing by Rebecca Yarros - https://rebeccayarros.com/fourthwingThe Artist's Way Book by Julia Cameron - https://a.co/d/0iZge5DzSubmit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questions If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentCheck out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentBe in the know with all the workshops at OPC https://workshops.onlinepilatesclasses.com/lp-workshop-waitlistBe It Till You See It Podcast Survey https://pod.lesleylogan.co/be-it-podcasts-surveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates Mentorship https://lesleylogan.co/elevate/FREE Ditching Busy Webinar https://ditchingbusy.com/Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gLesley Logan website https://lesleylogan.co/Be It Till You See It Podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjogqXLnfyhS5VlU4rdzlnQProfitable Pilates https://profitablepilates.com/about/Follow Us on Social Media:Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lesley.logan/The Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gFacebook https://www.facebook.com/llogan.pilatesLinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesley-logan/The OPC YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@OnlinePilatesClasses Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  When we create space, we create room for confidence. So, if you are on a sprint, you're sprinting. You can only see what's in front of you, but when you slow down, you can actually take in what's in front of you into the sides of you.Lesley Logan 0:15  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:58  All right, my Be It babe, my high-achieving women, my recovering perfectionists and overachievers. Hi, how are you? Welcome back to the show. It's episode two in our slowing-down series. If you missed episode one, you should listen to it, or you could just skip ahead and then realize that that's a sign you probably should slow down. I promise they're not long. I promise. So our solo episodes are on topics that you are having questions about. You're sending into the Be It Pod, and you are wondering, needing help on that. We've had some really great guests on the show. We'll continue to have amazing guests, but sometimes we just need a 20-minute-ish chat about a topic, right? Where we can just go, oh yeah, that's that thing, right? Just like a nugget of reminding, and also to know you're not alone because hello, I see you, I see you. As a recovering perfectionist overachiever, I felt like everything, I remember feeling everything I did had to be productive of some kind. So, if I was going to listen to a podcast, it needed to be a business podcast or a self-development podcast of some kind. If I had to read a book, it had to be like that. It had to help me move the needle forward. If I was to go for a walk, I would always listen to something that would move the needle forward for sure. I'm not going to listen to just. I'm not going to just listen to the outside noise. Any space that I had in my life, I go, oh, now I can go work on that project that I've been willing to move the needle forward on. There was not just doing nothing. Lesley Logan 2:18  A lot of dinners that I would do when I lived in L.A. Like they had to always, they were always networking dinners of some kind. When I moved to Vegas, and I took during the pandemic, so obviously in the pandemic, we all lost a lot. But I recognized that when I moved to Las Vegas, I was like, "Wow, if I'm not traveling for work, I don't see any friends. And now that we're months into this pandemic, those same people are not calling. So, did I have friends or just have a network?" Right? I also know that I'm in a decade where I have spent several decades working and working on moving the needle forward. And I don't have kids, but many of you do. And I've had business. I've had worked jobs while also running my own business on the side and trying to date at the time. All those different things. But some of you, you have business and kids and your partner and aging parents. And so honestly, if anyone were to ask you right now, what you want next or what sounds fun to you, if you draw a total blank, you're not alone. Actually, it was in 2020. I was talking with my therapist. I was like, "I don't have a hobby. I don't have anything. I just do for the fuck of it. For fun. I'm just like, what do you want to do?" I was, I don't know. And that's why I went hobby hunting.Lesley Logan 3:39  And if you've been with the podcast long enough, you know that I, it took me a long time, but we get so busy, we have no inner voice that we listen to that says anything nice. We're not able to listen to our intuition. Go listen to intuition series if you need that help. We are often just listening to the judgey voice in our head that's like, "You are not doing enough. You should be doing more. How silly of you to think that you should sit there and just watch a show or learn to row, all that stuff." So, I want us to dismantle that trap today. So, I'm happy you're here. Thanks for being here. I want to talk about why being as curious as possible is actually not going to derail your goals. That the side quests that it will take you on are actually often what you need to learn a skill, or to have a moment of freedom in your brain, so that the idea that you've been trying to figure out how am I going to do that comes to you, or so that you have time with friends to just be yourself and have joy, right, and not have something productive happening. So, I remember when I was in college, I saw these shoes we were selling at my store, and they were hand-painted. And my girlfriend and I were like, "We can. I don't want hand-painted ones. I want. I want to decoupage some." So we decoupaged some shoes. And then when we did that, our bosses were like, "You made those?" We're like, "Yeah. Do you want to make more?" And so then we made them to sell them. And by the way, every dime we made, we reinvested back into the business. And we learned the hard way to have a resale license and to have a wholesale license and to sell and to have a business, there's taxes and others, accountant, all this different stuff, but what happened is a side quest back in college with my best friend Clare, who's been on the podcast, us doing that, it really actually showed me all the different parts I would need to have when I start my own business. So even though it wasn't, it didn't make money. It one, gave me a really cool story. I used to make shoes, and by the way, the shoe company that we used to decoupage, they actually ended up knocking us off, and that's what killed our business. But at any rate, totally fine. We needed to get out of it, anyways. But because of that, it wasn't scary for me to start a Pilates business, right? Lesley Logan 5:55  And so, when we think about little detours or side quests or pauses, often they're exactly what we need to gain a skill that will even not in the same thing. I'm not in the shoe business, but it will translate, right? I see this all the time in video games. There's these little side quests, and they often teach you a different way of using your character, and then there's different ways to get different gems or power-ups or things like that, and then you go back to the regular game, and now you have more skills, right? And so, side quests may not feel very productive, or there might not be an ROI that is measurable. But what they often give you is a boost in confidence, some self-trust, some self-knowing. I also just got to spend time with my best friend. When you're in college and you have a job, that's really hard to do. It's really hard to do. So when you go on a detour, you're giving your brain room to breathe, and that's what we need. Because often what happens is we just fill that space with stuff in our phone, schedules, social media. What's going on? What am I missing out on? Oh, I got to check that. Oh, I got to check with that person. And it's just a rush, and our dopamine brain need is being switched to cortisol injections, and they feel the same, but they are not. So even though my story is about making shoes, it was about getting bored.Lesley Logan 7:18  I do want to say that we need to talk about getting bored. Most of us listening to this podcast right now, remember a time where, as a kid, we got bored. Like we would say, "I'm bored," right? And let's talk to my yoga teacher, who's been on this podcast, Anthony Benenati. His kids, when they say they're bored, he's like, "Yes, congrats! This is a great place to be. This is where creativity comes from," right. So few kids are truly ever bored long enough to get creative because most of the time, when someone says, "Here's the kid's bored," they give them an iPad or something to do or some food. But boredom is the fertile ground of creativity that you have been looking for. That idea, that frustrating thing. Why can't I make this work? What do I need to do? When I am allowing my brain to just wander and follow? Oh, what if I did that? Wouldn't it be cool? We had episode one. Wouldn't it be cool if I did this? What could be better than this? Right? When you let your brain go on that path, you often come up with some brilliant stuff that you could never do in your stressed-out, rushing state. So, as I mentioned, side quests again, video game tip thing, right? Lesley Logan 8:28  Let's look at that example from when you're my recovering perfectionist overachievers. We need to make our time that we do spend reading that business book or listening to educational podcasts, and what if we just swapped one of those things for something that had nothing to do with that? Brad and I stopped listening to political podcasts in exchange for the Fourth Wing series, right? And now that that series is gone, someone just gave us another book recommendation, and I am so excited to go through that because the reality is having something at the end of the day, one, to look forward to because I'm, I can't wait to get lost in that book, and two, that has nothing to do with anything that matters allows us to just put our brain into a place that can actually get some good sleep, right? So look, you don't have to be, a book, doesn't have to be a podcast. Maybe it is a hobby. Maybe you, my girlfriend, she is going into bedazzle mode, right? She is, I'm bedazzling this, I'm bedazzling that because it's fun. It has zero to do with what her job is, zero to do what her house needs, and it allows her to just have something that lets her brain just take a moment, be on a side quest, right? And you'd be surprised how that downregulates the nervous system in a way that takes your stress levels down. I mean, many of us need to be literally thinking about our stress levels, not just for perimenopause, but for our heart, right? For our sleep. If you are not getting good sleep, oh my God, you need a side quest. You need a side quest. Right? Lesley Logan 10:00  I've talked a lot about curiosity. I talk a lot about this when it comes to teaching Pilates, but I really want to suggest that you take a kid-like approach to things. Get curious. Put question marks on things. Right? Too often we're like, I need a five-year plan on this thing that I'm doing. You just need to go, what happens if I do this? Right. We have, ladies, we've spent so much time taking care of so many people. We've often forgotten how to be curious, how to kind of flirt with our future selves. I wonder what I would look like in that style of jean that's out. Instead of going, oh, it'll never look good on me. Like I really thought I'm, I hate that the low-rise is back, but then I kept getting ads for these low-rise wide-leg pants, and I was, I don't know. So then after 72 ads, I was fuck it. I'm just gonna buy it. And honestly, with the long oversized shirts, the outfit looks so chic. It looks so good. It looks. It's also so comfortable, and that takes. But that takes curiosity. I wonder what I would look like in that. I wonder where I would wear that to. I wonder what would happen if I put these shoes on instead of these shoes.Lesley Logan 11:06  We get so used to being in our this is my usual, this is how I do things that we forget that there's this fun thing about being curious and trying things out, and often leads to other ideas and other adventures and other opportunities. When we're on tour, there's often some days we have time, and Brad and I will just pull off to a vintage shop and just walk inside, cause it's fun. We don't even buy anything; it's just fun to go in. Actually, curiosity led my girlfriend and I, we're in Sedona, there's this one more place I want us to go to, and it led us into a sound bath store, sound bowl store, right? And then we were, oh, okay. How much are these things? $15,000. Whoa, didn't expect that. But we ended up going to a sound bath. We got to enjoy a sound bath with bowls that collectively cost $105,000. I'm gonna tell you right now, I felt every dollar of that sound bath in my body, all because we're curious about what's in this store over here. I actually was we're looking for a different store completely. There is magic in detours, and some of your best ideas are gonna be in spaces you didn't plan for. And I'm telling you, that is so fricking true. Some of my best ideas have come from just thinking. Well, what if I did that? How would that fit the plan? I wonder. And then just following it in my brain, right? But that requires having pause time because I cannot let my brain follow a thought or a nugget if I'm rushed up against a deadline. Right? It's not going to work. So now that we know, I hope I sold you on curiosity. Lesley Logan 12:44  When we create space, we create room for confidence. So if you are on a sprint, you're sprinting. You can only see what's in front of you, but when you slow down, you can actually take in what's in front of you into the sides of you. Right? When you go for just a stroll, and so I'm often rushing to get to the gym. And the other day I decided to walk alongside my dad, and I was like, "Has that bar always gone in a full U? I thought it went up against the wall." And my dad looked at him. He was like, "Huh," right? We were just like, "Oh my god, there is space to be curious and see something different because we're not rushing. So the same goes for if you are wanting to take action towards what the the be it till you see it that you're working towards. If you are rushing towards that, you are only able to see what's in front of you. And one, by the way, that doesn't actually create confidence; it creates stress and pressure. But if you actually take a stroll, it allows you to take in all of your surroundings, and you actually have a sense of calmness around you. Think about when we feel safe in a space; it's because we can we know everything that's in it. We can see everything that's going on. We can take it all in, right? You will have more confidence because you know what is what's going on? What's over there? Can make better decisions. So being it until you see it, that next version of yourself, it requires space for magic and coincidence and possibility to enter. You cannot manifest a new reality if you are scheduled is packed tighter than my suitcase in for a month in Europe. Right? There is no room for surprise. You won't even look for surprise. So when we were traveling to Europe, I'll just bring my suitcase back into this. We were traveling to Europe. We were so excited because we had a bunch of flashcards we were getting rid of, and so we were gonna have space to get something fabulous from a vintage shop in Europe. And because we had the space, we went out seeking. We went to 20 vintage shops in Paris in one day. It was so much fun. I got the coolest jacket, and I was, oh my god! But I was really hoping for the purse, you know.Lesley Logan 14:48  But Brad found these great shoes, and we could, if we had packed everything so tight that there could be nothing new added to it. We would not have explored as much of Paris as we did. There would be no room for curiosity because there'd be no room for if we found anything. That goes for your life too. If you pack your schedule so tight, you don't even want a detour, even if it would take you exactly where you're wanting to go, because you don't have room to get lost. You can't trust that getting lost could take you exactly to the right place, right?Lesley Logan 15:20  So, what does this mean for you? What do we need to do next? Now that we've sold you on curiosity, we sold you on creating space, so you have confidence and room to be it till you see it. What do you need to do? What we need to do is play more, have more unproductive time, have time to be curious. Maybe you take walks without your podcast on, or before you turn your podcast on, maybe you look for, we had a guest who said, "Look for three miracles," right? Maybe you don't just go to a coffee shop to work, but you just go to a coffee shop to sit and read a book that has zero impact on your life, right? Maybe you do paint. Maybe you'll learn a skill that you has nothing to do with the career that you're on, but it's just fun. If that feels overwhelming, then I just want you to have one unproductive hour this week, just one. No cleaning, no working, no social media, so no phone. If you've ever read The Artist's Way, you go on an artist date, so you go do something that you have always thought about doing. Maybe there's a bookstore in town you've always wanted to go to, or a coffee shop you've wanted to explore, or someone recommended a salad or a sandwich at this new place that opened up. But you don't, you go and you don't get on your phone when you're there. You just go and you eat. You take yourself on a date, and you see what bubbles up when there's no pressure. I can't wait to hear about it. So please tell us what happened on your magical unproductive hour date by sending it to thebeitpod.com/questions. Maybe that's your win that you're sending in. Like, hey, I had an unproductive hour this week. I did it. I did my. I took myself on an unproductive date. I want to celebrate that with you. And if you know a friend, this could be helpful to please send it to them. Honestly, you sharing this podcast is one of the best things you could ever, ever, ever do. The next best thing would be a member of OPC, and that'd be something that supports you as well. All right, my loves. Until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 17:21  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. 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Lesley Logan opens a two-part series on slowing down, because rushing may feel productive but it rarely gets you where you actually want to go. She explains how constant rushing flips the nervous system into a survival response, and what it really cost her to pause OPC's growth for two years because Profitable Pilates' growth needed her more.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:The real difference between movement and forward momentum.Knowing when a pause is strategic and when it is avoidance.Why you cannot hear your intuition when you are moving too fast.Why rushing makes you say yes to things you would have declined.Setting five-minute buffer gaps between every meeting this week.Episode References/Links:The Big Leap by Gay Hendricks - https://beitpod.com/bigleapEp 400 ft Gay Hendricks - https://beitpod.com/ep400Jay Grimes - https://pilatesology.com/instructor/jay-grimesSubmit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questions If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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I see way too many women using rest or a day off or a spa day as a reward for hard work. Nope, you actually are always worthy of rest, always, all the time, no matter what.Lesley Logan 0:12  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:54  Hello, Be It babe. How are you? Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It podcast. Of course, now I have vocal fry. I was talking just fine a moment ago, but here we are, and that's because we are not perfect around here. Welcome if it's your first time listening to us. Thank you for being here. This week we're going to talk about slowing down and actually how that can speed things up. And I'm just really excited for us to dive into this topic. We are doing these topics because you asked for them. So beitpod.com/questions is where you send your wins in for us to chat about and celebrate you on Fridays, but your topics, your guest requests, things like that those are all things that I look at and determine for who we invite on the pod and what these little series are for. And I love hearing how they help you. I also just want to say I really appreciate when you share our podcast. It means the world to me. It really, really does. Brightens my day every time I hear about it. So just know that I appreciate even just texting this to a friend who needs to hear it. You know, we can't Be It Till We See It alone. This is not how it works. So we have two episodes on this topic about slowing down, and the overall message, the too-long-didn't-listen, is that how it actually speeds things up. And I am someone who wants to move a mile a minute, so this is definitely a Be It Till You See It. For me, it's something I'm constantly practicing. I'm constantly having to be reminded. I'm recording this in June. You're hearing it in August, and I was telling the team an hour ago we have to get moving on that because the launch date for that is October 1st. Lesley, it is the end of June. There is plenty of time. Is there though? But really, really. So if you have ever spent an entire day going from one task to the other? Just you feel like a hummingbird, but then you get to 5 p.m. and you look at your to-do list and you actually did everything but what you wanted to do. Yeah, you don't only end the day exhausted, end the day stressed out because you did all this stuff, but you didn't move the needle forward. And this is something that I see happen when I coach a lot of Pilates studios because people love to make a list. My Pilates studio owners love to make a list. I see this a lot when I coach Pilates studio owners and teachers. They make a long list of things that they want to get done that they need to do, and then they do none of that, right? And then they be like, "I did all these things," or they make a laundry list of things and they do all of them, but they actually didn't move the needle forward because none of those things actually move the needle forward. That was just what Brad calls the whirlwind, just doing the whirlwind, right? And there is a massive difference between getting stuff done, movement of things, and momentum of things. If you ever watch my cousin Benny, there is this scene in this episode where they get stuck in the mud and they're spinning the wheels, right? And so there is movement happening, but they're not getting enough momentum.Lesley Logan 3:22  They're not going anywhere, right? They're stuck in the mud, and so, hi, I see you, and we're just gonna acknowledge that all of us do that, and if we get honest with ourselves, we're gonna break down while just doing movement, just rushing around, checking things off is actually negatively affecting the growth we want to have, and how taking some breaks, some pauses, slowing down shifts us into a gear that can actually create true progress. Right? I remember years and years ago I was with this girl, and she had this whole speech that there's power in the pause. There is power in the pause. Right? Sometimes, just taking a break and getting a 30,000-foot view is what exactly you need. Otherwise, you're just on the hamster wheel. Maybe there's another wheel to get on, right? So I do understand. I want to just say I do understand this idea that if I slow down, I fall behind because I was a runner. So just so you know, professional runner for a long time, and if you do slow down, people do pass you up, right? But that's not how life is. Life is not an actual race because you are your own path. You're doing your own thing, right? And so, I do think at some point in your life there is time to rush and hustle and get as much information as you can. And then there is a time in our life where we really do need to honor the information. Take time to get that, you know. Especially as I am someone over 40, I've really discovered that if I just take a few pauses, if I don't rush from one task to the next, if I, as I said in another series, go for a walk around the block, I actually get some really great ideas. I get to listen to my intuition. I get to hear my inner voice, and it's really helpful. But I also the complete opposite of that is that in my brain, I am 43 years old, and I do want to be retired soon. And I feel like every day is a countdown to that, which is seriously crazy because there, if I were to take how many days between now and when I want to retire, there's probably thousands. So in reality, I could slow down, but I do understand that feeling of that clock ticking, and I think together, Be It babes, we need to reframe that. We need to reframe that pauses as strategic decision-making time and not a weakness, not a laziness, not a procrastination, because there is a difference between a pause and a procrastination, right? So I will say I definitely had to get hit over the head a few times with this idea. Really had to get hit over the head a few times with this idea. It's a lesson that's just taken me a little longer than I like to admit about slowing down. Lesley Logan 5:55  Okay, so I don't know if a lot of you know this, but I started Agency, Profitable Pilates, membership program at the same time that I kind of started OPC, and you know, I thought they're two different things. I could do this. I have the time, and the reality is, is marketing the two, sure, but actually sustainably operating both was not happening, and I was rushing to do it because I thought, "Oh my god, if I don't get this done, some other person's going to take my idea, and I need to get this going." And I also had, I will say, I was loving traveling a lot and really wanting to get rid of some of my clients, so I needed both to take off so that I could let go of some of my regular teaching, so I can enjoy traveling and just run these two businesses. I thought it's just going to happen in three weeks, and it didn't. Of course, it didn't happen. And in fact, it took a little bit longer. And there came to a point where I actually had to pause OPC's growth because Profitable Pilates' growth needed me more.Lesley Logan 6:54  It was taking off, and if I kept trying to split my time evenly, I would have actually caused Profitable Pilates to not grow and to in fact not help the people and not have the impact I wanted to make. And so I had to hit pause on something, and it was really hard. I had to choose between two babies, one of which I love gets really hard. I actually love them both so much, and one of them is more scalable than the other, and one of them can impact more people than the other in different ways, and but I had to do it, and it was so hard because I will say, OPC, those two years of purposely slowing down its growth still is something we are dealing with today. You know, I'm really proud of what we do. We have a great membership. We have a great community, but there was information I didn't get in those two years because I had to slow it down. So I share that with you because I actually don't want you rushing around to feel like you're accomplishing something, only to end up missing out on the information you could be gathering, so you could make better decisions for where you're going to grow, right? For all you're going to do. So that is why you know we have to actually understand when we go into that rush mode that feels like it's productive. We are not operating from a place of not just authenticity but control, right? And so it does feel like everything matters so much because we actually are grasping for control. But when you are actually in charge of how fast you go and the pauses you're going to take and the scenic route you're going to look at or the thing you're going to take a deeper look at, you are in the more control that way. So it's important. So as we talked about in past solo episodes, your nervous system is very much part of this, and if you are constantly rushing, it's not just a time-management issue. It can actually be a survival response, and that survival response actually puts us in that lizard brain where we actually don't see a lot of stuff as being helping hand, right? So our nervous system, when you're constantly rushing, your brain activates a low-grade survival response. Adrenaline makes you hyper-focus on immediate micro-tasks. You check your email, you cross off trivial to-do items while taking you away from seeing the big picture. You cannot see it when you're in this space, right? Lesley Logan 8:59  Another example of being in survival mode is so. I'm sure you don't know this, but I'll tell you. If your head becomes more forward of your spine, right, like you start to be one of those people whose heads are forward, you see those people at their parts. You start to see people coming at you as an attack and not a helping hand. So if you are in this rushing mode, if you're in the survival response in your nervous system, you are actually not seeing people going, "Hey, I'd love to do this with you," or "Let's collaborate with this" as help. You could not receive it like that. You actually see it as someone trying to get something from you, someone trying to slow you down, someone trying to take your thing, and so you actually perceive some helping hands as something that's going to be a negative or an attack on you, right? And so when we go through that, it just actually means we probably definitely not going to go as fast as we want because it's hard to go anywhere fast alone, right? Well, they say if you want to go fast, you go alone. If you want to go far, you go together. But the reality is, is like I actually do think that you can go far and fast with help of others. My Pilates loves, when you rush a movement. You actually never fully get everything out of a movement, right? In order to rush it, something has to let go. So either letting go the connections of muscles, or you're not fully extending your legs and footwork and fully closing the springs. You're kind of just operating in the middle, and that is movement.Lesley Logan 10:43  And so it's like I'm doing something. There might even be a burn, but you're actually not actually getting the full openness of the hips, the full reach through the feet, the full expression of the exercise. Where the benefits are actually, Jay would always say the Pilates happens the last two inches, right? So you got to finish. You got to close. You have to do a full expression. So it's important that we're not just going so fast and using momentum because while it does feel like we are doing something, we are actually not getting the benefits of the something that we are doing. So if you are my constant doer, mover, working all the time, you're likely unable to have clarity in what it is you're doing because you can't find clarity in rush, right? When you are speeding down the freeway, do you see all the signs? No, they're blur. I remember we were doing something, and Brad was going faster than we should, and he missed the exit, and it cost us so many minutes because we missed the exit. If we had just been going at the speed that we were supposed to be going, we wouldn't have, right, and so when you're rushing, you cannot have clarity. You cannot catch the subtle things that are going, "Hey, look it over here," or "What's going on here," or "Maybe this is a turning you have to have." So that mental noise just becomes this level 10, and that intuition, which we talked about in the past solo episodes, the reason why we have a hard time hearing our intuition is we're just moving too fast to even hear it, right? Because it's often like a whisper. It's often there, "Hey, hi." Your intuition's not yelling at you, right? Your intuition's when you're ready. I'm just right here to let you know that that's the right turn I want you to take. And you know, the other thing is, is if you're ending each day exhausted, if you are my listeners who are in my age group or older, ending your day exhausted does not make it easier for you to do the other things you want to do. Doesn't make it easier for you to show up for yourself for your movement practices. It doesn't make it easier for you to sleep well at night. You're causing so much stress and cortisol. It affects how you sleep. It affects how your body is shaped, right? What's going on with how you digest food? All of that. All because we're just rushing, rushing, rushing. So we actually say yes to things that, if we had just taken time to really fully think about, we would have said no to. I find there's two parts because of the ADHD that I have. My brain goes three steps ahead, so it's always a little faster, and I cut people off and I make assumptions. And it's not because I'm a rude asshole; just because my brain's like, "I'm three steps ahead. I know what you're going to say." In other times, my ADHD works in this amazing place where I can just get into focus mode, and I can do a lot in a little bit of time. And the problem with focus modes and ADHD is you never get to plan when they're going to happen. But what I have found is, if I am taking time to pause for the day to make sure I'm aware of what I'm supposed to be working on, I'm aware of where we're trying to go and grow. It allows me to enjoy those focus modes when they happen, and to at least have awareness when I'm actually in a rush state. Oh, I'm trying to rush this right now. I'm trying to push this through. It never feels good, right? It feels like it's harder work to do. Yeah. So what we need, right? Because now that I we're all in the band, I agree. We go okay, so I just need to hit pause. Yeah, but it's first you have to have the courage to hit pause. So first, just having, I think I need to hit pause is a great place to be, right? Because that's your first breakthrough to many breakthroughs.Lesley Logan 13:56  How many times have you had the most amazing ideas when you're in the shower, or you're on a walk, or you're checking out the moon or a sunrise, and all of a sudden you have this thing that hits you, right? Those are pauses, and notice they're not very long. We don't have to pause for five hours. Doesn't have to be a full day off. It could just be a pause. It could just literally the length of a breath, right? Or it could be five minutes, or it can be in between Zoom calls. You always plan for 10 minutes to go from one call to the next to make sure you've wrapped up your thoughts on the last call. Like self-reflection is one of the best ways to retain information from the things that you did. All that brain fog that people talk about, I think a lot of it is actually just rushing so much. I think I do believe that there is brain fog, but I think a lot of it is like we're not giving ourselves enough time between calls to reflect on what would just happen, what we have to do, and where we're going, so that then the next call starts, we could actually be present enough to take it in, right? So rest is also never supposed to be a reward. I see way too many women using rest or a day off or a spa as reward for hard work. Nope. You actually are always worthy of rest, always, all the time, no matter what, because rest is not. "Oh, I'm going to go and hit this rest stop over here on a long drive." Yes, you're new to those things. It's these little moments that happen throughout the day that allow you to feel like you, to feel like you are in charge. If you haven't read The Big Leap, I talk about all the time, but there's a whole chapter on time. There's Einstein time and there's Newtonian time. And if you listen to episode 400, I actually asked Gay Hendricks about this time chapter. And the reality is, is when we are in our genius zone, we are in our flow state. We can bend time, really, truly can. But a lot of us are rushing around and putting ourselves in Newtonian time, and that is not. You actually end up watching the time go by faster. Ever realized like minutes are long when you're holding a plank, but they're fast when you're just sitting on a phone call with your friends. Yeah, right. Because you don't want to be in the plank, but you do want to be on the phone call with your friends. Same thing. You can actually make time be in your control, but you have to hit pause, right? So, what I'd love for you to do over the next couple days before our second episode comes out, which is hopefully some wonderful ways to help you hit pause. I just want you to notice where you can put five-minute buffer gaps. Can you change any of the calls or meetings you have to have an extra five minutes in between? Can you text people? "I need like, hey, we know we have a call tomorrow at 10. I'll be there at 10:05." And in those five minutes, you are not allowed to pick up your phone or check your emails or anything. You get to go to the bathroom if you need a bio break. But I would also love for you just to take a look outside. Maybe go outside. Maybe smell a plant in your house, something that is not on a screen, and notice what feels good and how you feel before you go into your next call. That's your homework. Five-minute gap buffers, as many of them as you can between all of your meetings, and see what you love to do in those five minutes, not where it feels like, "Oh my god, this is the longest five minutes. I have to sit here and look at this wall." No, not that. Something that allows you to just, you almost look forward to it, right? You almost are like, "My god, I can't wait for this call to be over because I get my buffer." Like that's what I want. Lesley Logan 17:00  All right, Be It babe, let me know questions you have. I would love to hear your rushing stories and what maybe you realized in self-reflecting that you missed out on. Here's the thing: the times in my life where I've rushed and missed out on some great opportunities because I just didn't hit pause long enough to think about it. Those things were not for me, right? What is for you will not pass you. But in reflecting on what I could have done differently, it meant that I didn't miss future opportunities, and I get to take advantage of them and use them in the best way. All right, thank you so much for listening to our podcast. Until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 17:49  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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It could be said that Cecil Rhodes quest for hegemony over the diamond industry of South Africa was quickened by rumours of significant gold discoveries in the Transvaal. Others say not, because no-one was aware in these heady days of just how valuable the Motherlode of Main Reef was to become. First a quick note. The easiest way to picture Kimberley in 1886–87 is not as a collection of neatly separated modern mining companies, each with its own mine. It was more like a gigantic underground chessboard, where the four great diamond mines around Kimberley—De Beers, Kimberley, Dutoitspan and Bultfontein—had originally been divided into hundreds of individual claims. A claim was essentially a small piece of ground, and in the early days an individual digger or small partnership could own one or several of them. As the workings became deeper and more dangerous, those little claims were progressively bundled together into larger holdings and companies. By the mid-1880s, therefore, you had companies that owned groups of claims inside a particular mine, while the word "mine" referred to the entire diamond-bearing pipe or working area. So, if you were standing in Kimberley in 1886 and somebody said, "I'm working in the Kimberley Mine," that did not necessarily mean he worked for a company called Kimberley Mine. He might have worked for Kimberley Central, or the French Company, or Standard, or one of the smaller interests that still held claims there. The mine was the physical hole in the ground; the companies were the owners of pieces of that hole. In 1886–87 the whole industry was therefore in the middle of a gigantic transition from hundreds of little claim-holders hacking away independently at the diamond-bearing ground, toward a handful of enormous corporations controlling entire mines. Underground mining was replacing the enormous open pits because the old workings were becoming dangerously deep; companies were sinking shafts and driving tunnels down into the pipes. At the same time, Cecil John Rhodes and Barney Barnato were consolidating ownership above ground. By 1886 Rhodes wasn't powerful enough to overcome other significant owners in Kimberley, although most of the other entrepreneurs believed amalgamation was good for diamonds — no-one wanted to be dominated by Rhodes — or each other. And Rhodes was seeking domination. While the majority of those in Kimberley scrabbled and scratched, the magnates were high on the hog. They frequented the Kimberley Club, launched by 74 well-heeled citizens who pledged 100 pounds each, a double storey structure that impressed as it rose from the flat Griqualand surrounds. Evenings were full of dinners and dances, black tie and evening dress abounded, awash in the blaze of the new electric lights, the first in South Africa, which twinkled inside the homes of the rich, and splashed along the streets. Men and women mingled, thronged and thrusted, the tuxedo dressed elites sat in their plush chairs in the Kimberly club, pressing the electric bells to call waiters who slid effortlessly across the plush velvet pile and Turkish carpets. Most evenings sitting side by side in the lounge were Cecil John Rhodes and his friend and co-shareholder Alfred Beit, sipping on their favourite tipple which was black velvet, a mixture of champaign and stout beer. Suitably fortified, they would dance, but let me hasten to add, not together, Rhodes with the plainest girl apparently while Beit, who was a short man, often sought out the tallest women. A weird vaudeville show and watched by a few sober enough to register irony. Alfred Beit was the key to what happened next because he had already drawn the attention of one of the most powerful capitalists in the world — Nathanial Natty Rothschild of Rothschild's bank in London. Beit wrote a letter of introduction for Rhodes, who sailed off to England where he met Natty Rothschild. The first meeting didn't start well. Rothschild was frosty.

Lesley Logan records from the road in the final days of her tenth tour, keeping her Friday check in honest about the hard parts before the good ones. She names the boundary problem that highly communicative people run into most, then celebrates a milestone that took several years of quiet groundwork to reach. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:The challenges of dealing with people who make their emergencies hers.The internal argument a perfectionist has under deadline pressure.How eLevate teacher training paves the way for the right people.How Heidi made time for her live mat class despite everything.Recognizing that smallest wins actually count the most.Episode References/Links:Lesley on Plymouth Perspectives Podcast - https://beitpod.com/plymouthperspectiveseLevate Mentorship Program - https://lesleylogan.co/elevateupLift - xxll.co/uwsSubmit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questions If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:48  Hello, Be It babe. How are you? Happy Fuck Yeah Friday. Here we are. I am two days from being home, so I have another stop, and then a day off, and then our last stop on the tour. So I am coming at you. Well, I've recorded this early, but somewhere I am in the Arizona area, I feel like, and so we're wrapping up our 10th tour. Oh my God, it's insane! So I'm just so excited to be in your ears today. What was your win? That is what this episode is all about. Also, being real, getting to have a moment and sharing a win. So I hope you enjoy these quick-and-dirty episodes. I hope it helps you kind of be with what's going on because I don't always share on socials, and also I feel like it's weird when people share on socials and expect everyone to have seen it. That doesn't make any sense. It's not all about me. And the reality is, I said this on the Plymouth Perspectives podcast. I'm such a reluctant social media user. Truly, it's part of the thing you have to do to do the thing you want to do in this world, right? Okay. If you are wanting longer episodes, if you're new here, you want to check out our Tuesday and Thursday episodes. Sometimes we do an interview and a recap, and sometimes it's this new thing we're doing this last year, which is solo episodes of me just talking about a topic that you sent in. So send in your wins and your topic requests or guest requests to beitpod.com/questions. Thank you for the requests you've sent in. I will say, I too would love to interview Michelle Obama. That is probably not going to happen until we are a top 0.01% podcast. So keep them coming, keep them coming. I appreciate that you think that I'm that great, though. So if you're in some of my memberships, we have a channel where you get to have a moment, you get to have a little bitch session, and then you have to share a win. So I feel this is a great place where I can actually tell you life is not all rainbows and butterflies, and also have a win, and then share your wins. Lesley Logan 2:31  So my need-a-moment is people who make their emergencies yours. Oh my freaking goodness! I am a very organized-ish person, meaning that I have a whole team that makes sure I get everything done when it's supposed to be done, and they ask me to do it ahead of time so I can procrastinate and all the good things. But recently, I had a lot of different people send emails asking for this thing and this thing from me, and they need this description, need this bio, they need these pictures, and blah blah blah. And first of all, we probably sent it in. Second of all, I appreciate that you need those things. I'm happy to give them to you, but "I need this as soon as possible." Hold on, it's a Friday, you know? Don't you think I'm also catching up on my week? So just people who make their emergencies your emergencies, and I do the best I can.Lesley Logan 3:16  And I also am a highly communicative person, so I find myself feeling really terrible because then I'm, "Hey, I can get this to you on Monday." And, oh my god, what if they need it sooner? Well, then they should have asked sooner. But I have this whole argument. I have this AuDHD. The ADHD has that rejection sensitivity disorder. I'm like, "I need to do it now because they'll never ask me again," right? Which is not true. And then the autistic part: they should have asked earlier. I don't have the time. The conversation I have in my brain when people try to make their emergencies mine, because recovering perfectionist overachiever wants to just get it done when you ask for it, and that's just not how life works. Because then I'll get nothing done.Lesley Logan 3:54  So anyways, that's my moment. But here's my win. So last month, we opened up the doors for round eight of my eLevate program, which is my teacher-training program, which is also the only place where people can become a teacher for UpLift, my new program. It is for comprehensively trained teachers who want to get to know the method, they like the way I teach, they want to study with me. It's a small group of people, right? It's a growing group of alumni, but it's a small group of people when you're in it. And so we opened up the doors in July, and I was just like, "Oh my gosh! I can't believe we're talking 2028. I have dates for 2028." That just overwhelms me. But we had so many people want the spots, and they're so excited. And actually, while they wish they could be in 2027, they're excited about having the time to prepare, prepare their schedule, prepare their budget, all that stuff. And I'm just so pleased because of what eLevate attracts and the women and a few good men that I get to spend time with. I'm just truly grateful. And so I guess the win is just the culmination of the last several years of this program really paving the way for the right people to find it. And round seven literally is wrapping up in the next few weeks, which means that they're going to be in the alumni group by the end of September, and I'm just so stoked for them because they're just epic humans already, and I've just watched them grow and elevate so much. So this feels like a big win instead of having a small win. I mean, I've been on tour. There's probably a lot of small wins, but I haven't recorded them for you yet. So I'm going with a big win this week. Your wins can be quite small. In fact, most wins are. Sometimes, "I got a full night's sleep last night." Right? That's sometimes what the win is. Lesley Logan 5:29  So, in fact, here is a great example of a win that I want you to send in. This is from @heidi.elle.18. Heidi's an OPC member, but she sent this in. She wrote, "Getting in our 45-minute live mat class yesterday." So this is a woman who's got kids, she's got a job, she's on summer break, and she made time for the live OPC class that happened. So I'm so grateful, Heidi, that you showed up. I'm grateful that you recognize it is a win. It is not easy to make time not only for the 45-minute class, but also for the hang time afterwards, and I'm just so grateful. I love seeing your smiling face on that, and also thank you for sending it in so we can inspire people that getting your workout in that you had planned is a win. If you did the thing that you said you wanted to do, that's a massive win. In fact, that's where confidence comes from: doing the thing you said you'd do. So make the things you want to do something you can actually do, right? Don't put so much pressure on yourself. And I recognize that my need-a-moment is the whole debate in my head of not putting pressure on myself. But see? You know what? I'm working on it too, and so can you.Lesley Logan 6:27  All right, your mantra before you take on the weekend is, "I am a beacon of self-love." Oh, I'm a beacon of self-love. I'm a beacon of self-love. Have you ever heard that you have to give what you need in the world? If you're a beacon of self-love, can you imagine all the love you're gonna get? Oh my god! You will. You'll put it out there. It'll come back. It's all that good stuff. So thank you for being here. Thanks for being with our short episodes. Check out our longer-form episodes in the feed that you're listening to this on, and let us know what your takeaways are. We want to hear from you. Until next time, Be It Till You See It.Lesley Logan 6:56  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 7:39  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 7:44  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 7:48  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 7:55  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 7:59  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

In this recap episode, Lesley Logan and Brad Crowell dig into their favorite takeaways from the conversation with Tara Connaghan, a traditional Irish fiddle player from Donegal whose award-winning podcast decodes the unspoken rules of Irish music sessions. They unpack why unfamiliar spaces feel so intimidating to newcomers, the etiquette of joining as a beginner, the three kinds of people every new learner needs.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:The importance of supporting local Black-owned businesses.The etiquette of easing into a group as a beginner.Brad's jazz sessions and what his class taught him about listening.Why daily practice outperforms one long session each week.How filling your cup makes everything else feel easier.Episode References/Links:upLift - xxll.co/uwseLevate Live Q&A - lesleylogan.co/elevateOPC Summer Tour (Powered by Balanced Body) - OPC.me/eventsOPC Flashcards - opc.me/flashcardsPilates on Tour - xxll.co/potNevada SPCA - https://nevadaspca.orgBy Black Business Directory - https://www.byblack.usSession Etiquette Website - https://www.sessionetiquette.comSession Etiquette Retreat - sessionetiquette.com/retreatIn Tune with Tradition Podcast - https://beitpod.com/taraconnaghanpodTara Connaghan IG - https://www.instagram.com/tarafiddleTara Connaghan FB - https://www.facebook.com/tara.connaghanTara Connaghan LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/taraconnaghanTara Connaghan YT - https://beitpod.com/arayoutubeSubmit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questions If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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What's the etiquette? Do I have enough skills to be here? Am I allowed to sit here? Can I sit there? And she explained that you're scared because you just don't know how to enter the space. And I think it's really important to acknowledge that when we're a beginner at things, we're allowed to have some fear, you know?Lesley Logan 0:15  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:58  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap, where my co-host in life, Brad and I are going to dig into the warm convo I have with Tara Connaghan in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to the interview, you can pause this, go listen to that, and then come back to this. You can listen to this, then go back to that. She has an Irish accent.Brad Crowell 1:12  Yes, she does.Lesley Logan 1:13  So sometimes that's fun to listen to.Brad Crowell 1:15  It sure was. She's also a musician. Love that.Lesley Logan 1:18  Yes, yes. And she has a great podcast as well. It's winning awards, even though it's brand new, because it's so niche. It's a niche in a niche. It's kind of amazing, but we'll get into that in a minute. First, today is August 20, 2026, and it's World Mosquito Day because, you know what? Those little fuckers need their own day. Honestly, because you need to be reminded that they suck. But you need to know how bad it is because it's...Brad Crowell 1:39  Literally.Lesley Logan 1:40  Oh, that's so funny! Pun wasn't intended, but I slayed that. So World Mosquito Day unites global health efforts every August 20th commemorating Sir Ronald Ross's 1897 discovery that mosquitoes transmit malaria. Well, thanks, Sir Ronald Ross. Do you think his parents named him Sir Ronald Ross, or he was Ronald Ross, and then they got the "Sir"?Brad Crowell 2:01  He got the "Sir."Lesley Logan 2:01  Oh, okay.Brad Crowell 2:02  Yeah.Lesley Logan 2:02  Well, this crucial day raises awareness about the ongoing threat of mosquito-borne illnesses like dengue, dengue?Brad Crowell 2:09  DengueLesley Logan 2:09  Dengue, Zika. Brad Crowell 2:11  Yeah, it would be normally known as dengue fever.Lesley Logan 2:13  Yeah, dengue fever, Zika, and yeah. Brad Crowell 2:16  Good luck on that one.Lesley Logan 2:20  Chikungunya. I'm reminding.Brad Crowell 2:25  It could be Chikungunya. Chikungunya.Lesley Logan 2:28  I'm not sure. Yeah. Anyways, well, my speech therapy didn't help me with that one. Discover how you can protect yourself, support research, and contribute to eradication initiatives worldwide. You know what you can do? Keep your fucking still water from being still. You guys, stir your pools. Don't let, you know, I listened to an episode of The Daily years ago when it was good, and it talked about how there are these mosquitoes that can live in a capful, you know those plastic water bottles? That size capful of water in a tire across continents. So on a ship that takes months, and then they can just spread. They don't need a lot of water anymore. So you guys have got to move your water around. Do you remember when we lived in LA and there was a big deal about the virus, and we were like at the airport. Everybody was on guard for puddles and drying things up. It was a weird community. It was before COVID, but LA had a community because people were getting... I don't think it was Zika, but there was a virus being carried by the mosquitoes, and it was a reason why even the airport had to clean up their water. They were giving out fines.Brad Crowell 3:31  I can't remember what it was, because Zika is usually in Asia, but it obviously can spread.Lesley Logan 3:37  So obviously, I talk about standing water around your home, but applying an EPA-registered repellent and raising awareness about mosquito-borne diseases is a great way to support the public health initiatives. Isn't it funny if we just start going around. Everybody today, I want you to go around and go, "It's World Mosquito Day. Do you have any standing water? Do you know how to get rid of mosquitoes?" So Vegas was notoriously known for having no mosquitoes, and now we have lots of mosquitoes. We have a whole mosquito problem, and at UNLV, there's a woman who studies the whole thing. But now we have mosquitoes, and it's really annoying because I thought I only got bit by mosquitoes when I was in Cambodia. Now we get bit all the time.Brad Crowell 4:10  It's not even, I mean, honestly, LA was, I felt like I got more mosquitoes in LA than Cambodia, but it depends on the time of year in Cambodia. I think it depends on the season, of course. But there definitely are mosquitoes there. We had a lot more in Thailand than Cambodia.Lesley Logan 4:26  Thailand killed me. Cambodia, I've learned to figure it out. And when you come to our retreat in Cambodia, we tell you what to do so you don't get bit. All right, you guys, what do we got going on? We're on our way back from the tour, actually. So we're probably either in El Paso or on our way to Tucson right now. We're gonna wrap it up in a few days in Las Vegas. And something you need to know, I'm really, really proud of. I started a teacher-training program for new teachers. So if you heard the rumor, it is true, and it's called upLift, and it will start early next year at a studio, hopefully near you. So, in fact, in the next couple weeks, I'll be taking applications from the people who want to license and teach the program, and then this fall, I'll be training them how to do it. Then I'll be working alongside them to make sure that it is done the way I know it will work and change your life and change the lives of the people that you teach. So you should go to xxll.co/uws if you would like to be a student. This is for first-time teachers or partially trained teachers, or maybe people who want to bridge into classical and they want it to be more of an in-person experience. So xxll.co/uws. And then for those who are already comprehensively trained and you want more of a master's program, you can go watch the recent eLevate Live Q&A call I did at lesleylogan.co/elevate. That's L-E-S-L-E-Ylogan.co/elevate. I did a mini class. I answered a ton of questions. We have a bunch of grads on there. We are filling 2028 as we speak, and only people who graduate eLevate can actually teach upLift. So if you are like, "Oh my God, how do I get my application in?" You won't even find out until you have done eLevate. So there you go. All right, you guys, we got a lot going on. Balanced Body sponsored our tour, so we're so excited because we have to take Contrology equipment everywhere, and we're spending a lot of time with them the rest of this year. I'll tell you more about that in a second. But thank you to Balanced Body for sponsoring our summer tour, and they are also sponsoring our winter tour this year, which we will announce next month. So make sure that you're on our email list so you don't miss out because literally on the summer tour, several cities sold out in one day. Brad Crowell 6:27  In one day. Lesley Logan 6:28  In one day.Brad Crowell 6:29  Yeah. So how do you get on the waitlist? Go to OPC.me/events.Lesley Logan 6:33  There you go. Go do that. Okay. So if you're new here, one of the ways you can actually support us is by being an OPC member. But if that's more of a commitment than you want to make, when you buy our amazing flashcards at opc.me/flashcards, not only do you support us and this podcast, but you're also supporting the Nevada SPCA. Just so you know.Brad Crowell 6:49  Yeah, but I just wanted to say before we move on, becoming a member, you can start with a trial. So it's a 40-day trial for 40 bucks, and you pick the trial based on the equipment you have access to, and then you get to come hang in this awesome community we have. We just revamped our community page, the whole community platform. It's really cool and just awesome people. So not only that, you can do it anywhere you are.Lesley Logan 7:15  Yeah, anywhere you are, at any level, with whatever you got. It's pretty great. It is the workout that works for you. That's what we say. So you guys, we're going to be home for a bit, and then we're going to be in Cambodia. You cannot join us this year in Cambodia, but you can certainly join us next year by getting on our waitlist. We will open up our early-bird special in January. If you hear a dog snoring in the background, her name is Darla. We cannot stop this; it's just going to keep going. But before we head to Cambodia, we're actually driving to Sacramento. I'm teaching, and we'll have a booth at the Sacramento POT. It is the Balanced Body 50th-Year Celebration. The ultimate, the penult, the penultimate, the, what do you call it? I mean, they've been celebrating all year long at all the different POTs.Lesley Logan 7:53  No, but anyways, it's at the headquarter area, and it's gonna be so much fun. And then after that, I'll be at the POT India. So I am at all the 50th anniversary POTS. Basically, I'll be aBrad Crowell 8:03  A 50-year celebration is called a golden jubilee or a golden anniversary.Lesley Logan 8:08  The Jubilee. I don't think they know that. I don't think they do either because they could have done a Jubilee instead of a whatever party. Anyways, here we are. So, if you want information about the Sacramento POT or what I'm doing in Goa, India, which, by the way, it looks stunning. I really will just say yes. I said yes because it's going to be at this stunning resort at the beach in Goa, and there's a bunch of Americans who are also going because they're like, "I wanted to take a workshop from you, and I've always wanted to go to India." And I'm like, "Well, see you there." Me too. So xxll.co/pot will get you information on both Sacramento and Goa. I have no idea how to get you information, but I am going to teach in China this year.Brad Crowell 8:44  Woo!Lesley Logan 8:45  This is a big deal.Brad Crowell 8:46  Yeah, just outside of Shanghai.Lesley Logan 8:47  Yeah, I don't even know how I'm getting there yet at the time of this recording. But we're figuring it out, everyone. Basically, here's what's going on. I am doing a lot of traveling with and without Brad this year because next year I'm not, because next year we're focused only on upLift, eLevate, our tours, and so it's quite an exciting time. I haven't said yes to anything for next year, and we're recording this in the summer, which is kind of insane because usually I'm already booked out, but we're not because we're saying, "Not yet, not yet." Anyways, all right, we got to get into this episode, but before that, Brad, what is the awareness that we're bringing people's attention to today?Brad Crowell 9:25  Yeah. So as you know, we switched to charity of the week instead of questions. So today we are doing something slightly different. We encourage you to seek out local businesses in your community to celebrate National Black Business Month. Yeah. So this month, instead of highlighting just one charity, we're focused on the whole month to go out and support your local Black-owned businesses. Why? Back in 1921 in Tulsa, Oklahoma, it was home to one of the wealthiest Black communities in the country, the Greenwood District, known as Black Wall Street. In the span of about 15 years, it had built up hundreds of Black-owned businesses: grocers, theaters, hotels, doctors' offices, over 1000 homes. And then, over a two-day period, white mobs, some of them literally deputized by the city, burned more than 35 city blocks. They burned them to the ground, and as many as 300 people died. Roughly 10,000 were left homeless, and not a single person was ever prosecuted. Yeah, for decades it barely appeared in the history books, and Greenwood residents rebuilt, but the community never got back to where it fully was. Survivors were never compensated. So when we talk about supporting Black-owned businesses today, it's not just a nice idea; it's part of rebuilding something that was deliberately destroyed.Lesley Logan 10:42  It's crazy because I didn't learn about this. I heard about this around 2020.Brad Crowell 10:46  Yeah, I started to hear about this. Actually, there were TV shows that were focused on this in the superhero world, and I started watching it, and I was like, "Whoa, this is crazy! How did I never hear about this?" And then I started to really learn more about it, and it's just tragic. It's just unbelievable. It's unbelievable.Lesley Logan 11:04  Here's the thing: if a hurricane does this, we're in an uproar if the government doesn't go in fast enough and fix things, right? But this was deliberately done. This is not, it's just hate racism. Yeah. And then no one went in and helped any of these people, and so yet again, a group of people were set back even further. So not only did we not do restitution after slavery, when they finally do get ahead, well, let's burn it to the ground and create even more problems. And so it's just really fucking frustrating.Brad Crowell 11:34  There is a, you know, if you're wondering how to go support local Black-owned businesses in your community, there's a great resource that you can use, that is ByBlack.us. It's a national directory built by the U.S. Black Chamber of Commerce. It's searchable by location and even has curated city guides. So wherever you're listening from, you can find Black-owned businesses near you. And if you're local to us in Las Vegas, check out the Greater Las Vegas Black Chamber of Commerce at glvbcc.org, and also the Henderson Black Chamber of Commerce or the local directory called Black Biz Connect Las Vegas.Lesley Logan 12:16  Yeah, and that came up just when we were doing this search, so you can also figure that out by putting your city in. It's just a great thing to do if you want to just be... Here's the deal: we vote with our dollars, and so every single day there are things that we have to do for these fucking billionaires because we can't get away from it. But also, you can do this, and you can make small changes. So it's really important. We recently, at the time of recording this, had donated $800 to the Nevada SPCA, right? And I was like, "Oh, I know it's only $800," and they're like, "It's a lot of money. Thank you so much." It's from your flashcards for quarter two. And I said, "Oh, can I find out what does that do?" And they were able to show me what $800 can do, right? It can feed 114 shelter animals for one week. So when you take your dollars and you put them locally into a locally owned business, you are making major impacts. The ripple effects are things you can't even understand or see. And then when you direct that to being a Black-owned business, you are actually helping. It's just something that's really, really amazing because that means family members and friends of that business owner are seeing that they can be successful as an entrepreneur. If you can't see things happen in your life, it's really hard to be it till you see it. So I just think it's important. I thought it was a great way to honor this month. And so just put your city in and put "Black-owned businesses," and you'll get a list, I'm sure.Brad Crowell 13:33  Yeah, awesome. So thanks for supporting your local Black-owned businesses. And if you have any Black-owned businesses, or actually any charities at all, that you suggest that we do some research on and then bring to the pod, text us at 310-905-5534. 310-905-5534. Stick around. We'll be right back. Brad Crowell 13:54  All right. Well, let's talk about Tara Connaghan. Tara is a traditional Irish fiddle player from Donegal with nearly 40 years of experience playing music. I think she said more than 40 years of experience. In fact, I think she said she's been teaching for 40 years.Lesley Logan 14:10  I mean, she doesn't look that old, so I don't think she could be. I don't think she's in her 60s.Brad Crowell 14:14  Regardless, she's very, very clearly an expert. She's the creator and host of the award-winning podcast, In Tune with Tradition: Perspectives on Session Etiquette and Irish Traditional Music. That is a very niche pod.Lesley Logan 14:29  It's a niche in a niche.Brad Crowell 14:30  It breaks down the unspoken cultural rules of Irish music sessions. She also teaches adults and leads private immersion experiences in Ireland for musicians wanting to dive deeper on session culture. Side note: She actually has a tour coming up in September 2026, so next month. So go to sessionetiquette.com/retreat for details. Pretty sure she said it's happening in Ireland. Lesley Logan 14:55  I think so. And also, by the way, if you don't even know what Irish music is and session etiquette, don't be like, "What is this podcast episode about?" I don't know, because actually everything that we discussed about that can be applied to being a beginner at anything. So I really, really like it.Brad Crowell 15:09  Yeah. Yeah. So.Lesley Logan 15:11  Well, I'll just go first. So I think we can all understand. When you're a beginner, there can be a performance anxiety of sorts. You're not sure if you're wanting to be a knitter. Okay, an example: Andrea Maida and her husband and Brad and I went to a knitting store because Andrea Maida, a dear friend of ours, Pilates instructor, is a knitter. So we go to a knitting store, and there's a whole table of all these knitters, and they're just hanging out. And Andrea's like, "We can just go talk to them." And I'm, "I don't... are we allowed to go talk to them?" And then the first thing someone says, "Are you knit worthy?" Remember that? "Are you knit worthy?" And I was, "I don't know." If I was an aspiring knitter, I can tell you right now that I didn't feel welcome. I felt anxiety. But the other people, "Oh, don't let her get to you. You can sit down here." But I didn't know the etiquette of walking into a knit place. And so, when you are a beginner, there is an anxiety about how do I join? What's the etiquette? Do I have enough skills to be here? Am I allowed to sit here? Can I sit there? And she explained that you're scared because you just don't know how to enter the space. And I think it's really important to acknowledge that when we're beginners at things, we're allowed to have some fear, you know. Brad Crowell 16:15  100%. I mean, it's just natural. It's part of it. It's like getting on stage the first time you're on stage. Your throat is parched. You're completely freaking out inside, but it just takes practice. The more you do it, the less you're in that headspace. Yeah. But also, too.Lesley Logan 16:32  You play jazz, right? You play jazz.Brad Crowell 16:35  I played jazz. It's been a long time.Lesley Logan 16:37  But there are sessions. There's times when people get together to just play, and then there are times people can join in, right?Brad Crowell 16:43  Yes. So I'm going to talk a little bit more about that when I share what I really loved about this conversation. But yes, in the jazz world, it's called a jam session, right? And you hear musicians, "Let's get together and jam." I generally hate a jam session when it's not jazz music, honestly. It was interesting to hear her talk about the different levels of learning and the different layers of how people interact in a jam session. Because when I was younger, when I was studying jazz and I was performing, I play the trombone, for all of you who don't know. I started playing in fourth grade, and I went all the way through college studying very intentionally on the trombone. And I was really good at the time, really, really good. I wasn't ever recording on the trombone because what I was really passionate about was playing the bass and singing. So even though I was really good on the trombone, that wasn't really where my heart was at the time. When I was playing it in college, you'd get together with people, and if they were not that good on their instrument or they hadn't had a lot of experience playing with other people in a space where you're listening to other people, then you don't know what to do. And this is a perfect parallel. Have you ever been in a conversation where someone only talks about themselves?Lesley Logan 18:06  Yeah.Brad Crowell 18:06  The whole fucking time.Lesley Logan 18:08  Yeah.Brad Crowell 18:08  And they never ask a reciprocating question.Lesley Logan 18:11  Yeah.Brad Crowell 18:12  It's not a back-and-forth.Lesley Logan 18:13  Yeah.Brad Crowell 18:14  Yeah. Musicians can do that too. They can just take over.Lesley Logan 18:17  Well, and I think to wrap up my point, what I love is just like she says, once you learn the rules and the etiquette, the anxiety can disappear because you know what the rules are. I think a lot of times some of us are afraid to be beginners, and then we don't ever get to figure out what the rules are, so we never feel like we can be a beginner. But if you know what the rules are, then you know where you can play, right? I think, in a non-musical example, I get people who want to be on this podcast all the time. They're like, "We should do a pod swap." They pitch me. I'm okay. I love the balls. I love that confidence. They have 10 episodes. I have 700. I appreciate the invite, but that's not a mutual thing. I'm bringing so much more expertise. They're not going to have the conversation I want to have with 700 episodes with their 10. Or maybe they have a whole other following. They could back that up. Maybe they're up-and-coming. But really, no offense to them, it's not like they are below, but they actually need to go get experience with other people with 10 episodes, coming over here is not really going to be helpful for them because they don't really, you have to have experience to play. Like in Pilates, I absolutely love taking sessions from people who've been teaching for decades, right? But I'm not going to be, "Oh, you want to do a trade, Jay? Sandy, should we trade?" No. Not that I can't teach them something, but really it's not an equal exchange of information.Brad Crowell 19:37  Yeah, I mean, this rolls straight into one of the things I loved about the conversation. She was talking about the etiquette of joining sessions as a newbie or a beginner. She said it's a very gentle process where you're kind of coming into it in a gentle way, and the anxiety of it and the, you have to be self-aware enough to know that you are easing your way in. For me, the easy parallel is growing up in a large family where I had lots of aunts and uncles and thinking about Thanksgiving dinner or Christmas dinner or something where everyone came over and they had the kids' table and they had the adults, right? And the kids' table, their conversation was generally about kid stuff, but I always ended up gravitating toward the adult table. And when I would get there, I had nothing to contribute to the conversation because I was 12, right? What do I know? I don't know anything about anything. But I'm listening to the adults talk about adult things, which I didn't even know what they were talking about. Didn't matter. I didn't have anything to contribute, so I didn't say anything, right? So when I was mentioning earlier, sometimes people can be in conversations where they 100% dominate the conversation, and it's not a conversation; it's one-sided. Alternatively, the other side of that is never contributing to a conversation and not having the confidence to speak up. And a lot of people never get past that, right? Even imagine if I was 12, then 15, then 18, and I'm still sitting at the adult table, but I'm not talking. I'm not participating in the conversation. I'm still taking it all in, but why am I not contributing back, right? So there's these two sides of the fence there. Lesley Logan 21:19  There's two extremes, and there's allowing yourself to be an observer because you're new to that table, and then at some point, you got to shit or get off the pot.Brad Crowell 21:27  Yeah, that's right. At some point, you actually have to participate. Lesley Logan 21:30  And I think where it happens is there has to be someone at that table who also invites you in. Brad Crowell 21:33  Yeah, maybe. Yeah. Lesley Logan 21:34  Remember the knitting table we started with? That woman who was, "Are you knit worthy?" I was, "I don't think so." I don't think I even replied to her. But then there was, "Oh, come sit down! Don't let her scare you!" Right?Brad Crowell 21:45  That's right.Lesley Logan 21:45  There needs to be someone who is aware of all the dynamics, who can be the guide.Brad Crowell 21:51  Yeah.Lesley Logan 21:51  You know, and so then you attach yourself to the guide, and you allow the guide to show you what's going on, what's the appropriate behavior here. We're watching The Pitt again, you guys. I'm obsessed. I'm obsessed. There's so much nuance to The Pitt. I love it so much. Dynamics, everything, everything. I can apply science of learning to The Pitt. All these different things, right? And that Mel King, bless her soul, her character just speaks in my heart. But she's going to high-five people after they save a guy's life, and no one high-fives her because that's not the etiquette. It's not what you do. It's your first day, babe. You're in their third hour, right? And so she's, "Oh, okay." She sits down. So she's trying to observe what the behavior is and trying to learn how to fit in. And it takes time. You're going to get it wrong. And that's the thing. You are going to fuck up at some point. You are going to think that you're invited in and you're doing the right thing. But actually, they changed the rules last week, and they moved it half an hour. And that doesn't make you a bad person. You just got to have self-awareness, you know, and then also a little gumption.Brad Crowell 22:50  Yeah, and I think, you know, thinking back to etiquette of joining a session as a newbie or beginner, it is valuable to sit at the kids' table when you're a kid so that you can have conversations with your peers, and then you learn something from that so that when you do move to the adults' table, you have some understanding of just how conversation works. So in the same way, with music. Lesley Logan 23:11  I think it's good to outgrow the kids' table because, yes, then you can recognize that you were the guide at the kids' table, and now you're over at the adults' table, so you can spot who the guide is over there. You know, I think it's good to have the experiences.Brad Crowell 23:24  Yeah, and that's definitely how it works with jazz and jamming. It's important to work with people who are, well, I mean, you talked about this specifically with Tara, the people who are where you once were, people who are where you are at now, and the people who are where you want to be, you know, so that you can be a guide, you can have fun with your peers, you can learn from someone who is where you want to be. And so, for example, here in Las Vegas, once a week I go to a local bar. They host a jam night, and it's a jazz jam night, and they encourage people to sit in. Bring your instrument, come play. We'll always welcome you in. You can always play for a tune or whatever. And then generally, what they'll do is they'll let you name the tune so that you have the confidence. "Okay, I know this song."Lesley Logan 24:16  Oh, I love that.Brad Crowell 24:16  You know, and then basically they all know all the songs. These guys are pro musicians. They're absolutely incredibly well-versed, and if they don't know the song, they can figure out the song in the moment. They're amazing, right? And so it's actually really intimidating because, especially if you're a newbie playing with a crew like that, those guys are the pros, right? And so it's great experience, but it's also like you're not really in their circle. You know what I mean?Lesley Logan 24:44  No. I do love how they approach that. I love that because they're actually saying, "Okay, you've been sitting here long enough. We can see that you're jamming with us. You're tipping your head to the beat or your foot to the beat. You can do something. You pick the song." So they're allowing you to have confidence in what you're going to do. And then they get to invite you in, and then after that they never have to again, or you get to keep coming. You broke the seal. It makes me think of David Doss as well. Remember when David Doss played at the Horse Trailer Hideout, and he noticed you were whistling, and then he's like, "Do you know the song?" He invited you in.Brad Crowell 25:14  Yeah.Lesley Logan 25:15  Because you have done karaoke, and you've been in bands, and you've toured as a singer. The stage doesn't scare you, but he does that with people all the time, and often they are not performers. Brad Crowell 25:26  Right. Often they're not. Lesley Logan 25:27  But he is allowing them to pick a song that they can do well. And I think that's just something for those of us, I think we all can take the application of etiquette and things like that to everything. I have people I go to learn from because they challenge me, right? There are people I challenge, and then there are people that I challenge to challenge people below. We all have to be doing that. Otherwise, first of all, the people that I go to, they go to people. Why? Because if they are not learning from other people, they're not going to be a good teacher for me. So I think we can all recognize where we are as the person who is the expert in one room, but maybe we're a beginner in this room. And how can we make sure that we're moving along, but we're also moving other people along? We can't always be the guide. At some point, we have to pass the torch.Brad Crowell 26:11  Yeah, you're right. You're right on the money on that. It is important to set yourself up to be a guide for the next generation coming along. There's one other thing I wanted to mention about the conversation before I moved on, and that is about the skill of listening and responding to others in a musical context, but also in a conversation. For example, I just did it. I acknowledged what you said, and then I changed the topic. Right? When I was in college, I don't even know how I met this professor, but he said, "Hey, I want you to come audition for this class. You can't just join the class; you have to audition for the class." I was, "Okay." So I didn't even know what that meant. He didn't give me anything to prepare. I didn't know what was going on, so I just brought a bunch of music with me that I could play. And he was like, "All right, cool. I want you to play this thing," and I just played it. And he was, "Okay, cool. Now I'm going to play this on my guitar, and I want you to play along with me." And then we did. And then he's like, "I'm going to let you lead, and then I'm going to play along with you." And I was, "Okay." And we did this half-hour audition, right? And afterwards, he asked me a few questions, and he invited me to join this class. And literally this entire class was what he taught was the art of listening, right? And it wasn't what the class was even called. I can't remember what it was called. It was an unbelievable class. And this guy is one of the most astounding musicians I've ever met. He could hear an entire song and then write the song down afterwards in musical notation. He had.Lesley Logan 27:41  That's a crazy memory.Brad Crowell 27:42  It was perfect memory and perfect pitch. He could listen to a song and understand exactly what was happening. He could see it and write it out. Lesley Logan 27:48  What a savant!Brad Crowell 27:49  Yeah, savant, completely. But what he did in that class was so awkward because there was no music. There was no jam. You didn't have a rhythm that you were playing to. He took our class and he said, "All right, today in class we've got a French horn, two guitars, a bass. We got a guy playing the timbale, which is a weird drum that is amazing, and we got a trombone player, and then there's a guitar player. So go." We're, "What do you mean, go?" And he's, "Someone can start playing, and then if you feel inspired by what they're playing, I want you to play off of what they're playing. And then other people are going to jump in, and they're going to play, and then you're going to play, and together it will turn into something." And we were, "What the hell?"Lesley Logan 28:35  Every day for a whole semester?Brad Crowell 28:37  Not every day. It was once or twice a week. I can't remember. But it became one of my favorite classes to go to. And he told us, "You're never allowed to record this class. This class is not about turning this into a song. That's not what this is. What we're doing here is we're listening to each other, and we're responding based on what we're listening to." It was amazing. Unbelievable.Lesley Logan 28:56  That's cool. By the way, based on the science of learning, that's exactly what you're supposed to do. You just throw people in, and then they have to start swimming.Brad Crowell 29:03  Yeah.Lesley Logan 29:04  If you don't, you just start drowning. So somebody feels the pressure enough to go, "Fuck it, okay?" And then other people are like, "Well, I don't want them to be alone," so they jump in. And then what happens is you start taking the knowledge that you have, the skill sets, and you start applying it to your long-term memory. It comes out of short-term memory. It moves into long-term memory because you're forced to hit recall because you're not actually reading any music. When you read music, you can leave that stuff in short-term memory and let it go. It switches to long-term because you're forced to listen and apply something that you've learned that could fit. It's fucking brilliant.Brad Crowell 29:37  Yeah. People have told me over the years, "Brad, when we're in a conversation, I feel like you're really listening to me," and I genuinely attribute that to this class.Lesley Logan 29:46  I would say you definitely do that better than I do on every day.Brad Crowell 29:49  Yeah, because I had to. I learned how to do that in the class, and now it's just part of it, you know. So anyway, just the art of listening and how do you listen and how do you participate in a group like that? How do you encourage and respond? And sometimes you're taking the lead. Sometimes you're not taking the lead.Lesley Logan 30:07  I think this whole thing you can apply to anything you want to do. Brad Crowell 30:10  Yep.Lesley Logan 30:10  Because everything is with people. So anyways, we have to wrap it up. Brad Crowell 30:14  I love it. Sorry, I got really excited about this episode. All right, stick around. We'll be right back. We're going to talk about those Be It Action Items. Brad Crowell 30:21  All right. So finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic, or targeted action items can we take away from your conversation with Tara Connaghan? She emphasized that time and consistency are the only true replacements for convenience in the learning process. Okay. Time and consistency are the only true replacements for convenience in the learning process. What does that actually mean? What is she talking about when we say convenience in the learning process?Lesley Logan 30:48  I think you've got to make learning easier. You have to not only do it for some time, but also consistently. So, for example, I'm doing the upLift Beta program right now. There's one person who, at the time of 30 days, has had halfway to 100 hours already, right? So that is time and consistency. They're picking up different things versus some people who only have nine. Now, I'm not saying one's better than the other. Actually, they're observing different things. But if you are only picking up something one hour once a week, you are going to have a harder time as the learning continues because you're having to restart and remember everything once a week versus if you were to even do 15 minutes every single dayBrad Crowell 31:27  Yeah.Lesley Logan 31:27  It might even be the same amount of time from the one time a week to the seven times a week. But because you have the consistency of picking it up, you're actually having more convenience.Brad Crowell 31:36  Yeah. She specifically said you don't build it up in one go; you build it up every single day. And it's more valuable to have 10 to 15 minutes a day than it is to do an hour once a week.Lesley Logan 31:46  It's the same, by the way, guys. This applies to everything. I do not write one newsletter at a time. I write all of them. I do not do one podcast at a time. We do several because the setup, the getting ready, all that stuff. It allows you. It's just better. So just be more consistent. You put it all together. You'll get there.Brad Crowell 32:02  I mean, Pilates and music, it's so much muscle memory, you know. And you can't cram muscle memory. It doesn't work. Motor learning does not work. She was equating it to brushing your teeth. You do it twice a day, forever. You've been doing it forever. So it gets to the point where it's rote. You don't even think about it anymore because you've done it so many times. You know how to do it without actually processing it. You can think about something else while you're doing that. She said, "How do you do this? How do you make sure that you get your 10 to 15 minutes a day in?" She said, "Keep your instrument in easy reach. Make it visible."Lesley Logan 32:36  Yeah, whatever your instrument is.Brad Crowell 32:38  Yeah.Lesley Logan 32:38  I love that.Brad Crowell 32:38  What about you?Lesley Logan 32:39  She said, "Pick the thing that fills your cup and go for it."Brad Crowell 32:42  Yeah, just in life.Lesley Logan 32:43  Yeah, in life, pick the thing that fills your cup and go for it. Do the thing that really gives you so much joy and fills your cup. And I think this is really important. A lot of times, a lot of us are focused on the thing we don't do well, and they're like, "Why can't I get this?" And there are people who can get that for you. I was coaching someone today for Profitable Pilates, and she's not good at tech, but I don't have an online business, right? And so I'm listening to her whole thing she's working on, and she's doing all the right things according to all the right coaches. Then it comes out she needs nine clients, and I was like, "Girl, you don't need to be online for these nine clients for your online business. You could just tell 27 people what you do and then ask them to refer you, and I bet you'll get nine people. At worst, you get three. Yes, those three people refer you three people." But you do not need to pick the thing that you're not good at to make this business work. You need to pick the thing that you're good at and make this business work. So it applies to everything. Pick the thing that fills your cup, and then do that thing because when you fill your cup, everything is easier, including being in rooms that scare you. So yeah, I'm Lesley Logan.Brad Crowell 33:44  And I'm Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 33:45  Thanks so much for being here today. Make sure that you tell Tara what touched you, what made you think of something, what aha moments you had. Send in your wins to the beitpod.com/questions, and we'll see you later. 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Being a beginner as an adult is its own kind of awkward, and most of us just call it nerves. Irish traditional musician and award-winning podcast host Tara Connaghan says that is not it at all. The real problem is that nobody handed you the rules of the room. She takes Lesley through the four stages of learning, why the frustrating middle is where most people quit, and the rock bottom that gave her clarity. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Why five to ten minutes of practice a day beats one long session.The trouble with joining sessions built for high level musicians.What makes correcting an adult learner harder than correcting a child.Why boundaries make newcomers feel safe and know if they fit.How to pick a group that matches your current skill level.Episode References/Links:Session Etiquette Website – https://www.sessionetiquette.comSession Etiquette Facebook – https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61576848312798In Tune with Tradition Podcast - https://beitpod.com/taraconnaghanpodTara Connaghan Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/tarafiddleTara Connaghan Facebook – https://www.facebook.com/tara.connaghanTara Connaghan LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/taraconnaghanTara Connaghan YouTube – https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5tQCcQU81_mewa2uMRbq7AEp 153 ft Tanya Dalton - https://beitpod.com/ep153Big Magic by Elizabeth Gilbert - https://a.co/d/010vNZRZEat, Pray, Love by Elizabeth Gilbert - https://a.co/d/00rGaxuPSubmit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questions If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! 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So I put my hands on my heart because I feel like it's here. The music, when I play it, it's here. I suppose maybe because it is a fiddle as well, or a violin, but it's something so close, and I have lost it. I did lose it for a while, and if I lost it again, I don't know if I could survive that second loss. Lesley Logan 0:22  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast, where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world, and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity, and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guests will bring bold, executable, intrinsic, and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and be it till you see it. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 1:03  Okay, Be It babe. Here's the deal: we have a unique topic on the podcast, but actually, we go extremely applicable to your life, if anything. We're going to talk about learning. We're going to talk about rock bottoms. We're going to talk about etiquette with the types of people that you're wanting to be around, and I think it's just quite fun. Tara's my new Irish friend that I didn't know I needed. Her name's Tara Connaghan, and she actually is an award-winning podcast host, and she teaches people how to play Irish music and also be in Irish sessions and the etiquette for that. And you're, what? But all of it is, I think, really the conversation is so helpful because if you want to be it till you see it, and I want to be in a pickleball league, or I want to be teaching X thing, or I want to learn this new skill, some of the things we have to understand is the process of learning, and then the etiquette of how do we join these groups? What are those things? So it's really quite fun. I can't wait for you to hear her, and then you'll have to check out her award-winning podcast because that's so great. Here is Tara Connaghan. Lesley Logan 1:59  All right, Be It babes. This is going to be fun. This is going to be totally interesting. It's a topic I've definitely never had a guest on before, and that means we get to learn something new, but also learn things that we can use along our way to something unique. So, Tara Connaghan is our guest today. Tara, can you tell everyone who you are and what you rock at? Tara Connaghan 2:18  Hi, Lesley. I am an Irish traditional musician. I love playing Irish music. I love playing music in Irish music sessions, particularly. I'm from the northwest of Ireland, which is Donegal, which is kind of, it's not part of Northern Ireland, but it's more northerly than Northern Ireland. But it's geographically Northern Ireland, but not politically, if that makes sense. So we're in the Republic of Ireland. Very confusing. And I've lived all over Ireland. I've lived around the world a couple of bits, but mostly I'm always kind of living around Ireland. But I'm back in Donegal now for the last maybe 12 years, and I just love sessions. But I teach adults a lot, and they're always worried about joining into sessions because they're maybe newcomers to the sessions. So I always thought it was performance anxiety that was the problem, but actually, what's feeding the performance anxiety is that they don't know the etiquette to joining sessions. And so that was why I decided to start a podcast almost a year ago about etiquette, teaching people the etiquette of joining sessions, and I'm learning so much. Oh my God, it's amazing. Lesley Logan 3:21  Okay, there's so many things I want to talk about because, first of all, what are sessions, and then to know what the etiquette is, but also it just goes into a lot of us do label something performance anxiety or just blanket anxiety when really it's we don't know how to be a beginner, we don't know how to enter something new. We don't know how to... It's hard to join a group because when you're an adult, all the groups are already kind of filled, and you're, I've got to join in on something, and they already know everything, and I don't know, and we don't know how to be beginners. Is that kind of what's happening? Tara Connaghan 3:50  Totally, totally, yeah. Lesley Logan 3:52  Okay, so just so we have the definitions, what are sessions, and what is the etiquette? Tara Connaghan 3:56  A session can be lots of... There's lots of different types of sessions and different functions for sessions, but the main session is that it's a group of musicians who get together to play Irish music. Lesley Logan 4:09  Okay. Tara Connaghan 4:09  That's kind of the simplest term or the simplest way of explaining it. It's people who kind of know what Irish music is, and they want to play it with each other, and they want to kind of share their music together, and it's like a team. It's a team. Lesley Logan 4:22  Okay, like you're making a band, but you're not a band, like a group. Tara Connaghan 4:25  Yes, yeah. But there's no... Usually there's... Well, I say usually. A session is usually something without microphones, although sometimes it has microphones because it's maybe for tourists or maybe it's a noisy pub or something. So usually the ones that are in the corner with no microphones, they're just playing to each other. Lesley Logan 4:44  It's like jazz when they get together and they just play together. Okay, so there can be sessions of any kind, but sessions for this would be the Irish musicians getting together. And then is the etiquette different for the Irish music versus, I guess, any musician, or what does that look like? Tara Connaghan 5:00  I don't think it's particularly different. There may be slight differences. I think maybe one of the things is that you could be playing in a session with some of your heroes. They're quite accessible. Irish traditional musicians almost would be classed as... they're professionals but amateurs. Lesley Logan 5:17  Okay, okay. Tara Connaghan 5:18  Because they're not all making a living from it. Okay, so you could have some of the highest-quality Irish musicians playing in a session. You might have just come across, or maybe you've never heard Irish music before, and you walk in and you could be listening to some of the most amazing musicians. Lesley Logan 5:35  That's so cool. I love this. I love this. So this is... I am grateful for the definitions because you're an expert in this area, but this is the thing for a lot of things, right? You could be in a chess group or a mahjong or pickleball. I'm a Pilates instructor who travels to teach Pilates instructors, and I find that if I want to just be in the group, sometimes the nervousness from the other people who maybe watch my videos or things like that, they get nervous and they have this performance anxiety, and it's like we're just here to kind of hang out. So, I guess if we could take it in a broad sense, how did you get here? Because we don't wake up going, "I'm gonna teach this." You know what I mean? It's not like what you tell someone in kindergarten. "When I grow up, I'm gonna teach Irish music." So, can you go back to your journey? Tara Connaghan 6:23  I mentioned that I teach the adults mostly. I have a fortnightly fiddle class that I do, and I also teach at different summer schools or camps or things that we would teach music at throughout the year. And for the last... I've been playing music for nearly 40 years. Oh my god, I am playing music for 40 years. Oh god, that just dawned on me. Oh my god. Lesley Logan 6:45  That's amazing, though, but it's annoying because, wow, so much clout, and also, oh, I'm older than I thought. Tara Connaghan 6:53  Yes, yeah, yeah. So I've been teaching a long time. I do prefer to teach adults. I just have a natural sort of bond because an adult wants to be there. They're putting all their time and their energy, and they really want to be there. Whereas kids, the parents want them to be there. So I just want to be with people who want to do something, and then I can help them. If they don't want to be there, then I can't help them. So in every workshop, even though it's more about repertoire, when you're in the workshop we're like, we learn this tune and we learn this tune and we learn... So we might learn maybe three tunes a day or maybe one tune, depending on the levels of people. And always within one of those workshops or classes or camps, there will always be questions. Once one person asks, "Do I have enough tunes to start, to play in a session? Or can I sit there? Am I allowed to do this? Am I allowed to do that? Do you have to have this?" There's so many questions, and because there's so many unknowns, and they don't know the answers, they are terrified. And then when you're anxious and terrified, you probably do actions that you wouldn't normally do. Lesley Logan 8:02  You make mistakes because the nerves are taking away the ability to be present. Tara Connaghan 8:08  Yes, yeah, yeah. And then they start... Then things happen, and they're like, "Oh, and such-and-such gave out to me for doing something." And I think we've all been given out to. It's a natural sort of... If we go back to the animal kingdom, there's kind of a natural, "Look, you don't do that. You don't do that. Don't do this," and you're kind of almost like a cat would do to its kitten. Lesley Logan 8:31  Yeah. Tara Connaghan 8:33  It's not that you're trying to say you shouldn't be... There's no kind of "you shouldn't" or whatever. But it's just kind of a, "No, no, no. Wait this," or "Wait for your turn," or "Wait to this." So it's kind of the natural... You're teaching the natural language of your culture, whatever. But that's normally given to children. Lesley Logan 8:51  Right. Tara Connaghan 8:52  It's very hard to give that to an adult who is your peer in terms of age, but not your peer in terms of skill, and that's a really difficult thing to do. So Irish people are very, very bad at giving feedback. They don't want to offend anybody, so we just say nothing, and then things can blister away and fester. Lesley Logan 9:11  I wonder if anyone is good at giving feedback very often because we're not trained at that. You don't go to college and learn, "Okay, in your life, if you have to give feedback to someone, this is the way you give it." That's not anything anyone's trained in. So if your culture is more, "We're just not going to say anything at all," it's just going to fester and blister, and we'll just put you over there in the corner. Other people will just tell you what it is and honestly cramp someone's spirit. You could just step on a flower. So I think we all have to learn how to be better at feedback, but it's different when students are learning because when you're younger, yes, there are still personality types that are putting pressure on themselves to be perfect. No matter your age, there are different levels to learning. Correct? Because whether or not you are learning Irish music or anything, every learning has a level. Tara Connaghan 10:02  I mean, there's the four stages of learning. So there's when you're totally unconsciously aware. You're completely unaware. So when you were maybe two, your mother tied your shoelaces. You didn't tie your shoes. You didn't even know that shoelaces existed. They're just not in your conscious realm at all. And then maybe as you get... maybe four or five, you're like, "Oh, hold on a second. My mother's tying my shoes. I want to try that." You start getting, "I want to try it." Then there's that stage where you're conscious of it, but you realize how bad you are at it. So your competency level is pretty poor. You're incompetent, but you're consciously incompetent, so you know you're shit at it. Lesley Logan 10:45  That's so hard because it's so frustrating. Tara Connaghan 10:48  So frustrating. You're like, "I can't..." Sorry, I don't know if I can curse. Lesley Logan 10:52  You can curse on this show. Totally. Tara Connaghan 10:56  So you're so frustrated, as you say, and so many people give up at that stage because they're like, "I can't do this. No, I'm out." That sounds like me with surfing or certain things. I'm just like, "No, I can't do this. I'm out." Lesley Logan 11:10  I understand that. With ADHD, I can be okay being bad at something, but I have to get good at it quickly. Otherwise, I'm out. My attention span's not there. But it is interesting. We see that in people in all learning things, right? I teach people how to teach Pilates, and you can see even if they're already teaching Pilates, when they discover that there is stuff that they didn't know they didn't know, then there's a frustration that no one told them, "I didn't know this." But you can't be told, no one is expert at everything when they're new. You just start new. Okay, so then we're pissed off, we're frustrated, and if we don't quit, what happens next? Tara Connaghan 11:52  So if we don't quit and we keep going, then we start getting to a place where we're more competent. We've got a bit more competency. There's a big range within that. You're starting to get competent, and then you grow up to being much more competent, and you're consciously aware that you're competent. So it's maybe when you're six or seven and you're still tying the shoelaces. You can tie them, but it takes a bit of... You're still focusing on it. That takes a huge amount of energy, so it's a very exhausting stage where you're focusing on, "I have to tie the shoe. I have to do this loop and that loop." And your fingers are just faltering at it. The same with playing an instrument. You're kind of like, "I have to watch my left finger..." Lesley Logan 12:42  "...this thing, and then breathe, and then this one." You're still talking yourself through it. Yes.  Tara Connaghan 12:46  Or even driving. "I have to put my foot here, and I have to look at the clutch. I have to put on my seatbelt before all of that, and I have to look in the mirror." I have to do this. There's so many things. Your brain is still running through the process of how to do it. Then you get to the last stage, which is you're competent, but you're unconsciously competent. So it's totally, did you remember tying your shoelaces this morning? No. You just did it. It becomes ingrained so that you don't even know that you're doing it anymore, but you can do it. The same with playing the fiddle. I'm thinking of something else because it's unconscious. It's already in the muscle memory of my fingers. It's in the muscle memory of my brain, my elbows, my whole body. My body does it, and then I can focus on, not something else, but something like, the next level, which is, "How do I do it better? How do I do the intricacies?" You're listening and going, "Oh, such-and-such did that. I might do that." You're listening for something else. Lesley Logan 13:54  Yeah, you can take more in. My husband's a musician. That's not me, but I can attribute it to things in my world. I retook a workshop I've taken from this person before, and I thought I was just going to sit there and get reminded of a few quotes I liked from them. Then they said something, and I was like, "What? What is that?" And it was just like, "Oh, I didn't know the thing before that. It wasn't ingrained in me, so I couldn't even pick up on this if I wanted to." It was always there, but I didn't have the capacity to hear it or see it or understand it because I just had to get the muscle memory there so that nuance could even stand out. Tara Connaghan 14:35  And that takes years. We're in such a culture that everything is convenient. It's quick. Everything's fast. But I don't think there's anything that can replace just time of learning and putting the time in. Lesley Logan 14:52  Tara, how do you help people do that, though? Because obviously what you do is so unique. But however you help them, we all have to understand that it does take time, and it's hard for adults because there's so much unconscious competence happening because we're in our life. We can drive home without even realizing it. There's just things that we do. It scares the fuck out of me every time. I'm like, "How did I get here? Whoa." How do you remind adults to be patient to go through the different stages? Tara Connaghan 15:18  It's not easy. None of us like it for anything. I got a sewing machine. I am crap at sewing, because I never did it in school. I did woodwork instead. It just takes it. I just have to remind people it may only be five minutes per day, and then supplement it with a couple of maybe intense weekends or an intense week where you really focus on it, almost like 12-hour days. That really supplements it. But you need the five minutes per day, five to 10 minutes per day. I think, really helps people. Lesley Logan 15:53  Okay, let's dive into that because I think people think, "Oh, I'll just do this on my day off." But if you just do several hours on one day, it's almost... Do you think it's better if they were to do five to 10 minutes per day for six to seven days is better than one day for two hours? Tara Connaghan 16:10  Absolutely, 1,000%. Lesley Logan 16:12  And why? Do we know why? Tara Connaghan 16:15  There are actually studies that show that because you're building up the muscle memory. You don't build it up in one go. You build it up every day. You don't wash your teeth just once a week. Lesley Logan 16:27  Right. Right. Tara Connaghan 16:28  You wash them every day because ifLesley Logan 16:30  You washed your teeth for two hours once a week, it wouldn't even make up for it. Even though it's like three times the amount you should brush your teeth, it doesn't even make the difference. Tara Connaghan 16:38  No, it's not going to make the difference because the plaque is already there. It would be too hard to remove it. That's just what it is. And five to 10 minutes, that's nothing. Lesley Logan 16:47  Right. I think that's the hard part because people go, "That's nothing. So does it even matter?" Tara Connaghan 16:53  Yeah. So, tomorrow... I'm learning the concertina as well. I do play the fiddle. I've played the fiddle for almost 40 years, but I have a concertina, which is this little kind of hexagon-shaped instrument. I normally have it at my desk, but I'm not at my desk. I'm actually in New York. Lesley Logan 17:10  Cool. What's a concertina? I gotta look this up. I need a visual. Lesley Logan 17:14  Concertina. Lesley Logan 17:16  Concertina.  Tara Connaghan 17:17  Yeah, so, hexagon-shaped. Lesley Logan 17:21  This is... Oh, that's cool. For everyone who's not Googling this while they're driving, please don't. First of all, they're not cheap. It's like an accordion, but a hexagon has six or seven sides. Tara Connaghan 17:40  Your fingers are working from both sides. Lesley Logan 17:43  Yes. Tara Connaghan 17:44  Yes. So it's very petite and dainty. It's a real kind of woman's... Lesley Logan 17:50  It's so beautiful. An accordion is not sexy. Nothing's sexy about an accordion. This is quite cute. This looks like the Victorian era. Tara Connaghan 17:56  Yes. It's very ornate, and designs in it. So I'm learning that now. I had it right beside my computer because you're, especially if you're doing something, and then you need kind of like coffee beans to refresh your brain. So I used to have that, and I'd play for five or 10 minutes. I didn't have access to my concertina for about 15 years because I had lent it to somebody else, and they forgot to give it back to me. Eventually I got it back recently, and I started playing for about five minutes whenever I got bored, well, not bored, but my brain is overworked and overwhelmed and I needed to deep-dive into it for five minutes. The first day I was like, "Oh my god, I can't even remember where the notes are." I was like one-finger typing. Lesley Logan 18:45  I understand. Yeah. Tara Connaghan 18:47  Until, after a couple of weeks, he came down to the office and said, "That actually sounded quite good." Lesley Logan 18:55  Because it came back to you because you just had it. I love what you said, that you had it right next to you. For anything we're wanting to do, my listeners know I was studying the tarot, and unfortunately it got away from me because I had the app, which is great because when I was traveling I couldn't have the cards, but I'm a physical kind of person. So when I was at home, having the cards and the book at my desk, while I'm waiting for the Zoom call to start, I could just read a page. Having those little doses of information actually allows you to take it in. Whereas it's a lot, especially when you're in the incompetence, it's a lot in the brain to do it and you don't retain as much. I'm studying the science of learning right now, I'm really interested in this, and there's a whole lot we have to do self-reflection and self-quizzing. That's actually the best when you're learning anything. You're not waiting for the test to come where you cram, or in music, I guess, the concert to come where you perform. You have to kind of test your skills on your own and then learn from what you don't know. Tara Connaghan 0:00  Yeah, and I think for joining a session as well, you have to learn to play with other people, and that can be a big learning curve as well, because it might be that you've just started an instrument, so this is totally new. You've got a new instrument. Oh my god. I'm still trying to figure out where the notes are. I'm still trying to figure all this out. You're still kind of incompetent. And you need to learn also how to play with other people if you want to join a session. Lesley Logan 20:26  Yeah. Tara Connaghan 20:27  I think those kinds of camps are a great place to do that. They can be big sessions, so you can kind of hide behind people for a while until you get a bit more competency in playing with others because it's a really different skill, being able to listen to yourself while listening to others.Lesley Logan 20:45  How do you, how do you get the... Because that's a bit of courage and bravery, to go from playing by yourself in your home to, okay, I'm going to take this. What advice do you have for people who... There's embarrassment, there's nervousness. How do you get over yourself enough to go? Because I'm someone who'd be a fly on the wall until I'm shoved off the cliff. That's kind of me. But how do you get yourself ready?Tara Connaghan 21:06  I think it's a good idea, if you're learning from a class situation where you've got classmates, then maybe your teacher might have a once-a-year or once-a-month or once-a-week session where they encourage you to come, if you want to join a session. It's a very gentle process where you're coming into it in a very gentle way. What I would definitely not recommend you do is go into a session where there are high-level musicians who need something totally different. So if you're a beginner musician, you want to be feeling kind of a belonging. You want to sense this sense of community. A high-level musician who's been playing for 40 years, they already have that. What they want is challenge, and you're not going to challenge them if you're a newcomer. So don't be afraid, or don't be... not afraid, but don't be putting yourself in that position. Don't take it personally, I think is what I'm trying to say.Lesley Logan 22:01  Well, this makes a lot of sense to me because in life, if you have a skill or there's something you're doing, it's really good to have people who are your equals, so your classmates, like you mentioned. And then there's the people who are below you, in a different level. Playing with people below you builds your confidence because, whoa, I'm not like that anymore, right?Tara Connaghan 22:19  Yes.Lesley Logan 22:20  Playing with people who are at the same level as you makes you feel comfortable and, okay, I've got my people. But typically, if you're going to play with people who are above you, you'd be paying to play with them. You're in their workshop or you're in their thing because they need people above them to challenge them and people like them who understand what they need. And if they're going to have people below them, it's because they're teaching them.Tara Connaghan 22:43  Exactly. And I think it's funny that you should pick that up so quickly because that seems to be something that we've... I suppose we're so close to it, you can't see the wood from the trees when you're so in the middle of it. And so it's only recently that I figured, from conversations actually, that's more of a teaching environment when we're in a session with people that are below us. And that's a very different thing. That's quite draining because you're giving a lot of energy, and you're not.Lesley Logan 23:10  Getting yourself filled up. There have to be sessions for the person who's more of the expert to be filled up. I get that totally. I teach a lot of students, and I have no problems doing that. But when I am in the workshop to learn, if people bother me to understand, I'm like, "Oh, I'm not in that brain. I'm here." So I find I'm very particular about the places I go to learn in or be challenged in because I want to stay in that frame. And if you are wanting me to teach you in that space, I'm a little bit... Okay, I've got to get my cup filled.Tara Connaghan 23:45  I suppose I would love to be able to say that certain things in certain situations... I think we are quite welcoming.Lesley Logan 23:54  Yeah, and that's the hard part because I don't want to stamp on anyone's flowers or anyone's willingness to learn. And I also think they don't understand what they don't... You know what I mean? They don't know that they're just asking a question. And you are an expert, and you are someone who usually teaches. But there has to be a space where you can go be yourself and be challenged.Tara Connaghan 24:13  Yeah, yeah. I think so. I have found that some people like to shame skilled musicians for having that, and I'm trying to call that out and go, "No, I'm not happy that that is something that should be definitely there."Lesley Logan 24:26  I think that's interesting, right? What an awareness we can have because it's fine to have the need to have the space to be in your creative space or to not be in teaching mode, to be in play mode or creativity mode. And also, how do we remind people of the rules of the space without hurting their feelings or pissing them off or making them feel like they're stupid? I don't know if you have those in Ireland, but people have these signs in their house, like, "In this house, we believe in science," and things like that. There, we believe in these... When you walk into the space, if these-level musicians are playing, you're free to watch, but please write down all questions and save them for your... You know what I mean? It's okay to be in their presence, of course, and be inspired. But this is when you're allowed to ask the questions. I guess it goes back to the etiquette. It's like having rules for... If you're a house that has no shoes on or shoes off, it's kind of like that.Tara Connaghan 25:25  Yeah. I suppose it's always being one of those environments that is very spontaneous. So I think when you have a spontaneous environment, the thought of rules makes it really kind of...Lesley Logan 25:38  I understand. Yeah. Well, Tanya Dalton, we had her on the show, and she talked about when there are boundaries, everyone can be more creative and have more fun.Tara Connaghan 25:50  Yes.Lesley Logan 25:51  She explained it, and you guys, I'll put the link in the show notes because I actually don't remember which episode number she is. But she said if there's a school playground and there's no fence, and the teachers tell the kids, "Hey, stay close to the school building to play," you're going to have some kids who literally don't leave the wall. They just play next to the wall. You're going to have some kids who play in the middle, and then you're going to have some kids who are going all the way to the edge because they want to see how far they can go. But if you put the fence up and you say you just have to stay in the fence, then all of a sudden everyone can play. So I guess it's interesting because some people don't want to have rules on things to affect the creativity, but they'll have more creativity if they just have some set rules.Tara Connaghan 26:35  Yeah, and I think everybody feels safer as well then if there are some sort of boundaries. Especially newcomers can feel safe because they know, "Right, well, this is maybe not the session for me," or "This one is the session for me."Lesley Logan 26:47  Yeah, because I'm the girl who'd be next to the wall because I don't understand. I don't want to fuck it up, and I don't want to embarrass myself, and I don't want to make someone mad. So I would be the person who doesn't even join any session, even the ones at my level, because I wouldn't... So I think that's where it's important. No matter what the thing is that we're joining or learning, we have to understand the etiquette, but also the people above us have to define that so that we can.Tara Connaghan 27:11  Yeah, yeah, I guess. Lesley Logan 27:12  Or at least the host of the place. Tara Connaghan 27:15  Yeah, yeah, yeah.Lesley Logan 27:17  So Tara, your enthusiasm and joy for what you do is so contagious. I really do love it. How did you get to keep your passion for this? Because I have to imagine that in the 40 years of playing music, Irish music hasn't been famous for all 40 years. How did you keep it going? What did you do? Then you're in this new space where you have this podcast. I guess people listening to this have been doing things for 20 or 30 years, and sometimes they wonder if they should keep doing that. Is it worth doing? How do they know when to stop? What advice do you have for that?Tara Connaghan 27:55  I did have a time in my early 30s, which is almost 20 years ago. god, sorry.Lesley Logan 28:03  It's all right. I just looked at pictures of myself at 25, and I was like, "Whoa, that was a long time ago."Tara Connaghan 28:09  When I arrived in New York a couple of days ago, I had a suitcase, and I was trying to walk up the stairs, carry it up the stairs. And this young fella, I think he was probably about 25 or something, said, "Do you want me to help?" And I was like, "No, no, I've got a friend coming. She's going to help me as well." And he said, "Oh, if this was my mother, I would hope somebody would help me." And I was like, "Oh my god!"Lesley Logan 28:27  He was being so sweet, and also...Tara Connaghan 28:32  The realization. But of course I could be his mother. But I don't even have kids.Lesley Logan 28:36  Tara, I understand. I have friends my age who have kids who are in high school, so I was like, "I could have a high schooler." Tara Connaghan 28:44  Yeah, I could totally have somebody who's gone through college, finished college. Anyway, let's not go there. So in my 30s, I did have a bit of a, wow, I thought I would be somewhere different. I thought things would feel different. There was that kind of realization: Is this it? There was always this kind of, I thought it was going to be different, and I thought it was going to be amazing. I went through maybe not a spiral downwards, but I was just lost for a while. And then, it was kind of a spiral to a couple of things. I had somebody who was really, really close to me pass away, and that person held my future dreams. So that totally took the carpet from underneath me. I was like, "Well, what do I do now?" It was totally the end now. And I think when you get to rock bottom, you go, "What are the things that are actually really important?" That's what I had to do. I just had to go food, water... I mean, we're talking basic. I think I had probably experienced a bit of PTSD at the time, post-traumatic stress disorder, because I couldn't plan ahead. All I could think of was the next hour and what are the basic needs that I need. So food, water, shelter, friendship. And I thought, "You know what? Music is what fills my cup." And so I had to figure out what was the thing that fills my cup? I have loads of interests. What was the one thing that I really wanted? And I think when you get to rock bottom, things become so clear. I'm not advocating for getting to rock bottom, but if you want clarity, you will find it down there.Lesley Logan 30:37  I think years ago I heard someone say you can't take someone's rock bottom away. You can give advice, but also, sometimes we don't learn what we need to until we are there. Some of us just need to clear everything away. I have to say, I am so grateful for the rock bottom I had because it was, "Okay, I've got nothing. So if I'm going to add to this nothing, it better be something I want." I don't want to add. It was the first time I had a clean slate. I don't want to add stuff I don't want. So I agree with you.Tara Connaghan 31:11  Declutter.Lesley Logan 31:12  Yeah.Tara Connaghan 31:13  It really declutters the mind, and it really focuses on just the important things. Music was the thing that, it's almost like the light at the end of the tunnel, but it was just something that I had that was present, that was just filling my cup, as you said. So I kept doing that. Not that I was doing it all the time, but when I needed that sort of, because I went home to my parents' house, and I slept for about six months. I didn't go outside the door. I remember having relations saying, "Oh, you can't do that." And I was like, "Please don't ever tell anybody that they can't take the time that they need to recover because I needed that time." It took a good few years, but I needed the six months of complete and utter sleep. Then it took another couple of years before I was able to get back to being a normal person again. I'd say I'm a huge amount stronger because of it, and just more clear. So.Lesley Logan 32:12  Yeah.Tara Connaghan 32:12  Music is just... yeah. And I think every time I'm in a session, the other thing is if I'm playing for money, it's a job.Lesley Logan 32:20  Yeah.Tara Connaghan 32:22  So I kind of removed that. Even though I still get paid, I removed the, "Oh, this one is a gig." It's, "I'm going to go and I'm going to play music. Fantastic. If somebody gives me money at the end, great." Sometimes I want to make sure that it's good money at the end, but I looked at it differently. It wasn't for the money. It was for the music, and then somebody gives me money as well, and that's great.Lesley Logan 32:46  I appreciate you sharing that journey because I think we all look at other people and go, "Oh my goodness, they must have loved this their whole life," and not realize that there are parts of their lives where they loved it, but they didn't get up for six months. Everyone is on an up-and-down journey that hopefully always ends up, but it's going to have its own nuances. And if we don't take the time we need to find what fills our cup, then I don't know that we get to enjoy it. I feel like life is worth enjoying. Yes, sometimes we get paid for things we love, but also we should do things because we love them.Tara Connaghan 33:26  Yeah, totally. So I think that was how I got out of that sort of, "I'm doing it for the money." I don't know if you've ever read Big Magic.Lesley Logan 33:37  Obsessed. Great book.Tara Connaghan 33:39  Fantastic.Lesley Logan 33:39  I'm not sure I agree with her in the more recent years of life, but I love that book. So, everyone must, required reading. So good. Required reading.Tara Connaghan 33:51  Yeah. It just gives so much freedom to your creativity as well. It's like, "Oh yeah, that's so cool." It's like it's a muse. You're the host of a creative idea, and you entertain it, or eventually it'll just go, "Look, I'm an idea, and I need to be created. So if you're not going to create me, somebody else will have to do it." Such a great idea.Lesley Logan 34:14  You guys, if you're wondering what is she saying, you have to go read the book. It's, ideas want to be born, it's Elizabeth Guilbert, I believe that's her name. She wrote Eat, Pray, Love, and she even shares that she still worked as a professor even after she wrote that book, even after it was a bestseller, even after it became a movie. It was years before she thought, "Okay, I can just be a writer for a living." I think that's a really important lesson for all of us who are doing something we're passionate about because the pressure you put on it changes the joy you get out of it, and also what you create.Tara Connaghan 34:50  Yeah. It's too intimate to be putting pressure on it because I did lose it. So I put my hands on my heart because I feel like it's here. The music, when I play it, it's here. I suppose maybe because it is a fiddle as well, or a violin, but it's here anyway. It's something so close, and I have lost it. I did lose it for a while, and if I lost it again, I don't know if I could survive that second loss.Lesley Logan 35:17  Yeah. Thanks for sharing that. I think that's really important. Tara, you're so fun. We're going to take a brief break and find out where people can find you, follow you, take sessions with you.Tara Connaghan 35:26  Yeah.Lesley Logan 35:28  All right, Tara. Where do you hang out? They can listen to your podcast. Can anyone play Irish music? Tell us everything.Tara Connaghan 35:36  They can listen to it on Spotify, Amazon, Apple, wherever. It's called In Tune with Tradition. There's also the subtitle, Perspectives on Session Etiquette and Irish Traditional Music. There is a website called Session Etiquette. I also have a tour kind of thing coming up, a private session experience in September 2026, at the end of September. We've got a couple of places left on it. It will be in Ireland. Brilliant. I can't wait.Lesley Logan 36:07  I feel like September in Ireland is probably good weather. Tara Connaghan 36:10  Sometimes. Actually, do you know when it's been really good weather? It's April. April for the last three or four years has been really good, really dry, sunny. Then the rest of summer's awful, and around September sometimes it can pick up again.Lesley Logan 36:23  Feels like Vegas weather, but probably different. April is so beautiful here. Don't take me away, but the summer? Get me out.Tara Connaghan 36:32  I'm in New York, and it was really, really hot for the last couple of days. Today is nice. It's just perfect.Lesley Logan 36:38  Yeah. That's an interesting place to be when it's too hot. Okay, we've talked a lot about learning and things like that. You've given us so much already, but what bold, executable, intrinsic, or targeted steps do you have for people to be it till they see it?Tara Connaghan 36:52  I think they should listen to my podcast, number one. The reason I'm in New York is because it's an award-winning podcast. It has just won some awards.Lesley Logan 37:01  Get out. Congratulations. That's amazing!Tara Connaghan 37:06  Yay! So, anyway, but more actionable steps: I think life is short. Just pick the thing that fills your cup and go for it.Lesley Logan 37:15  Yeah.Tara Connaghan 37:16  If that's Irish music, fantastic. If it's not, do the thing that makes you really, really just gives you so much joy and fills your cup because otherwise you'll always be trying to fill your cup with something that can't fill, can't do it.Lesley Logan 37:31  I agree. I think that's so true. Oh my gosh, congratulations on your podcast. That's incredible, you guys. That's not an easy thing to do, especially with a new podcast, so way to go, Tara. I agree. I was just watching a show, and it's clear there are people on the show who don't have anything else. They don't have something that fills their cup. My husband's listening to somebody, and they're... If you don't have something that's a hobby, something that's creative, friends and family, and work that gives you purpose, if you don't have those three things, f you take one of those away, you put too much pressure on the other things, and they're never going to give you the tripod. You're going to fall over. So I feel like that's really important for today. I think we all need that information. Lesley Logan 38:15  You guys, go listen to Tara's award-winning podcast. Go listen to it, and go figure out if it's... If you don't know what's filling your cup, maybe it's time to start trying new things and be consciously incompetent for a little bit. It'll get better. Share this with a friend who needs to hear it. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 38:33  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. 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What do you desire that you haven't been willing to ask for? What if you could pull it into your life magically, would you? In this episode of Choice, Change and Action, Simone Milasas talks with Julia Sotas Mattis about creating magic in your life through energy pulls, complete with two guided energy pulls.  When you do an energy pull, you are working with the consciousness of the universe. You are letting the universe know your request and you are moving energy to facilitate receiving your request. The energy pull is the perfect starting point to use chaos and discover the type of wizard you are with energy. What magic are you capable of that you have not yet acknowledged you are capable of? What if everything in life is way easier than you think it is? Questions And Tools: "What chaos am I?" "What magic am I?" "I created that. Wow, how great am I? What else is possible?" "What is magical for me? What lights my fire?" "Universe, what do I desire beyond what I can possibly imagine?" "Dear universe, what else is possible?" Tools: Reading is so powerful What would you like to do that you are not choosing? Do energy pulls. Be willing to receive what you are asking for. What action are you taking? What are the greatest possibilities available for your business? We misidentify so much that working hard is going to create greater, but it's not.  What if relaxation was required to create and generate anything and everything? Where are you being so autonomous and refusing to ask for help? What if asking for help and asking to receive more is actually the bravest thing that you could choose? Receive all energies. True receiving is opening up to the entirety of the universe; not controlling what you will and won't receive. Choice is our super power! Magic is choosing what works. Acknowledge you are the source of creation of everything. Start being that brilliance and ask for what you desire and require. If you want to create more magic, acknowledge the magic you already are creating. It will strengthen your relationship with your own magic and expand that magic. When you create magic say, "I created that. Wow, how great am I? What else is possible?" Joy can ignite more magic. Know what brings you joy. Your life is your business. What are the energies of magic for you? What lights your fire? What makes your life worth living? Ask for all of the things you desire that you can't even imagine right now; you don't need to.   What energy, space, consciousness, choice, magic, miracles, mysteries, possibilities, power, potency and profitability can you be to create a reality beyond this reality with total ease? Everything that is, times a godzillion, will you destroy and uncreate it? Right and wrong, good and bad, POD and POC, all 100, shorts, boys, creations, bases and beyonds. How many of you are trying to get it right whilst thinking you are wrong, when in truth, what if you asked for freedom? Everything that is, times a godzillion, will you destroy and uncreate it? Right and wrong, good and bad, POD and POC, all 100, shorts, boys, creations, bases and beyonds. Destroy and uncreate any blocks you have to receiving that much magic. Right and wrong, good and bad, POD and POC, all 100, shorts, boys, creations, bases and beyonds. what energy, space, consciousness, choice, magic, miracles, mysteries, possibilities, power, potency and profitability can you be to create a reality of magic totally beyond this reality for all eternity with total ease? Everything that is, times a godzillion, will you destroy and uncreate it? Right and wrong, good and bad, POD and POC, all 100, shorts, boys, creations, bases and beyonds. As Mentioned In This Episode: A Recipe For Magic, book by Julia Sotas Mattis: https://share.google/XHbXsChLrQikMvZJA  Five Little Indians, book by Michelle Good: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Little_Indians_(novel)  Ancient Apocalypse: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt22807484  Diary of a CEO: https://www.youtube.com/@TheDiaryOfACEO  90 Days of Energy Pulls: simonemilasas.com/90days  8 hour energy pull: https://youtu.be/ntb_Dwb8Ix4?si=9QchlDApopsyj1Ti  Getting Out of Debt Joyfully book by Simone Milasas: https://www.accessconsciousness.com/en/shop-catalog/book/getting-out-of-debt-joyfully  Magic. You Are It. Be It book by Gary M. Douglas & Dr. Dain Heer: https://www.accessconsciousness.com/en/shop-catalog/book/magic.-you-are-it.-be-it    Useful Links: The Clearing Statement explained Access Consciousness Website Choice, Change & Action Podcast Instagram Follow Simone Milasas Simone's Website Simone's Instagram Simone's Facebook Simone's YouTube Simone's Telegram Simone's Contact Email  Follow Julia Sotas Mattis Julia's Website Julia's Instagram Julia's Facebook Julia's YouTube Play with Simone Milasas The Profit Club membership Getting Out of Debt Joyfully Taking Action online video course All Upcoming Classes with Simone Past Class Recordings

Lesley gets real about people who police grammar mistakes on social media and what that urge to correct others actually reveals. She makes the case for staying in your own lane, letting go of perfectionism, and minding your own work instead of everyone else's. She rounds out the episode with community wins, a check-in from the tour, and a grounding mantra for the week ahead. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! 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I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:47  Hello, Be It babe. How are you? Happy Friday! Welcome to your Fuck Yeah Friday episode. I'm really excited to actually record this because it's taken 17 tries, and I'm currently looking at a blank screen that's supposed to be my notes. But we'll see if it comes up, here we go. Oh my goodness! I don't want my every single "I need a moment" to have to do with technology, but my goodness, technology really wants to be my moment that I need today. It's not, though. So it's middle of August. Thanks for being here. On these Fridays, I just like to be real with you, what's going on in my world, what I get frustrated about, what I'm celebrating, what you're celebrating, because I share your wins and a little mantra to get you on your week. If you are in my business coaching group or my eLevate mentorship, then you know you get to have a moment, but you have to have a win, and it's important to have wins at the end of the week. Just some, and it doesn't mean you completed anything. It just means that you moved the needle forward. You found some aha moment that gave you permission to be more yourself. Something doesn't have to be very big. You'll hear from the listeners who have sent in their wins, which you can too, to beitpod.com/questions. You'll hear that some of these wins are just getting one morsel of a thing done, right? Lesley Logan 2:00  So before I get into your wins and mine, a thing that I am having a moment around, I really have to be honest, is just people who point out grammar mistakes on social media. Come on, if someone rarely has a grammar error, and then you point it out when they do, don't you just think that's annoying? Between autocorrect and weird thumbs and how you'll pick this word, a different spelling of the same word comes up, unless it's in every sentence someone says or every paragraph, they probably hate that it happened. Guess what? Once it's out there, you can't fix it. It's not in the captions. It's in the thing. You just gotta let it go. So I will say my most recent one. This happened to my own followers told people like, "Come on, this is stupid. Why are you doing this?" They actually kind of beat up on the person a little more than I would have preferred. I wouldn't have done that, but it is just, it's like a little narky. You know what I mean? In a world where there are literal leaders who are killing people, you're gonna tell me that I used the wrong wear? You're gonna tell me I used the wrong wear? It's like I'm not an idiot, and the recovering perfectionist in me is embarrassed. Can we just not? People stop trying to get people to be as perfect as you are holding yourself up to be. That's what that really is. So that is the moment that I was so frustrated about the other day because Jesus, oh my God, total mistake. Yes, I'm embarrassed and also not taking it down because it blew up and did really, really well. So we're just gonna leave it that way. Now every third comment I have, someone telling me it's spelled wrong. Okay, thanks. Oh my God, did you see in the other comments that we already addressed this? I don't know. I think it goes back to last week's thing. Why can't we just stay in your own lane, do your thing, focus on what you're doing, and then if you can't say something nice, just don't say anything at all? I don't know. I see people spell the words wrong too, and guess what I don't do? Tell them. I'm like, you know what? They'll figure it out. It's not necessary. They didn't ask. If they ask, maybe, but they didn't ask. Maybe I'm the only frustrated person by that, but I am. Lesley Logan 4:11  But my win, my win. We're not done with the tour yet. We have another week. My win is that this is one of the most sold out tours we've ever done. This has been, every tour is so fun. Every tour is its own unique thing. I'm really, really proud of my team. This is a team win because one of our most integral people is on maternity leave, and the team was able to come together, step up, and put this tour out there without that person. That doesn't mean we don't need her. We absolutely do. So hi, Meredith, if you are listening, need you, but that we could do it. Without them is just a sign of how well our team works together and the mission that this is, and how much the attendees want it too. Right? In fact, every single one of you who has attended the tour or shared the tour, you're part of this win. So I'm just so grateful. We have another week left on this tour, and about nine days actually, and I'm having a great time. It's a lot of fun. It's really nice to get out of Vegas in August, and also it's Darla's first tour, so that's the most fun. So that's my win. I'm on tour and having a great time, and we were successful preparing for it.Lesley Logan 5:17  Your win, time for your win. You guys send these in to me, and then we get to talk about them. This is from @ashwilsonpilates: "Just got full time teaching at a studio I've been working at for the past few months." That's so cool, Ash. You went from part-time to full-time. That's just a massive sign that what you're doing matters, and people want more of it, so I hope you take that and save this win for when you need it because, my goodness, going full-time in teaching is a huge deal, and I'm so excited for you. There're gonna be days when you're like, "What am I doing?" And you'll remember, "Oh my God, I did so well just starting out that they wanted me to be full-time. These clients want me, and what I do matters," and it does. You're amazing. Lesley Logan 6:02  Your mantra is I appreciate the journey of becoming. I appreciate the journey of becoming. I appreciate the journey of becoming.Lesley Logan 6:14  Oh babe, this is so fun. I'm so grateful for you. I'm so excited I get to do this podcast with you, and that we get to chat about all these things and share and be part of each other's lives. If you have one to send in that I can celebrate with you, please send it in to beitpod.com/questions. If you have a theme you'd like us to do an episode on, either with an interview, a guest, or a topic, we do solo episodes as well, I want to know. Just send them into beitpod.com/questions. Until next time, Be It Till You See It.Lesley Logan 6:40  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review, and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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You can't be it till you see it while your nervous system is running the show. In this part two of the Regulation Series, Lesley gets practical about calming a dysregulated nervous system, walking through top-down tools and bottom-up somatic resets for when your mind won't quiet down. She frames self-trust as the safe place you come back to, and regulation as self-parenting rather than one more thing to discipline yourself into. Whatever your nervous system is carrying today, there is a tool in here to meet it. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Prioritize nervous system regulation before making decisions.Understand your autonomic nervous system responses.Cognitive tools to time-box worries and racing thoughts.The somatic tools to practice that calm the body.Build self-trust by honoring the achievements you tend to forget.Episode References/Links:Weighted Blanket - https://bearaby.com/collections/weighted-blanketsSleep Mask - https://nodpod.com/products/nodpodSensate (10% discount ) - https://www.getsensate.com/BEITEp. 709 - ft Megan Applegate - https://beitpod.com/ep709Submit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questions If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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I will just sit down and write down all the things that are on my mind because there are open tabs in my brain and they're all running. Your computer runs slower when all your tabs are running. Lesley Logan 0:39  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 1:22  Hey, Be It babe! Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It podcast. We are in our second episode of the Regulation series, so if you have, this is your first time listening to us, hi, welcome, and you should go listen to the first one because otherwise this will make no sense. Or you can listen to this one. You know what? I'm a believer of you doing you. So I'm excited because the last episode we talked about not needing more discipline and not another journal and another plan, but really actually having awareness of when we're dysregulated and regulated. Because when we are dysregulated, we cannot be successful, and when we're regulated, we notice it's not about discipline; it's just about showing up, being yourself, being the version of you you always want to be. Right? You are definitely not able to be it till you see it when you are dysregulated, overwhelmed, stressed out, worrying, spiraling, all that stuff, right? Lesley Logan 2:07  So, how do we regulate ourselves when life gets lifey? Because let me just tell you, life gets lifey every day. Every day, life gets lifey. I was having a really kind of solid, awesome day, and then I got some bad news, and so life got lifey today, on a day when it should just be chill, as just chill. Tuesdays are chill days for me, right? So how how do we not let our nervous system run the show? Because I mean, let me tell you right now, if I let my nervous system run the show after that news, I would not be recording this right now. That's the for sure. But because I was able to understand how I was feeling, I was able to take a moment for myself. I was able to do the things I need to do, so that I could come back here and go. You know, I can do this right now. I can do this right now because this matters, too. This matters as much as the other thing that's bothering me matters, right? And I mean, my goodness, every time we open up our Instagrams or emails, there's something there to derail how we feel about ourselves, about what's possible, all that stuff. Lesley Logan 3:02  So now, since we know what was keeping us stuck, how do we actually shift our biology, our brain, our mood in the middle of a crazy day? It might happen multiple times. How do we do that? So the thing I want to take away from this episode is regulate first, decide second. So you know this. I know you know this. I know this. I know you know this. But just in case you need the reminder, we never send an email or make a pivot or critique ourselves in a dysregulated state, right? When you, have you ever? Oh my God! Why this? What the fuck is this happening? And why is that happening? Why is this person doing this?Lesley Logan 3:39  And you go to respond, and you you know, it's not the response you want to do. You send it, and you already feel regretful because that's not how you are. It's not how you want to be perceived. It's not how you want people to receive that information. So we need to notice, become aware, and then regulate ourselves before making the next decision. I will also say I heard this other thing that could be really helpful is the instant reaction we have is kind of a pattern how we were raised, trained, the thing that got us to adulthood that made us feel safe, and then oftentimes we're just ah I haven't gotten over that I haven't I still have that problem but actually the second thought you have is the person you want to be. It's the person how you want to react. And so if you can, instead of getting stuck on, I don't want to react, that I hate that I'm reacting like that. And instead you go, "Oh, there's just that old brain, my old thing, trying to run the show." Hold on, I do this one thing over here, and then I'm back to being the person I am, the person I want to be receiving that email, the person I want to be receiving that news, right? So, regulate first, decide second. Lesley Logan 4:47  So we need to we need to talk about your internal landscape, right? We got to talk about your autonomic nervous system. So I'm not a scientist, but a simple explanation of our default survival mode. These are simple. Okay, simple. But you've got blazer, the fight or flight, right? You move fast, you breathe shallow, you get a little snappy. That's you. Something happens, you're ready to take action. You're ready to kick some ass. You also can be a freezer, right? You can freeze or fawn, so you can go numb, right? You can say yes to things you hate, like a fawn response. Oh, I'm so sorry. It's my fault. I did that. It's not you. Calming the person down, but taking yourself down with it, right? So we got to understand that's how things can react, right? Those are the simple versions. And if you are having hormonal shifts, then your threshold for stress is lower. And so, things that didn't bother us 10 years ago could bother us now, and that's okay, right? If you are dealing with just other health stuff, sometimes you get activated a little more quickly. Your threshold is lower. So, those of you who already have a lot on your plate, you know, it can be harder to stay regulated. So I just want. I think it's really important to map out what's your internal landscape. What is your go-to when things aren't going well, right? What is the way that you tend to go? Lesley Logan 6:11  In the last episode, I talked about how I will tend to worry about things I can't control, and then focus on all the things we haven't done either. So I'll just like go, and that's not working, and that's not working. That's not working. And Brad, hold on. We were talking about this one plugin that doesn't work, and now you're talking about 10 things we're still working on. Why are we catastrophizing? That's me, right? Really important that once we once you take a second to go, who am I? How do what? What are the signs that I'm not regulated? So that then you can build your regulation toolkit, right? Your real life regulation toolkit. So these are some tools that could work for you. They might not work for you, but I'm giving a few, right? So and if you come up with your own, let the Be It Pod know, so we can share it with other people on FYF episode. But you can have something like a more like a top down tool, a mental cognitive tool. Some people like time boxing, so worry windows, so this is the idea of something comes up that you want to worry about, and you actually just go, "Oh, I'm going to put that at the 1 p.m. I can worry about that at 1 p.m. but right now I'm working on this.Lesley Logan 7:11  That is the idea of parking the car or driving away, postponing the thing, or park and then and and worry, but don't don't try to do think two things at the same time. The thing you're working on and worry. So have some worry windows. That isn't something I could do because I have ADHD and sometimes I you know love to fuck around my calendar. So that's not for me. But it might be for a worry window. And then maybe you don't have it scheduled to worry. But maybe when you start to worry, you're like, you know what? This is gonna be a worry window. So I'm gonna worry about everything right now. I'm going to get all on the table, get out, get out of my heart, get out of my mind. I'm going to set a timer, and now it's done. Right? Something that does help me is a brain dump. So I will just sit down and write down all the things that are on my mind because they're open tabs in my brain, and they're all running, and they are, you know, your computer runs slower when all your tabs are running. So I will go. Okay, hold on. I got too much in my mind. What is everything I think I need to get done? And then you look at the list. holy fuck! That's so many things. No wonder. No wonder I felt dysregulated. No wonder I feel overwhelmed. I'm overwhelmed. There's too many things. I had a girlfriend who took all the things that she had to get done and she gave it to her chatbot, and her chatbot goes, "Well, no wonder you're exhausted and feeling overwhelmed. This is enough work for three years." Lesley Logan 8:27  So those were top down. Here's some bottom-up tools. This is more somatic, right? That's stuff you can do that's mental, cognitive, but also you can actually take action on it. Bottom-up tools are for more body. I think these are really great for when the mind really won't quiet down. So there's a five-second psychological sigh. We talked about this a couple times on the pod. It's two quick inhales through the nose and a long exhale through the mouth. It's just in, in, out, in, in through the nose, out, right? Oh my gosh! You do that a couple times, and it literally resets how your body is. If you're weight training and you do a heavy weightlifting set, if you do that afterwards a couple times, it'll reset the whole body. It's crazy. Also, you can do this: if you take your index finger and thumb together and you breathe in, it's more chest. If you take your middle finger and your thumb and you breathe in, it's more diaphragm. If you take your ring finger and your thumb and you breathe in, it's more stomach. And if you take your pinky and your thumb and you breathe in, it's more root, right? So if you find yourself in that dysregulated state and you're taking short breaths, you can go to your pinky and your thumb and just ground yourself down. Ooh, takes so little time. You can do it in one breath. All right. Lesley Logan 9:38  Another thing you can do is just change the physical temperature, so cold water to the face, right? I actually do love my cold plunge. It is set for a woman in perimenopause. It's not 32 degrees, but I do like it because I don't wake up going, "Oh my god, it's rainbows and butterflies! I'm so excited!" I never get enough sleep. I wish I could get eight hours. I can be in bed for eight and I get six and a half. My body just has a really hard time. Seven is really a sweet spot for me. But I still don't wake up going, "Oh, life is great." But I get in that cold plunge, and okay, I can take on this day. I can take on this day, right? Weighted blankets, a firm hug, right? So I have an eye mask that is weighted that I can just put on my eyes. I don't take naps, but I can just put it on my eyes. Or I have a weighted blanket—we have a link for that that I can find for you guys.Lesley Logan 10:29  But I have this weighted blanket that I just love. I could just wrap it around me, and I'm okay. It's a big hug, because what I don't want when I'm dysregulated is a hug from somebody else, because I don't want their energy. And then this other one I think could be really helpful: it's like a microdose concept. A lot of people think, "I need a spa day, that'll relax me." Oh my god! I'll tell you right now, what won't relax me is a full spa day. I'll be like, "There's so many things I need to be doing right now. I should be doing these things." So when I'm dysregulated, a spa day is not what I need. What I really have found to be helpful is just taking 90 seconds of intentional breathing between calls, walking around my block, it's a little hard in the summertime, but fall through spring, I can. It takes me 12 minutes to walk around my block, 15 if I take the dog, because they like to smell things. Even on the way out the door: "This day sucks." By the time I get around the corner: "All right, I got this. Right, I got this." You just need some things. I have a Sensate. It's this really cool tool that you can put on your chest, and it really helps regulate your nervous system. There's different Hrz of music you can play. I have found that if I work with this one type of music on, I stay quite focused and a little upbeat, so it keeps me positive. I love having it in the background; I get so annoyed when I have to turn it off. So I find that that can be really helpful when sometimes it's not like you're not doing the tools, but there's just so much life lifeing that you need regular, regulating moments, right? Because you're waiting for results from this thing, and you're anticipating this thing, and then there's this going on, and there's that going on. There's so much going on. It's not just one thing once a day that helps you; it's 10 little things that just keep bringing you back. And so this brings us to self-trust, your future self, your Be It Till You See It self. When you take the time to listen to yourself, you can actually hear your intuition, right? You can hear it, and so if you make listening to your intuition a priority, you'll actually want to do it more. And the thing is that when your brain is buzzing with anxiety, that intuition gets drowned out. It sounds like static, and it's not there. So I would really encourage you to spend time trying to hear your inner voice, your inner intuition, so that you get so obsessed with how helpful that is that you'd rather spend time there than in the dysregulated state that probably feels safe because that's probably how you were raised and that felt safe to you. For me, I know that I will do whatever it is I said I was going to do, not because I'm disciplined, but because I have a history of achievements that I have done because I did the thing that I said I was going to do. And so what I will say is, if you haven't taken time to do a data dump of just how much you have achieved and how much of the things you said you would do that you did do, you need to do that because if you don't, then you don't have self-trust. And if you don't have self-trust, you can't become a safe place for yourself. So no wonder you feel dysregulated. No wonder you don't feel successful. No wonder you think you need more discipline, because you haven't taken the time to honor all of the things that you did. We had a really great guest about resume building, and she talked about making sure you're writing down your achievements. We have FYFs on this podcast. You're supposed to send them in, and if you're not going to send them in, at least write them down. Write your wins down, right?Lesley Logan 14:05  My girlfriend wrote down her wins every single week to put them in a jar, and at the end of the year, she took out all 52 and read them, right? And some of them were, oh my god, I forgot I did that. Whatever you need to do to build self trust, you have to do because without that, it's really hard to regulate because you don't have a safe place to come back to, and I'll just say it's really hard to be it till you see it if your current nervous system can't handle baseline stress. So, if you are in a space where just your baseline stress is a lot for you, I really encourage you to take some time to get honest about what is it that you are really responsible for. What can we let go of? What can you say? I know I said yes to this, but I need to delay that. What can we postpone? What boundaries can we put in place so you have a container of stress that you can actually handle? Life is. Stressful. Stress also builds diamonds, guys. So stress is not bad. Stress also builds stronger bones. Stress is how you build stronger muscles. So stress is not bad, but we need to get your nervous system to a space that can handle your baseline stress. And then when it comes to being it till you see it, taking the time to understand who is a version of you that you want to be, and how do they handle it? What do they do? What actions do they take? Can you take any of those actions right now? Can you do a version of that right now? We can't do all of that, but you can do a version of it. If you think that when you have more money, you'll take time off, that's a lie. You're telling yourself there are rich people who never stop working all the time. Have you watched the White Lotus? The Thai, the Thailand one is perfect example of that. Right, these people couldn't get rid of their cell phones. So I just want to say, if you think when I have this, then I'll have less stress and I'll be more regulated, more relaxed. That's not true. To practice for it right now, and sometimes it means saying no. Sometimes it means not talking to some people. Sometimes it means just taking a break. It does until you can get you got to know yourself. You have to have self trust to get to be able to be it till you see it. So, what I like to say is, what's one thing in this episode that you can take action on right now that will actually feel good to you and doesn't feel overwhelming? Is it the worry box? Is it the brain dump is it making a list of all the things that are going on right now that you're supposed to be doing and that you're not, and then seeing what you can get rid of, which you can just go, I can't do that right now. Is it taking time to get back to your inner voice? What is it that you are? Can't do all. Don't tell me I'll do that one too. I'm gonna do that one too. You're just going to overwhelm yourself, babe. You're just going to dysregulate yourself in trying to regulate yourself. So let's not do that. It's also something I really think is important: is regulation is an act of self-parenting, not a chore. It's not a task. It's just taking care of yourself. One other little tidbit I want to give you is maybe what you need to do is just set an alarm three times a day. That ask yourself, "How am I feeling right now? How am I feeling right now? Am I feeling? Do I feel good right now? Do I feel overwhelmed right now? Do I feel excited right now? Do I feel overwhelmed right now. I feel regulated, dysregulated. Just notice that maybe at the end of every day you feel dysregulated. Okay, that's an interesting pattern. That's good awareness. So what's happening between the last time when you felt good and the end of the day? What are you doing too much of? What are you forcing yourself to do?Lesley Logan 17:45  Whether you have ADHD, perimenopause, whether you're in the sandwich generation, there are always tools, but you have to know which tool works best for you. You cannot always bring a hammer to everything. Sometimes we need a drill. Sometimes we need a screwdriver. Sometimes we need a crane. Sometimes we need cement. So, what do you need? Take time this week to figure that out. Otherwise, just taking more advice from all the other people is just gonna overwhelm you and put you in a dysregulated state when you're trying to get better. Isn't that silly, to get dysregulated trying to get self-help? But it happens all the time. It happens all the time with my perfectionists and overachievers, my people pleasers, my firstborn parentified daughters. I see you. We're not trying to be monks. We're just trying to be aware. It's our job to figure out what helps us feel good and helps us take on what we want to be, what we want to do, so we can Be It Till You See It. Thank you for watching. I hope this is helpful. Let me know what your takeaways are. Send this to a friend who needs to hear it. Until next time, Be It Till You See It.Lesley Logan 18:53  TThat's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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In part one of the Regulation Series, Lesley Logan reframes a belief many high achievers cling to: that success comes from more discipline. She explains why feeling stuck is often a biological state rather than a character flaw, and how learning your regulated and dysregulated patterns can affect your decisions. Drawing on perimenopause, late-diagnosed ADHD, and her own overachiever tendencies, she shows how guarding what you let in, from your feed to other people's chaos, keeps you steady. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Why chasing more discipline can keep you stuck in the shame cycle.The real challenges with ADHD and how it affects your regulation.The importance of self-awareness and the need to redefine success.The gateway effect and why a racing brain blocks creativity and confidence.A simple daily noticing practice that shortens your recovery time.Episode References/Links:Ep 400 ft Gay Hendricks - https://beitpod.com/ep400The Big Leap by Gay Hendricks - https://a.co/d/0aNfSwP7Submit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questions If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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What if we didn't actually need to get more discipline and buckle down and get everything right? What if that wasn't what we needed? What if actually what we needed is just some more regulation? Lesley Logan 0:17  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.  Lesley Logan 1:00  Hey, Be It babe. What if success isn't about discipline? What if we didn't actually need to get more discipline and just buckle down and get everything right? What if that wasn't what we needed? What if actually what we needed is just some more regulation?Lesley Logan 1:21  Hi, I'm Lesley Logan. Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast. I am doing a solo episode this week, and it's about regulation. And this comes actually because we've got some great episodes coming out where we're talking about midlife, perimenopause, just all the things that make life life. But I'm increasingly aware of all the podcasts I've done where people ask me what success means to me, and it's really funny because whenever I answer, I'm like, "Oh, I'm doing that right now. Success is being in control of my own schedule." And really, if we think about it, success is just being aware of how we feel, right? And so, look, I will say I was a hustler. I've been someone who's been busy my whole life. As a kid, I remember when my speech therapist met with me, and they were like, "Okay, we want to work with you." I was like, "Oh, I couldn't possibly work with you. I have sewing classes on these days. I have dance class on these days. I have gymnastics on these days. I have softball on these days, I have church." All the things, right? This was the second grade. What are you, about eight years old? And I was so in control of my schedule. And then in high school, I had a job as soon as they let me have a work permit. So I was in sports, I had a job, and I was taking AP classes. Always been a busy person. And what happens is you go through your life, and then systems don't work anymore. The thing is that what we know is that after 36, you're probably in some perimenopausal state. So my lovelies who are younger, yes, it's coming. Those of you who are on the other side, hey, way to go! But things change, and we have an episode on astrologically about how things change, too. And the thing that's so weird about being at a certain age is that you can have achieved so much, and then you can still blame yourself for having not enough discipline, or lacking discipline, or lacking organization, willpower, or motivation when you feel stuck, or hit a wall, or feel overwhelmed. And then what happens is we want to go buy another planner, or we sign up for another course, or we think we just need to wake up earlier, or we go into this weird shame cycle. And then that kind of feels good. I remember someone showed me a meme: "I'm amazing," and then it goes, "I suck. This sucks. I can't do this. I don't know what I'm doing. I'm amazing," right? It's like this creative's cycle. And the reality is sometimes we do that. "Okay, all this stuff is going wrong. I just lack discipline. I'm gonna get another planner. I'm going to sign up for these things.Lesley Logan 4:02  I'm going to do this," and, "Okay, now I feel better," because we took some action, and action always brings clarity, so it does make things feel better. But it doesn't actually, it just becomes part of this cycle that will just keep repeating itself because it's not about the discipline, right? This is not a character flaw you have. When we go into these spirals, it's often just a biological state. It's a dysregulated state, right? And I wanted to say, we will talk about this more, but I am not suggesting that I am regulated all the time. I would not say that, but I do want to acknowledge that awareness is key, and being aware of when these things are happening is the first thing you can do, right? So I'm teaching people how to teach Pilates for the first time, and some people already have been teaching a little bit, but now they're going through comprehensive training with me, and you can't know all that stuff, I mean, I can talk to you about it, but first you just have to be aware that that is the sidekicks and what you're seeing happen. You have to start there, right? So that's where we're gonna start. Lesley Logan 5:09  There are two versions of you, my love. There is a regulated you, and that you, you know that you, that's the you that is calm and decisive, that does take the messy action or the first next step. And it's almost like people are throwing tennis balls at you and you're whacking them back, right? Whacking them back. I love a regulated me. I'm like, "Woo! My inbox is at zero. You need that? I'll get that to you, no problem." I don't go, "Oh my god, I need that thing right now." I'm like, "Oh yeah, no problem. Here you go. Here's this. How about I get you these things?" The regulated me is not delulu, but definitely at ease, able to take on hard things, excited by what I'm saying yes to, not annoyed by requests from people that are last fucking minute. The regulated me is like, "Oh, you want this? I can take this on. Oh yeah, no, I'll go do that. Oh, I'll do seven more new things." The regulated me just feels at ease with things and doesn't have this like "what the fuck," right? It's so funny when my husband freaks out about the internet in his office, and I'm like, "Oh my god, can you calm down? I can hear it across the house." And then of course there's the other side, right? There's a dysregulated you. There's a dysregulated me. The one that gets overwhelmed, trapped in task paralysis, mindlessly scrolling, or oversnacking, or doing seven other things besides the thing you need to do, or I'm the one yelling, "Why is this computer not working?" And so, can you think about a time like that? I'll just say, when I get dysregulated, a few things happen all at the same time: my sleep goes bad, and then because my sleep goes bad, I don't really feel good in my movement, and so I tell myself, "Oh, I don't need to move because I didn't sleep very well." That's probably true, but then I'll just start work early. Wrong, wrong, always the wrong answer. I should not do that. I should do something else that is for me to regulate myself so that when I do go to work at the normal time, I would actually see all the things as the regulated version of me, right? But of course, now we're tired. Now we didn't fill our cup, and now we're seeing things and it's like, "Why doesn't this person understand that? Why is this why it's gone?" When you feel yourself like, "Why are they? Why is that person? Why is this person?" When you're upset in the car in traffic, it's a dysregulated you, babe, right? And it's not that you need more discipline.Lesley Logan 7:30  No, it's a biological state, and what we need is to figure out what our regulated and dysregulated states look like, feel like, sound like, smell like, just noting the things, right, so that we can be aware. Because until we are aware, we can't change anything, right? And I just want to also add, my loves who are getting late diagnosed ADHD: hello, I see you. Late diagnosed auDHD. The reality is I thought I was going crazy. I was like, "Why all of a sudden so frustrated by all these things? Why am I getting irritated about this thing? Is this perimenopause? Because this sucks." And when I found out, it's like, "No, this is my brain's operating system." My ADHD people, you will just go buy another journal. That is not the next thing you should do because you've got a stack of them you don't use, but you're like, "Oh, what a pretty journal that is." I have pretty journals that are just for decor, I don't even try to write in them anymore. I am aware that I'm buying them just for the look of it. But our nervous system is functioning differently and it does things outside of what we often desire, like a dopamine high. I will tell you right now, there's a lot of things that I do just for the dopamine of it all, and having awareness around that really does help. But our brain is also three steps ahead of everyone, right? Like my psychiatrist said, "I can help you focus, but I can't keep you from saying yes to things you don't have time for." And so, really understanding yourself is one of the most important things I could say you need to do in order to feel successful, right? Because again, we could define success as whatever it is. But if you are dysregulated, you're always going to feel like you're not successful, right? If you're unaware of how you operate and what you need, right? So systems really, really work, my ADHD people. I know you don't want them, but they really, really work.Lesley Logan 9:24  But also, even if you don't have ADHD, if you are balancing perimenopause with kids and your aging parents, and you run your own business, or you work for a high-stress business, or all of us in this life, there's a lot of life going on. And I just want to say, I don't have children, and my parents are independent right now, so I have more time than my friends who are older than me who don't have kids, but their parents are aging and have more needs. My friends are in a different place in their life about what they're thinking about and planning for versus me. They are getting ready for retirement; I am still building that. So we often compare ourselves to other people in our life, and we have to be really mindful of that, right? I also don't get to blame myself, "Well, you don't have kids, so you should have time for this." That's not healthy either, my loves who don't have children. We have to be honest, all of us have so many different responsibilities, and if we are operating from a regulated state when we're answering questions or answering requests, we will actually give a better answer to those things so that we actually can stay regulated. But when we are in dysregulation and trying to do all these things, one, we're not doing it out of a place of love. That is for sure not happening. There is no love in a dysregulated state, and we start to just get overwhelmed by the mundane, the things that we have to do every day anyway, right? So I just want to say that because I know that there's a lot of people who just have a lot, and they're like, "Okay, I just need one more thing that will make this easier." There probably isn't, but if you can be aware of what you need to do to feel like you're coming from a regulated state, then you are going to be able to make decisions from a better place. And sometimes those decisions are to say no, right?Lesley Logan 11:11  And then those of you who love Pilates, I do want to bring a little Pilates analogy here. When we do our Pilates, if we are just doing choreography, that will be like a dysregulated state. For example, you're doing the 100 and the carriage is bouncing everywhere, or you're on the mat and your head is bouncing everywhere. That is not regulated. That is not connected. But you're doing the 100 and the carriage doesn't move, or you're doing the 100 and everything feels strong. It's hard. Life is hard, but it feels possible, and I think that that is where I'm hoping we can all wrap our brains around. Life isn't going to feel easy and then hard and then easy and hard. It can actually feel hard all the time, but possible, like you're in control of how you feel and how you operate in that, right? So I've been mentioning regulate and dysregulate, but maybe we need to talk about what it looks like. A lot of people might think dysregulated is just a temper tantrum, and I have those. Sometimes I'm like, "I just want to have a temper tantrum like a three-year-old. There's something that feels really good about screaming right now." But it also can be hyperarousal, like fight or flight, right? Compulsively overworking or micromanaging people, or having this invisible clock of anxiety, you're feeling rushed to do things, but you made up the deadline, or there is no deadline. I will also say, if you read The Big Leap, we talk about that book a lot on this podcast, Episode 400 is the author, when I am dysregulated, I will tend to worry about things I have no control over, and then I will also look for all the things that haven't been done. These are all bad, by the way: "That's all going to happen, and none of this is done." None of those things are done, but that doesn't have anything to do with what could go wrong here, and has nothing to do with the thing we need to work on, right? But I will just pile it on. You could have hypoarousal, though, that's a freeze or fawn state. Procrastination disguised as researching, or people-pleasing to avoid conflict, or taking up a couch state, right, and going, "Oh, I'm just percolating." So you can be dysregulated and look calm, but really you're not working on the thing you want to be doing, right? Does that make sense?Lesley Logan 13:31  So I sometimes will play a video game when I am feeling out of sorts because there's something about moving these colors around that helps bring my heart rate down and bring me into a different place, and then I can go, "Okay, hold on. What am I avoiding?" So I just want to say it's okay to end up doing those things, but being aware that what you're doing is what you're doing is really, really important. I think a lot of times we go through life very unaware, right? In Pilates, if I tell someone to pull their shoulders back and they're as far back as they can go, that person is unaware that their shoulders are very much forward, and they don't have the ability to pull them back. So I have to first make them aware of what back means because they think back is what they're doing, but it's not. And then I have to help them, right? And there's a perfectionist shutdown cycle that also happens, right? You set some impossible standard, hi, I see you, it's this all-or-nothing mindset, then you can't meet it, then you panic, and then you just shut down and give up. And you often don't tell anybody about that thing that you're going to do, because then you can go through the cycle and you don't have to let anyone know. Yeah, I see you. I've been there. I understand. "I'm gonna go to the gym every single day." Then the first day you hit traffic, there's a new construction site, you get there and you forgot your pants, so now you can't do anything, and you're like, "This didn't work at all."Lesley Logan 15:11  And then you shame and blame yourself, then you have a shit day, and you didn't do enough reflection on how to solve the problem for tomorrow. So then tomorrow comes, and you're like, "I can't do it. It's not fun." So here's what we have to do: we actually have to redefine the goal of what we're trying to achieve in regulation, and also probably what success is for us, right? So I wanted to say that being regulated does not mean that we are a monk who never gets upset, that is crazy and unattainable. It's unattainable. Come on, unattainable, right? I have seen monks, and I am impressed by them, but you guys, they have nothing else to do but be regulated and calm as fuck. They have nothing else to do. Someone else makes sure that they are fed. Someone makes sure that they have clothing. Someone makes sure that they have a roof overhead. They have nothing to do but pray and meditate. You, my love, are not a monk. You have so many things to do on top of it. So it's not about being someone who never gets upset. Lesley Logan 16:14  And it's also important that we talk about success and being regulated as not the absence of triggers. I don't like when people say, "You triggered me," because that's not real unless someone actually knows what your triggers are and does it on purpose. But yes, you can be activated. That's how my therapist would call it:, activated over triggered. But you can be activated by something I say or do, and that doesn't mean you are unsuccessful or that you're not a regulated person. No, it's actually the speed at which you acknowledge it and then recover, right? Today I had some bad news that came before I hit record on this, and it really sent me into a state, and I saw myself wanting to spiral worse than the thing that I was made aware of, right? And I was like, "Hold on, hold on, we don't have to go there. That has nothing to do with the thing that's making us sad right now, and we can feel those feelings, take a moment, and think of all the things we can do to maybe be part of solving that problem." And also, it wasn't my problem to solve, so I really actually just have to feel my feelings and send some good hope, and then I have to go back to the thing, right? Because if I let this thing derail my whole day, then I'm even more behind. And then what am I going to do? Probably go through that shame perfectionist cycle, right? Now, if, what was going on, I had control of taking action and taking action would be the step to take. And I might still be behind, but I actually can acknowledge that was because I was taking action to solve the problem. But it's the speed at which you actually acknowledge the difference, right? I have somebody in my mentorship program who's like, "I want to stop negative self-talk." You're probably not going to stop that, but what you can do is get faster at catching that you are doing it, right? So how long does it take you? Right now, is it taking you 20 minutes, 10 minutes to realize you're doing some negative self-talk? Okay, can we get that to be a little shorter, and then a little shorter, and then eventually you say the first line and you're like, "Shut up!" Right, that kind of thing. How quickly can you recover if you know what your activators are? What boundaries can you put in place? Can't put boundaries in place? That person or that thing is going to activate you. Okay, how quickly can you acknowledge that and go through recovery so that it doesn't derail you, so it doesn't put you in a dysregulated state? It can still upset you, can still frustrate you, you can still feel your feelings. But to literally take you off your course, my love, that's such a bummer, right? That'd be such a bummer because then the things that you're here on this planet to do, you won't be able to do, right? Lesley Logan 18:44  There's another way to redefine the goal. It's called the gateway effect. You cannot access creativity, strategic decision making, or genuine confidence when your body thinks a tiger is chasing it. Our lizard brain goes into flight or fight, or is searching out for a tiger that's gonna eat it. When that's where your brain is at, you can't be creative. Impossible! You're trying to survive, trying to survive. So I see this a lot. At the time that I'm recording this, there's a lot of people who are upset in my industry about something that was posted that I know nothing about, nor did I seek out because I do not care, because going and seeking that out would just dysregulate me. Of course I would get upset by what I saw, and then it would make me sad about people, and then it would make me worry about how this could negatively affect my business, and then it would make me worry about my financials, and then it would make me worry about my future, and then it would make me go, "Why am I even trying this new thing when people could be so shitty about it?" So I don't go look at that stuff, but I was made aware. And the thing that I found was that so many people were fighting me on seeing the thing because I wrote this post about being in a state of practice and not judgment, knowing why you teach and not caring who is the person who trained you. And I noticed how many people wanted to fight me on how it needs to be louder for those people who need to hear it. I'm like, "Well, they don't want to hear it. They're in a state the don't want to hear. Why would they listen to me? They don't want to be there. They want to be in their awful world." And it's interesting that you want to be in that awful world with them. You're letting them do that to you when you could just put blinders on and go, "That's for those people over there." That seems so crazy. Why would I even give them any attention when I have an impact to make over here?Lesley Logan 20:32  So if you keep opening up your socials and the things that you see are causing your brain to go into "a tiger is chasing me," you've got to change your algorithm, my love. That world is shit, right? I get that, and you know what? I really struggled in the last couple of years with promoting things that will help people because there are people dying, there's genocides happening all the time, and so every time I open my phone, "This person fucking did this. These people died." It's not that I don't care about that stuff; it's that I have to make sure I only see that stuff after I've done the things that I can do, because I actually don't get to decide who the leaders are in those cases, because I voted as hard as I could, you know, and I have to go, "What can I do?" So I walk dogs for a shelter. I stay informed in politics, but before and after work only, so that I do not feel like a tiger is chasing me, right? I think it's just really important to understand, babe: I don't think you need more discipline. I think you need to be aware of when you're being dysregulated and what's dysregulating you, so that you can do the things you want to do. Lesley Logan 21:46  So on our next episode, we are going to do some practical regulation and some self-trust. You know I always like to do information and then strategy, so that's what I'm gonna do. So my love, until Thursday, can you do me a favor and just notice your states throughout the day? Notice when you feel it's so easy to tackle that inbox, and when it feels so hard. Just notice. Don't do anything about it, just notice. My love, that's your practice on being a recovering overachiever. All right. Please do me a huge favor: if our episodes are helping you in any way, can you please share them with a friend who needs to hear it?Lesley Logan 22:23  Leave a review, tag me in sharing it so I can see what you loved about it. Whatever it is, it would really mean the world to me. And if you want to support this podcast in any way aside from leaving a review or sharing with a friend, you can be an OPC member. Yep, that's one of the best things you could do, because at OPC, we are a place where you get to practice moving your body, pouring into yourself, listening to it, understanding when you feel great, and just getting to know yourself so much, being curious, being in community, having some accountability, not more discipline, having fun, finishing optional. So go to onlinepilatesclasses.com to check out our membership options. And if that doesn't work for you, then thanks for being here. Thanks for being you. Thanks for downloading this episode. Thanks for listening all the way through. You're amazing. Until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 23:13  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 23:55  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 24:00  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 24:05  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 24:12  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals. Brad Crowell 24:15  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Onwards! Or more accurately - downwards! Because we're continuing the saga of early gold digging around the farm Langlaagte, and the other farms like Turfontein, it is 1886, hundreds of treasure hunters have descended on the empty veld just south of the Witwatersrand Ridge. First a quick note about Kimberley, where the mining magnates were locked in a struggle for supremacy trying to secure control over the lucrative industry. As you heard last episode, one of these, JB Robinson, had run into cash difficulties but was determined to travel to the Witwatersrand to assess for himself just how much gold could be mined in the Main Reef discovered by the two Georges. He'd borrowed 20 000 pounds from another Kimberley magnate Alfred Beit, and along with Beit's partner Maurice Marcus, launched the Robinson Syndicate with a total capital of 30 000 pounds. Then he leapt aboard a stagecoach for the gruelling four day trip between Kimberley and Potchefstroom where he arrived on the 22 July 1886. When this archetype converged on the Witwatersrand in 1886, they encountered a landscape defined by absolute physical indifference. The main reef was not an easy vein of rich quartz waiting for a prospector's spade as you've heard. It was a mysterious sloping and tilted sheet of ancient pyritic conglomerate, the banket, plunging deep into the earth's crust. On the surface, the highveld in July is icy at night, sometimes sleet blows when the antartic fronts charge up from the south, sweeping the ridge with handfulls of pain. When Robinson pitched up and set about breaking the land to fit his intent, it was a virgin of veld, clean and wide open. Within a decade the land had been utterly transformed by thousands of men forcing their way along the sloping banket, intent on finding treasure. JB Robinson spent a few days crunching through the conglomerate and realised that this reef was like no-other. How deep it went was still unknown, but that it was extensive was obvious. Petronella Oosthuizen, the widow, owned Portion D of LAnglaagte Farm, and her fortunes were indeed improving by the day. Robinston made a b-line straight for her house, and secured mining and water rights from the widow on July 27th 1886, paying 450 pounds with an additional option to buy the farm outright for 6000 pounds. In September the canny investor did just that, and also negotiated mining and water rights from the owner of Langlaagte Portion B, Anna de Beer Mulder. That cost Robinson one thousand pounds. Robinson later faced criticisms and a whispering campaign, it was rumoured that he had used his charm to seduce Petronella Oosthuizen before negotiating her land away. Petronella was paid the equivalent of 7 million Rand for her land — not a little — but in comparison to it's value, not a lot either. But he didn't stop there. Remember Robinson had a war chest of 30 000 pounds and was determined to buy up as much land as he could. He purchased fifty percent of a portion of Vogelstruisfontein Farm, the other half was owned by prospector Jan Bantjies as well as 50 percent of the Turfontein Farm — next door to Langlaagte. By snapping up the 12 000 hectares, Robinson was the first of a wave of Kimberley's rich who would make the journey north to the Witwatersrand. The second wave included Cecil John Rhodes. There is a bit of a myth about his involvement, that he was a late comer to the scene. That is inaccurate, if you cast your memory back to a far earlier episode, I explained how Rhodes had bought the farm Roodepoort near the gold bearing reefs more than ten years earlier — there it was a purchase based on a whim. A bit of luck you'd say. Rhodes had been present that day in April 1886 when Kimberley shop keeper Alexander had crushed conglomerate brought to Kimberley from the Witwatersrand, he had seen the public panning demonstration that revealed a gleaming line of wealth and was impressed as was JB Robinson.

Protecting your attention is not the same as not caring; it's what keeps the work you love possible. Lesley Logan opens August from the road with an honest look at the fighting that keeps breaking out in the Pilates industry, and why she keeps it out of her feed on purpose. She explains what gets lost when instructors tear each other down instead of pointing clients toward each other's strengths. She also shares the response to her teacher training announcement, a listener win over procrastination, and this week's mantra. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Why a curated algorithm protects the work Lesley came here to do.The industry hoopla that resurfaces every couple of years, and who profits.A teacher training announcement Lesley made without expecting the response.One listener win about procrastination, plus this week's closing mantra.Episode References/Links:UpLift Waitlist - xxll.co/uwsOPC Summer Tour - https://opc.me/eventseLevate Mentorship Program - https://lesleylogan.co/elevateSubmit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questions If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentCheck out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentBe in the know with all the workshops at OPC https://workshops.onlinepilatesclasses.com/lp-workshop-waitlistBe It Till You See It Podcast Survey https://pod.lesleylogan.co/be-it-podcasts-surveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates Mentorship https://lesleylogan.co/elevate/FREE Ditching Busy Webinar https://ditchingbusy.com/Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gLesley Logan website https://lesleylogan.co/Be It Till You See It Podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjogqXLnfyhS5VlU4rdzlnQProfitable Pilates https://profitablepilates.com/about/Follow Us on Social Media:Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lesley.logan/The Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gFacebook https://www.facebook.com/llogan.pilatesLinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesley-logan/The OPC YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@OnlinePilatesClasses Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  It's Fuck Yeah Friday.Brad Crowell 0:01  Fuck yeah!Lesley Logan 0:02  Get ready for some wins. Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast, where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained 1000s of people around the world, and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity, and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guests will bring bold, executable, intrinsic, and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and be it till you see it. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:48  Well, hello, BE IT babe. How are you? Happy Friday! Oh my god, it is August. Oof! I'm on tour right now. And if you're new to this podcast, hi! On Fridays, we keep it short. We keep it sweet. It's a way for those who listen to feel like we have some time together, and I get to share wins of yours. You get to hear some wins of mine, and you also get to, I don't know, hopefully feel like you're not alone in some things. So, if you are in our communities for eLevate or for our Agency, we have an "I Need a Moment," and you're allowed to have a moment, but you have to have a win if you have a moment. And I am very notorious for coming in after you've poured your whole heart out and no win was posted. I'm like, "You know, where's the win?" And it's not because we're looking for toxic positivity, but it's because we are trying to see that even in the muck there is a lotus flower.Lesley Logan 1:35  So, at the time that I'm recording this, there's this big thing going on that I continue to be made aware of, even though I changed my algorithm a long, long, long time ago to not see a lot of Pilates stuff. So if that shocks you, it's not because I don't care. It's because I care so much that when I see negative crap on the internet, it just makes me sad. It makes me not actually want to do the thing that I am here to do on this planet, and so I just don't. I don't deal with it. And I have some really great friends who are also in the industry who also have their algorithms set that way. So if you're seeing that me and some of these people are not participating in this debate or didn't participate in the stuff going on last month, it's not because we don't care. It's because we intentionally don't let that stuff in because it would keep us from loving what we do. And so the thing is, I'm actually just so tired. I've been teaching Pilates for almost 20 years, and every couple of years there's this big hoopla of how not good enough some people are, and how much of assholes other people are, and blah, blah, blah. And then we act like it's only in our industry that this happens. Bullshit happens everywhere. People tear each other apart all the fucking time. You all know something? This is why a bunch of stock market bros own a bunch of Pilates studios, because we're all busy tearing each other down instead of focusing on what we're really great at and then making sure that we know who's really great at things we're not, and then sharing that with other people. That's what I have to say about that. So I'm just tired of it. I'm so over it. And if you're, you know, this is where I'm voicing myself.Lesley Logan 3:07  But my win, since I'm not going to leave you with that, if you're like, "What is going on in the Pilates industry?" It doesn't fucking matter. It doesn't matter what it is because in two years it'll be happening again, something similar and not the same at the same time. But the reality is people want us to fight with each other because then we are not busy focusing on making the impact we want to make, which would actually change people's lives and also yours at the same time.Lesley Logan 3:31  So my win is that last month I announced my teacher training program on UpLift publicly. I announced it on Instagram and it got so much love. Like even with all the shit that was going on in the Plaza industry, like my post about my teacher training program got so much love. So not a single person going, "Who the fuck do you think you are? It's only people saying, "Like I'm so glad you're doing this. Finally, a program I can refer people to. I want in on this. I want to learn this. I want to do it. And it just made me so happy because that's not at all what I expected. I kind of was just making the announcement to make the announcement. To be completely honest, I did not expect hundreds of people to go on the wait list. So I'm just well pleased as punch. I really, really am.Lesley Logan 4:15  Okay. So, oh, if you want information on it, you can get on the waitlist at xxll.co/uws. If you have any problems with that, there is an internet provider that can suck it because they are assholes. It's this one internet provider that drives me crazy when it comes to my short links. And so, if you have the internet provider, hit me up. I have a special link just for you. It's just not very pretty.Lesley Logan 4:38  All right, let's get into your win. Your win first one up is gonna be from @hopesewell, " Marked some things off my to-do list that I've been procrastinating on." That is massive. That is so massive. When I knock something off a to-do list that I've been procrastinating on, I am like the most proud of myself. And also, sometimes because of my ADHD, I realize, well that didn't take very long at all. It was on my wait list longer than the half life that it took me to do it. So I feel you, Hope. Thank you so much. I know you're a big OPC fan, and I get to see you on the summer tour. I'm so, so excited.Lesley Logan 5:11  So thank you for sending your win in. You guys can send your wins into beitpod.com/questions. That's also where you can send in any topics you want us to do our solo episodes on or guests you want us to feature. This podcast is here for you. It's not just for hearing me talk to myself. I talk to myself all the time. I don't need another outlet. So definitely send in what you need.Lesley Logan 5:30  And your mantra before I let you go is: I honor and cherish my life. I honor and cherish my life. I honor and cherish my life. Be It babe, I hope you do. That's the only way you could be it till you see it, anyways. Honor and cherish it. All right. Until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 5:48  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 6:31  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 6:35  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 6:40  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 6:47  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 6:50  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

In this recap episode, Lesley Logan and Brad Crowell revisit Lesley's conversation with Amy Dickens, a joy advocate, author of 101 Ways to Spread Joy, and creator of Joyfully You. Amy found joy after years of mental health struggles and turned it into a practice for nervous system regulation. The hosts get honest about what it costs to stay positive inside a negative industry, and why joy is something you build rather than something you wait for. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:The importance of being the joy you wish to see in the world.How relationships act as the key predictor of joy and happiness.Building community as a learnable skill to combat the loneliness epidemic.Miracle walks as an active practice for noticing and maintaining joy.Calendar blocking to prioritize scheduling connection and joy before work.Episode References/Links:UpLift's Waitlist - xxll.co/uwseLevate - lesleylogan.co/elevateOPC Summer Tour (Powered by Balanced Body) - https://opc.me/tourOPC Pilates Flashcards – https://opc.me/flashcardsOPC Pilates Posters – https://opc.me/postersNevada SPCA – https://nevadaspca.orgOPC YouTube Live – https://onlinepilatesclasses.comVaccinate Your Family – https://vaccinateyourfamily.com101 Ways to Spread Joy - https://www.livejoyfullyyou.com/101waystospreadjoySubmit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questions If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentCheck out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentBe in the know with all the workshops at OPC https://workshops.onlinepilatesclasses.com/lp-workshop-waitlistBe It Till You See It Podcast Survey https://pod.lesleylogan.co/be-it-podcasts-surveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates Mentorship https://lesleylogan.co/elevate/FREE Ditching Busy Webinar https://ditchingbusy.com/Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gLesley Logan website https://lesleylogan.co/Be It Till You See It Podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjogqXLnfyhS5VlU4rdzlnQProfitable Pilates https://profitablepilates.com/about/Follow Us on Social Media:Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lesley.logan/The Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gFacebook https://www.facebook.com/llogan.pilatesLinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesley-logan/The OPC YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@OnlinePilatesClasses Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  It's the idea of, like, okay, your house burnt down, so at least I get to design that master bedroom that I wanted. Like, that would be a toxic positivity thing. Finding joy is the neighbors that came over and showed how much they love and support you, and brought you new items and new things. I think finding joy or being the joy doesn't mean that you're not feeling feelings. It just means that you are not hyper-focused on all the shit.Lesley Logan 0:25  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Brad Crowell 1:08  Take it away.Lesley Logan 1:09  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap, where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the delightful combo I had with Amy Dickens in our last episode. If you haven't yet, listen to that interview. Feel free to pause this now. Go back because you missed out on some joy stuff. Like it was all joyful. Super joy. Brad Crowell 1:23  Yes you did. Lesley Logan 1:24  So, if you want to miss on joyLesley Logan 1:26  It was delightful. Lesley Logan 1:27  You can listen to this first to see how much joy is in it, and then get that joy intrigue fixed by listening to her episode after. Today is August 6th. It's a day after my brother's birthday, 2026, and it kicks off.   Brad Crowell 1:39  Clutter Awareness WeekLesley Logan 1:41  Which I'm sure the people who have clutter also hate that it's kicking off on a Thursday, but that's how they did it, which takes place annually, shining a light on the often overlooked issue of physical and mental clutter. Ooh, mental clutter too. This week encourages individuals to identify, confront, and overcome disorganization in their lives. Join the movement by decluttering a space, donating unused items, or learning new organizational strategies. So, I am super excited to say that I have, by the time you listen to this, taken all of our old dish towels, studio cleaning towels, old towels, Brad doesn't like that, but I'm taking old towels, all to the SPCA, the Nevada SPCA, because they will use them, and I got myself some new microfiber towels for the studio. And I'm gonna find kitchen towels that actually soak up shit because the ones we have, I don't know if you noticed, Brad, they just move it around. They just move the liquid around. There is something wrong with these towels, so they are gone. I'm taking them away. Time for some matching cute towels.Brad Crowell 2:45  That is funny. Yeah, you're not wrong, and it's interesting because sometimes it's easy to get stuck in cleaning just so that you can focus, and then... Lesley Logan 2:55  Well that's definitely ADHD...Brad Crowell 2:57  But then other times I go through not cleaning, and it just piles up. Things just pile up. Lesley Logan 3:02  I'm looking at a basket, and I was looking at it before we started this call. Before I knew what the week announcement was, and I was like, "This should be a box. Why is this an open basket? And why is this basket here?" And then if we take, you guys cannot see because what you see is very strategic, but this podcast room has become Monica's closet. I'm just gonna say it. If you know Monica from Friends, this is Monica's closet. And by the time you hear this, I'm going to say that we have done something to it because it's time.Brad Crowell 3:34  It's time to declutter.Lesley Logan 3:35  Alright. So tell us. Make sure you send a win in of what you decluttered this week. Send in a win to the beitpod.com/questions. Okay, really quick, as you have heard, the rumors are true. I created a teacher training program for new teachers or somewhat trained teachers who want to study Pilates the way I teach it. So if you like the style of my Pilates instruction, you like my tutorials, my flashcards, you want to go through my training. It's called UpLift, the capital L. And the educators for this program are people who trained with me through my mentorship program, eLevate. And so, if you are a comprehensively trained teacher and you want to study directly with me, then you want to do eLevate. If you actually just want to train through a training that I've created and that I'm very intimately involved in, but my eLevate grads will be teaching, you want to go through UpLift. So, UpLift's waitlist for teachers and people who want to be in that training is xxll.co/uws, and if youBrad Crowell 4:29  Yeah, that's just to also make a distinction, UpLift is for people who are not yet teachers.Lesley Logan 4:34  Not yet teachers. However.Brad Crowell 4:35  But eLevate is are for comprehensively trained teachers already.Lesley Logan 4:40  Yes, and I have to keep saying this because it's important. The industry is very unique. There are people who've only been trained on Mat or Reformer or Mat and Reformer, and so if you want to do a comprehensive training, you could go through UpLift because you cannot go through eLevate because you have to have had a comprehensive training to do eLevate. Yes. If you are already a comprehensively trained instructor and you're like, "Oh, I want to learn your teaching style, but it doesn't have to be directly with you. I prefer something in person." You could be a bridge participant in UpLift. So it's definitely for people who want to become a Pilates instructor. But there are ways where you're already doing some sort of teaching that you may prefer UpLift to eLevate. Those of you who are asking me how you can be an educator for eLevate, I love you. Thank you. I'm so glad you're so excited. You actually need to go through eLevate. So the actual proper channel is to go through eLevate, and so you want to go to lesleylogan.co/elevate. If you just want to study with me and not teach UpLift, you can still go through eLevate, but you have to be a comprehensively trained instructor. Boom. There, we did it. Okay.Brad Crowell 5:41  Slayed.Lesley Logan 5:41  We are on summer tour. We are on the road. It's happening. I don't even know what day, we must be in Lawrence, Kansas, or we might be in Nashville today. Hold on.Brad Crowell 5:49  The 6th. I think we're in Lawrence or Knoxville. Let's see.Lesley Logan 5:53  Well, I don't know what day the tour starts, and I actually haven't looked, but we do start in Denver. That sold out. Lawrence, Kansas, that's sold out. Then it's Nashville. Then it's Knoxville, a rooftop location for the mat class. It's going to be so freaking cool. Then it's Greensboro, North Carolina. I know we have a day off before we go to Augusta, Georgia. Then Atlanta, Georgia.Brad Crowell 6:13  We're in Lawrence on A ugust 6.Lesley Logan 6:14  August 6. So this is Lawrence, Kansas. Second day of the tour is August 6. Oh, we start on my brother's birthday. There we go. That'll be easy to remember. So there is, at the time of this recording, still space in stops 3 all the way to 14, but spaces are very much running out in Atlanta, Huntsville, Birmingham, Jackson, and Tucson. In fact, they might already be gone by the time you listen to this. But there is some good space in Nashville, Knoxville, Greensboro, Augusta, Frisco, and El Paso. So in El Paso, we're going to be teaching in Spanish. I mean, I'm going to have a translator. I don't know how to teach in Spanish. I know how to understand if she's saying what I said in Spanish. So don't worry, I can hear that. So our tour is powered by Balanced Body, which means we have gift certificates and prizes to give away. We have the Contrology equipment to bring in, so you can try it out. We have a discount, something you can use to buy your own equipment. Sure. So come on down, opc.me/tour. And then if you're new here, don't forget to check out our Pilates flashcards and our posters. Our flashcards are amazing, and you can buy them from us and support an amazing small company, and part of the money that you spend goes to the Nevada SPCA, which helps dogs, cats, guinea pigs, chinchillas, and bunnies get well taken care of till they find their furever home, as they would say, furever home. And if you want our posters, we have those, too.Brad Crowell 7:38  I caught that (inaudible).Lesley Logan 7:39  Yeah, well, you just looked around like, "What did she say?" So, opc.me/flashcards, opc.me/posters. Look how easy we make those links. What is not easy is if you want to send your win in to celebrate that you got those posters or flashcards, you have to send it into beitpod.com/questions. All right, we no longer take your questions here. We do those on Sundays on YouTube, on our YouTube Live, so come to that. Our OnlinePilatesClasses.com has a YouTube channel, and we go live every Sunday chatting with you. So instead, we bring up a charity that's topical for the time. So what is it, Brad?Brad Crowell 8:15  That's right. All right, this month is Vaccination or Immunization Awareness Month.Lesley Logan 8:19  Vaccination or Immunization Awareness Month.Brad Crowell 8:22  That's what it is. So August, we're focusing on Vaccinate Your Family. Kicking off our immunization spotlight, we're featuring Vaccinate Your Family, a nonprofit with serious roots. It was founded in 1991 by former First Lady Rosalynn Carter.Lesley Logan 8:34  Love the Carters.Brad Crowell 8:36  And former Arkansas First Lady Betty Bumpers.Lesley Logan 8:41  It looks like "Ladybug" if you go too fast because it says "First Lady Betty Bumpers," and I just read "Ladybug."Brad Crowell 8:46  That's amazing. Originally as Every Child By Two, renamed Vaccinate Your Family in 2018. Lesley Logan 8:52  The goal was to like get people vaccinated by two years old.Brad Crowell 8:55  Its mission is to protect people of all ages from vaccine-preventable diseases by reaching everyone in the U.S. with science-based information and a real pathway to immunization, including a tool that helps families figure out how to actually pay for vaccines and a grassroots advocacy program that trains everyday people to share their stories. In a year where measles has come roaring back across our entire country, the work matters more than usual. And this month we're featuring a very well-vetted...Lesley Logan 9:22  YesBrad Crowell 9:23  ...charity. I mean, they don't get more vetted than this. They have a 92% score and four-star rating from Charity Navigator, plus a Gold Seal of Transparency from Candid. Whether you're a parent, a caregiver, or someone who just wants families to have clear answers and real access, this one is absolutely worth a look. Find out more and support them at vaccinateyourfamily.com.Lesley Logan 9:42  And I think this is really important because it's a really weird time right now where people are trusting influencers over actual science-based information, and that can be very harmful. Not just for the people who get misinformation, but also for the people that that misinformation negatively affects, right? Like there are people who believe that these vaccines are causing autism out in the world. Autism has been here before vaccines. It's not a thing you catch. It's a thing that's part of how your body and brain all work together. And when people spread that misinformation, it negatively affects people who are autistic in a way that's unfair and unwarranted and awful. But the other reality is there are people who cannot get vaccinated for whatever reason. Like there are people who are either not old enough for certain vaccines or their system is going through something. They have cancer or things like that, and so they cannot. And so as a community, we are supposed to be doing this together. And because of misinformation about vaccines that has been debunked too many times, the U.S. is no longer measles-free, and in fact, they think that we'll never get it back. And it's a sad thing because measles does ruin your entire immune system, including things you were already immunized from.Brad Crowell 10:59  And you could die.Lesley Logan 11:00  Yeah, you can. And if you want to see a real-life example of how they educate and talk about that and be entertained, watch The Pitt. Yep, very interesting episode about that. Maybe you don't die, but maybe the person that got exposed to it in those first four days that you had it...Brad Crowell 11:12  Yeah.Lesley Logan 11:13  ...couldn't be vaccinated. I mean...Brad Crowell 11:14  When they did, I can't remember if it was smallpox or measles back in the day. The pitch was not everybody can get the vaccine.Lesley Logan 11:22  Yeah.Brad Crowell 11:23  So therefore, it's incumbent on us to give a shit about our neighbors who can't get it.Lesley Logan 11:28  It was polio.Brad Crowell 11:29  I think it was polio.Lesley Logan 11:30  Your great uncle got polio.Brad Crowell 11:31  You're right. I think it was polio. So not everyone can get the vaccine because of immunity stuff. So the best thing for the community is for everyone who can get the vaccine to get the vaccine so that we are not carriers or passing things along. A nd it protects others.Lesley Logan 11:49  Well, and also it's really interesting. Dr. Divya on Instagram did this whole thing about the best peptide you can get, the best peptide. And she talked about how amazing peptides are, what peptides are, how they come from your body. GLP-1, the P stands for peptide, and everyone in the world is super into peptides. And she said the best peptide is a vaccination.Brad Crowell 12:09  Right. B ecause that's what they fucking are.Lesley Logan 12:14  That's what they are.Brad Crowell 12:16  Right. Yep.Lesley Logan 12:16  It's hard. It's fucking hard. Anyway, there's a lot of bad stuff. I understand there's all the awful history about how a lot of vaccinations were done and how racist stuff happened, and so I get that there are so many layers, and I don't want our conversation here to be pedantic or small about it. But I do want to acknowledge that we got rid of fucking measles, and now we're not.Brad Crowell 13:17  Yeah, now it's back.Lesley Logan 13:18  Vaccinate your family, if you want to help support them, to help people who are not misinformed yet get taken care of and get the help they need because a lot of these things are free if they know about it.Brad Crowell 13:30  If you have a charity that you think should be featured or we should be talking about, let us know. Go to beitpod.com/questions, and you can also leave us a win for the Friday episode. Stick around. We'll be right back. We're going to talk about Amy Dickens.Brad Crowell 13:43  All right, welcome back. Let's talk about Amy Dickens. Amy is a joy advocate, author of 101 Ways to Spread Joy, and the creator of Joyfully You. She helps people reconnect to their joy as a tool for nervous system regulation and transformation. After struggling with mental health challenges into her mid-to-late 20s, Amy discovered that finding joy became her turning point. Her experience led her to explore how community and intentional joy practices reshape lives, and she's known for leading joy parades in the streets and helping others overcome social anxiety to build meaningful connections. That's pretty freaking cool.Lesley Logan 14:23  So cool. And I have to be honest, I'm sure someone in her life was like, "You're gonna make money doing this?" But she is, and she's doing a great job, and she brings such a smile to your face. I loved so much of what she said. When we show up as the joy that we wish to see in the world, that creates this invisible ripple effect, and it's so true.Brad Crowell 14:43  Did you say be it till you see it?Lesley Logan 14:45  Be it till you see it. I think that's what she said. That's what I said. Yeah. No, and I think this is so true. If there's an idea, if you need love, go give love. If you need joy, go give joy to people. Go smile. Go be. She says in a world full of fear and divisiveness, joy acts as a breath of fresh air. Yeah. And it really is true. In the industry that I'm in, it can be really negative, really nasty. I'm super pissed about people taking my IP and all this stuff. But I have this girl who's in a similar situation where someone in another country is using her stuff, has gone through all these efforts, and she's finally at the end of the rope. She's like, "All I can do is actually just put all the evidence on Facebook, call them out, and blast it because I can't go any further." And she's like, "Would you help me share this?" And I said, "I can't do that." I said, "It's not that I don't support you. Not that I probably wouldn't do the same thing. It's that I try not to put out negative stuff in this industry. I try to find a positive way to talk about the shit so that there's hope." And that goes through, like, how can we figure out a way to be the breath of fresh air?Brad Crowell 15:50  Yeah.Lesley Logan 15:51  In our offices, in the family situation, so that not only do we experience joy, but people do too. And maybe those people who are fearful and divisive might actually, I don't know. Maybe something happens when they experience a little bit of joy..Brad Crowell 16:03  Yeah, it's interesting. It's tough to stay focused on the positive, especially if somebody is maligning you or stealing from you. So yeah, that's a hard thing.Lesley Logan 16:14  I think that's a distinction in the joy. And then we had a guest last year where we talked about toxic positivity. Being a breath of fresh air and finding joy does not have to be in the shit that's happening. It can actually be next to the shit, right? It's like the idea of, like, okay, your house burnt down, so at least I get to design that master bedroom that I wanted. Like, that would be a toxic positivity thing. Finding joy is the neighbors that came over and showed how much they love and support you, and brought you new items and new things. I think finding joy or being the joy doesn't mean that you're not feeling feelings. It just means that you are not hyper-focused on all the shit.Brad Crowell 16:54  Hyper-focused on all the shit. Yep. I really loved when she was talking about how do you predict joy and happiness. She said that the number one predictor is your relationships.Lesley Logan 17:09  Yes.Brad Crowell 17:10  In life.Lesley Logan 17:10  We were talking about this with another person. Not us, with another person. You heard a guy talking about happiness and quality of relationship. It has to be with three prongs. So this is very fascinating. Your number one predictor of happiness is your relationships, and it's like the idea of you're the average of the five people you hang out with.Brad Crowell 17:28  Yeah, sure.Lesley Logan 17:28  So if they're shitty people, you're probably not going to have a lot of joy.Brad Crowell 17:31  Yeah, she said it includes both deep, intimate relationships, but also saying hi to random strangers.Lesley Logan 17:37  I like that you do that. My mom does that. I think I smile. I acknowledge.Brad Crowell 17:43  Yeah, I definitely started doing that when I was a teenager, and I would just compliment people. You know, "I like your shoes," or "I like your sweatshirt."Lesley Logan 17:52  All the time. They don't even listen sometimes. He said something one night in the airport. He told this one person, "I like your jacket," and a guy with a shitty jacket was like, "This thing?" And it was like, "No, I was talking to her."Brad Crowell 18:02  It was like, "Oh my god."Lesley Logan 18:04  But anyways, we all had a good laugh, so there was joy there. And you were a little pocket of joy for someone.Brad Crowell 18:09  So funny.Lesley Logan 18:09  Yeah. But if you are, "I can't say hi to strangers because what if they're crazy? What if they come at me?" Ladies, I feel you, which is why I actually make sure I'm very kind to the people behind the counter of the places that I get coffee. They are safe. They are behind the coffee thing.Brad Crowell 18:26  Yeah.Lesley Logan 18:26  Someone vetted them to work at that coffee place, and so I will bring joy to them. And then if I want to the people around me, I have a witness. So I feel good about it. I don't do it on the street as much, but, you know.Brad Crowell 18:36  She said that even saying hi to your neighbor actually matters for your mental health and joy. Yeah. So saying hi, or waving, or being kind to the mail person or whatever. She said we are in a loneliness epidemic right now, and learning to build community is a skill.Lesley Logan 18:51  Yeah. Brad Crowell 18:52  Learning to build community is a skill. The hard part requires being brave, that moment of hello, but the payoff is actual community and connection, right? That is amazing for our own loneliness, our own mental health, for our own joy and our own happiness. So she said, you have to put yourself in situations where you feel really scared and you're doing it anyways.Lesley Logan 19:17  It's like she listened to the podcast.Brad Crowell 19:20  Yeah. Actually, I was laughing because so many things—do it scared. She didn't say "be it till you see it," but she basically described that. A lot of the things that she was talking about, I was laughing because I was like, "Oh yeah, we say that. We talk about that."Lesley Logan 19:35  I love it. I love it. I know, and I think that's really true. There is a loneliness epidemic. One thing that I love about our situation where we live now versus the apartment, because we couldn't really just, I guess we did know our mail person at the apartment, but we know our FedEx driver, we know our UPS people, we know our mail lady. And even the ones we don't know, we're always out there. We meet them outside, like, "Hey, how's it going?" They know. They're like, "Oh, this is the Pilates house, right?" They probably don't have a lot of engagement. They're just on the roads dealing with people. So if you just even be nice to them, you might be the impact that they need.Brad Crowell 20:20  By doing that, you're the impact that you need.Lesley Logan 20:22  Yes, I agree. I remember, oh my gosh, when I worked in retail, we had the same UPS driver Monday to Friday and a different guy on Saturday, and we loved our Monday-to-Friday guy. We would talk to him every day. One day we didn't have him. He's like, "Oh yeah, I was subbing around in Newport." "You're going to leave us for the ocean, aren't you?" And he's, "No, I'm in AC all day. I don't have to do anything." But we were such good friends with our UPS driver, and it was something to look forward to every day. It's like part of the routine. Here he comes.Brad Crowell 20:47  That's fun. Yeah, I love it. Well, stick around. We'll be right back. We're gonna dig into those Be It Action Items. Welcome back. Let's talk about those Be It Action Items that you had with Amy Dickens. What bold, executable, intrinsic, or targeted action items can we take away from your convo? She said she uses two practices for maintaining joy. The first one is miracle walks.Lesley Logan 21:12  I love this.Brad Crowell 21:13  Yeah, and she said... Lesley Logan 21:14  Like, the miracle dreams person we had.Brad Crowell 21:17  She said, just walk around. Walk your block. And she said, "Look up." She changes her perspective instead of looking down at her phone or ahead on the sidewalk. Look up. What are you actually seeing? She said, "You cannot return until you identify three miracles on this walk." Okay, so miracle number one might be dew on a leaf or birds singing, right? So three things where you're just observing something that is amazing, something that is astounding.Lesley Logan 21:43  I do this every morning. I take a note of the moon and the sunrise every morning.Brad Crowell 21:48  I love that.Lesley Logan 21:48  Yes. I see if I have a third one.Brad Crowell 21:51  For me, it's often like a cactus. I'll take a closer look at them because they're all fascinating, how they grow. It's completely different.Lesley Logan 22:01  They change every day.Brad Crowell 22:02  Yeah, it's crazy.Lesley Logan 22:03  Especially right now because of the flowering.Brad Crowell 22:05  Yeah, I know. This part of the year is so beautiful in Vegas. She said this trains your brain to actively scan for beauty and joy in places you've already walked a thousand times.Lesley Logan 22:16  Yes.Brad Crowell 22:16  So instead of just letting it all pass you by, even in the city, there are amazing things to see. So I love it. Miracle walks is one. Two, calendar blocking. Prioritize scheduling connection and joy before filling your calendar with work.Lesley Logan 22:31  This is actually very much on brand with what I say when I teach people how to do their schedule on our retreat, which is you have to put your priorities first.Brad Crowell 22:40  Yep.Lesley Logan 22:40  Sleep.Brad Crowell 22:41  Yep.Lesley Logan 22:42  Light is genius. Sleep.Brad Crowell 22:43  Yeah, your rocks in your schedule, the way we describe that, is prioritizing the opportunity for connection and joy should be paramount. It should absolutely be a part of your schedule.Lesley Logan 22:56  Yes, yes.Brad Crowell 22:57  You know, for me, youLesley Logan 22:58  You cannot fit joy in. You're gonna fit it in. It's gonna stress it out.Brad Crowell 23:02  Yeah, for me, it's been sitting on the front porch, drinking my coffee in the morning, just gathering my thoughts and enjoying the day. You know.Lesley Logan 23:10  You know what we have not done?Brad Crowell 23:11  Tell me.Lesley Logan 23:12  We have not told the podcast we have a dog.Brad Crowell 23:14  Oh. We have a new dog.Lesley Logan 23:18  Yeah.Brad Crowell 23:18  Congratulations, us.Lesley Logan 23:20  Yeah. We'll talk more about that another day.Brad Crowell 23:22  Yeah, we'll we'll share that more, if you're on socials. I'm sure you've seen it on Instagram.Lesley Logan 23:26  And your morning, the reason that thought dolphined up, is because you sit out on the porch in the mornings with the dog.Brad Crowell 23:43  Yes.Lesley Logan 23:43  And Darla tried to join this routine, and it did not bring Darla joy.Brad Crowell 23:47  She lasted about five minutes. It did not bring Darla joy. Lesley Logan 23:50  No, no, no. Brad Crowell 23:52  What about you? What was your biggest takeaway?Lesley Logan 23:53  Okay, give yourself permission to follow your joy, whatever big or little ways that might be. Okay, this is really important. Let me finish her thought. Take a deep breath. Be honest with yourself. Write it all down. Say, "Okay, today, what would I feel like if I was 5% more alive right now?" So she's giving you permission to follow your joy, whatever that is. I want to just make sure I say this. My loves, my ADHD people, my high overachiever perfectionists, just because something brings you joy does not mean you have to get paid to do it. So please, permission to follow your joy and not make it have a return on investment other than joy.Brad Crowell 24:35  Right.Lesley Logan 24:36  As soon as I started telling people I was reading my tarot, I kept having people say, "You do a reading for me." No. Don't take my joy from me. And so I stopped telling people because they're trying to make a job out of it. And then some people might go, "Oh, why are you doing that? You can't make money from that." That's not your point. So just protect your joy thing. Yep. Okay.Brad Crowell 24:52  I love it.Lesley Logan 24:52  So, in giving yourself permission to follow your joy, you don't have to rewrite your whole life story, but allow yourself just a little of that as a tiny little reframe, like a new way of telling the same thing about yourself or a new way of adding something in. You're not changing everything about yourself to add a little bit of joy, but you are probably an affirmation of, like, "I am someone who sees joy in my morning walks." That's not changing everything you are, but it's changing that one little spot and reframing those things. So, anyways.Brad Crowell 25:22  Yeah, I dig it.Lesley Logan 25:23  I think she's great.Brad Crowell 25:24  This was a really fun podcast. Her demeanor and her attitude were amazingly joyfu and it's contagious.Lesley Logan 25:30  Oh yeah. And also, 101 Ways to Spread Joy. All these people who can do 101 anything, I am already impressed because 101, that is so many. Give me 10.Brad Crowell 25:44  Check that out. Amy Dickens, 101 Ways to Spread Joy.Lesley Logan 25:48  I'm Lesley Logan,Brad Crowell 25:48  and I'm Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 25:49  Send this to your friend who needs to spread some joy so they can feel some joy. Send the episode with Amy, and then they'll come here and see how chaotic we are, and then hopefully they're stuck. And until next time, Be It Till You See ItBrad Crowell 26:02  Bye for now.Lesley Logan 26:03  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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Are you waiting around for happiness to just appear, or are you actively hitting the "joy gym"? In this episode of Be It Till You See It, host Lesley Logan sits down with Amy, author of 101 Ways to Spread Joy, to unpack why joy is a practice, not a coincidence. Amy shares how she came through severe mental health challenges and social anxiety by learning to choose joy on purpose, take bold risks, and send a positive ripple out into the world. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Why spreading your own joy sends an invisible ripple outward.How to purposefully train yourself to learn to be joyful.Why your relationships are the top predictor of happiness.What it looks like to schedule the moments that fill your cup.Simple joys and the miracle walks Amy takes each morning.Episode References/Links:Amy Dickens Website - https://www.livejoyfullyyou.com101 Ways to Spread Joy - https://www.livejoyfullyyou.com/101waystospreadjoyJoy Bootcamp - https://www.livejoyfullyyou.com/joycampJoyfully You Podcast - https://www.livejoyfullyyou.com/podcastAmy Dickens Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/theamydickensAmy Dickens TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@theamydickensAmy Dickens YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@theamydickens/shortsEp 400 ft Gay Hendricks - https://beitpod.com/ep400Submit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsGuest Bio:Amy Dickens is a leading voice in the power of joy and play as tools for transformation and nervous system regulation. As the creator of Joyfully You, author of 101 Ways to Spread Joy, and host of the Joyfully You Podcast, Amy helps people reconnect to their aliveness through laughter, movement, and community. Whether she's leading parades of people dancing through the streets or speaking on stage about the ripple effect of joy, Amy's mission is to remind us that joy isn't a distraction from growth—it's the doorway to it. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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Like, if I had no fear, what would that look like?Lesley Logan 0:10  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast, where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousandss of people around the world, and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity, and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guests will bring bold, executable, intrinsic, and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and be it till you see it. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:52  All right, B e It babe. Get ready to smile. Get ready to... First of all, I'm just gonna tell you right now, I'm a fast talker. She's an excited talker. So if you normally listen on 2.0 speed, it might be a 1.5 episode. I'm just saying, but we're talking about joy today. Amy Dickens is the author of the best-selling book 101 Ways to Spread Joy, and I think we really need this right now. I think we need to one, understand how do we even feel joy in our own selves, and then two, how does that allow us to spread joy with others? And it's a really great story. I mean, I could have talked to Amy for hours. I'll be really, really honest. We kept it short, and I think there's at least three takeaways, maybe different ones for one person, another thing that made more sense to you. But I really do think that there's three awesome things that you can take away from this episode, if not more, and it might be one of those ones that you kind of hit rewind and go, "Wait, what did she do?" and add it to your list of things to try out because you got to feel all of our feelings. But one thing I think we really need to spend a little bit more time feeling as joy in our lives definitely helps you be it till you see it, and you're going to hear all of that in this episode. So here's Amy Dickens.Lesley Logan 2:00  All right, Be It babe, this is going to be... I'm just gonna say it. It's gonna be a joyful conversation. Every part of my being says it's going to be that way because we have Amy Dickens here, the author of 101 Ways to Spread Joy. So, Amy, can you tell everyone who you are and why you rock at joy spreading? Because I think that this is interesting. I've never met anyone who says this is what I do for a living.Amy Dickens 2:23  Yeah, yeah. It's funny you say that because I literally just met somebody else that does it this past weekend at a Joy Maker Bootcamp, and I'm like, whoa, other people do this? I thought I was the only one, but yeah. So I grew up with a ton of mental health problems until my mid to late 20s, probably, and it was joy, really, that helped respark me into this person that I am, to rediscovering the joy of living, kind of thing, in all the big and the little ways, and the true power of who I am as a person and that authenticity. And the more that I lean into it, the more I was like, "Whoa, this is who I really am." So I'm on a mission to really help reconnect people to their joy, so that they can become who they really truly are in this life, and then also it's turned into how can we create the world to be a better place? Because when we show up as the joy that we wish to see in the world, that creates this invisible ripple effect that, in turn, is kind of creating a new world, basically, for us to live in and co-create.Lesley Logan 3:24  Oh, 100% Amy. I mean, like they always say, your vibe attracts your tribe, right? So if you 're not joyful and you're going in like an Eeyore, of course, the only people who are actually going to talk to you are the Eeyores. It was really funny at my wedding, t hese two women who didn't know each other, I saw them talking and hugging the only air conditioning vent, and I was like, of course those two would be talking. Of course, that's just the cynic nature in them finding the cynic nature in each other, and they're just going to be cynics covering up the AC and stealing it from everybody. And no wonder the y're turning everyone into them. So it's just kind of funny how, I do agree. The more joyful we are living our life, it invites other people to be joyful too, but it does make the world a little bit better place, and it's really hard saying that. We're actually recording this during a time that the world does not feel very joyful, Amy, doesn't feel very joyful, and I feel like it's really easy for people to even think that this is a toxic positivity conversation, that it's not even thoughtful and considering what is going on. But I'll just tell you a little background that you don't know about me. In my spaces, there are places where you can complain. It's c a lled an "I need a moment" channel, and you're allowed to need a moment and bitch. But I have a rule that you have to have a win. You h a ve to share a win at the same time. You don't get to come back later and do it. You got to do it at the same time because there's always something good going on too, and there is a balance, and we can't just throw up on people and then come back and do joy later. So tell me, knowing what we know, what's going on right now.Amy Dickens 4:41  Yeah.Lesley Logan 4:43  Is seeking joy like a waste of time, not thoughtful? How can we do that in a way that doesn't feel privileged? Do you know what I mean? I made this a huge question. I'm sorry, I just laid it on you.Amy Dickens 5:00  Lay the huge questions on me. I'm here for it. I am all about it. Yeah, I personally have a really deep belief, deep in my bones, that we need our joy now more than ever. And then also, little caveat is that when I say this, I don't mean that we have to live at this peak state of bliss and joy 100% of the time.Lesley Logan 5:00  Like, don't fuck my joy up. Take your bad news over there. Yeah, it's not like that.Amy Dickens 5:22  Right. It's like, okay, we get to be a human that has the full spectrum of human emotions, and we aren't repressing stuff because that also doesn't work. We've seen that, we've been there, we've done that. We know that that's not the way, just shove it and ignore stuff. We can feel the whole thing, but I feel like where I'm looking at the world, and I've been the past 12 years on this whole self-help journey, it feels like joy often was a missing component in a lot of things that I was seeing. I truly do believe that our joy... I lead these joy parades, so my joy parades, I get people singing and dancing in the street. The whole point is to basically uplift yourself and to be this little uplifting moment, this breath of fresh air, this glitch in the matrix, kind of like whoa, people are looking up from their phones and suddenly they're dancing and singing "Who Let the Dogs Out" with us or something on a random Saturday, and it uplifts them. The response I get is otherworldly, and at the same place where we start this, oftentimes there happens to be a protest for something on the other side of the street or something, and it's a little bit edgy. And sometimes people feel a little angry at us for like, what are you doing? Amy Dickens 6:33  And to me, I feel like we are just taking two different paths of you know like trying to use yes, right? It's like the same coin, like kind of thing. But it's just like, oh, you can either do this way or that way. I'm not saying your way is wrong or right. This is just the way that feels like my part to play. And it feels like if we can show up in a joyful way, because I know myself personally, I make different choices when I'm in an angry state, when I'm in a fearful state, when I'm in a joyful state. And I truly believe that if we can start to be more joyful and connective with each other, that we will start to create different decisions. That we will show up and like create little micro pockets of a new world, rather than create. There's so much fear. There's so much divisiveness right now, and we're just. It feels like we're getting more and more separate, and to me that feels scary. To me, that feels not like not creating the world we wish to be in. When we're like, you're different, we can't talk. You think different things, we can't talk. I really would love to create a world of like, can we even dance together in the street for a second? I don't even need to know. And then from that space, there can be a level of safety almost because we all laugh and like we all want belonging.Lesley Logan 7:47  Yeah, it also makes me think like which party you want to be at, right? Like, like at the Portland protest, talk about joy, like that you were seeing with the frog guy and all the things, and like the you're not that our whole thing is about protesting, but I do think that like it's important that we talk about how joy can exist in a place where you are where you are still wanting to to support causes that you care about or rights that you care about. And like one of our first protests that we went to while living in Vegas, there was drummers and there was music and performers who were singing, and it just made everyone flipping us off look so weird because it's like we're having a great time. Like you look so strange, and so part of me is like, I want to be at the joy protest. You know, that's what I want to be at. Amy Dickens 8:25   Absolutely, yeah. And I mean, like I've heard someone else say she was like, "There's a war on happiness, and like there kind of is sometimes. Well, certain people they get mad at like joyful, happy people. Lesley Logan 8:27  Well, I want to go back to a little bit how you said something about growing up, and I don't remember a time of actual pure celebration. Look, my parents listen to this, and they're gonna be like, "Excuse me, we did celebrate on April 13th at this time." I'm sure there was, but Im' thinking about, the way I interpreted things is like, "Oh, I won, but the team won, but I dropped the ball. We did this, but I could have done..." Every achievement of celebration was also really that the thing that I took away, just the personality type that I have, was all the things I could have done better. And so it's very rare that you're just in the joyful moment. And not that you shouldn't reflect back about what's going on, but I do think that we too often, because we're busy and we are doing too many things, we are not taking the time to celebrate what we did do, and then on a separate time sit down and go, okay, so what is the postmortem on that? Because otherwise we ruin the joy part by talking about the things we could have done better, which we could do the next day, right?Amy Dickens 9:39  Absolutely, yeah. There is such a focus on what didn't work and complaining, and we have a negativity bias already, biologically as humans. So we're just wired for that. So it's challenging to unlearn our old programming and say, how can... Because I think most of us could probably agree, I think most people can say: do you want to be more joyful? I think most people would probably check "yeah" on that box.Amy Dickens 10:05  I don't think many people be like, no,Lesley Logan 10:07  I have enough July.Amy Dickens 10:08  I would like to be miserable. Honestly, I have I have had a lot of people like on the streets be like, I'm already joyful. Like, all right, cool. That's all good. Like, more power to you, man. But I I think that it's a hard pill to swallow to say it's kind of hard to retrain ourselves to learn to be joyful. Like it's I call it the joy gym. You know, you have to go to the gym or you know some workout class to build muscle. And if you don't go, like your muscle fatigues and you lose that. And it's the same thing with joy. Like you don't always want to go to the gym. You don't always want to make a choice to choose to be a different person, to choose to like move your body or think in ways that a joyful person would. There's like a slight discipline, and also I think a a need for that why that pulls you to oh this is why I am making this choice to be a joyful person because I know that if I'm showing up in like this joyful way, I get to create a ripple of impact around me. I can make someone's day. I can be the person with the energy in the room that is impacting everyone to kind of have that whole like, whoa! I feel like so much more myself. I feel so much more empowered after talking to her, inspired, or just like I just feel good, like we all know those people, and we can be that person. And it's not like if you're not that person, because I wasn't that person. I straight up was not even close to that person.Amy Dickens 11:31  And it was over the years choosing again and again things that filled my cup and were joyful to me, and living a joyful life and a life of purpose and all of these things. And it's a big old bumpy road, right? But also saying, okay, how do I practice and also mess up a bazillion different times at trying to be her? What does that version of you look like? And it's trial and error. And sometimes it feels uncomfortable when you're not used to doing it because you've never done it before, and it doesn't really make it wrong. You can just say, hey, not that way, but let me try this way this time.Lesley Logan 12:02  Well, that's just Amy, and you just mentioned "be her" with, obviously, the Be It Till You See It podcast. I think it's this interesting thing. A lot of us are waiting until when we get somewhere, right? Oh, when I get this, and when this happens. And we actually do have to be it till we see it. So to be a joyful person, you actually cannot wait for a joyful moment. You have to be the joy that you want to see. Like that's what they say, right? So, can we talk a little bit about that? You weren't always this joyful person, and you were trying to be a joyful person. What did being a joyful person before you were a joyful person look like? What did going to the joy gym look like? What was the first rep?Amy Dickens 12:43  Yeah. I mean, for me, I wouldn't say I'm the most normal cookie of all time. I'm kind of an all-or-nothing kind of girly sometimes. So for me, it really looked like I had this huge breakup moment with a person I was with for 11 years, and it was this whole restructuring of my life. And I said, "Whoa, I'm gonna follow my joy." What does that even look like? I don't even really know. Like, what is it that only me, as an adult woman, wants to do? And I realized it was these big things that were often really joyful and really scary to another part of me, and that was the reason why I hadn't done any of these things. I've always wanted to do a yoga teacher training for like eight years, and I was like, why have I not done that? Because I was like, "Well, I'm not a yoga teacher," was the story that I had. And I said, oh, well, you're never going to become a yoga teacher unless you do the training. That's literally the only way to do it. No one walks into that door and is like, "Yeah, I'm already a yoga teacher."Lesley Logan 13:41  Right, no one's born with the certification. You have to go do it.Amy Dickens 13:44  Right! But I had to really let myself take risks, not think very much, and let myself fail and learn that fail in quotes, you know, and just do stuff and flop. So I think I was like, what if I do this and it doesn't work, or I can't be her? And I just would take bold leaps and book one-way tickets to places. I was pretty wild and extreme. And it doesn't have to look like that, but I do think that the nugget of wisdom within that was allowing myself to say: what is it that really would spark joy inside of me, make me feel alive? What would that look like on a big scale or a micro scale to follow that, to empower myself to make a move towards becoming that, and knowing that I do it scared, and knowing that at first it was uncomfortable and that didn't make it wrong, but the more you gain the confidence by doing it... You don't get confidence by just thinking about it or prepping for it. You get the confidence by doing the reps, and you're like, oh, suddenly my comfort zone's bigger because I've been doing this. And now there's a new edge for me to walk into.Lesley Logan 14:54  It's the craziest thing. Everyone is like, "I'm just waiting to... When I'm more confident, I'll do this." And it's something that I have struggled with in supporting people and coaching people: wait, do you think that some people were just born confident and others were not? Because that's not what I think. I think that somewhere along the way, some people's confidence bucket was upheld and supported, and some people's confidence buckets were kicked down the street. But we all have one, and the only way to keep confidence or get it back is to do the thing you said you'd do scared, and be willing to fail and flop and try again. And I think some people have a really hard time with either rejection or the failure of it all. There's a perfectionist problem that affects people from experiencing joy. I don't think you can be a perfectionist and a joy-filled person. I don't know, I could be wrong. Have you met a perfectionist who's joyful?Amy Dickens 15:57  You know, I would say there's a lot of recovering perfectionists that I've met, they're like, hey I have joy. I'm definitely raising my hand here.Lesley Logan 16:05  Like all addicts I've ever heard on TV, constantly, they're forever going to AA, saying, "Hi, that's me. Hello, I am Lesley. I'm a recovering perfectionist, yes."Amy Dickens 16:14  Recovering perfectionist, and you know, I have some days that are great and some days that could be better.Lesley Logan 16:21  Yeah.Amy Dickens 16:21  Yeah, and I think that a huge part, in retrospect and just reflecting on how many people that I've talked to... and this wasn't really a conscious choice at the time... was because I used to have horrible social anxiety, like very, very intense, like could not really talk to anybody that I didn't know extremely well without feeling like my whole body was flushed and tense, and like I needed to run (inaudible).Lesley Logan 16:44  That's so hard because how do you get to know people if you don't talk to them? That's really difficult. Oh, this is so hard to get over.Amy Dickens 16:53  Yeah, and it was really just throwing myself into the deep end of: okay, you gotta sit with this and learn that people aren't scary by being with people. And now we know that the number one predictor of joy and happiness is the quality of your relationships in your life, both the deep, intimate relationships and just the number of random strangers. Apparently, that's really good for our joy and our mental health. Just be like, "Ah, hi, bud! Get the mail today?" Apparently, they say that that's great for you.Lesley Logan 17:22  That is hilarious. I didn't know that, and no wonder. In L.A. in an apartment, I lived near people for... how long did I live there? Seven years in the apartment. I didn't know anyone's name. We would just walk past each other. My neighbors , I've lived here almost six years, and we know every neighbor's name. We know them all.Amy Dickens 17:41  It's not even like you need to hang out all the time, but there's... for some reason.Lesley Logan 17:44  I'm definitely more joyful. Yeah.Amy Dickens 17:45  ...communalness to it. And I think that that was also a part of my journey to becoming more joyful was learning, because I think so many of us are like, how do we make friends as adults? How do I...? And there's this loneliness epidemic, you know, it's just all over. I think learning how to heal that and really value... okay, I need to learn how to make community, to make friendships, to be bold and brave and put myself in situations where I feel really scared and I'm doing it anyways. I'd have questions on my phone in case my brain would go blank at first, because I was like, oh my god, what if I don't know what to say? And I'm like, oh yeah, I'll have some juicy questions on my phone so that I can learn how to have this conversation, or give myself training wheels, or I do fun things with people. I'd be like, I love dancing, and dancing's so regulating. So that's a great way to try and meet people. Lesley Logan 18:37  And now you can go to a silent disco, so you can be someone who's introverted and who loves to dance, and you can go be amongst a ton of people, but by yourself, so you can build up the confidence to being in a group of people. There's just so many different ways you can do things now. And I just read that the World Health Organization says that being lonely, loneliness is terribly bad for both your physical and your mental health. We are designed to be amongst people. So I just want to take a step back because you mentioned having mental health issues growing up, terrible anxiety. When did you get a resume together for a joy job? I'm gonna be really honest, Amy. If I was your parent, I'd be like, "Can she make money spreading joy?" I don't understand. So, can we talk a little about the journey to going... that you went on that made you not only an expert, but someone who wrote a best-selling book? It seems a little odd.Amy Dickens 19:32  Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. It certainly was not the trajectory that I ever had in mind of, "Yes, I'm going to graduate college, and this is what I will do with my degree."Lesley Logan 19:44  Is there...? I mean, there are happiness coaching degrees that I know because I've interviewed people who are certified in happiness coaching, but I don't know if that's what you did. So tell me more.Amy Dickens 19:55  No, that certainly was not the plan. Because of all of my mental health and all this kind of stuff, I was obsessed with self-help, reading all of the books, doing all of the courses for the past 12 years, and then got really into teaching yoga. That was where I started all of my joyful experience. And then from teaching yoga, I started learning to make people dance on the mat, and then it turned into: ooh, what if we played games together instead of doing yoga at all? And then suddenly I'm leading workshops in how do we get people to authentically connect and use play to regulate their nervous system? And emceeing events started happening, and it was just all of these happenstance things start, I wasn't planning on doing this. Somebody just kind of asked me if I would do something, and I said, "Sure, I'll try and do that. I've never emceeed an event before. Why not? Let's see." And it was fun. And then through that, you're uplifting people. And before I know it, I'm leading parades of people dancing through the streets, just on a mission of spreading joy around. It's been such a journey. In there, there's a whole coaching certification and business that I had started at the time, and a million other things. I think there was just this part of me that was like, I am on a mission, and I know that because deep in my bones this mission chose me. I didn't say, "I want to be the joy lady." It just felt like: I need a purpose. What is my purpose? And it just kept coming to me. I was like, okay, because it chose me, this is inevitable that it will work. There is no chance that it doesn't. And if it's not working yet, I just gotta keep going. And I gotta have fun with it too. That's the huge part of it.Lesley Logan 21:40  Amy, if you're having the least amount of fun becoming a joy coach, I'm just...Amy Dickens 21:48  I'm gonna be real honest. There was definitely that moment where I had a whole shame spiral because I was so perfectionist in this one moment. I literally burnt myself out, and I was like, oh my god, I am so stressed about being this joy coach and making this business work, I'm an imposter. Oh my god! Lesley Logan 22:07  RightAmy Dickens 22:09  Yeah, absolutely. And I was like, okay, I gotta learn to enjoy the journey because the journey is 98% of it. The destination is this tiny little, "Okay, reached that goal, onto the next part of your journey." And it's fine and great to have goals, but to just be solely focused on the destination... Learning to enjoy life itself is a skill. Learning to just be like, "Wow, I'm freaking joyful for no freaking good reason," that is a skill, and I see it as a gift to this world. If you can feel the blessings of this day that you're like, "Wow! I can walk, I can breathe, I can move my body," all of these incredible things that we take for granted each and every day, rather than focusing on the negative, we can create really incredible things from that space. Each and every one of us, when we're in that connected space to our true gifts, our power, our gratitude, there's infinite abundance that we can create from that.Lesley Logan 23:08  I'm kind of wondering... You just mentioned a few things, like "I can breathe" and "I can walk" and I do these things. I think we do forget that there is joy in those things because it's certainly not joyful when your leg falls asleep or you're sick in bed. You're not feeling joy then, and you're like, "I miss being well," but you weren't enjoying how well you were before you were sick. Do you have any tools for people who are like, "Okay, I'm gonna practice feeling the joy feeling"? How did you practice being her, being the joy?Amy Dickens 23:40  Yeah, I mean, if we're gonna take the joy, there's almost two different camps, and one I would say is simple joys. To me, my number one way that I personally practice this is I get outside when I'm feeling really stressed, and I look up, I look up at the sky, I look up at the trees, I change my perspective, and I take a deep breath. It's a very simple, one-second thing that you can do. You can do it between a Zoom call in one minute if your door is close enough. It's something about changing your perspective. You're looking up at the sky and the trees, and it's like, whoa, I'm a human being. I'm not just this robot that needs to be hyper-productive. There's something about it that just instantly brings me back into: whoa, I am not just here to do, do, do. I am here to be a human being and just enjoying the little simple things. How much can I romanticize and enjoy this moment in my life? Can I put a sweet playlist on in the background and change the way in which I'm working? Can I slow down and eat a meal? That's constantly what I'm still working on to this day.Lesley Logan 24:49  I keep saying I'm going to. I do have an hour-long lunch break, and it's so easy to be like, "Oh, I'm just gonna do one more thing," and now the lunch break is only 20 minutes, and "I'll just do this while I'm doing that." It's definitely a bad habit. That is one I would like to try to find the joy in slowing down. But I couldn't agree more. The simple joys. I love that you brought it in two camps so far because sometimes when I'm stressed out, I just take a walk around my one block. You're stressed out, and then somehow around a corner, all of a sudden you're like, "Oh, okay, I'm ready to go back in." It's a really weird thing how quickly our brain will shift if we give it the opportunity to experience a simple joy.Amy Dickens 25:32  Yeah, it just needs that little simple moment. And I've been taking these miracle walks in the morning where I leave my front door and I say, "All right, I'm not going to come back until I find three miracles." And I'm like, okay, I know I only have time for a walk around the block, so it's about 10 minutes. And it expands your definition of what a miracle is. It's a little piece of dew at the end of a leaf, or some birds singing and flying in front of your face, or whatever it might be that you notice on that same block you've walked a million times. But that, in and of itself, is training yourself to look for the joy, the beauty, the good in the world in a place that you've been a million times.Lesley Logan 26:06  Oh my god, Amy, what a great idea! That is so great.Amy Dickens 26:08  It's so fun. I love it. I've been having so much fun with it. And then the other camp is, I'd say, those bigger joy moments. Like I love to look at my calendar before I fill it with as many calls and all of the things as I can, and say, okay, how can I plan moments of connection of things that fill my cup? Like I love singing and dancing, and if I were to fill my calendar with everything else, there's no time at the end for the things that really fill my cup that I love to do. So I started a few years ago just thinking, okay, a lot of them are just recurring, so they're just in my Google Calendar. It's like I know I go to choir at this time. I know I have dinner with my friends this day of the week right here, and you don't really move things unless it's absolutely necessary, and that keeps my cup consistently filled because I'm making sure, hey, there is time for me to have connection with other people, because I spend a lot of my time not with humans face to face right now. So it's important to build that human connection to the things that we love to do or exploring new things too. That's also something that I try to schedule in at least once a week. It's like, okay, a new networking thing, or can I have coffee with someone that I've never met before? Just kind of those little serendipity moments of let the magic in. Let's plan to be open to life surprising us rather than it just being like...Lesley Logan 27:29  I love... I'm a big fan. I have this whole way of having your ideal dream schedule, and to me, dreams do come true. And ideal, obviously, not perfect. It just is the ideal thing. And I always talk about how your sleep and your workouts have to go in the calendar before anything else. And the things that bring you joy, they have to be in there because you're right. If we put everything else in first, there's no room. You can't squeeze joy in. So I think your big joy camps, the things that truly fill your cup, whether it is going to choir or going... Like some people want to go to the library. They love the smell of books. That you might have to schedule in and make sure it's there, so you're not going, "Oh my god, it's been three months since I went to a library." No, if it brings you joy, it should be happening so regularly so that you can actually get through all the shit, because there's gonna be shit.Amy Dickens 28:15  Yeah, absolutely. Because I think that we don't realize that being joyful, it's like rocket fuel in our tank. I think we all know that, or I can call on an experience when you were feeling so joyful, so lit up, so radiant, and it was effortless to create and be inspired. And not that we have to be at that peak state all the time, you know. We still ebb and we flow. But if we consistently are filling our cup, then it's going to actually help us be more efficient, really, in the rest of our life.Lesley Logan 28:46  I think so. I think so. You know, I think a lot of people, though... I interviewed Gay Hendricks on this pod, and his whole thing is that people have, you know, you're in your genius zone, and when getting in your genius zone, your zone of genius, you end up often upper-limiting because you're uncomfortable. Like you have a joyful moment, and then you kind of self-sabotage. How do we handle that pendulum swinging back and forth? Because we have to feel our feelings and we got to go through there. But how did you kind of allow yourself to just be in the joy, or did you ever self-sabotage out of the joy? I feel that's what a lot of our listeners struggle with, is they'll experience seeing something joyful and then they'll get a call that their friend got fired, or this bill came in, and it just sucks them right back down. And so it's how do you feel the feelings, but not lose the joy?Amy Dickens 29:29  Yeah, absolutely. I definitely have a PhD in penduluming from one side to the other. They didn't even know they made up the degree for me. They were like, "Ah, yes, Amy, you got the Amy Dickens Award for penduluming between the two extremes so much." And I think that that was also a gift to learn how to stop penduluming and continuously pendulum back towards the joy to a balanced state in the middle, and life still gets lifey. That's not the whole thing with joy, is that it's like, yes, nothing ever happens to me. But when it does, I personally have a really deep belief now that I think really helps me, is like: don't take things personally. Life is happening for me, not to me. All of these things that have been so ingrained into who I am at this point that when life starts to get lifey... And I've also seen life fall apart so many times that I know it always works out. If it hasn't worked out yet, I just keep going, and eventually things will come back together. So I've noticed I've become a lot less dramatic. I was a very dramatic human. You know, like, "Oh my god, I lost a friend," and whatever it might be was just always felt like the end of the world to me, and it would suck all of the joy out of me. And I think I'm realizing, wow, those things are real and I do feel them deeply. And I'm a big crier, and I feel the things and I process, and I'm like: what is this here to teach me? How do I move through this? How do I regulate my nervous system through this? And realizing, wow, I have this one wild and precious life, and I'm gonna continue to choose the joy when it feels time. And I think a big part of that is also discernment. It's like gaining that wisdom of discernment that only we can have for ourselves. Only we can say, "I know that I'm done feeling this grief," or whatever it might be, anger, fear, "and it's time to shift myself into a different state." No one else can really tell you when it's time for that. I think that that's also just a trial and error thing, and learning to listen to the wisdom of our body and our intuition and ourself, and to trust ourselves to say, "Actually, I need to be sad right now, and that's okay, because I trust myself in that." And I also say not days like "I'm having a bad day," but "I'm having a bad moment," because then that leaves the next moment to be open to being something different. Because if we have the whole label on this day, then you've kind of already pre-decided, and it's okay to not have a joyful moment. It's a human experience.Lesley Logan 32:04  Yeah, no, I agree. I mean, you're gonna have a loved one pass away, or a breakup's gonna happen, or you are gonna be disappointed on how a project went. But I do like that you get to label the moment, but not the whole day, or giving yourself that permission to feel that moment, but not let it take away from the little miracles you could see or feeling the feelings around it. You said not being so dramatic, and I think as someone with ADHD, and I attract a lot of people with that, what I've discovered is I think that drama that some of us kind of go to, that swinging back and forth... My team is like, "You're swinging back and forth from your microphone, stay there." But that swinging back and forth is a dopamine hit, right? We go dramatic and high because it kind of feels the thing that our brain survives off of. But if we can actually get our dopamine hits from some other places, then we don't have to go such a deep swing. It could be like, "Whoa, this moment really sucks. It's a good thing that's not personal, it's not about me. And somehow this is going to work towards my favor." I'm disappointed in this moment. We go walk around the block and feel that disappointment, and then hopefully... You just gave me some great ideas, and I learned so much about myself. Thanks, Amy.Amy Dickens 33:20  I also had that. I'm seeing that as well. And there's a big part of the titration, you know, like when you're like, "Oh, it's a bad moment," and just having that moment of, oh... even if most of the day was bad, but you had like, oh, they were all just a bunch of bad moments, and then I had this one moment with a friend where I laughed for five minutes, and then I kind of sunk back down into it. But that little uplifting moment does so much for your capacity in your nervous system to continue to hold whatever it is that you're holding, that I don't think we really recognize to the fullness of it sometimes.Lesley Logan 33:54  Yeah, I couldn't agree more. All right, I could talk to you forever about joy because this is just the most contagious thing. Thanks for spreading it here, but we're gonna take a brief break. I want to find out where we can get your book, and I think you've got some good Be It Action Items for us. I just have a feeling.Amy Dickens 34:06  I'm so excited.Lesley Logan 34:08  All right, Amy, where can people buy your book, 101 Ways to Spread Joy, and where do you hang out? Where are your joy parties? Tell us everything. How can we stalk you in a joyful place?Amy Dickens 34:18  Absolutely, you can get the book, 101 Ways to Spread Joy. It's on Amazon. Amy Dickens. You can see all the rainbow color on it.Lesley Logan 34:25  O h my god, it has a disco ball on it. I'm already in.Amy Dickens 34:27  Everything I make has a disco ball. Always. I did it on accident.Lesley Logan 34:31  Amy, are we friends that have never met? Like, we must be friends. I'm so into disco balls, it's unbelievable.Amy Dickens 34:43  They're great. When the light hits a disco ball... I mean, biggest light hack.Lesley Logan 34:46  Okay, Amy, I have a sequined kimono. You'll have to Google one. And just so you know, I bought it... I'm like, this is kind of ridiculous. It is so ridiculous. I did a whole photo shoot with it. But at any rate, I got it in my car, like I bought it at the store, and put it on to drive home because I'm like, I'm gonna wear it right now. I was my own disco ball in the car because the sun was shining so much, I was blinding my own self. I was like, "Oh my god, this is (inaudible). Amy Dickens 35:09  All the cars next to you, they're like, "I can't see."Lesley Logan 35:12  Yeah. So, anyways, I cut you off. Everything you create is a disco ball. So your book is where again, just in case I distracted people with my, Amazon, okay. Amy Dickens 35:19  Amazon, easy peasy. Just go to Amazon, you can find it there.Lesley Logan 35:22  Perfect. And then where do you hang out on socials? Where like where can they get a little joy boost?Amy Dickens 35:26  Yeah, absolutely. You can find me on all the socials @theamydickens. If you want the first 10 pages to my book, you can get it for free on my website, livejoyfullyyou.com, and get a nice little taste of it. And if you're like, "Ooh, I like that, I'll do a little bit more," then you're totally welcome to do that. Yeah.Lesley Logan 35:44  I mean, my goodness, you guys. I'm sure there's at least 101 days left in the year, but maybe more by the time you hear this. You could do one joyful spreading thing a day and see how you end up feeling. I imagine you'll feel more joy after spreading joy.Amy Dickens 35:55  Oh, that's one of the secrets to life, is spreading joy and just being of service to making the world a better place, it's a huge life hack.Lesley Logan 36:04  Yeah, I love that. Okay, you've given us some great tips already, and honestly, your book probably has some great bold, executable intrinsic or targeted steps that people can take. But what else do you have for us?Amy Dickens 36:13  Yeah, I would say to give yourself permission to follow your joy, whatever big or little ways that might be, and to let yourself just kind of be brutally honest. Like, if I had no fear, what would that look like? And just journal it out, take a deep breath, be honest with yourself, write it all down, and then maybe say, "Okay, today, what would I feel like if I was 5% more alive right now? What would I do? What could that be?" And allow yourself to do that. It doesn't have to be like, I rewrite my whole story and I throw away all the things that are not working right now. But allow yourself to just take that little reframe of: Can I put five more percent of my time and energy into my joy? What would that look like? Because it's different for every single one of us. Something that brings joy to one person might not be the same thing for me or you or somebody else, and it's just so important because it's not something that you need to earn. It's something that you practice, and it continues to give back to you. I think some of us are waiting for joy to knock on our door, and it's a choice. We have to cultivate it and learn that. Yes, sometimes it does surprise us and say like, "Hey, I'm here," but it's a practice. It's a skill that we can learn to cultivate. And this is here to be your full permission slip to live this inspired, alive life that you're so worthy and deserving of, and to follow your joy and know that it's a way to creating the world to be a better place.Lesley Logan 37:41  I love that. You are right. A lot of people are waiting for joy to hit them on the head, as opposed to... actually, no, joy is waiting for you to come to where it's at. You gotta come to it. You gotta go seek it out. You gotta go find the joyful moments. Oh, you're so good. This is so great. I'm really excited we had this conversation, Amy. Thank you so much for being you. Thank you for these wonderful Be It Action Items . Thank you for helping not just spread joy, but also you have such an amazing aura with your joy that this is like a fun conversation. I'm sure people are smiling, and they're going to have a more joyful day because they listened to this episode. So y'all have to go share this episode with a friend, probably the Eeyore one, so that they have joy, and this could be your point one to the 100 W ays to Spread Joy. Yeah, this is your pre-homework. All right, Amy, thanks so much for being you. And everyone else, until next time, Be It Till You See It.Lesley Logan 38:33  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review, and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcasts. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others be it till you see it. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of the Bloom Podcast Network. 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Lesley Logan opens this FYF episode with an honest admission that everything takes longer than you want it to, even when you trust it will work out. From there she turns to gratitude, celebrating the round six eLevate group and two students who reclaimed overhead exercises they had not done in years. Their success came from staying curious rather than assuming the door had already closed. It is a warm, grounded case for honoring the wins right in front of you. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Lesley's honest moment about things taking longer than planned.Round six eLevate crew in their five weekends of education.Celebrating her team's achievement and integration of a new hire.Spring training students land overhead exercises missing for years.Taking the win gets harder when you compare to who you used to be.Episode References/Links:UpLift Waitlist - https://xxll.co/uwsSubmit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questions If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:49  Hello, Be It babe. Welcome back to your Fuck Yeah Friday episode. These are kind of fun for me. I hope you're loving them. I would love to know if you're liking the new style, the new topic, the new "I need a moment," or if you preferred when I would rant about something I saw on the internet. I don't know. You let me know. This podcast is supposed to be for you. Otherwise, I'm just talking to myself. And by the way, I do that a lot because after this, I'm filming a YouTube episode, and then after that, I'm filming OPC classes. So I talk to myself a lot. So I would like to know if what I'm talking to myself about in this room is actually meaningful for you. So definitely let us know. You can send your wins in, or your topic suggestions or requests, to beitpod.com/questions. You can send anything there. And we've had lots of people go, "How do we support the show? We don't do Patreons." We got a lot going on. You can support the show a number of different ways. OPC, being a member of that is definitely one of the best ways you can support the show. That is the most meaningful, wonderful way to support this show. If that is something you're already doing, or if it's not and it's in the picture for you right now, another way to support the show is just subscribe on YouTube. You can subscribe to our show. You can subscribe to our Online Pilates Classes YouTube channel. Those are free. YouTube.com/@OnlinePilatesClasses, and then the Be It Pod is its own handle, so you can check those out and subscribe. Those are free. That's a great way to support. Some people are like, "How do I support charities that have no money? You have time." "I don't have time." "Well, then you have friends who have got time." "I don't have..." You have people in your life you can donate your sheets to. There are ways to support if you don't have time and money and lots. Sometimes it's just telling people about the thing that you love, or the thing that you want to support, or the thing that needs support.Lesley Logan 2:22  So, all right, my "I need a moment" for today. Honestly, I really don't like that, we know once you get to a certain age, you realize that everything takes longer than you want, but you don't want it to, right? Everything takes longer than it's supposed to, but you don't want it to, and so I'm just frustrated because everything, everything, everything, everything is just taking longer than I want. And I know it's all going to happen the way it's supposed to. I know it's all going to work out the way it's supposed to. I know, but I hate how long things are taking. Just a month ago, I had this one contract that we thought was done 17 times. That's how many times we thought it was done, it got kicked back, and it got kicked back, and it got kicked back, and just like, I want to check this off the sheet. Why is this taking so long? And then on top of that, I had this other thing that I was doing, and it was supposed to get here on this date, and then it was on that date, and then this date. And it's like, okay, you're stressing me out. Now you can see why I lie to you about when things are due, so that I can get it when it needs to be done. Because my goodness, if I told you the real date, you would miss the real date and you'd fuck me over. And so I just hate that everything takes longer than you want to. And even when you know it, it's still disappointing. It just is.Lesley Logan 3:39  All right. So enough of the ranting. Enough of the "I need a moment." My win is that we are heading into the fifth weekend of eLevate. So round six is all their education will be done after this weekend, which is insane. They still have their assessments to do and things like that. We still have loads of fun to have with them with their final assessments. But the learning of 500-plus exercises, they will have wrapped that this weekend. And to have done six rounds of this and still love it, I think, not to still love it, but to be so excited for the next one, it's just, I feel really lucky to get to do what I do, and that people are enjoying it. And it's been a really busy work season for me. This year is a really head-down, get-the-work-done year between the upLift beta program, getting things ready for the educators to apply this in the fall, and just really a lot going on there. And to be able to be present for all of my different projects is a massive win. And to just take a moment to celebrate what the round six peeps have done is important. And I'm really proud of them. I'm proud of the team. During their program, we had one of our major players on maternity leave and a new teammate come on, and I'm just so proud of the work that they have been doing together to make sure that program is as enjoyable as when it's been past team members and things like that. So they're just great. I'm really, really grateful, and what a win! So, yeah, I'm sitting here in a lot of gratitude for what I get to do, and really proud of that.Lesley Logan 5:27  So the two wins I want to celebrate came through our spring training. We had two different people in two days have success doing overhead exercises that have been outside of their practice for years. And so, ladies, you know who you are. One gave a shout-out on Wednesday afternoon, and one on Thursday morning, end of the spring training event. And their wins are because they showed up for themselves. They were curious. They were focusing on the connections, and they didn't get in their head about, "Well, I haven't been able to do that in two years, so I can't do it today, so I'm not even going to try." They were listening to all the different teachers and all the different classes ahead of them, and really getting involved in it, getting interested in it, getting into it. And then because of that, they were able to listen to their body and go, "You know, maybe I'm going to try ." And I just want to say thanks for trusting us. And then, on top of that, thanks for celebrating and sharing with us, so we could celebrate you. It's really easy to compare yourself to your old self, to the body you used to have, and the things and exercises you used to be able to do, and then not take the win when you have it because, well, three years ago you could do that, and then some. And that's how the world would want you to do it, right? That's how people are raised. It's like, "Well, of course, you should be able to do that by now," and that's bullshit to me. To me, we will have exercises and abilities that will go in and out of our lives. Some will be in and out. Some will be out forever. Some will be in forever. We have to celebrate what we can do. We have to take a moment to do that each and every day because it's already hard. Life's already hard. So thank you to my ladies in spring training who shared their overhead success with us. It was fun for us to celebrate with you those classes, and I've just been thinking a lot about you as I've been recording wins for this month, and I just had to shout you out because I'm really proud and impressed by you. So thanks so much.Lesley Logan 7:26  All right, send your wins in, my loves, to beitpod.com/questions so you can hear it on a day you need to. And your mantra for the weekend is I am lightening my load. I am lightening my load. I am lightening my load. Yes. So if you are feeling like lots of things are exiting your life right now, it's because you're lightening your load. So let it. Thank you so much, my love. Share our podcast with friends who need to hear it. And until next time, Be It Till You See It.Lesley Logan 7:54  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 8:36  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 8:41  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 8:46  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 8:53  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 8:56  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

In part four of the Permission to Change series, Lesley Logan reframes changing your niche as recognizing the superpower you already have. She walks through a simple self-awareness map built on three buckets, your values, your skills, and your interests, and shows how the overlap points to work that feels aligned instead of forced. She shares how her own experience shaped the way she built OPC and Agency. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Finding your superpower and what it is that you do.Building a self-awareness map from your values, skills, and interests.How to find the sliver where your interests meet community needs.Using your values as a filter for every future yes.A Pilates analogy that proves alignment shows up through movement.Episode References/Links:StrengthsFinder - https://high5test.com/cliftonstrengths-freeLesley on Pilates Perspectives - https://beitpod.com/pilatesperspectivesSubmit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questions If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentCheck out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentBe in the know with all the workshops at OPC https://workshops.onlinepilatesclasses.com/lp-workshop-waitlistBe It Till You See It Podcast Survey https://pod.lesleylogan.co/be-it-podcasts-surveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates Mentorship https://lesleylogan.co/elevate/FREE Ditching Busy Webinar https://ditchingbusy.com/Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gLesley Logan website https://lesleylogan.co/Be It Till You See It Podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjogqXLnfyhS5VlU4rdzlnQProfitable Pilates https://profitablepilates.com/about/Follow Us on Social Media:Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lesley.logan/The Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gFacebook https://www.facebook.com/llogan.pilatesLinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesley-logan/The OPC YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@OnlinePilatesClasses Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  You need to understand that you are not starting over. You're not restarting. You are refining because you have years of accumulated wisdom. You have years of achievements, years of data that you have survived every one of your bad days. Lesley Logan 0:16  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:59  Welcome back to Be It, babe, but we are talking Permission to Change again this week. We're going a little deeper. This is a little more nuanced. This hopefully gives you some questions to ask yourself when it comes to finding your superpower and what it is that you do, so you don't have to start all over. Because oftentimes it's not actually that we have to start all the way over; we often just have to maybe even just redefine our title, or redefine who we're reaching out to, or who we're inviting into our lives based on having, like, "Oh, hold on, this is what actually lights me up," or "This is what people love about me." We've had some really great guests on the show who are all StrengthsFinder coaches. There was a woman we had recently in the last year who I loved so much out of Utah, and then there was a guy out of Texas that I really, really liked. When you understand what your superpowers are, it really helps you sometimes relook at what your role is. Sometimes that means you get to stay in that role, but you just have different responsibilities. And sometimes you have to totally leave, right? Or you actually just do a lateral change. Like my neighbor, he actually took a lateral promotion because he really wanted to be working on developing people's skill sets in the business versus always talking about the data. So that's really cool.Lesley Logan 2:17   The guest we had, she talked about how she found herself really wanting to be a support tool, showing people where they could grow, what their superpowers were, as opposed to doing the actual day-to-day work. For me, in the last episode, I talked about how I had created a niche that I wanted to explore out of, and the reality is, because I figured out what my superpower was in that role, it allowed me to apply it to another job. So I didn't get to stay in that job. I got to apply it to my personal, my Profitable Pilates business where I coach people. Because what I'm super, super good at is helping people achieve what their goals are, right? So I want you to have ways of kind of figuring that for yourself, because it may actually allow you to see, "Oh, maybe I'm spending too much time in the areas that are not in alignment, and this other area over here that is in alignment, if I could just spend more time there, I could actually continue on doing things and be in more alignment." Look, I love that you listen to this podcast, seeking out support and inspiration and answers, and that's awesome. And I hope you keep doing that. Also, sometimes we're too often looking outside ourselves for the right answer or the next trend or the perfect formula. I see this all the time in the Pilates industry. Everyone's chasing whatever is going to get them more views instead of talking about what they do best, because most of them don't know. We ask people all the time, "Who do you help? How do you help people? What's your superpower in that?" And they're like, "I help everybody with everything." No way, no fucking way, no way. There has got to be people you would not help. Would you help people who don't want to listen? Okay, well then you don't help everybody, right?Lesley Logan 4:05  Do you help people who don't want to do private sessions or don't want to do group sessions? No, you actually do have a niche. You do have something in there. So I really want us to, I hope that this gives you some permission to recognize that you can curate your own space by going inward and really asking yourself some deep questions that could help you see that you're a badass, right? I did an episode with Balanced Body's podcast called Pilates Perspectives. It came out in June of 2026, so this year. I hope you listen to it because we talk about how, like Joy says, I created a niche within a niche, and I was like, "Yeah." I really created what I needed because it didn't exist, or at least if it did exist, I didn't feel welcome. And I hope this episode gives you permission to curate and create what it is that you need, so that you can show up the way that you want to in full alignment. Okay?Lesley Logan 5:00  I think it's really easy, people look at what I do, and they're like, "Oh my God, she was just all-knowing. She's like I don't know, like I was dropped out of outer space and exactly what I'm doing." But I really did create it, and I created OPC based on like, I was traveling a lot, and I wanted my people to have a way to take class when I was traveling, but I also didn't want them to lose what it is that they loved about in-person classes. That's how I created OPC to be different than what's out there. I created Agency, Profitable Pilates as a space not for franchise owners of 70 studios, but for the single to one or two studios, like the homeowner, home business to single studio or two-studio business owner because they were being left out.Lesley Logan 5:47  The business advice out there is all bro-style, all about KPIs and numbers, and not at all about impact, right? So I created what is needed in the world. Those people, those studio owners need that kind of support because, yes, they can make good money impacting great people. But if they're only listening to the business coaches out there, it's based on churn. It's actually accepting the fact that people are not going to stick around. I want your people to stick around, so I actually want you to have client retention. I want you to get them the benefits that they want. So I am one of those people who sees what's out there and then makes it my own. If you remember my decoupage shoe story, I saw painted shoes and I was like, "Oh, I could do that with this thing, and then that would solve this problem over here." So I'm not an inventor, but I am definitely someone who can spiral out a good idea to help a group of people who don't feel accepted in that, who don't feel seen, right? Like in the Pilates Perspectives podcast, I talked about how I became a Pilates instructor. At the time, it was very weird to not be a dancer and be a Pilates instructor. So I just, now it's not weird at all, but back then it was so weird, and I felt embarrassed, and so I really had to. I became a teacher who clients who didn't feel like they belonged in those spaces could be with, and then that led to teachers feeling like they could be safe in my space, and that led to this. Not that there's anything wrong with the dance teachers at all, that's not what I'm saying. But, you know, we all can't make everyone feel seen. Some of us are better off at making certain people who are who we once were feel the most seen.Lesley Logan 7:30  So, how do you go inward and get into a self-awareness map, if you will, to figure out what unique things you have, so you can get alignment? Okay, so you're going to have three different little circles or groupings that you're going to do. So the first one is values. So when you go into your values—and we actually in Profit Pilates have a great course on how to figure out what your values are. You can actually buy it. It's a really fun little tool that you can do, a little strategy you can do, but your values, right? What are your values? So I want you to think of wherever in your life that you're trying to change, right? So if it's a friendship role or a family role, what are your personal life values? Or if it's a role in a job that you have or in your business, what are your business values, right? What are those values, and then when you have those down, it's going to help you really understand why you're going to say no to things. Because if things don't align with your values, it's not going to work. Now, how do you use those values to find life alignment? Well, I want you to kind of think about if you are in your values, you are actually protecting your peace, your honesty, and your nervous system, right? And your values will have probably changed from today than 10 years ago. So if you haven't done this in a while, it's probably time to update them. But when you look at those values, it's really going to be helpful to go, "Okay, so in the area of my life that I'm trying to change, in the niche that I'm wanting to realign, what about it is out of alignment of these values?" This way, you're going to understand what you should be avoiding, and then also what about it is in alignment with my values. So then you're not throwing the friendship, the job, the event, the thing, the routine out the window. You're going, "Okay, I can keep this part, but this part has to change," and then you can use your values in a way to figure out how that's going to change, right? Or you can ask questions, or you can sit and pause and percolate on it. But you can also just say, "Hey, moving forward, I'm absolutely down with these three things that I said I would do. These two things over here, I'd love to meet with you to see how we can find a new way of doing them, right? Because they're just feeling misaligned."Lesley Logan 11:18  Or maybe there is something that people are needing that would tap into your weird skills, right? Maybe you're really good at listening. Maybe you're really good at organizing. Write them down.Lesley Logan 11:29  Next bucket, I want you to write down your interests. So if it's business, if it's what you do, what are you the most interested in? I have people who are so interested when they come to get coaching from me. I'm like pelvic floor, scoliosis, neurological conditions, osteoporosis. Great, write it down and then go back through. Do you have all the skill sets you need for that? No. Okay, that's on your to-do list. Okay, how does it align with your values? All these things go together, right? What are the world's interests? Like, what are the people in the communitywhat are their interests? Because you want to know what your interests are, and then what are their interests? Because there's going to be a happy little medium, and that's where you're going to plant yourself, right? What do you naturally research or talk about, or what do you do when no one's paying attention or no one's paying you, right? Those are your interests.Lesley Logan 12:17  Okay, so when you can get these things written down, and you can look at them, and you can start to see, "Okay, this is where these overlap. This is where I'm missing some stuff. This is where this is going on. Oh, my interest is this thing over here, but their interest is this thing over here." Okay, whoa, they feel really far apart. Is there a place where those two things overlap in one sliver? It's a little sliver, right? Like if you like Italian and someone likes Mediterranean, there is a sliver of overlap in those two things, right? So, how can you put all this down and then take a moment to see? This is your self-awareness tool. This is how you're going to figure out how to continue to align yourself in things that make sense for you. This is how you're going to start to change things, because if you base things on your values, it becomes a really great filter. If you say yes or raise your hand for things that are within the skill sets that you like and overlap with your interests, oh my gosh, you're going to feel like everything is something that's enjoyable and not a heavy lift even on bad days.Lesley Logan 13:24  So you, my love, you need to understand that you are not starting over. You're not restarting, you're refining, because you have years of accumulated wisdom. You have years of achievements, years of data that you have survived every one of your bad days. And we know everything evolves, and we let other people change their minds and other people do new things. We've got to allow ourselves to pivot because we're not throwing away our past. We are taking every lesson, every communication skill, every ounce of confidence we've ever had, and we're channeling it into something that's lighter and better focused, that's in alignment.Lesley Logan 14:09   And so, I know it's hard when you're a professional overachiever, but I want you to normalize taking some action, some imperfect action, something messy, because that is how you're going to get clarity in your refinement. If you try to plan this entire pivot out, this realignment out without actually taking steps, it is not going to work out because you're not going to be getting to collect data along the way, right? Just like when we do Pilates, I don't watch someone stand still to see if they're aligned. I could, but I actually watch them move because it lets me see: is there any part of that movement they find alignment that they work with balance, or oh no, they always are imbalanced? So that's exactly why when they're standing still, right? We find alignment when we move. You will find alignment in taking action. You will find clarity, and you're refining who you are. So, full permission here granted to refine who you are, to be more aligned with what feels good to you. And I would love to hear the changes that you make, or the things you discover, the values and interests that became more clear. Just send it to thebeitpod.com/questions. You can send your wins in there as well. We'll celebrate you on Fridays. And my love, I hope you like the series. I hope it's helpful for you or a friend in your life. Please share it, and that is how this podcast grows. And until next time, Be It Till You See It .Lesley Logan 15:38  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 16:21  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your hosts Lesley Logan and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 16:25  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 16:30  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 16:37  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 16:40  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Sober Confidential: Growing Quietly with Personal Care, Boundaries, Gratitude, and Creative Living, and Becoming the Person You Were Always Meant to BeIt's been a while since I sat down behind the microphone, and I didn't want to come back with a big announcement or a polished message. I just wanted to have an honest conversation.Lately I've been thinking about personal care, slowing down, protecting my energy, setting healthier boundaries, and learning that not everything has to be shared. Sometimes the most important growth happens quietly, away from the spotlight, while you're simply living your life.In this episode I talk about gratitude and how it changed the way I see my work, my relationships, my creativity, and myself. I share some thoughts on how we change as people, how our brains continue to evolve, and why it's okay to outgrow old habits, old expectations, and even old versions of ourselves.I also share a little about Sober Confidential, the book I've been writing, and why this season of my life feels different. Less about proving something and more about building a life that feels peaceful, meaningful, and sustainable.This isn't a lesson or a speech. It's just a conversation.I'm glad you're here.

Lesley Logan comes back for part three of the Permission to Change series with a look at niches, alignment, and knowing when something you built has stopped fitting. She shares how a job she carefully curated turned into her own set of velvet handcuffs, and why a life that looks good on paper can quietly start to suffocate. Using stories from her own career pivots, she explains why realigning is not the same as failing. What looks like quitting is often just proof you are ready to grow. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:The importance of giving yourself the same permission slip you give others.How to extract yourself from a trap without burning your whole life down.Your past niches give you real data, not vibes, to move forward.Stepping into alignment creates permission for the people around you.Why the people who truly get you will support your evolution, not question it.Episode References/Links:Permission Series Part 1 - https://beitpod.com/ep676Permission Series Part 2 - https://beitpod.com/ep677Ep 709 ft Megan Applegate - https://beitpod.com/ep709Submit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questions If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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It is a sign to get curious about what will work, so you can get back into alignment.Lesley Logan 0:13  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast, where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousans of people around the world, and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity, and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guests will bring bold, executable, intrinsic, and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and be it till you see it. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:56  Hey, Be It babe, we are back with more episodes for that Permission to Change series because you requested it. You asked. We've had two already. You can go back and listen to them, or you can listen to this one. They all stand alone a little bit on their own. This one is actually because this one's a little more nuanced in that it's about niches. Niches is typically thought about as in the niche, the riches are in the niches, like what your business is, but it doesn't have to be that you're an entrepreneur and a niche could actually be a habit or a daily routine or a role in your family. So I think that there's a way too. Whenever you hear niche, you can think of alignment versus alignment, right? And so I want to talk about that. But thanks for being here, this is a solo episode week, so we'll have two episodes in our Permission to Change series. This one, and we'll have another one. They'll kind of go together, and I like doing these. I hope you like listening to them. If you hate them, let us know. If you love them, I would love to hear that too. If there's anything you want us to talk about more, we can do that as well. So I wanted to say, I think a lot of us, at the time that you're actually listening to this podcast, the age that I imagine you are, you have built stuff in your life or in your career or a daily routine, something you have created a role in your family or in your friendship group, and on paper it looks really good, and maybe even for a while, it felt really good. At some point, good things we can outgrow them, right? Can feel a little suffocated, frustrated. You want to change it. What I will say is, some of us will end up burning our whole life down, but that's not actually a good idea. Sometimes it is, but most of the time we just need to extract ourselves from the situation, like surgically remove that and evolve it. Right?Lesley Logan 2:53   I'll have a couple stories for you. So one I've told before, one I've told in different ways, different topics, but it's really applicable. So I had really created a good job for myself. The company I worked for, I was known in it. I was successful. People in power knew who I was. I'd impress them. I had a pretty locked-in schedule. I had power and control, and I could do a lot of things, right? And I was on a day off, and I saw an alert on my phone from a boss that I h a d, and it just sent me into a panic attack because while I had created, curated everything that I thought I wanted, I had been doing it for quite some time and had just gotten a little stale and suffocating and stressful, and I didn't know that you could create your own velvet handcuffs, but that's what I did. And I will say in that instance I did not blow everything up. I actually sat down with Brad and thought about, well, what do I want to do if we could snap our fingers, and then how do we carefully build that up so that I can extract myself from this thing that I've curated? Because you outgrow it. I will say that job was really great when I needed it.Lesley Logan 4:17  In 2010, I had left my full time salaried job, and I was like, "How am I going to make it?" And they're like, "Do you want this job?" And I was like, "Oh, that is how I'm going to make it. Yes." So it had been a lifeline when I needed it, for sure. And then I had created this niche for myself where it felt so great. And then there was parts of my life that I wanted to evolve, and I couldn't because of this trap that I had, my good- on- paper trap that I created. And I think it can be really difficult because we want to move faster. Ladies, w e don't want to ever be seen as a quitter. Everything should look successful, so we often don't remove ourselves from things because how can we explain that to other people? It's so embarrassing. In fact, it took me a long time to get out of a relationship with a partner that I knew a year prior to I really wanted to get out of, and a year prior to that we even took a break. But because it looked good on paper, and leaving there wasn't a good enough excuse in my ADHD brain. How am I going to do this? What are people going to say about me? All this different stuff, right? It really put me in a position where in 2013 I did blow up my life because that's the only way I felt like I had the confidence to actually get out of it. Like I had to do all of it at one time. Looking back, I probably could have done it a little differently, but I'm so grateful. You cannot take anyone's rock bottoms away.Lesley Logan 5:52  I share all this with you because, my loves, too often as recovering perfectionists and overachievers, we often are like, "Well, I said I would do this. I've been successful doing this. This is the thing that I do, so I have to keep doing it. Right?" If you always host Thanksgiving dinners, and it's become a slog, this is your permission slip to no longer host them. If you are always the one setting up dinners with all the girls, and it just feels like no one ever will do it, your full permission to stop. We are allowed to change our mind, to change what works for us, because we are changing all the time. Hello, your body is changing. Your body's changes are signs that even your desires for what feels good in your work and life will change. So we got to give ourselves those permission slips. We give them to other people. Why not ourselves?Lesley Logan 6:43  So, the thing I think about when I think of a niche is it really is meant to teach you, right? So, like data collection, right? Whatever job or project or event you did, there is data, actual data, not just vibes to go back on, and leaving my cush job that I curated for myself was not failure. I left on a high note, and a lot of people thought I was silly to leave, right? But I had this data that I have built every single studio I've ran for them. I have turned it around, so I can do that for other people. Right? So I don't need this cush job anymore because I can do that for other people with my own business that I'm creating. And after 10 years of doing that, I felt like I had to evolve again. If you have noticed the change we made at Profitable Pilates, we started doing that in 2024. Big announcement in 2025. Here we are in 2026, and we have another evolution of it. And it's not because I don't love what I'm doing and I'm not good at it. It's because how I am as a coach has changed, and so then the products that I offer have to change. But because I was in that niche, because I did it for so long, I have the data to back up that not only can I make those changes and still help people and still have an impact on people and still make it affordable for people. But I can do it and be successful at it.Lesley Logan 8:25  So when you have, when you are, whatever that role is in your family or whatever that project is you've always been doing or whatever, or that business you've been doing, you have data from every single time to show you that you're really successful doing those things, and so you can apply that success and that information and that confidence to everything else you're doing, anything else you're doing, right? And I think we can be really hard on ourselves, especially my ADHD friends, because it looks like we can be flaky because we bounce from one thing to the next. But our brain isn't, we're not flaky. Our brain is literally looking for a dopamine high. So, what I highly recommend, my ADHD loves who are listening, is if you feel like you're bouncing all around all the time and you haven't actually dug into a niche to get that data, then you do need to get systems in place. You do need to get some support from an ADHD expert who can help you put systems in place so that you can get the data from a niche, and then you can find better alignment in other places. You can apply that to where you are drawn to for better alignment. Doesn't mean you have to stick with something you don't like. No, I'm not saying that at all. But you do need to have systems in place so you can get the data, so you can get the confidence, so that you can move on. So you're not seeing yourself as a flaky person, but instead someone who has information and is making better decisions, right? There's, it's a nice way to reframe it. I do think that a lot of us are afraid to change our routines, our habits, our titles, our roles, because we are afraid of what people will think. They'll think we quit, or we must have failed, or there's something wrong with us, and so that creates like a social anxiety. We often feel like we have to figure out a way to articulate it in a way that people can understand us, but my love, that's just your perfectionist talking, because I actually think that the people who truly love and care for you don't need you to be perfect. They need you to be honest, and when you evolve, when you step into alignment, you are actually giving other people permission to do the same.Lesley Logan 10:43  So, for example, when I became a Pilates instructor, everybody told me to charge less than these other people because they've been teaching longer than me, like $5. And I was like, "That's so okay. Yeah, I get that. Like, they have more experience than me, but like I'm gonna have to work more hours to make the money I thought I could make doing this." And then I was like, "Well, who are you basing your rates off of?" And they're like, "Oh, we're basing our rates off of this person over here." And I was like, "Well, who are you basing your rates off of?" And they're basing this person over here. And I was like, "Well, when did you raise your rates last?" And they were like, "Oh, I just lowered them because of what's going on with the economy." I was like, "Holy fuck! Everyone is basing their rates off of someone who isn't even giving room for anyone to be underneath them to grow."Lesley Logan 11:26  My loves, every time you step into alignment, you are creating a permission structure for those around you, r ight? The rates I charge for sessions allow people who do have less experience than me to make a livable wage, right? So, if people around you don't understand what you're doing, one, that's okay. They're allowed to not understand. You do not have to explain it to them. And two, if they're judging you for it, they're probably not your people, right? So, permission to change friend groups, and I know it's hard as an adult. It's hard to make friends, right? It's truly difficult. There's a reason why my husband and I are best friends, and I know people think that's so weird and whatever, blah blah blah. But honestly, in today's world, for how our lives are, if he wasn't, I would probably not see my friends very much. So it's really nice. But he gets me, and I get him, and we get to give each other reminders to evolve. And hey, you're out of alignment. So the people around you should actually be like, yeah, I saw this coming, and not like, why did you do that? Because if they truly get you, they will see that you are out of alignment, and then this thing you're doing is stepping into alignment. If they are worried about how this affects them, then they'll be a little frustrated, and that's okay. They're allowed to be frustrated. You don't have to do things for other people ever. In fact, if you go back to our slowing down series, you will discover that the more you are curious, the more you are able to see what's going on around you. The easier it's for you to see, like, oh, these are my people, and oh, those aren't my people. That doesn't mean you ditch them. It just means that you don't do things for their benefit. You do things for you, and if it doesn't benefit them, it's okay. It is okay, my people pleasers. It's okay.Lesley Logan 13:27  All right, so this is a quick episode, but I just wanted to say that in your life, a lot of things that worked will stop working, and that is not a sign to force it to work. It is a sign to get curious about what will work, so you can get back into alignment. This podcast has evolved; the niche of this podcast has evolved because you have, you, the listener; me, the host. We have evolved. So, in order for this to keep working, it has to be in alignment for what we need, right? So, if you allow me to step into my alignment, you have to allow you to step into your alignment. Can't have standards for other people that we won't give to ourselves. We can't give freedoms to other people we don't give to ourselves. You are so worthy to change things that no longer feel aligned. You're allowed to extract the data from the experience you've had to build up your self-trust and your confidence, so that you know that going into this new thing, you're going to be successful over there too. Because you were successful here, you can learn new things. Look, you did it over there. Goes back to that episode with the guest we had, I believe Megan Applegate, who is like a resume builder, right? She's like, you need to take stock of all of your accomplishments, every single thing you did, even if you're a part of a team, because it's all part of helping you have self-trust and confidence that you can do new things. You can apply that to a new job, apply it to a new niche or a new role, or a new event.Lesley Logan 15:00  All right, take some stock, take some data collection time this week. We'll come back with another episode helping you find your superpower. So if you're someone who realizes you're out of alignment and you're not sure what alignment is, we're going to talk about that, so you don't have to start all the way over because that's not always ideal either. So send this to a friend who needs to hear it. And until next time, Be It Till You See It .Lesley Logan 15:20  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 16:02  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 16:07  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 16:12  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 16:19  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 16:22  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Being an adult is hard. Having ADHD makes asking for help harder still. Lesley Logan opens up about a doctor's appointment that ate up her entire day and left her more frustrated than when she started. She is honest about how exhausting it is to ask for support, and just as honest that finding real purpose does not require a grand plan. Because wins do not have to be huge to count, sometimes they just have four legs. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Why getting diagnosed with ADHD was its own difficult thing.A doctor's appointment that left Lesley feeling unsupported.What a Friends episode has to do with Lesley fostering a dog.Who actually earned the win this week according to Lesley.Her mantra for the weekend and why she wants you saying it.Episode References/Links:Submit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questions If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentCheck out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentBe in the know with all the workshops at OPC https://workshops.onlinepilatesclasses.com/lp-workshop-waitlistBe It Till You See It Podcast Survey https://pod.lesleylogan.co/be-it-podcasts-surveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates Mentorship https://lesleylogan.co/elevate/FREE Ditching Busy Webinar https://ditchingbusy.com/Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gLesley Logan website https://lesleylogan.co/Be It Till You See It Podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjogqXLnfyhS5VlU4rdzlnQProfitable Pilates https://profitablepilates.com/about/Follow Us on Social Media:Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lesley.logan/The Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gFacebook https://www.facebook.com/llogan.pilatesLinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesley-logan/The OPC YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@OnlinePilatesClasses Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  It's Fuck Yeah Friday. Brad Crowell 0:01  Fuck yeah. Lesley Logan 0:02  Get ready for some wins. Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:50  Oh my god, I do love these. I hope you do, too. They're super fun, they're quick, they're easy, they make us feel like human beings, and they truly are here to help us do more of what we love and be it till we see it. And in doing that means we're not perfect, and so sometimes I think people think, oh, it's so easy for her, blah blah blah blah, or she makes it look so easy. Nothing is easy, my friends. Every day there's a new obstacle, okay, every day there is some sort of fire to put out, there is something going on. And so I am hoping that with the "I need a moment" added to this episode, and then my win, it's helping you see I get pissed off at things too, things don't always go my way as well, because we're all humans just trying to make our way through this world. Lesley Logan 1:33  So today's rant is this. All right. So, I have ADHD, and I mean, obviously you can hear that I have ADHD, and I knew that going in and getting diagnosed with ADHD and getting the support for ADHD was going to be its own difficult thing, because I hate phone calls, I hate doctor appointments, I hate this stuff, and now I have to have a monthly appointment. So, super excited because one, got the appointment, got the medication I needed, went to the second appointment, everything is good. Was told I get telemedicine, phenomenal. So excited. Then, then my doctor moved offices, and I had to start all over, and I had to go in because I couldn't do telemedicine with this person, because she'd never met me before. Gonna drive 25 minutes through construction to get to her. The person at the front desk, did they greet me? They're like, "No, go fill out the tablet over there." Right? She's like, "Oh, you can fill out the tablet over there." So I fill out the tablet that I'm there. Super annoying, because then I went to the bathroom, and then I'm waiting in the waiting room, like a person does, and then they call me in to do all of my weights and my blood pressure, and ask them all these questions, and they're like, okay, we need to go have you do a urine sample. And I'm like, but I just went to the bathroom, why didn't your girl, who's sitting in the front desk, tell me don't pee? So I'm frustrated, because with technology being added to these documents, great. Okay, maybe that's one less person. I didn't have to stand there and wait while she finished her phone call. I don't care, because now I have to sit there and wait until I have to pee again, so I can leave. I'm just frustrated because it's really hard to get the help you need, and then when you get the help you need, and you're like, nailed it, this is going to be great and easy, and make my life easier, they go and make your life harder, and then they add on to it. And so, at any rate, being an adult is hard, and it's like the people who make the rules for people with ADHD don't understand what it's like to have ADHD. Like, everything about that appointment is more than, I had to cancel the whole day because I had to do that. I was like, I can't, I can't do anything else today after this. This is too much. This is too stressful, too much of my brain. Lesley Logan 3:41  Anyways, I know my ADHD people, I know you feel me, I know you get me. So, what's the win? The win that I want to celebrate with you guys this week is that we fostered another dog. So, if you've been listening to all the FYFs, you've heard me talk about Darla. I think one of them... we fostered another dog, and I'm gonna call it a win this week, because you know what, there's a lot going on, and fostering this dog is a gift. I remember the Friends episode where Phoebe's like, there's no good, there's like no selfless deed, like every good thing you do is for selfish reasons. 1,000% on this case. Okay, so fostering this dog is so much fun, because one, I get this new dog in the house, which is just so fun. She's so cute. I get to love on her, and I get the dog love from her. And then I get everyone who's like, "Oh my god, it's so sweet of you to foster." It's like, it is so sweet. So I get words of affirmation, I get to feel like I have so much purpose. Like, all of a sudden fostering a dog has become my way of, I make myself feel so good about myself, but you can do that too, you can go foster a dog and feel so, you'll have the same feeling, I promise you. If you have felt like, what's my purpose in life, go foster a dog, you will all of a sudden feel like, wow, I'm one of the best people on the whole planet. Lesley Logan 5:00  So, our win. This is the second dog we're fostering. Really, the win is Bayon's, because Bayon got along with her, and at first, it looked like she was gonna drive Bayon crazy, but I think she's (inaudible) around Bayon, she's like, I don't know if I like him, I think he's too much for me. But she is cute, she's got a great waddle. Hopefully, by the time you hear this episode, she's been more than adopted, and my goal of this year being a foster dog house is, we're two now, we're at two, and that's that's the win. All right, see, wins don't have to be huge, they can be that you're volunteering, you have a lot to brag about, because it inspires other people too. Lesley Logan 5:38  All right, here we go, your mantra for the weekend, ready? I am a beautiful person, both inside and out. I am a beautiful person, both inside and out. Babe, you are a beautiful person, both inside and out. Believe that. All right. Share our podcast with friends who need to hear it. Send your wins into the beitpod.com/questions. You can also in that link send where you'd like topics for us to have on, different experts you'd like me to interview, or want me to do a solo episode on, or if you like the solo, just give us some feedback, let us know, right? If that's too much for you, you're like, oh my god, my ADHD won't allow me to do that, well, then talk about the pod, or join OPC and be a member of our OPC platform, because that's where we hang out, and we can do Pilates together and support you in all that you're doing, all right. Until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 6:23  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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Lesley Logan and Brad Crowell break down the conversation with recruiter and resume writer Megan Applegate, founder of Career Blueprint Solutions. They unpack why a blank LinkedIn profile can make even strong candidates look like they don't exist, how to frame your resume around the value you deliver instead of a list of duties, and why staying comfortable quietly keeps your career stuck. They also share a four-step plan for positioning yourself for the promotion you already may be qualified for. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Applying for roles even when you don't check every box.Why a blank LinkedIn profile makes strong candidates look invisible.Recognizing the cost of comfort and why discomfort means you're growing.How speaking your imposter syndrome out loud can be really helpful.A four-step plan to position yourself for your next promotion.Episode References/Links:upLift First Time Teacher Training Program - https://xxll.co/uwseLevate Live Q&A - https://lesleylogan.co/elevate2026 Summer Tour (powered by Balanced Body) - https://opc.me/tourOPC Pilates Flashcards - https://opc.me/flashcardsPilates Posters - https://opc.me/postersProject Marilyn – projectmarilyn.comMegan Applegate on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/meganapplegateMegan Applegate on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/dreamjobaheadCareer Blueprint Solutions - https://beitpod.com/careerblueprintsolutionEp 226 ft Ryan May McAvoy - https://beitpod.com/ep226Ep 691 ft Clare Solly - https://beitpod.com/ep691Submit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questions If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentCheck out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentBe in the know with all the workshops at OPC https://workshops.onlinepilatesclasses.com/lp-workshop-waitlistBe It Till You See It Podcast Survey https://pod.lesleylogan.co/be-it-podcasts-surveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates Mentorship https://lesleylogan.co/elevate/FREE Ditching Busy Webinar https://ditchingbusy.com/Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gLesley Logan website https://lesleylogan.co/Be It Till You See It Podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjogqXLnfyhS5VlU4rdzlnQProfitable Pilates https://profitablepilates.com/about/Follow Us on Social Media:Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lesley.logan/The Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gFacebook https://www.facebook.com/llogan.pilatesLinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesley-logan/The OPC YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@OnlinePilatesClasses Episode Transcript:Brad Crowell 0:00  Growth is only possible when you realize that getting uncomfortable is where you actually need to be, and that can be, well, uncomfortable, scary, a little bit scary, but you may already be doing some things that will help take you to the next level.Lesley Logan 0:16  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Brad Crowell 0:59  All right, let's do this. So today is the 710 Megan Applegate. Take it away there, Lesley.Lesley Logan 1:08  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap, where my co-host life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the strategic convo I had with Megan Applegate in our last episode.Brad Crowell 1:10  Oh yeah, it was strategic.Lesley Logan 1:17  She is a resume whisperer Brad Crowell 1:21  and LinkedIn QueenLesley Logan 1:22  Yes, which we all need, me included. But I just kind of, I'm like, you guys, if you have been one of those people who doesn't apply for a job because you don't qualify for all parts, you need to talk to Megan, because she's a badass. Anyways, before we get into that, you can go listen to her right now, and then listen to us talk about some stuff before we talk about Megan.Brad Crowell 1:39  Yeah.Lesley Logan 1:40  Today is July 23rd 2026, and it's National Gorgeous Grandma Day. So, today we celebrate the incredible grandmothers in our lives each year. This special day encourages us to recognize their timeless beauty, unwavering love, and invaluable wisdom. As we're reading this, I'm just thinking about my two grandmas, and I'm just gonna say,Brad Crowell 1:58  invaluable wisdom, Lesley Logan 2:00  unwavering love, I'm not so sure, I will give them their... timeless beauty... my grandmother was beautiful. Both my grandmothers are beautiful in their own way. One looks like an actual grandmother from the day I was out of the womb, and the other one had tattooed eyeliner and purple hair, so.Brad Crowell 2:17  Amazing.Lesley Logan 2:18  Anyways, invaluable wisdom. Show your appreciation by spending quality time, showering them with gifts, or simply telling them how gorgeous they truly are. Seriously, if your gorgeous grandma is still here on this earth, pause this now and call her, and then come back, because we're going to talk about Megan Applegate. Brad inserted that very seamless, and it's in there. He knows I don't read these things before we get them on the air, so I'm like that one reporter, Keith Olbermann always makes fun of him, because he just reads whatever's on the teleprompter. I would just get myself in so much trouble because I would just read what's on the teleprompter, but then I'm like, what?Brad Crowell 2:49  Hilarious.Lesley Logan 2:49  Unwavering love and invaluable wisdom. Well, one of my grandmothers, the first time she drove, she backed the truck into a tree and left the engine running until it died, backed into a tree, and so she never got a driver's license. So that was some wisdom.Brad Crowell 3:05  Never drove again, that's hilarious.Lesley Logan 3:08  She was a stubborn one. Anyways, you guys, I have a teacher training program that I've been talking about online now, so I have to share it here. If you listen to the FYFs, I've been kind of hinting at a project that I've been working on for quite some time, and I'm really proud of the work I'm doing. Now we can actually share it, so it's all true. It's called upLift, and the L is capital in that, because I like to be cute. It's going to start probably early next year, and you'll be able to find an epic teacher trainer near you that will host my program. So if you know someone who wants to become a Pilates instructor, or you're listening to this and you've done some instructor training but not a full comprehensive, you're going to want to get on the waitlist to go through the upLift program, which is xxlll.co/uws. Now, if you are already comprehensively trained and you would prefer to train directly with me, then you actually want to be in my mentorship program, or some people call it a master's program, and you want to go to eLevate. We already have done a live Q&A call, because it happens on July 9th.Brad Crowell 4:13  And that's what, oh. Lesley Logan 4:15  This is July 23rd, 2026. I just said the date, it's National Grandma's Day, so looking at Brad in real time trying to make this sheet. So anyways, you missed the live call, but you can still watch it and hear all about it. If there's any spaces in 2028, go to lesleylogan.co/elevate. Now, if you're like, "2028, that's so far away," look, if you just want to go through the training that I've created, upLift is going to be for you in 2027 and you can be with one of my educators. If you want to be with me, then you want to be in eLevate. If you want to be an upLift educator, you need to go through eLevate, so there's all that. Okay.Brad Crowell 4:48  If you want to be an upLlift educator, yes, you have to go through eLevate as well. So, if you have questions about that, just. Lesley Logan 4:54  If you are like, "This is my first time. Why does everyone rave about the show? What the fuck are they talking about, the grandmas and Pilates?" Just keep listening, it gets better. Okay, stick to it. We're gonna "be it till you see it" for you. Our summer tour is literally around the corner. We are leaving next week, I think, or maybe in 10 days. Yeah, so at the time of this recording, the first two stops are sold out. The third stop is in Nashville, and it has the workshop space left. Knoxville is our rooftop mat class repertoire. Brad Crowell 5:26  That is gonna be so fun. I'm really looking forward to that.Lesley Logan 5:29  Same, me too. And then we'll be back in Greensboro. We've never been in Greensboro in the summer, so this is really exciting. It's a really cool studio, it's an old mill. And then we're gonna be in Augusta, Georgia, and then we're gonna be in Atlanta. Look, the time we're recording this, it had three spots left total at that stop, and then someone just bought one, so there are two spots left at the time of recording, which is,Brad Crowell 5:48  in Atlanta,Lesley Logan 5:49  in Atlanta, Then Huntsville, Alabama has five spots left today, which is not today when you're listening to this, so check. Then we have Birmingham, Alabama, and then Jackson, Mississippi, both of those had two spots left today. And then we have Frisco, Texas, which is north of Dallas. There was room, there's plenty of room in the workshop there as of today. Not plenty, but there's room. El Paso, we're gonna have a Spanish,Brad Crowell 6:12  This is gonna be really cool.Lesley Logan 6:14  translator, in Spanish. I've.Brad Crowell 6:16  It's our first stop in El Paso to teach.Lesley Logan 6:19  Yeah.Brad Crowell 6:19  So really, really excited about that. And yeah, first time having a translator in the United States.Lesley Logan 6:03  I'm so excited! I've had translators before, but this is gonna be so fun, but not in the States, so this is gonna be great. So we are in El Paso, and then we're gonna be in Tucson, a couple spots left there, and then Vegas, and that's half sold out. So all this is the bragging to say, get your tickets, what are you waiting for? opc.me/tourBrad Crowell 6:30  opc.me/tour Lesley Logan 6:32  It is powered by Balanced Body, which means we have gift certificates, prizes, and we're bringing Contrology equipment for you to try out. So, you're going to want to go do that. And then, if you are new here, don't forget to check out our Pilates flashcards. We'll have them at the tour, but you can actually get them from us. I had someone ask me, "Is it better to get from you directly or from Amazon?" And I said, if you like giving Jeff Bezos money, you can get it from Amazon, but if you want to give a small business, a family-owned team money, which means the money goes to, first of all, if you buy flashcards from us, we give money to the Nevada SPCA, and we give money to our team, and all that good stuff, and we can keep making these flashcards, you go to opc.me/flashcards. So, anyway, she said, "Of course, I love supporting small businesses," and I said, "Thank you." And then we also have posters, and people have been asking about this. You want to know something? Don't buy the ones on Temu, they stole mine. You are welcome, while we are waiting for them to take that shit down, to go find them and leave a shitty review. Tell them that they're stealing, because they fucking are. But you can buy ours that have good images.Brad Crowell 7:49  Tell us how you really feel.Lesley Logan 7:50  I'm so fucking pissed. I'm pissed, but I have my "I need a moment" on the Fuck Yeah Fridays now. I think I've mentioned it already there. But at any rate, opc.me/posters is where you get the posters, and you kind of want both, just saying.Brad Crowell 8:04  Kind of want both.Lesley Logan 8:05  And the posters ship from wherever they print around the world. So, my peeps who live internationally, the shipping on the posters is not going to be terrible. The flashcards, so sorry for where you live, but we do have people in high places like Canada and Australia, and we are working on some othersBrad Crowell 8:22  Working on the UK,Lesley Logan 8:23  working on the UK. We've got a couple of options. You know what? Think time travel, things move slowly. Just gonna say it, my brain moves fast, but things move slow. All right, as you know, we talk about a charity, and this week's charity, who's up, Brad?Brad Crowell 8:36  Yeah, this week we are featuring Project Marilyn. This week we're highlighting Project Marilyn, a Las Vegas nonprofit fighting period poverty right here in southern Nevada. Founded in 2019 by Wendi, I am gonna butcher this name, Schweigart,Lesley Logan 8:52  or Schweigart,Brad Crowell 8:52  Schweigart, and named after her late mother, Marilyn, the organization,Lesley Logan 8:56  Who was probably a gorgeous grandma.Brad Crowell 8:57  Well, clearly, she must be a gorgeous grandma because she had a daughter, so.Lesley Logan 9:02  Well, she had a daughter. Her daughter might not have a daughter, but her daughter is giving. Brad Crowell 9:05  Oh, she's probably a gorgeous grandma.Lesley Logan 9:06  Her daughter is giving period supplies for free to all these kids around here, so she kind of has a lot of grandkids. Brad Crowell 9:13  Yeah, the organization makes sure everyone has a healthy, dignified period by providing monthly bags of tampons, pads, and hygiene wipes to people who cannot afford them, supplies that are among the least donated and most overlooked basic needs out there, and programs like SNAP and WIC won't cover.Lesley Logan 9:29  It's like your food stamps.Brad Crowell 9:31  Yeah, so what started with one woman honoring her mom has grown into a real local force, a volunteer crew called the Period Posse, back-to-back best nonprofit recognition in the Las Vegas Review-Journal's Best of Las Vegas Reader Poll, and a tripling of its reach in just the last couple of years, all while staying lean and locally run. If you've ever taken a clean, dignified period for granted, this is the chance to make sure someone else can, too.Lesley Logan 9:57  Also, so many of us who have all the access to all the period supplies in the world have had moments where it doesn't feel dignified, and so if you're like.Brad Crowell 10:06  Also, we charge a lot for that too. It's very, it's taxed.Lesley Logan 10:11  It's taxed, it's fucking annoying. If men needed period supplies, they'd be fucking free, and I know it feels like we harp on that, but truly, it would. The fucking female razors are more expensive, and they're the same fucking thing, they just make them pink and charge more. So, if you are like, "Guys, why did you do a Las Vegas one?" I actually have had connections with Project Marilyn. I've been at different charity events that they're at, they do really great work. If you are in Las Vegas and you go to their website, you can actually find out where they have locations for free period supplies, like the local library. You go and you just say, "I have a package from Marilyn," and they will just give you free period supplies. Isn't that the cutest thing? Brad Crowell 10:35  That's pretty cute. Lesley Logan 10:37  There's another organization that sponsors them that's more national, and that is the Alliance for Period Supplies, and they are doing really great work trying to do different things in the legislation, and also work on ending period poverty. It looks like this one works with smaller organizations to keep getting the supplies out there.Brad Crowell 11:09  Yeah, go to projectmarilyn.com M-A-R-I-L-Y-N if you want to donate, or if you're looking for something a little more national, theLesley Logan 11:17  allianceforperiodsupplies.org. Just so we're all clear, 76% of Americans believe period supplies should be free of charge at public schools and public universities, and you know where they were free my whole adult life? Equinox. I could get free period supplies at my fancy gym.Brad Crowell 11:34  Did not know that.Lesley Logan 11:35  Yes, I could, you can. So it was perks of being a member. But anyways, I just really like this, I like the idea. I think if we could help, it would also be great if these period people businesses would stop making the tampons in crinkly, loud paper, so these poor girls don't have to hide it in their sleeve and it crinkles, and then everyone knows what they're doing. Stop making things embarrassing, and also teach boys to not be assholes about it. All right, now we're good. I'm off my soapbox.Brad Crowell 12:02  Hey, if you have a charity that we think we should feature, or if you have a question that we might answer on our Sunday YouTube lives, go to beitpod.com/questions that's beitpod.com/questions and you can leave us either a win for the Friday episodes, or a question, or Lesley Logan 12:17  No questions. You can leave a charity. The link is so outdated, but we're not changing it, because it's living there. The questions we answer on Sundays on YouTube. Brad Crowell 12:25  That's what I was gonna say. So you can send in your question, and we'll answer it on YouTube on Sundays if you want to.Lesley Logan 12:31  All right, I guess, yeah.Brad Crowell 12:32  So stick around, we'll be right back. Brad Crowell 12:35  All right, so let's talk about Megan Applegate. She's the founder of Career Blueprint Solutions, and a recruiter, resume writer, and career coach who has spent the last seven years helping high achievers land the roles they actually want. After a 20-year career in hospitality, she pivoted into recruiting and built her business from the ground up. Today, she guides clients through the realities of modern hiring, from getting past the applicant tracking systems to positioning themselves on LinkedIn so the right opportunities come directly to them.Lesley Logan 13:06  Yeah, I was really excited to have her on because, you know, not everyone who listens to this wants to have their own business. A lot of people who listen to this want a good job, and there's so much uncertainty in the world with AI and all these different things. I'm tired of hearing the statistics, even though we've known it for years, where women are just not necessarily applying for jobs because they don't hit all the boxes they think. She has really navigated the change in how you apply for things, how you position yourself, and she's quite good at it in a way that made me feel like, "Oh, I could fucking have a resume." I mean, I'm not gonna do it, it's like writing my bio, just makes me cry, but for people who need that... We just had Clare Solly on, talking about exiting a career, exiting a job, whether it's your choice or someone else's, and so I just thought this is a really great resource for everyone who was really inspired by that episode. Something I love that she said is to understand that as you grow, you will naturally pivot your career or business, and I thought that was really cool because I think it's really easy to compare ourselves to past generations where we feel like our jobs are not linear, so then we look spastic. It's like, no, actually, it just shows that you are learning, and that learning is taking you into another direction, and your curiosities are taking you to different places. She said it's important to stay relevant by constantly questioning your methods and asking, "Should I do this differently?" I think that is a great thing that we could be doing because it forces us to actually keep our brain young and involved in what's going on. Sometimes we just get so set in doing things the same way, and there might be a better, faster way, or a way that actually challenges you, or a way that you could learn something new, because if you are learning every single day, it really does keep you current and up to date on what's going on, makes you more hireable.Brad Crowell 14:56  Yeah, I mean, it's easy to just sit back and be like, "Okay, I got this. It's rote," and so you're not actually staying on top of the industry and the changes in the tech and all that stuff.Lesley Logan 15:08  Well, it's also hard. We have so much things to do.Brad Crowell 15:13  but one of the things that we do in our company is we challenge our team and we say, "Hey, look, you are the expert on video editing, let's just say, so when you're out there scrolling through Instagram, and you're in your world doing your thing, and you find a tool that you think makes sense to help you with this job, that's the kind of thing that you're going to come across where we are not. If it's relevant, then you can bring it into the conversation." What does that tell me as the employer? "Oh, this person is paying attention, they're trying to be more efficient or find better tools," and that goes a long way. Honestly, if you're a Pilates teacher, this is effectively continuing education. It's the same kind of thing.Lesley Logan 15:56  Well, and also, it's interesting because, speaking of Pilates education, I announced the teacher training yesterday before I recorded this, and I had immediately someone going, "Well, is there going to be workshops after the program?" And I was like, "Of course. Also, first, people have to go through the program," so there probably won't be that until after 2028, and maybe even longer, because they won't know what continuing education they want to do. What I loved about what Megan was saying is, yes, keep learning every day, and go with what's exciting for you and challenging you. because the thing that happens is, too often we are like, "I have to learn everything," and then I got people taking both perimenopause andBrad Crowell 16:40  pelvic floor Lesley Logan 16:41  and neurologicalLesley Logan 16:43  and scoliosis and Lesley Logan 16:44  neural, so those are, and then your neurological stuff, and then you've got people who want to like study, like NFL people, and it's like you, that's too many different types of people, you can't be an expert, you'll get overwhelmed, and that's going to stress you out, so you won't know what you're most interested in or who you're attracting. Then you get good at what you're doing, and you're like, "Oh, I trust this expertise," that's what Megan said, and then you're gonna go, "Oh, I'm gonna go over here and learn this thing," right, and take every day, as she said, and learn. So I think it does take some time. You got to get good at your job so you know what the job is, and then you got to go, "I could do this better, or faster, we could be doing this over here," and when you do those things, your bosses do pay attention, and then you have to make note of that because it's going to help you if you want to switch jobs. It's totally fine to switch careers and switch jobs because you might be intrigued. Anyways, I want to get into what you love, so. Brad Crowell 17:35  Well, I mean, it rolls right into it. I was going to focus on what she was talking about, the cost of comfort, right? And so it's effectively the same thing. If you're like, "This is rote, I don't have to think about it, I'm just clocking in and clocking out," there is a cost to that. Basically, what she said is that it equals staying stagnant and the same. When you're comfortable, growth is only possible when you realize that getting uncomfortable is where you actually need to be, and that can be, well, uncomfortable, scary, a little bit scary, but you may already be doing some things that will help take you to the next level. When you are thinking bigger, thinking outside the box, when you are applying other things you're learning to your current job, it's going to shift and change, and it might be a little bit uncomfortable. You might actually have to go have a conversation with the person that you work for and say, "I had this thought, what do you think about this?" That actually brings to their attention that you're thinking, forward thinking, but it also helps when you're uncomfortable. It's consistently challenging and challenges you in a way where imposter syndrome can be easy to have sneak in, so you're constantly pushing against that. It's a muscle, the more you practice being in an uncomfortable place, the stronger you will be when you're battling the imposter syndrome.Lesley Logan 19:13  I just had someone tell me that they're putting off doing this one thing because they just had this imposter syndrome around it, and they're like, "I'm already doing this thing over here, if I take the final test, then I don't know, if I fail, it would just kill me." And I was like, "Oh my gosh, you have imposter syndrome. You have gone to extra workshops, you've done a comprehensive training. There are shitty teachers out there who've done one training who are stealing my lines and someone else's lines and putting it out there, and because of their sexy outfit, need thousands of followers, and they're asshole teachers. You are a great teacher, and you're letting imposter syndrome keep you from finishing? No, no. Next time you have imposter, think about the asshole teacher who does not care as much as you out there making the money you're not making." Sometimes you have to figure out that there are people who are not deserving of the job or the thing or the role or the raise that you need and want and deserve, and they're getting it because they're not getting stuck in the imposter, they're not letting the wall hit them.Brad Crowell 20:12  Yeah, I think imposter syndrome is so tough because it's almost always an internal conversation. It's very rare that someone else is like, "You're not qualified to do this." Now, there are haters on the internet that are gonna leave comments that say that, and those people can take a long walk, but this conversation typically happens hidden in your own head. In those moments, you could speak it out loud.Lesley Logan 20:38  Oh yeah, if you say it out loud, it does sound really... it does sometimes sound a little silly, it doesn't have as much power. You're like, "Whoa, what a weird thing to think."Brad Crowell 20:46  Yeah, the other day I was battling an internal conversation, and I thought, "What's the worst that could happen? Like, what is the absolute worst scenario in this fear that I have?" And then I spoke it out loud, like, "Oh my god, everything could come crumbling down," or whatever it was. Then I thought about, okay, well, what if that did happen? What would happen next? What would happen after that? I'd have to get back up and start over. And would I do it? Yeah, I would. It would probably not be fun or exciting, but now I would go back into it knowing all the things that I know today, and I would skip every mistake that I made the first time through doing whatever the thing was, because I already have the lived experience and knowledge, right?Lesley Logan 21:37  Yeah.Brad Crowell 21:38  So yeah, imposter syndrome, when you speak that out loud, that can be really helpful.Lesley Logan 21:43  Yeah, I like that idea. I think it's just also so easy to get in your head and say those things for yourself because someone somewhere along the lines told you it, or made you feel that way. Now it's just this thing. Honestly, when I was studying with BJ Fogg about habits, unraveling those thoughts is really difficult to do because you have to be aware that you're having the thought at the time to unravel what's the prompt that's happening. But at some point you do become aware, and that's where just speaking out loud will be helpful because it does take its power away. Brad Crowell 22:15  Yeah. Lesley Logan 22:16  And if you were to tell your best friend you were having that thought, for fucking sure they would be like, "What the fuck are you talking about?"Brad Crowell 22:17  Are you kidding? What's going on here?Lesley Logan 22:26  Like this one thing I went to, they made us all write down the things that we say to ourselves, you know, the shitty things we say to ourselves, and just write them down, and then. Brad Crowell 22:34  Read them out loud.Lesley Logan 22:36  Get this.Brad Crowell 22:37  Come on.Lesley Logan 22:37  They, even worse, they asked for two volunteers, and these two girls stood up. Brad Crowell 22:41  Switched.Lesley Logan 22:43  They made them switch the letters.Brad Crowell 22:45  Oh my god. Lesley Logan 22:45  And then, read it, look the person in the face and read it. "You're ugly, you're fat, you don't know what you're talking about." I'm crying. "You don't know what you're doing, you made these stupid mistakes." And they can't get through the letter because they are crying because they're like, "Well, it's not true, this isn't her." And they're like, "It's not true for you, you're crying because you know..." Anyways, oh my god, it's so awful, but it works. Brad Crowell 23:10  That's powerful. Lesley Logan 23:11  I don't know, maybe it's drama, but you gotta speak it out loud.Brad Crowell 23:17  Gotta speak it out loud. All right, well, stick around, we'll be right back. Brad Crowell 23:23  All right, welcome back. Let's dig into those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic, or targeted action items can we take away from your combo with Megan Applegate? She said, "Shift your perspective to view your resume like a sales document that paints a picture of your value." Now, there's so much in that one sentence, shift your perspective so that you view your resume like a sales document that paints the picture of your value. After listening to this interview, it was really interesting because one of the things she kind of slid in there but one of my biggest takeaways, was she said, "I get these amazing, fantastic candidates for roles, and as a recruiter, I recruit them to then place them," and she said they have all the things, they look good, they are successful, they've got an amazing history, they've got the resume, but then when they go to their LinkedIn, it's empty,Lesley Logan 24:13  right,Brad Crowell 24:13  and it makes them look like they don't exist,Lesley Logan 24:16  are not on top of their shit, they're not present,Brad Crowell 24:18  yeah, and so it was really interesting, because we coach people all the time when they're like, "Do you have to post on Instagram? Like, no, but yes, because you don't have to post every four seconds on Instagram. But if someone in your neighborhood is like, "Oh, I'm looking for a Pilates teacher, and they look up a blank Instagram profile, they're gonna be like, Lesley Logan 24:36  Is it open? Brad Crowell 24:36  Is this person real? You know, I'm not sure.Lesley Logan 24:39  Yeah, you don't have to post daily, but you could post once a week, even every other week, as long as it looks like, oh, they were around.Brad Crowell 24:44  Yeah, honestly, even once a month, it's just that there needs to be something there for them to see. Lesley Logan 24:49  For them to see the experience that they're going to get. Brad Crowell 24:51  So, with the LinkedIn thing, though, she said you want to be positioning yourself as a thought leader,Lesley Logan 24:58  yeah,Brad Crowell 24:59  and I thought, oh, that's really. Interesting. What does that mean? What does it mean to be a thought leader?Lesley Logan 25:03  Our guest, Ryan May McAvoy, kicks ass up this on LinkedIn. If you want to see an example besides Megan Applegate, Ryan May McAvoy will blow your mind. She is a thought leader in the HR world. So, I think about her all the time.Brad Crowell 25:16  Yeah, so how do we do that? What I would say is, if you had a second teacher in your studio, or even if it's a home studio, let's just pretend you have a second teacher, right, and you tell the person here at my studio, "This is how we do the thing," whatever the thing is, when they come in the door, we have a smile on our face, we treat them with whatever. These are thought leader kind of thoughts, where you're sharing your perspective, your expectation, what you want to do. It doesn't have to be a super long 20-page article, it can just be quick snippets of things that you expect or do for your space, for your clients. Honestly, once you get started doing this, it comes easier down the road because you start to get the hang of it, but it allows you to have an ongoing timeline of events on your LinkedIn profile. If and when you ever did need to build a resume, she said this is great because if you treat your resume like a sales document that paints the picture of your value, where are you pulling the resume stuff from? If your thought leading is about a win that you just experienced, "Today I sold a 10-pack," and it doesn't seem like it's a big deal for people who don't understand the industry, but it's a big deal. What does it actually mean? It means that a client made a decision to better power their life and all the things, and I get to be here guiding them through that experience, right? You could be saying, "All right, cool, now that was my first 10-pack, now I've sold 20 10-packs to different clients," and it kind of operates like a description of your career in a way. If you're marking these wins right, celebrating these wins and turning them into some kind of a thought that you're just sharing on your profile, then later, if you ever have someone look at your profile, it looks like you're a real person.Lesley Logan 27:21  Yeah, I love that.Brad Crowell 27:23  Yeah, what about you?Lesley Logan 27:24  Well, she had a four-step executable plan for career advancement, so I thought that'd be fun to repeat, which is start by deciding if you want to stay in your field and specifically understand where that next promotion is. So the next step will actually help you with that, but I thought, what a great action step you could take right now. Then search the internet for relevant job descriptions to find the key language, the KPIs, and the keywords employers are using. This way you can start to see what wins you have that are around those things, because you might already be ready for the promotion at another company, or you can actually strategically position yourself for a promotion in your own company. Look at those descriptions to figure out what they're saying and what they need and the problems that they've solved, so you can position yourself as a solution. That goes back to Brad's thing on your resume. Then update your resume and LinkedIn to signal where people can find you so they can reach out for that specific role. So you're literally taking all the things that your next job wants, and then fixing up your LinkedIn and your resume so it's ready, and then you... I don't know, you turn your light on, and that's what they call it, right? They turn a light on on LinkedIn.Brad Crowell 28:32  I have no idea.Lesley Logan 28:33  I think you do, and then other people, and that's how Clare Solly got the great job that she has.Brad Crowell 28:39  Yeah.Lesley Logan 28:39  Yeah, you turn your light on, right? Is that what you do? Brad Crowell 28:42  Open to work. Yes, turn your light on.Lesley Logan 28:44  Yeah.Brad Crowell 28:45  Most likely looking to activate the open to work feature. So, I don't think they call it turn your light on, but it's called open to work.Lesley Logan 28:51  I guess you can't call it turn your light on because it sounds like Roxanne. What's the one. Brad Crowell 28:56  That's exactly the one that you referenced in the interview?Lesley Logan 28:58  What's the song? Turn your light on. What's the song?Brad Crowell 29:03  Are you talking about Santana? Put your lights on.Lesley Logan 29:06  No.Brad Crowell 29:07  "Turn your light on." The Overtones? I don't actually..Lesley Logan 29:12  I guess Roxanne would go, "Don't turn the light on." And then, but there is, there's a song. It's in my head. It doesn't matter. Brad Crowell 29:20  I tried find it, because you referenced it, and I did not find it. So, there is a Judas Priest song, turn your light on.Lesley Logan 29:26  I wonder if I know Judas Priest. Ah, so the ADHD fails. It's like it's in there, it's in there. You guys, I'm Lesley Logan.Brad Crowell 29:34  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 29:35  Megan Applegate had some great tools for you as well. So, make sure you go to her website and check her out, because she definitely has some really great tools. You can go find her on LinkedIn and do all that stuff. Listen to her on the episode, because she's brilliant. So, if this really resonates with you, I'm Lesley Logan.Brad Crowell 29:48  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 29:49  You should send this episode to a friend who hates her job right now.Brad Crowell 29:51  Yeah.Lesley Logan 29:52  That's who this episode goes to.Brad Crowell 29:53  It's who it's for.Lesley Logan 29:54  Megan's episode goes there. This one is an interesting introduction to me and Brad. Thank you. Go Be It Till You See It.Brad Crowell 30:01  Bye for now.Lesley Logan 30:03  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. 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Megan Applegate spent twenty years in hospitality before becoming a recruiter, resume writer, and career coach. In this episode she and Lesley Logan dig into why finding work feels so different right now and what still gives people an edge in their career. Megan shares grounded strategies for standing out, rebuilding confidence after a setback, and getting noticed by the right people. Whether you love your job or are ready for a change, this conversation gives you real steps to feel ready for what is next. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Why the old resume playbook may no longer get you hired.Mapping job descriptions to prove you already qualify for the role.The old colleague trick that quietly dissolves imposter syndrome.Optimizing your LinkedIn so recruiters can actually find you.What you should never say when an interview gets uncomfortable.Episode References/Links:Gecko Hospitality – https://www.geckohospitality.comMegan Applegate on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/meganapplegateMegan Applegate on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/dreamjobaheadStrengthsFinder Test – https://high5test.com/cliftonstrengths-free/Career Blueprint Solutions - https://beitpod.com/careerblueprintsolutionEp 691 ft Clare Solly - https://beitpod.com/ep691Submit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsGuest Bio:Megan Applegate, Founder of Career Blueprint Solutions. After a powerhouse 20-year career in the hospitality industry, Megan did the unthinkable: she walked away from the familiar to build a recruiting and career development empire, with zero formal training and no financial safety net. Today, as the Founder of Career Blueprint Solutions, she uses that same "all-in" grit to help high-achievers navigate their own pivots. Known as the Recruiter Insider, she deconstructs the hiring process through her proprietary T.A.P. Protocol, moving professionals from "guessing" to "certainty" and helping them architect a legacy career that matches their true market value. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:57  All right, Be It babe. We're gonna get into it, because this episode is great. This is for those of you who are like, "Oh my god, I don't love my job, but I don't want to work for myself," or, "Shit, I'm out of a job and I need help." We have the resume queen, I literally called her a doula, she is so great. I learned so much. I don't even need a resume right now, or probably hopefully ever, I love what I do, but I know many of you do. No matter what your role is in this world, there are tips for you here. I don't care if you love where you're at, you're going to want to listen to these tips or write them down. They're so, so tangible, tactile, things you can actually do and check off and feel good about yourself. So, here is Megan Applegate.Lesley Logan 1:41  All right, Be It, babe. I'm really excited. We haven't had a topic like this in a long time, and it's definitely time to be talking about this topic. And we have the best guest I could even think about, because I was doing a lot of research on this one, and I'm really excited because Megan Applegate is here, and she is... well, I'm gonna let her tell you everything that she does. So, Megan, what do you rock at?Megan Applegate 2:00  Yeah, so thank you for having me, Lesley. I'm very excited to be here, and I'm one of those people that was a 20-year veteran in the hospitality industry, and thought I loved what I did for so long until I realized that I didn't. And when that happened, I didn't really know, and next I had something fall in my lap, and now I've turned into a recruiter, a resume writer, a career coach, and entrepreneur in the last seven years. So a huge pivot, huge turn, but I love what I do now. It's completely different. It's a beast in both ways, right? Good and bad, if there is a good or a bad, I don't know that there always is, but I love what I do.Lesley Logan 2:48  Oh, Megan, I agree. Nothing's ever as good or as bad as we think it's going to be, but there's always the good and the bad. But hold on, 20 years in hospitality? I mean, I don't even know how one person lasts in hospitality. That's a long time to deal with the people.Megan Applegate 3:01  Yeah, yeah, it is.Lesley Logan 3:04  Was it like, did you have to deprogram, or did you have to remind yourself you're not in hospitality anymore? How did you, you know what I mean? It's hard to make a big shift to shift careers.Megan Applegate 3:15  Yeah, I would say yes and no, only because part of what turned into a different career involves hospitality, so it made it a little bit easier when I was approached with the opportunity to get into the first business that I own and do, and then from there it came into a second one that I own on my own now. So, with that being said, I still actually love hospitality. I still love the people, and I know it so well. But now I get to recruit in it and help people find jobs in it. So it's almost like just taking what I already knew and learning a whole new sector of it, which I think is cool.Lesley Logan 3:56  Right, right, like going to a deeper level on that. So, instead of being, I guess, B to C, where you're working with the people in the hospitality, now you're working with the people who are going to work with the people.Megan Applegate 4:08  Correct. Yeah, on the recruiting side, it's both. It's finding the clients that need us to help them with the headhunting, finding these top talented professionals, and then also being the advocate and that career agent for the candidates, and understanding both sides of what that looks like. A lot of people only know one side and they don't know both, and so it's almost like an advantage to understand how to help people navigate that knowledge that you otherwise have, right? Because.Lesley Logan 4:41  The hirer is like, "We need these people who can do these things."Megan Applegate 4:44  Yeah.Lesley Logan 4:44  And then the people are like, "How come no one's looking at my resume? How come people don't see the greatness that I have?" And really, you're kind of a mediator slash negotiator slash doula.Megan Applegate 4:59  Yeah, it's been an interesting adventure. I'm seven years in deep with this change, and it's proven to move me in all kinds of different directions, which I'm excited to get into.Lesley Logan 5:13  Yeah, I would love to get to that. Before we dive into some stuff, I do want to chat about... seven years is a long time to look back at who you were and how that was. When you were leaving hospitality and coming into this, or maybe you fell into it, were there things that you had to work on with yourself to step into this? "I'm now the entrepreneur, now I'm not working for this company, I'm working for myself." How did you help yourself change that mentality?Megan Applegate 5:42  Yeah. Well, there's all kinds of emotions. I think there's so many we could talk about, right? It's very sticky. You're excited but scared. At some point I didn't trust myself. So, there was a lot of working on understanding that you just have to keep trying new things to see what will work, and to trust your expertise and what you're learning to do, and I think that was a big lesson for me. I think, as an entrepreneur, I just had this vibe of, like, now I get to be as successful as I want to be, right? I'm going to make so much money and all these things. Because when you're working for somebody, there's a cap on you, and so when you change into that mode of "I'm so passionate about what I do and my expertise," when you don't see that happen overnight, it can be a little daunting, you know, to be like, "Wow, hey, is it me? Am I doing something wrong? Can I not trust myself? Am I not..." I mean, there's so many things, because if you've never owned a business, how do you know, right? So, I think there's a lot of that that went into setting the ground rules of understanding you just have to take every day, every day, every day, and learn and learn and learn, and you will pivot and pivot and pivot, and I still do to this day. I think, "Can I do this differently? Should I do this differently?" I think I'm on my third version of the newest business I have, just because I keep learning.Lesley Logan 7:18  Yeah, I understand that a lot. I love that you share that. When you work at a place, you get to leave at the end of the shift or the day with your salary, going, "Okay, I did the things I was supposed to do on this day," or, "I'm behind on two things, okay." But when you are working for yourself, you really have to define what "done" is and what success is, because otherwise it can feel like it's too easy to go with vibes. I've been working for myself for so long, and I still have to remind myself to not go off vibes. My husband's like... I'm like, "Oh my god, things aren't going really well right now." He's like, "Let's look at the data, because vibes... no, we're not doing vibes right now. Data is always better." Lesley Logan 8:04  Okay. So, one of the reasons why I have you on is because I do feel like right now there's a lot of uncertainty when it comes to finding work. If people have a job, they're staying whether they like it or not, which always bothers me, because we shouldn't let employers treat us badly or be in a place that's not right for us. But there's a lot of uncertainty, and then there's people who are wanting to switch careers and look into something else, and this is Be It Till You See It. I wanted to pick your brain and talk a little bit about how can people who are seeking out work highlight themselves, or what should they be thinking about? I don't know, that's 17 questions, Megan. You are the expert here. I haven't had to fill out a resume in so long.Megan Applegate 8:47  Yeah, well, neither have a lot of the clients I do work with, truthfully. Things have changed and shifted so much lately in what looking for a new job is and what that strategy is. It used to be like if you had longevity, you had great companies on your resume, and you had a few connections, then it would be super simple. And now people come to me, and they're like, "The game has changed, what do I do?" Because it is, especially with AI and all of the platforms that are involved, and all this weaving in of... you can't just rely on what you've done in the past. Right now we're in a huge employee market where it's very competitive to look for a job. People are being flooded because you make it so easy to apply to jobs these days. You just hit the easy button, right?Lesley Logan 9:47  Yeah, I just heard this ad where you can almost pay for this extra thing so you're the first person, you're on the top of the pile. You remember how you used to be able to pay to be "A" on Southwest Airlines? Like, pay to get your resume to be the top of the pile on those online things. I was like, "Oh my god, this is just like... that's only the people who have the extra money can do that."Megan Applegate 10:09  Well, honestly, and I don't even know that I believe that, really knowing what I know about how that works. And so it's all about understanding that you have to be a problem solver, and you have to realize that if you can paint the picture... it's like your resume is a sales document. We are so in tune as humans to not understand what we are actually really good at, and no one seems to understand that they need to keep track of all of these wins. You get in a job and you just get so focused on what you're doing in one lane that we're never thinking two more steps or two more years down the road to be like, "Am I documenting? Do I know what I want to do next? Am I continually networking with people? What am I doing right now that is above what every other person is doing?" If you're not constantly thinking about that and understanding that you're creating your own brand, you just get stuck in the hole, and then five years later things have changed, and you're like, "Oh my god, what am I doing?" And it's very scary. You're thinking, "Well, I have all this experience, and I meet this job description that's online, but yet no one's calling me." That's where I have realized, in my experience, there's so many nuances around getting through the ATS system, getting by the recruiter who looks at your resume for 10 seconds, finally getting to the hiring manager, and then trying to convince them in that one-third of your resume of why they should call you. There's so many different things. I wish I had a magic bullet just to say "do this one thing and you'll be fine," but unfortunately it's a strategy. It's truly a game these days.Lesley Logan 12:04  And it's so... you're like... so on the podcast every Friday, we celebrate wins. I think they're really important. Most people won't send a win in until they've completed something, and I'm like, "A win is, you know, you got up today." Sometimes that's a win. But I love that you highlight: are you documenting things that you're doing or things that you've learned? Because I have found, since I don't have to build a resume, one of the things I have to do is submit to get CECs for things that I train people on. So I have to show that I've had education from these places, or to teach this workshop, "When did I learn that thing?" And if we're not taking time for just a little document, just some running note like an achievement or a compliment you got at work, I love this, because then, with the help of AI, you can really put your wins together in a nice, concise little paragraph. You could do that, but if you're not documenting, it's really hard to remember what you did two years ago. Especially when you're not happy at your job, you're forgetting that you had a win.Megan Applegate 12:59  Yeah, and it's not just always about what you do individually. It's about looking at what you're doing as a team. And people think, "Well, I can't take credit for that," and I'm like, "Why not?" They just get very down in the weeds of what should be on a resume, and it becomes this long laundry list of things that are not relevant, and I think that that is one of the biggest things is before you can build that, you have to know where you're going. I mean, who is your audience? Who are you talking to?Lesley Logan 13:33  So then do we have to change our resume for every single application?Megan Applegate 13:38  No, no, you don't. No. And honestly, a lot of people have that in their head that they have to. There's definitely things you can tweak within the resume, just keywords in general, if that fits more specifically to one thing versus another in your industry, if it's this job versus this job. But no, you shouldn't have to change it every time. You just need to have a point of view. You need to be somebody that solves problems, and you need to know who your audience is, and you need to know where you're going. If you don't know, then again, how can you put together your narrative of what problems do I even need to set to solve?Lesley Logan 14:29  Yeah, I agree. And I love this, because this episode's coming out after my girlfriend and I chatted about exiting a job, either on your terms or not on your terms, right? And so we had a really good chat about that, and this is such an even greater follow-up because ideally you're thinking about this before it's not on your terms, right? Ideally you're doing this while you have something else, because there's a lot more confidence while you're getting paid to go look for something else. I always say it's easier to get another job while you have a job. I guess I worry about some of my people who have that fake imposter syndrome, I call it fake because they are successful, they have done amazing things, and for whatever reason, they either lost the job that they were in, or their life changed and they had to take a pause in work, and now they're coming back into it. As you said, the game has changed. It's like when people realize the dating game has changed; now the resume game has changed. Is there a pep talk to give people? How do they know where they're going? How do we get them off the ground and go, "You are good, let's pull out these wins." Are there things that they can do?Megan Applegate 15:34  Yeah, I mean, I think that just understanding... I always tell people when I work with them, I'm like, go out on the internet and find... Well, first of all, before you even do that, what excites you? Let's just dive down a little bit further into, "This is what you do, but do you love every single part of this, or do we want to focus on what you truly let go and then you just succeed with? What motivates you? What are your strengths?" Finding that is number one, especially if you're thinking about pivoting. I think there's nothing wrong, I mean, I did it, and yes, it was from a 20-year career into entrepreneurship, but I work with a lot of people that will pivot into a completely different industry. And when we work on that, we start with that: what makes you tick, what would you love to do every day, and get them excited about that. Then once you kind of understand that, you can actually go out and start to truly find those jobs, find where those jobs are, look at those job descriptions, and map what you are really good at with what it's saying. I think that will a lot of times pull people out to be like, "Oh, okay, so I do have a lot more wins and what it takes to get a job." I also say find a colleague, find an old colleague, somebody that can remind you how great you are, because, like you mentioned, the imposter syndrome, that is a huge wall that people bump into all the time. I get comments about a resume that I redo for someone, and they're like, "Megan, are you sure this is even me? I feel like an imposter here," and I'm like, "Yeah, it is you. You just don't understand that it's okay." This is the one time that it's okay to vibe on yourself. Sometimes we don't see it because we're in it all the time, we're in the weeds of our own everyday life, and therefore because we live that, we don't see ourselves as an expert because we just assume everyone has the same kind of knowledge that we do. So I always tell people, find what's important, what you love, find somebody... most people have a BFF at work of some kind, right? Even if it was a couple jobs ago, ask them for coffee, ask them just to be like, "Hey, can you help me kind of energize and re-remember all that I did that was amazing," especially if you haven't written it down.Lesley Logan 18:27  I love this, because one, everybody wants to be helpful. People just want to be helpful, right? And you're not asking them for a job, you're actually asking them, like, "Hey, can we just go over that time we did some things? I'm struggling here." People want to be your cheerleader, and you're gonna give them this opportunity. I think this is a brilliant... I remember years ago, my husband and I were trying to apply for a Global Entry card, and they wanted your last 10 years of addresses. Of course, when you're apartment living, that could be 10 addresses. I remember Brad asking one of his roommates, "Hey, do you remember our address here?" And the guy's like, "I don't know, check eBay." And it was like, oh, hold on, there's this place that's holding all these addresses that I had things shipped to. But sometimes we just have to ask someone. The thing is, they're not in it.Megan Applegate 19:10  They're not stuck in your everyday life that you just live in and assume that everyone else knows what that looks like.Lesley Logan 19:20  Yeah, yeah. Do you think the internal barrier that people get stuck on is the imposter syndrome? Is it not believing in themselves? What is on the inside of people that makes them realize or think that they're not able to do this, to put themselves out there and get a job that they deserve?Megan Applegate 19:40  I think it's partly that, but I don't think it's fully that. I think most people just don't know these days what the strategy is, and to know that there's so much that they do that's probably already at that next level in the first place. So that's why I'm always saying go find some job descriptions. If you're a senior whatever, and you want to be a director, go find what that looks like, and then find where you have correlations to it. Because I think that once you can do that, it helps kind of boost that confidence to be like, "Oh yeah, you know, I can do that," or you kind of understand where your shortcomings are and you can work on, "Okay, so I need more leadership experience," or what have you, if I want to get to where you're going. But if we just kind of stay where we're comfortable... we always talk about we're comfortable, but what does that equal?Lesley Logan 20:44  Yeah.Megan Applegate 20:45  Right? It equals stagnant in the same.Lesley Logan 20:48  Yeah, yeah.Megan Applegate 20:49  So getting uncomfortable is where we need to be..Lesley Logan 20:51  Well, also, that's so funny that you said that. I would never have thought... that's like a total 'be it till you see it.' Look at the job that you'd want to have. What are they asking that that person has, and then you can recognize where you have it and where you don't. But also, there's that statistic that women won't apply unless they're 10 out of 10, and men will apply at a 4 out of 10, or whatever it is. But I love that, because you can really see, and that will help you highlight, "Oh, hold on," it might even jog your memory of the things that you've done and really pull it up there. I think that's a brilliant strategy that I would never have thought about, because it's like, "Oh, this is a job that I've done, so this is a job that I'm ready for." But a lot of people are thinking they have to get promoted before they can go somewhere else to get the job that they want, but you might be able to step into a role at a level that you want to be at because they actually need what you've already been doing.Megan Applegate 21:46  Yeah, and that's a huge part of the recruiting side that I've learned, too. If you want to be recruited for a promotion, and not only what you're doing taking you from one job to another that's the same, you have to have the right signal, if you kind of think about it that way. From a recruiting perspective, not necessarily just a resume where you're actually sending resumes out and that kind of thing, there's so many things that we can do from promoting your own brand, and part of that, especially with LinkedIn, is who... again, we go back to that audience. Who are you trying to signal? Are you signaling to anybody? Are you even visible? Can you get recruited, and if you can, does it point to where you want to go next, or are you stuck in just the laundry list of what you've done? Is it forward-thinking to that next role, or are you just in the past?Lesley Logan 22:49  Can we go this route? Because, first of all, LinkedIn is like a thing. I work for myself.Megan Applegate 22:56  You're like, I'm not on LinkedIn, I don't know. Lesley Logan 22:58  And everyone's like, "Lesley, you've got to be on LinkedIn, because all those women there would do your Pilates classes online because they're busy and amazing." And I'm like, I don't even know how to break through on LinkedIn. But one of my girlfriends, the job that she has now, which is like a dream role, which I can't say what it is, but if I did, everyone would be like, "How did she get that job?" It's because she turned her light on on her LinkedIn. She had it pointing towards what she wanted, not what she was at, and she got it. Someone was like, "Hey, you should apply for this," and then she fucking got it. I was like, "That's how it works?" I had no idea. I would have thought a thousand people were applying for that job, you know? And they might have been.Megan Applegate 23:46  Yeah. Well, but it's true. I mean, honestly, there's so many people that have a profile on LinkedIn, and they might have a picture, and they might have the basics, and that is it. And I'm like, "Why even bother, truthfully?" It's funny that you say that, because I'm the opposite. I am very, very strong on LinkedIn because of what I do, but yet, Instagram, I'm like, "Oh my god, what am I doing?"Lesley Logan 24:15  Honestly, Megan, I really should just learn how to be on LinkedIn, because that might be the safest, quietest, non-stressful place to be.Megan Applegate 24:24  It is. I will agree with that. I do see that sometimes people, if you're a little bit controversial in what you say in advice, some people will get on there. But honestly, those are the times where it just goes, "Oh my god, all of a sudden 15,000 people just saw this because of this one jerk."Lesley Logan 24:46  That's great.Megan Applegate 24:46  I'm pretty sure Instagram could do the same thing, but yeah, LinkedIn is huge, and people don't always see that. I know it's social media, not everyone loves it, especially the older generation, which a lot of times are the people that I work with that get to the point of, "I've been in my job for so long, and I'm just struggling to even get an interview, and what's going on?" So I work a lot with that age group, and they're like, "But I don't know how to be on LinkedIn, I don't know how to be online." I'm like, honestly, you don't have to be active all the time. You just have to have a profile that signals the right thing, that's completely optimized. It uses the right keywords for that job that you want. Have a background image that says your name and your contact information, have a headline that says what you want. Just teaching people how to understand what, as a recruiter, I'm looking for, and what pops up when I'm looking. So you can just do that. You don't have to Lesley Logan 25:53  be active that much because the optimization will do the work for you, because recruiters will find you. And as long as it doesn't look like you've been distant for seven years, it's been updated, it's not as much as like, "I have to post on Instagram almost daily if I want to stay relevant." I don't think you have to do that on LinkedIn to get a good job.Megan Applegate 26:13  No, you don't, because again, there's one side that's the recruiter piece of it that just tells us who you are. Maybe even just sharing things once in a while. You don't even have to have your own feed that says a lot. If you want to become a little bit more of an executive level, I would say posting some, just so that you could be a thought leader. Specifically, your expertise will help you even more, because it just shows you have a voice, a perspective, and you're active. A lot of times when I find somebody, they might look good, but then I realize after talking to them that it's from four or five years ago, and they haven't touched it since, and it's not even updated, right? I'm just like.Lesley Logan 27:03  Yeah, because you don't want to waste your time either. Okay, so you know people are... there's a lot of worry that AI is going to take all of our jobs, and I'm sure at some point it probably will. But is that something that people have to be worried about, or is it again just figuring out what they want to be doing, and then selling themselves above, or do they have to understand how to use it? What is the working job-seeking market right now? What's the misunderstanding about that, that if they just kind of understood it better, they would be able to be hireable or have the dream job that they're still looking for? Because I do think people might be worried that their dream job is gone.Megan Applegate 27:41  Right. Yeah, I mean, that's totally valid, and I agree with you. I can't say that won't happen in some cases. I don't see that happening to an extreme where we're all gonna all of a sudden be unemployed. I think for me, and what I try and help my clients with, is understanding AI, you have to treat it as your friend. You cannot think about it as a negative, because it just is what it is, right? It's here to stay, and if we just push against it, we are just pushing ourselves further down the line of, "I can't, I won't, it's terrible." We have to look at it like, what do you need to do to maybe upskill, so that you give yourself more variety of what you can do in your lane, right? And really, you might have to think about what does that look like. I'm not a prepper personally, that's a lot for me even to think about. But in this realm, in job searching, and in the strategy, and just not even just when you're out of a job, but in general, if we look at the whole of what should we be doing in our world of career advancement, even if we have a job, we have to always be thinking about where does my path lead next. Who can I connect with? Where can I build my brand? Where can I be an expert? Where can I upskill the skills or something I want to do, so that you're always putting yourself to have an option, right? The option, or multiple options, ultimately is the goal. Because when we don't, and all of a sudden shit happens and you get laid off, and you're just like, "Oh, hell, what am I doing?" If you would have put yourself in a position to be ready for that, even if it was a year from now, for people to find you, to have your resume updated, to be present on LinkedIn, to be networking, to have an idea of where you want to go, get in front of having some of those skills, then your life will be so much easier.Megan Applegate 30:00  I love, I agree. I mean, like, it's not, you don't have to be like the prep, or like, the world is gonna fall down, but also, like, having, having, I mean, that's what I mean, just like, have an idea of where you want to go, where you want to grow, and keeping that in your mind's eye, because also you don't want to be at a job that you don't like either, like, that's just gonna suck, and suck you dry. We've been talking a lot, like, to help, like, the employee out. I do want to, like, we do have people who, like, are employers, and I will say, like, recently we had a hire for a role, and we've had the same person for so long, and they went, they're like, "I'm going on maternity leave forever," and I'm like, "That's so nice for you. Okay, great, thanks for letting me know now." But it took, I will say, it took us so long to hire someone because everyone was using AI to answer everything. We love that you can use it, but we actually would like to know what your personality is like. We hire on personality around here, because sometimes you have to do different roles, like sometimes you have to step in and fill for someone. So great, but who are you? Do you fit with the family? What are some things that employers should be doing to have their light on correctly so that they're really attracting? Because that's hard. It was frustrating how many people... Are you using AI on the call right now with me? Are you literally? You're not even answering the question, you're reading the answer.Megan Applegate 31:30  Oh my gosh, yeah, that's hard. I have a lot of clients that started utilizing video more than anything else. And again, I know I could still be reading AI somewhere in this office, right? But we are making people do a lot more video interviews so that you cannot hide behind the phone and things like that. People can see you. We've had clients that are insisting that the candidate basically record themselves for 30 seconds to a minute so that they can send in a video that is not necessarily anything to do with the job, but like, "Who are you? Do you have a personality? Would you fit in? And why would you potentially want to work for us?" And I'll be honest, the candidates are pushing back. They're like, "Wait a second." And I get it a little bit, because we don't want anyone to think that someone's hiring on appearance, right? Because that's the danger zone.Lesley Logan 32:49  Yes, correct.Megan Applegate 32:50  But at the same time, you will eventually be in person with somebody if you're good at interviewing, and you shouldn't just hire somebody over the phone like that. I do see that's where things are going, where they're almost not giving a chance, they have to be in person, they have to show their personalities in order to be vetted, to even be accepted. And getting away... it's one thing to have the technical piece of it, you got to have these platforms, you got to know this, you got to know this. But I think gone are a lot of the predictive index personality tests that you take, and it just says whether you're a great score or not, which I'm just like, man, those suck, right? Why? But anyways, I think that people are going away from that and just trying to get a little bit more personal.Lesley Logan 33:55  Yeah. I love that. For a lot of the work that we've had to hire, sometimes it's just a project-based thing, if people won't get on a camera with us, it's like, "Well, I can't hire you, because how do I know you're the one doing it? How do I know you're not outsourcing it to something else?" I don't want just random people working with me; I want to be working with the person I'm working with. And so that has been an interesting thing, how many people are like, "Oh yeah..." and it's like, "Okay, then no." So, on the job descriptions, we'll do an interview, you have to answer me on camera these things, because we don't want to waste anyone's time. I don't want to waste time with, "Oh, fill this out." And then I will say, for us, we still do a StrengthsFinder test, but after we are pretty sure we're gonna hire them. Because we actually just want to know what are your top five strengths, just so we can fit. Especially if you're my assistant, you cannot have the same strengths as me, because it's not gonna work out.Megan Applegate 34:53  Yeah, no, and I think that's a great approach. One of the companies I work with actually utilizes that when we're looking for recruiters. They're like, make us do something similar, but it's based on the recruiter approach of what makes a good recruiter, right?Lesley Logan 35:15  Yeah.Megan Applegate 35:15  So it's not a break or make; it's like, "Here's how to manage this person.Lesley Logan 35:20  Yes.Megan Applegate 35:21  Based on their personalities.Lesley Logan 35:22  Yes.Megan Applegate 35:23  Based on whether they're more extrovert, or they're more systems-driven compliance, or are they just gonna do whatever they want." So I think that there's definitely value in that, as long as it's truly not a make or break. I have a client we're working with right now where they have to take the assessment first, and that will determine whether they even get their first interview.Lesley Logan 35:47  I think that's terrible, because I'm a terrible test taker, so that would make me very nervous to get past that to get to the interview. I think I would be better after I did the interview, once I knew you don't want to know the person, anyways. Megan Applegate 36:01  Hopefully there was so much to be said, you know. We go in a million different directions, but real quick, when you get to the actual interview side of this whole strategy here, I mean, there's so much to be said about personality, how you can connect with people, how you can make yourself memorable, how you can leave impressions, and people will make decisions on that over anything else.Lesley Logan 36:27  You are 100% correct. Lesley Logan 36:28  I'm definitely someone, I had to give myself a rule of 24 hours. I have to wait 24 hours because I would just get wooed by people. I need 24 hours because the thing that bothered me about them will come to me in 24 hours. But can we real quick, for people who are interviewing, who get nervous, who have sweaty palms... we already know that if you have a confident stance you're more likely to get the job, but also, are there things people should not say in an interview?Megan Applegate 37:01  The only thing I tell people not to say is just don't bad mouth the last employer. Don't place blame, don't say, "We didn't make this because of this person." Nobody wants to hear that, even if you have horror stories and you really want somebody to truly understand and feel for you about what you've been through with your last job. It's kind of a gimme, but you can't do anything like that. Everything has to be positive. And I think sometimes, especially if it's a bad situation, the less you say the better. People are so scared to go in and be like, "But I was fired," or, "Something happened," and I'm like, let them ask you about it, don't bring it up. And then when they do, you state a fact, and then hopefully you point the direction and you move past it. You don't state the fact and then give the laundry list of why. If they want to know, they'll keep asking, and you just have to keep being truthful, honest, transparent, and not placing blame. If you did something wrong, say it, but you are the only one that's seeing that fear there. If you can just be like, "I am gonna say what it is, and then we're just gonna move on," I think that helps a little bit.Lesley Logan 38:33  Yeah, because also it's not like the people who hire you haven't experienced either losing a job or exiting a job. They're human beings too, you know what I mean? They've had people that they love that they hired that got fired, these things happen. So I think that's about not letting it be, "Oh, let me over-explain this thing."Megan Applegate 38:55  It goes back to their resume too. People get really specific about numbers and details, and I'm like, "I need metric-driven information to make it seem like you've got solutions and you're solving problems and all this stuff," which is proven to help people with resumes. But they'll be like, "I don't know about 15% or was it 30%?" and I'm like, nobody will fact-check you, I promise. Don't overthink it. No one is going to be like, "I'm going to call and I'm going to find out if this is true or not." Don't lie—I don't mean that. Don't inflate where it's like, "Really? I question that." But it's more of a psychological impression. You just have to get out of your own way sometimes around that and meet me in the middle, is all I'm saying. Don't be too much this way, and don't be too much this way. You have to be in the middle.Lesley Logan 39:58  Megan, what are you most excited about right now?Megan Applegate 40:02  I am most excited about starting to potentially think about building my own team with the career coach side. I don't think I fully mentioned this before, but the first piece of what I do with recruiting is with Gecko Hospitality. It's a national, recruiting, hospitality-specific firm, and it's a franchise model, which is how I got into it. It was a little bit easier when I first started the business for North Carolina and Missouri. And then from that, four years in, came the baby of this second business, coming into the resume writing and the career coaching and that side of, "Oh my gosh, there's so much that people don't know, I need to help them." So that piece of it, I'm starting to get to the point where I'm ready to build a little bit of a team there. So that's exciting.Lesley Logan 41:01  That's so cool. I'm like, "Oh my god, I'm not even looking for a job, and I want help with my resume from you."Megan Applegate 41:10  I'm sure you went through this too years ago, of just like, "Okay, I can't handle this anymore," and recognizing that starting a business from the ground up, there's so many things to do. You have to know what you're good at and what you're not good at, and figure how to hire people, or at least get help with those things. It took me a long time to realize that; I was just like, "I can do it all." No, you can't.Lesley Logan 41:33  And also, you have to do it all sometimes so that you can hire the right people for it. But also, in order to grow, you've got to, unless you just like it where it's at. But if you want it to be more, you want to help more people, and I actually feel like we're at a place where you're going to have more people who are going to need help with their resumes of standing out. Because with the changes and the companies that are adopting AI, people are going to need to really be thinking about what other things they can highlight that they've done, because there's a ton of stuff that AI cannot do well, you know.Megan Applegate 42:09  Absolutely. They can put a well-structured sentence together, but what information do they have to be able to do that? And then you don't sound real, and that's a problem, like you said.Lesley Logan 42:25  I was watching some ads, and I was like, "AI wrote that," because no one talks like that. No one actually goes "however," and no one says "quippy" in everything that they say. This one girl on Instagram was like, "Oh, I love what you're saying," but you are reading a script that you ran through AI with your idea, and I think I would have just liked your raw idea, because I would have been able... you know what I mean? I would feel like I was talking to a girlfriend; I feel like I'm talking to a bot. Anyways, oh my gosh, well, I'm so excited for you. We're gonna take a brief break and find out how people can work with you and get their resume helped, and their career coaching and all that stuff, and then your Be It Action Items.Megan Applegate 42:56  Awesome.Lesley Logan 42:57  Okay, Megan, where do you hang out? If we've got people who are like, "I should start talking to her now, because I don't know where things are gonna be next year," where can they work with you?Megan Applegate 43:05  LinkedIn, as we talked about, is probably the best place to find me. I've got a couple different businesses, but just find me, Megan Applegate, on LinkedIn. My Instagram handle is @dreamjobahead, and my website is careerblueprintsolutions.com so, those are the three areas.Lesley Logan 43:22  I love it. I love it. We'll link everything below, you guys. This is definitely an episode I know people are going to send to friends, because everyone has a friend who is needing this help right now. You've given some really great strategies, actually. But we love to end with a bold, executable, intrinsic, or targeted step people can take to be it till they see it. What do you have for us?Megan Applegate 43:40  I think we kind of talked about some of it, but if you want my four tips in terms of actually being ready for a job, I would say understand where you want to go, that is number one. Actually go out and figure out, "Okay, I've been in this industry, do I want to stay, and if I do, where do I want to go?" Always understand where that next promotion is. Once you figure that out, go out onto the internet, find those job descriptions, save them, find the key language, the KPIs, the keywords, whatever you want to call it, figure out what they're saying they need and the problems that they solved. Then go to LinkedIn and find two to three people on LinkedIn that have that job, look through their profile, and hopefully it's pretty complete, and figure out what they're doing. Then you have to go and update your resume and your LinkedIn profile to signal where people can find you so they'll call you for that next role.Lesley Logan 44:47  So doable. Like, actually doable, one step at a time. One step leads to the next step, you can't skip ahead, and then you're gonna turn your light on. Megan Applegate 44:56  Turn your light on, be visible. Absolutely, love that term. I'm gonna start utilizing that now.Lesley Logan 45:05  Is it Roxanne? "You don't have to turn your light on," that's the wrong song. There's another song. Brad will tell us what it is on the recap. Megan, you are a gem. I really do appreciate this, because I've had so many people come on and tell people, "Go and follow your dreams, follow your bliss," but some people, their bliss is working for companies and being in a role and doing the good work. This is the first time I've been able to really support them in actionable strategy, so I just want to say thank you for being you and being the blueprint career coach that you are. I feel so grateful. My loves, we already said it, but I'm gonna say it again: send this to a friend who needs to hear it. Leave a review for this podcast. Go check out Megan Applegate's website and her on LinkedIn, that's a great way to start your LinkedIn journey. Megan Applegate 45:54  Go find me and then copy what I did.Lesley Logan 45:56  Yeah, there you go. Sometimes that's the way to do it, right? It's already done, you can just follow along. If you have questions about this, feel free to let us know; I'll happily send them off to Megan. We'll connect you, but you guys, you don't have to sit there and wait for something to happen. You can actually start making changes before you're ready, and that is exactly what Being It Till You See It is. So, thank you so much, Megan. And until next time, everyone, Be It Till You See It.Lesley Logan 46:22  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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In this Fuck Yeah Friday episode, Lesley Logan makes the case for celebrating the small stuff instead of holding your wins hostage until everything feels perfect. She shares an honest rant about technology that overpromises, a candid retirement-planning win with Brad, and a listener who finished all ten Spring Training classes. She digs into why tiny, bite-sized celebrations are what actually turn good intentions into habits. It is a warm, grounded reminder that the thing you just did is already worth honoring. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:How modern tech overpromises while quietly making life harder.What Lesley and Brad's real retirement plan looks like.The listener streak that shows why consistency wins.Where confidence support actually comes from, and why.Why holding your celebrations hostage backfires on you.Episode References/Links:634 ft Gregg Lunceford - https://beitpod.com/ep634481 ft Steve Selengut - https://beitpod.com/ep481352 ft Tess Waresmith - https://beitpod.com/ep352@lmarieinsta - https://www.instagram.com/lmarieinstaSubmit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questions If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:48  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It podcast. This is our Fuck Yeah Friday. This is where we share some wins, we get some mantras, we get to just be in each other's lives a little bit. I want to know what's going on with you. Send it to me, right? Send me in your wins, send me what you're working on. Send us the topics that you're wanting us to do solo episodes on, or get some interviews on. Also, I just want to say thank you to those of you who have bought flash cards or joined OPC recently, because your support of OPC is what powers this podcast. So, if you have not checked out what we have at OPC, we've got some really great work and get stuff for you, and so if you're Pi curious, Pilate's curious, we've got stuff for you, don't have to be a Pilates expert to join OPC, is for people who want access and accountability to their Pilates practice, and so big thank you, big shout out to all of you. Lesley Logan 1:33  Okay, maybe I should welcome OPC members who join, who are Be It Pod listeners, I don't know if I should do that, but maybe you should do that, maybe we should do a little shout out, so you can hear your name. It's fun to hear your name. It's fun to hear your name on a podcast, especially this one, because it's top 1% podcast, right? Okay, so my "I need a moment" is that I'm currently sitting on my phone because it won't stop dinging, even though it's on do not disturb, and my frustration and my rant is, okay, what? What is Do Not Disturb for if I get disturbed on it, and it's like, oh, well, if your favorite, so your favorite thing get through, because, of course, I want my husband to get through, but then it dings on him texting me, and it's like, well, why, why are you doing this? I do Do Not Disturb for a reason, so how do I get to totally turn off, but then you can't have it turned off, because what if someone has an emergency? Then Brad did something to his phone, so nothing gets through, which means literally there was one day when our websites went down, his sister and I are trying to call him, and I'm doing the double call, and all this stuff. We got to the point where I almost sent my father to the house to wake him up, because we're like, "We need to talk to you, and we couldn't get through. So I'm annoyed that Do Not Disturb work so badly that my husband has turned his phone to a place where we can't even call through, and it doesn't work at all for me, and that my phone is beeping, and I have to sit on it. Why do this podcast? Because in those last episodes, you probably heard it dinging, and I apologize for that. That's annoying. But, why? The thing about technology that pisses me off is, don't tell me it's great, and it's making my life easier when it's making my life shitty. You know what I mean? But then, if we don't have it, then it's like, well, that's gonna suck, right? That will totally suck.Lesley Logan 3:06  So, anyway, all right, now a win, because if you get to complain, you have to have a win, and when you're not, we talked about this last week, the win does not have to be in the same complaint, doesn't have to be from that, because that I don't want to talk, I want to be like, oh, so and so died, but the win in it is, that's terrible shit, that's not it at all. My win is Brad and I adulted, we talked with our wealth managers, and things are looking good, and that's, you know, that's nice, because it doesn't feel like the world is doing well, and I am an elder millennial, and I want to be an elder millennial who gets to retire like I am, I want to retire, not today, don't freak out, but I want to be someone who gets to retire, that feels like a great.. we don't.. we've had guests on this podcast who talk about having your retirement persona. Let me tell you what it is. It is owner of a compound with my Golden Girl lifestyle, and all of my DINCs, dual income, no children couples, each having their own motel room, and then we have this massive Pilates studio slash gym, massive restaurant-style kitchen that we all get to cook in, so no one has to cook in their place, and no one has to have all these different, they just have a, their motel room is like their their place of living, their personal space, but then we have all these communal spaces we can take care of each other, because who else is going to take care of us? So, my win is that we're at least investing in a way that I was going to allow us to retire someday, more money would be better, but we're doing pretty good, considering what's going on in the world today. So, that's a nice win. Lesley Logan 4:36  So, now let me pull my phone out, so I can read one of yours. This is @lmarieinsta. I did all 10 Spring Training classes, and joined OPC! That's insane. @lmarieinsta, way to go. 10 classes, huge. I watched the ones that I wasn't in because I had to do the thing, and if you did, those were hard. Way to go, way to do all 10, proud of you. See, you guys, that's a win, right? When you're like, I committed to something, and I'm going to do what I can, and then you celebrate that you did it. We've got to normalize celebrating that you did the thing you want to do. It doesn't mean that you did this, shouldn't make a massive project, like I'm into spring training, and I'm celebrating that I did the spring training. That's the thing, right? Some of you are holding yourself hostage on celebrations that you're like, "I don't get to celebrate that I signed up for this language class until I can speak fluently. No, you have to celebrate, you signed up for it, you have to celebrate that you went to it, to celebrate that you quizzed yourself on it, to celebrate that you study a little extra, you have to celebrate these things. That's what makes them habits. That's why we do this. It's why we celebrate. So you get a little dopamine high, and then it makes it easier to do more things for yourself. People are always seeking out confidence support. You want to know where confidence support comes from? From doing the thing that you said you would do, and that's why you got to make it small. You got to make it bite-sized. You got to make it things that you can do. Lesley Logan 5:54  So, your mantra: I am a reflection of love and kindness. I am a reflection of love and kindness, a reflection of love and kindness. Yes, you are. All right, Be It babe. Thanks so much for listening. I hope you are loving these Friday episodes. If you have any questions about OPC, what we do there, our flash cards, how to use them, you can go to onlinepilatesclasses.com or you can reach out to us. We'll be happy to answer them. We have phone numbers you can chat to. Okay, until next time, Be It Till You See It.Lesley Logan 6:24  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 7:06  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 7:11  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 7:16  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 7:23  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 7:26  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy