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Film buff Flick Ford chomps into five decades of Jaws; author and music journlist Liz Pelly streams her Spotify-scepticism with Mood Machine; Jas takes a dive into virtrual reality; gamechanger Adam Christou goes bananas for the new Donkey Kong; cookbook star Hetty Lui McKinnon makes us all friends with salad; and reviewer Sean O'Brien tackles Geoff Dyer's latest memoir, Homework. With presenters Jas Moore, Daniel Burt & Nat Harris.Website: https://www.rrr.org.au/explore/programs/breakfasters/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Breakfasters3RRRFM/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/breakfasters/
Liz Pelly is here to discuss her book Mood Machine – The Rise of Spotify and the Costs of the Perfect Playlist, loving New York City and high hopes for mayoral candidate Zohran Mamdani, rationality and current reality, becoming a music fan, musician, and investigative journalist, questioning authority, corporations, and oligarchs, why Spotify has become so prominent and why some of its practices warranted further examination, how randomly viral TikTok songs lead to large Spotify pay days, ghost artists and generative AI, what's next for her, and much more. See Liz speak at Mutek Forum in Montreal between August 20 and 22, 2025.EVERY OTHER COMPLETE KREATIVE KONTROL EPISODE IS ONLY ACCESSIBLE TO PATREON SUPPORTERS STARTING AT $6/MONTH. Enjoy this excerpt and please subscribe now via this link to hear this full episode. Thanks!Thanks to Blackbyrd Myoozik, the Bookshelf, Planet Bean Coffee, and Grandad's Donuts. Support Y.E.S.S., Pride Centre of Edmonton, and Letters Charity. Follow vish online.Related episodes/links:Ep. #998: Nina NastasiaEp. #975: DeerhoofEp. #930: Dog DayEp. #858: Cadence WeaponEp. #813: Marc MastersEp. #655: Jackie KashianEp. #317: Bonnie ‘Prince' BillyBonnie “Prince” Billy (2019)Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/kreative-kontrol. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
It's no secret that Spotify pays artists extremely poorly, but it turns out they don't treat their customers much better. Author and journalist Liz Pelly's new book, Mood Machine: The Rise of Spotify and the Costs of the Perfect Playlist, investigates how Spotify has accelerated the collapse of the music industry, along with their shady practices such as filling playlists with stock music—fooling customers into listening to artists who don't actually exist. This week, Adam sits with Liz to talk about how a service that brands itself around “discovery” is actually flattening the music-listening experience of customers worldwide. Find Liz's book at factuallypod.com/booksDownload Cash App Today: https://capl.onelink.me/vFut/2vjj5nrh #CashAppPod. As a Cash App partner, I may earn a commission when you sign up for a Cash App account. Cash App is a financial services platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App's bank partner(s). Prepaid debit cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC. Visit cash.app/legal/podcast for full disclosures.--SUPPORT THE SHOW ON PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/adamconoverSEE ADAM ON TOUR: https://www.adamconover.net/tourdates/SUBSCRIBE to and RATE Factually! on:» Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/factually-with-adam-conover/id1463460577» Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0fK8WJw4ffMc2NWydBlDyJAbout Headgum: Headgum is an LA & NY-based podcast network creating premium podcasts with the funniest, most engaging voices in comedy to achieve one goal: Making our audience and ourselves laugh. Listen to our shows at https://www.headgum.com.» SUBSCRIBE to Headgum: https://www.youtube.com/c/HeadGum?sub_confirmation=1» FOLLOW us on Twitter: http://twitter.com/headgum» FOLLOW us on Instagram: https://instagram.com/headgum/» FOLLOW us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@headgum» Advertise on Factually! via Gumball.fmSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Spotify was originally marketed as a democratic, anti-establishment music streaming platform. But according to journalist Liz Pelly, it has become a system favoring major labels and its own algorithmic playlists featuring “ghost artists,” all while underpaying independent artists. Pelly draws on interviews with former employees, music industry veterans and artists to pull back the curtain on the music streaming giant in her new book, “Mood Machine: The Rise of Spotify and the Cost of the Perfect Playlist." Guests: Liz Pelly, writer; contributing editor to The Baffler Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Liz Pelly'nin henüz Türkçeye çevrilmemiş müzik endüstrisinin en güncel konusunu, Spotify'ın işleyişini ele alan Mood Machine The Rise of Spotify and the Cost of the Perfect Playlist kitabını yorumluyoruz.
Even if you don't use Spotify, the streaming platform's anti-labor orientation means it's affecting musicians and thus, the music you listen to, which Liz Pelly covers in depth in her new book, "Mood Machine: The Rise of Spotify and the Costs of the Perfect Playlist." Discussed this episode: Spotify's in-house "fake"/ghost artists, how it uses a "payola-like" system to charge artists to get discovered, Walter Benjamin's "aura loss," and more. Liz's website https://lizpelly.info Mood Machine: The Rise of Spotify and the Costs of the Perfect Playlist https://sfpl.bibliocommons.com/v2/record/S93C6719844 Critical Listening (Liz's new podcast with Max Alper) https://www.patreon.com/criticallistening Bay Beats - SF Public Library's music streaming service https://baybeats.sfpl.org Support us and find links to our past episodes: patreon.com/sadfrancisco
Once upon a time, we listened to music, now, music listens to us. Algorithms have become the DJ of culture serving up curated moods, optimizing our emotions, and quietly reshaping the soundtrack of our lives says Music journalist Liz Pelly.
Listen to John Maytham's weekly book reviews and share his passion for all things literary. From fiction to non-fiction, John reads and reviews a range of books that would sit well on your reading list. The Creation of Half-Broken People by Siphiwe Gloria Ndlovu, Mood Machine: The Rise of Spotify and the Costs of the Perfect Playlist by Liz Pelly, Killer Potential by Hannah Deitch Follow us on:CapeTalk on Facebook: www.facebook.com/CapeTalkCapeTalk on TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@capetalkCapeTalk on Instagram: www.instagram.com/capetalkzaCapeTalk on YouTube: www.youtube.com/@CapeTalk567CapeTalk on X: www.x.com/CapeTalkSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Liz Pelly has been closely following the evolution of Spotify and other music streaming services and the effect they have had on the music sector and musicians themselves for several years. Her book, Mood Machine: The Rise of Spotify and the Costs of the Perfect Playlist (Atria, 2025), paints a depressing picture of how the company has exploited the popularity of playlists to grab a larger share of the money we spend on recorded music. Along with the record companies, Spotify has done this at the expense of musicians themselves and especially those is less popular areas like jazz and classical. I spoke to Liz at an event in Brussels organised by music venue Ancienne Belgique. Later we were joined by Jozefien Vanharpe of Leuven university, professor of intellectual property law, and Nick Yule of AEPO Artis, an association for collecting societies for performing artists. This is Simon Taylor with a podcast for New Books Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/politics-and-polemics
Liz Pelly has been closely following the evolution of Spotify and other music streaming services and the effect they have had on the music sector and musicians themselves for several years. Her book, Mood Machine: The Rise of Spotify and the Costs of the Perfect Playlist (Atria, 2025), paints a depressing picture of how the company has exploited the popularity of playlists to grab a larger share of the money we spend on recorded music. Along with the record companies, Spotify has done this at the expense of musicians themselves and especially those is less popular areas like jazz and classical. I spoke to Liz at an event in Brussels organised by music venue Ancienne Belgique. Later we were joined by Jozefien Vanharpe of Leuven university, professor of intellectual property law, and Nick Yule of AEPO Artis, an association for collecting societies for performing artists. This is Simon Taylor with a podcast for New Books Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/economics
Liz Pelly has been closely following the evolution of Spotify and other music streaming services and the effect they have had on the music sector and musicians themselves for several years. Her book, Mood Machine: The Rise of Spotify and the Costs of the Perfect Playlist (Atria, 2025), paints a depressing picture of how the company has exploited the popularity of playlists to grab a larger share of the money we spend on recorded music. Along with the record companies, Spotify has done this at the expense of musicians themselves and especially those is less popular areas like jazz and classical. I spoke to Liz at an event in Brussels organised by music venue Ancienne Belgique. Later we were joined by Jozefien Vanharpe of Leuven university, professor of intellectual property law, and Nick Yule of AEPO Artis, an association for collecting societies for performing artists. This is Simon Taylor with a podcast for New Books Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/performing-arts
Liz Pelly has been closely following the evolution of Spotify and other music streaming services and the effect they have had on the music sector and musicians themselves for several years. Her book, Mood Machine: The Rise of Spotify and the Costs of the Perfect Playlist (Atria, 2025), paints a depressing picture of how the company has exploited the popularity of playlists to grab a larger share of the money we spend on recorded music. Along with the record companies, Spotify has done this at the expense of musicians themselves and especially those is less popular areas like jazz and classical. I spoke to Liz at an event in Brussels organised by music venue Ancienne Belgique. Later we were joined by Jozefien Vanharpe of Leuven university, professor of intellectual property law, and Nick Yule of AEPO Artis, an association for collecting societies for performing artists. This is Simon Taylor with a podcast for New Books Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/music
Liz Pelly has been closely following the evolution of Spotify and other music streaming services and the effect they have had on the music sector and musicians themselves for several years. Her book, Mood Machine: The Rise of Spotify and the Costs of the Perfect Playlist (Atria, 2025), paints a depressing picture of how the company has exploited the popularity of playlists to grab a larger share of the money we spend on recorded music. Along with the record companies, Spotify has done this at the expense of musicians themselves and especially those is less popular areas like jazz and classical. I spoke to Liz at an event in Brussels organised by music venue Ancienne Belgique. Later we were joined by Jozefien Vanharpe of Leuven university, professor of intellectual property law, and Nick Yule of AEPO Artis, an association for collecting societies for performing artists. This is Simon Taylor with a podcast for New Books Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/book-of-the-day
How should you count The Police's "Bed's Too Big Without You?" Why do so many people revere Marty Friedman's solo on Megadeth's "Tornado of Souls"? What's going on with those pauses during the Bluey theme? And what the heck is that sound on Sly and the Family Stone's "Sex Machine"? Those questions and many more on the first mailbag episode of Season Seven. Thanks to Nevada Jones (voice) and Scott Pemberton (guitar) for their expert contributions!REFERENCED/DISCUSSED:"Bed's Too Big Without You" by The Police from The Police, 1979"Thirty One" by Lydian Collective from Adventure, 2018"4K Cozy Coffee Shop with Smooth Piano Jazz Music for Relaxing, Studying and Working" on YouTubeMood Machine: The Rise of Spotify and the Costs of the Perfect Playbook by Liz Pelly, 2025, and a Harper's excerpt about Spotify's "Perfect Fit Content" initiative"Executive Blend," "Funky Fanfare," by Keith Mansfield, and "Organ Mania" by Keith Mansfield and Alan Hawkshaw from KPM 1000 Series, Vol. 1"Tornado of Souls" by Megadeath from Rust in Peace, 1990"Sex Machine" by Sly and the Family Stone from Stand!, 1969"Show Me The Way" by Peter Frampton from Frampton, 1974"Bluey Theme" by Joff Bush"The Organic Sound of Bluey, with Sound Designer Dan Brumm" - Twenty Thousand HertzDemonstration of the Kustom Electronics Bag Talkbox----LINKS-----
We're on Patreon! Find us at https://www.patreon.com/AudioUnleashed This week, Dennis and Brent deconstruct the latest column by Stereophile's editor-in-chief and contemplate whether his position on spooky woo-woo has devolved in the past decade. Then they ogle cool amps and preamps on AliExpress that borrow revered brands yet cost only hundreds—and also examine how crazy it'd be to buy this stuff right now (b/c tariffs, not b/c communism and chopsticks). They conclude with a not-terribly-deep dive into a new article from Dennis about audio DIY, but not the kind of audio DIY you're probably imagining. Brent's audio projects:
KVMR public affairs correspondent April Glaser sits down to interview Liz Pelly, author of a new book and hard-hitting investigation into Spotify entitled Mood Machine: The Rise of Spotify & The Cost of the Perfect Playlist. Joining the conversation as well is local composer Alexis Alrich.Spotify pays artists fractions of pennies per stream. But Liz Pelly's book goes even deeper to reveal how Spotify has quietly worked to remove bands and artists from its most popular playlists and replaced them with fake or ghost content commissioned for cheaper than paying actual artists. What happens when we think we're listening to a band, but it's actually just content made by a company to keep us streaming for longer?Many thanks to Alexis Alrich for providing her original composition for this story, "Bell and Drum Tower," recorded in 2020 by the Janacek Philharmonic. Learn more about Alexis' work at her website.More information on Liz Pelly's book can be found at her publisher's website here.
We're on Patreon! Find us at https://www.patreon.com/AudioUnleashed This week, Dennis and Brent explore the fast-growing world of made-to-order lathe-cut records – and even play one for you! (Prepare to be … well, prepared.) Then they delight in some made-to-order pink noise from Erin's Audio Corner, and deconstruct Holly Cole's new made-to-order (well, for audiophiles) album with the help of Stereophile. Brent's audio projects:
Spotify promised independent artists a new revenue stream, and listeners exposure to new music. In the new book 'Mood Machine,' music journalist Liz Pelly examines how the streaming giant has shaped our listening habits.
Liz Pelly, author of Mood Machine: The Rise of Spotify and the Costs of the Perfect Playlist talks through the many practices at Spotify over the years that have impacted independent musicians-- from outsourcing stock music Spotify pays a lower royalty rate for and flooding Spotify's in-house playlists with that stock music, to paying artists a 30% lower royalty rate in exchange for promotion on Spotify. Then, guitarist and independent musician Lance Allen talks about how he was able to pay off his mortgage and buy a car off Spotify royalties and how he’s continued to find success on the music streaming service.Support the show: https://www.kexp.org/sound/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
We're on Patreon! Find us at https://www.patreon.com/AudioUnleashed This week, Dennis and Brent stop by Strata-gee to see how Sonos is strategorizing to scramble back to the summit of the sound souk with a new … oh, wait, change in plans! Then they ally themselves (very conditionally) with a British-ish mastering engineer who contends that high-priced DACs are a scam. Then they bring their incomparable incredulity to bear on the question of whether adding hobbled Dolby Atmos functionality to Cadillacs is the way forward for Atmos or Cadillac. Brent's audio projects:
Podden gästas av Rasmus Fleischer tillsammans med den numera objektiva och inte på något sätt Gigwatch-kopplade Flamman-reportern Jacob Lundberg. Vi pratar om Spotifys utveckling genom åren, om musiken som vara, övervakningskapitalism, finansialisering och om den universellt giltiga teorin om sugifiering. Samtalet baseras löst på vår läsning av boken Mood Machine av Liz Pelly som släpptes […]
Journalist Liz Pelly joins Sound Off to unpack her new book Mood Machine: On the Rise of Spotify and Costs of the Perfect Playlist. Beyond the fact that Spotify is a tech platform more dedicated to the advertising industry than music, Pelly joins Sound Off to discuss the incentivizing of passive over deep listening and the ways in which the platform itself can be a starting point to looking at systemic issues of hyper-individuality, surveillance capitalism and the billionaire tech class. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Discussing Spotify with Liz Pelly, author of "Mood Machine" Tomaš Dvořák - "Gameboy Tune" - "Mark's intro" - "Interview with Liz Pelly" [0:01:31] - "Mark's comments" [0:49:34] Cadence Weapon - "My Computer" [0:55:43] https://www.wfmu.org/playlists/shows/150392
Discussing Spotify with Liz Pelly, author of "Mood Machine" Tomaš Dvořák - "Gameboy Tune" - "Mark's intro" - "Interview with Liz Pelly" [0:01:31] - "Mark's comments" [0:49:34] Cadence Weapon - "My Computer" [0:55:43] https://freeform.wfmu.org/playlists/shows/150392
Music has become increasingly playlisted, personalized, and autoplayed. But how did we get here, and what does it mean for artists, listeners, and the music industry as a whole? In today's episode, journalist Liz Pelly unpacks the origins of Spotify, its meteoric rise, and its transformative impact on the way we create and experience music. Whilst researching for her new book, Mood Machine: The Rise of Spotify and the Costs of the Perfect Playlist, Pelly conducted over one hundred interviews with industry insiders, former Spotify employees, and musicians. Liz Pelly is a music journalist and author living in New York. Her essays and reporting have appeared in the Baffler, where she is a contributing editor, as well as in the Guardian, NPR, Rolling Stone and Pitchfork. She's joined by Timandra Harkness, writer, presenter and author of Technology is Not the Problem, for a conversation on the ethics of streaming, the economics of playlists, and the hidden costs of the “perfect” listening experience. If you'd like to become a Member and get access to all our full conversations, plus all of our Members-only content, just visit intelligencesquared.com/membership to find out more. For £4.99 per month you'll also receive: - Full-length and ad-free Intelligence Squared episodes, wherever you get your podcasts - Bonus Intelligence Squared podcasts, curated feeds and members exclusive series - 15% discount on livestreams and in-person tickets for all Intelligence Squared events ... Or Subscribe on Apple for £4.99: - Full-length and ad-free Intelligence Squared podcasts - Bonus Intelligence Squared podcasts, curated feeds and members exclusive series … Already a subscriber? Thank you for supporting our mission to foster honest debate and compelling conversations! Visit intelligencesquared.com to explore all your benefits including ad-free podcasts, exclusive bonus content and early access. … Subscribe to our newsletter here to hear about our latest events, discounts and much more. https://www.intelligencesquared.com/newsletter-signup/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Would you identify an AI song if you pressed play on one? Colm Cahalane and Niall explore what's happening in AI and music now, with an example drawn from the Irish music scene in recent months. Echoing the early Wild Wild West streaming era that we discussed last week with Liz Pelly that gave rise to Spotify's dominance, our chat this week with Colm Cahalane of Irish music Substack blog Fourth Best / Cork label Hausu finds parallels with what's happening with AI and music right now. AI is breaking new ground, and creating new problems and moral issues in doing so. Colm recently posted a ruminating article on AI on Fourth Best, which talks to an artist called Kawaii Hoe who inadvertently, and relatively innocently duped me into covering their energetic AI-generated hyperpop music on the site - Like I said it's the Wild Wild West. We talk about this scary new world of not knowing whether an artist is making music entirely with AI or not, and the implications and creative quandary of generated art. Because you can now make a full music project with AI, does that mean you should? Are AI musicians just really gifted at prompts? Are the outputs music? As AI music flooded streaming platforms, social media and we cannot put the genie back in the bottle, what's next? As Liz Pelly's book shows, Spotify will do what it can to reduce royalty rates so what's to stop it from replacing real artist's music with AI-generated music? Isn't this already happening whether they allow it or not? * Support Nialler9 on Patreon, get event discounts, playlists, ad-free episodes and join our Discord community Listen on Apple | Android | Patreon | Pocketcasts | CastBox | Stitcher | Spotify | RSS Feed | Pod.Link
We're on Patreon! Find us at https://www.patreon.com/AudioUnleashed This week, Dennis and Brent page through the storied Gray Lady (known to some as the New York Times and to Brent as “employer”) and find, to their amazement, an in-depth profile of high-end vinyl company Acoustic Sounds and its iconoclastic proprietor, Chad Kassem. Then they check out what YouTube star Cheapaudioman says are the biggest mistakes audiophiles can make (besides failing to listen to the Audio Unleashed podcast). They conclude by digging through a Tape Op profile of a man in Burbank, California whose life's work is getting messed-up tapes to play so you can finally hear A Flock of Seagulls as they were meant to be heard. Buy-now links for products mentioned herein (As Amazon Associates, we may earn a small cut from qualifying purchases):
The music and cultural critic Liz Pelly's new book Mood Machine: The Rise of Spotify and the Cost of the Perfect Playlist is a deep dive into Spotify's often contentious position in music today. Liz has been a philosophising on issues brought about by the streaming era's cultural impact for about 10 years now so the book collates a lot of work, thoughts, research and investigative reporting on Spotify and the way it operates. We talk to Liz about the Swedish streaming giant's outsized influence on the music industry, its gatekeeper effect on trends in music, and how Spotify has emphasised mood and passive listening above discovery and initiative. We talk about the vast collection of user behaviour on the platform that has lead to artists chasing a more homogenous "streambait pop" sound, how Spotify uses fake "ghost" artists and their Perfect Fit Content system to reduce royalty rates and squeeze out real artists on the platform's popular algorithmic and editorial playlists. * Support Nialler9 on Patreon, get event discounts, playlists, ad-free episodes and join our Discord community Listen on Apple | Android | ACAST | Patreon | Pocketcasts | CastBox | Stitcher | Spotify | RSS Feed | Pod.Link
No guest this week, but plenty of meat as we take our previous episode with Spotify chronicler Liz Pelly as a jumping off point to talk about the idea of independence.We use the word ‘independence' a lot on No Tags without really investigating what we mean by it. In a era when the major labels are all stake-holders in the biggest streaming platform on Earth, and are hoovering up indie labels and distributors like never before, how feasible is it to operate as a truly independent artist – whatever that means? And how can the term ‘independent' apply to indie labels with multiple offices and millions in the bank as well as one-person DIY operations?To explain, we think about the important history of independent distribution, catch up with the latest music biz headlines affecting independent artists, and ask ourselves… have the major labels simply won at this point?It's a little lighter elsewhere, as we talk ghosts (4:15) and debrief Anora's Oscar sweep (49:52), followed by some thoughts on The Brutalist, Nosferatu and 1971's The Working Class Goes to Heaven.If you're enjoying No Tags, please do rate, review and subscribe on your podcast app of choice. We'd also ask you to consider subscribing to our paid tier, which costs £5 a month and helps us continue bringing you these regular podcasts (plus it gives you a discount on our book.) Get full access to No Tags at notagspodcast.substack.com/subscribe
In their 15 years on the scene, Spotify has reshaped the way that people listen to music. A new book explores what the streaming company did to get so powerful, and how it is continuing to alter the music landscape, often in ways that disadvantage the artists it claims to support. Journalist Liz Pelly discusses the reporting from her book, Mood Machine: The Rise of Spotify and the Costs of the Perfect Playlist. Liz Pelly will be in conversation with WNYC's John Schaefer at the New York Public Library's Stavros Niarchos Foundation Library on March 11.
We're on Patreon! Find us at https://www.patreon.com/AudioUnleashed This week, Dennis and Brent unexpectedly flip the phase of their podcast by lavishly praising another audio pundit. But they quickly get back to business with an in-depth report on what might be the most preposterous subwoofer review (and most preposterous subwoofer setup) in a long history of preposterous subwoofer reviews by audiophile mags. Then they try to figure out why a famed accessories manufacturer insists that blind testing doesn't work yet employs it nonetheless, and contemplate Passion for Sound's assertion that science disproves the validity of science. Buy-now links for products mentioned herein (As Amazon Associates, we may earn a small cut from qualifying purchases):
No journalist has contributed more to our understanding of the streaming era than Liz Pelly.A contributing editor at The Baffler and a lifelong DIY scene participant, she's been investigating the inner workings of Spotify since 2016, writing a series of increasingly alarming stories that exposed the streaming giant's black box of profit-seeking operations: mood-based playlists filled with mysterious fake artists, lean-back listening, algorithmic curation and ‘streambait pop'.Her journalism has provided us with an arsenal of terms to better understand Daniel Ek's dismal vision of context-free listening. And now she's expanded her work into a new book, Mood Machine: The Rise of Spotify and the Costs of the Perfect Playlist.It's essential reading for anyone who wants to understand how we came to live in a world where ‘coastal grandma' is a genre and where ambient electronica playlists are filled with cheap stock music by unknown artists.We asked Liz to explain the pivotal moments in this decade-long transition, whether Spotify has changed the sound of the underground too, and what Daniel Ek's endgame might be. Get your hard hat on.Elsewhere in this week's episode, Chal runs down the best music she saw on a trip to Ljubljana's MENT festival (3:49), we talk the films that could potentially tank a new relationship (9:47), Tom highlights a new release on CDR's Pathways programme (13:00) and we even briefly discuss get-rich-quick schemes. Niche music recs and iffy financial advice? It could only be No Tags.As ever, if you're enjoying No Tags, please do rate, review and subscribe on your podcast app of choice. We'd also ask you to consider subscribing to our paid tier, which costs £5 a month and offers you nothing but the warm glow of philanthropy and a discount on our book – the second pressing of which is finally out now! Get full access to No Tags at notagspodcast.substack.com/subscribe
This week? Heavy Hitters. As you may (or may not) have heard, journalist/Daniel Ek tormenter/friend-of-the-pod Liz Pelly is making waves with her wonderful new book “Mood Machine: The Rise of Spotify and the Costs of the Perfect Playlist.” It's easily the best thing yet written about the company at the center of modern music, insightfully reconstructing how Spotify's shifting interests and policies have remade how we listen, who we listen to, and what they get paid. To get a deeper perspective on both the book and the histories it emerges from, we also called up David Turner—of the late (lamented) Penny Fractions—pulling him out of retirement for one last big music + capitalism score. Together Liz, David, and Sam dive into everything from the economics of ghost artists and the aesthetics of vibes-based listening to the intentional destruction of cultural context in the streaming age. It's a conversation that helps clarify the singularity of Spotify culture—and allows us to better detach its operations from the meaning of digital music. Come for the playlists. Stay for what they've done to you. Buy Liz Pelly's book "Mood Machine" Subscribe to our Newsletter!
We're on Patreon! Find us at https://www.patreon.com/AudioUnleashed This week, Dennis wonders why a writer for The Atlantic is wondering why his cheap Bluetooth speaker can't generate the feeling of community he got at a Beyoncé concert, while Brent wonders why Dennis was reading The Atlantic. Then they dig into a recent article on acoustics by one of audio's most popular personalities to learn what's better: a lousy speaker in a good room or a good speaker in a lousy room. They conclude with a deep dive into—surprise!—an article about hi-fi published in a mainstream scientific magazine, which recommends a whole new (well, kinda new) speaker layout. Buy-now links for products mentioned herein (As Amazon Associates, we may earn a small cut from qualifying purchases):
This is the Liz Pelly interview for the real heads!! We have a (perhaps brutally) honest discussion about the state of DIY and our extractive relationship with big tech. How do we untangle? Since Silent Barn times we’ve been researching, organizing, and building alternatives. We outline some of them in a fruitful discussion of Liz’s … Continue reading "216 – Music Ecology vs the Mood Machine w/ Liz Pelly LIVE"
No platform has had more of impact on what we listen to over the past decade than Spotify. This week, Taylor is joined by journalist Liz Pelly, to discuss her new book "Mood Machine: The Rise of Spotify and the Costs of the Perfect Playlist."They discuss the profound impact Spotify has had on the music industry, culture, and the way we consume sound.Pelly reveals the truth about so-called "ghost artists" and other tactics the company has employed to squeeze artists and upend the content ecosystem.They also dig into how Spotify's algorithm-driven playlists have reshaped not just listening habits but also the very nature of music production, artist careers, and industry power structures.SUBSCRIBE TO POWER USER ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/@TaylorLorenz
This week Ari sits down with Liz Pelly, a prominent music journalist and author of the new book Mood Machine: The Rise of Spotify and the Costs of the Perfect Playlist. Liz's journalism has appeared in NPR, The Guardian, and Pitchfork among other prestigious publications. Preceded by an exposé in Harper's Magazine, Pelly's latest work, Mood Machine, pulls back the curtain on Spotify's exploitative practices and uncovers how those practices impact artists and listeners. In this episode, Liz gives the low down on research she conducted for the book and explains how Spotify has unfairly conspired with major labels since its launch. As she does in Mood Machine, Liz calls out Spotify's Perfect Fit Content (PFC) program and explains how its use of ghost artists degrades the integrity of their model for all. Ari and Liz discuss the value of music and how that can differ in the eyes of major corporations and individuals. Whether you're an artist, label, or listener who uses Spotify, this episode will help you understand the impact Spotify's model has on your relationship to music.https://www.instagram.com/lizpelly Harper's article: https://harpers.org/archive/2025/01/the-ghosts-in-the-machine-liz-pelly-spotify-musicians/Chapters00:00 The Inner Workings of Spotify12:48 Ghost Artists and the PFC Program37:50 Spotify's Launch and Major Label Relationships41:26 The Evolution of Streaming Contracts44:14 Valuing Music: A Cultural Perspective49:43 The Impact of Streaming on Music Value56:10 Algorithms and the Personalization of Music01:01:20 The Role of Music in Society01:07:23 Future Solutions for Musicians01:19:38 Defining Success in the New Music BusinessEdited and mixed by Ari DavidsMusic by Brassroots DistrictProduced by the team at Ari's TakeOrder the THIRD EDITION of How to Make It in the New Music Business: https://book.aristake.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
This week, we're joined by the Times reporter Jonathan Swan to discuss Elon Musk's tech takeover of Washington, D.C. Then, Liz Pelly, author of a new book about Spotify, stops by to discuss “ghost musicians” and how Spotify's algorithms are reshaping music culture. And finally — it's Tool Time! We'll tell you all about the new A.I. tools we're using, plus the one that we wish existed.Guests: Jonathan Swan, a White House reporter for The New York TimesLiz Pelly, author of “Mood Machine: The Rise of Spotify and the Costs of the Perfect Playlist”Additional Reading: Inside Musk's Aggressive Incursion Into the Federal GovernmentThe Ghosts in the MachineChatGPT's deep research might be the first good agent Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.
Paris Marx is joined by Liz Pelly to discuss how Spotify changes how we listen to music and the broader impacts it has on the wider music industry.Liz Pelly is a music journalist and the author of Mood Machine.Tech Won't Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Support the show on Patreon.The podcast is made in partnership with The Nation. Production is by Eric Wickham.Also mentioned in this episode:You can read an excerpt of Liz's book in Harper's.The CEO of Suno AI said people “don't enjoy” making music.Support the show
On this episode of Tech Won't Save Us, we're joined by Liz Pelly to discuss how Spotify changes how we listen to music and the broader impacts it has on the wider music industry. Liz Pelly is a music journalist and the author of Mood Machine.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
We're on Patreon! Find us at https://www.patreon.com/AudioUnleashed This week, Dennis and Brent discuss Danny Ritchie's diagnosis of the legendary Wilson WATT/Puppy; can he find the cure for questionable engineering? Then they ponder whether Spotify is truly evil, and what malice might lurk in the hearts of other streaming services. And they wrap up with speculation about why a stupid article on vinyl seems to have been memory-holed entirely off the internet—and why a vinyl guru's attempt to demo over YouTube says much about the psychology of crowds and nothing about vinyl. Buy-now links for products mentioned herein (As Amazon Associates, we may earn a small cut from qualifying purchases):
On this very special edition of the YMC podcast, your host Jay Gilbert has an in-depth conversation with author Liz Pelly on her recently released book entitled Mood Machine - The Rise of Spotify and the Costs of the Perfect Playlist. Subscribe to the newsletter! YourMorning.Coffee
Spotify was originally marketed as a democratic, anti-establishment music streaming platform. But according to journalist Liz Pelly, it has become a system favoring major labels and its own algorithmic playlists featuring “ghost artists,” all while underpaying independent artists. Pelly draws on interviews with former employees, music industry veterans and artists to pull back the curtain on the music streaming giant in her new book, “Mood Machine: The Rise of Spotify and the Cost of the Perfect Playlist.” Guests: Liz Pelly, writer; contributing editor to The Baffler
Let's take a step back in time to the halcyon days of late 2011, back when a little Swedish music app called Spotify landed in our app stores.Its arrival, alongside the rise of early smartphones and “public square” platforms like Twitter, seemed to herald the utopian ideals of a democratizing tech future just on the horizon. Here was an app that professed to level the playing field for music fans and artists alike via what Spotify imagined to be a “data-driven democracy”: For fans, it put pretty much any music you wanted at your fingertips, anytime. On the artist side, it promised to replace industry gatekeepers with a system where anyone who wrote a good enough song could land a viral hit — while also righting the compensatory wrongs of technological predecessors like Napster.That's…. not exactly how it's played out.Today, Spotify's myth of meritocracy has been supplanted by a system where major labels make millions of dollars a day from streaming while artists make less than a penny per stream; where AI DJs do the choosing for you within an algorithmic echo chamber; and where “vibe”-oriented playlists are filled with music by ghost artists designed to keep you listening longer while paying attention less.How all of this came to pass — and its far-reaching ripple effects on everything from cultural taste and aesthetics to the very meaning of being an “independent” artist — is the subject of Mood Machine: The Rise of Spotify and the Costs of the Perfect Playlist, a new book by independent music journalist Liz Pelly. The work culminates a decade of dogged reporting covering Spotify's rise from democratizing platform to corporate behemoth, and how, in the process, it has eroded the vast majority of artist's ability to make a living off of their work.Liz joins us to discuss how independent artists got swept up in a system that was clearly never built with them in mind, and how it managed to devalue their work to almost nothing. We also get into Spotify's flattening impact on music, in both an aesthetic and economic sense. And we break down the platform's push towards “lean-back” listening — you know, beats to study and chill to — and how it's reshaped the very meaning of being a fan.Follow Liz on Instagram.Get Mood Machine and check out more of Liz's work here.Read an excerpt, "The Ghosts in the Machine," at Harper's This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit theculturejournalist.substack.com/subscribe
Liz Pelly joins This Is Hell! to discuss her Harper's cover article titled "The Ghosts in the Machine: Spotify's Plot Against Musicians," excerpted from her new book, Mood Machine: The Rise of Spotify and the Costs of the Perfect Playlist (One Signal Publishers). Help keep This Is Hell! completely listener supported and access bonus episodes by subscribing to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/thisishell
Liz Pelly joins This Is Hell! to discuss her Harper's cover article titled "The Ghosts in the Machine: Spotify's Plot Against Musicians," excerpted from her new book, Mood Machine: The Rise of Spotify and the Costs of the Perfect Playlist (One Signal Publishers). An all-new Moment of Truth with Jeff Dorchen follows the interview. Check out Liz's article: https://harpers.org/archive/2025/01/the-ghosts-in-the-machine-liz-pelly-spotify-musicians/ And her book: https://lizpelly.info/book Help keep This Is Hell! completely listener supported and access bonus episodes by subscribing to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/thisishell
Today we have very special guest Liz Pelly on to talk about her great new book Mood Machine: The Rise of Spotify and the Costs of the Perfect Playlist. We get into playlist payola, the new age of muzak, questioning the role of corporate power in our lives, and much more. Enjoy! Buy Mood Machine: The Rise of Spotify and the Costs of the Perfect Playlist: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Mood-Machine/Liz-Pelly/9781668083505
On this episode, Marc talks with Liz Pelly, author of “Mood Machine: The Rise of Spotify and the Cost of the Perfect Playlist,” published on January 7, 2025. by One Signal. It's a deeply reported expose of the streaming service Spotify and how their decisions and manipulations have changed music both for artists and for listeners. Liz has been reporting on Spotify for almost a decade and her many published articles on the subject led her to this fascinating book, which will hopefully change the way people think about streaming and what it's done to music.As she writes, “In my writing and reporting, I've been driven toward a deep impulse toward demystification–toward shedding light on the inner workings of streaming companies and debunking the myths they perpetuate. Sometimes it feels more complicated and convoluted than I could ever have imagined. Other times it just all feels like music industry business as usual. The truth is somewhere in the middle: the story of streaming is as much about what's changed as what's stayed the same.”We hope you enjoy Marc's conversation with Liz Pelly!
Isaac is joined by Liz Pelly and Max Peretsky to talk Liz's new book Mood Machine: The Rise of Spotify and the Costs of the Perfect Playlist.
Music journalist Liz Pelly joins us to discuss her new book The Mood Machine the Rise of Spotify and the Cost of the Perfect Playlist. How did the DIY culture of mixtapes and file sharing move towards massive streaming platforms? And with nearly every song freely accessible why are so many listening to elevator music instead? You can listen to this full episode gratis by signing up at our free membership tier over at patreon.com/theAntifadaLinks to Liz's work:https://harpers.org/archive/2025/01/the-ghosts-in-the-machine-liz-pelly-spotify-musicians/https://thebaffler.com/downstream/big-mood-machine-pellyhttps://thebaffler.com/downstream/streambait-pop-pellyhttps://thebaffler.com/downstream/wrapped-and-sold-pelly https://thebaffler.com/latest/podcast-overlords-pellyCheck out the Art and Labor PodcastMusic/image: Lo-Fi Girl