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In Part 15 of Redlining & White Noise, Dr. Jean Kantamu Latting joins us to talk about personal and social change. “If we imitate the worst of the oppressor,” she says, “we create a backlash and will not make progress.” She speaks with us about the difference between the middle ground and centered space, makes a distinction between agreement and acceptance, and offers her wisdom about how we grant permission for people to change. Dr. Jean Kantamu Latting is President of Leading Consciously, an organization dedicated to building community among those who wish to make a difference in their work and personal and community lives based on the concepts and skills developed in her book, Reframing Change. Professor Emerita at the Graduate College of Social Work at the University of Houston, she has spent her adult life teaching on empowerment, social justice theories, and organizational behavior and change. In addition, she has done extensive research on personal, organizational, and social change in the context of social hierarchies and multiple group identities. For more about Dr. Latting and to have her consult with your organization, please visit her website, LeadingConsciously.com. Her book, Reframing Change: How to Deal with Workplace Dynamics, Influence Others, and Bring People Together to Initiate Positive Change, is available here. For more information, see show notes for this episode at reclaimedpodcast.com.

In Part 14 of Redlining & White Noise, Charles Rotramel and Gregg Taylor speak with Dain and Constance Perry. Dain is a direct descendant of James DeWolf who was the patriarch of America's leading slave trading enterprise and at the time of his death, the second wealthiest person in America. In this moving episode of Redlining & White Noise, we talk with the Perrys about family history, get their lived wisdom about Complicity, Culpability, and Responsibility, and hear their thoughts on what's necessary to heal the ongoing wound of America's original sin. Resources mentioned in this episode: Traces of the Trade film http://www.tracesofthetrade.org Recommended Reading Waking Up White by Debbie Irving Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome: America's Story of Enduring Injury and Healing by Joy DeGruy Inheriting the Trade by Thomas DeWolf For more on this episode, visit reclaimedpodcast.com.

In Part 13 of Redlining & White Noise, Charles Rotramel and Gregg Taylor speak with Sammy Rangel, Executive Director of Life After Hate. In this moving conversation, Sammy shares his story of gang violence, incarceration, and how he became immersed in violent extremism. He talks about his transformation from a life of hate to a life of compassion and the organization he co-founded to help others do the same. For more on this episode, visit reclaimedpodcast.com.

In Part 12 of Redlining & White Noise, our friend Jonathan Russell joins us for a conversation about whiteness and land domination. Using his recent article, the ‘white lie' connecting President Trump's pardon of arsonists, current immigration policy, and Charlottesville as a launch point, this episode focuses on the historical and contemporary linkage between racial identity and property ownership. Jonathan Russell is the Vice President of Programs at Bay Area Rescue Mission in Richmond, California. He is also a Contributing Fellow at the University of Southern California Center for Religion and Civic Culture and is an Adjunct Instructor of Philosophy and Religion at Chaffey College. We discuss the ideas of two additional writers in this episode: George Lipsitz-   https://architecturesofspatialjustice.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/w05_lipsitz_race.pdf   https://www.amazon.com/Racism-Takes-Place-George-Lipsitz/dp/1439902569   Willie James Jennings-   https://www.amazon.com/Christian-Imagination-Theology-Origins-Race/dp/0300171366/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1538720518&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=the+christian+imagination+theology+and+the+origins+of+race&dpPl=1&dpID=51h5UW5zf8L&ref=plSrch

Redlining & White Noise Part 11 | Implicit Bias with Edward Palmer In part 11 of Redlining & White Noise, Charles Rotramel and Gregg Taylor speak with Pastor Edward Palmer about Implicit Bias. In this passionate and informed conversation, Pastor Palmer combines personal experience and professional training to inform us about what implicit bias is, how it shapes other-izing decisions and behavior, and what we can do to recognize and mitigate its influence. Pastor Edward Palmer is Senior Pastor of The Sign of The Dove Ministries, International, in Radcliff, Kentucky. He is the National Vice Chair for the Coalition for Juvenile Justice and serves on the Kentucky Juvenile Justice Advisory Board. Pastor Palmer is an expert trainer on implicit bias which he leads around the country.  More information on Pastor Palmer is available here: http://www.sodradcliff.org/content.cfm?id=149&member_id=18

In part 10 of Redlining & White Noise, Charles Rotramel and Gregg Taylor speak with Will Willimon about his book Who Lynched Willie Earle?, based on the true story of pastor Hawley Lynn's March of 1947 sermon of the same title. Will walks us through the story of the last recorded lynching in Greenville, South Carolina, the complicity of the mainline Protestant church, and how the church can facilitate racial healing. In his distinguished career, Bishop William Willimon served as Bishop in the United Methodist Church and as dean of Duke Chapel. He is currently professor of Christian ministry at Duke Divinity School. He is the author of many books, including most recently Who Lynched Willie Earle: Preaching to Confront Racism. More information about William Willimon is available here: https://divinity.duke.edu/faculty/william-willimon  

In part 9 of Redlining & White Noise, Charles Rotramel and Gregg Taylor are on location at Project Row Houses in Houston to talk with Eureka Gilkey about Closing the Racial Wealth Gap. Eureka Gilkey is the Executive Director of Project Row Houses, an innovative organization in the Third Ward, which combines art, community development, and historic cultural representation to offer creative solutions for building economic vibrancy for this redlined neighborhood. For more information on Project Row Houses, visit projectrowhouses.org

In this episode of Redlining & White Noise, we get to the topic of Redlining. Charles Rotramel and Gregg Taylor meet with Preston Allen, Director for Community Development at Wheeler Avenue Baptist Church, located in the Third Ward of Houston. We talk about what redlining is and--beginning in the early part of the 20th Century--how the U.S. government, through redlining policy, intentionally and systematically segregated African American neighborhoods to limit wealth-building opportunities. We also discuss the current ramifications of the federal government's complicity in this institutional practice of racialized otherization and stripping of wealth. Rev. Preston Allen is Director for Non-Profits and Community Development at Wheeler Avenue Baptist Church in Houston's Third Ward. He is a leader in criminal justice reform efforts. For further reading: Resource articles about the history and practice of redlining: A Forgotten History of How the U.S. Government Segregated America Redlining's Enduring Legacy We reference Ta-Nehisi Coates' book, We Were Eight Years in Power, particularly chapter six, “The Case for Reparations.” You can find his book here.

In the 7th episode of Redlining & White Noise, Charles Rotramel and Gregg Taylor are joined by the award-winning author, Linda Gordon. A renowned historian, Linda is the Florence Kelley Professor of History at New York University. She is the author of The Second Coming of the KKK: The Ku Klux Klan of the 1920s and the American Political Tradition. In this enlightening episode, we learn about the KKK of the 1920s, the most significant social movement in America at the time. Linda walks us through a part of American history that is not commonly known and exposes its connection to our current times.

In Part 6 of Redlining & White Noise: Field Trip to Morton Cemetery, Charles and Gregg take a trip back in time to the beginning of Texas -- and into Charles' personal history. Located along the banks of the Brazos River in Ft. Bend County and established in 1825, Morton Cemetery in Richmond is the final resting place for many first settlers of the colony. For more, visit reclaimedpodcast.com/shownotes

In Part 5 of Redlining & White Noise, we talk with our friend, Jay Jenkins, Harris County Project Attorney with the Texas Criminal Justice Coalition. Our topic, Telling the Truth About History, builds on last week's conversation about the discovery of the skeletal remains of 95 African-Americans in Sugar Land, Tx. As an attorney and advocate for criminal justice reform, Jay shares how he got involved with Reggie Moore's efforts, how this discovery impacts our understanding of history, and how the convict-leasing system ungirds mass incarceration in America. Information about Jay Jenkins is here: https://www.texascjc.org/jay-jenkins-jd

In Part 4 of Redlining & White Noise, a conversation with Reginald Moore about 95 Bodies & Convict-Leasing. A former correctional officer with the Texas Department of Corrections, Reggie has spent years uncovering the dehumanizing policies and practices of convict-leasing, which began in the years of Reconstruction. He has discovered the remains of 95 bodies buried beneath the soil of the proposed site of a new school in Sugar Land, Texas. Reggie works tirelessly to represent their voices and seek accountability for what happened. The 95 bodies are a small percentage of the more than 3500 black Texans who were exploited and died in the convict leasing system between 1866 and 1912. For more, visit reclaimedpodcast.com/shownotes

In Part 3 of Redlining & White Noise, we go to the campus of Texas Southern University to speak with Dr. Merline Pitre about the tumultuous period in American history known as Reconstruction and its aftermath. Merline Pitre is Professor of History and former Dean of the College of Liberal Arts and Behavioral Science at Texas Southern University. A former President of the Texas State Historical Association, she is author of several books including "Through Many Dangers, Toils, and Snares: The Black Leadership of Texas, 1868–1898, Revised Edition", and "In Struggle against Jim Crow: Lulu B. White and the NAACP, 1900–1957".  

In Part 2 of Redlining & White Noise, we speak with Dr. Gerald Horne about America's history of enslaving human beings from Africa. Gerald Horne is an African-American historian who currently holds the John J. and Rebecca Moores Chair of History and African American Studies at the University of Houston. Dr. Horne is the author of more than thirty books and one hundred scholarly articles and reviews. His current research includes an examination of U.S.-Southern African relations since the so-called “Anglo-Boer War” at the end of the 19th century and an analysis of the Political Economy of the music called “Jazz” from the late 19th century to the present. Gerald Horne's latest book, discussed in this episode, is "The Apocalypse of Settler Colonialism: The Roots of Slavery, White Supremacy, and Capitalism in 17th Century North America and the Carribean." It can be found here:   https://www.amazon.com/Apocalypse-Settler-Colonialism-Supremacy-Capitalism-ebook/dp/B075XSKT86/ref=la_B001HCVSVK_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1532103999&sr=1-2

 In Part 1 of our new series Redlining & White Noise: The Otherization of African Americans, we speak with Rudy Rasmus at his coffee shop in Houston, ThroughGood. Rev. Rudy Rasmus is a pastor, author, and global humanitarian. Along with his wife, Juanita, he leads the nine-thousand-member St. John's United Methodist Church in Houston, one of the most culturally diverse congregations in the country. Pastor Rudy coordinates domestic and global anti-hunger initiatives in conjunction with concert tours by longtime friend and church member Beyoncé Knowles. A former columnist for O Magazine, Rudy and his wife Juanita have two daughters. View and purchase Rudy's book Love Period. When All Else Fails 

Charles, Matt, and Gregg are joined by Gabriel Lopez and George Nunez, to discuss Homeboy Industries, how it helped them change their lives, and how they experience kinship. Gabriel Lopez is a Senior Navigator at Homeboy Industries in Los Angeles, California, the largest gang intervention program in the world and founded by Father Greg Boyle. George Nunez is a member of the Security staff at Homeboy Industries. Both are former clients. The Homeboy Industries website is here: http://www.homeboyindustries.org/ 

In this encore episode, Charles and Matt examine forgiveness and its challenges, its relationship to the criminal justice system and kinship, and the importance of seeking it. Miroslav Volf's book "The End of Memory: Remembering Rightly in a Violent World" is discussed in this episode. It can be found here: https://www.amazon.com/End-Memory-Remembering-Rightly-Violent/dp/0802829899 

In this encore episode, Charles, Matt and, Gregg discuss the powerful meaning of Good Friday, the road to the cross, the suffering of God, and the emergence of light.

Charles, Matt, and Gregg are joined for another encore episode by Mustafa Tameez, Managing Director of Outreach Strategists, for an illuminating discussion about ISIL, ways to combat terrorism in the US, and how our faith communities provide the key to combating it. Mustafa has had a distinguished career in public affairs and communications and has also advised successful candidates for mayor of Houston, state legislature, and Congress, as well as nonprofits. He has consulted on national security with the Department of Homeland Security. Mustafa is a regular contributor to Fox News, the Houston Chronicle, nd the Texas Tribune. More information about Mustafa is available here: http://www.outreachstrategists.com/who-we-are/leadership/   

Charles, Matt, and Gregg are joined by Mustafa Tameez, Managing Director of Outreach Strategists, to discuss the American criminal justice system, how we got to the present era of mass incarceration, and where we go from here. Mustafa has had a distinguished career in public affairs and communications and has also advised successful candidates for mayor of Houston, state legislature, and Congress, as well as nonprofits. He has consulted on national security with the Department of Homeland Security. Mustafa is a regular contributor to Fox News, the Houston Chronicle, nd the Texas Tribune.  More information about Mustafa is available here: http://www.outreachstrategists.com/who-we-are/leadership/   

Gregg and Charles are joined by Steve Klineberg to learn about the results from the 35th Houston Area Survey, the diversity it points to, and how the 21st Century city can thrive. Dr. Stephen Klineberg is the Founding Director of the Kinder Institute for Urban Research at Rice University, where he is also a Professor of Sociology. He has been conducting the Houston Area Survey since 1982. The 35th Houston Area Survey can be read in its entirety here: https://kinder.rice.edu/has/ More information about Steve Klineberg can be seen here: https://kinder.rice.edu/people/leaders/    

Charles and Gregg are joined in this encore episode by reVision staff member Adriana Garcia, formerly a student at Rice University researching gangs and incarceration, along with the social factors contributing to both. Adriana has an inspirational personal journey that has led her from the barrio of Pacoima, California to academia. She shares her uniquely personal view of the issues facing families and kids on the edge. 

Charles Rotramel and Gregg Taylor talk about how people change their lives, with a focus on the Readiness for Change model, the five stages of change, and the ways forward to hope. James Prochaska and colleagues developed the Readiness for Change model, officially known as the Transtheoretical Model (TTM). Details are here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transtheoretical_model James Prochaska's best known book is Changing for Good: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/46680.Changing_for_Good Dan Gilbert's TED Talk, The psychology of your future self http://www.ted.com/talks/dan_gilbert_you_are_always_changing  

Charles, Matt, and Gregg speak in this encore episode about trauma, how it manifests itself in the lives of people, responses by those affected by it, and the redemption of everyone in the cycle of trauma.

Charles, Matt, and Gregg talk in this encore episode about communities of redemption, focusing on Matt's research into trauma and recovery, how people who have experienced enormously difficulty move to change, and how we can respond.     

In an encore episode, Charles and Matt talk about El Salvador, Archbishop Oscar Romero, and the crucifixion as it is perpetrated today.

Charles, Matt, and Gregg look at recent trends in adolescent substance abuse, how to prevent it, and what factors make a difference in the lives of teens. The article referenced in this episode is here:  http://substanceuse.jjie.org/posts/substance-use-among-teens-can-be-prevented/ Additional resources can be found here: SAMHSA: http://www.samhsa.gov/ National Association of Christian Recovery: http://www.nacr.org/ The Council on Recovery: http://www.councilonrecovery.org/ The Center for the Study of Addiction and Recovery at Texas Tech University: https://www.depts.ttu.edu/hs/csa/    

Charles, Matt, and Gregg mark Matt's departure from the podcast with a look back at the great discussions we have had and a look forward at Matt's crucial work. This podcast will continue and will take a brief hiatus while we retool and reorganize. We will be posting encore episodes for a few weeks and then we will be back with new episodes. Please stick with us. Matt's ongoing projects are: Project Curate https://www.projectcurate.org/ Iconoclast Artists http://iconoclastartists.org/

Charles and Matt, and Gregg are joined in an encore episode by Dr. Shadd Maruna for an inspiring discussion of how our society labels those in the criminal justice system and processes them out of the community. The group then envision rituals of reintegration that will heal and reconnect. Shadd is now Professor of Criminology at the University of Manchester is one of the world's leading criminology researchers, particularly on re-entry. Shadd is the author of the book "Making Good: How Ex-Convicts Reform and Rebuild Their Lives." He joins the podcast from Ireland. More information about Shadd is available here: http://rscj.newark.rutgers.edu/faculty/member/dr-shadd-maruna/ The special issue on judicial rehabilitation can be found here: http://www.ejprob.ro/index.pl/january_2011 His Twitter is @Criminology 

Charles and Matt, and Gregg are joined in an encore episode by Dr. Shadd Maruna for an inspiring discussion of how our society labels those in the criminal justice system and processes them out of the community. The group then envision rituals of reintegration that will heal and reconnect. Shadd is now Professor of Criminology at the University of Manchester is one of the world's leading criminology researchers, particularly on re-entry. Shadd is the author of the book "Making Good: How Ex-Convicts Reform and Rebuild Their Lives." He joins the podcast from Ireland. More information about Shadd is available here: http://rscj.newark.rutgers.edu/faculty/member/dr-shadd-maruna/ The special issue on judicial rehabilitation can be found here: http://www.ejprob.ro/index.pl/january_2011 His Twitter is @Criminology 

Charles, Matt, and Gregg are joined by Austin Rios in this encore episode for a timely and intense discussion about the refugee crisis facing Europe and the world, and how it calls the people of God into connectedness. Rev. Austin Rios is an Episcopal Priest who is Rector of St. Paul's Within the Walls Episcopal Church in Rome, Italy. He also serves as Director of the Joel Nafuma Refugee Center, which is located inside the church and serves between 175 and 250 refugees a day. St. Paul's Within the Walls Episcopal Church is situated in the old city of Rome, Italy and has a rich history. Learn more about the church here:  http://www.stpaulsrome.it/

Charles, Matt, and Gregg are joined by Jamie Byrd to learn about how she overcame one of the most violent racial episodes in recent Texas history, and how she now lives without hate and helps others. Officer Jamie Byrd is a Police Officer with the Houston Police Department. Her father was James Byrd, Jr. of Jasper, Texas. His story is here:  http://www.biography.com/people/james-byrd-jr-092515

Charles and Gregg are joined by three young reVision soccer players to discuss their lives in the Democratic Republic of the Congo, their transition to America, the challenges they faced, and how they found hope. John Mlondoni, Joseph Kapayamba, and Iluta Shabani are soccer players for reVision Football Club and are high school students in Houston, Texas who emigrated here from Africa. They are featured in a video that has gone viral this week produced by DICK'S Sporting Goods.  The video can be viewed here: https://youtu.be/HP9oDd6gOn0

Charles, Matt, and Gregg look at the year of 2017 and try to find hope in the dark places. What results is a crucial discussion about race, social justice, God, and where we locate ourselves. Ta-Nehisi Coates' new book "We Were Eight Years in Power: An American Tragedy" is discussed in this episode and can be found here: https://www.amazon.com/We-Were-Eight-Years-Power-ebook/dp/B01MT734OD/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1512720467&sr=1-1  

Charles, Matt, and Gregg mark the beginning of the season of Advent with a discussion about the absence of God and how we wait for God to break in on our lives.

Charles and Gregg are joined by Elizabeth Henneke to discuss the enormous number of youth serving time in adult prisons, how they get there, and how she is leading efforts to help them. Elizabeth Henneke is an attorney and founder of the newly-formed non-profit Lone Star Justice Alliance which is dedicated to assisting youth in the criminal justice system. The website for Lone Star Justice Alliance is here: http://www.lonestarjusticealliance.org/

Charles, Matt, and Gregg are joined by Amy Bezecny to look at the need for foster parents, ways churches can connect and make a meaningful impact, and how each of us can get involved. Rev. Amy Bezecny is a Deacon in the United Methodist Church and is the founder and Executive Director of the non-profit Cultivating Families. The website is here: https://cultivatingfamilies.org/

Charles, Matt, and Gregg are joined again by Carissa Baldwin-McGinnis to look at how foster youth enter the criminal justice system and how the two systems often overlap to the detriment of us all.  Rev. Carissa Baldwin-McGinnis is Associate Rector of St. Andrews Episcopal Church in the Heights, Houston, and is the parent of two adopted children. St. Andrews' website is here: http://www.saecheights.org/ Cultivating Families, a foster care nonprofit mentioned in this episode, is here: https://cultivatingfamilies.org/  

Charles, Matt, and Gregg are joined by Carissa Baldwin-McGinnis to talk about the experience of being a foster parent, how trauma affects the family and how to find kinship in a divided 21st-century society. Rev. Carissa Baldwin-McGinnis is Associate Rector of St. Andrews Episcopal Church in the Heights, Houston, and is the parent of two adopted children. St. Andrews' website is here: http://www.saecheights.org/ Cultivating Families, a foster care nonprofit mentioned in this episode, is here: https://cultivatingfamilies.org/

Charles, Matt and Gregg look at a soccer team in Houston that is building community for youth who have never experienced it, and the ways it is forever changing all the lives who are part of it.

Charles, Matt, and Gregg look at our divided American society, how we can work together instead of against one another, and what God tells us about overcoming conflict and division. The Upshot charts on dividedness: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/10/05/upshot/gun-ownership-partisan-divide.html Walter Bruggermann book: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004ASOYA0/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1

Charles, Matt, and Gregg are joined by Michelle Hansford to hear her amazing story, to learn about the issues surrounding women who are incarcerated and their children of these women, and how we can get involved. Michelle Hansford is a returning citizen who is now working with OneVoice Texas. Their website is here: http://onevoicetexas.org/

Charles, Matt, and Gregg are joined by Kathryn Griffin to learn her earthy and inspiring story of addiction and recovery, how women who have been incarcerated can regain their self-worth, and how we are all connected in brokenness. Kathryn Griffin directs We've Been There Done That, an intervention program for women who are victims of human trafficking. For more information, please reach out to our podcast on Facebook or Twitter.

Charles, Gregg, and Guest Host Eric Moen are joined by Russ Oeschel to discuss effective disaster relief and recovery approaches, the role that communities play in restoring themselves, and what the church can do to help. The Ven. Russ Oeschel is the Archdeacon of the Episcopal Diocese of Texas and also coordinates disaster response for the Diocese. He is also a works with Episcopal Relief and Development.  The Episcopal Diocese of Texas' website is here: http://www.epicenter.org/ The website for Episcopal Relief and Development is here: http://www.episcopalrelief.org/

Charles, Gregg and guest host Eric Moen discuss the experience of Hurricane Harvey for Houston, the amazing outpouring of volunteerism and connectedness it spawned, and how we move forward.

Charles and Guest Host Eric Moen are joined by Jimmy Abbott and Joy Alonzo to learn about how one church has responded to the needs of its community by broadening how it thinks about outreach, and the implications this will have for everyone involved. Rev. Jimmy Abbott is Rector of Holy Comforter Episcopal Church in Spring, Texas. Dr. Joy Alonzo is a Clinical Assistant Professor at the University of Houston College of Pharmacy.  The website for Holy Comforter in Spring is: https://www.holycomforterspring.org/

Charles, Matt, and Gregg are reunited and talk with Marcos Gonzales about the link between violence and hopelessness, how we can work against white supremacy in our systems and the urgency of locating ourselves with the oppressed. Marcos Gonzales, SJ is a Jesuit candidate for the priesthood and has a Master's in Social Work from Loyola University Chicago. He is currently serving as a Case Worker at Homeboy Industries in Los Angeles California.

Gregg and Guest Host Eric Moen are joined at Homeboy Industries by Marcos Gonzales to discuss the lessons of Ignatian spirituality and how to find God all around us--even among the despised and the dispossessed. Marcos Gonzales, SJ is a Jesuit candidate for the priesthood and has a Master's in Social Work from Loyola University Chicago. He is currently serving as a Case Worker at Homeboy Industries in Los Angeles California.     

Charles and Gregg are joined by Biko Gray for an essential conversation about the white supremacist violence in Charlottesville, the Confederate monuments that are the focal point for this violence around the United States, and where we as people of faith go from here. Dr. Biko Gray is an Assistant Professor of Religion at Syracuse University. Biko can be found on Twitter @BikoMandelaGray. Biko is on Facebook here: https://www.facebook.com/BikoMandelaGray. His blog is on Medium here: https://medium.com/@bikomandelagray Writers and books Biko mentioned on the podcast include: Between the World and Me, by Ta-Nahisi Coates The Fire Next Time, by James Baldwin The works of Toni Morrison Black Skin, White Masks by Frantz Fanon Dr. Cornel West

Gregg and Guest Host Eric Moen are joined at Homeboy Industries by Alison Lass to discuss building the Global Homeboy Network and how forging connections across lines transforms everyone involved. Alison Lass is Global Homeboy Network and Media Relations Director for Homeboy Industries in Los Angeles, California.  Information about the Global Homeboy Network is here: http://www.homeboyindustries.org/ghn    

Charles and guest host Eric Moen are joined by Jim Liberatore and Debbie Allensworth to learn how one forward-thinking church has turned its focus outward toward its community and the impact that this change has had on everyone involved. Rev. Jim Liberatore is Rector of St. Andrew's Episcopal Church in Pearland, Texas. Debbie Allensworth is Associate Pastor at St. Andrew's, and Campus Pastor of Mosaic Church.  The website for St. Andrew's Episcopal Church in Pearland is: http://www.pumpkinchurch.com/index.html The internet site for their second campus, Mosaic Church, is: http://notyourmotherschurch.com/index.html