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    The Behavioral Economist's POV On Marketing Measurement

    Play Episode Listen Later May 6, 2025 49:51


    Marketing measurement is messed up – it's hard to argue otherwise – and most people agree on the reasons why: vanity metrics, imperfect models, unrealistic expectations. But there's another issue at play, argues Julian Runge, an assistant professor of marketing at Northwestern University – and that's a simple lack of communication.

    The Outcomes Era Is Dead. Long Live The Quality Era

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 29, 2025 53:25


    Emet Advisory's Erez Levin explains why the digital ad industry should transact on media quality signals like attention instead of optimizing to outcomes, conversions and flawed attribution models. The former Googler also weighs in on the ruling that Google operates an ad tech monopoly and reacts to the company's latest cookie pivot.

    How Ecommerce Brands Are Finding Customers During A Tempest Of Headwinds

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 22, 2025 38:12


    Americans are dealing with tumultuous change. For an ecommerce ad agency, that means navigating the same tariff craziness, the Meta ad platform going haywire, seeing Temu ads pulled from the US market and AI solutions making a bid to replace human agency services.

    Straight Talk With Mediaocean CEO Bill Wise

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 15, 2025 51:43


    In 2017, Mediaocean CEO Bill Wise predicted the demise of supply-side platforms. The category survived, but he's sticking to his theory that pureplay SSPs are a thing of the past. Plus: An update on Mediaocean's $550 million Innovid acquisition and Wise's counterpoint to recent criticisms of The Trade Desk.

    AI Isn't Something To Fear – Or Rush Into

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 8, 2025 52:03


    AI isn't something a marketer “does.” It's not a singular action or task, and there is no AI easy button. And so AI researcher and consultant Cecilia Dones tries to “get underneath” the reasons behind why marketers want to integrate AI into their businesses.

    ‘Real-Time Creativity,' With Brandtech CEO David Jones

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 1, 2025 61:16


    To say that David Jones, CEO and founder of The Brandtech Group, is bullish on generative AI would be an understatement. “Every single facet of marketing can be done better, faster and cheaper using technology and AI,” Jones says. “I'd rather have a fast, efficient machine than a slow, grumpy creative with a big ego.” Tune in for more zingers.

    Bob Lord Is A Holdco Skeptic

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 25, 2025 52:08


    As the newly appointed president of Horizon Media Holdings, Bob Lord is dubious that megamergers between holding companies are actually good for the client. “Bigger is not always better,” Lord says.

    Rob Wilk Is All Charged Up About Yahoo's O&O

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 18, 2025 44:53


    Microsoft ad sales vet Rob Wilk joined Yahoo last year to lead revenue for the company's advertising business with one main goal in mind: to evangelize Yahoo's owned-and-operated properties. Most advertisers just aren't aware of the inventory Yahoo has to offer – and that's on Yahoo.

    Teads On The Brain

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 11, 2025 41:30


    Now that Teads and Outbrain are one, the vision, explained CEO David Kostman when the deal was first announced, is to become an “end-to-end, full-funnel platform for the open internet.” But what does that mean in plain English?

    What It Means To Measure ‘True ROI'

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 4, 2025 49:07


    What does it take to serve mid-size brand clients; how is AI transforming media buying; and why – for the love of god – is measurement still so messed up? Mediastruction CEO and Founding Partner Marilois Snowman has a few thoughts.

    How Publishers Can Place Safe Bets In A Rigged Programmatic Game

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 25, 2025 52:40


    For publishers, digital advertising is a lot like playing craps, says Aditude's Justin Wohl. It's all about tuning out the noise while placing safe bets that work for your monetization strategy.

    The Power Of Creative Data

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 18, 2025 51:56


    Creative is a strong performance lever. In fact, according to CreativeX, ad creative is responsible for nearly half of sales lift – which is more than reach, recency and targeting combined. So why doesn't creative get the credit it deserves? Until recently, says Anastasia Leng, CEO and founder of CreativeX, technology wasn't advanced enough to measure creative decisions at scale. But that's changing.

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    Measurement Real Talk, With INCRMNTAL's Maor Sadra

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 11, 2025 55:22


    Many measurement companies are promoting marketing mix modeling as an easy-to-use solution to overcome signal loss. But that couldn't be further from the truth, says Maor Sadra, CEO and co-founder of incrementality measurement startup INCRMNTAL.

    Brands, It's Time To Test Those Alt IDs

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 4, 2025 40:57


    Agencies now have more breathing room to think carefully and be strategic about signal loss solutions, because signal loss isn't just a third-party cookie thing, says Sisi Zhang, chief data and analytics officer at Razorfish. Specifically, she says, brands need to spend more time testing alternative identifiers.

    What The World Looks Like To Smaller Agencies

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 28, 2025 43:12


    It's not easy competing for business with massive holding companies (which are only getting more massive). But the Omnicom-IPG deal “also creates opportunities for the rest of us,” says Remy Stiles, North America CEO of programmatic agency Kepler.

    A Standard-Bearer For Standards

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 21, 2025 49:46


    What do toasters have in common with transparency and online advertising standards? Quite a lot, actually, says Ben Hovaness, chief media officer at OMD Worldwide. If you can trust a set of standards – and companies conform to them – the less transparency you need. It's like when you plug in a new toaster. “You're not worried that it's going to burst into flames and destroy your home,” Hovaness says.

    Speaking Of Growth, With Duolingo's CMO

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 14, 2025 51:02


    Performance marketing can become a crutch for some brands, warns Duolingo CMO Manu Orssaud, especially app-based businesses that are under pressure to show rapid growth. That's why Duolingo makes organic marketing a top priority.

    Frank Predictions For 2025

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 7, 2025 51:00


    Tune into the first episode of the year with guest Andrew Frank, VP and distinguished analyst at research firm Gartner. We cover a lot of ground, from the impact of multiple major Big Tech antitrust trials to practical AI use cases (minus the BS).

    Breaking Away From Low-Quality Data

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 31, 2024 59:26


    Scott McKinley shares his journey from professional cyclist and captain of the 1988 US Olympic Road Cycling Team to CEO and founder of data validation provider Truthset. The road was more linear than one might think.

    On The Verge Of Convergence

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 23, 2024 42:29


    Feels like we've been waiting for the convergence of ad tech and mar tech forever. But it's finally starting to happen, and the time couldn't be more ripe, says Heather Macaulay, president of product-focused consultancy MadTech.

    For Incrementality Testing, It's One Step At A Time

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 17, 2024 40:08


    What is incrementality testing? “I've been doing more interviews with journalists lately and realize I need a better answer to this question,” says Haus Head of Strategy Olivia Kory.

    The Crusade Against Principal-Based Buying

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 10, 2024 54:28


    Jared Belsky, CEO and co-founder of indie digital agency Acadia, needs your help. He'd like someone to please explain to him why media arbitrage isn't a form of stealing.

    Insight Is A Man's Best Friend, With Mars Pet Nutrition

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 3, 2024 51:38


    Personalization and customization are great, but when marketers go overboard with targeting, they don't cast a wide enough net to attract new customers and foster growth, says JP Jansen, SVP of marketing and CMO for North America at Mars Pet Nutrition.

    Talking (Antitrust) Turkey With DCN's Jason Kint

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 26, 2024 49:24


    Digital Content Next CEO Jason Kint shares insights from inside the courtroom during closing arguments in US v. Google, ad tech antitrust edition. Plus: Kint noodles on potential remedies in the search antitrust case against Google.

    What's Next, With Nextdoor CEO Nirav Tolia

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 20, 2024 61:19


    When social media platform Nextdoor launched advertising in 2017, CEO Nirav Tolia declared it would be a $1 billion business by 2020. That didn't happen. Nextdoor generated $66 million overall in Q3 of this year, and Tolia chides himself for his hyperbole. But Nextdoor has an ambitious plan for advertising growth.

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    Wendy Clark Says, ‘Do Your Homework'

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 14, 2024 64:13


    Former Dentsu CEO Wendy Clark, current president of consulting group Consello, sees the renewed controversy around principal-based buying as a symptom of a more fundamental issue: the lack of open dialogue between brands and their agencies.

    The Case For Turning Google's Network Biz Into A Nonprofit

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 4, 2024 54:57


    If the DOJ wins its ad tech antitrust case against Google, it shouldn't force a breakup, says Arete Research's Richard Kramer, who proposes this novel solution instead: Google should spin out its network business into a public interest corporation with no hidden fees.

    Talking Shop With Mike Ryan, The PMax Whisperer

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 29, 2024 41:04


    Mike Ryan of Smarter Ecommerce helps advertisers get the most out of their Google Performance Max campaigns. Understanding what's going on inside this walled garden black box product is now the most pressing concern for many retailers and ecommerce advertisers, he says.

    Back To Marketing Basics, With Back Market's New CMO

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 22, 2024 51:54


    As the former CMO of Sonos, Joy Howard's job was to make people want to buy new electronics. Now, as the recently appointed CMO of Back Market – an online marketplace for refurbished electronics – it's her job to convince them not to.

    Pitching Performance, With Pinterest's CRO

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 15, 2024 45:05


    Having nipped at Meta's and Google's heels for years, Pinterest is finished with being the underdog. It's been getting very “serious” about its investments in lower-funnel advertising products, says Pinterest CRO Bill Watkins.

    Context Vs. Cookies With Dotdash Meredith's D/Cipher Lead

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 8, 2024 44:49


    Dotdash Meredith's Lindsay Van Kirk says the cookie-based buying tools she helped develop in her early career at AppNexus placed too much value on unreliable third-party audiences. But contextual tools like DDM's D/Cipher, which she now oversees, can build a better ad ecosystem for buyers and sellers.

    Oracle Memories, With Omar Tawakol

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 1, 2024 51:17


    Omar Tawakol is a serial entrepreneur. He sold two companies in five years, including BlueKai to Oracle in 2014. But he's in no rush with his new virtual product placement startup Rembrand. He says he's having too much fun. Plus: Meditating on the end of Oracle Advertising.

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    Ari Paparo, On The Ground In Virginia

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 24, 2024 52:55


    Covering Google's ad tech antitrust trial in Virginia is surreal for anyone who's been in ad tech as long as Ari Paparo. He knows most of the people on the stand.

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    Adam Heimlich, Ad Tech Time Traveler

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 17, 2024 52:08


    If Adam Heimlich could travel back in time to alter the future of online advertising, he would go to Google's acquisition of DoubleClick in 2007, but not necessarily to stop it.

    Talking Advanced Audiences With NBCU's Alison Levin

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 10, 2024 46:23


    Advanced audience targeting is perhaps the most significant change in TV ad buying structures, says Alison Levin, NBCUniversal's president of advertising and partnerships, on this week's episode of AdExchanger Talks.

    An AMA With Reddit's New VP Of Ad Product

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 3, 2024 52:36


    It's a misconception that Redditors categorically dislike advertising, says newly hired VP of Ad Product Management Jyoti Vaidee. In fact, 60% of Reddit users want brands to participate in communities, she says, so long as their interactions are relevant and respectful.

    Gopuff Goes In-House

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 27, 2024 56:36


    Have we finally reached peak retail media, or is the recent explosion of RMNs the sign of a healthy and thriving marketplace? “It's the right question to be asking, especially at this time,” says Gopuff's SVP of business, Daniel Folkman, who helped spearhead the company's advertising business.

    Let's Live In A Data Democracy

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 20, 2024 56:25


    Serial ad tech entrepreneur Kamakshi Sivaramakrishnan founded two startups roughly a decade apart, both for a similar reason: making data available across the enterprise in a way that's also respectful of the consumer.

    Hyundai's New Marketing Direction

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 13, 2024 63:01


    Last month, Hyundai eliminated the chief marketing officer role and split the function in two: creative and performance. The move makes sense because two brains are better than one, says Angela Zepeda, Hyundai's former CMO and now its chief creative officer. But there are critics to this approach.

    The Move Toward Better Measurement

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 6, 2024 53:17


    There's only so much you can do to measure earned media, says Najah Ayoub, CMO of Piece of Cake Moving & Storage. That's why the brand invests so much in the customer experience. Plus: Piece of Cake's hybrid MMM/MTA approach to attribution.

    The Skeptical Technologist

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 30, 2024 54:27


    AI-powered systems should make the humans that use them smarter, says WPP CTO Stephan Pretorius. “It has to be people first, not technology first.” Plus: why “technology doesn't destroy jobs, it destroys tasks.”

    Three-Ply Vs. One-Ply Programmatic

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 23, 2024 49:36


    What does programmatic media have in common with toilet paper? A lot more than you might think, says Sherine Ebadi, managing director of forensic investigations at Kroll. It's a question of quality (or the lack thereof).

    Antitrust Soul Searching

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 16, 2024 55:04


    With Judge Amit Mehta's ruling expected this fall, Adam Epstein, co-CEO of adMarketplace, breaks down the DOJ's search-focused antitrust case against Google. Plus: why Google's Performance Max has some search advertisers hopping mad.

    Brand Safety Is Critical – But Don't Overdo It

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 9, 2024 49:15


    It's time for advertisers to get more nuanced with their approach to brand safety, says Mia Libby, The Wall Street Journal's SVP of enterprise. It's okay to be cautious, but excluding all news from programmatic media plans isn't the answer.

    Travelers Just Want To Spend

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 2, 2024 56:41


    Once consumers are ready to travel, they're often ready to spend on almost everything, from beauty and booze to electronics and streaming services. And that creates a unique opportunity for advertisers to reach a new audience with high intent, says Christine Maguire, global VP of commercial business at TripAdvisor.

    MediaMath (By Infillion) Rides Again

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 25, 2024 45:16


    It's been almost one year since MediaMath went out of business. Two months later, Infillion acquired the assets out of bankruptcy. Now it's time for the next phase, says Infillion CRO and CMO Laurel Rossi.

    Measure Me This

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 18, 2024 51:22


    Shoppable TV ads may encourage sales, but they lack the measurement and performance benchmarks advertisers expect. Buyers must create their own benchmarks – and can only do so by actually testing these new ad units, including with their upfront budgets, says Mike Fisher, executive director of investment innovation at GroupM US.

    Practical Ethics For Generative AI

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 11, 2024 54:51


    It's hard to set a strategy for AI adoption without getting a little hands-on experience first, says Betty Louie, a partner and general counsel at The Brandtech Group. You have to play around with the different tools before you even know where the guardrails are, she says.

    The Case Against Last Click

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 4, 2024 58:37


    If there's one thing that makes advertising measurement consultant Andrew Covato roll his eyes and shake his head, it's the endurance of last-click attribution. Last click may seem “simple” and “tidy,” Covato says, but it doesn't reflect the full funnel.

    Lotame's Next Phase

    Play Episode Listen Later May 28, 2024 53:24


    Signal loss is real, but don't write an elegy for data management platforms just yet, says Andy Monfried, CEO and founder of Lotame, which turned 18 this year. Also in this episode: Lotame's reinvention of itself as a data collaboration platform.

    Don't Call It A Comeback

    Play Episode Listen Later May 21, 2024 36:38


    With the rise of generative AI software and major changes to search platforms even in just the past year or two, SEO and SEM tactics are back. Everyone and their mother is trying to figure out how to make search work and what the new world of search marketing even looks like. Enter Navah Hopkins.

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