Podcasts about marketers

Jeanie Cisco Meth is a dynamic speaker, best-selling author, and resilience coach known for her passion in helping others conquer bullying and develop true self-confidence. Having turned her own struggles with bullying, illness, and adversity into powerful lessons, Jeanie now empowers individuals and organizations—including schools, police, and the military—to implement bully-proofing strategies that foster authenticity, personal growth, and a positive mindset. Through her speaking, coaching programs, and book "Bully Proofing You," she has inspired countless people to break negative cycles, develop emotional awareness, and transform obstacles into stepping stones for lasting success. In this episode of Marketer of the Day, Jeanie returns to discuss her journey from classroom teacher and military veteran to founder of a coaching program that trains others in bully-proofing. She shares how her approach involves not just addressing bullying directly, but also empowering individuals to understand and regulate their emotions, reframe negative experiences, and create planned responses rather than reactive outbursts. Jeanie draws a clear distinction between discipline and bullying, emphasizes the importance of emotional intelligence, and explains how healing personal triggers can diffuse power dynamics in bullying situations. Listeners will hear real-life transformations and gain practical tools to build resilience, confidence, and purpose. Quotes: “A bully is someone who tries to intimidate or control through body language, words, or actions. Once it becomes physical, that's assault—and that's a different issue entirely.” “Bullying is rarely about you—it's about the other person's pain. If you heal your emotional triggers, you can respond with purpose instead of reacting from hurt.” “There's a fine line between discipline and bullying. Discipline calls out wrong behavior in love and truth; bullying attacks the person for being themselves.” Resources: Visit Jeanie Cisco Meth's Website Connect with Jeanie Cisco Meth on LinkedIn Connect with Jeanie Cisco Meth on Facebook Watch Jeanie Cisco Meth on YouTube Get "Bully Proofing You" on Amazon

Download our “Tell a Better Story, Win Better Clients” E-book at https://working-towards.com/Chad de Lisle, VP of Marketing at Disruptive Advertising, joins the show to break down what it really takes to build a mission driven, high performing marketing agency. With nearly two decades in digital marketing, Chad shares his journey from an aspiring English professor to leading one of the most respected performance marketing teams in the country.We dive into:• How Disruptive is growing toward a $100M vision• Why pairing purpose with performance drives real long term results• Scaling through people, culture, and clarity• The realities of leading marketing inside a marketing agency• AI's role in the future of storytelling and brand growth• Chad's creative passion project: the Heroic Round podcastThis one is full of wisdom for marketers, founders, and creatives who want to build something that lasts.Connect with Chad:"Heroic Round Podcast": https://www.youtube.com/@HeroicRound LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chad-de-lisle/Website: https://disruptiveadvertising.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/noirwhale/X: https://x.com/noirwhaleFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/chad.delisle.1/NoirWhale: https://noirwhale.com/NoirWhale Tumblr: http://noirwhale.tumblr.com/

Sid Sudhakaran, Head of Data Strategy & Engineering for North America at Kantar, explains the benefits of the company's ambitious AI assistant: KAiA. He explains how it democratizes data, when chatbots work for marketers (and when they don't), and the real customer pain points they are tackling each and every day. For Further Reading: Embedding Artificial Intelligence in the World's Largest CompaniesLeveraging GenAI for Connected InsightsKantar forecasts ten marketing trends for 2026 strategic planningMMA and Kantar unveil how consumers are using AIMore about KAiA Listen on your favorite podcast app: https://pod.link/1715735755

I'm really good at being productive, it's honestly one of my strongest professional skills after 12 years of practice. So why did I completely ignore everything I know and have one of the most chaotic Mondays in recent memory?In this episode, I share the story of how I skipped all my usual productivity guardrails, tried to power through everything at once, and ended up running the worst team meeting of my career. But here's what I really learned: productivity isn't just about managing your tasks, it's about managing your energy. And that Monday was a masterclass in what happens when you ignore both.This one's for the marketing professionals who know exactly what they should do to stay productive and organised... but sometimes do the complete opposite anyway. We'll dive into why energy management might be even more important than time management, and how understanding your natural rhythms can make or break your most productive intentions.Follow me on LinkedIn : https://www.linkedin.com/in/emma-windsor29/ For more episodes visit my website : emmawindsor.com

Michael Schindler is a visionary strategist, acclaimed author, and high-performance coach recognized for empowering leaders and organizations to thrive in the age of AI. As the creator of the VUCA Max system and author of "The Rise of Humanness," Michael blends science, coaching, and authenticity to help people harness clarity, adaptability, and personal mission in a rapidly evolving world. His programs have guided over 7,000 individuals—veterans, business leaders, and those in transition—toward greater self-mastery, resilience, and transformational growth. In this episode of Marketer of the Day, Michael shares his philosophy on using AI as a collaborative tool for strategic planning and personal advancement. He details the importance of mastering your "human operating system"—gaining clarity mentally, physically, spiritually, relationally, and financially—before layering on external success strategies. Michael demystifies common fears about AI, advocates for a balanced, mindful approach, and explains how meaningful growth starts with micro-wins and authentic self-reflection. Listeners will discover practical frameworks to navigate uncertainty, challenge self-limiting beliefs, and elevate their life and leadership in the AI era. Quotes: “AI should be your assistant, not your replacement. Use it to stimulate your thinking, but always bring your human authenticity and discernment.” “You cannot program success on a dysfunctional human operating system. Start by clarifying what it means to be you in five areas: mind, body, spirit, relationships, and finances.” “Transition hits us all differently. If you feel that emptiness, it's time to address your own operating system and get clarity.” Resources: Visit Michael Schindler's Website Connect with Michael Schindler on Facebook Connect with Michael Schindler on LinkedIn Get "The Rise of Humanness" on Amazon

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In this episode, we're bringing on Ben Bennett from Smart Marketer to talk about ad creative. Ben leads the creative team at Smart Marketer Agency, where they do done-for-you creative work. We'll discuss the types of creatives that they're seeing absolutely crushing it right now.-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-► Visit Our Website For Training and Resources ► Leave Us An Honest Rating, Email An Image Of Your Rating To team@theecommercealley.com, We'll Send You A $10 Amazon Gift Card As An Appreciation Gift!► Learn About Our Mentorship Program For Ecom Brands Making Over $10k/month ► Checkout Our Upcoming Software, Breezeway - Never Second-Guess Your Meta Ads Again ► Follow Josh on social media: YouTube | Instagram | Facebook | TikTok |

Want to prepare for social in 2026 but have no clue where to start? Daniel and Jay break down what they've learned about social in 2025 and what to anticipate in 2026. From jumps in AI to boosting posts, things are changing…and fast.  They explain: > Why boosting “loser” organic posts may not be the push you think it is > The power of hero images > Why you need a commenting AND reply strategy If you're a Marketer planning for the upcoming year, this one's for you.

This week's guest is Sahar Khan, the dynamic Head of Marketing at Bayut. A foundational member of the team, Sahar joined Bayut in 2014 as one of its first sales employees and has been instrumental in building the brand into the UAE's leading property portal. With a innate passion for creative, out-of-the-box marketing since childhood, she has spearheaded some of the company's most iconic campaigns, including the landmark partnership with Chris Hemsworth. In this episode, Sahar takes us through her incredible journey from a salesperson in a small startup to leading marketing for a household name. She shares invaluable insights on building a brand in a unique market like the UAE, the evolution of her marketing strategies, and the delicate balance between sales and marketing teams. Sahar also opens about her leadership philosophy, the importance of staying true to one's principles, and how maintaining a clear mind through fitness is crucial to her success.   2:41 - Humble Beginnings at Bayut 4:04 - A Marketer from the Start 5:55 - Marketing in the UAE: A Unique Playbook 8:45 - Sales vs. Marketing: The Eternal Friction 11:55 - From Underdog to Market Leader 13:27 – Working with Chris Hemsworth 20:00 - Solving Industry Problems: Content and Verification 30:13 - Live Events vs. Digital Marketing Measuring the intangible impact of live events like the iconic B3 launch and the clear metrics of digital campaigns. 36:57 – Dubai's booming real estate market 42:51 - Where Big Ideas Come From 52:15 - Giving Back: More Than Money 55:10 - A Personal Conversation on Principles and Pain 1:08:09 - Starting Over: Lessons for Bayut 2.0 Show Sponsors:  AYS Developers: A design-focused company dedicated to crafting exceptional homes, vibrant communities, and inspiring lifestyle experiences. https://bit.ly/AYS-Developers     Socials:  Follow Spencer Lodge on Social Media https://www.instagram.com/spencer.lodge/?hl=en  https://www.tiktok.com/@spencer.lodge  https://www.linkedin.com/in/spencerlodge/  https://www.youtube.com/c/SpencerLodgeTV  https://www.facebook.com/spencerlodgeofficial/    Follow Sahar Khan on Social Media https://www.instagram.com/saharkdxb/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/sahar-khan-9127958a/  

Carl Grant III is an author, consultant, and speaker known for helping people and organizations unlock fulfillment through mindset, generosity, and purpose. As the creator of initiatives like the High Tech Prayer Breakfast and South by Southwest Sunday Service, and as a highly sought-after business development coach, Carl has empowered thousands to shift focus from self-centeredness to helping others. In “How to Live the Abundant Life,” Carl draws from years of experience—spanning personal trial, spiritual transformation, and business leadership—to provide a practical, inspiring blueprint for those seeking meaning, joy, and authentic success. In this episode of Marketer of the Day, Carl explores what “abundance” means beyond finances, emphasizing how true fulfillment comes from helping others, finding and living your purpose, and embracing both spiritual and personal growth. He discusses overcoming failures, controlling your mindset, and changing negative thought patterns. Carl reveals how adversity and generosity fuel personal transformation, shares lessons learned from his faith journey, and offers actionable steps for listeners to shift from taking to giving—at home, at work, and in the community. Quotes: “Abundance isn't about more stuff—it's enjoying life fully by pouring into others and stepping into your purpose.” “You have to take your mind off yourself. True transformation starts when you focus on helping others.” “Giving without expecting anything in return creates more blessings and opportunities than you can imagine.” Resources: Get "How to Live the Abundant Life" on Amazon  Connect with Carl Grant III on LinkedIn

Natalie Berthe is a startup and growth strategist, serial founder, and the author of “Love Your LinkedIn Profile.” Natalie specializes in helping entrepreneurs—from seasoned executives to emerging founders—transform messy, complex professional challenges into clear, actionable solutions. Drawing on over a decade of experience on LinkedIn, she guides clients to optimize their profiles, build credibility, and attract new opportunities without jargon or gatekeeping. Natalie's approach fuses practical business sense with authentic personal branding, encouraging professionals to tell their true story and network with intention in the digital age. Her latest book, “Love Your LinkedIn Profile: How to Build a Kick Ass Profile, Elevate Your Personal Brand, and Get Results,” is both a practical guide and a call to embrace authenticity online. In this episode of Marketer of the Day, Natalie shares her journey from early LinkedIn adopter to recognized profile optimization expert. She explores the realities of LinkedIn's evolving AI-driven algorithm, the impact of authenticity versus “playing to the algorithm,” and the critical role of relationships and nuance on the platform. Natalie uncovers the pitfalls of generic profiles, explains how to optimize for both AI and human connection, and discusses systemic inequities in social media reach. Packed with actionable advice, her insights help listeners cut through overwhelm, craft their unique professional narrative, and take control of their digital presence. You'll leave empowered to build an authentic profile, engage purposefully, and leverage LinkedIn for real-world opportunities. Quotes: “Once you set up your profile properly…and you've got your main content, the only thing you should be doing quarterly is adding whatever you accomplished during the previous quarter.” “LinkedIn is really about developing conversations and relationships. They're legit... that's why you make more money or find bigger opportunities.” “If you're speaking to everyone, you're speaking to no one. Build your profile for you—let your authenticity do the attracting and the repelling.” Resources: Visit Natalie Berthe's Website Get “Love Your LinkedIn Profile” on Amazon Connect with Natalie Berthe on LinkedIn Connect with Natalie Berthe on Facebook Watch and follow Natalie Berthe on TikTok

Johnny Scifo is an award-winning author, musician, and meditation teacher, renowned for blending neuroscience, spiritual practice, and creative artistry. From touring musician to founder of Yoga Sound School, Johnny has empowered Ivy League students, wellness professionals, and everyday seekers to cultivate awareness, resilience, and self-connection. His unique approach unites Eastern and Western philosophies, encouraging people to be present, embrace experimentation, and honor their interconnectedness. Johnny's latest work, "The Kettle Pours a Universe," invites readers into a lyrical exploration of mindfulness, creativity, and the beauty of interwoven lives. In this episode of Marketer of the Day, Johnny discusses his transformative journey, the role of daily habits and mindfulness meditation, and the lessons found in both failure and artistic pursuit. He shares the pitfalls of chasing fleeting trends versus finding authentic creative expression. Johnny offers practical meditation guidance, explains how creativity is a process—not just a product—and highlights why honoring elders and community is central to lasting happiness. You'll come away inspired to experiment, reflect, and connect more deeply with yourself and others. Quotes: “Art is the byproduct of a creative process. If we focus only on the end goal, we get stuck—take a break, reflect, and creativity returns.” “It's not about suppressing thoughts, but seeing where your energy is going. Meditation helps you notice, honor, and let go.” “Interconnectedness—remembering our stories are all woven together—is the lesson that leads to a fuller, happier life.” Resources: Visit Johnny Scifo's Website Follow Johnny Scifo on Instagram Follow Johnny Scifo on Insight Timer Follow Johnny Scifo on Substack Get "The Kettle Pours a Universe: A Novella" on Amazon

Send us a textUseful beats clever, every time. We open with the hard truth about why most content and sales conversations miss: they're built for the creator, not the customer. From there we get tactical. Shannon and Cord map the journey from problem unaware to purchase-ready, sharing practical ways to qualify buyer knowledge, read heat, and design messages that fit each stage. If you've ever watched a good lead go cold after a feature dump, this conversation offers a cleaner path: serve first, sell second, and match your offer to what the buyer is ready to hear.Cord's background adds weight to the playbook. Raised on a working farm, sharpened in big-agency work in Chicago, and proven through scaling a national franchise footprint, he brings an operator's eye to marketing. We talk about turning seasonal spikes into steady pipelines, finding adjacent offers your customers already want, and raising lifetime value by simply being more useful. One standout example: shifting “spring service” outreach to fall, bundling pickup, tune-ups, and trickle chargers to smooth demand and increase trust. Small changes in timing and framing can unlock meaningful revenue without more noise.We also share where Shed Geek is headed next. Expect more topical, timely episodes that spotlight what matters now, live ad reads that keep promotions current, and sponsored newsletter segments that deliver value first. We're bringing more consumer-facing moments into a B2B space so manufacturers, RTO partners, and suppliers can speak directly to shed buyers' real questions. As AI reshapes search and discovery, teams that educate clearly and show outcomes will win the clicks—and the customers.If this conversation sparked an idea you can use this week, tap follow, share it with a teammate, and leave a quick review. Your feedback helps us build more content that serves you.For more information or to know more about the Shed Geek Podcast visit us at our website.Would you like to receive our weekly newsletter?  Sign up here.Follow us on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, or YouTube at the handle @shedgeekpodcast.To be a guest on the Shed Geek Podcast visit our website and fill out the "Contact Us" form.To suggest show topics or ask questions you want answered email us at info@shedgeek.com.This episodes Sponsors:Studio Sponsor: Shed ProCardinal ManufacturingSolar BlasterThree Oaks Trading CompanyNewFound Solutions

What really drives explosive organic audience growth in 2025: algorithms, content hacks, or something deeper? From Marketingland 2025, Sophie Miller, founder of Pretty Little Marketer and the creator behind a 600,000-strong community across Instagram and LinkedIn, breaks down the visibility, shareability, and social SEO strategies behind her meteoric rise. Sophie shares the real story of how she went from overwhelmed university student to full-time creator with one of the most engaged marketing communities online. She unpacks: -The strategic “visibility opportunities” that fuel organic growth (and why it's not about being everywhere) -How to design content that gets shared — from emotional triggers to identity-based resonance -Why social search and platform-specific SEO are becoming just as important as shares -The role of “thin content,” clear bios, and frictionless profile design in converting discovery into follows -How to use your existing audience to reach their audience — and build a community that sticks around for years Whether you're building a personal brand, growing a startup's social presence, or trying to break through on saturated platforms, this conversation will challenge how you think about reach, retention, and what it truly takes to build a loyal audience from zero. CallRail is the lead engagement platform built for marketers who need clean attribution, smarter insights, and zero missed leads. From AI-powered call tracking and conversation intelligence to a 24/7 AI voice agent, CallRail helps teams maximize every inbound touchpoint and convert more leads into customers. Visit https://www.callrail.com/proveit?utm_campaign=q4_2025_marketing_millennials_podcast&utm_medium=thirdparty_advertising&utm_source=marketingmillennials to check it out. Follow Sophie: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sophiealicemiller/ Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: https://themarketingmillennials.com/ Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: https://workweek.com/

Finding it difficult to navigate the changing landscape of data protection? In this episode of the DMI podcast, host Will Francis speaks with Steven Roberts, Group Head of Marketing at Griffith College, Chartered Director, certified Data Protection Officer, and long-time marketing leader. Steven demystifies GDPR, AI governance, and the rapidly evolving regulatory environment that marketers must now navigate. Steven explains how GDPR enforcement has matured, why AI has created a new layer of complexity, and how businesses can balance innovation with compliance. He breaks down the EU AI Act, its risk-based structure, and its implications for organizations inside and outside the EU. Steven also shares practical guidance for building internal AI policies, tackling “shadow AI,” reducing data breach risks, and supporting teams with training and clear governance. For an even deeper look into how businesses can ensure data protection compliance, check out Steven's book, Data Protection for Business: Compliance, Governance, Reputation and Trust. Steven's Top 3 Tips Build data protection into projects from the start, using tools like Data Protection Impact Assessments to uncover risks early. Invest in regular staff training to avoid common mistakes caused by human error. Balance compliance with business performance by setting clear policies, understanding your risk appetite, and iterating your AI governance over time. The Ahead of the Game podcast is brought to you by the Digital Marketing Institute and is available on ⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube, Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠all other podcast platforms. And if you enjoyed this episode please leave a review so others can find us. If you have other feedback for or would like to be a guest on the show, email the podcast team! Timestamps 01:29 – AI's impact on GDPR & the explosion of new global privacy laws 03:26 – Is GDPR the global gold standard? 05:04 – GDPR enforcement today: Who gets fined and why 07:09 – Cultural attitudes toward data: EU vs. US 08:51 – The EU AI Act explained: Risk tiers, guardrails & human oversight 10:48 – What businesses must do: DPIAs, fundamental rights assessments & more 13:38 – Shadow AI, risk appetite & internal governance challenges 17:10 – Should you upload company data to ChatGPT? 20:40 – How the AI Act affects countries outside the EU 24:47 – Will privacy improve over time? 28:45 – What teams can do now: Tools, processes & data audits 33:49 – Data enrichment tools: targeting vs. Legality 36:47 – Will anyone actually check your data practices? 40:06 – Steven's top tips for navigating GDPR & AI 

Matt Koop, Vice President and Founder of The New Flat Rate, brings decades of experience in home service contracting, having worked his way up from service technician roles in plumbing, electrical, and HVAC. Through deep industry insight and innovation, Matt helps contractors maximize profits, build customer trust, and prevent burnout by adopting modern, proactive service strategies. His company's automatic presentation systems empower contractors to close jobs faster, provide consistent pricing, and offer premium options that address customers' long-term needs—not just immediate fixes. Matt's mission centers on empowering contractors to support their families, maintain stable finances, and do work they are proud of, all while delivering real value to homeowners. In this episode of Marketer of the Day, Matt shares how the information age changed the home services landscape—forcing contractors to adapt as savvy customers search for answers online and question traditional approaches. He explains the pitfalls of product-focused “good, better, best” options and introduces his proven system for presenting five tailored options for every job, ensuring both customer satisfaction and increased profitability. Matt's practical stories highlight the importance of proactive solutions, transparent communication, and aligning pricing with true business costs to create stable, thriving businesses that support contractors and their families. Quotes: “People want to buy the future. It's not just about solving a current problem, but about preventing the next one.” “In a confused mind, the answer is always no. Our job isn't just to educate, but to present options customers can understand and choose confidently.” “What got you here won't get you there. Contractors must adapt to today's market and rethink how they deliver value.” Resources: Visit Matt Koop's Website Connect with Matt Koop on LinkedIn Connect with Mark Koop on Facebook Follow Matt Koop on Instagram

Last week I talked about marketing UX within your organization and how you can use internal marketing strategies to build awareness and executive support. This week, I want to dig into a more hands-on approach: getting your stakeholders directly involved in UX activities.If all my talk about guerrilla marketing and PR stunts felt a bit overwhelming, this is a simpler path. The more you can expose stakeholders and colleagues across the organization to real users, the more user-centered their thinking will become. It really is that simple.Why bother getting them involved?I know what you might be thinking. Do I really want stakeholders hovering around during user research? What if they derail everything with their opinions?Fair concerns. But here is what happens when you do invite them in.It builds support. The more stakeholders are involved, the more invested they become. And the more likely they are to support UX initiatives when it matters.It builds empathy. When stakeholders interact with users, even indirectly, they begin to empathize with their frustrations and genuinely want to improve the experience.It builds relationships. By involving your stakeholders, you get to better understand their motivations and needs. And what will actually influence them to be more user-centered.Start with the basicsAt the most basic level, you can get stakeholders trying UX activities themselves. Sit with them and let them experience what card sorting feels like. Or walk them through a usability test as an observer.Then you can teach them how to run these processes on their own. I have done this countless times, and watching someone run their first usability test is genuinely rewarding.While this may seem obvious, remember that we are looking at how to influence others and change the culture. Getting hands-on experience is powerful.Expose them to real usersOne technique I use constantly is recording sessions I run with users and then creating short videos afterwards.Low-light videos (sometimes called horror videos) are 90-second compilations of all the frustrations and irritations a user has had with an experience. Watching someone struggle, get confused, or openly curse at your interface is deeply uncomfortable. And deeply effective at building empathy.Highlight videos are the opposite. I use these when I want to show stakeholders how improvements we made to the system really do work. There is something very powerful about allowing stakeholders to see real users interacting with the system and actually succeeding.Both types of videos work because they make the user real. Not a persona slide or a data point, but an actual human being trying to get something done. Circulate these videos to stakeholders and watch how quickly conversations change.You can also invite stakeholders to attend live usability sessions. Provide lunch as an incentive. Steve Krug's book "Rocket Surgery Made Easy" describes a brilliant approach: run three morning usability testing sessions that stakeholders observe, followed by a lunch meeting where you brainstorm improvements based on what everyone just witnessed.Another option is including users in stakeholder workshops. Pay users to attend and provide their perspectives during planning sessions. This creates situations where stakeholders interact with customers in ways they may never have before.Think about it. Many people in organizations rarely have face-to-face time with customers. Marketers, senior executives, compliance officers, developers... they operate based on assumptions and secondhand information. Any direct exposure to users can fundamentally shift their thinking.Turn engagement into advocacyOnce stakeholders are interacting with users and believing in the process, they can become advocates. People who influence others in their departments and across the organization.Build communities of people who care about UX. Provide them with tools to promote it, such as branded materials or how-to guides they can share with their teams.And remember to reward their advocacy. Celebrate those who promote UX best practices. Invest time in making them feel valued. I try to publicly recognize people who are championing user-centered thinking, even in small ways. It reinforces the behavior and signals to others that this matters.In essence, we need to involve our colleagues across the organization to help them understand users and become user advocates. Getting people hands-on with real users changes everything.Next week, I will look at how to break down business silos that often hinder user experience and limit the kind of cultural change we have been discussing.

Is modern marketing broken, and are you missing the fundamental frameworks that are relevant today? In this episode of World's Greatest Business Thinkers, host Nick Hague welcomes back Mark Ritson, founder of the Mini MBA, to unpack why marketing has regressed despite unprecedented access to data, tools, and talent. Mark breaks down the misconceptions and differences behind "strategies with long and short impact," why the 95/5 rule should guide budget allocation, and how most CMOs are dangerously undertrained. He exposes the pitfalls of discounting, the power of friction in brand positioning, and the realities of growth that many leaders overlook. Packed with frameworks, brutal truths, and practical direction, this conversation equips marketers to build sustainable, profitable brands in a noisy landscape. What You Will Learn: Why advertising effectiveness has declined 10% over three decades despite AI and data abundance The critical difference between "Long and Short impact" and what brands actually need  How the 95/5 Rule reshapes budget allocation The profitability vs. revenue trap that derails most businesses Why price discounting is almost always a losing move, and how to reframe pricing  How to build distinctiveness into brand positioning through productive friction  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure to subscribe, rate, and review it on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTube Podcasts. Instructions on how to do this are here. Mark Ritson Bio: Mark Ritson is a PhD marketer, celebrated professor, and founder of the Mini MBA. Over 25 years he taught at London Business School, MIT, Melbourne Business School, and Minnesota, earning multiple top-teaching awards. A former in-house consultant to LVMH, he has advised brands from Subaru to Sephora. His pricing research was cited during a Nobel Prize speech, and his prolific journalism has earned seven PPA Columnist of the Year awards. Now based in Tasmania, he focuses on the Mini MBA, writes for major publications, and continues skewering marketing nonsense with trademark wit. Quotes: "I think it's slightly worse than it was thirty years ago; we're certainly not improving. For all the talk of data and AI and everything else, when you see the occasional longitudinal data point, advertising is less effective than it used to be. We've slipped a little, not too much, but we certainly haven't made a lot of progress." "Retailers are selling the same stuff to the same people at the same time in the same place. Their obsession with price is because over the road, there's a competitor with 80% the same stock in the same places, going after the same customers. Price becomes this golden lever, and it's just something I never thought of before until I actually went in and started seeing it from the retail point of view." "All of the campaigns which are extraordinarily good at long-term brand building are also, with almost without exception, really good at immediately selling product. Long delivers short. You run a great TV campaign, it's gonna instantly start shifting product the next day as well as creating long-term changes in memory structures that might last for years." "There are 19 times more consumers outside the market than inside it. You want to spend 60-70% of your budget on the 95% so you're ready for when they come in later. The key lesson is it's usually too late to go after the 5% when they come into market, you need salience established beforehand." Episode Resources: Mark Ritson on LinkedIn MiniMBA Website  Nick Hague on LinkedIn World's Greatest Business Thinkers on Apple Podcasts World's Greatest Business Thinkers on Spotify World's Greatest Business Thinkers on YouTube

Ali Cammelletti, founder of SparkYourMindset.com, brings over 30 years of experience in hospitality, leadership, and sales. She helps business owners and leaders build resilience, strengthen team culture, and improve performance through mindset work, coaching, and team-building programs. With a focus on balance, organization, and emotional intelligence, Ali teaches leaders how to stay motivated, market consistently, and avoid burnout while creating the life and business they truly want. Her philosophy centers on living without regrets and taking action today instead of waiting for the “right time.”In this episode of Marketer of the Day, Ali shares how entrepreneurs can stay grounded, embrace both their masculine drive and feminine empathy, and lead with intention. She talks about the importance of structure, color-coded time blocking, manifesting goals, and continuous learning. You'll learn how to balance discipline with self-care, lead with authenticity, and align your mindset with your mission so you can grow your business and your life with purpose. Quotes: “You can't fake manifesting. You have to believe it in your heart, set your goals, and take action. People can see right through anything that isn't real.” “Not everybody's strength is to be an entrepreneur. It takes patience, resilience, and a willingness to keep marketing yourself even when you're tired.” “When I am my true, authentic self and let things flow, the right opportunities show up. You can't put a dollar amount on every interaction.” “I live without regrets. Life is short, and it's up to us to execute in a way that honors who we are and lets us experience what truly matters.” Resources: Connect with Ali Cammelletti on LinkedIn Connect with Ali Cammelletti on Facebook Follow Ali Cammelletti on Instagram Watch Ali Cammellettie on YouTube Leadership starts with inner work first

In this engaging episode Megan welcomes the incredible Tracy Stuckrath, an expert in event marketing and inclusion. Together, they explore the transformative experience of the Club Ichi Barefoot Business Retreat, a unique gathering that fosters peer-to-peer learning and community building among event professionals.Tracy shares her insights from the unique retreat, highlighting the importance of creating environments where attendees can connect, learn, and thrive. She discusses the concept of the "Spontaneous Think Tank," where participants contribute topics they want to learn about and share their expertise, creating a dynamic and collaborative learning atmosphere.Key Takeaways Include:- The Power of Community: Tracy emphasizes the value of building relationships and how retreats can enhance collaboration and support among entrepreneurs and event planners.- Reframing Self-Talk: She shared how she learned from Dr. Jess at the retreat how to shift your mindset from self-imposed limitations to intentions, helping to reduce shame and foster a more positive approach to personal and professional goals.- Food Safety and Inclusivity: Tracy discusses her mission to ensure that events are safe and inclusive for ALL attendees, addressing dietary restrictions and accessibility needs are essential to create memorable experiences.- The Role of Neurodiversity in Events: Tracy highlights the importance of understanding neurodiversity and how event professionals can design spaces that accommodate diverse needs, ensuring everyone feels welcome and included.Our Guest...Tracy Stuckrath is a passionate advocate for food safety and inclusion in the events industry through her business Thrive Meetings. With over 15 years of experience, she helps organizations create menus that cater to diverse dietary needs and ensures that all attendees feel safe and valued. Tracy's expertise extends to consulting on event design, focusing on accessibility and the overall attendee experience. Check out her weekly podcast, Eating at a Meeting!A fun, quick chat everyone can benefit from!~._.*._.~Making a Marketer is brought to you by Powers of Marketing - providing exceptional podcast experiences & online and in-person events since 2013. Check out episode 179, and if our show moves you, please share it and let us know your thoughts!Take our LISTENER Community Survey!!! HERE** Our editor Avri makes amazing music! Check out his music on Spotify ! **

Maeve Ferguson is a business strategist and creator of The Client Engine, a proven system that helps authors, coaches, and consultants transform their intellectual property into high-converting diagnostic funnels. She guides experts to turn their ideas into assets that prequalify leads, personalize marketing, and generate high-ticket sales automatically. Maeve shares how customized experiences help businesses stand out amid generic AI content and noisy online competition. Her system allows business owners to focus on their strengths while using automation to drive results. In this episode of Marketer of the Day, Maeve explains how diagnostic funnels use personalized questions and data to collapse the “know, like, and trust” factor into minutes. She reveals how agentic AI tools analyze sales data, improve copy, and even scout speaking opportunities by syncing with a calendar. Listeners will learn how to replace outdated lead magnets with dynamic, self-optimizing systems that attract ideal clients. Maeve also discusses how her team helps experts scale impact through automation that remembers, nurtures, and sells for them. Quotes: “When you personalize every step of the journey, your leads stop feeling sold to and start feeling understood. That's where real conversion begins.” “AI isn't here to replace your message. It's here to amplify it, but only if you feed it the right strategy and structure.” “A quiz or diagnostic isn't just a marketing trick. It's a mirror that shows your audience exactly what they need and how you can help.” “Most entrepreneurs chase leads. Smart ones build systems that attract, nurture, and convert automatically.” Resources: Connect with Maeve Ferguson on LinkedIn Connect with Maeve Ferguson on Facebook Follow Maeve Ferguson on Instagram Watch Maeve Ferguson on YouTube You've built the body of work. Now it's time to build the engine that sells it.

Send us a textIn the final Coffee Nº5 episode of the year, Lara Schmoisman breaks down the marketing ecosystem of 2026—an environment defined by AI clarity, human-led storytelling, micro-experts, privacy-first data practices, and integrated teams. This episode explains what it truly takes to operate, grow, and connect in a world where everything is interconnected.We'll talk about:The 2026 ecosystem: why everything in marketing is now interconnected—and why working in silos will break your growth.Generative Engine Optimization (GEO): clarity as the new currency for AI.AI agents as shoppers: what it means when software researches, compares, and negotiates for consumers.Responsible AI: why governance, rules, and human oversight will define how brands use technology.Content in 2026: real storytelling, crafted value, SEO-backed captions, and the end of shallow posting.The rise of micro-experts: why niche credibility beats mass follower counts.Privacy & first-party data: what owning your customer information really means.Subscribe to Lara's newsletter.Also, follow our host Lara Schmoisman on social media:Instagram: @laraschmoismanFacebook: @LaraSchmoismanSupport the show

Today's episode of the Punk CX podcast features a discussion I recently had with Elizabeth Maxson, CMO at Contentful, a digital experience platform trusted by more than 4,200 companies around the world. Elizabeth joins me today to talk about a research report they recently published called When Machines Make Marketers More Human, whether marketers are moving beyond experimentation with AI tools, what sort of pain points/challenges they are facing, the possibility that all of these new tools are creating their own complexity problem and what sort of differences in behaviour and performance they are observing between marketers in EMEA and the US. This interview follows on from my recent interview – Why you need the I4JM in your life – Interview with Mark Smith and Ray Gerber – and is number 564 in the series of interviews with authors and business leaders who are doing great things, providing valuable insights, helping businesses innovate and delivering great service and experience to both their customers and their employees.

In an era where emotion drives 50% of airline choice and experience trumps products, Cathay Pacific's Edward Bell explains to WARC's Jenny Chan why AI's rise means premium brands must become more human, not less, based on insights from WARC's Marketer's Toolkit. This podcast is sponsored by Criteo. For more information, check out criteo.com/warc

Brian Kinsey has spent over 50 years guiding people toward a deeper connection with God. As a pastor, life coach, and author, he brings clarity and structure to spiritual growth through daily devotion. In his book Mercy Moments: 40 Days to Rekindle Your Passion for God, he introduces a simple daily plan called the “Rule of Five,” built around reading, praying, writing, speaking, and acting on God's Word. He shows how small, consistent steps transform lives by helping believers experience God's mercy and discover their purpose.In this episode of Marketer of the Day, Brian shares how daily discipline leads to lasting transformation. He explains why 40 days is the ideal time to build a spiritual habit and how mercy, not perfection, sustains faith. Drawing from his decades in ministry and mentorship, Brian encourages listeners to move beyond inspiration into practical action—helping others, showing mercy, and focusing on the future rather than the past. Quotes: “You are one prophetic word away from your breakthrough and deliverance.” “If you'll meet God every day, He will show you how to live the life you were meant to live.” “Passion fades when life hits hard, but mercy rekindles the fire.” “Your identity is not your past. Your identity is your future.” Resources: Visit Brian Kinsey's Website Get "Mercy Moments: 40 Days to Rekindle Your Passion for God" on Amazon Connect with Brian Kinsey on Facebook Connect with Brian Kinsey on LinkedIn

Want more replies, but all you hear are crickets? Daniel and Jay unpack one of the most slept-on tactics in email and social right now: getting your audience to reply to your campaigns. It's simple, it's human, and it's about to blow up as AI makes responding at scale easier than ever. They explain why reply-based engagement is becoming a cheat code for deliverability, how “just reply with a word” outperforms any form fill, and why adding Easter eggs or lightweight personal questions can instantly tell you who's actually reading your emails. They break down: > The reply-rate signal that keeps you out of spam and in the inbox > The Easter-egg trick that proves people read to the middle of your emails > Why “reply with GUIDE” beats every landing page for conversions If you're a Marketer looking for an easy win to boost engagement, deliverability, and conversions before 2026, this one's for you.

What happens when you treat vinyl not just as music, but as an asset class? In this episode of Numbers and Narratives, we sit down with Cory Huff, a self-described technology nerd and marketing enthusiast who helped build recommendation engines at Discogs, the world's largest music marketplace. We dig into how hardcore vinyl collectors think, why “collection value” matters more than taste, and what that means for building smarter recommendation systems in a world of rare pressings, promos, and blood-infused records.From there, we zoom out into Cory's career as a T-shaped marketer across B2B and B2C, from music and fine art to his current role as Director of Marketing at Andrews Cooper, a B2B engineering services firm building everything from automated eyelash machines to a phone-battery-powered defibrillator. We also talk about the “bike shed problem” in marketing, the danger of overstuffed job descriptions, why so many marketers are scared to ship bold ideas, and how to build data-driven, AI-powered workflows without losing the human judgment that makes campaigns actually resonate. If you care about marketing ops, recommendation engines, AI, and building a truly cross-functional career, this one's for you.https://www.linkedin.com/in/coryhuff/

Local advertising is one of the most effective methods for brands of all sizes to reach the audiences that matter most, and platforms like Locality's LocalX are becoming industry leaders by enabling advertisers to plan, buy and measure local broadcast and streaming in one intelligent workflow. LocalX was purpose-built for local advertising, and by using real-time insights and unified data, the platform empowers agencies and partners to maximize impact with confidence." At the end of the day, the reason we're targeting local is to drive a better outcome for our brand in a local community or local space," said Zach Mullins, chief strategy officer at Locality, on a special edition of Ad Age's Marketer's Brief podcast. "By creating unification at scale, we can do that much more effectively in local markets." Tune in to hear more about how LocalX works to combat the increasing complexity and fragmentation within local markets, advance the local ad-buying ecosystem, and the future the company sees for the local media market.

Mandeep Lotta is a Kenyan-born poet and author who overcame physical impairment and blindness to share a message of compassion and human connection through his poetry collections Magic mines: The Treasure of Love. His work explores how love is often misunderstood and commodified, reminding readers to slow down, understand one another, and let love grow naturally. Through his personal story of resilience, he shows how disability does not define one's capacity to inspire and create meaning.In this episode of Marketer of the Day, Mandeep discusses how life experiences, pain, and perseverance shape his poetry and worldview. He shares insights on the misconceptions people have about relationships, the importance of openness and communication, and how ambition fuels purpose even through hardship. His journey encourages listeners to embrace their vulnerabilities, own their stories, and find fulfillment through empathy and creativity. Quotes: “Love grows when you give it time and space to breathe.” “I own my blindness. It's not a weakness; it's my identity.” “Life is the vehicle. Ambition is the fuel.” “When you open up, you give others permission to do the same.” Resources: Get "Magic Mines: The Treasure of Love" on Amazon

"Send me a text"Most supplement brands are stuck fighting the same tired battles in crowded single-benefit categories. Meanwhile, a small group of marketers are doing something different—and it's working.In this episode, we explore cross-category positioning: the strategy of addressing multiple connected health benefits instead of just one isolated outcome. But this isn't about making vague "kitchen sink" claims. It's about understanding how the body actually works as an interconnected system.You'll discover:Why supplements are uniquely positioned for cross-category marketing (unlike any other product type)The four buying forces framework and how cross-category positioning amplifies all of them simultaneouslyHow to identify YOUR cross-category opportunity using the core emotion mapping methodReal examples from today's market: gut-brain-skin axis, menopause multi-benefits, sports recovery systems, and moreWhy cross-category positioning attracts better customers with higher lifetime value and lower refund ratesThe stage 5 marketplace sophistication strategy that's replacing outdated single-benefit marketingHow to build unique mechanisms that explain connections between benefits (with specific formulas you can adapt)Whether you're marketing probiotics, collagen, omega-3s, women's health products, or sports nutrition, this framework will help you stand out in a saturated market.This episode is for supplement brand owners, marketers, and product developers who want to evolve beyond single-benefit positioning and speak to how their prospects actually think about health.If you're interested in working with me and my team to improve your supplement business. You can learn more at my website https://creativethirst.com Click here to grab your copy of the Health Supplement Ad Swipe Guide. Discover what really works in funnel marketing Need help increasing sales on your own? Click here Stuck at $1 - $5M in revenue? Click Here Case Study on how Creative Thirst added over $200,000 for one supplement brand

Susan Bernauer, author of Gardener's Journal: Journey into the World of Gardening, shares how anyone can begin growing plants, whether on a small balcony or in a large backyard. She explains that gardening is less about expertise and more about curiosity, patience, and observation. Her book offers practical guidance for beginners, covering seed starting, soil care, composting, and how to record plant notes to remember what works year after year. She emphasizes that gardening can be both educational and therapeutic, helping people reconnect with nature and relieve stress.In this episode of Marketer of the Day, Susan talks about how gardening evolved from a childhood pastime into a lifelong passion focused on shade gardens and succulents. She explains how to choose plants that fit your space and lifestyle, avoid common mistakes, and turn your gardening into a creative project instead of a chore. Her spiral-bound version of the Gardener's Journal even allows you to cut out pages and create a custom notebook to track your plants, making it a hands-on guide for personal growth through gardening. Quotes: “If you're caring for a plant, you're already a gardener. It's about learning and trying, not perfection.” “Gardening is a journey. Even advanced gardeners don't know everything. You learn through trial and error.” “When life gets stressful, working in the garden helps you relax and reconnect with yourself.” “Write down what works for you. Next year, you'll be ahead instead of starting over.” Resources: Connect with Susan Bernauer on Facebook Get "Gardener's Journal: Journey into the World of Gardening" Amazon

In this special Thanksgiving edition of This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert dive into the future of AI and what it really means for marketers, creators, and anyone trying to build an audience in the next few years. The boys explore how long traditional marketing roles will remain intact and why we may be much closer to a tipping point than most people want to believe. The Window Is Closing Joe and Robert revisit a theme they've both been writing about lately: the shrinking window of time before AI reshapes content, distribution, and discoverability. They break down what creators and marketers can still do right now to secure their position before the landscape shifts for good. Their take: you have a few years. Maybe less. And waiting is not a strategy. The Real Job of the Future In a world where AI generates nearly everything instantly, Joe and Robert ask the big question: what will the actual marketing job look like five or ten years from now? The answer isn't another technical role. It isn't prompt engineering. It isn't "AI operations." The position of the future is rooted in skills AI can't replicate: Being known personally by real people Building in-person trust Hosting gatherings, leading communities, and showing up in the real world Connecting human beings to human beings If AI floods the world with infinite content, the new scarcity becomes physical presence. What Creators Must Do Next The boys outline the shift every marketer and content entrepreneur must make: from chasing reach to cultivating real connections. From relying on platforms to building owned audiences. From algorithmic exposure to human relationships that cannot be automated. This special episode is a wake-up call and a roadmap rolled into one. Why This Matters Right Now Thanksgiving is a time for reflection, and the episode closes with Joe and Robert reminding listeners that the next few years are arguably the most important years in the history of marketing. AI will change everything. But it won't replace the marketers who understand what actually makes people move, trust, and gather. Subscribe and Follow: Follow Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose on LinkedIn for insights, hot takes, and weekly updates from the world of content and marketing. This week's sponsor: Did you know that most businesses only use 20% of their data? That's like reading a book with most of the pages torn out. Point is, you miss a lot. Unless you use HubSpot. Their customer platform gives you access to the data you need to grow your business. The insights trapped in emails, call logs, and transcripts.  All that unstructured data that makes all the difference. Because when you know more, you grow more. Visit https://www.hubspot.com/ to hear how HubSpot can help you grow better. ------- Get all the show notes: https://www.thisoldmarketing.com/ Get Joe's new book, Burn the Playbook, at http://www.joepulizzi.com/books/burn-the-playbook/ Subscribe to Joe's Newsletter at https://www.joepulizzi.com/signup/. Get Robert Rose's new book, Valuable Friction, at https://robertrose.net/valuable-friction/  Subscribe to Robert's Newsletter at https://seventhbearlens.substack.com/ ------- This Old Marketing is part of the HubSpot Podcast Network: https://www.hubspot.com/podcastnetwork

Eduardo Advincula, author of King Jesus Christ, Nursing Assistant: My Life Story as a Caregiver, shares the profound journey of his 31-year career as a certified nursing assistant, highlighting faith, resilience, and compassion. Surviving the COVID-19 frontline and a major heart attack, he reflects on how these experiences deepened his spirituality, strengthened his empathy, and solidified his commitment to caregiving. Eduardo emphasizes that caregiving is not just a job but a ministry, where kindness, empathy, and gratitude transform lives, both for patients and caregivers. In this episode of Marketer of the Day, Eduardo discusses the lessons he's learned from patient care, his reflections on the challenges of frontline work during the pandemic, and the importance of prayer, journaling, and mindfulness. He shares how feedback from readers and viewers inspired him to continue writing, acting, and advocating for caregivers. Eduardo encourages younger caregivers to embrace empathy, love, and dedication, reminding listeners that their work is both meaningful and sacred in the eyes of God. Quotes: "Caregiving is never easy, but with God's help, I strive to give my best to every patient, regardless of who they are or where they come from." "Empathy is the most powerful tool a caregiver can have; it allows us to understand and connect with those we serve." "Surviving COVID and a major heart attack reminded me that life is precious, and my calling to care for others is far from over." "Caregiving is not just a profession; it is a ministry where compassion, kindness, and commitment define the work we do." Resources: Connect with Eduardo Advincula on Facebook Get "King Jesus Christ's Nursing Assistant: My Life's Story as a Caregiver" on Amazon

Welcome to Nerd Alert, a series of special episodes bridging the gap between marketing academia and practitioners. We're breaking down highly involved, complex research into plain language and takeaways any marketer can use.In this episode, Elena and Rob explore how skippable and non-skippable ads affect brand recall, salience, and conversions. They discover that the choice between ad types matters less than how engaging your creative is, and that the skip button creates surprising attention effects.Topics covered:   [01:00] "Make Ads Skippable or Not: The Impact of Ad Type on Brand Recall, Salience and Conversion Rate"[03:00] Eye tracking reveals the skip button effect[04:00] Which format drives better brand recall?[05:00] Non-skippable ads win on long-term salience[06:00] The gravitational force of the skip button[07:00] Front-load emotion to stop the scroll  To learn more, visit marketingarchitects.com/podcast or subscribe to our newsletter at marketingarchitects.com/newsletter.  Resources: Bauerová, R., & Kopřivová, V. (2025). The impact of ad type on brand recall, salience, and conversion rate. Silesian University in Opava.   Get more research-backed marketing strategies by subscribing to The Marketing Architects on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts. 

SummaryIn this conversation, Chris Carr, a digital marketing expert and founder of Farotech, discusses the evolution of marketing with a focus on AI and programmatic advertising. He shares insights on how AI is reshaping the marketing landscape, the importance of personalized targeting, and the relevance of email marketing. The discussion also touches on the implications of the metaverse for advertising and the necessity of adapting to new technologies. Chris emphasizes the importance of understanding one's audience and the need for businesses to retain customers rather than just seeking new traffic.TakeawaysChris Carr has been in digital marketing for over 22 years.AI is becoming integral to modern marketing strategies.Programmatic advertising offers hyper-personalized targeting capabilities.Email marketing remains a crucial tool for businesses.The metaverse presents new opportunities and challenges for advertising.Understanding customer behavior is key to effective marketing.Businesses must focus on retaining customers, not just acquiring them.The speed of technological advancement is unprecedented.Marketers need to adapt to changes in consumer behavior due to AI.Owning your audience is essential for long-term success.Chapters00:00 Introduction to the Podcast and Guests00:13 Chris Carr's Background and Digital Marketing Agency01:48 The Future of Marketing with AI12:10 Understanding Programmatic Advertising16:18 The Value of Data in Marketing17:36 Building and Maintaining an Email List19:35 The Role of Email Marketing in a Digital Age22:51 AI's Impact on Marketing and Communication25:25 The Future of AI and Its Rapid Evolution29:02 Navigating the Challenges of AI in the Workforce32:33 The Metaverse: Opportunities and Ethical Concerns45:32 The Education System and Its Adaptation to Technology50:20 Self-Education in the Digital Age52:51 The Limitations of Current Technology54:42 Marketing Strategies: Filling the Bucket57:51 Building Relationships and NetworkingCredits:Hosted by Ryan Roghaar and Michael SmithProduced by Ryan RoghaarTheme music: "Perfect Day" by OPM  The Eggs Podcast Spotify playlist:bit.ly/eggstunesThe Plugs:The Show: eggscast.com@eggshow on X and InstagramOn iTunes: itun.es/i6dX3pCOnStitcher: bit.ly/eggs_on_stitcherAlso available on Google Play Music!Mike "DJ Ontic": Shows and info: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠djontic.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@djontic on twitterRyan Roghaar:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠rogha.ar

How a Growth Mindset Drives B2B Marketing Success  In an increasingly competitive business environment inundated with digital noise, relying on “play it safe” tactics will only result in your brand drowning in a sea of sameness. The path to true differentiation, innovation, and standing out is not an easy one as it requires a significant mindset shift. For B2B marketing initiatives to succeed, you must create room for experimentation and data-driven discovery. How can B2B marketers approach this effectively and secure internal buy-in for it? That's why we're talking toVincent Weberink (Founder, Pzaz.io),who shares expert insights and proven strategies on how a growth mindset drives B2B marketing success. In this episode, Vincent talked about why design experiments are crucial in B2B marketing and highlighted the need for structured, data-driven growth experimentation. He shared his proven methodology consisting of ideation, ranking, and rapid prototyping designed to quickly and effectively validate concepts. Vincent also shared some common B2B marketing pitfalls that teams should avoid and emphasized the value of iterative testing and learning. He broke down how teams can build an entrepreneurial mindset and get internal buy-in for experimentation-driven B2B marketing. https://youtu.be/SlQa58iKf3k Topics discussed in episode: [2:09] The importance of running structured experiments in B2B marketing [5:21] Common challenges marketing teams face when designing and executing experiments [13:53] Key pitfalls marketing teams should avoid and some practical solutions [20:36] How to align internal teams and consistently generate strong experimental ideas [31:31] Actionable steps B2B marketers can take to run effective experiments: Understand and acknowledge that what you know is probably wrong Use ideation and designing experiments Trust your team Be creative in applying growth hacks Get external help if stuck Companies and links mentioned: Vincent Weberink on LinkedIn Pzaz.io Cisco Airbnb ChatGPT 13 Failures Later What The Hack?! Transcript Christian Klepp  00:00 In a B2B landscape that has become increasingly competitive and inundated with digital noise, using play it safe tactics will result in your brand drowning in a sea of sameness. That said, the path to differentiation, innovation and standing out is not an easy one, as it requires a change in mindset. You need to have room for experiments to truly create something that is relevant to customers. So how can B2B marketers do this, and how can they get internal buy in for it? Welcome to this episode of the B2B Marketers in a Mission podcast, and I’m your host, Christian Klepp. Today, I’ll be talking to Vincent Weberink, who will be answering this question. He’s the founder of pzaz.io who specializes in developing business growth through creative, structured data driven growth experimentation. Tune in to find out more about what this B2B marketers mission is. Christian Klepp  00:51 Vincent Weberink, welcome to the show.  Vincent Weberink  00:54 Hello Christian. Thank you very much. Pleasure to be here.  Christian Klepp  00:59 Absolutely I’ve been really looking forward to this conversation. I think we’re going to have a great time. We’re going to have a great discussion also about topics, and a main topic in particular that I think is going to be so relevant to B2B marketers and their teams in general. So you know, without further ado, let’s not keep the audience in suspense for too long. Let’s just jump straight into it. All right. So Vincent, you’re on a mission to drive business growth through creative, structured and data driven growth experimentation. So for this conversation, let’s focus on the following topic, which is how B2B marketers can create a mindset and design experiments to understand what customers want. That kind of sounds like it’s very, I’m going to say pedestrian, but it’s incredible, and I’m sure you’ll have plenty of case studies to show that there’s a lot of people out there that don’t follow this process, and then they get into trouble. So I’m going to kick off this conversation with two questions, and I’m happy to repeat them all right? So the first question is, why do you think that design experiments are important for marketing teams? And based on that, where do you see a lot of marketing teams struggle? Vincent Weberink  02:09 I think they’re very important because as human beings, we’re emotional when we make decisions. Problems is that, therefore when we try to drive growth. We have this idea about something, and then we tend to completely jump into it, build everything. Spend a lot of time and money and resources on building that thing that we believe is going to be very, very successful, and that takes a lot of time. And the reality is that most of the time you’re actually wrong, even though you think that you know your customer, even though you think that you know this is the best trick or marketing tactic that you’re developing. And what this experimentation model does, it sort of forces you to go through a very structured, almost scientific process, because there are some steps in there that help you to remove that emotion from your decision making.  Vincent Weberink  03:12 And an example of how decision making often is influenced is when you’re in a small team or a large team, you’re sitting around the table and you’re trying to brainstorm, say, oh, you know, we have this, this challenge. We’re launching a new product, or we’re changing something, and we need to communicate it, driving sales up. And then the people who are best sort of equipped with sales capabilities are the ones that you know will dominate the conversation, and what we tend to do is then listen to them, whereas there are other people around the table that you know, they might be more introverted, might say less, that also have really, really great ideas. So what happens is that you collect all these thoughts and ideas, and then the person that’s very good at selling is selling their idea to you, and you end up taking that one. But it has nothing to do with reality, whereas in the methodology that I’m sort of promoting, what you actually do is you try to capture as many ideas as possible, as quickly as possible, and then, in almost a democracy, you rank and rate them according to several criteria, and that will help you to make some of those ideas float. And the ones that pop up are the ones you should actually focus on, because now, within that democratic decision making process, you’ve tried to optimize the chances that one of those ideas will actually lead to much quicker success than any of the others. And you can also use it in the reverse, the ideas that completely sink because no one voted for them, maybe only just the person that was selling. You know that they go away. You just throw them away and forget. About them, because clearly they didn’t get enough support. And the other question you were asking, sorry focused on the first question.  Christian Klepp  05:08 No problem, absolutely, absolutely no. Well, that was a great way to, like, set up the conversation. And I guess it segues to the question, where do you see, based on what you said, where do you see a lot of marketing teams struggling? Vincent Weberink  05:21 Well, I see them often struggling is that they tend to spend money and time on just the ordinary things that everyone sort of accustomed to, because depending on the type of company you work in, that’s the safe choice, and that ultimately doesn’t really help you grow. It’s typically the stuff that you would never expect to work. And I’ll give you a great example of this in a moment that might give you this amazing growth overnight or amazing success. It doesn’t necessarily have to be growth. It can be specific campaign where you just need people to sign up, because you’re trying to obtain information from them and to get those people to sign up. It could be a problem. You’re designing your funnel, and then something isn’t really working.  Vincent Weberink  06:15 So in my experience, what happens is that people will say, Okay, let’s build a landing page. Let’s build a website, and let’s make it beautiful. Let’s make it perfect. But while you’re in this early stage, you have no clue if it’s going to work or not. You’re now wasting all of those resources where it’s so much better to very, very quickly, design experiments, run them as quickly as possible, see where something is happening, and then sort of iterate upon that specific experiment that you were running. And then slowly, over time, you get to a point where that experiment can be fleshed out, can be refined. You might do some A/B testing, and especially in the world we’re moving into with the rise of AI speed is everything past early days of when I was starting to do, you know, growth marketing or growth hacking, depending on what you like to call it. Let’s say 15 years ago, you could simply run an experiment, and that experiment could would last for certain periods of time. You could get away with some of the experiments, even running them for months. But with the rise of AI, what we’re seeing is that experiments only work for very, very short periods of time. And what I see with a lot of the marketing teams is that, you know, they’re not accustomed to driving fast and quickly running and failing fast, so that you can very quickly learn to see what ultimately what ultimately works.  Vincent Weberink  07:55 So a great example of something that I experienced it when I was running one of my startups, which was a streaming service, and I believed I got everything right. I was just convinced that there was nothing wrong with the product, but I wasn’t getting any traction, nothing, literally, no one was signing up, and I just couldn’t understand. So what I started to do is just run one experiment after another. First obviously, I went out and spoke to people, because that’s the first thing you should do most of the time, especially when you’re in startup mode, either a startup or you work for corporate, maybe running a division or launching a new product, you have no data. But if you read all of the books out there, they all tell you, Oh, let’s look at the data. Well, guess what? You don’t have any data. So what you need to do is you need to go and speak to people and find the soft data to really understand, you know, what’s going on. How do I create a product that people will be willing to buy, and I did that, and then it sort of confirmed that there was nothing wrong with the product. And then months into that process, I still wasn’t getting any traction, and the startup was sort of moving to a point where it started to fail, because, you know, you’re running out of money, you’re running out of time. So I kept running experiments, believing that the methodology that I use simply works. You just need to keep running, running, running. And then one day, I essentially was close to giving up, and I decided to take on another project because I had run out of money. But on the side, I kept running experiments, and what I did is I put a play button on the homepage, allowing people to watch television for five minutes without signing up. And that simple trick got me 11,000 euros overnight. It took me 11 months. To uncover that, I had now proven that indeed, the product wasn’t wrong. The product was always right, but the way we were marketing was wrong, and it is always one of the two. It’s either there’s no product market fit or you’re selling it in the wrong way. Your marketing is wrong. And in a way that was very frustrating, because this very simple thing, almost as simple as a paperclip now gave me all the growth in one way. It was too late for me, because I had to go into that other project. The revenue wasn’t enough to sustain the business, but it did allow me to sort of keep the business afloat. And I was working this other project, and then I returned, after like a half a year or so, back full time onto the startup once I was generating enough recurring, recurring revenue there, and yeah, that’s sort of, you know, what I strongly believe in. You just need to keep running those experiments.  Vincent Weberink  10:53 Of course. The third option is that your timing is completely off, which is another thing that I’ve experienced several times. I’ve run many startups, most of them failed over time. I’m proud to say that I never had to raise money for any of those startups. I was sort of in the last 30 years of my career. Thank you. I always managed to, you know, make enough money to sort of sustain, but many of them never became the big winner. They were just doing enough, and then at some point, there was an end of life, because either the market was fooled or or just turned out that there was no point in continuing to run that company. An example is VPN product that I did in 2003 that’s when the first idea started. VPN was a business to business product, and we decided to consumerize VPN because our only competitor at the time was called hide my ass, and the technology was very, very complicated. And after sort of what happens after 911 where a lot of governments started to invade everyone’s privacy, we decided that, you know, it is also important for individuals to retain a level of privacy, you know, within the boundaries of the law, obviously. So we spent a lot of time in developing that technology, creating a product that was very, very easy to use and that was secure and safe. And we were very, very successful in the first year and a half. We even managed to get in Google on the second place, right after Cisco, which is the inventor of VPN, but by the time we had about 40,000 customers, that was it. That was just, we just couldn’t grow anymore. And I then decided to abandon that project. Over time, someone else continued it for several more years, and of course, now VPN mass market product, but over 20 years later, and it’s the most common product out there, and we were just too early. So even though it was an exciting, exciting adventure, it made us money. It was a profitable business. Ultimately, at the time, there was no point in sort of continuing, trying to sort of push it, push it further. Christian Klepp  13:18 Yeah, no, absolutely, absolutely great points. And you know, thank you for sharing those, those experiences and the you know, those past successes and challenges, failures and so forth. I think it’s, I think it’s an important part of the overall process, right? I’m going to move us on. And you’ve mentioned some of these already, but like, what are some of these on the topic of design experimentation and growth growth marketing. What are some of these key pitfalls that marketing teams need to avoid, and what should they be doing instead? Vincent Weberink  13:53 The key pitfalls they need to avoid is to believe that they’re always right. I mean, that is the first thing is, in essence, that you should learn that most of the time you will be wrong, and that success lies in the ability to admit that and to move forward very, very quickly by running a lot of those experiments, and by designing those experiments very quickly and having the ability to turn them into minimum viable products. And the pitfalls that most people fall into is that they think you’ll just read a book, and then you can just do it. It’s simple, right? Oh, it’s just like marketing. It’s the same way how I learn how to do advertising, I can simply learn how to do, you know, growth marketing. But the reality is, it’s then it is a thing or a trick so that understanding and the realization that you just need to start thinking differently, start thinking out of the box, be creative, because a lot of those hacks come from places that you simply will not expect.  Vincent Weberink  15:15 I guess Airbnb is a typical example. You know, as far as I remember the story correctly. Two guys set up Airbnb. It was literally an air bed in someone’s house. They were running the business. They had about 10,000 you know, customers, and they could have said, Oh, you know, we’re doing great. Our marketing is doing well. We’re making money. But ultimately, they were not satisfied, so they decided to continue, and then what happens is, this is before the big thing that most people have heard of, which is correct, Greg’s list. That’s when they really exploded. But before that, something else happened, and that was when one of the founders said, Well, how do we expand our capacity, and how do we get more people interested in our products? And it was around the organization of trade shows when there was always a shortage of capacity in hotels, and they decided to try that out. And if I remember correctly, they grew sort of from 10,000 people to 200,000 people in just a couple of months. And that was actually their real growth hack, the real spurt, whereas reckless took them to millions. And that’s the thing that everyone knows. But it was that mindset, that understanding of not being satisfied with what you’re doing, and the ability to pivot, because it was a complete pivot. It was no longer just an air bet. Now you were renting out a bed in someone’s house, and that was sort of the foundation what then became Airbnb. And I think most marketing teams have never been exposed to that way of thinking. You know, they’ve been taught the simple stuff on, how do you do advertising, how do you look at data, you know, how do I build a website? How do I organize a trade show, etc. But it’s these things where you take an idea, where you’re almost stepping into the entrepreneur’s shoes by looking at, how can I make the business grow through extraordinary ways of marketing? Christian Klepp  17:30 Absolutely, absolutely. You know what? That’s a phrase that I also heard at a business meeting on Friday where I was talking to the branch manager of a bank. And one of the things that she said, why, how she helped the branch to grow, is because she came out of a business. She was a family business, and she was running her own business, so she came with an entrepreneur’s mindset. And I do think that there is that is really, like, significant, especially if you’re talking about and I don’t want to, like, use these, like, overused buzzwords, let’s say, but like, you know, if you’re entering this world of, like, the scrappy entrepreneurs or even the scrappy marketing teams, right, you can’t necessarily go in there with the corporate mindset. No offense to anybody that’s in corporate but if you’re stretched for, as you can rightfully attest to Vincent, if you’re stretched for time, bandwidth, resources and budget, you’ve got to, you’ve got to think more like a guerrilla fighter versus a conventional army, right? Vincent Weberink  18:38 You need to test as early as possible whether or not the ideas or your hypothesis, hypothesis that you have are actually true, and especially when you’re an entrepreneur or in a product team. And I have an example for there was a famous UK bank that had an idea where they wanted to test if friends and family would be willing to become guarantors for young people that would want to buy a house in London. And you know, banks are very, very big, slow organizations, and typically, if not alone, figuring out how this legally works will cost them millions right to develop the whole full product. So how do you do something? How do you create this experiment where you can prove whether or not there’s any viability in even thinking of offering such a product? And what they came up with is essentially to build a landing page where they would simply ask people to sign up for the service. They ran a 500 pound budget against it, so the total cost of the whole experiment was maybe 1500 pounds, and now they’ve managed to validate it, which saved them literally hundreds of 1000s of pounds and the risk that that product might have failed. And I think that is exactly the entrepreneurial mindset that a market. Marketer needs to develop and understand, Okay, I’m not just responsible for selling this product, but I’m also responsible for understanding, you know, who do I sell it to? How do I sell it? What should the product look like? How can the product evolve so that there’s a good product market fit? Christian Klepp  20:17 Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. You brought some of these up already, but let’s dig into it deeper and unpack it. I should say, like, so based on your experience, like, how do you how can B2B marketers get traction as early as possible? So how can they build experiments? What are those key steps that they need to take? Vincent Weberink  20:36 The first thing this is, so I sort of use a methodology and which is very, very structured. And I use that because if I don’t, I get lost in ideas. Because it is very easy to come up with 100 ideas. A lot of people you know, can do that. So what we do is I sit down, either with a team, or I might take a certain periods of time, where all I do is just collect as possible. Then for every idea, I write down, what is the idea? What do I believe this idea will give me? So what is the outcome? How do I prove, potentially, as a hypothesis, that what I believe is true? And then I sort of make those notes, then I store them in cards. And you can do that in any kind of project management tool, whether it’s notion or cell or bunch. Just create those cards.  Vincent Weberink  21:31 Then what I do is I rank and rank them so, and I ask the team to do that, or the people I work with, for example, if I was doing consultancy for clients, we would have a specific, specific group of the clients do doing the same thing, and then all we would do is see, Okay, which of those ideas are floating. And we would take the top 10, again, it was very easy to then generate, like, 100 different ideas, and you take the top 10, and then for each of those, you’re now going to discuss them and essentially say, Okay, if I need to turn this idea into minimal but viable products, allowing me to prove that I am right or wrong, what is the least amount of work you can then do? And you know, so in my book, I publish a whole list of MVPs (Minimum Viable Product), but actually, with ChatGPT, you could probably just type, give me a list of all the different type of MVPs and explain how they work. So for example, you have a Wizard of Oz. A Wizard of Oz is, is an MVP, where everything happens behind the scene. The product really doesn’t exist, but the customer thinks it exists. And you do everything manually. That’s just an example.  Vincent Weberink  22:51 So what you then do is you then going to think about, okay, who needs to do what? And then you run a short sprint. You design the sprint. Say, Okay, next Monday, with the three of us, we’re just going to spend one day on building that thing. And I, most of the time use distribution hacking, or in other words, advertising, to drive some traffic to whatever that experiment is to then prove of my whether or not my hypothesis is correct. And from there onwards, you then, of course, have some analytic tool, or, depending on how you how, you then prove it, and then you start to iterate and but I promise you, most of those experiments will fail, which is great, but if you run 10 very quickly, maybe in the course of two weeks, if you have two or three where you see the needle moving a little bit, now you have something to take the next step. And a classical mistake that I’ve seen is that people always tend to make it too complicated. So what they do is, rather than designing an experiment that gets you one answer, they try to get as many answers as possible. And that doesn’t work, because you know, if you have any exposure to data, if you have multiple data points, then it’s now up to your interpretation, and then you’re selling it to yourself, because you want the hypothesis to be true. So it’s very difficult to then again, step back and say, Ah, you know, can I really be honest with myself? So test one thing at a time. Once you’ve proven that one of those things work, you just design the next one and the next one and next one, and then within this very short periods of time, you’ll get to a point where, where it starts to work or fail. You could prove that the product simply is not viable. Which, which I’ve had many times, and then even pivoted afterwards, given up on many products, because simply, even though I believed, you know, was going to be amazing, yeah, it turns out to be wrong. So, yeah. Christian Klepp  25:00 Absolutely, absolutely. Like, it’s really a fine, a fine balance between speed, but also like, like, the quick experimentation, as you say, and you know, as you were, as you were discussing your process, it actually just made me think of another question, which I’m sure you faced countless times, and you brought it up in the beginning too. How do you get this internal alignment? You talked about, like a team getting together in the room, and I’ve been in one of those teams right, where there were a couple, like, we used to call them the stars of the show, because, you know, when they get up on stage, they want the spotlight to be only on them. Forget about what everybody else says. My idea, my baby is the most beautiful baby in the world. And how dare you insult my baby, right?  Vincent Weberink  25:48 Exactly.  Christian Klepp  25:49 But, but the reality, as you rightfully pointed out, which I’ve also seen firsthand, the reality, is that the one that shouts the loudest doesn’t necessarily have the best idea, right? It’s sometimes these people. It’s sometimes these people that don’t say anything, that don’t contribute to the conversation, they actually have the solution that perhaps the market is looking for. But unfortunately, their voice is drowned out by these so called, I’m just gonna call them the Divas in the room, right? So back to the question, how do you get that alignment? How do you get those ideas out of everybody in a way that it’s not just fair, but it’s also like more, more in line with what the market is looking for. Let’s put it that way. Vincent Weberink  26:43 The people around the table that typically don’t speak up, you know, some of them are the deep thinkers. They really think about something, and they have really great ideas, but they’ll then struggle to properly defend their idea and to explain it, whereas the other person on the table, who’s good at selling themselves, you know might they’ll do everything to defend their idea, and therefore they will attack the other ideas. And what you sort of see is by implementing this rank and rate model by definition, you’re externalizing the decision making, so you’re agreeing with everyone on the around the table, that everyone writes down their idea on the paper, on a piece of paper, and you define what that structure should then look like, which means is no one has to defend it. They just write it on paper. You then gather those pieces of paper and you add them to the tool. Then you ask everyone to rank and raise which, by the way, could be done anonymous, which I’ve done many times. And that way you just look at the one that floats, and you just, if the team look, we don’t know who’s right, we can’t afford for this venture to fail, and therefore, we’re just going to focus on the ideas that have the greatest potential of propensity. And that’s how I do it, and it’s always worked well for me. There’s, of course, when I would introduce this to new startup teams, very often it’s the entrepreneur that is the biggest problem. You know that they’re the hardest to convince, because they typically have the strongest opinion of all.  Christian Klepp  28:34 So you’re talking about the founder, right? The founder Vincent Weberink  28:36 Yeah. About the founder? Yes, yeah, exactly, yeah, yeah, because they look, you know, there might be a great marketer or great salesperson who have very strong ideas, and they might, you know, accept inputs, but it’s typically the founder that will then say, yeah, now if you know, it’s my money, so I’m going to just do it my way, and it’s wrong, because you’re now letting your emotion again, getting In the way. And this example that I gave you with the play button that was sort of happened while I was in the process of creating that methodology that I use, which is sort of based on me having read 1000 books where I really struggled that most of the books, even though they’re written for startups, if you really dive into it, they’re actually more for startup teams and corporates, very often, the way they’re described, that you just can’t apply them to normal startups, because normal startups work differently. And what I then did is I sort of took all of the models in there, and then figured out, what if you combine them, crunch them, and then create this methodology. And I was doing that for myself, because I really struggled, having done so many startups, and then I found, okay, so now I have this methodology. I just kept doing it. Kept. Believing that ultimately, it would work with the idea that sometimes you know on this path and that other people need to help you to sort of step out of your comfort zone and sometimes think from the left, from the other side, because your growth might come from a different direction, and which could even be true within your customer persona. You think you have the persona, right. But while you’re digging and running the experiments, it might be the persona next door which is the true, real customer, and you just need to uncover that by believing in that methodology. So… Christian Klepp  30:40 Absolutely, absolutely. You know, we did one of those exercises in Q2 with a client that had was very convinced of their ICP (Ideal Customer Profile). And then we went through this exercise where we did, um, we did a diagnosis on the ICP to determine, like, is this the right is this actually the right ICP you should be going after, right? So I’m 100% with you on that one. Okay, my friend, we come to the point where we’re talking about actionable tips, and it’s really just a recap of all the great recommendations you’ve given us already. So just imagine that there’s a SaaS (Software as a Service) marketing team out there, or somebody in B2B marketing that’s listening to this conversation. They’re like, wow, that’s exactly what I’m going through right now. So what are the maybe three to five things you would say they can take action on, like right now? Vincent Weberink  31:31 First of all, understanding you know, coming to the realization that whatever you know is probably wrong. Which is, which is the hardest thing to do. The second thing is you should really start working by using ideation and designing experiments, create MVPs fail as fast as you can, because that’s the way you learn as quickly as you can. And I sort of describe that in my book that I just launched, because it, you know, yes and into the same problem. Also, you know, trust your team. Trust that other people have great ideas as well. And very often, the great ideas come from the people that otherwise wouldn’t, wouldn’t say anything and be as creative as possible. Try to prime yourself by just, you know, search online, what are great growth, growth hacks or other marketing tips and tricks, and then try to figure out, how can I apply those? How can I use those as potential experiments? Because that way you can just simply move forward. But you know, if you’re stuck, get external help, because they’re like people like yourself, you know, who can really help to sort of leapfrog this, because otherwise, you’re just stuck and trying to learn, and while you’re running out of money, you have no time. Most starters will last for six months, and then they’ve run out of money, prove that you’re right before you build anything. And that is really, I think, the most important. And so the last tip I want to give, don’t just start building any product, because you will fail. It’s not for nothing that 95% of startups fails within within the first couple of years. It’s because, you know, you believe that people will flock and will love whatever you’re building. But the reality is just very, very different, and it might be the smallest thing that you get wrong, but you know that’s enough to fail, so… Christian Klepp  33:46 Prove that you’re right before you build anything. I mean, if there’s anything that the audience should be taking away from this conversation, I think it’s that sentence, right? Absolutely, that’s fantastic. Thanks again for sharing those tips, and I hope the audience is taking as many notes as I am during our conversation. Okay, two more questions before I let you go, Vincent, so here comes the bonus question. So you’re, this is the understatement of the year, but you’re a bit of a nomad, right? Like you’re originally from the Netherlands, you’ve lived in Greece, and now you’ve relocated, I think the last time we spoke, you were in Florence, and now you’ve moved somewhere else in northern Italy, right? So how has this lifestyle impacted you, personally and professionally? I mean, it’s clearly changed your view of the world, I’m sure. Vincent Weberink  34:39 Yes, so somehow I felt I was always stuck in the Netherlands as an entrepreneur. Because especially in the past, there is this thing, and I like to joke about it, where the Americans have the not invented syndrome, not invented here syndrome, the Dutch people have the invented hair syndrome, which means it’s all your Dutch. So therefore it can’t be good. And I felt I was very often, sort of, you know, locked up. And at the same time, the world is getting smaller and smaller every day. And I was lucky, being in technology, that we were able to then start moving abroad. And in all fairness, some of the moves we’ve done were actually caused because of the failures we’ve had, not that we run away or anything, but it was sort of, I was trying to do something locally. It didn’t really work. And then it was time for new challenges. And I found, always have found a lot of energy being able to now live in a completely different country, with a different language, with a different culture, and that really enriched my life. I started to look at things very, very differently, especially learning that everyone has a different view, whereas as a young person, I always had a very strong opinion, and the world had to be the way I saw it. But nothing is further from culture plays an incredibly important role on how people perceive things, how to behave, what kind of products they buy, how you should sell. Language plays an incredible, incredibly important role. So, yeah, I guess I was, I can’t say I was lucky because I created my own luck. I created my own decisions. I was lucky that my lovely wife and son have always supported me and that we’ve been on this journey through seven countries in the last 20 years. Yeah, and we’re in Italy at the moment. Indeed. Christian Klepp  36:35 Wow. Seven countries. Yeah, yeah. Amazing. Amazing. Yeah. That’s about the same number as in terms of my own experience. Like, I live in Canada now, and that’s country number seven. So there’s more, there’s more of us out there than you think, right? Like, exactly. So it’s very similar to my story. But, like, how’s your Italian? By the way. Vincent Weberink  36:57 It’s getting there. I’m studying hard at the moment, and, yeah, we sort of arrived here in January. Officially, my son is studying at university, and he’s finishing. But I guess, you know, I speak some Spanish, so Italian is slightly easier. Yeah. Christian Klepp  37:16 It’s, yeah, it is helpful. I realized, like, I also speak a certain level of Spanish, and that helped me get by even in a country like Portugal, where, Let’s appreciate it’s a complete it’s a different language, but there are some similarities. So they can understand what I’m saying, they’ll just answer in Portuguese, as long as you also understand what they’re saying, more or less. Yeah, I mean, I try to figure it out, and then they, they’ll, they’ll speak slowly, and I’m like, okay, okay, I got it. Obrigado, all right. Like, fantastic, fantastic. Vincent. Thank you so much for coming on the show and for sharing your experience and your expertise with the listeners. So please, a quick introduction to yourself and how people out there can get in touch with you. And by the way, I really love that we’re color coordinated. And for those that are listening to the audio version of this, we’re both wearing, like denim colored outfits. Vincent Weberink  38:11 Well, thank you Christian. Thank you very much for having me. It was a real pleasure. Yeah, of course. You know. My name is Vincent Weberink. My email is vincent@webberink.com and if anyone has any questions or potentially is interested in the book that I’ve just released, which is condensing 1000 books and failures and success, then of course, please, please get in touch with me. Thank you again. Christian Klepp  38:42 Fantastic, fantastic, and we’ll be sure to include a link to your book in the show notes. So once again, Vincent, thank you so much for your time. Take care. Stay safe and talk to you soon. Vincent Weberink  38:53 Looking forward, Christian, thank you very much. Take care.  Christian Klepp  38:56 Thank you. Bye for now. 

In our latest episode, Marc and Vassilis discuss the evolving landscape of advertising and marketing, focusing on the impact of AI technologies. They explore how AI can outperform human copywriters in ad creation, the implications of Amazon's layoffs due to AI automation, and the changing nature of marketing jobs. The conversation also delves into the ethical concerns surrounding hyper-personalization in advertising, Google's new JourneyAware bidding strategy, and the importance of brand priming in consumer decision-making. The episode concludes with a creative Christmas campaign that exemplifies the blending of advertising and entertainment.Key Takeaways:AI can outperform human copywriters in ad creation.Amazon's layoffs signal a shift towards AI automation.Marketing jobs are evolving due to AI advancements.Hyper-personalization in advertising raises ethical concerns.Google's JourneyAware bidding focuses on user context.84% of purchases are decided before shopping begins.Word of mouth is a powerful influencer in marketing.Creative campaigns can effectively engage consumers.AI is reshaping the advertising landscape.Marketers must adapt strategies to leverage AI technologies.Chapters:00:00 - Introduction and Personal Updates02:45 - AI in Advertising: A Game Changer05:29 - The Impact of AI on Job Markets08:26 - The Future of Advertising: Automation and AI11:27 - Hyper-Personalization in Digital Marketing14:05 - Google's Journey-Aware Bidding: A New Era17:03 - Conclusion and Future Implications21:15 - The Complexity of Incremental Outcomes23:15 - Marketing Moments: Understanding Consumer Decisions28:14 - Influence and Receptivity in Marketing32:21 - Creative Advertising: Blurring Lines Between Entertainment and MarketingNews Links:Can genAI actually write better paid search ads than humans?https://www.linkedin.com/posts/nico-neumann-3021b32_can-genai-actually-write-better-paid-search-activity-7394635382283239424-vTRH/Amazon lays off hundreds across its ad tech, analytics, and sales teams — and says AI is the reason.https://www.marketingweek.com/amazon-layoffs-ai/ Will AI mean better adverts or 'creepy slop'? By MaryLou Costahttps://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckg4y4z169goGoogle Tests “Journey-Aware Bidding” — Search Gets a Little More… Emotional?https://searchengineland.com/google-tests-journey-aware-bidding-to-optimize-search-campaigns-464729The Marketing MomentHow Humans Decide - https://www.linkedin.com/posts/jameshurman_under-16-of-people-will-buy-your-product-activity-7394639418369880066-Biih/Ad of the WeekWaitrose serves up festive romcom starring Keira Knightley and Joe WilkinsonView ad here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWeYKBXmCRsPhil (Wilkinson) meets Keira at a Waitrose cheese counter, their shared love of food sparks a quirky romance. Classic rom-com beats: meet-cute, food montage, surprise domestic gesture (turkey pie under a tea towel) and a playful nod to the iconic cue-card scene from Love Actually (“Please say you don't have cue cards”) Directed by Molly Manners; emphasises food as the love-language centerpiece. Why it stands out:It blurs the line between advertising and entertainment, leaning into narrative, character and emotion rather than straightforward product-first messaging.It leverages star power (Knightley) plus comedic contrast (Wilkinson) to create “pop” and shareability.It uses the insight that food & shared meals = emotional currency in rom-coms (and by extension, in festive retail ads) — the brief treats the supermarket not just as backdrop but as the catalyst...

This week on Brain Driven Brands, Sarah and Nate crack open 25 Core Identity Maps (CIMs) collected across nearly every category — supplements, apparel, home goods, tech, sleep, skincare — and uncover the five global consumer behaviors defining 2026. These aren't the usual "people want convenience and trust" surface takes. They're weird, psychologically sideways, deeply human patterns emerging across thousands of responses… the kind of stuff your attribution dashboard will never show you. Inside the episode, they break down: Why customers want the feeling of improvement, not the reality of change Why up to 70% of buyers choose identity alignment over product performance Why emotional safety now beats price, logic, or urgency How shoppers are making decisions through emotional math, not rational math And the wildest finding: customers are humanizing objects that reduce stress—naming them, personifying them, treating them like sidekicks Along the way, Nate confesses the uncomfortable self-truth the research exposed in his buying habits, Sarah explains why most marketing overestimates aspiration and underestimates avoidance, and both of them dig into why belonging is quietly becoming the dominant motivator in nearly every market. If you want to understand how real people actually think before they buy — not how marketers wish they thought — this episode is a masterclass in modern consumer psychology wrapped in friendly self-roasting. Perfect for founders, operators, and anyone who suspects their customers are running way deeper scripts under the surface than their spreadsheet can explain. Plus: A live breakdown of how brands should adapt their messaging sequencing to match these psychological shifts — and why one wrong emotional signal can kick you out of a buyer's world instantly.

In a climate where many organisations are nervously dialling back on their social and environmental commitments, a surprising group is emerging as the new purpose pioneers - B2B brands. In this episode of Can Marketing Save the Planet?, we sit down with Dave Vann, MD of agency, said & done, to unpack their latest revealing research, ‘The Purpose Reckoning,' which surveyed over 300 businesses. Our conversation delves into the current situation we are seeing across the business landscape where leaders feel caught between political and economic pressures to stay quiet, and their personal desire to be more outspoken and drive impact. Dave shares a whole host of key findings such as, while organisations overall are pulling back, this trend is heavily influenced by size and exposure to the US market. Larger, US-connected firms are retreating, while smaller UK-focused SMEs are largely "carrying on as before." A central insight which we dive into is that B2B leaders are notably bullish on purpose, with “87% believing it will be a key differentiator in the future”. We explore why the B2B landscape is uniquely positioned for this, citing factors like emotionally-driven procurement decisions, a lower risk of public backlash compared to B2C, and the need to build resilient, future-proof supply chains. Dave issues a powerful call to action for marketers, urging them to step up and guide their organisations with both courage and strategic savvy. "We've got to be brave and we've got to be smart. This isn't just about doing the right thing. This is good for business.” When asked about the future of business, Dave hopes, we're in a place where the baseline has risen and there's just a widespread acceptance that of course business is here for improving the lives of people and the planet that we live in." And, we couldn't ages more. Tune in as we talk to Dave about: How, not talking about purpose isn't universal. Why B2B organisations see purpose as a future differentiator and aligns with the growing humanisation of B2B marketing. Why there's a significant disconnect between corporate action and personal conviction. How many leaders wish their organisations were more vocal, even as external pressures force them to dial back. The need to look beyond compliance. Regulation may set a baseline but true progress requires a "care" mindset which focuses on genuine impact and brand building. The need to find your strategic niche, which aligns with your business, customers, and differentiates you from your competitors. For more information: said & done website: https://www.saidanddone.co.uk/ ‘The Purpose Reckoning' research: https://www.saidanddone.co.uk/purpose-reckoning-research Dave's LinkedIn profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dave-vann/ We also talk about the recent MarketingKind webinar-turned-podcast he sharfed. And so, here's a link to that: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ty-heath-thomas-kolster-dave-vann-on-b2b-marketing-purpose/id1725793542?i=1000733018569 Enjoy - and if you love the podcast, share with your friends, family and colleagues. ________________________________________________________________________ About us… We help Marketers save the planet. 

Sam Farman and Joseph Escamilla are the co-owners of Generational Wealth Partners, a real estate syndication group that helps lower the barrier to entry for individual investors. They focus on long-term, principled investing in multifamily properties, offering investors voting rights on major equity decisions. With backgrounds as college soccer teammates and experience in mortgage lending and property management, they've grown their own portfolio from single-family homes to 24 units in just a few years. Their approach balances risk with strategy, combining action with careful analysis to ensure sustainable growth. In this episode of Marketer of the Day, Sam and Joe share their journey from first deals to creating a syndication that allows passive investors to participate in real estate without the daily management. They discuss lessons learned from mistakes, the importance of trust in partnerships, and strategies like the BRRR method and 1031 exchanges. Listeners will gain insights into scaling a portfolio, understanding real estate as a long-term investment, and building generational wealth through multifamily properties. Quotes: "Don't judge each day by the harvest you reap, but by the seeds you plant.” “Those who can tolerate the most uncertainty are the ones who eventually succeed.” “Real estate is a long-term game; patience and persistence are key to success.” “If you haven't started on your dreams yet, ask yourself why, then put one foot in front of the other.” Resources: Connect with Sam Farman on LinkedIn Connect with Joseph Escamilla on LinkedIn Cash flow and forced equity through long-term multifamily real estate investments in the Northeast.

AI Model Mania – Navigating the Healthtech Marketers Landscape with Adam Turinas On this lively episode, host Carol Flagg welcomes back Adam Turinas, founder of Health Launchpad and host of The Healthtech Marketing Show. Adam shares the story behind his AI Quick Takes segment—particularly the episode Model Mania: Navigating the New AI Landscape, which likens today's race among AI leaders to the 1990s browser wars. He explains how major players like OpenAI, Google, Anthropic, and Meta are locked in a fierce market “land grab” and discusses how marketers can navigate this expanding AI ecosystem and prepare for the next wave—the emerging “AI browser war” fueled by tools like ChatGPT Atlas and Perplexity Comet. The episode concludes with Adam talking about his firm's new initiative, the HLP BrAIn, a centralized repository of expertise and insights into healthcare buyers. Learn more about this initiative at: https://healthlaunchpad.com/the-hlp-brain-and-more/ To stream our Station live 24/7 visit www.HealthcareNOWRadio.com or ask your Smart Device to “….Play Healthcare NOW Radio”. Find all of our network podcasts on your favorite podcast platforms and be sure to subscribe and like us. Learn more at www.healthcarenowradio.com/listen

Every event marketer has a moment they'd go back and redo — a decision, a mindset, a chance to think bigger.At EXHIBITORLIVE 2025, Coty Adams and Mollie Stahl hit the floor to ask one powerful question: “What advice would you give your younger event-marketing self?”The answers were raw, funny, and surprisingly universal. From learning to breathe through chaos to embracing bold ideas, every story captured what it really takes to build a career in this industry and a life that thrives beyond it.You'll hear:✅ Why thinking big-picture (not just event-by-event) turns survival mode into strategy✅ How taking risks and asking questions early can fast-track your growth✅ Why calm, connection, and community matter more than perfectionTune in for real talk from pros who've been there… because sometimes the best education happens in the aisles between booths.----------------------------------Connect With UsMatt Kleinrock: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-kleinrock-9613b22b/  Coty Adams: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cotykadams/ Mollie Stahl: https://www.linkedin.com/in/molliestahl/  Our Company: https://rockwayexhibits.com/   

Don Franceschi, award-winning public speaking coach and author of From Awful to Awesome, shares how anyone can overcome fear and deliver powerful presentations. With experience as a TEDx coach, Toastmaster, and state trainer, Don explains why speaker anxiety is normal, how to manage it, and what preparation really means. He lays out his core principles for speaking with confidence and reminds us that it's never about the speaker—it's about the audience.In this episode of Marketer of the Day, you'll learn how to manage stage fright, prepare effectively, and make every talk memorable. Don breaks down the difference between a regular business presentation and a high-stakes safety presentation where lives can depend on how well the message lands. His advice on preparation, clarity, and emotional connection helps anyone become an engaging and effective communicator. Quotes: “It's okay to be nervous. Even the best speakers in the world feel it. The goal isn't to eliminate anxiety; it's to manage it.” “It's not about you. It's about the audience. You're giving them a gift—your knowledge, your experience, your perspective.” “Uncertainty creates anxiety. The more prepared you are, the less anxious you'll be.” “Take the process seriously, but don't take yourself seriously. Have fun, but do the homework.” Resources: Visit Don Franceschi's Website Connect with Don Franceschi on LinkedIn Watch Don Franceschi on YouTube Get From Awful to Awesome on Amazon

Most agents think marketing has gotten harder, that technology, AI, and algorithms have made everything too complicated. But the truth is, it's never been easier to be a marketer and to actually get results. You can create video content without showing your face. You can automate your emails, SMS, and social posts in minutes. You can turn one idea into ten pieces of content that generate leads while you sleep. Yet most agents still struggle to grow; not because the tools are hard, but because they're doing what everyone else is doing… or worse, doing the bare minimum. In today's market, average doesn't convert. The agents winning right now aren't the ones spending the most money; they're the ones showing up consistently, leveraging automation, and using AI to amplify their expertise instead of hiding behind excuses. How can you turn one real estate deal into multiple streams of income? How do agents embrace tech?  That's what I'm unpacking on Constant Contact's Be a Marketer podcast, where I was featured as a guest.  Along with co-hosts Dave Charest, Stephanie Alonso, I break down why most agents misunderstand marketing, how to simplify your systems, and what it takes to build a business that compounds while you're off the clock.   Things You'll Learn In This Episode  The no excuse zone mindset Success doesn't come from talent or timing; it comes from eliminating excuses. How do you rewire your habits to operate like an entrepreneur, not an employee? Consistency over charisma The most profitable agents aren't the flashiest; they're the most consistent. What boring, daily habits separate six-figure producers from struggling agents? Video is the ultimate multiplier Video isn't optional; it's the only form of content that can be repurposed into text, audio, and leads. How can you use AI and automation to make video your most scalable marketing tool? Leads, loyalty, and longevity New agents often wait for brokers to hand them leads. How can CRMs, landing pages, and follow-ups turn your list into a self-sustaining income engine?   Guest Bios Stephanie Alonso is a speaker and the Senior Director of Vertical Innovation at Constant Contact. She is a dynamic, results-driven sales and strategy leader with a relentless passion for empowering individuals and teams to achieve their highest potential. Stephanie's track record as a revenue generator, strategic thinker, and sales training and enablement expert has led to success in developing and executing go-to-market strategies that drive revenue growth. Connect with Stephanie on LinkedIn.  Dave Charest is a keynote speaker, award-winning podcast host of Be A Marketer, and the Director of Small Business Success at Constant Contact, the digital marketing platform trusted by millions of small businesses. Every day, Dave talks with small business owners about what really works in marketing. His job is to take those lessons, strip out the noise, and make marketing make sense—whether it's email, social, text, or AI. Connect with Dave on LinkedIn.  Listen to Be a Marketer here.    About Your Host Marki Lemons Ryhal is a ​​Licensed Managing Broker, REALTOR®, and avid volunteer.  She is a dynamic keynote speaker and workshop facilitator, both on-site and virtual; she's the go-to expert for artificial Intelligence, entrepreneurship, and social media in real estate. Marki Lemons Ryhal is dedicated to all things real estate, and with 25+ years of marketing experience, Marki has taught over 250,000 REALTORS® how to earn up to a 2682% return on their marketing dollars. Marki's expertise has been featured in Forbes, the Washington Post, Homes.com, and REALTOR® Magazine.   Check out this episode on our website, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify, and don't forget to leave a review if you like what you heard. Your review feeds the algorithm so our show reaches more people. Thank you!

David Scott Lynn is a yoga therapist, bodywork specialist, and creator of Myo-Structural Bodywork. For over 45 years, he has helped people resolve chronic pain and avoid unnecessary surgeries through deep relaxation and mindful movement. His approach blends yoga, massage, and emotional intelligence, showing that muscle tension is often the hidden root of long-term pain. He teaches people to reconnect their minds with their bodies to restore health, balance, and awareness. In this episode of Marketer of the Day, David explains how most physical and emotional issues share the same source—disconnection from the body. He breaks down the myths around yoga, explains why real mindfulness starts with physical awareness, and shares simple, practical ways to reduce tension and stress in daily life. Listeners learn how relaxation improves not only performance and focus but also emotional intelligence, creativity, and resilience in business and life. Quotes: “Most pain comes from excess muscle tension. When you relax the muscle, you release the problem at its root.” “Your emotions live in your body. You can't think your way out of tension—you have to feel your way through it.” “Real yoga isn't about poses or flexibility. It's about awareness in motion.” “When you slow down and reconnect with your body, thinking quiets down, and action becomes effortless.” Resources: Visit David Scott Lynn's Website Connect with David Scott Lynn on LinkedIn Connect with David Scott Lynn on Facebook Follow David Scott Lynn on X

Tired of writing emails no one reads…or worse, emails no one clicks? Daniel and Jay break down an email tactic that's stupid simple but wildly underrated: how using animated GIFs can instantly lift your click-through rates and make any email impossible to ignore. They explain why GIFs still outperform video in email, how to theme them for maximum relevance (especially during November–December), and how AI + free tools like Canva make creating them a three-minute job, even if you “don't know what you're doing.” They break down: > Why animated GIFs consistently boost click-throughs by 20% > The seasonal window where GIF performance skyrockets > How AI can create, crop, and embed GIFs for you instantly If you're a Marketer looking for an easy way to boost email performance this quarter, this one's for you.

Shel Horowitz, known as the “Transformpreneur,” shows businesses how to profit by solving global problems. As a consultant, copywriter, and coauthor of Guerrilla Marketing to Heal the World, he helps companies grow through sustainability, fairness, and social responsibility. Shel proves that green practices can boost profit by lowering costs and driving innovation, sharing examples from small businesses to major corporations like Walmart that doubled the market for organic food.In this episode of Marketer of the Day, Shel reveals how businesses can turn purpose into profit by focusing on regenerative, not just sustainable, practices. He explains why the smartest entrepreneurs start with small, high-impact changes, how conscious choices create ripple effects, and how thinking differently about marketing, energy, and consumption can both save the planet and build stronger brands. Quotes: “All of us can make a difference, even if it starts with something as small as buying a fair-trade chocolate bar.” “Going green isn't just affordable, it can be the most profitable choice you make.” “Sustainability means running in place. Regenerativity means making progress.” “Impossible is not a fact, it's an opinion. Impossible is temporary.” Resources: Visit Shel Horowitz's Website Connect with Shel Horowitz on LinkedIn Subscribe to Shel Horowitz's Newsletter Read Shel Horowitz's Personal Blog Connect with Shel Horowitz on Facebook

Brandon Thor walked away from managing $400 million on Wall Street to launch Thor Metals Group, a company built on education and transparency about gold and silver investing. He exposes how traditional finance and government debt have distorted money's true value, and why gold remains the most reliable measure of wealth in history.In this episode of Marketer of the Day, Brandon breaks down how the U.S. moved off the gold standard, why the dollar's strength is fading, and how economic shifts and global alliances are reshaping financial security. He explains why most Americans overlook precious metals, how crypto distracted investors, and why he believes owning gold and silver is critical for protecting real wealth today. Quotes: “Gold and silver have never gone to zero, and never will. You can't print them, and that's exactly why they hold value.” “Crypto was marketed as digital gold, but it's the opposite. Gold protects your wealth. Crypto gambles with it.” “If you believe the government will pay off its debt and the world will live in peace, don't buy gold. Otherwise, you might want to think again.” “The system hates investments where you're the only one who benefits. That's what gold and silver represent—sovereignty.” Resources: Connect with Brandon Thor on LinkedIn Visit Brandon Thor's Website Follow Brandon Thor on Instagram

Meta's Andromeda update has disrupted digital marketing for good. But, we've cracked the code! We're offering you 30 monthly deliverables,10 ad types, media buying, and access to Tier 11's data suite to help you stay ahead.Get our exclusive Creative Diversification Package at: https://www.tiereleven.com/cd AI is not a buzzword. It is not a passing trend. It's the future of marketing. In this episode, we explore why big tech companies are pouring billions into artificial intelligence and how it's already transforming the way we run ads, create content, and optimize our campaigns. We break down some mind-blowing stats, including Google's projected $93 billion investment in AI this year and Meta's massive $81 billion spend. We discuss the changes we've already seen in our own campaigns, from the Meta Andromeda update to creative diversification, which is making ad optimization faster, more efficient, and far more productive. If you're not using AI to enhance your marketing efforts, now's the time to start, or risk falling behind. We challenge you to think about one task in your marketing that you really don't want to do anymore, and then find an AI tool to make that task faster, cheaper, and more efficient. In This Episode:- The massive AI investments from big tech companies- Amazon's investment and earnings from AWS- Applying AI innovation to marketing- Simple steps to start using AI todayMentioned in the Episode:Previous episodes on Andromeda: https://perpetualtraffic.com/?s=andromeda Listen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491 Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuK Subscribe and watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_traffic?sub_confirmation=1We Appreciate Your Support!Visit our website: https://perpetualtraffic.com/ Follow us on X: https://x.com/perpetualtraf Connect with Ralph Burns: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ralphburns Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/ralphhburns/ Hire Tier11 - https://www.tiereleven.com/apply-now Connect with Lauren Petrullo:Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/laurenepetrullo/LinkedIn -

Dr. John DeGarmo is a leading authority on foster care, an international consultant to legal agencies, and founder of The Foster Care Institute. He has taken in more than 60 foster children and turned two decades of experience into books, talks, and training for families and professionals. He shares the realities behind America's foster care system, addressing trauma, abuse, neglect, and the urgent need for reform. Listeners learn what it truly takes to be a foster parent, why support systems matter, and how anyone can make a difference for children in crisis. In this episode of Marketer of the Day, Dr. DeGarmo explains how he turned personal tragedy into purpose after witnessing child neglect and human trafficking in his community. He describes the emotional and logistical challenges of fostering, the gaps in the system, and why compassion fatigue is real for both parents and caseworkers. Most importantly, he offers simple, practical ways that anyone can help, from donating supplies to mentoring local youth. This conversation is a call to awareness, empathy, and action for the next generation. Quotes: “Foster parenting is the hardest thing I've ever done, but it's also the most rewarding.” “Within a mile of where each of us lives, there's probably a child crying out for help.” “Not everyone can be a foster parent, but everyone can help a child in some way.” “I can't change the world, and you can't change the world, but for those children we help, their world has changed.” Resources: Connect with Dr. John DeGarmo on LinkedIn Visit Dr. John DeGarmo's Website Connect with Dr. John DeGarmo on Facebook Follow Dr. John DeGarmo on X Watch Dr. John DeGarmo on YouTube