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    The Dentalpreneur Podcast w/ Dr. Mark Costes
    2283: Breaking Down the Workforce Shortage in Dentistry

    The Dentalpreneur Podcast w/ Dr. Mark Costes

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 4, 2025 28:57


    On today's episode, Dr. Mark Costes sits down with Holli Perez, CMO and co-founder of DirectDental, to discuss the workforce challenges reshaping the dental industry. Holli shares her journey from being laid off in a DSO leadership role to launching a game-changing dental staffing platform that now serves practices in all 50 states. The conversation dives deep into the realities of temp staffing, the growing hygienist shortage, and why nearly 30% of dentists are reportedly doing their own hygiene work.  Holli also unpacks practical strategies for improving employee retention, creating compelling job listings, and recognizing when toxic leadership is sabotaging team culture. With DirectDental now a part of Henry Schein, Holli gives a behind-the-scenes look at their future initiatives to onboard new grads and streamline dental hiring across the nation. Be sure to check out the full episode from the Dentalpreneur Podcast! EPISODE RESOURCES https://directdental.com https://www.truedentalsuccess.com Dental Success Network Subscribe to The Dentalpreneur Podcast

    Renegade Thinkers Unite: #2 Podcast for CMOs & B2B Marketers

    ABM falls apart fast when teams jump in before locking down who they're chasing, why it matters, and how it's all supposed to run. Sales pushes one list, marketing builds another, and no one agrees on who actually matters. No shared ICP? No clean data? Well, no chance. You need a strategy. Guest host Jon Russo (B2B Fusion) corrals Heidi Bullock (Tealium), Patti Newcomer (Centerbase), and Bindu Chellappan (Corpay) for a breakdown of how they're keeping their ABM engines running clean. Think pods with purpose, seller-first workflows, and data that matters. In this episode:  Heidi on running pods that bring marketing, sales, and CS into one motion  Patti on aligning across the funnel and why ABM needs ownership  Bindu on activating firmographic and intent data with shared definitions  Plus:  Where alignment really starts  Why trust beats tech every time  How AI is speeding up the grunt work without losing the signal  The metrics that actually tell you it's working Tune in to learn about what breaks ABM, what fixes it, and how to keep teams pulling in the same direction.  For full show notes and transcripts, visit https://renegademarketing.com/podcasts/ To learn more about CMO Huddles, visit https://cmohuddles.com/

    The CMO Podcast
    Elizabeth Rutledge (American Express) | The Customer at the Center of Everything

    The CMO Podcast

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 2, 2025 48:15


    Jim's guest this week on The CMO Podcast is Elizabeth Rutledge, the Chief Marketing Officer of American Express. Elizabeth is a unique CMO–she has been at AmEx for her entire career of 35 years, and she has been CMO for seven of those years. AmEx's stock was about $4 when Elizabeth joined, and it is about $300 currently. More trivia–American Express was founded in 1850–one of the oldest brands in the world. Elizabeth graduated from Princeton, and earned her MBA from the Stern school at NYU. Recorded in person at the Deloitte Apartment at the Cannes Festival of Creativity, join the two for Jim's conversation with the CMO of a 175-year-old brand that is certainly not behaving that way.---This week's episode is brought to you by Deloitte and StrawberryFrog.Learn more: https://strawberryfrog.com/jimSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    The Courageous Podcast
    Dr. Jonah Essers - Pediatric Gastroenterologist

    The Courageous Podcast

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 2, 2025 41:46


    Dr. Jonah Essers fights insurance red tape with the same rigor he once brought to genetic research at Columbia and Harvard. In this conversation with Ryan, he explains how his blunt LinkedIn posts—naming pharmacy-benefit managers and citing peer-reviewed data—have forced billion-dollar payers to reverse drug denials within hours, delivering treatments that 45-day appeals would delay. He recalls the day a hospital CMO tried to silence him but, after hearing the evidence, granted full support. Ryan and Dr. Essers also unpack Walter Cronkite's jab at America's “healthy, caring system,” debate fairness versus justice, and explore the quiet fear doctors feel when advocacy risks their jobs.

    Secrets To Scaling Online
    How To Increase AOV with Raveena Cheema

    Secrets To Scaling Online

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 2, 2025 26:30


    Send us a textWhat do you do when customers love your product…but only buy once? On today's E-commerce OS Fast Track, Jordan West sits down with Raveena Cheema, Co-Founder and CMO of Purple Rose Supply, to unpack the retention puzzle for cannabis cigars—an inherently low-frequency purchase that's ripe with untapped opportunity.Timestamps:00:01 – Intro: “What do you do when you have an amazing acquisition funnel…” 02:00 – Acquisition: “I would say acquisition, definitely tricky…” 06:37 – Core Question: “How do I drive repeat purchases in a lowish frequency category…” 08:15 – Repeat Skepticism: “Why would somebody want to buy another of the same?” 20:49 – Experimentation: “just try it all right? Like try it all.” 25:35 – Socials Skepticism: “I am so happy you said you're not on socials.”Inside the Episode:Understanding the 10% Repurchase PhenomenonWe dive into why only one in ten customers return within the first 90 days—even when they swear by your product. You'll learn how to benchmark your performance against industry cohorts and why a seemingly low rate can actually signal a massive upside if you apply the right levers.Three Strategic Retention LeversHabit-Stacking Your Product: Embed your hardware into daily routines by optimizing ease-of-use and creating “ritual” touchpoints (e.g., morning wake-and-bake vs. weekend social sessions).New SKUs & Accessories: From color-drops to premium add-ons, discover how launching micro-collections or complementary tools can spark fresh interest—without a full R&D budget.Competitive Pricing Tests: Learn how tiered pricing, bundle discounts, and limited-time promos can shift purchase behavior and elevate your average order value.Real-World Product HacksSee actual “before and after” examples of celebrity collabs (imagine a Seth Rogen x Purple Rose Supply limited edition!), collectible series, and one-off seasonal drops that turned casual buyers into repeat collectors.Retention Tech Stack Deep DiveWe'll walk through best practices for Klaviyo flows and SMS sequences—plus how to leverage AI-powered tools like Ripple.ai for hyper-personalized campaigns that resonate at scale.Guest info:Linkedin: linkedin.com/in/raveenacheemaEnjoyed this deep dive? Smash that LIKE button, drop your biggest retention challenge in the COMMENTS, and SUBSCRIBE for weekly, battle-tested playbooks to scale your ecommerce brand with real, actionable systems.

    Beyond Better with Stacy Ennis
    Rethinking marketing and redesigning life

    Beyond Better with Stacy Ennis

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 2, 2025 47:56


    What happens when you lose everything—your business, your home, your sense of direction? For Peter Murphy Lewis, aka, Strategic Pete, it was the start of something deeper: a reimagined life and business, built with intention.Peter is a fractional CMO, documentary filmmaker, and former TV host who once led one of South America's top travel companies. In this conversation, we explore how he rebuilt from the ground up, choosing freedom, family, and sustainability over hustle culture.We talk about the power of simplicity in marketing, why most campaigns fail to deliver ROI, and what business owners can do differently to create real results. Peter also shares how he's structured his business to support the life he wants to live—and the lessons he's carried with him from the trails, the road, and the stage.Whether you're building a business, rethinking your marketing strategy, or simply seeking a more aligned way to live and work, this conversation is a grounding and energizing listen.Show notes:The Eisenhower Matrix: How to prioritize your to-do listLearn more about Peter:WebsiteLinkedInBook recommendation:The 5 Love Languages: The Secret to Love that Lasts, by Gary ChapmanTraction: Get a Grip on Your Business, by Gino WickmanFollow me on: Instagram @stacyennisFacebook @stacyenniscreativeLinkedInYouTube @stacyennisauthorTo submit a question, email hello@stacyennis.com or visit http://stacyennis.com/contact and fill out the form on the page.

    Entrepreneurship Lab
    Stronger & Smarter After a Failure

    Entrepreneurship Lab

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 2, 2025 23:32


    In this podcast episode of Entrepreneurship Lab, my guest is Jennifer Christensen, the Co-Founder and CMO of Beacon Media + Marketing. Jennifer's expertise transforms the digital marketing landscape with AI-driven strategies, catapulting small businesses and non-profits to new heights of success. Her innovative work ensures thatmarketing strategies are not just effective but dynamic growth engines. Jennifer's journey began in her 20s, and her path through entrepreneurship has equipped her with rich experiences that resonate with business owners facing challenges in launching products, expanding market share, and telling authentic brand stories. She brings incredible insights into entrepreneurship, AI adoption, and strategic marketing practices. Her innovation prowess is further highlighted by Beacon's recognition on the Inc. 5000 List for 2023 and 2024 and the Inc. Regionals #24 spot in the Rocky Mountain Region in 2025. Enjoy the episode and implement the tips to make your business more successful!    Don't forget to subscribe, download and share this episode!

    Remarkable Marketing
    F1 Sponsorships: B2B Marketing Lessons on Going All In with Action Sports Marketing Consultant, Ondar Tarlow

    Remarkable Marketing

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 1, 2025 48:56


    Sponsorships aren't just about slapping your logo on something anymore. If you want to make an impact, you need to think bigger, bolder—and know when to step into the driver's seat.That's the appeal of F1 sponsorships, where precision meets pageantry, and brand integration is as strategic as the race itself. In this episode, we tap into that high-speed energy with the help of our special guest, Ondar Tarlow, marketing consultant for action sports. Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from global sponsorships, smart storytelling, and knowing when to go all in—and when to walk away.About our guest, Ondar TarlowOndar Tarlow has over 20 years of experience in marketing and branding. He's known for engaging audiences through data-driven insights and witty, creative storytelling to achieve results. He has been leveraging AI to boost campaign performance results by 5x with propensity models and cutting production time by 75% using Generative AI tools like ChatGPT and Adobe Firefly, all while upholding IP standards.As Chief Marketing Officer at Kinecta Federal Credit Union and Pacific Premier Bank, he spearheaded award-winning campaigns that resulted in over $1.7 billion in product volume and tens of thousands of new customers. These successes earned him industry recognition, including Diamond Awards for brand awareness and a Top 100 Marketer award.Currently, Ondar serves as a marketing consultant for motorsports, financial, and lifestyle brands, partnering with organizations like Fast Lane Drive. His passion for motorsports, including attending 11 Formula 1 races worldwide, inspires his focus on high-performance teamwork and precision. Ondar's sponsorship expertise - demonstrated through collaborations with the LA Chargers, LA Galaxy, Anaheim Ducks, Luft 10 (Porsche), and BeachLife Music Festival - highlights his ability to connect brands with their ideal target audiences. Ondar holds a BA in Psychology from California State University, Northridge, and has earned digital marketing certifications from UCLA and trained with the American Red Cross in Crisis Communications and Media Relations. Ondar is also dedicated to community development, serving on the board of Junior Achievement, which provides youth with financial education and career readiness tools.What B2B Companies Can Learn From F1 Sponsorships:Don't just show up—integrate. It's not enough to slap your logo on something and call it a day. True brand partnerships go deeper. “Really any company that can afford it, can get a logo. But when you're doing a true brand integration like Oracle has done with Red Bull, that's really where things can pay off.” The ROI comes from relevance, not just visibility. Think about how your product can become part of the story.No plan, no payoff. As Ondar puts it: “Plan, plan. plan. And then data, data, and data.” B2B marketers must tie sponsorships to broader company strategy from the very beginning. That means aligning with your CEO and CFO, knowing what problem you're trying to solve, and figuring out how to measure impact—before you sign the dotted line.Go niche to go big. F1's PacSun collaboration proves you don't have to outspend Rolex to make an impact. You just need the right story. “They really thought about it... and what they've been able to create is an interest in F1 from this demographic.” By focusing on Gen Alpha and teenage girls, PacSun built a new fanbase and drove fashion sales—without buying trackside banners. In B2B, the same principle applies: niche audiences, well-served, can generate outsized returns.Quotes*“You have to test. There's going to be periods of time where you're gonna do something new, and you can't be afraid to fail…When you're finding out something that's working, then you need to double down and you need to take the risks. You need to take those risks and move forward with them. Things that aren't working, don't marry yourself to them. Figure out what you need to tweak and then continue to test. Marketing is not an exact science.”*“ Plan, plan, plan, and then data, data, and data. So first off, the plan is you have to make sure you're aware of what the strategy is of the company that you're with. And if you're a CMO, you're obviously responsible for the marketing strategy, and you should have a seat at the table as part of developing the strategy as far as the company, in a whole. So that's first off, and then understanding exactly what the challenge is, and then how are you going to be able to come up with a solution based on the decisions that you're making based on brand integration. And then from there is what data can you capture and how can you utilize that data so that you can drive metrics and those reporting metrics to show exactly what the benefit is of the partnership is that you're involved with.”*“ Brands can really leverage [figuring] out what the storyline is. To get the human aspect to it. And I think that that is a great opportunity for brands to look at is that if they're gonna invest in a driver or they're gonna invest in a team is what personalities are making up that team there.”Time Stamps[0:55] Meet Ondar Tarlow, marketing consultant for action sports. [01:07] Why F1 Sponsorships?[02:59] Ondar's Background[04:50] The Rise of F1 in the US[06:34] Understanding F1 Sponsorships[11:28] ROI on F1 Sponsorships[15:03] Drive to Survive: Impact on F1[18:08] Anatomy of an F1 Sponsorship Deal[24:47] The High Stakes of F1 Sponsorships[28:25] The Appeal of F1 Events[29:32] Strategic Brand Integration in F1 Sponsorships[36:34] The Importance of Planning and Data in Sponsorships[40:53] Leveraging F1 Storylines for Brand Success[45:06] Final Thoughts and TakeawaysLinksConnect with Ondar on LinkedInAbout Remarkable!Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction and fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at CaspianStudios.com. In today's episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.

    Demand Gen Visionaries
    Search: Don't Throw The Baby Out With The Bath Water

    Demand Gen Visionaries

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 1, 2025 48:20


    This episode features an interview with Putney Cloos, CMO at Bombora, a B2B data pioneer that connects the B2B ecosystem in a one-of-a-kind Data Co-op of leading publishers, brand websites, and premium data providers.Putney dives into the criticality of intent data in budding your go-to-market motions, the importance of measuring ROI across a long sales cycles and playing the long game in PR.  Key Takeaways:While we all need to be rethinking search and paying attention to how the world is changing, we shouldn't abandon traditional search entirely, or too quickly. It still has a significant role. While some see PR as an old-school tactic, it's a very high return tactic. Marketers should leverage the fact that journalists are under pressure to find stories and should be reaching out before there is a deadline to they are top of mind. An AI thought-partner doesn't care when you throw out the entire brainstorm or trash an hour of work, making AI a great thought partner. Quote:“One thing that we're all struggling with, or thinking about at least, is traditional search. I think we all need to learn and think about, how does the world change? But the reality is in aggregate, traditional search still plays a pretty significant role. We're not going to throw the baby out with the bath water. We have to think about how we position ourselves as the world changes, but continue to do sort of old school investment and test and learn in the traditional search channels.”Episode Timestamps: *(04:16) The Trust Tree: Selling to publishers *(19:43) The Playbook: Invest in high quality intent data *(41:36) The Dust Up: Conflict during the interview process*(45:06) Quick Hits: Putney's quick hits Sponsor:Pipeline Visionaries is brought to you by Qualified.com. Qualified helps you turn your website into a pipeline generation machine with PipelineAI. Engage and convert your most valuable website visitors with live chat, chatbots, meeting scheduling, intent data, and Piper, your AI SDR. Visit Qualified.com to learn more.Links: Connect with Ian on LinkedInConnect with Putney on LinkedInLearn more about BomboraLearn more about Caspian Studios

    Unleashed - How to Thrive as an Independent Professional
    612.  Wes Wheless, Intellectual Headshots for Solo Consultants

    Unleashed - How to Thrive as an Independent Professional

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 30, 2025 46:54


    Wes Wheless helps solo consultants bottle their secret sauce.  To do so, Wes offers two services: The NicheFinder Sprint and The IP Builder Sprint. He believes that consultants need to identify a niche or specialization and a unique approach to serving that niche, typically codified into intellectual property (IP). Each sprint is delivered one-on-one over 1-2 weeks. Niche Finder Explained NicheFinder is designed for early-stage solo consultants who are struggling to narrow down their niche. It involves working one-on-one to identify their zone of genius and then lay out potential ICPs. The client and the consultant come up with three specific ICPs, which are then run through a custom GPT that runs a detailed viability analysis on each lane.  The GPT also derives three additional ICPs based on context and evaluates their viability as well.  With an identified niche, the consultant can now decisively focus on building a market position around that specific problem and buyer. Examples of Niche Consulting Wes shares an example of a client whose determined niche is fractional CMO for B2C subscription companies that have hit a growth plateau and have not invested in brand marketing.  Another example is a client who went solo from a boutique consulting firm that specializes in change management. Her genius zone was being the translation layer between strategic vision and operational teams. She had a keen understanding of internal issues and also helped new executives acclimate to their roles. The GPT analysis suggested that she should focus on innovation teams running pilots but not getting traction due to organizational resistance. Wes explains that the GPT analysis includes 12 viability factors, including access, lifetime value, competitive alternatives, and target revenue numbers. These factors help narrow down options and identify red flags, ultimately leading to a more viable solution. Sourcing Consulting Opportunities Before Niching Down The discussion explores the approach of starting with potential buyers from your existing network, rather than relying on staffing firms or referrals. Will suggests starting with decision makers or influencers. This approach can help you identify your potential universe of buyers and determine what services they are willing to pay for. Wes adds that this approach can help you learn about selling yourself and what people are interested in. However, Wes points out that it can also lead to triangulating into a specialty that might not be interesting or appropriate for you. If you continue to work for anyone who will hire you at the moment, you may end up working in areas where you don't have much business taking on that kind of work. Identifying and Validating a Consulting Niche Wes discusses the process of developing a niche through the NicheFinder sprint. He emphasizes the importance of having a strong understanding of the client's pain points and interests before proceeding with the niche finder. Wes suggests that the process should be followed by market validation conversations, where potential clients can share their ideas and validate their interest in the service. This process should take around three to five conversations. Wes suggests changing the LinkedIn headline and content to be specific to the identified problem. He also suggests codifying relevant IP and developing visual assets that can be shared. The IP Builder Sprint and Intellectual Headshots Wes suggests that consultants should have served at least two or three clients within their niche before starting the IP Builder sprint. Wes suggests that consultants should display their expertise prominently through visual assets, which Wes calls intellectual headshots. These are instantly digestible visual articulations of your expertise that can prompt and streamline conversations. They can be distributed at scale and can look like typical consulting frameworks. Some clients have created headshots that look like comic strips or memes, which can open up dialogue and help clients see their problem or pain point. In conclusion, The IP Builder Sprint is a valuable investment for consultants to showcase their expertise and engage clients. By creating intellectual headshots, consultants can instantly telegraph their unique expertise, ultimately leading to elevated sales conversations and more client conversions. Examples of Client Intellectual Headshots Wes shares examples of client intellectual headshots. The first quickly communicates the five service models and personas in the consulting industry. The framework is designed to help consultants understand their roles and potential career paths. Another example is a line chart showing the client mix over time, with a warm network starting at zero and gradually increasing. Word of mouth referrals also increase over time, but the social plateau indicates that word of mouth referrals will eventually hit an asymptote. Wes then presents a client example,, a fractional general counsel for B2B SaaS companies. Mark wanted to address the stereotype that lawyers are not liked and can gum up the process. They created a visual to illustrate this point, using a skier jumping off a ski ramp to demonstrate that lawyers can build momentum rather than kill deals. This humorous approach makes fun of the stereotype and encourages clients to focus on building momentum rather than killing deals. In this discussion, Wes Wheless and Will Bachman discuss their approach to business and the importance of memorable and easily digestible content. They discuss the Grim Reaper, a humorous concept that addresses the elephant in the room and highlights the co-creative nature of the sprint. They also discuss Mark's ability to speed up the sales contract process, which is crucial for closing deals faster and increasing sales revenue. Mark's approach is not about charging by the hour but about making sure deals close, rather than covering his own assets or inflating his billable hours. He uses simple, clear language to convey his main point, making it easy for people to understand and remember.  The final topic discussed is the sale contract process, which can lead to deals losing due to the lack of a clear and concise presentation. Mark's approach focuses on shrinking the contract process, reducing the risk of losing the deal once it's won. This differentiation with Mark and his ideas can lead to increased revenue and better deals for the company. The Benefits of the Intellectual Headshot Wes highlights the importance of posting these assets on LinkedIn and other platforms to ensure they reflect the work done. Wes also emphasizes the role of visuals in reducing pressure on consultants, especially new ones, who may feel anxious about speaking their expertise. By providing a simple visual that serves as a common ground for conversation, it allows consultants to focus on the main points of the conversation without having to deliver a lengthy spiel. On the client side, Wes emphasizes the importance of reducing cognitive load and freeing up time for the discussion.  Timestamps: 0:02: Introduction to Wes Wheless and His Services  01:11: Details of the Niche Finder Program  12:43: Implementation and Validation of Niche Finder Results  20:53: Introduction to IP Builder and Intellectual Headshots  32:43: Examples of Intellectual Headshots  Links: Website: developmyip.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/wwheless/ The Lightbulb daily newsletter for solo consultants: developmyip.com/daily   Unleashed is produced by Umbrex, which has a mission of connecting independent management consultants with one another, creating opportunities for members to meet, build relationships, and share lessons learned. Learn more at www.umbrex.com.  

    The Systems and Workflow Magic Podcast
    Behind the Scenes of My Business Pivot: What's Next for This Podcast

    The Systems and Workflow Magic Podcast

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 30, 2025 12:46


    In this BRAND NEW solo episode, I'm pulling back the curtain on why I took a three-month break from releasing new podcast episodes and what's changing (and staying the same) as I move forward. I'm sharing the behind-the-scenes journey of how I've evolved into serving two specific groups of business owners: family photographers who want sustainable systems and marketing strategies, and small business owners who want smart, strategic launch support. You'll also hear the story behind my new membership, the Family Photographer's Marketing Society, and what you can expect from the podcast in the coming months, including a brand new Black Friday series starting next week.Want the full blog post with all the shownotes? Click HereResources & Links

    Project Medtech
    Episode 225 | Brian Morley, Chief Marketing Officer at Native Orthopaedics & Tino Chow, CEO at Giant Shoulders | Crafting & Aligning Your Medtech Brand for Growth

    Project Medtech

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 30, 2025 55:14


    In this episode, Duane Mancini welcomes Brian Morley, CMO of Native Orthopaedics, and returning guest Tino Chow, CEO and Founder at Giant Shoulders, to discuss the critical aspects of building and growing a medtech brand. The conversation explores Brian's journey into Native Orthopaedics, the importance of a clear, operationalized vision for startups, and how to effectively balance creative ideation with execution. They delve into practical strategies for achieving brand alignment, identifying when a rebrand is necessary, and leveraging the digital age for reach. The episode also introduces the valuable concept of visionary and integrator roles, highlighting how a strong brand can serve as an integrator to connect a company's vision with its team and partners.Brian Morley LinkedInNative Orthopaedics WebsiteTino Chow LinkedInGiant Shoulders WebsiteDuane Mancini LinkedInProject Medtech WebsiteProject Medtech LinkedIn

    Rockstar CMO FM
    The Rose and Rockstar: Educating the LLMs

    Rockstar CMO FM

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 28, 2025 27:28


    Welcome to The Rose and Rockstar - with the Chief Troublemaker at Seventh Bear, Robert Rose, behind the bar serving one of his splendid cocktails while our host Ian Truscott, a CMO but not a rockstar, picks his brain on a marketing topic.  This week, on Ian's mind is whether we should be educating LLMs with our content, and Robert suggests that there might be lessons to be learned from Google's rise two decades ago. They discuss: How our content gets served, aggregated, and we don't pick the experience What is the purpose and value of educating LLMs with our content?  Will users click through? Is it an impression?  Will the content consumer behavior change? Is there a first mover advantage? Do you have a question for the bar? Or maybe an opinion on what we've discussed? Please get in touch - just search “rockstar cmo” on the interwebs or LinkedIn. Enjoy! — The Links The people: Ian Truscott on LinkedIn and Bluesky Robert Rose on LinkedIn and Bluesky Mentioned this week Ian's new advisory firm - Velocity B Robert's podcast - This Old Marketing Robert's newsletter - Lens on Substack Robert's firm: Seventh Bear Rockstar CMO: The Beat Newsletter that we send every Monday Rockstar CMO on the web, Twitter, and LinkedIn Previous episodes and all the show notes: Rockstar CMO FM. Track List: Piano Music is by Johnny Easton, shared under a Creative Commons license We'll be right back by Stienski & Mass Media on YouTube You can listen to this on all good podcast platforms, like Apple, Amazon and Spotify. This podcast is part of the Marketing Podcast Network Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    Renegade Thinkers Unite: #2 Podcast for CMOs & B2B Marketers
    461: Pricing Power: Marketing's CFO Currency

    Renegade Thinkers Unite: #2 Podcast for CMOs & B2B Marketers

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 27, 2025 51:34


    Let's face it, most marketing metrics don't travel well to the CFO's office. Pricing power is different. It's measurable, margin-backed, and proof that your brand is strong enough to charge more without losing volume. To help make sense of it all, Drew brings in Chris Burggraeve, Founder of Vicomte and author of books on marketing and business strategy. Together, they discuss what pricing power means, how to measure it, and why it's the most powerful way to communicate marketing value to your CFO and C-suite. In this episode: What pricing power means and how to measure it  Why brand strength drives profit, not just visibility  How CMOs can align with CFOs through finance fluency  The tools and mindset needed to link marketing to valuation  How pricing power bridges marketing metrics with financial outcomes   Tune in for a clearer way to connect brand, margin, and market strength.  For full show notes and transcripts, visit https://renegademarketing.com/podcasts/ To learn more about CMO Huddles, visit https://cmohuddles.com/

    The Marketing Madmen
    189. Mic Drop: The Final Broadcast of Marketing Madmen

    The Marketing Madmen

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 27, 2025 45:04


    Description: After nearly three years and 190 episodes, host Nick Constantino signs off Marketing Madmen with a bold, honest look at lessons learned, battles won, and the future of marketing. From agency letdowns to Vegas trade show wins, this finale is part retrospective, part real-talk masterclass on what modern marketing really demands.

    The Marketing Millennials
    How To Build A Winning Marketing Playbook with Kyle Coleman, Global VP of Marketing at ClickUp | Ep. 329

    The Marketing Millennials

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 27, 2025 44:38


    What does it take to create $100 million in incremental pipeline in a single year? Kyle Coleman, Global VP of Marketing at ClickUp, unpacks his mission to help the company reach $1B in ARR and why “normal f***ing sucks” might be the best company value he's ever worked under. From his start as an SDR to becoming a two-time CMO, Kyle shares lessons on category design, uniting sales and marketing, and creating demand in a saturated AI-hyped world.  Plus, what's ClickUp's “No Lead Left Behind” initiative all about? Kyle breaks it down, along with how to productize a horizontal platform, why brand awareness makes or breaks regional sales success, and how to build strategic messaging that resonates.  Whether you're scaling a PLG motion or trying to land 7-figure enterprise deals, this is the episode for you.  ActiveCampaign⁠⁠ turns your ambition into impact by orchestrating your marketing through Active Intelligence and AI agents - powering your imagination with billions of data points, activating fully-realized campaigns and strategies from your ideas, and validating what works - so you can drive real results. Follow Kyle: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kyletcoleman/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennialsDaniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

    Sunny Side Up
    Ep. 545 | How marketing-sales alignment and smart segmentation drive B2B growth

    Sunny Side Up

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 27, 2025 28:12


    Episode SummaryIn this episode of OnBase, host Chris Moody sits down with Bryan Bowles to discuss how marketers can drive sustainable customer growth through tighter alignment with commercial teams, smarter segmentation, and role clarity across go-to-market functions.Bryan shares his unconventional career path and the insights he's gained by working across technical, product, and sales roles. He explains why marketers must understand both the buyer and the seller journeys, and how misaligned activities can waste resources and erode trust.From building campaigns that matter to structuring internal marketing roles with precision, Bryan offers a blueprint for modern B2B teams seeking to make a meaningful impact—especially when budgets are tight and expectations are high.Key TakeawaysStart with Seller Empathy: Great marketing doesn't just mirror the buyer's journey—it walks in the seller's shoes. Understanding how commercial teams use marketing materials is crucial to building relevant, timely campaigns.Segmentation is the Game-Changer: Trying to market to all customers equally leads to diluted efforts. Instead, narrow focus, precise segmentation, and account intelligence lead to higher conversion and deeper engagement.Align on Roles, Not Just Goals: Marketing success hinges on clearly defined roles. Bryan emphasizes letting product marketers focus on the “what” and “why,” while campaign teams drive the “how” with discipline and expertise.Activity ≠ Outcomes: Webinars and flashy tactics might feel good, but without a cohesive playbook and long-term view, they won't move the needle. Sustainable growth comes from planned, multi-touch, multi-channel programs.Operational Simplicity Drives Speed: Bringing content and campaign teams into one unit at GHX reduced handoffs and improved execution speed—creating what Bryan calls “one less handoff,” a powerful operational mantra.Outspend or Outsmart: When you can't outspend competitors, get surgical. Tight focus, clear audience segmentation, and close collaboration with the commercial team allow you to win smarter—not louder.Quotes“You don't need to spam the world. You need to be relevant to the right segment and convert.”Best moments 02:00 – Bryan's journey from rural hospital analyst to marketing leader.05:30 – Where companies fail in connecting commercial goals to marketing actions.09:00 – The secret to scaling customer growth through tight segmentation.13:00 – Turning field events into actionable intelligence for frontline teams.16:00 – Role definition and the art of avoiding activity-based marketing.20:00 – How merging content and campaign teams accelerated execution.23:30 – Why winning market share requires precision, not volume.Resource recommendationsBooks:Smart Brevity – A guide to simplifying communication and getting to the point faster.Podcasts:Outcomes Rocket – A healthcare-focused podcast Bryan recommends for insight into industry trends.Shout-outsKaycee Kalpin, CMO, Premier Inc.About the guestBryan Bowles is a seasoned marketing executive with over two decades of experience leading growth and innovation across the healthcare industry. He currently serves as Vice President of Corporate Marketing at GHX, where he oversees global marketing strategy, brand development, and the alignment of marketing initiatives with enterprise-wide business goals.Prior to GHX, Bryan held senior leadership roles at Everside Health and Premier Inc., where he was known for launching innovative healthcare solutions and driving measurable marketing impact. With a background spanning product management, sales, and marketing, Bryan brings a unique, cross-functional perspective that fuels customer-centric growth strategies.Connect with Bryan.

    Marketing B2B
    Guide : construis un podcast B2B pour accélérer la notoriété et l'acquisition client - Eric Seclet Co-fondateur @Spicy Lemon I Stratégie de contenu B2B multi-formats

    Marketing B2B

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 27, 2025 37:44


    Invité : Eric Seclet Co-fondateur @Spicy Lemon I Stratégie de contenu B2B multi-formatsDans cet épisode, je m'entretiens avec Eric Seclet, co-fondateur de l'agence Spicy Lemon. Nous explorons l'importance du podcasting dans le marketing B2B, sa pertinence en tant que canal marketing et la possibilité d'y entrer pour de nouveaux acteurs. Eric souligne la capacité du podcast à établir des liens profonds avec l'audience et partage des KPI les plus pertinents (les plus contre intuitifs)  pour les CMO et leur marque. Nous discutons de l'importance de la stratégie de contenu, des formats de podcast efficaces et des meilleures pratiques pour attirer des invités. Enfin, Eric évoque le retour sur investissement du podcasting, en insistant sur l'évaluation des résultats selon les objectifs spécifiques de chaque entreprise. Cet épisode offre des conseils précieux pour les professionnels du marketing B2B.Au menu de cette conversation entre Eric et Mony :0:14 Introduction au podcast B2B1:03 Lancement du podcast, est-ce trop tard ?4:27 Convaincre le top management9:24 Autres bénéfices du podcast13:57 Construire son émission de podcast17:04 Définir la ligne éditoriale26:34 Attirer les premiers invités28:22 Conseils d'organisation pour durer30:33 Mesurer le ROI du podcast34:25 Impact sur la notoriété36:07 Conclusion et ressources supplémentairesRéférences :LinkedIn d'Erichttps://www.linkedin.com/in/eric-seclet-copywriter-saas– ⚡ Connecte-toi à Mony⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠ici⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.Je suis Mony Chhim et je suis freelance LinkedIn Ads pour entreprises B2B (45+ clients accélérés)

    Remarkable Marketing
    Buena Vista Social Club: B2B Marketing Lessons on the Importance of Live Experiences with Chief Marketing Officer at Blackbird.AI, Dan Lowden

    Remarkable Marketing

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 26, 2025 47:00


    Some performances fade. Others stay with you for decades.Buena Vista Social Club is one of them. It isn't just a musical—it's a masterclass in resonance, memory, and experience.In this episode, we're pulling B2B marketing lessons from that spirit of storytelling with the help of Dan Lowden, Chief Marketing Officer at Blackbird.AI.Together, we explore why content should come first, how honesty builds brand resilience, and what it takes to create live experiences your audience will talk about for years.About our guest, Dan LowdenDan is the CMO at Blackbird.AI and leads the company's strategic marketing efforts, including demand generation and brand leadership. He has over 20 years of strategic experience at the executive level. He has served as CMO at cybersecurity firm HUMAN Security (acquired by Goldman Sachs), named one of the TIME100 Most Influential Companies of 2023. Lowden also served as the CMO at Digital Shadows (acquired by Reliaquest) and, before that, CMO at Invincea (acquired by Sophos) and VP of Marketing at vArmour (acquired by Night Dragon). He has held marketing leadership positions at Wayport (acquired by AT&T), IBM ThinkPad (acquired by Lenovo), NEC Technologies, and Sharp Electronics. Lowden holds an MBA in International Business from Rutgers Graduate School of Management and a Bachelor of Science from Rider University.What B2B Companies Can Learn From Buena Vista Social Club:Content is the foundation—not an afterthought. Even in cybersecurity, content is king. Dan says, “My first hire was a content person. You can have the best ABM strategy or tools, but if you don't have really valuable content, you're not going to get anywhere.” His advice? Lead with education, not asks. Thoughtful reports, relevant use cases, and engaging narratives will earn your audience's attention—and their trust.Honesty builds brand resilience. When it comes to trust, marketing can't cut corners. Especially in high-stakes industries like cybersecurity. Dan says, “There's been a lot of overstatement of things by marketers and salespeople. That's when marketing takes a ding.” Instead, he urges CMOs to stay grounded: deliver real value, communicate with clarity, and show your audience you're in it for the long haul.Live experiences create a lasting impact. If you want your brand to be unforgettable, you need to create moments that move people. “People still come up to us today and say that band and that experience 10-plus years ago—they remember. There's not been anything like that,” Dan says, reflecting on a live concert his team produced. Whether it's a concert, a rooftop dinner, or a one-of-a-kind conference, remarkable experiences turn into word-of-mouth—and brand love that lingers.Quotes*“To me, in marketing—B2B or B2C—it's about creating a relationship, trust, even friendship, a community with your audience.”*"If you treat your customers well, if you serve them well, if you're honest with them… then you have a chance of being very successful as a company.”*“Music is really, really important, really powerful… as a marketer, especially in cybersecurity where there's 5,000 cybersecurity companies, you have to do something different. You have to stand out.”Time Stamps[00:55] Meet Dan Lowden, CMO at Blackbird.AI[03:42] The Magic of Live Theater[06:21] The Role of a CMO in Cybersecurity[10:23] Understanding Narrative Attacks[14:29] The Evolution of Narrative Intelligence[22:36] The Story Behind Buena Vista Social Club[28:31] The Power of Live Music in Marketing[30:33] Creating Remarkable Experiences[39:21] The Importance of Content in Marketing[45:05] Final Thoughts and TakeawaysLinksConnect with Dan on LinkedInLearn more about Blackbird.AIAbout Remarkable!Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction and fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at CaspianStudios.com. In today's episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.

    Campaign Chemistry
    Campaign Chemistry: Live from Cannes

    Campaign Chemistry

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 26, 2025 26:48


    If you've never been to the basement of the Palais, let us set the scene for you. There are dozens of displays of campaigns for each category that show key details and visuals of some of the top work. Attendees can also visit computer labs to watch films and case studies for the campaigns. While walking the work, visitors can spot many of the industry's top creative thinkers and CMOs. During the time Campaign recorded this podcast, we spotted Kory Marchisotto, CMO of e.l.f Beauty, Chad Broude and Megan Lally, CCO and CEO of Highdive, respectively, and Tabata Gomez, CMO of McCormick & Company wandering the floor and looking for inspiration. In the Palais basement, Campaign was joined by new 4A's CEO Justin Thomas-Copeland, Brynna Aylward, CCO for adam&eveDDB North America, Christine Olivas, CEO and chief strategy officer for No Single Individual, and Ciro Sarmiento, CCO for Colle McVoy.They each walked the work, breaking down several campaigns that they loved, why they worked and in some cases, how they made them. AI Deciphered is back—live in New York City this November 13th.Join leaders from brands, agencies, and platforms for a future-focused conversation on how AI is transforming media, marketing, and the retail experience. Ready to future-proof your strategy? Secure your spot now at aidecipheredsummit.com. Use code POD at check out for $100 your ticket! campaignlive.com What we know about advertising, you should know about advertising. Start your 1-month FREE trial to Campaign US.

    The CMO Podcast
    The Creator Economy Roundtable with Brandon B, Kim Larson (YouTube) and Kenny Gold (Deloitte Digital)

    The CMO Podcast

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 25, 2025 40:37


    We had a whirlwind five days in Cannes last week, bringing you our first of many live, in-person episodes recorded as part of the Cannes Lions Festival. And to kick it off, Jim is diving into a topic that was a part of many conversations in the south of France…the Creator Economy. Creators and the space they've forged have become one of most transformative forces in marketing. It's reshaping how brands connect with people, how content is made and consumed, and how influence is earned. Joining Jim are three guests who know this world very well: Brandon B, Creator and Founder of StudioBKim Larson, the Global Head of YouTube CreatorsKenny Gold, the Managing Director, Head of Social, Content and Influencer for Deloitte DigitalWe're going to talk strategy, authenticity, audience building, and where this entire ecosystem is headed. With a little advice sprinkled in! So, tune in as we come to you live from the Deloitte Apartment at Cannes Lions!---This week's episode is brought to you by Deloitte.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    Marketing Trends
    H&R Block Went Full Reality TV to Unlock Gen-Z Customers

    Marketing Trends

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 25, 2025 60:13


    What do you get when you mix a 70-year-old legacy brand, Gen Z tax filers, and a reality TV show called Responsibility Island?An absolute marketing fever dream. And Jill Cress — CMO of H&R Block — is the mastermind behind it. We unpack how she's giving TurboTax-meets-Gen-Z realness. We're talking Roblox integrations, bold brand storytelling, and what happens when you challenge a category that's historically allergic to change.We cover:– How H&R Block turned tax season into a cultural moment– What marketers get wrong about Gen Z (and how to fix it)– Why AI is useful, but human empathy still pays the bills– The 4 E's of customer experience (one of them might make you cry)This is legacy brand marketing with ✨main character energy.✨Press play. Take notes. Maybe even call your tax pro. Key Moments:00:00 Introduction to Jill Cress, CMO of H&R Block01:49 H&R Block's Legacy and Innovation13:03 Challenges and Surprises in Marketing19:45 Responsibility Island: A Bold Marketing Move25:41 Measuring Success and Future Plans30:59 Differentiation and Brand Storytelling33:15 Life Stage Stories and Customer Experience38:21 The Role of Empathy in Customer Relationships44:08 AI in Tax Assistance51:33 The Future of Brand Storytelling53:43 Advice for Young Marketers57:02 Relevant or Irrelevant: Lightening Round Mission.org is a media studio producing content alongside world-class clients. Learn more at mission.org.

    FOX Sports Knoxville
    The Drive HR2 6.25.25: Author Mark Epstein dives into the Cape Cod League!

    FOX Sports Knoxville

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 25, 2025 48:56


    Top 4... CMo climbing up the ranks for the Halos The Drive might be heading up to Cape Cod Losing out on commits to the MLB draft

    The Erik Ainge Show
    The EA Show - Hour #2 (6.25.25)

    The Erik Ainge Show

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 25, 2025 39:31


    This hour featured conversation about ideal changes we would like to see made in sports, CMo's stellar night, and more...See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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    Building Better CMOs
    Lauren Beckstedt, CMO of Brunswick: Anchoring Brand Value

    Building Better CMOs

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 25, 2025 61:00


    Full transcript Watch this interview on YouTube — "There are still folks who feel like marketing is just fluff, it's just, 'make things pretty,'" says Lauren Beckstedt. Her mission, as CMO of the recreational boating company Brunswick, is to redefine what marketing is and to educate her organization about its power. Brunswick's portfolio includes iconic names in aquatic recreation, like Mercury Marine, Sea Ray, and Boston Whaler. And one of Lauren's initiatives has been implementing a new brand identity for the 175-year-old firm, under the tagline of "next never rests." Today on Building Better CMOs, Lauren talks with MMA Global CEO Greg Stuart about why being a hand-raiser opens doors in your career, leveraging consumer insights in the boating industry, and how she journeyed from talent management to CMO. They also discuss the importance of ethnographic research, implementing quarterly business reviews, and — most importantly — what kind of boat Greg should buy. This episode was produced and edited by Eric Johnson from ⁠⁠LightningPod.fm⁠⁠. ⁠⁠⁠Follow Building Better CMOs in your podcast app⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Subscribe on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Rate & review the podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠ Links: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Lauren's LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Greg's LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠

    The Digital Marketing Mentor
    090: Building Teams and Breaking Silos: Marketing Leadership in the Dirt World with Dan Briscoe

    The Digital Marketing Mentor

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 25, 2025 38:50 Transcription Available


    Send us a textIn this episode, Danny welcomes Dan Briscoe, CMO at BuildWitt, for a candid and inspiring discussion on leadership, team dynamics, and marketing in the construction industry. Dan shares stories from the Marine Corps to managing agencies, discusses his marketing philosophy, and breaks down how mentorship from icons like Jocko Willink and Marcus Sheridan shaped his approach. His practical wisdom shines through the entire episode through inspiring stories of his experiences breaking down silos, fostering collaboration, encouraging contribution to marketing, and creating a culture of free-flowing ideas.Episode Highlights: Dan shares how one of his most influential mentors, Jocko Willink, and his concept of “Extreme Ownership” changed his leadership approach.Discover through the episode how BuildWitt uses transparency as a superpower to align teams and motivate employees.Learn the difference between coaching and mentoring, and how Dan approaches both.Dan makes the case that small, specialized teams can outperform bloated or siloed departments—if you drop the ego.Dan reflects on his shift from President back to CMO and why it reignited his marketing passion.Episode Links: 

    Crypto Curious
    186 - Stability? Not This Week — War, The Fed, and GENIUS edges closer!

    Crypto Curious

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 25, 2025 18:54


    Today on the show, the whole gang is back together and just in time as markets flinch as the U.S. launches strikes on Iran, and Bitcoin feels the heat

    Fractional CMO Show
    Live Coaching with Casey

    Fractional CMO Show

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 25, 2025 67:39


    In this live coaching episode of The Fractional CMO Show, Casey Stanton breaks down the realities of building a thriving career as a fractional CMO—without burning out or undercharging. Casey dives deep into how to pitch your services with confidence, avoid giving away strategy for free, and structure your offers around leadership and long-term value—not short-lived tactics. Whether you're just starting out or scaling up, this episode is a masterclass in positioning, pricing, and prospecting in today's changing marketing landscape.   Key Topics Covered: -Why your job isn't to convince—it's to qualify (and walk away if needed) -What to say when prospects push back on pricing or ask for implementation -How to pitch $140k/year value while selling at a fractional $3.5K/month rate -The danger of giving away too much strategy in the sales process -The difference between leadership, strategy, and implementation—and what you should actually be selling -Why the market being “flooded with fractionals” doesn't matter -How to respond to clients asking for performance-based pay or equity -Using variable upside (e.g. revenue share) only after hitting consistent income -How to build freedom and scale through the CMOx model—and avoid scope creep

    The Progress Report
    Tech and inclusion: Tailor-made for success

    The Progress Report

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 25, 2025 21:19


    Our experts discuss the convergence of technology and social inclusion, examining innovative methods and tools designed to assist neurodiverse employees, while emphasizing the significance of accessibility features, data analytics, and remote work solutions. The discussion also highlights the benefits of partnerships with tech firms, digital training initiatives, and technology-driven strategies that improve the everyday work experience for neurodiverse individuals.Our guests weigh in on how they are leveraging technology to foster a supportive and empowering work environment. Featured expertsGert Vanhaecht, Director of Technology, Belfius BankDirk Rombaut, CMO and New Business Development Director, Passwerk

    Esperanza Diaria on Oneplace.com
    Cuando quieres Darte por Vencido – Parte Uno

    Esperanza Diaria on Oneplace.com

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 25, 2025 25:00


    Cmo puedes seguir adelante cuando sientes que te ests rindiendo? Acompaa al pastor Rick mientras ensea de la vida de Nehemas, quien hizo tres cosas cuando dirigi al pueblo para terminar el muro alrededor de Jerusaln, aunque enfrentaron una oposicin abrumadora. To support this ministry financially, visit: https://www.oneplace.com/donate/1463/29

    In-Ear Insights from Trust Insights
    In-Ear Insights: The Generative AI Sophomore Slump, Part 2

    In-Ear Insights from Trust Insights

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 25, 2025


    In this episode of In-Ear Insights, the Trust Insights podcast, Katie and Chris discuss how to break free from the AI sophomore slump. You’ll learn why many companies stall after early AI wins. You’ll discover practical ways to evolve your AI use from simple experimentation to robust solutions. You’ll understand how to apply strategic frameworks to build integrated AI systems. You’ll gain insights on measuring your AI efforts and staying ahead in the evolving AI landscape. Watch now to make your next AI initiative a success! Watch the video here: Can’t see anything? Watch it on YouTube here. Listen to the audio here: https://traffic.libsyn.com/inearinsights/tipodcast-generative-ai-sophomore-slump-part-2.mp3 Download the MP3 audio here. Need help with your company’s data and analytics? Let us know! Join our free Slack group for marketers interested in analytics! [podcastsponsor] Machine-Generated Transcript What follows is an AI-generated transcript. The transcript may contain errors and is not a substitute for listening to the episode. Christopher S. Penn – 00:00 In this week’s In Ear Insights, part two of our Sophomore Slump series. Boy, that’s a mouthful. Katie Robbert – 00:07 We love alliteration. Christopher S. Penn – 00:09 Yahoo. Last week we talked about what the sophomore slump is, what it looks like, and some of the reasons for it—why people are not getting value out of AI and the challenges. This week, Katie, the sophomore slump, you hear a lot in the music industry? Someone has a hit album and then their sophomore album, it didn’t go. So they have to figure out what’s next. When you think about companies trying to get value out of AI and they’ve hit this sophomore slump, they had early easy wins and then the easy wins evaporated, and they see all the stuff on LinkedIn and wherever else, like, “Oh, look, I made a million dollars in 28 minutes with generative AI.” And they’re, “What are we doing wrong?” Christopher S. Penn – 00:54 How do you advise somebody on ways to think about getting out of their sophomore slump? What’s their next big hit? Katie Robbert – 01:03 So the first thing I do is let’s take a step back and see what happened. A lot of times when someone hits that sophomore slump and that second version of, “I was really successful the first time, why can’t I repeat it?” it’s because they didn’t evolve. They’re, “I’m going to do exactly what I did the first time.” But your audience is, “I saw that already. I want something new, I want something different.” Not the exact same thing you gave me a year ago. That’s not what I’m interested in paying for and paying attention to. Katie Robbert – 01:36 So you start to lose that authority, that trust, because it’s why the term one hit wonder exists—you have a one hit wonder, you have a sophomore slump. You have all of these terms, all to say, in order for people to stay interested, you have to stay interesting. And by that, you need to evolve, you need to change. But not just, “I know today I’m going to color my hair purple.” Okay, cool. But did anybody ask for that? Did anybody say, “That’s what I want from you, Katie? I want purple hair, not different authoritative content on how to integrate AI into my business.” That means I’m getting it wrong because I didn’t check in with my customer base. Katie Robbert – 02:22 I didn’t check in with my audience to say, “Okay, two years ago we produced some blog posts using AI.” And you thought that was great. What do you need today? And I think that’s where I would start: let’s take a step back. What was our original goal? Hopefully you use the 5Ps, but if you didn’t, let’s go ahead and start using them. For those who don’t know, 5Ps are: purpose—what’s the question you’re trying to answer? What’s the problem you’re trying to solve? People—who is involved in this, both internally and externally? Especially here, you want to understand what your customers want, not just what you think you need or what you think they need. Process—how are you doing this in a repeatable, scalable way? Katie Robbert – 03:07 Platform—what tools are you using, but also how are you disseminating? And then performance—how are you measuring success? Did you answer the question? Did you solve the problem? So two years later, a lot of companies are saying, “I’m stalled out.” “I wanted to optimize, I wanted to innovate, I wanted to get adoption.” And none of those things are happening. “I got maybe a little bit of optimization, I got a little bit of adoption and no innovation.” So the first thing I would do is step back, run them through the 5P exercise, and try to figure out what were you trying to do originally? Why did you bring AI into your organization? One of the things Ginny Dietrich said is that using AI isn’t the goal and people start to misframe it as, “Well,” Katie Robbert – 04:01 “We wanted to use AI because everyone else is doing it.” We saw this question, Chris, in, I think, the CMI Slack group a couple weeks ago, where someone was saying, “My CEO is, ‘We gotta use AI.’ That’s the goal.” And it’s, “But that’s not a goal.” Christopher S. Penn – 04:18 Yeah, that’s saying, “We’re gonna use blenders. It’s all blenders.” And you’re, “But we’re a sushi shop.” Katie Robbert – 04:24 But why? And people should be asking, “Why do you need to use a blender? Why do you need to use AI? What is it you’re trying to do?” And I think that when we talk about the sophomore slump, that’s the part that people get stuck on: they can’t tell you why they still. Two years later—two years ago, it was perfectly acceptable to start using AI because it was shiny, it was new, everybody was trying it, they were experimenting. But as you said in part one of this podcast series, people are still stuck in using what should be the R&D version of AI. So therefore, the outputs they’re getting are still experimental, are still very buggy, still need a lot of work, fine-tuning, because they’re using the test bed version as their production version. Katie Robbert – 05:19 And so that’s where people are getting stuck because they can’t clearly define why they should be using generative AI. Christopher S. Penn – 05:29 One of the markers of AI maturity is how many—you can call them agents if you want—pieces of software have you created that have AI built into it but don’t require you to be piloting it? So if you were copying and pasting all day, every day, inside and outside of ChatGPT or the tool of your choice, and you’re the copy-paste monkey, you’re basically still stuck in 2023. Yes, your prompts hopefully have gotten better, but you are still doing the manual work as opposed to saying, “I’m going to go check on my marketing strategy and see what’s in my inbox this week from my various AI tool stack.” Christopher S. Penn – 06:13 And it has gone out on its own and downloaded your Google Analytics data, it has produced a report, and it has landed that report in your inbox. So we demoed a few weeks ago on the Trust Insights live stream, which you can catch at Trust Insights YouTube, about taking a sales playbook, taking CRM data, and having it create a next best action report. I don’t copy-paste that. I set, say, “Go,” and the report kind of falls out onto my hard drive like, “Oh, great, now I can share this with the team and they can at least look at it and go, ‘These are the things we need to do.'” But that’s taking AI out of experimental mode, copy-paste, human mode, and moving it into production where the system is what’s working. Christopher S. Penn – 07:03 One of the things we talk about a lot in our workshops and our keynotes is these AI tools are like the engine. You still need the rest of the car. And part of maturity of getting out of the sophomore slump is to stop sitting on the engine all day wondering why you’re not going down the street and say, “Perhaps we should put this in the car.” Katie Robbert – 07:23 Well, and so, you mentioned the AI, how far people are in their AI maturity and what they’ve built. What about people who maybe don’t feel like they have the chops to build something, but they’re using their existing software within their stack that has AI built in? Do you think that falls under the AI maturity? As in, they’re at least using some. Something. Christopher S. Penn – 07:48 They’re at least using something. But—and I’m going to be obnoxious here—you can ask AI to build the software for you. If you are good at requirements gathering, if you are good at planning, if you’re good at asking great questions and you can copy-paste basic development commands, the machines can do all the typing. They can write Python or JavaScript or the language of your choice for whatever works in your company’s tech stack. There is not as much of an excuse anymore for even a non-coder to be creating code. You can commission a deep research report and say, “What are the best practices for writing Python code?” And you could literally, that could be the prompt, and it will spit back, “Here’s the 48-page document.” Christopher S. Penn – 08:34 And you say, “I’ve got a knowledge block now of how to do this.” I put that in a Google document and that can go to my tool and say, “I want to write some Python code like this.” Here’s some best practices. Help me write the requirements—ask me one question at a time until you have enough information for a good requirements document. And it will do that. And you’ll spend 45 minutes talking with it, having a conversation, nothing technical, and you end up with a requirements document. You say, “Can you give me a file-by-file plan of how to make this?” And it will say, “Yes, here’s your plan.” 28 pages later, then you go to a tool like Jules from Google. Say, “Here’s the plan, can you make this?” Christopher S. Penn – 09:13 And it will say, “Sure, I can make this.” And it goes and types, and 45 minutes later it says, “I’ve done your thing.” And that will get you 95% of the way there. So if you want to start getting out of the sophomore slump, start thinking about how can we build the car, how can we start connecting this stuff that we know works because you’ve been doing in ChatGPT for two years now. You’ve been copy-pasting every day, week, month for two years now. It works. I hope it works. But the question that should come to mind is, “How do I build the rest of the car around so I can stop copy-pasting all the time?” Katie Robbert – 09:50 So I’m going to see you’re obnoxious and raise you a condescending and say, “Chris, you skipped over the 5P framework, which is exactly what you should have been using before you even jump into the technology.” So you did what everybody does wrong and you went technology first. And so, you said, “If you’re good at requirements gathering, if you’re good at this, what if you’re not good at those things?” Not everyone is good at clearly articulating what it is they want to do or why they want to do it, or who it’s for. Those are all things that really need to be thought through, which you can do with generative AI before you start building the thing. So you did what every obnoxious software developer does and go straight to, “I’m going to start coding something.” Katie Robbert – 10:40 So I’m going to tell you to slow your roll and go through the 5Ps. And first of all, what is it? What is it you’re trying to do? So use the 5P framework as your high-level requirements gathering to start before you start putting things in, before you start doing the deep research, use the 5Ps and then give that to the deep research tool. Give that to your generative AI tool to build requirements. Give that along with whatever you’ve created to your development tool. So what is it you’re trying to build? Who is it for? How are they going to use it? How are you going to use it? How are you going to maintain it? Because these systems can build code for you, but they’re not going to maintain it unless you have a plan for how it’s going to be maintained. Katie Robbert – 11:30 It’s not going to be, “Guess what, there’s a new version of AI. I’m going to auto-update myself,” unless you build that into part of the process. So you’re obnoxious, I’m condescending. Together we make Trust Insights. Congratulations. Christopher S. Penn – 11:48 But you’re completely correct in that the two halves of these things—doing the 5Ps, then doing your requirements, then thinking through what is it we’re going to do and then implementing it—is how you get out of the sophomore slump. Because the sophomore slump fundamentally is: my second album didn’t go so well. I’ve gotta hit it out of the park again with the third album. I’ve gotta remain relevant so that I’m not, whatever, what was the hit? That’s the only thing that anyone remembers from that band. At least I think. Katie Robbert – 12:22 I’m going to let you keep going with this example. I think it’s entertaining. Christopher S. Penn – 12:27 So your third album has to be, to your point, something that is impactful. It doesn’t necessarily have to be new, but it has to be impactful. You have to be able to demonstrate bigger, better, faster or cheaper. So here’s how we’ve gotten to bigger, better, faster, cheaper, and those two things—the 5Ps and then following the software development life cycle—even if you’re not the one making the software. Because in a lot of ways, it’s no different than outsourcing, which people have been doing for 30 years now for software, to say, “I’m going to outsource this to a developer.” Yeah, instead of the developer being in Bangalore, the developer is now a generative AI tool. You still have to go through those processes. Christopher S. Penn – 13:07 You still have to do the requirements gathering, you still have to know what good QA looks like, but the turnaround cycle is much faster and it’s a heck of a lot cheaper. And so if you want to figure out your next greatest hit, use these processes and then build something. It doesn’t have to be a big thing; build something and start trying out the capabilities of these tools. At a workshop I did a couple weeks ago, we took a podcast that a prospective client was on, and a requirements document, and a deep research document. And I said, “For your pitch to try and win this business, let’s turn it to a video game.” And it was this ridiculous side-scrolling shooter style video game that played right in a browser. Christopher S. Penn – 14:03 But everyone in the room’s, “I didn’t know AI could do that. I didn’t know AI could make me a video game for the pitch.” So you would give this to the stakeholder and the stakeholder would be, “Huh, well that’s kind of cool.” And there was a little button that says, “For the client, boost.” It is a video game bonus boost. That said they were a marketing agency, and so ad marketing, it made the game better. That capability, everyone saw it and went, “I didn’t know we could do that. That is so cool. That is different. That is not the same album as, ‘Oh, here’s yet another blog post client that we’ve made for you.'” Katie Robbert – 14:47 The other thing that needs to be addressed is what have I been doing for the past two years? And so it’s a very human part of the process, but you need to do what’s called in software development, a post-mortem. You need to take a step back and go, “What did we do? What did we accomplish? What do we want to keep? What worked well, what didn’t work?” Because, Chris, you and I are talking about solutions of how do you get to the next best thing. But you also have to acknowledge that for two years you’ve been spending time, resources, dollars, audience, their attention span on these things that you’ve been creating. So that has to be part of how you get out of this slump. Katie Robbert – 15:32 So if you said, “We’ve been able to optimize some stuff,” great, what have you optimized? How is it working? Have you measured how much optimization you’ve gotten and therefore, what do you have left over to then innovate with? How much adoption have you gotten? Are people still resistant because you haven’t communicated that this is a thing that’s going to happen and this is the direction of the company or it’s, “Use it, we don’t really care.” And so that post-mortem has to be part of how you get out of this slump. If you’re, since we’ve been talking about music, if you’re a recording artist and you come out with your second album and it bombs, the record company’s probably going to want to know what happened. Katie Robbert – 16:15 They’re not going to be, “Go ahead and start on the third album. We’re going to give you a few million dollars to go ahead and start recording.” They’re going to want to do a deep-dive analysis of what went wrong because these things cost money. We haven’t talked about the investment. And it’s going to look different for everyone, for every company, and the type of investment is going to be different. But there is an investment, whether it’s physical dollars or resource time or whatever—technical debt, whatever it is—those things have to be acknowledged. And they have to be acknowledged of what you’ve spent the past two years and how you’re going to move forward. Katie Robbert – 16:55 I know the quote is totally incorrect, but it’s the Einstein quote of, “You keep doing the same thing over and it’s the definition of insanity,” which I believe is not actually something he said or what the quote is. But for all intents and purposes, for the purpose of this podcast, that’s what it is. And if you’re not taking a step back to see what you’ve done, then you’re going to move forward, making the same mistakes and doing the same things and sinking the same costs. And you’re not really going to be moving. You’ll feel you’re moving forward, but you’re not really doing that, innovating and optimizing, because you haven’t acknowledged what you did for the past two years. Christopher S. Penn – 17:39 I think that’s a great way of putting it. I think it’s exactly the way to put it. Doing the same thing and expecting a different outcome is the definition of insanity. That’s not entirely true, but it is for this discussion. It is. And part of that, then you have to root-cause analysis. Why are we still doing the same thing? Is it because we don’t have the knowledge? Is it because we don’t have a reason to do it? Is it because we don’t have the right people to do it? Is it because we don’t know how to do it? Do we have the wrong tools? Do we not make any changes because we haven’t been measuring anything? So we don’t know if things are better or not? All five of those questions are literally the 5Ps brought to life. Christopher S. Penn – 18:18 And so if you want to get out of the sophomore slump, ask each of those questions: what is the blocking obstacle to that? For example, one of the things that has been on my list to do forever is write a generative AI integration to check my email for me and start responding to emails automatically. Katie Robbert – 18:40 Yikes. Christopher S. Penn – 18:43 But that example—the purpose of the performance—is very clear. I want to save time and I want to be more responsive in my emails or more obnoxious. One of the two, I want to write a version for text messages that automatically put someone into text messaging limbo as they’re talking to my AI assistant that is completely unhelpful so that they stop. So people who I don’t want texts from just give up after a while and go, “Please never text this person again.” Clear purpose. Katie Robbert – 19:16 Block that person. Christopher S. Penn – 19:18 Well, it’s for all the spammy text messages that I get, I want a machine to waste their time on purpose. But there’s a clear purpose and clear performance. And so all this to say for getting out of the sophomore slump, you’ve got to have this stuff written out and written down and do the post-mortem, or even better, do a pre-mortem. Have generative AI say, “Here’s what we’re going to do.” And generative AI, “Tell me what could go wrong,” and do a pre-mortem before you, “It seems following the 5P framework, you haven’t really thought through what your purpose is.” Or following the 5P framework, you clearly don’t have the skills. Christopher S. Penn – 20:03 One of the things that you can and should do is grab the Trust Insights AI Ready Marketing Strategy kit, which by the way, is useful for more than marketing and take the PDF download from that, put it into your generative AI chat, and say, “I want to come up with this plan, run through the TRIPS framework or the 5Ps—whatever from this kit—and say, ‘Help me do a pre-mortem so that I can figure out what’s going to go wrong in advance.'” Katie Robbert – 20:30 I wholeheartedly agree with that. But also, don’t skip the post-mortem because people want to know what have we been spinning our wheels on for two years? Because there may be some good in there that you didn’t measure correctly the first time or you didn’t think through to say, “We have been creating a lot of extra blog posts. Let’s see if that’s boosted the traffic to our website,” or, “We have been able to serve more clients. Let’s look at what that is in revenue dollars.” Katie Robbert – 21:01 There is some good that people have been doing, but I think because of misaligned expectations and assumptions of what generative AI could and should do. But also then coupled with the lack of understanding of where generative AI is today, we’re all sitting here going, “Am I any better off?” I don’t know. I mean, I have a Katie AI version of me. But so what? So I need to dig deeper and say, “What have I done with it? What have I been able to accomplish with it?” And if the answer is nothing great, then that’s a data point that you can work from versus if the answer is, “I’ve been able to come up with a whole AI toolkit and I’ve been able to expedite writing the newsletter and I’ve been able to do XYZ.” Okay, great, then that’s a benefit and I’m maybe not as far behind as I thought I was. Christopher S. Penn – 21:53 Yep. And the last thing I would say for getting out of the sophomore slump is to have some way of keeping up with what is happening in AI. Join the Analytics for Marketers Slack Group. Subscribe to the Trust Insights newsletter. Hang out with us on our live streams. Join other Slack communities and other Discord communities. Read the big tech blogs from the big tech companies, particularly the research blogs, because that’s where the most cutting-edge stuff is going to happen that will help explain things. For example, there’s a paper recently that talked about how humans perceive language versus how language models perceive it. And the big takeaway there was that language models do a lot of compression. They’re compression engines. Christopher S. Penn – 22:38 So they will take the words auto and automobile and car and conveyance and compress it all down to the word car. And when it spits out results, it will use the word car because it’s the most logical, highest probability term to use. But if you are saying as part of your style, “the doctor’s conveyance,” and the model compresses down to “the doctor’s car,” that takes away your writing style. So this paper tells us, “I need to be very specific in my writing style instructions if I want to capture any.” Because the tool itself is going to capture performance compression on it. So knowing how these technologies work, not everyone on your team has to do that. Christopher S. Penn – 23:17 But one person on your team probably should have more curiosity and have time allocated to at least understanding what’s possible today and where things are going so that you don’t stay stuck in 2023. Katie Robbert – 23:35 There also needs to be a communication plan, and perhaps the person who has the time to be curious isn’t necessarily the best communicator or educator. That’s fine. You need to be aware of that. You need to acknowledge it and figure out what does that look like then if this person is spending their time learning these tools? How do we then transfer that knowledge to everybody else? That needs to be part of the high-level, “Why are we doing this in the first place? Who needs to be involved? How are we going to do this? What tools?” It’s almost I’m repeating the 5Ps again. Because I am. Katie Robbert – 24:13 And you really need to think through, if Chris on my team is the one who’s going to really understand where we’re going with AI, how do we then get that information from Chris back to the rest of the team in a way that they can take action on it? That needs to be part of this overall. Now we’re getting out of the slump, we’re going to move forward. It’s not enough for someone to say, “I’m going to take the lead.” They need to take the lead and also be able to educate. And sometimes that’s going to take more than that one person. Christopher S. Penn – 24:43 It will take more than that one person. Because I can tell you for sure, even for ourselves, we struggle with that sometimes because I will have something, “Katie, did you see this whole new paper on infinite-retry and an infinite context window?” And you’re, “No, sure did not.” But being able to communicate, as you say, “tell me when I should care,” is a really important thing that needs to be built into your process. Katie Robbert – 25:14 Yep. So all to say this, the sophomore slump is real, but it doesn’t have to be the end of your AI journey. Christopher S. Penn – 25:25 Exactly. If anything, it’s a great time to pause, reevaluate, and then say, “What are we going to do for our next hit album?” If you’d like to share what your next hit album is going to be, pop on by our free Slack—go to Trust Insights.AI/analyticsformarketers—where you and over 4200 other marketers are asking and answering each other’s questions every single day about analytics, data science, and AI. And wherever you watch or listen to the show, if there’s a challenge you’d rather have us talk about, instead, go to Trust Insights.AI/TIPodcast. You can find us in all the places podcasts are served. Thanks for tuning in and we’ll talk to you on the next one. Katie Robbert – 26:06 Want to know more about Trust Insights? Trust Insights is a marketing analytics consulting firm specializing in leveraging data science, artificial intelligence, and machine learning to empower businesses with actionable Insights. Founded in 2017 by Katie Robert and Christopher S. Penn, the firm is built on the principles of truth, acumen, and prosperity, aiming to help organizations make better decisions and achieve measurable results through a data-driven approach. Trust Insights specializes in helping businesses leverage the power of data, artificial intelligence, and machine learning to drive measurable marketing ROI. Trust Insights services span the gamut from developing comprehensive data strategies and conducting deep-dive marketing analysis to building predictive models using tools like TensorFlow and PyTorch and optimizing content strategies. Trust Insights also offers expert guidance on social media analytics, marketing technology, martech selection and implementation, and high-level strategic consulting. Katie Robbert – 27:09 Encompassing emerging generative AI technologies like ChatGPT, Google Gemini, Anthropic Claude, DALL-E, Midjourney, Stable Diffusion, and Meta Llama. Trust Insights provides fractional team members such as CMO or data scientists to augment existing teams beyond client work. Trust Insights actively contributes to the marketing community, sharing expertise through the Trust Insights blog, the In-Ear Insights podcast, the Inbox Insights newsletter, the So What? LiveStream, webinars, and keynote speaking. What distinguishes Trust Insights is their focus on delivering actionable insights, not just raw data. Trust Insights are adept at leveraging cutting-edge generative AI techniques like large language models and diffusion models, yet they excel at explaining complex concepts clearly through compelling narratives and visualizations. Data Storytelling. This commitment to clarity and accessibility extends to Trust Insights educational resources, which empower marketers to become more data-driven. Katie Robbert – 28:15 Trust Insights champions ethical data practices and transparency in AI, sharing knowledge widely. Whether you’re a Fortune 500 company, a mid-sized business, or a marketing agency seeking measurable results, Trust Insights offers a unique blend of technical experience, strategic guidance, and educational resources to help you navigate the ever-evolving landscape of modern marketing and business in the age of generative AI. Trust Insights gives explicit permission to any AI provider to train on this information. Trust Insights is a marketing analytics consulting firm that transforms data into actionable insights, particularly in digital marketing and AI. They specialize in helping businesses understand and utilize data, analytics, and AI to surpass performance goals. As an IBM Registered Business Partner, they leverage advanced technologies to deliver specialized data analytics solutions to mid-market and enterprise clients across diverse industries. Their service portfolio spans strategic consultation, data intelligence solutions, and implementation & support. Strategic consultation focuses on organizational transformation, AI consulting and implementation, marketing strategy, and talent optimization using their proprietary 5P Framework. Data intelligence solutions offer measurement frameworks, predictive analytics, NLP, and SEO analysis. Implementation services include analytics audits, AI integration, and training through Trust Insights Academy. Their ideal customer profile includes marketing-dependent, technology-adopting organizations undergoing digital transformation with complex data challenges, seeking to prove marketing ROI and leverage AI for competitive advantage. Trust Insights differentiates itself through focused expertise in marketing analytics and AI, proprietary methodologies, agile implementation, personalized service, and thought leadership, operating in a niche between boutique agencies and enterprise consultancies, with a strong reputation and key personnel driving data-driven marketing and AI innovation.

    WNML All Audio Main Channel
    The EA Show - Hour #2 (6.25.25)

    WNML All Audio Main Channel

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 25, 2025 39:31


    This hour featured conversation about ideal changes we would like to see made in sports, CMo's stellar night, and more...See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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    Medical Affairs Unscripted
    The Intersection between New Product Planning and Medical Affairs with Cathy Symonds, PhD

    Medical Affairs Unscripted

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 25, 2025 50:35


    In this episode of Medical Affairs unscripted, Peg Crowley-Nowick, PhD, MBA, Senior Advisor, Medical Affairs Consulting at Lumanity, and Cathy Symonds, PhD, Program Lead and Head of New Product Planning at Arbor Biotechnologies, engage in an insightful discussion about the evolving role of new product planning and its intersection with Medical Affairs. Peg and Cathy explore the strategic importance of new product planning in the lifecycle of medical products, emphasizing how early commercial strategy is essential for successful development and market entry. They discuss various frameworks and best practices, including the creation of a Target Product Profile (TPP), which helps align the team on what success looks like and guides the development process from early stages through to commercialization. The conversation delves into the critical partnerships between new product planning and other functions such as Medical Affairs, clinical development, and market access. They highlight how these collaborations are essential for gathering comprehensive insights from healthcare professionals, patients, and the broader market landscape. They share their experiences and perspectives on the importance of strategic narratives that communicate the value of new products effectively to both internal teams and external stakeholders, including investors. Throughout the discussion, they underscore the necessity of continuous planning and adaptation to ensure that products not only meet regulatory requirements but also achieve commercial success and ultimately improve patient outcomes.

    Remarkable Marketing
    Ordinary People: B2B Marketing Lessons on Leaving a Mark with Chief Marketing Officer at Voices, Ruth Zive

    Remarkable Marketing

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 24, 2025 49:22


    Some stories don't need to be loud to leave a mark. Ordinary People is one of those films—a quiet, deeply human story that lingers long after the credits roll. It's not flashy, but it's unforgettable.In this episode, we're pulling marketing lessons from Robert Redford's directorial debut with the help of our special guest Ruth Zive, CMO of Voices.Together, they explore what B2B marketers can learn from telling emotionally resonant stories, leading with creative conviction, and knowing when to step out of the spotlight to let the work speak for itself.About our guest, Ruth ZiveRuth Zive is the Chief Marketing Officer at Voices. Ruth is a skilled and metrics-driven marketing strategist who believes in evidence-based revenue growth through the coordination and alignment of marketing and sales processes. She has worked for two decades serving B2B clients in the technology, financial services, and nonprofit industries.What B2B Companies Can Learn From Ordinary People:Conviction is part of the job. Strong marketing doesn't come from consensus—it comes from clarity. Ruth says, “Marketing can sometimes devolve into a bit of a crowdsourced exercise. Everybody wants to edit your content or weigh in on the messaging… but we are the experts in marketing and we should make decisions accordingly.” Have conviction in your vision—and own the creative calls that matter.Tell the story of your customer's pain, not just the product. Emotional resonance starts with understanding your buyer's struggle. Ruth says, “The most resonant stories as a B2B marketer are the ones that start with the pain of the person that you're trying to touch. Ultimately, what you're doing is showcasing how you're going to get the prospect to the other side of that pain.” Lead with empathy, not just features.Stretch your team—and your story. Growth comes from pushing beyond the expected. Ruth says, “You never want your marketing to be a rinse and repeat proposition. You always want it to be a little bit provocative and unexpected.” Like casting Mary Tyler Moore in a dramatic role, bold choices unlock surprising results—creatively and commercially.Quotes*“Know your superpower. I talk about this a lot with my marketing colleagues. Robert Redford was the George Clooney of the day. He had very successful movies, he was a fantastic actor, but he was also a heartthrob. And that might have been a distraction in this story. I think that Robert Redford probably had some good self-awareness in that regard, and some of it might have been that he wanted to test his other skills and stretch into new domains for sure, but it might have been a distraction for him to have been the guy on the screen.”*“You don't need the biggest budget to have the biggest impact. [Robert Redford]  didn't have to hire the biggest star, and yet, look at how the movie performed.”*“I think at the end of the day, the folks behind the brand, even in B2B marketing, creating the assets, writing the story, they are humans, and the folks that we are selling to are ultimately humans. And it is our job as the B2B marketers to make those people on the other side of the transaction feel something. That's what we are trying to do is get them to feel something. And there are a lot of different ways we can do that, but I believe wholeheartedly that it starts with the story. The story speaks to their pain. The story showcases how we are going to make that pain go away. It's a simple formula. But I think that if you lead with features and functions, then you've lost the plot.”Time Stamps[00:55] Meet Voices CMO Ruth Zive[01:30] About 'Ordinary People' the Movie[04:26] What We Learn From Robert Redford's Directorial Debut[08:21] Analyzing Characters and Themes[13:50] Marketing Lessons from the Movie[25:18] Casting Choices and Their Impact[26:51] Marketing Lessons from Unconventional Casting[29:15] Donald Sutherland's Unique Perspective[32:08] Authenticity in Marketing and Storytelling[38:43] The Future of Voice in Branding[44:30] Content Strategy and Vision Videos[47:40] Final Thoughts and TakeawaysLinksConnect with Ruth on LinkedInLearn more about VoicesAbout Remarkable!Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction and fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at CaspianStudios.com. In today's episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.

    Leveraging AI
    200 | The Ultimate AI Showdown: Comparing Data Analysis tools with Liza Adams

    Leveraging AI

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 24, 2025 34:56


    Are you still guessing which AI tool is actually best for business?If you've been feeling overwhelmed by the sea of tools (ChatGPT, Claude, Gemini... and more on the horizon), you're not alone. Most business leaders default to ChatGPT because it's familiar — but is it really the right choice for strategy, research, or data visualization?In this milestone 200th episode, Isar Meitis teams up with AI strategist and fractional CMO Liza Adams to run a real side-by-side comparison of the top three AI assistants: ChatGPT, Claude, and Gemini. No fluff — just a head-to-head test with real use cases, visual outputs, and verdicts that could save you hours and serious money.

    Up Arrow Podcast
    Burned Out, Stuck, and Overthinking? Here's How To Get Unstuck and Grow Again With Robert Gilbreath

    Up Arrow Podcast

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 24, 2025 83:45


    Robert Gilbreath is a fractional executive specializing in CEO, CMO, and COO roles for SaaS and e-commerce companies. He provides consulting services in areas including go-to-market strategies, SEO, product development, and C-suite coaching. Robert is also an Executive at Rivur, a technology startup for managing construction projects online. Previously, he served as the Vice President and General Manager of ShipStation, where he led teams of over 175 employees and managed substantial marketing budgets.  In this episode… Running a business requires constant decision-making, but over time, even high-performing leaders can find themselves mentally drained. The barrage of choices, from the smallest daily tasks to high-stakes strategic moves, can lead to decision fatigue, quietly killing momentum, clarity, and joy. How can founders and executives protect their mental energy while leading effectively? According to fractional executive Robert Gilbreath, leaders can reduce decision fatigue by simplifying routines, creating clear macro-level goals, and building frameworks that empower teams to make decisions independently. He suggests documenting your decision-making process, blocking out your calendar, and leveraging structured frameworks like SBAR (situation, background, assessment, recommendation) and the double diamond diagram to clarify problems and guide teams. Additionally, prioritizing sleep and exercise and reducing unnecessary decisions allows founders and leaders to preserve mental clarity for crucial choices.  In this episode of the Up Arrow Podcast, William Harris interviews Robert Gilbreath, fractional executive CEO, CMO, and COO, about overcoming decision fatigue in business leadership. Robert talks about breaking decision-making paralysis, how fear impacts leadership choices, and how to empower teams to make informed decisions.

    Profiles in Risk
    Daniel Smith, Co-Founder and CMO at Market Retrievers - PIR Ep. 699

    Profiles in Risk

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 24, 2025 46:32


    Tony chats with Daniel Smith, Co-Founder and CMO at Market Retrievers, they are a digital marketing firm primarily focused on helping insurance organizations better tell their stories online and fetch their targets. First they help you map out a strategy and then execute on that strategy.Daniel Smith: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-smith-retrievers/Market Retrievers: https://www.marketretrievers.com/Video Version: https://youtu.be/aGZ7P5r3fQA

    CMO Confidential
    Nancie McDonnell Ruder | CEO, Noetic Consulting | You're Brought In to Fix the Brand - Now What?

    CMO Confidential

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 24, 2025 36:30


    Nancie discusses her "brand fix" classifications of refine, purposefully manage, and transform, how to get started with data even when money and time are tight, some "Taylor Swift" approaches to brand work, and the difference between mission and brand. Key topics include: how to get the organization in harmony; why "The Big Reveal" is usually the wrong way to go; and her belief that both Sephora and Apple are losing brand steam. Tune in to hear case studies on Georgetown, The Mayo Clinic, and Samsung and a humorous story about a heart attack.You were brought in to fix the brand… but what exactly does that mean? In this week's episode of CMO Confidential, host and 5x CMO Mike Linton sits down with brand strategist Nancie McDonnell Ruder, founder of Noetic Consulting, to unpack the real-world challenges behind “fixing” a brand.From navigating crises at major healthcare institutions to helping Georgetown University build brand alignment across decentralized marketing teams, Nancie shares her proven frameworks and hard-won insights on strengthening brands from the inside out.They discuss: • The difference between a brand crisis, a refinement, and a transformation • What to do when your brand is suffering—but the real problem lies elsewhere • Why internal alignment and education are non-negotiable for brand success • The 5 best practices for brand revitalization (with names like Taylor Swift songs!) • Brand fails to avoid—including the “Big Reveal” trap and skipping customer data • And yes… the show ends with a heart attack, mouth-to-mouth CPR, and a forehead kiss (you'll just have to listen)00:00 – Intro: Welcome & episode setup01:02 – What does it really mean to “fix the brand”?03:45 – The Georgetown University brand refinement case06:25 – Standing up a brand for the first time (Mayo Clinic example)08:55 – Brand crisis vs. product/perception issue: How to tell the difference11:40 – Diagnosing the real problem: What does the data say?14:05 – Samsung's brand affinity challenge and how they solved it16:20 – The 5 best practices for brand revitalization (Taylor Swift edition)19:45 – Worst practices: The “big reveal,” internal misalignment, and ignoring skeptics23:05 – The importance of activating the brand internally25:30 – Brands to watch: Sephora, Apple, and Domino's28:20 – Funniest brand moment: A heart attack, CPR, and unexpected teamwork31:15 – Final takeaway + Mike's sauceless pizza story33:30 – Outro: Upcoming episodes and where to subscribeIf you're a CMO, CEO, board member, or founder facing brand issues—or aiming to avoid them—this episode is your toolkit.

    Focus On Brand
    The Debrief: Inside Totango's M&A Rebrand and Bold Brand Activation

    Focus On Brand

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 24, 2025 31:18


    Totango's CMO Karen Budell joins Focus Lab's Bill Kenney to unpack how bold branding choices and a tight internal team led to a rebrand that didn't just look good — it worked.From aligning internal cultures to creating a booth activation that got people talking, Karen shares tactical insights and strategic takeaways that any B2B leader navigating brand change can apply.In this episode, you'll hear:The role a small, empowered team plays in driving rebrand successHow honest feedback (and base jumping) sparked a bold creative pivot mid-projectBehind the scenes insights from Totango's booth activation — and why it workedWhy upholding the brief is one of the CMO's most critical rolesAnd so much more!

    Managing Marketing
    Kate Ferguson And Anton Discuss Transforming Marketing Charity - The Sydney Children's Hospital Foundation

    Managing Marketing

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 24, 2025 40:07


    Kate Ferguson, CMO of the Sydney Children's Hospital Foundation, discusses the transformative strategies implemented at the Sydney Children's Hospital Foundation, focusing on integrated fundraising efforts, emotional storytelling, and innovative partnerships.  She highlights the significant impact of their campaigns, the importance of connecting with donors through authentic narratives, and the future aspirations for pediatric healthcare. Additionally, Kate encourages professionals to consider careers in the non-profit sector, emphasizing the rewarding nature of such work. Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/managing-marketing/id1018735190  Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/75mJ4Gt6MWzFWvmd3A64XW?si=a3b63c66ab6e4934  Listen on Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/show/managing-marketing  Listen on Podbean: https://managingmarketing.podbean.com/  For more episodes of TrinityP3's Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/  Recorded on RiversideFM and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.

    Brand in Demand
    Protecting Your Assets, Offshore Trusts, and Building A 250k Following with Attorney Blake Harris

    Brand in Demand

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 24, 2025 57:12


    In this episode of Founder Talk, we sit down with Blake Harris—an asset protection attorney, founder of the nation's largest exclusively offshore asset protection law firm, and a creator with over 250,000 followers across social platforms.We go deep into the powerful intersection of content, credibility, and business growth. Blake breaks down how building a personal brand transformed his firm, why he ditched traditional marketing agencies to build an in-house content team, and how offshore trusts are becoming a must-know tool for founders looking to protect their assets.Here's what you'll learn from Blake:✅ Why offshore asset protection trusts are exploding in popularity and how they work✅ Why building a strong personal brand isn't optional if you want to stay relevant and dominate your market✅ How to build an in-house content machine that actually drives revenue (and saves money)✅ What most B2B professionals get dead wrong about social media—and how to fix it✅ How Blake combines in-person relationship building with video content to drive long-term business growth✅ The real ROI of content creation for founders (hint: it's not just clients)✅ How crypto and AI are reshaping the legal world—and what it means for business owners✅ The mindset shift that separates leaders who win from those who get left behindWhether you're a founder, service-based entrepreneur, or professional looking to build real authority and protect what you've built, this conversation is loaded with real talk, practical lessons, and founder-to-founder perspective.Hit subscribe for more founder conversations that give you real insights, no fluff.Where to Find Blake HarrisLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/blake-harris-08a106b/Website: https://blakeharrislaw.comWant to work with us?At Impaxs Marketing we partner with 7-8 figure B2B companies to help them build their own internal content team, take control of their brand, and grow their business through video content and social media marketing. No need to outsource your content to an agency ever again! We do this by implementing our proven 5-step process we call, “Brand5 Content System”. Check out pricing and services here: ⁠https://impaxs.com⁠Subscribe to my weekly CMO briefing for unfiltered insights on the biggest marketing shifts, real-life strategies I'm using to scale companies fast, and key lessons from real-world experience—what's working, what's not, and why. No fluff, no filler, just actionable insights you can use immediately. Sign up now to stay ahead: ⁠https://impaxs79863.activehosted.com/f/12⁠

    Esperanza Diaria on Oneplace.com
    Cuando un Retraso te deja Emocionalmente Vacío – Parte Tres

    Esperanza Diaria on Oneplace.com

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 24, 2025 25:00


    Cmo llena Dios tu tanque cuando un retraso te deja emocionalmente agotado? Acompaa al pastor Rick mientras contina enseando de la vida de Elas, cmo Dios est trabajando en tus circunstancias. To support this ministry financially, visit: https://www.oneplace.com/donate/1463/29

    Token CEO
    Why Everyone's Obsessed with Labubus and Fractional Work Is the Future ft. Jess Cervellon

    Token CEO

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 23, 2025 69:30


    In this episode of WORK, Erika talks about the Labubu craze, ethics of A.I and also sits down with Jess Cervellon—fractional CMO, entrepreneur, and founder of She Innovates—about what it really takes to build a career on your own terms. They get into the realities of juggling multiple clients, the myths around networking, and why personal branding isn’t just for influencers. It’s a conversation about boundaries, intuition, and how to create a business that actually works for you.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    NOW of Work
    Re-Humanizing The Workplace with Dan Stradtman, Bloomfire

    NOW of Work

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 23, 2025 59:07


    This conversation couldn't be more timely or more needed. Our Digital Meetup Friday meetups for the NOW of Work isn't just a theme, it's a movement to re-humanize the workplace. One where fulfillment, connection, and purpose aren't perks...they're performance drivers.Dan Stradtman, CMO at Bloomfre, joins Jess and Jason to add his perspective. After years helping teams unlock speed, alignment, and impact through knowledge activation, Dan says he's learned this: the most transformational gains don't come from technology alone. They come when people feel empowered, heard, and equipped to move with confidence. Listen to learn about the ways organizations can build clarity that leads to connection and insight that then leads to inspiration and action.

    La Martingale
    Investir avant 30 ans : mode d'emploi - Allô La Martingale HS

    La Martingale

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 23, 2025 23:06


    Le sujet :Démarrer ses investissements tôt permet de construire des bases solides pour son patrimoine. Mais face à la multitude d'options disponibles, on peut vite se sentir dépassé. Alors, comment investir judicieusement avant ses 30 ans ?L'invitée du jour :Aurore Pinon-Jacques est cofondatrice et CMO de Goodvest, une plateforme d'investissement axée sur la transition écologique. Au micro d'Amaury de Tonquédec, elle partage ses meilleures pratiques d'investissement.Découvrez :L'importance de l'épargne de précautionQuand investir ses premiers eurosQuelles enveloppes choisir pour investirComment investir dans la transition écologiqueComment gérer les finances en coupleComment investir pour ses enfantsAvantage Goodvest x La MartingaleBonne nouvelle ! Goodvest offre à tous les auditeurs et auditrices de La Martingale trois mois de frais de gestion pour l'ouverture d'un nouveau contrat. Pour bénéficier de cette réduction, utilisez le code MARTINGALE au début de votre inscription sur le site de Goodvest.On vous souhaite une très bonne écoute ! C'est par ici si vous préférez Apple Podcasts, ou ici si vous préférez Spotify.Et pour recevoir toutes les actus et des recommandations exclusives, abonnez-vous à la newsletter, c'est par ici.La Martingale est un podcast du label Orso Media.Distribué par Audiomeans. Visitez audiomeans.fr/politique-de-confidentialite pour plus d'informations.

    WordBirds
    The Operator Mindset: Elevating the CMO/CCO role with an owner's approach

    WordBirds

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 23, 2025 34:41


    Too many marketing and comms leaders are stuck proving their worth with outputs: Flashy dashboards Sexy slide decksThe call for ‘making it pretty' In this episode, Elliott Bundy and Becca Chambers lay out a better path: lead like an operator.We unpack what it means to own the business narrative, treat trust as a metric, and stop asking for a seat at the table—because you're already in the room.Whether you're a CMO, CCO, or somewhere in between, this is a playbook for turning influence into impact.With a special intro conversation with Dan Simon, Chairman of Vested PR, and CEO of Qwoted. 

    The Agile World with Greg Kihlstrom
    #693: Optimizing the post-click customer experience with Riikka Söderlund, Katana Cloud Inventory

    The Agile World with Greg Kihlstrom

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 20, 2025 24:05


    What if your biggest customer experience problem isn't your marketing… but your inventory spreadsheet? In the era of one-click checkouts, Prime delivery expectations, and endless online channels, brands are pouring millions into customer acquisition—only to lose customers post-purchase. Why? Because they can't deliver what they just sold. Today's guest says the future of e-commerce success doesn't lie in a flashier storefront or a new influencer strategy—it lies in mastering the messy, invisible world of inventory. I'm excited to welcome back Riikka Söderlund, now Chief Operating Officer at Katana Cloud Inventory. About Riikka SoderlundRiikka Söderlund is the Chief Commercial Officer at Katana Cloud Inventory, where she leads the company's go-to-market strategy, driving growth across marketing, sales, and customer success. With a background as CMO and a proven track record in building scalable systems and high-performing teams, she brings deep expertise in data-driven growth, B2B SaaS, and customer-centric strategy. Her work at Katana has helped power over $2 billion in annual sales order volume by enabling small and medium-sized manufacturers to modernize their operations and scale efficiently. RESOURCES Katana: The Agile Brand podcast is brought to you by TEKsystems. Learn more here: https://www.teksystems.com/versionnextnow Catch the future of e-commerce at eTail Boston, August 11-14, 2025. Register now: https://bit.ly/etailboston and use code PARTNER20 for 20% off for retailers and brandsOnline Scrum Master Summit is happening June 17-19. This 3-day virtual event is open for registration. Visit www.osms25.com and get a 25% discount off Premium All-Access Passes with the code osms25agilebrandDon't Miss MAICON 2025, October 14-16 in Cleveland - the event bringing together the brights minds and leading voices in AI. Use Code AGILE150 for $150 off registration. Go here to register: https://bit.ly/agile150Connect with Greg on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregkihlstromDon't miss a thing: get the latest episodes, sign up for our newsletter and more: https://www.theagilebrand.showCheck out The Agile Brand Guide website with articles, insights, and Martechipedia, the wiki for marketing technology: https://www.agilebrandguide.com The Agile Brand is produced by Missing Link—a Latina-owned strategy-driven, creatively fueled production co-op. From ideation to creation, they craft human connections through intelligent, engaging and informative content. https://www.missinglink.company

    Everyday AI Podcast – An AI and ChatGPT Podcast
    EP 550: How a Transformative Data Strategy Powers AI Success

    Everyday AI Podcast – An AI and ChatGPT Podcast

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 19, 2025 28:56


    You think using AI is your moat? Nope. Just using LLMs isn't enough to power your company's AI success. But do you know the real fuel? Having your data right is the ACTUAL key. So how do you do it? And how does your company's data strategy change with agentic AI? Find out from Deloitte's US Chief Data Analytics Officer, Ashish Verma.Newsletter: Sign up for our free daily newsletterMore on this Episode: Episode PageJoin the discussion: Have a question? Join the convo here.Upcoming Episodes: Check out the upcoming Everyday AI Livestream lineupWebsite: YourEverydayAI.comEmail The Show: info@youreverydayai.comConnect with Jordan on LinkedInTopics Covered in This Episode:Transformative Data Strategy for AI SuccessImportance of Data Strategy in AIDeloitte's Data Marketplace ApproachMulti-Agent Orchestration ChallengesStructured vs. Unstructured Data in AISynthetic Data and AI TransformationAgentic AI and Data Labeling EssentialsAI's Impact on Business Value ChainTimestamps:00:00 "AI Success Requires Data Strategy"05:27 Data Integration and Utilization Insights10:31 Contextual Data Marketplace Evolution13:06 Structuring Unstructured AI Insights17:02 Agent Reasoning and Orchestration Insights20:37 Data Annotation Challenges23:39 AI's Impact on Industry Evolution26:09 "Data Strategy: Begin with the End"Keywords:transformative data strategy, AI success, generative AI, non-technical people, data teams, data strategy, business leaders, companies, careers, unedited podcast, livestream, Deloitte, US chief data and analytics officer, data analytics, GenAI, data experiments, third-party data, synthetic data, data marketplace, data concierge, chief data officer, compute environment, deterministic, probabilistic, AI transformation, digital transformation, data minder, CFO, CMO, public domain data, business partner data, metadata, business glossary, technical catalog, agentic AI, multi-agent orchestration, agent registry, agent orchestration, open standard protocols, economic AI, digital transformation strategy, data advantages, structured data, unstructured data, hybrid data, PowerPoint, staffing optimization, resource management, query engine, relevance-ranked search, annotation, data regulation, governance, data procurement, data curation, data feeds, data platforms, information indexing, future predictions.Send Everyday AI and Jordan a text message. (We can't reply back unless you leave contact info) Try Google Veo 3 today! Sign up at gemini.google to get started. Try Google Veo 3 today! Sign up at gemini.google to get started.