Stark After Dark

Happy Juneteenth and Happy Pride! We have another WPWSY investigation for you today as we try to decode the confusing but also outrageous Judgement Day starring Ice-T, Mario Van Peebles and a brief cameo by Coolio. The plot: Black Israelites(?) have kidnapped Johnny Cage from the Mortal Kombat movies in order to bring about the destruction of earth from a series of asteroids. It's wild. We break down whatever the hell Mario Van Peebles is going for, a very confusing conversation about chicken and waffles, and if you can recreate terrible cgi on purpose.  Today, we celebrate those who came before us as well as looking toward a future where all people are free. Look after your community today and celebrate with those you love.  Also, be on the look out for Jordan's new comic series Ancestral Recall which you can pre-order at your local comic shop today! 

“See, even in chains we can defeat them. Turn your minds back my people. Remember yourself a thousand, thousand moons ago. Bring your bows!” All of this dialogue was spoken by a white woman in chains standing over an African tribe and that's really all you need to know about 1984's Sheena. Based on the comic book series of the same name, Sheena is a wild ride that made us ask why is the villain an African prince/celebrity/NFL kicker? Is that really how you pronounce shaman? And how unsafe was this set as clearly very real animals where running into very real people.  Guess what! That comic project Jordan has been talking about forever? It's finally on the way! Ancestral Recall will be in stores August 6th wherever you get your comics. It follows an eccentric painter who can tap into the power of historical Black figures and travels time and space to find his wife/fight a sentient AI corporation from the future. All very timely.  Also be on the lookout for our rescheduled book club and movie club soon. Follow us at @whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod on IG WPWSY on Bluesky or write in to us at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com 

Finally! Sorry for the delay, but we know people have been asking, so here are our thoughts on Ryan Coogler's new film Sinners!  You know we loved it and we share our thoughts on this incredible film. We also will have a follow up coming soon with all of the additional conversation about box office and cultural impact as well as a few roundtables!

Is it only April? We hope everyone has been doing well and hanging in there. Hopefully today's episode will help up lift some spirits because we've got a fun one with 1995's Die Hard With a Vengeance. Not only was Jordan surprised to learn this is actually the third film in the series, but also that it could have also co-starred Laurence Fishburne instead of Sam Jackson.  It also lets us ask a lot of important questions like who was the first Black person to save the world on film and what if Simon Gruber asked questions only about Black history?  Our book club is starting up soon! Coming up on Sunday April 27th we'll be discussing Eve Ewing's Original Sin which explores the intentional failures of America's education system when it comes to Black and Indigenous children specifically. We'll be talk about it on our IG (@whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod) and on our discord so be sure to join us on both.  We'll be back in two weeks with Academy award winner Adrian Brody in the very confusing Chinese blockbuster, Dragon Gate.  

Oscar season might be over but that doesn't mean we still can't cover some Oscar bait. 2009's The Soloist that has all the makings of an awards season darling: two stars at the height of their power with Robert Downey Jr. an Jamie Foxx, an award winning director and screen writer and a sappy true story. And yet, it feels like a parody.  We discuss how cruelly this movie treats the unhoused community it seemingly wants to uplift, Jamie's crazy hairline and outfits, and how movies like this seek to win awards through Black pain.  Announcement: We are finally starting out book club this April! Our first book will be Eve Ewing's Original Sins: The (Mis)education of Black and Native Children and the Construction of American Racism. We will be livestreaming our discussion on IG (@whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod) on April 27th so stay tuned and we hope to see you then! 

Never in the history of this show has a movie caught Jordan and Cameron so off guard. 1994's Just Cause isn't just a wildly racist movie, it actually thinks it's doing the work...until it decides the work is too hard and creates a cartoonishly villainous Black character with the craziest plan we've ever seen in a movie.  Starring Sean Connery, Laurence Fishburne, Blair Underwood, Ruby Dee, Scarlett Johansson, Ed Wood and somehow more, it follows all the usual twist and turns of your usual 90's thriller until it makes the hardest left turn into "actually this Black man is a psycho and the police were right to beat and castrate him." Yes, you read that right.  Anyways, we're chugging along and getting ready to launch our book and film clubs coming up this month. Join us on our Discord and Instagram (@whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod) to learn more.  We'll be trying to organize more as the year goes on, but we hope everyone is hanging in there.  We love you and we've got you! 

We're back with one from the vaults! Audio on Jordan's end wasn't the best (computer was on deaths door) but the episode itself is a banger...or should we say a Dead Bang... Anyways, this movie almost feels like a spiritual prequel to another movie we've done, Rebel Ridge, as this time it's Don Johnson going after white supremacist. You can almost imagine his character retiring to the south and becoming a small time racist sheriff if you squint.  We talk about the bait and switch trailer, the choice to set this at Christmas, and if we can properly rank caucacity anymore given that it's at its peak almost daily now.  Happy Black History Month! Even though its almost over we will be starting up both are book club and film club at the end of this month so stay tuned for that. Follow us on IG and TikTok at @whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod and hit us up at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com We'll be back next week as we begin to re-release our episodes that have aged out of the feed, starting with Green Book! 

Finally we get to sit down and talk about one of the most acclaimed movies of 2024, Nickel Boys. Directed by RaMell Ross and based on the Pulitzer Prize winning book by Colson Whitehead, it's a stunning portrait of Black life and incredible piece of filmmaking.  We discuss the use of POV and how it forces empathy, our theater experiences, and the dreamlike qualities of the film.  Things are crazy and we hope you're doing okay. We have a couple of things in the works that will hopefully offer some escape and also help give focus. Follow us on @whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod on IG and TikTok for updates on Book Club and Film club as well as Patreon stuff. 

We're kicking off the New Year with some absolute foolishness as we discuss the movie where Harry Potter goes undercover as a white supremacist. That's right, we're talking about 2016's Imperium and we're joined by the wonderful Brandon Collins of Medium Popcorn and Drunk Black History.  We ask why Daniel Radcliffe looks like he's  about to cry in every scene, if the movie understands the difference between all these white supremacist groups, and if the Black friend in the movie ever got a sorry for calling you a nigger at that klan march text.  Brandon is one of the best out there and he's got something special in the works for this year. His Drunk Black History show is doing some live dates coming up over the next few months and you won't want to miss it! Follow him at @americancollins on Twitter and go to https://www.frodoblackins.com/ to get tickets! And as always, check out Medium Popcorn wherever you get your podcast! We got big plans for the year, so stay tuned as we put everything together. Everyone out in L.A. stay safe, and we'll see you in two weeks! 

Did you ever think you were watching one movie and ended up seeing another? That's the horror our wonderful guest comedian and comic writer Kristal Adams faced, thinking she was going to watch Rescuers Down Under and instead having to sit through Quigley Down Under.  Kristal joins us to tell her harrowing tale as we break down Tom Selleck's last desperate attempt to make his Indiana Jones dreams come true. We discuss the inherit problems with the Western, Cameron shows off his Alan Rickman impression, and much more.  Kristal's comic Mutiny: Black Girl Magic is a must read! The second issue just wrapped on Kickstarter and you absolutely need to grab a copy when they drop. She's also co-owner of FairSquare Comics which publishes some amazing books that tell the kinds of stories we need more of. Find everything she has going on at @thedarkkristal on IG and TikTok.  We've got more episodes dropping soon, including our best of 2024 round ups and our annual Holiday episode. Keep up with everything at @whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod on IG and TIkTok and on our last days of Twitter @white_pod! 

Hello friends! We hope everyone has been hanging in. We ourselves had to take a little break following the election as well as for the Holidays, but we're back to finish the year out strong.  This particular episode was recorded the week of the election but we thought it might be best to let it sit for a bit, since we're sure many of you are also still getting your heads around everything. We give our thoughts as well as suggest ways to help going into next year.  We end with a celebration of the genius of Quincy Jones and his contributions to music, film, and culture.  We'll also be dropping another episode tomorrow along with our 2024 end of year special and holiday special later this month.  Be well and take care of each other and yourselves as we head into 2025.  

Happy Halloween! As scary as the real world is, we figured everyone could use a break and a really dumb movie, so here's 1993's Ghost Brigade. Also known as Grey Knight, Killing Box, and The Lost Brigade this civil war zombie can't even get the "zombie" or "civil war" part right.  Joined by the one and only Justina Ireland (Amazing Spider-Man, Star Wars: The High Republic, Dread Nation) joins us to discuss Ray Wise's questionable relationship with his horse, Cynda Williams as the magical voodoo enslaved woman, and much more!  Justina is the first woman to work on a run of Amazing Spider-Man and you should absolutely pick it up on November 16th! Also check out her website for more books and info! And you can find us on all the socials (@whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod on IG and TikTok and @white_pod on Twitter) where we'll be dropping more fun stuff in the near future. Take care of yourselves this upcoming week and we'll see you soon. 

Ride with us down the Mississippi as we speak with the award winning duo of David F. Walker and Marcus Kwame Anderson about 1993's The Adventure of Huck Finn and more importantly their new graphic novel reimagining of Mark Twain's classic, Big Jim and The White Boy.  That's right, their new book shifts the perspective to Jim and gives more context to his life and story, literally what we talk about on the podcast each episode. We discuss the Disneyfication of slavery, how their new book fills in Jim's story, and so much more! You can buy Big Jim and The White Boy wherever books are sold! Preorder now or go to the store on October 15th and grab a copy! Maybe even check out one of these Black bookstores! You can find more of David's excellent work (like the incredible Bitter Root) at his website. Same for Marcus.  If you like to reach out to us, as always we're at @white_pod on Twitter and at @whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod on IG and Tiktok. Or hit us up at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com  And we'll be back with more in two weeks, including some Halloween themed episodes! 

Special episode alert! Today we discuss the new Netflix film Rebel Ridge, very much the kind of movie that inverts our usual films. A movie about civil asset forfeiture doesn't sound too exciting, but there's a lot of good things to be found in this one.  All that said, we do have a few issues which leads to an interesting discussion about white filmmakers tackling Black stories, choices Black actors make in those roles, and more!  Check us out on all the social medias now! @whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod on IG and TikTok and @White_pod on Twitter.  We've got some great episodes coming your way soon, specifically a conversation with David F. Walker and Marcus Kwame Anderson, the duo behind the reimagined Huck Finn graphic novel Big Jim and The White Boy. 

Bzzz bzz that's the sound of the... Beekepers? Joined by WPWSY All Star Julian Lyltle, we discuss the 2024 breakout hit The Beekeeper.  Jason Statham kicking ass in all his glory, but our real interest here is one Phlyicia Rashad. We wonder what makes this a lowkey savior film, if Jason Statham has ever made a truly bad movie, and much more.  Find Julian wherever you do your social media at @julianlytle and find us on the socials @white_pod on Twitter and at @whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod on IG and TikTok.  We'll back soon with a special episode on Rebel Ridge. 

And now, starting at white savior, from the university of "who the hell thought this was a good idea", 2014's Thunderstruck! Truly one of the most puzzling films of the 2010's, Thunderstruck is at once a movie that thought it would make sense to star the notoriously anti-social Kevin Durant but also decided that would be enough (it wasn't, it didn't even make a million at the box office).  We discuss why this kid didn't immediately declare for the NBA draft, who the best hoopers turned actors are, and how exactly did this literal child have a bathroom connected to his room.  Also, we're on all the socials now! Find us on TikTok and IG (whitepeoplewontsaveyou) and you can finally watch our live show from Caveat on Youtube  We'll bee back in two weeks with 2024's The Beekeeper!

Back together again! Cameron was in Baltimore for the week, so this episode was actually done in person, which was much needed because we had a lot to say on this one.  1970's The Landlord might sound good on paper (Hal Ashby, Bill Gunn, Louis Gossett Jr., Beau Bridges) but it plays out like some of the worst mishmash of hippie dreams and racial politics. A nepo baby buys a building in Harlem and...well... We discuss all the ways this went wrong as well upholding the sanctity of the third level of caucacity.  Youtube is being awful, but we're still trying to upload our live show so hopefully that will be everywhere soon! We also have some fun episodes and guests coming up in the next few weeks, starting with our next episode which covers 4 time Olympic gold medalist Kevin Durant's only foray into acting, Thunderstruck! 

We're back again with one of our greatest living actors, Denzel Washington. This time, it's the 2010 true train story, Unstoppable. Starring opposite Chris Pine along with Rosario Dawson, it's unbelievably the first of Denzel's train duology (Taking of Pelham 123 comes out the following year).  We get into the tricky savior move pulled in this one, the behind the scenes of how Denzel almost wasn't a part of this movie, and much more.  We're trying to figure out how to let Youtube let us upload our live show, they keep striking it for copyright. If you have any tips, hit us up at @white_pod or email us at Whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com  We'll be back in two weeks with one of our worst, 1970's The Landlord. 

Since everyday feels like an historical event in 2024, we decided to go back in time to another, 2015's Stonewall. Joined by Jared McCullough of the Black Geek Energy podcast, we discuss this disaster of a movie by the disaster movie master, Roland Emmerich.  Not only does this movie insert a white man into the middle of a historically Black and Latino uprising, not only does it reduce almost every queer character to stereotypes, not only does it manage to make Marasha P. Johnson a footnote in her own story, but it's has the caucacity to be over two hours with just 10 minutes of riot.  We talk about Emmerich's unbelievably tone deaf comments, how ugly the movie looks, and if we'll ever see the Blade movie.  Follow Black Geek Energy wherever you get your podcasts, and get caught up on everything from MCU to the latest anime, to D&D!  Also, this Friday we'll be releasing our Live episode on Youtube for those who missed it or just want to enjoy it again! Follow us on @white_Pod for the link! 

Have you ever wanted to see Brooke Shields with dreads? Or here Elijah Wood call another white person "the true nigga"? Or watch 1990's Knicks shooting guard Allan Houston act? Well 1999's Black and White has all this and more. A truly baffling film, we take the long winding road through all of the insane moments of this film.. From one of craziest death scenes caught on film, to a lot of white people with questionable hair and accents, to what the hell all of Wu-Tang was doing in this movie.  Shout-out to Ben, a truly incredible artist and a good friend. His upcoming book Black Arms to Hold You Up about armed Black armed resistance is coming out next fall is, so be on the lookout for that. In the meantime, follow him on IG at @daygloayhole for more comics and conversation.  Our recorded live show is dropping on Youtube next week, so be on the lookout for that! And be sure to reach out to us at @white_pod on Twitter and at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com  We'll be back in two weeks with pod favorite Denzel Washington in one of two train movies in his filmography, 2010's Unstoppable!

Sometimes you gotta pop out and...you know the rest. We're so excited to welcome the amazing KT of the For Your Reference podcast to come on and discuss a savior from down under, 2002's Black and White. Did Cameron watch an entirely different film called Black and White? Yes. Did both have white people saying crazy things? Also yes. We discuss how the savior trope persists across countries, aboriginal representation in film, and the UK's sexiest man.  The For Your Reference pod is one of our faves, and should be one of yours too! From interviews to film reviews to just great conversations, please, please, check them out! Find them at @foryourefpod on the socials and check out their linktree. As for us, our Mummy live show is going to be on Youtube soon, so please stay tuned for that! We're also doing the rounds for guests, so if you have suggestions, always feel free to hit us up at @white_pod or at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com  We'll be back in two weeks with...Black and White (Cameron's version). 

You ever see a movie poster and think, "nah that can't be real"? This is one of them. Amos and Andrew(?) starring Samuel L. Jackson(?!) and Nicholas Cage(!?!) is a buddy movie all about some bullshit. With a double dose of Blackface and a sprinkling of racial slurs, we have a textbook case of why we do this podcast.   We also ask, is the buddy race comedy ever good, talk about the original Amos and Andy, and get into a triple dose of caucasity this week!  If you missed our final live show, stay tuned for news on how to watch it! As always, hit us up at @white_pod and at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com! We'll back in two weeks with our first of two movies titled Black and White! 

We're live! Coming to you from Caveat in NYC, we pulled out all the stops for the last live show of the spring. Joined by pod favorite Aileen Clark (of Uy Que Horror!) we discuss everyone's horny fave, 1999's The Mummy.  The Millennial classic turned 25 and we have a lot of thoughts. From if hotness determined your survival, Evelyn's eyebrows or lack thereof, and all the messiness behind the brownface.  If you missed us and would like to check out the livestream of this show, go to https://www.caveat.nyc/events/white-people-wont-save-you-5-25-2024 and click livestream to get the VOD of the show. Tickets will be up until June 31st so don't delay! We couldn't have done any of this without you, the listeners, so thank you all so much! If you'd like to see us do more live shows, please hit us up on Twitter @white_pod or at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com Also check out Aileen and Jonny on Uy Que Horror wherever you get your podcasts and on Twitter @uy_que_horror and on IG & TikTok @uyquehorror!   

Sometimes you gotta pop up and show niggas! Wow, what a week and change it's been for Hip-Hop. We actually had recorded something last Thursday and well...you know what happened. But we couldn't not talk about Kendrick and Drake and everything it means.  The culture, the music, the jokes, the wild takes! We cover it all and more!  And just a reminder our last live show of the Spring is coming up soon. May 25th at Caveat in NYC! Tickets are live now on the website and there's also a streaming option to watch from the comfort of your own home! Aileen from Uy Que Horror is joining us and you won't want to miss it! 

First, all solidarity to the students protesting across the country. We're seeing some truly horrifying things but the strength and conviction is what's needed. The kids are holding it down and we need to do the same for them.  With that said, we're back after a few live shows with the amazing Panama Jackson (The Grio) to talk about what may very well be the last good movie Cuba Gooding Jr. ever made, Men of Honor. Also starring Robert De Niro, it tells the true story of the first Black master diver, Carl Brashear. Panama asks if this even qualifies as a white savior movie, we get into the deleted ending as well as some quality Tubi picks.  Panama is someone we've been fans of for a long time. From his days at The Root and Very Smart Brothers to his amazing podcast Dear Culture over at The Grio, he's always on top of what's happening in Black culture. Give him a follow @panamajackson on all the socials!  Many thanks to folks who joined us live in Brooklyn and Baltimore for our first two live shows! We have one more coming up at Caveat in NY on May 25th. Grab your tickets here to join us in person or on the livestream! 

We talking about Jazz y'all! Specifically the 2016 film, La La Land. The hype, the 14 Academy Award nominations, the viral Moonlight moment, 8 years later, is this movie still mid? You know it!  We're joined by the hilarious Roxxy Haze to discuss, why did white people love this movie so much, did you remember any of the songs, and much more!  Roxxy is so talented, you definitely need to check out support all she has going on. Comedy, music, articles, poetry! Find it all at her website or by following @roxxyhaze on Twitter and IG.  As for us, we just did our first live show! Thanks to everyone who came out to see us in Brooklyn! We have another show coming up on April 26th at The Crown in Baltimore, so if you're in the area, come out and see us. As always, follow us at @white_pod and hit us up at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com 

In celebration of our first live show coming this Sunday (April 14th at the Brooklyn Comedy Collective, get tickets here! ) we're flashing back to one of our first episodes! Hopefully you'll join us this Sunday and our guest Dylan Green (Pitchfork, Reel Notes Podcast) as we dive back into this mess!  

Phew! Every once in a while we find a movie that makes you ask, "how is this real?" This is one of those ones. We call in WPWSY Hall of Famer Shawn Pryor to discuss a movie that has Tony Todd, Stacy Dash, and *checks notes* Ray Parker Jr.?  We discuss the absurdity of the Vampire gang, give Psycho his flowers, and just marvel at the many wild turns this movie takes.  Shawn is out here putting in work! Go to his website to find his upcoming slate of books hitting stores all throughout 2024! And find him on the socials at @theshawnpshow Also, we're going to be live soon! April 14th is our first show at the Brooklyn Comedy Collective and we're super excited to see you all. Dylan Green will be joining us as we revisit one of our first episodes, White Man's Burden. Tickets go live soon on Brooklyncc.com so get yours and come through! 

Despite the title of the movie, we've got a lot to say about this one! Joined by our friends at Blerdy Massacre, we discuss the 2020 smash sequel A Quiet Place Part II. We discuss man on island, what we expect with two Black people in the upcoming film, and pick some of our favorite Black horror films! Much love to Sharai and Xero for joining us! Do yourself a favor and check out their podcast ASAP to get your horror fix!  And follow them on the socials!  Also, we're going on tour! Coming to New York and Baltimore in April and May. April 14th at Brooklyn Comedy Collective, April 26th at The Crown in Baltimore, and May 25th at Caveat in New York. More details coming soon, but we can't wait to see you all in person soon! 

Oh, you thought we were done!? After we finished talking with Aisha, we still had thoughts to get off, so enjoy this extended conversation as we get to more quotes from director Kobi Libbi, dig deeper into some of the supposed themes, and ask if Justice Smith's character stumbled on a copy of Wretched of the Earth after getting kicked out of the society.  Some news! We're going to be live in NY and Baltimore coming up in April and May! Our first show is coming up April 14th at the Brooklyn Comedy Collective. Tickets are going on sale soon, so if you'll be in BK, come through and see us!  As always, find as at @white_Pod, write to us at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com We'll be back soon with a new episode! 

You asked and we delivered. A movie that should have been funny and insightful but instead turned out to be one of the most confusing films in recent memory, The American Society of Magical Negroes is something we have to talk about. Before you ask, it's everything you feared and maybe a bit more. We break it all down so you don't have to see it, including some intriguing quotes from Kobi Libbi and our thoughts on ways this concept could have worked.    Please check out Aisha's review here, and follow on the socials for more of her wonderful thoughts on film and more. In fact, you can buy a book filled with them in Wannabe: Reckonings with the Pop Culture That Shapes Me . And of course check out NPR's Pop Culture Happy Hour wherever you get your podcasts.    Oh, and we aren't done. Cameron and Jordan had another whole round of thoughts and more quotes from the director to parse so part two is coming soon! 

Award season has come to an end, so we look back at a past awards  darling to see how it holds up today. Spoiler, it doesn't. 2009's Invictus tells the story of Nelson Mandela and the 1995 South African World Cup rugby team and earned Oscar nominations for both Morgan Freeman and Matt Damon. Lucky for us, Fatimah Gilliam (author of Race Rules: What Your Black Friend Won't Tell You) is here to help us break it all down!  We discuss Mandela's rugby obsession, the lack of apartheid in a movie about apartheid, and what exactly this movie wants us to feel good about? You have to check out Fatimah's book! As she says, go order it a Black bookstore, go request at your local library, and rate it on Amazon to help work that algorithm! You can also find Fatimah on Twitter @fatimahgilliam and on Instagram @fatimah_gilliam We have live show stuff coming soon! April we'll have two shows, one in Brooklyn and one in Baltimore and then the following month in May we'll be back in NY for a show in Manhattan. Dates are coming soon, but come out and see your boys! Follow us on Twitter at @white_pod for more details! We'll see you soon! 

Today! We travel back to simpler times, before cinematic universes, to a world of ridiculous costumes, confused racial stereotypes, and a villain who only operates at 10. We're talking 1996's The Phantom, and we're joined by the amazing Tarik Davis (The Amber Ruffin Show).  We talk about the poorly named "rope people", if The Phantom actually has any powers, and his ghost dad's bizarre interest in his sex life. We also discuss the worst Black History Month job offers. We can't say enough about Tarik. Incredibly funny and knowledgeable, you can follow all he has going on at his website, tarikdavis.com. Also, be on the look out for his short film Doc: Race, Revolution, Relativity, & The Confessions of A Time Traveling Terrorist. You can also follow him on Twitter and IG @Tarikrdavis.  As always, follow us on Twitter @white_pod and hit us up at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com We'll be back in two weeks with the hosts of the Blerdy Massacre to talk A Quiet Place Part II.  

A white supremacist romantic thriller? Say it ain't so. Today we discuss 1988's Betrayed, a movie that asks, "is it love if you don't hunt a Black man with an uzi in the middle of the night"? We're joined by the fabulous Chauncey K. Robinson to talk about if Tom Berenger understands kissing, if Debra Winger is the worst undercover agent, and much more!  Many thank to Chauncey! Be sure to check her out at @Mschaunceykr on Twitter and subscribe to her excellent Youtube Channel. And be sure to be on the look out for her upcoming docu-series Production Tales From Hell from Dead Meat Productions where she'll detail some of the behind the scenes of some of the most notorious horror movie productions.  We're working on some exciting stuff on our end. Live shows, some video and Tiktok content, and more. Be sure to lookout for everything over at @white_Pod on Twitter and be sure to write in at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com 

We take a break from the never ending parade of white saviors to talk about a movie we actually liked, American Fiction. Written and directed by Cord Jefferson, and starring Jeffery Wright, Sterling K. Brown, Erika Alexander, and Traci Ellis Ross, it recently was nominated for 4 Academy Awards.  We talk about the amazing cast, our thoughts on the message of the movie, parallels to Bamboozled and 40 Year Old Version and much more!  Do yourself a favor and run out to see this movie, definitely lives up to the hype! And if you have seen it, let us know what you think at @white_pod on Twitter and at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com    

Oooof! We swear we love Denzel, but this week we travel back to look at his very first movie, 1981's Carbon Copy. Someone thought of white dad, Black son, and took the rest of the day off.  There's a million things wrong with this movie, but most of all it's the waste of Denzel. We discuss the tired gags, how the director of Coolie High could have been behind this, and much more!  Also, don't think we let Nikki "what was the Civil War" Haley off the hook either.  As always, hit us up on Twitter at @white_pod or message us at whitepeoplewontsaveyou@gmail.com  We'll be back in two weeks talking about a good movie for a change as we discuss American Fiction. 

Just in time for 2024, our 2023 wrap up! Jordan and Cameron take a look back at the year that was, the good and the bad. We give our picks for best movies and music, as well as talk about some of the more problematic figures of the year *cough Eric Adams, Kanye Cough*, and finally things we're looking forward to in 2024.  Another year, and we're so grateful to you all for listening! This show wouldn't be what it is without you. We can't for another year! As always, find us at @white_pod on Twitter, and hit us up at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com Happy 2024 everyone! 

Happy Holidays everyone! As we do this time of year, we welcome our sisters Carmen and Kemet to join us on the show. Our selection this year, the controversial 1982 film, White Dog.  Directed by Samuel Fuller and shelved by Paramount before it was even released, the film follows a racist dog who goes on a rampage, and we have questions. Like what the audition process was like for the Black people getting attacked by dogs. Also, why did they care more about curing the dog than...I don't know, the multiple people the dog kills? We can't believe we're already at the end of 2023. So much love and gratitude to all of our wonderful listeners who supported us through this year. We love you and we hope you take some time to be around those you love to close the year. We've got some big things in store for 2024, so stay tuned! 

This one is special! We're so thrilled to be joined by Joel Robinson, a member of the Osage Nation, and professor of Native American and global indigenous media studies, Joanna Hearne, to discuss the current state of Native representation in media.  It's an incredible conversation that covers Killers of the Flower Moon, Reservation Dogs, some film history, and tons of great recommendations to watch.  We're super grateful to both Joel and Joanna for joining us! Check out Joel's piece for Slate on Killers of the Flower Moon here, and find Joanna's books here and here.  We also wanted to make as many resources available as possible so check out our Google Doc that has a list of the films recommended as well as some books and more! Also, The National Film Board of Canada has a bunch of films you can watch for free on their website!  You can find Joel at @trythebuffer on Twitter and IG and you can find us at @white_pod as well as at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com  We've gotten so many great messages recently and we promise we'll get back to everyone soon!  Speaking of soon, look out for our annual holiday episode and end of year round up coming up in the next few weeks! 

As the Holiday season starts up, we turn towards a classic, and one we've been low-key avoiding. But the time has finally come for us to watch one of the craziest movies we've seen so far, 1964's Black Like Me.   We're joined by friend of the show Dare Johnson to talk about a movie where a white man pretends to be Black to see "what it's like." If that wasn't bad enough, it's based on a real experiment done by journalist John Howard Griffin.  We've got a lot to talk about with this one, including how not one Black person called him out for obviously being a white man, how no Black person knew he was a white man, and how not one damn Black person said, "ain't you a white man"?  As we get ready to close out 2023, we just want to say how much we appreciate you all and we hope you're able to wind down and spend some quality time with those you love. Times are rough, so be sure to hold on to the good things.  You can find Dare @badicaldude, and hit us up at @white_pod on Twitter and at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com to let us know what you thought of this one and what we should watch in 2024. We'll be back in two weeks with Spike Lee produced, Son of the South. 

*Note, unfortunately we had some recording issues on this episode and lost part of our conversation, but we still have a great episode for you and Kaili will be back! You know we had to talk about this one! We're joined by the super talented Kaili Y. Turner to discuss the buzziest Oscar film of the season, Martin Scorsese's Killers of the Flower Moon.  Based on the book of the same name and depicting the heinous Osage Indian murders that spanned over 10 years, we get into what this movie would have looked like from an Osage perspective, reaction from Native critics, and much, much more.  Kaili is incredible and you definitely need to be on everything they have going on. Check out Kaili's website and find them on Twitter at @Kailyturner.  We'll also have much more coverage of KotFM coming up so stay tuned for that. As always, find us at @white_pod and email us your thoughts at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com  We'll be back in two weeks with Dare Johnson talking about Black Like Me!

Ladies and gentlemen, 2021's Karen.       Wait...you need us to say more? Well, in honor of the spooky season, we subjected ourselves to one of the most absurd movies we've watched yet. Cameron and Jordan discuss what the hell everyone involved was thinking, the Get Out effect on Black horror, and a Cee-Lo Green song so bad it makes us long for Taylor Swift's cover of September.  With all the uncertainty in the world, hope everyone is doing alright out there. It's important to stay informed, but watching death on this wide a scale isn't normal. Take care of yourselves.  Keep up with us for the time being on Twitter @white_pod and hit us up at  whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com We'll be back in two weeks with Black Like Me. 

Ever wonder what West Side Story would be like if you took out all the songs, dancing, drama, and replaced it with fake combat dancing and crack? Well, you get 1989's extremely confusing film, Rooftops.  Actually directed by West Side Story's Robert Wise and completely wasting Tisha Campbell and Allen Payne, this one was a real head scratcher. Jordan and Cam talk the bait and switch of the trailer, the absurd "dance combat", and Lobo's press on nails.  Also, one of the wildest stories of Caucacity in 2023.  We're still out here on Twitter until it implodes at @white_pod . Follow us there and we'll see you in two weeks for maybe the wildest movie we've covered yet, 1964's Black Like Me.

This week, we step into the ring to go 12 rounds with the one and only Denzel Washington. We're joined in our corner by comedian Drexton Clemons (Game Breakers on Prime) to break down 1999's The Hurricane.  The story of Rubin Carter, a boxer wrongly convicted of murder, it got Denzel a Golden Globe and an Oscar nomination. It was also almost all lies. We get into the real story of Rubin's trial, if there has ever been as absurd a cop as Della Pesca, and discuss if Denzel has ever been in a truly bad film.  Follow Drexton on Twitter (no X over here) and Instagram (both @thisguydrex) for upcoming stand up dates as well as all your sports takes on Game Breakers!  You can also follow us on Twitter at @white_pod to stay up on all the caucacity going down, upcoming live shows, and more! We'll be back in two weeks with 1989's dance drama Rooftops! 

WE BACK BABBBBYYYYYY! Saviorless Summer is over and the time has come to return and karate chop these white savior movies in the neck.  And what better way to start than with Ninja Vengeance! Have you ever wondered what it would look like if a white ninja fought the KKK? Look no further than this mess of a B-movie that...look, it's a lot. A love subplot with the chemistry of an Ikea manual. The karate of a community theater production of Mortal Kombat. And an understanding of race on par with Ron DeSantis.  A lot has happened during our break, including the continued strikes for writers and actors and the wildfires in Hawaii. If you can, consider giving to both here and here.  Also as a programming note, we're going to be releasing episodes bi-weekly from here on. So don't freak if we don't show up in the feed next week, we'll be back the following week!  Follow us on...(sigh) X at @white_pod and be on the look out for our IG coming soon. We love y'all and it's good to be back! 

We come to you live with a special White People Won't Save You report! Blindside 2: Blindsided. While he was busy protecting the pocket, they were busy running his. Cameron and Jordan react to all the drama surrounding the new allegations and law suit between Michael Oher and the Touy's.  We get into Oher's grievances, the difference between a conservatorship and adoption/guardianship, and why the math ain't mathing on the Touy side.  We've got some fun stuff coming up soon for y'all. Starting with a live watch of Rooftops with the good folks at Queuepoints podcast over on our Discord. Also, we;ll be back with new episodes soon. Thank you so much for your patience, we can't wait to get back to doing the show!  We're on...X *shudders* for now at @white_Pod, but we're working on setting up at calmer shores on Instagram. We'll back with more caucacity for you soon! 

We back! Kind of... Jordan and Cameron chop it up with friend of the show James III (Black Men Can't Jump in Hollywood) to discuss the ongoing WGA/SAG strike that continues to roll on. We talk his experiences on the picket line, what the unions are fighting for, A.I. and more.  We also get into the ancestors messing up that cop in Boston, fake gorillas in the zoo, and Taco Bell potentially skimping on the meat.  We hope you've been enjoying your summer! If you can, we encourage you to donate to the Entertainment Community Fund  Follow James at Ruleof3inc on Instagram and follow us on...X? at @white_Pod. We'll be back soon, stay safe y'all! 

Hello! Although we're still taking it easy for the summer, we couldn't let a white savior movie this blatant pass us by. Guy Ritchie's The Covenant (yes you have to say the whole thing) is the story of a soldier so racked by guilt after his Afghan translator saves his life, that he goes back guns blazing to bring him and his family to America. It's the grounded and subtle storytelling Guy Ritchie is known for.  Jordan sat down with culture critic and podcast host Murtada Elfadl (The Izzy and Murtada Picture Show) to discuss just how crazy it is that Dar Salim's character dragged Jake Gyllenhaal 62 miles on foot, how the hell you make an apolitical movie about Afghanistan, and much more.  You can find Murtada on Twitter at @ME_Says and read his work all over at places like AV Club and Variety. He also helps put on NewFest, an LGBTQ+ festival in New York which will be starting today! Go to NewFest.org for more!   As always, you can find us on Twitter at @White_pod and at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com More coming soon, including info on live watches, reviews, and more fun things. Happy Pride, and we'll see you soon! 

DON'T PANIC! Hello friends! We've been at this thing for almost 2 years now, no skips, and we love doing the show. However, it's a lot of work on our end putting things together on our own. So in the interest of not burning out and keeping things going, we'll be taking a little summer break.  DON'T PANIC What this means is there won't be any regular episodes as you know them in June and July, but that doesn't mean we're ghosting you. Jordan will be around with some guests to talk about some white savior films coming out this summer, including Guy Ritchie's The Covenant, as well as non white savior movies like Into the Spider-Verse 2 and The Little Mermaid.  We'll also be doing some live watches (more info once we figure out where and when) and we'll try to have some more fun surprises in the interim.  So one more time, no need to panic. Podcast will return in full this August, but until then, check in with us at @white_pod on Twitter and email us at whitepeoplewontsaveyou@gmail.com  Be easy, take care of yourselves, and we'll be back soon! 

On today's episode, we discuss a movie with the most baffling and boldly caucastic finale we may have seen so far. 2007's Resurrecting The Champ is your typical "based" on a true story nonsense, until the final 15 minutes... Josh Hartnett does zero journalism, almost tanks a major newspaper, lies to his wife and son nonstop, but somehow he's the one who ends up better off than he started and the icon Samuel L. Jackson dies alone in an alley. Make it make sense!  We're closing in on 100! Let us know what movie we should watch to commemorate the occasion and who you'd like us to try and have on. Hit us up at @white_pod and whitepeoplewontsaveyou@gmail.com  We'll be back next week with a look back/forward at Dune and a breakdown of the latest trailer. 

Ahhh the 90's. Super Soakers were soaking, MTV mostly played music videos, and a former cocaine mule turned snitch turned comedian was headlining TGIF. And at the height of his powers, Tim Allen and Disney joined forces to deliver one of the worst movies of the decade, 1997's Jungle 2 Jungle. We're joined by the amazing Katt and Jaz of the Girl That's Scary podcast to break down the foolishness of Tim Allen and his son "Cat Piss". Why did Disney feel the need to remake this film twice? How do you not get divorced after 13 years? And why does Tim Allen want to say a certain racial slur so badly? We loved having the incredible Jaz and Katt on and you absolutely need to subscribe to GTS immediately. Equally entertaining and informative, even if horror isn't your thing.  We're coming up on 100 episodes and we need your help! What movie should we watch? Who should we talk to? Hit us up at @white_pod or at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com with your picks!  We'll be back next week with Resurrecting the Champ.