Podcast appearances and mentions of chris date

Support The Ministry: https://patreon.com/thechurchsplit Donate: https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=DNCPKRQVTBD5E Order My Book: https://a.co/d/1vjiC16 The Network: https://onelifenetwork.org/ For years, Chris Date and the Rethinking Hell ministry have pushed for "kindness, unity, and respectful dialogue" within the church. But behind the polished branding and calls for civility lies a different story. In this video, we pull back the curtain on the real behavior coming from the frontman of Rethinking Hell. From calling arguments "stupid," to accusing fellow believers of slander, blocking anyone who dares to disagree, and even shouting on camera — the contrast between message and method is too loud to ignore. This isn't about theology. This is about integrity.

In this episode, I respond to comments made on a recent video posted by  @TheProvisionistPerspective  where they respond to Chris Date's response to Braxton Hunter asking him to respond to non-calvinist proof texts! :) My concern here isn't necessarily to defend calvinism per se, but to caution that the desire to come against "determinism" in Calvinism can push one to the other extreme and end up denying key elements of the gospel. Enjoy.Link to full video at provisionist perspective here-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3cewbaACBQ&t=9155s

Johnny Barnes is a graduate of Dallas Theological Seminary but he had his degree revoked after he revealed that he didn't believe in the Trinity and the Seminary's statement of faith. He tells his story, his work on translating the bible for Spirit and Truth Ministries, and his work on the Biblical Unitarian youtube channel. (  @biblicalunitarian  ) We mention Sean Finnegan ( @restitutio8765 ) , Chris Date ( @rethinkinghell ), Bill Schlegel, John Schoenheit, Jerry Weirwille, and more. Biblical Unitarian Youtube channel - https://www.youtube.com/@biblicalunitarian Sean's Isaiah 9:6 Presentation - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtJxn39zPVM

In today's I got the chance to sit down with Chris Date and discuss everyone's favorite topic....hell! Chris Date has spent much of his time writing, podcasting on hell, and contributing to the organization "Rethinking Hell." I hope that you can learn as much from this episode as I did! Check out more of Chris Date's work! Leave a rating/review! Follow on Instagram! @theoutlet_podcast

The topics of predestination and free will have been debated for centuries. On this week's episode, we'll hear from individuals with varying opinions on these complex topics. Bible scholar, writer, and podcaster, Chris Date believes in the theology of Calvinism (term often used synonymously for predestination) and sees one's salvation as something that God predetermined and that only individuals whom God chose will live with him for eternity. Chris and Joey Svendsen are joined by Pastor Chip Judd to discuss this belief. Chris and Chip also share sharp opinions on whether a person's actions or choices are authored by God and if he controls the outcome.At top of the episode, Tomelex Copeland, Roy Jacques, Lynne Stroy and Joey have their own discussion on predestination and they revisit a conversation from an earlier episode and assess whether it's possible for a person to remain quiet in a stressful, high pressure situation.Stay ConnectedWebsite | Facebook Discussion Page  In this episodeChris Date / Facebook / Website Chip Judd / Instagram / PodcastRoy Jacques, host / FacebookTomelex Copeland, host / FacebookLynne Stroy, host / InstagramJoey Svendsen, host / InstagramExecutive Producer: Josh SurrattProducer/Editor: Joey SvendsenSound Engineer/Editor: JT PriceSound Engineer: Katelyn VandiverMusic, including theme song: Joel T. Hamilton MusicSince the beginning of 2024, this podcast releases fully-produced, video versions of each episode. You can find these on our YouTube Channel.

George Sarris is a speaker and storyteller who is passionate about presenting Bible-based messages for believers as well as the culture at large. He's the author of the book Heaven's Doors: Wider Than You Ever Imagined, accomplished actor and spokesperson for radio and TV commercials, industrial films and trade shows. George received his MDiv from Gordon Conwell Theological Seminary. Chris Date graduated from Fuller Theological Seminary, where he focused on exegesis of the Old Testament in its original Hebrew. He's an adjunct professor of Bible and theology at Trinity College of the Bible and Theological Seminary, the founder of the Rethinking Hell resource website, and co-editor of Rethinking Hell: Readings in Evangelical Conditionalism. Register for the Exiles 2 day conference in Denver (Oct 4-5) here: https://theologyintheraw.com/exiles-denver/  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This episode dives into the debate between the annihilationist view (also known as 'conditional immortality') and the traditional 'eternal conscious torment' perspective on hell that has been highlighted among scholars for years. Dr. Al Mohler, Former President of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, strongly opposes the annihilationist view, a stance he elaborated on in his daily podcast, The Briefing. On the other side we have Chris Date, a co-founder of Rethinking Hell, who argues in favour of the annihilationist perspective, a belief he adopted after extensive biblical study. The debate delves into scriptural interpretations and examines whether academic scholarship is actually shifting away from the traditional view of eternal torment in favour of an end of all ends. Originally Aired 3 Jan 2015 • Subscribe to the Unbelievable? podcast: https://pod.link/267142101 • More shows, free eBook & newsletter: https://premierunbelievable.com • For live events: http://www.unbelievable.live • For online learning: https://www.premierunbelievable.com/training • Support us in the USA: http://www.premierinsight.org/unbelievableshow • Support us in the rest of the world: https://www.premierunbelievable.com/donate

Introduction- Chad and Brian discuss their favorite and most memorable debates between Christian apologists/philosophers and atheists/skepticsChad's Debate Picks1. James Crossley vs. William Lane Craig - Was Jesus Raised from the Dead? (2012)   - Highlights Craig's case for the resurrection based on postmortem appearances    - Contrasting styles of young Crossley vs distinguished Craig2. Jeffrey Lowder vs. Frank Turek - What Better Explains Reality: Naturalism or Theism? (2016)     - Appreciates Lowder's formal case for naturalism reminiscent of Craig   - Admires the cordiality and clash of Lowder's logic vs Turek's rhetoric  3. Christopher Hitchens vs. William Lane Craig   - The "prizefight" lead-up and spectacle surrounding this legendary debate   - Contrasts Craig's arguments vs Hitchens' emotional appeals4. Braxton Hunter vs. Matt Dillahunty (2019)   - Hunter exposes issues in Dillahunty's epistemology    - Effectively argues for Kalam cosmological argument and argument from free will5. Craig vs Francisco Ayala - Is Intelligent Design Viable? (2013)   - Craig debates an award-winning evolutionary scientist   - Craig has to think on his feet against unfamiliar arguments from Ayala6. Chris Date vs. Dale Tuggy - Is Jesus Human and Not Divine?     - High-level, rich, respectful debate between able defenders of their positions   - Highlights Date's ancient bird imagery argument for Christ's deity7. Paul Draper vs. William Lane Craig   - Craig debates a formidable philosophical adversary   - Interesting to see Craig on his heels against some unfamiliar argumentsBrian's Debate Picks  1. William Lane Craig vs. Peter Atkins   - The famous "put that in your pipe" moment where Craig lists what science can't explain2. Norm Geisler vs. Paul Kurtz on John Ankerberg Show     - Admires Geisler's rapid-fire responses to a breadth of objectionsBonus: Worst Debate - Jeff Durbin & James White vs Dr. Clark & Dan Ellis (2020)  - Dr. Clark engaged in bizarre antics like throwing books, demanding miracles  - One of the most cringeworthy debates they've seenFind links here: https://truthbomb.blogspot.com/2024/02/some-of-my-favorite-debates.html================================We appreciate your feedback.If you're on TWITTER, you can follow Chad @TBapologetics.You can follow Brian @TheBrianAutenAnd of course, you can follow @Apologetics315If you have a question or comment for the podcast, record it and send it our way using www.speakpipe.com/Apologetics315 or you can email us at podcast@apologetics315.com

In this episode, Brian and Chad interview Chris Date about his view on conditional immortality, which is the idea that the final punishment of the wicked is death and total destruction rather than eternal conscious torment. Chris provides an overview of the two contrasting views and shares his journey of how he became convinced of annihilationism after originally believing in eternal conscious torment.He then dives into key biblical texts that are often used to argue for eternal torment, such as Mark 9:48, Matthew 25:46, Revelation 14:9-11, and Jude 7, demonstrating how these passages can actually better support conditionalism. Chris also makes a concise case for his view by looking at biblical evidence on immortality, the vision of eternity, substitutionary atonement, and the fate of the wicked described as death and destruction.For more resources from Chris on this topic, check out the Rethinking Hell website www.rethinkinghell.com and YouTube channelhttps://www.youtube.com/@RethinkingHellas well as Chris' personal website at https://chrisdate.info While Chris hopes listeners will consider his perspective, his ultimate desire is for unity in the body of Christ despite differences on this non-essential doctrine.================================We appreciate your feedback.If you're on TWITTER, you can follow Chad @TBapologetics.You can follow Brian @TheBrianAutenAnd of course, you can follow @Apologetics315If you have a question or comment for the podcast, record it and send it our way using www.speakpipe.com/Apologetics315 or you can email us at podcast@apologetics315.com

Hell is likely the least favorite topic of most Christians. It's often times considered one of the hardest doctrines to swallow. The idea of an eternity of misery separated from God seems horrendous, so it's no wonder we often like to avoid it. But there is a certain segment of Christians who believe we have gotten Hell wrong. In fact, they think the Bible portrays a very different image of Hell. Hell, they argue, isn't a place of unending suffering but simply nonexistence. In other words, the fate of the unredeemed is less like Dante's Inferno and more like just ceasing to exist altogether. Here to defend this view from a Biblical standpoint is Chris Date, one of the foremost defenders of the view often called Annihilationism.

In this episode, Brian Auten and Chad Gross interview Chris Date on the topic of Eschatology, or the End Times. They explore the ins and outs of various views of the end times, before discussing more deeply the view that Chris holds on the subject. A very helpful and informative conversation!www.chrisdate.info0:24 - Intro to Chris Date2:43 - An update on Chris and his wife's treatment5:07 - What is eschatology?6:47 - Chris' work and engagement on the subject9:44 - Why should anyone care about end times study?15:00 - Encouragement for those overwhelmed by the topic17:57 - Advice for people having discussions on end times24:23 - An overview of end times views29:45 - What is the most popular view historically?37:01 - The history of dispensational millennialism 43:06 - Is “the rapture” biblical?50:40 - The preterist view52:06 - Partial or full preterism?1:11:15 - How does one properly think about their view of end times?1:16:08 - What's up with 666?1:23:10 - Resources recommended for further study Resources:Premillennial vs Amillennial on Christ's Return: Daniel Goepfrich & Chris Date on Unbelievable with Justin Brierley - https://a315.co/3Pn5vZyOverview of End Times Views - by Gregg Steve - https://a315.co/45SdzXv Four Views Of Revelation - https://a315.co/3R54YNeThe Last Days according to Jesus: When Did Jesus Say He Would Return? By RC Sproul - https://a315.co/3R1dA7xIt's Not the End of the World! By DeeDee Warren - https://a315.co/47VihFVBefore Jerusalem Fell: Dating the Book of Revelation by Kenneth Gentry - https://a315.co/45zPN30Four Views on the Book of Revelation by C. Marvin Pate, General Editor - https://a315.co/3qVPSiiBooks by Chris Date:Is Jesus Human and Not Divine? A Debate by Chris Date and Dale Tuggy - https://a315.co/45zNoFsRethinking Hell: Readings in Evangelical Conditionalism edited by Chris Date, Gregory Stump and Joshua Anderson - https://a315.co/3P4kKoKA Consuming Passion edited by Chris Date and Ron Highfield - https://a315.co/3o3lL7dDoes God Predetermine the Eternal Destiny of Every Individual Human Being? A Debate by Chris Date and Gil VanOrder, Jr. - https://a315.co/3W9Xc5e================================We appreciate your feedback.If you're on TWITTER, you can follow Chad @TBapologetics.You can follow Brian @TheBrianAutenAnd of course, you can follow @Apologetics315If you have a question or comment for the podcast, record it and send it our way using www.speakpipe.com/Apologetics315 or you can email us at podcast@apologetics315.com

Most of us were taught in Sunday school that the future destiny awaiting all who reject Jesus is an existence in some form of eternal death.  Some believe in the literal flames of hell and others utter darkness, but most all agree given the tortuous state with full consciousness, it's not a place one wants to find him or herself in.  Our guest Chris Date agrees there is an eternal death.  However, he takes the word “death” to mean a literal death.   Never conscious again, one is dead forever, this view greatly different from the traditional view of living forever in torment.   Chris and many others are fully convinced this "annihilationist view" is backed by an accurate reading of scripture while many Christians label it heresy.At the top of the episode, Jack talks through some church history.  From Constantine to the Roman Empire and the nature of Christian persecution at the time, Jack indulges us in a historical depiction of that time when being a “Christ follower” was a very new concept, the faith just born.  Stay ConnectedWebsite | Facebook Discussion Page  In this episodeChris Date / Web / Rethinking Hell Podcast His books on the subject: Rethinking Hell / A Consuming Passion Joey Svendsen, host / InstagramLynne Stroy, host / Instagram Jack Hoey, host / Instagram Executive Producer: Josh SurrattProducer/Editor: Joey SvendsenSound Engineer/Editor: JT PriceSound Engineer: Katelyn VandiverMusic, including theme song: Joel T. Hamilton Music

Due to the common idea that to be a conditionalist you must believe in soul sleep (see carm.org's refutations of conditionalism) or a physicalist (soul and body are a united whole and never separate) I have asked William to join me in discussing how dualists think of Hell and the soul. William contributes to Rethinking Hell and is writing a paper on a conditionalist reading of Revelation with Chris Date. You can see some of the work here: http://independent.academia.edu/WilliamTanksleyJrFor some of William's writings go to: http://rethinkinghell.com/author/william-tanksley/To see more of the backstory of this channel, go here: https://thehellproject.substack.com/p/the-back-storyI do this for free and am very happy to continue to do so to the extent that my videos will not be monetised if my youtube ever grows that big. If you'd like to support what I do or just stay up to date with the resources I create you can do so at my website: https://thehellproject.online#soul #theology #hell Get full access to The Hell Project at www.thehellproject.online/subscribe

Had to record the program today due to the location I am at in Santa Fe -possibly due to weather issues as well, not completely sure-. Talked about the Australian legislation being proposed to give the state pretty much full control over speech and how we have taken our eyes off the ball as the totalitarians continue their global march. Then we switched over to a discussion that took place last year between William Lane Craig and unitarian Dale Tuggy https---youtu.be-W-2yIIb9YCo. We will be doing a deep dive on Tuggy's claims and positions over the next number of weeks and months. You might want to familiarize yourself with his views- You might also want to see Michael Brown's debate with Tuggy here https---youtu.be-Oi300-FvFz0 , and Chris Date's interaction here https---youtu.be-c35-uFjEbx8 .

In this episode, Brian Auten and Chad Gross interview Chris Date on the subject of the deity of Christ. They also discuss the debate Chris had on the topic with Dale Tuggy, and explore further.4:30 - Welcome to Chris Date5:20 - A health update on Chris's wife7:00 - Chris's future education plans10:04 - How did the Dale Tuggy debate come about?13:02 - How to prepare for a debate19:17 - What do we mean when we say Jesus is Divine?22:19 - What weight do we give to early church fathers about this doctrine?25:30 - Is the belief in the deity of Christ essential, and why?32:41 - What reasons can be given by those who dispute the deity of Christ?37:37 - What's the best place to start with arguing for the deity of Christ?46:06 - Did Jesus empty himself of his divinity and do his mighty works?55:32 - How is the Father greater than the Son?59:05 - How to prioritize what to deal with during debates1:03:28 - The importance of theology and not just apologetics1:06:08 - Imagery that helps show the deity of Christ1:11:52 - Chris's work and more resources:Chris Date website:www.chrisdate.infoChris Date Theopologetics on YouTube:www.youtube.com/user/TheopologeticsOn Hell:www.rethinkinghell.comwww.youtube.com/@rethinkinghellThe Book:Is Jesus Human Not Divine? (Dale Tuggy & Chris Date)The debate:Is Jesus Human Not Divine? (Dale Tuggy & Chris Date)https://a315.co/44XRRlqOther books by Chris Date:Rethinking Hell: Readings in Evangelical Conditionalism edited by Chris Date, Gregory Stump and Joshua AndersonA Consuming Passion edited by Chris Date and Ron HighfieldDoes God Predetermine the Eternal Destiny of Every Individual Human Being? A Debate by Chris Date and Gil VanOrder, Jr. ================================We appreciate your feedback.If you're on TWITTER, you can follow Chad @TBapologetics.You can follow Brian @TheBrianAutenAnd of course, you can follow @Apologetics315If you have a question or comment for the podcast, record it and send it our way using www.speakpipe.com/Apologetics315 or you can email us at podcast@apologetics315.com

In this episode, we take a break from our discussion on Revelation and talk to Chris Date about Salvation (soteriology).    Connect with Chip: https://linktr.ee/chipbennett

In this episode, we take a break from our discussion on Revelation and talk to Chris Date about Hell.

In this video I talk again with my friend Rivers o Feden. We go through the famous Philippians 2 "Christ Hymn" passages verse by verse and word by word to try and understand it and give a plausible interpretative framework. Rivers o Feden on John 1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOFCuSuhPJs&t=207s My Debate with Chris Date - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0a7tsC_6T80&t=3s Chris Date Debate Review - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P62mtDtsq4M&t=878s

Do the gifts of The Holy Spirit continue to be distributed today? Many Christians think so. However, some Christians think the gifts of the Spirit have ceased since the first century. Moreover, whichever view you take on this, what about the gift of tongues? Continuing today or not, are the tongues some heavenly angelic language no one on this planet can speak or are the tongues human languages of different nations? And what about those who say speaking in tongues is a litmus test for salvation? These topics and more will be discussed by my guest Chris Date. Chris' material can be found at www.Theopologics.com and www.RethinkingHell.com. And also www.ChrisDate.info --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/evan-minton/support

In April, Chris Date joined Theology on Tap in person to look at hell and different theological understandings of it. Does it exist? Do the evil simply cease to exist at some point? Is existence in hell eternal? There were so many questions we could not get to, Chris and another panelist from the live event, Pastor Juan Carlos Martinez, join us again to try to answer them. Juan Carlos espouses a traditional view of eternal conscious torment while Chris teaches conditional immortality. Enjoy the sequel!

In this episode I'm joined by Will Duffy to discuss his recent debate on open theism with Chris Date.

In this episode I'm joined by Chris Date to discuss his recent debate on open theism with Will Duffy

Chris Date has been engaging with the hell debate for a number of years having edited the book, Rethinking Hell (https://amzn.to/2Tlt60g) and become the face of Rethinking Hell Live on youtube (https://www.youtube.com/user/rethinkinghell). We'll be chatting about hell, the book of Revelation and whatever else comes up in the course of the conversation. Chris references an article he has written (but gave two titles in the chat) here: http://www.stephenjbedard.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/HRV6-Hell.pdf For other resources and scripts to non-live videos see the website: https://thehellproject.online For more on Rethinking Hell, their blog, podcasts and conference go to: https://rethinkinghell.com #Revelation #hell #conditionalimmortality I do this for free and am very happy to continue to do so to the extent that my videos will not be monetised if my youtube ever grows that big. If you'd like to buy my a coffee or donate to the channel, you can do so through paypal: paypal.me/philduncalfe. Alternatively use fountain.fm and both donate and earn Bitcoin while you listen! Timeline: 0:00 Introduction and summary of video 3:00 Chris shares his testimony 10:30 Chris shares his journey to rethinking hell 21:28 Phil shares his journey in rethinking hell 28:12 Chris gives a summary of the conditionalist view of Revelation 14 verse 11 36:29 Follow up and conversation on Revelation 14 38:00 Engagement with GK Beale's (traditional view of hell) commentary on Revelation 14 42:00 Why is eternal torment used to symbolise destruction? 43:50 What does Revelation 14 verse 11 mean by 'have no rest'? 47:00 More engagement with GK Beale's defense of the traditional view of Revelation 14 49:30 What does smoke represent? 50:30 Is annihilation a soft punishment? People obviously seek death when faced with great suffering. 58:40 A look at Revelation 20:10-15 1:14:00 A look at the definition of death 1:21:00 Final question and conclusions

This episode is a response to an article by Fr. Lawrence Farley titled "David Bentley Hart's That All Shall Be Saved: A Review and Rejoinder" (link below). More accurately, this episode is a series of reflections prompted by reading Fr. Farley's article. In this episode, I sometimes respond to Fr. Farley as though he were Protestant or evangelical, which he is decidedly not. What I'm really doing in those instances is responding to similar arguments that could be made within the more Protestant world that I inhabit. As such, the Calvinist annihilationist Chris Date also receives several mentions. Fr. Farley's article is excellent and well-written, and I encourage everyone to check it out even if I remain on the side of David Bentley Hart. "Here I stand, I can do no other." https://blogs.ancientfaith.com/nootherfoundation/david-bentley-harts-that-all-shall-be-saved-a-review-and-rejoinder/

In this episode I talk with Kal Rivet, the host of the "Universalism Against the World" podcast. We mention Jacob Faturechi, John Hick, Chris Langan, Bertrand Russel, Kurt Godel, Gottlob Frege, Keith Ward, Chris Date, Jon VanZeen, Preston Sprinkle, James White, John Vervaeke, Paul Vanderklay, and more. Universalism Against the World: https://open.spotify.com/show/3d4QlAnRwp51f9psDU04xh

In this third part of my recent reflections on the Book of Revelation, I respond to the opening of a debate between Chris Date and Keith Giles on annihilationism versus universalism in the Bible. The full debate was hosted by Cameron Bertuzzi and can be found on his channel at the link below. I bookend my debate responses with some personal thoughts on why I find annihilationism unconvincing, at least at this point in time.* *For example, consider the following retributive dilemma that I did not fully discuss in the episode. It takes the form of a brief imaginary dialogue: Is it right that Hitler just be quietly annihilated, suffering the same fate as some petty criminal? "No, he has to be tortured some amount beforehand." Is there any amount he can be tortured that would be enough? If yes, why not let him go after he has "paid the last penny"? "There is no amount of torture that would be enough." If there's no amount that would be enough, then why even try? Why only torture him some random amount? More pressingly, why not torture him for literally ever, if you admit that no amount of torture would ever be enough? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbg4w4FPVIc&t=2396s

L047 Open Theism Chris Date Debate Review by Christopher Fisher

L046 Does Chris Date Know Hebrew by Christopher Fisher

Today on The Dominic Enyart Show, ideas have consequences. We take a brief look at T.U.L.I.P. and how that led one believer to say that God predestines little baby girls to hell. Perhaps even his own newborn granddaughter! Ideas have consequences. We're also finally going to be breaking down Chris Date's opening statement. He makes better arguments for Open Theism than against it. All of that and more, right here on The Dominic Enyart Show! (By the way, today Dominic mentioned a post of Will's that made Chris Date upset. Here was his post.) The quote Will was referencing was from this video where Chris said (timestamp 29:50) "I know this is going to sound really hard hearted or cold hearted, but I don't expect to see my miscarried children in eternity because they didn't express any faith." As Michael Enyart has pointed out, "If sharing your position is a good argument against your position... your position is probably bad." Today's Resource: Predestination & Free Will Debate Bob Enyart vs. Brian Schwertly Can God change? Does He change? Has God pre-planned all events? Is your life following a complete script, written before you were born? Has it been decided in advance which, if any, of your children will go to heaven or hell?  

Heads up! - We've got another Open Theism debate coming up this Friday, June 10th at 5 pm (Mountain time). Will Duffy Vs. Chris Date on the Explore Christianity YouTube channel. "Does Open Theism Best Explain the Biblical data?" * SPECIAL PROGRAM: Today's program, June 9, 2006, marks the first time that Fred Williams joins Bob Enyart in the special science programs that come to be named, Real Science Radio!  * Bob calls a Chicago judge's chambers, Judge Vincent M. Gaughan, 773-869-3190, to criticize his ruling to show a child molestation video in full view of the public and the media, further victimizing the poor girl. Please call to ask Judge Gaughan (gaw-gen) to reconsider his ruling. * Creation Research Society webmaster Fred Williams (of EvolutionFairyTale.com) talks with Bob describing the scientific articles in the CRS Quarterly journal.   Today's Resource: Age of the Earth DebateHear young-earth creationists debate Denver's old-earthers Also, if you're using a computer, see the science slides and read the young-earth introduction and debate notes. 

Heads up! - We've got another Open Theism debate coming up this Friday, June 10th at 5 pm (Mountain time). Will Duffy Vs. Chris Date on the Explore Christianity YouTube channel. "Does Open Theism Best Explain the Biblical data?" Calvinists we debate say that they trust God's decrees, but that they could not trust God Himself, if God were free. This was overtly exposed again in this weekend's debate between Calvinist theologian Matt Slick, founder of CARM.org, and Will Duffy, founder of OpenTheism.org. Bob Enyart airs Mr. Duffy's opening statement and then goes to the YouTube channel youtu.be/user/BobEnyartLive to respond to a commenter, Mirabilis, about the claim of Open Theism that God is free and has an actual free will, and that therefore the Father loves the Son freely, not by any compulsion or inevitability, but because He chooses to love the Son. Also, the Son loves the Father, and the Holy Spirit, freely. Of course! Today's Resource: Predestination & Free Will Debate Bob Enyart vs. Brian Schwertly Can God change? Does He change? Has God pre-planned all events? Is your life following a complete script, written before you were born? Has it been decided in advance which, if any, of your children will go to heaven or hell?  

Dr. Leighton Flowers replies to his friend and colleague Chris Date's recent episode on the use of the word "draw" (helko) in John 6:44, which can be seen here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBgphAjRF4U   To SUPPORT this broadcast please click here: https://soteriology101.com/support/   Is Calvinism all Leighton talks about? https://soteriology101.com/2017/09/22/is-calvinism-all-you-talk-about/   DOWNLOAD OUR APP: LINK FOR ANDROIDS: https://play.google.com/store/apps/de... LINK FOR APPLE: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/soterio...   Go to www.ridgemax.co for all you software developing needs! Show them some love for their support of Soteriology101!!!   To ORDER Dr. Flowers Curriculum “Tiptoeing Through Tulip” please click here: https://soteriology101.com/shop/   To listen to the audio only be sure to subscribe on iTunes, Stitcher, Google Play or one of the other podcast players found here: https://soteriology101.com/home/   For more about Traditionalism (or Provisionism) please visit www.soteriology101.com   Dr. Flowers' book, “The Potter's Promise” can be found here: https://www.amazon.com/Potters-Promis...   Dr. Flowers' book, “God's Provision for All” can be found here: https://www.amazon.com/Gods-Provision...   To engage with other believers cordially join our Facebook group: https://m.facebook.com/groups/1806702...   For updates and news follow us at:  www.facebook/Soteriology101   Or @soteriology101 on Twitter   Please SHARE on Facebook and Twitter and help spread the word!   To learn more about other ministries and teachings from Dr. Flowers go here: https://soteriology101.com/2017/09/22...   To become a Patreon supporter or make a one time donation: https://soteriology101.com/support/

Chris Date of Rethinking Hell joins us to look at the topic of, well, hell. Is it a real place? Who goes there and why? Or does eternal destruction really just mean a person ceases to exist. Or heck, is everyone saved? After a presentation from Chris, our panel weighs in. This was recorded April 4, 2022.

In this informal debate, Chris Date defends Annihilationism and Keith Giles defends Universalism. Chris Date is a well-known evangelical Christian author, editor, blogger, podcaster, debater, and speaker. Representing a global movement known as Rethinking Hell, Chris has published three articles in academic journals and two books on the topic of hell, including Rethinking Hell: Readings in Evangelical Conditionalism, and A Consuming Passion: Essays on Hell and Immortality in Honor of Edward Fudge. Chris is also an Adjunct Professor of Bible and Theology at Trinity College of the Bible and Theological Seminary. Keith Giles is a former pastor who abandoned the pulpit to follow Jesus and ended up founding a church where 100% of the offering is given away to help the poor in the community. He is the author of several best-selling books including "Jesus Undefeated: Condemning The False Doctrine Of Eternal Torment". He has appeared on CNN and was recently interviewed by USA Today, BuzzFeed, and John Fugelsang's "Tell Me Everything." He also co-hosts the insanely popular Heretic Happy Hour podcast and the new Peace Catalyst Podcast. He lives with his wife, Wendy, in El Paso, Texas. Link to the YouTube Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbg4w4FPVIc Our Website: www.capturingchristianity.com Our Patreon: www.patreon.com/capturingchristianity

Our friend and colleague, Chris Date, recently produced a video calling Drs. Tim Stratton and Leighton Flowers to task on using the LBC of 1689 and Westminster Confessions of Faith to establish Libertarian Free Will (as in opposition to Compatibilistic Free Will.) Please watch Date's original broadcast in its entirety here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9YnQNEMUU8&t=126s The portion of the statement in question (as represented here by the LBC of 1689, chapter 9, paragraphs 1&2) state: "God has endued the will of man with that natural liberty and power of acting upon choice, that it is neither forced nor by any necessity of nature determined to do good or evil. Man, in his state of innocency, had freedom and power to will and to do that which was good and well-pleasing to God,2 but yet was unstable, so that he might fall from it." To SUPPORT this broadcast please click here: https://soteriology101.com/support/   Is Calvinism all Leighton talks about? https://soteriology101.com/2017/09/22/is-calvinism-all-you-talk-about/   DOWNLOAD OUR APP: LINK FOR ANDROIDS: https://play.google.com/store/apps/de... LINK FOR APPLE: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/soterio...   Go to www.ridgemax.co for all you software developing needs! Show them some love for their support of Soteriology101!!!   To ORDER Dr. Flowers Curriculum “Tiptoeing Through Tulip” please click here: https://soteriology101.com/shop/   To listen to the audio only be sure to subscribe on iTunes, Stitcher, Google Play or one of the other podcast players found here: https://soteriology101.com/home/   For more about Traditionalism (or Provisionism) please visit www.soteriology101.com   Dr. Flowers' book, “The Potter's Promise” can be found here: https://www.amazon.com/Potters-Promis...   Dr. Flowers' book, “God's Provision for All” can be found here: https://www.amazon.com/Gods-Provision...   To engage with other believers cordially join our Facebook group: https://m.facebook.com/groups/1806702...   For updates and news follow us at:  www.facebook/Soteriology101   Or @soteriology101 on Twitter   Please SHARE on Facebook and Twitter and help spread the word!   To learn more about other ministries and teachings from Dr. Flowers go here: https://soteriology101.com/2017/09/22...   To become a Patreon supporter or make a one time donation: https://soteriology101.com/support/

The one-year anniversary episode! Mark thinks about where we've been, where we're going, hungry widows, and why. CLOSING REMARKS Next year, Q&A, "Dynamic Monarchianism" book in the works, other events, monster truck rally, Chloe from Arizona, an humble audiobook, and Amanda Dunn. RESOURCES Episode 38. The Making of a Trinity Nerd - Dale Tuggy Unitarian Christian Alliance FAQ Mark 12:29 - Greatest commandment, the Shema Dale's entry on the Trinity - Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy Episode 26. Road Trip and Late-Night Christology - Eric Miller 1 Timothy 3 - Paul's description of qualifications (not for web developer) Matthew 25:31 - Criteria for entrance into Kingdom Acts 6 - Widows in need Acts 6:2 - Conflict of preaching and serving tables Chris Date's single issue website: Rethinking Hell Dale Tuggy discusses Christ Date's Search for a Viable Trinity Theory, Episode 336 (part 1) and Episode 337 (part 2)  Allegiance to the King (https://allegiancetotheking.org/) Atlanta Bible College (Church of God General Conference) (https://coggc.org/)  Spirit and Truth (Revised English Version) (https://spiritandtruthonline.org/) Living Hope International Ministries (https://lhim.org/) Williamsburg Christadelphian Foundation (https://www.wcfoundation.org/) Integrity Syndicate (https://integritysyndicate.com/) UCA Membership Map Theophilus Press (UCA publishing) An Humble Inquiry into the Scripture-Account of Jesus Christ: A Short Argument concerning His Deity and Glory according to the Gospel (Amazon link) EPISODE INDEX (02:22) Reflections (08:20) Misunderstandings (13:36) Meeting needs, Acts 6 (16:04) Paul writes from prison about web developers (24:05) The start of the UCA (28:03) Division of labor (29:37) UCA sponsor mentions (33:00) The coming year (35:00) The monster truck rally (35:45) Apology for the monster truck rally (36:07) Chloe from Arizona (39:20) Amanda Dunn FEEDBACK Your ponderances merit pronouncing. Include your name and where you are from. "Hi! I'm Tale Duggy from ... uh, New Zealand. I was impressed by that one." Email podcast@unitarianchristianalliance.org Click here to RECORD A MESSAGE Or call: 615-581-1158 Alternatively, just record yourself and email me the audio file LISTENING TIPS Pauses and pacing are hand crafted, artisan efforts. If your podcast app lets you remove silences, please don't. You will enjoy this better with the silences left in, and probably at the original speed. FOLLOW THE PODCAST The UCA Podcast email list! Large and enjoyable episode art, additional thoughts from the host, and notifications when there are delays. Enhance your inbox. Instagram UCA.podcast - Pictures and quotes Twitter @UCApodcast - Episode announcements Podcast Webpage: https://podcast.unitarianchristianalliance.org

This week, we are joined by Chris Date from Rethinking Hell. If you put "Conditional Immortality" into a search engine, you will be treated with pictures of Chris. The concept of Hell is a frightful thing and one that terrifies many. What if we've misread the scriptures? What if the final judgement is different than what we've been told? We will explore this with Chris and we hope you join us.

What is annihilationism / conditional immortality / conditionalism? Is annihilationism a biblically plausible viewpoint? What are the core issues that separate eternal suffering from conditional immortality? An interview with Chris Date from RethinkingHell.com. Links: Chris Date Rethinking Hell Statement on Evangelical Conditionalism

Jake Brancatella, aka the Muslim Metaphysician, is the host of his own youtube channel and is a cohost on Thought Adventure channel. He recently had a debate on The Trinity vs Tawhid with Dr James White from "The Firing Line". In this conservation Jake and I discuss that debate, go into further detail on some of the arguments, and try to further elucidate with Dr. James White might actually believe about the trinity. Jake's Debate with James White: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xh13mb4Hz1E&t=1550s Thought Adventure Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/ThoughtAdventurePodcast The Muslim Metaphysician Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheMuslimMetaphysician We also mention Dr Dale Tuggy, Dr Beau Branson, Chris Date, Dr Richard Swinburn, Dr William Lane Craig, Dr Jousha Sijuwade, Dr Ryan Mullins, Herman Alexander Roell, BB Warfield, and many others.

Luke returns for a second conversation. This time Sam and Luke discuss Philippians 2, The Christ Hymn. Sam presents a Biblical Unitarian interpretation of the passage and Luke gives his feedback from an Eastern Orthodox Monarchical Trinitarian perspective. This video in both in response to the debate between Dale Tuggy and Christ Date and in anticipation of an upcoming debate/discussion between Sam and Chris Date. Because this is Sam and Luke they don't always stay on topic and mention Dr. Preston Sprinkle, Paul Vanderklay, Owen Barfield, Julian the Apostate, Lewis Carrol, Guy Sengstock, Jordan Peterson, Arius of Alexandria, David Bentley Hart, and Larry Hurtado. My previous conversation with Dr. Beau Branson was mentioned multiple times: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_tuLfkp4_Y&t=2235s Dale Tuggy and Chris Date Debate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c35_uFjEbx8

In this conversation we discuss linguistic confusions relating to Christology, is God eternally and necessarily a Father, Dale Tuggy and his definition of Unitarianism, Chris Date and standard American Evangelical Trinitarianism, the specifics of the Arian Controversy, is the God of the Old Testament the Father or the Son, can God be seen, Two Powers in Heaven by Alan Segal, Richard Bauckham, Justin Martyr and the Dialogue with Trypho, Philo of Alexandria, Josephus, Preston Sprinkle, Hegel, NT Wright, Michael Heiser, William Lane Craig, Neoplatonism, Origen of Alexandria, Plotinus, Is there Platonism in the book of Hebrews, did Apollos write the book of Hebrews, and finally we read the prologue of John 1, Maximus the Confessor and the 3 thickenings of the logos. Link to our first conversation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_tuLfkp4_Y&t=5520s

Luke, Julian, and Sam do a debrief on the recent debate between Chris Date and Sam and Preston Sprinkle's "Theology in the Raw" podcast. Various people mentioned are Larry Hurtado, Jonathan Pageau, Alan Kreider's "The Patient Ferment of the Early Church", Jordan Peterson and his rules for good conversation, Paul Vanderklay as always, Jonathan Haidt, and Beau Branson. We discussion Biblical Unitarianism, Eastern Orthodoxy, The Jewish context of the emergence of Christianity, Monarchical Trinitarianism, and just exactly what is means for Jesus to be divine. Link to the debate video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0a7tsC_6T80&t=1284s Link to the podcast: https://www.prestonsprinkle.com/theology-in-the-raw/2020/3/16/783-trinitarianism-versus-unitarianism-a-conversation-with-chris-date-and-sam-adams

Beau Branson and Skylar McManus and I have a joint discussion about the definitions and borders between Unitarianism and Trinitarianism. We talk a lot about church history mentioning Justin Martyr, Ignatius of Antioch, Irenaeus of Lyon, Paul of Samosata, Origen, Arius, Athanasius, Constantine, Basil of Caesarea, Gregory of Nyssa, Gregory Nazianzus, Eusebius of Caesaria, Photinus, Augustine, Maximus the Confessor, Photius, Thomas Aquinas, Martin Luther, Michael Servetus, Socinus, John Calvin and more. We also discuss contemporary theologians such as William Lane Craig, Dale Tuggy, Karl Rahner, Sir Anthony Buzzard, Chris Date, DC Williams, BB Warfield, William Hasker, Kallistos Ware, and others. Here are my previous two videos with Beau Branson. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_tuLfkp4_Y&t=7137s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDxccZwy54E&t=5757s My previous conversation with Skylar McManus. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FI6wSGFGnZY&t=5s Here is Beau's Presentation on the Monarchy of the Father. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfBoOZ7dzLY&t=1s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lc-vqRutOU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KRf4kCB8vk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3htRB-WjQsc Here is Dale's Response to Beau's Presentation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzyUDQmewdo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78T7Ns2RMxo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJ1nPIRG4rw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMN9cBfWQAA Here is Beau and Skylar's joint response. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqFFYzbOePs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MViP3yN48FQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znGwYzY0vC0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbesYL9d_o0

Chris Date recently published a book with Dale Tuggy that you can find here: https://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Human-Not-Divine-Essential-ebook/dp/B087X7VWKJ/?fbclid=IwAR3LHQv3J2xTvhXd3NPhFNeRPplEdbngdGWXunHGpBKbRV_5QvBjXSLou3Y Chris Date and I also had a first conversation on Preston Sprinkle's 'Theology in the Raw podcast': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0a7tsC_6T80&t=2s Chris Date and Dale Tuggy recorded a live debate here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c35_uFjEbx8&t=1s Chris Date and I discuss the Trinity and the Incarnation. We also mention William Lane Craig, Dale Tuggy, Beau Branson, Augustine, Thomas Aquinas, John Calvin, Irenaeus of Lyon, Clement of Alexandria, and more.

While I (Joey) personally find very primitive and archaic the belief in a God-ordained predestination of souls, Chris Date's holding to this position  doesn't lessen the amount of respect I have for him as a biblical scholar.  Chip, Chris and I discuss and debate the philosophical components of whether people can have real choice while at the same time, God also ordaining that choice they will freely make.  In other words, can God ordain that people have real choice while also ordaining what choice they will make?  Chris thinks so.  We have plenty of “if I treated my kids the way God does” analogies, talk a bit about whether Jack and Jill had real choice to go up the hill if the author writes it (you'll have to listen) and even ponder marital affairs being “God ordained.”  Chris Date and Rethinking Hellhttp://www.theopologetics.com/http://www.youtube.com/theopologetics/https://fuller.academia.edu/ChristopherDatehttp://www.rethinkinghell.com/http://www.youtube.com/rethinkinghell/Chip Judd's "8-Minute Mind Shift"https://chipjudd.com/category/mindshiftJoey/PWNA Instagram:  www.instagram.com/joeysvendsenCurrent DonorSee: https://donorsee.com/pwnahelpsGet notifications each time we start raising money to get more information on our current opportunity to “save the day” for team humanity. Text PWNAd to 31010. Support:Join us as a patron! https://www.patreon.com/pwnapodor leave a Venmo tip right @  https://venmo.com/joey-svendsenJoin the discussion:https://www.facebook.com/groups/PWNAtalkSocials:https://twitter.com/pwnapodhttps://twitter.com/joeysvendsenhttps://www.facebook.com/PWNApodCALL 507-403-PWNA (7962):  Questions, Comments, Feedback, Pushback, frustration? Air it out on our voicemail and we may air it on an episode.E-mail PWNAcontact@gmail.com for correspondence.Music courtesy of: Derek Minor http://www.derekminor.com/Joel Hamilton https://mechanicalriver.bandcamp.com/http://embassyfreqs.com/ Executive Producer: Jared Svendsen Support the show

Adjunct professor of Bible and Theology at Trinity College Chris Date and Nate Jacobson join the pod to talk about the Evangelical belief in the negative hereafter. An eternal Hell where unbelievers are tortured forever is a common belief in Evangelical circles but does the Bible actually teach about eternal conscious torment in a fiery pit? ______________________________ Check out Chris Date's website: rethinkinghell.com and theopologetics.com. You can get a copy of Chris Date's book (with Phil Fernandes): "Is Hell Forever: Does the Bible Teach that Hell will be Annihilation or Eternal Torment?" For more information on the topic, check out: "The Fire That Consumes: A Biblical and Historical Study of the Doctrine of Final Punishment" by Edward William Fudge Check out Nate Jacobson's writing and reflections: https://afterall.net/ ______________________________ Mentioned on the Pod: Book: "Love Wins: A Book About Heaven, Hell, and the fate of Every Person Who Ever Lived" by Rob Bell. Order here: https://bookoutlet.com/Store/Details/9780062049650B?source=ppc&ppc_campaign=u1407004000&gclid=CjwKCAiAq8f-BRBtEiwAGr3DgZttOGur2O0_TbS2-Cje58x9pTQvis5hyRat-9BdgKAjPy3luw7aLBoCwzgQAvD_BwE Book: "The Divine Conspiracy: Rediscovering Our Hidden Life in God" by Dallas Willard. Order here: https://www.christianbook.com/the-divine-conspiracy-dallas-willard/9780060693336/pd/69333?en=google&event=SHOP&kw=christian-living-0-20%7C69333&p=1179710&dv=c&gclid=CjwKCAiAq8f-BRBtEiwAGr3DgV9iEiUtyHsE94-5KvbkW_c70pO24dgoQZiMLhluSe2hqV05Akc_mxoCku0QAvD_BwE Zach's music can be experienced at https://muzach.bandcamp.com/ Dave occasionally blogs at: www.dangeroushope.wordpress.com Twitter: Zach - @muzach Dave- @davejlester Chris- @datechris Nate- @afterall_net Email: vocwpod@gmail.com Music on podcast by Zach Malm Logo by Zach Malm

On this episode of the Preacher Boys Podcast, Eric is joined by Chris Date. Chris is Adjunct Professor of Bible and Theology at Trinity College of the Bible and Theological Seminary and co-editor of Rethinking Hell: Readings in Evangelical Conditionalism (Cascade, 2014) and A Consuming Passion (Pickwick, 2015). A full-time software engineer, Chris believes theology and apologetics are for every average joe in the pews, and not just for pastors, philosophers, PhD's and the erudite in ivory towers. Formerly a traditionalist, he became convinced of the biblical view of final punishment over the course of a process which began when he interviewed Edward Fudge, and he has since defended the view in several debates and on Justin Brierley's Unbelievable? radio program on Premier Christian Radio UK. Chris is also a steward of the Rethinking Hell project. Chris Date: Pick up a copy of one of Chris' books here: https://amzn.to/2Qgos0A (https://amzn.to/2Qgos0A) RethinkingHell.com RethingHellConference.com https://bit.ly/3gjphk2 (https://bit.ly/3gjphk2) chrisdate@rethinkinghell.com Find more stories regarding the IFB movement by visiting: preacherboysdoc.com https://www.facebook.com/preacherboysdoc/ (https://www.facebook.com/preacherboysdoc/) https://twitter.com/preacherboysdoc (https://twitter.com/preacherboysdoc) https://www.instagram.com/preacherboysdoc/ (https://www.instagram.com/preacherboysdoc/) To connect with a community who share the Preacher Boys Podcast mission to expose abuse in the IFB, join the OFFICIAL Preacher Boys Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1403898676438188/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/1403898676438188/) Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/preacher-boys-podcast/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Is the traditional view of Hell biblically sound? Is eternal bodily torment what Jesus meant by Hell? And if not, what does the Bible really say about the fate of the lost? To get a better grasp of these questions, the guys sit down with Chris Date of the Rethinking Hell podcast to have a Better Conversation on Hell.

Your true calling is found where your passions and your gifts collide. It's a great feeling to know what God has called you to, but what happens during the period of time where it's not quite time to quit your day job? How can we reconcile this deep, spiritual knowledge with practical wisdom? Here to talk about calling, theology, passions, and ordinary acts of obedience are Chris Date. By day, Chris is a software designer. His true passion is writing about and teaching on theology, specifically the concept of Hell and conditional immortality. If that sounds a bit heavy, hang in there. Chris has a lot of important ideas to share you do not want to miss.    Chris Date is an Evangelical author whose work has been published in the New York Times and National Geographic, among many others. When he's not designing software, Chris can be found studying for his Masters at seminary or spending time with his wife and four sons. Theology truly is his passion, and, Lord Willing, he is going to become a teacher and writer on the subject full-time. In the meantime, Chris is staying faithful to God by providing for his family with his software design job.    In today's episode, we get a little deep into some of the tougher topics of apologetics and the afterlife. What is so great about Chris is that he explains everything in a manner that is simple to understand. Above all else, he is bound by the authority of Scripture as God's Word, so you know what he is saying is sound. If you are interested in taking a deep dive into some powerful Scripture today, Chris is the man for you!  Show Highlights:   Chris shares all about his life, his passion, and his family.  Chris shares his testimony about his overnight transformation from atheist to born-again believer.   The inspirational quote and guiding faith from Acts 17:11. Chris is a young earth creationist, and even with his conservative views, he encourages a diversity of views and unity within the church.  Weighing in on “hanging out” with those with different views on the Trinity.  The Biblical picture of our eternal destiny.  Why Chris became passionate about education and pursuing a place in academia.  We need people to help us understand Scripture, so I am thankful for guys like Chris!  The upcoming Rethinking Hell Conference sounds like it is going to be amazing.  Was Hell even created for humans?  The advice Chris would give his past self.   Resources: Rethinking Hell  The Pastor-Theologian